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Hello it's Friday, it's 9am,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

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welcome to the programme.

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US president Donald Trump says he's

prepared to say sorry for retweeting

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posts from the far-right group

Britain First.

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If you're telling me these are

horrible people, horrible, racist

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people, I would certainly apologise

if you'd like me to do that.

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I know nothing about them.

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He was speaking to

ITV's Piers Morgan.

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We'll bring you more

of what he said shortly.

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Bradley Larry was just six when he

died of cancer but made a huge

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impression on those who met him and

many of those who didn't. We will

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speak to his mother and star striker

who became his best friend, Jermain

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Defoe.

People, to him on the streets

and shake his hand, it's amazing the

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awareness and support from the

nation. Like nothing you've ever

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seen before. This little bread,

everyone loved him, his character,

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that little smile, he was really

special.

That interview at 9:15am.

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Also this morning.

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Fighting over chocolate spread?

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The Nutella promotion in French

supermarkets which left

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some shoppers injured.

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We will bring you the story.

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Good morning and welcome to the

programme, it's Friday, we live

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until 11am. Loss to talk about this

morning with you, including the fact

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that five male BBC presenters

including Jeremy Vine and Huw

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Edwards have agreed formally, or in

principle, to pay cut after the row

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over unequal pay between some men

and women doing the same kind of

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jobs.

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Also - we're going to talk

about the extraordinary warning

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from the Defence Secretary who says

that Russia could cause thoussands

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and thousands and thousands

of deaths in Britian.

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That's in an interview

with the Daily Telgrpah.

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Meanwhile, he's told the Daily Mail

about a 'dreadful mistake' he made

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in his personal life -

where he had a brief office romance

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with a fellow worker back in 2004.

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He said having to explain to his

wife what had happened was one of

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the most difficult things he had

ever done. Kevin Williams is touted

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as a potential future leader.

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Our economics editor Kamal Ahmed has

been following this from Davos

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where the President is.

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It comes as Mr Trump is set to set

up what his America first stance

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means for global trade when he

addresses the World Economic Forum

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in Davos later. Speaking to ITV's

good morning Britain the President

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said he knew nothing about the group

before Cheryl Miss Biddy is. He had

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been criticised by Theresa May for

his actions. Asked to apologise over

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the tweet he said he believes in the

fight against Islamist terror.

It

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was done because I am a big believer

in fighting radical Islamic terror.

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This was a depiction of radical

Islamic terror.

These were

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unverified pictures, at least one of

them.

I didn't do it, I didn't go

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out, I did a retweet. It was a big

story where you are but not a big

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story where I am so you're telling

me something.

I want people in

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Britain to get to the real you.

The

real me is somebody who loves

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Britain, loves the UK, I love

Scotland. One of the biggest

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problems I have in winning is I

won't be able to get back there so

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often. I would love to go there. As

you know, before this happened, I

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would be there a lot. Very special

people and a very special place. I

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don't want to cause any difficulty

for your country, that I can tell

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you.

Can I get an apology out of you

for the retweets? I think it would

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go a long way.

Here is what's fair,

if you are telling me these are

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horrible people, horrible, racist

people, I would certainly apologise

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if you would like me to. I know

nothing about them.

You would

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disavow yourself of people like

that?

I don't want to be involved

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with people... You're telling me

about these people because I know

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nothing about them.

Donald Trump

speaking in Davos which is where our

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economics editor, Ahmed is. It is a

big day for everybody because Donald

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Trump is going to address everyone.

Absolutely. This is the first

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serving US President to come to the

World Economic Forum since Bill

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Clinton in 2000. There is a high

degree of fascination with the

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arrival of Mr Trump. Of course, for

many people here they have never

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seen the President in the flesh,

just heard what he has said on his

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Twitter feed, or on media

interviews. The big question is

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going to be, is he going to be

conciliatory? He's going to talk

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about America first and invest in

America but what about the issues of

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protectionism, the tariff barriers

he has put on things like washing

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machines and solar panels? Most

people here expect, and

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interestingly in the interview with

Piers Morgan, it was a slightly more

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conciliatory approach, a slightly

softer tone from him because the

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mood here actually is pretty

optimistic, not just about America

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and the reforms there that have

boosted the economy but all of the

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economies around the world which are

starting to really motor for the

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first time since the financial

crisis. It will be fascinating to

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see what he will say. The big thing,

though, is he has actually come

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here. This is the heart of the

global elites, the type of people

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people thought President Trump was

against. It just shows, I think,

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Victoria, there is lots of rhetoric

and lots of anger, but when it comes

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to the economy there are some brutal

truths. You need to trade with each

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other for global prosperity to

create jobs, and I think Donald

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Trump pretty much understands that.

Thank you, Kamal Ahmed, live from

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Davos, and more and Donald Trump's

speech as he delivers it to all of

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the global elite, as we are calling

them, later on BBC News. Here is the

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rest of the morning's news with

Anita.

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Several of the BBC's leading male

news presenters and journalists have

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agreed to take salary cuts,

following revelations about gender

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pay inequality at the Corporation.

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The move comes after Carrie Gracie

resigned as the BBC's China Editor,

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saying men and women doing similar

jobs were not paid the same.

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An independent report on the issue

is due to be published next week,

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as our media editor,

Amol Rajan, reports.

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Hey, Chris.

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How do you feel about BBC talent

salaries being published?

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The publication last year of the pay

for the BBC's on-air talent earning

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over £150,000 prompted a huge

outcry, both because the top

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of the list was dominated by men,

and because many men appeared to be

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getting more money for doing

the same job as women,

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though individual

circumstances varied hugely.

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Earlier this month, Carrie Gracie

resigned her post as China editor

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in protest, saying she

would return to London.

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Now, her colleagues,

Jon Sopel, John Humphrys,

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Hugh Edwards, and Jeremy Vine,

have all agreed either

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formally or in principle

to have their salaries reduced.

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Ms Gracie is due to appear before

a Select Committee of MPs next

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Wednesday shortly before

the Director-General,

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his deputy, and the Director of News

and Current Affairs also appear.

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Whereas competition

in the entertainment industry has

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intensified, the opposite

has happened in news.

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Many of those now taking paycuts

secured generous deals years ago.

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That world has disappeared,

and these presenters now accept that

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a chunk of their salaries will have

to disappear with it.

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Amol Rajan, BBC News.

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Downing Street has distanced

itself from comments

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made by the Chancellor,

Philip Hammond, after he said any

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future change to the UK's relations

with the EU could be "very modest".

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His remarks - during a speech

at the World Economic Forum -

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were seized upon by Tory Leave

campaigners, and criticised

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by a number of cabinet ministers.

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Today, the Brexit Secretary,

David Davis, will give details

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of the Government's plans

for the transition phase after

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the UK leaves the EU next year.

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The Labour peer, Lord Mendelsohn,

has been sacked from his party's

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front bench for attending

the controversial Presidents Club

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charity fundraising event,

where women working as hostesses

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were reportedly groped.

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A Labour spokesman said

there could be no excuse

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for anyone's attendance,

and Jeremy Corbyn had

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asked him to step down.

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Lord Mendelsohn said he went

to the event as president

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of a charity that received support

from it, but did not witness any

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of the alleged incidents,

which he condemned as "appalling".

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A fire at a hospital in South Korea

has killed more than 40 people.

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The blaze is reported to have

continued for several hours

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after breaking out in the emergency

room of the building

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in the southern city of Milyang.

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Last month, 29 people died in a fire

at a fitness centre South Korea.

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The Defence Secretary has

accused Russia of spying

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on Britain's energy networks,

which he said could lead to chaos

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in the country if supplies were hit.

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Gavin Williamson told

the Daily Telegraph that crippling

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the UK's infrastructure might cause

"thousands of deaths".

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Mr Williamson said Russia

was the biggest threat facing

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the country at the moment.

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The NHS medicines watchdog has

issued new guidelines on how best to

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treat sore throats in order to cut

the use of antibiotics. The

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guidelines from the National

Institute for health and care

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excellence, Nice, says most sore

throats can be treated with

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paracetamol.

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The RAC says it has seen

a "concerning rise" in the number

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of drivers breaking down

after hitting potholes.

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The organisation said there had been

an 11% increase in call-outs

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caused by poor quality roads

in the last three months of 2017.

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The Government says

it's spending billions

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on improving road journeys.

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Perhaps we should say cars breaking

down rather than drivers.

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Violent scenes broke out

across France yesterday -

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but the cause is not

what you might expect.

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A French supermarket chain

started offering a 70%

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discount on Nutella,

bringing the price down

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to just 1.40 euros.

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In one shop, the police had to be

called when people began

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fighting over the offer.

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All the stock had gone in 15

minutes - one customer

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left with a black eye.

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Probably more than they bargained

for.

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That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30am.

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Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning -

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use the hashtag Victorialive.

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And if you text, you will be charged

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A couple of comments about the BBC

male presenters who have agreed

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formally or in visible to take a pay

cut including Jeremy Vine and Huw

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Edwards. Loston on Twitter Colon

fair enough of them but I will not

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approve of increases for any other

people love fight says: this gender

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stuff is all one-sided, although

they didn't say stuff, they used a

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more rude word. More and more

companies seem to be making women

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CEOs, not because they are any good

but to take ridiculous box. J Hind

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is says: Chouly women's wages need

to go up, valued the job at the

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level it deserves. And Helena says:

surely that wasn't the point, the

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men taking less. It was about your

employer the BBC paying you equally

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for doing the same work. Send me a

message. Facebook and WhatsApp.

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Let's get some sport now with Hugh -

and it wasn't to be for Kyle Edmund

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Which we talked about yesterday, but

Roger Federer fans will be most

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people's favourite now and he on

court at the moment at the

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Australian Open. A bit like

Wimbledon, when the British hopes

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are out we turn our hopes to Roger.

The incredible run for Kyle Edmund

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is over but didn't he do himself

justice. We almost forgot Andy

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Murray wasn't there. Edmund was

beaten by Marin Cilic after making

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the semifinals but will move into

the world's top 30 players so he

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could be seeded come Wimbledon this

summer and will also overtake Murray

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who is out injured at the moment as

the British number one, but the man

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all players at the moment are aiming

to overtake, to stall the great

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Roger Federer, facing another man

who surprised everyone at the

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Australian Open, 21-year-old Hyung

Chung from South Korea, Federer is

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defending his title, and 19 Grand

Slam is, it has not taken long to

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take control of the match. Five-time

winner in Australia, he won the

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first set 6-1 and already leads 1-0

in the second, so it could be a

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long, or maybe a pretty short day

for Hyung Chung in the Australian

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Open.

Cricket and a pretty amazing start

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to England's latest match, tell us

more.

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Amazing for the Australians,

unfortunately. England going pretty

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well in their one-day series, they

have already won, leading 3-0 going

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into the fourth match but couldn't

have had a worse start, there were

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put into bat and lost their first

five wickets for just eight runs,

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although they managed to post a

respectable score in the end of 196

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all out, helped mainly by Chris

Woakes but as you would expect

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Australia well on the way to chasing

things down easily in reply. They

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are 120-4 in Adelaide. Maybe it's

not the win England and their

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captain Eoin Morgan would have hoped

for today. We will keep you updated

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on that throughout the morning.

And FA Cup time, Yeovil hoping that

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there will be an incredible upset

against Manchester United tonight.

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Another big night for Yeovil town

and the FA Cup, they hosted Man

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United a couple of years ago but the

stars again will be going to Hewitt

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Park, the League 2 side, the lowest

team left in the competition. After

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united signed Alexis Sanchez earlier

in the week Yeovil tweeted it and in

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only right he starts his career with

the biggest club in the world at

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what is maybe the biggest away

changing room in League 2. Tongue in

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cheek from them, could be a tight

squeeze for Jose Mourinho and his

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players but it is a poignant evening

for Yeovil Mourinho's opposite

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number, Darrell Wade, because he's

lucky to have survived a car crash

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in nine years ago which left him

unable to walk. He has had 29

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operations to aid his recovery and

he spoken to Football Focus's Mark

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Clemmit.

I've been at a stage where

it was life or death so I know what

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that feels like. It has helped me

deal with football management and

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made me more resilient and more

determined, and I wake up with a

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willpower to succeed.

Did you think

you were going to die?

Yes, scary

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feeling, that's for sure. I was at

the lowest point in my life and Sir

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Alex brought Man United to play at

my testimonial, so I'm appreciative

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of what Man United has done. Now to

be manager and against all odds to

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get into this position is what

dreams are made of.

It would be a

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huge win for them and you can see

how it pans out on Match of the Day

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live on BBC One from 7:30pm. Thank

you. More throughout the morning, of

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course.

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Bradley Lowery was just

six-years-old when he died

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of neuroblastoma last summer.

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Before his death, the little boy

who supported Sunderland,

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struck up a friendship with one

of the club's star

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players, Jermain Defoe.

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Their bond was so strong

that the pair called each

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other "best friends."

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Next month, Bradley's mother, Gemma,

with Jermain Defoe's help, will

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launch the Bradley Lowery

foundation.

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In a moment I'll be speaking

to Bradley's mum Gemma

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and Jermain Defoe, but first let's

remind ourselves of

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the inspirational little boy

who touched the nations hearts.

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COMMENTATOR: Applause for the boy

who has captured the hearts of the

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entire nation, the bravest smile you

will ever see. There is only one

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Bradley Lowery.

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Bradley was diagnosed with stage for

high risk neuroblastoma at the age

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of 18 months, this is a childhood

cancer. Very gruelling awful

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chemotherapy, which was so

difficult. I think people were

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captured by his story because he

smiled, he had a personality. His

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smile was his thing, everybody knew

Bradley for his smile.

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Bradley was born into a family that

love Sunderland, I've got a photo of

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him wearing the Sunderland strip

every year. He loved them and he

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loved Jermain

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every year. He loved them and he

loved Jermain.

Remember sitting in

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the changing room, and this little

kid was calling my name, then he saw

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me and he ran over, it was probably

that instant connection.

That

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connection was, well, I have never

seen a connection like that.

The

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love was genuine, I saw the way he

looked at me, I could see it in his

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eyes, when he was with me, I could

see that he was happy.

To hear your

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child's name get some... As a

parent, that is the most amazing,

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overwhelming thing I have ever and

will ever experienced. Guess who

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will be at the England match next

week?

Jermain Defoe! All wanted to

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do was be there for him, see him as

much as possible.

He came to the

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house, he came to the hospital, he

did everything in his power to make

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Bradley feel better.

He was so

loving, even little things, giving

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him cuddles and stuff like that, and

when he is cuddling me, he would

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pack my bag. All these memories, I

will never forget them.

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will never forget them.

Brad was

always brave, always full of life.

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Until the last moment, he raised so

much awareness for childhood cancer.

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Talk about having a best friend,

someone you love and trust, yeah, it

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was a real friendship.

I was proud

of him as a person, and how he dealt

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with everything, how he put others

first before himself. I was proud of

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my baby.

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Earlier I spoke to Bradley's mum

Gemma and to Jermaine Defoe. Thank

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you for speaking with us, Gemma,

first of all, tell the audience how

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you and your family are doing?

We

have bad days but we have good days

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as well. I have to live it every

single day with the charity.

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Sometimes that is a lot for me to

deal with, when I am in bed at

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night, but through the day, I look

at it like helping the

0:19:030:19:12

at it like helping the children, and

Bradley was put on the earth to do a

0:19:130:19:15

job and I need to continue that.

Jermain Defoe, if I can ask you the

0:19:150:19:20

same question, how are you doing?

Not too bad, I still spend time with

0:19:200:19:25

Gemma and Carl, which is important,

they come to the house. They come to

0:19:250:19:30

the house and spend some time and

that probably helps. You get mixed

0:19:300:19:36

days. Some days, I have loads of

great memories of Brads in my head,

0:19:360:19:41

and everywhere I go, people still

come to meet and speak about

0:19:410:19:45

Bradley. Of course it is still

fresh. Because the interest that

0:19:450:19:52

Brad has created, and maybe that was

his calling, to raise that

0:19:520:19:55

awareness. That will help the

families and the other children.

Has

0:19:550:20:03

working on the official launch of

the Bradley Lowery foundation

0:20:030:20:10

enabled you in anyway to help with

the grief you are experiencing?

I

0:20:100:20:14

think the whole thing of the Bradley

Lowery Foundation has helped me to

0:20:140:20:18

deal with the grief, because I get

to help other children and that

0:20:180:20:23

helps us a lot. I get a lot of

support, amazing support. A lot of

0:20:230:20:29

people lose loved ones and they do

not get the support I have had. So I

0:20:290:20:34

am very grateful and honoured that I

am still getting that support and

0:20:340:20:38

people are still getting behind us.

It definitely helps with the grief.

0:20:380:20:43

I know that you and your husband and

your boy, Kieran, went away for

0:20:430:20:48

Christmas, wherever you were, would

have been immensely difficult.

Yes,

0:20:480:20:53

we made the decision to go away

because I could not bear waking up

0:20:530:20:56

on Christmas morning...

Take your

time.

We decided to go away, it was

0:20:560:21:09

a hard time. But we got through it,

it was another day, and another

0:21:090:21:16

occasion, that we managed to get

through. We thought, tomorrow is a

0:21:160:21:21

new day, let's go, let's continue

his legacy and let's help other

0:21:210:21:28

children.

When you think about

Bradley, you talked about many

0:21:280:21:31

special memories you had, when you

talk about him, what comes into your

0:21:310:21:35

mind?

The first thing that comes

into my mind was the first time I

0:21:350:21:40

met Brads at Sunderland, when he ran

over to me in the changing rooms. He

0:21:400:21:48

was not like any of the other

children, they were quite reluctant

0:21:480:21:52

to come up to the players, they were

shy. But he ran over to me, burst

0:21:520:21:58

across the changing rooms, he jumped

on my lap and stuff like that, that

0:21:580:22:03

is the first time I met him, and

after that, it was really special.

0:22:030:22:08

Almost like a normal thing after

that, every game, he would walk out

0:22:080:22:12

with me, a special moment, when I

got back into the England squad and

0:22:120:22:16

he will out with me at Wembley, that

was a really special moment. It's

0:22:160:22:21

nice, I still have loads of

pictures, really nice to look at,

0:22:210:22:25

all good memories.

I have read that

you said, the first time he saw you,

0:22:250:22:31

it was the way that he looks at you,

what did you mean?

Yeah, I don't

0:22:310:22:36

know... I'm asked that question all

the time, it is hard to explain, but

0:22:360:22:45

it is the way that he looked at

me... I knew in that moment that he

0:22:450:22:49

was really happy, because I did not

really understand, too much, about

0:22:490:22:53

the cancer, at the time. I knew that

he was a Sunderland fan and I was

0:22:530:22:58

his favourite player and stuff like

that, but, I mean, it is stuff that

0:22:580:23:03

I have done before but that moment

was completely different to any

0:23:030:23:07

other experience I have had before

with any other child. The way that

0:23:070:23:11

he looked at me and like I said, he

jumped on my lap, there was an

0:23:110:23:15

instant connection, really special.

The foundation launches officially

0:23:150:23:20

as I said last -- next month with a

fundraising gala, part of your son

0:23:200:23:26

's legacy, what do you hope you will

be able to do for other sick

0:23:260:23:30

children with the money raised?

Hopefully we are going to support

0:23:300:23:35

other families and their fundraising

campaigns, his fundraising campaign

0:23:350:23:42

was extreme is successful, we had

support from the nation and beyond

0:23:420:23:45

and I would like the nation to get

beyond these other children as well.

0:23:450:23:49

In regards to the fundraising

campaign, we must support families

0:23:490:23:53

emotionally, during events, using

social media, anything that comes

0:23:530:23:59

with the fundraising aspect of it,

we will be there and we want the

0:23:590:24:04

personal touch, we want to meet the

families, spend time with them. We

0:24:040:24:09

will also be giving grants out to

these families. The foundation

0:24:090:24:14

started with a decent amount of

money because of Bradley, and we

0:24:140:24:17

want to give that back to the

children. We have a campaign going

0:24:170:24:22

also, this is to build a holiday

home for the sick children to be

0:24:220:24:25

able to go and enjoy some holidays,

because when you are stuck in

0:24:250:24:29

hospital a lot of the time, your

family is split apart, you don't get

0:24:290:24:33

to see your husband or your other

children and it is really nice to be

0:24:330:24:38

able to come away from that and go

away and have some special bonding

0:24:380:24:41

time and make special memories. It

is all I've got left now. I was

0:24:410:24:46

extremely lucky to have amazing

memories with Bradley and I want to

0:24:460:24:50

be able to give that to other

families.

I want to ask you about

0:24:500:24:55

one particular teenage boy, 15,

Alfie, he has had neuroblastoma,

0:24:550:25:00

which is what Bradley had, since he

was three, it keeps coming back.

0:25:000:25:05

He's tried to get access to a

particular antibody tribute which

0:25:050:25:09

would potentially stimulate his own

immune cells, to attack the cancer.

0:25:090:25:15

But, it is very difficult for

patients in the UK to get this

0:25:150:25:21

unless it is done privately. Is that

the kind of thing you want to focus

0:25:210:25:25

upon?

This antibody is crucial for

children with neuroblastoma, and a

0:25:250:25:31

lot of children have been lucky, but

unfortunately there is no trials

0:25:310:25:36

planned for this, and so if children

want this antibody, then they will

0:25:360:25:41

have to put in individual funding

request into NHS England, or fund

0:25:410:25:46

raise for the treatment themselves.

However, putting an individual

0:25:460:25:51

funding request into NHS England is

going to become difficult when there

0:25:510:25:54

are so many children needing this

treatment.

0:25:540:26:00

The

0:26:000:26:01

drug we are talking about is under

review, with an ICH, and hopefully

0:26:010:26:05

they will pass it and the NHS will

provide this drug. -- with NICE.

0:26:050:26:11

With this drug they have a 20% less

chance of relapse, there is an 80%

0:26:110:26:18

chance of relapse with

neuroblastoma, everybody knows that

0:26:180:26:21

after Bradley. Imagine having a

child going through horrendous

0:26:210:26:25

treatment on a daily basis, to then

have the fear of that coming back

0:26:250:26:28

and having to start again. So many

families around the world have to

0:26:280:26:36

deal with this, the last thing they

need is to worry about fundraising

0:26:360:26:39

for a drug. Also, with

neuroblastoma, particularly, there

0:26:390:26:43

is a vaccine trial in New York and a

lot of families are fundraising to

0:26:430:26:47

get to New York for this trial. That

is not going to come out in the UK,

0:26:470:26:52

for a very long time. If we can get

the antibody in the UK and then get

0:26:520:26:57

them to America for the vaccine

trial, to prevent the relapse coming

0:26:570:27:01

back, then the families are not

going to have the stress and the

0:27:010:27:05

heartache of having to go out, day

in day out, to fundraiser for the

0:27:050:27:09

money to get their child, to save

their child. No child is life should

0:27:090:27:14

have a price tag on them.

How

important was it for you and your

0:27:140:27:18

family to see Bradley's blossoming

friendship with Jermain Defoe?

It

0:27:180:27:24

was amazing, honestly, you cannot

describe it.

Tell him, I know that

0:27:240:27:28

he cannot see you but you can see

him.

It was amazing, the friendship

0:27:280:27:32

that you had, it was absolutely...

You've seen nothing like it.

0:27:320:27:38

Obviously, I posted a lot on social

media but there was so much went on

0:27:380:27:42

behind the scenes, that people did

not see. You came to the house, and,

0:27:420:27:46

you know, the bond they had was

incredible. And you have to think,

0:27:460:27:53

Bradley was from a completely

different culture, totally different

0:27:530:27:56

part of the country, server those

two people to have that bond, even

0:27:560:28:01

though they were so different, that

is fantastic.

It was special, it

0:28:010:28:06

was.

How important to you was it

that Bradley wanted to be your

0:28:060:28:10

friend?

Yeah, it was really

important, a real special feeling.

0:28:100:28:20

Something completely different to

what I have ever experienced before.

0:28:200:28:24

At first it was just like the usual

stuff that happens at football

0:28:240:28:29

clubs, players will out with

mascots. But completely different.

0:28:290:28:33

Away from football, spending time

with Bradley's family, that was

0:28:330:28:39

nice, and like Gemma said, loads of

times where behind-the-scenes, so

0:28:390:28:42

much went on. Sad times, but as

well, good memories, some of the

0:28:420:28:49

stuff that went on that was really

nice, going to the house. Little

0:28:490:28:54

cuddle, laying in bed with him,

that, for me, great memories. Real

0:28:540:28:59

special feeling. I still think about

these things every day. It was nice.

0:28:590:29:06

How much difference do you think

this young footballer made to your

0:29:060:29:09

young

0:29:090:29:18

young son's life?

Huge difference,

huge difference, if people saw how

0:29:180:29:23

Bradley we acted when Jermain came

to the home, to the hospital, he

0:29:230:29:27

made the last few months of his life

just special, because Jermain was

0:29:270:29:31

his hero, and I remember, late

stages, Bradley was in bed, just

0:29:310:29:37

waiting for him to pass over, and

Jermain came over, and Bradley had

0:29:370:29:43

not moved all day, had laid around

and cuddles, we sat and talked all

0:29:430:29:47

day. At this point he was not

talking, I was talking to him.

0:29:470:29:51

Jermain came to my home, late,

because he had been on holiday, he

0:29:510:29:58

had come up to see Bradley once he

got back. He came and heard his

0:29:580:30:02

voice and he heard his voice because

he was talking to my dad, and he sat

0:30:020:30:07

up! Could not believe it, and I

thought, he has not moved all day.

0:30:070:30:12

As soon as he heard his voice, he

sat up. That is when he had no

0:30:120:30:16

energy left, he was so tired, ready

to go to sleep. And he made the

0:30:160:30:22

efforts to set up when Jermain came

into the house.

0:30:220:30:26

Your families are clearly good

friends, clear to see from this

0:30:320:30:36

conversation, but friends for life,

I guess?

Of course, like I mentioned

0:30:360:30:40

before, she comes to the house and

Carl, they come to the house and

0:30:400:30:50

watch a game, and at the weekend we

will do normal stuff, go for dinner

0:30:500:30:53

and stuff like that. It's crazy

because even if they come to the

0:30:530:30:58

house and we go out for a drive

people come up to Carl on the

0:30:580:31:02

streets and shake his hand and stuff

like that. It's amazing the

0:31:020:31:05

awareness and support from the

nation, like nothing you've ever

0:31:050:31:08

seen before. This little Brad,

everyone loved him, his character,

0:31:080:31:14

that little smile, it was really

special. But I mean, yeah, friends

0:31:140:31:20

for life, it's important for us, me

and my family, my girlfriend Rachel,

0:31:200:31:24

to give that family the support,

because around because as period

0:31:240:31:27

that was really difficult for the

family. You can imagine. For us to

0:31:270:31:34

give them that support was really

important.

How would you describe

0:31:340:31:38

what kind of a woman, what kind of a

man Gemma is?

So strong. To sort of

0:31:380:31:47

like go through something like that,

you know, you can't even find words

0:31:470:31:54

to describe how it must be. But to

sort of like the strong for the rest

0:31:540:31:59

of her family, and even, you know,

being on different shows and having

0:31:590:32:04

to talk about it day in and day out,

doing the charity stuff, giving

0:32:040:32:11

back, I mean, that's a special

person. It's been so hard for Gemma

0:32:110:32:16

but to still be strong like that,

hats off to her, a real special

0:32:160:32:21

character, and you can see where

Bradley got it from.

How would you

0:32:210:32:27

describe Jermain Defoe?

He's more

than a footballer. A lot of people

0:32:270:32:34

just see Jermain Defoe is a good

footballer but he has a lot more

0:32:340:32:38

about him than that, and a very

special friend for life.

Thank you

0:32:380:32:44

both. Thank you, Jermain and Gemma,

thank you so much.

Thank you.

If you

0:32:440:32:53

want to find out more about the

foundation it's the Bradley Lowery

0:32:530:32:56

foundation. We have breaking news

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0.5% in the last quarter of 2017,

that's just in from the Office For

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National Statistics. The British

economy grew by 0.5% during the last

0:33:090:33:13

few months of 2017 according to the

Office For National Statistics. We

0:33:130:33:18

are going to talk to three people

who run their own business after

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10am to ask how their businesses

doing, one exports clothes and one

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exports touch-screen kiosks and one

of them bakes cakes from her

0:33:270:33:33

parents' kitchen so we will talk to

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business, let us know how business

is doing for you. Time for the

0:33:380:33:41

latest news with Anita. The BBC News

headlines this morning.

0:33:410:33:46

President Trump has offered

to apologise for retweeting

0:33:460:33:48

inflammatory anti-Muslim videos

posted by the far-right

0:33:480:33:50

group, Britain First.

0:33:500:33:51

Downing Street described it

as "wrong" when the president shared

0:33:510:33:53

the posts in November.

0:33:530:34:01

In an interview with

Good Morning Britain on ITV,

0:34:020:34:04

Mr Trump insisted he was a "big

believer" in fighting radical Islam,

0:34:040:34:07

but said he would certainly be

prepared to apologise.

0:34:070:34:11

Downing Street has distanced itself

from comments made by the Chancellor

0:34:110:34:14

Philip Hammond after he said any

future change to the UK's relations

0:34:140:34:17

with the EU could be very modest.

0:34:170:34:20

His remarks - during a speech

at the World Economic Forum -

0:34:200:34:23

were seized upon by Tory Leave

campaigners, and criticised

0:34:230:34:26

by a number of cabinet ministers.

0:34:260:34:27

Today, the Brexit Secretary,

David Davis, will give details

0:34:270:34:29

of the Government's plans

for the transition phase after

0:34:290:34:31

the UK leaves the EU next year.

0:34:310:34:33

The Labour peer, Lord Mendelsohn,

has been sacked from his party's

0:34:330:34:36

front bench for attending

the controversial Presidents Club

0:34:360:34:38

charity fundraising event,

where women working as hostesses

0:34:380:34:40

were reportedly groped.

0:34:400:34:45

A Labour spokesman said

there could be no excuse

0:34:450:34:47

for anyone's attendance,

and Jeremy Corbyn had

0:34:470:34:49

asked him to step down.

0:34:490:34:54

Lord Mendelsohn said he went

to the event as president

0:34:540:34:57

of a charity that received support

from it, but did not witness any

0:34:570:35:00

of the alleged incidents,

which he condemned as "appalling".

0:35:000:35:02

A fire at a hospital in South Korea

has killed more than 40 people.

0:35:020:35:10

-- at least 37 people.

0:35:110:35:13

The blaze is reported to have

continued for several hours

0:35:130:35:15

after breaking out in the emergency

room of the building

0:35:150:35:17

in the southern city of Milyang.

0:35:170:35:19

Last month, 29 people died in a fire

at a fitness centre South Korea.

0:35:190:35:22

The NHS medicines watchdog has

issued new guidelines on how best to

0:35:220:35:25

treat sore throats in order to cut

the use of antibiotics.

0:35:250:35:33

Excellence, Nice, says most sore

throats can be treated with

0:35:330:35:36

paracetamol.

0:35:360:35:38

Despite antibiotics being prescribed

in 60% of cases. That's a summary of

0:35:380:35:44

the BBC's latest news. Now for the

sport. 19 tonne grand slam winner

0:35:440:35:54

Roger Federer is making it clear

that experience counts in the

0:35:540:35:57

semifinal of the Australian Open, he

took the first set 6-1 against the

0:35:570:36:00

South Hyung Chu-Young, playing in

his first grand slam semi, Federer

0:36:000:36:05

is 5-2 up in the second set.

0:36:050:36:10

England made a terrible start

to the fourth one day

0:36:100:36:13

international against Australia -

losing their first five wickets

0:36:130:36:15

for just eight runs.

0:36:150:36:16

They were 196 all out.

0:36:160:36:18

In reply, Australia are 137-5

with 23 overs remaining.

0:36:180:36:21

And Alexis Sanchez is in line

to make his Manchester United debut

0:36:210:36:25

in the FA Cup fourth round later,

in front of the Match of The Day

0:36:250:36:29

cameras at Yeovil Town -

the team who are 21st in League Two.

0:36:290:36:32

We will see if they can do it a

little bit later on. Cheers, thank

0:36:320:36:35

you.

0:36:350:36:37

It's that time of the morning

where we bring you up to date

0:36:370:36:40

in the trial of former football

coach Barry Bennell.

0:36:400:36:42

An alleged victim of Bennell told

police he had experienced violent

0:36:420:36:45

nightmares after reporting

the allegations in late 2016.

0:36:450:36:47

Our reporter Jim Reed has

been following the trial

0:36:470:36:49

at Liverpool Crown Court.

0:36:490:36:52

Hello.

Good morning, the trial of Barry

0:36:520:36:58

Bennell, who denies 48 counts of

historical sexual abuse in this

0:36:580:37:01

case. Yesterday the court heard from

an alleged victim in this case, this

0:37:010:37:06

man said he played for Crewe

Alexandra football club as a

0:37:060:37:09

schoolboy. He said he stayed

overnight at Barry Bennell's house

0:37:090:37:13

during school holidays. It was there

he says he was abused on three

0:37:130:37:18

separate occasions. He also told the

court that since then other young

0:37:180:37:26

Crewe players also said they may

have been abused. He told the jury:

0:37:260:37:33

"I feel guilty because I never said

0:37:330:37:39

anything -

If I had said something maybe that

0:37:390:37:42

could have been stopped."

0:37:420:37:43

He said he decided to go

to the police in late 2016

0:37:430:37:45

after seeing media coverage alleged

abused by Mr Bennell.

0:37:450:37:48

what happened under cross

examination? Earlier it emerged that

0:37:480:37:51

police asked him about abuse in the

1990s and back then he denied being

0:37:510:37:54

abused. He said, he told the court,

that was because back then he just

0:37:540:38:00

wanted to, in his words, forget all

about it. The defending counsel,

0:38:000:38:05

Eleanor laws QC, asked him, I

suggest to you you rather got swept

0:38:050:38:10

up in these allegations and what you

said Barry Bennell did to you is not

0:38:100:38:13

the truth. He replies I totally

disagree. Barry Bennell denies 48

0:38:130:38:18

counts of historic abuse in this

case and the trial continues on

0:38:180:38:21

Monday next week.

Donald Trump is

making headlines this morning both

0:38:210:38:28

home and abroad. He sat down with

Piers Morgan where he said he would

0:38:280:38:31

be prepared to apologise for a

retweeting videos from the far right

0:38:310:38:35

group Britain First. In the

interview for ITV's good morning

0:38:350:38:41

Britain the President describes why

he did it.

0:38:410:38:44

It was done because I am a big

believer in fighting radical

0:38:440:38:47

Islamic terror.

0:38:470:38:48

This was a depiction

of radical Islamic terror.

0:38:480:38:50

But they were unverified videos.

0:38:500:38:51

At least one of them

was not what it seemed.

0:38:510:38:54

They are, but this was...

0:38:540:38:55

I didn't do it, I didn't go out.

0:38:550:38:57

I did a retweet.

0:38:570:38:59

It was a big story where you are,

but it was not a big story

0:38:590:39:03

where I am.

0:39:030:39:04

I get that.

0:39:040:39:05

So you're telling me

something like...

0:39:050:39:06

This is airing in Britain,

and I want them

0:39:060:39:08

to get to the real you.

0:39:080:39:10

Well, I'll tell you,

the real me is somebody

0:39:100:39:12

that loves Britain,

loves the UK, loves...

0:39:120:39:14

I love Scotland.

0:39:140:39:15

I wish, you know...

0:39:150:39:16

One of the biggest problems

I have in winning, I

0:39:160:39:19

won't be able to get

back there so often.

0:39:190:39:21

I would love to go there.

0:39:210:39:23

As you know, before this happened, I

would be there a lot.

0:39:230:39:25

Very special people,

and a very special place.

0:39:250:39:28

So, I don't want to cause any

difficulty for your country, that I

0:39:280:39:31

can tell you.

0:39:310:39:33

Can I get an apology out

of you just for the retweets?

0:39:330:39:36

Well, if you're telling me...

0:39:360:39:37

I think it would go a long way.

0:39:370:39:39

Then here's what's fair.

0:39:390:39:40

If you're telling me

that horrible people,

0:39:400:39:42

horrible, racist people, horrible...

0:39:420:39:45

I would certainly apologise

if you'd like me to do that.

0:39:450:39:48

I know nothing about them.

0:39:480:39:50

And you would disavow yourself

of people like that?

0:39:500:39:52

I don't want to be involved

with people like that,

0:39:520:39:54

but you're telling me about these

people, because I know

0:39:540:39:56

nothing about these people.

0:39:560:40:00

That interview was recorded in

Davos. Today Mr Trump will be the

0:40:000:40:05

first US President to speak at the

World Economic Forum at Davos since

0:40:050:40:09

Bill Clinton 18 years ago. What

should we expect? Let's talk more

0:40:090:40:16

about this with political author and

lecturer Brian Klass, the Economist

0:40:160:40:25

Magazine's Anne McElvoy who is in

Davos this morning, and Nyall

0:40:250:40:28

Strange, White House columnist at

0:40:280:40:38

Strange, White House columnist at US

political newspaper. What you expect

0:40:380:40:39

from Donald Trump and why is he

there?

In so many ways the liberal

0:40:390:40:45

elites, the international business

class in Davos stands for a lot of

0:40:450:40:51

things...

BROADCAST INTERRUPTED BY

0:40:510:40:53

INTERFERENCE.

Keen on open borders, free trade,

0:40:530:40:57

anti-protectionist. Donald Trump

feels the American economy has had a

0:40:570:41:02

big uptick so he feels he can claim

for that, whether it stirringly to

0:41:020:41:05

do with him or other factors, and

also...

0:41:050:41:08

BROADCAST INTERRUPTED BY

INTERFERENCE.

0:41:080:41:13

Gave a speech that people liked a

lot and said it would be nice that

0:41:130:41:16

if the American President would

speak so confidently about global

0:41:160:41:19

trade. He didn't want to be outdone.

I think people are expecting some

0:41:190:41:25

sort of attack on trade policy with

China, perhaps even quite stiff

0:41:250:41:32

tariffs... Would be a big story in

terms of America's trade with China

0:41:320:41:37

and the knock on. We will hear a bit

of soft Trumpism, you heard with

0:41:370:41:43

Piers Morgan he's not retreating

from all of his positions but he is

0:41:430:41:46

saying sorry for some of the less

wise and more provocative gestures

0:41:460:41:50

that he's made. I think we will get

a mixture of soft Trump and hard

0:41:500:41:54

Trump.

I wonder what you think of

the significance of Mr Trump

0:41:540:42:03

addressing the global elite in

Davos, Nyall Strange.

It's clearly a

0:42:030:42:08

big break from the way he campaigned

and the way he has conducted his

0:42:080:42:12

presidency so far. Donald Trump

positioned himself as the voice of

0:42:120:42:15

forgotten men and women. For him to

be at Davos seems incongruous with

0:42:150:42:23

that. To pick up on what your last

guest was saying, this has very much

0:42:230:42:29

been betrayed by the administration

as an opportunity for the President

0:42:290:42:35

to talk about America being open for

business, a phrase they have

0:42:350:42:38

repeated frequently, and also just

basically suggest he is someone who

0:42:380:42:42

is willing to engage of the world,

albeit on terms that he would see as

0:42:420:42:48

more favourable to the United

States.

Can I ask about the meeting

0:42:480:42:54

Donald Trump and with Theresa May,

Brian Klass? The idea that Theresa

0:42:540:43:00

May likes him personally and the

idea there will be lots more trade

0:43:000:43:02

with Great Britain once we get this

deal sorted after Brexit.

This is

0:43:020:43:07

one of those throwaway lines Trump

says that is a blip in the American

0:43:070:43:11

media and in Britain it is a big

symbolic gesture fixated on by the

0:43:110:43:14

British public. I don't think there

is anybody in Trump's base pushing

0:43:140:43:19

for more trade with Britain. In

fact, a lot of people in Trump's

0:43:190:43:23

base our

0:43:230:43:29

base our isolationists and it's the

antithesis to what Donald Trump is

0:43:290:43:32

supposed to represent.

But he does

know that global trade leads to

0:43:320:43:37

posterity.

Yes but he's been railing

against the terms of global trade

0:43:370:43:40

for decades. Used to be about Japan

in the 80s if you look at old Trump

0:43:400:43:44

tapes, now it's about Mexico and

China. Taking the word of Trump as

0:43:440:43:49

saying he will get a trade deal done

is a poor strategy because for one

0:43:490:43:54

thing the terms of the trade deal

will be very complicated, it will

0:43:540:43:57

only happen after the departure from

the EU and Trump makes a lot of

0:43:570:44:02

throwaway promises that don't come

to fruition. I think basing

0:44:020:44:06

strategic policy in trade on Trump's

word and a quick interview where he

0:44:060:44:10

says I have a good relationship is

reading into Trumpism far too much,

0:44:100:44:15

is not the top of his agenda to have

a US trade deal with the UK.

Would

0:44:150:44:19

you agree with that?

I don't really

agree with that, but I agree not to

0:44:190:44:29

base strategy on it but trade policy

for the administration...

0:44:290:44:36

BROADCAST INTERRUPTED BY

INTERFERENCE.

0:44:360:44:38

If we get something

0:44:380:44:44

If we get something of a... Back

from trade with China and the people

0:44:440:44:48

around Donald Trump can bend his ear

on this and they would be quite keen

0:44:480:44:51

to have Anglo sphere trade, trade

with the English-speaking world.

0:44:510:44:56

Britain fits neatly into that. It is

true Trump makes remarks that don't

0:44:560:45:04

come to anything but he likes to be

seen well amongst the business

0:45:040:45:08

elite, coming to Davos sitting on a

stage alongside Theresa May and he

0:45:080:45:12

said he would like to do a trade

deal...

0:45:120:45:16

BROADCAST INTERRUPTED BY

INTERFERENCE.

0:45:160:45:17

Had to keep a straight face too. But

I think there is milage for Donald

0:45:170:45:23

Trump as well as the UK in doing

this. Don't underestimate how hard

0:45:230:45:26

UK trade negotiators are working to

try and bring this home. They have

0:45:260:45:30

spent a lot of time with the Trump

team. It certainly doesn't replace

0:45:300:45:36

EU trade, I'm not suggesting that at

all. But I do think it is a possible

0:45:360:45:40

realistic outcome.

0:45:400:45:43

Is it possible that Donald Trump

might not be the US president by the

0:45:430:45:48

time this US UK trade deal is

signed?

Sure, these things are

0:45:480:45:56

fairly complicated instruments to

try to come to an agreement on, the

0:45:560:46:00

United Kingdom, as I understand it,

cannot start formal negotiations

0:46:000:46:05

until it formally leaves the

European Union, so surely Donald

0:46:050:46:09

Trump is suffering some of the

lowest approval ratings of any

0:46:090:46:13

first-term president at this point,

he won the election in the first

0:46:130:46:16

place by a very narrow margin, three

crucial states tilted the balance.

0:46:160:46:22

It is absolutely conceivable that

maybe somebody else will be in

0:46:220:46:25

charge by the time this comes to

fruition, if it does come to

0:46:250:46:29

fruition.

Thank you very much for

your time.

0:46:290:46:44

We will bring the latest news and

sport and a big weather forecast did

0:46:440:46:48

before 10am, because it is the

weekend, effectively.

0:46:480:47:00

Sophie Hahn is a Paralympic Champion

and five-time World champion.

0:47:000:47:03

She has cerebral palsy,

a condition caused by problems

0:47:030:47:05

with the brain before,

during or just after birth,

0:47:050:47:07

and it affects movement

and co-ordination.

0:47:070:47:09

In October at a Parliamentary

hearing into Paralympic

0:47:090:47:11

Classification, the father

of one her team-mates claimed

0:47:110:47:12

she was benefiting from competing

in the wrong category.

0:47:120:47:15

But now In her first interview

since then she's told our reporter

0:47:150:47:17

Kate Grey that she felt angry

and that the claims

0:47:170:47:20

were heart-breaking.

0:47:200:47:24

Hi, hello.

0:47:240:47:26

Who've we got here, then?

0:47:260:47:27

Sophie Hahn is normally

a private person.

0:47:270:47:29

Hi.

Hi.

0:47:290:47:31

Hello.

0:47:310:47:32

But after being named in a row over

classification in Paralympic sport,

0:47:320:47:36

she's invited me to her family home

to give her side of the story.

0:47:360:47:42

It's just very heartbreaking for me,

0:47:420:47:43

and doesn't do the sport any good.

0:47:430:47:47

We want to inspire people,

0:47:470:47:51

we want people with disability

to come and try it out.

0:47:510:47:54

In October, while giving evidence

to a committee of MPs,

0:47:540:47:56

Michael Breen, the father of Olivia

Breen, who competes in the same

0:47:560:47:59

category as Sophie,

0:47:590:48:02

appeared to call into question

Sophie's classification.

0:48:020:48:07

Miss Hahn didn't have

cerebral palsy,

0:48:070:48:11

but she had learning difficulties,

0:48:110:48:16

but she ended up with a cerebral

palsy classification.

0:48:160:48:18

Claiming she has an unfair

advantage over other

0:48:180:48:20

competitors by having

less of an impairment.

0:48:200:48:22

I was very angry and upset.

0:48:220:48:23

I never imagined seeing my face

all over the internet,

0:48:230:48:25

the newspaper, the TV.

0:48:250:48:26

I think, me, I just

work unbelievably hard.

0:48:260:48:28

I put in the hours of

training on the track.

0:48:280:48:31

It was interesting, we were told

we would never go to a sports day.

0:48:310:48:34

Sophie is a twin and following

a complicated birth was

0:48:340:48:36

diagnosed with brain damage,

which affected her growth

0:48:360:48:38

and development as a child.

0:48:380:48:46

Over the first two to three years,

she couldn't sit, couldn't

0:48:510:48:54

walk till she was three.

0:48:540:48:55

She couldn't stand till she was two.

0:48:550:48:56

She spent most of her life

in the children's centre.

0:48:560:49:01

In the four years she's been

competing, the family have

0:49:010:49:03

felt her achievements have been

undermined by behind-the-scenes

0:49:030:49:05

accusations that Sophie

is in the wrong category.

0:49:050:49:09

No two athletes are the same,

so there will be groups.

0:49:090:49:11

We've questioned whether or not

we should carry on.

0:49:110:49:14

And so has Sophie, to be honest.

0:49:140:49:17

There are times when Sophie

just says, that's it.

0:49:170:49:19

It's not worth it.

0:49:190:49:23

In the next few months,

Sophie will have to go

0:49:230:49:26

through the classification process

again,

0:49:260:49:30

along with many other

athletes,

0:49:300:49:33

in accordance with the changes made

by the Paralympic committee.

0:49:330:49:36

But for now, she's fully focused

on her training ahead of competing

0:49:360:49:38

in the Commonwealth Games

for the first time.

0:49:380:49:40

If I could add the Commonwealth

title,

0:49:400:49:42

then I would have had

all the titles up to 21,

0:49:420:49:45

and just keep going and keep

striving,

0:49:450:49:46

and keep getting better, really.

0:49:460:49:48

And that's how Sophie

wants to be remembered,

0:49:480:49:50

for her success on the track rather

than what goes on off it.

0:49:500:49:58

Auschwitz is a place that saw the

extermination of 1 million of the 6

0:50:080:50:14

million joule is people who were

murdered during the Holocaust.

0:50:140:50:17

Around 11 million people were

systematically killed in total,

0:50:170:50:20

including not only joule is people

by Gypsy families, gay people,

0:50:200:50:25

people with disabilities and

political prisoners. We are going to

0:50:250:50:28

speak now with Susan Pollack, a

witness to the very worst of

0:50:280:50:33

humanity, she survived Auschwitz by

being sent to work as a slave

0:50:330:50:36

labourer, 50 members of her family

lost their lives during the

0:50:360:50:42

Holocaust. Good morning, thank you

for talking to us. Who is it that

0:50:420:50:46

you think about on Holocaust

Memorial Day?

I think about my

0:50:460:50:50

family, I think about my mother, I

think about my father, I think about

0:50:500:50:55

my community. And I think about all

the joule is people -- all the

0:50:550:51:07

Jewish people during that time. This

discrimination before, the entire

0:51:070:51:10

picture is very vivid in my mind.

Why is it significant to continue to

0:51:100:51:15

mark this day?

It is absolutely

essential that we do not, God

0:51:150:51:21

forbid, repeated, not only repeat it

in the same terrible way, not only

0:51:210:51:28

against Jewish but against any

others, any other groups of people,

0:51:280:51:33

innocent groups of people.

When the

Second World War broke out, in your

0:51:330:51:39

hometown, back in Hungary,

anti-Semitism was becoming more

0:51:390:51:45

visible, more pronounced, but in

what kind of ways?

Anti-Semitism,

0:51:450:51:51

unfortunately, in Hungary, in that

little village where I live, not far

0:51:510:51:54

from Budapest, was always

noticeable. In certain ways, such as

0:51:540:52:02

around Easter time, we had to close

our windows, shutters put up,

0:52:020:52:07

because we were accused of

committing terrible crimes. But we

0:52:070:52:15

could live with it.

You could live

with the graffiti on the walls, you

0:52:150:52:20

could live with being beaten up at a

Boy Scouts event?

That's right,

0:52:200:52:26

that's right, and the many many

legislations against us, depriving

0:52:260:52:30

us of our social life, of our

political lives, and our

0:52:300:52:38

livelihoods.

And when the Nazis

invaded, March, 1944, it meant

0:52:380:52:45

people like yourself and your family

had to wear the Star of David, so

0:52:450:52:49

that you could be identified.

And I

remember that quite clearly,

0:52:490:52:57

particularly, travelling on public

transport, which was the trains,

0:52:570:53:03

everywhere, and many of the Jewish

students and children had been

0:53:030:53:07

arrested, long before the Germans

actually occupied... The occupation

0:53:070:53:17

was not that powerful because it was

the end of the war, the Russians

0:53:170:53:23

were at the border. Liberating. The

Allied forces had already come long

0:53:230:53:32

before, long before taken a position

in Europe.

And yet your father was

0:53:320:53:38

taken away. What happened to him?

My

father was taken away on a trick,

0:53:380:53:46

some sort of trickery. Some sort of

trickery information that we would

0:53:460:53:52

be resettled somewhere else, that

the conditions... They were so

0:53:520:53:56

appalling... We had no idea what

that meant. So in my little village,

0:53:560:54:05

all the men had been called up,

discussing it, but it was not a

0:54:050:54:12

discussion, it was a brutal attack,

against my father and other Jewish

0:54:120:54:20

men.

And then you and your mother,

ultimately, and your brother, were

0:54:200:54:25

taken to various camps, and ended up

at Auschwitz, what happens to your

0:54:250:54:30

mother there?

My mother, she was in

her 40s, very worn, fatigued, after

0:54:300:54:40

such a long, long... What shall I

say... Just coping, with these

0:54:400:54:48

difficulties. She was gassed on

arrival. I did not know it at the

0:54:480:54:55

time, but she was selected

immediately, only by her looks, they

0:54:550:55:01

did not consider her to be possible

to be used as a slave labourer. I

0:55:010:55:11

was reasonably tall for that age.

When the German came, and asked,

0:55:110:55:21

"Wie alt bist du?" And I lied, and

somebody, speaking Hungarian to me,

0:55:210:55:28

they said, don't say that you are

younger than 15 years old, and so I

0:55:280:55:31

lied.

Is that how you survived

Auschwitz?

That is how I survived,

0:55:310:55:38

and also the fact that the meagre

food, the nonexistent food, it had

0:55:380:55:45

not taken its toll on my body, yet.

What can you recall, we have many

0:55:450:55:50

young people watching, who will be

aware of the horrors of Auschwitz,

0:55:500:55:56

but tell them a little about the

conditions there?

Auschwitz was a

0:55:560:56:01

place of terror, of extreme, extreme

aggression, fear, the beginning of

0:56:010:56:10

dehumanisation. You couldn't think.

There was no food to support our

0:56:100:56:16

physical being. And there was no

opportunity to ask questions.

0:56:160:56:21

Language disappeared between us. So

we lived in that fear, and

0:56:210:56:29

incomprehension. Where are we? Is

this the world? We were used to a

0:56:290:56:36

loving home life. What has happened?

What has happened? To this day, I

0:56:360:56:42

look back and think, the depth of

inhumanity that a civilised world, a

0:56:420:56:50

civilised country, could create, and

support... Why?

That is what occurs

0:56:500:57:00

to you, when you reflect on what you

and your family were put through?

0:57:000:57:05

How could anyone do that?

How could

anybody do that, how could those

0:57:050:57:08

thousands, working in Auschwitz,

knowing what was going on, everybody

0:57:080:57:14

knew full well, and yet they did

their jobs in such an aggressive

0:57:140:57:21

way. As we were standing, being

counted, four hours. -- for hours. I

0:57:210:57:35

was selected many times by Dr

Mengele, a man apparently with

0:57:350:57:44

various Ph.D. S to his name, he was

watching us. Marching in front of

0:57:440:57:49

him, stark naked. And we knew what

it was about. So we pinched our

0:57:490:57:55

cheeks, we held ourselves straight,

we tried to pass by quickly. There

0:57:550:58:02

was no fear in me anymore. I was

selected for slave labour and send

0:58:020:58:12

to a big German industrial town.

Finally,

0:58:120:58:19

Finally, Susan, many survivors go

into schools to talk to pupils about

0:58:190:58:23

some of the things you have talked

to us about today. And that is so

0:58:230:58:31

that they will learn about it and we

will never forget.

Exactly. We are

0:58:310:58:36

grateful, I am eternally grateful

for that

0:58:360:58:43

for that opportunity that the

British government supports. Yes, we

0:58:430:58:47

go, we speak to schools, many of

them are funded to go out to

0:58:470:58:55

Auschwitz and seeing it is more

important than reading about it. The

0:58:550:59:00

few of us left speak about what took

place only yesterday. In Europe.

0:59:000:59:11

Thank you for talking to us this

morning. Thank you.

Thank you.

0:59:110:59:18

In just a moment, the latest news

and sport, but first, the weather

0:59:180:59:22

forecast.

0:59:220:59:25

Pretty lively weather so far this

week but at the end of the working

0:59:260:59:29

week we have something just that

little bit quieter, from the

0:59:290:59:32

satellite imagery you can see, the

UK in there, clearer weather, out in

0:59:320:59:38

the West, weather front moving to

the weekend, that is out towards the

0:59:380:59:42

West, for many of us, some sunshine,

beautiful start to the day in

0:59:420:59:47

Suffolk, South Yorkshire, between

the trees, some sunny spells

0:59:470:59:50

breaking through. This morning we

still have one or two showers around

0:59:500:59:54

but going to the afternoon, most of

us, all of us, dry and there will be

0:59:540:59:59

some sunny spells. Spells across

southern areas, bit of cloud across

0:59:591:00:06

England and Wales, thinning and

breaking up, by this afternoon, we

1:00:061:00:10

will have some sunshine. Across the

far West, moving in here, a little

1:00:101:00:17

bit hazy, should stay dry, until

this stage of the afternoon. Lots of

1:00:171:00:23

sunshine across England and Wales

and light wind, despite temperatures

1:00:231:00:27

lower than they have been, six,

seven, 8 degrees, I suspect that

1:00:271:00:33

they will feel quite pleasant, with

the sunshine and the light wind.

1:00:331:00:36

Through tonight, we will see rain

spreading into Northern Ireland, and

1:00:361:00:42

into Scotland as well, south and

East, clear spells, letting mist and

1:00:421:00:45

fog patches form. Temperatures down

to two to 4 degrees, that a bit less

1:00:451:00:51

cold for the West. Cloudy for us,

rain around, especially on Saturday,

1:00:511:00:59

quite breezy, but also mild, because

the air is coming in from the

1:00:591:01:05

south-west. Area of low pressure

moving across Scotland, isobars are

1:01:051:01:09

fairly close together, indicative of

fairly strong wind on Saturday, and

1:01:091:01:13

the weather front is bringing some

rain. Rain moved to the south-east,

1:01:131:01:19

eventually by the afternoon across

East Anglia the south-east. Clearer

1:01:191:01:22

skies coming to northern and western

areas, some brighter weather. Mild

1:01:221:01:28

day. Eight to 11 degrees. The wind

starts to pick up across the far

1:01:281:01:33

north-west of Scotland. Severe

gales. That wind will ease down.

1:01:331:01:39

Some rain across the North, dryer

and brighter weather, but again, as

1:01:391:01:44

temperatures up in double figures,

and going into next week,

1:01:441:01:47

temperatures dropping just a touch,

staying cloudy, into Tuesday, with

1:01:471:01:53

some rain at times.

1:01:531:01:56

Hello it's Friday, it's 10am,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

1:01:561:02:03

US President Donald Trump says he is

prepared to say sorry for a

1:02:031:02:07

retweeting posts from the far right

group Britain First saying he knew

1:02:071:02:10

nothing about the group before

sharing three of their videos.

1:02:101:02:13

If you're telling me these are

horrible people, horrible, racist

1:02:131:02:15

people, I would certainly apologise

if you'd like me to do that.

1:02:151:02:18

I know nothing about them.

1:02:181:02:20

That was speaking to

ITV's Piers Morgan.

1:02:201:02:25

Bradley Lowery was just six

when he died of cancer but he made

1:02:251:02:28

a huge impression on those

who met him and on millions

1:02:281:02:30

of people who didn't.

1:02:301:02:31

Star striker Jermain Defoe

supported him during his battle

1:02:311:02:34

with neuroblastoma.

1:02:341:02:37

And they became best friends.

1:02:371:02:40

It's amazing, the awareness

and support from the nation was like

1:02:401:02:43

nothing you've ever seen before.

1:02:431:02:48

You know, this little Brad,

just everyone loved him, his

1:02:481:02:52

character and that little smile,

he was really special.

1:02:521:02:54

Next month Bradley's mum

will officially launch

1:02:541:02:56

the Bradley Lowry Foundation -

to help other children

1:02:561:02:58

with the condition.

1:02:581:02:59

You can watch the full interview

with both Gemma Hunt Jermain on our

1:02:591:03:06

programme page.

1:03:061:03:08

With 13 Oscar nominations

The Shape of Water has

1:03:081:03:10

received a lot of attention.

1:03:101:03:11

But this morning its director is now

facing accusations of plagiarism.

1:03:111:03:14

We'll be speaking to

one of his friends.

1:03:141:03:17

Good morning.

1:03:201:03:21

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of todays news.

1:03:211:03:26

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news.

1:03:261:03:30

Good morning.

1:03:301:03:31

President Trump has offered

to apologise for retweeting

1:03:311:03:33

inflammatory anti-Muslim videos

posted by the far-right

1:03:331:03:35

group, Britain First.

1:03:351:03:36

Downing Street described it

as "wrong" when the president shared

1:03:361:03:38

the posts in November.

1:03:381:03:44

In an interview with

Good Morning Britain on ITV,

1:03:441:03:46

Mr Trump insisted he was a "big

believer" in fighting radical Islam,

1:03:461:03:49

but said he would certainly be

prepared to apologise.

1:03:491:03:51

Then here's what's fair.

1:03:511:03:52

If you're telling me

that horrible people,

1:03:521:03:54

horrible, racist people, horrible...

1:03:541:03:55

I would certainly apologise

if you'd like me to do that.

1:03:551:03:57

I know nothing about them.

1:03:571:03:59

And you would disavow yourself

of people like that?

1:03:591:04:01

I don't want to be involved

with people like that,

1:04:011:04:03

but you're telling me about these

people, because I know

1:04:031:04:06

nothing about these people.

1:04:061:04:07

Britain's economy grew

faster than expected

1:04:071:04:08

during the fourth quarter

of 2017, the Office

1:04:081:04:10

For National Statistics said.

1:04:101:04:13

GDP expanded by 0.5%, driven

by growth in the services sector.

1:04:131:04:15

However, the ONS said longer-term

trends were pointing

1:04:151:04:17

to a broader slowdown.

1:04:171:04:19

In 2017 as a whole, growth

was 1.8%, the slowest rate

1:04:191:04:22

of expansion since 2012.

1:04:221:04:29

BBC presenter Nicky Campbell has

confirmed he will take a pay cut

1:04:291:04:32

amid the growing controversy

about pay equality

1:04:321:04:34

at the Corporation.

1:04:341:04:35

He's one of several high-profile BBC

presenters, who - it's believed -

1:04:351:04:38

have all agreed either formally,

or in principle,

1:04:381:04:40

to reduce their pay.

1:04:401:04:43

The move comes after Carrie Gracie

resigned as the BBC's China Editor,

1:04:431:04:46

saying men and women doing similar

jobs were not paid the same.

1:04:461:04:48

An independent report on the issue

is due to be published next week.

1:04:481:04:56

Downing Street has distanced

itself from comments

1:04:581:05:00

made by the Chancellor,

Philip Hammond, after he said any

1:05:001:05:03

future change to the UK's relations

with the EU could be "very modest".

1:05:031:05:06

His remarks - during a speech

at the World Economic Forum -

1:05:061:05:09

were seized upon by Tory Leave

campaigners, and criticised

1:05:091:05:11

by a number of cabinet ministers.

1:05:111:05:17

Today, the Brexit Secretary,

David Davis, will give details

1:05:171:05:19

of the government's plans

for the transition phase after

1:05:191:05:21

the UK leaves the EU next year.

1:05:211:05:29

The Labour peer, Lord Mendelsohn,

has been sacked from his party's

1:05:351:05:37

front bench for attending

the controversial Presidents Club

1:05:371:05:39

charity fundraising event,

where women working as hostesses

1:05:391:05:41

were reportedly groped.

1:05:411:05:46

A Labour spokesman said

there could be no excuse

1:05:461:05:48

for anyone's attendance,

and Jeremy Corbyn had

1:05:481:05:49

asked him to step down.

1:05:491:05:51

Lord Mendelsohn said he went

to the event as president

1:05:511:05:53

of a charity that received support

from it , but did not witness any

1:05:531:05:56

of a charity that received support

from it, but did not witness any

1:05:561:06:00

of the alleged incidents,

which he condemned as "appalling".

1:06:001:06:02

A fire at a hospital in South Korea

has killed at least 37 people.

1:06:021:06:05

The blaze is reported to have

continued for several hours

1:06:051:06:07

after breaking out in the emergency

room of the building

1:06:071:06:10

in the southern city of Milyang.

1:06:101:06:11

Last month, 29 people died in a fire

at a fitness centre South Korea.

1:06:111:06:15

The Defence Secretary has

accused Russia of spying

1:06:151:06:16

on Britain's energy networks,

which he said could lead to chaos

1:06:161:06:19

in the country if supplies were hit.

1:06:191:06:21

Gavin Williamson told

the Daily Telegraph that crippling

1:06:211:06:23

the UK's infrastructure might cause

"thousands of deaths".

1:06:231:06:25

Mr Williamson said Russia

was the biggest threat facing

1:06:251:06:27

the country at the moment.

1:06:271:06:31

The NHS medicines watchdog has

issued new guidelines on how best to

1:06:311:06:35

treat sore throats in an attempt to

cut the use of antibiotics. The

1:06:351:06:40

guidelines from Nice, the National

Institute for health and care

1:06:401:06:43

excellence says most people only

need paracetamol despite antibiotics

1:06:431:06:47

being prescribed in 60% of cases.

1:06:471:06:52

The RAC says it has seen

a "concerning rise" in the number

1:06:521:06:54

of drivers breaking down

after hitting potholes.

1:06:541:06:56

The organisation said there had been

an 11% increase in call-outs

1:06:561:06:59

caused by poor quality roads

in the last three months of 2017.

1:06:591:07:02

The government says

it's spending billions

1:07:021:07:03

on improving road journeys.

1:07:031:07:07

That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10:30am.

1:07:071:07:12

Victoria.

Thank you, Anita. I have many

1:07:121:07:16

messages from you on a variety of

different subjects we have been

1:07:161:07:19

talking about this money, many are

about the interview with Bradley

1:07:191:07:23

Lowery's mum gem and with Jermain

Defoe. The Bournemouth striker. Paul

1:07:231:07:30

says Gemma Lowry is so strong and

seems a lovely woman. Keira says I'm

1:07:301:07:34

in tears listening to them both,

beautiful words from Jermain Defoe,

1:07:341:07:39

I'm sure Bradley's legacy will do

exceptionally well. Claire: what a

1:07:391:07:44

beautiful boy Bradley was and so

brave of his mum speaking out on the

1:07:441:07:49

heartbreaking circumstances. This

e-mail from Kim Collins my heart

1:07:491:07:51

goes out to you and yours, Gemma.

Bradley was and is a great legend

1:07:511:07:55

and his legacy will go on forever.

Bless you, Gemma, and heartfelt love

1:07:551:08:01

to you. Thank you for your messages

regarding the interview with Susan

1:08:011:08:07

Pollock, the Holocaust survivor.

Grant just tweeted this. My words

1:08:071:08:10

can't even take listening to the

horrors of Auschwitz. Such bravery,

1:08:101:08:15

my heart breaks for the victims of

such incomprehensible cruelty only

1:08:151:08:20

73 years ago in Europe. This tweet

from Blocks: I'm watching this

1:08:201:08:26

incredible human being talking about

her Auschwitz experiences. It's

1:08:261:08:31

difficult to reconcile this was in

living history and not 1500 years

1:08:311:08:35

ago. Thank you for those.

1:08:351:08:36

Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning -

1:08:361:08:39

use the #Victorialive.

1:08:391:08:42

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And if you text, you will be charged

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Here's some sport now with Hugh.

1:08:491:08:50

Good morning, it happened far

quicker than expected or hoped for

1:08:501:08:53

in the BBC sport centre but there is

good news for Roger Federer today,

1:08:531:08:56

he's through to the final of the

Australian Open after his South

1:08:561:09:00

Korean opponent retired.

1:09:001:09:04

Federer the defending

champion took the first

1:09:041:09:07

against 21-year-old Hyeong Chung

6-1, in imperious fashion.

1:09:071:09:11

But for the Korean, playing

in his first Grand Slam semi-final,

1:09:111:09:17

suffered severe blisters on his feet

meant his dream was crushed, with

1:09:171:09:20

his movement clearly hindered.

1:09:201:09:28

Trailing 5-2 in the second

set he couldn't take

1:09:281:09:29

any more and retired.

1:09:291:09:30

Federer will take on Marin Cilic

in a repeat of last

1:09:301:09:34

year's

Wimbledon Final in Sunday's

1:09:341:09:35

Showpiece.

1:09:351:09:43

England are well on the way

to losing the fourth

1:09:501:09:52

one-day international

against Australia in Adelaide.

1:09:521:09:54

They led 3-0 going into the match

and were aiming for a clean sweep

1:09:541:09:57

but couldn't have had a worse start

Having been put into bat -

1:09:571:10:00

England lost their first

five wickets for just

1:10:001:10:03

eight runs.

1:10:031:10:04

They managed to post a respectable

score of 196 all out helped mainly

1:10:041:10:07

by 78 from Chris Woakes.

1:10:071:10:08

In reply, Australia 183

for six in Adelaide,

1:10:081:10:10

In reply, Australia

183-6 in Adelaide,

1:10:121:10:13

with just 14 more runs needed

to reduce their arrears

1:10:131:10:16

in the series to 3-1.

1:10:161:10:23

It's a poignant evening for Yeovil

Town's manager Darren Way later.

1:10:231:10:26

The League two team welcome

the stars of Manchester United

1:10:261:10:28

and for him it's a day

to truly savour.

1:10:281:10:31

Nine years ago a car crash

could have killed him.

1:10:311:10:33

It left him unable to walk

for a yearand since then,

1:10:331:10:36

he's had 29 operations

to aid his recovery

1:10:361:10:38

with more to come -

Football Focus' Mark Clemmit went

1:10:381:10:40

to meet him.

1:10:401:10:45

I've been at a stage when it was

life or death so I know what that

1:10:451:10:50

feels like. It's probably helped me

deal with football management, it's

1:10:501:10:54

made me more resilient and more

determined and I wake up with a

1:10:541:10:58

willpower to succeed.

Did you think

you were going to die?

Yes, scary

1:10:581:11:04

feeling, that's for sure. I was at

the lowest point in my life and Sir

1:11:041:11:08

Alex brought Man United down to play

in my testimonial, so I'm very

1:11:081:11:15

grateful for what Man United have

done but as a manager now against

1:11:151:11:18

all odds to get into this position

now is amazing.

We will see if

1:11:181:11:22

Darren and his team can make their

FA Cup dreams come true live on BBC

1:11:221:11:26

One from 7:30pm, and that would be a

huge shock, just what the FA Cup is

1:11:261:11:30

all about. Victoria thank you very

much.

1:11:301:11:33

If you work in, for or run

a business you'll be

1:11:331:11:36

particularly interested in how

the economy is doing.

1:11:361:11:38

Figures released this morning by

the Office For National Statistics

1:11:381:11:41

show that it has unexpectedly picked

up pace - by 0.5% - during the last

1:11:411:11:45

three months of 2017.

1:11:451:11:46

Experts think the result is partly

down to the strength

1:11:461:11:48

of the global economy recently.

1:11:481:11:56

In and we will speak to two business

owners, hopefully, let's see them.

1:11:561:12:02

There they are. First, this what GDP

is.

1:12:021:12:07

GDP stands for gross domestic

product. It's arguably the most

1:12:071:12:13

important economic statistic

published four times a year, it

1:12:131:12:16

tells us if the economy is growing

or contracting compared to the

1:12:161:12:19

previous three months. The figure is

essentially a measure of everything

1:12:191:12:24

we do or make for money as a nation.

From the haircuts and hamburgers

1:12:241:12:31

sold to individuals, tipped services

like construction projects paid for

1:12:311:12:34

by the government. The last figure

to be released show that from July-

1:12:341:12:43

September 2017 the UK economy grew

by 0.4%. The three months before

1:12:431:12:49

that it grew by 0.3%. Today's

figures give an estimate for how the

1:12:491:12:55

economy performed between October

and December last year. The GDP

1:12:551:13:00

figure informs economic policy.

Depending on whether its growing or

1:13:001:13:06

falling the government will know how

much tax receipts to expect and how

1:13:061:13:10

much it has to spend on services. If

GDP rises it also means we are

1:13:101:13:16

producing more as a nation and the

country's overall income is going

1:13:161:13:21

up. But that wouldn't necessarily

mean we would see our wages rise in

1:13:211:13:24

real terms.

1:13:241:13:28

Our business presenter Alex Baxter

is here. What do these figures mean,

1:13:281:13:32

this growth of 0.5%?

It came in

better-than-expected, many people

1:13:321:13:38

expected growth of 0.4% for the

fourth quarter, which as your

1:13:381:13:42

graphic explained we saw in the

third quarter, so beating

1:13:421:13:45

expectations proven to be the

fastest-growing quarter in 2017, the

1:13:451:13:49

pound got a boost off the back of

the release of that number as well.

1:13:491:13:53

However, the ONS has also given a

warning alongside this number saying

1:13:531:13:56

that the overall larger picture is

one of slow and uneven growth across

1:13:561:14:01

the UK. And also, the great bulk,

the great boost behind the growth in

1:14:011:14:07

the fourth quarter came as ever from

the services sector, accounting for

1:14:071:14:13

some 79% of our economy, it's so

important, Victoria, but

1:14:131:14:17

particularly services in the

financial and business sector, so

1:14:171:14:23

lawyers, business administrators,

recruiters, architects, they

1:14:231:14:24

accounted for a huge amount of this

growth. When I look at the services

1:14:241:14:29

sector in the more consumer facing

areas, hotels, catering,

1:14:291:14:32

communications, we saw a slowing of

growth, perhaps because of a slight

1:14:321:14:37

weakening of consumer confidence

because of the weaker pound and wage

1:14:371:14:45

stagnation. We saw growth in

manufacturing offset slightly by a

1:14:451:14:48

fall in oil and gas extraction. And

construction, that saw a fall for

1:14:481:14:53

the third consecutive quarter.

Agriculture also fell. Also worth

1:14:531:14:59

remembering that early in the week

we heard from the International

1:14:591:15:03

Monetary Fund which upgraded its

forecast for global growth. You

1:15:031:15:07

mentioned earlier how strong the

global economy is at the moment,

1:15:071:15:11

particularly the US, Asia and

Germany. However, when it comes to

1:15:111:15:16

the UK they downgraded our growth

forecast for 2019, the year we are

1:15:161:15:20

due to leave the EU.

Thank you.

Let's talk to some business owners

1:15:201:15:25

and see how business is for them.

1:15:251:15:29

Alice Nebenose who set up her cake

business CakeALicious ten months ago

1:15:291:15:32

and runs it from her parents' house.

1:15:321:15:33

Tom Cridland who runs his own

fashion brand which has made clothes

1:15:331:15:36

for the likes of Daniel Craig

and Rod Stewart.

1:15:361:15:42

And on The Wirral Dean Ward -

co-founder of Evoke,

1:15:421:15:46

which exports touchscreen kiosks

to retailers in 60 countries.

1:15:461:15:54

Thank you for joining us, Tom Wood,

and Dean, you both export, I will

1:15:581:16:02

start with you, how is business?

It

is great.

1:16:021:16:11

is great. January is our four year

anniversary, we started with a

1:16:111:16:14

government start-up loan. Brexit, I

was a little worried around that

1:16:141:16:18

time, but things have really kept

rolling. -- Tom.

You were worried

1:16:181:16:23

around the referendum time.

Immediately after the decision was

1:16:231:16:32

made, we experienced stock orders

going up in cost a lot, we order in

1:16:321:16:39

euros, that had an effect on the

value of the pound, it was terrible,

1:16:391:16:42

but aside from that, I don't really

think it is good to whinge and

1:16:421:16:49

speculate about what might happen,

better to get on with what might

1:16:491:16:53

happen and benefit from the

positives.

Dean, you too export, how

1:16:531:16:58

is business?

Very similar. We have

seen very good growth. We had a

1:16:581:17:08

similar experience when the Brexit

decision was

1:17:081:17:15

decision was made, dollars and

euros, very concerning time for us

1:17:161:17:21

but everyone has got to be positive.

You keep cutting out, did you just

1:17:211:17:28

say that you have seen growth of

over 50%?

Yes, yes, we have.

1:17:281:17:36

Hopefully around 60% growth this

year.

I'm only just catching every

1:17:361:17:40

other word, I'm sorry, Dean, that is

our fault, that we bring in Alice,

1:17:401:17:45

ten months ago, how did you feel

when you quit your job in publishing

1:17:451:17:49

and pursue your hobby as a job,

making cakes.

I was quite scared,

1:17:491:17:55

but I felt like at the time, it

needed to be done, because I was

1:17:551:18:02

having to juggle a couple of jobs at

the same time and I was always tired

1:18:021:18:06

from doing bakeds, doing cakes,

working full-time, and so when I am

1:18:061:18:13

at home, still under the support of

my parents, that is the perfect time

1:18:131:18:17

for me to take a leap of faith and

focus on my cakes and focus on

1:18:171:18:21

building my brand. Back then it was

quite scary, because I did not know

1:18:211:18:26

what was going to happen next. And

what did happen next, it has been

1:18:261:18:31

positive, I baked every week, my

business... Yes, people are buying,

1:18:311:18:36

people are ordering. I

1:18:361:18:42

people are ordering. I bake more

every week. There are ups and downs,

1:18:421:18:45

last year's wedding season was huge,

so was Christmas season, but where

1:18:451:18:52

we are in January now, it is a bit

quiet. For the most part, it has

1:18:521:18:56

been very positive.

,

1:18:561:19:02

Tom, and Dean, you must be thinking

about the potential of tariffs being

1:19:021:19:10

imposed, if things don't go

according to plan, necessarily, when

1:19:101:19:12

it comes to exporting to Europe.

Absolutely, because the product is

1:19:121:19:18

made in Portugal and Italy, tariffs

and duty and everything could be

1:19:181:19:23

potentially devastating. On the

other side of the coin, we could

1:19:231:19:28

look at making it here in the UK,

and Brexit will sparked a Renault

1:19:281:19:35

songs -- will spark a renaissance in

British manufacturing, and I am

1:19:351:19:39

considering that, I am considering

switching, my mother is Portuguese,

1:19:391:19:43

that is why I make it there, bit of

sentimentality attached.

You also

1:19:431:19:49

export to the United States, 40%, so

you pay tariffs there.

When we

1:19:491:19:53

export, we ship direct to consumer,

often, unless the orders are

1:19:531:19:59

massive, we do not take care of

that, and people are happy to pay

1:19:591:20:03

those charges to get the clothing

over there, amazingly.

1:20:031:20:09

over there, amazingly.

Dean, figures

out today show that the economy grew

1:20:101:20:13

by 0.5% in the last two months of

last year, more than people were

1:20:131:20:17

expecting, that is to do with

according to the experts the global

1:20:171:20:21

economy, performing well, that is

the reason behind the UK economy

1:20:211:20:25

performing in the way that it has,

what you think of that?

I can only

1:20:251:20:31

speak from my

1:20:311:20:40

speak from my experience, from our

perspective, we are seeing emerging

1:20:401:20:44

markets. The far east that we are

exporting into. Because companies

1:20:441:20:56

will come on board and they will

want to provide the same experience.

1:20:561:20:59

In my experience, absolutely.

In

terms of planning for the future,

1:20:591:21:07

transition arrangements, and

hopefully, a Brexit deal that is

1:21:071:21:11

mutually beneficial, are you

thinking that far ahead, do you have

1:21:111:21:15

two?

Definitely, especially if I am

going to continue to run my business

1:21:151:21:21

in London. Because it is costly to

live in London. Especially when it

1:21:211:21:31

comes to my ingredients as well,

ingredients that are used to make my

1:21:311:21:35

cakes have increased, I have seen an

increase in the prices. So I think I

1:21:351:21:40

need to think about how to take the

next step in order to maintain the

1:21:401:21:45

quality and standard of the cakes

that I make for my customers.

Are

1:21:451:21:51

your parents happy to have you

living at home and cooking in their

1:21:511:21:54

kitchen?

My mother is always

moaning(!) you shouldn't have said

1:21:541:21:59

that on national television

LAUGHTER

But she helps a lot, sometimes it

1:21:591:22:04

gets a bit too much doing the cakes

by myself, she washes up and cleans

1:22:041:22:08

up, so she is a pillar. I have

hijacked the dining room, making it

1:22:081:22:15

into a mini office space, so I have

my own space. Small beginnings for

1:22:151:22:18

that.

I wish you continued success,

thank you very much. Thank you.

1:22:181:22:29

Some messages now, because many of

want to talk about the interview

1:22:311:22:33

with Jimmy Mac about Gemma Lowry,

the mother of Bradley Lowery, and

1:22:331:22:38

the interview with Susan

1:22:381:22:44

the interview with Susan Pollack,

the Auschwitz survivor. Ryan says, I

1:22:441:22:46

did a charity event for Bradley

Lowery and he was such a happy man,

1:22:461:22:51

and Gemma is a strong lovely woman.

This text, a couple of moving

1:22:511:22:56

interviews with Bradley Lowery's

mother and the lady who survived

1:22:561:22:59

Auschwitz, I want to send my best

wishes to them boast, brilliant

1:22:591:23:05

interview with Susan Pollack,

chilling final words from her, this

1:23:051:23:09

took place in Europe only yesterday.

Such a powerful voice in a world

1:23:091:23:13

which is rapidly forgetting. One

more for now, thank you for the

1:23:131:23:17

interview with the excellent Susan

Pollack I worked with this grand

1:23:171:23:23

lady for a number of years and she

truly is an inspiration. Keep those

1:23:231:23:28

messages coming in.

1:23:281:23:32

The

1:23:321:23:33

shape of water has received a lot of

attention but this morning its

1:23:331:23:36

director is facing accusations of

plagiarism, we will be speaking with

1:23:361:23:40

a film critic who knows the director

well.

1:23:401:23:53

Some of the BBC's leading male

presenters have agreed to take a pay

1:23:541:23:57

cut after revelations

over equal pay.

1:23:571:23:58

Nicky Campbell is among several

people who have all agreed,

1:23:581:24:01

either formally or in principle,

to reduce their salaries.

1:24:011:24:04

It's believed Jeremy Vine,

John Humphrys and Huw Edwards

1:24:041:24:05

have also agreed to pay cuts.

1:24:051:24:12

It follows the BBC's former

China Editor, Carrie Gracie,

1:24:121:24:14

quitting her post in protest

at unequal pay, and calling for men

1:24:141:24:17

and women in the same roles

at the BBC to be paid the same.

1:24:171:24:21

Next Wednesday the BBC's

Director General, Lord Hall,

1:24:211:24:23

and Carrie Gracie are to appear

separately before an MPs committee

1:24:231:24:25

on how the BBC plans to address

concerns about equal pay.

1:24:251:24:29

£135,000, the BBC offered to raise

that to £180,000, but I was not

1:24:291:24:35

interested in more money, I was

interested in equality. I kept

1:24:351:24:40

saying to my managers, that I did

not need more money, I just needed

1:24:401:24:44

to be made equal, and that can be

done in a variety of ways. The BBC

1:24:441:24:49

said it hoped to have agreements out

before Christmas but there is still

1:24:491:24:54

no grievance outcome to this day. --

hopes to have a grievance outcome

1:24:541:24:59

before Christmas. I go out to China,

telling this story and shining a

1:24:591:25:04

light. I'm not going to not shine a

light when I find a problem in my

1:25:041:25:09

home organisation that needs saying.

I do think salaries at the top are

1:25:091:25:13

an acceptably high, both for

presenters and stars of various

1:25:131:25:18

kinds and also for managers.

1:25:181:25:24

Lets get some reaction

from the Labour MP Jo Stevens,

1:25:321:25:35

who sits on the influential Digital,

Culture, Media and Sport Committee,

1:25:351:25:41

which is due to interview both

Carrie Gracie and Tony Hall.

1:25:411:25:44

She was an employment

lawyer for many years

1:25:441:25:46

before becoming an MP.

1:25:461:25:47

Also joining us is Claire Cohen,

she's the Women's Editor

1:25:471:25:50

of the Telegraph.

1:25:501:25:53

Your reaction to these pay cuts from

the male presenters?

I think the

1:25:531:25:58

timing of it is interesting, it is

not a coincidence that the

1:25:581:26:01

director-general and senior

management will appear before the

1:26:011:26:05

select committee next Wednesday,

whether or not it is a solution is

1:26:051:26:10

another matter. I don't think that

people making voluntary sacrifices

1:26:101:26:16

or individual gestures is a way to

solve what appears to be a very

1:26:161:26:21

large problem, if a job is worth

paying an amount of money for, it is

1:26:211:26:25

worth paying that amount of money

for it who ever does it, man or

1:26:251:26:28

woman. We will see how this develops

before next week and we will look

1:26:281:26:33

forward to seeing the results of the

review of on our talent, which we

1:26:331:26:36

are told will be published before

the select committee hearing next

1:26:361:26:39

week. -- on air talent.

Three cheers

for Carrie Gracie, I should think

1:26:391:26:46

there will be a lot of women in the

BBC and elsewhere are saying the

1:26:461:26:49

same thing, after months of

uncertainty for many women working

1:26:491:26:53

there, this is the first sign that

firm action is being taken after

1:26:531:26:57

promises and commitments that we

have not seen followed through on

1:26:571:27:00

quite quickly enough, and I think

what we just heard Kerry say on the

1:27:001:27:04

footage was the most important

point, this is not some cash grab by

1:27:041:27:09

women working at the BBC, this is

not raise my salary, this is pay

1:27:091:27:15

parity, which is what the law says

men and women should have. This is

1:27:151:27:20

the first commitment, the first

positive move by the BBC that we

1:27:201:27:23

have seen towards that.

Why is it

fair that these male centres, who

1:27:231:27:28

signed deals in good faith, should

be forced to take a pay cut?

I don't

1:27:281:27:33

think they are being forced, we

don't know the details, the fact is,

1:27:331:27:37

paying men and women equally for

doing the same work is the law. I'm

1:27:371:27:43

not doing that, the BBC and many

other employers, because this is not

1:27:431:27:46

just happening in the BBC, it

happens across the board, are in

1:27:461:27:50

breach of the law.

So that is a

management issue, not a presenter

1:27:501:27:54

issue? Why is it fair, whether they

are forced to all voluntarily met

1:27:541:27:59

offered to take a pay cut, why is

that fair?

If they have done

1:27:591:28:04

involuntarily, that is a decision

for them, it is a management

1:28:041:28:07

problem. The BBC have a problem,

this is endemic across the country,

1:28:071:28:13

many women take claims to tribunal

's for equal pay, there has been a

1:28:131:28:17

slump in claims over the last few

years because the coalition

1:28:171:28:21

government introduced fees to

employment tribunal 's, £1200 to

1:28:211:28:25

take a claim. We know that there is

a long-standing problem. Women in

1:28:251:28:30

work who suffer from pages, nation

throughout their careers do not just

1:28:301:28:34

suffer pages, nation, they suffer

pension dissemination because they

1:28:341:28:37

pay less into their pensions than

their male counterparts, so this

1:28:371:28:42

disc rumination continues for the

rest of their lives. The BBC have a

1:28:421:28:48

responsibility, morally, reputation

early, but legally as well, to make

1:28:481:28:51

sure there is no breach of equality

law, no breach of equal pay going

1:28:511:28:55

on.

Could it be argued that Jeremy

Vine, Nicky Campbell comic you

1:28:551:28:59

Edwards are being used by BBC

management to get them out of a

1:28:591:29:03

hole, head of that select committee?

-- Jeremy Vine, Nicky Campbell, Huw

1:29:031:29:11

Edwards.

Timing is interesting, I'm

sure it will be addressed when they

1:29:111:29:15

appear before the panel next week,

but none of this would have come to

1:29:151:29:22

light had Carrie Gracie not been

brave enough to put her head above

1:29:221:29:25

the parapet and say what was going

on, and...

It did come to light

1:29:251:29:31

before that, salaries were published

last summer.

They were, but that was

1:29:311:29:37

a move that was forced out of the

BBC as a result of work done by the

1:29:371:29:40

select committee, and it is only

because of that Carrie Gracie became

1:29:401:29:45

aware of the huge disparity in her

pay compared with male competitors.

1:29:451:29:51

Many messages here, Claire, on

Twitter, from people either

1:29:511:29:56

describing the men who have agreed

to take a pay cut as mugs or saying,

1:29:561:30:01

does not matter to me, salaries

across the BBC are still way too

1:30:011:30:05

high, and I am a licence fee payers.

Very easy to sit behind a keyboard

1:30:051:30:09

and write these things.

Doesn't mean

those things are not a reasonable

1:30:091:30:13

point and that they do not mean it.

1:30:131:30:16

John Humphrys on the today programme

recorded, thinking he was fair, that

1:30:211:30:25

these conversations are not just

happening on social media but behind

1:30:251:30:28

closed doors and that's what we need

to change. I read in a number of

1:30:281:30:32

newspapers in comment pieces people

saying, he was only joking and

1:30:321:30:35

didn't know he was being recorded,

but actually it is until we change

1:30:351:30:41

those ingrained conversations

happening behind closed doors that

1:30:411:30:44

we will struggle to change the

culture. It is fine having a

1:30:441:30:47

deadline to publish your pay gap but

until we

1:30:471:30:55

until we change people's minds we

might not see the pay parity that we

1:30:551:30:57

actually want. It is one thing to

come out in public and say the right

1:30:571:31:00

thing but unless you say it and

believe it behind closed doors

1:31:001:31:02

perhaps we're not winning the battle

as much as we think we are.

Do you

1:31:021:31:05

know what the gender pay gap at the

Telegraph is?

I couldn't possibly

1:31:051:31:08

say. But what I will say is I think

any media company, companies that

1:31:081:31:13

don't have perhaps such strict pay

structures, or levels, or grades, as

1:31:131:31:18

many professions do, and have a

legacy of being male dominated, are

1:31:181:31:21

going to find they have these

discrepancies, whether that's the

1:31:211:31:25

BBC, other media companies, or other

businesses of that nature so it

1:31:251:31:29

separately did think this is being

sorted out.

Thank you both. Select

1:31:291:31:33

Committee hearing next Wednesday

afternoon command for the purposes

1:31:331:31:36

of

1:31:361:31:41

of transparency I should tell you I

am a member of BBC And women, one of

1:31:411:31:44

the groups in this country

campaigning for equal pay for equal

1:31:441:31:47

work. 10:30am, time for the latest

news with Anita.

1:31:471:31:50

The headlines now on BBC News.

1:31:501:31:52

President Trump has offered

to apologise for retweeting

1:31:521:31:54

inflammatory anti-Muslim videos

posted by the far-right

1:31:541:31:56

group, Britain First.

1:31:561:31:57

Downing Street described it

as "wrong" when the president shared

1:31:571:31:59

the posts in November.

1:31:591:32:04

In an interview with

Good Morning Britain on ITV,

1:32:041:32:07

Mr Trump insisted he was a "big

believer" in fighting radical Islam,

1:32:071:32:09

but said he would certainly be

prepared to apologise.

1:32:091:32:12

Britain's economy grew

faster than expected

1:32:121:32:13

during the fourth quarter

of 2017, the Office

1:32:131:32:15

For National Statistics says.

1:32:151:32:17

GDP expanded by 0.5%, driven

by growth in the services sector ,

1:32:171:32:23

GDP expanded by 0.5%, driven

by growth in the services sector,

1:32:231:32:26

but the ONS said longer-term trends

were pointing to a slowdown.

1:32:261:32:29

In 2017 as a whole, growth

was 1.8%, the slowest rate

1:32:291:32:31

of expansion since 2012.

1:32:311:32:39

Nikki Campbell will take a pay cut.

Is one of several high-profile

1:32:441:32:49

presenters who have agreed formally

or in principle to reduce their pay.

1:32:491:32:52

The move comes after Carrie Gracie

resigned as the BBC's China editor

1:32:521:32:56

saying men and women doing similar

jobs were not paid the same. An

1:32:561:33:00

independent report on the issue is

due to be published next week.

1:33:001:33:04

Downing Street has distanced

itself from comments

1:33:041:33:06

made by the Chancellor,

Philip Hammond, after he said any

1:33:061:33:09

future change to the UK's relations

with the EU could be "very modest".

1:33:091:33:12

His remarks - during a speech

at the World Economic Forum -

1:33:121:33:15

were seized upon by Tory Leave

campaigners, and criticised

1:33:151:33:17

by a number of cabinet ministers.

1:33:171:33:18

Today, the Brexit Secretary,

David Davis, will give details

1:33:181:33:20

of the government's plans

for the transition phase after

1:33:201:33:22

the UK leaves the EU next year.

1:33:221:33:30

The Labour peer, Lord Mendelsohn,

has been sacked from his party's

1:33:301:33:33

front bench for attending

the controversial Presidents Club

1:33:331:33:35

charity fundraising event,

where women working as hostesses

1:33:351:33:38

were reportedly groped.

1:33:381:33:41

A Labour spokesman said

there could be no excuse

1:33:411:33:43

for anyone's attendance,

and Jeremy Corbyn had

1:33:431:33:45

asked him to step down.

1:33:451:33:46

Lord Mendelsohn said he went

to the event as president

1:33:461:33:49

of a charity that received support

from it, but did not witness any

1:33:491:33:52

of the alleged incidents,

which he condemned as "appalling".

1:33:521:33:57

A fire at a hospital in South Korea

has killed at least 37 people.

1:33:571:34:02

The blaze is reported to have

continued for several hours

1:34:021:34:04

after breaking out in the emergency

room of the building

1:34:041:34:07

in the southern city of Milyang.

1:34:071:34:08

Last month, 29 people died in a fire

at a fitness centre South Korea.

1:34:081:34:14

The NHS medicines watchdog has

issued new guidelines on how best

1:34:141:34:17

to treat sore throats,

in an attempt to cut

1:34:171:34:19

the use of antibiotics.

1:34:191:34:21

The guidelines from Nice -

the National Institute for Health

1:34:211:34:24

and Care Excellence -

say that most people only need

1:34:241:34:26

to take paracetamol,

despite antibiotics being prescribed

1:34:261:34:29

in 60% of cases.

1:34:291:34:32

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

1:34:321:34:35

Thank you, Anita.

1:34:391:34:40

Here's some sport now with Hugh.

1:34:401:34:43

Hello again. Six time champion Roger

Federer has made it through to the

1:34:431:34:46

final of the Australian Open. He was

taking on South Korea's Hyung Chung,

1:34:461:34:51

who suffered with severe blisters on

his feet during the match and then

1:34:511:34:55

the retiring when a set and 5-2 down

and Federer will defend his title

1:34:551:35:00

against Marin Cilic in Sunday's

showpiece. England lost their first

1:35:001:35:04

five wickets for just eight runs as

Australia Chasetown 196 to win the

1:35:041:35:09

fourth one-day international by

three wickets in Adelaide. England

1:35:091:35:12

lead the five match series 3-1. The

Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho

1:35:121:35:18

labelled new signing Alexis Sanchez

as one of the best attacking players

1:35:181:35:21

in the world. The Chilean could make

his debut at League 2 Yeovil Town in

1:35:211:35:25

the FA Cup fourth round later, live

on BBC One at 7:30pm. I know you

1:35:251:35:33

will be watching, Victoria. Pop quiz

on Monday. I look forward to that!

1:35:331:35:39

The Brexit Secretary will say later

that the UK will be able to

1:35:391:35:45

negotiate trade deals as soon as it

leaves the European Union, ie a

1:35:451:35:50

March next year. David Davis's

speech comes amid a Conservative

1:35:501:35:54

Party row over the Government's

approach to Brexit sparked by the

1:35:541:36:00

Chancellor Philip Hammond, who

called for the changes with the

1:36:001:36:04

relationship with the EU to be no

more than modest, which he said

1:36:041:36:07

yesterday at Davos where the great

and the good allegedly are. Leila

1:36:071:36:10

Nathoo is at Westminster. Let's talk

more about the reaction to what

1:36:101:36:16

Philip Hammond said, because it

wasn't long before No 10 slapped him

1:36:161:36:20

down, effectively.

There was a

pretty strong rebuke from No 10

1:36:201:36:25

saying that the position the

government is aiming for was

1:36:251:36:28

anything but modest changes, leaving

the Single Market and Customs union

1:36:281:36:32

after Brexit, but Philip Hammond

clarified those comments that he had

1:36:321:36:36

made earlier himself in a tweet

saying that he was restating the

1:36:361:36:39

Government's position, talking about

starting from a position of being

1:36:391:36:42

very closely aligned with the EU

now, and so therefore continuing

1:36:421:36:46

that same market access, which is

what everyone wants on this side. He

1:36:461:36:50

says that will mean that's the

change he was talking about. But I

1:36:501:36:55

think that the term very modest

provoked a pretty furious reaction

1:36:551:37:01

from Brexiteer is already feeling

frustrated with the Government's

1:37:011:37:04

approach to Brexit, many feel the

has-beens and drift and a lack of

1:37:041:37:08

clarity emanating from the top on

Brexit, the message has not been

1:37:081:37:12

restated clearly enough in recent

weeks. And then they are hearing the

1:37:121:37:16

Chancellor, who has made no secret,

his very much on the Remain side of

1:37:161:37:21

the argument and wants the UK to

stay closely aligned with Europe

1:37:211:37:24

after Brexit. That raised a lot of

hackles on the Tory backbenches. We

1:37:241:37:31

heard from Jacob Rees-Mogg, an

influential Tory backbencher, who

1:37:311:37:33

has recently become the Chernova

group of Eurosceptic Tory MPs, he

1:37:331:37:38

gave a speech last night strongly

criticising the Government's

1:37:381:37:41

approach to Brexit saying there had

been Coward by the EU talking about

1:37:411:37:46

a fundamental change of tone needed

and dismissing the idea of the sort

1:37:461:37:48

of closely aligning with the EU

after Brexit -- the chairman of a

1:37:481:37:54

group. You can see these divisions

erupting in the open again after

1:37:541:37:57

having been on the back burner for

some time so far.

Really

1:37:571:38:01

interesting. As you say, Jacob

Rees-Mogg last night saying that the

1:38:011:38:05

British people did not vote for the

management of decline, they voted

1:38:051:38:08

for hope and opportunity and

politicians must now deliver it.

1:38:081:38:12

Other backbench MPs confident to

publicly criticise Theresa May. As

1:38:121:38:17

you say, Sir Nicholas Soames Colin

Theresa May's vision dull, dull,

1:38:171:38:21

dull and Grant Shapps is calling for

her to demonstrate a big vision and

1:38:211:38:25

the temerity and lack of ambition

about Mrs May's government saying it

1:38:251:38:32

constantly disappoints. A call in

the Telegraph today suggesting that

1:38:321:38:36

the head of the Conservative

backbench committee, the 1922

1:38:361:38:40

committee, has received 40 letters

from Conservative MPs asking about a

1:38:401:38:43

leadership contest and apparently he

would need 48 to be duty-bound to

1:38:431:38:49

trigger one.

This is the formal

procedure by which any leadership

1:38:491:38:55

challenge would take place in the

Conservative Party, and there has

1:38:551:38:58

been nervousness and a bit of

renewed speculation over how many

1:38:581:39:05

backbenchers are disillusioned with

Mrs May's leadership. It is worth

1:39:051:39:09

saying this is still at the stage of

speculation. There was never going

1:39:091:39:13

to be any public comment about how

many letters or not the 1922 have

1:39:131:39:19

received. Although there is some

despondency about Brexit, there is

1:39:191:39:23

certainly some frustration among

Brexiteers in the Conservative

1:39:231:39:27

Party, that is being laid bare at

the moment, and frustration about

1:39:271:39:29

the transition period, and whether

that transition will actually be a

1:39:291:39:33

transition or not and whether it

will bleed on and the fear is among

1:39:331:39:37

Brexiteerss is that that will mean

staying in the EU much longer than

1:39:371:39:41

intended. There are certain fears

about that and fears about the state

1:39:411:39:44

and terms of travel about the Brexit

negotiations but the facts remain

1:39:441:39:50

the same since the election, no

matter what the attitude towards

1:39:501:39:54

Theresa May, the Conservative Party

does not want a leadership election

1:39:541:39:56

now because it would risk a general

election, they are still nervous

1:39:561:39:59

about the prospect of going up

against Labour again and there is no

1:39:591:40:04

obvious successor, no obvious

candidate to replace Theresa May.

1:40:041:40:07

Those facts remain the same as they

have been for some time but that

1:40:071:40:10

does not mean there is an

frustration bubbling under the

1:40:101:40:13

surface and it does not mean there

are not frustrations that will

1:40:131:40:15

periodically intensify and perhaps

get a few new supporters on the way

1:40:151:40:21

for any move to try and Alistair Mrs

May. In terms of anything

1:40:211:40:24

imminently, yes, this might be a

wobble and yes, the pressures from

1:40:241:40:29

both wings of her party but there is

not in any immediate trouble for

1:40:291:40:34

her yet.

Another week and other

sexual harassment scandal, this week

1:40:341:40:44

involving the men only Presidents

Club charity fundraising event where

1:40:441:40:48

women employed to work as hostesses

were reportedly groped and

1:40:481:40:52

propositioned. We have been hearing

your stories of sexual harassment

1:40:521:40:56

and gender distribution and unfair

pay. How do you get rid of it all?

1:40:561:41:08

No more secrets, get it all out on

the table, let's come clean with the

1:41:111:41:16

issues, move on, let's be inclusive

for the future.

The most important

1:41:161:41:20

thing that companies need to do is

create a pure, merit-based Tim so

1:41:201:41:25

that the women get confidence that

they would not be disconnected

1:41:251:41:28

against just on the basis of gender.

In China, most of us don't know what

1:41:281:41:33

sexual harassment is. I think it's

the company's obligation to educate

1:41:331:41:38

their employees. Sexual harassment

is wrong.

It's critical to transform

1:41:381:41:44

anger into action, and action has to

start at the top.

Some people have

1:41:441:41:51

been badly intended but I think the

real problem

1:41:511:41:57

real problem is we need to look of

this practice is better than we have

1:41:581:42:03

been.

Companies need to know that we

need them to be more modest, so they

1:42:031:42:09

need to be lifted up. To grow in the

ranks of companies.

It's very

1:42:091:42:14

important that companies create a

culture where women feel welcome,

1:42:141:42:19

safe and empowered.

Given the chance

to study anything she wants.

1:42:191:42:23

Businesses must recognise it is a

real issue, talk about it and then

1:42:231:42:26

do something about it.

There you go.

10:43am.

1:42:261:42:33

Russia could cause thousands and

thousands and thousands of deaths by

1:42:331:42:37

crippling UK infrastructure. That is

the warning from the Defence

1:42:371:42:41

Secretary Gavin Williamson who has

told the Daily Telegraph today that

1:42:411:42:46

Moscow was spying on energy

suppliers, which if cut, could cause

1:42:461:42:49

total chaos in this country. Let's

talk to our defence correspondent

1:42:491:42:54

Jonathan Beale who is here. What an

extra ordinary morning.

In language

1:42:541:42:59

that nobody else has used, and you

have to look at the context, there

1:42:591:43:05

have been warnings from senior

defence chiefs, from the Chief of

1:43:051:43:09

the Defence Staff Sir Stuart Peach,

who said that Russia was using

1:43:091:43:12

submarines to look at underwater

cables, carrying communication,

1:43:121:43:15

billions of pounds of trade

everyday. We have had their head of

1:43:151:43:20

the army warning about Russia being

a clear and present danger,

1:43:201:43:24

modernising its forces. What it has

been doing in Syria, and also the

1:43:241:43:29

use of what's called hybrid warfare,

asymmetric warfare, in other words

1:43:291:43:33

using cyber command now Gavin

Williamson has said this. I think

1:43:331:43:38

he's trying to make the point that

there is a threat to people's way of

1:43:381:43:43

life. They know, they believe that

Russia has been spying on British

1:43:431:43:51

infrastructure using satellites,

sending them over the country to

1:43:511:43:52

look at power stations and the

likes. That's translated to a line

1:43:521:43:57

in this interview with the Telegraph

where he says it could kill

1:43:571:44:00

thousands and thousands and

thousands of people. I think what he

1:44:001:44:04

wanted to say was essentially that

it's a threat to our way of life and

1:44:041:44:07

there is the potential that people,

if you lost power on the grid, that

1:44:071:44:12

people in hospitals could lose their

lives, what would happen to care

1:44:121:44:15

homes and the likes. You have to

look at this in the context of a

1:44:151:44:18

Defence Secretary trying to get more

money out of the Treasury but there

1:44:181:44:22

is also genuinely concerned within

the MoD about a more assertive

1:44:221:44:26

Russia.

This is the quote that

really stands out from Gavin

1:44:261:44:29

Williamson: the plan for the

Russians won't be for landing craft

1:44:291:44:33

to appear off the coast of

Scarborough or Brighton Beach, they

1:44:331:44:36

will be thinking, how can we cause

so much pain to Britain? Damage its

1:44:361:44:42

economy? Rip its infrastructure

apart? And so on. That is an

1:44:421:44:46

interview in the Daily Telegraph.

Meanwhile, in the Daily Mail another

1:44:461:44:49

story about Gavin Williamson with a

statement from her about a brief

1:44:491:44:53

office romance he had in 2004 when

he was married.

Yes, I suppose some

1:44:531:44:58

people will wonder if they are

connected. I think Gavin Williamson

1:44:581:45:01

was always going to do an interview

about Russia. He wants to highlight

1:45:011:45:05

the threat and that is why he has

allowed the Service Chiefs to go out

1:45:051:45:09

and talk about it. But there will be

people who will ask about the timing

1:45:091:45:14

of this interview, and whether it is

connected to another story, as you

1:45:141:45:17

say, about his private life, which

is, you know, mildly embarrassing.

1:45:171:45:23

He describes it as a dreadful

mistake in terms of his wife,

1:45:231:45:27

though.

Yes, and the colleague who

he had big romance with was also

1:45:271:45:30

married, this was before he became

an MP. There will be people who ask

1:45:301:45:35

if there is a connection here. The

truth is he wants to highlight the

1:45:351:45:38

threat from Russia, not least to get

more money for defence, but also

1:45:381:45:41

because he believes there is a

potential threat from Russia. But it

1:45:411:45:47

is a coincidence that we have this

other story about his private life

1:45:471:45:51

today as well.

Thank you, Jonathan

Beale, defence correspondent. Thank

1:45:511:45:55

you for your many, many comments

about Bradley Lowery. Bradley was

1:45:551:46:00

six when he died of the childhood

cancer neuroblastoma last summer.

1:46:001:46:06

Before his death the Sunderland fan

had struck up a friendship with the

1:46:061:46:10

club's then star striker Jermain

Defoe and their bond was so strong

1:46:101:46:13

the pair describe each other as best

friends. Next month Bradley's mum

1:46:131:46:18

Gemma, with Jermain Defoe's help,

will launch the Bradley Lowery

1:46:181:46:22

foundation. Gemma told us it's

helping her with her grief. with her

1:46:221:46:24

grief.

The whole thing of the

foundation has helped me deal with

1:46:241:46:29

my grief, because I get to help

other children and for me, that

1:46:291:46:34

helps us a lot. I get a lot of

support, I get amazing support, and

1:46:341:46:40

a lot of people do not get the

support they need. I am honoured

1:46:401:46:49

that I am still getting that support

and people are getting behind us,

1:46:491:46:53

but it helps with the grief,

definitely.

I know that you and your

1:46:531:46:57

husband and your boy, Kieran, went

away for Christmas, wherever you

1:46:571:47:02

work, would have been immensely

difficult, wouldn't it.

We made the

1:47:021:47:06

decision to go away because I could

not bear waking up on Christmas

1:47:061:47:09

morning...

1:47:091:47:14

We decided to go away,

it was a hard time.

1:47:281:47:31

But we got through it,

it was another day, and another

1:47:311:47:33

occasion, that we managed

to get through.

1:47:331:47:35

We thought, tomorrow is a new day,

let's go, let's continue

1:47:351:47:38

his legacy and let's

help other children.

1:47:381:47:46

When you think about Bradley,

you talked about many

1:47:591:48:01

special memories you had,

when you talk about him,

1:48:011:48:04

what comes into your mind?

1:48:041:48:05

The first thing that comes

into my mind was the first time I

1:48:051:48:08

met Brads at Sunderland,

when he ran over to me

1:48:081:48:10

in the changing rooms.

1:48:101:48:11

He was not like any of the other

children, they were quite reluctant

1:48:111:48:14

to come up to the players,

they were shy.

1:48:141:48:17

But he ran over to me, burst

across the changing rooms, he jumped

1:48:171:48:20

on my lap and stuff

like that, that is the

1:48:201:48:22

first time I met him,

1:48:221:48:23

bossed the changing room,

1:48:231:48:24

and after that,

it was really special.

1:48:241:48:26

Almost like a normal thing

after that, every game,

1:48:261:48:28

he would walk out with me,

a special moment, when I

1:48:281:48:31

got back into the England

squad and he will out

1:48:311:48:33

with me at Wembley, that

1:48:331:48:34

was a really special moment.

1:48:341:48:36

-- walked out with me at Wembley.

1:48:361:48:44

I have read that you said,

the first time he saw you,

1:48:531:48:56

it was the way that he looks at you,

what did you mean?

1:48:561:48:59

Yeah, I don't know...

1:48:591:49:00

I'm asked that question

all the time, it is hard

1:49:001:49:02

to explain, but it is the way

that he looked at me...

1:49:021:49:05

I knew in that moment

that he was really happy,

1:49:051:49:08

because I did not really understand,

too much, about the

1:49:081:49:10

cancer, at the time.

1:49:101:49:11

I knew that he was a Sunderland fan

and I was his favourite player

1:49:111:49:14

and stuff like that,

but, I mean, it is stuff that I have

1:49:141:49:18

done before but that moment

was completely different

1:49:181:49:19

to any other experience I have had

before with any other child.

1:49:191:49:23

The way that he looked

at me and like I said,

1:49:231:49:26

he jumped on my lap,

there was an instant

1:49:261:49:34

The foundation launches officially

as I said next month

1:49:361:49:41

with a fundraising gala,

part of your son's legacy,

1:49:411:49:43

what do you hope you will be able

to do for other sick children

1:49:431:49:46

with the money raised?

1:49:461:49:47

Hopefully we are going to support

other families and their fundraising

1:49:471:49:50

campaigns, his fundraising campaign

was extreme is successful,

1:49:501:49:52

we had support from the nation

and beyond and I would

1:49:521:49:54

like the nation to get beyond these

other children as well.

1:49:541:49:57

In regards to the fundraising

campaign, we must support

1:49:571:49:59

families emotionally,

during events, using social media,

1:49:591:50:01

anything that comes

with the fundraising aspect of it,

1:50:011:50:03

we will be there and we want

the personal touch,

1:50:031:50:06

we want to meet the families,

spend time with them.

1:50:061:50:08

We will also be giving grants

out to these families.

1:50:081:50:10

The foundation started with a decent

amount of money because of Bradley,

1:50:101:50:13

and we want to give that back

to the children.

1:50:131:50:21

We have a campaign going also,

this is to build a holiday home

1:50:241:50:27

for the sick children to be able

to go and enjoy some holidays,

1:50:271:50:30

because when you are stuck

in hospital a lot of the time,

1:50:301:50:33

your family is split apart,

you don't get to see your husband

1:50:331:50:36

or your other children,

1:50:361:50:38

and it is really nice to be able

to come away from that

1:50:381:50:41

and go away and have some

special bonding time

1:50:411:50:43

and make special memories.

1:50:431:50:49

It is all I've got left now.

1:50:491:50:51

I was extremely lucky to have

amazing memories with Bradley

1:50:511:50:54

and I want to be able to give that

to other families.

1:50:541:51:02

I want to ask you about one

particular teenage boy, 15, Alfie,

1:51:031:51:07

he has had neuroblastoma,

which is what Bradley had,

1:51:071:51:09

since he was three,

it keeps coming back.

1:51:091:51:15

He's tried to get access

to a particular antibody tribute

1:51:151:51:18

which would potentially

stimulate his own immune cells,

1:51:181:51:24

to attack the cancer.

1:51:241:51:30

But, it is very difficult

for patients in the UK to get this

1:51:301:51:35

unless it is done privately.

1:51:351:51:36

Is that the kind of thing

you want to focus upon?

1:51:361:51:39

This antibody is crucial

for children with neuroblastoma,

1:51:391:51:43

and a lot of children have been

lucky, but unfortunately there is no

1:51:431:51:47

trials planned for this.

1:51:471:51:53

So if children want this antibody,

1:51:531:52:01

in an individual funding request

into NHS England,

1:52:021:52:04

or fund raise for the

treatment themselves.

1:52:041:52:06

However, putting an individual

funding request into NHS England

1:52:061:52:08

is going to become difficult

when there are so many children

1:52:081:52:11

need this treatment.

1:52:111:52:19

The drug we are talking

about is under review with NICE.

1:52:251:52:31

Hopefully they will pass it

and the NHS will provide this drug.

1:52:311:52:34

With this drug they have a 20%

less chance of relapse,

1:52:341:52:37

there is an 80% chance of relapse

with neuroblastoma, everybody

1:52:371:52:39

knows that after Bradley.

1:52:391:52:40

Imagine having a child

going through horrendous

1:52:401:52:42

treatment on a daily basis,

1:52:421:52:43

to then have the fear of that coming

back and having to start again.

1:52:431:52:46

There's so many families

around the world

1:52:461:52:48

have to deal with this,

the last thing they need is to worry

1:52:481:52:51

about fundraising for a drug.

1:52:511:52:59

With 13 Oscar nominations,

including best picture,

1:53:131:53:16

best director and best

original screenplay,

1:53:161:53:21

Guillermo Del Toro's latest film

The Shape of Water

1:53:211:53:23

has received a lot of attention

1:53:231:53:24

as the front runner for this

years Academy Awards.

1:53:241:53:27

This morning, however,

the Guardian newspaper says

1:53:271:53:28

the family of a 1960s playwright has

accused the director of plagiarism.

1:53:281:53:31

Joining me is Alan Jones - film

critic and founder of the film

1:53:311:53:34

festival Fright Fest. He knows

Guillermo del Toro. He is a friend

1:53:341:53:37

of yours. Yes, he is. What is being

accused?

The son of Paul Tindall,

1:53:371:53:39

David, says that the shape of water

has plagiarised a 1969 plays turned

1:53:391:53:44

into a television film that his late

father wrote. -- Paul Zindel. On the

1:53:441:53:52

surface they are startlingly

similar, in the shape of water it is

1:53:521:53:55

a female cleaner who befriends a

fantasy creature, and wants to do

1:53:551:54:00

everything that she can to rescue

him from the research facility he is

1:54:001:54:04

trapped in. When you look at let me

hear you whisper, the name of the

1:54:041:54:09

play, it is almost the same, the

janitor befriends a dolphin, and

1:54:091:54:14

bonds with it so much that she wants

to free it back into the wild. On

1:54:141:54:20

the surface they look similar, but

knowing Guilermo del Toro as I do,

1:54:201:54:24

he comes from the same kind of fan

background as I do, if anything,

1:54:241:54:27

this is more like the creature of

the black lagoon -- the creature

1:54:271:54:32

from the black lagoon, this is his

re-shaping of that into a fantasy

1:54:321:54:36

form. But this is not the first time

this has happened, there has been a

1:54:361:54:42

short film, the space between us,

which has already said they have had

1:54:421:54:47

concerns about it being possibly the

same, but then the Netherlands film

1:54:471:54:53

Academy, who produced the film,

said, we do not agree that this 30

1:54:531:54:57

minute short is anything to do with

that. I don't think this will be the

1:54:571:55:02

last time, this is the third time,

anything that gets this much

1:55:021:55:06

attention, popular Oscar

nominations, people seem to crawl

1:55:061:55:09

out of the woodwork and say, I did

this, it is me. Not always, not

1:55:091:55:15

always. No, not always, of course.

This is the statement from 20th

1:55:151:55:20

Century Fox, Guillermo del Toro has

never read nor seen this play by

1:55:201:55:23

Paul Zindel in any form, the adult

horror has had a 25 year career

1:55:231:55:28

during which he has made ten feature

films and has always been very open

1:55:281:55:33

about acknowledging his influences.

If there are questions about his

1:55:331:55:39

original work, we welcome the

questions.

He is as much a fan as I

1:55:391:55:43

am and I have not seen it, and I am

one who would have done so. Perhaps

1:55:431:55:47

it is not that available, it

probably is available on video, I am

1:55:471:55:52

not sure how well-known it is. The

playwright did a couple of things,

1:55:521:55:56

was not that great. I have not seen

it, I am sure that the adult or has

1:55:561:56:01

not seen it, he has the utmost

integrity. I think he's going to be

1:56:011:56:08

really depressed about this, and

really shocked that somebody would

1:56:081:56:11

think that. He has such a great

reputation in Hollywood, people do

1:56:111:56:16

not think that way about him.

Looking at his fantasy work, so

1:56:161:56:20

extraordinary.

These similarities,

are they startling yes, but it is

1:56:201:56:27

one of those things, they always say

there is only seven stories in the

1:56:271:56:31

world, and I think this is the same

thing, it is a dolphin, in the

1:56:311:56:35

television show, it is actually a

black lagoon creature in the movie,

1:56:351:56:40

and so even that is different.

Next

we will expect Ron Howard to say

1:56:401:56:46

that Splash is the gender fluid

version(!) that will be the next

1:56:461:56:52

one.

LAUGHTER

Will this damage the Academy award

1:56:521:56:54

prospects?

The film is so beloved,

it is a masterpiece, I hope it wins

1:56:541:57:01

everything, I don't think this will

damage any prospect.

If you are on

1:57:011:57:08

set when he is filming, writing his

autobiography.

I have said some bad

1:57:081:57:12

things about some of these movies, I

am a critical friend, and I will

1:57:121:57:15

tell anyone which films I really

like.

You wonder, the Oscar judges,

1:57:151:57:22

they do not want any controversy

after what happened last year,

1:57:221:57:26

getting the best film wrong.

This is

the sort of thing that happens quite

1:57:261:57:32

often, and I don't think it will

make any difference to the prospects

1:57:321:57:35

of the film. Do you think it will

win? Best film, I would like it, the

1:57:351:57:43

genre needs this kind of lift, the

fantasy genre. We have a great

1:57:431:57:49

chance of winning, this or Get Out,

and I would like

1:57:491:57:54

it for Guillermo del Toro,

especially.

BBC newsroom live is

1:57:541:57:57

next, thank you very much for

watching, have a brilliant day and

1:57:571:58:01

an amazing weekend and we will see

you Monday.

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