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Hello it's Friday, it's 9

o'clock, I'm Tina Daheley,

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welcome to the programme.

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Significant progress on Brexit

following overnight talks.

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There will be no hard border

with Ireland and three million EU

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nationals living in Britain -

and a million British expats -

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will have their rights

protected when we leave.

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Theresa May arrived in Brussels to

make the announcement this morning.

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We'll have the latest in what's

being called a breakthrough moment

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and look ahead to the next

phase of talks.

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The deal we have struck will

guarantee the rights of more than 3

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million EU citizens living in the UK

and 1 million UK citizens living in

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the EU. EU citizens living in the UK

will be able to go on living their

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lives as before.

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We'll look ahead to

the next phase of talks.

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Children affected by domestic

violence need better

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protection according

to England's children's

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commissioner.

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We'll have a special report.

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I would like the Prime Minister to

make this a priority for the whole

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of government and actually send out

strong messages and a framework for

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government and public services

throughout the land as children need

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their help now, they can't wait for

that support.

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Bochum to the programme. We will

bring you full analysis of the

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Brexit negotiations throughout the

programme today, including live

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press conferences in Brussels and

reaction here.

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Our top story today...

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There's been a major breakthrough

in the Brexit talks.

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The European Commission now says

"sufficient progress" has been

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made in the first stage

of the negotiations -

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about citizen's rights,

the Irish border and the size

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of the so-called divorce

bill - that we can move

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on to the second stage.

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That'll be about Britain's future

relationship with the EU -

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and in particular, the shape of any

deal on trade.

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The announcement came at a news

conference in Brussels this morning

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by the European Commission president

Jean-Claude Juncker and Theresa May.

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One of the main sticking points

was the issue of which court

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would guarantee the rights of EU

citizens in the UK -

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this is what the Prime

Minister had to say.

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The deal we've struck will guarantee

the rights of more than 3 million EU

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citizens living in the UK and of 1

million UK citizens living in the

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EU. EU citizens living in the UK

will have their rights enshrined in

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UK law and enforced by British

courts. They will be able to go on

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living their lives as before. I was

cleared in Florence that we are a

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country that honours our

obligations. After some tough

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conversations, we've now agreed

settlement that is fair to the

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British taxpayer. It means that in

future we will be able to invest

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more in our priorities at home such

as housing, schools the NHS.

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The breakthrough follows 48 hours

of intense negotiations over

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the issue of the Irish border -

after Northern Ireland's DUP party

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had made it clear they weren't happy

with the solution proposed earlier.

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Jean-Claude Juncker said a hard

border of the Irish island

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could now be avoided.

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The UK has made significant

commitments on the avoidance of a

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hard border after its withdrawal

from the European Union. All of the

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EU 27 stand firmly behind Ireland

and behind the peace process.

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Let's get all the reaction from this

morning's brexit breakthrough

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with our correspondents

in Westminster and in Brussels.

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Chris Mason, first, what's

the political reaction been here?

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How did we get to this breakthrough

this morning?

Telephone diplomacy

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all night, chatting to Dublin,

Belfast in Brussels and then at daft

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o'clock in the morning, she got on a

plane with David Davis, the Brexit

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Secretary, in order to fly over to

Brussels and sign that document. We

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got the first proof that the deal

had been done when Martin sell my,

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the chief of staff to the president

of the European Commission,

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Jean-Claude Juncker, tweeted a

picture of a chimney with white

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smoke pouring out of it, all of the

symbolism and mystique of a papal

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conclave in one early morning tweet.

How did we get here from where we

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were on Monday, given that you

mediation of the Prime Minister when

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she was midway through her lunch

with Mr Juncker and the Democratic

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Unionist Party Lou a big raspberry

at the whole thing? Well, a huge

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amount of negotiation and

significant compromises to

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accommodate the views of the

Democratic Unionist Party, who got

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to a place last night where they

were willing, despite some

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reservations, to give their consent

to the documents being signed. I

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think wherever you are watching this

this morning around the UK, if you

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tilt your gear in the direction of

the window, you will probably be

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able to hear the size of relief

coming from Downing Street. This is

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a massive moment.

Let's find out

what is happening in Brussels now.

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What happens next, phase two, next

week?

Well, it has been quite a

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dramatic morning here, of course.

Things appear to have fallen into

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place in the end, as quickly as they

fell apart on Monday. And attention

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is already turning to precisely that

question - what happens now? Because

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of course this was just the first

phase of the Brexit negotiations,

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that test of sufficient progress

which we have heard about so often

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on citizens rights, on the Irish

border and on the financial

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settlement. The really big stuff,

actually, is still to come. This was

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just a bump in the road, a very

important bump in the road that had

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to be navigated successfully. The

talks about trade and transition

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will of course be even longer, even

more complex than those first phase

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talks. So, you're already hearing

warning voices from the European

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Union talking about, for example,

the terms and conditions which they

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will be attaching to that transition

period. So, a sigh of relief here as

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well, there has been genuine worry

that Britain might not be able to

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get this deal over this week, which

would create huge timetabling

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problems for next year. But

alongside that sigh of relief,

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people drawing breath to prepare for

the next round of talks. The next

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phase has already in effect begun,

with EU starting to talk about

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transition and what they're going to

want.

Thank you very much, Kevin

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Connolly in Brussels. We can go to

the BBC Newsroom now.

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Annita is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary

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of the rest of the day's news.

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A "day of rage" is being planned

by Palestinians angered by America's

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recognition of Jerusalem

as the capital of Israel.

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Around 30 demonstrators were injured

in clashes with Israeli forces

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in the West Bank yesterday.

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The US has warned Palestinians

against cancelling talks

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with vice-President

Mike Pence, who will visit

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the Middle East in less

than two weeks' time.

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A student who died weeks

after starting at university

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was failed by "every NHS

organisation that should have cared

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for her", a review has found.

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Averil Hart, who was 19,

died of a heart attack caused

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by anorexia in 2012.

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The Parliamentary and

Health Service Ombudsman

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says her death could and should

have been prevented.

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NHS England has apologised,

and says it's making "real progress"

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with eating disorder services.

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Snow, ice and windy conditions

are set to sweep across large

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parts of the UK today.

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Severe gales have already

caused disruption to air,

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rail and ferry services.

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Yellow "be aware" weather

warnings have been issued

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across much of Scotland,

Northern Ireland, Wales

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and north-west England -

with up to eight inches of snow

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expected in some areas.

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A number of new wildfires have

started in southern California,

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stretching firefighters

to the limit.

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Nearly 200,000 people have now been

evacuated from their homes.

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Planes have been diverted to one

of the latest blazes

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in the county of San Diego,

and officials say more than 400

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buildings have been destroyed.

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Our North America correspondent

James Cook reports.

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The American West was never really

came. The weather here was always

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wild and dangerous and in a warming

world, it seems to be getting worse.

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The wind has just picked up here in

the past few minutes and the fire is

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really flaring up on the hillside

there and pushing along this canyon.

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There are some homes down there. We

can hear shouts in the Valley and

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there are some families refusing to

leave. The Walkers are among them.

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They would not answer the door. They

are inside and intent on staying

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put, despite the danger lurking

nearby. At least two dozen horses

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have died in this via, which is the

worst here in living memory. In the

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exclusive suburb of Bel Air, they

attacked the fires, and famous

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people were among those forced to

flee. Every firefighting aircraft in

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the United States has been summoned

to California. They're making a big

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difference. In times of crisis come

extraordinary moments of compassion.

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Here a man apparently in distress

runs to rescue a rabbit. One little

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life saved. Several new fires have

broken out in the past few hours.

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Intoning them is a superhuman

effort. -- containing them. But

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mother nature is likely to have the

last word.

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If universities in England

were banks, they could be accused

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of mis-selling courses to teenagers

who have little understanding

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of money matters, that's

according to the head

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of public spending watchdog.

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Sir Amyas Morse says universities

are under very little competitive

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pressure to provide the best value,

and young people were taking out

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large loans to pay for tuition fees

without much effective

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help or advice.

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The government says its reforms

are helping students

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to make informed choices.

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Two of the country's biggest

discount retailers, Primark and

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SportsDirect, have been forced to

pay back thousands of staff who were

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paid less than the minimum wage.

They were among 206 the companies

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who have been named and shamed by

the for underpaying staff. The most

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common reasons given were failing to

pay workers when travelling between

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jobs and deducting money for

uniforms. All firms on the list say

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the issues have now been rectified.

Prison inspectors have found high

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levels of violence and filthy

conditions at Wormwood Scrubs for

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the third year in a row. They also

found areas of the west London

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prison, which houses 1200 inmates,

were strewn with letter, attracting

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rats and cockroaches. The Ministry

of Justice says it has taken

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decisive action to address the

problems.

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Coventry has been chosen as the UK

city of culture for 2021 It beat

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submissions from Paisley,

Stoke on Trent, Sunderland

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and Swansea to win the title.

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The bid team said their plans

were "about changing the reputation

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of a city" as well as hosting a year

of cultural celebration.

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There's 40 million people within two

hours Drive time. We are looking at

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visitors numbering two point

5,000,020 21. We're going to give

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something special to the UK.

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Scientists working in the Arctic

believe they may have

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discovered why some whales

repeatedly become stranded.

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Researchers tracked narwhals

which had been released

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after becoming entangled

in fishing nets.

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They found that when the whales

became frightened, blood-flow

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was restricted to their brains,

causing the animals to become

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confused and disorientated

as they tried to swim away.

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That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30.

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Let's get some sport.

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And as if he hasn't won enough

awards already, Cristiano Ronaldo

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has won another one?

Yes, good

morning. It is that question once

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again, who is better, Lionel Messi

or Cristiano Ronaldo? There is never

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going to be a definitive answer, I

think. Last night Ronaldo equalled

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Messi by winning his fifth Alund or

title. It was awarded to him in

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Paris. He posed with the trophy on

the Eiffel Tower. -- Balon d'Or. No

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player has won more awards than the

former Manchester United forward

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which five. Messi won four in a row

for Ronaldo's surge. Why did he get

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it this year? 49 goals in all

competitions is a pretty good

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reason! He also helped Real Madrid

to a second successive jumpy and and

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he and he says he has more to offer.

I still have the motivation. --

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second successive Champions League.

To play with happiness. The main

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word is, enjoy myself.

There was a

landmark last night for the Arsenal

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boss Arsene Wenger. Their Europa

League victory against BATE Borisov

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was his 700th win in charge of

Arsenal. And they won 6-0 in the

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end. Mohamed Elneny completed the

rout. Arsenal went through as group

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winners. Everton had already crashed

out of the competition, but Ademola

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Lookman, the 20-year-old, scored

twice as they got their only win of

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the campaign against Apollon

Limassol. Now, the line-up for the

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quarterfinals in the U:K.'s new

championship is complete, but there

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was a big scare for five-time winner

Ronnie O'Sullivan, who needed a 6-5

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win over Sunny Akani, a man 20 years

his junior. At one stage Sunny Akani

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was just one frame from victory.

O'Sullivan fought back rather

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fortunately in the end, saying he

felt he had robbed his opponent.

He

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put up a great performance. His

first time out there, and he played

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a lot better than I did Usher and he

probably deserved to win. I got

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very, very La Quinta tonight's. So,

I'm kind of relieved to win but I've

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really got to improve on that, to

think I'm going to have any chance

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of winning another match, really.

O'Sullivan moves on to play Martin

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Gould. They will be back out early

this afternoon in York.

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So after a frantic night

of long negotiations,

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Theresa May has finalised a deal

with the EU to unlock

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the next phase of the talks.

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Announcing the breakthrough,

the EU Commission President Jean

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Claude Juncker said it had been

a difficult negotiation

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for the EU as well as the UK.

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Today's result is of course a

compromise. It is the result of a

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long and intense discussion between

the commission negotiators and those

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of the UK. As in any negotiation,

both sides have two listen to each

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other. Are just their position, and

show willingness to compromises.

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This was a difficult negotiation.

For the European Union, as well as

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for the United Kingdom. On

Wednesday, last Wednesday, the

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College of commissioners gave me a

mandate to conclude the negotiation

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of the joint report. And it has to

be concluded today, not next week.

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Today, because next week we will

have the European Council, and in

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order to allow our partners to

prepare in the best way possible the

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meeting of the European Council, we

had to make the deal today.

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On the basis of the mandate given to

me, the European Commission has

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formally decided to recommend the

European Council that sufficient

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progress has now been made on the

strict terms of the divorce.

Theresa

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May also said the talks hadn't been

easy and had required to give and

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take on both sides.

We've been working extremely hard

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this week. As you have all seen it

hasn't been easy for either side.

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When we met on Monday we said a deal

was within reach. What we have

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arrived at today represents a

significant improvement and I am

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grateful to the negotiating teams

led by David Davis and Michel

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Barnier for their efforts. Getting

to this point has required give and

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take on both sides. And I believe

that the joint report being

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published is in the best interest of

the whole UK. I very much welcome

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the prospect of moving ahead to the

next phase, to talk about trade and

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security, and to discuss the

positive and ambitious future

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relationship that is in all of our

interests. I have consistently said

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that we want to build a special and

deep partnership with the EU as we

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have met the decision of the United

Kingdom to leave the EU by March

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2000 19. Doing so will provide

clarity and certainty to businesses

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in the UK and EU and crucially for

all of our citizens. -- by March

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2019.

The rights of 3 million EU

nationals living in the UK will be

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protected. As for the rights of the

1 million British people living in

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the EU. There was also joint

commitment to no heart border

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between Britain and the Republic of

Ireland. That was a sticking point.

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The British PM said she'd also

agreed a fair settlement for the

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British taxpayer. The previous deal

had been blocked by the DUP but its

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leader, Arlene Foster, said she was

pleased to see today's agreement

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will mean there will be no customs

barrier in the Irish Sea.

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There have been six substantive

changes. We are pleased to see those

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changes. For me it means there is no

red line down the Irish Sea. We have

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a very clear confirmation that the

entirety of the United Kingdom is

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leaving the EU, leaving the single

market, leaving the customs union,

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and I think that's an important

statement to have. And also vitally

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important, of course, the entirety

of the UK was kept in place. But

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there are still matters there we

would have liked to have seen

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clarified. We ran out of time,

essentially. We think we needed to

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go back again and talk about those

matters. But the PM has decided to

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go to Brussels in relation to this

text and she says she has done that

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in the national interest.

Theresa May and her Brexit

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secretary, David Davis, made their

overnight dash to Brussels while

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Downing Street were having their

Christmas party. What were the first

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signs of a breakthrough? Early this

morning, an aide to Jean-Claude

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Juncker tweeted this image of white

smoke. And this picture of Theresa

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May and David Davis having breakfast

with Jean-Claude Juncker and Michel

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Barnier then emerged. The big

question, what happens next? With me

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to talk about the deal are three

Westminster watchers.

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Marie Le Conte, who's

a journalist and commentator.

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Jessica Elgot, political

reporter at the Guardian.

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And the Specator

magazine's Katy Balls.

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Good to see you all. You have been

keeping up to speed with this

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morning 's developments. Good. Let's

get your response. The breakthrough

0:19:530:19:58

this morning, Monday, talks

collapse, embarrassing for Theresa

0:19:580:20:01

May, coming back with no deal. She

had to leave the Christmas party

0:20:010:20:05

yesterday to go to Brussels and have

managed -- they may have managed to

0:20:050:20:09

have come up with an agreement.

It's

good news for everybody. I'm an EU

0:20:090:20:14

national. So I'm quite relieved

things have been settled. But it was

0:20:140:20:18

very much an 11th hour deal and it

was expected, I think. Theresa May

0:20:180:20:23

will be pleased she has some

breathing space now.

I think Theresa

0:20:230:20:28

May can take a lot of ownership of

this deal. She seems to have taken

0:20:280:20:32

charge of it this week, especially

in negotiations with the DUP, and

0:20:320:20:37

David Davis, her Brexit secretary,

slightly on the sidelines over the

0:20:370:20:42

last few weeks. But she seems to

have come it's quite interesting how

0:20:420:20:45

Arlene Foster, the leader of the

DUP, says that it wasn't quite as

0:20:450:20:49

far as they wanted to go. But the PM

decided to go ahead and go to

0:20:490:20:55

Brussels and make the deal anyway,

even though there was still

0:20:550:20:58

differences between them. I think

that shows that the PM wanted to

0:20:580:21:03

show she isn't being held hostage by

the DUP.

It's also clear they had no

0:21:030:21:06

choice but to come up with a deal by

the end of today to be able to move

0:21:060:21:11

on to phase two next week. The

language we have been hearing this

0:21:110:21:14

morning is that sufficient progress

has been made to move onto the next

0:21:140:21:18

stage of talks, Katie?

I think

sufficient progress has been made.

0:21:180:21:23

But there are overhanging issues.

There was the slight warning from

0:21:230:21:27

the DUP that they are not completely

satisfied. But I don't think the

0:21:270:21:33

Conservative Party is satisfied

either, because this draft text

0:21:330:21:38

leapt out because talks broke down

on Monday, lots of questions now

0:21:380:21:42

hanging over what this trade

relationship Britain is seeking with

0:21:420:21:45

the EU is actually going to be. That

will be a more difficult stage.

0:21:450:21:48

There will be a bit of relief,

Christmas holiday is looking

0:21:480:21:51

brighter for number ten staff, but

ultimately the hard work is stuffed

0:21:510:21:55

beginning.

We will come onto the

next stage in a moment. But what

0:21:550:21:59

have the biggest compromises beam?

The talks haven't been easy, they

0:21:590:22:02

have been difficult for both sides,

and compromises have been made. --

0:22:020:22:10

the biggest compromises beam?

On the

UK side there will be a divorce

0:22:100:22:13

bill. We don't have the figure yet.

But it will be substantial. There is

0:22:130:22:19

that. On the UK side again, EU

nationals will be able to bring

0:22:190:22:25

family and unborn children will be

able to be born in the UK and have

0:22:250:22:30

similar rights they have at the

moment. The UK has budged on that.

0:22:300:22:37

On the EU side...

One of the key

compromises with a lot of the more

0:22:370:22:43

ardent Brexiteer MPs will want to

see is exactly the role of the ECJ.

0:22:430:22:50

That is something they wanted to

draw a line against. We won't ever

0:22:500:22:53

be subject to those laws ever again.

Now it seems there might be some

0:22:530:22:57

compromise at least for a limited

period that caught here will have to

0:22:570:23:02

pay some sort of regard to judgment

there. Weather it is EU citizens, or

0:23:020:23:06

maybe the future trade relationship.

-- whether it is EU citizens or

0:23:060:23:14

maybe the future trade relationship.

Which areas of life will it affect?

0:23:140:23:20

It could affect British businesses.

There could be ruling is different

0:23:200:23:26

kinds of regulations for British

businesses that might affect them.

0:23:260:23:28

All of that stuff needs to be worked

out when it comes to what the future

0:23:280:23:33

relationship will be and what the

trade terms, you know, what we end

0:23:330:23:36

up with... And it looks like that

may not even be sorted by the end of

0:23:360:23:41

the deal. Theresa May has said she

is seeking a transition period. I

0:23:410:23:46

think the EU will want to see in

that transition period, roughly

0:23:460:23:50

around two years, that we are

generally accepting the same kinds

0:23:500:23:53

of rules and regulations as the EU

has in order to continue to trade.

A

0:23:530:23:59

huge sigh of relief from many

people. Not least in Downing Street.

0:23:590:24:03

But this still needs endorsement

from 27 EU countries. Are we likely

0:24:030:24:08

to see any stumbling blocks, do you

think, Katie?

What we've noticed in

0:24:080:24:12

the past few days, after things got

awkward for the British government

0:24:120:24:17

on Monday, Brussels seem to really

want Theresa May to get sufficient

0:24:170:24:20

progress. There has been a

concentrated effort from figures...

0:24:200:24:26

There have been some quite vicious

briefings from Jean-Claude Juncker's

0:24:260:24:31

side, the disastrous dinners they

have had, for example, so I think

0:24:310:24:34

they wanted to help her out. Michel

Barnier and Donald Tusk want to do

0:24:340:24:38

this positive mood music. Everybody,

including the 27 members, want to

0:24:380:24:44

get it through to the trade talks.

But I think people will then be a

0:24:440:24:48

bit more frank about those talks.

Yes, lots of thank yous this morning

0:24:480:24:55

after everybody's speeches. Why is

it in their interest for talks to go

0:24:550:25:00

well and progress to be made on

Theresa May's behalf?

Uncertainty

0:25:000:25:06

isn't good for anyone. There is

certainly an argument that the EU

0:25:060:25:10

can sit back and wait to blink more

than Britain. Because lots of

0:25:100:25:14

businesses in Britain are working

out if they need to have contingency

0:25:140:25:17

plans. They wanted this reassurance

we are moving to trade and they have

0:25:170:25:22

that. It is not in anybody's

interest, because there is so much

0:25:220:25:25

trade going on between all of these

countries to keep things waiting.

0:25:250:25:32

Use all Leo Varadkar say that, as

well. He said we are keen to get a

0:25:320:25:38

conference and trade deal with the

UK. -- you all saw. It is in both

0:25:380:25:48

sides' interest to get that going.

The Tory party split over what they

0:25:480:25:53

want. How will the party be reacting

to today's compromise?

So far it's

0:25:530:26:00

been surprising, nobody has made any

noises, you know? Indicating they

0:26:000:26:06

are definitely unhappy with what

happened overnight. Even people like

0:26:060:26:10

Michael Gove who is the chief

Brexiteer in the Cabinet, I suppose.

0:26:100:26:15

They were all congratulating Theresa

May. So far it is fine. But as Katie

0:26:150:26:19

was saying earlier, it is a sign

that they know that most of the work

0:26:190:26:23

is yet to come and they may be

saving themselves for the battles of

0:26:230:26:31

2018 and 2019.

There will be some

probing by some of the Brexiteers on

0:26:310:26:34

the backbenches in the Tory party.

About some of the phrases which have

0:26:340:26:39

been agreed. There is talk about

this idea of alignment of

0:26:390:26:44

regulations in the UK.

What does all

of that mean? There has been a lot

0:26:440:26:48

of confusing language this week.

High alignment, low alignment,

0:26:480:26:53

regulatory divergences...

CHUCKLES

0:26:530:26:54

Explain, what does it all mean?

That

is something that will need to be

0:26:540:27:01

probed quite a lot in Parliament

over the coming days and weeks.

0:27:010:27:05

Essentially, when it came to

Northern Ireland, though, their

0:27:050:27:09

concern was on Monday and why they

didn't want that agreement to go

0:27:090:27:11

ahead was they didn't want to be

more closely aligned with the EU and

0:27:110:27:15

Dublin than the UK. The key thing we

heard this morning from Arlene

0:27:150:27:18

Foster was that they were given

assurances Northern Ireland, the

0:27:180:27:23

entire UK, would be leaving the EU,

including Northern Ireland.

0:27:230:27:28

Ultimately now, with all of this

talk of regulation, diverges which

0:27:280:27:32

confuses everybody, is how close,

basically, Britain will be to the EU

0:27:320:27:36

in terms of all of these

regulations, all of these things we

0:27:360:27:39

have to stick by. Do we have to

adhere to all of these rules of the

0:27:390:27:45

EU, and trading standards, etc? The

lots of members of the Conservative

0:27:450:27:49

Party they find it unappealing

because they like this idea of a

0:27:490:27:52

clean Brexit where they don't have

to mirror Brussels in any way. That

0:27:520:27:55

is where you will see some worries.

But also this disagreement. There

0:27:550:28:00

was a small number of backbenchers

who do not want to give any money to

0:28:000:28:04

Brussels. They are still not going

to be delighted that we have

0:28:040:28:07

sufficient progress in this way.

Theresa May has been keeping her

0:28:070:28:10

cards close to her chest. Almost

telling the hard Brexiteers and

0:28:100:28:15

their party what they want to hear,

telling other people what they want

0:28:150:28:19

to hear, but going into the next

phase she will have to talk about

0:28:190:28:22

exactly what she wants, what the

government wants, how does she go

0:28:220:28:27

about keeping everybody happy?

She

can't keep everybody happy.

0:28:270:28:30

CHUCKLES

It's impossible.

She needs to start

0:28:300:28:35

working out, who basically,

pragmatically, is the best person

0:28:350:28:38

for her to disappoint. Who will be

most pragmatic about it? And working

0:28:380:28:42

out how she can give different

people what they want. There isn't

0:28:420:28:46

solution that fixes all at the end

of the day.

One of the key things to

0:28:460:28:50

remember is for a lot of Brexiteers

what they want to do is leave the

0:28:500:28:54

EU. As long as she can still say

that we are not going to be attached

0:28:540:28:58

to the EU single market and Customs

union, we may end up with an

0:28:580:29:02

arrangement which is incredibly

similar to being in the single

0:29:020:29:05

market and Customs union. If she is

able to say definitively that that

0:29:050:29:09

link has been broken, I think at the

end of it all that is the way she

0:29:090:29:14

may be able to, just about, draw a

compromise together in the middle

0:29:140:29:18

somewhere.

Do you think phase two

will be as painful as phase one?

0:29:180:29:22

Probably more painful. Quite a lot

of factions, especially on the UK

0:29:220:29:28

site, have decided to play ball and

be relatively nice and helpful.

0:29:280:29:33

Because they know the future of the

relationship is really what matters.

0:29:330:29:37

That is when they will dig the

trenches and actually decide to say

0:29:370:29:41

to Theresa May, this is what we

want, these are our strong red

0:29:410:29:45

lines. The worst is probably yet to

come.

Let's finish on a couple of

0:29:450:29:50

e-mails. This is from Brian, well

done, you deserve a good rest,

0:29:500:29:54

Theresa May.

Another one says, I would like to

0:29:540:29:56

know what will now stop the EU

citizen is getting into England by

0:29:560:30:00

slipping through the back door as

there is no border.

0:30:000:30:03

Cathy says, what breakthrough, it is

all just words.

0:30:030:30:06

Thank you for your messages, keep

them coming in.

0:30:060:30:09

Still to come...

0:30:090:30:10

We'll hear from the Children's

Commissioner about what more

0:30:100:30:12

could be done to protect children

from domestic violence.

0:30:120:30:16

Jeremy Hunt tells us the government

must do more to support people with

0:30:160:30:20

mental health problems.

0:30:200:30:24

Time for the latest

news - here's Annita.

0:30:240:30:30

The headlines: There has been a

major breakthrough in the Brexit

0:30:300:30:34

talks. The European Commission now

says sufficient progress has been

0:30:340:30:38

made in the first stage of the

negotiations about citizens rights,

0:30:380:30:41

the Irish border, the size of the

so-called divorce bill that we can

0:30:410:30:45

move onto the second stage. That

will be about Britain's future

0:30:450:30:49

relationship with the EU and in

particular the shape of any deal on.

0:30:490:30:52

But in the last hour Michel Barnier

has warned there is still much to

0:30:520:30:57

do.

There is still much to be done

and negotiation on a number of

0:30:570:31:13

issues. We will need to have the

final version of the withdrawal

0:31:130:31:27

agreement ready by October 2018.

Less than one year.

0:31:270:31:36

A "day of rage" is being planned

by Palestinians angered by America's

0:31:360:31:38

recognition of Jerusalem

as the capital of Israel.

0:31:380:31:40

Around 30 demonstrators were injured

0:31:400:31:42

in clashes with Israeli forces

in the West Bank yesterday.

0:31:420:31:46

The US has warned Palestinians

against cancelling talks

0:31:460:31:51

with vice-President

Mike Pence, who will visit

0:31:510:31:53

the Middle East in less

than two weeks' time.

0:31:530:32:00

A student who died weeks

after starting at university

0:32:000:32:03

was failed by "every NHS

organisation that should have cared

0:32:030:32:05

for her", a review has found.

0:32:050:32:06

Averil Hart, who was 19,

died of a heart attack caused

0:32:060:32:09

by anorexia in 2012.

0:32:090:32:10

The Parliamentary and

Health Service Ombudsman

0:32:100:32:12

says her death could and should

have been prevented.

0:32:120:32:14

NHS England has apologised,

and says it's making "real progress"

0:32:140:32:16

with eating disorder services.

0:32:160:32:19

Snow, ice and windy conditions

are set to sweep across large

0:32:190:32:21

parts of the UK today.

0:32:210:32:24

Severe gales have already

caused disruption to air,

0:32:240:32:26

rail and ferry services.

0:32:260:32:29

Yellow "be aware" weather

warnings have been issued

0:32:290:32:31

across much of Scotland,

Northern Ireland, Wales

0:32:310:32:34

and north-west England -

with up to eight inches of snow

0:32:340:32:36

expected in some areas.

0:32:360:32:38

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

0:32:380:32:47

We will have a weather update coming

up just before ten o'clock this

0:32:470:32:50

morning.

0:32:500:32:51

Here's some sport now with Hugh.

0:32:510:32:54

Real Madrid footballer Cristiano

Ronaldo has been crowned the best

0:32:540:33:02

footballer in the world again, after

winning the prestigious Balon d'Or

0:33:020:33:05

award. It means he and Lionel Messi

have shared the last ten titles.

0:33:050:33:10

Arsene Wenger hailed the influence

of Jack Wilshere, as they won their

0:33:100:33:14

final Europa League game 6-0 against

BATE Borisov at what was a half full

0:33:140:33:20

Emirates stadium. Everton were

already out but they did beat

0:33:200:33:22

Apollon Limassol 3-0 in Cyprus.

Ademola Lookman scored twice. And

0:33:220:33:29

finally, Fife winner Ernie

O'Sullivan said he felt sorry for 20

0:33:290:33:32

rolled Sunny Akani from Thailand

after a O'Sullivan came from behind

0:33:320:33:36

three times to reach the

quarterfinals of the U:K.'s new

0:33:360:33:38

championship. That's the sport for

now. We will be back with more just

0:33:380:33:45

after ten o'clock if

0:33:450:33:47

The Children's Commissioner

for England is calling on the prime

0:33:470:33:50

if is calling on the prime

0:33:500:33:51

minister to put protection in place

for every child who is living

0:33:510:33:54

in a house with domestic violence.

0:33:540:33:57

The latest statistics show another

rise, year on year in the number

0:33:570:34:00

of domestic violence incidents

police are dealing with,

0:34:000:34:02

in England and Wales.

0:34:020:34:03

The BBC has had access

to Northumbria Police and charity

0:34:030:34:05

Wearside Women In Need,

to see how they respond to emergency

0:34:050:34:08

domestic violence calls

where children are involved

0:34:080:34:10

and how they're supported.

0:34:100:34:11

Jeremy Cooke's report starts

with Claire's story, which some

0:34:110:34:14

viewers may find disturbing.

0:34:140:34:23

Jack was the eldest, he was 12.

0:34:230:34:24

He was a musician.

0:34:240:34:26

He was just a lovely

quiet, gentle boy.

0:34:260:34:32

Paul was cheeky, full of confidence.

0:34:320:34:37

A good sportsman.

0:34:370:34:38

He was a runner.

0:34:380:34:39

Personal best was

always in his mind.

0:34:390:34:47

Claire Throssel, proud mother,

domestic abuse survivor.

0:34:470:34:54

She left the man who had controlled

and bullied her and her

0:34:540:34:57

children for years.

0:34:570:34:59

We've met Claire on this programme

before, and now we hear more

0:34:590:35:02

about her unforgettable,

tragic story of what happened

0:35:020:35:06

as her two boys were caught

up in a world of fear.

0:35:060:35:09

They were frightened of their dad.

0:35:090:35:13

And they were frightened for me and

very protective of me and worried.

0:35:130:35:20

Despite everything, the boy's father

had a right to see them.

0:35:200:35:25

Claire sensed the growing

danger, but was powerless

0:35:250:35:26

to stop what happened next.

0:35:260:35:30

There was a policeman

stood at the door and I

0:35:300:35:32

said, "What's he done?

0:35:320:35:33

He's done it, hasn't he?

0:35:330:35:34

He's done something to them."

0:35:340:35:40

At the 999 call desks,

domestic abuse is a constant theme.

0:35:400:35:44

There is a domestic,

with a report of somebody having

0:35:440:35:47

been stabbed with a screwdriver...

0:35:470:35:48

Calls for help 24/7.

0:35:480:35:57

has she got any children...?

0:35:570:35:59

The immediate task -

to get the facts.

0:35:590:36:01

And if a child is present

it is a maximum priority case.

0:36:010:36:04

Said her partner, or her ex-partner

threatened to beat her

0:36:040:36:06

and her 12-year-old child up.

0:36:060:36:07

So we're going to get somebody

up there straightaway.

0:36:070:36:09

Children can and do

suffer direct abuse.

0:36:090:36:14

But they also witness violence,

and there's a growing recognition

0:36:140:36:17

of the long-term damage.

0:36:170:36:18

There's lots of evidence

about adverse childhood experience

0:36:180:36:21

of which this is the most common -

domestic abuse - and what a long

0:36:210:36:26

impact it can have

on people's ability to learn,

0:36:260:36:28

their ability to make

0:36:280:36:29

relationships, perhaps

turning to crime, because

0:36:290:36:30

they have chaotic lives.

0:36:300:36:35

I've had black eyes,

I've had elbows and knees

0:36:350:36:37

and my head would be

bashed off something.

0:36:370:36:39

Jane finally fled after she and her

kids endured almost five

0:36:390:36:42

years of domestic abuse.

0:36:420:36:44

We've changed her name to protect

her and to protect the children.

0:36:440:36:48

I see the massive effect

it's had on them.

0:36:480:36:54

You would be in the middle of having

this fight and you'd be

0:36:540:37:00

looking at your kids,

you'd have eye contact

0:37:000:37:02

with your kids, and you could see

the fear and them crying and stuff

0:37:020:37:05

and you wouldn't know what to do,

because you can't get

0:37:050:37:08

out of the situation.

0:37:080:37:09

And I just felt myself

like apologising to them a lot

0:37:090:37:12

and I didn't know how to deal

with it and I hated the fact

0:37:120:37:15

that they were so confused by it.

0:37:150:37:17

We have a female and he's

hit her on the back.

0:37:170:37:19

After the 999 calls, the response.

0:37:190:37:21

Northumbria Police on the case.

0:37:210:37:23

Every year across the country,

the number of domestic abuse

0:37:230:37:27

incidents is rising,

and this year stands at 645,000.

0:37:270:37:32

We're on our way to

a domestic violence case.

0:37:320:37:35

Every incident like this

is treated very seriously,

0:37:350:37:38

but when there are children

involved, it all takes on an even

0:37:380:37:42

greater sense of urgency.

0:37:420:37:49

As well as the emergency calls,

there are also routine checks.

0:37:490:37:53

Tonight, the police are visiting

Melissa, along with a specialist

0:37:530:37:56

from Wearside Women in Need.

0:37:560:38:01

So, if we give you a call...?

0:38:010:38:02

There are no kids here.

0:38:020:38:05

Melissa felt she had

no choice but to give

0:38:050:38:09

up her new-born baby for adoption,

because she was trapped

0:38:090:38:13

in an abusive, controlling

relationship - domestic abuse,

0:38:130:38:15

breaking the bond

between mother and child.

0:38:150:38:19

It's cost you your baby and it's

cost your baby his mother.

0:38:190:38:22

I'll never see my baby again.

0:38:220:38:26

I'm in so much pain.

0:38:260:38:32

It's ruined me life, basically.

0:38:320:38:35

Do you think about your baby?

0:38:350:38:36

Every day.

0:38:360:38:39

He's gone.

0:38:390:38:43

The biggest mistake

I ever done in my life.

0:38:430:38:47

Anything you need for your flat that

I could help you with?

0:38:470:38:52

No.

0:38:520:38:53

Melissa is trying to

turn things around.

0:38:530:38:55

She's got a job and wants

to look to the future.

0:38:550:38:57

With the ongoing support

of Wearside Women in Need.

0:38:570:39:00

That was really sad, wasn't it?

0:39:000:39:05

Yes, absolutely, she had no choice

but to choose her partner over

0:39:050:39:09

the child before she even had

a chance to bond or be

0:39:090:39:11

with that child.

0:39:110:39:14

For kids caught up in domestic

abuse, there's always damage,

0:39:140:39:19

but for Claire, as she was rushed

to Sheffield Children's Hospital, it

0:39:190:39:22

became a matter of life and death.

0:39:220:39:27

I walked up to the bed

and they stopped the CPR

0:39:270:39:31

and I held him in my arms.

0:39:310:39:33

I held him so tight.

0:39:330:39:37

And my tears were in his hair,

his hair was damp and

0:39:370:39:40

then his eyes closed.

0:39:400:39:41

Paul was gone.

0:39:410:39:46

And Claire became aware of another

bed, doctors fighting to save Jack.

0:39:460:39:51

Their abusive, violent father had

also died in the fire

0:39:510:39:53

that he deliberately set

after trapping

0:39:530:39:56

the boys in the attic.

0:39:560:39:58

The boys couldn't get out.

0:39:580:40:03

But Jack tried.

0:40:030:40:08

And he'd managed to get Paul

to the edge of the attic,

0:40:080:40:11

but he'd fallen through into

the flames below.

0:40:110:40:14

And when the firemen picked him up,

he said, "My dad this did

0:40:140:40:18

and he did it on purpose."

0:40:180:40:19

A family destroyed.

0:40:190:40:22

But still more agony to come.

0:40:220:40:27

I went with Jack to Manchester

Burns Unit and he went

0:40:270:40:30

straight into theatre.

0:40:300:40:36

Jack fell asleep in my arms

after a five-day battle

0:40:360:40:38

in Manchester Children's Hospital.

0:40:380:40:44

Early intervention can help

children and save lives.

0:40:440:40:50

This is Operation Encompass

and at Northumbria Police HQ it's

0:40:500:40:54

the first task every morning.

0:40:540:40:59

A specialist team scans

through all the overnight

0:40:590:41:02

reports of domestic abuse

for cases involving children.

0:41:020:41:07

This is an 11-year-old child that's

been present during a domestic

0:41:070:41:09

between mum and dad.

0:41:090:41:10

It's all about communication.

0:41:100:41:13

Operation Encompass has now been

picked up by more than half

0:41:130:41:17

of the UK police forces

and they immediately tell

0:41:170:41:25

schools what's happened,

so that children can be supported

0:41:250:41:27

from the moment they arrive

in the classroom that morning.

0:41:270:41:32

The first thing we will do is,

we always make sure we greet that

0:41:320:41:36

child with a smile and if they have

not got school uniform on,

0:41:360:41:39

we can offer them school uniform,

we check that they have had

0:41:390:41:42

breakfast, we just check

that they're alright.

0:41:420:41:43

A simple phone call

can make the biggest

0:41:430:41:45

of differences to a child.

0:41:450:41:46

And you know, if we're not

about making their lives better,

0:41:460:41:49

then what are we about?

0:41:490:41:50

These children are among

the one in seven in the UK

0:41:500:41:54

who experience domestic abuse.

0:41:540:41:59

Here they've been taken

into refuge with their mothers.

0:41:590:42:01

And now there are calls

for for consistent, multi-agency

0:42:010:42:04

response to domestic abuse -

nationwide and driven from the top.

0:42:040:42:08

I would like the Prime Minister

to make this a priority

0:42:080:42:12

for the whole of government

and actually send out strong

0:42:120:42:15

messages and a framework

for government and public services

0:42:150:42:18

throughout the land that

children need the help now,

0:42:180:42:20

they can't wait for that support.

0:42:200:42:22

Claire now spends her life

campaigning with Women's Aid.

0:42:220:42:30

They've recorded 20 cases since 2005

where children have been

0:42:300:42:33

killed by fathers already involved

in domestic abuse, but still granted

0:42:330:42:36

access to their children.

0:42:360:42:42

It's a silent killer.

0:42:420:42:44

Domestic abuse and coercive control

is something that's not

0:42:440:42:46

visible on the outside,

it destroys people,

0:42:460:42:47

it destroys lives.

0:42:470:42:49

It destroys the whole being.

0:42:490:42:56

And it needs to be

recognised and stopped.

0:42:560:43:05

The campaign is called Child First,

and it demands that family courts

0:43:050:43:08

put children's safety at the heart

of every decision.

0:43:080:43:12

A demand Claire makes

in the name of her boys -

0:43:120:43:14

her Paul and her Jack.

0:43:140:43:20

I promised no other parent

would have to do what I did and hold

0:43:200:43:24

a child in their arms as they died,

knowing it's at the hands

0:43:240:43:28

of somebody who should love them

and protect them the most.

0:43:280:43:34

One family's tragedy -

bleak testimony that the lives

0:43:340:43:36

destroyed by domestic abuse include

the lives of children.

0:43:360:43:45

If you want help or advice with any

of the issues raised in that report,

0:43:450:43:48

you can find support

on our Actionline website.

0:43:480:43:51

Just search for BBC Actionline.

0:43:510:43:58

Coming up... We will hear how Health

Secretary Jeremy Hunt plans to help

0:43:580:44:02

young people with mental health

problems.

0:44:020:44:06

Let's get more on Theresa May

and the EU's Jean-Claude Juncker

0:44:060:44:12

saying that a Brexit

breakthrough deal paves way for

0:44:120:44:14

future trade talks.

0:44:140:44:21

"Sufficient progress" has been

made in the first stage

0:44:210:44:24

of the Brexit negotiations,

allowing talks to move

0:44:240:44:26

onto the subject of

trade and transition -

0:44:260:44:27

that's the news breaking

from Brussels this morning.

0:44:270:44:29

Michael Gove, the Environment

Secretary, has given his reaction.

0:44:290:44:32

This achievement is a significant

achievement for the Prime Minister

0:44:320:44:35

and it helps guarantee the rights of

EU citizens in the UK. It will be UK

0:44:350:44:39

courts which safeguard those rights

are. In a limited number of cases,

0:44:390:44:43

for a limited period of time come

they can if they wish to, if there

0:44:430:44:47

is a point of law which is

ambiguous, go to the European Court

0:44:470:44:51

of Justice for help in resolving the

issue. But it is important to

0:44:510:44:54

Beckett now is that this is a time

limited and very specific exemptions

0:44:540:44:57

and it is the UK courts in the

driving seat.

If there is no deal

0:44:570:45:03

regarding the relationship between

Northern Ireland and the Republic,

0:45:030:45:05

then this document sets out that

there will be a maintenance of a

0:45:050:45:12

full alignment between the whole of

the UK and the EU, with rules of the

0:45:120:45:16

single market and Customs union -

again, from the perspective of

0:45:160:45:22

someone who has supported Brexit

throughout, that seems to be a

0:45:220:45:25

massive concession and at least a

massive risk, because if a deal

0:45:250:45:29

isn't done, then we fall back into

the single market and customs union

0:45:290:45:34

which you have been opposed to all

along?

0:45:340:45:40

We are going to be outside the

single market and outside the

0:45:400:45:43

customs union because of this deal.

In the Republic of Ireland and in

0:45:430:45:48

Northern Ireland there has been so

much progress. That means we will

0:45:480:45:52

continue to work together that there

is no return to a hard border. The

0:45:520:45:59

alignment between the Republic and

Northern Ireland will mean it is

0:45:590:46:02

able to achieve its goals. There

will not be any weakening of the

0:46:020:46:06

position of Northern Ireland within

the UK.

Can you tell us now with

0:46:060:46:10

full confidence Britain will not be

the customs union come the end of

0:46:100:46:14

the negotiations?

It is clear the PM

has made it a priority to ensure we

0:46:140:46:19

are outside the customs union and

outside the single market, so we can

0:46:190:46:23

set our own rules and sign our own

trade deals. We want a deep and

0:46:230:46:26

competence of free trade agreement

with the EU. It is in all of our

0:46:260:46:31

interests to secure that great trade

deal.

This document will be

0:46:310:46:35

interpreted in wildly different ways

by those in Brussels, and by those

0:46:350:46:39

in your government, and those

supporting your government,

0:46:390:46:42

therefore despite the agreement that

has been reached, I mean... It is

0:46:420:46:47

fair to say that there are huge

challenges going forward. Yes, there

0:46:470:46:52

has been an agreement on this first

phase to get through to the second

0:46:520:46:55

phase, but, you know, things will be

interpreted wildly differently, and

0:46:550:46:59

therefore there are big challenges

ahead.

There was always scope for

0:46:590:47:03

people to be cynical. But this is a

significant achievement, I think.

0:47:030:47:07

Because it means the right of EU

citizens are protected in the UK.

0:47:070:47:12

The rights of UK citizens are

protected in the EU. We have an

0:47:120:47:16

agreement that no EU country will be

out of pocket as a result of our

0:47:160:47:19

departure. But there will be more

money for NHS, schools, and housing

0:47:190:47:23

in this country as a result of us

leaving the EU. And we can get onto

0:47:230:47:27

talking about that free trade deal.

It's a significant step forward, and

0:47:270:47:32

one that the overwhelming majority

of people in parliament and in the

0:47:320:47:35

country will welcome.

Looking

forward to the trade deal do you

0:47:350:47:40

accept the broad principle that from

the EU's perspective a trade deal

0:47:400:47:44

for Britain in the future has to be

at least slightly less. That has to

0:47:440:47:53

be a principle the European Union

takes to the negotiation.

We want a

0:47:530:47:58

free trade deal, one which gives

tariff free restrictions access to

0:47:580:48:03

goods and services into the European

market. At this stage it would be

0:48:030:48:07

wrong for me to try to guess exactly

how every single aspect of that

0:48:070:48:11

trade deal will work. But one thing

is clear, we start from a position

0:48:110:48:16

where our regulations already

aligned, our markets are already

0:48:160:48:19

integrated, so I think we can have

the best free trade deal that has

0:48:190:48:24

yet been designed between Britain

and the EU. The goodwill is there if

0:48:240:48:29

we build on it.

Finally, should

Parliament be consulted on the broad

0:48:290:48:33

principles set out in the document?

It's vital to involve Parliament at

0:48:330:48:39

every stage. The Prime Minister has

been scrupulous to make sure the

0:48:390:48:42

House of Commons plays its part in

recognising where Britain plays its

0:48:420:48:49

part.

0:48:490:48:51

I don't think many people would

disagree with that.

0:49:020:49:05

The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt has

admitted that his Government must

0:49:050:49:08

to do more to help people

will mental health problems.

0:49:080:49:10

Mr Hunt says there are "bottlenecks"

in parts of the England

0:49:100:49:13

that must improve.

0:49:130:49:14

He was responding to

hearing the story of Bex,

0:49:140:49:16

who suffers with a range of serious

mental health conditions.

0:49:160:49:19

She was featured in a BBC Radio 1

Newsbeat documentary earlier this

0:49:190:49:22

week called My Mind And Me.

0:49:220:49:30

Mp3 player, phone...

0:49:300:49:32

I have been diagnosed

with depression, social anxiety

0:49:320:49:34

disorder, obsessive compulsive

disorder, bipolar,

0:49:340:49:35

borderline personality

disorder and also insomnia.

0:49:350:49:39

And that window's locked.

0:49:390:49:42

I call my anxiety disorder

"the anxious hog monster",

0:49:420:49:44

because that's how it feels.

0:49:440:49:47

My chest is compressed and it feels

like your heart's pounding

0:49:470:49:50

and your hands are shaking.

0:49:500:49:51

Locked.

0:49:510:49:52

When I have been leaving the flat,

it takes me longer with my OCD

0:49:520:49:55

as well and my anxiety.

0:49:550:50:01

Bex's story, and the others

in that documentary,

0:50:010:50:03

prompted a huge reaction

0:50:030:50:04

earlier in the week.

0:50:040:50:05

Jim Connolly from Newsbeat is

with me to talk about what happened

0:50:050:50:08

when he took the story

to Jeremy Hunt.

0:50:080:50:14

What happened when you took the

story to Jeremy Hunt?

Like you said,

0:50:140:50:18

we got a massive reaction from our

audience. People really connected to

0:50:180:50:21

it. They were candid and honest. It

was one person in particular, Bex,

0:50:210:50:29

who we saw there, people really

connected with her, he thought she

0:50:290:50:32

was speaking so openly and

powerfully. We decided that that the

0:50:320:50:36

secretary of State. -- we decided to

put that to the secretary of state.

0:50:360:50:44

Compared to the scale

of what we want to do,

0:50:440:50:47

which is to be much better

at being there for people

0:50:470:50:49

going through the agony that Bex

is doing through, there is a long

0:50:490:50:53

way to go.

0:50:530:50:54

In the majority of cases,

mental health problems start very

0:50:540:50:56

young and that's why it is

so important that people have the

0:50:560:50:59

confidence and courage to come

forward, because then something can

0:50:590:51:01

be done about it.

0:51:010:51:02

But to do that we've

really got to ramp up the

0:51:020:51:05

services available and what we need

to do is have a much stronger

0:51:050:51:08

partnership between the NHS

and schools and you know if we had

0:51:080:51:11

been able to do that when Bex

was at secondary school, who knows,

0:51:110:51:14

we could have nipped that problem

in the bud and Bex wouldn't be

0:51:140:51:17

having to go through

the horrific challenges

0:51:170:51:19

that she is going through now.

0:51:190:51:21

So it is really that's the purpose.

0:51:210:51:23

One of the stories she told us

was particularly shocking and she's

0:51:230:51:29

asked us to show you it,

so I would like to show

0:51:290:51:32

you her story and this is one

incident that's caused her

0:51:320:51:35

quite a lot of distress.

0:51:350:51:36

There was a long wait,

so I waited in hospital

0:51:360:51:39

for two and a half hours,

just to see someone and they took me

0:51:390:51:42

to a mental health clinic and I felt

quite suicidal and just impulsively

0:51:420:51:46

dangerous, so I kept saying,

"I'm not safe" and I kept getting

0:51:460:51:48

panicky and I couldn't get my breath

back and my chest was really tight.

0:51:480:51:52

So then they were like,

"We can't give you the medication

0:51:520:51:54

because it would have to be seen

by a doctor and there's no

0:51:540:51:57

doctors at that time."

0:51:570:51:59

And then I got back home at like 3

in the morning and then two days

0:51:590:52:02

later had another bad panic attack.

0:52:020:52:04

Back to this clinic.

0:52:040:52:07

They tried to admit me again,

but there were no beds.

0:52:070:52:11

She had a mental health crisis,

she was suicidal, she was brought

0:52:110:52:15

She had a mental health crisis,

she was suicidal, she was worried

0:52:170:52:20

for her own safety and she was sent

home to her house on her own at 3

0:52:200:52:24

o'clock in the morning.

0:52:240:52:25

Then the problems continued.

0:52:250:52:26

And there was no bed for her.

0:52:260:52:28

A lot of people say it is all very

well spotting the signs,

0:52:280:52:31

but once you have spotted the signs

there isn't the help

0:52:310:52:34

out there for people.

0:52:340:52:35

Well, there needs to be more help

for sure and the thing that she

0:52:350:52:38

talked about in there, there

were some positives and negatives.

0:52:380:52:42

I think the negatives

you're absolutely right.

0:52:420:52:43

The positive is that she did

have a crisis team at

0:52:430:52:46

her local hospital.

0:52:460:52:47

Those have only actually started

in the last three years.

0:52:470:52:49

We also have more beds available

than we've had before, but

0:52:490:52:52

I won't pretend there aren't parts

of the country where there are

0:52:520:52:55

real bottlenecks.

0:52:550:52:56

I think the broader point

here is we've had a

0:52:560:52:58

health system for many

years where if you break

0:52:580:53:00

a leg or cut your arm,

you can go to an A&E and it's

0:53:000:53:04

sorted out on the spot.

0:53:040:53:05

But if you have a mental

health crisis, it isn't.

0:53:050:53:10

And we changed the law five years

ago and we said, no, you need

0:53:100:53:13

to treat mental health

equally to physical health.

0:53:130:53:15

And that means that you have

got to have access to

0:53:150:53:18

crisis teams 24/7 and I hope

they will do a lot better job than

0:53:180:53:21

evidently happened for Bex,

although I'm sure the professionals

0:53:210:53:23

involved were trying their very

hardest, but she is right to say

0:53:230:53:26

that this is something

that we are ramping up and it's

0:53:260:53:29

going to take a little bit of time.

0:53:290:53:38

The Government has repeated this

message over the last ten years,

0:53:380:53:40

we have had ten years

of your Government, that mental

0:53:400:53:43

health should be treated

the same as physical health.

0:53:430:53:45

You have been health

Secretary for five years,

0:53:450:53:47

when is it actually going to happen?

0:53:470:53:49

It's not happening everywhere,

it is happening in some places.

0:53:490:53:52

It does take time and I don't

want to pretend this is

0:53:520:53:55

something - you can't change this

by the Queen putting her signature

0:53:550:53:57

on an Act of Parliament.

0:53:570:54:00

You have got got to train

thousands and thousands

0:54:000:54:02

of additional professionals -

psychiatrists, psychologists,

0:54:020:54:04

talking therapists and mental

health nurses and so on.

0:54:040:54:09

We have got about 4,500 more

people working in the

0:54:090:54:12

mental health system compared

to when we came to office and about

0:54:120:54:15

1,000 more people are getting

help every single day.

0:54:150:54:18

People are much more

open about mental health

0:54:180:54:20

conditions than they were before.

0:54:200:54:21

That is a really positive thing.

0:54:210:54:23

But it does mean

there is an awful lot

0:54:230:54:25

more work for us to do in the NHS.

0:54:250:54:27

Sometimes if you're working

in the NHS it feels

0:54:270:54:30

like we are racing just

to stand still.

0:54:300:54:34

But I would never pretend

that there isn't a whole lot more

0:54:340:54:36

we can do and every time I meet

people like Bex, I'm reminded that,

0:54:360:54:40

yes, we may have made progress,

but there is a whole lot more

0:54:400:54:43

we need to do.

0:54:430:54:49

What is the wider political

reaction?

We wanted to focus this on

0:54:490:54:54

people's personal stories but there

is a political angle to everything.

0:54:540:54:57

This is a highly political subject.

Labour say this is another example

0:54:570:55:00

of massive cut in the NHS and mental

health funding is one of the areas

0:55:000:55:05

being cut to plug gaps elsewhere.

They say they would ring fenced

0:55:050:55:08

mental health funding. We spoke to

the Prime Minister earlier in the

0:55:080:55:11

year which was announcing another

scheme to spot the early signs of

0:55:110:55:14

mental health and she admitted to

us, she said, look, dispatch across

0:55:140:55:18

the country, it is different in

different areas. If you have a

0:55:180:55:22

crisis in one area, what happens to

you will be different. That has been

0:55:220:55:26

proven in what we have seen. And the

reaction we have got. Look at Bex,

0:55:260:55:32

she had a difficult situation, and

that was because in her area it was

0:55:320:55:36

patchy, had she been somewhere else

it might have been much better.

0:55:360:55:38

That's the issue. Once you are in

the system it's pretty good, but it

0:55:380:55:43

is getting into the system, which,

for some people can be difficult.

0:55:430:55:51

Bex's story will be featuring today

on radio one. The Radio 1 iPlayer

0:55:510:55:56

page has the My Mind And Me

documentary in full on there. It is

0:55:560:56:03

worth a watch. People talk candidly

about their problems. On the news

0:56:030:56:08

channel tomorrow at 10:30am there is

a version going on out. I would urge

0:56:080:56:12

you to watch it because these people

are fantastic.

And a pod cast today.

0:56:120:56:17

Well worth listening to and

watching. Thank you very much. Back

0:56:170:56:22

to Brexit. We can bring you a tweet

from Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

0:56:220:56:26

in response to what has been

described as a breakthrough in

0:56:260:56:29

Brexit negotiations this morning.

0:56:290:56:30

described as a breakthrough in

Brexit negotiations this morning. He

0:56:300:56:33

says congratulations to the PM for

her determination in getting today's

0:56:330:56:37

deal. We now aim to forge a deep and

special partnership with our

0:56:370:56:42

European friends and allies, while

remaining true to the referendum

0:56:420:56:45

result. Taking back control of our

laws, money, and borders the

0:56:450:56:50

result. Taking back control of our

laws, money, and borders the whole

0:56:500:56:50

of the UK. Boris Johnson there on

twitter.

0:56:500:56:53

Let's get the latest weather update.

0:56:530:56:57

Lots of talk about snow this

weekend,

0:56:570:56:59

Lots of talk about snow this

weekend, what is the forecast?

0:56:590:57:01

We've had a lot already today.

Through the weekend, some of us will

0:57:010:57:06

see more. Let me show you some of

our lovely weather watchers pictures

0:57:060:57:09

taken this morning.

0:57:090:57:10

Look at the depth of that snow in

County Down. We have some lying snow

0:57:140:57:19

here, a lovely dog in the

foreground. As we keep our journey

0:57:190:57:23

going throughout the country, this

picture taken in Shropshire. Again,

0:57:230:57:26

you can see it is a beautiful scene,

almost Christmas card material. This

0:57:260:57:32

was Worcester this morning, showing

the snow falling here, as well.

0:57:320:57:37

Staying in Worcestershire, again, we

have lying snow on the ground. It

0:57:370:57:40

isn't terribly deep, but we are

looking at snow showers through the

0:57:400:57:44

course of today. This one in Argyll

and Bute. This is just the way it

0:57:440:57:49

has been shot, the camera angle,

making it look much bigger. And in

0:57:490:57:53

Aviemore, we have lying snow here,

it has been snowing quite steadily

0:57:530:57:56

as we've gone through the course of

the morning. To give you an idea of

0:57:560:58:00

the depths we have, the lying snow,

Northern Ireland currently ten

0:58:000:58:04

centimetres. And so on...

0:58:040:58:09

If you are travelling, bear that in

mind. There is the risk of ice. A

0:58:160:58:20

cold start to the day. This is where

the snow showers have been falling.

0:58:200:58:24

At the moment, we have a line coming

in through the North Channel, across

0:58:240:58:28

the Irish Sea, and in towards the

Midlands. That will keep going as we

0:58:280:58:32

go through the next few hours into

tonight and also into tomorrow.

0:58:320:58:39

Windy conditions will be left behind

once that moves away. It is a cold

0:58:390:58:42

wind blowing in from the north-west.

Blowing all of these showers into

0:58:420:58:46

the North and west. These are the

lying snow showers. They will

0:58:460:58:50

settle. England we will see further

snow showers, possibly over into the

0:58:500:58:55

east, and the south coast. We do not

expect those to settle. This

0:58:550:58:59

afternoon across Wales, we continue

with the snow showers. We also have

0:58:590:59:03

them across Northern Ireland. Still

windy, but in between them all there

0:59:030:59:07

will be sunshine. Across Scotland we

have the snow showers. Here we had a

0:59:070:59:11

lot of the strong winds, so we will

get blizzards and drifting snow.

0:59:110:59:16

Atrocious travelling conditions.

Away from that, dry conditions down

0:59:160:59:19

into the south of Scotland, and also

across northern England, away from

0:59:190:59:22

the West, all the way down through

East Anglia into Kent. We could see

0:59:220:59:26

the odd wintry flurry getting

towards the east and south-east. We

0:59:260:59:30

don't expect it to settle. We can

also seek snow flurries down towards

0:59:300:59:34

the south coast, perhaps a bit more

at times across the moors. Do this

0:59:340:59:40

evening and overnight, snow showers

continue, more or less the same

0:59:400:59:43

distribution. The wind eases a

touch. It'll be a cold night. Lots

0:59:430:59:46

of dry weather, clear skies, and

where we have the damp surfaces

0:59:460:59:50

there is the risk of ice in the

north and the West. Under clearer

0:59:500:59:54

skies, temperatures will drop, these

are indicative of towns and cities.

0:59:540:59:57

But where we have lying snow in the

north of Scotland feel colder than

0:59:571:00:00

that. Into tomorrow morning, a cold

and frosty start. Still some snow

1:00:001:00:06

showers around. Again, in the same

kind of areas. We will not see all

1:00:061:00:11

of -- we will not all see the snow

showers. Tomorrow, dry weather, a

1:00:111:00:16

crisp, Winter's, sunny day.

Temperatures, nothing to write home

1:00:161:00:20

about. It'll feel cold if you are

stepping out. This one has been

1:00:201:00:25

giving us a headache because as it

comes in it will bring in rain, and

1:00:251:00:28

on its leading edge it will bring

snow. At the moment we think

1:00:281:00:32

Northern Ireland, Wales, part of the

Midlands, just north of the M4

1:00:321:00:35

corridor heading to the east, but

that could change so keep updated

1:00:351:00:38

with the weather forecast.

1:00:381:00:43

The deadlock is broken in the first

stage of the Brexit talks,

1:00:431:00:46

allowing negotiations to move

on to the subject of trade.

1:00:461:00:49

Theresa May flew to Brussels early

this morning to agree the deal,

1:00:491:00:52

which includes protecting the rights

of EU citizens here and a million

1:00:521:00:55

British expats as well as no hard

border with Ireland.

1:00:551:01:05

Getting to this point has required

give and take on both sides, and I

1:01:061:01:11

believe that the joint report being

published is in the best interests

1:01:111:01:14

of the whole of the UK. I very much

welcome the prospect of moving ahead

1:01:141:01:18

to the next phase to talk about

trade and security and to discuss

1:01:181:01:23

the positive and ambitious future

relationship that is in all of our

1:01:231:01:26

interests.

1:01:261:01:28

We'll get reaction from migrants

workers, living here in the UK.

1:01:281:01:30

We have a special report

on the impact on children

1:01:301:01:36

of living in a family

where there's domestic violence.

1:01:361:01:42

I see the massive effect it has had

on them. You would be in the middle

1:01:421:01:45

of having a fight and you would have

eye contact with the kids and you

1:01:451:01:48

could see the fear and you would not

know what to do because you could

1:01:481:01:51

not get out of the situation...

1:01:511:01:54

We'll hear the Children's

Commissioner's proposals shortly.

1:01:541:01:59

It is one of the most-eagerly

awaited fixtures in

1:01:591:02:02

the football calendar -

1:02:021:02:03

this Sunday's Manchester derby sees

United play arch rivals

1:02:031:02:05

City at Old Trafford.

1:02:051:02:06

We'll hear from some fans hoping

for very different results.

1:02:061:02:10

Good morning.

1:02:101:02:12

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of todays news.

1:02:121:02:15

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news.

1:02:151:02:21

Good morning.

1:02:211:02:22

There's been a major breakthrough

in the Brexit talks.

1:02:221:02:24

The European Commission now says

"sufficient progress" has been

1:02:241:02:26

made in the first stage

of the negotiations -

1:02:261:02:28

about citizen's rights,

the Irish border and the size

1:02:281:02:31

of the so-called divorce

bill - that we can move

1:02:311:02:33

on to the second stagE.

1:02:331:02:34

on to the second stage.

1:02:341:02:35

That'll be about Britain's future

relationship with the EU -

1:02:351:02:38

and in particular, the shape of any

deal on trade.

1:02:381:02:41

Speaking this morning,

Theresa May said she would write

1:02:411:02:43

to the people of Northern Ireland

to set out the deal, following this

1:02:431:02:46

week's sticking point.

1:02:461:02:50

In Northern Ireland, we will

guarantee that there will be no hard

1:02:501:02:52

border. And we will uphold the

Belfast agreement. And in doing so,

1:02:521:02:56

we will continue to preserve the

constitutional and economic

1:02:561:03:00

integrity of the United Kingdom. We

have taken time this week to

1:03:001:03:06

strengthen and clarify this part of

the agreement, following discussions

1:03:061:03:10

with unionists in Northern Ireland

and across the UK. The Taoiseach,

1:03:101:03:15

Leo Varadkar, and I spoke yesterday

and we have both committed that

1:03:151:03:18

there should be no barriers either

north or south or east or west, and

1:03:181:03:21

I believe this agreement delivers

that.

1:03:211:03:27

Donald Tusk, President

of the EU Council,

1:03:271:03:30

said he was pleased with today's

developments but warned

1:03:301:03:32

there was still so much to do.

1:03:321:03:34

Let us remember that the most

difficult challenge is still ahead.

1:03:341:03:39

We all know that breaking up is

hard. But breaking up and building a

1:03:391:03:45

new relation is much harder. Since

the brusque sick referendum, a year

1:03:451:03:52

and a half has passed. -- since the

Brexit referendum. So much time has

1:03:521:03:57

been devoted to the easier part of

the task. And now, to negotiate a

1:03:571:04:02

transition arrangement and the

framework for our future

1:04:021:04:09

relationship, we have de facto less

than a year.

1:04:091:04:14

A "day of rage" is being planned

by Palestinians angered by America's

1:04:141:04:17

recognition of Jerusalem

as the capital of Israel.

1:04:171:04:19

Around 30 demonstrators were injured

in clashes with Israeli forces

1:04:191:04:21

in the West Bank yesterday.

1:04:211:04:22

The US has warned Palestinians

against cancelling talks

1:04:221:04:29

with vice-President

Mike Pence, who will visit

1:04:291:04:32

the Middle East in less

than two weeks' time.

1:04:321:04:34

A student who died weeks

after starting at university

1:04:341:04:36

was failed by "every NHS

organisation that should have cared

1:04:361:04:39

for her", a review has found.

1:04:391:04:40

Averil Hart, who was 19,

died of a heart attack caused

1:04:401:04:43

by anorexia in 2012.

1:04:431:04:44

The Parliamentary and

Health Service Ombudsman

1:04:441:04:45

says her death could and should

have been prevented.

1:04:451:04:47

NHS England has apologised, and says

it is making "real progress"

1:04:471:04:50

with eating disorder services.

1:04:501:04:56

Snow, ice and windy conditions

are set to sweep across large

1:04:561:05:00

parts of the UK today.

1:05:001:05:01

Severe gales have already

caused disruption to air,

1:05:011:05:03

rail and ferry services.

1:05:031:05:04

Yellow "be aware" weather

warnings have been issued

1:05:041:05:06

across much of Scotland,

Northern Ireland, Wales

1:05:061:05:11

and north-west England -

with up to eight inches of snow

1:05:111:05:15

expected in some areas.

1:05:151:05:18

A number of new wildfires have

started in southern California,

1:05:181:05:21

stretching firefighters

to the limit.

1:05:211:05:23

Nearly 200,000 people have now been

evacuated from their homes.

1:05:231:05:26

Planes have been diverted to one

of the latest blazes

1:05:261:05:29

in the county of San Diego,

and officials say more than 400

1:05:291:05:32

buildings have been destroyed.

1:05:321:05:34

A state of emergency

has been declared.

1:05:341:05:40

If universities in England

were banks, they could be accused

1:05:401:05:43

of misselling courses to teenagers

who have little understanding

1:05:431:05:46

of money matters -

that's according to the head

1:05:461:05:49

of the public spending watchdog.

1:05:491:05:50

Sir Amyas Morse says universities

are under very little competitive

1:05:501:05:53

pressure to provide the best value,

and young people were taking out

1:05:531:05:56

large loans to pay for tuition fees

without much effective

1:05:561:05:58

help or advice.

1:05:581:06:00

The government says its reforms

were helping students

1:06:001:06:02

to make informed choices.

1:06:021:06:07

Consumers are being warned that

current safety checks on fridges

1:06:071:06:10

and freezers are inadequate,

and that some products with plastic

1:06:101:06:12

backings are a potential fire risk.

1:06:121:06:16

The warning has been made

by the consumer group Which?,

1:06:161:06:18

which has called for tighter

new standards to be brought forward.

1:06:181:06:22

The body responsible says it's

working hard to introduce them.

1:06:221:06:27

That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10.30.

1:06:271:06:36

Here's some sport now with Hugh.

1:06:361:06:40

I don't think there will ever be a

definitive answer as to who the best

1:06:401:06:46

ever footballer is, but Cristiano

Ronaldo will always be in the

1:06:461:06:49

conversation I think, because once

again he was named the world's best

1:06:491:06:53

player last night, equalling Lionel

Messi by winning his fifth Balon

1:06:531:06:56

d'Or awarded to him in Paris. After

49 goals so far in 2017, he says

1:06:561:07:02

there is more to come.

I still have

the motivation, you know, to be

1:07:021:07:10

Cristiano, to play with happiness.

So, I think the main word, it's

1:07:101:07:16

happy, enjoy myself.

It was quite a

landmark for Arsenal manager Arsene

1:07:161:07:22

Wenger last night. They beat BATE

Borisov in the Europa League and it

1:07:221:07:26

was his 700th game in charge of

Arsenal. It was 6-0. Jack Wilshere

1:07:261:07:33

and Theo Walcott both scored before

Mohamed Elneny completed the rout.

1:07:331:07:36

Arsenal go through as group winners.

The line-up for the quarterfinals at

1:07:361:07:47

the UK Djemai is complete but Ronnie

O'Sullivan was pushed hard by Sunny

1:07:471:07:54

Akani, a man 20 years his junior. At

one stage she was just one frame

1:07:541:07:57

from victory but O'Sullivan fought

back rather fortunately in the end,

1:07:571:08:01

saying he felt like he had dropped

his opponent.

He put up a great

1:08:011:08:08

performance. His first time out

there, and, you know, he played a

1:08:081:08:15

lot better than I did, really, and

he probably deserved to win. I got

1:08:151:08:21

very, very lucky there tonight. I'm

kind of relieved to win, but I've

1:08:211:08:24

really got to improve on that if I'm

to have any chance winning another

1:08:241:08:28

match, really.

England bowler Moeen

Ali says the team still believe they

1:08:281:08:32

can turn the Ashes series around

despite trailing 2-0 after that big

1:08:321:08:38

defeat in Adelaide. Moeen Ali did

not bowl as much as he would have

1:08:381:08:41

liked because of an injury to his

finger, but he says that will be

1:08:411:08:45

healed in time for the next Test in

Perth, which starts next Thursday.

1:08:451:08:49

We took a lot out of Adelaide. For

the first couple of days we were

1:08:491:08:54

poor and then we started to fight

back. That fight has brought us

1:08:541:08:58

closer together as a team, and we've

got three games to put it right. We

1:08:581:09:05

did have a slight chance, but we've

got a good enough team and we've

1:09:051:09:09

shown enough fight in this team that

we can compete.

Plenty of work for

1:09:091:09:13

England to do. And Moeen Ali will

hope to be influential. That's the

1:09:131:09:17

sport for now.

1:09:171:09:21

Let's

go back to Brexit now,

1:09:211:09:25

and get more reaction to the talks

overnight in Brussels, which are

1:09:251:09:28

being described as a breakthrough.

1:09:281:09:29

The European Commission says enough

progress has been made -

1:09:291:09:31

about citizen's rights,

the Irish border and the size

1:09:311:09:34

of the so-called divorce bill -

to move onto the second stage

1:09:341:09:36

of talks, including

trade negotiations.

1:09:361:09:39

One of the main sticking points was

the issue of which caught would

1:09:391:09:43

guarantee the rights of EU citizens

in the UK. This is what the Prime

1:09:431:09:47

Minister had to say.

The deal we've

struck will guarantee the rights of

1:09:471:09:51

more than 3 million EU citizens

living in the UK and of 1 million UK

1:09:511:09:56

citizens living in the EU. EU

citizens living in the UK will have

1:09:561:10:00

the rights enshrined in UK law and

enforced a British court. They will

1:10:001:10:05

be able to go on living their lives

as before. I was clear in Florence

1:10:051:10:10

that we are a country that honours

our obligations. After some tough

1:10:101:10:14

conversations, we've now agreed a

settlement that is fair to the

1:10:141:10:17

British taxpayer. It means that in

future, we will be able to invest

1:10:171:10:20

more in our priorities at home, such

as housing, schools and the NHS.

The

1:10:201:10:26

Irish prime ministers welcome to the

deal and said the conditions were

1:10:261:10:29

now in place for the next phase of

negotiations to start.

We have

1:10:291:10:33

achieved all that we set out to

achieve in the first phase of these

1:10:331:10:42

negotiations. We have support from

the European Union and guarantees

1:10:421:10:46

from the United Kingdom. I am now

satisfied that sufficient progress

1:10:461:10:49

has been made on the Irish issues.

The parameters have been set and

1:10:491:10:55

they are good. Now, we can move on

to work out the detail and talk

1:10:551:11:00

about the transition phase, free

trade and the new relationship

1:11:001:11:03

between the EU and the UK.

1:11:031:11:12

But the European Union's

chief Brexit negotiator,

1:11:121:11:14

Michel Barnier, warned that there

were still difficulties to be faced,

1:11:141:11:16

and little time to tackle them.

1:11:161:11:18

My recommendation,

and the recommendation

1:11:181:11:20

of the college of commissioners,

is that the progress

1:11:201:11:22

achieved today is sufficient

to move to the next phase.

1:11:221:11:27

It's now up to the European Council

to decide whether this constitutes

1:11:271:11:30

sufficient progress and to move

the talks to the next stage.

1:11:301:11:37

We will then have completed

the first chapter of this

1:11:371:11:41

extraordinary negotiation.

1:11:411:11:44

Our political correspondent

Chris Mason is in Westminster.

1:11:441:11:51

A lot has happened between the

Downing Street Christmas party last

1:11:511:11:55

night and this morning. Can you

bring us up to speed with what's

1:11:551:11:59

happened and I understand you have

some more detail on the actual text

1:11:591:12:01

what?

Will work entering through the

clips of the main players, and was a

1:12:011:12:11

long night, there will be still

people in Downing Street talking

1:12:111:12:15

about what a long evening it has

been, because there hasn't been a

1:12:151:12:18

huge amount of sleep in the upper

echelon is of the British

1:12:181:12:21

Government. The Prime Minister and

David Davis jumping on a plane in

1:12:211:12:25

the middle of the night to get out

to Brussels in time for those news

1:12:251:12:30

conferences which happened early

this morning. As those were

1:12:301:12:33

happening, along came this document.

This is the document published

1:12:331:12:37

steamy joint report from the

negotiators of the European Union

1:12:371:12:39

and the United Kingdom government.

In other words, where the

1:12:391:12:43

compromises have been found. And

yes, there are compromises in here.

1:12:431:12:47

For instance, on the issue of

citizens rights, there is a clear

1:12:471:12:51

line in here which says that the the

Supreme Court of the European Union,

1:12:511:12:56

the European Court of Justice, will

maintain a role in the UK after

1:12:561:13:02

Brexit regarding the rights of the

EU citizens who are living here in

1:13:021:13:06

the UK after Brexit. Downing Street

points out that this is only likely

1:13:061:13:09

to involve a handful of cases but it

is an insight into a compromises.

1:13:091:13:14

Nigel Farage, the former leader of

Ukip, has described this as

1:13:141:13:21

amounting to no Brexit. He sees it

as a comprised 25. But from the

1:13:211:13:30

Prime Minister's perspective,

firstly publishing has a deal, which

1:13:301:13:32

is triumph compared to she was with

a few -- just a few days ago, with

1:13:321:13:39

that humiliation in Brussels earlier

in the week. There was even talk of

1:13:391:13:43

could there be a general election in

the New Year? In that sense it is a

1:13:431:13:47

triumph for the Prime Minister. Lots

of her cabin at this morning leaping

1:13:471:13:50

out of the blocks to appear on the

telly or the radio or on social

1:13:501:13:54

media to say how well the Prime

Minister has done. At, and this is a

1:13:541:13:58

really big but, and I no pesky

reporters like me like to say this,

1:13:581:14:02

but it is true, what is coming next,

the negotiation about the future

1:14:021:14:08

relationship with the European

Union, as opposed to on picking the

1:14:081:14:11

current relationship bubble is going

to be just as complicated if not

1:14:111:14:14

more so, and with just as many

moments, where there are three steps

1:14:141:14:18

forward and four back. Sorting out

what the UK's relationship with our

1:14:181:14:22

nearest neighbours is going to look

like for the next generation and

1:14:221:14:27

beyond in a very tight time frame

next year is also going to be an

1:14:271:14:31

almighty challenge. So, a big moment

for the Prime Minister today but a

1:14:311:14:34

big challenge still to come.

1:14:341:14:37

Bob Padron runs a care business

employing EU citizens.

1:14:371:14:40

Pawel Ozechowski is an EU citizen,

and is in our Edinburgh newsroom.

1:14:401:14:45

And Olga Garcia is a

Spanish migrant worker.

1:14:451:14:53

Before we speak to you, Olga, let's

hear what you had to say when you

1:14:531:14:58

appeared on the programme last year,

shortly after Britons voted to leave

1:14:581:15:01

the EU.

Well, the first thing is,

after four years, I don't know what

1:15:011:15:08

is going to happen. Next year I can

ask for dual nationality, and most

1:15:081:15:14

of my work colleagues and

everything, they cannot do that.

1:15:141:15:17

They don't know what is going to

happen in the future. To be honest,

1:15:171:15:20

nobody knows.

1:15:201:15:27

How does it feel listening to

yourself and your reaction a year

1:15:271:15:30

ago, and how do you feel now?

This

is great news to be honest. I feel

1:15:301:15:36

much more relaxed now regarding my

future in the UK. I think a lot of

1:15:361:15:42

the UK citizens will feel the same.

Why is that, is that just based on

1:15:421:15:47

Theresa May now this morning saying

that EU citizens rights, all 3

1:15:471:15:52

million living in the UK, would be

protected?

Yes, it's because at the

1:15:521:15:57

end of the day every day is, like,

you don't know what will happen. But

1:15:571:16:02

right now at least you see an end.

We can be relaxed. Most of the

1:16:021:16:09

people already here living in the

UK, we can be relaxed, and that's

1:16:091:16:13

good news for me.

What has the past

year been like for you, living with

1:16:131:16:17

that uncertainty about your future?

I understand you work here.

Yes, it

1:16:171:16:24

was a bit stressful, because most of

my colleagues, we are all from

1:16:241:16:30

abroad. So we don't know what is

going to happen. We don't know if we

1:16:301:16:34

can stay here or if we have to leave

because of our jobs, so it was very

1:16:341:16:39

stressful.

How do you feel today?

I'm slightly relieved we are moving

1:16:391:16:44

forward with everything. However

when you read the media they all

1:16:441:16:50

talk about personal victory of

Theresa May, rather than victory of

1:16:501:16:54

Britain. I would like to see how

this is actually going to come out

1:16:541:16:57

for Britain and us, people born

outside of Britain.

Tell us about

1:16:571:17:03

how you ended up in the UK in the

first place? You are in Edinburgh,

1:17:031:17:07

aren't you?

I've lived in Edinburgh

for about 13 years. I'm still not a

1:17:071:17:12

UK citizen because I did my

doctorate in the middle of that

1:17:121:17:16

stay. With the new rules it resets

your five years. But I've been here.

1:17:161:17:21

I fell in love with this most

beautiful country in the world. Now

1:17:211:17:25

I live here, I have family here, I

own property here, I have a

1:17:251:17:28

wonderful career.

I understand you

said you bought your property the

1:17:281:17:33

day before Brexit, and wouldn't have

purchased it had unanimous all.

1:17:331:17:37

Absolutely. It was the saddest day

of my life on many levels, because

1:17:371:17:43

that's the most uncertain financial

decision I've ever made. Just

1:17:431:17:47

imagine being tied to a place for 20

years, that -- however long the

1:17:471:17:53

mortgage last, and you cannot be

here.

Even care business. How does

1:17:531:17:59

it affect you?

It left a major clout

in terms of contingency planning

1:17:591:18:05

need to put in place. -- you have a

care business. The status of our

1:18:051:18:12

current EU national staff was put in

jeopardy. It relieves that stress.

1:18:121:18:16

In the grand scheme of social care,

there is an unprecedented

1:18:161:18:20

recruitment crisis that existed

before Brexit. This guarantee of the

1:18:201:18:30

status quo, only makes things less

bad, things are still very difficult

1:18:301:18:34

in terms of recruitment in social

care. But, of course, the impact of

1:18:341:18:39

the Brexit vote on social care has

been severe. We have done our best

1:18:391:18:45

to insulated ourselves from these

consequences.

Give us a sense of how

1:18:451:18:50

many people you employ from the EU.

80%. Roughly 80% of our staff are

1:18:501:18:57

from the EU. I know that is much

higher than the sector. I think the

1:18:571:19:01

sector is one out of 20.

And the

business operates in the UK?

Yes,

1:19:011:19:07

north London.

People watching might

be thinking why aren't you making

1:19:071:19:10

more of an effort to employ British

workers?

We employ the best people

1:19:101:19:15

who can work in social care, whether

they are from Britain, the EU,

1:19:151:19:19

elsewhere, and we do that by

providing good working conditions.

1:19:191:19:23

We are one of the few home-care

providers that pays higher than the

1:19:231:19:26

living wage. I know there is a

controversy about sleeping shifts.

1:19:261:19:32

We've always paid at least the

minimum wage for sleeping shifts. We

1:19:321:19:36

had done our best in terms of

working conditions to attract

1:19:361:19:41

locals. But at the end of the day,

if people do not want to do this

1:19:411:19:44

job, we need to look for people who

do.

I use saying British people are

1:19:441:19:48

not applying for those jobs?

Exactly. -- are you saying. It might

1:19:481:19:53

be where we are in London. I know

our proportion of EU nationals is

1:19:531:19:57

higher than the national. It could

be our location. I don't have a

1:19:571:20:02

reason for that. Of course, we are

agnostic about where our staff come

1:20:021:20:07

from. We just want whoever cares

about looking after vulnerable

1:20:071:20:11

people, who can do a good job, we

will consider to hire them and train

1:20:111:20:15

them. We hope that more British born

people will enter social care. But

1:20:151:20:22

if there is difficulties recruiting

local staff, then we need to recruit

1:20:221:20:27

whoever is willing to step up and do

the hard work that social care is.

1:20:271:20:33

But it is important and vital work.

Thank you for talking to us this

1:20:331:20:37

morning.

1:20:371:20:37

The Children's Commissioner

for England is calling on the prime

1:20:371:20:40

minister to put protection in place

for every child who is living

1:20:401:20:42

in a house with domestic violence.

1:20:421:20:44

Latest statistics show another rise,

year on year in the number

1:20:441:20:47

of domestic violence incidents

police are dealing with,

1:20:471:20:48

in England and Wales.

1:20:481:20:50

It comes as the NSPCC has recorded

a rise in the number of calls

1:20:501:20:53

to Childline from children concerned

about domestic abuse.

1:20:531:20:58

Earlier you saw a report

from Jeremy Cooke showing the impact

1:20:581:21:01

of domestic violence on children

in Northumbria -

1:21:011:21:03

here's a short extract.

1:21:031:21:06

Northumbria Police...

1:21:081:21:09

At the 999 call desk,

domestic abuse is a constant theme.

1:21:091:21:17

A domestic with a report

of somebody having been

1:21:171:21:20

stabbed with a screwdriver.

1:21:201:21:21

Calls for help 24/7.

1:21:211:21:22

Do you have children?

1:21:221:21:23

The immediate task -

to get the facts.

1:21:231:21:25

And if a child is present

it is a maximum priority case.

1:21:251:21:31

She said her partner or ex-partner

threatened to beat her and her

1:21:311:21:34

12-year-old child up.

1:21:341:21:35

So we're going to get somebody

up there straightaway.

1:21:351:21:37

Children can and do

suffer direct abuse.

1:21:371:21:43

But they also witness violence

and there is a growing recognition

1:21:431:21:45

of the long-term damage.

1:21:451:21:49

There's lots of evidence about

adverse childhood experiences -

1:21:491:21:52

of which this is the most common,

domestic abuse - and what a long

1:21:521:21:56

impact it can have

on people's ability to learn,

1:21:561:21:58

their ability to make relationships,

perhaps turning to crime

1:21:581:22:00

because they have chaotic lives.

1:22:001:22:04

I've had black eyes,

I've had elbows and knees and my

1:22:041:22:07

head would be bashed off something.

1:22:071:22:09

Jane finally fled after she and her

kids endured almost five

1:22:091:22:12

years of domestic abuse.

1:22:121:22:14

We've changed her name to protect

her and to protect the children.

1:22:141:22:22

I see the massive effect

it's had on them.

1:22:221:22:25

You would be in the middle of having

this fight and you would be

1:22:251:22:28

looking at your kids,

you would have eye contact

1:22:281:22:30

with your kids and you could see

the fear and them crying and stuff

1:22:301:22:33

and you wouldn't know what to do,

because you can't get

1:22:331:22:36

out of the situation.

1:22:361:22:37

And I just felt myself

like apologising to them a lot

1:22:371:22:40

and I didn't know how to deal

with it and I hated the fact

1:22:401:22:43

that they were so confused by it.

1:22:431:22:45

Now we can speak to Lynn Smillie,

whose father tragically

1:22:451:22:47

killed her mother in a domestic

violence attack when

1:22:471:22:49

she was a child.

1:22:491:22:55

You might find some of the details

of her story distressing. We really

1:22:551:22:59

appreciate you coming onto the

programme this morning. No problem.

1:22:591:23:05

Can you tell us about your

experience of growing up as a child

1:23:051:23:10

in a home where your father was

violent towards your mother.

Of

1:23:101:23:13

course. It was just constant. It was

as far back as I could remember. It

1:23:131:23:20

was any time during the week. It did

not have to be at weekends or when

1:23:201:23:24

there was any drink or anything

involved. It could happen in the

1:23:241:23:30

quietest of atmospheres. Then the

atmosphere would change. Dad would

1:23:301:23:34

just erupt out of nothing. For no

reason. No reason at all. He would

1:23:341:23:41

beat mum up and sometimes chase her

into the street where he would do

1:23:411:23:44

this in the middle of the street,

and there were people passing by.

1:23:441:23:49

What did you do whilst this was

happening? What was going through

1:23:491:23:52

your mind and how old were you?

As

far back as I can remember, which is

1:23:521:23:58

about three, four, we were still in

Glasgow at the time. We moved to

1:23:581:24:01

Aberdeen for a better life as family

members had put it. So it just

1:24:011:24:08

continued. It was when we moved away

it was more isolating because family

1:24:081:24:13

members who knew what was going on

were not there to run to. I felt

1:24:131:24:19

more isolated. When it happened at

the time I would always try and

1:24:191:24:24

reason with dad, try and calm him

down, scream enough for him to stop,

1:24:241:24:29

to let him know how much fear he was

putting into us. It was me, my

1:24:291:24:34

sister, and my mum.

Some of your

family members knew what was going

1:24:341:24:39

on. Did they try to intervene at any

point?

Always. They tried to

1:24:391:24:46

intervene before I was born.

Persuading mum that she deserved

1:24:461:24:50

better. That she could have a better

life and a better person in her life

1:24:501:24:55

that wouldn't do this to her. And

she was in love and she believed

1:24:551:24:59

that he would change. He was so

convincing that he would change. And

1:24:591:25:04

he showed often that he would change

for a spell, for a period of time.

1:25:041:25:10

And so she had something to go on

that he has potential to change, and

1:25:101:25:14

that he could be the father she

drained he would be, and husband, as

1:25:141:25:19

well.

How did it affect you? -- she

dreamt he would be.

I didn't really

1:25:191:25:33

have a childhood. I had to walk away

from my childhood to be concerned

1:25:331:25:39

about the parent in the home. It was

constant fear. Reading atmospheres.

1:25:391:25:45

Watching behaviour. Studying when it

was going to kick off that day or

1:25:451:25:50

evening. I could tell. There were

warning signs that would let me

1:25:501:25:55

know. So very early on I would try

to avoid or make the situation happy

1:25:551:26:00

or do something to stop that

happening. I thought I could

1:26:001:26:05

manipulate the situation by cleaning

the home, to bring something for my

1:26:051:26:07

parents that would stop that

happening.

How were you at school?

1:26:071:26:12

Did you tell anybody what was

happening at home?

Eventually I did.

1:26:121:26:17

But for a long time school was a

place where I picked up different

1:26:171:26:21

identities from my school friends. I

was very good at pretending that

1:26:211:26:25

home was OK. If I told anyone then I

was scared they would treat me

1:26:251:26:31

differently and they would believe

me, which is often the case. There

1:26:311:26:35

was an incident where at home one

evening mum came through to me in

1:26:351:26:40

the middle of the night and she

flung herself over my legs and dad

1:26:401:26:46

had an axe above her head. It really

seems like he was about to put that

1:26:461:26:52

in her skull. I screamed, we

screamed, he stopped, and the next

1:26:521:26:56

day I went to the teacher at the

school because I couldn't stand it

1:26:561:27:00

any longer. I knew the risks that we

were possibly going to be taken into

1:27:001:27:05

care with me disclosing to the

teacher.

Stay with us. We will come

1:27:051:27:10

back to you. Listening to you,

Elizabeth joins us.

1:27:101:27:18

Welcome to the programme, both of

you. Lynn's experience is why you

1:27:211:27:32

started your work at Compass. What

work have you done to help children

1:27:321:27:42

in these cases?

We have put in a

simple but impactful system.

1:27:421:27:47

Whenever the police attend a

domestic violence call, and their

1:27:471:27:52

children in the home, they will

contact the school prior to the next

1:27:521:27:56

school day and tell a trained key

adult what has happened in the home.

1:27:561:28:02

That enables us, as a school, to

support that child within school. We

1:28:021:28:08

can be ready for how they might be

feeling and we can support them and

1:28:081:28:12

enable them to have a good day

within school.

Can you tell us

1:28:121:28:16

practically what happens? If you get

that phone call, something is

1:28:161:28:22

flanked, in a school what would

happen? What would a teacher do if a

1:28:221:28:26

child comes into school? What would

they say? -- something is flagged.

I

1:28:261:28:36

would speak to the child's teacher.

We will discuss the things we might

1:28:361:28:39

or might not put in place. One of

the most simple things is to make

1:28:391:28:43

sure we greet that child with a

smile. Because there is a lot of

1:28:431:28:49

research about how we look, how our

body language is displayed, it can

1:28:491:28:56

affect a child negatively,

especially somebody who has been

1:28:561:28:58

through a traumatic experience the

night before. There is no one size

1:28:581:29:02

fits all. Schools are aware of the

individual children. If a child has

1:29:021:29:09

been through an incident the night

before, the child may come from what

1:29:091:29:15

has been chaos, so they might not

have school uniform on. So instead

1:29:151:29:19

of saying where is your uniform, we

will provide them with a uniform so

1:29:191:29:23

they feel a part of the rest of the

school. We also make sure that there

1:29:231:29:27

are people within school they can

talk to. When I talk to victims who

1:29:271:29:32

are children, they will often say I

don't feel there is anybody I can

1:29:321:29:37

talk to. I feel like this is

something still with my own. That

1:29:371:29:41

was expressed by your previous

guest. It's got to a hugely serious

1:29:411:29:45

extent before she told anybody in

school. What we want is our children

1:29:451:29:49

to know they can come and they can

talk to us. And we will support them

1:29:491:29:56

without judgment around that

domestic abuse.

Thank you. I just

1:29:561:29:58

want to speak to Zoe, as well,

because it isn't just about

1:29:581:30:01

charities doing their bit the police

need to take action as well. What

1:30:011:30:06

forces doing to help children in

domestic violence environments?

1:30:061:30:13

The police are getting better at

responding to domestic abuse, which

1:30:131:30:17

is encouraging. We found a few years

ago that police were reluctant to

1:30:171:30:21

engage with children at the scene of

domestic incidents. But they have

1:30:211:30:24

had an awful lot of training over

the last few years about the

1:30:241:30:27

importance of speaking to children

at the scene, to make sure that the

1:30:271:30:30

children are OK, to not be fobbed

off by the perpetrator. Quite often

1:30:301:30:36

we had examples of victims saying

the perpetrator said the children

1:30:361:30:38

were in bed, they're absolutely

fine. Police must not take that word

1:30:381:30:43

for it, they must go and have a look

at the children, make sure there are

1:30:431:30:46

OK. And this wonderful scheme which

these is talking about, it is about

1:30:461:30:51

information sharing but it is more

than that. It is about making sure

1:30:511:30:54

that when that child attends school

the next day, there is a caring

1:30:541:30:58

person, someone to look out for them

there. We found that only half of

1:30:581:31:01

the forces in England and Wales have

adopted this skin, Operation

1:31:011:31:05

Encompass, or something like it. So,

we have called on all police forces

1:31:051:31:10

across the country to put in place

such a simple, easy to manage scheme

1:31:101:31:16

that stops children having the

responsibility of domestic abuse

1:31:161:31:18

pushed onto them. As we heard from

Lynn, children take responsibility

1:31:181:31:24

for their parents' actions, they

bottle up feelings inside. These

1:31:241:31:28

schemes which put the children

absolutely at the forefront are

1:31:281:31:33

completely essential.

So, it's that

joined up approach, where police are

1:31:331:31:37

notifying the schools so that the

schools can take steps in terms of

1:31:371:31:41

the child's welfare, but they also

need to be trained, like you say, on

1:31:411:31:47

how to act and react in those

situations?

Absolutely, and the

1:31:471:31:51

police officers that we talk too

obviously want to do the very best

1:31:511:31:55

for the victim and for the people in

the household, but sometimes there

1:31:551:31:59

is a reluctance to be as proactive

as they need to be, to actually see

1:31:591:32:03

that child. If they are said to be

upstairs in bed sleeping, actually

1:32:031:32:07

if it's too late, comeback next

morning and make sure that that

1:32:071:32:10

child is OK. Take the normal, common

sense steps which we would want

1:32:101:32:15

other people to take as parents in

order to protect our children, is

1:32:151:32:19

the advice that we are giving to the

police.

And Lynn, what would you

1:32:191:32:23

like to see put in place to help

make a difference?

I am a

1:32:231:32:28

facilitator of the Freedom

Programme. Now, if my parents were

1:32:281:32:33

given an awareness of the behaviour,

the beliefs behind the behaviour,

1:32:331:32:38

and how society reinforces that,

weather it's separately or if they

1:32:381:32:45

want to stay together, then

together, then I believe that we

1:32:451:32:48

would have a chance at rooting out

the problem. So that children can be

1:32:481:32:54

safe. If I knew there was such a

programme going around at that time,

1:32:541:32:59

if it was available at that time

back in the night in 80s, I as a

1:32:591:33:03

child was intelligent enough that I

would have said, please go to this,

1:33:031:33:08

please change. I saw the potential

in my father and I would encourage

1:33:081:33:12

for anyone who wants to change, they

have the choice to do so. And for

1:33:121:33:18

any woman who sees that things won't

change, that she can make healthy

1:33:181:33:23

choices, with safety and planning,

with the right professionals around

1:33:231:33:26

her who have been domestic abuse

trained, who can help her get into a

1:33:261:33:31

safe space and a safe place for her

and her children.

Lynn, thank you so

1:33:311:33:35

much for coming onto the programme

this morning and sharing your story

1:33:351:33:38

with us.

1:33:381:33:48

Still to come?

1:33:561:34:06

Time for the latest news.

1:34:121:34:17

There's been a major breakthrough

in the Brexit talks.

1:34:171:34:19

The European Commission now says

"sufficient progress" has been

1:34:191:34:21

made in the first stage

of the negotiations -

1:34:211:34:23

about citizen's rights,

the Irish border and the size

1:34:231:34:25

of the so-called divorce bill -

that discussions can now start

1:34:251:34:28

on Britain's future relationship

with the EU.

1:34:281:34:33

However, the EU's chief Brexit talks

negotiator Michel Barnier has warned

1:34:331:34:36

there's still much to do.

1:34:361:34:40

Let me be clear - there is still

work to be done. And negotiation on

1:34:401:34:51

a number of issues, such as the

governance of our agreement, or for

1:34:511:34:55

instance... There are more others to

take... We will need to have the

1:34:551:35:05

final version of the withdrawal

agreement ready by October 2018 -

1:35:051:35:11

less than one year.

1:35:111:35:14

A "day of rage" is being planned

by Palestinians angered by America's

1:35:141:35:17

recognition of Jerusalem

as the capital of Israel.

1:35:171:35:18

Around 30 demonstrators were injured

in clashes with Israeli forces

1:35:181:35:21

in the West Bank yesterday.

1:35:211:35:22

The US has warned Palestinians

against cancelling talks

1:35:221:35:24

with vice-president Mike Pence,

who will visit the Middle East

1:35:241:35:26

in less than two weeks' time.

1:35:261:35:32

A student who died weeks

after starting at university

1:35:321:35:36

was failed by "every NHS

organisation that should have cared

1:35:361:35:38

for her", a review has found.

1:35:381:35:43

Averil Hart, who was 19,

died of a heart attack caused

1:35:431:35:46

by anorexia in 2012.

1:35:461:35:48

The Parliamentary and

Health Service Ombudsman

1:35:481:35:51

says her death could and should

have been prevented.

1:35:511:35:53

NHS England has apologised,

and says it's making "real progress"

1:35:531:35:56

with eating disorder services.

1:35:561:35:59

Snow, ice and windy conditions

are set to sweep across large

1:35:591:36:02

parts of the UK today.

1:36:021:36:03

Severe gales have already

caused disruption to air,

1:36:031:36:05

rail and ferry services.

1:36:051:36:08

Yellow "be aware" weather

warnings have been issued

1:36:081:36:10

across much of Scotland,

Northern Ireland, Wales

1:36:101:36:13

and north-west England -

with up to eight inches of snow

1:36:131:36:16

expected in some areas.

1:36:161:36:19

A number of new wildfires have

started in southern California,

1:36:191:36:24

stretching firefighters

to the limit.

1:36:241:36:27

Nearly 200,000 people have now been

evacuated from their homes.

1:36:271:36:30

Planes have been diverted to one

of the latest blazes

1:36:301:36:32

in the county of San Diego,

and officials say more than 400

1:36:321:36:35

buildings have been destroyed.

1:36:351:36:37

A state of emergency

has been declared.

1:36:371:36:39

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

1:36:391:36:47

Here's the sport now, with Hugh.

1:36:471:36:52

Real Madrid forward Cristiano

Ronaldo has been crowned the world's

1:36:521:36:56

best footballer once again, after

winning the prestigious Balon d'Or

1:36:561:36:59

award for the fifth time. He now

matches Lionel Messi's record and it

1:36:591:37:05

means the two of them have shared

the last ten titles. The Premier

1:37:051:37:08

League are expect him to announce

changes to how they sell the TV

1:37:081:37:11

rights today. Total number of live

broadcast games will increase, with

1:37:111:37:16

some matches going head-to-head with

the likes of The X Factor and

1:37:161:37:20

Strictly Come Dancing on a Saturday

night. Arsene Wenger hailed the

1:37:201:37:23

influence of Jack Wilshere as they

beat BATE Borisov 6-0 in a half full

1:37:231:37:28

at in the Europa League. And

five-time winner Ronnie O'Sullivan

1:37:281:37:31

said he felt sorry for the

20-year-old Sunny Akani from

1:37:311:37:34

Thailand, after he came from behind

three times to reach the

1:37:341:37:37

quarterfinals of the UK Snooker

Championship. I will be back with

1:37:371:37:43

more sport after 11 o'clock.

1:37:431:37:46

It can be hard for parents

and teenagers to talk to each other

1:37:461:37:54

about sensitive subjects like sex

and according to a new study, many

1:37:541:37:56

families are not very good at it.

1:37:561:37:59

The National Citizen Service

followed 1,000 teenagers and 2,000

1:37:591:38:01

parents for a year and they found

a "communication mismatch".

1:38:011:38:03

The study suggests parents

are almost three times more

1:38:031:38:05

likely to think they've

discussed their teen's sex life

1:38:051:38:07

with them, than their child.

1:38:071:38:09

When it comes to bullying,

twice as many parents as teens

1:38:091:38:12

believe they have discussed it.

1:38:121:38:19

Let's find out why there seems to be

such a mismatch with a child

1:38:191:38:26

psychologist Dr Anna Colton and

teenage Sophie Meehan. Is there a

1:38:261:38:34

big mismatch with the conversations

you have with your parents?

I don't

1:38:341:38:37

think so. The relationship I have

with my parents is always very open.

1:38:371:38:41

We talk about anything and there is

this attitude that nothing is taboo.

1:38:411:38:45

So, in my experience, it is not a

taboo and there is no mismatch.

And

1:38:451:38:51

what do you think about the results

of this survey, that have found for

1:38:511:38:55

a lot of people there is, where for

example the parents think they've

1:38:551:38:59

had conversations about something

like sex or bullying and the

1:38:591:39:03

teenager completed disagrees?

I

think the parents might try to have

1:39:031:39:07

these conversations, because they're

always looking out for their kids,

1:39:071:39:12

always trying to have this

conversation, whereas kids might try

1:39:121:39:15

to turn it off, thinking, oh, god,

this is awkward. But I've had

1:39:151:39:20

friends who have come to me and

said, we had this awkward chat. That

1:39:201:39:24

might be where there is that gap.

Lots of nodding from you and

1:39:241:39:28

agreeing over there, had! How open

are your conversations hammered it

1:39:281:39:33

will be interesting to find out from

you first of all before we come to

1:39:331:39:44

Ife?

You think you have discussed

everything but sometimes you think,

1:39:441:39:48

have we really discussed everything

which we should discuss or have you

1:39:481:39:51

just covered it as nicely as

possible? I try to think I am

1:39:511:39:55

possibly very liberal with him, you

know, compared to his mum - that's

1:39:551:39:59

my opinion, I think I am very

liberal.

Good cop, Badcock! And how

1:39:591:40:08

do you broach difficult subjects

with Ife, what is your technique as

1:40:081:40:12

a parent?

I try to just be patient

until I see that I can influence...

1:40:121:40:20

Like the first time when he went to

the NCS programme at the end of the

1:40:201:40:26

year, two or three years ago quango

he was 16 or so, and he introduced a

1:40:261:40:30

girl to meet at the end of the

programme and said, this is my

1:40:301:40:34

friend. Maybe I was thinking a bit,

but is the girlfriend, I wasn't

1:40:341:40:37

sure. But I told your mum, she

probably just said, put it off. I'm

1:40:371:40:44

thinking, OK, he's old enough to

tell me that, I am looking forward

1:40:441:40:48

to how the relationship proceeds.

Sometimes we found at night,

1:40:481:40:52

chatting long into the night, the

man says, he is chatting, let him

1:40:521:40:56

get on with it. But I don't know

weather I would talk about it. I

1:40:561:41:00

would take a step back.

So the key

is not being too intrusive - is your

1:41:001:41:05

dad'sdescription accurate, would you

say?

I feel like when I come to him

1:41:051:41:12

for a conversation, something on my

mind, he will try to talk to me

1:41:121:41:15

about it. But I feel like most of my

time is spent on my education and

1:41:151:41:20

what I want to do in the future,

work and things like that and how he

1:41:201:41:26

can influence me with that. But when

I have something about

1:41:261:41:30

relationships, about sex or

something, I will not go to them

1:41:301:41:33

about it. So he doesn't intrude on

me, like he said. I would probably

1:41:331:41:38

go to my friends because I can

relate to them. And we're all doing

1:41:381:41:41

the same thing, growing up in the

same way. So obviously I will talk

1:41:411:41:45

to them more about it. With my

parents could going to be more

1:41:451:41:49

awkward, because we're not on the

same level. It would be a bit

1:41:491:41:53

strange. And have you try?! From

time to time! Your dad sounds like a

1:41:531:42:01

great guy, very liberal, he says,

happy to talk to you about

1:42:011:42:03

everything...? Yeah, but sometimes I

am like, that's a bit awkward, not

1:42:031:42:09

now.

Can you give me examples which

we are allowed to say on morning TV?

1:42:091:42:17

Sometimes, you have to make sure you

don't hurt your back... I am like,

1:42:171:42:22

that's a bit much! OK! But

obviously, I think there is a time

1:42:221:42:27

and a place and they are open and

they have an understanding.

But it

1:42:271:42:33

has been nice to have that line of

communication open should you want

1:42:331:42:36

it. Sophie, do you think you five

representative of your generation

1:42:361:42:40

and your friends in terms of your

relationships with your parents?

1:42:401:42:44

Yeah, I think so, I think the

majority of people our age would

1:42:441:42:48

like to have that open relationship

with their parents settled not the

1:42:481:42:51

sincerity talk about everything with

them. At the yeah, definitely having

1:42:511:42:55

that openness is something which I

think is quite common.

Let's come to

1:42:551:42:59

the doctor, what do you make of this

year-long project looking into

1:42:591:43:03

relationships and openness between

parents and teenagers and the

1:43:031:43:06

mismatch?

It is interesting, because

for me, professionally in my

1:43:061:43:10

practice, I see the other end, I see

when it has gone wrong and teenagers

1:43:101:43:15

are unhappy and they feel they can't

talk to their parents. I am not

1:43:151:43:18

surprised. It is a shame that I'm

not surprised. Off on the mismatch

1:43:181:43:23

comes because parents feel they are

communicating when they are

1:43:231:43:26

imparting information. But imparting

information is not a conversation

1:43:261:43:30

necessarily. Actually the best way

to do it is a slow drip drip over

1:43:301:43:35

the years. If nothing is taboo, then

there is no drama around a

1:43:351:43:38

conversation, it is not a big deal.

It can happen for five minutes over

1:43:381:43:43

the dinner table and then over a cup

of tea the next day. That is the

1:43:431:43:46

best way. Sometimes they think, I

know they will just have a go at me,

1:43:461:43:52

so a can't tell them. That means

there will be no effective

1:43:521:43:56

communication, because the young

person will shutdown. The parents

1:43:561:43:58

may or may not have a go, but if

that is the perception the young

1:43:581:44:02

person has, it is a real hurdle. So

I am not surprised by the findings

1:44:021:44:08

of the report. There is loads of

scope for improving it.

What about

1:44:081:44:11

scope for improving the relationship

here with Ife, would Ife be more

1:44:111:44:18

willing to open up about issues with

his dad?

It is interesting. One of

1:44:181:44:22

the key things about adolescence is

separating from parents headed it is

1:44:221:44:25

totally appropriate to speak to your

friends rather than or in addition

1:44:251:44:29

to, your parents. It is unusual and

not so development of appropriate

1:44:291:44:35

only to talk to your parents. So I

think actually Ife is great, there

1:44:351:44:39

are some things you can discuss with

your parents and you know that

1:44:391:44:43

should you need them, your parents

are there. That's really good, is

1:44:431:44:46

lovely to see a.

How big a role to

you think the internet plays in the

1:44:461:44:51

suppose it break down in

communications, Sophie?

I am not too

1:44:511:44:54

sure. For me I don't think it would

have caused a breakdown in

1:44:541:44:58

communications. But say, a few years

ago when I had my phone at the

1:44:581:45:04

dinner table and my dad would be

like, no, that's not happening. So

1:45:041:45:07

there was a little bit of conflict

over the involvement of the internet

1:45:071:45:11

and technology into our life. But

now, we've got that out of the way,

1:45:111:45:16

so communication is back.

Ife, what

do you think? I know teenagers who

1:45:161:45:22

would be too scared to have a phone

conversation, just always sending

1:45:221:45:25

messages!

It depends how you use it.

There will be times when I will keep

1:45:251:45:31

to myself and my phone. If you

include your family, like now we

1:45:311:45:35

have a family group chat, which is

inclusive. So we can discuss topics,

1:45:351:45:40

if somebody from the family has done

something, we can congratulate them.

1:45:401:45:45

It can be a benefit to the child and

the parent.

Do you agree?

Children

1:45:451:45:55

will always get more information

from social media and the Internet

1:45:551:45:59

than what they can get from their

parents. You always provide for the

1:45:591:46:04

children in and around the house. I

always say be careful how you lived

1:46:041:46:11

that, you hurting your back, you

want to make him think about the

1:46:111:46:15

responsibility as to the future, so

this kind of thing. But his mum is

1:46:151:46:29

always saying to me, make sure you

take away his fame before he goes to

1:46:291:46:33

bed, I think social media and

Internet is so interesting it is

1:46:331:46:37

competing with our knowledge. You

just have to keep fighting in that

1:46:371:46:42

way that makes you set a platform

for them to see that the information

1:46:421:46:48

you are providing is vital for them

to build that kind of relationship.

1:46:481:46:54

What do you think? What's up family

groups, how many of us have those?

1:46:541:46:59

It's a good thing in terms of

opening up conversations and being

1:46:591:47:03

more inclusive. But does it also

play a part in the breakdown?

I

1:47:031:47:09

think it is mixed. Things like what

sap family groups, they are

1:47:091:47:12

brilliant, you can keep in touch,

update, it can reduce stress if you

1:47:121:47:17

are running late because you can

just reply, it easy. -- WhatsApp

1:47:171:47:28

family groups. But then you get the

point when the child says I cannot

1:47:281:47:32

introduce myself to a person,

because they are not used to it. But

1:47:321:47:37

what's good with these programmes as

young people will interact with

1:47:371:47:39

people they've never met before.

It's good for confidence building,

1:47:391:47:43

learning extra social skills, and

just creating the environment to be

1:47:431:47:48

relaxed and learn those things

rather than having parental

1:47:481:47:50

pressure. But the flip side is the

parents are quite anxious about

1:47:501:47:54

social media and anxious about how

much time their kids spend on it.

1:47:541:47:58

That in itself can create conflict.

As parents we were not brought up

1:47:581:48:03

with it so we are trying to keep up

and learning at the same speed or

1:48:031:48:07

possibly slower than our kids, so

that is also a challenge.

How much

1:48:071:48:11

do you regulate his social media

time?

I do that. It is a lost

1:48:111:48:18

battle. I didn't try. Maybe the mum

does it more. I must confess. I try

1:48:181:48:27

to make sure I am talking more. The

mum says to me, why do you have

1:48:271:48:31

these long conversations about every

little thing, but that's the only

1:48:311:48:33

time I can get my way into the

competition. If I said to him put

1:48:331:48:39

your phone down it will probably be

put somewhere he can get access to

1:48:391:48:44

it, so I don't think I will win that

battle.

1:48:441:48:47

CHUCKLES

Thank you all very much indeed.

1:48:471:48:53

This Sunday is the biggest day

of the football season so far

1:48:531:48:55

as Manchester United and rivals

Manchester City clash

1:48:551:48:57

at Old Trafford.

1:48:571:48:58

City are top and going for a record

14th consecutive league win.

1:48:581:49:01

For Mancunians this

is the most-eagerly awaited fixture

1:49:011:49:03

in the football calendar.

1:49:031:49:04

We can speak to some now -

who will hoping for very

1:49:041:49:07

different results.

1:49:071:49:12

Natasha Turkington

is a lifelong United Fan,

1:49:121:49:13

and Lee Warner a lifelong

City supporter.

1:49:131:49:22

Natasha will be with us shortly.

1:49:221:49:25

And then we've got father and son,

Bob and Ryan and Tute.

1:49:251:49:28

Bob raised Ryan a City fan,

but he turned his back on the team

1:49:281:49:31

in favour of United when he grew up.

1:49:311:49:35

Welcome to the programme. Let's

speak to the father and son. How are

1:49:351:49:41

you feeling about Sunday's game?

I'm

over the moon. It will be a win for

1:49:411:49:47

City.

No, it'll be a 2-1 win for

United. Someone will come off the

1:49:471:49:57

bench and score a winner.

It should

be a very good game. As long as Jose

1:49:571:50:04

Mourinho doesn't park the bus. It

would be 6-1, it will probably be

1:50:041:50:10

6-3. -- it will not be 6-1.

What is

it like being opposing fans in the

1:50:101:50:15

same household?

It's all right. For

the last ten years before Manchester

1:50:151:50:23

City decided to get some money it

was normally one-way traffic. We

1:50:231:50:26

used to win everything. The last

five years it has got a bit more

1:50:261:50:32

complicated, but we tend not to

watch games together just to avoid

1:50:321:50:37

any, sort of, conflict, shall we

say.

You are a Mancunian commonly,

1:50:371:50:43

but you live in London, what are you

hoping for from Sunday?

I'm hoping

1:50:431:50:49

for the same as we've been doing the

past ten, 15 games, the performances

1:50:491:50:53

have been amazing. The past few

weeks we have shown the grit and

1:50:531:50:59

determination you need in the dying

minutes of games. Probably similar

1:50:591:51:03

to the teams of Sir Alex Ferguson in

the 90s when they would score late

1:51:031:51:06

winners and always feel confident

they would get the win regardless of

1:51:061:51:10

potentially looking like they were

not. Really confident. Hopefully

1:51:101:51:13

Silva can be in the team and not get

injured. That would be amazing. It

1:51:131:51:20

will be a tight game. Maybe one goal

in it. Hopefully 2-1.

Natasha, you

1:51:201:51:27

have just joined us, good morning,

how much are you looking forward to

1:51:271:51:30

Sunday, and are you going to the

game?

I am going to the game. I'm

1:51:301:51:36

excited. But I'm very nervous, as

well, like all derby days. It is a

1:51:361:51:42

love it and hate it kind of day.

Do

you think Sunday could shape the

1:51:421:51:47

title race?

Definitely. There is so

much riding on this game. It's the

1:51:471:51:54

league, it's bragging rights, it's

private, it absolutely everything.

1:51:541:52:00

Yes. I'm just hoping we will get the

win. I don't care how it happens. If

1:52:001:52:06

it is a scrappy, park the boss of

football match, but we get the

1:52:061:52:10

point, I am OK with that. We can

keep fancy football for later in the

1:52:101:52:16

season.

It's called the most

expensive and possibly most watched

1:52:161:52:20

game in Premier League history. The

fact you are going must be special.

1:52:201:52:23

I know you have a season ticket and

you have been going for the last 20

1:52:231:52:28

years, but still...

Yes. It is

always a special one. I was reading

1:52:281:52:35

this morning that it is the most

expensive. I hadn't even considered

1:52:351:52:39

that because it doesn't really

matter. Both sides, we just want our

1:52:391:52:44

team to win. We all want to win the

league. But, yes, it's a special one

1:52:441:52:48

and I cannot wait to get down there.

But I also cannot wait for it to be

1:52:481:52:53

over.

Have fun on Sunday. Wrap up

warm. Snow is expected this weekend.

1:52:531:52:58

Thank you for speaking to us this

morning, all of you. Let's get more

1:52:581:53:05

reaction to the Brexit talks

overnight in Brussels which are

1:53:051:53:08

being described as a breakthrough.

The European Commission says enough

1:53:081:53:11

progress has made about citizens

rights. The Irish border, and the

1:53:111:53:16

size of the so-called divorce bill

to move on to the second stage of

1:53:161:53:20

talks, including trade negotiations.

Let's get more reaction to this

1:53:201:53:24

morning's Brexit development, Nigel

1:53:241:53:34

Farage joined us. What is your

response?

Extraordinary situation.

1:53:361:53:40

The British Prime Minister has to

fly through the middle of the night

1:53:401:53:44

to meet three unelected people who

condescendingly say, jolly well

1:53:441:53:49

done, Theresa May commit you have

met every single one of our demands,

1:53:491:53:52

thanks very much, we can move onto

the next stage. It is humiliating.

1:53:521:53:56

We have collapsed at every level. To

allow the European Court of Justice

1:53:561:54:02

to have jurisdiction over this

country for nearly a decade to come

1:54:021:54:06

is not what people voted for.

But

citizens rights. There has to be a

1:54:061:54:11

two-way agreement. British citizens

living in the EU need to be

1:54:111:54:17

protected. You need a reciprocal

agreement in that case. The ECJ

1:54:171:54:21

won't have a say on everything. They

will have a say in some cases and a

1:54:211:54:26

say over the rights of EU citizens

living in the UK. Is that not fair?

1:54:261:54:32

Why should a multimillionaire French

banker living in London have more

1:54:321:54:35

rights than anybody here who is

British or indeed comes from the

1:54:351:54:38

rest of the world? You cannot have

that. Either you live by one set of

1:54:381:54:43

rules or you don't. That's not

acceptable. The exit bill is way

1:54:431:54:47

more than we need to pay. In terms

of us keeping alignment with the

1:54:471:54:53

rest of the European Union, well, we

voted Brexit so we could be

1:54:531:54:59

competitive and make our own laws.

Now we go into a situation where she

1:54:591:55:03

wants a transition phase where we

will say a member of the European

1:55:031:55:08

Union in all but name for a further

two years...

We don't know that yet,

1:55:081:55:12

we don't know what the final deal

will look like. To be clear, where

1:55:121:55:16

we are now, we've got to the stage

where to move on to phase two there

1:55:161:55:20

will be no hard border separating

Britain and Ireland. Citizens rights

1:55:201:55:26

will be protected. And the divorce

Bill will be fair for us, do you

1:55:261:55:32

disagree with all of those things?

Completely. We are paying a

1:55:321:55:36

gargantuan sum of money which we are

not legally entitled to pay. We are

1:55:361:55:40

doing it because the Prime Minister

is desperate to find some kind of

1:55:401:55:44

deal. Ultimately no deal is better

than a bad deal. On course at the

1:55:441:55:49

minute, this is a very bad deal

indeed.

Businesses have told us they

1:55:491:55:53

want a transition deal. As a former

businessman yourself, isn't that a

1:55:531:55:57

good thing?

If we have this

transition deal it'll be at least

1:55:571:56:02

six years, minimum, from the date we

voted Brexit before we are able to

1:56:021:56:06

sign a trade deal with any other

part of the world. I am afraid we

1:56:061:56:10

are looking really rather less

serious to the world outside the EU

1:56:101:56:14

than we were on Brexit day.

Michel

Barnier, on the Brexit deal, you are

1:56:141:56:20

saying it is a staggering amount,

but Michel Barnier has said this

1:56:201:56:24

morning that it is impossible to

calculate how much that will be. It

1:56:241:56:28

is dependent on future developments.

Of course! Theresa May offer 20

1:56:281:56:32

million. They said, that's nice,

double it. She has doubled to 40

1:56:321:56:38

million. I have no doubt it will go

up again to 60 million. We are

1:56:381:56:44

dealing with completely unreasonable

people. The European Union is not

1:56:441:56:48

adjusting any of its future spending

plans despite the fact one of the

1:56:481:56:51

main contributors has voted to leave

and we are picking up the tab.

1:56:511:56:55

Frankly, we look ridiculous.

You are

saying no compromises should have

1:56:551:57:00

been made? We had this morning that

we wouldn't be in this position or

1:57:001:57:04

moving onto phase two next week if

compromises were not made on every

1:57:041:57:09

side.

They set the terms of these

negotiations from the start.

1:57:091:57:14

Frankly, there have been no

negotiations. We've wasted months

1:57:141:57:18

and in the end we have agreed on

everything they insisted on in the

1:57:181:57:22

first place. We should never ever

have been making a series of

1:57:221:57:26

concessions just in some vague hope

we might get a trade deal at the end

1:57:261:57:30

of it.

Monday's delay was because of

the DUP.

Thank goodness. At least

1:57:301:57:37

there are some people in British

politics with principle. There was a

1:57:371:57:41

lot of that in the Conservative

Party. Everything has been agreed

1:57:411:57:44

today. Everything is against what we

said on June 23 2016.

But that isn't

1:57:441:57:55

true. We don't know what the final

version of Brexit will look like.

1:57:551:57:58

This is to do with citizens rights,

and the divorce Bill.

We voted to

1:57:581:58:02

make our own laws in our country.

And to control our own borders. I

1:58:021:58:08

don't think anybody who voted for

Brexit didn't understand those

1:58:081:58:14

things very clearly indeed. We are

agreeing that a foreign court can

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have jurisdiction over people living

in this country for at least a

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further eight years.

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