04/12/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

Welcome to the programme.

Our top story today -

Britain and the European Union

appear close to reaching a deal that

will clear the way for the second

phase of Brexit talks.

We'll look at whether it's possible

to avoid a hard border

between N Ireland and Ireland

and why it's so important.

Also on the programme -

life with obsessive

compulsive disorder.

Domestic demand so household

spending and business investment.

I'm nearly 24 so I say nearly 24

because I am 23, but I don't like

odd numbers because they bring me

bad luck so I have bipolar as well,

and borderline personality disorder.

It is a long list of what I have

been diagnosed with. We will stick,

it is three actually because I have

OCD.

OCD.

In about 15 minutes time we'll bring

you a revealing documentary

which looks at life for people

living with mental

health conditions.

And - it's feared the Croydon cat

killer could be responsible for up

to 400 cat deaths since 2015.

We'll look at what's being done

to find the culprit.

Hello.

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We will hear from the Australian MP

who proposed to PSNI partner during

a debate on same-sex marriage.

Britain and the European Union

appear close to reaching a deal that

will clear the way for the second

phase of Brexit talks.

EU sources said the two sides

were "nearing solutions",

ahead of Theresa May's meeting

with the European Commission

President, Jean-Claude Juncker,

in Brussels this afternoon.

Diplomats held negotiations

through the night on the last

remaining sticking point -

the Irish border.

Our Europe correspondent,

Adam Fleming reports.

Three trips in three months.

Now, the Prime Minister is making

a fourth visit to Brussels to get

the Brexit talks going.

She will meet EU Commission

President, Jean-Claude Junker,

and others, to apply the finishing

political touches to a package

of commitments that has been

sweated over by officials.

It sounds like there has been

progress in talks about the rights

of EU citizens who will stay

in the UK after Brexit,

and British people living abroad.

Discussions about how much money

is owed by the UK appear to have

been unblocked by a more detailed

offer from Britain.

But the big sticking point

is what to do about the border

between Northern Ireland

and the Republic of Ireland.

The Irish Government

does not want to wait

for a possible trade deal.

They want certainty

on what is going to happen, now.

Downing Street has called today

an important staging post on the way

to a European summit in ten days'

time, because that is when EU

leaders will decide whether there

has been enough talk

about the divorce to start

working out the future.

Adam Fleming, BBC News, Brussels.

So let's get the detail on what

might and might not be said -

our political guru Norman Smith

is at Westminster for us.

Progress is being made. Slowly.

Britain is almost through to the

next round.

Almost. We seem to have

an agreement on the amount of cash

we have to pay out, thought to be in

the region of 40-50 billion euros so

a lot more than Brexiteers were

saying at the start. We seem to have

kind of grasped our way to some sort

of arrangement on the future of EU

citizen, Ireland remains the big

stumbling block and here at

Westminster too there are signs that

some Brexit supporting Tory MPs are

beginning to cut up rough, wanting

clear assurances from Mrs May when

believe in March 2019 we leave. We

are not half in, half out, still

talking rules from the European

Court of Justice, still taking

decisions by the European Council,

still having freedom of movement.

They want a clean break, when

believe we leave. But significantly

they are not threatening to topple

or undermind Mrs May, because they

know were they to do so a number of

things could happen, could get

another Tory leader who might be

more queasy about Brexit, you would

end up with an election, a Jeremy

Corbyn Government or you create a

load of uncertainty which delays

Brexit, although we have Brexit

supporting Tory MPs saying you have

to be tougher, cometh the hour they

are not going to topple Mrs May.

On

the question of the Irish border,

everybody wants the status quo, an

invisible open board e what is the

steer on what Britain has come up

with in terms of a solution?

Well,

we don't know, because we are not

going to be given a solution, now is

not about an answer to the border

issue, what it is about with warm

words, it is a about language,

trying to reassure Dublin and also,

to reassure people in Northern

Ireland, but it is a bit of a

puzzle, it is like the Brexit

version of a Rubik cube, David Davis

has to ensure that the border

dreedgetly exist, that things are as

seamless as possible between north

and southern Ireland, while at the

same time not giving any indication

at all that somehow Northern Ireland

is being pulled away from the rest

of the UK, so it is an intellectual

conundrum. It is about coming

forward with words that both sides

can say that looks kind of enough,

we will move on to the Nketiah stage

of talks.

Thank you Norman.

More to come through the morning of

course.

Ben is in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of the rest

of the days news.

700,000 children and pensioners

in the UK have fallen into relative

poverty over the past four years,

according to a new report.

The Joseph Rowntree Foundation says

it's the first sustained rise

affecting these age groups

for 20 years.

The left-leaning thinktank

warns decades of progress

are in danger of unravelling,

and has called on the

government to take action.

Our social affaris correspondent,

Michael Buchanan has more.

For Flo Singleton, this drop-in

centre has many benefits.

She can use its computers

to keep up with her family.

She can meet friends.

And, by being here, the 84-year-old

does not have to spend money

heating her own home.

If you go out, you don't have

to have your heating on, do you?

Trouble is, once it's dark,

in the evenings now, and cold,

you need to put the heating

on, don't you?

The Joseph Rowntree Foundation says,

since 2013, an extra 300,000

pensioners and an additional 400,000

children are now living in poverty.

In total, 14 million people

in the UK are in poverty.

What our report is now

showing is that we're

at a significant turning point.

14 million people in the UK are in

poverty.

What our report is showing

we are at a significant turning

point. Two years in the increases is

a real red flag to Government, that

they really have to do something

now.

Researches say the Government

should end the freeze on benefit,

describing it as the biggest change

that would reduce poverty but

ministers say they are spending tens

of billions of pounds helping those

in need and the national minimum

wage has given low earning

households a significant pay rise.

Government funding for a flagship

British aid project to support

civilian police in Syria

has been suspended.

It's after whistle-blowers told

the BBC's Panorama programme that

some of the money was ending up

in the hands of extremists.

The Foreign Office says it's

investigating the allegations,

as Panorama's Jane Corbin explains.

South Korea and the United States

have launched large scale

joint aerial drills,

a week after North Korea said it had

tested its most advanced missile.

The annual US-South Korean drill,

called Vigilant Ace,

will run until Friday,

with six F-22 Raptor stealth

fighters to be deployed

among the more than 230

aircraft taking part.

The exercises have been

condemned as a provocation

by the isolated North.

Spoke to the BBC about the

pornography they say was found on a

computer in Damian a green's office

were wrong, and she condemns what

they did. She has said on the

Vanessa felts show all police

officers have a duty of

confidentiality to protect personal

information and that inDewars after

they leave.

She said it is my view that what

they have done is wrong, and I

condemn it. We are reviewing whether

any offences have been committed.

Facebook says it's creating

800 new jobs in the UK,

as it opens a new office in central

London.

It'll become the firm's biggest

engineering hub outside

of the United States.

An estimated

two-thousand-three-hundred people

will be employed by the social media

company in the UK by

the end of next year.

A co-operative group

is to start selling food

beyond its 'best before' date.

125 shops in East Anglia

will sell tinned goods

and dried food such as pasta,

crisps and rice for a flat

rate of ten pence.

It's part of a drive to reduce

the seven-million tonnes of food

thrown away in the UK each year.

The number of schoolchildren

with a part-time job has fallen

by a fifth in the past five years.

The findings come from a Freedom

of Information request to all local

authorities across the UK

responsible for issuing

child employment permits.

It's thought changing consumer

patterns and pressure to do well

at school are responsible

for the change.

As new driving tests come into force

to better reflect modern roads,

examiners have begun

a 48-hour strike.

The new tests will see an end

to manoeuvres such as the three

point turn and reversing

round a corner, but learners

will now have to parallel park

and follow directions

from a sat nav.

Members of the Public

and Commercial Services Union

are protesting against the changes,

as well as pay and working hours.

Sky-gazers had a treat last night -

there was a supermoon -

that means the moon appeared much

bigger and brighter than usual.

It only happens when it

reaches its closest point to Earth.

These are some of the spectacular

images from right across

the country, through the night.

It was the last opportunity to see

a supermoon this year -

but Nasa says this will be

a "supermoon trilogy"

with others to come in swift

succession on new Year's Day

and January 31st.

Boy band Rak-Su have been named

the winners of the X Factor 2017.

The Watford-based group beat

Grace Davies in the final of the ITV

singing competition -

the first male group to win the show

since it started in 2004.

During the final they thanked

viewers for voting for them.

Figures released by ITV suggested

they got 51.7% of the vote

in last night's final.

That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30.

Endures after they leave.

She said it is my view that what

they have done is wrong, and I

condemn it. We are reviewing whether

any offences have been committed.

We have an insightful documentary

coming up on mental health and

people living with severe mental

health conditions. Your message says

Kelly say I have had six months of

hell trying to get a plan in place,

I will be watch this morning. Edwin

says my friend suffers from OCD and

people tell him to just get over it.

It is sad that people don't take

mental health issues as seriously as

they should. Chantelle says people

should see and know what it is like

to talk about problem, and Rob says

it can be debilitating, an example

would be two people with different

viewpoints seeing the same thing,

one laughs wile the other get upset.

Do get in touch with us

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Here's some sport now.

I can't believe we are suggesting

that England's chances of winning

the Ashes are slipping away. It is

depressing if you are an England

supporter. It is. Looking, things go

from bad to worse for England. To

remind you that Australia posted

that mammoth total 442-8. England

have had a disastrous first innings.

Alastair Cook got 37. This is Joe

Root falling very companily, just

nine for Joe Root. The Captain not a

good series for him. Australia's

bowlers doing the job

single-handedly. That is Nathan Lyon

catching Moeen Ali. Look at the

reaction from Mitchell Starc. He had

half a second to react to that ball

coming to dismiss Jonny Bairstowy

Bairstow, that is James Anderson

going the last ball of England's in,

but they have take an quick wicket.

There is James Anderson bouncing

back after falling for England to

dismiss Bancroft there for 5-1. So

Australia back in bat, looking to

build on that mammoth lead they

have. England all out for 227, 215

behind and of course if England slip

to a 2-0 loss in the series so far,

that puts the ashes within touching

distance for Australia, the next

test is in Perth, England haven't

won at the Waka since 1978. That is

almost 40 years so eight days into

the Ashes Series and it looks like

the urn may already be lost. Stop.

Stop. Stop! OK. Ronnie O'Sullivan,

he is a star, does he want to take

part any I'm a celebrity?

He is full

of surprises.

You will know he is.

An unconventional approach to his

sport. He has a love hate

relationship, deciding one minute he

loves snooker, the next he hates it.

His current approach he doesn't want

to become too emotionally involved

and he wants to play for the enjoy

it of it. He has won the current

tournament he is playing in the UK

Championship, five times he has won

five World Championships as well, so

which ever approach he takes seems

to be working but at the moment he

is relaxed, and therefore happy to

talk about the fact he would quite

keen to take part in I'm a celebrity

get me out of here. He has been

watching it and he was watching it

the other night and thought wow I

need to have a go. You get a chance

to go Australia. Get the family out

there for a nice holiday, he said I

am coming round to the idea if the

price is right. He is a big fan of

one of the contestants Amir Khan who

is taking part for a fee of around

250,00 pounds, and Ronnie said he

would be keen if the price was

right. He said I get approached all

the time do these show, I have been

too busy playing snooker, I have

turned down opportunities in the

past, I would do it now. So maybe

next series we will be covered in

snakes or eating spiders. Spiders.-

Next this morning -

I really urge you to set aside some

time and watch this fascinating

and moving film which follows three

people with different

mental health experiences.

Bex, who has Obsessive

Compulsive Disorder,

Laura who is recovering

from anorexia and Matt

who experiences anxiety

and depression.

They invited Radio 1

Newsbeat to spend much of 2017

following them and their stories

so they could help raise awareness

of mental health issues.

It's pretty intimate and raw

and as you might imagine

their stories encompass highs

and lows, and as such you might find

some of the things they share

with us distressing.

I'm nearly 24.

So I say nearly 24 because I'm

actually 23 but I don't like odd

numbers because they bring

bad luck, so...

So I'm nearly 24.

Er, I love cats, so, I love cats.

I've got bipolar as well,

and borderline personality disorder.

I forgot about that,

I forgot about that then.

It's quite a long list, actually,

what I've been diagnosed with,

but we'll just stick to the two...

Well, it's three, actually,

because I've got OCD as well.

That's an odd number, hang on.

I started off, I was overweight

from being a young child.

When I got to about 16,

when I was going to college,

I decided just to lose some weight.

It just sort of snuck up on you,

it's not like one day

I woke up and thought,

"I'm an anorexic."

Erm, but I suppose I started getting

the thought that it was out

of control when I realised that

I couldn't eat without feeling

guilty, I couldn't eat

without the compulsive

need to exercise.

It does affect my

photography quite a lot.

It's a very active job,

I'm on my feet all the time.

I have to have the energy,

whereas most the time I'm

continuously weak and not

feeling strong enough.

Aren't you beautiful?

I hit rock bottom on 20th November

2016, and I will remember that date

because it was the day I went

to sleep and it was the first

time that I felt that

I never wanted to wake up.

On the 20th of every month now

I want to set myself little

goals that help me keep

on the road to recovery.

So they include things like starting

a tai chi class or doing some yoga.

I want to do a skydive for BEAT,

the eating disorder charity.

And one day it'll be

several years of recovery,

rather than just months.

I've always been an anxious lad,

really, but it wasn't until I joined

the Navy that I realised

there was an issue there.

I remember once I was walking

through the dockyard and I had

a massive panic attack,

I didn't know what it was.

It wasn't until I was told, really,

that I knew it was an issue.

That's when I realised that

I was ill and it's not something

that's just going to go away.

When it's at its worst,

it's completely debilitating.

I couldn't be here now

playing golf, it'd be...

I wouldn't shower for days,

I'd just sleep, or wouldn't sleep,

I'd drink really heavy.

The panic attacks,

the suicidal thoughts,

everything that comes with it,

comes all at once and there's not

much you can do about it, really.

There's so many different symptoms

that come with a panic attack.

You've got the racing heart,

you can't breathe, you're

shaking, you're crying,

you're sweating, hallucinations.

You feel like you're going to die.

I really want to go out for my 30th.

We're on about going away

somewhere, but it scares me

because when I get too drunk,

that's when I have my panic attacks.

Yes!

MP3 player, phone.

I've been diagnosed with depression,

social anxiety disorder,

obsessive-compulsive disorder,

bipolar, borderline personality

disorder, and also insomnia.

And that window's locked.

I call my anxiety disorder

the anxious hug monster,

because that's how it feels,

my chest is compressed,

it feels like your heart's pounding

and your hands are shaking.

That's locked.

When I've been leaving the flat,

it takes me longer with my OCD

as well, and my anxiety.

I need to do my checks,

right, so we need to go...

That's turned off, that's turned

off, that's turned off.

Hang on, that's turned on,

and then that's turned off.

That's turned off.

The window is locked.

That's locked.

One, two, three, four, five, six...

That's locked.

And then to my bedroom.

The lamp is unplugged.

The laptop needs to be unplugged.

Don't trust that being on.

Straighteners are unplugged.

Everything's turned off in here,

the window's locked.

Right, living room.

This window, that's

locked, that's fine.

I'll just check the back door

again, then we can go.

Right, that's definitely locked.

OK, right, we can go, we can go,

I know the straighteners

are unplugged, we can go now.

Just check that window again.

That's fine, that window's fine.

OK, everything's turned off.

I know the straighteners

are unplugged, for God's sake,

and the back door's locked.

OK.

OK, we, OK, we can go.

I'll just count to ten, one, two...

..Six, seven, eight, nine, ten.

OK, we can go.

So I go to knitting club every week,

and today's knitting club day,

so I'm going to do my yarn-bombing

and sew all my patches

so I'm going to do my yarn-bobbing

and sew all my patches

onto the bench.

During the week we make things,

and then on the actual knitting club

day we just sew them on.

When I was ill, like with my

anxiety, which hasn't got better,

but when I was, well,

not ill, but a bit unwell

with my anxiety, I didn't go

to the knitting club for about four

weeks, so I missed a month,

but I came back and everyone

was dead welcoming and,

"Oh, glad you're feeling better,"

and now I just like the knitting.

One minute.

SIREN WAILS.

Sorry about that.

I don't like sirens,

I'm really sensitive to sound.

I try and have a good routine,

take my medication at a specific

time, at night-time,

then have a good meal.

Even if it's just a few rows

or if it's just something, like,

I've got a chalkboard in the kitchen

and it will always tell me to water

the plants and knit,

so I've got to do at least those two

things everyday, and then I know

I've done something with the day.

And even though it's not a lot,

it's a lot for someone that has,

like, a mental illness,

so even though I'm out now,

I can't stop thinking

if the straighteners are turned on.

But I know I've unplugged them.

I know I've unplugged them.

Before, I would never have

ordinarily eaten anything for lunch,

but something quite generic,

like beans on toast,

is almost a safe food for me,

but it's getting it in.

Before, I would never have

eaten bread or potatoes,

or even beans would have been too

much sugar in that, so to go

from eating nothing to eating

something like this is quite a big

deal for me.

But when I am making food,

I just sort of try and distract

myself as much as possible.

If I stand here in silence and think

about it, I will just let my mind

wander to calories more often

than not, and I'll start thinking

about what else am I going to be

eating later and how many calories

are in this, and if I pull myself

back and actually think,

why am I doing this,

I can't really give a reason for it.

One of the worst things for me

to overcome was the guilt.

You know, when I was just

about to hit rock bottom,

I never thought I would be able

to eat like a normal person again.

I'm not ashamed to say that I've

used alcohol substantially

throughout the years to aid me.

I wouldn't say necessarily

that I have an issue,

however I know it's a trigger.

Guinness, please, pal.

It's got bad over the last couple

of weeks because I felt bad.

I know I've been drinking too much

because I'm not doing anything.

The gym's started

to slip a little bit.

Golf's just gone out the window.

It's very much waking up feeling

like crap on a weekend

and doing it all again.

It's a downward spiral.

As soon as you start to counteract

the depression with the beer,

it's just not worth it.

And then you go back

to where you were.

But it's telling yourself not to do

that, because that's all I've done,

that's all I've learned

through the Navy, etc,

when I've been trying to battle it,

like alcohol's the way out,

when essentially it isn't.

It just makes things 20 times worse.

So I have to collect medication

today, it's the sort

of thing that I dread,

but we'll see how I get on.

OK, so we're here.

And it's definitely busy.

There's people everywhere,

people get too close to me,

and then people having

conversations, but loads and loads

and loads of conversations,

and then there's staff talking,

and it's just really loud.

It really affects my anxiety.

So I've got my medication - hooray -

and it's time to go home.

Hooray.

So I wasn't in there for very

long, and I'm home now,

and I still don't feel that calm.

There's three little boxes in there,

so that'll last me...

That'll last me four days

and in four days' time I'll

have to get some more.

So...

It's just a case of me trying

to find something to calm me down.

I want to show you a

little bit of my bloat.

This is just from eating

a perfectly normal tea,

let's have a look at

the time, three hours ago.

And I look like I'm carrying a baby.

Now, I know it's not that bad,

considering, but as somebody who has

bones jutting out most of the time,

my belly button

is even sticking out.

It isn't painful, but it is

extremely uncomfortable.

It feels like the worst gas,

the worst pressure, you can't

get the air in, and...

These are my ankles, and today

they are terrible with something

called peripheral neuropathy.

That is a nerve damage,

and the best way to describe it,

it's like a creeping sensation,

like lots of little bugs

are crawling up my legs.

Anybody who thinks eating disorders

are a vanity thing, you know,

I looked haggard and half-dead

in my worst throes of anorexia,

and I knew that was ugly.

I didn't want to look like that.

That's a prime example of the fact

that it's all in your head,

nothing to do with being

narcissistic, or vanity.

Exhale, release down.

On the plus side, I've just

completed this month's challenge.

Extend the arms forward.

Yoga went really, really well.

Actually did help my circulation

as well, which was a nice thing.

And I just thought it was a really

nice way to spend some time

with myself and to be with other

people at the same time as well.

SHE SIGHS.

I've just got all these thoughts

in my head all the time.

It's like the world is just

really loud and my chest

always feels really tight,

and I've got all these thoughts

going in my head all the time,

there's just not an off switch.

I just want to feel OK,

and I don't even know

what that feels like.

Normal day, woke up 5am,

ready for the 6am-3pm early shift.

Nothing stands out during work that

would influence what happened,

it was just a standard day.

At the time, I was going through

the motions of giving my car back.

I came home, just had a quick beer,

playing Fifa, and I get a phone call

from an unknown number,

which I wouldn't normally pick up,

but for some reason I just did.

HE EXHALES.

RAPID BREATHING.

RAPID BREATHING.

HE EXHALES SLOWLY.

HE SOBS.

HE EXHALES SLOWLY.

HE SOBS.

Come on.

Basically an insurance company had

contacted my old address saying

they're going to auto-renew my car

insurance for £3000, which...

Just literally knocked me for six.

It was like...

The only way I can describe it,

it's like you're grieving,

that grieving feeling when you lose

something, that's all I can describe

it, that's all I can remember of it.

People say, "Just calm down."

It doesn't work.

It just makes it worse.

So whoever's watching this...

Don't say that.

Because it makes it

BLEEP

20 times worse.

BLEEP

this.

BLEEP

this.

WHISPERING:

I've got to go to sleep.

All the time, all I hear is,

"Don't eat, don't eat,

you can't eat, you're a failure,

it's a weakness, do you know how

many calories you eat?"

I feel sick, I feel

tired, I feel dizzy.

I'm so cold.

I don't know what to

do for the best.

I just want to curl up in a ball.

We'll be showing you the second half

of that film with Laura,

Bex and Matt in the next hour,

or you can watch the whole thing

online by heading to BBC iPlayer.

It's called My Mind and Me.

There are also details

of organisations that offer

advice and support for any

of the conditions you've

just seen online, just

search for BBC Actionline.

Some messages from people watching

the film. Daniel says, I didn't

expect to see our wedding

photographer Laura on Victoria Live

talking about eating disorder, he is

such a lovely person and our wedding

pictures are brilliant. A lot of

comments from people talking about

how difficult it is to access help

from the medical professionals,

ahave a says NHS mental Health

Services are in crisis, it is

impossible to get the treatment you

need, making one's mental health

worse. Once you inevitably reach a

crisis point there are no beds so

they put us in private wards which

must cost a fortune. Chris says

this, I have been trying to see a

psychiatrist as advised by medical

professional, three years later I

haven't seen one or have a care plan

in place, I am a male single parent,

I have lost my job and home due to

mental health problems but at least

I have an apology letter from the

team responsible. Jill says my son

has suffered poor mental health for

30 years and was told by the GP we

don't have the funding to help you.

It is very very sad.

Keep those coming in with your

unexperienced. -- own experiences,

part two coming up.

Time for the latest

news, here's Ben.

Britain and the European Union

appear close to reaching a deal that

will clear the way for the second

phase of Brexit talks.

EU sources said the two sides

were "nearing solutions",

ahead of Theresa May's meeting

with the European Commission

President, Jean-Claude Juncker,

in Brussels this afternoon.

Diplomats held negotiations

through the night on the last

remaining sticking point -

the Irish border.

Our Europe correspondent,

Adam Fleming reports.

Speaking on the Vanessa Feltzes show

on BBC Radio London the scarred boss

Coll denned what they had done. She

said all splis a duty of

confidentiality and it endures after

they leave the force. And she said,

there would be a review of whether

any offences had been committed.

any offences had been committed.

700,000 children and pensioners

in the UK have fallen into relative

poverty over the past four years,

according to a new report.

The Joseph Rowntree Foundation says

it's the first sustained rise

affecting these age groups

for 20 years.

The left-leaning thinktank

warns decades of progress

are in danger of unravelling,

and has called on the

government to take action.

It's reported from Madrid that six

former ministers of Catalonia -

who were detained for their role

in the region's illegal

declaration of independence -

have been freed on bail.

Meanwhile Catalonia's former

President Carles Puigdemont is due

to appear at an extradition

hearing in Brussels.

Let's get the latest

from Madrid with Gavin Lee.

A legal tussle but with political

implications?

Yes, I mean if look at

it, you have the whole separatist

Government in court, either here in

Madrid, or in Brussels, and bear in

mind these were all the men and

women who voted illegally to break

the region away from Spain what has

happened in the last few minutes,

you have the hearing about eight of

those ministers who have spent more

than a month in prison now, they,

where they are facing allegations of

sedition and rebellion, which

carries 30 years in prison. They

were remanded in custody because one

of the risk they would flee like the

former President who is wanted, he

is in court as part of an

extradition request by Spain to face

the same allegation, that will take

we think about a week to decide, a

ruling on that case, here in the

past few minutes six of those

ministers have been Leesed providing

they pay 100,000 euro row, just

under £100,000 bail. That is likely

to happen. They are in three

different prisons. It is campaign

launched for the elections in three

weeks' time, we are hearing from

some of the lawyers they will try to

get ministers out of prison to

Compiegne in that, two of the

minister, including the Vice

President will remain in custody, it

is interesting because he on Friday,

the hearing here at the Supreme

Court in Madrid refused to take

questions from anyone other than

these own lawyer, effectively saying

they don't recognise the Spanish

state and the emergency powers they

have taken over in Catalonia since

they dissolved the Parliament and

called election, we know those two,

a former Interior Minister and two

independent activists as well. We

expect the rest to be released

today.

We expect the rest

to be released today.

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

Now the sport.

Good morning.

The Ashes are slipping away

from England's grasp.

They were bowled out for 227-215

behind Australia at the end

of their first innings.

Australia have lost Cameron Bancroft

early on and are 15-1.

David Silva gives Manchester City

a record-equalling 13th

Premier League win in a row,

with a late goal against West Ham.

Alfie Hewett is the wheelchair

Masters singles champion.

He beat his compatriot Gordon Reid

in Loughborough to become the first

British winner in 23 years

of the event.

And the tournament favourite

Ronnie O'Sullivan marches

on at the UK Snooker Championship

in York, he's comfortably

through to the third round.

Good morning.

Good morning.

The Metropolitan Police

Commissioner, Cressida Dick,

has condemned two former senior

officers for revealing

confidential detailsabout a raid

on the office of Theresa May's

number two, Conservative

MP Damian Green.

Bob Quick and Neil Lewis alleged

that pornography was found

on a computer in the MP's

Parliamentary office in 2008.

This morning, Cressida Dick says

she believes the officers

breached their code of conduct.

This is case from nine years ago,

all police officers know very well

they have a duty of confidentiality,

a duty to protect personal

information, that duty in my view

clearly endures after you leave the

service, and so it is my view that

what they have done, based on my

understanding of what that they are

saying, what they have done, is

wrong. And I condemn it. We are

reviewing what they appear to have

done in my professional standards

department to see whether any

offences have been committed. Police

officers come across personal

information, sensitive information

every day, most of them several

times a day, they know full well it

is their duty to protect that

information, and it is for me,

extremely important that the public

know that the vast majority of

officers protect private

information, properly, and all the

time.

information, properly,

and all the time.

Mr Green strenuously

denies the allegations.

His colleagues have leapt

to his defence, saying he's

been unfairly treated,

even hounded by the police.

But retired Scotland Yard detective

Neil Lewis says he has no doubt

the pornography had been accessed

by Damian Green.

The computer was in Mr Green's

office, on his desk,

logged in, you know,

it's his account, his name, erm...

In between browsing pornography,

he was sending e-mails

from his account, his

personal account, erm...

reading documents,

writing documents, erm...

and it was just impossible, it was

sort of exclusive and extensive,

that it was ridiculous to suggest

that anybody else

could have done it.

Mr Green is also accused

of behaving inappropriately

with a Conservative activist.

The investigation into both those

matters is expected to conclude

early this week.

Let's talk to Chris

Phillips, the former head

of counter-terrorism

for the Metropolitan Police.

Alex Chalk is the Conservative

MP for Cheltenham.

Welcome both of you. Chris Philp,

Cressida Dick could not have been

clearer what these two retired off

verse done is wrong and she condemns

it

Absolutely.

Would you agree?

I

certainly agree that we shouldn't

retired police officers shouldn't be

sharing information such as that.

However, there is the difficulty of

when you personally know or believe

that something is not being said

that is true. Don't forget this has

come from an allegation of

inappropriate...

There is no

difficulty. You have a duty, you had

a Code of Conduct and you a duty to

follow that code of counting and

according to Britain's Top Cop those

officers have potentially breached

it

She has been very career on that,

those are retired police.

Why does

it make a difference? Why? They are

releasing confidential information,

into the public domain

We have a

whistle-blower system where you

should put information, if you think

a wrong is being done and being

covered up. Now, I am not making

excuses for the officer, what I am

saying is they believed that what

they needed to put into the public

domain was important and they have

done that.

Is that fair enough?

No,

absolutely not. We have heard now

from the top police officer also Sir

Peter pay hi, Sir Tom Winsor, these

is a barn door breach of the code of

conduct.

Should they be prosecuted

That is a matter for the police and

the CPS. But at first ambulance it

looks like a serious breach has

taken place, it is an important

matter. We give police officers

power and with pours come

responsibility, to breach those

corrodes trust in the police which

we have a fantastic police force but

this does nothing for the

reputation.

Mr Green has given

evidence to the inquiry into him

that pornography has the been found

on other Parliamentary computers

without being downloaded or watched

by staff. Could that help him?

The

real point here is he is saying nine

years after the event. This was

something nothing to do with me.

One

of the things that is so wrong is if

that had been announced, declared

nine years aing a it might have been

possible for him to say I couldn't

have been at the computer because I

was at this meet, so to leak this

out, in the media nine years later

deprives that person of a defence,

that making it doubly wrong.

It is

time that he resigns?

Absolutely

not. I think it would be wrong if

something which turns out to be have

been a complete breach of the Code

of Conduct of police officers were

to contribute in that way.

What if

it is true?

The point I was

goings...

What if it is true?

Those

are being considered by the Cabinet

Office, that I will need to consider

them in the round. The simple point

is if they should have been declared

why not speak to the Cabinet Office

about it? Why go on national TV and

speak about nit that way?

What we

are talking about it seems to have

gone surreal. We are talking about

people in the seat of Government

looking at porn.

Not according to

Damian green.

Someone is looking at

it. Many other people are doing

something similar, these thing, porn

is rife with...

It was legal

pornography, you saying it is right

for them to make a moral judgment?

There are police officers who have

been sacked for watching porn,

rightly.

So they expect the same to

be done for somebody else, even

though they have downloaded or watch

it it?

Someone has. These officers

are clear they believe Damian Green

has, the point is, this is going on

and don't let us forget there is a

security issue here as well, because

this stuff is full of malware and

all sorts of stuff. This is in our

seat of Government. This should not

be happening.

That is defended on a

spurious pretext. No crime had been

committed and the officers took a

moral judgment to embarrass him.

That is very wrong.

Thank you very much. Damian Green

denies the allegations.

Coming up, we'll hear

from the Australian MP who used

a debate on same-sex marriage

to propose to his

boyfriend in Parliament.

Ryan Patrick Polger,

will you marry me?

How delicious is that?

How do you take the UK

out of the EU, but keep

the border between Ireland

and Northern Ireland open?

That is the question that has been

taxing politicians here,

there and in Europe,

who are desperate to move

onto the next round of

Brexit negotiations.

With Northern Ireland leaving

the EU, and Ireland remaining,

it's unlikely that the 500km border

can remain as it is, but all sides

are desperate to avoid a hard border

with strict customs checks,

which may also destabilise

peace in the area.

The EU has told the Irish Government

that it's up to them to decide

whether they're happy with the deal

Theresa May puts on the table.

Their Cabinet is meeting now

to make that decision.

We can speak to Neil Richmond

who is a senator for Fine Gael,

Ireland's governing party.

Dr Sylvia De Mars is from

Newcastle University.

She has been looking at the impact

a hard border would have

on Northern Ireland.

Kevin Doyle is the political editor

for the Irish Independent.

Thank you very much for talking to

us. Mr Richmond first of all. Can

you explain to our audience some of

whom voted for Brexit for

immigration or economic reasons, but

not because of anything to do with

the Irish border why it is so

important for Northern Ireland and

the island of Ireland to continue

with an invisible border?

Well, for

the past 20 years begins the Good

Friday Agreement came into place,

life on the island of Ireland has

taken up a whole new normal way of

being economically and socially and

ever since Brexit occurred the

referendum took place, the Irish

Government has been firm that

whatever happens when the UK leaves

the EU that the integrity of the

island of Ireland must be maintained

as close as it is possible to as it

is now.

Because of what? What would happen

if there was a hard border?

Well,

there is so much, but the most

striking thing apart from the huge

economic impact, the amount of

cross-border trade that we have and

the sheer ease of movement of people

over 30,000 people cross the border

every day, for business and for

education purposes and health

purposes, but crucially if physical

border controls and custom

protections were put in, it has been

said by both police forces on the

island and sir Hugh Orde there could

be a viable return to violence

within just one week.

Ireland's

Deputy Prime Minister has said this

morning there is no agreement yet on

this issue of the border. There is

progress, but no agreement yet. What

does the British Government have to

do today to satisfy you?

Well, I

think there has been a lot of

discussion over the weekend and what

the Irish Government has been very

firm on for at least 18 months is

that we want to see detailed

proposals from the British

Government. I do believe the Cabinet

has received some draft

recommendations following the

weekend's negotiation which are

being poured over at the moment.

These aren't final texts. These

won't be the end of the story, but

we're hoping what has been received

so far and discussed over the

weekend will allow significant

progress in order for us to go on to

phase two of the negotiations.

Let

me bring in Sylvia, if everyone

wants to keep the border open and

invisible which they do, what's the

issue?

Problemically there are a

number of red lines which are in

conflict of each other amongst the

negotiating parties. So, say you

don't want to be in either of those

arrangements implies you're going to

have different rules and regulations

than the EU and Ireland at some

point in time and you're going to

run into borders being created. A

secondary problem is that one of the

offers that the EU has made is to

say can we not look at creating a

special deal fortunately Northern

Ireland alone given these

circumstances? But that runs

contrary to what the DUP desires out

of these negotiations and doesn't

want Northern Ireland to be treated

differently from the rest of the

United Kingdom. So...

So is there a

way...

The ways it achieve not

having a hard border have been made

difficult by the red lines set out.

Do you think there is a way

realistically of designing something

that perhaps looks like the customs

union. You call it something else,

allowing the invisible border to

continue and allowing Britain the

freedom to negotiate its own free

trade deals around the world?

I

think that at this point, we're

running into issues of wording more

than of principle. I think in

principle, everyone is on the same

page, but what needs to happen is

that the future of the border in

Ireland needs to be set out in a

number of words that will make

everyone happy. So we're going to

have to agree to having basically

similar rules and regulations in

Northern Ireland and in Ireland in

such a way that this does not make

Northern Ireland feel like it's not

part of the United Kingdom. I think

everything we have been hearing this

morning is that progress is being

made on finding that wording, but

we're not quite there yet.

Let me

bring in Kevin Doyle. Hi, Kevin,

what steer are you getting? Is it

going to be a fudged form of words?

So far the Irish Government and the

Cabinet that are meeting now, what

will come out of the meeting is they

won't take a fudge. The Taoiseach,

has been taking a hard-line on this

and the Brexit minister is saying

again if a deal can't be reached

today that doesn't matter, the Irish

position won't change and the visit

by Donald Tusk to Dublin last Friday

gave the Government a renewed

strength on this issue. There was

some fear if Britain and it was seen

as perhaps part of the British

strategy was if they could get over

the divorce bill they could make

good progress on the rights of

European citizens. That maybe

Ireland would be pushed by the other

members of the EU to move on to the

next stage to deal with this as part

of the trade talks, but the fact

that Donald Tusk said to the

Taoiseach, it is up to you, you

decide what happens next and I

gather that after the Theresa May,

Jean-Claude Juncker meeting, the

Taoiseach will be in contact and he

will be asked if he thinks it can

move on and at this stage all the

signs are that Ireland is going to

say no today at least.

Say no?

That

it is not ready. The formula of

words that is on the table from the

British Government at the minute

doesn't look like it's going to be

enough for Ireland to allow things

to move on today at least.

OK.

We

will be going later into the week at

the earliest.

Is that what you're

hearing Neil Richmond?

One deadline

has already been missed by the

British Government back in October

and we're not working to a deadline

of this afternoon when Prime

Minister May will meet President

Juncker, but to the European Council

meeting on 14th December. As the

minister said this morning, we want

to get this resolved as soon as

possible. It's in our interests to

move to phase two, but this is very,

very important and we're not going

to rush when we know we have to meet

again in February, but we would like

to get it resolved, if not today, in

the next week or so.

That's worth

bearing in mind then. The

expectations in the UK are that this

somehow has to be sorted this

afternoon, this form of words, but

you're saying calm down?

Well, to be

honest, it's enlightening to us to

see this added interest from the

British negotiating team in the last

fortnight. These are issues we have

been talking about from the Irish

and European side for the past 12

months. Nothing has changed from us,

but we are starting to see the

British side engage on the top three

issues and the panic and last minute

decision by many ministers to say we

need to rush on to phase two now, it

was disappointing when ultimately,

both the British and European sides

agreed a long time ago that we

needed to get significant progress

on the first three negotiating

issues. This is what we have been

talking about for months and months

and months now. It hasn't just come

it a head in the last week or so.

And that's fair enough, isn't it?

Yes. I think it is. I think that the

number one problem that we've been

seeing so far in the negotiations is

that there have been a lot of

inference that technology will

resolve the border issue and I think

what we're finally seeing this week

is realism on the side of the UK

saying it's not just about

technology, we need to agree it's

something bigger that ensures that

Northern Ireland and Ireland will

continue to have a level playing

field in the future. Technology

alone is not going to accomplish

that. That is where the UK or where

Ireland was hoping the UK would get

to. It has just taken a while.

Kevin, I'm interested in your, I'm

not asking for our sources, but I'm

interested in your steer that the

Irish Government is going to say

this form of words is not enough for

us. Are you hearing that from more

than one person? Two people? More

than that?

Yes, I'm hearing that

from very senior people in

government. The way one person who

would be at the centre -- who would

be at the centre of the talks

phrased it was, "We are not viewing

today as a drop dead deadline." And

that is as much as saying we're not

going to meet the deadline today. I

don't know if I would put my house

on it, but at this stage, all the

signs are is there isn't going to be

a piece of paper signed today, but

having said that, the language is

more positive than what we have been

hearing in the last few days. There

was a moment, I think in the last

fortnight where the rhetoric perhaps

from Dublin became somewhat

offensive maybe in UK circles, but

that was the Irish Government trying

to get the UK to wake up to this

problem. It's interesting, it's only

in the last few days that I have

seen the BBC vans and the other News

Channels from the UK all lining up

on the streets in Dublin. It's the

first time I have seen since the

economic crash and the bank bail

out.

We love a deadline as much as

anyone else.

It is reflective of the

fact while Irish ministers went over

and broke can diplomatic protocol

they got no coverage and no notice

and this has been the issue that's

been talked about here all along.

All the way through, people have

been talking about the border here,

but it isn't a thing that the

British Government have copped on to

at all.

Thank you very much. All of

you. I really appreciate it. Kevin

Doyle, political editor the Irish

Independent. The quote for me, "We

are not viewing today as a drop dead

deadline." So, stay tuned to BBC

News for every twist and turn as the

day progresses. I have got some

messages from people watching the

documentary, the mini documentary

from Radio 1 Newsbeat. We played the

first part in the first-half hour of

our programme and what an insight it

was into the lives of three young

people with some pretty severe

mental health issues. One viewer

e-mailed to say, "I cried while

watching that documentary. I was

diagnosed with bipolar last October

so I can relate to Bex. Once I

entered the mental health system, I

have been amazed at their service

and I still am." That's so good to

hear. You don't often hear that. So

thank you. Another, no, "Much love

it all three brave people. You will

get there." A tweet from Helen,

"Heart piercing videos from three

very bave people. Should be required

viewing." Julie says, "What a brave

video on mental health." Simon

tweets, "As someone with OCD, I can

emphasise with every moment of that

film. I hid my conditions for so

long, but things can get better with

help. Those three people are so

brave. Today you will inspire people

to seek help." Thank you for those.

We have got the second part of the

documentary coming up in the next

hour of the programme.

News and sport are on the way.

Before that, the weather. Matt is

here. Apparently we will get the big

chill this week, is that right?

Yes,

winter is back. Did you watch the

skies last night?

I go to bed very

early because I get up very early! I

didn't, but I have seen amazing

footage.

It is Supermoon time.

Supermoons occur, the moon moves

around the Earth in orbit and it

coincides with the Earth. That's

when it is called a Supermoon. It is

then we get the moon appearing

brighter and that little bit bigger

as well. Always best viewed at the

start of the day and at the end of

the day. We have got a few cracking

moon shots.

That's amazing. The only Supermoon

of 2017, but not long until the next

one. The start of January and end of

January.

I will go to bed later.

Good morning. It was a night of the

Supermoon and it meant clear skies

for some of you this morning. After

that fine start to the week, it is a

week of change and wet and windy

weather to come midweek and by the

end of the week as Victoria hinted

at there is something more wintry

heading our way. Dry and sunny

across many eastern parts today, but

in the west, more cloud around and

that will threaten the odd shower

here and there. Very few in number.

Greatest chance of a few showers

further north of Scotland where

there is a keen breeze, but for

most, it stays dry. Sunny spells.

And temperatures above where they

should be for the time of year.

Seven to 11 Celsius. Which leaves us

into a fine evening rush hour and

through tonight, still the thickest

of the cloud in the west with the

odd passing shower. Turns wetter for

the Hebrides later on. Most will be

dry and cloud amounts will vary

through the night. Like last night

any lengthier cloud breaks,

temperatures will drop below what

you see on the chart. We continue

with the milder theme compared with

last week. Tomorrow the big

difference will be thicker cloud

across western and southern areas

which will break to allow sunshine.

Still the odd shower. Most places

dry, but turning wetter later in the

day. Again the Highlands and islands

heavy and persistent rain here.

Temperatures up a notch on what we

will see through this afternoon. As

we go further into wince, there is a

price to pay. Strong and gale force

winds. Many eastern areas will stay

dry. Temperatures widely into double

figures, but the wet and windy

weather will spread eastwards.

Widespread gales, if not severe

gales. As that weather system pushes

its way towards the east, we will

start to see a drop in temperature.

It looks like the colder air will be

back particularly as we start to hit

Friday.

That's how it's looking.

Hello it's Monday, it's 10 o'clock,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

Crunch talks in Brussels today

between Theresa May and the European

Commission President -

it's thought there's been

progress on the divorce bill

and citizen's rights ,

but not on the Irish border.

Malware and all sorts of stuff. This

is in our seat of Government. This

should not be happening.

That is

defended

We want to get this resolved. We

are, this is a very important, and

we are not going to rush when we

know we have to meet again in

February, but ideally we would like

to get it resolved in the next week

or so.

We've been following

the lives of six people

on their mental health journeys -

they recorded their most

personal moments to reveal

what their lives are really like.

I have these thoughts in my head all

the time. It just hurts, like the

world is really loud and my chest

feels really tight. I have all these

thoughts going in my head all the

time. There is just not an off

switch.

There is just not an off switch.

You can hear that report in full

in around five minutes time.

Many are you saying it should be

compulsory viewing.

Many are you saying it should

be compulsory viewing.

Five cats found dead in Northampton

have been linked to the so-called

Croydon cat killer thought to be

responsible for the deaths of more

than 400 animals across England.

We'll be hearing from two

families who have lost

their pets in this way.

Good morning.

Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news.

Britain and the European Union

appear close to reaching a deal that

will clear the way for the second

phase of Brexit talks.

EU sources said the two sides

were "nearing solutions",

ahead of Theresa May's meeting

with the European Commission

President, Jean-Claude Juncker,

in Brussels this afternoon.

Diplomats held negotiations

through the night on the last

remaining sticking point -

the Irish border.

A spokesman said there has been

significant progress we we are not

there yet.

A judge in Madrid has released

on bail six former ministers

of Catalonia who were detained

for their role in the region's

illegal declaration of independence.

Two other ex-ministers -

including the region's

former Vice President -

remain in custody.

Meanwhile in Belgium,

Catalonia's former President Carles

Puigdemont is due to appear

at an extradition hearing.

The Metropolitan Police Commissioner

Cressida Dick has said that former

officers 'were wrong' to speak

to the BBC about pornography

they say was found on a computer

in Damian Green's parliamentary

office.

Speaking on the Vanessa Feltz show

on BBC Radio London,

the Scotland Yard boss condemned

what they had done.

She said all police have a duty

of confidentiality and to protect

personal information,

and that it clearly endures

after they leave the force.

And she said there would be a review

of whether any offences

had been committed.

700,000 children and pensioners

in the UK have fallen into relative

poverty over the past four years,

according to a new report.

The Joseph Rowntree Foundation says

it's the first sustained rise

affecting these age groups

for 20 years.

The left-leaning thinktank

warns decades of progress

are in danger of unravelling,

and has called on the

government to take action.

Our social affairs correspondent,

Michael Buchanan has more.

Police operations were under way in

the town, the woman was killed close

to her home on the 16th of October

in an attack that shocked the

country. The 53-year-old was known

for her blog accusing top

politicians of corruption.

politicians of corruption.

Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning -

use the hashtag Victoria live

and If you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate.

The second Ashes Test slipping away

from England now, they lost a

succession of quick wickets as they

struggled to settle. Joe Root second

to fall. There were moments of

brilliance from Australia. Moeen Ali

caught and bowled by Nathan Lyon and

Mitchell Starc removed Bairstow in

the same way. Incredible speed.

Overton offered resistance. England

all out for 227, over 200 runs

behind, Australia wanted to top up

that lead but James Anderson gave

England and early breakthrough,

Croft out, Australia 35-1.

Manchester City are eight points

clear at the top of the Premier

League after a 13th win in a row.

West Ham put up a fight. After City

levelled David Silva put away the

winner seven minutes from time.

It was similar, it was I thought

when we were in the second half weer

going to score, win the game. Today

was a bit different so it was

massive.

It shows they are going to do it.

They can do it. I have been pleased

in training they have been very

good. I can't have complaints, the

games I want us to play better but I

think what you said today, we ran

them close, not enough but hopefully

we can take positives from that. It

was controversy on the south coast

with Bournemouth defender Adam Smith

claimed the referee told him after

the match he was wrong to book him

for diving, instead of awarding a

penalty against Southampton, the

match ended in a one all draw. Smith

will miss the next game for his

fifth yellow card of the season.

Rangers moved into second place

above Aberdeen on goal difference,

Windass with the winning goal there

and non-league Woking will be in the

hat for this FA Cup third round

draw, late equaliser from Joe ward

earned them a replay last night.

Double Olympic champion Jade Jones

said it felt amazing to finish on a

high. High. She will end the year as

world number one. It is an

impressive return to form for Jones.

Ronnie O'Sullivan said his game

started to feel good again after

breezing into the third round of the

UK Championship in York, he is

looking to equal Steve Davis's

record of six titles and he had no

trouble winning 6-1.

Who know, as we were chatting about

it we might see him in the celebrity

jungle at some point in the future.

We will see. Thank you.

Thank you.

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