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Hello it's Friday, it's 9
o'clock, I'm Tina Daheley, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
welcome to the programme. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:14 | |
Significant progress on Brexit
following overnight talks. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
There will be no hard border
with Ireland and three million EU | 0:00:16 | 0:00:22 | |
nationals living in Britain -
and a million British expats - | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
will have their rights
protected when we leave. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
Theresa May arrived in Brussels to
make the announcement this morning. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
We'll have the latest in what's
being called a breakthrough moment | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
and look ahead to the next
phase of talks. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
The deal we have struck will
guarantee the rights of more than 3 | 0:00:35 | 0:00:41 | |
million EU citizens living in the UK
and 1 million UK citizens living in | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
the EU. EU citizens living in the UK
will be able to go on living their | 0:00:44 | 0:00:51 | |
lives as before. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:57 | |
We'll look ahead to
the next phase of talks. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Children affected by domestic
violence need better | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
protection according
to England's children's | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
commissioner. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
We'll have a special report. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
I would like the Prime Minister to
make this a priority for the whole | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
of government and actually send out
strong messages and a framework for | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
government and public services
throughout the land as children need | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
their help now, they can't wait for
that support. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:23 | |
Bochum to the programme. We will
bring you full analysis of the | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
Brexit negotiations throughout the
programme today, including live | 0:01:38 | 0:01:43 | |
press conferences in Brussels and
reaction here. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
Hello and welcome to the programme,
we're live until 11 this morning. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
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Our top story today... | 0:01:58 | 0:01:59 | |
There's been a major breakthrough
in the Brexit talks. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
The European Commission now says
"sufficient progress" has been | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
made in the first stage
of the negotiations - | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
about citizen's rights,
the Irish border and the size | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
of the so-called divorce
bill - that we can move | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
on to the second stage. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:11 | |
That'll be about Britain's future
relationship with the EU - | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
and in particular, the shape of any
deal on trade. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
The announcement came at a news
conference in Brussels this morning | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
by the European Commission president
Jean-Claude Juncker and Theresa May. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
One of the main sticking points
was the issue of which court | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
would guarantee the rights of EU
citizens in the UK - | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
this is what the Prime
Minister had to say. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:32 | |
The deal we've struck will guarantee
the rights of more than 3 million EU | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
citizens living in the UK and of 1
million UK citizens living in the | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
EU. EU citizens living in the UK
will have their rights enshrined in | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
UK law and enforced by British
courts. They will be able to go on | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
living their lives as before. I was
cleared in Florence that we are a | 0:02:50 | 0:02:56 | |
country that honours our
obligations. After some tough | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
conversations, we've now agreed
settlement that is fair to the | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
British taxpayer. It means that in
future we will be able to invest | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
more in our priorities at home such
as housing, schools the NHS. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:12 | |
The breakthrough follows 48 hours
of intense negotiations over | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
the issue of the Irish border -
after Northern Ireland's DUP party | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
had made it clear they weren't happy
with the solution proposed earlier. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
Jean-Claude Juncker said a hard
border of the Irish island | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
could now be avoided. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
The UK has made significant
commitments on the avoidance of a | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
hard border after its withdrawal
from the European Union. All of the | 0:03:31 | 0:03:37 | |
EU 27 stand firmly behind Ireland
and behind the peace process. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
Let's get all the reaction from this
morning's brexit breakthrough | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
with our correspondents
in Westminster and in Brussels. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:53 | |
Chris Mason, first, what's
the political reaction been here? | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
How did we get to this breakthrough
this morning? Telephone diplomacy | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
all night, chatting to Dublin,
Belfast in Brussels and then at daft | 0:04:02 | 0:04:10 | |
o'clock in the morning, she got on a
plane with David Davis, the Brexit | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
Secretary, in order to fly over to
Brussels and sign that document. We | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
got the first proof that the deal
had been done when Martin sell my, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:24 | |
the chief of staff to the president
of the European Commission, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Jean-Claude Juncker, tweeted a
picture of a chimney with white | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
smoke pouring out of it, all of the
symbolism and mystique of a papal | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
conclave in one early morning tweet.
How did we get here from where we | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
were on Monday, given that you
mediation of the Prime Minister when | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
she was midway through her lunch
with Mr Juncker and the Democratic | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Unionist Party Lou a big raspberry
at the whole thing? Well, a huge | 0:04:47 | 0:04:54 | |
amount of negotiation and
significant compromises to | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
accommodate the views of the
Democratic Unionist Party, who got | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
to a place last night where they
were willing, despite some | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
reservations, to give their consent
to the documents being signed. I | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
think wherever you are watching this
this morning around the UK, if you | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
tilt your gear in the direction of
the window, you will probably be | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
able to hear the size of relief
coming from Downing Street. This is | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
a massive moment. Let's find out
what is happening in Brussels now. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:24 | |
What happens next, phase two, next
week? Well, it has been quite a | 0:05:24 | 0:05:31 | |
dramatic morning here, of course.
Things appear to have fallen into | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
place in the end, as quickly as they
fell apart on Monday. And attention | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
is already turning to precisely that
question - what happens now? Because | 0:05:38 | 0:05:44 | |
of course this was just the first
phase of the Brexit negotiations, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
that test of sufficient progress
which we have heard about so often | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
on citizens rights, on the Irish
border and on the financial | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
settlement. The really big stuff,
actually, is still to come. This was | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
just a bump in the road, a very
important bump in the road that had | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
to be navigated successfully. The
talks about trade and transition | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
will of course be even longer, even
more complex than those first phase | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
talks. So, you're already hearing
warning voices from the European | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
Union talking about, for example,
the terms and conditions which they | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
will be attaching to that transition
period. So, a sigh of relief here as | 0:06:19 | 0:06:25 | |
well, there has been genuine worry
that Britain might not be able to | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
get this deal over this week, which
would create huge timetabling | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
problems for next year. But
alongside that sigh of relief, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
people drawing breath to prepare for
the next round of talks. The next | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
phase has already in effect begun,
with EU starting to talk about | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
transition and what they're going to
want. Thank you very much, Kevin | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
Connolly in Brussels. We can go to
the BBC Newsroom now. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:55 | |
Annita is in the BBC
Newsroom with a summary | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
of the rest of the day's news. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
A "day of rage" is being planned
by Palestinians angered by America's | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
recognition of Jerusalem
as the capital of Israel. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Around 30 demonstrators were injured
in clashes with Israeli forces | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
in the West Bank yesterday. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
The US has warned Palestinians
against cancelling talks | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
with vice-President
Mike Pence, who will visit | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
the Middle East in less
than two weeks' time. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
A student who died weeks
after starting at university | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
was failed by "every NHS
organisation that should have cared | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
for her", a review has found. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
Averil Hart, who was 19,
died of a heart attack caused | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
by anorexia in 2012. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
The Parliamentary and
Health Service Ombudsman | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
says her death could and should
have been prevented. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
NHS England has apologised,
and says it's making "real progress" | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
with eating disorder services. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
Snow, ice and windy conditions
are set to sweep across large | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
parts of the UK today. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
Severe gales have already
caused disruption to air, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
rail and ferry services. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
Yellow "be aware" weather
warnings have been issued | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
across much of Scotland,
Northern Ireland, Wales | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
and north-west England -
with up to eight inches of snow | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
expected in some areas. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
A number of new wildfires have
started in southern California, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
stretching firefighters
to the limit. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:06 | |
Nearly 200,000 people have now been
evacuated from their homes. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
Planes have been diverted to one
of the latest blazes | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
in the county of San Diego,
and officials say more than 400 | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
buildings have been destroyed. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Our North America correspondent
James Cook reports. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:28 | |
The American West was never really
came. The weather here was always | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
wild and dangerous and in a warming
world, it seems to be getting worse. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
The wind has just picked up here in
the past few minutes and the fire is | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
really flaring up on the hillside
there and pushing along this canyon. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
There are some homes down there. We
can hear shouts in the Valley and | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
there are some families refusing to
leave. The Walkers are among them. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:57 | |
They would not answer the door. They
are inside and intent on staying | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
put, despite the danger lurking
nearby. At least two dozen horses | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
have died in this via, which is the
worst here in living memory. In the | 0:09:05 | 0:09:10 | |
exclusive suburb of Bel Air, they
attacked the fires, and famous | 0:09:10 | 0:09:23 | |
people were among those forced to
flee. Every firefighting aircraft in | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
the United States has been summoned
to California. They're making a big | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
difference. In times of crisis come
extraordinary moments of compassion. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:36 | |
Here a man apparently in distress
runs to rescue a rabbit. One little | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
life saved. Several new fires have
broken out in the past few hours. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
Intoning them is a superhuman
effort. -- containing them. But | 0:09:45 | 0:09:51 | |
mother nature is likely to have the
last word. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:58 | |
If universities in England
were banks, they could be accused | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
of mis-selling courses to teenagers
who have little understanding | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
of money matters, that's
according to the head | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
of public spending watchdog. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:06 | |
Sir Amyas Morse says universities
are under very little competitive | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
pressure to provide the best value,
and young people were taking out | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
large loans to pay for tuition fees
without much effective | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
help or advice. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
The government says its reforms
are helping students | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
to make informed choices. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
Two of the country's biggest
discount retailers, Primark and | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
SportsDirect, have been forced to
pay back thousands of staff who were | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
paid less than the minimum wage.
They were among 206 the companies | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
who have been named and shamed by
the for underpaying staff. The most | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
common reasons given were failing to
pay workers when travelling between | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
jobs and deducting money for
uniforms. All firms on the list say | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
the issues have now been rectified.
Prison inspectors have found high | 0:10:50 | 0:10:58 | |
levels of violence and filthy
conditions at Wormwood Scrubs for | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
the third year in a row. They also
found areas of the west London | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
prison, which houses 1200 inmates,
were strewn with letter, attracting | 0:11:05 | 0:11:11 | |
rats and cockroaches. The Ministry
of Justice says it has taken | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
decisive action to address the
problems. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
Coventry has been chosen as the UK
city of culture for 2021 It beat | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
submissions from Paisley,
Stoke on Trent, Sunderland | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
and Swansea to win the title. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:24 | |
The bid team said their plans
were "about changing the reputation | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
of a city" as well as hosting a year
of cultural celebration. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:33 | |
There's 40 million people within two
hours Drive time. We are looking at | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
visitors numbering two point
5,000,020 21. We're going to give | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
something special to the UK. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
Scientists working in the Arctic
believe they may have | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
discovered why some whales
repeatedly become stranded. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
Researchers tracked narwhals
which had been released | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
after becoming entangled
in fishing nets. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
They found that when the whales
became frightened, blood-flow | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
was restricted to their brains,
causing the animals to become | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
confused and disorientated
as they tried to swim away. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC
News - more at 9.30. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:08 | |
Do get in touch with us | 0:12:08 | 0:12:15 | |
throughout the morning -
use the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
If you text, you will be charged
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Let's get some sport. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
And as if he hasn't won enough
awards already, Cristiano Ronaldo | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
has won another one? Yes, good
morning. It is that question once | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
again, who is better, Lionel Messi
or Cristiano Ronaldo? There is never | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
going to be a definitive answer, I
think. Last night Ronaldo equalled | 0:12:35 | 0:12:41 | |
Messi by winning his fifth Alund or
title. It was awarded to him in | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
Paris. He posed with the trophy on
the Eiffel Tower. -- Balon d'Or. No | 0:12:46 | 0:12:54 | |
player has won more awards than the
former Manchester United forward | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
which five. Messi won four in a row
for Ronaldo's surge. Why did he get | 0:12:57 | 0:13:06 | |
it this year? 49 goals in all
competitions is a pretty good | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
reason! He also helped Real Madrid
to a second successive jumpy and and | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
he and he says he has more to offer.
I still have the motivation. -- | 0:13:14 | 0:13:24 | |
second successive Champions League.
To play with happiness. The main | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
word is, enjoy myself. There was a
landmark last night for the Arsenal | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
boss Arsene Wenger. Their Europa
League victory against BATE Borisov | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
was his 700th win in charge of
Arsenal. And they won 6-0 in the | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
end. Mohamed Elneny completed the
rout. Arsenal went through as group | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
winners. Everton had already crashed
out of the competition, but Ademola | 0:13:47 | 0:13:56 | |
Lookman, the 20-year-old, scored
twice as they got their only win of | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
the campaign against Apollon
Limassol. Now, the line-up for the | 0:13:59 | 0:14:07 | |
quarterfinals in the U:K.'s new
championship is complete, but there | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
was a big scare for five-time winner
Ronnie O'Sullivan, who needed a 6-5 | 0:14:10 | 0:14:16 | |
win over Sunny Akani, a man 20 years
his junior. At one stage Sunny Akani | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
was just one frame from victory.
O'Sullivan fought back rather | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
fortunately in the end, saying he
felt he had robbed his opponent. He | 0:14:25 | 0:14:30 | |
put up a great performance. His
first time out there, and he played | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
a lot better than I did Usher and he
probably deserved to win. I got | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
very, very La Quinta tonight's. So,
I'm kind of relieved to win but I've | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
really got to improve on that, to
think I'm going to have any chance | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
of winning another match, really.
O'Sullivan moves on to play Martin | 0:14:49 | 0:14:56 | |
Gould. They will be back out early
this afternoon in York. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:07 | |
So after a frantic night
of long negotiations, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
Theresa May has finalised a deal
with the EU to unlock | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
the next phase of the talks. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
Announcing the breakthrough,
the EU Commission President Jean | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
Claude Juncker said it had been
a difficult negotiation | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
for the EU as well as the UK. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Today's result is of course a
compromise. It is the result of a | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
long and intense discussion between
the commission negotiators and those | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
of the UK. As in any negotiation,
both sides have two listen to each | 0:15:28 | 0:15:35 | |
other. Are just their position, and
show willingness to compromises. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:41 | |
This was a difficult negotiation.
For the European Union, as well as | 0:15:41 | 0:15:47 | |
for the United Kingdom. On
Wednesday, last Wednesday, the | 0:15:47 | 0:15:55 | |
College of commissioners gave me a
mandate to conclude the negotiation | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
of the joint report. And it has to
be concluded today, not next week. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:05 | |
Today, because next week we will
have the European Council, and in | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
order to allow our partners to
prepare in the best way possible the | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
meeting of the European Council, we
had to make the deal today. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:21 | |
On the basis of the mandate given to
me, the European Commission has | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
formally decided to recommend the
European Council that sufficient | 0:16:25 | 0:16:30 | |
progress has now been made on the
strict terms of the divorce. Theresa | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
May also said the talks hadn't been
easy and had required to give and | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
take on both sides.
We've been working extremely hard | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
this week. As you have all seen it
hasn't been easy for either side. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
When we met on Monday we said a deal
was within reach. What we have | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
arrived at today represents a
significant improvement and I am | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
grateful to the negotiating teams
led by David Davis and Michel | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
Barnier for their efforts. Getting
to this point has required give and | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
take on both sides. And I believe
that the joint report being | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
published is in the best interest of
the whole UK. I very much welcome | 0:17:08 | 0:17:14 | |
the prospect of moving ahead to the
next phase, to talk about trade and | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
security, and to discuss the
positive and ambitious future | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
relationship that is in all of our
interests. I have consistently said | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
that we want to build a special and
deep partnership with the EU as we | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
have met the decision of the United
Kingdom to leave the EU by March | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
2000 19. Doing so will provide
clarity and certainty to businesses | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
in the UK and EU and crucially for
all of our citizens. -- by March | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
2019. The rights of 3 million EU
nationals living in the UK will be | 0:17:45 | 0:17:52 | |
protected. As for the rights of the
1 million British people living in | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
the EU. There was also joint
commitment to no heart border | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
between Britain and the Republic of
Ireland. That was a sticking point. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
The British PM said she'd also
agreed a fair settlement for the | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
British taxpayer. The previous deal
had been blocked by the DUP but its | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
leader, Arlene Foster, said she was
pleased to see today's agreement | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
will mean there will be no customs
barrier in the Irish Sea. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
There have been six substantive
changes. We are pleased to see those | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
changes. For me it means there is no
red line down the Irish Sea. We have | 0:18:25 | 0:18:32 | |
a very clear confirmation that the
entirety of the United Kingdom is | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
leaving the EU, leaving the single
market, leaving the customs union, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
and I think that's an important
statement to have. And also vitally | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
important, of course, the entirety
of the UK was kept in place. But | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
there are still matters there we
would have liked to have seen | 0:18:49 | 0:18:55 | |
clarified. We ran out of time,
essentially. We think we needed to | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
go back again and talk about those
matters. But the PM has decided to | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
go to Brussels in relation to this
text and she says she has done that | 0:19:04 | 0:19:10 | |
in the national interest.
Theresa May and her Brexit | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
secretary, David Davis, made their
overnight dash to Brussels while | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
Downing Street were having their
Christmas party. What were the first | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
signs of a breakthrough? Early this
morning, an aide to Jean-Claude | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
Juncker tweeted this image of white
smoke. And this picture of Theresa | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
May and David Davis having breakfast
with Jean-Claude Juncker and Michel | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
Barnier then emerged. The big
question, what happens next? With me | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
to talk about the deal are three
Westminster watchers. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
Marie Le Conte, who's
a journalist and commentator. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
Jessica Elgot, political
reporter at the Guardian. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
And the Specator
magazine's Katy Balls. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
Good to see you all. You have been
keeping up to speed with this | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
morning 's developments. Good. Let's
get your response. The breakthrough | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
this morning, Monday, talks
collapse, embarrassing for Theresa | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
May, coming back with no deal. She
had to leave the Christmas party | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
yesterday to go to Brussels and have
managed -- they may have managed to | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
have come up with an agreement. It's
good news for everybody. I'm an EU | 0:20:09 | 0:20:14 | |
national. So I'm quite relieved
things have been settled. But it was | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
very much an 11th hour deal and it
was expected, I think. Theresa May | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
will be pleased she has some
breathing space now. I think Theresa | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
May can take a lot of ownership of
this deal. She seems to have taken | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
charge of it this week, especially
in negotiations with the DUP, and | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
David Davis, her Brexit secretary,
slightly on the sidelines over the | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
last few weeks. But she seems to
have come it's quite interesting how | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
Arlene Foster, the leader of the
DUP, says that it wasn't quite as | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
far as they wanted to go. But the PM
decided to go ahead and go to | 0:20:49 | 0:20:55 | |
Brussels and make the deal anyway,
even though there was still | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
differences between them. I think
that shows that the PM wanted to | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
show she isn't being held hostage by
the DUP. It's also clear they had no | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
choice but to come up with a deal by
the end of today to be able to move | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
on to phase two next week. The
language we have been hearing this | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
morning is that sufficient progress
has been made to move onto the next | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
stage of talks, Katie? I think
sufficient progress has been made. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
But there are overhanging issues.
There was the slight warning from | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
the DUP that they are not completely
satisfied. But I don't think the | 0:21:27 | 0:21:33 | |
Conservative Party is satisfied
either, because this draft text | 0:21:33 | 0:21:38 | |
leapt out because talks broke down
on Monday, lots of questions now | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
hanging over what this trade
relationship Britain is seeking with | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
the EU is actually going to be. That
will be a more difficult stage. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
There will be a bit of relief,
Christmas holiday is looking | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
brighter for number ten staff, but
ultimately the hard work is stuffed | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
beginning. We will come onto the
next stage in a moment. But what | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
have the biggest compromises beam?
The talks haven't been easy, they | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
have been difficult for both sides,
and compromises have been made. -- | 0:22:02 | 0:22:10 | |
the biggest compromises beam? On the
UK side there will be a divorce | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
bill. We don't have the figure yet.
But it will be substantial. There is | 0:22:13 | 0:22:19 | |
that. On the UK side again, EU
nationals will be able to bring | 0:22:19 | 0:22:25 | |
family and unborn children will be
able to be born in the UK and have | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
similar rights they have at the
moment. The UK has budged on that. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:37 | |
On the EU side... One of the key
compromises with a lot of the more | 0:22:37 | 0:22:43 | |
ardent Brexiteer MPs will want to
see is exactly the role of the ECJ. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:50 | |
That is something they wanted to
draw a line against. We won't ever | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
be subject to those laws ever again.
Now it seems there might be some | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
compromise at least for a limited
period that caught here will have to | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
pay some sort of regard to judgment
there. Weather it is EU citizens, or | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
maybe the future trade relationship.
-- whether it is EU citizens or | 0:23:06 | 0:23:14 | |
maybe the future trade relationship.
Which areas of life will it affect? | 0:23:14 | 0:23:20 | |
It could affect British businesses.
There could be ruling is different | 0:23:20 | 0:23:26 | |
kinds of regulations for British
businesses that might affect them. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
All of that stuff needs to be worked
out when it comes to what the future | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
relationship will be and what the
trade terms, you know, what we end | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
up with... And it looks like that
may not even be sorted by the end of | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
the deal. Theresa May has said she
is seeking a transition period. I | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
think the EU will want to see in
that transition period, roughly | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
around two years, that we are
generally accepting the same kinds | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
of rules and regulations as the EU
has in order to continue to trade. A | 0:23:53 | 0:23:59 | |
huge sigh of relief from many
people. Not least in Downing Street. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
But this still needs endorsement
from 27 EU countries. Are we likely | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
to see any stumbling blocks, do you
think, Katie? What we've noticed in | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
the past few days, after things got
awkward for the British government | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
on Monday, Brussels seem to really
want Theresa May to get sufficient | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
progress. There has been a
concentrated effort from figures... | 0:24:20 | 0:24:26 | |
There have been some quite vicious
briefings from Jean-Claude Juncker's | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
side, the disastrous dinners they
have had, for example, so I think | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
they wanted to help her out. Michel
Barnier and Donald Tusk want to do | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
this positive mood music. Everybody,
including the 27 members, want to | 0:24:38 | 0:24:44 | |
get it through to the trade talks.
But I think people will then be a | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
bit more frank about those talks.
Yes, lots of thank yous this morning | 0:24:48 | 0:24:55 | |
after everybody's speeches. Why is
it in their interest for talks to go | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
well and progress to be made on
Theresa May's behalf? Uncertainty | 0:25:00 | 0:25:06 | |
isn't good for anyone. There is
certainly an argument that the EU | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
can sit back and wait to blink more
than Britain. Because lots of | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
businesses in Britain are working
out if they need to have contingency | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
plans. They wanted this reassurance
we are moving to trade and they have | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
that. It is not in anybody's
interest, because there is so much | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
trade going on between all of these
countries to keep things waiting. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:32 | |
Use all Leo Varadkar say that, as
well. He said we are keen to get a | 0:25:32 | 0:25:38 | |
conference and trade deal with the
UK. -- you all saw. It is in both | 0:25:38 | 0:25:48 | |
sides' interest to get that going.
The Tory party split over what they | 0:25:48 | 0:25:53 | |
want. How will the party be reacting
to today's compromise? So far it's | 0:25:53 | 0:26:00 | |
been surprising, nobody has made any
noises, you know? Indicating they | 0:26:00 | 0:26:06 | |
are definitely unhappy with what
happened overnight. Even people like | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
Michael Gove who is the chief
Brexiteer in the Cabinet, I suppose. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
They were all congratulating Theresa
May. So far it is fine. But as Katie | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
was saying earlier, it is a sign
that they know that most of the work | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
is yet to come and they may be
saving themselves for the battles of | 0:26:23 | 0:26:31 | |
2018 and 2019. There will be some
probing by some of the Brexiteers on | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
the backbenches in the Tory party.
About some of the phrases which have | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
been agreed. There is talk about
this idea of alignment of | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
regulations in the UK. What does all
of that mean? There has been a lot | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
of confusing language this week.
High alignment, low alignment, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
regulatory divergences...
CHUCKLES | 0:26:53 | 0:26:54 | |
Explain, what does it all mean? That
is something that will need to be | 0:26:54 | 0:27:01 | |
probed quite a lot in Parliament
over the coming days and weeks. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
Essentially, when it came to
Northern Ireland, though, their | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
concern was on Monday and why they
didn't want that agreement to go | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
ahead was they didn't want to be
more closely aligned with the EU and | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
Dublin than the UK. The key thing we
heard this morning from Arlene | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
Foster was that they were given
assurances Northern Ireland, the | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
entire UK, would be leaving the EU,
including Northern Ireland. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
Ultimately now, with all of this
talk of regulation, diverges which | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
confuses everybody, is how close,
basically, Britain will be to the EU | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
in terms of all of these
regulations, all of these things we | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
have to stick by. Do we have to
adhere to all of these rules of the | 0:27:39 | 0:27:45 | |
EU, and trading standards, etc? The
lots of members of the Conservative | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
Party they find it unappealing
because they like this idea of a | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
clean Brexit where they don't have
to mirror Brussels in any way. That | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
is where you will see some worries.
But also this disagreement. There | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
was a small number of backbenchers
who do not want to give any money to | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
Brussels. They are still not going
to be delighted that we have | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
sufficient progress in this way.
Theresa May has been keeping her | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
cards close to her chest. Almost
telling the hard Brexiteers and | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
their party what they want to hear,
telling other people what they want | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
to hear, but going into the next
phase she will have to talk about | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
exactly what she wants, what the
government wants, how does she go | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
about keeping everybody happy? She
can't keep everybody happy. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
CHUCKLES
It's impossible. She needs to start | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
working out, who basically,
pragmatically, is the best person | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
for her to disappoint. Who will be
most pragmatic about it? And working | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
out how she can give different
people what they want. There isn't | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
solution that fixes all at the end
of the day. One of the key things to | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
remember is for a lot of Brexiteers
what they want to do is leave the | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
EU. As long as she can still say
that we are not going to be attached | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
to the EU single market and Customs
union, we may end up with an | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
arrangement which is incredibly
similar to being in the single | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
market and Customs union. If she is
able to say definitively that that | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
link has been broken, I think at the
end of it all that is the way she | 0:29:09 | 0:29:14 | |
may be able to, just about, draw a
compromise together in the middle | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
somewhere. Do you think phase two
will be as painful as phase one? | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
Probably more painful. Quite a lot
of factions, especially on the UK | 0:29:22 | 0:29:28 | |
site, have decided to play ball and
be relatively nice and helpful. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
Because they know the future of the
relationship is really what matters. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
That is when they will dig the
trenches and actually decide to say | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
to Theresa May, this is what we
want, these are our strong red | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
lines. The worst is probably yet to
come. Let's finish on a couple of | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
e-mails. This is from Brian, well
done, you deserve a good rest, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
Theresa May.
Another one says, I would like to | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
know what will now stop the EU
citizen is getting into England by | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
slipping through the back door as
there is no border. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
Cathy says, what breakthrough, it is
all just words. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
Thank you for your messages, keep
them coming in. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
Still to come... | 0:30:09 | 0:30:10 | |
We'll hear from the Children's
Commissioner about what more | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
could be done to protect children
from domestic violence. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
Jeremy Hunt tells us the government
must do more to support people with | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
mental health problems. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
Time for the latest
news - here's Annita. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:30 | |
The headlines: There has been a
major breakthrough in the Brexit | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
talks. The European Commission now
says sufficient progress has been | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
made in the first stage of the
negotiations about citizens rights, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
the Irish border, the size of the
so-called divorce bill that we can | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
move onto the second stage. That
will be about Britain's future | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
relationship with the EU and in
particular the shape of any deal on. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
But in the last hour Michel Barnier
has warned there is still much to | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
do. There is still much to be done
and negotiation on a number of | 0:30:57 | 0:31:13 | |
issues. We will need to have the
final version of the withdrawal | 0:31:13 | 0:31:27 | |
agreement ready by October 2018.
Less than one year. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:36 | |
A "day of rage" is being planned
by Palestinians angered by America's | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
recognition of Jerusalem
as the capital of Israel. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
Around 30 demonstrators were injured | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
in clashes with Israeli forces
in the West Bank yesterday. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
The US has warned Palestinians
against cancelling talks | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
with vice-President
Mike Pence, who will visit | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
the Middle East in less
than two weeks' time. | 0:31:53 | 0:32:00 | |
A student who died weeks
after starting at university | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
was failed by "every NHS
organisation that should have cared | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
for her", a review has found. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | |
Averil Hart, who was 19,
died of a heart attack caused | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
by anorexia in 2012. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:10 | |
The Parliamentary and
Health Service Ombudsman | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
says her death could and should
have been prevented. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
NHS England has apologised,
and says it's making "real progress" | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
with eating disorder services. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
Snow, ice and windy conditions
are set to sweep across large | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
parts of the UK today. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
Severe gales have already
caused disruption to air, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
rail and ferry services. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
Yellow "be aware" weather
warnings have been issued | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
across much of Scotland,
Northern Ireland, Wales | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
and north-west England -
with up to eight inches of snow | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
expected in some areas. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
That's a summary of
the latest BBC News. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:47 | |
We will have a weather update coming
up just before ten o'clock this | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
morning. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:51 | |
Here's some sport now with Hugh. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
Real Madrid footballer Cristiano
Ronaldo has been crowned the best | 0:32:54 | 0:33:02 | |
footballer in the world again, after
winning the prestigious Balon d'Or | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
award. It means he and Lionel Messi
have shared the last ten titles. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
Arsene Wenger hailed the influence
of Jack Wilshere, as they won their | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
final Europa League game 6-0 against
BATE Borisov at what was a half full | 0:33:14 | 0:33:20 | |
Emirates stadium. Everton were
already out but they did beat | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
Apollon Limassol 3-0 in Cyprus.
Ademola Lookman scored twice. And | 0:33:22 | 0:33:29 | |
finally, Fife winner Ernie
O'Sullivan said he felt sorry for 20 | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
rolled Sunny Akani from Thailand
after a O'Sullivan came from behind | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
three times to reach the
quarterfinals of the U:K.'s new | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
championship. That's the sport for
now. We will be back with more just | 0:33:38 | 0:33:45 | |
after ten o'clock if | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
The Children's Commissioner
for England is calling on the prime | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
if is calling on the prime | 0:33:50 | 0:33:51 | |
minister to put protection in place
for every child who is living | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
in a house with domestic violence. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
The latest statistics show another
rise, year on year in the number | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
of domestic violence incidents
police are dealing with, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
in England and Wales. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:03 | |
The BBC has had access
to Northumbria Police and charity | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
Wearside Women In Need,
to see how they respond to emergency | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
domestic violence calls
where children are involved | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
and how they're supported. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:11 | |
Jeremy Cooke's report starts
with Claire's story, which some | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
viewers may find disturbing. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:23 | |
Jack was the eldest, he was 12. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:24 | |
He was a musician. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
He was just a lovely
quiet, gentle boy. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:32 | |
Paul was cheeky, full of confidence. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
A good sportsman. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:38 | |
He was a runner. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:39 | |
Personal best was
always in his mind. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:47 | |
Claire Throssel, proud mother,
domestic abuse survivor. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:54 | |
She left the man who had controlled
and bullied her and her | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
children for years. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
We've met Claire on this programme
before, and now we hear more | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
about her unforgettable,
tragic story of what happened | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
as her two boys were caught
up in a world of fear. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
They were frightened of their dad. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
And they were frightened for me and
very protective of me and worried. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:20 | |
Despite everything, the boy's father
had a right to see them. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
Claire sensed the growing
danger, but was powerless | 0:35:25 | 0:35:26 | |
to stop what happened next. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
There was a policeman
stood at the door and I | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
said, "What's he done? | 0:35:32 | 0:35:33 | |
He's done it, hasn't he? | 0:35:33 | 0:35:34 | |
He's done something to them." | 0:35:34 | 0:35:40 | |
At the 999 call desks,
domestic abuse is a constant theme. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
There is a domestic,
with a report of somebody having | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
been stabbed with a screwdriver... | 0:35:47 | 0:35:48 | |
Calls for help 24/7. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:57 | |
has she got any children...? | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
The immediate task -
to get the facts. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
And if a child is present
it is a maximum priority case. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
Said her partner, or her ex-partner
threatened to beat her | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
and her 12-year-old child up. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:07 | |
So we're going to get somebody
up there straightaway. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
Children can and do
suffer direct abuse. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
But they also witness violence,
and there's a growing recognition | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
of the long-term damage. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:18 | |
There's lots of evidence
about adverse childhood experience | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
of which this is the most common -
domestic abuse - and what a long | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
impact it can have
on people's ability to learn, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
their ability to make | 0:36:28 | 0:36:29 | |
relationships, perhaps
turning to crime, because | 0:36:29 | 0:36:30 | |
they have chaotic lives. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
I've had black eyes,
I've had elbows and knees | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
and my head would be
bashed off something. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
Jane finally fled after she and her
kids endured almost five | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
years of domestic abuse. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
We've changed her name to protect
her and to protect the children. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
I see the massive effect
it's had on them. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:54 | |
You would be in the middle of having
this fight and you'd be | 0:36:54 | 0:37:00 | |
looking at your kids,
you'd have eye contact | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
with your kids, and you could see
the fear and them crying and stuff | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
and you wouldn't know what to do,
because you can't get | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
out of the situation. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:09 | |
And I just felt myself
like apologising to them a lot | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
and I didn't know how to deal
with it and I hated the fact | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
that they were so confused by it. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
We have a female and he's
hit her on the back. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
After the 999 calls, the response. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
Northumbria Police on the case. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
Every year across the country,
the number of domestic abuse | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
incidents is rising,
and this year stands at 645,000. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:32 | |
We're on our way to
a domestic violence case. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
Every incident like this
is treated very seriously, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
but when there are children
involved, it all takes on an even | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
greater sense of urgency. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:49 | |
As well as the emergency calls,
there are also routine checks. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
Tonight, the police are visiting
Melissa, along with a specialist | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
from Wearside Women in Need. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
So, if we give you a call...? | 0:38:01 | 0:38:02 | |
There are no kids here. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
Melissa felt she had
no choice but to give | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
up her new-born baby for adoption,
because she was trapped | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
in an abusive, controlling
relationship - domestic abuse, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
breaking the bond
between mother and child. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
It's cost you your baby and it's
cost your baby his mother. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
I'll never see my baby again. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
I'm in so much pain. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:32 | |
It's ruined me life, basically. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
Do you think about your baby? | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
Every day. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
He's gone. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
The biggest mistake
I ever done in my life. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
Anything you need for your flat that
I could help you with? | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
No. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:53 | |
Melissa is trying to
turn things around. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
She's got a job and wants
to look to the future. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
With the ongoing support
of Wearside Women in Need. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
That was really sad, wasn't it? | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
Yes, absolutely, she had no choice
but to choose her partner over | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
the child before she even had
a chance to bond or be | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
with that child. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
For kids caught up in domestic
abuse, there's always damage, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
but for Claire, as she was rushed
to Sheffield Children's Hospital, it | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
became a matter of life and death. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
I walked up to the bed
and they stopped the CPR | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
and I held him in my arms. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
I held him so tight. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
And my tears were in his hair,
his hair was damp and | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
then his eyes closed. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:41 | |
Paul was gone. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
And Claire became aware of another
bed, doctors fighting to save Jack. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
Their abusive, violent father had
also died in the fire | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
that he deliberately set
after trapping | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
the boys in the attic. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
The boys couldn't get out. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
But Jack tried. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
And he'd managed to get Paul
to the edge of the attic, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
but he'd fallen through into
the flames below. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
And when the firemen picked him up,
he said, "My dad this did | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
and he did it on purpose." | 0:40:18 | 0:40:19 | |
A family destroyed. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
But still more agony to come. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
I went with Jack to Manchester
Burns Unit and he went | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
straight into theatre. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:36 | |
Jack fell asleep in my arms
after a five-day battle | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
in Manchester Children's Hospital. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:44 | |
Early intervention can help
children and save lives. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:50 | |
This is Operation Encompass
and at Northumbria Police HQ it's | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
the first task every morning. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
A specialist team scans
through all the overnight | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
reports of domestic abuse
for cases involving children. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
This is an 11-year-old child that's
been present during a domestic | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
between mum and dad. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:10 | |
It's all about communication. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Operation Encompass has now been
picked up by more than half | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
of the UK police forces
and they immediately tell | 0:41:17 | 0:41:25 | |
schools what's happened,
so that children can be supported | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
from the moment they arrive
in the classroom that morning. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
The first thing we will do is,
we always make sure we greet that | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
child with a smile and if they have
not got school uniform on, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
we can offer them school uniform,
we check that they have had | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
breakfast, we just check
that they're alright. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:43 | |
A simple phone call
can make the biggest | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
of differences to a child. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:46 | |
And you know, if we're not
about making their lives better, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
then what are we about? | 0:41:49 | 0:41:50 | |
These children are among
the one in seven in the UK | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
who experience domestic abuse. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:59 | |
Here they've been taken
into refuge with their mothers. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
And now there are calls
for for consistent, multi-agency | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
response to domestic abuse -
nationwide and driven from the top. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
I would like the Prime Minister
to make this a priority | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
for the whole of government
and actually send out strong | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
messages and a framework
for government and public services | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
throughout the land that
children need the help now, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
they can't wait for that support. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
Claire now spends her life
campaigning with Women's Aid. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:30 | |
They've recorded 20 cases since 2005
where children have been | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
killed by fathers already involved
in domestic abuse, but still granted | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
access to their children. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:42 | |
It's a silent killer. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
Domestic abuse and coercive control
is something that's not | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
visible on the outside,
it destroys people, | 0:42:46 | 0:42:47 | |
it destroys lives. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
It destroys the whole being. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:56 | |
And it needs to be
recognised and stopped. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:05 | |
The campaign is called Child First,
and it demands that family courts | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
put children's safety at the heart
of every decision. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
A demand Claire makes
in the name of her boys - | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
her Paul and her Jack. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:20 | |
I promised no other parent
would have to do what I did and hold | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
a child in their arms as they died,
knowing it's at the hands | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
of somebody who should love them
and protect them the most. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:34 | |
One family's tragedy -
bleak testimony that the lives | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
destroyed by domestic abuse include
the lives of children. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:45 | |
If you want help or advice with any
of the issues raised in that report, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
you can find support
on our Actionline website. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
Just search for BBC Actionline. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:58 | |
Coming up... We will hear how Health
Secretary Jeremy Hunt plans to help | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
young people with mental health
problems. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
Let's get more on Theresa May
and the EU's Jean-Claude Juncker | 0:44:06 | 0:44:12 | |
saying that a Brexit
breakthrough deal paves way for | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
future trade talks. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:21 | |
"Sufficient progress" has been
made in the first stage | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
of the Brexit negotiations,
allowing talks to move | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
onto the subject of
trade and transition - | 0:44:26 | 0:44:27 | |
that's the news breaking
from Brussels this morning. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
Michael Gove, the Environment
Secretary, has given his reaction. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
This achievement is a significant
achievement for the Prime Minister | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
and it helps guarantee the rights of
EU citizens in the UK. It will be UK | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
courts which safeguard those rights
are. In a limited number of cases, | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
for a limited period of time come
they can if they wish to, if there | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
is a point of law which is
ambiguous, go to the European Court | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
of Justice for help in resolving the
issue. But it is important to | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
Beckett now is that this is a time
limited and very specific exemptions | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
and it is the UK courts in the
driving seat. If there is no deal | 0:44:57 | 0:45:03 | |
regarding the relationship between
Northern Ireland and the Republic, | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
then this document sets out that
there will be a maintenance of a | 0:45:05 | 0:45:12 | |
full alignment between the whole of
the UK and the EU, with rules of the | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
single market and Customs union -
again, from the perspective of | 0:45:16 | 0:45:22 | |
someone who has supported Brexit
throughout, that seems to be a | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
massive concession and at least a
massive risk, because if a deal | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
isn't done, then we fall back into
the single market and customs union | 0:45:29 | 0:45:34 | |
which you have been opposed to all
along? | 0:45:34 | 0:45:40 | |
We are going to be outside the
single market and outside the | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
customs union because of this deal.
In the Republic of Ireland and in | 0:45:43 | 0:45:48 | |
Northern Ireland there has been so
much progress. That means we will | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
continue to work together that there
is no return to a hard border. The | 0:45:52 | 0:45:59 | |
alignment between the Republic and
Northern Ireland will mean it is | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
able to achieve its goals. There
will not be any weakening of the | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
position of Northern Ireland within
the UK. Can you tell us now with | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
full confidence Britain will not be
the customs union come the end of | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
the negotiations? It is clear the PM
has made it a priority to ensure we | 0:46:14 | 0:46:19 | |
are outside the customs union and
outside the single market, so we can | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
set our own rules and sign our own
trade deals. We want a deep and | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
competence of free trade agreement
with the EU. It is in all of our | 0:46:26 | 0:46:31 | |
interests to secure that great trade
deal. This document will be | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
interpreted in wildly different ways
by those in Brussels, and by those | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
in your government, and those
supporting your government, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
therefore despite the agreement that
has been reached, I mean... It is | 0:46:42 | 0:46:47 | |
fair to say that there are huge
challenges going forward. Yes, there | 0:46:47 | 0:46:52 | |
has been an agreement on this first
phase to get through to the second | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
phase, but, you know, things will be
interpreted wildly differently, and | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
therefore there are big challenges
ahead. There was always scope for | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
people to be cynical. But this is a
significant achievement, I think. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:07 | |
Because it means the right of EU
citizens are protected in the UK. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:12 | |
The rights of UK citizens are
protected in the EU. We have an | 0:47:12 | 0:47:16 | |
agreement that no EU country will be
out of pocket as a result of our | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
departure. But there will be more
money for NHS, schools, and housing | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
in this country as a result of us
leaving the EU. And we can get onto | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
talking about that free trade deal.
It's a significant step forward, and | 0:47:27 | 0:47:32 | |
one that the overwhelming majority
of people in parliament and in the | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
country will welcome. Looking
forward to the trade deal do you | 0:47:35 | 0:47:40 | |
accept the broad principle that from
the EU's perspective a trade deal | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
for Britain in the future has to be
at least slightly less. That has to | 0:47:44 | 0:47:53 | |
be a principle the European Union
takes to the negotiation. We want a | 0:47:53 | 0:47:58 | |
free trade deal, one which gives
tariff free restrictions access to | 0:47:58 | 0:48:03 | |
goods and services into the European
market. At this stage it would be | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
wrong for me to try to guess exactly
how every single aspect of that | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
trade deal will work. But one thing
is clear, we start from a position | 0:48:11 | 0:48:16 | |
where our regulations already
aligned, our markets are already | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
integrated, so I think we can have
the best free trade deal that has | 0:48:19 | 0:48:24 | |
yet been designed between Britain
and the EU. The goodwill is there if | 0:48:24 | 0:48:29 | |
we build on it. Finally, should
Parliament be consulted on the broad | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
principles set out in the document?
It's vital to involve Parliament at | 0:48:33 | 0:48:39 | |
every stage. The Prime Minister has
been scrupulous to make sure the | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
House of Commons plays its part in
recognising where Britain plays its | 0:48:42 | 0:48:49 | |
part. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
I don't think many people would
disagree with that. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt has
admitted that his Government must | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
to do more to help people
will mental health problems. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:10 | |
Mr Hunt says there are "bottlenecks"
in parts of the England | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
that must improve. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:14 | |
He was responding to
hearing the story of Bex, | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
who suffers with a range of serious
mental health conditions. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
She was featured in a BBC Radio 1
Newsbeat documentary earlier this | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
week called My Mind And Me. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:30 | |
Mp3 player, phone... | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
I have been diagnosed
with depression, social anxiety | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
disorder, obsessive compulsive
disorder, bipolar, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:35 | |
borderline personality
disorder and also insomnia. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
And that window's locked. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
I call my anxiety disorder
"the anxious hog monster", | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
because that's how it feels. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
My chest is compressed and it feels
like your heart's pounding | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
and your hands are shaking. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
Locked. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:52 | |
When I have been leaving the flat,
it takes me longer with my OCD | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
as well and my anxiety. | 0:49:55 | 0:50:01 | |
Bex's story, and the others
in that documentary, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
prompted a huge reaction | 0:50:03 | 0:50:04 | |
earlier in the week. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:05 | |
Jim Connolly from Newsbeat is
with me to talk about what happened | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
when he took the story
to Jeremy Hunt. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:14 | |
What happened when you took the
story to Jeremy Hunt? Like you said, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
we got a massive reaction from our
audience. People really connected to | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
it. They were candid and honest. It
was one person in particular, Bex, | 0:50:21 | 0:50:29 | |
who we saw there, people really
connected with her, he thought she | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
was speaking so openly and
powerfully. We decided that that the | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
secretary of State. -- we decided to
put that to the secretary of state. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:44 | |
Compared to the scale
of what we want to do, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
which is to be much better
at being there for people | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
going through the agony that Bex
is doing through, there is a long | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
way to go. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:54 | |
In the majority of cases,
mental health problems start very | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
young and that's why it is
so important that people have the | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
confidence and courage to come
forward, because then something can | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
be done about it. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:02 | |
But to do that we've
really got to ramp up the | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
services available and what we need
to do is have a much stronger | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
partnership between the NHS
and schools and you know if we had | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
been able to do that when Bex
was at secondary school, who knows, | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
we could have nipped that problem
in the bud and Bex wouldn't be | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
having to go through
the horrific challenges | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
that she is going through now. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
So it is really that's the purpose. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
One of the stories she told us
was particularly shocking and she's | 0:51:23 | 0:51:29 | |
asked us to show you it,
so I would like to show | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
you her story and this is one
incident that's caused her | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
quite a lot of distress. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:36 | |
There was a long wait,
so I waited in hospital | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
for two and a half hours,
just to see someone and they took me | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
to a mental health clinic and I felt
quite suicidal and just impulsively | 0:51:42 | 0:51:46 | |
dangerous, so I kept saying,
"I'm not safe" and I kept getting | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
panicky and I couldn't get my breath
back and my chest was really tight. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
So then they were like,
"We can't give you the medication | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
because it would have to be seen
by a doctor and there's no | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
doctors at that time." | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
And then I got back home at like 3
in the morning and then two days | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
later had another bad panic attack. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
Back to this clinic. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
They tried to admit me again,
but there were no beds. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
She had a mental health crisis,
she was suicidal, she was brought | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
She had a mental health crisis,
she was suicidal, she was worried | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
for her own safety and she was sent
home to her house on her own at 3 | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
o'clock in the morning. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:25 | |
Then the problems continued. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:26 | |
And there was no bed for her. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
A lot of people say it is all very
well spotting the signs, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
but once you have spotted the signs
there isn't the help | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
out there for people. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:35 | |
Well, there needs to be more help
for sure and the thing that she | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
talked about in there, there
were some positives and negatives. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
I think the negatives
you're absolutely right. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:43 | |
The positive is that she did
have a crisis team at | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
her local hospital. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:47 | |
Those have only actually started
in the last three years. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
We also have more beds available
than we've had before, but | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
I won't pretend there aren't parts
of the country where there are | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
real bottlenecks. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:56 | |
I think the broader point
here is we've had a | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
health system for many
years where if you break | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
a leg or cut your arm,
you can go to an A&E and it's | 0:53:00 | 0:53:04 | |
sorted out on the spot. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:05 | |
But if you have a mental
health crisis, it isn't. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:10 | |
And we changed the law five years
ago and we said, no, you need | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
to treat mental health
equally to physical health. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
And that means that you have
got to have access to | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
crisis teams 24/7 and I hope
they will do a lot better job than | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
evidently happened for Bex,
although I'm sure the professionals | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
involved were trying their very
hardest, but she is right to say | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
that this is something
that we are ramping up and it's | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
going to take a little bit of time. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:38 | |
The Government has repeated this
message over the last ten years, | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
we have had ten years
of your Government, that mental | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
health should be treated
the same as physical health. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
You have been health
Secretary for five years, | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
when is it actually going to happen? | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
It's not happening everywhere,
it is happening in some places. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
It does take time and I don't
want to pretend this is | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
something - you can't change this
by the Queen putting her signature | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
on an Act of Parliament. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
You have got got to train
thousands and thousands | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
of additional professionals -
psychiatrists, psychologists, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
talking therapists and mental
health nurses and so on. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:09 | |
We have got about 4,500 more
people working in the | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
mental health system compared
to when we came to office and about | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
1,000 more people are getting
help every single day. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
People are much more
open about mental health | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
conditions than they were before. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:21 | |
That is a really positive thing. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
But it does mean
there is an awful lot | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
more work for us to do in the NHS. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
Sometimes if you're working
in the NHS it feels | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
like we are racing just
to stand still. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
But I would never pretend
that there isn't a whole lot more | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
we can do and every time I meet
people like Bex, I'm reminded that, | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
yes, we may have made progress,
but there is a whole lot more | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
we need to do. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:49 | |
What is the wider political
reaction? We wanted to focus this on | 0:54:49 | 0:54:54 | |
people's personal stories but there
is a political angle to everything. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
This is a highly political subject.
Labour say this is another example | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
of massive cut in the NHS and mental
health funding is one of the areas | 0:55:00 | 0:55:05 | |
being cut to plug gaps elsewhere.
They say they would ring fenced | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
mental health funding. We spoke to
the Prime Minister earlier in the | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
year which was announcing another
scheme to spot the early signs of | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
mental health and she admitted to
us, she said, look, dispatch across | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
the country, it is different in
different areas. If you have a | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
crisis in one area, what happens to
you will be different. That has been | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
proven in what we have seen. And the
reaction we have got. Look at Bex, | 0:55:26 | 0:55:32 | |
she had a difficult situation, and
that was because in her area it was | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
patchy, had she been somewhere else
it might have been much better. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
That's the issue. Once you are in
the system it's pretty good, but it | 0:55:38 | 0:55:43 | |
is getting into the system, which,
for some people can be difficult. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:51 | |
Bex's story will be featuring today
on radio one. The Radio 1 iPlayer | 0:55:51 | 0:55:56 | |
page has the My Mind And Me
documentary in full on there. It is | 0:55:56 | 0:56:03 | |
worth a watch. People talk candidly
about their problems. On the news | 0:56:03 | 0:56:08 | |
channel tomorrow at 10:30am there is
a version going on out. I would urge | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
you to watch it because these people
are fantastic. And a pod cast today. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:17 | |
Well worth listening to and
watching. Thank you very much. Back | 0:56:17 | 0:56:22 | |
to Brexit. We can bring you a tweet
from Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
in response to what has been
described as a breakthrough in | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
Brexit negotiations this morning. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:30 | |
described as a breakthrough in
Brexit negotiations this morning. He | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
says congratulations to the PM for
her determination in getting today's | 0:56:33 | 0:56:37 | |
deal. We now aim to forge a deep and
special partnership with our | 0:56:37 | 0:56:42 | |
European friends and allies, while
remaining true to the referendum | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
result. Taking back control of our
laws, money, and borders the | 0:56:45 | 0:56:50 | |
result. Taking back control of our
laws, money, and borders the whole | 0:56:50 | 0:56:50 | |
of the UK. Boris Johnson there on
twitter. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
Let's get the latest weather update. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:57 | |
Lots of talk about snow this
weekend, | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
Lots of talk about snow this
weekend, what is the forecast? | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
We've had a lot already today.
Through the weekend, some of us will | 0:57:01 | 0:57:06 | |
see more. Let me show you some of
our lovely weather watchers pictures | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
taken this morning. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:10 | |
Look at the depth of that snow in
County Down. We have some lying snow | 0:57:14 | 0:57:19 | |
here, a lovely dog in the
foreground. As we keep our journey | 0:57:19 | 0:57:23 | |
going throughout the country, this
picture taken in Shropshire. Again, | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
you can see it is a beautiful scene,
almost Christmas card material. This | 0:57:26 | 0:57:32 | |
was Worcester this morning, showing
the snow falling here, as well. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:37 | |
Staying in Worcestershire, again, we
have lying snow on the ground. It | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
isn't terribly deep, but we are
looking at snow showers through the | 0:57:40 | 0:57:44 | |
course of today. This one in Argyll
and Bute. This is just the way it | 0:57:44 | 0:57:49 | |
has been shot, the camera angle,
making it look much bigger. And in | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
Aviemore, we have lying snow here,
it has been snowing quite steadily | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
as we've gone through the course of
the morning. To give you an idea of | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
the depths we have, the lying snow,
Northern Ireland currently ten | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
centimetres. And so on... | 0:58:04 | 0:58:09 | |
If you are travelling, bear that in
mind. There is the risk of ice. A | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
cold start to the day. This is where
the snow showers have been falling. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:24 | |
At the moment, we have a line coming
in through the North Channel, across | 0:58:24 | 0:58:28 | |
the Irish Sea, and in towards the
Midlands. That will keep going as we | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
go through the next few hours into
tonight and also into tomorrow. | 0:58:32 | 0:58:39 | |
Windy conditions will be left behind
once that moves away. It is a cold | 0:58:39 | 0:58:42 | |
wind blowing in from the north-west.
Blowing all of these showers into | 0:58:42 | 0:58:46 | |
the North and west. These are the
lying snow showers. They will | 0:58:46 | 0:58:50 | |
settle. England we will see further
snow showers, possibly over into the | 0:58:50 | 0:58:55 | |
east, and the south coast. We do not
expect those to settle. This | 0:58:55 | 0:58:59 | |
afternoon across Wales, we continue
with the snow showers. We also have | 0:58:59 | 0:59:03 | |
them across Northern Ireland. Still
windy, but in between them all there | 0:59:03 | 0:59:07 | |
will be sunshine. Across Scotland we
have the snow showers. Here we had a | 0:59:07 | 0:59:11 | |
lot of the strong winds, so we will
get blizzards and drifting snow. | 0:59:11 | 0:59:16 | |
Atrocious travelling conditions.
Away from that, dry conditions down | 0:59:16 | 0:59:19 | |
into the south of Scotland, and also
across northern England, away from | 0:59:19 | 0:59:22 | |
the West, all the way down through
East Anglia into Kent. We could see | 0:59:22 | 0:59:26 | |
the odd wintry flurry getting
towards the east and south-east. We | 0:59:26 | 0:59:30 | |
don't expect it to settle. We can
also seek snow flurries down towards | 0:59:30 | 0:59:34 | |
the south coast, perhaps a bit more
at times across the moors. Do this | 0:59:34 | 0:59:40 | |
evening and overnight, snow showers
continue, more or less the same | 0:59:40 | 0:59:43 | |
distribution. The wind eases a
touch. It'll be a cold night. Lots | 0:59:43 | 0:59:46 | |
of dry weather, clear skies, and
where we have the damp surfaces | 0:59:46 | 0:59:50 | |
there is the risk of ice in the
north and the West. Under clearer | 0:59:50 | 0:59:54 | |
skies, temperatures will drop, these
are indicative of towns and cities. | 0:59:54 | 0:59:57 | |
But where we have lying snow in the
north of Scotland feel colder than | 0:59:57 | 1:00:00 | |
that. Into tomorrow morning, a cold
and frosty start. Still some snow | 1:00:00 | 1:00:06 | |
showers around. Again, in the same
kind of areas. We will not see all | 1:00:06 | 1:00:11 | |
of -- we will not all see the snow
showers. Tomorrow, dry weather, a | 1:00:11 | 1:00:16 | |
crisp, Winter's, sunny day.
Temperatures, nothing to write home | 1:00:16 | 1:00:20 | |
about. It'll feel cold if you are
stepping out. This one has been | 1:00:20 | 1:00:25 | |
giving us a headache because as it
comes in it will bring in rain, and | 1:00:25 | 1:00:28 | |
on its leading edge it will bring
snow. At the moment we think | 1:00:28 | 1:00:32 | |
Northern Ireland, Wales, part of the
Midlands, just north of the M4 | 1:00:32 | 1:00:35 | |
corridor heading to the east, but
that could change so keep updated | 1:00:35 | 1:00:38 | |
with the weather forecast. | 1:00:38 | 1:00:43 | |
The deadlock is broken in the first
stage of the Brexit talks, | 1:00:43 | 1:00:46 | |
allowing negotiations to move
on to the subject of trade. | 1:00:46 | 1:00:49 | |
Theresa May flew to Brussels early
this morning to agree the deal, | 1:00:49 | 1:00:52 | |
which includes protecting the rights
of EU citizens here and a million | 1:00:52 | 1:00:55 | |
British expats as well as no hard
border with Ireland. | 1:00:55 | 1:01:05 | |
Getting to this point has required
give and take on both sides, and I | 1:01:06 | 1:01:11 | |
believe that the joint report being
published is in the best interests | 1:01:11 | 1:01:14 | |
of the whole of the UK. I very much
welcome the prospect of moving ahead | 1:01:14 | 1:01:18 | |
to the next phase to talk about
trade and security and to discuss | 1:01:18 | 1:01:23 | |
the positive and ambitious future
relationship that is in all of our | 1:01:23 | 1:01:26 | |
interests. | 1:01:26 | 1:01:28 | |
We'll get reaction from migrants
workers, living here in the UK. | 1:01:28 | 1:01:30 | |
We have a special report
on the impact on children | 1:01:30 | 1:01:36 | |
of living in a family
where there's domestic violence. | 1:01:36 | 1:01:42 | |
I see the massive effect it has had
on them. You would be in the middle | 1:01:42 | 1:01:45 | |
of having a fight and you would have
eye contact with the kids and you | 1:01:45 | 1:01:48 | |
could see the fear and you would not
know what to do because you could | 1:01:48 | 1:01:51 | |
not get out of the situation... | 1:01:51 | 1:01:54 | |
We'll hear the Children's
Commissioner's proposals shortly. | 1:01:54 | 1:01:59 | |
It is one of the most-eagerly
awaited fixtures in | 1:01:59 | 1:02:02 | |
the football calendar - | 1:02:02 | 1:02:03 | |
this Sunday's Manchester derby sees
United play arch rivals | 1:02:03 | 1:02:05 | |
City at Old Trafford. | 1:02:05 | 1:02:06 | |
We'll hear from some fans hoping
for very different results. | 1:02:06 | 1:02:10 | |
Good morning. | 1:02:10 | 1:02:12 | |
Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom
with a summary of todays news. | 1:02:12 | 1:02:15 | |
Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom
with a summary of today's news. | 1:02:15 | 1:02:21 | |
Good morning. | 1:02:21 | 1:02:22 | |
There's been a major breakthrough
in the Brexit talks. | 1:02:22 | 1:02:24 | |
The European Commission now says
"sufficient progress" has been | 1:02:24 | 1:02:26 | |
made in the first stage
of the negotiations - | 1:02:26 | 1:02:28 | |
about citizen's rights,
the Irish border and the size | 1:02:28 | 1:02:31 | |
of the so-called divorce
bill - that we can move | 1:02:31 | 1:02:33 | |
on to the second stagE. | 1:02:33 | 1:02:34 | |
on to the second stage. | 1:02:34 | 1:02:35 | |
That'll be about Britain's future
relationship with the EU - | 1:02:35 | 1:02:38 | |
and in particular, the shape of any
deal on trade. | 1:02:38 | 1:02:41 | |
Speaking this morning,
Theresa May said she would write | 1:02:41 | 1:02:43 | |
to the people of Northern Ireland
to set out the deal, following this | 1:02:43 | 1:02:46 | |
week's sticking point. | 1:02:46 | 1:02:50 | |
In Northern Ireland, we will
guarantee that there will be no hard | 1:02:50 | 1:02:52 | |
border. And we will uphold the
Belfast agreement. And in doing so, | 1:02:52 | 1:02:56 | |
we will continue to preserve the
constitutional and economic | 1:02:56 | 1:03:00 | |
integrity of the United Kingdom. We
have taken time this week to | 1:03:00 | 1:03:06 | |
strengthen and clarify this part of
the agreement, following discussions | 1:03:06 | 1:03:10 | |
with unionists in Northern Ireland
and across the UK. The Taoiseach, | 1:03:10 | 1:03:15 | |
Leo Varadkar, and I spoke yesterday
and we have both committed that | 1:03:15 | 1:03:18 | |
there should be no barriers either
north or south or east or west, and | 1:03:18 | 1:03:21 | |
I believe this agreement delivers
that. | 1:03:21 | 1:03:27 | |
Donald Tusk, President
of the EU Council, | 1:03:27 | 1:03:30 | |
said he was pleased with today's
developments but warned | 1:03:30 | 1:03:32 | |
there was still so much to do. | 1:03:32 | 1:03:34 | |
Let us remember that the most
difficult challenge is still ahead. | 1:03:34 | 1:03:39 | |
We all know that breaking up is
hard. But breaking up and building a | 1:03:39 | 1:03:45 | |
new relation is much harder. Since
the brusque sick referendum, a year | 1:03:45 | 1:03:52 | |
and a half has passed. -- since the
Brexit referendum. So much time has | 1:03:52 | 1:03:57 | |
been devoted to the easier part of
the task. And now, to negotiate a | 1:03:57 | 1:04:02 | |
transition arrangement and the
framework for our future | 1:04:02 | 1:04:09 | |
relationship, we have de facto less
than a year. | 1:04:09 | 1:04:14 | |
A "day of rage" is being planned
by Palestinians angered by America's | 1:04:14 | 1:04:17 | |
recognition of Jerusalem
as the capital of Israel. | 1:04:17 | 1:04:19 | |
Around 30 demonstrators were injured
in clashes with Israeli forces | 1:04:19 | 1:04:21 | |
in the West Bank yesterday. | 1:04:21 | 1:04:22 | |
The US has warned Palestinians
against cancelling talks | 1:04:22 | 1:04:29 | |
with vice-President
Mike Pence, who will visit | 1:04:29 | 1:04:32 | |
the Middle East in less
than two weeks' time. | 1:04:32 | 1:04:34 | |
A student who died weeks
after starting at university | 1:04:34 | 1:04:36 | |
was failed by "every NHS
organisation that should have cared | 1:04:36 | 1:04:39 | |
for her", a review has found. | 1:04:39 | 1:04:40 | |
Averil Hart, who was 19,
died of a heart attack caused | 1:04:40 | 1:04:43 | |
by anorexia in 2012. | 1:04:43 | 1:04:44 | |
The Parliamentary and
Health Service Ombudsman | 1:04:44 | 1:04:45 | |
says her death could and should
have been prevented. | 1:04:45 | 1:04:47 | |
NHS England has apologised, and says
it is making "real progress" | 1:04:47 | 1:04:50 | |
with eating disorder services. | 1:04:50 | 1:04:56 | |
Snow, ice and windy conditions
are set to sweep across large | 1:04:56 | 1:05:00 | |
parts of the UK today. | 1:05:00 | 1:05:01 | |
Severe gales have already
caused disruption to air, | 1:05:01 | 1:05:03 | |
rail and ferry services. | 1:05:03 | 1:05:04 | |
Yellow "be aware" weather
warnings have been issued | 1:05:04 | 1:05:06 | |
across much of Scotland,
Northern Ireland, Wales | 1:05:06 | 1:05:11 | |
and north-west England -
with up to eight inches of snow | 1:05:11 | 1:05:15 | |
expected in some areas. | 1:05:15 | 1:05:18 | |
A number of new wildfires have
started in southern California, | 1:05:18 | 1:05:21 | |
stretching firefighters
to the limit. | 1:05:21 | 1:05:23 | |
Nearly 200,000 people have now been
evacuated from their homes. | 1:05:23 | 1:05:26 | |
Planes have been diverted to one
of the latest blazes | 1:05:26 | 1:05:29 | |
in the county of San Diego,
and officials say more than 400 | 1:05:29 | 1:05:32 | |
buildings have been destroyed. | 1:05:32 | 1:05:34 | |
A state of emergency
has been declared. | 1:05:34 | 1:05:40 | |
If universities in England
were banks, they could be accused | 1:05:40 | 1:05:43 | |
of misselling courses to teenagers
who have little understanding | 1:05:43 | 1:05:46 | |
of money matters -
that's according to the head | 1:05:46 | 1:05:49 | |
of the public spending watchdog. | 1:05:49 | 1:05:50 | |
Sir Amyas Morse says universities
are under very little competitive | 1:05:50 | 1:05:53 | |
pressure to provide the best value,
and young people were taking out | 1:05:53 | 1:05:56 | |
large loans to pay for tuition fees
without much effective | 1:05:56 | 1:05:58 | |
help or advice. | 1:05:58 | 1:06:00 | |
The government says its reforms
were helping students | 1:06:00 | 1:06:02 | |
to make informed choices. | 1:06:02 | 1:06:07 | |
Consumers are being warned that
current safety checks on fridges | 1:06:07 | 1:06:10 | |
and freezers are inadequate,
and that some products with plastic | 1:06:10 | 1:06:12 | |
backings are a potential fire risk. | 1:06:12 | 1:06:16 | |
The warning has been made
by the consumer group Which?, | 1:06:16 | 1:06:18 | |
which has called for tighter
new standards to be brought forward. | 1:06:18 | 1:06:22 | |
The body responsible says it's
working hard to introduce them. | 1:06:22 | 1:06:27 | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC
News - more at 10.30. | 1:06:27 | 1:06:36 | |
Here's some sport now with Hugh. | 1:06:36 | 1:06:40 | |
I don't think there will ever be a
definitive answer as to who the best | 1:06:40 | 1:06:46 | |
ever footballer is, but Cristiano
Ronaldo will always be in the | 1:06:46 | 1:06:49 | |
conversation I think, because once
again he was named the world's best | 1:06:49 | 1:06:53 | |
player last night, equalling Lionel
Messi by winning his fifth Balon | 1:06:53 | 1:06:56 | |
d'Or awarded to him in Paris. After
49 goals so far in 2017, he says | 1:06:56 | 1:07:02 | |
there is more to come. I still have
the motivation, you know, to be | 1:07:02 | 1:07:10 | |
Cristiano, to play with happiness.
So, I think the main word, it's | 1:07:10 | 1:07:16 | |
happy, enjoy myself. It was quite a
landmark for Arsenal manager Arsene | 1:07:16 | 1:07:22 | |
Wenger last night. They beat BATE
Borisov in the Europa League and it | 1:07:22 | 1:07:26 | |
was his 700th game in charge of
Arsenal. It was 6-0. Jack Wilshere | 1:07:26 | 1:07:33 | |
and Theo Walcott both scored before
Mohamed Elneny completed the rout. | 1:07:33 | 1:07:36 | |
Arsenal go through as group winners.
The line-up for the quarterfinals at | 1:07:36 | 1:07:47 | |
the UK Djemai is complete but Ronnie
O'Sullivan was pushed hard by Sunny | 1:07:47 | 1:07:54 | |
Akani, a man 20 years his junior. At
one stage she was just one frame | 1:07:54 | 1:07:57 | |
from victory but O'Sullivan fought
back rather fortunately in the end, | 1:07:57 | 1:08:01 | |
saying he felt like he had dropped
his opponent. He put up a great | 1:08:01 | 1:08:08 | |
performance. His first time out
there, and, you know, he played a | 1:08:08 | 1:08:15 | |
lot better than I did, really, and
he probably deserved to win. I got | 1:08:15 | 1:08:21 | |
very, very lucky there tonight. I'm
kind of relieved to win, but I've | 1:08:21 | 1:08:24 | |
really got to improve on that if I'm
to have any chance winning another | 1:08:24 | 1:08:28 | |
match, really. England bowler Moeen
Ali says the team still believe they | 1:08:28 | 1:08:32 | |
can turn the Ashes series around
despite trailing 2-0 after that big | 1:08:32 | 1:08:38 | |
defeat in Adelaide. Moeen Ali did
not bowl as much as he would have | 1:08:38 | 1:08:41 | |
liked because of an injury to his
finger, but he says that will be | 1:08:41 | 1:08:45 | |
healed in time for the next Test in
Perth, which starts next Thursday. | 1:08:45 | 1:08:49 | |
We took a lot out of Adelaide. For
the first couple of days we were | 1:08:49 | 1:08:54 | |
poor and then we started to fight
back. That fight has brought us | 1:08:54 | 1:08:58 | |
closer together as a team, and we've
got three games to put it right. We | 1:08:58 | 1:09:05 | |
did have a slight chance, but we've
got a good enough team and we've | 1:09:05 | 1:09:09 | |
shown enough fight in this team that
we can compete. Plenty of work for | 1:09:09 | 1:09:13 | |
England to do. And Moeen Ali will
hope to be influential. That's the | 1:09:13 | 1:09:17 | |
sport for now. | 1:09:17 | 1:09:21 | |
Let's
go back to Brexit now, | 1:09:21 | 1:09:25 | |
and get more reaction to the talks
overnight in Brussels, which are | 1:09:25 | 1:09:28 | |
being described as a breakthrough. | 1:09:28 | 1:09:29 | |
The European Commission says enough
progress has been made - | 1:09:29 | 1:09:31 | |
about citizen's rights,
the Irish border and the size | 1:09:31 | 1:09:34 | |
of the so-called divorce bill -
to move onto the second stage | 1:09:34 | 1:09:36 | |
of talks, including
trade negotiations. | 1:09:36 | 1:09:39 | |
One of the main sticking points was
the issue of which caught would | 1:09:39 | 1:09:43 | |
guarantee the rights of EU citizens
in the UK. This is what the Prime | 1:09:43 | 1:09:47 | |
Minister had to say. The deal we've
struck will guarantee the rights of | 1:09:47 | 1:09:51 | |
more than 3 million EU citizens
living in the UK and of 1 million UK | 1:09:51 | 1:09:56 | |
citizens living in the EU. EU
citizens living in the UK will have | 1:09:56 | 1:10:00 | |
the rights enshrined in UK law and
enforced a British court. They will | 1:10:00 | 1:10:05 | |
be able to go on living their lives
as before. I was clear in Florence | 1:10:05 | 1:10:10 | |
that we are a country that honours
our obligations. After some tough | 1:10:10 | 1:10:14 | |
conversations, we've now agreed a
settlement that is fair to the | 1:10:14 | 1:10:17 | |
British taxpayer. It means that in
future, we will be able to invest | 1:10:17 | 1:10:20 | |
more in our priorities at home, such
as housing, schools and the NHS. The | 1:10:20 | 1:10:26 | |
Irish prime ministers welcome to the
deal and said the conditions were | 1:10:26 | 1:10:29 | |
now in place for the next phase of
negotiations to start. We have | 1:10:29 | 1:10:33 | |
achieved all that we set out to
achieve in the first phase of these | 1:10:33 | 1:10:42 | |
negotiations. We have support from
the European Union and guarantees | 1:10:42 | 1:10:46 | |
from the United Kingdom. I am now
satisfied that sufficient progress | 1:10:46 | 1:10:49 | |
has been made on the Irish issues.
The parameters have been set and | 1:10:49 | 1:10:55 | |
they are good. Now, we can move on
to work out the detail and talk | 1:10:55 | 1:11:00 | |
about the transition phase, free
trade and the new relationship | 1:11:00 | 1:11:03 | |
between the EU and the UK. | 1:11:03 | 1:11:12 | |
But the European Union's
chief Brexit negotiator, | 1:11:12 | 1:11:14 | |
Michel Barnier, warned that there
were still difficulties to be faced, | 1:11:14 | 1:11:16 | |
and little time to tackle them. | 1:11:16 | 1:11:18 | |
My recommendation,
and the recommendation | 1:11:18 | 1:11:20 | |
of the college of commissioners,
is that the progress | 1:11:20 | 1:11:22 | |
achieved today is sufficient
to move to the next phase. | 1:11:22 | 1:11:27 | |
It's now up to the European Council
to decide whether this constitutes | 1:11:27 | 1:11:30 | |
sufficient progress and to move
the talks to the next stage. | 1:11:30 | 1:11:37 | |
We will then have completed
the first chapter of this | 1:11:37 | 1:11:41 | |
extraordinary negotiation. | 1:11:41 | 1:11:44 | |
Our political correspondent
Chris Mason is in Westminster. | 1:11:44 | 1:11:51 | |
A lot has happened between the
Downing Street Christmas party last | 1:11:51 | 1:11:55 | |
night and this morning. Can you
bring us up to speed with what's | 1:11:55 | 1:11:59 | |
happened and I understand you have
some more detail on the actual text | 1:11:59 | 1:12:01 | |
what? Will work entering through the
clips of the main players, and was a | 1:12:01 | 1:12:11 | |
long night, there will be still
people in Downing Street talking | 1:12:11 | 1:12:15 | |
about what a long evening it has
been, because there hasn't been a | 1:12:15 | 1:12:18 | |
huge amount of sleep in the upper
echelon is of the British | 1:12:18 | 1:12:21 | |
Government. The Prime Minister and
David Davis jumping on a plane in | 1:12:21 | 1:12:25 | |
the middle of the night to get out
to Brussels in time for those news | 1:12:25 | 1:12:30 | |
conferences which happened early
this morning. As those were | 1:12:30 | 1:12:33 | |
happening, along came this document.
This is the document published | 1:12:33 | 1:12:37 | |
steamy joint report from the
negotiators of the European Union | 1:12:37 | 1:12:39 | |
and the United Kingdom government.
In other words, where the | 1:12:39 | 1:12:43 | |
compromises have been found. And
yes, there are compromises in here. | 1:12:43 | 1:12:47 | |
For instance, on the issue of
citizens rights, there is a clear | 1:12:47 | 1:12:51 | |
line in here which says that the the
Supreme Court of the European Union, | 1:12:51 | 1:12:56 | |
the European Court of Justice, will
maintain a role in the UK after | 1:12:56 | 1:13:02 | |
Brexit regarding the rights of the
EU citizens who are living here in | 1:13:02 | 1:13:06 | |
the UK after Brexit. Downing Street
points out that this is only likely | 1:13:06 | 1:13:09 | |
to involve a handful of cases but it
is an insight into a compromises. | 1:13:09 | 1:13:14 | |
Nigel Farage, the former leader of
Ukip, has described this as | 1:13:14 | 1:13:21 | |
amounting to no Brexit. He sees it
as a comprised 25. But from the | 1:13:21 | 1:13:30 | |
Prime Minister's perspective,
firstly publishing has a deal, which | 1:13:30 | 1:13:32 | |
is triumph compared to she was with
a few -- just a few days ago, with | 1:13:32 | 1:13:39 | |
that humiliation in Brussels earlier
in the week. There was even talk of | 1:13:39 | 1:13:43 | |
could there be a general election in
the New Year? In that sense it is a | 1:13:43 | 1:13:47 | |
triumph for the Prime Minister. Lots
of her cabin at this morning leaping | 1:13:47 | 1:13:50 | |
out of the blocks to appear on the
telly or the radio or on social | 1:13:50 | 1:13:54 | |
media to say how well the Prime
Minister has done. At, and this is a | 1:13:54 | 1:13:58 | |
really big but, and I no pesky
reporters like me like to say this, | 1:13:58 | 1:14:02 | |
but it is true, what is coming next,
the negotiation about the future | 1:14:02 | 1:14:08 | |
relationship with the European
Union, as opposed to on picking the | 1:14:08 | 1:14:11 | |
current relationship bubble is going
to be just as complicated if not | 1:14:11 | 1:14:14 | |
more so, and with just as many
moments, where there are three steps | 1:14:14 | 1:14:18 | |
forward and four back. Sorting out
what the UK's relationship with our | 1:14:18 | 1:14:22 | |
nearest neighbours is going to look
like for the next generation and | 1:14:22 | 1:14:27 | |
beyond in a very tight time frame
next year is also going to be an | 1:14:27 | 1:14:31 | |
almighty challenge. So, a big moment
for the Prime Minister today but a | 1:14:31 | 1:14:34 | |
big challenge still to come. | 1:14:34 | 1:14:37 | |
Bob Padron runs a care business
employing EU citizens. | 1:14:37 | 1:14:40 | |
Pawel Ozechowski is an EU citizen,
and is in our Edinburgh newsroom. | 1:14:40 | 1:14:45 | |
And Olga Garcia is a
Spanish migrant worker. | 1:14:45 | 1:14:53 | |
Before we speak to you, Olga, let's
hear what you had to say when you | 1:14:53 | 1:14:58 | |
appeared on the programme last year,
shortly after Britons voted to leave | 1:14:58 | 1:15:01 | |
the EU. Well, the first thing is,
after four years, I don't know what | 1:15:01 | 1:15:08 | |
is going to happen. Next year I can
ask for dual nationality, and most | 1:15:08 | 1:15:14 | |
of my work colleagues and
everything, they cannot do that. | 1:15:14 | 1:15:17 | |
They don't know what is going to
happen in the future. To be honest, | 1:15:17 | 1:15:20 | |
nobody knows. | 1:15:20 | 1:15:27 | |
How does it feel listening to
yourself and your reaction a year | 1:15:27 | 1:15:30 | |
ago, and how do you feel now? This
is great news to be honest. I feel | 1:15:30 | 1:15:36 | |
much more relaxed now regarding my
future in the UK. I think a lot of | 1:15:36 | 1:15:42 | |
the UK citizens will feel the same.
Why is that, is that just based on | 1:15:42 | 1:15:47 | |
Theresa May now this morning saying
that EU citizens rights, all 3 | 1:15:47 | 1:15:52 | |
million living in the UK, would be
protected? Yes, it's because at the | 1:15:52 | 1:15:57 | |
end of the day every day is, like,
you don't know what will happen. But | 1:15:57 | 1:16:02 | |
right now at least you see an end.
We can be relaxed. Most of the | 1:16:02 | 1:16:09 | |
people already here living in the
UK, we can be relaxed, and that's | 1:16:09 | 1:16:13 | |
good news for me. What has the past
year been like for you, living with | 1:16:13 | 1:16:17 | |
that uncertainty about your future?
I understand you work here. Yes, it | 1:16:17 | 1:16:24 | |
was a bit stressful, because most of
my colleagues, we are all from | 1:16:24 | 1:16:30 | |
abroad. So we don't know what is
going to happen. We don't know if we | 1:16:30 | 1:16:34 | |
can stay here or if we have to leave
because of our jobs, so it was very | 1:16:34 | 1:16:39 | |
stressful. How do you feel today?
I'm slightly relieved we are moving | 1:16:39 | 1:16:44 | |
forward with everything. However
when you read the media they all | 1:16:44 | 1:16:50 | |
talk about personal victory of
Theresa May, rather than victory of | 1:16:50 | 1:16:54 | |
Britain. I would like to see how
this is actually going to come out | 1:16:54 | 1:16:57 | |
for Britain and us, people born
outside of Britain. Tell us about | 1:16:57 | 1:17:03 | |
how you ended up in the UK in the
first place? You are in Edinburgh, | 1:17:03 | 1:17:07 | |
aren't you? I've lived in Edinburgh
for about 13 years. I'm still not a | 1:17:07 | 1:17:12 | |
UK citizen because I did my
doctorate in the middle of that | 1:17:12 | 1:17:16 | |
stay. With the new rules it resets
your five years. But I've been here. | 1:17:16 | 1:17:21 | |
I fell in love with this most
beautiful country in the world. Now | 1:17:21 | 1:17:25 | |
I live here, I have family here, I
own property here, I have a | 1:17:25 | 1:17:28 | |
wonderful career. I understand you
said you bought your property the | 1:17:28 | 1:17:33 | |
day before Brexit, and wouldn't have
purchased it had unanimous all. | 1:17:33 | 1:17:37 | |
Absolutely. It was the saddest day
of my life on many levels, because | 1:17:37 | 1:17:43 | |
that's the most uncertain financial
decision I've ever made. Just | 1:17:43 | 1:17:47 | |
imagine being tied to a place for 20
years, that -- however long the | 1:17:47 | 1:17:53 | |
mortgage last, and you cannot be
here. Even care business. How does | 1:17:53 | 1:17:59 | |
it affect you? It left a major clout
in terms of contingency planning | 1:17:59 | 1:18:05 | |
need to put in place. -- you have a
care business. The status of our | 1:18:05 | 1:18:12 | |
current EU national staff was put in
jeopardy. It relieves that stress. | 1:18:12 | 1:18:16 | |
In the grand scheme of social care,
there is an unprecedented | 1:18:16 | 1:18:20 | |
recruitment crisis that existed
before Brexit. This guarantee of the | 1:18:20 | 1:18:30 | |
status quo, only makes things less
bad, things are still very difficult | 1:18:30 | 1:18:34 | |
in terms of recruitment in social
care. But, of course, the impact of | 1:18:34 | 1:18:39 | |
the Brexit vote on social care has
been severe. We have done our best | 1:18:39 | 1:18:45 | |
to insulated ourselves from these
consequences. Give us a sense of how | 1:18:45 | 1:18:50 | |
many people you employ from the EU.
80%. Roughly 80% of our staff are | 1:18:50 | 1:18:57 | |
from the EU. I know that is much
higher than the sector. I think the | 1:18:57 | 1:19:01 | |
sector is one out of 20. And the
business operates in the UK? Yes, | 1:19:01 | 1:19:07 | |
north London. People watching might
be thinking why aren't you making | 1:19:07 | 1:19:10 | |
more of an effort to employ British
workers? We employ the best people | 1:19:10 | 1:19:15 | |
who can work in social care, whether
they are from Britain, the EU, | 1:19:15 | 1:19:19 | |
elsewhere, and we do that by
providing good working conditions. | 1:19:19 | 1:19:23 | |
We are one of the few home-care
providers that pays higher than the | 1:19:23 | 1:19:26 | |
living wage. I know there is a
controversy about sleeping shifts. | 1:19:26 | 1:19:32 | |
We've always paid at least the
minimum wage for sleeping shifts. We | 1:19:32 | 1:19:36 | |
had done our best in terms of
working conditions to attract | 1:19:36 | 1:19:41 | |
locals. But at the end of the day,
if people do not want to do this | 1:19:41 | 1:19:44 | |
job, we need to look for people who
do. I use saying British people are | 1:19:44 | 1:19:48 | |
not applying for those jobs?
Exactly. -- are you saying. It might | 1:19:48 | 1:19:53 | |
be where we are in London. I know
our proportion of EU nationals is | 1:19:53 | 1:19:57 | |
higher than the national. It could
be our location. I don't have a | 1:19:57 | 1:20:02 | |
reason for that. Of course, we are
agnostic about where our staff come | 1:20:02 | 1:20:07 | |
from. We just want whoever cares
about looking after vulnerable | 1:20:07 | 1:20:11 | |
people, who can do a good job, we
will consider to hire them and train | 1:20:11 | 1:20:15 | |
them. We hope that more British born
people will enter social care. But | 1:20:15 | 1:20:22 | |
if there is difficulties recruiting
local staff, then we need to recruit | 1:20:22 | 1:20:27 | |
whoever is willing to step up and do
the hard work that social care is. | 1:20:27 | 1:20:33 | |
But it is important and vital work.
Thank you for talking to us this | 1:20:33 | 1:20:37 | |
morning. | 1:20:37 | 1:20:37 | |
The Children's Commissioner
for England is calling on the prime | 1:20:37 | 1:20:40 | |
minister to put protection in place
for every child who is living | 1:20:40 | 1:20:42 | |
in a house with domestic violence. | 1:20:42 | 1:20:44 | |
Latest statistics show another rise,
year on year in the number | 1:20:44 | 1:20:47 | |
of domestic violence incidents
police are dealing with, | 1:20:47 | 1:20:48 | |
in England and Wales. | 1:20:48 | 1:20:50 | |
It comes as the NSPCC has recorded
a rise in the number of calls | 1:20:50 | 1:20:53 | |
to Childline from children concerned
about domestic abuse. | 1:20:53 | 1:20:58 | |
Earlier you saw a report
from Jeremy Cooke showing the impact | 1:20:58 | 1:21:01 | |
of domestic violence on children
in Northumbria - | 1:21:01 | 1:21:03 | |
here's a short extract. | 1:21:03 | 1:21:06 | |
Northumbria Police... | 1:21:08 | 1:21:09 | |
At the 999 call desk,
domestic abuse is a constant theme. | 1:21:09 | 1:21:17 | |
A domestic with a report
of somebody having been | 1:21:17 | 1:21:20 | |
stabbed with a screwdriver. | 1:21:20 | 1:21:21 | |
Calls for help 24/7. | 1:21:21 | 1:21:22 | |
Do you have children? | 1:21:22 | 1:21:23 | |
The immediate task -
to get the facts. | 1:21:23 | 1:21:25 | |
And if a child is present
it is a maximum priority case. | 1:21:25 | 1:21:31 | |
She said her partner or ex-partner
threatened to beat her and her | 1:21:31 | 1:21:34 | |
12-year-old child up. | 1:21:34 | 1:21:35 | |
So we're going to get somebody
up there straightaway. | 1:21:35 | 1:21:37 | |
Children can and do
suffer direct abuse. | 1:21:37 | 1:21:43 | |
But they also witness violence
and there is a growing recognition | 1:21:43 | 1:21:45 | |
of the long-term damage. | 1:21:45 | 1:21:49 | |
There's lots of evidence about
adverse childhood experiences - | 1:21:49 | 1:21:52 | |
of which this is the most common,
domestic abuse - and what a long | 1:21:52 | 1:21:56 | |
impact it can have
on people's ability to learn, | 1:21:56 | 1:21:58 | |
their ability to make relationships,
perhaps turning to crime | 1:21:58 | 1:22:00 | |
because they have chaotic lives. | 1:22:00 | 1:22:04 | |
I've had black eyes,
I've had elbows and knees and my | 1:22:04 | 1:22:07 | |
head would be bashed off something. | 1:22:07 | 1:22:09 | |
Jane finally fled after she and her
kids endured almost five | 1:22:09 | 1:22:12 | |
years of domestic abuse. | 1:22:12 | 1:22:14 | |
We've changed her name to protect
her and to protect the children. | 1:22:14 | 1:22:22 | |
I see the massive effect
it's had on them. | 1:22:22 | 1:22:25 | |
You would be in the middle of having
this fight and you would be | 1:22:25 | 1:22:28 | |
looking at your kids,
you would have eye contact | 1:22:28 | 1:22:30 | |
with your kids and you could see
the fear and them crying and stuff | 1:22:30 | 1:22:33 | |
and you wouldn't know what to do,
because you can't get | 1:22:33 | 1:22:36 | |
out of the situation. | 1:22:36 | 1:22:37 | |
And I just felt myself
like apologising to them a lot | 1:22:37 | 1:22:40 | |
and I didn't know how to deal
with it and I hated the fact | 1:22:40 | 1:22:43 | |
that they were so confused by it. | 1:22:43 | 1:22:45 | |
Now we can speak to Lynn Smillie,
whose father tragically | 1:22:45 | 1:22:47 | |
killed her mother in a domestic
violence attack when | 1:22:47 | 1:22:49 | |
she was a child. | 1:22:49 | 1:22:55 | |
You might find some of the details
of her story distressing. We really | 1:22:55 | 1:22:59 | |
appreciate you coming onto the
programme this morning. No problem. | 1:22:59 | 1:23:05 | |
Can you tell us about your
experience of growing up as a child | 1:23:05 | 1:23:10 | |
in a home where your father was
violent towards your mother. Of | 1:23:10 | 1:23:13 | |
course. It was just constant. It was
as far back as I could remember. It | 1:23:13 | 1:23:20 | |
was any time during the week. It did
not have to be at weekends or when | 1:23:20 | 1:23:24 | |
there was any drink or anything
involved. It could happen in the | 1:23:24 | 1:23:30 | |
quietest of atmospheres. Then the
atmosphere would change. Dad would | 1:23:30 | 1:23:34 | |
just erupt out of nothing. For no
reason. No reason at all. He would | 1:23:34 | 1:23:41 | |
beat mum up and sometimes chase her
into the street where he would do | 1:23:41 | 1:23:44 | |
this in the middle of the street,
and there were people passing by. | 1:23:44 | 1:23:49 | |
What did you do whilst this was
happening? What was going through | 1:23:49 | 1:23:52 | |
your mind and how old were you? As
far back as I can remember, which is | 1:23:52 | 1:23:58 | |
about three, four, we were still in
Glasgow at the time. We moved to | 1:23:58 | 1:24:01 | |
Aberdeen for a better life as family
members had put it. So it just | 1:24:01 | 1:24:08 | |
continued. It was when we moved away
it was more isolating because family | 1:24:08 | 1:24:13 | |
members who knew what was going on
were not there to run to. I felt | 1:24:13 | 1:24:19 | |
more isolated. When it happened at
the time I would always try and | 1:24:19 | 1:24:24 | |
reason with dad, try and calm him
down, scream enough for him to stop, | 1:24:24 | 1:24:29 | |
to let him know how much fear he was
putting into us. It was me, my | 1:24:29 | 1:24:34 | |
sister, and my mum. Some of your
family members knew what was going | 1:24:34 | 1:24:39 | |
on. Did they try to intervene at any
point? Always. They tried to | 1:24:39 | 1:24:46 | |
intervene before I was born.
Persuading mum that she deserved | 1:24:46 | 1:24:50 | |
better. That she could have a better
life and a better person in her life | 1:24:50 | 1:24:55 | |
that wouldn't do this to her. And
she was in love and she believed | 1:24:55 | 1:24:59 | |
that he would change. He was so
convincing that he would change. And | 1:24:59 | 1:25:04 | |
he showed often that he would change
for a spell, for a period of time. | 1:25:04 | 1:25:10 | |
And so she had something to go on
that he has potential to change, and | 1:25:10 | 1:25:14 | |
that he could be the father she
drained he would be, and husband, as | 1:25:14 | 1:25:19 | |
well. How did it affect you? -- she
dreamt he would be. I didn't really | 1:25:19 | 1:25:33 | |
have a childhood. I had to walk away
from my childhood to be concerned | 1:25:33 | 1:25:39 | |
about the parent in the home. It was
constant fear. Reading atmospheres. | 1:25:39 | 1:25:45 | |
Watching behaviour. Studying when it
was going to kick off that day or | 1:25:45 | 1:25:50 | |
evening. I could tell. There were
warning signs that would let me | 1:25:50 | 1:25:55 | |
know. So very early on I would try
to avoid or make the situation happy | 1:25:55 | 1:26:00 | |
or do something to stop that
happening. I thought I could | 1:26:00 | 1:26:05 | |
manipulate the situation by cleaning
the home, to bring something for my | 1:26:05 | 1:26:07 | |
parents that would stop that
happening. How were you at school? | 1:26:07 | 1:26:12 | |
Did you tell anybody what was
happening at home? Eventually I did. | 1:26:12 | 1:26:17 | |
But for a long time school was a
place where I picked up different | 1:26:17 | 1:26:21 | |
identities from my school friends. I
was very good at pretending that | 1:26:21 | 1:26:25 | |
home was OK. If I told anyone then I
was scared they would treat me | 1:26:25 | 1:26:31 | |
differently and they would believe
me, which is often the case. There | 1:26:31 | 1:26:35 | |
was an incident where at home one
evening mum came through to me in | 1:26:35 | 1:26:40 | |
the middle of the night and she
flung herself over my legs and dad | 1:26:40 | 1:26:46 | |
had an axe above her head. It really
seems like he was about to put that | 1:26:46 | 1:26:52 | |
in her skull. I screamed, we
screamed, he stopped, and the next | 1:26:52 | 1:26:56 | |
day I went to the teacher at the
school because I couldn't stand it | 1:26:56 | 1:27:00 | |
any longer. I knew the risks that we
were possibly going to be taken into | 1:27:00 | 1:27:05 | |
care with me disclosing to the
teacher. Stay with us. We will come | 1:27:05 | 1:27:10 | |
back to you. Listening to you,
Elizabeth joins us. | 1:27:10 | 1:27:18 | |
Welcome to the programme, both of
you. Lynn's experience is why you | 1:27:21 | 1:27:32 | |
started your work at Compass. What
work have you done to help children | 1:27:32 | 1:27:42 | |
in these cases? We have put in a
simple but impactful system. | 1:27:42 | 1:27:47 | |
Whenever the police attend a
domestic violence call, and their | 1:27:47 | 1:27:52 | |
children in the home, they will
contact the school prior to the next | 1:27:52 | 1:27:56 | |
school day and tell a trained key
adult what has happened in the home. | 1:27:56 | 1:28:02 | |
That enables us, as a school, to
support that child within school. We | 1:28:02 | 1:28:08 | |
can be ready for how they might be
feeling and we can support them and | 1:28:08 | 1:28:12 | |
enable them to have a good day
within school. Can you tell us | 1:28:12 | 1:28:16 | |
practically what happens? If you get
that phone call, something is | 1:28:16 | 1:28:22 | |
flanked, in a school what would
happen? What would a teacher do if a | 1:28:22 | 1:28:26 | |
child comes into school? What would
they say? -- something is flagged. I | 1:28:26 | 1:28:36 | |
would speak to the child's teacher.
We will discuss the things we might | 1:28:36 | 1:28:39 | |
or might not put in place. One of
the most simple things is to make | 1:28:39 | 1:28:43 | |
sure we greet that child with a
smile. Because there is a lot of | 1:28:43 | 1:28:49 | |
research about how we look, how our
body language is displayed, it can | 1:28:49 | 1:28:56 | |
affect a child negatively,
especially somebody who has been | 1:28:56 | 1:28:58 | |
through a traumatic experience the
night before. There is no one size | 1:28:58 | 1:29:02 | |
fits all. Schools are aware of the
individual children. If a child has | 1:29:02 | 1:29:09 | |
been through an incident the night
before, the child may come from what | 1:29:09 | 1:29:15 | |
has been chaos, so they might not
have school uniform on. So instead | 1:29:15 | 1:29:19 | |
of saying where is your uniform, we
will provide them with a uniform so | 1:29:19 | 1:29:23 | |
they feel a part of the rest of the
school. We also make sure that there | 1:29:23 | 1:29:27 | |
are people within school they can
talk to. When I talk to victims who | 1:29:27 | 1:29:32 | |
are children, they will often say I
don't feel there is anybody I can | 1:29:32 | 1:29:37 | |
talk to. I feel like this is
something still with my own. That | 1:29:37 | 1:29:41 | |
was expressed by your previous
guest. It's got to a hugely serious | 1:29:41 | 1:29:45 | |
extent before she told anybody in
school. What we want is our children | 1:29:45 | 1:29:49 | |
to know they can come and they can
talk to us. And we will support them | 1:29:49 | 1:29:56 | |
without judgment around that
domestic abuse. Thank you. I just | 1:29:56 | 1:29:58 | |
want to speak to Zoe, as well,
because it isn't just about | 1:29:58 | 1:30:01 | |
charities doing their bit the police
need to take action as well. What | 1:30:01 | 1:30:06 | |
forces doing to help children in
domestic violence environments? | 1:30:06 | 1:30:13 | |
The police are getting better at
responding to domestic abuse, which | 1:30:13 | 1:30:17 | |
is encouraging. We found a few years
ago that police were reluctant to | 1:30:17 | 1:30:21 | |
engage with children at the scene of
domestic incidents. But they have | 1:30:21 | 1:30:24 | |
had an awful lot of training over
the last few years about the | 1:30:24 | 1:30:27 | |
importance of speaking to children
at the scene, to make sure that the | 1:30:27 | 1:30:30 | |
children are OK, to not be fobbed
off by the perpetrator. Quite often | 1:30:30 | 1:30:36 | |
we had examples of victims saying
the perpetrator said the children | 1:30:36 | 1:30:38 | |
were in bed, they're absolutely
fine. Police must not take that word | 1:30:38 | 1:30:43 | |
for it, they must go and have a look
at the children, make sure there are | 1:30:43 | 1:30:46 | |
OK. And this wonderful scheme which
these is talking about, it is about | 1:30:46 | 1:30:51 | |
information sharing but it is more
than that. It is about making sure | 1:30:51 | 1:30:54 | |
that when that child attends school
the next day, there is a caring | 1:30:54 | 1:30:58 | |
person, someone to look out for them
there. We found that only half of | 1:30:58 | 1:31:01 | |
the forces in England and Wales have
adopted this skin, Operation | 1:31:01 | 1:31:05 | |
Encompass, or something like it. So,
we have called on all police forces | 1:31:05 | 1:31:10 | |
across the country to put in place
such a simple, easy to manage scheme | 1:31:10 | 1:31:16 | |
that stops children having the
responsibility of domestic abuse | 1:31:16 | 1:31:18 | |
pushed onto them. As we heard from
Lynn, children take responsibility | 1:31:18 | 1:31:24 | |
for their parents' actions, they
bottle up feelings inside. These | 1:31:24 | 1:31:28 | |
schemes which put the children
absolutely at the forefront are | 1:31:28 | 1:31:33 | |
completely essential. So, it's that
joined up approach, where police are | 1:31:33 | 1:31:37 | |
notifying the schools so that the
schools can take steps in terms of | 1:31:37 | 1:31:41 | |
the child's welfare, but they also
need to be trained, like you say, on | 1:31:41 | 1:31:47 | |
how to act and react in those
situations? Absolutely, and the | 1:31:47 | 1:31:51 | |
police officers that we talk too
obviously want to do the very best | 1:31:51 | 1:31:55 | |
for the victim and for the people in
the household, but sometimes there | 1:31:55 | 1:31:59 | |
is a reluctance to be as proactive
as they need to be, to actually see | 1:31:59 | 1:32:03 | |
that child. If they are said to be
upstairs in bed sleeping, actually | 1:32:03 | 1:32:07 | |
if it's too late, comeback next
morning and make sure that that | 1:32:07 | 1:32:10 | |
child is OK. Take the normal, common
sense steps which we would want | 1:32:10 | 1:32:15 | |
other people to take as parents in
order to protect our children, is | 1:32:15 | 1:32:19 | |
the advice that we are giving to the
police. And Lynn, what would you | 1:32:19 | 1:32:23 | |
like to see put in place to help
make a difference? I am a | 1:32:23 | 1:32:28 | |
facilitator of the Freedom
Programme. Now, if my parents were | 1:32:28 | 1:32:33 | |
given an awareness of the behaviour,
the beliefs behind the behaviour, | 1:32:33 | 1:32:38 | |
and how society reinforces that,
weather it's separately or if they | 1:32:38 | 1:32:45 | |
want to stay together, then
together, then I believe that we | 1:32:45 | 1:32:48 | |
would have a chance at rooting out
the problem. So that children can be | 1:32:48 | 1:32:54 | |
safe. If I knew there was such a
programme going around at that time, | 1:32:54 | 1:32:59 | |
if it was available at that time
back in the night in 80s, I as a | 1:32:59 | 1:33:03 | |
child was intelligent enough that I
would have said, please go to this, | 1:33:03 | 1:33:08 | |
please change. I saw the potential
in my father and I would encourage | 1:33:08 | 1:33:12 | |
for anyone who wants to change, they
have the choice to do so. And for | 1:33:12 | 1:33:18 | |
any woman who sees that things won't
change, that she can make healthy | 1:33:18 | 1:33:23 | |
choices, with safety and planning,
with the right professionals around | 1:33:23 | 1:33:26 | |
her who have been domestic abuse
trained, who can help her get into a | 1:33:26 | 1:33:31 | |
safe space and a safe place for her
and her children. Lynn, thank you so | 1:33:31 | 1:33:35 | |
much for coming onto the programme
this morning and sharing your story | 1:33:35 | 1:33:38 | |
with us. | 1:33:38 | 1:33:48 | |
Still to come? | 1:33:56 | 1:34:06 | |
Time for the latest news. | 1:34:12 | 1:34:17 | |
There's been a major breakthrough
in the Brexit talks. | 1:34:17 | 1:34:19 | |
The European Commission now says
"sufficient progress" has been | 1:34:19 | 1:34:21 | |
made in the first stage
of the negotiations - | 1:34:21 | 1:34:23 | |
about citizen's rights,
the Irish border and the size | 1:34:23 | 1:34:25 | |
of the so-called divorce bill -
that discussions can now start | 1:34:25 | 1:34:28 | |
on Britain's future relationship
with the EU. | 1:34:28 | 1:34:33 | |
However, the EU's chief Brexit talks
negotiator Michel Barnier has warned | 1:34:33 | 1:34:36 | |
there's still much to do. | 1:34:36 | 1:34:40 | |
Let me be clear - there is still
work to be done. And negotiation on | 1:34:40 | 1:34:51 | |
a number of issues, such as the
governance of our agreement, or for | 1:34:51 | 1:34:55 | |
instance... There are more others to
take... We will need to have the | 1:34:55 | 1:35:05 | |
final version of the withdrawal
agreement ready by October 2018 - | 1:35:05 | 1:35:11 | |
less than one year. | 1:35:11 | 1:35:14 | |
A "day of rage" is being planned
by Palestinians angered by America's | 1:35:14 | 1:35:17 | |
recognition of Jerusalem
as the capital of Israel. | 1:35:17 | 1:35:18 | |
Around 30 demonstrators were injured
in clashes with Israeli forces | 1:35:18 | 1:35:21 | |
in the West Bank yesterday. | 1:35:21 | 1:35:22 | |
The US has warned Palestinians
against cancelling talks | 1:35:22 | 1:35:24 | |
with vice-president Mike Pence,
who will visit the Middle East | 1:35:24 | 1:35:26 | |
in less than two weeks' time. | 1:35:26 | 1:35:32 | |
A student who died weeks
after starting at university | 1:35:32 | 1:35:36 | |
was failed by "every NHS
organisation that should have cared | 1:35:36 | 1:35:38 | |
for her", a review has found. | 1:35:38 | 1:35:43 | |
Averil Hart, who was 19,
died of a heart attack caused | 1:35:43 | 1:35:46 | |
by anorexia in 2012. | 1:35:46 | 1:35:48 | |
The Parliamentary and
Health Service Ombudsman | 1:35:48 | 1:35:51 | |
says her death could and should
have been prevented. | 1:35:51 | 1:35:53 | |
NHS England has apologised,
and says it's making "real progress" | 1:35:53 | 1:35:56 | |
with eating disorder services. | 1:35:56 | 1:35:59 | |
Snow, ice and windy conditions
are set to sweep across large | 1:35:59 | 1:36:02 | |
parts of the UK today. | 1:36:02 | 1:36:03 | |
Severe gales have already
caused disruption to air, | 1:36:03 | 1:36:05 | |
rail and ferry services. | 1:36:05 | 1:36:08 | |
Yellow "be aware" weather
warnings have been issued | 1:36:08 | 1:36:10 | |
across much of Scotland,
Northern Ireland, Wales | 1:36:10 | 1:36:13 | |
and north-west England -
with up to eight inches of snow | 1:36:13 | 1:36:16 | |
expected in some areas. | 1:36:16 | 1:36:19 | |
A number of new wildfires have
started in southern California, | 1:36:19 | 1:36:24 | |
stretching firefighters
to the limit. | 1:36:24 | 1:36:27 | |
Nearly 200,000 people have now been
evacuated from their homes. | 1:36:27 | 1:36:30 | |
Planes have been diverted to one
of the latest blazes | 1:36:30 | 1:36:32 | |
in the county of San Diego,
and officials say more than 400 | 1:36:32 | 1:36:35 | |
buildings have been destroyed. | 1:36:35 | 1:36:37 | |
A state of emergency
has been declared. | 1:36:37 | 1:36:39 | |
That's a summary of
the latest BBC News. | 1:36:39 | 1:36:47 | |
Here's the sport now, with Hugh. | 1:36:47 | 1:36:52 | |
Real Madrid forward Cristiano
Ronaldo has been crowned the world's | 1:36:52 | 1:36:56 | |
best footballer once again, after
winning the prestigious Balon d'Or | 1:36:56 | 1:36:59 | |
award for the fifth time. He now
matches Lionel Messi's record and it | 1:36:59 | 1:37:05 | |
means the two of them have shared
the last ten titles. The Premier | 1:37:05 | 1:37:08 | |
League are expect him to announce
changes to how they sell the TV | 1:37:08 | 1:37:11 | |
rights today. Total number of live
broadcast games will increase, with | 1:37:11 | 1:37:16 | |
some matches going head-to-head with
the likes of The X Factor and | 1:37:16 | 1:37:20 | |
Strictly Come Dancing on a Saturday
night. Arsene Wenger hailed the | 1:37:20 | 1:37:23 | |
influence of Jack Wilshere as they
beat BATE Borisov 6-0 in a half full | 1:37:23 | 1:37:28 | |
at in the Europa League. And
five-time winner Ronnie O'Sullivan | 1:37:28 | 1:37:31 | |
said he felt sorry for the
20-year-old Sunny Akani from | 1:37:31 | 1:37:34 | |
Thailand, after he came from behind
three times to reach the | 1:37:34 | 1:37:37 | |
quarterfinals of the UK Snooker
Championship. I will be back with | 1:37:37 | 1:37:43 | |
more sport after 11 o'clock. | 1:37:43 | 1:37:46 | |
It can be hard for parents
and teenagers to talk to each other | 1:37:46 | 1:37:54 | |
about sensitive subjects like sex
and according to a new study, many | 1:37:54 | 1:37:56 | |
families are not very good at it. | 1:37:56 | 1:37:59 | |
The National Citizen Service
followed 1,000 teenagers and 2,000 | 1:37:59 | 1:38:01 | |
parents for a year and they found
a "communication mismatch". | 1:38:01 | 1:38:03 | |
The study suggests parents
are almost three times more | 1:38:03 | 1:38:05 | |
likely to think they've
discussed their teen's sex life | 1:38:05 | 1:38:07 | |
with them, than their child. | 1:38:07 | 1:38:09 | |
When it comes to bullying,
twice as many parents as teens | 1:38:09 | 1:38:12 | |
believe they have discussed it. | 1:38:12 | 1:38:19 | |
Let's find out why there seems to be
such a mismatch with a child | 1:38:19 | 1:38:26 | |
psychologist Dr Anna Colton and
teenage Sophie Meehan. Is there a | 1:38:26 | 1:38:34 | |
big mismatch with the conversations
you have with your parents? I don't | 1:38:34 | 1:38:37 | |
think so. The relationship I have
with my parents is always very open. | 1:38:37 | 1:38:41 | |
We talk about anything and there is
this attitude that nothing is taboo. | 1:38:41 | 1:38:45 | |
So, in my experience, it is not a
taboo and there is no mismatch. And | 1:38:45 | 1:38:51 | |
what do you think about the results
of this survey, that have found for | 1:38:51 | 1:38:55 | |
a lot of people there is, where for
example the parents think they've | 1:38:55 | 1:38:59 | |
had conversations about something
like sex or bullying and the | 1:38:59 | 1:39:03 | |
teenager completed disagrees? I
think the parents might try to have | 1:39:03 | 1:39:07 | |
these conversations, because they're
always looking out for their kids, | 1:39:07 | 1:39:12 | |
always trying to have this
conversation, whereas kids might try | 1:39:12 | 1:39:15 | |
to turn it off, thinking, oh, god,
this is awkward. But I've had | 1:39:15 | 1:39:20 | |
friends who have come to me and
said, we had this awkward chat. That | 1:39:20 | 1:39:24 | |
might be where there is that gap.
Lots of nodding from you and | 1:39:24 | 1:39:28 | |
agreeing over there, had! How open
are your conversations hammered it | 1:39:28 | 1:39:33 | |
will be interesting to find out from
you first of all before we come to | 1:39:33 | 1:39:44 | |
Ife? You think you have discussed
everything but sometimes you think, | 1:39:44 | 1:39:48 | |
have we really discussed everything
which we should discuss or have you | 1:39:48 | 1:39:51 | |
just covered it as nicely as
possible? I try to think I am | 1:39:51 | 1:39:55 | |
possibly very liberal with him, you
know, compared to his mum - that's | 1:39:55 | 1:39:59 | |
my opinion, I think I am very
liberal. Good cop, Badcock! And how | 1:39:59 | 1:40:08 | |
do you broach difficult subjects
with Ife, what is your technique as | 1:40:08 | 1:40:12 | |
a parent? I try to just be patient
until I see that I can influence... | 1:40:12 | 1:40:20 | |
Like the first time when he went to
the NCS programme at the end of the | 1:40:20 | 1:40:26 | |
year, two or three years ago quango
he was 16 or so, and he introduced a | 1:40:26 | 1:40:30 | |
girl to meet at the end of the
programme and said, this is my | 1:40:30 | 1:40:34 | |
friend. Maybe I was thinking a bit,
but is the girlfriend, I wasn't | 1:40:34 | 1:40:37 | |
sure. But I told your mum, she
probably just said, put it off. I'm | 1:40:37 | 1:40:44 | |
thinking, OK, he's old enough to
tell me that, I am looking forward | 1:40:44 | 1:40:48 | |
to how the relationship proceeds.
Sometimes we found at night, | 1:40:48 | 1:40:52 | |
chatting long into the night, the
man says, he is chatting, let him | 1:40:52 | 1:40:56 | |
get on with it. But I don't know
weather I would talk about it. I | 1:40:56 | 1:41:00 | |
would take a step back. So the key
is not being too intrusive - is your | 1:41:00 | 1:41:05 | |
dad'sdescription accurate, would you
say? I feel like when I come to him | 1:41:05 | 1:41:12 | |
for a conversation, something on my
mind, he will try to talk to me | 1:41:12 | 1:41:15 | |
about it. But I feel like most of my
time is spent on my education and | 1:41:15 | 1:41:20 | |
what I want to do in the future,
work and things like that and how he | 1:41:20 | 1:41:26 | |
can influence me with that. But when
I have something about | 1:41:26 | 1:41:30 | |
relationships, about sex or
something, I will not go to them | 1:41:30 | 1:41:33 | |
about it. So he doesn't intrude on
me, like he said. I would probably | 1:41:33 | 1:41:38 | |
go to my friends because I can
relate to them. And we're all doing | 1:41:38 | 1:41:41 | |
the same thing, growing up in the
same way. So obviously I will talk | 1:41:41 | 1:41:45 | |
to them more about it. With my
parents could going to be more | 1:41:45 | 1:41:49 | |
awkward, because we're not on the
same level. It would be a bit | 1:41:49 | 1:41:53 | |
strange. And have you try?! From
time to time! Your dad sounds like a | 1:41:53 | 1:42:01 | |
great guy, very liberal, he says,
happy to talk to you about | 1:42:01 | 1:42:03 | |
everything...? Yeah, but sometimes I
am like, that's a bit awkward, not | 1:42:03 | 1:42:09 | |
now. Can you give me examples which
we are allowed to say on morning TV? | 1:42:09 | 1:42:17 | |
Sometimes, you have to make sure you
don't hurt your back... I am like, | 1:42:17 | 1:42:22 | |
that's a bit much! OK! But
obviously, I think there is a time | 1:42:22 | 1:42:27 | |
and a place and they are open and
they have an understanding. But it | 1:42:27 | 1:42:33 | |
has been nice to have that line of
communication open should you want | 1:42:33 | 1:42:36 | |
it. Sophie, do you think you five
representative of your generation | 1:42:36 | 1:42:40 | |
and your friends in terms of your
relationships with your parents? | 1:42:40 | 1:42:44 | |
Yeah, I think so, I think the
majority of people our age would | 1:42:44 | 1:42:48 | |
like to have that open relationship
with their parents settled not the | 1:42:48 | 1:42:51 | |
sincerity talk about everything with
them. At the yeah, definitely having | 1:42:51 | 1:42:55 | |
that openness is something which I
think is quite common. Let's come to | 1:42:55 | 1:42:59 | |
the doctor, what do you make of this
year-long project looking into | 1:42:59 | 1:43:03 | |
relationships and openness between
parents and teenagers and the | 1:43:03 | 1:43:06 | |
mismatch? It is interesting, because
for me, professionally in my | 1:43:06 | 1:43:10 | |
practice, I see the other end, I see
when it has gone wrong and teenagers | 1:43:10 | 1:43:15 | |
are unhappy and they feel they can't
talk to their parents. I am not | 1:43:15 | 1:43:18 | |
surprised. It is a shame that I'm
not surprised. Off on the mismatch | 1:43:18 | 1:43:23 | |
comes because parents feel they are
communicating when they are | 1:43:23 | 1:43:26 | |
imparting information. But imparting
information is not a conversation | 1:43:26 | 1:43:30 | |
necessarily. Actually the best way
to do it is a slow drip drip over | 1:43:30 | 1:43:35 | |
the years. If nothing is taboo, then
there is no drama around a | 1:43:35 | 1:43:38 | |
conversation, it is not a big deal.
It can happen for five minutes over | 1:43:38 | 1:43:43 | |
the dinner table and then over a cup
of tea the next day. That is the | 1:43:43 | 1:43:46 | |
best way. Sometimes they think, I
know they will just have a go at me, | 1:43:46 | 1:43:52 | |
so a can't tell them. That means
there will be no effective | 1:43:52 | 1:43:56 | |
communication, because the young
person will shutdown. The parents | 1:43:56 | 1:43:58 | |
may or may not have a go, but if
that is the perception the young | 1:43:58 | 1:44:02 | |
person has, it is a real hurdle. So
I am not surprised by the findings | 1:44:02 | 1:44:08 | |
of the report. There is loads of
scope for improving it. What about | 1:44:08 | 1:44:11 | |
scope for improving the relationship
here with Ife, would Ife be more | 1:44:11 | 1:44:18 | |
willing to open up about issues with
his dad? It is interesting. One of | 1:44:18 | 1:44:22 | |
the key things about adolescence is
separating from parents headed it is | 1:44:22 | 1:44:25 | |
totally appropriate to speak to your
friends rather than or in addition | 1:44:25 | 1:44:29 | |
to, your parents. It is unusual and
not so development of appropriate | 1:44:29 | 1:44:35 | |
only to talk to your parents. So I
think actually Ife is great, there | 1:44:35 | 1:44:39 | |
are some things you can discuss with
your parents and you know that | 1:44:39 | 1:44:43 | |
should you need them, your parents
are there. That's really good, is | 1:44:43 | 1:44:46 | |
lovely to see a. How big a role to
you think the internet plays in the | 1:44:46 | 1:44:51 | |
suppose it break down in
communications, Sophie? I am not too | 1:44:51 | 1:44:54 | |
sure. For me I don't think it would
have caused a breakdown in | 1:44:54 | 1:44:58 | |
communications. But say, a few years
ago when I had my phone at the | 1:44:58 | 1:45:04 | |
dinner table and my dad would be
like, no, that's not happening. So | 1:45:04 | 1:45:07 | |
there was a little bit of conflict
over the involvement of the internet | 1:45:07 | 1:45:11 | |
and technology into our life. But
now, we've got that out of the way, | 1:45:11 | 1:45:16 | |
so communication is back. Ife, what
do you think? I know teenagers who | 1:45:16 | 1:45:22 | |
would be too scared to have a phone
conversation, just always sending | 1:45:22 | 1:45:25 | |
messages! It depends how you use it.
There will be times when I will keep | 1:45:25 | 1:45:31 | |
to myself and my phone. If you
include your family, like now we | 1:45:31 | 1:45:35 | |
have a family group chat, which is
inclusive. So we can discuss topics, | 1:45:35 | 1:45:40 | |
if somebody from the family has done
something, we can congratulate them. | 1:45:40 | 1:45:45 | |
It can be a benefit to the child and
the parent. Do you agree? Children | 1:45:45 | 1:45:55 | |
will always get more information
from social media and the Internet | 1:45:55 | 1:45:59 | |
than what they can get from their
parents. You always provide for the | 1:45:59 | 1:46:04 | |
children in and around the house. I
always say be careful how you lived | 1:46:04 | 1:46:11 | |
that, you hurting your back, you
want to make him think about the | 1:46:11 | 1:46:15 | |
responsibility as to the future, so
this kind of thing. But his mum is | 1:46:15 | 1:46:29 | |
always saying to me, make sure you
take away his fame before he goes to | 1:46:29 | 1:46:33 | |
bed, I think social media and
Internet is so interesting it is | 1:46:33 | 1:46:37 | |
competing with our knowledge. You
just have to keep fighting in that | 1:46:37 | 1:46:42 | |
way that makes you set a platform
for them to see that the information | 1:46:42 | 1:46:48 | |
you are providing is vital for them
to build that kind of relationship. | 1:46:48 | 1:46:54 | |
What do you think? What's up family
groups, how many of us have those? | 1:46:54 | 1:46:59 | |
It's a good thing in terms of
opening up conversations and being | 1:46:59 | 1:47:03 | |
more inclusive. But does it also
play a part in the breakdown? I | 1:47:03 | 1:47:09 | |
think it is mixed. Things like what
sap family groups, they are | 1:47:09 | 1:47:12 | |
brilliant, you can keep in touch,
update, it can reduce stress if you | 1:47:12 | 1:47:17 | |
are running late because you can
just reply, it easy. -- WhatsApp | 1:47:17 | 1:47:28 | |
family groups. But then you get the
point when the child says I cannot | 1:47:28 | 1:47:32 | |
introduce myself to a person,
because they are not used to it. But | 1:47:32 | 1:47:37 | |
what's good with these programmes as
young people will interact with | 1:47:37 | 1:47:39 | |
people they've never met before.
It's good for confidence building, | 1:47:39 | 1:47:43 | |
learning extra social skills, and
just creating the environment to be | 1:47:43 | 1:47:48 | |
relaxed and learn those things
rather than having parental | 1:47:48 | 1:47:50 | |
pressure. But the flip side is the
parents are quite anxious about | 1:47:50 | 1:47:54 | |
social media and anxious about how
much time their kids spend on it. | 1:47:54 | 1:47:58 | |
That in itself can create conflict.
As parents we were not brought up | 1:47:58 | 1:48:03 | |
with it so we are trying to keep up
and learning at the same speed or | 1:48:03 | 1:48:07 | |
possibly slower than our kids, so
that is also a challenge. How much | 1:48:07 | 1:48:11 | |
do you regulate his social media
time? I do that. It is a lost | 1:48:11 | 1:48:18 | |
battle. I didn't try. Maybe the mum
does it more. I must confess. I try | 1:48:18 | 1:48:27 | |
to make sure I am talking more. The
mum says to me, why do you have | 1:48:27 | 1:48:31 | |
these long conversations about every
little thing, but that's the only | 1:48:31 | 1:48:33 | |
time I can get my way into the
competition. If I said to him put | 1:48:33 | 1:48:39 | |
your phone down it will probably be
put somewhere he can get access to | 1:48:39 | 1:48:44 | |
it, so I don't think I will win that
battle. | 1:48:44 | 1:48:47 | |
CHUCKLES
Thank you all very much indeed. | 1:48:47 | 1:48:53 | |
This Sunday is the biggest day
of the football season so far | 1:48:53 | 1:48:55 | |
as Manchester United and rivals
Manchester City clash | 1:48:55 | 1:48:57 | |
at Old Trafford. | 1:48:57 | 1:48:58 | |
City are top and going for a record
14th consecutive league win. | 1:48:58 | 1:49:01 | |
For Mancunians this
is the most-eagerly awaited fixture | 1:49:01 | 1:49:03 | |
in the football calendar. | 1:49:03 | 1:49:04 | |
We can speak to some now -
who will hoping for very | 1:49:04 | 1:49:07 | |
different results. | 1:49:07 | 1:49:12 | |
Natasha Turkington
is a lifelong United Fan, | 1:49:12 | 1:49:13 | |
and Lee Warner a lifelong
City supporter. | 1:49:13 | 1:49:22 | |
Natasha will be with us shortly. | 1:49:22 | 1:49:25 | |
And then we've got father and son,
Bob and Ryan and Tute. | 1:49:25 | 1:49:28 | |
Bob raised Ryan a City fan,
but he turned his back on the team | 1:49:28 | 1:49:31 | |
in favour of United when he grew up. | 1:49:31 | 1:49:35 | |
Welcome to the programme. Let's
speak to the father and son. How are | 1:49:35 | 1:49:41 | |
you feeling about Sunday's game? I'm
over the moon. It will be a win for | 1:49:41 | 1:49:47 | |
City. No, it'll be a 2-1 win for
United. Someone will come off the | 1:49:47 | 1:49:57 | |
bench and score a winner. It should
be a very good game. As long as Jose | 1:49:57 | 1:50:04 | |
Mourinho doesn't park the bus. It
would be 6-1, it will probably be | 1:50:04 | 1:50:10 | |
6-3. -- it will not be 6-1. What is
it like being opposing fans in the | 1:50:10 | 1:50:15 | |
same household? It's all right. For
the last ten years before Manchester | 1:50:15 | 1:50:23 | |
City decided to get some money it
was normally one-way traffic. We | 1:50:23 | 1:50:26 | |
used to win everything. The last
five years it has got a bit more | 1:50:26 | 1:50:32 | |
complicated, but we tend not to
watch games together just to avoid | 1:50:32 | 1:50:37 | |
any, sort of, conflict, shall we
say. You are a Mancunian commonly, | 1:50:37 | 1:50:43 | |
but you live in London, what are you
hoping for from Sunday? I'm hoping | 1:50:43 | 1:50:49 | |
for the same as we've been doing the
past ten, 15 games, the performances | 1:50:49 | 1:50:53 | |
have been amazing. The past few
weeks we have shown the grit and | 1:50:53 | 1:50:59 | |
determination you need in the dying
minutes of games. Probably similar | 1:50:59 | 1:51:03 | |
to the teams of Sir Alex Ferguson in
the 90s when they would score late | 1:51:03 | 1:51:06 | |
winners and always feel confident
they would get the win regardless of | 1:51:06 | 1:51:10 | |
potentially looking like they were
not. Really confident. Hopefully | 1:51:10 | 1:51:13 | |
Silva can be in the team and not get
injured. That would be amazing. It | 1:51:13 | 1:51:20 | |
will be a tight game. Maybe one goal
in it. Hopefully 2-1. Natasha, you | 1:51:20 | 1:51:27 | |
have just joined us, good morning,
how much are you looking forward to | 1:51:27 | 1:51:30 | |
Sunday, and are you going to the
game? I am going to the game. I'm | 1:51:30 | 1:51:36 | |
excited. But I'm very nervous, as
well, like all derby days. It is a | 1:51:36 | 1:51:42 | |
love it and hate it kind of day. Do
you think Sunday could shape the | 1:51:42 | 1:51:47 | |
title race? Definitely. There is so
much riding on this game. It's the | 1:51:47 | 1:51:54 | |
league, it's bragging rights, it's
private, it absolutely everything. | 1:51:54 | 1:52:00 | |
Yes. I'm just hoping we will get the
win. I don't care how it happens. If | 1:52:00 | 1:52:06 | |
it is a scrappy, park the boss of
football match, but we get the | 1:52:06 | 1:52:10 | |
point, I am OK with that. We can
keep fancy football for later in the | 1:52:10 | 1:52:16 | |
season. It's called the most
expensive and possibly most watched | 1:52:16 | 1:52:20 | |
game in Premier League history. The
fact you are going must be special. | 1:52:20 | 1:52:23 | |
I know you have a season ticket and
you have been going for the last 20 | 1:52:23 | 1:52:28 | |
years, but still... Yes. It is
always a special one. I was reading | 1:52:28 | 1:52:35 | |
this morning that it is the most
expensive. I hadn't even considered | 1:52:35 | 1:52:39 | |
that because it doesn't really
matter. Both sides, we just want our | 1:52:39 | 1:52:44 | |
team to win. We all want to win the
league. But, yes, it's a special one | 1:52:44 | 1:52:48 | |
and I cannot wait to get down there.
But I also cannot wait for it to be | 1:52:48 | 1:52:53 | |
over. Have fun on Sunday. Wrap up
warm. Snow is expected this weekend. | 1:52:53 | 1:52:58 | |
Thank you for speaking to us this
morning, all of you. Let's get more | 1:52:58 | 1:53:05 | |
reaction to the Brexit talks
overnight in Brussels which are | 1:53:05 | 1:53:08 | |
being described as a breakthrough.
The European Commission says enough | 1:53:08 | 1:53:11 | |
progress has made about citizens
rights. The Irish border, and the | 1:53:11 | 1:53:16 | |
size of the so-called divorce bill
to move on to the second stage of | 1:53:16 | 1:53:20 | |
talks, including trade negotiations.
Let's get more reaction to this | 1:53:20 | 1:53:24 | |
morning's Brexit development, Nigel | 1:53:24 | 1:53:34 | |
Farage joined us. What is your
response? Extraordinary situation. | 1:53:36 | 1:53:40 | |
The British Prime Minister has to
fly through the middle of the night | 1:53:40 | 1:53:44 | |
to meet three unelected people who
condescendingly say, jolly well | 1:53:44 | 1:53:49 | |
done, Theresa May commit you have
met every single one of our demands, | 1:53:49 | 1:53:52 | |
thanks very much, we can move onto
the next stage. It is humiliating. | 1:53:52 | 1:53:56 | |
We have collapsed at every level. To
allow the European Court of Justice | 1:53:56 | 1:54:02 | |
to have jurisdiction over this
country for nearly a decade to come | 1:54:02 | 1:54:06 | |
is not what people voted for. But
citizens rights. There has to be a | 1:54:06 | 1:54:11 | |
two-way agreement. British citizens
living in the EU need to be | 1:54:11 | 1:54:17 | |
protected. You need a reciprocal
agreement in that case. The ECJ | 1:54:17 | 1:54:21 | |
won't have a say on everything. They
will have a say in some cases and a | 1:54:21 | 1:54:26 | |
say over the rights of EU citizens
living in the UK. Is that not fair? | 1:54:26 | 1:54:32 | |
Why should a multimillionaire French
banker living in London have more | 1:54:32 | 1:54:35 | |
rights than anybody here who is
British or indeed comes from the | 1:54:35 | 1:54:38 | |
rest of the world? You cannot have
that. Either you live by one set of | 1:54:38 | 1:54:43 | |
rules or you don't. That's not
acceptable. The exit bill is way | 1:54:43 | 1:54:47 | |
more than we need to pay. In terms
of us keeping alignment with the | 1:54:47 | 1:54:53 | |
rest of the European Union, well, we
voted Brexit so we could be | 1:54:53 | 1:54:59 | |
competitive and make our own laws.
Now we go into a situation where she | 1:54:59 | 1:55:03 | |
wants a transition phase where we
will say a member of the European | 1:55:03 | 1:55:08 | |
Union in all but name for a further
two years... We don't know that yet, | 1:55:08 | 1:55:12 | |
we don't know what the final deal
will look like. To be clear, where | 1:55:12 | 1:55:16 | |
we are now, we've got to the stage
where to move on to phase two there | 1:55:16 | 1:55:20 | |
will be no hard border separating
Britain and Ireland. Citizens rights | 1:55:20 | 1:55:26 | |
will be protected. And the divorce
Bill will be fair for us, do you | 1:55:26 | 1:55:32 | |
disagree with all of those things?
Completely. We are paying a | 1:55:32 | 1:55:36 | |
gargantuan sum of money which we are
not legally entitled to pay. We are | 1:55:36 | 1:55:40 | |
doing it because the Prime Minister
is desperate to find some kind of | 1:55:40 | 1:55:44 | |
deal. Ultimately no deal is better
than a bad deal. On course at the | 1:55:44 | 1:55:49 | |
minute, this is a very bad deal
indeed. Businesses have told us they | 1:55:49 | 1:55:53 | |
want a transition deal. As a former
businessman yourself, isn't that a | 1:55:53 | 1:55:57 | |
good thing? If we have this
transition deal it'll be at least | 1:55:57 | 1:56:02 | |
six years, minimum, from the date we
voted Brexit before we are able to | 1:56:02 | 1:56:06 | |
sign a trade deal with any other
part of the world. I am afraid we | 1:56:06 | 1:56:10 | |
are looking really rather less
serious to the world outside the EU | 1:56:10 | 1:56:14 | |
than we were on Brexit day. Michel
Barnier, on the Brexit deal, you are | 1:56:14 | 1:56:20 | |
saying it is a staggering amount,
but Michel Barnier has said this | 1:56:20 | 1:56:24 | |
morning that it is impossible to
calculate how much that will be. It | 1:56:24 | 1:56:28 | |
is dependent on future developments.
Of course! Theresa May offer 20 | 1:56:28 | 1:56:32 | |
million. They said, that's nice,
double it. She has doubled to 40 | 1:56:32 | 1:56:38 | |
million. I have no doubt it will go
up again to 60 million. We are | 1:56:38 | 1:56:44 | |
dealing with completely unreasonable
people. The European Union is not | 1:56:44 | 1:56:48 | |
adjusting any of its future spending
plans despite the fact one of the | 1:56:48 | 1:56:51 | |
main contributors has voted to leave
and we are picking up the tab. | 1:56:51 | 1:56:55 | |
Frankly, we look ridiculous. You are
saying no compromises should have | 1:56:55 | 1:57:00 | |
been made? We had this morning that
we wouldn't be in this position or | 1:57:00 | 1:57:04 | |
moving onto phase two next week if
compromises were not made on every | 1:57:04 | 1:57:09 | |
side. They set the terms of these
negotiations from the start. | 1:57:09 | 1:57:14 | |
Frankly, there have been no
negotiations. We've wasted months | 1:57:14 | 1:57:18 | |
and in the end we have agreed on
everything they insisted on in the | 1:57:18 | 1:57:22 | |
first place. We should never ever
have been making a series of | 1:57:22 | 1:57:26 | |
concessions just in some vague hope
we might get a trade deal at the end | 1:57:26 | 1:57:30 | |
of it. Monday's delay was because of
the DUP. Thank goodness. At least | 1:57:30 | 1:57:37 | |
there are some people in British
politics with principle. There was a | 1:57:37 | 1:57:41 | |
lot of that in the Conservative
Party. Everything has been agreed | 1:57:41 | 1:57:44 | |
today. Everything is against what we
said on June 23 2016. But that isn't | 1:57:44 | 1:57:55 | |
true. We don't know what the final
version of Brexit will look like. | 1:57:55 | 1:57:58 | |
This is to do with citizens rights,
and the divorce Bill. We voted to | 1:57:58 | 1:58:02 | |
make our own laws in our country.
And to control our own borders. I | 1:58:02 | 1:58:08 | |
don't think anybody who voted for
Brexit didn't understand those | 1:58:08 | 1:58:14 | |
things very clearly indeed. We are
agreeing that a foreign court can | 1:58:14 | 1:58:18 | |
have jurisdiction over people living
in this country for at least a | 1:58:18 | 1:58:21 | |
further eight years. We have to
leave it there. Thank you very much | 1:58:21 | 1:58:24 | |
indeed. | 1:58:24 | 1:58:24 | |
BBC Newsroom live is coming up next. | 1:58:24 | 1:58:26 | |
Thank you for your company today. | 1:58:26 | 1:58:27 | |
Have a good day. | 1:58:27 | 1:58:29 |