18/01/2018 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Thursday, it's 9am,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

welcome to the programme.

An extra £44.5 million

for border controls in France.

That's what Theresa May will promise

to pay at a meeting today with

French President Emmanuel Macron.

More cash flow Calais, but is that

because Mrs May needs president

Macron's backing for a Brexit deal?

Does this mean an end to migrants

camping out at Calais trying

to get here to the UK?

We'll find out.

Parts of the UK are being battered

by strong winds and snow.

We'll have the latest on the

disruption to roads and schools.

And England's top prosecutors meet,

to talk about the collapse

of a number of recent rape trials.

One defendant told us

how his life had been ruined,

because evidence which cleared him

was not disclosed earlier.

The last two years, I've

just spent worrying,

so it has ripped apart

my personal life.

We'll speak to the lawyer of man

who's rape trail collapsed this week

after photos emerged

of the complainant cuddling

the defendant in bed.

Hello.

It is Thursday already.

Welcome to the programme,

we're live until 11am this morning.

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morning after researchers in London

suggested all women should be

tested for the so-called

"Angelina Jolie gene"

mutations to the BCRA gene.

For all women over the age of 30.

If you carry of the faulty gene,

or you've been tested for it,

we'd love to hear from

you this morning.

Irrespective of your age. What kind

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Our top story today, Britain

is to increase its contribution

towards border controls in France

by 44-and-a-half million pounds,

and commit to taking more migrants.

The money will be spent on fencing,

security cameras and body scanners

at Calais and other Channel ports.

The deal will be announced

at a UK-French summit this

afternoon, at which Theresa May

will conclude a series of agreements

with President Emmanuel Macron.

Their meeting is being seen

as the most important

for several years, as our

Diplomatic Correspondent,

James Robbins, reports.

This summit is very deliberately

being held at Sandhurst, Britain's

military academy for officer cadets.

The venue underlines the fact that

Britain and France are the key

military powers in Europe,

used to working together and today,

committing to greater cooperation.

Even if the background to all

of this, of course, is Brexit.

And in other ways,

Britain and France are

heading in very

different directions.

Under pressure from President

Macron, Theresa May will

take on some migrants stuck

in Calais and desperate to cross the

Channel.

So, expect more unaccompanied

children to be allowed

into Britain as well as adults

who successfully argue that their

admission will reunify families.

But the longer-term deals

will focus on defence.

Britain is sending

three British Chinook

helicopters to Mali,

they're large troop

carrying aircraft which

the

French badly lack in their fight

against Islamists.

So, Britain will

broaden its military

involvement in Africa

without committing troops.

In return, France will back-up

British forces in the

Baltic states of Estonia.

There, confronting

the potential Russian threat.

James Robbins, BBC News.

In a moment we'll get the thoughts

of our political guru Norman Smith

but first our correspondent

Hugh Schofield is in Paris.

How much is this to do with Brexit?

It has and it hasn't. The French are

quite clear that there is Brexit and

there is the bilateral relationship.

And near the twain shall meet. At

this meeting today, it's clear that

on the face of it it is dominated by

things related to the bilateral

relationship. Calais is a

bilateral... The agreement which is

all about the border controls, that

is a two-way outside the EU

agreement in France and Britain.

Security and defence. The extremely

important part of this meeting as

all summits, it is not part of the

EU. Lots to talk about. Both

countries have an interest in seeing

the bilateral relationship, which

predated the EU and will outlast the

EU, is still very much on track.

There's no way you can say that

these talks will contain, you give

us a bit on Calais and we will be

kinder on passport rights for

British banks. That's not the way it

works. But in the background, of

course, there is the whole Brexit

debate. And the wrangling, which

will go on for another two or three

years over that. Indirectly, the

relationship which is forged three

meetings like this and the bilateral

relationship, will have an impact on

the longer and more arduous Brexit

talks.

-- forged through meetings.

Norman, how important is today's

meeting with Theresa May?

It's

important, not just because of

keeping the deal on Calais, which,

you know, British politicians view

as an unbelievably good deal.

Because, basically, it means our

border controls are not at Dover,

they are on French soil in Calais.

From the British perspective, we are

desperate to keep that deal. Many

British politicians have always been

quite amazed that the French have

been prepared to stick by it. An

extra 44 million quid? Yeah, we will

pay that, that's fine. The other

part of this meeting, which is

crucial, the personal dynamic

between Theresa May and President

Macron. The lunch when the two sit

down together is absolutely pivotal,

not necessarily because there will

be any particular deal on Brexit,

but because of how they get on. It

is quite clear from the British

government's perspective that they

think the best route to getting a

good deal on Brexit is to bypass the

European Commission and get

individual countries sympathetic

on-board with Britain. Which is why

we saw David Davis and Philip

Hammond going over to Germany just

the other week to smooth and the

Germans. Mrs May will hope to strike

up a friendly and convivial

relationship with President Macron,

hoping that cometh the hour, he will

adopt a more sympathetic approach to

Britain when it comes to those

crucial Brexit trade negotiations.

Thank you. More on that throughout

the morning. Let's have the rest of

the morning's news.

Annita is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary

of the rest of the days news.

Taxpayers owe private

companies £199 billion

for schemes set up under

Private Finance Initiatives,

according to the government's

spending watchdog.

The National Audit office found 716

deals were currently

operational under PFI

and its successor, PF2,

with annual costs amounting

to more than £10 billion.

The government says both schemes

improved public services.

The report was written before

the collapse of Carillion,

which held a number of contracts,

including some under PFI schemes.

Heavy snow fall is continuing

to cause problems in parts

of Scotland and northern England,

with drivers warned to proceed

with "extreme caution"

while on the roads.

While travel warnings have been

downgraded police say

there is still the likelihood

of disruption and delays.

Elsewhere, severe gales

and heavy rain are affecting

other parts of the UK.

Some areas reported gusts of up

to 70 miles per hour.

More than 10,000 homes have been

left without power in Essex.

There are calls for all women over

the age of 30 to be screened

for a faulty gene linked to higher

rates of breast and ovarian cancer.

Research by the Barts Cancer

Institute in London found testing

would prevent thousands of cancers,

and be cost-effective for the NHS.

It's emerged that residents

of a privately-owned tower

block in south London

with the same cladding

as Grenfell Tower may be forced

to pay up to £2 million

for replacement panels.

The company, which manages

Citiscape in Croydon,

which failed a fire safety test

following the disaster,

said it was "committed

to minimising" costs.

It will take the case to a property

tribunal next month,

to determine who should

foot the bill.

Scotland Yard says it's

investigating a third complaint

of sexual assault against the actor,

Kevin Spacey.

The allegation relates

to an incident

in Westminster in 2005.

Kevin Spacey, who has not been

charged with any offences, has

denied previous claims against him.

Patient safety in Accident

and Emergency Units in Wales

is being compromised

to an "unacceptable degree"

according to hospital consultants.

A group of 46 doctors is warning

of the risks in a letter sent

to the First Minister,

which has been seen by BBC News.

Our Wales Correspondent

Sian Lloyd reports.

We have heard warnings of emergency

units in other parts of the UK

being at breaking point and this

time it's the turn of doctors

in Wales to speak out.

The group of consultants who have

written to the Welsh First Minister

believe the situation

here is the worst it has ever been.

This is hugely concerning.

We are seeing staff members,

that are coming into work,

the staff are the glue that holds

the NHS together, the staff

are coming in, doing their shifts

and sometimes going home in tears.

We have patients in

the department where we don't

have space to see them.

We come back the next day and some

of the patients are still here.

The monthly performance

figures for Wales will be

published later this morning.

But in this letter, consultants warn

the First Minister that the four

hour target times for Wales' best

performing hospitals are similar

to those from some of

the worst-performing

hospitals in England.

It acknowledges efforts have been

made to plan for winter

pressures, including more investment

but says it's simply not enough.

Patient safety is being compromised,

the doctors say, and the letter

calls for a significant

increase in funding.

Those in charge of the NHS

in Wales say it has been

a very challenging winter

with demand exceeding expectations.

They believe there are signs that

things are improving.

The European Court of Human

Rights is due to rule in the case of

100 leading athletes challenging a

requirement for them to advise

anti-doping officials of their

whereabouts at all times. The group

claims the regime violates their

privacy and is contrary to their

freedom of movement. If the case

succeeds, the world anti-doping

agency would face a crisis, as it

can't appeal against the ruling.

A survey by an educational charity

suggests some parents are subsiding

a childcare scheme for three

and four year olds in England,

which the government says is free.

Since September, parents working

more than 16 hours a week have been

able to claim 30 hours

of free childcare.

But the majority of nursery

providers say they're struggling

to cover their costs.

Police in Portugal and Spain have

broken up an international

drug smuggling ring.

That used boxes of fruit to bring

in cocaine from South America.

Authorities found more

than 700 kilogrammes

of the drug hidden in pineapples

packed in shipping containers.

Nine people have been arrested.

The actor Peter Wyngarde,

who played the flamboyant 60s

crime-fighter Jason King,

has died aged 90.

Wyngarde shot to fame in the series

"Department S" but was also

a prolific stage actor and director.

His agent described Wyngard

as the most extraordinary

man he had ever met.

That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30am.

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Let's get some sport...

The main British hope that the

Australian open is already out?

Yes,

Johanna Konta, the number nine seed

in the women's singles, high hopes

for my Melbourne, she played really

well in previous years. Despite the

fact she was out of form of late and

was working with a new coach at this

year's Australian Open, it won't

mean that her defeat overnight isn't

a disappointment for her.

She was shocked really

by the World Number 123

Bernarda Perera in the second round.

The American took it 6-4,

7-5 to get what's only her second

win in a Grand Slam.

Konta would have hoped for more

as the Number 9 seed,

who has reached the quarters

and the semi finals on her last two

visits to Melbourne -

but maybe the pressure has told

for her she's actually

only won three of her 11

matches since reaching

the Wimbledon semi finals last

July...

It's a bit frustrating. But, also, I

think... I'm still taking good stuff

from this. I'm not... I don't

feel... By any means that it's a

massive catastrophe. Obviously, I

play every event to be there to the

end. So I definitely don't want to

be going home this early. But I

think, in terms of building myself

back up again and playing the way

want to I think I keep moving

forward.

There was a better day for six-time

champion Novak DJokovic who battled

back from a set down in 39 degree

heat to come past Gael Monfils

to reach Round 3.

The Frenchman complained

of dizziness and needed treatment

from the doctor at one point.

Due to the heat.

Temperatures are likely to exceed

40 degrees tomorrow.

When Britain's Kyle Edmund will be

in third round action...

His mum is reminding him to use as

much sun block as possible.

Good mum

pegs we talked a lot about the video

system referee. Some love it but

some are not happy.

Have we seen the

first controversy? Quite possibly.

Yesterday morning we were praising

the video assistant referee system

after that was responsible for

awarding the first goal in English

football but maybe we saw the

negative side last night.

1-1 after 90 minutes the game went

to extra time with Chelsea's Willian

seemingly fouled

in the penalty area.

The referee booked him for diving

and the decision remained no penalty

after being checked.

It meant the tie went all the way

to penalties with Eden Hazard

scoring the decisive spot-kick

at Stamford Bridge but all

the discussion afterwards

was about VAR with Alan Shearer

clearly not a fan.

You can see why I was very doubtful

about it. It is a shambles. Four

former footballers here, Jermaine

Jenas, five. We fear -- we think it

is a clear and obvious penalty and

he looks for diving axeman who on

earth is looking at that screen at

Stockley Park and doesn't think that

is a penalty! -- e-books him for

diving! It is someone else's

opinion, that is why it is a

shambles. -- he books him for

diving!

Well things were a lot clearer

as League One leaders Wigan shocked

Bournemouth of the Premier League

with a comfortable 3-0 win -

they'll take on another top flight

side, West Ham in the fourth round.

In the night's other game

Swansea beat Wolves 2-1.

And you can watch the highlights

of both games on the BBC

Briefly, Ben Stokes is back for

England, the England cricket team

and some people really unhappy about

that?

The ECB has made a choice that has

drawn plenty of criticism...

Ben Stokes as we know was not

considered for England's Ashes Tour

defeat because he was under police

investigation following an incident

outside of a Bristol nightclub back

in September of last year.

But a few days ago, Stokes

was charged with affray but the ECB

have decided to bring him back.

It's likely he'll play in their

series in New Zealand next month.

Former England captain

Nasser Hussain saying

in his newspaper column today that

Stokes should not have been brought

back until his case had ended

and all the details were known.

England's head coach Trevor Bayliss,

has given his view on the situation.

From my point of view it was a Board

decision. They've kept me up to date

pretty much with what is going on. I

am happy with the decision made and

fully understand why it was made. As

I said, with the rest of the players

and Ben himself it is a complex

situation, one that has not been

easy to work through. We are coming

out of the other end of it and

hopefully we can get on with the

cricket.

Ben Stokes says he's

looking forward to being back,

England probably need him, he was

named in the one-day and Twenty20

teams so quality player who will be

back soon. Thank you, Hugh.

back soon. Thank you, Hugh. Hundreds

of people are still congregating in

the so-called Jungle migrant camp in

Cali, hoping to cross to the UK.

Today Theresa May will promise even

more UK money to tackle

the issue when she meets

the French President Emmanuel Macron

at a major summit in London.

In moment we'll discuss

whether the extra money -

£44.5 million, is the answer.

First here is an extract from a film

made by our reporter Catrin Nye

about when she visited the area last

year.

Calais is a darker place

than I have ever seen it.

This is my fifth time

reporting here and it is more

hostile.

More desperate.

Colder, wetter, miserable.

I promise you one thing.

This place will never get finished.

This scrap of land used

to be home to more than

7,000 people.

This is what remains

of The Jungle now.

Not very much.

In October 2016, French

authorities cleared the

camp known as The Jungle.

But people have kept on coming.

Some back from centres

they were dispersed to.

Finding new places to

set up temporary home.

So now The Jungle has

gone, dozens of people

every night are sleeping

between these massive

mounds of industrial waste

in the middle of Calais.

Charities estimate that up to 700

people are here now, many again

pitching tents in

the woods for shelter.

But the police are constantly

pulling these down

because they do not

want new camps here.

So how do you solve

a problem like Calais?

Let's speak to Jean-Paul Mulot,

Permanent Representative to the UK

of the Hauts-de-France region,

which covers Calais.

Tony Smith, Former Head

of the UK Border Force

and Josie Naughton,

Founder of Help Refugees UK.

Welcome to you all. Let's talk about

the extra security measures the

money Britain is giving to France

will pay for, and what you think of.

Extra fencing, extra CCTV, what

difference will it make.

Quite a

lot. We always had money but Vella

two issues. One is immigration and

the other is trade. So what are to

do

do is to protect them, 30 million

tourists travel across the Channel

every year and 40 million trucks. On

the other side there is the migrant

crisis with the security we need to

provide. £50 million sounds a lot,

but I'm just going to give you

figure. At the moment you have the

cost, just to pay them is exactly

that amount, £50 million.

So the

money isn't going to go far.

I know

people always criticise it but...

As

an organisation working on the

ground, us, this seems to be this

batting of responsibility between

the French and the British as to

whose problem it is. I think the

answer is, it is both of their

problem and the response on the

ground, the organisations on the

ground both French and British, this

money going towards security is not

going to solve the problem. What is

needed as asylum process. That goes

for people who will be staying in

France and those coming to the UK

because they have a legal right with

family here, and accommodations are

people and sleeping in the cold in

December, 15-year-old boy who had a

legal right to be with his family in

the UK and wasn't able to have the

right, our team was notified,

nothing was done and he lost his

life.

He was hit by a truck.

By a

car, gas. If money had been spent,

on accommodation to protect

vulnerable people, maybe that would

not have happened.

We all want to

solve this is you, the French

president actually said, when he was

in Calais on Tuesday, but the French

state had helped to organise food

distribution, in the end what is

important is what we do at the end

of the line, what we do in Africa.

of the line, what we do in Africa. I

heard the British government would

give £50 million to help countries

in Berlin also to tackle the issue.

We need to know where they are.

Can

stop them travelling in the first

place. Tony, this extra money

physicality as Jean-Paul says will

be spent on these things, will it

make any difference, it won't stop

migrants wanting to come to Calais.

It won't stop them whether they come

to the UK or not, I think you know

that we did invest in Calais years

ago and it has had an impact and we

do have border Force controls over

their and we've dropped from 80,000

to 30,000 since that investment...

Answers the campus demolished.

So I

think what the French government is

doing is right, they are trying to

process asylum seekers themselves,

putting them into more hospitable

accommodation into other centres,

dispersing them and trying to

process them through their systems.

From our point of view the best

solution is to retain the

agreement...

The agreement whereby

the British border is in France.

Wiggle and juxtaposed controls but

essentially our officers control

immigration in France every day and

the French officials do the same

here. But the best borders in the

world check people and goods before

they cross. And quite often

electronically through data Systems.

That is what we are building with

the French, a vision for the future.

As Jean-Paul says it is hugely

strategically important economically

for both sides. There's a real

opportunity to build our

collaboration with the authorities

and invest together in a structure

that will support us.

I think we

need to remember the number of

displaced people in Europe between

700 and pheasant in Calais at the

moment is a tiny, tiny proportion

sometimes blown out of the water.

And again over £2 million was spent

on a wall, I don't know if it would

cost this amount to spend on

accommodation, do we need a thousand

policemen?

We don't want them!

Is

your argument that if you did not

have the police and the wall there

would be more than 1000 migrants

there?

Probably.

The media is very

powerful and stories current

quickly. There's a

quickly. There's a huge irregular

micro publishing in the EU now. We

are not part of that and a

significant number of those people

have been through the silent system

in the Schengen zone and have been

said they won't go back, and

returning asylum seekers is a hugely

difficult, expensive and emotional

business. So what you need is try to

control the problem at source. Where

are they coming from in the first

place? With the pull factor. If we

let our guard down in Calais you'd

see huge numbers flocking back to

northern France, to the ports, with

the hopes that we would allow

migration through that route. We

want to distinguish legal

want to distinguish legal migration,

it's not really the proper way of

processing people...

The problem is

that at the moment there is no

process. A family can wait nine

months before any proper help is

given to them and in that time they

are sleeping outside in the cold.

What are they supposed to do. Their

youngest child in Calais at the

moment is ten and is terrified of

the police and their brutality.

Does

the French government care about

that child?

that child?

It is true that

massively over the last two years

the French government has invested

in centres and trying to help. It is

not enough. What we need is to

tackle the traffickers. We've seen

on Tuesday, in one area, a young

migrant paid 10,000 pounds to cross.

It is slave trade. We need to tackle

that. When those people are

arrested, it's not enough. They've

got to be condemned.

In the absence

of a safe, legal and when people are

pushed into exploitation, this is

why the solutions needs to be talked

about by both governments, rather

than the problem.

Thank you both for

coming in.

It's that time of the morning

where we bring you up to date

in the trial of former football

coach Barry Bennell.

The court heard yesterday that

ex-Wales captain Gary Speed was one

of four men who went

on to take their own lives after

being coached by Barry Bennell.

Our reporter Jim Reed has

been following the trial

at Liverpool Crown Court.

Yes this is the trial,

as you've said, of Barry Bennell

who was a youth football coach

linked to a number of teams

including Manchester City

and Crewe Alexandra.

He faces 48 charges

of sexual abuse between 1979

and 1991 which he denies.

He's attending the trial by video

link because of ill health.

Yesterday then was day six

of the trial and the jury heard

from a man who Mr Bennell had

admitted abusing back in 1998.

This man spoke about

the impact on his life

and on the lives of others.

He said he knew of former youth

players who had been left

with alcohol problems as a result.

He told the court: "Four

people from teams I have

played with, with Bennell,

have taken their own lives.

Whether they have taken their lives

due to Barry solely I don't know.

But all I know is how it's had

an impact on me and how it

could impact on other people."

One of those four was, he said,

former Wales captain

and manager Gary Speed -

who also played for Leeds,

Newcastle and others.

He very sadly took his own life

six years ago in 2011.

After Gary Speed's death,

the victim said he tried to contact

Gary Speed's parents at the time.

And he was asked about compensation?

That's right.

So this witness says

there was an ongoing civil case

against Manchester City.

But added: "I know personally,

for me, it's about justice."

Earlier in the day the court

also heard from another

victim in the case.

This is someone that Barry Bennell

has admitted one charge against.

This man - now in his 40s -

said he believed people working

for Manchester City knew about abuse

involving Barry Bennell

but did nothing about it.

He named the former chief

scout there, Ken Barnes,

who is now dead, and another man

called Mike Grimsley who he said ran

one of the youth teams.

He said these two people must have

known.

He also said he wanted an apology

from Manchester City.

Again under cross examination he was

asked about claiming compensation.

He said: "If you think I am

going to put myself through this,

talk about being raped

over 100 times?.

For damages, you are wrong."

As I said earlier Mr Bennell denies

48 counts of abuse in this case.

The trial continues today.

Thank you very much. Coming up in

the next half-hour we will talk

about the wild weather that's

causing disruption across parts of

the UK and bring you the latest.

Time for the latest

news - here's Annita.

The BBC News headlines this morning.

Britain is to increase

its contribution towards border

controls in France by nearly

£45 million, and commit

to taking in more migrants.

The deal will be announced

at a summit between Theresa May

and the French President Emmanuel

Macron this afternoon.

Other commitments being unveiled

include the deployment of three RAF

Chinook helicopters to Mali,

where French forces are fighting

Islamic extremists,

and the confirmation that France

will loan Britain

the Bayeux Tapestry.

Taxpayers owe private

companies £199 billion

for schemes set up under

Private Finance Initiatives,

according to the government's

spending watchdog.

The National Audit office found 716

deals were currently

operational under PFI

and its successor, PF2,

with annual costs amounting

to more than £10 billion.

The government says both schemes

improved public services.

The report was written before

the collapse of Carillion,

which held a number of contracts,

including some under PFI schemes.

Heavy snow fall is continuing

to cause problems in parts

of Scotland and northern England,

with drivers warned to proceed

with "extreme caution"

while on the roads.

While travel warnings have been

downgraded, police say

there is still the likelihood

of disruption and delays.

Elsewhere, severe gales

and heavy rain are affecting

other parts of the UK.

Scottish Borders Council has closed

all schools. Trees have all that

there are power outages.

Some areas reported gusts of up

to 70 miles per hour.

There are calls for all women over

the age of 30 to be screened

for a faulty gene linked to higher

rates of breast and ovarian cancer.

Research by the Barts Cancer

Institute in London found testing

would prevent thousands of cancers,

and be cost-effective for the NHS.

Patient safety in Accident

and Emergency Units in Wales

is being compromised

to an "unacceptable degree"

according to hospital consultants.

A group of 46 doctors is warning

of the risks in a letter sent

to the First Minister.

Monthly performance figures will be

published later this morning.

NHS Wales say it's been

a very challenging winter,

but things are starting to improve.

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

Here's some sport now with Hugh.

Good morning.

There was a disappointing defeat

for British number One Johanna Konta

at the Australian Open.

The number nine seed was shocked

in the second round,

beaten by the World Number 123

Bernarda Pera in straight sets.

Konta said afterwards it's not

a massive catastrophe.

The new Video Assistant Referee

system caused it's first strong

debate last night with the former

England captain calling it

calling it a shambles -

after Chelsea were not awarded

a penalty in their FA Cup third

round win over Norwich.

The shock of the night in the FA Cup

though came at Wigan

where the League One side knocked

out Premier League Bournemouth

beating them 3-0.

Elsewhere, Swansea beat Wolves.

And defending champions England have

named their Six Nations squad

for their first match against Italy.

Eight uncapped players

are named including

Northampton's Harry Mallinder.

More sport after 10am.

Thank you.

Let's talk about the wild weather.

Severe gales have been causing

disruption to much of the UK

and police in several areas

including East Anglia

and Gloucestershire have reported

fallen trees on or near main roads.

Bridges are closed, trees are down.

Thousands of homes are without power

in Essex.

In Scotland, drivers

were warned overnight to use

extreme caution on the roads due

to heavy snow.

And in Dumfries and Galloway,

the A75 was closed between Dumfries

and Gatehouse of Fleet

because of a number

of jackknifed lorries.

Let's talk to various people around

the country.

Our correspondents Fiona Trott

are in Penrith and Abington

Rebecca Manning joins us

from her home in South West London.

Believe it or not a tree fell over

there and caused some damage.

Stein Connelly is Operation Manager

at Traffic Scotland.

Fiona, tell us about the area where

you are.

The A66 is closed eastbound

near broth, not surprising, lots of

snow over higher ground, 38

centimetres, that's just south.

Opens on the A19 between Hartlepool

and Durham. 18 miles of tailbacks

this morning because of snow. It's

not just snow, winds are causing

problems down the south-east this

morning. Costs of over 80 mph in

Norfolk. We are hearing thousands of

homes without power in Suffolk, East

Anglia and Cambridgeshire, three --

3000 without power. Fallen trees in

Norfolk and Cambridgeshire and

Lincolnshire causing some of those

power cuts we heard about. In double

show, Norfolk, Surrey and

Gloucestershire. Because of the

strong winds, the trains, problems

in Suffolk, or one railway line is

blocked and delays to and from

Manchester, Piccadilly and

Birmingham new street. The latest on

the weather warnings, yellow winter

warning for England and Wales. In

northern England, yellow snow and

ice warning until 11am.

Thank you.

It's not often you get a do not

travel warning, but that is what

happened for drivers across parts in

Scotland last night?

There was a

really serious warning issued by the

police. In effect, saying, keep your

cars at home. I have to say, this

morning, it's very white here. About

one foot of snow by the side of the

motorway that it is not so wild and

crucially, the M74, the main link

road down the west side of the

country, between Scotland and

England, is running clearly. It

really does seem as if drivers

needed that warning to stay at home.

Overnight, what you saw on this

stretch of motorway was a fleet of

gritters going up and down making

sure it stayed clear. What they

really wanted to avoid was a repeat

of those scenes on Tuesday night

where hundreds of drivers were left

stranded for hours overnight after

jackknifed lorries slowed the

traffic. Cars struggled on the

inclines and the whole system ground

to a halt. Conditions are still a

bit tricky today. The Met office has

downgraded it to an amber weather

warning. But drivers are still being

urged to take caution. Some of the

more minor roads are still extremely

difficult in places. Interestingly,

though, Scotland's transport

Minister has announced that there is

a review of this morning's system --

this warning system, to start using

normal language instead of the

jargon.

Thank you, let's use normal

language with Steve. Operation

manager at Traffic Scotland. Drivers

were a lot more sensible last night

and the other night, weren't they?

Very much so. We were trying to put

out the message when the police were

saying avoid road travel, we will

put in that message out all of

yesterday so that people heeded the

warning and it allowed us to get

gritters in your previous

interviewee said they had seen

fleets of gritters on the M74. We

kept that clear and open for the

morning peak this morning.

What is

the advice for the rest of the day

to motorists? I can see the roads

behind you are clear, pretty much

back to normal?

You can still see

that there is a lot of snow. We are

still on a yellow warning for snow

and ice. The Met office are working

with us here in the Traffic Scotland

response centre. We will continue to

do that until we think it is safe to

step down. Last night, we had 154

gritters out, they are still out.

They are monitoring and patrolling

the roads, dealing with any issues

that we have. We will continue to do

that until we think it is time to

step down.

Thank you. Rebecca

joining us from her home in

south-west London, people mock when

people who live in London complain

about the weather that something

dramatic did happen last night

because of the wind?

I got up for

work as usual to get ready. And I

heard the wind outside. I thought

somebody was trying to break into

the house. I walked into the living

room and no one was there. I walked

over to where the window was broken.

A Christmas tree had been blown into

my window and broke it.

Is this

camera on your laptop or is it your

phone? Can you show us? INTERFERENCE

pin you can see where I have taped

it up. Right.

That is proof that the winds in the

south-east were as strong as people

thought when they were woken up in

the middle of the night.

It was

really bad.

Thank you for talking to

us. Rebecca, Steve, Lorna, Fiona,

thank you. Thank you for your

messages on the migrant camp in

Calais. Carroll will be here with

the full weather forecast just

before 10am.

Coming up:

Is it a breach of their human

rights for athletes

to have to keep anti-doping

officials informed

of their whereabouts

so they can be drug tested?

A court is ruling on that shortly -

we'll have the latest.

Some of the country's most

senior police officers,

barristers and prosecutors

are meeting this morning to discuss

ways to address problems caused

by the non-disclosure of evidence.

The high-level meeting will be

chaired by the Director

of Public Prosecutions in England

and Wales, Alison Saunders.

It comes after a third rape case

in just over a month collapsed

after it emerged images

from the defendant's phone

showing him cuddling the alleged

victim were not disclosed.

We will talk to Batman's lawyer in

just a moment. -- that man's lawyer.

This comes after the trial

of Liam Allan was abandoned after it

emerged officers had failed

to disclose vital evidence which

undermined the prosecution

case against him.

This included phone messages

where his accuser had

pestered him for sex.

He appeared on our programme

after being cleared in court.

There is relief on one side,

in terms of the case is over.

As in, I'm not the suspect,

I'm not standing trial more.

There is relief there.

With the publicity,,

it has been huge.

It is a different kind

of stress in terms of

that now.

And it is still another battle

to go through in terms of

compensation.

And sueing.

It is not over completely.

I'm just not the one

standing trial any more.

What do you think would be

adequate compensation

from what you have insured?

I wouldn't know.

I said at the time that

university is supposed to be

the best times of your life.

The last two years I have

just spent worrying

and not concentrating

on

anything.

It has ripped apart by normal

personal life and now that

it has come to light,

it is still going on.

The longer we have to wait,

in terms of going for compensation

and things like that,

the more stress it still is.

Because I'm still away from uni and

my normal life.

According to your solicitor,

there could be other

cases and other miscarriages

of justice, people in

jail right now where

evidence that could have

proved their innocence has not been

disclosed.

I think, yet...

They can't really stop

false accusations

because people do

have a spiteful side.

When people are hurt they react

in a way you wouldn't really expect.

We rely on the procedure

to find the right

sort of things.

As far as I am aware,

and I have been through it, I

am not the only one.

There are people going through it

right now.

With me now is Paris Theodorou,

he's a lawyer who defended

Samson Makele, who was charged

with rape 18 months ago.

But this week the case against him

collapsed when his legal team found

photos of him and his alleged victim

cuddling in bed.

Tell our audience about this case,

first of all.

Samson Makele was

accused of rain, originally arrested

18 months ago, bailed and his phone

was seized. As a result of his phone

being seized, his telephone was

downloaded. Later on it suffice that

the downloads didn't include

pictures, which later came to light.

Presumably your client was telling

you, I know there are pictures on my

phone.

He did.

How come they weren't

disclosed by the police?

disclosed by the police?

There was a

download allegedly committed by the

offices in the case but we don't

know why they were not provided to

us. Thankfully we were able to

obtain the phone ourselves.

It could

be technical incompetence that the

download didn't happen properly or

fully.

It could be.

Or it could be

something more sinister, the

download happened and the

photographs were kept back because

there would undermine the

prosecution case.

I am not

suggesting anything sinister

happened. But I think there has been

a technical failing.

Right. You

managed to get the phone.

I did.

What did you do differently?

I did

my own download with my own experts.

Thankfully we found the images.

Samson Makele is from Eritrea, he

doesn't speak the best English.

Thankfully we were able to

facilitate a proper interview with

him and obtain all of the

information.

But this has been going

on for 18 months.

It has.

Had the

photos emerged much earlier this

case would clearly... He may never

have been charged in the first

place.

I don't want to talk about

hypotheticals, it could have been

the case that this evidence or the

telephone could have gone missing

and he could been convicted of an

offence where crucial evidence could

have been available to the court. He

could have had a fair trial.

Alison

Saunders is having a high-level

meeting today, the Director of

Public Prosecutions for England and

Wales, this is what she said on

Radio 4 this morning.

If you have a

case where people have briefly

manage other, there is nothing that

says there will be photographs. The

police obligation is to pursue all

reasonable lines of enquiry. That

doesn't mean going into every single

avenue of your life. They would look

to see if there was contact, text

messages, which they did and which

we looked at and we served. But they

did not know what else was on the

phone.

Did they even look at it?

The

download, I think, was not complete.

Certainly, the prosecutors had no

idea there were photographs.

Forgive

me for interrupting but in a way,

that seems a glaring omission right

from the start. They didn't even

think, "We must look at photographs

or social media".

We don't look into

every single aspect of everybody's

life, there has to be a proportional

response.

But even a glancing blow,

even notice that it wasn't there,

why wasn't it?

This is where there

is a complete systemic issue. What

should have happened is that it

should have happened much earlier.

It was an 18 month process that he

was under investigation and his name

was out there. That is one of the

things we are looking at today with

everyone, how do we make all of this

happen more effectively and at an

earlier stage? So you don't have

suspect is going through this

process, you don't have complain is

going through this process.

His life

was ruined because of that procedure

going wrong.

I understand this. It

is really important that we get it

right across the system. I am not

for one moment saying we couldn't

have done better in that case, that

it couldn't have been dealt with

earlier.

How do you respond to that.

I think

it is good that the CPS are

expecting some responsibility for

the failures and it is good that

they will be full disclosure.

Let me

bring in Jerry Hayes, the

prosecuting lawyer who helped to

clear Liam Allan, the man that he

was prosecuting. Mr Hayes, how do

you react to this meeting, what

needs to happen?

Very good news

indeed. This problem has been

bedevilling the courts for a long

time. Thank heavens it is now in the

open. Two things need to be done and

are relatively simple. First the

police have to be retrained and

understand their duties of

disclosure. Secondly they must be

told that it is

not for them to decide what is

relevant, it is for the Crown

prosecution lawyer to decide. The

next thing that has to happen is

that the CPS have to be properly

resourced. They have to have the

people, the equipment, and the money

to sift through sometimes mountains

of evidence which comes from social

media. They can't take another round

of cuts.

It sounds as if you are

saying that you don't believe that

police and prosecutors on occasion

deliberately withheld evidence

because it would undermine their

case.

No, I have never seen any

evidence of that and I prosecute and

I defend. What has happened is that

there has been a systemic and

cultural problem within the police.

They seem to think their job is just

too but the case. It is not. They

need to look at the evidence, to

record it, to retain it, and reveal

it.

In the case of Liam Allan police

told his defence team that some of

the text messages the complainant

had sent to friends were not

relevant to the trial.

That is what

they told me, not the defence.

Absolutely. And I ask questions...

That isn't about a lack of training,

Jerry Hayes, was it?

I thought this

was a particularly appalling case.

It is not widespread. But if you

have the systems in place, there is

an act of Parliament that list and

the things that the police should do

and we must make sure they do it. It

was a police officer who told me, I

wasn't aware of this disc and I

said, can you show me there's

nothing here that can assist the

defence and undermine the

prosecution case? He said there

wasn't and I wasn't happy and in

court I said this must be served so

we can go through it. We found the

stuff which quite properly cleared

Liam.

Hollande are you about other

cases that have collapsed, others

might say this is a good thing,

because of late disclosure of

evidence?

That has been fairly

common. The CPS doesn't have the

resources. The rape and serious

offences unit of 130 cases each,

they need more lawyers, more

paralegals, more money. The

Chancellor is threatening another

round of cuts to the CPS. This would

be disastrous for everyone. Accent

today is a good day, something that

has been bedevilling us four years

is now out in the open and something

is being done about it.

Thank you

very much Jerry Hayes, and Paris,

thank you. Let me read some messages

we have received about the migrant

camp in Calais. We began the problem

today with this story because of

this high-level summit between the

Prime Minister and the French

president today. Britain is giving

France £44.5 million to boost

security at Calais to stop a camp

building up again. Philip says in a

text, we must have control of our

borders and not let the French

president dictate to the UK how many

migrants retaken. Lynn says what

happens to failed applications,

those who apply from Calais, where

did they go. Do they wed there,

hoping to find another way into the

UK? Not a nice environment to live

in while they are waiting. Johnny

says the charity workers need to be

held to account for adding to the

problem. John says, enough of the

refugees, we must look after our own

people first. More of those to come.

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Athletes in France have in the last

half-hour lost a legal challenge

to drug testing rules.

They argued that strict rules

which require competitors

to disclose their whereabouts

for one hour every day are

an a breach of their human rights.

The European Court of Human Rights

disagreed. It found this would

increase the dangers of doping in

sport.

Let's talk now with Toni

Minichiello, trainer of Olympic

champion Jess Ennis-Hill,

Jo Pavey MBE the British

long distance runner,

Craig Maclean MBE Olympic

cyclist silver medallist.

Ellis Cashmore,

professor of Sociology

at Aston University.

Liam -- Toni, how do you respond to

this.

And is a good ruling. Common

sense has been delivered by the

European Court of Human Rights.

Explain this principle of

notification of your whereabouts?

You have to give you when about

three months in advance so you put

down in three-month blocks, you

basically say where you are going to

be, you have to be available for one

hour and say where that should be

way you will be for one hour. The

time starts at 5am and up to 11

o'clock at night. You pick one hour

out of that period and say where you

will be. Invariably a lot of people

give their home address at an early

time, let's say 7am, or their

training venue. If you put that in

in three-month blogs, you can always

come back to it on a daily basis and

alter it, should your plans change.

Some French athletes were arguing

that this God in the way of their

family life, to such an extent that

it was too much of a burden.

It can

be awkward. I would not say it is a

burden. I say, if situations change

for example if you have a dental

appointment and needs to leave the

house earlier, as long as you can

send a text or an e-mail you can

change where your whereabouts will

be at any time during that day. It

can be a bit awkward. It's up to you

to remember but once you start doing

it it is easy enough to do.

Some

athletes talk about having to have

made sacrifices to stick to this

rule.

rule. I would have to understand

those sacrifices, I worked with an

athlete and she made sure she was

available for one hour every day

including her wedding day! It is

easily done.

Was that Jessica Ennis

Hill?

It might have been! On her

wedding day she had to tell the

doping officials where she would be

for one hour. Presumably at home

getting ready for the wedding?

Yes,

that could have been awkward! In the

same situation when she was pregnant

with her first child she was still

competing. And babies don't stick to

schedules. You have to give one hour

for you are going to be and should

the situation change you make

provision that someone can access

the system, should your whereabouts

change. It's easy enough to handle.

Craig MacLean is an Olympic silver

medallist, apologies are introducing

you as some are different! Thank you

for talking to us. How do you react

to this ruling that it is not a

breach of the human rights of French

athletes to have to tell anti-doping

officials where they offer one hour

a day?

I think all athletes will

sigh with relief. Common sense has

prevailed. If they had won the case

the impact could have been massive,

I guess, in terms of how we go about

the sports of it is good.

Tell us

about the impact on some IQ of this

rule where you have to give notice

of your whereabouts, as it is

officially called, and also try to

live your life. -- on somebody like

you.

As Toni says it isn't a burden,

it is something you accept. When you

first become an athlete at first you

don't appreciate this maybe but when

you go full sign up to any sport

programme you're accepted as part of

your life.

your life. Most of the time you

forget about it. -- you accept it as

part of your life. It is not a big

deal.

And the reason it works is

because it can act as a deterrent

because you know that someone can

turn up at any moment at the point

that you have said you would be in a

particular place?

I guess to any

honest athlete it is just a gentle

reminder to be aware if you are

taking a supplement, whether it is

for a cold or a cough or something

like that, you have to think twice

about these things. It is quite

nice. I am sure that people out

there who are hell-bent on doping

and will find a way around the

system unfortunately.

Let me bring

in Ellis, how do you react to the

ruling?

I'm sorry, Victoria, what is

the question?

I apologise. The

French athletes have lost their

case, the European Court of Human

Rights says it is not a bridge of

human rights to have to tell

anti-doping officials where they

offer one hour a day. I was just

asking for your reaction.

It was a

predictable outcome. There's not

much else that organisations charged

with the responsibility of policing

doping can do. Because the athletes

have made it clear that they will

take dope, whatever the punishments

may be and although we talk about

deterrence I don't think there are

that many deterrents. They are

taking dope basically not because

they want to get an advantage but

because they look around them at all

the other athletes and presumed that

they are taking dope as well. This

is the only way they can get a level

playing field.

World Anti-Doping

Agency has become stricter over the

years simply because it has two and

is turning sport into a surveillance

culture. But they have no genuine

alternative. This is now a spiral

and it's not one that can be

interrupted, it will simply go on

and on. You are right that there

will always be cheats but you're

generalising, are you not, the

majority of athletes are clean,

aren't they?

Nobody can actually say

if they are or not. Simply because

doping is going on in this kind of

stand such at the moment. Athletes

are taking unknown substances in

unknown quantities and getting them

from who knows where. It's an unsafe

environment. We have to think about

how after 45 years of anti-doping

policy in sport, we have to think

about whether this is a doomed

experiment. We have to evaluate

whether anti-doping is legitimate

because it cannot succeed. I think

we have rented sport and save and I

think we have to -- we have rented

sport unsafe. We have to ask if it

would be safer if we allowed doping

in sport and just said to athletes

we want to monitor what you are

taking so we can do research and

advise on whether this is a safe

substance.

Craig, what do you say to

Ellis's proposal?

I would like to

believe, as a clean athlete that the

majority of athletes are clean.

There are probably one or two up to

no good. But if you want to compete

you believe it is possible to do it

clean. I think it's a bit of a

flippant reaction.

Thank you

gentlemen, thank you very much.

Thank you for coming on the

programme. The latest news and sport

in a moment.

Also coming up:

A special report about the strict

abortion laws in El Savador

and the story of one teenager

who says she's been

sentenced for murder

after suffering a miscarriage.

Let's get the latest weather update.

Let's get the latest weather update.

I welcome a good morning! What might

run the country. But today for some

it will be a reasonable day with a

lot of sunshine, for others the snow

will go on. Let's deal with the snow

from last might. Up to seven inches

in parts of northern England which

led to a few problems, six inches of

snow in some areas, there are still

some ongoing problems on the roads,

for others it was the strength of

the wind bringing down the auditory,

the strongest of the gusts here and

there, 80 miles an hour, we saw

winds of 60-70 miles an hour which

has caused issues. The fund which

brought this has now moved into the

Netherlands and they have winds of

mighty mouse per hour, back to

square one, with a mixture of sleet

and snow for some, further south,

heavy showers with thunder, bit of

sleet on higher ground and some

hail. Many across the South and east

will get away with a predominately

dry day. The bees is lighter than it

was for many but it's still enough

to have an impact on the way things

feel, subzero across parts of

Scotland, Northern Ireland and

northern England. To light showers

keep going over north-west Scotland

and northern England, a bit more

than last might have some areas of

the show was coming on the breeze.

Further south, clearer skies with a

greater chance of frost and with

temperatures widely below freezing,

showers and a risk of ice. It could

be a slippery start to Friday

morning. Driest and brightest across

parts of England and Wales, show was

get going once more quite widely

across the country, Northern Ireland

and northern England, a further

covering of snow in places. These

will feel much colder when you

factor in the wind. Into the weekend

the winds will ease, still a

north-westerly to get into

Saturday's sale a cold night with a

sharp frost, notice whether funds

towards the south which will bring a

cloudy start across the South on

Saturday, patchy rain which will

gradually ease, many will have a dry

afternoon, sunny conditions the

further north you are after that

frosty stop. On Saturday night into

Sunday another push of rain coming

from the south-west which will

affect more of us, wet state

preceded by snow of the Scottish

mountains, the house to egg hills of

northern England, that temperatures

will be on the rise, turning back to

rain and next week should look much

milder than the week just gone.

Hello it's Thursday, it's 10am,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

Welcome to the programme.

Cash for Calais, Britain

will provide an extra

£44.5 million to improve border

controls in France.

That's one of the announcements

expected when Theresa May meets

French President Emmanuel

Macron later today.

One of the announcement is expected

when Theresa May meets the

it's quite clear from the British,'s

perspective that they think the best

route to getting a good deal on

Brexit is to bypass the European

Commission and to get individual

countries sympathetic, on board with

Britain. We have all the details.

Also this morning -

we have a special report

from El Salvador where women accused

of having an abortion can be locked

up for 30 years.

The majority of them of have nothing

to do with abortion.

They are in fact stillbirths or

miscarriages.

And you'd be hardpressed to find

somebody who thinks women should go

to prison for having a miscarriage.

We'll bring you that full

report after 10:30am.

Researchers say testing all women

over the age of 30 for the gene

mutations which cause breast

and ovarian cancers

could save 12,000 lives.

We will bring you the details.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news.

Britain is to increase

its contribution towards border

controls in France by nearly

£45 million, and commit

to taking in more migrants.

The deal will be

announced at a summit

between Theresa May

and the French President Emmanuel

Macron this afternoon.

Other commitments being unveiled

include the deployment of three RAF

Chinook helicopters to Mali,

where French forces are fighting

Islamic extremists,

and the confirmation that France

will loan Britain

the Bayeux Tapestry.

Taxpayers owe private

companies £199 billion

for schemes set up under

Private Finance Initiatives,

according to the government's

spending watchdog.

The National Audit office found 716

deals were currently

operational under PFI

and its successor, PF2,

with annual costs amounting

to more than £10 billion.

The government says both schemes

improved public services.

The report was written before

the collapse of Carillion,

which held a number of contracts,

including some under PFI schemes.

Heavy snow fall is continuing

to cause problems in parts

of Scotland and northern England,

with drivers warned to proceed

with "extreme caution"

while on the roads.

While travel warnings have been

downgraded police say

there is still the likelihood

of disruption and delays.

Scottish Borders Council

has closed all schools.

Elsewhere, severe gales

are affecting other parts of the UK,

causing trees to fall down

and power outages.

Some areas reported gusts of up

to 70 miles per hour.

The European Court of Human Rights

is due to rule in the case of 100

leading athletes challenging

a requirement for them to advise

anti-doping officials of their

whereabouts at all times.

The group claims the

regime violates their

privacy and is contrary

to their freedom of movement.

It disagreed unanimously. It found

that removing the requirement could

lead to an increase in doping.

There are calls for all women over

the age of 30 to be screened

for a faulty gene linked to higher

rates of breast and ovarian cancer.

Research by the Barts Cancer

Institute in London found testing

would prevent thousands of cancers,

and be cost-effective for the NHS.

Patient safety in Accident

and Emergency Units in Wales

is being compromised

to an "unacceptable degree"

according to hospital consultants.

Figures show that 78.9% of patients

spend less than 48 hours in

emergency care facilities in

December, the lowest performance

since March 2000 and 16. NHS Wales

says it's been a very challenging

winter but that things are starting

to improve. -- since 2016.

Lifeguard in Australia have used

drone technology to save swimmers.

It is the first rescue. It was used

to locate two men who had been seen

struggling in three metre high

swells in New South Wales. A rescue

pod was dropped into the water which

expanded allowing both swimmers to

grab it and help them stay afloat.

The drone took just over one minute

to reach the swimmers compared to

six minutes for a lifeguard.

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