16/01/2018 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello.

It's Tuesday, it's 9 o'clock,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

welcome to the programme

Our top story today -

Police in California have rescued 13

brothers and sisters from a house,

where some of them were

chained to their beds.

Here Alison hits, from 29 22-macro,

just captive.

Malnourished and filthy, it is

heartbreaking. -- here are some

kids, from the age of 29 to two.

Their parents have been arrested

and charged with torture

and child endangerment.

We'll bring you the full

story this morning.

How common are fake degrees? More

than 3000 bogus qualifications were

bought in Britain alone from one

company in Pakistan.

Plus this horrific experience does

not define me, I am much more than

this.

The words of Olympic champion

gymnast Simone Biles, who has

revealed she was sexually abused by

the former USA team Doctor Larry

Nassar. We will get reaction from

the gymnasts. -- from some other

gymnasts.

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Our top story today...

Police in California

have rescued 13 brothers

and sisters from a house,

where some of them

were chained to beds.

The alarm was raised on Sunday,

when one girl escaped

and alerted the authorities.

Their parents have been arrested

and charged with torture

and child endangerment.

Our North America correspondent

James Cook has this report.

They look like a big, happy family.

The children a little pale,

perhaps, but smiling.

Photographs on Facebook show

the Turpins visiting

Disneyland and in Las Vegas,

as their apparently proud parents

renewed wedding vows.

Now David and Louise Turpin

are under arrest, charged

with torture and child endangerment.

Their children are in hospital.

Our staff is used to taking care

of people who are quite ill,

they are used to compassionate care,

and so we pull out all the stops,

so to speak, to make sure

that their privacy is dealt with,

that they get the appropriate care

and that they are treated

with dignity and respect at a time

when they need it the most.

The horror on Muir Woods Road

was uncovered early on Sunday

morning when a 17-year-old girl

escaped with a mobile phone

and called the police.

At the home, officers found 12

siblings and were shocked

to discover that seven were adults -

the oldest, 29.

The captives were dirty

and malnourished, say police,

shackled to their beds with chains

and padlocks in dark

and foul-smelling surroundings.

As reporters arrived at the quiet

suburb east of Los Angeles,

neighbours said they were stunned.

They were the type that

you didn't really get to know

anything about them.

They were very to themselves,

in a sense, clan-ish,

so they only kept to themselves.

And the only time you would see

them, you would never see anyone

visit, you would never see anyone

come outside, all you would really

see is that they would go out

and maybe make a grocery run

and that was about it.

There is no hint at all here of

the grim conditions inside his home.

The questions about what

happened are mounting.

Not least, how long were

the siblings held captive and why.

James Cook, BBC News,

Perris, California.

John Fenoglio is

a news correspondent

with KTLA-5 in Los Angeles.

He told me how the alarm was raised.

Well, this is truly an horrific

child abuse investigation. What we

know from police is that early

Sunday morning a young girl called

for help. She said she was being

held captive, along with her 12

brothers and sisters, and that some

of them had been shackled to their

beds with padlocks.

Responding officers found what they

described as a young, emaciated

girl, they believed to be about ten

years of age, but in fact she was 17

years old.

She led police back to their home,

and what officers described was a

hellish scenario.

Children chained to their beds,

police could not give an adequate

description as to why they were

chained to their beds. They were

arrested.

The parents both arrested. The

officers say what they discovered

with several people chained to their

beds in dark and foul smelling

conditions.

You say this girl appeared to be ten

but was in fact 17, she had called

for help. Had she escaped from a

house?

According to a police

statement she said she was able to

escape from the house and take a

cell phone with her. That is how she

called police and led officers to

her home, that is when officers

discovered the chilling environment.

John Fenoglio. More on that story

through the morning.

Reeta is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary

of the rest of the day's news.

Ministers are trying to limit the

damage caused by the collapse of the

construction services company

Carillion which went into collapse

yesterday with debts of around £1.5

billion.

The firm was involved in a large

number of public building projects,

including HS2, and holds cleaning

and catering contracts for schools,

hospitals and prisons.

Chris Mason reports.

One after another, they came

from all corners of government.

Are taxpayers going to suffer

as a result of this?

The march of ministers

into the Cabinet Office for a Cobra

contingency meeting spoke

to the central truth

of the collapse of Carillion,

the tentacles of this failed

business reaching to every part

of the public sector,

in every part of the UK.

And they now have to work out

what on earth to do next.

There is no evidence of chaos.

The government is working hard

across all Whitehall departments

to ensure the liquidation

of Carillion takes place

in an orderly manner that does not

disrupt public services.

When did the government

first realise...

Labour accused ministers

of shocking negligence.

A government representative managing

the relationship between Carillion

and the public sector was rotated

off the company last summer.

There was no blindspot,

insist the Conservatives.

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn,

in a video to supporters on social

media, said this was a watershed

moment for the outsource-first dogma

that has fleeced the public.

The government insisted

what happened with Carillion showed

a private business shouldering real

risk, and that there

had been no bailout.

It is an insight into the vastly

contrasting instincts of the two

biggest parties about how

so many of our public

services are delivered.

The four-time Olympic champion

gymnast Simone Biles has said

she was sexually abused by the USA

team doctor, Larry Nassar.

In a tweet, Simone Biles described

herself as one of many survivors -

but said she had been reluctant

to speak out until now.

Larry Nassar was jailed last month

for 60 years for possessing images

of child sexual abuse -

and is awaiting sentence

for assaulting other athletes.

An Australian teenager has been

found alive in the wreckage of his

car after his father made an

intuitive decision to search them in

a helicopter. 17-year-old Samuel

Lethbridge was trapped for many

others. After alerting the police,

his father had a helicopter when he

recalled a similar local car

accident from about five years ago.

A BBC investigation has found around

3000 bogus qualifications were

bought in Britain from the company

in Pakistan.

The radio programme File On 4 has

said

said that the qualifications

included doctors and nurses and a

company which trains for helicopter

pilots also bought qualifications

for some employees.

MPs say the manufacturer Whirlpool

hasn't done enough to deal

with defective tumble dryers

which have caused hundreds of fires.

The Commons Business Committee said

the response to the problem,

discovered in 2015, had been woeful.

Our business correspondent,

Emma Simpson reports.

A flat in a tower block in west

London engulfed in flames.

The smoke rising more

than ten stories.

The blaze itself

damaging five floors.

It started in this property,

and London Fire Brigade believe

the cause was a faulty tumble dryer

made by Whirlpool.

It has had a problem with defective

and potentially dangerous

tumble dryers since 2015,

when it discovered a defect

which could cause them to set fire.

Today, MPs described Whirlpool's

attempts to fix things

are slow and inadequate.

Their evidence was woeful.

Since 2004 they admit there have

been 740 fires in homes caused

by these tumble dryers,

and yet still today, in 2018,

there are a million of these tumble

dryers in peoples homes.

They need to take much

stronger action to get those

out of people's homes.

Her parliamentary committee has

looked into the safety

of electrical goods.

Among its recommendations,

it wants Whirlpool to deal with any

faulty machines within a fortnight

of being by customers.

All manufacturers should make risk

assessments available as soon

as defects are identified.

Safer materials to replace

plastic-backed fridge

freezers, which appear

to be a significant risk.

And it wants the Government

to actively explore the creation

of a single national product safety

agency to improve a system

which the MPs claim is fragmented

and under resourced.

Whirlpool says it has helped

the vast majority of customers

who have come forward so far,

and promises it will now serve

customers' problems with faulty

machines within a week.

The Government says Britain's

product safety requirements

are among the highest in the world

and it has already taken steps

to improve the current regime.

The controversial claim that the UK

sends £350 million a week to the EU

has been described as a "gross

underestimate" by the Foreign

Secretary, Boris Johnson.

In an interview with the Guardian

newspaper, Mr Johnson said Britain's

contribution would rise to almost

£440 million by the end of

the post-Brexit transition period.

Vote Leave's claim about the UK's

contribution to the EU was hotly

disputed during the EU referendum.

The supermarket chain, Iceland,

has said it will eliminate plastic

from its own brand products

within five years.

The retailer said plastic

would be replaced with paper

which could be recycled.

The move has been welcomed

by environmental campaigners

and comes amid growing concern over

plastic pollution in

the world's oceans.

New footage has emerged of a car

which became embedded in the first

floor of an office block in

California.

-- can video from a bus captures the

moment the car crosses its path

before flying through the air

towards the building -- dashcam

video.

That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9:30am.

Unbelievable images. Thank you. A

couple of messages from you on the

NHS, a tweaked pics of my

introduction when I said some people

are calling it a winter crisis. She

says some, what planet are you on?

In Bradford, people have been

transported and fire trucks to

hospital. Marissa says my father is

in hospital, the NHS have been

fantastic and helping him. Just a

problem the Aussie flu has put the

hospital in lockdown, we cannot even

visit. Kiss, Kiss. We will speak to

a British Australian patient in a

moment about his own experiences,

nothing to do with the Aussie flu,

but his experience of the NHS. We

have good and not so good

experiences.

Let's get some sport now with Hugh,

who can bring us up to date

with the Australian Open -

and Jo Konta has been enjoying

the heat, hasn't she?

Not many people would enjoy the heat

she has. She beat American Madison

Brengle 6-3, 6-1, ten nudging 40

degrees in Melbourne but Konta

called it a nice, sunny day. She

grew up in Australia. She enjoys the

heat. She reached the Australian

open semifinals in 2016, the

quarterfinals last year, both times

losing to eventual champion.

She is the ninth seed this year,

under her new coach, Michael Joyce,

she very much enjoyed herself

against Madison Brengle.

Next up is another American,

Bernarda Pera, who just ranked 123

in the world. Konta was able to

focus despite a blueberry tobacco on

a recent shopping trip!

I went to the supermarket to buy

Drew Brees, I only bought blue

breeze, two permits. I left Umaga

Benneteau blooper is there. That is

$5 I will not get back, but it is

more the betrayal of my own mind

that I felt so upset about the

blueberries, I was so upset.

The first soft fruit fiasco of the

year!

Heather Watson went down to Yulia

Putintseva from Kazakhstan but now

leads 5-4 on soma -- on serve in the

first set.

That is the latest from the women's

side of the game.

Johanna Konta has just tweeted that

she has managed to buy two permits

of blueberries and bring them back

with her.

Novak Djokovic chin action, what is

this about a stray?

You would think Johanna Konta has

the resource to get more

blueberries! Djokovic is seeded 14th

because he missed much of last year

with an elbow injury. He beat Donald

Young in straight sets in no time at

all this morning. There were reports

he held a meeting with players

before the tournament to propose

forming a new union to try to get

more price money and even suggested

boycotting the Australian Open next

year to get his way.

The prize money is in the

single-digit percentage rise of the

overall revenue of each Grand Slam,

although the

although the figures remain

impressive, between 28 and £36

million overall to the players. In

Melbourne the singles winners both

get £2.3 million. But in the NBA, it

is 50% of the overall sport's

turnover, so the players currently

represented by the ATP, and Djokovic

is the president of the players

cancel, reported to want a little

bit more. He wants more of that

money to go to players outside of

the top 50. Djokovic has responded

to reports this morning following

his game against Donald Young, he

feels he has been unfairly

portrayed. He says there has been no

talk of boycotts and that the story

has been greatly exaggerated. But

with all the talk over the last five

to ten years about the prospect of

making sure there is equal price

money between men and women in

tennis, now there seems to be a

question being floated by Novak

Djokovic at the least that the

overall money should be distributed

more fairly to all players.

This morning - how do we get

to grips with the enormous pressure

the NHS is under this winter

and in years to come?

Over the past few weeks,

we've seen A&Es over-crowded,

a lack of beds and queues

of ambulances stacked up outside

unable to hand over their patients.

On top of that as the NHS

approaches its 70th birthday -

it's having to deal with a growing

and ageing population adding more

pressure to its services.

After 10am, we're going

to discuss different ways

the NHS could be funded

from charging for certain

services to raising taxes to make

entirely different political

decisions, but first

we want to hear about your

experiences of the NHS.

So many of you got in touch last

week to tell us your stories -

we wanted to try and get a snapshot

of how hospitals

are coping right now.

Do get in touch wherever

you are this morning.

I'm going to introduce you to a

one-year-old who has been sitting

here so quietly for 15 minutes and

his mum Lucy is here too. Over

Christmas the baby had a chest

infection and had to wait nine hours

for a bed and Lucy a member of the

Labour Party. Dr John Robinson is

with us. His wife is being treated

for sepsis in hospital and is in a

critical state. Jordan Berry is

here. He sliced the top off his

finger and needed an operation. Ruth

just had a knee operation postponed.

Thank you very much for coming on

the programme. Right, can I give him

an I plad. Does that make no

difference?

It might help.

That

tells you about my parenting!

What's that?

Thank you so much for coming on.

Thank you. John, how is Mavis?

She

is more stable than she was. She has

been through a traumatic time with

sepsis which turned into pneumonia

and she got a blood clot in her

right arm, but as we speak, the

infection is coming under some sort

of control, but it there has been

setbacks with that and the blood

clot drugs have been given so

hopefully that will disperse the

blood clot in the right arm.

You

feel that her condition has been

exacerbated by the way her case has

been dealt with. Let's begin with

the arrival of the ambulance on 2nd

January. How long did it take?

Well,

the doctor came to visit at 12

o'clock. She booked the ambulance

for two having seen some other

important patients she had to see.

The ambulance never came until nine

o'clock so we waited seven hours and

that was despite ringing up on

several occasions to be told after

four hours, you know, it should be

there. You should be getting near

the top of the list. In fact, there

is no list. Other people come up,

you just drop down.

And when she was

taken to hospital, did she get a

bed?

Well, she didn't. We were

assured by the GP that she would

have a bed waiting for her, that

just didn't materialise at all.

When

did she get a bed?

She got a bed at

four o'clock the next day, so that

was after 18 hours in A&E.

Right.

Now, could you see that staff were

overstretched at that time?

I think

so, yeah. They were absolutely

flooded with patients in the major

incident unit. And the normal A&E

was seething. There was hundreds of

people in there.

Hill loining

don't's Hospital NHS Trust told us,

"All our staff are working flat-out

to minimise the time patients wait

to be seen. The unprecedented demand

we have experienced in recent weeks

left us operating at our full bed

capacity resulting in delays to

admissions and we deeply regret that

patients are having to wait." Do you

accept that?

Well, I accept that it

is not down, you know, the hospital

is just overload. There have been so

many cuts, having spoken to various

people in general practice, there

have been cuts across the whole

service, the bed-blocking that's

taking place because the people

cannot come out of the wards, where

my wife has been admitted to,

because...

It is really interesting

you say that because as you know,

NHS budgets in England have been

ring-fenced since 2010, but there

has been cuts to social care which

is elderly people in particular

going back into the community, £6

billion worth of cuts in that area

and it is interesting that you say

they were telling you it is because

of that bed-blocking that it is

really exacerbating the problem?

Yes. Yes. We are in the situation

where I can see in the ward that my

wife is in, with 60 people, they are

aged people. They are clearly going

to have a hell of a job releasing

the beds. When my wife went to A&E

that day, there were 20 beds, people

waiting for 20 beds were required

and some people waited up to 22

hours.

Gosh.

For a bed.

OK. Let me

bring in Jordan. Hi.

Hi.

We can see

you hurt your finger. It was more

than that, you actually sliced the

top of it, because you dropped a 34

kilogramme dumbbell on it Ouch.

It

hurt a lot.

You went to hospital in

a cab because you waited over an

hour for an ambulance?

Around about

an hour. It was a busy festive

period and you know I knew I could

make my way myself to the hospital.

So...

When you got there, how were

you treated?

I was treated

fantastically, as soon as I got

there, I could see it was brimming

with people. Being the festive

period, but they could see that I

was in acute, severe pain and they

brought me into a ward straightaway,

got me the great care that I needed.

I had three staff there in with me,

caring for me, and I thought that

they were very amicable and very

understanding, very caring.

Ultimately a really positive

experience

Oh yeah, world-class

experience. Very, very happy with

it.

Do you think that when people

are critical or feel that the NHS

deserves some criticism or the

system or whatever bit of the NHS

they want to criticise, they

shouldn't voice that?

I think that

it is OK to voice their experiences.

However, I think that it's very good

to have, you know, a bird's eye view

on things. I think that it's a bit

too much kind of generalise and

state that the NHS is in a crisis

because if you look recently like,

you know, with the high waits for

ambulance and ambulances because

there has been the uncertainty

thrown up over Brexit, you know,

with EU employees leaving the

Ambulance Service. Until all of that

is resolved, will we get raet

concrete answers on the Ambulance

Service. So I think it is important

to wait until that's all resolved

and not only that, we've had the flu

crisis as well with the Australian

flu coming on as well and because it

is winter and there is going to be a

higher amount of people within the

hospital, we need to take that into

view as to why that would increase

the amount of people in hospitals at

this current time.

Lucy, Remis was admitted a week

before Christmas. How was he treated

and cared for?

The treatment was

amazing. It was just the wait time

for him to get a bed that was really

difficult because we were receiving

treatment in the waiting room prior

to getting the bed, but I couldn't

fault the staff at all. You could

see the strain they were under.

How

long did it take?

We got admitted to

hospital, well we got referred by

the GP, we got to hospital at two

o'clock and we didn't get a bed

until about half past nine at night

and throughout that time he was

receiving treatment in the waiting

room in, in a public waiting room.

Where there other patients being

treated in the waiting room at the

same time?

Assessments, to see if

they were going to be admitted or to

go home. Yeah, lots of other

patients.

Clearly, you saw staff

under pressure.

Yeah.

Did you ever

feel it affected the way they did

their job?

No, I think they remained

professional throughout. There is no

doubt in my mind.

How is he now?

He's so much better now. He's poorly

on and off since September, but with

new medication that he has had, well

you can see he is fine now.

And your

hospital in Cornwall say they are

sorry for any delay and subsequent

admissions to a hospital ward, our

staff have been making heroic

efforts to meet the demand for our

services and to provide good, safe

care. Let me bring in Ruth who is in

Staffordshire, hello Ruth, you run a

printing business and you have

Rheumatoid Arthritis, you have had

it since you were a child and you

were due to have a knee operation

and what happened to the operation?

Well, it was cancelled just

yesterday morning actually. I had

assumed when I heard the news about

January operations being cancelled

that maybe, you know, I would be one

of them, but I didn't hear, you know

from the hospital until yesterday.

And the operation, I think, was due

Thursday, wasn't it?

Yes.

So news of

the cancellation, what impact does

that have on you and you trying to

go about your daily life, which

involves two children and running

your own business?

Well, it is

difficult for me because partly I

have to come off some of my

medicines in order to be able to

have the operation because I have an

over active immune system, I have to

be on immune suppressing drugs and

some have to be stopped for weeks

before the operation. So I put

myself into quite a flair up of the

disease by coming off the meds. So

it's and also have lined up a lot of

help and support for me whilst I was

in hospital to look after my

children and pick them up from

school and look after my dog and all

that sort of thing. Yeah, it is

disruptive, but it is disappointing.

The hospital says they would like to

alpoll jaous, but say that all

operations will resume at the

beginning of February which...

I

mean I just want to say, I don't

think it is the hospital's fault at

all. They made this clear they were

under orders and they were following

the orders that they had been given.

So, you know, the surgeon and the

nurses have been wonderful to me

there.

I'm going to try and read

some messages.

You can have a look as well Remis.

There are various experiences. Now

it has frozen.

I'm sorry.

It is not

your fault. The computer says no. I

will read them later.

Thank you very much all of tu for

coming on the programme. Thank you,

Remis. Thank you very much.

Remis. Thank you very much. After

10am, we are going to talk about

different funding suggestions for

the NHS. We heard from a

Conservative MP that might include

re-branding and redirecting national

insurance so it becomes national

health insurance. It might be down

to different political decisions. It

might be about charging for certain

services. If you have views on that,

if you have proposals, suggestions,

let me know because we're going to

talk about other solutions after

10am when it comes to the funding

crisis.

An alleged victim

of the football coach

Barry Bennell has told a court

that he was repeatedly abused

on visits to Butlins in North Wales

and on trips to Spain.

Our reporter Jon Donnison has

been following the trial

at Liverpool Crown Court.

Fill us in John from yesterday.

This

is the trial of 64-year-old Barry

Bennell. He is known as Richard

Jones. We've got pictures of him,

drawings appearing in Liverpool

Crown Court by videolink because of

ill-health yesterday. The court

heard from an alleged victim who

said he was abused after being

spotted playing for alschool

football team. Mr Bennell denies

four counts of bug Riaz the offence

was then called against this man who

would have been a teenager at the

time of the alleged abuse.

Yesterday, the man gave evidence

anonymously from behind a screen. He

was asked about the final time he

was allegedly abused. He said he

felt the lowest I have ever felt in

my life. I was a biggish, strongish

14-year-old lad and I felt like I

had been raped.

And there were allegations Barry

Bennell then contact that had player

years later?

Yes, this was in Twinl.

He says Mr Bennell sent him a

Facebook message or he believes he

did, although using an account under

a different name. He TVed that the

message said, "Good to see you have

a family and are enjoying life. I

got cancer a while back and it left

me in a mess. Pay back I hear you're

saying, well, I understand that if

you could find time, could you drop

me a line saying how your life is

going?" The complainant said he

didn't reply to that message of the

he was then asked under

cross-examination about £2,000 in

compensation, he was awarded after

Mr Bennell pleaded guilty to

offences in 1998. Asked if he felt

aggrieved about that amount, he said

I have felt aggrieved for years.

£2,000, it makes no difference. The

court heard the same man-made a

statement in 1994 in which he

accused Mr Bennell of attempted

buggery. He was asked why he did not

allege the more serious offence of

buggery, he said, "I wasn't strong

enough and I wasn't brave enough."

Mr Bennell is on trial for a total

of 48 charges against 11 boys and he

denies the charges and the trial

continues.

Thank you very much,

John, we will bring you up-to-date

with the trial every morning at

around this time on this programme.

Still to come...

A BBC investigation has found

a multi million pound diploma mill

in Pakistan which is

churning out fake degrees.

UK nations are buying them

up in their thousands,

We speak to someone whose job

is to check if degrees

are genuine or not.

-- UK nationals are buying them up

in their thousands.

Four times Olympic champion -

Simone Biles has revealed

that she was sexually abused

by Larry Nassar the gymnastics

doctor for Team USA.

We'll be talking to a former gymnast

later in the programme.

Time for the latest news.

Here's Reeta.

Thirteen brothers and sisters

between the ages of two

and 29 have been discovered

in a malnourished and dirty state

at their home in California.

Their parents have been

charged with torture

and child endangerment.

Some of the children had been

chained to their beds.

The alarm was raised on Sunday,

when one girl escaped

and alerted the authorities.

The four-time Olympic champion

gymnast Simone Biles

has said she was sexually abused

by the USA team

doctor, Larry Nassar.

In a tweet, Simone Biles

described herself

as one of many survivors -

but said she had been reluctant

to speak out until now.

Larry Nassar was jailed last month

for 60-years for possessing images

of child sexual abuse -

and is awaiting sentence

for assaulting other athletes.

The future of some major

construction projects and hundreds

of public service contracts hang

in the balance this

morning after the

collapse of Carillion.

Britain's second largest

construction firm -

which also holds cleaning

and catering contracts for schools,

hospitals and prisons -

went into liquidation yesterday

with debts of around

£1.5 billion.

MPs say the manufacturer Whirlpool

hasn't done enough to deal

with defective tumble dryers

which have caused hundreds of fires.

The Commons Business Committee said

the response to the problem,

discovered in 2015, had been woeful.

It also said that it was

"unacceptable" that more

than one million potentially

dangerous dryers were still being

used in people's homes.

The company insists its repair

campaign has been successful.

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

News just in, the latest inflation

figures, the rate of Consumer Prices

Index inflation fell to 3% in

December, from 3.1% in November.

That just in from the Office of

National Statistics, inflation has

fallen slightly from 3% of... Sorry,

from 3.1% in November to 3% in

December.

I now have some of your comments

about the situation in the NHS. Lots

of you say there are times in many

people in A&E that only to be there.

Hallett says I have been to St

George's Hospital in tooting, that

A&E twice in the last three months.

I was triage, blood tested and

scanned within 2.25 hours. I got the

impression that half the patients

there did not need to be there.

Katy Dunne to it as it is time the

many goods A&E because they can't

get GP appointments.

James says granddaughter broke her

arm over Christmas. She got fast and

first class treatment from the

hospital.

But whilst on the waiting area a man

and his partner were swearing at

staff because others were seen

before him.

He was boasting how he had beaten a

guide the night before and had cuts

to his knuckles as a result.

Most people would have sold their

hands and anti-septic and

anti-septic address this at home.

Some doctors have got in touch.

Aussie flu is causing havoc with

primary care services in hospital

attendances, says Doctor Singh. It

is not too later the flu jab, we're

running special flu vaccination

clinics, please remind people.

Dan says I am a doctor in the NHS,

please correct anyone who says it is

free. It is not. The paper it

through taxation, which is the most

efficient way of funding health

care.

The problem is not how we are

funding the NHS, but how much we

have cut, 14,000 beds in 2010.

We will talk about different ways of

funding the NHS in a sustainable

way, that is the issue. After 10am,

your proposals are very welcome.

Now the sport.

Johanna Konta is through to the

second round of the Australian Open.

She's the ninth seed in Melbourne

this year and beat Madison Brengle

in straight sets in temperatures

approaching 40 degrees.

She had no problems with that,

having grown up in Australia.

A similar story for Novak Djokovic.

He had an easy win

over Donald Young.

Djokovic is only seeded 14th

in Melbourne after missing

the second half of last year

with an elbow injury.

Manchester United have reduced

Manchester City's lead at the top

of the Premier League to 12 points

after beating Stoke last night.

They won 3-0 at Old Trafford

with new Stoke boss Paul Lambert

watching from the stands.

Anthony Martial micro-2-macro others

scored. -- Anthony Martial and two

others scored.

United could have a major signing

in the next few days too.

Manchester City have ended

their interest in Alexis Sanchez.

So United and now we understand

Chelsea too are battling to sign

the Chilean from Arsenal.

Much more coming up just after 10am.

Thousands of UK nationals

have bought fake degrees

from a multi-million pound "diploma

mill" in Pakistan, a BBC

investigation has found.

Buyers include NHS consultants,

nurses and a large

defence contractor.

One British buyer spent almost

£500,000 on bogus documents.

The claims are being made

in BBC Radio 4's File

on four programme -

reporter Simon Cox can tell us more.

Tell us what you have discovered.

3000 fake degrees had been bought by

people in Britain. They came from a

company called Exact, based in

Pakistan. They are not just fluffing

up people see these, they are

doctors working in the NHS, nurses,

lawyers, psychologists. The

interesting thing is knowing did

they use them to get their job? They

are lots of their professional

profiles, if they use them to get

their job they could be breaking the

law and they could be prosecuted for

fraud.

You manage to buy one?

I went

online, there are hundreds of these.

They look pretty legitimate when you

at them, they tend to claim they are

US universities. You go online, I

was going for a degree in business

management, which I know nothing

about and in ten minutes I could

have bought it for 2500. I could

have got a Masters or PhD if I

wanted. They even show you what the

degree would look like when they

send it to you.

I have a load

printed out. This is Williamsburg

University, I don't know if you can

see. The Board of Trustees,

accordance with the recommendation

of the faculty coming confers upon,

insert your own name, the degree,

bachelor of laws, upper second

class. I'm a bit of rubbishy paper

with the rubbish printed it does not

look amazing, but you could make it

look amazing. -- on a bit of

rubbishy paper.

They will send you

extra courses, they will show you

the courses you are meant to have

taken. They were very blatant about

it.

it. Some people got back in touch

and said you are not a university,

you do not exist, and they tried to

bluff it. They said they were in

America, one said Washington, the

other California. Even when you

confront them they try to maintain

this fiction that they are a real

university.

One company, having sold

a fraudulent degree, tried to

blackmail the buyer of

aforementioned fake degree?

This

company, Exact, sold over 200,000 of

these globally. They thought they

had a great database of people who

they thought they could blackmail.

They did this with lots of people.

We looked at one case of a guy

called Cecil Horner who works in

Saudi Arabia for 20 years, died in

2015, we spoke to his son Malcolm.

He was going to his De Plus my

papers, found his dad had bought

some fake degrees but also he had

been blackmailed -- he went through

his dad plus my papers.

It became clear it was just

acquiring qualifications, it was

then chasing him up, having done

that, to essentially blackmail him,

saying you have got degrees that are

not official, we will report you to

the Foreign Office, they will kick

you out of the country, you will

lose your job, you are not qualified

to your job. And that... And that

clearly gotten scared and very wound

up.

What is interesting about his case,

he is the person that you mention,

almost £500,000. One person per

payment, then he paid almost

£500,000 to this company or the four

years. -- a £1000 payment, then he

paid almost £500,000 to this

company.

And that programme is on at

APM tonight. -- at 8pm.

We can speak now to Jayne Rowley,

who is from Higher Education

Degree Datacheck -

the UK organisation which checks

whether degrees are valid or not.

And to David d'Souza

from the Chartered Institute

of Personnel and Development,

which is the professional body

for people working in HR

for employers across the UK.

Thank you both for joining us.

Jayne, how do you react to what

Simon Cox has discovered?

I am not

shocked at all. We have been aware

of the problem for quite some time.

I am saddened that people are being

blackmailed, there are innocent

victims, but it stems from the fact

that employees do not make proper

checks, so people can get away with

fake certificates, fake universities

thrive.

Let me bring in David, from the

chartered Institute of personnel and

development. Employers do not make

proper checks?

Large-scale employers

like the NHS make proper checks.

Tend to

I cannot vouch for every

employer but I think the NHS will

make scrupulous checks. There

make scrupulous checks. There is a

difference between employers

expressing a preference for a degree

and not checking, and professions

that really require professional

qualifications. They will be

thoroughly checked.

In terms of your

organisation, Jayne, how do you help

employers spot potential fake

qualifications on job applications?

Sometimes it is very difficult. You

can look out for use of language,

spelling and grammar, but the only

certain way to Chequers to contact

the universities directly, they have

the qualifications in their

database. That can be done quickly

easily directly with the

universities, or through Head. Some

of the fake certificates look really

good and lots of employers are

fools.

What is your advice? About

--

lots of employers are fooled.

They

need to check qualifications, and

throughout the interview process

they need to check they are doing

things the relief. It should never

be a surprise that somebody does not

have a qualification. They could

really scrutinise whether people

actually needs a degree to do the

job. One of the things we are

proliferating in the UK is that

people put down we would like people

to have a degree as a preference,

which makes it harder for people to

move and encourages people to go to

fake universities.

Does it? Why?

Just because an employer requires

something does not mean you have to

life.

But if your job does not

require degree standard

qualifications and you put it

anyway, it is frustrating to

candidates to feel locked out of an

opportunity that they have the

experience to deliver, they might

have an apprenticeship in or a

suitable background.

So do you have some sympathy with

applicants who buy fake degrees

because a job description requires

that?

I don't think I have sympathy,

you should never lie in those

circumstances, but it is a tough

economy and employers are not

thinking about how they can be more

inclusive. It invites people to take

short cuts.

Is that a fair point,

Jayne, people are encouraged to take

short cuts because employers do not

think very hard about whether a job

requires a degree?

It can be

difficult when people feel they have

the skills, but at the point which

you put something down on a CV or

job application which is not true,

an employer has to question himself

about that person's integrity. Do

you want somebody in your

organisation who has lied to get in?

Employers need to think about the

skill sets required and the

qualifications, but applicants

should not lie about.

Thank you, Jayne and David.

File on 4: Degrees

of Deception is on BBC

Radio 4 tonight at 8pm

Cunningham, the TUC is calling on

the Government to come up with a

task force the collapse of

Carillion. -- coming up, the TUC is.

Four-time Olympic champion

Simone Biles says she was sexually

abused by former Team USA gymnastics

sports doctor Larry Nassar.

Many of you will remember

Simone Biles from the Rio Olympics -

she wowed everyone with her amazing

performances and was dubbed

"untouchable" and the "greatest

gymnast anyone had ever seen".

Now in an emotional statement

she says that she too was one

of those abused by Nassar

but that she would not let him

steal her "love" and joy".

Nassar was jailed for 60 years

for possessing child sex

abuse images and has also

admitted assaulting gymnasts.

This is Simone Biles'

full statement:

Most of you know me as a happy,

giggly and energetic girl, but

lately I have felt a bit broken, and

the more I try to shut off the voice

in my head, the loaded screens. I am

not afraid to tell my story any

more.

I too and one of the many survivors

is that was sexually abuse by Larry

Nassar. Please believe me when I say

it was a lot harder to first speak

those words out loud than it is now

to put them on paper. There are many

reasons that I have been reluctant

to share my story, but I now know it

is not my fault. It is not normal to

receive any type of treatment from a

trusted team physician and refer to

it horrifyingly as the special

treatment. This behaviour is

completely unacceptable, disgusting

and abusive. Especially coming from

someone whom I was told to trust.

For too long I have asked myself,

was I too naive, wasn't my fault? I

now know the answer to those

questions. No. No, it was not my

fault. No, I will not and should not

carry the guilt belongs to Larry

Nassar, USA G and others. It is

impossible for me... It is

impossibly difficult to relive these

experience and it breaks my heart

more to think that as I worked

towards my G Mosse working towards

Tokyo 2020, I will have to return to

the same training of facility where

it abused.

After hearing the break stories of

my friends and other survivors, I

know that this horrific experience

does not define me. I am much more

than this. I am unique, smart,

talented, motivated and passionate.

I have promised myself that my story

will be much greater than this, and

I promise all of you that I will

never give up. I will compete with

all of my heart and soul every time

I step into the gym. I love this

board too much and I have never been

a quitter. I won't let one man and

the others that enabled him to steal

my love and joy. We need to know why

this was able to take place for so

long and to so many of us. We need

to make sure something like this

never happens again. As I continue

to work through the pain, I kindly

ask everyone to respect my privacy.

This is a process, and one that I

need more time to work through.

Kiss, hug, Simone Biles.

Larry Nassar was involved

with the US gymnastics programme

from the 1980s until July 2015,

when the sport's national

governing body sacked him.

As well as Simone Biles,

three other former US

Olympians have accused him

of sexual abuse under the guise

of medical treatment,

and more than 130 women have

filed civil lawsuits

against him alleging abuse.

One of those Olympic gymnasts

is Aly Raisman, who spoke

about the abuse to American TV.

Why are we looking at why didn't the

girls speak up? Why not look at what

about the culture? What did US

gymnastics do and Larry Nassar do to

manipulate these girls so much that

they are so afraid to speak up?

You're angry?

I am angry. I'm really

upset because it has been, I dare a

lot, you know, when I see these

young girls that come up to me and

they ask for pictures or autographs

or whatever it is, every time I look

at them, every time I see them

smiling, I just think, I just want

to create change so that they never

ever have to go that.

We can speak now to Craig Heap -

a former Commonwealth Games Gold

medal winning gymnast,

who also went to Sydney Olympics

and has gone on to

coach and commentate.

He's also just about

to set up own gym.

And to Martha Kelner,

a journalist, who's investigated

a British gymnastics coach over

claims of child neglect and physical

and emotional abuse.

Thank you for talking to us. Craig

Heap, how do you react to what

Simone Biles has told the world?

Well, I've just listened to the

statement again and I just feel

physically sick to believe that, you

know, something like this system of

abuse has gone on for so long and no

action has been taken and it does,

it sends a shiver down your spine. I

certainly think in about the new

business I'm going into, hopefully

set up a new gymnastic academy, it

is a beautiful sport which has been

tarnished by the actions, not only

by Larry Nassar, but it seems like a

host of people that have covered it

up and it's a time now where action

needs to be taken. There is

questions that need to be answered

and people need to be punished for

what's gone on.

Yes. Martha, Craig

says that it seems other people have

covered it up and from Simone Biles'

statement she said she was told to

trust this man. I mean, that is just

shocking, isn't it?

I think that's

what makes this case so serious and

so horrifying really. It's the abuse

of that power. It's a man who these

young women put their trust in and

he, you know, he took advantage of

that in the worst possible way and I

think you can really hear the anger

both in Simone Biles written

statement, but also Ali Raisman, she

is seething. It is quite clear she

is very angry at the treatment that

she received from USA gymnastics and

there probably has to be a look at

the whistle-blowing and the

procedures within that organisation

because those young women felt like

they couldn't speak up.

I wonder if

it is something unique to gymnastics

in this respect in that you can

reach an elite level at such a young

age in gymnastics, can't you?

It is

an early specialised sport and

that's one of the problems is

because you have young people

involved in physical activity, and

unfortunately the world we live in,

this area is where these people will

target groups to get involved. I

think the biggest shock to me is

that this guy has been involved

since the 1980s. The gymnasts have

felt that they can't speak out.

There has been maybe some sort of

cover-up. And at what point do you

go that's acceptable, enough is

enough.

enough. They have had success and

maybe in the past, the gymnasts have

said to the coaches, "I'm not happy

about this sort of treatment." Maybe

the coaches have said, "Well, you

know, some of these things, you just

have to put up with because of the

coaches desire to be successful. I

think the whole system really needs

looking at and the coaches of these

gymnasts, you know, if the gymnasts

have said this tomb, "I'm being

abused." What have the coaches done

about it? I have had a fantastic

relationship with all my coaches and

I have been lucky enough to have

been in a system where I have not

seen any of this abuse, but I felt

that I had a strong enough

relationship with my coach he would

have definitely done something about

it. So there are lots of questions

not only for USA gymness Aks, but

for the coaches of these gymnasts if

they have raised their concerns.

Martha, in this country, as far as I

am aware, at the top level of

gymnasts there have been no claims

of sexual abuse, but from your

investigations there has been claims

of physical abuse and allegations of

emotional abuse. Remind our audience

about those?

Yeah, I think it is key

to say that there is not been any

allegations of that seriousness, but

I think you can also under estimate

how much of a toll physical and

particularly emotional abuse takes

and there have been numerous

allegations in recent years about

emotional abuse and there was a

police investigation last year into

a coach who was abused of

emotionally abusing female athletes

within their care. So, we do have to

be vigilant of those cases and I

think Craig and yourself mentioned

there about how young an age you do

become an elite gymness and female

gymnasts can go to the Olympics aged

16 and for male gymnasts it is 18.

So I wonder whether maybe female

gymnasts are more vulnerable to

abuse if there is more of a chance

of them being exploited in that way.

OK.

I wonder Craig, I mean you heard in

Simone Biles statement that she is

going to have to go back to this

training facility to preparing for

Tokyo 2020, the very facility where

she says the sexual abuse happened.

I mean, I think that's ridiculous.

If USA gymnastics are talking about

change and moving forward, the first

thing they need to do is build a new

national centre away from this. Yes,

you know, it's not cheap to build a

gymnastics centre, but you're

talking about, you know, victims

that have gone through serious

abuse, returning to that scene. It

is just the most ludicrous thing

that I've ever heard of within

sport. It certainly won't happen

anywhere else so they really need to

look at that and say we are totally

supportive in my mind by returning

to the camp it's almost saying well,

we just want to forget about it. You

can't forget about this. Over 130

victims, you know, at the hands of

this nasty, horrible man within that

centre so, they really need to look

at changing the venue for certain.

Thank you very much, Craig Heap,

thank you for coming on the

programme and Martha, journalist

from the Guardian. British

gymnastics deny any claims about a

culture of fear.

The government has promised its top

priority will be maintaining

vital public services,

after Carillion was

put into liquidation.

Our reporter Andy Moore has more

details on this story now.

What's the latest today, Andy?

The

question is about the tens of

thousands of companies that are

subject contractors for Carillion,

people working in hospitals, prisons

and schools, they will be paid about

the Government, what about the

private subcrat rs. They have been

saying that Carillion wasn't a good

payer in the past anyway, a lot have

outstanding debt and now it looks as

if many of them won't be paid for

the contracts that are up coming.

And there is evidence from the past

that when there is a big collapse

like this, many of the small

subcontractors won't survive. There

is evidence from the past, 17%, 18%

of them won't survive after five

years, we have heard from one

company saying it has an impact,

possible financial impact of £1.6

million and it has warned its

shareholders about the adverse

financial impact.

And questions

continue to be asked about president

government giving Carillion

contracts after a profits warning

and after the Chief Executive

departed last summer and about why

that former Chief Executive is being

paid a very large salary until

October this year?

That's right. The

former Chief Executive was paid £1.6

million. He is going to be paid

£600,000 as you say, until October

this year. So a lot of questions

being asked about that. The Liberal

Democrat leader, Sir Vince Cable,

said it was a reward for failure.

David Lidington from the Government

said the whole situation would be

looked at and there could be a

financial penalty if misconduct was

proved.

Thank you very much, Andy, thank

you.

We will bring you the latest news

and sport in the next couple of

minutes. Before that, here is the

weather and Carol, what is going on,

it's getting colder.

weather and Carol, what is going on,

it's getting colder.

If I show you some of our Weather

Watcher pictures you can see where

we have had the snow. A beautiful

picture from the Highlands and we've

got another one too, this is North

Yorkshire. Some lying snow here and

finally, well, we have got some more

snow too across County Antrim. So it

is northern England and Northern

Ireland and Scotland seeing the

lion's share of the snow fall. Even

down to sea level. Elsewhere, today,

we are looking at showers. Some of

those across Wales and central

England will be wintry through the

afternoon in the heavier showers,

but generally there will be rain

with hail and that will be the case

as we push further south. It is a

brisk wind. And also driving the

showers. So, with height across

Northern Ireland, Scotland and

northern England, well we are

looking at drifting and also

potentially blizzard conditions. But

at lower levels you can see the snow

showers. They will be blowing around

in the wind. For northern England

further snow showers to come your

way, but they are showers so not all

of us are seeing them. For Wales,

most of the showers will be rain or

hail at lower levels, but in some of

the heavier ones we could see snow

at lower levels too. Gusty winds

whipping up large waves across

south-west England. That will be the

case for the next few days and

again, we are looking at the wintry

flavour on the moors for example,

largely with height. But for much of

the Midlands, East Anglia and the

South East, it should stay dry. If

you see a shower, it is more likely

to be of rain. The temperatures

today will be two to seven Celsius.

Add on the strength of the wind,

it's going to feel sub-zero for many

parts of the UK. Through this

evening and overnight, we continue

with the snow showers. A good flurry

of them crossing from the west

towards the east being driven in on

the wind. There will be the risk of

ice on untreated surfaces and it's

going to be a cold night. These are

the temperatures you can expect in

towns and cities. So we start

tomorrow on this note. Still a lot

of snow showers. Some of them fading

as we go through the day. The wind

will ease for a time, but it won't

last and we will see a lot of dry

weather and more sunshine than we're

expecting today, but the next system

is waiting in the wings. Now this is

an area of low pressure that's

forming off the coast of the United

States. It will deepen as it moves

across the Atlantic and this is the

track we think it's going to take,

but this track could change

slightly. So as it comes in across

the k, it will bring heavy rain.

Some snow across Northern Ireland,

North Wales, northern England,

southern and eastern parts of

Scotland. That could be disruptive

snow. We expect it to be quite

heavy. If you look at the isobars,

they are squeeze the tightly, we are

looking at gales across North Wales,

parts of northern England, heading

down through parts of the Midlands

and Norfolk. That will rattle

through quickly during the course of

Thursday morning. Leaving behind it

still a windy day, just not as

windy, wherever you are, with

temperatures between three and

around nine Celsius.

#r

Hello it's Tuesday, it's 10 O'Clock,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

Our top story this morning -

13 brothers and sisters have

been rescued from a house

in California, some of them had

been chained to their beds.

Their parents have been

charged with torture.

Here were some kids from 29 to two,

held captive and malnourished.

It's heartbreaking.

The siblings were rescued after one

girl managed to escape

and raise the alarm.

We'll bring you the full

story this morning.

A Marie Stopes clinic in London

could become the first

to be surrounded by a special

protection zone, to shield women

from anti-abortion protesters

holding vigils outside.

We can see the women being addressed

as "mum" on the way out and saying -

youed shouldn't have killed your

child, you shouldn't have murdered

your child.

We'll be speaking to a nurse

from the clinic about the impact

on patietns of those protests

And if you were in charge of the

NHS, what would you do to sort out

the printer pressures, to sort out

the lack of beds, and queues with

ambulances. Your views are welcome

in the next hour.

Good Morning.

Here's Reeta in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news.

Police in California have rescued 13

siblings from a house,

where some of them were shackled

to their beds.

The alarm was raised on Sunday,

when one girl escaped

and alerted the authorities.

Their parents have been arrested

and charged with torture

and child endangerment.

Our North America Correspondent

James Cook has this report.

They look like a big, happy family.

The children a little pale,

perhaps, but smiling.

Photographs on Facebook show

the Turpins visiting

Disneyland and in Las Vegas,

as their apparently proud parents

renewed wedding vows.

Now David and Louise Turpin

are under arrest, charged

with torture and child endangerment.

Their children in hospital.

Our staff is used to taking care

of people who are quite ill,

they are used to compassionate care,

and so we pull out all the stops,

so to speak, to make sure

that their privacy is dealt with,

that they get appropriate care

and that they are treated

with dignity and respect at a time

when they need it the most.

The horror on Muir Woods Road

was uncovered early on Sunday

morning when a 17-year-old girl

escaped with a mobile phone

and called the police.

At the home, officers found 12

siblings and were shocked

to discover that seven were adults -

the oldest, 29.

The captives were dirty

and malnourished, say police,

shackled to their beds with chains

and padlocks in dark

and foul-smelling surroundings.

As the reporters arrived in the

quite suburb in Los Angeles,

neighbours were stunned.

neighbours were stunned.

They coat

to themselves.

They kept to themselves,

in a sense, clan-ish,

so they only kept to themselves.

And the only time you would see

them, you would never see anyone

visit, you would never see anyone

come outside, all you would really

see is that they would go out

and maybe make a grocery run

and that was about it.

There is no hint at all here of the

grim conditions inside this home.

The questions about what

happened are mounting.

Not least, how long were

the siblings held captive and why.

James Cook, BBC News,

Perris, California.

The future of some major

construction projects and hundreds

of public service contracts hang in

the balance this morning, after the

collapse of Carillion. Britain's

second largest construction firm,

which also holds cleaning and

catering contracts for schools,

hospitals and prisons, went into

liquidation yesterday, with debts of

around £1.5 billion.

The four time Olympic gymnastcy moan

Biles has said she has been abused.

She said she has been reluctant to

speak out until now. Larry Na Serbs

r was jailed last month for 60 years

for possessing images of child

sexual abuse and is awaiting

sentence for assaulting other

athletes.

Inflation eased slightly

from its six-year high in December.

The Consumer Prices Index

slipped to an annual rate

of 3% - down from 3.1%

in November.

Across the eurozone,

inflation stood at just 1.4%.

New footage has emerged of a car

that became embedded on the first

floor of an office block inical

foreignia. Video from a bus captures

the moment the car crosses its path

before flying through the air

towards the building. The driver and

passenger escaped with minor

injuries.

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

More at 10.30am.

We have a text from somebody who is

in hospital right now. They don't

leave their name, "The staff are

mazing and my experience is positive

but it is clear the nurses, doctors

ands fa its are being overworked.

It's not sustainable. I'm sick of

Conservative politicians taking any

credit for our fabulous NHS, when

they've presided over such

inadequate funding." And this text

"Part of the problem is river Friday

and Saturday night, without fail,

the A&E is full of the same idiots

taking up valuable resources repeat

or second thoird offenders should

incur a £50 charge. It won't fix the

problem but it would happen, not

least the savings, if two security

staff helping with this unwanted

disruption." And this on twitter.

"Two ladies at my loikal GP, with

snotty noses after free Calpol. Why?

You can see why GPs are swamped."

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Here's some sport now with Hugh.

British number one Johanna Konta

is through to the second

round of the Australian Open.

Her win over Madison Brengle took

place in temperatures

of almost 40 degrees.

Although Konta said she really

enjoyed the heat in Melbourne

and tried to absorb the atmosphere

in the arena and she certainly

looked comfortable out there,

dropping only four games in a match

that lasted a little over an hour

and afterwards she seemed more

concerned with what she's called

"the blueberry debacle".

I went to the supermarket to buy

blueberries. I only bought

blueberries. Two pun ets. I left two

pun ets tlchl it is $5 I will not

get back but it is the betrayal of

my own mind I feel so upset about. I

was so sad.

Breaking news, this

morning, it is OK, she has more

blueberries, since.

Britain's other player

in the women's draw, Heather Watson,

is a set down in her match

against Yulia Putintseva.