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Hello, it's Friday, it's 9am,

I'm Tina Daheeley -

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welcome to the programme.

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A former detective who examined

Damian Green's parliamentary

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computer nine years ago has said

he has no doubt that the MP had

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accessed pornography

found on the device.

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Mr Green has always

denied the allegation.

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There were a lot of them,

so I was surprised to see that

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on a parliamenatry computer.

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We'll bring you more on this story

later in the programme.

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Darren Tunstall left his home

on a Sunday evening in December

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and never came back -

that was 25 years ago.

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His mum has been talking

to our programme exclusively

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about why she believes

he is still alive.

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It's the only thing I want in life.

I don't need or want anything else.

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Just to know that he is happy,

because that's all I want. If he

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wants to live the life that he's

living now... You know, I'm not

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worried, I just want to know he's

safe.

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And we will also speak

to a parent of a missing child,

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and a charity dedicated to reuniting

missing people and their families.

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Victoria Miligan lost her husband

and her young daughter in a speed

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boat accident in 2013.

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She was also badly injured and later

had one of her legs amputated.

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Now thieves have stolen three

specially-cast limbs

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from her car, worth £30,000.

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They had knives, they smashed

the window, unlocked the car,

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stole my bags from the boot,

and my friend's bag.

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So that was all shocking

and dramatic, and what I then

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I realised, to my horror,

what they had inside it,

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which are my three

prosthetic legs, which are

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so incredibly valuable to me.

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Hello, welcome to the programme -

we're live until 11am this morning.

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Lots coming up, including the first

British television interview

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with model Kadian Noble who alleges

she was sexually assaulted

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by disgraced Hollywood

mogul Harvey Weinstein.

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She says it impacted her life

massively.

Did I do something wrong?

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Why he treated me the way in which

he did? Because this is a man that I

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massively looked up to, that I see

as the God of Hollywood, who can

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make so many dreams a reality, has

the gift, the work which he has

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created, it's magical, and him

approaching me, it was amazing. It

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knocked me down so much, depression,

feeling suicidal.

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Do get in touch on all the stories

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Our top story today...

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A former Scotland Yard detective has

told BBC News he was "shocked"

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by the amount of pornography

on a Parliamentary computer

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seized from the office

of the First Secretary of State,

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Damian Green.

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Neil Lewis, a computer forensics

specialist, examined the device

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during an inquiry into Government

leaks in 2008.

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Mr Green has vehemently denied

looking at pornography at work.

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Mr Lewis, who's now retired,

said he has "no doubt whatsoever"

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that the images containing legal

pornographic material had been

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accessed by Mr Green.

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Our home affairs correspondent

Danny Shaw has this

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exclusive report.

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He's Theresa May's oldest and most

trusted political ally.

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But now Damian Green is facing

a battle for political survival,

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amid claims he viewed pornography

on his work computer.

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Mr Green has vehemently

denied the allegations.

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I have an exemplary record.

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Now the detective who examined

the device has given me his account.

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The shocking thing was that,

as I was viewing it,

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I noticed a lot of pornography

thumbnails, which

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indicated web browsing.

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But a lot, there was a lot of them.

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So I was surprised to see that

on a parliamentary computer.

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How many images did you see?

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Thousands.

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Thousands of pornographic images?

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Thumbnail images.

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The computer had been seized

in 2008 after police raided

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Damian Green's offices.

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The MP, then in opposition,

was the subject of an unrelated

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enquiry into Home Office leaks.

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He was never charged.

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How can you be sure

that it was Damian Green

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who was accessing the pornography?

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There is a phrase, you can't put

fingers on a keyboard.

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So I can't say that.

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But the computer was in Mr Green's

office, on his desk.

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Logged in, it's his

account, his name.

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In between browsing pornography,

he was sending emails from his

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account, his personal account.

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Reading documents,

writing documents.

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The Cabinet Office is examining

the pornography claims

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as part of a wider enquiry

into Mr Green's conduct.

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But Neil Lewis has not been

asked to give evidence.

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A spokesperson for Damian Green said

it would be inappropriate

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for Mr Green to comment

while the Cabinet Office

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investigation was continuing.

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However, the spokesperson said

that Damian Green had...

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Mr Green maintains his innocence.

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Danny Shaw is with me in the studio.

Good morning to you. Why has he

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decided to come forward now?

I think this has been a case that

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has always bothered him from 2008,

2009. He was not comfortable with

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it, he had a notebook, it was the

only one he kept when he left the

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Metropolitan Police in 2014, a sign

of how uneasy he felt because I

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think you felt the pornography

allegations had not been dealt with

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properly at the time. The

pornography was legal but I think he

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feels they should have been a

referable to the Parliamentary

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standards Commissioner at the time.

But when he saw Damian Green's very

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robust defence of the allegations

when they emerged in the Sunday

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Times last month, as the accusing

Bob Quick, the former Metropolitan

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Police commissioner, of effectively

live and political smears, Neil

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Lewis felt he had to come to his

defence because he has an account of

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what he believes he saw and he

thinks it is right that it comes out

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into the open. I think the other is

you that is concerning him is that

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the Cabinet Office inquiry has been

made aware of Neil Lewis but has not

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taken evidence from him, and I think

he is worried about that, so he

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wants his version out there at least

in the public domain, he feels there

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is public interest in coming forward

now.

As for the pornography itself,

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it is legal so why does it matter?

It is legal pornography, it was not

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extreme, according to Neil Lewis,

there is no question they were

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children there, no abusive images,

nothing like that, it was legal, and

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if it was on private computers in

someone's home, in their own time, I

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don't think we would be discussing

this at all, what people do in their

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private life is their business. But

there is an issue around whether you

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should be viewing pornography

particularly on an almost daily

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basis in a workplace. I think most

employees found to have done that

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would be sacked or at least face

severe disciplinary action. So there

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is that question, and then a

question on truthfulness, whether or

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not Mr Green is being truthful in

what he has said, he has defended

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himself robustly, he maintained his

innocence, so that also comes into

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play as well, the truthfulness of

politicians and leaders in public

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office is a matter that is being

investigated by the Cabinet Office

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inquiry.

Has Damian Green responded

to these latest claims?

He has said

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that he did not download nor view

pornography on his work computers,

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he has maintained that all along

throughout this whole affair.

OK,

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for now, thank you very much indeed,

Danny Shaw, our home affairs

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correspondent.

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A spokesperson for Damian Green

said: "It would be inappropriate

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for Mr Green to comment on these

allegations while the Cabinet Office

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investigation is ongoing.

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However, from the outset he has been

very clear that he never watched

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or downloaded pornography

on the computers seized

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from his office.

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He maintains his innocence of these

charges and awaits the outcome

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of the investigation."

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It is 9:09am.

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Annita is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary

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of the rest of the day's news.

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Thank you, Tina. Good morning.

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Royal Bank of Scotland has announced

it's to close 259 branches,

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resulting in 680 job losses.

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The latest round of closures

at the state-owned bank follows

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180 announced in March.

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The bank says it wants to reduce

costs and encourage customers to use

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online and mobile services.

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MPs scrutinising the Government's

Brexit plans say border controls

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between Northern Ireland

and the Irish Republic

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are inevitable if the UK leaves

the EU single market

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and customs union.

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The Commons Brexit Committee says

ministers have failed to explain how

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the issue can be resolved,

and that the proposals

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they've come up with,

such as the use of technology,

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are "untested" and "speculative".

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The Labour MP, Hilary Benn,

is the chair of the committee.

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Currently, we don't see how it

will be possible to reconcile

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on the one hand the objective

that the Government has set out,

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that there should be no border

and no physical infrastructure

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after we leave, which is

an objective that we all support

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and share, including the government

of the Republic of Ireland.

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And, on the other hand,

the decision the Government has

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reached to leave the customs union

and the single market, because it

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will then become the border

between the United Kingdom

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and the other 27 member states

of the European Union.

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Now, you're right, the Government

has suggested that technology

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might provide the answer.

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At the moment, however,

the Government admits

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that its proposals are untested,

and, crucially, the Republic

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of Ireland, which will be

on the other side of the border,

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is not convinced that that can

deliver the 'no hard border,

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no infrastructure' aim

that everyone shares.

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That's why, as a committee today,

we've called on the Government

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to set out in more detail how

exactly it thinks this

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can be made to work,

because there does seem to be

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a conflict between the two

things at the moment.

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Health inspectors have ordered

a review of all NHS radiology

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services in England,

after a hospital in Portsmouth

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failed to spot three

cases of lung cancer.

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The investigation by

the Care Quality Commission also

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found that 20,000 chest scans had

not been assessed correctly

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at the Queen Alexandra Hospital.

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The Trust has apologised

to the families affected.

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Mark Lobel reports.

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An alarming backlog of unchecked

medical scans has been found

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at the Queen Alexandra Hospital

in Portsmouth by the health services

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regulator, after a member

of the public raised concerns.

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The Care Quality Commission found

between 1st April 2016

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and 31st March this year,

26,345 chest x-rays and 2,167

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abdomen x-rays had not been formally

reviewed by a radiologist

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or an appropriately-trained

clinician.

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Some had been checked -

but by junior doctors,

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who complained that they had been

asked to do so without

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appropriate training.

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In some cases where x-rays had

been declared clear,

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radiologists went on to spot cancer

on later scans.

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In a statement, the Care

Quality Commission said:

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ortsmouth NHS

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Portsmouth NHS Trust said:

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The health regulator has now written

to all trusts in England

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to build up a national picture

of how quickly patients'

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x-rays are viewed.

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But tackling the problem

will be tough.

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Experts have warned of a desperate

shortage of radiologists

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across the country.

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And a backlog of hundreds of

thousands of x-rays and scans.

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Survivors and relatives of those

who died in the Grenfell Tower fire

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are warning that the public inquiry

risks becoming a whitewash,

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unless a diverse panel is appointed

to oversee the proceedings.

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They are petitioning

Theresa May to intervene.

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They say the chairman,

Sir Martin Moore-Bick,

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should sit with a range of people

who understand the issues facing

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those affected by the disaster.

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The Argentine navy has said there is

now no hope of rescuing the 44 crew

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members of the submarine that

disappeared in the South Atlantic a

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fortnight ago. They have said a

smaller scale search for the

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wreckage of the San Juan will

continue.

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Eight former ministers

in Catalonia's Government and two

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separatist campaigners are to ask

Spain's Supreme Court

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to release them from prison.

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They were jailed a month ago

on charges of sedition and rebellion

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following the declaration

of Catalan independence.

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The region's former president,

Carles Puigdemont,

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remains in Belgium,

where he is fighting extradition

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to Spain on the same charges.

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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

are to carry out their first joint

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official visit later.

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The couple, who announced

their engagement on Monday,

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will meet members of the public at

a number of charities in Nottingham.

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They're due to get married

at Windsor Castle in May.

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That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30am.

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Do get in touch with us

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use the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE.

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Let's get some sport

now with Katherine.

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The draw for next summer's World Cup

is happening the afternoon, England

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is the only home nation through,

what can we expect?

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England and the other nations in the

draw will be able to look ahead to

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what they can expect for the World

Cup in Russia next summer. For

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England, the worst-case scenario

could be up against five-time

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winners Brazil, seven time Africa

cup of Nations Egypt's, either one

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of those dreaded draws against

Germany, but you have to wait to see

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what it brings. BBC Two, 3pm this

afternoon, we will be inside the

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Kremlin, Gary Lineker will be there

with the draw for the World Cup.

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Manager Gareth Southgate, though,

has said he is not focusing on what

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might come out, he is not thinking

about who you might play, simply

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focusing on getting the players

ready to play whoever comes out of

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the pot, and he is not yet

downplaying England's chances of

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success in Russia next summer.

We have not won a knockout match

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since 2006, so our last two

tournaments have been a

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disappointment. So we have got to

remember where we are starting from

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with this group of young players,

but equally they are fiercely

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ambitious. I think everything is

ahead of them, and it's not for me

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to put a limit on their

expectations.

What he's talking

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about there is that England have

been focusing on the next World Cup

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in 2022, saying that is where they

are pinpointing success, but he said

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his players are likely to be at

their best in four years' time, but

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inevitably with this draw those

discussions will kick off about

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whether England can win the World

Cup. And we have had confirmation

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this morning that Vladimir Putin,

the Russian president, is going to

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be taking part in that ceremony as

well, they have been doing

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rehearsals at the Kremlin and it is

set for 3pm on BBC Two.

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Continuing the theme of the World

Cup, England are in the Rugby World

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Cup tomorrow, playing Australia but

some bad news question mark yes,

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England's football team might not be

likely to win a title but the rugby

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team are in the final.

But bad news

overnight, their captain Sean

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O'Loughlin has picked up a thigh

strain. He injured himself in the

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semifinal over Tonga last weekend.

Heartbreak for him, having left his

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side through to this first World Cup

final for 22 years. He will be

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replaced, though, by Sam Burgess. A

huge name in rugby league. You will

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remember, he switched over to union

and represented England at the last

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Rugby union World Cup. All kinds of

criticism for him after that, fairly

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or unfairly. He gets the chance to

crown a glittering rugby league

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career for him. He will be a

brilliant leader, as well. Widely

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regarded as a leader of men. An

obvious choice, really, to replace

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Sean O'Loughlin, who is out injured.

But a huge match for England against

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Australia. Nine o'clock tomorrow

British time. They take on

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Australia, who have won the World

Cup ten times. They have won the

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last 12 matches they have had

against England. England massive

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underdogs. One of the benefits for

them going into this, Australia are

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missing some of their key players,

which might play into England's

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hands. You never know what happens

in the drama of a World Cup final.

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It is live tomorrow on BBC for you.

Good to know, thank you.

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Darren Tunstall left his family home

in east London on a Thursday

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evening in December.

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He left a note saying

he was going to see friends,

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but he never returned.

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That was 25 years ago.

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This Sunday - the 3rd -

will mark a quarter of a century

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since Darren disappeared.

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The 20-year-old left no other clues

as to where he went.

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His family has no idea why

he left or where he went.

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Dan Clark-Neal has been speaking

exclusively to Darren's mum Ann,

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ahead of the 25th anniversary

of her son's disappearance.

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The last time I saw Darren

was on the Wednesday evening

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and then I had to actually phone up

and report him a missing person.

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And I've not heard one message

or anything from him

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from that day to this.

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Darren Tunstall left his family home

on December 3rd, 1992.

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He was 20-years-old.

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My relationship with Darren is very

close, always has been.

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My first child born,

and he was such an easy-going child,

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teenager, that I don't think we ever

had an argument.

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I don't think Darren

ever argued with anyone.

0:19:240:19:28

He was a loner, he was a loner,

he didn't have a lot of friends, no.

0:19:280:19:37

None that visited the house, anyway.

0:19:370:19:39

Darren was Sister Theresa.

0:19:390:19:41

Anne last saw Darren

when he came to visit her

0:19:410:19:44

during a brief stay in hospital.

0:19:440:19:45

The following day he told his dad

he was going to see a friend.

0:19:450:19:49

He never returned.

0:19:490:19:51

I actually discharged myself

because I was so anxious about him

0:19:510:19:56

going that it upset me

and I couldn't take the procedure.

0:19:560:20:03

And when I came home, I did find

a note to say that he'd gone away

0:20:030:20:06

for a couple of days and he'd be

back at the weekend.

0:20:060:20:10

I waited until the weekend and then

I had to actually phone up and,

0:20:100:20:14

you know, report him

a missing person.

0:20:140:20:16

And I've not heard one message

or anything from him

0:20:160:20:21

from that day to this,

not a sighting.

0:20:210:20:23

Nothing?

0:20:230:20:26

No.

0:20:260:20:30

And, you know, he's 6'5",

you know, he's not somebody

0:20:300:20:33

who could shrink in a crowd.

0:20:330:20:35

But nothing.

0:20:350:20:38

I was devastated because I couldn't

understand what was happening,

0:20:400:20:47

or why it was happening.

0:20:470:20:48

My impression was he thought it

may be something worse

0:20:480:20:51

than what I was going in for.

0:20:510:20:52

There was no discussion,

there was no argument,

0:20:520:20:54

there was no issues.

0:20:540:20:58

Darren, the up-and-coming chef.

0:20:580:21:03

Today, Darren would be 45.

0:21:030:21:05

I still visualise Darren

as a 20-year-old.

0:21:050:21:13

I try to go forward and think

along the lines of he's

0:21:130:21:16

changed but I don't know

what I'm looking at.

0:21:160:21:18

I'm still looking at

Darren as a 20-year-old.

0:21:180:21:21

Hello, Missing Persons Unit.

0:21:220:21:24

Detective Sergeant James Hardingham

took on Darren's missing

0:21:240:21:28

persons case two years ago.

0:21:280:21:32

He says it's very unusual

for someone to go missing

0:21:320:21:35

with so few clues as to why.

0:21:350:21:36

This particular case

is a bit of a mystery to us.

0:21:360:21:44

Darren was 20 years of age

when he went missing just

0:21:440:21:47

before his birthday and there's been

no sightings since.

0:21:470:21:50

There's been very few leads

for us to follow on,

0:21:500:21:55

and it is strange for someone to be

away from their family for such

0:21:550:21:59

a long period of time,

without either making

0:21:590:22:01

contact or having some sort

of sign to say that

0:22:010:22:03

he is still about.

0:22:030:22:07

It will be 25 years on 2nd

of December, and all I want to say

0:22:070:22:11

is if there's anybody that

knows his whereabouts,

0:22:110:22:15

or knows of him, would they either

contact the missing people,

0:22:150:22:22

or contact one of the family,

just to know that he's

0:22:220:22:24

OK and he is happy.

0:22:240:22:28

What would it mean

to you to know that?

0:22:280:22:32

Just everything.

0:22:320:22:38

It's the only thing I want in life.

0:22:380:22:40

I don't need or want anything else.

0:22:400:22:44

Just to know that he's happy.

0:22:440:22:46

Because that's all I want.

0:22:460:22:49

If he wants to live the life

that he is living now,

0:22:490:22:52

you know, I'm not worried.

0:22:520:22:56

I just want to know that he's safe.

0:22:560:23:02

People go missing for very different

reasons.

Maybe he just wanted to

0:23:090:23:17

live an independent life. Maybe he

wanted to stay away, something

0:23:170:23:22

around mental health. There's a lot

of contributing factors for someone

0:23:220:23:25

to go missing. But as we mentioned,

Darren is quite a unique case.

In

0:23:250:23:32

some cases, people don't want to be

found.

I do understand that, but

0:23:320:23:39

it's the family that's left behind.

It's suffering so much, just for a

0:23:390:23:48

phone call, and I would say that to

everybody who is missing. I've had a

0:23:480:23:52

few phone calls and there's been no

video at the end of it. I just

0:23:520:23:59

straightaway think it's him. There's

some silly people that phone up and

0:23:590:24:07

don't talk on things like that, but

I just always visualise it's him.

0:24:070:24:12

But I've never had a word, not one

word.

Is there any small part of you

0:24:120:24:19

that thinks Darren may have passed

away?

Well, no, not in my mind, no,

0:24:190:24:25

definitely not. No.

Do you think he

still out there somewhere?

0:24:250:24:32

I do, yeah, I feel he is, yeah.

0:24:320:24:34

I feel he is.

0:24:340:24:37

I don't want to even

think about that.

0:24:370:24:43

Police agree there is every chance

Darren is still alive.

0:24:430:24:47

Every person that is reported

missing or an unidentified body that

0:24:470:24:54

has been found, we run that across

and compare that to the cases that

0:24:540:24:58

we are dealing with. So if anything

had have come up now with Darren's

0:24:580:25:03

distinctive features, we'd have

identified if Darren had been found

0:25:030:25:06

in other any manner, whether it was

someone that had died for whatever

0:25:060:25:10

cause, or someone that had come to

the police attention through other

0:25:100:25:15

means.

0:25:150:25:19

He has built a strong relationship

with the family since taking on

0:25:240:25:27

Darren's case. How do you feel about

the anniversary coming up now?

It's

0:25:270:25:33

kind of upsetting, very upsetting.

But I think what you've done, and

0:25:330:25:38

the organisation has done, it is

amazing, to be quite honest. And you

0:25:380:25:42

have always been there for me.

Where

do you think he is?

I couldn't even

0:25:420:25:50

guess. He liked Cornwall. When we

went on holidays, he liked Ireland.

0:25:500:25:57

But if he went to anybody in Ireland

or he was in Ireland and he went to

0:25:570:26:02

one of my family, then they would

let me know. So I know he's not in

0:26:020:26:09

Ireland or visible in Ireland or

anyone has seen him. But I honestly

0:26:090:26:14

could not answer that question

truthfully, because I don't know.

If

0:26:140:26:19

Darren is watching today, what would

you want to say to him?

0:26:190:26:24

I would want to say

how much I love him.

0:26:240:26:26

Always have done.

0:26:260:26:32

And I would just encourage him

to call somebody just to let us

0:26:320:26:36

know, let the family know

that he's OK.

0:26:360:26:42

And I wish it would just end

because we just love him so much.

0:26:420:26:45

All of us.

0:26:450:26:55

A bit later programme we will speak

to Clare Cooke from missing people,

0:26:590:27:06

and also to Peter Boxall, whose son

went missing at the age of 15 in

0:27:060:27:11

1988. That is coming up after 10am

this morning.

0:27:110:27:15

The Royal Bank of Scotland

is cutting hundreds of jobs

0:27:150:27:19

and closing more than 250 RBS

and NatWest branches

0:27:190:27:21

across the country -

Kevin Peachy is here with me.

0:27:210:27:24

What has happened? 259 branches of

RBS and NatWest, that is one in four

0:27:240:27:33

of their branch network. There are

680 jobs going as well. The Unite

0:27:330:27:38

union says that is savage. The

reason for it? It is all to do with

0:27:380:27:43

mobile phones and the Internet.

One

of those.

Exactly, we are banking on

0:27:430:27:47

the go. According to industry

analysts, we're only going to visit

0:27:470:27:54

our bank branch about four times a

year by 2022, because we are using

0:27:540:27:58

apps and we are using the Internet

and we are just simply not going

0:27:580:28:04

into pay in checks and all those

traditional things that got people

0:28:040:28:08

queueing up outside the branches.

That may be true for you and me but

0:28:080:28:12

doesn't always apply to people who

are older and who do go into banks

0:28:120:28:15

and use them, rely on them all the

time. What about the people who are

0:28:150:28:20

worried about these branches

closing?

Yes, those left behind.

0:28:200:28:24

According to a recent report into

bank branch closures, to some people

0:28:240:28:29

it is like a bereavement, which is

incredible really. That they are so

0:28:290:28:34

attached to their branch. So there

is a brawl in place that says,

0:28:340:28:37

signed up to buy all the major

banks, say if the bank branches

0:28:370:28:43

closing and a local area, they must

support people with explaining what

0:28:430:28:46

the alternatives are. They are, for

example, going to the post office,

0:28:460:28:52

even new ATMs are doing many of

these functions but there must be

0:28:520:28:56

specially trained staff in place to

help people through and there must

0:28:560:29:00

be particular support for the

elderly and vulnerable.

Kevin, for

0:29:000:29:03

now, thank you very much.

0:29:030:29:05

Still to come...

0:29:050:29:07

A national review is taking place

after a hospital in Portsmouth

0:29:070:29:09

missed lung cancer cases

because staff who weren't

0:29:090:29:11

suitably trained were

carrying out the scans.

0:29:110:29:13

We'll look at why this could have

happened and the steps taken to keep

0:29:130:29:17

patients safe in the future.

0:29:170:29:18

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

are due to visit a World Aids Day

0:29:190:29:22

charity fair later, in the couple's

first joint official

0:29:220:29:24

public engagement.

0:29:240:29:27

It's an issue close

to Prince Harry's,

0:29:270:29:29

and his late mother Diana's, heart.

0:29:290:29:30

We'll talk to two people who have

been diagnosed with HIV.

0:29:300:29:33

Time for the latest

news - here's Annita.

0:29:400:29:47

The headlines on BBC News:

0:29:470:29:49

A former Scotland Yard detective has

told BBC News he was "shocked"

0:29:490:29:52

by the amount of pornography

on a Parliamentary computer

0:29:520:29:55

seized from the office

of the First Secretary of State,

0:29:550:29:57

Damian Green.

0:29:570:30:00

Neil Lewis, a computer forensics

specialist, examined the device

0:30:000:30:05

during an inquiry into

Government leaks in 2008.

0:30:050:30:08

Mr Lewis, who's now retired,

said he has "no doubt whatsoever"

0:30:080:30:11

that the images containing legal

pornographic material had been

0:30:110:30:13

accessed by Mr Green.

0:30:130:30:14

Mr Green has vehemently denied

looking at pornography at work.

0:30:140:30:22

Royal Bank of Scotland has announced

it's to close 259 branches

0:30:220:30:25

resulting in 680 job losses.

0:30:250:30:28

The latest round of closures

at the state-owned bank follows

0:30:280:30:31

180 announced in March.

0:30:310:30:32

The bank says it wants to reduce

costs and encourage customers to use

0:30:320:30:35

online and mobile services.

0:30:350:30:38

MPs scrutinising the Government's

Brexit plans says border controls

0:30:380:30:41

between Northern Ireland

and the Irish Republic

0:30:410:30:43

are inevitable if the UK

leaves the EU single

0:30:430:30:45

market and customs union.

0:30:450:30:49

The Commons Brexit Committee says

ministers have failed to explain how

0:30:490:30:53

the issue can be resolved,

and that the proposals

0:30:530:30:56

they've come up with,

such as the use of technology,

0:30:560:30:59

are "untested" and "speculative".

0:30:590:31:00

Four Conservatives and one

Democratic Unionist MP refused

0:31:000:31:02

to endorse the report.

0:31:020:31:10

Survivors and relatives of those

who died in the Grenfell Tower fire

0:31:100:31:13

are warning that the public inquiry

risks becoming a whitewash,

0:31:130:31:15

unless a diverse panel is appointed

to oversee the proceedings.

0:31:150:31:18

They are petitioning

Theresa May to intervene,

0:31:180:31:19

and they say the chairman,

Sir Martin Moore-Bick,

0:31:190:31:22

should sit with a range of people

who understand the issues facing

0:31:220:31:25

those affected by the disaster.

0:31:250:31:29

The Argentine navy has said

there is now no hope of rescuing

0:31:290:31:34

the 44 crew members

of a submarine that disappeared

0:31:340:31:36

in the South Atlantic two weeks ago.

0:31:360:31:39

A navy spokesman said

the international rescue operation

0:31:390:31:40

had officially ended,

but a smaller-scale

0:31:400:31:42

search for the wreck

of the San Juan would continue.

0:31:420:31:48

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

are to carry out their first joint

0:31:480:31:51

official visit later.

0:31:510:31:53

The couple, who announced

their engagement on Monday,

0:31:530:32:03

will meet members of the public

at charities in Nottingham.

0:32:030:32:06

They'll be married at

Windsor Castle in May.

0:32:060:32:08

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

0:32:080:32:12

Here's some sport now with Kat.

0:32:120:32:14

It's the day of destiny

for the 32 teams competing

0:32:140:32:17

at the World Cup next summer.

0:32:170:32:26

England have already chosen

their base near St Petersberg,

0:32:260:32:28

and they'll find out who they face

during the draw to be

0:32:280:32:31

held in the Kremlin

at 3pm this afternoon.

0:32:310:32:33

Sam Burgess will captain

England in tomorrow's

0:32:330:32:35

Rugby League World Cup final.

0:32:350:32:38

He replaces Sean O'Loughlin,

who's injured.

0:32:380:32:40

Burgess will also move

into the loose forward role,

0:32:400:32:42

with Ben Currie promoted

to the starting line-up

0:32:420:32:44

in the second row.

0:32:440:32:45

England all-rounder Moeen Ali

may not be fit to bowl

0:32:450:32:47

in the second Ashes Test,

which starts tomorrow.

0:32:470:32:49

He cut his finger in the defeat

in Brisbane but he'll

0:32:490:32:52

still play as a batsman,

even if he can't bowl.

0:32:520:32:56

He's been out since February

after more back surgery,

0:32:560:32:59

but Tiger Woods described his

opening round as "great",

0:32:590:33:01

as he made his latest return

to golf in the Bahamas.

0:33:010:33:04

He shot a three-under-par 69.

0:33:040:33:09

Not bad at all. Thank you.

0:33:090:33:11

The Care Quality Commission -

the independent inspector

0:33:110:33:14

of health services -

has revealed that a Portsmouth

0:33:140:33:17

hospital has a huge

backlog of 23,000 x-rays

0:33:170:33:19

going back a year that have not been

formally reviewed by a radiologist

0:33:190:33:22

or appropriately-trained clinician.

0:33:220:33:23

Inspectors discovered there have

been three serious incidents

0:33:230:33:30

where patients with lung cancer had

suffered significant harm

0:33:300:33:33

because their chest x-rays had not

been properly assessed

0:33:330:33:38

at Queen Alexandra Hospital -

a situation dubbed "clearly

0:33:380:33:40

unacceptable" by the regulator.

0:33:400:33:46

It comes amid a national

shortage of radiologists -

0:33:460:33:48

the CQC is now conducting a review

of all NHS England Trusts.

0:33:480:33:53

Let's talk now to Dr Caroline Rubin,

she's a vice-president from

0:33:530:33:56

the Royal College of Radiologists.

0:33:560:33:57

Paula Chadwick is CEO of the Roy

Castle Lung Cancer Foundation.

0:33:570:34:00

Siobhain McCurrach

is from the watchdog

0:34:000:34:02

Healthwatch Portsmouth -

they've been working

0:34:020:34:03

with the hospital over the past few

months on various issues reported

0:34:030:34:06

by the CQC.

0:34:060:34:15

Caroline, how significant, it sounds

like a shocking number, but how

0:34:150:34:19

significant is a delay of 23,000

x-rays?

It can be very significant

0:34:190:34:25

because within those unreported

images there may be significant

0:34:250:34:29

disease, we have heard about three

cancers that were missed and

0:34:290:34:33

progressed during that time, but

there is also a worry for patients

0:34:330:34:36

who may not have any significant

disease that their x-rays are normal

0:34:360:34:41

and they are not appropriately

reassured.

The CQC has found staff

0:34:410:34:46

who were not suitably trained were

carrying out scans just manage the

0:34:460:34:50

volume. How worrying that?

From what

I have read, I think that Portsmouth

0:34:500:34:56

were using junior doctors and senior

doctors on the wards and in clinics

0:34:560:35:00

to review the images, rather than

trained radiologists, and the RCR

0:35:000:35:08

advises that all images, the

majority of images, are reviewed and

0:35:080:35:14

reported on by qualified

radiologists who are specially

0:35:140:35:17

trained over at least five years in

all imaging modalities, including

0:35:170:35:22

chest x-rays and abdominal x-rays,

which is the subject of the report.

0:35:220:35:27

Sherborne, you have been involved in

improvement plans for the hospital,

0:35:270:35:31

in your opinion how bad have things

become -- Siobhain, you have been

0:35:310:35:37

involved.

We have been working with

the hospital through the feedback we

0:35:370:35:41

have received from patients to try

to improve how services are

0:35:410:35:44

delivered, and we rely on people in

Portsmouth to provide us with that

0:35:440:35:52

feedback so we can hopefully

influence decision-making to go

0:35:520:35:54

forward to improve services, and

often patients have very sensible,

0:35:540:36:01

common-sense suggestions to make,

and we are encouraging Healthwatch

0:36:010:36:07

Portsmouth members, stakeholders,

anyone who is interested in getting

0:36:070:36:09

involved, to help us provide that

feedback to reflect important

0:36:090:36:15

observation is that they have made

as they are around the hospital.

Can

0:36:150:36:20

you give us examples of the feedback

you have been receiving,

0:36:200:36:23

particularly at the worsening of the

scale?

We haven't received specific

0:36:230:36:29

feedback on the x-rays issue, but

have been receiving specific

0:36:290:36:34

feedback on particular services

within the emergency department or

0:36:340:36:45

gastroenterology department.

Paula,

what is your response to these

0:36:450:36:48

23,000 delays?

Firstly I would like

to say how sad and we are to hear

0:36:480:36:52

about these, these are people we are

talking about, not statistics, and

0:36:520:36:56

unfortunately they have been really

let down by the local health

0:36:560:36:59

services.

How does eight wait like

this, not knowing, not receiving

0:36:590:37:05

confirmation, reassurance that

nothing is wrong, or a late

0:37:050:37:09

diagnosis, how does that affect

patients?

It affects it

0:37:090:37:14

dramatically, and we know that early

diagnosis of lung cancer have a

0:37:140:37:17

significant impact on outcomes for

patients, so the earlier you were

0:37:170:37:22

diagnosed, it means there is

potential curative treatment. If

0:37:220:37:26

that diagnosis is delayed or

unfortunately latecomer diagnosis

0:37:260:37:30

made when the disease is advanced,

then unfortunately that reduces the

0:37:300:37:35

opposite -- options with curative

treatment, though there is treatment

0:37:350:37:38

for extension of life, but it takes

away the option for potential

0:37:380:37:43

curative treatment.

Can you give us

examples of timescales? And what the

0:37:430:37:49

repercussions could be? The

consequences with a late diagnosis

0:37:490:37:52

in terms of days and months?

We know

that 45,000 people are diagnosed

0:37:520:37:58

every year with lung cancer.

Unfortunately within one year,

0:37:580:38:01

35,000 of those will die so the

importance is that what we do have

0:38:010:38:08

is that very late diagnosis, the

normal average is about 200 days

0:38:080:38:14

from very late diagnosis to death.

So the importance, really, I can't

0:38:140:38:21

emphasise how important it is that

we have early diagnosis, which means

0:38:210:38:26

rapid access to CT scans and chest

x-rays but alongside that the

0:38:260:38:30

investment in having enough

radiologists to read those scans,

0:38:300:38:33

the specialist to read the scans.

Is

it especially bad from lung cancer

0:38:330:38:38

outcomes?

Rapid access the lung

cancer is very, very, yes, makes a

0:38:380:38:44

huge difference, a significant

difference into the outcomes of the

0:38:440:38:47

patients. It is the difference

between curative treatment and late

0:38:470:38:52

diagnosis is more about palliative

care.

How critical, Caroline, is the

0:38:520:38:58

shortage of radiologists?

It is very

critical and it doesn't just affect

0:38:580:39:02

Portsmouth, it affects a number of

other hospitals around the country.

0:39:020:39:06

The RCR has done snapshot surveys of

backlogs and there is only one in

0:39:060:39:12

five hospitals not reporting a

backlog of over a month. We need

0:39:120:39:17

significant increase in the number

of radiologists. The workload goes

0:39:170:39:22

up three times the rate of the

increase in radiologists and the UK

0:39:220:39:26

has the third lowest number of

radiologists per population in

0:39:260:39:30

Europe.

What is at the heart of the

problem? Is this about a lack of

0:39:300:39:35

investment in training new

radiologists, or are people not

0:39:350:39:39

interested in going for those jobs

and being trained to be radiologists

0:39:390:39:43

in the first place?

There is no lack

of interest in training in

0:39:430:39:47

radiology, we have just had the

figures for the applicants, there

0:39:470:39:50

are radiology opposed to the 2018,

there are over 900 applicants and

0:39:500:39:57

last year we appointed in the region

of 267 radiology trainees, so we

0:39:570:40:03

have plenty of applicants. We need

more training posts. The college and

0:40:030:40:10

departments around the country are

enabling access for those trainees

0:40:100:40:16

and increasing training capacity, so

it is really down to funding of

0:40:160:40:20

additional posts.

And why is the

workload of radiologists increasing?

0:40:200:40:25

I think it is largely because most

diagnoses are made now in every

0:40:250:40:30

patient with diagnostic imaging and

it is becoming the mainstay of

0:40:300:40:38

patient pathways, and it is the

complex imaging, particularly the CT

0:40:380:40:43

and MRI that is increasing, which

gives more intricate detail and

0:40:430:40:46

information compared with

radiography.

What training is

0:40:460:40:52

involved in becoming a radiologist

in the first place?

In becoming a

0:40:520:40:57

radiologist, a five-year training

programme in all imaging modalities

0:40:570:41:01

and all diseases, and if you want to

become an interventional radiologist

0:41:010:41:05

there as an additional year of

training required because

0:41:050:41:08

radiologists don't only do the

diagnosis, in terms of the imaging,

0:41:080:41:13

they do image guided biopsies and

interventions as well.

Going

0:41:130:41:19

forward, Siobhain, how are you going

to make sure that change actually

0:41:190:41:23

happens? I know this is not a

problem isolated to Portsmouth but

0:41:230:41:27

this particular hospital has been

highlighted.

We are working with the

0:41:270:41:33

hospitals trust in their quality

improvement plan, involving work

0:41:330:41:38

streams which we have been invited

to take part in over the next few

0:41:380:41:42

months, so we are going to be using

the evidence we have received from

0:41:420:41:47

patients to provide suggestions for

service improvements, both current

0:41:470:41:52

and future services.

Caroline,

Siobhain, Paula, thank you for

0:41:520:41:56

joining us this morning.

0:41:560:41:59

Portsmouth Hospitals NHS Trust chief

executive Mark Cubbon said: "We have

0:41:590:42:01

issued an unreserved apology

to the families of the three

0:42:010:42:04

patients who experienced harm

because of the delays to their care.

0:42:040:42:07

We have carried out a thorough

review of the scans and X-rays

0:42:070:42:12

reported so far - to date, nearly

50% of the backlog has been cleared

0:42:120:42:15

and we are in touch with any

patients as necessary."

0:42:150:42:26

Coming up:

0:42:280:42:29

A woman who lost her legs

in an accident that killed her

0:42:290:42:32

husband and daughter has now

had her prosthetic legs stolen.

0:42:320:42:34

We'll speak to her about

the effect that's had on her.

0:42:340:42:37

Prince Harry and his new fiancee

Meghan Markle will make their first

0:42:370:42:40

royal engagement today.

0:42:400:42:41

They're attending a charity fair

in Nottingham which is

0:42:410:42:43

marking World Aids Day -

an issue close to the Prince

0:42:430:42:46

and his late mother

Princess Diana's heart.

0:42:460:42:47

HIV is a virus which damages

the cells in a person's immune

0:42:470:42:50

system and weakens their ability

to fight everyday infection.

0:42:500:42:55

There are currently 100,000 people

living with HIV in the UK,

0:42:550:42:59

but now there are drugs which means

the diagnosis is no longer a death

0:42:590:43:02

sentence, do we still need

a day dedicated to it?

0:43:020:43:06

Let's first hear from

Elton John and David Furnish.

0:43:060:43:08

The couple spoke to Victoria a year

ago about their work

0:43:080:43:10

with Aids and HIV.

0:43:100:43:15

We've come so far scientifically

with this disease, more so than any

0:43:150:43:18

other disease in the world that,

you know, you shouldn't be afraid of

0:43:180:43:22

finding out your status

because there is now one or two

0:43:220:43:29

pills a day you can take.

0:43:290:43:32

In the past we

had AZT and people died.

0:43:320:43:35

Nowadays, we've come so far

with scientific discovery

0:43:350:43:36

and medicines have changed.

0:43:360:43:37

You can lead a very

healthy life with it.

0:43:370:43:40

You can live with HIV,

you don't die with it any

0:43:400:43:42

more, you live with it.

0:43:420:43:43

And, so, the more people

get tested and find

0:43:430:43:46

out their status, the more

likelihood that we will beat this

0:43:460:43:48

disease, or end it sooner

rather than later.

0:43:480:43:50

I don't know if you've seen

the survey this week that

0:43:500:43:53

suggests that a third of British

people think you can transfer HIV

0:43:530:43:56

through sharing a toothbrush.

0:43:560:43:57

I'm not surprised.

0:43:570:44:00

A Northern Ireland politician

said the other day he

0:44:000:44:03

didn't know that heterosexual people

could get AIDS, or HIV.

0:44:030:44:09

So, it's like, "What planet

are you living on?"

0:44:090:44:11

These are also misconceptions

from the 1980s.

0:44:110:44:13

I know!

0:44:130:44:14

It's crazy.

0:44:140:44:15

It shows in the fight against this

disease we can make fantastic

0:44:150:44:18

medical advances.

0:44:180:44:19

We can make great gains.

0:44:190:44:20

But stigma is a much more

difficult thing to shift.

0:44:200:44:23

Joining us now are two people

who have been diagnosed with HIV.

0:44:230:44:27

Jo Josh found out in 2008.

0:44:270:44:33

Krishen Samuel found out a year

later, when he was 22.

0:44:330:44:35

Also joining us is the director

of Stop Aids, Mike Podmore.

0:44:350:44:42

Jo, I want to start with you,

diagnosed in 2008, can you take us

0:44:420:44:46

back to that day and tell us what

happened when you found out?

I was

0:44:460:44:50

unusual in that I was really ill,

just after I had been infected, most

0:44:500:44:55

people probably don't know for

years, that is why there is a

0:44:550:44:58

problem, because they are not

tested, they don't know, they will

0:44:580:45:02

infect someone else. I was

difficult, I was very ill, which was

0:45:020:45:07

good for me commitment I could be

treated immediately and understand

0:45:070:45:10

what was happening.

What were your

symptoms?

I had a high temperature,

0:45:100:45:16

swollen glands, the temperature kept

going up and down, wouldn't go away.

0:45:160:45:20

When I was told that I was

HIV-positive, I can honestly

0:45:200:45:24

remember just two things, and they

are, I said, I can't die, my

0:45:240:45:30

daughter needs me, as a single

mother, and an HIV nurse who I still

0:45:300:45:34

know said I could live to be 100,

but I remember nothing else at all

0:45:340:45:38

from a 15 minute conversation.

What

has life been like since then?

It

0:45:380:45:44

took a couple of years to get my

head around it. Knowledge is power,

0:45:440:45:48

you have to have information to

understand what is happening, to be

0:45:480:45:51

able to adjust. I didn't know

anything about HIV, I didn't know

0:45:510:45:56

anybody who was HIV-positive. After

that, and also being involved with

0:45:560:46:01

quite a few of the National

organisations like the National aids

0:46:010:46:06

trust, I met other people and it is

talking to other people that

0:46:060:46:10

actually makes you feel OK. It is

like, we have been talking outside

0:46:100:46:15

and we both think exactly the same

thing, you were saying that,

0:46:150:46:18

Krishen?

0:46:180:46:22

You are diagnosed around the same

time, just a year apart, how did you

0:46:220:46:25

find out what happened?

My story is

a bit different from Jo's. I was

0:46:250:46:32

living in South Africa and it has a

large infection rate, the Heisenberg

0:46:320:46:36

people living with HIV globally. As

a sexually active man, I knew there

0:46:360:46:40

was a chance I could become infected

so I got regularly tested but all of

0:46:400:46:45

the test had been negative.

How

often were you tested?

In one year I

0:46:450:46:50

got tested eight times, the year

before my diagnosis, and they were

0:46:500:46:53

all negative. A huge sigh of relief

each time, going through the whole

0:46:530:46:58

process, the anxiety and so forth.

The ninth HIV test I had was

0:46:580:47:03

positive, unfortunately. I didn't

have any symptoms, I wasn't ill but

0:47:030:47:06

I knew as a sexually active gay man

I needed to get tested. Living in

0:47:060:47:11

the country in the world with the

most people with HIV, there was a

0:47:110:47:15

chance I would contract it. It was

devastating at the time. You're

0:47:150:47:24

questioning your survival and you're

thinking, am I going to survive, how

0:47:240:47:26

am I going to get through this? That

is really tricky, really difficult.

0:47:260:47:29

Receiving news like that, you are

never fully prepared for it.

It is

0:47:290:47:31

difficult to sum up a decade but

what has life been for you -- like

0:47:310:47:37

for you since then?

Great in many

senses, I've been incredibly

0:47:370:47:41

healthy, I'm on medication, I'm

undetectable which means my viral

0:47:410:47:45

load is very well managed. I can't

pass the virus on to anyone else.

0:47:450:47:50

I've had incredibly supportive

family and friends. Since moving to

0:47:500:47:53

London I've done activism with

groups and I've had a really

0:47:530:47:57

positive journey. I know that for

many people living with HIV, the

0:47:570:48:01

stigma, that discrimination means

they can't be as open about their

0:48:010:48:05

status, they can't talk about it,

not necessarily on television but to

0:48:050:48:08

their family or friends or people

close to them. In that sense, I've

0:48:080:48:12

been incredibly lucky.

Mike, I want

to talk to about testing but before

0:48:120:48:17

I do, much progress have we made?

We've made both globally and in the

0:48:170:48:22

UK, in the UK we've made a really

good progress, particular in recent

0:48:220:48:26

years. What we founded in 2016, the

UN targets for treatment and

0:48:260:48:32

diagnosis. And for the first time in

2016, there was a reduction in net

0:48:320:48:41

infection in gay men for the first

time in 30 years. Taking important

0:48:410:48:45

progress in the UK but still some

significant challenges we have to

0:48:450:48:49

face. Government funding for HIV

prevention. And also a problem that

0:48:490:48:58

there are still a considerable lack

of awareness among the public.

It is

0:48:580:49:04

obviously good this is an issue that

is very close to Prince Harry's

0:49:040:49:09

heart and his mother's. And the

impact of it being their first royal

0:49:090:49:13

engagement as a couple will be huge

and help raise awareness. But

0:49:130:49:17

outside of that, we don't seem to be

talking about HIV as much as we may

0:49:170:49:21

have done in the past.

That is

right. When I was a teenager in the

0:49:210:49:29

1980s we had big campaigns, don't

die of ignorance campaigns, they had

0:49:290:49:33

a big impact, especially me. I think

we need to have more public

0:49:330:49:37

education campaigns that alert

people to how you can transmit the

0:49:370:49:39

virus and how you can protect

yourself from HIV and what it means

0:49:390:49:43

to be living with HIV, that it is a

chronic disease that can be managed

0:49:430:49:46

and you can live for life. I think

challenging the misunderstanding and

0:49:460:49:51

misconceptions are really important

is.

Even now?

Absolutely.

You give

0:49:510:49:58

us a sense of the situation in the

UK and how it compares globally?

As

0:49:580:50:02

he said at the beginning of the

programme, 100,000 people around

0:50:020:50:05

living with HIV in the UK. We are

making significant progress. We need

0:50:050:50:10

to keep investing to make sure we

continue that progress.

Sorry, what

0:50:100:50:16

about testing. How are people tested

and who are they encouraged to be

0:50:160:50:25

tested by in this country?

I do

talks in colleges and schools. You

0:50:250:50:29

are saying people don't know enough,

and they don't. I was with some

0:50:290:50:33

brilliant kids in Brighton yesterday

and they really don't know. Being

0:50:330:50:37

able to tell them if they watch

television tomorrow they might just

0:50:370:50:40

see Prince Harry being tested.

And

Rihanna a year ago.

Absolutely. The

0:50:400:50:46

thing with him, it makes it normal

and wholesome. People with HIV are

0:50:460:50:51

sort of demonised. All of the

negative, wrong publicity about

0:50:510:50:56

spitting. You cannot transmit HIV by

spitting. It is a disgusting thing

0:50:560:51:00

to do but it won't give somebody

HIV. Those sorts of things make

0:51:000:51:05

people very negative, as if you must

be a bad person if you have HIV.

It

0:51:050:51:10

is also important for us to talk

about STIs in general, that young

0:51:100:51:15

people are at risk of contracting

STIs and HIV. I did a talk earlier

0:51:150:51:21

this year and spoke to lots of

people around the country are many

0:51:210:51:24

of them didn't have the awareness of

contracting HIV or other sexually

0:51:240:51:28

transmitted infections. Many young

people are more concerned about

0:51:280:51:31

unwanted pregnancies and so forth.

It's important for us to have the

0:51:310:51:35

discussion around HIV about getting

tested frequently, because the

0:51:350:51:38

testing is important on many

different levels. You can find out

0:51:380:51:42

if you're HIV negative or positive.

If you are HIV positive you can

0:51:420:51:46

start treatment immediately, which

means you won't infect someone else.

0:51:460:51:53

It is so important that you

encourage testing and initiatives

0:51:530:51:55

such as HIV testing week are so

important.

How often should you be

0:51:550:51:58

tested?

I think you should be tested

definitely frequently, just for your

0:51:580:52:03

own...

What does frequently mean? If

someone is watching, every three

0:52:030:52:09

months, for everyone?

If you are

sexually active and not sure of your

0:52:090:52:11

status.

Not just high-risk groups?

That's right. Any time you're about

0:52:110:52:17

to start a new relationship boy if

you haven't been tested recently, go

0:52:170:52:21

and get a test. It's easy, at your

sexual health clinic with your

0:52:210:52:26

doctor to get a test and it takes

minutes. A prick of the finger and

0:52:260:52:30

can find out.

New research from the

National aids trust which reveals

0:52:300:52:36

meths and stigma are still common in

the press. What are the most common

0:52:360:52:43

misconceptions people have? You

mentioned spitting, Jo Whistler also

0:52:430:52:47

that you can transmit HIV through

kissing or biting.

Fighting has got

0:52:470:52:52

quite big! Sorry to interrupt,

biting has got quite big recently

0:52:520:52:56

and it is not true, but there are

still people who think if they touch

0:52:560:53:00

something you have touched, it will

cause problems. I've been in a

0:53:000:53:04

situation in a doctor 's surgery

where a nurse and fortunately shared

0:53:040:53:08

my status with the people there. You

could see them moving away.

It's a

0:53:080:53:13

real challenge, in terms of the

stigma that still surrounds HIV and

0:53:130:53:18

which people experience on a daily

basis. I think it separates HIV from

0:53:180:53:24

any other chronic diseases and it

shouldn't be. We have do understand

0:53:240:53:27

and combat that stigma and that's

down to raising awareness and

0:53:270:53:32

through public education campaigns,

like I mentioned, but also in

0:53:320:53:35

schools. It is important to make

people aware it is possible to live

0:53:350:53:39

a full life living with HIV. If you

are responding to treatment and in

0:53:390:53:50

some cases you don't pass it on.

World AIDS Day is still really

0:53:500:53:53

important.

It is partly for memory

to remember the people that died.

0:53:530:54:00

Freddie Mercury, 26 years ago this

week, died. He didn't want the

0:54:000:54:05

diagnosis or a test because at that

time there was nothing, no

0:54:050:54:09

medication he could take. They knew

if he was tested, that was it, he

0:54:090:54:12

would just know he was going to die.

Originally people took 30 pills a

0:54:120:54:18

day, now it's on.

It's about three

things, I think. As well as wearing

0:54:180:54:24

the red ribbon, it's about three

things. We mentioned remembering. 35

0:54:240:54:30

million people have died from the

disease since the epidemic began. We

0:54:300:54:33

need to remember them. Secondly, we

need to stand in solidarity with the

0:54:330:54:38

36.7 million people around the world

who are living with HIV at the

0:54:380:54:41

moment, and many of whom don't have

access to the services many of us

0:54:410:54:45

enjoying the UK. Thirdly, it's about

renewing our commitment to fight the

0:54:450:54:50

disease globally. As we mentioned,

we are doing really well in the UK

0:54:500:54:53

but we need to maintain that

progress. Globally, however, we have

0:54:530:54:57

been making progress but 21 million

people have access to but still 50

0:54:570:55:03

million people don't have access to

even basic treatment. -- 15 million.

0:55:030:55:07

We need to make faster progress with

prevention and in many countries

0:55:070:55:12

they are criminalising laws that

prevent people from accessing the

0:55:120:55:15

services they need. There are many

groups around the world who are

0:55:150:55:20

particularly affected by HIV. Many

who have sex men cut gay men, sex

0:55:200:55:25

workers, injecting drug users, and

many of them live in countries where

0:55:250:55:28

they don't have access to services,

where they are criminalised. We have

0:55:280:55:32

significant challenges. Just at this

point, as we are doing well but have

0:55:320:55:35

a long way to go, we are finding

that global donors are deep

0:55:350:55:41

prioritising HIV. We have had in the

last couple of years a reduction in

0:55:410:55:44

funding. This is exactly the wrong

thing that we need to be doing,

0:55:440:55:48

because what it risks is a

resurgence of the disease and a

0:55:480:55:51

higher cost, in terms of lives, and

funding in the long term. What we

0:55:510:55:57

need, the UN estimates we need an

additional $7 billion by 2020. If we

0:55:570:56:02

can invest that money, what happens

if we can make the progress in

0:56:020:56:06

treatment and prevention and

reducing infections which would get

0:56:060:56:09

us on the right trajectory to 2030

to meet the UN goal of ending Aids

0:56:090:56:16

by 2030.

Ujah stated the case there.

Thank you. I wanted to ask you both,

0:56:160:56:23

on a day-to-day basis, living with

HIV, living perfectly normal lives,

0:56:230:56:27

at what point, if you are dating for

example, would you tell someone you

0:56:270:56:32

have it?

That is always a difficult

question to answer. I find I

0:56:320:56:35

experience quite a lot of

discrimination and stigma and I

0:56:350:56:39

always need to think about when

would be the right time to tell

0:56:390:56:41

somebody. In the LGBT community and

gay community there is still a lot

0:56:410:56:46

of

0:56:460:56:56

misinformation. People still don't

know a lot about how HIV is

0:56:590:57:01

transmitted and what undetectable

means. Really there is no right

0:57:010:57:03

time. I've been rejected frequently

as a result of my HIV status.

When

0:57:030:57:06

you say rejected, from partners or

people you've been on a date with?

0:57:060:57:08

Partners, people I'm dating, if I

tell them I'm HIV positive they

0:57:080:57:11

don't want to deal with it because

they don't have the correct

0:57:110:57:13

information. It is always difficult.

You don't now how people will deal

0:57:130:57:17

with it when you come out with that.

Thank you both very much indeed.

0:57:170:57:21

Let's get the latest weather update.

A few snowflakes yesterday and a

0:57:210:57:26

mild sense of panic in the capital.

Simon King, how does it look for the

0:57:260:57:30

weekend?

0:57:300:57:31

Simon King, how does it look for the

weekend?

0:57:310:57:33

A few flakes falling in the capital

and lots of excitement. Snow

0:57:330:57:38

affecting eastern areas on the north

and east of Scotland yesterday. This

0:57:380:57:41

morning, still a few snow flurries

across the Scottish Borders, the

0:57:410:57:45

north-east of England, but much less

snow this morning compared to

0:57:450:57:50

yesterday morning. Temperatures are

rising little bit. The wind

0:57:500:57:54

direction changes to north-westerly

direction and with that some less

0:57:540:57:57

cold air is going to filter in over

the next few days. For many of us,

0:57:570:58:02

quite a bit of cloud this morning.

Cloudy conditions prevalent over the

0:58:020:58:06

next few days. This morning we had a

few snow showers, but increasingly

0:58:060:58:11

any snow will turn back to rain.

Still a few showers affecting these

0:58:110:58:15

eastern areas of England. Across

Scotland, snow disappears. Still

0:58:150:58:20

some lying snow over higher ground,

but more cloud this afternoon,

0:58:200:58:25

patchy rain spreading in and

temperatures on the rise. 7 degrees

0:58:250:58:29

in Stornoway. A bit of rain for

Northern Ireland. For much of

0:58:290:58:33

north-west England, Wales and the

south-west of England, looking like

0:58:330:58:37

a dry and sunny afternoon. We have

lost the showers in Pembrokeshire

0:58:370:58:40

and Cornwall. There will still be a

few rain showers affecting East

0:58:400:58:45

Yorkshire, Lincoln Chafee and down

towards East Anglia. Through

0:58:450:58:49

tonight, cloud will continue to move

further southward and with it some

0:58:490:58:54

patchy rain spreading into central

and southern areas across Wales, but

0:58:540:58:57

with a blanket of cloud overnight

tonight, not as cold as it has been

0:58:570:59:02

on previous nights this week.

Temperatures staying up in about

0:59:020:59:05

2-3, so above freezing.

The less cold air is going to filter

0:59:050:59:11

right across the UK over the

weekend. With that milder weather,

0:59:110:59:15

there will be a lot more cloud

around and there will also be a

0:59:150:59:19

little bit of rain, particularly on

Saturday.

0:59:190:59:24

Looking at Saturday, a cloudy and

grey start to the day. With that,

0:59:240:59:27

some rain affecting Wales through

East Anglia and the south-east of

0:59:270:59:30

England. Much of that will play. For

many of us, a dry day on Saturday.

0:59:300:59:34

Further rain spreading to the far

north of Scotland. Some breaks in

0:59:340:59:38

the cloud developing to give some

bright spells but for most of us,

0:59:380:59:41

fairly cloudy. Look at those

temperatures, 7-9.

0:59:410:59:46

Saturday night will see this weather

fronts move southwards. It will

0:59:460:59:52

introduce a bit more rain to central

and southern areas early on on

0:59:520:59:55

Sunday morning. That will clear. For

many of us on Sunday, a cloudy day,

0:59:550:59:58

a few breaks developing in the crowd

here and there. Largely dry

0:59:581:00:04

conditions. Up to 11. See you later.

1:00:041:00:07

Hello, it is 10am, I am Tina the

Healy.

1:00:171:00:20

A former detective says he has no

doubts the senior Cabinet minister,

1:00:201:00:23

Damian Green, accessed pornography

on a computer in his

1:00:231:00:25

parliamentary office

when he was an opposition MP

1:00:251:00:27

nine years ago.

1:00:271:00:28

Mr Green has denied doing so.

1:00:281:00:29

The computer was in Mr Green's

office, on his desk,

1:00:291:00:40

logged in, it's his

account, his name.

1:00:411:00:43

In between browsing pornography,

he was sending emails from his

1:00:431:00:45

account, from his personal account.

1:00:451:00:49

The first British television

interview with model Kadian Noble,

1:00:491:00:51

who alleges she was sexually

assaulted by Hollywood

1:00:511:00:53

mogul Harvey Weinstein,

and accuses him of sex trafficking.

1:00:531:01:02

I kept saying stop,

and he would take a firm grip of me

1:01:021:01:07

and told me to relax

and to trust him, and I think part

1:01:071:01:11

of me massively shut down.

1:01:111:01:14

Darren Tunstal went

missing 25 years ago.

1:01:141:01:19

His mother thinks he

might still be alive.

1:01:191:01:21

And she's been speaking

exclusively to this programme.

1:01:211:01:26

I've had a few phonecalls

and there's been no-one

1:01:261:01:29

at the end of it.

1:01:291:01:34

I just straight away think it's him.

1:01:341:01:42

There are some silly people that

phone up and don't talk, but I just

1:01:421:01:45

always visualise it's him.

1:01:451:01:47

And we'll hear from a father whose

15-year-old son went missing

1:01:471:01:50

almost 30 years ago.

1:01:501:01:58

Good morning.

1:01:581:01:59

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news.

1:01:591:02:07

A former Scotland Yard detective has

told BBC News he was "shocked"

1:02:071:02:10

by the amount of pornography

on a Parliamentary computer

1:02:101:02:13

seized from the office

of the First Secretary of State,

1:02:131:02:15

Damian Green.

1:02:151:02:18

Neil Lewis, a computer forensics

specialist, examined the device

1:02:181:02:23

during an inquiry into

Government leaks in 2008.

1:02:231:02:25

Mr Lewis, who's now retired,

said he has "no doubt whatsoever"

1:02:251:02:30

that the images containing legal

pornographic material had been

1:02:301:02:32

accessed by Mr Green.

1:02:321:02:36

Mr Green has vehemently denied

looking at pornography at work.

1:02:361:02:40

Royal Bank of Scotland has announced

it's to close 259 branches

1:02:401:02:43

resulting in 680 job losses.

1:02:431:02:46

The latest round of closures

at the state-owned bank follows

1:02:461:02:49

180 announced in March.

1:02:491:02:53

The bank says it wants to reduce

costs and encourage customers to use

1:02:531:02:56

online and mobile services.

1:02:561:03:01

MPs scrutinising the Government's

Brexit plans says border controls

1:03:011:03:03

between Northern Ireland

and the Irish Republic

1:03:031:03:07

are inevitable if the UK leaves

the EU single market

1:03:071:03:09

and customs union.

1:03:091:03:10

The Commons Brexit Committee says

ministers have failed to explain how

1:03:101:03:13

the issue can be resolved,

and that the proposals

1:03:131:03:15

they've come up with,

such as the use of technology,

1:03:151:03:17

are "untested" and "speculative".

1:03:171:03:18

The Labour MP, Hilary Benn,

is the chair of the committee.

1:03:181:03:26

Currently, we don't see how it

will be possible to reconcile

1:03:261:03:29

on the one hand the objective

that the Government has set out,

1:03:291:03:32

that there should be no border

and no physical infrastructure

1:03:321:03:34

after we leave, which is

an objective that we all support

1:03:341:03:37

and share, including the government

of the Republic of Ireland.

1:03:371:03:39

And, on the other hand,

the decision the Government has

1:03:391:03:41

reached to leave the customs union

and the single market, because it

1:03:411:03:46

will then become the border

between the United Kingdom

1:03:461:03:48

and the other 27 member states

of the European Union.

1:03:481:03:52

Now, you're right, the Government

has suggested that technology

1:03:521:03:53

A hospital failed to spot cases

of lung cancer because it did not

1:03:571:04:00

check patients' chest X-rays

properly, the Care Quality

1:04:001:04:02

Commission has found.

1:04:021:04:03

The health watchdog says three

patients at Queen Alexandra Hospital

1:04:031:04:05

in Portsmouth suffered "significant

harm".

1:04:051:04:07

Junior doctors complained they had

been asked to carry out

1:04:071:04:09

specialist radiology work

without the appropriate training.

1:04:091:04:12

The CQC has now launched

a review of NHS radiology

1:04:121:04:14

services in England.

1:04:141:04:21

Survivors and relatives of those

who died in the Grenfell Tower fire

1:04:211:04:25

are warning that the public inquiry

risks becoming a whitewash,

1:04:251:04:28

unless a diverse panel is appointed

to oversee the proceedings.

1:04:281:04:32

They are petitioning

Theresa May to intervene,

1:04:321:04:37

and they say the chairman,

Sir Martin Moore-Bick,

1:04:371:04:39

should sit with a range of people

who understand the issues facing

1:04:391:04:42

those affected by the disaster.

1:04:421:04:43

The Argentine navy has said

there is now no hope of rescuing

1:04:431:04:46

the 44 crew members of a submarine

that disappeared in the South

1:04:461:04:49

Atlantic two weeks ago.

1:04:491:04:51

A navy spokesman said

the international rescue operation

1:04:511:04:53

had officially ended,

but a smaller-scale

1:04:531:04:54

search for the wreck

of the San Juan would continue.

1:04:541:05:01

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

are to carry out their first joint

1:05:011:05:04

official visit later.

1:05:041:05:06

The couple, who announced

their engagement on Monday,

1:05:061:05:08

will meet members of the public

at a number of charities

1:05:081:05:11

in Nottingham.

1:05:111:05:12

They'll be married at

Windsor Castle in May.

1:05:121:05:14

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

1:05:141:05:17

More at 10.30am.

1:05:171:05:20

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Here's some sport now with Kat.

1:05:291:05:31

It's the moment that really kicks

off the countdown to the World Cup.

1:05:311:05:36

The draw begins at around

3pm this afternoon

1:05:361:05:39

in the Kremlin, with England

and the other 31 teams in the hat

1:05:391:05:42

finding out who and when they'll be

playing their group games.

1:05:421:05:45

Our sports news correspondent

Richard Conway will be watching.

1:05:451:05:51

It is Russia's moment in the

spotlight, with final rehearsals for

1:05:511:05:55

the World Cup draw ensuring nothing

is left to chance. Some of the

1:05:551:05:58

biggest names in the game are here

to lend a hand, too. Amongst them,

1:05:581:06:03

one of England's 1966 heroes, who

hopes the current squad can make

1:06:031:06:07

their mark next summer.

If they can

get this team together, playing with

1:06:071:06:13

each other, for each other, then

there is always a chance.

England

1:06:131:06:18

will base themselves in a village

north of Saint Petersburg with their

1:06:181:06:21

manager looking forward to what lies

ahead.

We don't have many players

1:06:211:06:26

that have won major trophies, but

the future is very exciting, it is a

1:06:261:06:31

great challenge for this group to

see how far they can go.

Star

1:06:311:06:35

attractions both on and off the

pitch will draw thousands of fans

1:06:351:06:39

here to Russia next summer.

Organisers say everyone will be

1:06:391:06:44

welcome for what they believe will

be a festival of football.

1:06:441:06:47

Nevertheless the game here has had

problems in the recent past,

1:06:471:06:50

specifically with racism and

violence, but campaigners are

1:06:501:06:54

cautiously optimistic that things

may be improving.

We have moved from

1:06:541:06:59

a position of denial to a state

where the Russians understand that

1:06:591:07:04

they need to clean up the stadiums,

deal with some of the fans that are

1:07:041:07:07

the hard-core, otherwise people

won't want to come and it may well

1:07:071:07:11

rebound back at them during the

World Cup.

Today, though, the focus

1:07:111:07:15

is on the big draw, with all 32

teams keen to discover their

1:07:151:07:21

footballing fate. Richard Conway,

BBC News, Moscow.

1:07:211:07:24

England's footballers might be hard

pushed to win the World Cup,

1:07:241:07:27

but England's rugby league team

have a much better chance.

1:07:271:07:30

They're playing the final

of the Rugby League World

1:07:301:07:32

Cup tomorrow morning.

1:07:321:07:34

Bad news overnight is that they'll

be without their captain,

1:07:341:07:36

Sean O'Loughlin, who has

a thigh strain.

1:07:361:07:38

Sam Burgess will lead the side.

1:07:381:07:42

He captained England in last year's

Four Nations series,

1:07:421:07:45

and assistant coach

Dennis Betts said Burgess was a

1:07:451:07:47

"doer" and a "leader"

and the natural replacement.

1:07:471:07:54

Cricket, and England all-rounder

Moeen Ali may not be fit to bowl

1:07:541:07:57

in the second Ashes Test,

which starts tomorrow.

1:07:571:07:59

He cut his finger in the defeat

in Brisbane but he'll

1:07:591:08:01

still play as a batsman,

even if he can't bowl in Adelaide.

1:08:011:08:04

The decision was give an extra day

of the arrested and tried to make

1:08:041:08:10

sure it is as ready as it can be, we

will have another look at things

1:08:101:08:13

after practice and see how he is

then, see if there is any more

1:08:131:08:17

damage to it, then we will have to

make a decision from there. After

1:08:171:08:20

the end of practice we will have a

clear decision. His batting has been

1:08:201:08:24

a huge part of the team for a long

time now so I think he would still

1:08:241:08:29

play as a batter.

So a rugby World Cup final to look

1:08:291:08:35

forward to and the second Ashes

Test, it will be a busy weekend of

1:08:351:08:38

sport.

Thanks.

1:08:381:08:39

Darren Tunstall left his family home

in east London on a Thursday

1:08:391:08:42

evening in December.

1:08:421:08:43

He left a note saying

he was going to see friends,

1:08:431:08:45

but he never returned.

1:08:451:08:46

That was 25 years ago.

1:08:461:08:48

This Sunday - the 3rd -

will mark a quarter of a century

1:08:481:08:51

since Darren disappeared.

1:08:511:08:52

The 20-year-old left no other clues

as to where he went.

1:08:521:08:55

His family has no idea why he left.

1:08:551:09:00

Dan Clark-Neal has been speaking

exclusively to Darren's mum, Ann,

1:09:001:09:03

ahead of the 25th anniversary

of her son's disappearance.

1:09:031:09:09

The last time I saw Darren

was on the Wednesday evening,

1:09:091:09:13

and then I had to actually phone up

and report him a missing person.

1:09:131:09:19

And I've not heard one message

or anything from him

1:09:191:09:21

from that day to this.

1:09:211:09:26

Darren Tunstall left his family home

on December 3rd, 1992.

1:09:261:09:30

He was 20 years old.

1:09:301:09:37

Darren was Sister Theresa.

1:09:371:09:40

Anne last saw Darren

when he came to visit her

1:09:401:09:42

during a brief stay in hospital.

1:09:421:09:44

The following day he told his dad

he was going to see a friend.

1:09:441:09:48

He never returned.

1:09:481:09:53

When I came home, I did find a note

to say that he'd gone away

1:09:531:09:57

for a couple of days and he'd be

back at the weekend.

1:09:571:10:00

I waited until the weekend and then

I had to actually phone up and,

1:10:001:10:03

you know, report him

a missing person.

1:10:031:10:05

And I've not heard one message

or anything from him

1:10:051:10:09

from that day to this.

1:10:091:10:12

Darren, the up-and-coming chef.

1:10:121:10:14

Today Darren would be 45.

1:10:141:10:17

I still visualise Darren

as a 20-year-old.

1:10:171:10:24

I try to go forward and think

along the lines of he's

1:10:241:10:27

changed but I don't know

what I'm looking at.

1:10:271:10:29

I'm still looking at

Darren as a 20-year-old.

1:10:291:10:38

It will be 25 years on 2nd December,

and all I want to say

1:10:381:10:44

is if there's anybody that

knows his whereabouts,

1:10:441:10:54

or knows of him, would they either

contact the Missing People,

1:10:541:10:57

or contact one of the family, just

to know that he's OK and he's happy.

1:10:571:11:01

What would it mean

to you to know that?

1:11:011:11:03

Just everything.

1:11:031:11:09

It's the only thing I want in life.

1:11:091:11:11

I don't need or want anything else.

1:11:111:11:14

Just to know that he's happy.

1:11:141:11:17

Because that's all I want.

1:11:171:11:20

If he wants to live the life

that he's living now,

1:11:201:11:22

you know, I'm not worried.

1:11:221:11:25

I just want to know that he's safe.

1:11:251:11:28

Do you think he's still

out there somewhere?

1:11:281:11:33

I do, yeah.

1:11:331:11:34

I feel he is, yeah.

1:11:341:11:36

I feel he is.

1:11:361:11:38

I don't want to even

think about that.

1:11:381:11:42

I've had a few phone

calls and there's been

1:11:421:11:47

nobody at the end of it.

1:11:471:11:50

I just straightaway think it's him.

1:11:501:11:54

You know, there's some silly people

that phone up and, you know,

1:11:541:11:58

don't talk and things like that,

but I just always

1:11:581:12:00

visualise it's him.

1:12:001:12:03

But I've never had

a word, not one word.

1:12:031:12:13

Utterly heartbreaking for any parent

having to go through that situation.

1:12:171:12:21

Dude has been in touch with us on

Facebook and said it will be seven

1:12:211:12:26

years in January since I last spoke

to my own son. As he is an adult,

1:12:261:12:29

the police would do anything. Like

this lady, if he wants to live as he

1:12:291:12:34

is, apart from his family, I would

try to understand, but I would so

1:12:341:12:38

dearly love to know he is OK. It

breaks my heart every single day.

1:12:381:12:44

We can speak now to Peter Boxell,

whose son Lee went missing aged 15

1:12:441:12:47

in 1988, and Clare Cook,

from the charity Missing People.

1:12:471:12:52

So difficult to watch, and your son

went missing in 1988, tell us what

1:12:521:12:56

happened?

1988, Lee was only 15,

just a child, but he wanted to go to

1:12:561:13:04

a football match, so he went to

Sutton with a friend in the morning

1:13:041:13:10

and unfortunately his friend had to

leave him, so Lee was left on his

1:13:101:13:14

own in Sutton, he had no idea how to

get to a football match at all, and

1:13:141:13:21

he is not the sort of boy who would

go on his own, he is a bit shy,

1:13:211:13:25

wasn't streetwise, so the police

investigation started along those

1:13:251:13:32

lines after reporting him missing,

they knew that Lee was not a

1:13:321:13:38

runaway, they were convinced

something had happened to him, so

1:13:381:13:42

they searched football grounds, made

appeals at football grounds, etc.

1:13:421:13:46

But a few years ago they reviewed

the case and they believe that our

1:13:461:13:52

son was murdered, but we still don't

know for sure whether Lee is still

1:13:521:13:58

alive or dead, and every day I

think, it is called, is he safe, if

1:13:581:14:06

you warm, if he out somewhere in the

cold, is he alive or dead? It is not

1:14:061:14:12

knowing which is so painful for all

these years, 29 years of living with

1:14:121:14:17

that not knowing, living in limbo,

not knowing whether our son is

1:14:171:14:21

alive, and well.

Nearly three

decades you have been living like

1:14:211:14:26

this. What are your coping

strategies for getting through

1:14:261:14:31

everyday?

When Lee first went

missing it was just like a living

1:14:311:14:36

nightmare but after a few weeks I

decided that I didn't want a nervous

1:14:361:14:41

breakdown, I even considered suicide

at one stage, but I put that out of

1:14:411:14:45

my mind because I didn't want to

hurt those that I love. My daughter

1:14:451:14:51

commonly's sister, my wife and

family, and I wanted everything to

1:14:511:14:54

be the same Lee comes home so I went

back to work, carried on as best as

1:14:541:15:00

I could, kept things going as

normal. In 1993, this wonderful

1:15:001:15:06

charity, Missing People, was formed,

and they have given me so much

1:15:061:15:09

support and help. They have helped

us get Lee's story into the media

1:15:091:15:14

year after year after year and keep

Lee's memory alive. Hopefully one

1:15:141:15:19

day somebody will come forward and

tell us what happened to our son and

1:15:191:15:22

we will find him. If he is alive,

that would be fantastic. Even if he

1:15:221:15:28

was murdered, we just want to know

what happened to him and where his

1:15:281:15:32

remains are so we can start to

grieve if that is the worst case.

1:15:321:15:37

Clare, how rare is it for someone to

be missing for this amount of time

1:15:371:15:41

without some sort of resolution?

The

good news is that, although 250,000

1:15:411:15:47

people go missing in the UK every

year, the vast majority are found

1:15:471:15:51

within the first 24 to 48 hours and

within the first year 99% of people

1:15:511:15:56

are found alive or dead.

99%?

The

vast, vast majority are found. For

1:15:561:16:04

that 1% of families, very sadly, the

longer someone is missing, the more

1:16:041:16:08

likely it is they have come to harm

and are less likely it is they are

1:16:081:16:13

subsequently found, so those

families are the ones we support day

1:16:131:16:19

after day, 24/7 via our helpline and

services.

What type of support is

1:16:191:16:24

available for these families?

The

charity Missing People has a 24-hour

1:16:241:16:28

confidential helpline that is there

for the families throughout the day

1:16:281:16:31

and in the dark of night when they

need someone to talk to. We can also

1:16:311:16:36

offer a telephone counselling, and

we are able to bring families

1:16:361:16:40

together, because obviously there is

a very unique experience, so sharing

1:16:401:16:43

it with someone who knows exactly

what you are going through is very

1:16:431:16:48

helpful and powerful. In fact, we

even set up a choir, the Missing

1:16:481:16:52

People choir.

This is great, tell us

what it is?

It is a choir for

1:16:521:16:57

families with missing loved ones,

and it was set up in 2014 by myself

1:16:571:17:04

and James Hawkins to bring families

together so they can sing as a sort

1:17:041:17:08

of cathartic experience and to get

their message out there to their

1:17:081:17:11

missing loved ones. We ended up

going on Britain's Got Talent this

1:17:111:17:18

year and being able to share the

message globally and as a result two

1:17:181:17:22

people were found because we had

appeals for missing people behind

1:17:221:17:25

us.

That is fantastic, how did you

find the experience of taking part

1:17:251:17:30

and joining the choir?

Amazing, so

uplifting, singing a song which I

1:17:301:17:36

wrote the lyrics for, I Miss You,

which we used on Britain's got

1:17:361:17:43

talent, it allowed me to express my

emotions, because being a bloke I

1:17:431:17:47

keep them to myself. If it was not

for this charity, I don't know what

1:17:471:17:52

I would have done, but it has kept

my son's story alive and other

1:17:521:17:55

stories of others that are missing.

There are several members of the

1:17:551:17:58

choir who have missing loved ones

are missing since about 1989 or so,

1:17:581:18:05

so very long times, and I just love

to send it, it is a fantastic

1:18:051:18:13

experience on Britain's Got Talent

and it has led to greater things, we

1:18:131:18:18

have now got a new project which is

called Choirs For Purpose which is

1:18:181:18:26

made up of 12 choirs including

Missing People, all from different

1:18:261:18:30

charities, very deserving charities,

we have a single out now which is

1:18:301:18:37

called We Stand Together, the Paul

McCartney song, that has his

1:18:371:18:41

blessing, and an album is about to

be released.

1:18:411:18:47

The stories you talked about, the

two people who were found because of

1:18:471:18:52

Britain's Got Talent and their

singing in it, what are their

1:18:521:18:59

stories?

We sang with those people

behind us. One of the young boys saw

1:18:591:19:04

his own appeal, picked up the phone

and called his mother and was

1:19:041:19:08

reunited. Another person was not

actually appealed for that she was

1:19:081:19:11

missing herself and again, saw the

performance, realised the charity,

1:19:111:19:16

that there was help out there to be

had and called to the charity and

1:19:161:19:21

got the support she needed and has

now been reunited with her family as

1:19:211:19:24

well.

For us, the big prize...

Britain's Got Talent, getting some

1:19:241:19:35

families reunited, that was it for

us.

What about your relationships.

1:19:351:19:43

If you lose a child, if your child

goes missing, that must put an

1:19:431:19:46

incredible strain?

It does,. I said

earlier, I've tried to keep

1:19:461:19:52

everything as normal as possible. I

went back to work. My wife and I

1:19:521:19:57

kept busy making appeals with help

from Missing People charity. There's

1:19:571:20:01

no other charity to help us, no

other organisation, that was our

1:20:011:20:04

lifeline. They've been there every

day since Lee has been missing to

1:20:041:20:12

help us. It is a strain, there have

been very difficult times, like

1:20:121:20:17

Christmas... Do we lay an extra

place at the table in case Lee

1:20:171:20:20

should appear?

Do you?

We stopped

doing that now. There is always

1:20:201:20:26

plenty of food, we could always

organise something... But I'm

1:20:261:20:29

beginning to accept Lee is no longer

with us, I think he has been

1:20:291:20:35

murdered. But that remains to be

seen. I don't know if you are aware

1:20:351:20:39

of this, but in 2013, when sang my

first song for the charity, called

1:20:391:20:50

Where is Lee, there was an

investigation... The police thought

1:20:501:20:59

Lee had been murdered and buried in

a graveyard. They excavated an

1:20:591:21:06

entire graveyard, it took a year.

There was an archaeological dig in

1:21:061:21:11

the whole graveyard but sadly no

remains of my son... I say sadly...

1:21:111:21:16

At least...

It is so difficult. How

does your daughter feel?

She doesn't

1:21:161:21:21

talk about it.

OK.

I think she's,

she might start speaking about it

1:21:211:21:28

soon, I hope she does. She's

actually finally agreed to join our

1:21:281:21:31

choir.

Great. That's a lovely

positive note to end on. Thank you

1:21:311:21:38

so much for coming in and talking to

us about your story. I know that

1:21:381:21:42

must have been had. Thank you, as

well.

1:21:421:21:45

In May 2013, Victoria Milligan

was enjoying a family holiday

1:21:451:21:48

in Cornwall when tragedy struck.

1:21:481:21:51

Her husband and one of her four

children was killed

1:21:511:21:54

in a speedboat accident -

in which Victoria also

1:21:541:22:01

lost her left leg below the knee.

1:22:011:22:03

Four years later, Victoria

has rebuilt her life.

1:22:031:22:05

She's carried on working

as a fitness instructor and speaks

1:22:051:22:07

about her struggles with trauma

and grief in the hope

1:22:071:22:10

of helping others.

1:22:101:22:12

Now she has suffered

yet another blow -

1:22:121:22:14

three of her specially made

prosthetic legs worth 30 thousand

1:22:141:22:16

pounds have been stolen by thieves

riding mopeds who targeted her car.

1:22:161:22:21

I spoke to her a little

earlier about the theft.

1:22:211:22:26

Victoria, I'm so sorry to hear

about what happened to you.

1:22:261:22:29

Can you take us back to that day

and explain what happened.

1:22:291:22:31

Yes, sure.

1:22:311:22:33

I was having lunch with a friend

at Megan's restaurant

1:22:331:22:35

on the Kings Road in Chelsea.

1:22:351:22:37

Broad daylight, we came out

at about four in the afternoon

1:22:371:22:40

to see my car lights flashing,

the alarm going off and broken glass

1:22:401:22:43

all over the pavement.

1:22:431:22:47

Looked in the car, there

were a couple of guys there who said

1:22:471:22:50

we'd literally just missed a couple

of guys on a moped who had come

1:22:501:22:54

in, they had knives,

they'd smashed the window,

1:22:541:22:55

got in, unlocked the car

and stolen my bag from the boot

1:22:551:22:58

and my friend's bag.

1:22:581:23:02

That was all very shocking

and dramatic and what I then

1:23:021:23:06

suddenly realised to my horror

was what it had inside it was three

1:23:061:23:14

of my prosthetic legs

which are so incredibly valuable

1:23:141:23:16

to me, so I felt sick.

1:23:161:23:18

Wondered whether I should drive

after them and try to catch them

1:23:181:23:22

but of course traffic on a Sunday

is just horrendous.

1:23:221:23:24

I was left dumbfounded really.

1:23:241:23:27

Obviously they didn't know

what they were taking.

1:23:271:23:29

They were taking a bag hoping it had

some Apple Mac or something in it

1:23:291:23:33

and they would have been totally

horrified when they found

1:23:331:23:35

three legs, I'm sure.

1:23:351:23:42

The three legs, Victoria,

were especially made for you.

1:23:421:23:44

How much would they have

cost to make each?

1:23:441:23:50

So each, I mean, the ones

with the high-definition silicone

1:23:501:23:53

covers, they are made to completely

look like my other leg with freckles

1:23:531:23:56

and skin tone and hand-painted

veins and everything.

1:23:561:23:59

They are about ten grand each

and take about three months to make

1:23:591:24:02

because your leg has to be cast.

1:24:021:24:06

You know, completely bespoke

fitting, pushing out

1:24:061:24:07

areas where my bones are,

have to make sure it's comfortable.

1:24:071:24:11

And then the blade is probably

about seven or 8000,

1:24:111:24:13

so a lot of money and as I said,

very time-consuming,

1:24:131:24:16

labour intensive process.

1:24:161:24:19

They are of absolutely no value

to anybody else whatsoever

1:24:191:24:21

because even another amputee

couldn't get them on because

1:24:211:24:23

they are for my leg.

1:24:231:24:33

So it's just one of those horrendous

things where they might have just

1:24:351:24:39

dumped them somewhere but I suppose

I want to appeal to the people

1:24:391:24:42

who took them to possibly hand them

in to a hospital or a charity shop

1:24:421:24:45

or a police station or something.

1:24:451:24:47

And anybody in the Fulham or Chelsea

area, if they see random prosthetic

1:24:471:24:50

legs, that they are mine.

1:24:501:24:53

How difficult is it

for you living without them?

1:24:531:24:55

It is really difficult.

1:24:551:24:58

I have my everyday leg that

I was wearing at the time

1:24:581:25:01

but every leg enables me

to do something different.

1:25:011:25:03

My blade I wear every

day for exercise.

1:25:031:25:06

I'm a personal trainer and it's very

difficult without that

1:25:061:25:08

to demonstrate anything.

1:25:081:25:09

I can't run.

1:25:091:25:14

And my high-heeled leg

and my mid-heeled leg,

1:25:141:25:16

it sounds a bit greedy,

but for a woman, every different

1:25:161:25:18

shoe obviously has a different

height and so I can't wear any heels

1:25:181:25:22

at all at the moment,

so my Christmas period

1:25:221:25:24

is going to be trainers and dresses.

1:25:241:25:30

So a day-to-day basis,

obviously I can still walk and I'm

1:25:301:25:32

still mobile which is amazing,

but my job is really suffering.

1:25:321:25:35

I can't do any exercise,

I can't teach people at the moment

1:25:351:25:38

and I can't feel like a woman,

being able to wear my heels.

1:25:381:25:42

That for me, every leg I have had

since the accident has enabled me

1:25:421:25:45

to be Victoria from before

the accident and I found it

1:25:451:25:48

incredibly distressing this week

and it's taken me right back

1:25:481:25:50

to when the accident happened.

1:25:501:25:51

It's probably made me feel

disabled again and I think

1:25:511:25:54

in everyday life as an amputee,

when you wear your prosthetic,

1:25:541:25:57

you can pass as a normal person,

but obviously without them

1:25:571:25:59

you are very hindered

in what you can do.

1:25:591:26:04

And they are completely worthless

to the individuals who took them.

1:26:041:26:06

Have you had any information,

any leads about what may have

1:26:061:26:09

happened to your legs?

1:26:091:26:19

No, nothing.

1:26:221:26:23

When we spoke to the police,

they said there was no CCTV camera

1:26:231:26:26

and even if there was,

the mopeds might have been stolen.

1:26:261:26:29

So there's been nothing.

1:26:291:26:30

I tweeted it.

1:26:301:26:34

My tweet has been

re-tweeted 5,500 times.

1:26:341:26:35

It has been tweeted by some amazing

people and it's gone out probably

1:26:351:26:41

to millions of people but there's

been no leads, no comeback,

1:26:411:26:43

unfortunately, yet.

1:26:431:26:46

I went to the local tip,

because I thought if it had been

1:26:461:26:49

scooped up in the rubbish,

maybe they might have seen them

1:26:491:26:53

going into the big skips there.

1:26:531:26:56

I drove around Fulham and Chelsea

yesterday seeing if I could see

1:26:561:26:58

anything but there's not

been anything yet.

1:26:581:27:03

You know, maybe it will...

1:27:031:27:04

Maybe it's too late,

maybe they have disposed of them

1:27:041:27:06

somewhere already or maybe

they will show up in

1:27:061:27:08

a couple of months.

1:27:081:27:09

If anybody sees anything,

then please, please,

1:27:091:27:11

please contact me via my website

which is VictoriaMilligan.co.uk

1:27:111:27:15

or the police or hospital

or anything would be amazing.

1:27:151:27:21

Well, you can only try

and every appeal is worth it.

1:27:211:27:24

You say it took you

back to the accident.

1:27:241:27:32

You have, in the past, spoken a lot

about the trauma and grief

1:27:321:27:35

of dealing with what had happened,

losing your husband and daughter.

1:27:351:27:37

How have you been coping since?

1:27:371:27:39

You know, it's a marathon,

not a sprint, as I say to everybody.

1:27:391:27:42

The initial aftermath

was obviously totally horrendous.

1:27:421:27:45

Getting used to a new way of living,

without a third of my family.

1:27:451:27:48

So there were six of us and suddenly

two of us were gone.

1:27:481:27:51

The first year was taken up

with making sure my son's leg

1:27:511:27:54

was saved, because he was very

injured as well.

1:27:541:27:56

Fortunately it was.

1:27:561:27:58

He had to wear a massive metal

frame for six months

1:27:581:28:01

and he was only four at the time.

1:28:011:28:06

Obviously for myself,

learning to walk again and run

1:28:061:28:08

and coping with everyday life

as a widow and a sole parent

1:28:081:28:11

and a bereaved parent.

1:28:111:28:17

You know, none of that is easy but I

have incredible friends and family

1:28:171:28:20

and an amazing support network.

1:28:201:28:21

I'm very lucky in that aspect.

1:28:211:28:28

But anyone out there who is a widow

and a bereaved parent and sole

1:28:281:28:31

parent knows there is a huge amount

of admin, all the decisions

1:28:311:28:34

are down to you and I find

that very difficult.

1:28:341:28:39

There is no one to chat through

ideas with and I really miss that.

1:28:391:28:42

Having that somebody to bounce

different ideas off.

1:28:421:28:45

But we are a very close team,

me and the children.

1:28:451:28:47

We plan lots of things together.

1:28:471:28:50

We talk a lot about what we're

going to do for things

1:28:501:28:54

like Christmas and Nico's birthday

and Emily's birthday,

1:28:541:28:56

the anniversary of the accident.

1:28:561:28:59

There are lots of difficult days

we have throughout the year and it's

1:28:591:29:02

very important to be

together as a family.

1:29:021:29:12

We are slowly but surely moving

forward with our lives without

1:29:121:29:15

two special people in our lives.

1:29:151:29:16

But they will always be a part of us

and there are new chapters.

1:29:161:29:20

We all have to start new chapters

in our lives and I feel we're

1:29:201:29:23

all in quite a good place right now.

1:29:231:29:25

We've just moved into a new home

so we feel like we're getting there.

1:29:251:29:32

It's so good to hear,

especially reading

1:29:321:29:34

about your story, hearing

about your story, it's such a tragic

1:29:341:29:36

thing to have happened and then

to have your prosthetic legs

1:29:361:29:39

stolen on top of that,

it's remarkable the way are coping.

1:29:391:29:43

The way you are talking

about your life now

1:29:431:29:45

and you are of course a personal

trainer, which is great.

1:29:451:29:48

Yes, and it's good.

1:29:481:29:49

It helps me keep strong.

1:29:491:29:50

I'm very much about strong

body, strong mind.

1:29:501:29:52

It's very much helped me overcome

grief, or deal with, not overcome,

1:29:521:29:55

because I will always have some

form of grief.

1:29:551:30:01

But it really helps me,

that release through exercise.

1:30:011:30:03

All that tension built up with grief

and anxiety and fear of the future.

1:30:031:30:06

It's been a huge benefit to me

and the children, actually.

1:30:061:30:11

We've done quite a few 5Ks together,

which has been great.

1:30:111:30:15

And para triathlons as well

and the kids have been running

1:30:151:30:17

with me which has been really

positive, a positive step.

1:30:171:30:23

Victoria, thank you so much

for talking to us this

1:30:231:30:25

morning and we really hope

you get your legs back.

1:30:251:30:28

Thank you so much.

1:30:281:30:30

Still to come...

1:30:381:30:46

Actor and model Kadian Noble has

accused the Hollywood

1:30:461:30:48

mogul Harvey Weinstein

of grooming her in London before

1:30:481:30:50

assaulting her in Cannes.

1:30:501:30:52

We'll show you her first

broadcast interview.

1:30:521:30:53

New health plans could see patients

denied medicines and pills.

1:30:531:30:55

We'll speak to a health charity

about what this means.

1:30:551:30:58

Time for the latest

news - here's Annita.

1:30:581:31:04

The headlines on BBC News...

1:31:041:31:07

A former Scotland Yard detective has

told BBC News he was "shocked"

1:31:071:31:10

by the amount of pornography

on a Parliamentary computer

1:31:101:31:12

seized from the office

of the First Secretary

1:31:121:31:14

of State, Damian Green.

1:31:141:31:15

Neil Lewis, a computer forensics

specialist, examined the device

1:31:151:31:20

during an inquiry into

Government leaks in 2008.

1:31:201:31:22

Mr Lewis, who's now retired,

said he has "no doubt whatsoever"

1:31:221:31:24

that the images containing legal

pornographic material had been

1:31:241:31:26

accessed by Mr Green.

1:31:261:31:30

Mr Green has vehemently denied

looking at pornography at work.

1:31:301:31:39

Royal Bank of Scotland has announced

it's to close 259 branches,

1:31:391:31:42

resulting in 680 job losses.

1:31:421:31:43

The latest round of closures

at the state-owned bank follows

1:31:431:31:46

180 announced in March.

1:31:461:31:47

The bank says it wants to reduce

costs and encourage customers to use

1:31:471:31:50

online and mobile services.

1:31:501:31:56

MPs scrutinising the Government's

Brexit plans says border controls

1:31:561:31:58

between Northern Ireland

and the Irish Republic

1:31:581:32:00

are inevitable if the UK

leaves the EU single

1:32:001:32:02

market and customs union.

1:32:021:32:03

The Commons Brexit Committee says

ministers have failed to explain how

1:32:031:32:06

the issue can be resolved,

and that the proposals

1:32:061:32:10

they've come up with,

such as the use of technology,

1:32:101:32:12

are "untested" and "speculative".

1:32:121:32:14

Four Conservatives and one

Democratic Unionist MP refused

1:32:141:32:17

to endorse the report.

1:32:171:32:23

A hospital failed to spot cases

of lung cancer because it did not

1:32:231:32:27

check patients' chest X-rays

properly, the Care Quality

1:32:271:32:28

Commission has found.

1:32:281:32:34

The health watchdog says three

patients at Queen Alexandra Hospital

1:32:341:32:36

in Portsmouth suffered "significant

harm".

1:32:361:32:38

Junior doctors complained they had

been asked to carry out

1:32:381:32:40

specialist radiology work

without the appropriate training.

1:32:401:32:42

The CQC has now launched

a review of NHS radiology

1:32:421:32:44

services in England.

1:32:441:32:50

Survivors and relatives of those

who died in the Grenfell Tower fire

1:32:501:32:53

are warning that the public inquiry

risks becoming a whitewash,

1:32:531:32:57

unless a diverse panel is appointed

to oversee the proceedings.

1:32:571:33:01

They are petitioning

Theresa May to intervene,

1:33:011:33:03

and they say the chairman,

Sir Martin Moore-Bick,

1:33:031:33:05

should sit with a range of people

who understand the issues facing

1:33:051:33:08

those affected by the disaster.

1:33:081:33:09

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

are to carry out their first joint

1:33:091:33:13

official visit later.

1:33:131:33:15

The couple, who announced

their engagement on Monday,

1:33:151:33:25

will meet members of the public

at a number of charities

1:33:261:33:28

in Nottingham.

1:33:281:33:30

They'll be married at

Windsor Castle in May.

1:33:301:33:31

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

1:33:311:33:35

Let's get the sport. It is the day

of destiny for the 32 teams

1:33:351:33:39

competing at the World Cup next

summer. England have chosen their

1:33:391:33:43

base near St Petersburg and will

find out who they face in the draw

1:33:431:33:46

to be held at the Kremlin at 3pm

this afternoon.

1:33:461:33:50

Sam Burgess will captain England in

tomorrow's Rugby league World Cup

1:33:501:33:54

final, replacing Sean O'Loughlin,

who is injured. Burgess will move

1:33:541:33:57

into the loose forward fall Ben

Curry promoted to the starting

1:33:571:34:01

line-up in the second row.

Craig Overton has been added to the

1:34:011:34:04

England

1:34:041:34:14

squad for the second Ashes Test,

joining the 11 players that lost the

1:34:311:34:34

opening match.

The team won't be confirmed until

1:34:341:34:36

the toss, Moeen Ali bowled in the

nets today despite his injured

1:34:361:34:38

finger. And Mayor of London Sadiq

Khan says he is taking control of

1:34:381:34:41

the London stadium, West Ham's home

ground, to minimise losses to the

1:34:411:34:43

taxpayer as new council admits it

has lost £40 million during its time

1:34:431:34:49

as cover this. Those are the

headlines, back to you, Tina. --

1:34:491:34:51

during its

1:34:511:34:53

Since October, more than 100

women have come forward

1:34:551:34:57

to accuse Hollywood producer,

Harvey Weinstein of bullying,

1:34:571:34:59

harassment, intimidation and rape

over the last 40 years.

1:34:591:35:01

He denies all criminal charges.

1:35:011:35:02

But now, Weinstein is being accused

of sex trafficking in a lawsuit

1:35:021:35:05

by a British woman who alleges

he groomed her in London before

1:35:051:35:08

sexually assaulting her in Cannes.

1:35:081:35:09

Kadian Noble, who has

waived her right to anonymity,

1:35:091:35:11

has been speaking to me

for her first British TV interview.

1:35:111:35:14

Harvey Weinstein denies all

allegations of nonconsensual sex

1:35:141:35:16

Kadian, as an aspiring

actress and model, tell me

1:35:181:35:20

about the time you first met

Harvey Weinstein, what happened?

1:35:201:35:22

I first met Harvey Weinstein

at the BAFTAs after party

1:35:221:35:25

at the Rosewood Hotel,

in February 2014.

1:35:251:35:27

Whilst I was there he approached me.

1:35:271:35:30

He seemed very interested,

which was quite overwhelming for me.

1:35:301:35:37

I'm just there and this

is Harvey Weinstein,

1:35:371:35:39

who's approached me and he wants

to learn more about me.

1:35:391:35:42

At the time...

1:35:421:35:45

I'd seen Oprah Winfrey

enter the room with him,

1:35:451:35:51

so, for me, that lady is a massive

inspiration, so that was quite

1:35:511:35:54

a pleasant experience.

1:35:541:35:56

You've actually done some modelling.

1:35:561:36:00

Some of our viewers might recognise

you from Britain's Next Top Model,

1:36:001:36:03

but you wanted to make it

as an actor, so what happened next,

1:36:031:36:06

after that meeting?

1:36:061:36:12

So after meeting him and him taking

quite an interest in me,

1:36:121:36:22

and insisting then and there that

I should give my details

1:36:231:36:26

over to his assistant,

Charlotte, which I did.

1:36:261:36:28

So after that initial meeting,

I then visited his London office,

1:36:281:36:30

his office in London.

1:36:301:36:31

Did he ask you to do that?

1:36:311:36:34

Yes, and I spoke with another

assistant of his, yes.

1:36:341:36:37

Did anything come from that?

1:36:371:36:48

So, once I visited his London

office, I was instructed by his

1:36:531:36:55

assistant who passed my showreel

over, and she asked me

1:36:551:36:58

quite a few questions,

and she also asked me to put a brief

1:36:581:37:01

e-mail together, which she would

pass on to Harvey with my showreel.

1:37:011:37:04

Did he get in touch?

1:37:041:37:05

Not then and there.

1:37:051:37:11

So, at a later stage, May 2014,

whilst I was at the Cannes Film

1:37:111:37:15

Festival, at the Majestic Hotel,

Harvey approached me in the lobby

1:37:151:37:18

and I asked him immediately had

he received my showreel.

1:37:181:37:21

So that was the next

time you saw him?

1:37:211:37:23

Yes.

1:37:231:37:24

After that initial meeting

in London, and after you dropping

1:37:241:37:26

off your showreel?

1:37:261:37:27

At his office?

1:37:271:37:28

Exactly.

1:37:281:37:32

And I asked him...

1:37:321:37:37

He said he had not had chance yet

to look at my showreel but he said

1:37:371:37:40

if I had it with me,

which I had on my iPad,

1:37:401:37:43

he'd be happy to have a look at it

if I come up to his room with him,

1:37:431:37:48

if I was to walk a few paces behind

him, which I didn't think much of.

1:37:481:37:52

So I walked a few paces behind him

and we got into the lift together

1:37:521:37:55

and then we went up to his room.

1:37:551:37:57

At that point, when you

went up to the room,

1:37:571:38:00

when you were in the lift,

what did you think

1:38:001:38:02

was going to happen?

1:38:021:38:03

I had a lot of faith in this man.

1:38:031:38:08

For me, I was with Harvey Weinstein,

who said he had something

1:38:081:38:11

good in mind for me,

and it would be good for my career,

1:38:111:38:14

I had all trust in him.

1:38:141:38:18

All that was going through my mind

is, this man is going to make

1:38:181:38:21

my dreams a reality.

1:38:211:38:23

You didn't think it was odd that

he'd asked you to come

1:38:231:38:26

up to his hotel room?

1:38:261:38:28

No, I honestly did not

think anything into it,

1:38:281:38:33

other than what he asked me,

to look at my showreel.

1:38:331:38:38

What happened when you got

to the hotel room?

1:38:381:38:41

Once I got to his hotel room,

he asked me to have a seat

1:38:411:38:51

on the sofa and he was on his phone

for a while, and then he asked me

1:38:541:39:00

to have a conversation,

he was on his mobile,

1:39:001:39:02

he asked me to speak to someone

on the phone who said to me I should

1:39:021:39:06

be a good girl for Harvey,

Harvey has good things

1:39:061:39:08

in mind for you.

1:39:081:39:10

It's rather embarrassing now,

looking back, because it's several

1:39:101:39:12

years later and now I can see things

clearer, but at the time

1:39:121:39:15

I was just really excited,

and all I could see was this man

1:39:151:39:19

making my dreams a reality.

1:39:191:39:20

What did he do?

1:39:201:39:24

So after the phone call,

he sat with me on the sofa and he...

1:39:241:39:30

I had my iPad out with my showreel,

but he didn't seem

1:39:301:39:34

interested in my showreel.

1:39:341:39:38

Instead, he seemed rather more

interested in stroking me.

1:39:381:39:44

But I thought maybe I was

overthinking the situation, maybe

1:39:441:39:47

I was being a bit too uptight.

1:39:471:39:50

He kept repeating that he thought

I reminded him of Naomi,

1:39:501:39:53

which gave me more trust in him,

because when I met him

1:39:531:39:56

originally at...

1:39:561:39:58

Naomi?

1:39:581:39:59

Naomi Campbell.

1:39:591:40:00

When I met him originally

at the BAFTAs, he was also

1:40:001:40:03

with Naomi Campbell,

who I spoke with.

1:40:031:40:05

So, again, that made me have

more confidence in him.

1:40:051:40:10

So I was feeling very

good, however...

1:40:101:40:14

He...

1:40:141:40:15

I felt he was being rather,

he was touching me in a way

1:40:151:40:19

that I thought was not appropriate.

1:40:191:40:27

And he asked me to do

a walk for him.

1:40:271:40:30

He said it will be good for you,

we have your information,

1:40:301:40:32

we have everything we need.

1:40:321:40:34

We're going to take care

of everything, you know, just relax.

1:40:341:40:40

I was uncomfortable,

but again, I was thinking,

1:40:401:40:43

am I overthinking, am I just...

1:40:431:40:45

Is he just being friendly?

1:40:451:40:46

How serious did that inappropriate

behaviour become in that room?

1:40:461:40:51

OK, so, he then asked me

to get up off the sofa,

1:40:511:40:55

when he asked me to do

a walk for him.

1:40:551:41:01

And then it got to the point

where he was rubbing my shoulders,

1:41:011:41:07

and he took hold of my arm

and pretty much forced me to walk

1:41:071:41:10

with him to the bathroom,

and stood me in front of the mirror,

1:41:101:41:13

where he stood behind me.

1:41:131:41:16

I asked him, "What are you doing,

what are you doing?"

1:41:161:41:18

He insisted I should relax and that

it's going to be good for me

1:41:181:41:23

and everything's going to be

taken care of.

1:41:231:41:29

At this point, I had met two

of his assistants, he then referred

1:41:291:41:32

to another assistant,

who was a male, who also would sort

1:41:321:41:35

things out in London.

1:41:351:41:36

I was very uncomfortable, I kept

repeating, "What are you doing?"

1:41:361:41:39

He said to me, "I need to know that

you really like me."

1:41:391:41:42

And I said, "What do you mean?"

1:41:421:41:44

He said, "I need to know that

you really like me."

1:41:441:41:46

What was he doing?

1:41:461:41:50

He stood me in front of the mirror,

and he was inappropriately

1:41:501:41:55

stroking me, he pulled my...

1:41:551:41:59

My top down, my dress, exposing me.

1:41:591:42:06

And raising his voice,

telling me I need to relax

1:42:061:42:08

because everything's going to be

taken care of.

1:42:081:42:13

And at this point,

I don't know exactly

1:42:131:42:17

what happened, and I'm really,

really ashamed, because...

1:42:171:42:21

I don't know why I didn't feel that

I had the confidence to run away,

1:42:211:42:31

but I kept saying "Stop,"

and he would take a firm

1:42:311:42:36

grip of me and told me

to relax and to trust him,

1:42:361:42:45

and I think a part of me

massively shut down,

1:42:451:42:49

and I feel a massive guilt

and a sense of, was it that

1:42:491:42:53

I wanted my career so much

and I believe in this man that

1:42:531:42:56

I wasn't able to run

out of that situation?

1:42:561:43:02

But he held me very firm,

forcefully, exposed me,

1:43:021:43:07

touched me inappropriately,

exposed himself to me,

1:43:071:43:16

forced my hand in his private areas

whilst entertaining himself

1:43:161:43:18

and putting my hands there as well.

1:43:181:43:21

Kadian, what happened afterwards?

1:43:211:43:23

What did you do?

1:43:231:43:29

After he assaulted me

in the bathroom...

1:43:291:43:34

So he just, it was

like nothing happened.

1:43:341:43:43

He then said to me, "We have

all your information,

1:43:431:43:48

my people are going to take care

of everything and we will be

1:43:481:43:53

in touch with you," and he said

to me, if I would head downstairs

1:43:531:43:57

with him, and again walk

a few paces behind once

1:43:571:44:00

we leave the lift together.

1:44:001:44:08

And I didn't hear anything

from his people, so then I got

1:44:081:44:13

in touch with his assistant

in his London office

1:44:131:44:19

and she reassured me that she's

waiting for his instructions

1:44:191:44:21

to move ahead.

1:44:211:44:29

Then I saw him at the BAFTAs 2015,

where then he said to me, "Listen,

1:44:291:44:34

we're dealing with everything,"

and also his assistant

1:44:341:44:39

introduced me as a friend

of Harvey's, so, again,

1:44:391:44:43

they were giving me

reassurance to...

1:44:431:44:49

Although I felt massively damaged,

because in the time of that

1:44:491:44:54

happening to me, I had a massive

breakdown, so it was literally

1:44:541:44:59

a year later before I saw him again,

but I was in touch with his

1:44:591:45:07

assistant, who...

1:45:071:45:10

There was nothing moving forward.

1:45:101:45:11

How did what happened that day

in Harvey Weinstein's hotel room,

1:45:111:45:14

impact your life?

1:45:141:45:17

It impacted my life massively,

in the sense that it

1:45:171:45:23

made me doubt what I'm

about and what I'm

1:45:231:45:28

giving off, and did I do something

wrong, why he treated me

1:45:281:45:31

the way in which he did?

1:45:311:45:41

Because this is a man that

I massively look up to,

1:45:441:45:47

that I see as the God of Hollywood,

who can make so many dreams

1:45:471:45:50

reality, he has the gift.

1:45:501:45:51

The work he's created,

it's magical, and he approached

1:45:511:45:53

me, it was amazing.

1:45:531:45:57

It knocked me down so much,

where it was depression,

1:45:571:46:02

feeling suicidal, getting to that

point, it really affected me.

1:46:021:46:04

Did you tell anyone

what had happened?

1:46:041:46:08

I told a friend, but at the same

time I didn't feel it was OK to talk

1:46:081:46:12

about what had happened,

because I still had hopes

1:46:121:46:19

that my dreams could become

a reality and I thought it wasn't

1:46:191:46:23

appropriate to speak of what he had

done to me and who would believe me,

1:46:231:46:27

that this respected man had been

inappropriate with me?

1:46:271:46:33

Did you believe that

work would follow?

1:46:331:46:36

I hoped, I hoped it would, I hoped.

1:46:361:46:41

I really hoped it would,

and the more I hung on to the hope,

1:46:411:46:51

the more I was destroyed

when I was seeing that clearly

1:46:511:46:57

they were lying to me

and stringing me along.

1:46:571:46:59

Why did you decide to give

up your anonymity and speak out now?

1:46:591:47:02

Because my situation had dragged

on for nearly three years.

1:47:021:47:05

I'd been in touch

with his assistants.

1:47:051:47:10

And me confronting Harvey

and his assistant, and while Harvey

1:47:101:47:17

was sitting there and saying to me,

and his assistant is saying to me,

1:47:171:47:24

"I'm no longer working for Harvey",

and Harvey's saying to me,

1:47:241:47:27

right, that's enough, that's enough,

because he was afraid

1:47:271:47:29

of what I might say,

and then me speaking

1:47:291:47:31

to another assistant of his,

telling her exactly what he had

1:47:311:47:34

done to me.

1:47:341:47:37

And her advising me that I should

put it in a letter, because Harvey

1:47:371:47:42

is a good man and maybe he did not

realise the impact which he had had

1:47:421:47:49

on my life, was when I realised that

this man had so much walls built

1:47:491:47:52

up around him and I

completely shut down.

1:47:521:47:54

I changed my number

and I thought I had no chance.

1:47:541:47:58

So when this came to light,

for me, I could have

1:47:581:48:03

never imagined this day,

this man, this powerful man

1:48:031:48:11

in his industry really

to be brought to justice.

1:48:111:48:14

So you felt empowered, because other

women were speaking out?

1:48:141:48:16

Absolutely.

1:48:161:48:20

Immediately I was afraid,

I was afraid immediately.

1:48:201:48:26

Tell us more about why you're

using a sex trafficking law to try

1:48:261:48:30

and sue Harvey Weinstein

for coercion and fraud,

1:48:301:48:33

to get you to engage

in a commercial sexual act?

1:48:331:48:37

So my lawyer, Jeff Herman,

it was his idea.

1:48:371:48:43

He's taking a different approach,

because Harvey is obviously,

1:48:431:48:48

he's left this country,

gone to another country and made

1:48:481:48:55

false promises to get me

in a vulnerable situation,

1:48:551:48:57

to take advantage.

1:48:571:48:59

And this lawyer

is based in New York?

1:48:591:49:02

Yes.

1:49:021:49:04

And this action is being taken

in relation to something that

1:49:041:49:06

happened in Cannes, in France?

1:49:061:49:07

Yes, yes, that's correct.

1:49:071:49:09

What's the reaction been

to you going public?

1:49:091:49:15

I don't really know,

but all I hope for...

1:49:151:49:22

I have a 12-year-old daughter,

and I hope that whatever little

1:49:221:49:27

that I can contribute,

if I can give some type of justice

1:49:271:49:31

to prevent something like this

happening to my daughter at a later

1:49:311:49:40

point, or any other parents,

their young child, then I'll

1:49:401:49:42

be grateful for that.

1:49:421:49:43

What would you say to people

who might be watching,

1:49:431:49:46

who may find it difficult

to understand why you tried to

1:49:461:49:48

pursue work after what had happened?

1:49:481:49:52

I would say, believe in yourself.

1:49:521:49:59

Never let go of what you believe in,

because if you let go

1:49:591:50:04

of what you believe in,

it means you fall for anything,

1:50:041:50:09

and I always believed in myself,

although at times I had doubts,

1:50:091:50:12

and I feel us women coming together

and standing as one,

1:50:121:50:18

if we can make a difference,

and make an example of this

1:50:181:50:22

man, who is absolutely

destroying people's

1:50:221:50:28

lives through his power in this

industry and absolutely

1:50:281:50:31

taking advantage...

1:50:311:50:33

If we can stand together

and put a stop to it,

1:50:331:50:38

then that is absolutely worth it.

1:50:381:50:42

Kadian, thank you

for speaking to us.

1:50:421:50:44

I know this is your first interview

in this country, thank you.

1:50:441:50:47

Thank you.

1:50:471:50:50

Harvey Weinstein's

spokesperson says, "Mr

1:50:551:50:56

Weinstein denies allegations

of non-consensual sex.

1:50:561:50:59

Mr Weinstein has further confirmed

that there were never any acts

1:50:591:51:02

of retaliation against any women

for refusing his advances."

1:51:021:51:05

The board of the Weinstein Company

has previously said, "These

1:51:051:51:08

allegations come as an utter

surprise to the Board.

1:51:081:51:10

Any suggestion that the Board had

knowledge of this conduct is false."

1:51:101:51:16

An e-mail has come in from of you

are saying I'm watching the young

1:51:201:51:22

lady took about Harvey Weinstein's

behaviour. Her testimony brings

1:51:221:51:28

tears to my eyes. As the father of a

daughter, makes me so angry. Thank

1:51:281:51:32

you for all of your messages today.

1:51:321:51:36

Patients may no longer be able

to get everyday medicines such

1:51:361:51:39

as pain killers and cough remedies

under prescription, under

1:51:391:51:41

new rationing plans by NHS England.

1:51:411:51:42

GPs will be told to stop routinely

funding treatments for almost 40

1:51:421:51:45

conditions when they can be bought

cheaply over the counter instead.

1:51:451:51:51

I'm joined by Andrew Mccracken

from National Voices,

1:51:511:51:53

a coalition of health

and social care charities.

1:51:531:52:00

Thank you for coming onto the

programme. What is your response to

1:52:001:52:03

this?

The NHS didn't get as much

money have asked for a lovely's

1:52:031:52:08

budget so this week it is making

difficult decisions about how to

1:52:081:52:12

deal with it. -- in last week's

budget. The problem with this is for

1:52:121:52:17

many of us, we're happy to go and

buy RM paracetamol, we don't need a

1:52:171:52:22

prescription for that, but a lot of

people get free prescriptions. 90%

1:52:221:52:25

of prescriptions are dispensed free

of charge, those on jobseeker's

1:52:251:52:31

allowance, those with health

conditions, children, a whole group

1:52:311:52:35

of people. So they will be moving to

something they get free of charge to

1:52:351:52:40

something they have to pay for.

Paracetamol and idea prevent our

1:52:401:52:46

cheap, 20p or something. But

something like head lice treatment,

1:52:461:52:49

you could be looking at £30 to deal

with that problem. If you are on a

1:52:491:52:53

financial knife edge, it could make

a big difference.

The NHS does need

1:52:531:52:57

to save money. Isn't it an obvious

place where you can make some

1:52:571:53:00

savings, if it... In the case of

painkillers, paracetamol,

1:53:001:53:06

indigestion treatment, treatment for

Ava Rukh?

The NHS does need to save

1:53:061:53:11

money but not by targeting those who

are most in need of support or who

1:53:111:53:15

are in the biggest financial

difficulty. The people who will be

1:53:151:53:18

affected by this, the people that

currently get prescriptions for

1:53:181:53:21

these things, are people who really

cannot afford it, who are getting

1:53:211:53:25

free prescriptions. Wiles would wait

two weeks to go the G8 GP2 get a

1:53:251:53:30

prescription for haemorrhoid cream?

Half paracetamol, such a big cost

1:53:301:53:38

when it comes to getting a

prescription and buying

1:53:381:53:41

over-the-counter. To give you an

example reported, paracetamol

1:53:411:53:45

costing 50p in a supermarket and up

to £34 via prescription, isn't that

1:53:451:53:50

a saving that we need, we obviously

need to be making?

If that example

1:53:501:53:56

Lisbie true, I would ask a lot of

questions of the NHS's procurement.

1:53:561:54:01

Why did Cikos and £34 to buy

something I can buy for 24p.

Talk to

1:54:011:54:10

me about products as covers? We have

mentioned paracetamol and

1:54:101:54:14

indigestion.

It will also cover

products like head lice cream,

1:54:141:54:23

treatments for scabies and thrush,

that something is warts and verucas.

1:54:231:54:32

The average cream for thrush, that

is normally £5. If people can't

1:54:321:54:40

afford it, they would have to live

with the discomfort of that

1:54:401:54:43

condition.

It is about freeing up

appointments as well. If people go

1:54:431:54:47

to see their GP just to get a

prescription, it is saving time and

1:54:471:54:51

allowing people who are really in

need of seeing their GP for a more

1:54:511:54:55

serious condition to get in there

sooner?

GPs are under stretched. For

1:54:551:55:00

a long time the charities I work

with have been arguing for more

1:55:001:55:03

money to go into primary care. I

agree they are under stretch --

1:55:031:55:08

overstretched. But some of the

people watching the show now who get

1:55:081:55:12

free prescriptions, who will find

they have to pay extra money because

1:55:121:55:15

of these changes and it will only

affect those most in need or who are

1:55:151:55:20

in the weakest financial position,

it doesn't feel fair to me.

Thank

1:55:201:55:23

you very much for coming onto the

programme to talk about it.

1:55:231:55:26

Prince Harry and his fiancee

Meghan Markle are to make

1:55:261:55:29

their first official visit together

since announcing their engagement.

1:55:291:55:31

The Royal couple, who are

due to marry in May,

1:55:311:55:33

have travelled to Nottingham,

where they are due to

1:55:331:55:36

visit a charity fair

to mark World Aid's Day.

1:55:361:55:42

Sarah Campbell is there.

1:55:421:55:47

Good morning. Despite the freezing

temperatures, it is kind of getting

1:55:471:55:52

towards fever pitch in Nottingham.

This is the old part of Nottingham,

1:55:521:55:55

where the camera is pointing now,

that is where Harry and Meghan will

1:55:551:56:01

depart their car and then wandered

down the street, crisscrossing and

1:56:011:56:05

meeting some of these people who

have come out, braved the

1:56:051:56:08

temperatures this morning and then

head into the Nottingham

1:56:081:56:12

contemporary down there,

highlighting the issue of AIDS

1:56:121:56:16

awareness, today being World Aid's

Day. Harry following in the

1:56:161:56:19

footsteps of his mother, who has

been a long time campaigner on the

1:56:191:56:25

issue of Aids. Significant they have

chosen to highlight this charity

1:56:251:56:28

today. Let me speak to some of the

people who have turned out. Kelly

1:56:281:56:32

from Texas and Becky a local from

Nottingham. It is fair to say

1:56:321:56:36

America site yet -- slightly excited

you will have a member of the Royal

1:56:361:56:42

family?

Very excited.

Have you been

having messages from people at home?

1:56:421:56:48

Definitely, covered in the media in

the States as well. Everyone was

1:56:481:56:52

excited when I said Harry is coming

to Nottingham. They wanted pictures

1:56:521:56:55

and for me to share my stories.

A

lot of American news networks here.

1:56:551:57:01

As an American yourself living in

Britain, what will Meghan have to

1:57:011:57:04

get used to, how will life be

different?

May just a slower pace

1:57:041:57:09

here in Nottingham, I'm not sure

about London, and the weather! Much

1:57:091:57:13

different California.

You said she

will have do learn to drive on the

1:57:131:57:17

right side of the road.

Exactly, the

opposite side of the road!

CHUCKLES

1:57:171:57:22

There are a lot of people here. Are

you pleased Prince Harry has chosen

1:57:221:57:27

this to be the place to introduce to

Megan?

Fantastic, looking forward to

1:57:271:57:33

her coming. We are happy she is

coming. It will be good for her to

1:57:331:57:39

come and meet us.

You saw the

interview on Monday. Had you heard

1:57:391:57:46

of Meghan Markle before? What did

you make of her?

I wasn't sure about

1:57:461:57:50

her before but I think in the

interview I really warmed to her and

1:57:501:57:55

I think she's really good for him.

Nice to see Harry has got somebody,

1:57:551:57:58

really loved up.

Brilliant, that's

great, thank you. You have front and

1:57:581:58:05

centre positions. You will be hoping

to get a handshake. Some very

1:58:051:58:08

excited people here and they haven't

got long to wait!

1:58:081:58:12

Know, lots of people will be

watching, I'm sure. Sarah Campbell,

1:58:121:58:15

thank you very much indeed.

1:58:151:58:16

BBC Newsroom live is coming up next.

1:58:161:58:18

Thank you for your company today.

1:58:181:58:19

Have a good day.

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And a great weekend. Bye-bye from

me.

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