15/02/2018 Victoria Derbyshire


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Hello it's Thursday, it's nine

o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

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welcome to the programme.

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At least 17 people have died

after a gunman opened fire at a high

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school campus in Florida.

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The suspect is a teenager

who was believed to have

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been an expelled pupil.

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It is one of the US'a deadliest

school attacks in recent years.

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Nikolas Cruz Nikolas Cruz,

I I was

like that's not a drill, we never

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did a drill like that?

How can this

happen, this is a state that is

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focussed on keeping all the children

safe. We come to the conclusion this

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is just absolutely pure evil.

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Bethany Shipsey was just 21

years old when she died

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on an A&E trolley at

Worcestershire Royal

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Hospital after taking

an overdose of diet pills.

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Yesterday a coroner ruled

that the care the hospital gave her

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There is a new warning today

processed foods could increase your

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chances of getting cancer. A team of

French reSerbsearchs have been

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looking at what they call ultra

processed foods. What are they, how

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dangerous are they? We will find out

in the next hour.

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Hello.

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Welcome to the programme,

we're live until 11 this morning.

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We will be joined by

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We

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TV presenter Jeff Brazier,

whose sons lost their mum,

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Big Brother star Jade Goody

from cervical cancer after she put

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off going for a smear test.

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she part of a cam main to get people

stop ignoring health symptoms and

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urging people to seek help earlier.

Talking to him just after 10.30.

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Do get in touch on all the stories

we're talking about this morning -

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use the hashtag Victoria Live,

and if you text, you will be charged

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at the standard network rate.

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Our top story today -

at least 17 people have been shot

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dead by a gunman at a high

school in Florida.

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Several other people

are in hospital with serious

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injuries, after the attack

at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas

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school in Parkland, near Miami.

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It's the eighteenth shooting

at an American school this year.

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Police have named the suspect

as 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz,

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a former student who had been

expelled.

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This was supposed to be one

of the safest communities

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in the country.

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In an instant, these students

became helpless targets,

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sheltering in place

and fearing for their lives.

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Officials now suggest this

was a well-planned plot to maximise

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the loss of life.

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Just moments before the end

of the school day, a former student

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reportedly pulled the fire alarm at

Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School

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to draw out his

unsuspecting victims.

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There had already been a drill

earlier in the day but confused

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teachers followed procedure

and began to exit the building.

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As soon the fire alarm got hold,

and kids were evacuating,

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I heard five pops.

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I was like, "That's not a drill."

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We never did a drill like that.

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When we started evacuating back

away towards the back,

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towards the the middle school,

I knew it was more than a drill

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because we've never done that.

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Armed with an AR-15 semiautomatic

rifle, he began firing outside

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and then continued inside the school

as panic and chaos erupted.

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Police were warning the shooter

was still at large, even

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as emergency workers rushed

to treat those wounded.

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SWAT teams evacuated

distressed students.

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In a row, some with hands

in the air, others clinging to each

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other for support,

they frantically rushed to safety.

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I see you, I see you, I see you!

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Parents, sick with,

worry, waited for news.

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The suspect was arrested

without incident an hour later

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in a neighbouring city.

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Police identified him as Nikolas

Cruz, who had been expelled.

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He was taken into custody,

I believe, about an hour

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after he left Stoneman Douglas,

after he committed this horrific,

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homicidal, detestable act.

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This is the 18th school shooting

in the United States this year.

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It's a uniquely American epidemic

that has only gotten worse.

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Yet this country is more

divided than ever on how

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to solve the problem.

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The Governor of Florida, Rick Scott,

said the shooting was pure evil.

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You're furious.

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How could this ever

happen in this country?

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How could this happen in this state?

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This is a state that is

focused on keeping all

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of our children safe.

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You come to the conclusion

this is just absolutely

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pure evil.

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This state is not

tolerating violence.

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We have law enforcement

that will always show up

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to defend our safety.

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I can't imagine the family,

wondering if they have lost a family

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member, they don't know. Those that

do know, I can't imagine how their

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lives have been changed.

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lives have been changed.

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We can cross live now

to Florida and talk

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to Laura Podesta who's in Parkland.

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Tell us what you some of the

survivors and parents have been

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saying about how they reacted when

they first heard shooting in their

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school.

Good morning Victoria, from

what we have eseen the survivors

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were just in shock, they, it was the

end of the school day, they know

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that the suspect pulled the fire

alarm in order to get people to

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leave the school quickly, it was

chaos because they didn't know if it

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was a real fire, then they heard

that pop, pop, sound. Then some

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teachers told students to just run,

so, we have seen images of students

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leaving the school with their arms

up, just trying to get to safety as

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quickly as possible.

What are people saying, and

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obviously it will be part of the

investigation, about the possible

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motivess for this former pupil to do

this?

Motives. Well, that is

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something that investigators are

going to be discussing with the

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suspects today. He is in police

custody. They have seen a trail on

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social media through Instagram, they

have seen this suspect with a gun,

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those photos have been taken down,

we presume by the family and

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replaced by messages of asking for

sympathy, and apologies by the

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family, but we know there was a

photo of this suspect holding a gun,

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and some violent messages that

investigators are going to be

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sorting through, over the next days

and weeks.

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And when Donald Trump, the President

says that every child and teacher

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and anybody who goes to school on a

daily basis deserves to be safe,

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what do people read into that? In

terms of the debate on gun

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legislation in America?

Well, I

think that the parents of the

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students who were involved in this

tragedy are going to read into that

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as the President is hopefully going

to be putting his foot down when it

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comes to gun control. But I think a

lot of people would read into that

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that maybe things need to change in

other way, maybe there needs to be

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more of a focus on mental illness.

Time will really tell when it comes

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to how the President's tweets are

interpreted.

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Thank you very much.

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We will have more in the morning.

Now the rest of the morning news so

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far.

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The ANC leader, Cyril Ramaphosa,

will be sworn in as South Africa's

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new president later today ,

following the resignation

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of Jacob Zuma.

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His nine years in office has been

marred by allegations

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of corruption and his own party,

the ANC had threatened to force him

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out with a vote of no confidence.

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Our Africa Editor,

Fegal Keane, reports.

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The moment of decision came late,

when the former guerrilla fighter

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at last recognised he could not win.

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President Jacob Zuma addressed

to the South African

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nation and faced reality.

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The ANC should never

be divided in my name.

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I have therefore come

to the decision to resign

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as president of the republic

with immediate effect.

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A populist, a crowd pleaser,

he appealed to the ANC grassroots

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and, with their backing,

became party leader in 2009.

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Even though he already faced

serious corruption charges,

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it was his relationship with this

family, the Guptas, Indian

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immigrants, that created the public

outrage that finally forced

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the ANC to act.

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The Guptas are accused

of using their connections

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with the president to acquire state

enterprises and assets

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worth millions of pounds.

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So powerful, it is alleged,

they could hire and fire

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cabinet ministers.

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By the end of this dramatic day,

Jacob Zuma seemed friendless

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and politically isolated.

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Resigning before he could be

humiliated in Parliament.

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Fergal Keane, BBC News.

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Zimbabwe's main opposition leader

and former Prime Minister Morgan

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Tsvangirai has died.

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He was 65 and had cancer.

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He founded the Movement

for Democratic Change,

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and his career was marked by a long

political struggle against former

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President Robert Mugabe.

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He had been beaten and

imprisoned numerous times.

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The consumption of highly-processed

foods, including cakes,

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chicken nuggets and mass-produced

bread is linked to the risk

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of cancer, according

to researchers in France.

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The study of more than one hundred

thousand people is published

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in the British Medical Journal.

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Experts have expressed caution,

but continue to advise eating

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a health balanced diet.

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a healthy balanced diet.

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The government has publicly blamed

Russian military intelligence

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for a cyber attack last year,

which affected businesses

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around the world.

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The Defence Secretary,

Gavin Williamson, said Russia

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was "ripping up the rule book

by undermining democracy

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and weaponising information".

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Russia has denied

responsibility for the attack.

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Sinn Fein is expected

to outline its next move today

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following the collapse

of negotiations to restore

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power-sharing at Stormont.

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Talks ended yesterday

when the Democratic Unionist Party

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said there was no prospect

of a deal.

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Both parties have been locked

in negotiations for 13 months.

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Oxfam has said it sacked its country

director in Haiti last

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year for mismanagement.

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The charity said Damien Berrendorf

had faced allegations

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of inappropriate behaviour,

but it said his dismissal was not

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related to sexual misconduct,

or the scandal in 2011 involving aid

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workers in Haiti paying

local women for sex.

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The consumers' association, "Which",

says faulty household appliances

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are causing about 60 fires every

week in the UK.

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It says a third of fires

are started by washing

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machines and tumble dryers.

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"Which" has written to ministers,

giving them 90 days to draw up

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a plan to address the issue.

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Dubious financial advisors exploited

former steel workers

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in a pensions mis-selling scandal

according to MPs.

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The Work and Pensions Select

Committee says it cost the people

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involved thousands of pounds,

and that the Financial Conduct

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Authority did too little to protect

them after the closure

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of the British Steel

Pension Scheme.

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More than a thousand driving bans

were issued in 2017 to children

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who were not legally old enough

to be behind the wheel of a car.

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Some youngsters, aged 12

were included in the ban,

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and the figure has risen by almost

50 %, over the past four years.

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The statistics were given

to the BBC under the Freedom

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of Information Act.

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The RAC describe the numbers

as "the tip of the iceberg".

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Differences in life expectancy

between the richest and poorest

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neighbourhoods have widened

according to a new report.

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The Longevity Science Panel found

that, a boy born in one of the most

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affluent areas such as St Albans

will outlive one born in one

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of the poorest such as Blackpool

by nearly eight and a half years.

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It's very unfair in our

society that the poor,

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particularly among the elderly,

are already quite disadvantaged

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in terms of income and all

kinds of other social

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and economic factors.

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And they're also more

likely than their richer

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counterparts to die early.

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That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30.

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Let's get some sport, with Hugh.

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The Wimbledon

Lots of debate about

-- winter Olympics, lots of debate

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about the suits the GB were wearing

in the skeleton.

We have had it with

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swims suit ands and cycle wheels.

The suits for skeleton have been

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causing a stir because of how well

the sliders have been doing in the

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training runs ahead of competition.

Questions have been asked,

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complaints made forcing the sports

governing body to confirm they are

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in fact legal. They have special

drag resistant ridges on these suit,

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the suggestion being made now it is

all a bit of mind games from the

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other teams trying to unsettle those

in the British team. The men's

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competition started today, Tom

Parsons is currently out for, within

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touching distance of a medal. He is

just 3 hundredths of a second from

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the bronze medal after two runs of

the four he will have in total. He

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says in the meantime between the two

final runs tomorrow he will chill

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out and read a book! Few mistakes on

the first run. Probably a bit of

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race tension, just ended up

overdriving a couple of bits and a

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bit off line, it is what it is, I am

still in the mix so I'll take that.

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The other thing so far on day six

the curling continues, so far today

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one win for the men, one defeat for

the women.

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Is And after the bad weather some

skiing action.

A host of

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postponement because of the weather

in South Korea, only one event had

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taken place before today, and it

eventually was the men's down hill,

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that has been postponed, got under

way, Norway's skier becoming the

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oldest alpine skiing champion at the

age of 35. His team-mate won silver

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with Switzerland's reigning World

Champion taking bronze. He was

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disappointed with the sparse crowd

at the alpine centre for the race.

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The women's Giant Slalom a nail you

will hear a lot, Mikaela Shiffrin

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won what she hopes will be a slope

load of golds. She did more than

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enough to win. She is back in the

slalom which she won in Sochi four

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years ago tomorrow.

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Man City had the record of the

biggest away win in the Champions

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League for 24 hours after their win

on Tuesday. Last night Liverpool won

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5-0 at Porto. Saadi and money became

the fourth Liverpool player in

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history to score a hat-trick -- Mane

became the fourth Liverpool player.

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An incredible kit. They have scored

an incredible 24 goals. Usually it

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is there to sell them, but I would

suggest, they should keep wearing

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it. The other much predicted to be

the try of the round, real Madrid

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against PSG, first leg, Madrid came

from behind thanks in part to the

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goal from Cristiano Ronaldo, his

100th of the club, he scored another

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from his knee, and PSG very much

relying on the two players that cost

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£350 million plus to get them back

into it in the second leg. A

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brilliant game. It will be a

brilliant second leg no doubt.

Thank

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you very much. Good morning. Back to

the top story.

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Just seven weeks into 2018

and America has witnessed its 18th

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school shooting this year -

the eighth in which school children

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have been killed or injured.

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This time it's a community

in Florida, recently named one

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of the safest in the country,

which has seen another

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mass shooting.

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At least 17 people have been

killed after a gunman

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opened fire with a rifle

at Marjory Stoneman

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Douglas High School.

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Police and Swat teams swarmed

the campus and began evacuating

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terrified students from the school,

about an hour north of Miami,

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as parents and ambulances

gathered on the scene.

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The footage shows students cowering

as gunshots ring out.

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In the panic, hundreds of students

took shelter in classrooms

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and cupboards while emergency

services methodically

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searched the school campus.

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Nikolas Cruz, a 19-year-old

former pupil who had been

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expelled from the school,

has been arrested.

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He is

has been arrested.

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He is in

has been arrested.

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He is in custody.

has been arrested.

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Police say the shooting has

devastated the community.

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We have a shooter in custody.

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He was taken into custody,

I believe, about an hour

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after he left Stoneman Douglas,

after he committed this horrific

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homicidal, detestable act.

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The FBI and our crime

scene people will

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begin processing this horrific scene

as soon

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as the buildings are cleared.

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Students and parents have been

describing what they saw.

That is

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not a drill, we have never done a

drill like that. We started

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evacuating towards the back, the

middle school, I knew it was more

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than a drill, we had never done

that.

We had to wait. We kept

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hearing shooting, we were not sure

if it was fireworks, shooting, then

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it was on the news and we found out

what was going on.

We literally just

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came from there, picking up kids

along the way, a lot of really

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distraught, as you can imagine. Just

terrifying. Terrifying for the

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parents of the kids, very emotional.

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The Governor of Florida, Rick Scott,

vowed to do everything

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in his power to ensure children

were safe at school.

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You're furious.

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How could this ever

happen in this country?

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How could this happen in this state?

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This is a state that is

focused on keeping all

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of our children safe.

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You come to the conclusion

this is just absolutely

0:19:200:19:23

pure evil.

0:19:230:19:25

This state is not

tolerating violence.

0:19:250:19:27

We have law enforcement

that will always show up

0:19:270:19:29

to defend our safety.

0:19:290:19:36

The shooting will reignite

the debate around tighter

0:19:360:19:37

gun control in the US.

0:19:380:19:40

Florida is now the scene of one

of the deadliest US school shootings

0:19:400:19:44

since the 2012 attack

at the Sandy Hook Elementary School

0:19:440:19:49

in Connecticut where 20 children

and six staff members were killed.

0:19:490:19:53

Chris Murphy is the Democratic

Senator for Connecticut.

0:19:530:19:57

He's made a passionate plea

for action to be taken

0:19:570:19:59

to prevent school shootings.

0:20:000:20:05

This happens nowhere else other than

the United States of America. This

0:20:050:20:11

epidemic of mass slaughter, this is

scourge of school shootings. It

0:20:110:20:25

happens here not because of

coincidence, not because of bad

0:20:250:20:30

luck, but it is a consequence of our

inaction. We are responsible. For a

0:20:300:20:42

level of mass atrocity that happens

in this country with zero parallel

0:20:420:20:45

anywhere else. As a parent, it

scares me to death that this body

0:20:450:20:54

does not take seriously the safety

of my children. It seems like a lot

0:20:540:21:01

of parents in South Florida will be

asking that same question later

0:21:010:21:04

today. We pray for the families, for

the victim 's. We hope for the best.

0:21:040:21:13

President Trump treated his

condolences, saying no child,

0:21:130:21:18

teacher, anyone is, they should

never feel unsafe in an American

0:21:180:21:21

school. It is not yet clear if he is

considering any change to a gun

0:21:210:21:26

legislation. We will get reaction

from the scene and the latest

0:21:260:21:30

through the morning of course. Next

today...

0:21:300:21:36

The parents of a 21-year-old

who died after taking illegal

0:21:360:21:39

weight-loss pills are warning

others not to take them.

0:21:390:21:42

Beth Shipsey died in February last

year after taking DNP tablets,

0:21:420:21:47

after an overwhelmed hospital

department failed to spot

0:21:470:21:50

the potentially fatal overdose.

0:21:500:21:54

An inquest which finished

yesterday concluded her care

0:21:540:21:58

at the Worcestshire Royal Hospital

was significantly sub-standard,

0:21:580:22:01

there were significant

failings in her care,

0:22:010:22:03

but evidence suggests

she would still have died.

0:22:030:22:08

The coroner also said

that he was going to write

0:22:080:22:10

to the Government calling

for the substance DNP to be banned.

0:22:100:22:14

DNP is an industrial chemical,

it's highly toxic and not intended

0:22:140:22:16

for human consumption.

0:22:160:22:19

It's sold illegally in diet pills

as a fat-burning substance.

0:22:190:22:24

Users experience a metabolism boost,

leading to weight loss,

0:22:240:22:28

but taking even a few

tablets can be fatal.

0:22:280:22:31

We can talk to Beth Shipsey's

parents, Carole and Doug,

0:22:310:22:33

in their first BBC interview.

0:22:330:22:38

Good morning to you. How do you

respond to the conclusion of the

0:22:380:22:43

coroner?

We do not agree with his

opinion. We felt that the evidence

0:22:430:22:54

heard in the inquest, the five

inquest, it does not reflect fully

0:22:540:22:58

his opinion.

How do you react, Doug?

The verdict of suicide, Beth did not

0:22:580:23:07

intend to take her own life, we

feel.

It was a miscalculation. A

0:23:070:23:13

huge mistake. Another cry for help.

She had taken overdoses before.

0:23:130:23:18

Equally surprised for help.

14

before, is that right?

That is

0:23:180:23:26

right, obviously a bit of a

nightmare for everyone concerned,

0:23:260:23:28

especially us as parents. So we are

disappointed that the verdict was

0:23:280:23:36

delivered as suicide when there is a

lot of evidence to suggest that it

0:23:360:23:42

was not the case, no suicide note,

her social media messages that Beth

0:23:420:23:49

had left that would indicate... But

she meant to be found and taken to

0:23:490:23:58

hospital and treated.

The coroner

did highlight significant failings

0:23:580:24:03

in her care at the Worcestershire

Royal Hospital, staff failed to

0:24:030:24:07

carry out checks on the drugs she

had taken, the department were not

0:24:070:24:11

familiar with the DNP drug and its

effects, they did not recognise

0:24:110:24:16

watching was experiencing was a

fatal overdose, they were clearly

0:24:160:24:21

overwhelmed, evidence from nurses

saying it was one of the most

0:24:210:24:25

challenging shifts they had been on,

yet the coroner said he still does

0:24:250:24:28

not think she would have survived,

hence him finding she had taken her

0:24:280:24:32

own life. How do you feel towards

the hospital?

The fact is, her blood

0:24:320:24:40

level of DNP following her death is

the lowest recorded worldwide and

0:24:400:24:46

people have survived with a higher

level that have had supportive care

0:24:460:24:53

and Beth had no care in the form and

a half hours she was there until she

0:24:530:24:59

had a cardiac arrest.

-- the for and

a half hours. The hospital say, we

0:24:590:25:04

are very sorry for the shortcomings

in her care, and they talk about the

0:25:040:25:09

series of improvements they have

made since. I want to talk to you

0:25:090:25:14

about DNP, I have been looking on

the NHS website, it makes it clear

0:25:140:25:18

it is illegal to sell it as a weight

loss drug and I wonder what you

0:25:180:25:22

think the Government should do now

about this substance.

The Food

0:25:220:25:28

Standards Agency crime prevention

unit have been doing their best to

0:25:280:25:32

close down websites and tackle

anybody selling this illegally in

0:25:320:25:35

the UK. Much of it comes from

overseas. The FSA's hands are tied

0:25:350:25:41

in what they can do, relying on

authorities in other countries. The

0:25:410:25:50

fact is, you can buy this today on

the internet if you look hard

0:25:500:25:54

enough. That is not acceptable. We

need the substance itself to be made

0:25:540:26:00

less or non-accessible to

unscrupulous people by either

0:26:000:26:06

banning the actual substance itself

or putting license controls over it

0:26:060:26:09

and make it much more difficult or

hopefully impossible for people to

0:26:090:26:15

get their hands on it, other than

industrial uses.

When you discovered

0:26:150:26:22

Beth had been taking these, what did

you think?

We were not aware until

0:26:220:26:26

the day before her death of the

potency and toxicity of the drug.

0:26:260:26:30

She had mentioned a few weeks before

she had bought some diet pills but

0:26:300:26:35

she was no longer taking them and

that that point we had no reason to

0:26:350:26:40

believe that they were anything

other than herbal diet pills that

0:26:400:26:47

people can buy from health shops.

What have you learnt about the

0:26:470:26:52

substance in the diet pills since?

Shocking how lethal and there is no

0:26:520:26:56

safe dose. People must not be

complacent. We believe Bethany did

0:26:560:27:02

not take 30 pills because of the low

blood level and also we know she did

0:27:020:27:07

not take that amount, we do not

people do think there is a safe

0:27:070:27:12

therapeutic dose, it is illegal and

dangerous.

What would you say, Doug

0:27:120:27:17

to anyone watching who might be

tempted to try something like this?

0:27:170:27:21

As I said in the introduction, it

increases metabolism leading to

0:27:210:27:25

weight loss, but it is a highly

toxic substance.

The people usually

0:27:250:27:31

attracted to take such substances as

this, girls or young woman with body

0:27:310:27:39

image issues or body-builders,

again, body image issues, so any

0:27:390:27:46

parent or partners or anyone

surrounding these people, be

0:27:460:27:51

vigilant. Do not buy such diet pills

over the internet. Be aware,

0:27:510:28:02

intervene, be proactive. Because an

envelope coming through the door

0:28:020:28:08

with pills in it could be a killer,

as it turned out to be in the case

0:28:080:28:13

for Beth and others before.

And it

was exactly a year ago your daughter

0:28:130:28:18

died.

Yes, this evening will be the

first anniversary.

How do you mark

0:28:180:28:24

that? How do you cope with that? How

do you remember her?

This evening we

0:28:240:28:31

will spend our time with immediate

family and... We will be lighting a

0:28:310:28:38

candle at the time of death.

The

difficulty is we are starting to

0:28:380:28:47

relive what Beth was doing that day

because a year ago today she was

0:28:470:28:51

still alive and the what ifs, could

we... All of the questions going

0:28:510:28:57

through powerhead has each minute

passes through the day. Tonight will

0:28:570:29:02

be particularly difficult when it

comes to the time we know she

0:29:020:29:06

arrested -- going through powerhead.

What do you want her legacy to be?

0:29:060:29:12

We want the legacy to be the banning

or control of the substance so no

0:29:120:29:17

one else dies from it.

Unfortunately, we are where someone

0:29:170:29:21

already has. Also, the hospitals,

they are overwhelmed, so busy, they

0:29:210:29:27

just did not have the time to apply

what they would normally in

0:29:270:29:33

treatment for Beth that night. The

accident and emergency departments

0:29:330:29:37

need more funding. It is

unacceptable in a first world

0:29:370:29:46

country to have Third World

circumstances in the A&E

0:29:460:29:49

departments.

Thank you very much for

talking to us. We appreciate how

0:29:490:29:55

difficult it was for you and we

appreciate your time as well. Coming

0:29:550:30:03

up...

0:30:030:30:07

It many not come as a surprise that

scientists have found a link

0:30:070:30:10

between highly-processed

foods and cancer rates,

0:30:100:30:12

but how seriously should

we take this latest study?

0:30:120:30:14

And we'll catch up with team GB

bobsleigher Mica McNeil who has

0:30:140:30:17

sent us her latest video diary

from the Winter Olympics.

0:30:170:30:24

Time for the latest news.

0:30:240:30:25

Here's Annita McVeigh.

0:30:250:30:26

The BBC News headlines this morning.

0:30:260:30:31

At least 17 people have been shot

dead by a gunman at a high school in

0:30:310:30:36

Florida. Others are in hospital with

serious injuries following the

0:30:360:30:43

attack near Michael Schumacher my.

It is the 18th shooting at an

0:30:430:30:46

American school this year. Police

have named the suspect at

0:30:460:30:49

19-year-old Nikolas Cruz, a former

student who had been expelled. It

0:30:490:30:57

was the end of school day, they know

that the suspect pulled the fire

0:30:570:31:01

alarm to get people to leave the

school quickly, so it was a lot of

0:31:010:31:05

chaos because they didn't know if it

was a real fire or not. All of a

0:31:050:31:08

sudden they heard that pop, pop, pop

sound. Some teachers told students

0:31:080:31:15

to run, so we have seen images

leaving the school with their arms

0:31:150:31:20

up, trying to get to safety as

quickly as possible.

0:31:200:31:23

quickly as possible.

0:31:230:31:24

The ANC leader, Cyril Ramaphosa,

will be sworn in as South Africa's

0:31:240:31:27

new president later today,

following the resignation

0:31:270:31:29

of Jacob Zuma.

0:31:290:31:30

Mr Zuma's time in office has been

marred by allegations of corruption,

0:31:300:31:33

and his own party, the ANC had

threatened to force him out

0:31:330:31:36

with a vote of no confidence.

0:31:360:31:37

In a televised statement he said

he was quitting with immediate

0:31:370:31:40

effect but said he disagreed

with his party's decision.

0:31:400:31:50

The consumption of highly-processed

foods, including cakes,

0:31:510:31:52

chicken nuggets and mass-produced

bread is linked to the risk

0:31:520:31:55

of cancer, according

to researchers in France.

0:31:550:31:56

The study of more than one hundred

thousand people is published

0:31:560:31:59

in the British Medical Journal.

0:31:590:32:00

Experts have expressed caution,

but continue to advise eating

0:32:000:32:02

a healthy balanced diet.

0:32:020:32:09

The government has publicly blamed

Russian military intelligence

0:32:090:32:11

for a cyber attack last year,

which affected businesses

0:32:110:32:13

around the world.

0:32:140:32:15

The Defence Secretary,

Gavin Williamson, said Russia

0:32:150:32:16

was "ripping up the rule book

by undermining democracy

0:32:160:32:18

and weaponising information".

0:32:180:32:19

Russia has denied

responsibility for the attack.

0:32:190:32:26

Sinn Fein is expected

to outline its next move today

0:32:260:32:28

following the collapse

of negotiations to restore

0:32:280:32:30

power-sharing at Stormont.

0:32:300:32:31

Talks ended yesterday

when the Democratic Unionist Party

0:32:310:32:33

said there was no prospect

of a deal.

0:32:330:32:35

Both parties have been locked

in negotiations for 13 months.

0:32:350:32:43

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

0:32:430:32:47

To leave the school quickly, so it

was a lot of chaos because they

0:32:470:32:50

didn't know if it was a real fire or

not. All of a sudden they heard that

0:32:500:32:53

pop, pop, pop sound. Some teachers

told students to run, so we have

0:32:530:32:56

seen images leaving the school with

their arms up, trying to get to

0:32:560:32:59

safety as quickly as possible.

Hugh is back with the latest sport.

0:32:590:33:01

The British skeleton slide Serb Dom

parsons is in the medal hunt after

0:33:010:33:04

two of his four runs, he is 3

hundredth of a second outside the

0:33:040:33:06

bronze medal position with his two

final runs coming up tomorrow.

0:33:060:33:09

Elsewhere Team GB's men's curlers

bounced back to win their match this

0:33:090:33:12

morning against Japan. The winning

stone was the final stone of the

0:33:120:33:17

final end. The women lost to the USA

but they are back on the ice at

0:33:170:33:22

11.00 against China. The American

skier Mikaela Shifrin wons the hopes

0:33:220:33:29

of what she thinks will be a handful

of golds. It is her weakest

0:33:290:33:34

discipline so expect more from her

in the coming day end Liverpool

0:33:340:33:40

hammer Porto 5-0 in the last 16 tie

in Portugal. Maine scoring a

0:33:400:33:46

hat-trick in a away record knock out

victory for the club in a

0:33:460:33:49

competition.

More after 10.00.

0:33:490:33:55

Now, after weeks of speculation,

growing claims of corruption,

0:33:550:33:57

raids against wealthy friends,

and a party increasingly

0:33:570:33:59

united against him,

South Africa's President Zuma has

0:33:590:34:01

finally stepped down.

0:34:010:34:02

He was one of the foot soldiers

of the anti-apartheid movement

0:34:020:34:05

which saw Nelson Mandela rise

to power in the 90s.

0:34:050:34:07

But once in office, allegations

of corruption and nepotism turned

0:34:070:34:09

South Africans against him.

0:34:090:34:10

Now, his rival and the man the ANC

party want to replace him,

0:34:100:34:13

will be sworn in today.

0:34:140:34:23

Our correspondent Pumza Fihlani

is in Johannesberg.

0:34:230:34:28

In the end, he, mine he fought and

fought and fought, didn't he, but in

0:34:280:34:33

the end he did do it?

He certainly

did, and he really left that right

0:34:330:34:40

down to the wire, Victoria, with

like an hour to go, before the

0:34:400:34:46

deadline of midnight. He tendered

his resignation, we have received is

0:34:460:34:49

word a few moments ago that he has

handed officially his letter to the

0:34:490:34:54

speaker of Parliament in Cape Town,

so it is official now, he is no

0:34:540:34:58

longer President of South Africa,

which then begins the process for

0:34:580:35:02

the African National Congress as you

said, there to table a sitting that

0:35:020:35:08

will elect the new President and

Cyril Ramaphosa ises poised to the

0:35:080:35:12

man to take over from him. That is

if opposition parties are also

0:35:120:35:17

agreed on the ANC's preferred

candidate.

How will Cyril Ramaphosa

0:35:170:35:22

be different?

He certainly has been

more vocal, especially in the last

0:35:220:35:29

few months, in the run up just after

his election, as party President. He

0:35:290:35:33

has been very vocal about reclaiming

South Africa's dignity in the world,

0:35:330:35:38

but also, reclaiming the country

back from people he says have used

0:35:380:35:44

the close relationships with the

President and people in power to

0:35:440:35:46

loot the state. He has promised to

stamp out corruption, he has

0:35:460:35:51

promised to create an environment

that is favourable for investment.

0:35:510:35:55

There has been fears here, for a few

years, that Jacob Zuma's government

0:35:550:36:00

was uncertain and that threatened

investment here, he has promised to

0:36:000:36:04

stabilise things but also to find a

which of reigniting the economy that

0:36:040:36:09

it creates jobs for young people

here, so it is a very big order he

0:36:090:36:13

needs to fulfil, but South Africa's

-- South Africans are at a point

0:36:130:36:17

where they want somebody who is

going to deliver. They have seen

0:36:170:36:21

what democracy can bring when people

come together. So it is a big task

0:36:210:36:25

he had ahead of them. He they are

not going to take him as face value.

0:36:250:36:29

Thank you.

0:36:290:36:39

We already know that processed

foods such as cakes,

0:36:410:36:43

crisps and ready meals often have

high levels of sugar,

0:36:430:36:53

Study was conducted on 150,000

French adults and we measured their

0:36:560:37:01

dietary consumption and the study

was about the association between

0:37:010:37:06

the ultra processed food consumption

and the risk of developing cancer,

0:37:060:37:10

what we observed here, was that when

people increased their share of

0:37:100:37:16

ultra processed food in the diet, a

10% increased we observered is an

0:37:160:37:25

11% risk and a 12% risk in breast

cancer.

0:37:250:37:35

But just how significant

is this news - and should

0:37:350:37:37

we change our life styles?

0:37:370:37:39

Here to tell us a bit more

is Cancer Research's lead UK health

0:37:390:37:42

expert Sarah Williams.

0:37:420:37:43

The kind of ultra processed foods we

are talking about include what?

It

0:37:430:37:45

is a massive list. So crisp,

packaged sweets, snack, mass

0:37:450:37:51

produced breads and cakes but not

cakes that are made for example at

0:37:510:37:59

home and bakery, meatballs, nugget,

anything that is high in fat, salt,

0:37:590:38:02

sugar it is really very broad.

It is

to do with the high levels of 2359,

0:38:020:38:09

salt and sugar or could it be be to

do with additives. They say they

0:38:090:38:15

don't know, they are not creating a

cause there, they are just saying we

0:38:150:38:19

see this, we are suggesting there is

a link, we are eat morgue of these

0:38:190:38:22

foods and that could mean that over

time there will be more cancer, so

0:38:220:38:26

the figure they have come up with

saying at the minute they think the

0:38:260:38:29

people they studied ate about 18% of

their diet, was made of this ultra

0:38:290:38:33

processed food, they are saying we

are increasing that, if we increase

0:38:330:38:37

it by 10%, they think that that will

cause another nine cancer for every

0:38:370:38:42

100,000 people a year. How big is

this study. There are some who are

0:38:420:38:46

expressing caution about it?

It is a

large study. It is 105,000 people.

0:38:460:38:55

It tracked them five years but it is

ongoing, the researches admit there

0:38:550:38:59

are things they haven't managed to

take into account. That I have tried

0:38:590:39:03

to weigh their data against thing

like people smoking, whether or not

0:39:030:39:07

people exercise, whether they have

high calorie diets overall or will

0:39:070:39:11

if they take the pill. They can't

exclude that. Then there is the

0:39:110:39:15

thing about how broad that

definition of ultra processed food

0:39:150:39:17

is. So, the thing that it doesn't

for example include artisan breads,

0:39:170:39:23

so there are...

Who what is an

artisan bread?

Anything made in a

0:39:230:39:29

posh bakery or at home.

That is all

right?

They aren't included in this

0:39:290:39:33

study. Even though it's a large

study the researchers saying more

0:39:330:39:37

needs to be done to see what the

cause is here.

And that is a really

0:39:370:39:41

key point, is it not, because the

people who experienced higher rates

0:39:410:39:47

of cancer could be living unhealthy

lifestyles any away, could be

0:39:470:39:52

smoker, all sorts of things could be

going on. On. The study noticed and

0:39:520:39:57

the researchers mentioned this that

the people who were eating the most

0:39:570:40:00

ultra processed is foods tended to

have unhealthy lifestyleses in other

0:40:000:40:04

way, being more likely to be smokers

and less like will he to be

0:40:040:40:09

physically active. This is a

different way of locking at diet and

0:40:090:40:14

cancer, we tend to look at nutrients

or attives and take a bottom up

0:40:140:40:20

approach. This is top down, to that

is good because people heat a whole

0:40:200:40:24

diet, on the other hand as we have

said the limitation is we can't tell

0:40:240:40:28

what within this massive bucket of

ultra processed foods could be

0:40:280:40:32

causing a problem and whether that

is down to nutrients or weight gain

0:40:320:40:36

or if will is something else. It is

a key piece of initial research we

0:40:360:40:39

can build on. Sure, OK.

But I mean, in the future, with more

0:40:390:40:45

research, they might be able to

point to a particular additive or

0:40:450:40:49

the way you know, a cop pound is

made when they are doing the cooking

0:40:490:40:53

process. -- compound.

It is possible

that could happen. That would be

0:40:530:40:58

useful information, particularly so

people can be aware of what they are

0:40:580:41:01

doing, but to inform how our food is

made, we do buy a lot of processed

0:41:010:41:06

food, I think it is in some ways

part of modern life, we are busy,

0:41:060:41:11

one of the key things in this area

is reform lacing of products so we

0:41:110:41:15

know with things like the sugar Levy

coming in with fizzy drink, that has

0:41:150:41:19

been seen to have an effect in terms

of manufacturers reducing sugar, if

0:41:190:41:25

we can find other things within

food, sugar or chemicals that can be

0:41:250:41:31

reduced so there is less than in the

first place.

Should people cut out

0:41:310:41:36

ultra process food from their diet?

On the basis of this study I think

0:41:360:41:39

that is going a bit too far, on the

other hand, we do know as we have

0:41:390:41:45

said things like crisps and chips

and cake, we know they are not

0:41:450:41:49

things to be good to be eating a lot

the time. It is about cutting down,

0:41:490:41:53

there are lots of other good reason,

we know they increase the risk of

0:41:530:41:58

weight gain and we know obesity

loads to cancer and other Serbses

0:41:580:42:01

you diseases.

Is the being

overweight, is that more of a risks

0:42:010:42:06

for developing cancer than what we

can take from this study?

I would be

0:42:060:42:11

more concerned is personally from

ultra processed foods via weight

0:42:110:42:15

rather than a accuse direct link.

What is the difference between ultra

0:42:150:42:20

processed food and processed food?

People want to know, I am confused,

0:42:200:42:24

tell me what I shouldn't eat, what I

should eat.

It is a tricky one, this

0:42:240:42:29

study basically divided people's

diets into four buckets and it did

0:42:290:42:33

that based on a previous piece of

research, the buckets go from fresh

0:42:330:42:38

foods, things like fresh fruit and

veg, frozen fruit and veg as well.

0:42:380:42:43

Right through to ma processed foods,

it is defined based should be much

0:42:430:42:48

sort of interference has been

happening in the foods before they

0:42:480:42:51

get on your plate. But it is a broad

definition and as we have mentioned

0:42:510:42:56

there are some things that seem a

little bit strange looking at it

0:42:560:43:00

from a public point of view, like

what type of bread is OK, but it is

0:43:000:43:04

more to do with how it has been

divided up. I won't put emphasis on

0:43:040:43:09

the specific foods. It is a big

group, and it is not to say those

0:43:090:43:14

foods particularly are especially

worrying or dangerous to people.

But

0:43:140:43:17

you would say wouldn't you, just

exercise more, and eat more fruit

0:43:170:43:20

and veg.

More fruit and veg, more

fibre, less red processed meat, cut

0:43:200:43:26

down on calories.

One feet this

people want the try living on a

0:43:260:43:33

healthy diet on a low income. I know

you hear that a lot

It is a huge

0:43:330:43:37

problem, there is is a real limit as

to what people themselves can do in

0:43:370:43:41

terms of healthy diet and managing

their weight. Because simply we can

0:43:410:43:45

only buy what is in the shop, we

can't control what is marketed to

0:43:450:43:49

us. As well as people have the

information and the advice to make

0:43:490:43:52

healthy choices where they can, this

is why it is important that industry

0:43:520:43:56

play a role in reform lacing, and

the Government really step up and

0:43:560:43:59

play a role as well. So the sugar

Levy but what Cancer Research would

0:43:590:44:04

like to see is further restrictions

on junk food marketing. So we would

0:44:040:44:11

be calling on the Government to

introduce a watershed to reduce the

0:44:110:44:17

amount of advertising children are

see, we know it leads them to

0:44:170:44:20

consume more of these foods.

Is

Thank you very much.

0:44:200:44:28

We'll hear some harrowing accounts

from children living in war zones,

0:44:280:44:31

which tragically has increased

by more than three quarters

0:44:310:44:33

over the past 30 years.

0:44:330:44:34

We will hear what life is like for

some of these children before 10.00.

0:44:340:44:39

It's day six of the Winter

Olympics in South Korea.

0:44:390:44:45

So far Team GB have yet to feature

on the podium. There is a chance who

0:44:450:44:54

will get one tomorrow. Over the

duration of the Games, Team GB Mica

0:44:540:45:03

McNeill, a bobsleigh, has been

keeping a video diary for us of her

0:45:030:45:09

experience.

0:45:090:45:12

Here's her latest extract.

0:45:120:45:15

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0:45:150:45:20

Hi, guys.

0:45:250:45:32

It's Mica McNeill,

Team GB bobsleigh pilot

0:45:320:45:33

out here in South Korea

at the Pyeongchang 2018

0:45:330:45:36

Winter Olympic Games.

0:45:360:45:41

We've now been here for two weeks

and official training

0:45:410:45:44

is coming up really,

really soon, which we

0:45:440:45:45

are so excited for.

0:45:450:45:46

We're actually in

Seoul at the moment.

0:45:460:45:48

But I'll give you a little recap

of how our two weeks have been.

0:45:480:45:54

We got here in Seoul

at the National Sport University

0:45:540:45:58

to get some training done,

get over jet lag and what not,

0:45:580:46:01

before we went into

the Olympic Village.

0:46:010:46:05

When we got there,

that was an absolutely incredible,

0:46:050:46:07

incredible feeling.

0:46:070:46:08

It was a two-hour bus journey

across the country and then

0:46:080:46:13

we arrived and you walk

through and you see all the flags

0:46:130:46:16

and all the other nations.

0:46:160:46:17

We had great fun

while we were there.

0:46:170:46:20

We have the flag raising ceremony,

we had the Team GB reception,

0:46:200:46:28

where we got to dress up

in our fancy suits and meet

0:46:280:46:30

her Royal Highness Princess Anne.

0:46:300:46:33

And we had the opening

ceremony, which was amazing.

0:46:330:46:35

We didn't actually stay

there for the whole time.

0:46:350:46:38

We went and stayed in the warm tent

and got to walk out behind the flag,

0:46:380:46:42

which was an absolute honour

and such a proud moment for any

0:46:420:46:45

athlete, but then we actually went

straight on the bus and went home,

0:46:450:46:48

because we didn't want to get

cold and tired as we had

0:46:480:46:51

training the next day

and we are still preparing.

0:46:510:46:53

But it wasn't all fun

in the village.

0:46:530:46:56

We had some 5am wake-up

calls to go sliding,

0:46:560:47:00

which was actually my first time

down the Olympic track.

0:47:000:47:02

I'd never driven it before.

0:47:020:47:04

So I've had four runs now.

0:47:040:47:05

I'm getting to grips with it.

0:47:050:47:06

I've got some fine tuning to do,

but it's such a fun

0:47:060:47:09

track and I absolutely,

absolutely loved it.

0:47:090:47:12

So the sled got there all safe.

0:47:120:47:16

But our village is amazing,

and our block, Team GB have made it

0:47:160:47:19

so homely and done a great job.

0:47:190:47:21

The food's fantastic.

0:47:210:47:22

So you might be wondering why

we're back in Seoul.

0:47:220:47:27

There's a couple of viruses

going around the village,

0:47:270:47:33

which we don't want to catch,

and we wanted to just take ourselves

0:47:330:47:36

away from that environment

of everything being 100 mph

0:47:360:47:38

all the time and get some

serious sessions put down.

0:47:380:47:41

We're a week out from our

competition now and we're

0:47:410:47:43

here in Seoul with a gym

to ourselves and a running

0:47:430:47:46

track to ourselves.

0:47:460:47:48

We're not fighting 1000 athletes

for equipment in the village.

0:47:480:47:53

But I will say, I'm so,

so excited to get back

0:47:530:47:55

to the village later on today.

0:47:550:48:05

Our bus leaves at four from here

so that's a wrap for our holding

0:48:050:48:08

camp and I'm absolutely buzzing

for the official training to start

0:48:080:48:11

on the 17th and for our competition

on the 20th and 21st.

0:48:110:48:14

And we'll continue to follow her

story over the next week or so.

0:48:140:48:17

The number of children living

in a war zone has increased

0:48:170:48:19

by more than three quarters

in the past three decades.

0:48:190:48:22

More than 350 million kids now live

in areas of conflict -

0:48:220:48:28

that's over a third of a billion

children, or around six times

0:48:280:48:31

the population of the UK.

0:48:310:48:32

And it's up from around

200 million in the early 1990s.

0:48:320:48:38

Let's hear some of the experiences

of children from warzones

0:48:380:48:41

around the world.

0:48:410:48:43

"They hit me in the face with a gun,

kicked me in my chest and stamped

0:48:430:48:47

on my arms and legs.

0:48:470:48:48

Then I was raped."

0:48:480:48:53

Another said...

0:48:580:49:04

Another child...

0:49:040:49:10

Those are just three stories

from three different children caught

0:49:100:49:13

up in conflict zones

around the world.

0:49:130:49:16

The new report from Save

the Children out today suggests kids

0:49:160:49:19

are being used as suicide bombers,

and that schools and hospitals

0:49:190:49:21

are being targeted by cluster bombs.

0:49:210:49:23

Let's look at the experience of one

persecuted minority.

0:49:230:49:28

Since August, 2017, more than half

a million Rohingya Muslims have fled

0:49:280:49:31

Myanmar for neighbouring Bangladesh.

0:49:310:49:36

Two months ago two armed men stormed

into our house. I was there with my

0:49:420:49:47

two daughters. One is 16 and the

other is 12. They beat and kicked me

0:49:470:49:52

and threw me out of my house and

they raped both of my daughters.

0:49:520:49:56

Even the youngest one. She has not

even reached puberty yet. When they

0:49:560:50:03

were finished, they came out of the

house and started shooting at

0:50:030:50:06

people. I saw them killed two men, a

bullet missed me by a few inches. I

0:50:060:50:13

ran back into the house. I took my

daughters by their hands and we ran

0:50:130:50:17

away as fast as we could. My

daughters were in a state of shock.

0:50:170:50:22

It took us two days to get to

Bangladesh. They are still

0:50:220:50:26

suffering. One of them feels

constantly in and weak and the other

0:50:260:50:32

one has a Domino and back pain. They

feel really a shame talking about

0:50:320:50:38

what happened and they are worried

no one will want to marry them when

0:50:380:50:42

they are older than now they have

been raped.

0:50:420:50:48

With us is George Graham

from Save the Children,

0:50:480:50:50

Doaa Kutbi who is a doctor in Yemen

for the International Medical Corps,

0:50:500:50:53

and Nikita Malik, who researches

the way children are used

0:50:530:50:59

in conflict for the Henry Jackson

Society, which is a think tank that,

0:50:590:51:02

according to its website,

works to combat extremism,

0:51:020:51:04

to advance democracy

and real human rights.

0:51:040:51:08

Thank you all for talking to us. I

will start in Yemen with Doaa, what

0:51:080:51:14

is it like for parents trying to

bring up children in parts of Yemen?

0:51:140:51:24

Unfortunately, my country is

suffering a lot nowadays, especially

0:51:240:51:28

the health system. In 2018... 18.8

million that the dog the

0:51:280:51:48

population... As a mother of two

kids, both of them need medical

0:51:480:51:58

help, as a doctor, as a mother, a

regular, monthly income. But what

0:51:580:52:06

about those who do not? Even if they

tried their best, nowadays, in my

0:52:060:52:12

country, my country is now reporting

one of the top countries with a

0:52:120:52:18

crisis in the world. Nowadays, we

are in Yemen suffering through a lot

0:52:180:52:23

of outbreaks, endemic with critical

diseases like malaria, polio, and

0:52:230:52:31

now a diphtheria outbreak, cholera

outbreak, as a mother, I'm afraid to

0:52:310:52:38

let my children go out from home.

And visitors, I'm suspicious

0:52:380:52:43

sometimes, but what can I do? We

will try. As a humanitarian worker,

0:52:430:52:49

I try my best to change some...

I

will bring in George, if I may.

0:52:490:52:59

Thank you, Doaa. George from Save

the Children who have done the

0:52:590:53:03

report. We can clearly hear the

difficulties of a mum, who is a

0:53:030:53:08

doctor, trying to bring up children

in a conflict zone. Can you give us

0:53:080:53:12

examples of the way children are

affected and used in conflict zones?

0:53:120:53:17

Certainly. One of the most

depressing findings in this very

0:53:170:53:21

depressing report is the number of

children killed and maimed has gone

0:53:210:53:26

up three times its 2010 according to

UN reports, kids being injured,

0:53:260:53:31

lifelong disabilities. Part of the

reason is conflict is increasingly

0:53:310:53:34

happening in cities, another piece

of research with Imperial College we

0:53:340:53:38

are doing, looking at how children's

bodies are uniquely vulnerable to

0:53:380:53:44

blast injuries, more at risk to

adults. Recruitment of children into

0:53:440:53:52

Armed Forces, sexual violence

against children, adoption of

0:53:520:53:55

children. Another very stark finding

is that the numbers of people being

0:53:550:54:01

denied humanitarian aid has gone up

15 times, starving, not getting

0:54:010:54:09

health care because parties to

conflict are deliberately preventing

0:54:090:54:12

aid from reaching them.

Which is

absolutely shocking and scandalous.

0:54:120:54:17

Completely shocking. We talk

about... We have called this report

0:54:170:54:22

the war on children, one of the

biggest alt on time and we are

0:54:220:54:26

trying to raise awareness -- one of

the biggest outrages of our time.

0:54:260:54:34

Literally millions of children whose

lives are being destroyed

0:54:340:54:37

preventively so that is what we need

to look at.

How did terrorists use

0:54:370:54:43

children in war zones, Nikita?

This

is one of the things that has been

0:54:430:54:49

increasing, and incredibly effective

strategy. A number of international

0:54:490:54:52

conventions prevent the use of

children by Armed Forces but

0:54:520:54:57

terrorists will use children

precisely because it disarms the

0:54:570:55:01

individuals facing these children.

And we see multiple levels of

0:55:010:55:06

exploitation so children are used

for child labour, often trafficked,

0:55:060:55:11

sexually abused, and they tend to

listen to authority and not question

0:55:110:55:15

it and what we see in conflict zones

in particular is that the children

0:55:150:55:19

are joining these groups for things

as simple as food, a stable income,

0:55:190:55:24

and with the case of Islamic State,

and non-state armed groups in the

0:55:240:55:29

Middle East, they are joining them

because it gives them a sense of

0:55:290:55:33

stability, the groups provide them

with a distorted ideological

0:55:330:55:37

indoctrination and education. And in

times of war, the sense of stability

0:55:370:55:41

for a child is very appealing.

They

are provided with basic human

0:55:410:55:47

essentials.

Precisely.

Food and

water and then become indoctrinated?

0:55:470:55:55

That is what is most disheartening

because these are basic needs,

0:55:550:56:00

education, food, a safe place to

sleep every night and we have these

0:56:000:56:04

terrorist organisations offering it

to these children who have often

0:56:040:56:07

been separated from their families

and providing them with very

0:56:070:56:14

radicalised ideas.

And if they

survive, how much long-term damage

0:56:140:56:17

can this do to a child?

It is

immense because of the levels of

0:56:170:56:22

trauma these children have

experienced, the normalisation of

0:56:220:56:26

violence, they have often been asked

to commit all kinds of violence

0:56:260:56:30

against people, and to make matters

worse, when the children are

0:56:300:56:34

captured by the state, they are

often put in jail. The majority of

0:56:340:56:39

information we have received from

children and their experiences have

0:56:390:56:42

been from children in jail.

Finally,

if I may ask you, George, from Save

0:56:420:56:49

the Children, in light of the

scandal that has emerged in the last

0:56:490:56:52

week about Oxfam and officials there

exploiting vulnerable people and

0:56:520:56:59

inappropriate sexual behaviour,

presumably Save the Children is

0:56:590:57:01

looking at its own staff and

procedures?

Exactly. The news this

0:57:010:57:05

week, personally, I found it

shocking but also really sad and it

0:57:050:57:09

has made me incredibly angry. We

exist to protect the most vulnerable

0:57:090:57:13

so when you see that people who are

professing to do the same thing but

0:57:130:57:17

are clearly not taking advantage of

the most vulnerable, it is really

0:57:170:57:22

sick making, precisely the opposite

of what we are here to do. You are

0:57:220:57:26

right, we're looking at our

0:57:260:57:37

systems and processes, we have child

safeguarding training in teams and

0:57:430:57:46

sexual harassment training, we have

got the processes, but what I keep

0:57:460:57:48

thinking and we keep talking about

internally is it is about leadership

0:57:480:57:50

and culture. We need an environment

in which anyone who experiences

0:57:500:57:53

harassment or exploitation feels

comfortable bring it forward and

0:57:530:57:54

they know something will be done and

there is a culture of tolerance. I

0:57:540:57:57

am optimistic is we will get there.

-- a culture of zero tolerance.

0:57:570:58:02

Mission-critical for us, protecting

the vulnerable. In some ways, I feel

0:58:020:58:06

like this is something we will get

to grips with, we have to get to

0:58:060:58:11

grips with, as the sector, and we

are trying our best to do it.

Thank

0:58:110:58:15

you very much for coming on the

programme. The latest news and sport

0:58:150:58:20

at 10am. Before that, the weather.

Something a little

0:58:200:58:24

at 10am. Before that, the weather.

Something a little bit milder on the

0:58:240:58:25

way over the next few days. A bit of

a chilly start this morning.

0:58:250:58:29

Compared with yesterday and the

forecast, more sunshine around than

0:58:290:58:34

yesterday afternoon. A few showers

around, fairly wintry in the

0:58:340:58:38

northern and western parts of the UK

with some sleet and snow. This is

0:58:380:58:43

where the showers have been so far

today. Mainly snow for Scotland and

0:58:430:58:49

Northern Ireland. The tops of the

Pennines and the Brecon Beacons.

0:58:490:58:53

More showers across south-west

England and Wales. They will run

0:58:530:58:57

across southern counties this

morning. In between, lots of gaps in

0:58:570:59:01

the cloud, lots of sunshine,

particularly in the east. That will

0:59:010:59:05

be the case into the afternoon.

Lunchtime, a few showers still

0:59:050:59:10

running across Southern counties,

one or two in Wales and still some

0:59:100:59:14

snow falling across the tops of the

Pennines. Snow as well in Northern

0:59:140:59:19

Ireland. From Glasgow North on the

Highlands, the bulk of the snow

0:59:190:59:23

today. As much as 20 centimetres of

fresh snow over higher ground here.

0:59:230:59:28

That will be blown around as well by

pretty strong winds. Temperatures

0:59:280:59:31

for the afternoon, blue colours

below freezing. Not too bad today,

0:59:310:59:42

up on recent days. Double figures in

the south-east. Strengthening

0:59:420:59:50

sunshine at the moment overhead.

With more of it around today, it

0:59:500:59:53

will feel more pleasant than it has

done of late. Going into tonight, we

0:59:530:59:58

will start to see temperatures

dropping quite smartly. Further snow

0:59:581:00:03

showers in western Scotland,

Northern Ireland, wintry flurries in

1:00:031:00:07

the West of England and Wales, but

with clear skies, temperatures

1:00:071:00:11

dropping tonight. Greater chances of

frost. And greater risk of ice with

1:00:111:00:22

the showers. Tonight, parts of

Scotland and Northern Ireland, the

1:00:221:00:26

northern lights for costs. Bright

red, greatest chance of seeing it

1:00:261:00:29

tonight. The northern lights

forecast. Here you may just get

1:00:291:00:38

treated to a little bit of a little

glimpse of the bright colours

1:00:381:00:43

dancing on the horizon in Scotland

and Northern Ireland. The risk of

1:00:431:00:46

ice tomorrow morning. Scotland and

Northern Ireland, another day of

1:00:461:00:52

thick cloud in the West, further

outbreaks of rain and hail snow, not

1:00:521:00:56

as much as today, temperatures on

the rise with south-westerly winds.

1:00:561:01:01

Best of the sunshine in the eastern

half of Scotland and England. A

1:01:011:01:06

fairly mild day. Quick look into the

weekend, Saturday, start with frost

1:01:061:01:17

in southern areas, much having a dry

and bright day. Some outbreaks of

1:01:171:01:23

rain and drizzle, mainly light and

patchy. Temperatures still holding

1:01:231:01:27

up into double figures for some,

continuing the mild theme into

1:01:271:01:32

Sunday. The big question mark is

where the weather front will lie.

1:01:321:01:39

Goodbye for now.

1:01:391:01:42

Our top story - a 19-year-old man's

in custody over the deaths

1:01:421:01:45

of 17 people in a school

shooting in Florida.

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Kids were evacuating. I heard five

pop, I thought that is not a drill.

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We never did a drill like that

We

have a shooter in custody, he was

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taken into custody I believe about

an hour after he left the school,

1:02:041:02:09

after he committed this horrific

homicidele detestable act.

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We'll hear from a local

reporter at the scene.

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Children as young as 12

are being banned from driving

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after being caught on the road

illegally, often with

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deadly consequences.

1:02:231:02:25

We'll speak to the sisters of boy

who died in a crash ,

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here's one underage driver

explaining why he does it.

1:02:281:02:30

I do get a rush, you know, but I

just want to put my foot down and go

1:02:311:02:36

crazy. I've been in police chases

and got away because we know where

1:02:361:02:40

we need to go. If there's a group of

us we will chip in, let an older

1:02:401:02:45

person know we want a car, they will

get a car from someone else.

1:02:451:02:57

Why do so many people put

off going to the doctor

1:02:571:03:00

to discuss worrying symptoms?

1:03:001:03:01

A campaign is launching

today to address this -

1:03:011:03:04

it's called FoFo -

the fear of finding out -

1:03:041:03:05

and it's encouraging people to get

checked out when they first notice

1:03:051:03:08

something wrong.

1:03:081:03:18

Good morning.

1:03:251:03:27

Here's Annita McVeigh

in the BBC Newsroom

1:03:271:03:28

with a summary of todays news.

1:03:281:03:30

At least 17 people have been

shot dead by a gunman

1:03:301:03:32

at a high school in Florida.

1:03:321:03:34

Several other people

are in hospital with serious

1:03:341:03:36

injuries, after the attack

at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas

1:03:361:03:42

It's the eighteenth shooting

at an American school this year.

1:03:421:03:46

Police have named the suspect

as 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz,

1:03:461:03:48

a former student who had been

expelled.

1:03:481:03:52

The ANC leader, Cyril Ramaphosa,

will be sworn in as South Africa's

1:03:521:03:55

new president later today ,

following the resignation

1:03:551:03:57

of Jacob Zuma.

1:03:571:03:58

Mr Zuma's time in office has been

marred by allegations of corruption,

1:03:581:04:01

and his own party, the ANC had

threatened to force him out

1:04:011:04:04

with a vote of no confidence.

1:04:041:04:05

In a televised statement he said

he was quitting with immediate

1:04:051:04:08

effect but said he disagreed

with his party's decision.

1:04:081:04:17

A 17-year-old has been stabbed

to death in east london

1:04:171:04:20

in a "sustained and possibly

targeted attack" -

1:04:201:04:22

the third teenager fatally knifed

in the capital this year.

1:04:221:04:25

The Metropolitan Police said

officers were called to reports

1:04:251:04:27

of a young person with stab wounds

at an address in Canning Town,

1:04:271:04:30

shortly after eight o

clock on Wednesday night.

1:04:301:04:32

No-one has been arrested.

1:04:321:04:40

The consumption of ultra-processed

foods, including cakes,

1:04:401:04:42

chicken nuggets and mass-produced

bread is linked to the risk

1:04:421:04:44

of cancer, according

to researchers in France.

1:04:441:04:46

The study of more than one hundred

thousand people is published

1:04:461:04:49

in the British Medical Journal.

1:04:491:04:50

Experts have expressed caution,

but continue to advise eating

1:04:501:04:52

a health balanced diet.

1:04:521:04:59

The government has publicly blamed

Russian military intelligence

1:04:591:05:01

for a cyber attack last year,

which affected businesses

1:05:011:05:03

around the world.

1:05:031:05:04

The Defence Secretary,

Gavin Williamson, said Russia

1:05:041:05:06

was "ripping up the rule book

by undermining democracy

1:05:061:05:08

and weaponising information".

1:05:081:05:09

Russia has denied

responsibility for the attack.

1:05:091:05:15

Sinn Fein is expected

to outline its next move today

1:05:151:05:18

following the collapse

of negotiations to restore

1:05:181:05:19

power-sharing at Stormont.

1:05:191:05:20

Talks ended yesterday

when the Democratic Unionist Party

1:05:201:05:22

said there was no prospect

of a deal.

1:05:221:05:24

Both parties have been locked

in negotiations for 13 months.

1:05:241:05:32

Oxfam has said it sacked its country

director in Haiti last

1:05:321:05:34

year for mismanagement.

1:05:341:05:35

The charity said Damien Berrendorf

had faced allegations

1:05:351:05:37

of inappropriate behaviour,

but it said his dismissal was not

1:05:371:05:40

related to sexual misconduct,

or the scandal in 2011 involving aid

1:05:401:05:42

workers in Haiti paying

local women for sex.

1:05:421:05:51

That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10.30.

1:05:511:06:01

E-mail from Mike about the ultra

processed food and cancer rates.

1:06:021:06:08

Mike says another day, another food

scare, what next? Do not eat at all?

1:06:081:06:12

This from Glenn. It is a fallacy

that eating healthily is expensive.

1:06:121:06:18

A bunch of bananas 89 pence versus

one quid for chocolate.

1:06:181:06:25

Broccoli, 45 pence versus processed

chip, round 1.50. It is easy. People

1:06:251:06:31

need help seeing past the doctrine

that hell-0 equals expensive. Sport

1:06:311:06:35

and Hugh is back

Good morning.

Britain could claim its first medal

1:06:351:06:39

of the Winter Olympics after

skeleton slider Dom Parsons put

1:06:391:06:43

himself in a good position half way

through his competition. He is in

1:06:431:06:47

fourth after two of his four runs in

Pyeongchang. 3 hundredth of a second

1:06:471:06:52

from the bronze medal position. His

final runs will be in the early

1:06:521:06:57

hours of tomorrow morning A few

mistakes on the first run. Probably

1:06:571:07:01

a bit of race tension, ended up

overdrying a couple of bits and a

1:07:011:07:06

bit off line, but it is what it is

I'm still in the mix I so I'll take

1:07:061:07:11

that.

The alpine skiing is back on

in the blue ribbon event. The

1:07:111:07:18

Norwegian became the oldest alpine

skiing champion when he won the

1:07:181:07:21

men's down hill. It is his second

Olympic Gold. Mikaela Shifrin is

1:07:211:07:30

expected to be one of those big

success stories of the game, the

1:07:301:07:35

American won her first gold of these

2018 games in the Giant Slalom. She

1:07:351:07:41

is bidding for three more titles on

the slopes.

1:07:411:07:48

They had been fourth overnight after

Massot completed a double instead of

1:07:521:08:00

a triple Salchow. They beat their

own record today to finish ahead of

1:08:001:08:06

the pairs from China, and Canada.

The curling is back on with the

1:08:061:08:12

round-robin matches continuing. The

men's team responded to their defeat

1:08:121:08:15

to Canada yesterday with a win this

morning against Japan. It was enough

1:08:151:08:22

to win it at 6-5, they are done for

the day, after that one match

1:08:221:08:29

against Japan.

It is something we

talked about to be more consistent

1:08:291:08:36

through the entire game, instead of

having good spells and a few bad

1:08:361:08:39

spells but I think we put that into

action today. There was a couple of

1:08:391:08:44

times things didn't look too good

but we managed to get it out and it

1:08:441:08:47

was a good team performance and we

ground out the win.

It is one win

1:08:471:08:51

and one defeat for the women's team

after losing to the United States,

1:08:511:08:57

even Muirhead's rink were expected

to win, they return to the ice to

1:08:571:09:01

play China, just after 11 o'clock

this morning, so they have more work

1:09:011:09:04

to do today.

Away from Pyeongchang, there was

1:09:041:09:08

another hugely impressive

performance for an English side in

1:09:081:09:11

this Champions League. It was

Liverpool's first game in the knock

1:09:111:09:13

out stage, for nine year, they

marked it with a naive nil win at

1:09:131:09:20

Porto in po -- 5-0 win in Porto. It

was very impressive from Liverpool.

1:09:201:09:31

As it was from Real Madrid.

Cristiano Ronaldo became the first

1:09:311:09:35

player to score 100 goals for a

single club in the Champions League.

1:09:351:09:38

He helped them come from behind to

beat Paris St Germain. That was his

1:09:381:09:45

second of the night. So 101 overall

for Real Madrid. That is all your

1:09:451:09:50

sport for now.

1:09:501:09:56

Just seven weeks into 2018

and America has witnessed it's 18th

1:09:561:09:59

school shooting this year -

the eighth in which schoolchildren

1:09:591:10:01

have been killed or injured.

1:10:011:10:02

This time it's a community

in Florida, recently named one

1:10:021:10:05

of the safest in the country,

which has seen another

1:10:051:10:07

mass shooting.

1:10:071:10:10

At least 17 people have been

killed after a gunman

1:10:101:10:12

opened fire with a rifle

at Marjory Stoneman

1:10:121:10:14

Douglas High School.

1:10:141:10:17

Police and SWAT teams swarmed

the campus and began evacuating

1:10:171:10:20

terrified students from the school,

which is about an hour north

1:10:201:10:22

of Miami, as parents and ambulances

gathered on the scene.

1:10:221:10:25

This shocking footage shows students

cowering as gunshots ring out.

1:10:251:10:27

In the panic hundreds of students

took shelter in classrooms

1:10:271:10:30

and cupboards while emergency

services methodically

1:10:301:10:31

searched the school campus.

1:10:311:10:41

Nikolas Cruz, a 19-year-old

former pupil who had been

1:10:441:10:46

expelled from the school,

has been arrested.

1:10:461:10:48

Police say the shooting has

devastated the community.

1:10:481:10:58

We have a shooter in custody.

1:11:031:11:05

He was taken into custody,

I believe, about an hour

1:11:051:11:07

after he left Stoneman Douglas,

after he committed this horrific

1:11:071:11:09

homicidal, detestable act.

1:11:091:11:10

The FBI and our crime

scene people will

1:11:101:11:12

begin processing this horrific scene

as soon as the buildings are

1:11:121:11:15

cleared.

1:11:151:11:22

Shocked students and parents have

been describing what they saw.

1:11:221:11:27

The fire alarm got

pulled and kids were

1:11:271:11:30

evacuating.

1:11:301:11:32

And I was like, that not a drill.

1:11:321:11:34

We never did a drill like that.

1:11:341:11:37

We started evacuating towards

the back, towards the middle school.

1:11:371:11:40

I knew it was more than a drill

because we haven't done that.

1:11:401:11:43

We just have to wait.

1:11:431:11:44

And we kept hearing

shooters and we didn't know

1:11:451:11:48

if it was fireworks or shooters.

1:11:481:11:50

We kept just going back and forth.

1:11:501:11:51

And then it started

going on news and

1:11:511:11:53

found out what was really going on.

1:11:531:11:55

Literally just came from there,

picking up some kids along the way,

1:11:551:11:59

because a lot of the kids are really

distraught as you can imagine,

1:11:591:12:02

So it's just terrifying.

1:12:021:12:03

Terrified for the parents,

terrified for the kids.

1:12:031:12:05

Very emotional.

1:12:051:12:06

The Governor of Florida, Rick Scott,

vowed to do everything

1:12:061:12:08

in his power to ensure children

were safe at school.

1:12:081:12:11
1:12:111:12:16

You're furious.

1:12:161:12:17

How could this ever

happen in this country?

1:12:171:12:19

How could this happen in this state?

1:12:191:12:20

This is a state that is

focused on keeping all

1:12:201:12:23

of our children safe.

1:12:231:12:24

You come to the conclusion

this is just absolutely

1:12:241:12:26

pure evil.

1:12:261:12:32

This state is not

tolerating violence.

1:12:321:12:35

We have law enforcement

that will always show up

1:12:351:12:37

to defend our safety.

1:12:371:12:41

The shooting means another

debate around tighter

1:12:411:12:43

gun control in the US.

1:12:431:12:44

Florida is now the scene of one

of the deadliest US school shootings

1:12:441:12:47

since the 2012 attack

at the Sandy Hook Elementary School

1:12:471:12:49

in Connecticut where 20 children

and six staff members were killed.

1:12:491:12:58

Chris Murphy is the Democratic

Senator for Connecticut.

1:12:581:13:00

He's made a passionate plea

for action to be taken

1:13:001:13:02

to prevent school shootings.

1:13:021:13:12

This happens nowhere else other than

the United States. This epidemic of

1:13:121:13:20

mass slaughter. This scourge of

school shooting after school

1:13:201:13:26

shooting.

It only happens here not because of

1:13:261:13:32

coincidence, not because of bad

luck, but as a consequence of our

1:13:321:13:37

inaction.

We are responsible.

1:13:371:13:46

For a level of mass atrocity that

happens in this country, with zero

1:13:461:13:50

parallel. Anywhere else. As a

parents, it scares me to death that

1:13:501:14:01

this body doesn't take seriously the

safety of my children. It seems like

1:14:011:14:05

a lot of parents in south Florida

are going to be asking that question

1:14:051:14:09

later today. We pray for the

families, for the victims, we hope

1:14:091:14:14

for the best.

1:14:141:14:15

for the best.

1:14:151:14:16

President Trump tweeted

his condolences saying:

1:14:161:14:26

James LaPorta has been reporting

from the scene of the shooting

1:14:301:14:32

for The Daily Beast in Florida.

1:14:321:14:34

He told me how the community

has been reacting.

1:14:341:14:42

Parents I have talked to here, they

have this, you know, almost a little

1:14:421:14:46

bit of survivors' Gill, in terms of

like, for them, they thank God it

1:14:461:14:52

wasn't their child who was killed in

the shooting but then they almost

1:14:521:14:57

feel bad for saying that, because

they know someone else's family is

1:14:571:15:03

impacted by this. You know, so it is

a very just, it is a very sombre

1:15:031:15:08

state right now, and it's very just

kind of surreal, you know. Parents

1:15:081:15:13

just, you know, the line that keeps

getting uttered is, we never thought

1:15:131:15:18

it would happen here, and that seems

to be kind of the cliche now, every

1:15:181:15:25

time this occurs, we never thought

it would happen here and yet it

1:15:251:15:29

does. So here we are.

1:15:291:15:41

He posted some things that should

have been a red flag. But cops

1:16:011:16:07

should be killed, things of that

nature, cops oppress the good guys,

1:16:071:16:15

so to speak, language kind of like

that. Usually, sometimes the red

1:16:151:16:22

flags, hindsight, it tends to be

20-20, the red flags only pieced

1:16:221:16:28

together in the aftermath of

something like this. From what I can

1:16:281:16:33

gather, before this, he had

disciplinary problems at the school.

1:16:331:16:38

He was a former student of the high

school, he was expelled, he had a

1:16:381:16:48

history of disciplinary problems,

posting things on social media that

1:16:481:16:54

probably should have raised flags at

the time.

Can you explain how

1:16:541:17:01

somebody with a semiautomatic

assault rifle can get onto school

1:17:011:17:05

property, into a school?

It is

pretty easy. It is as simple as

1:17:051:17:15

planning, all it takes is planning.

For him, very easy to do. He

1:17:151:17:21

conducted the shooting at the end of

the day. In January, the county

1:17:211:17:27

schools had finished their training

drills, in terms of what classrooms

1:17:271:17:34

are supposed to do if something like

this occurs. That only just ended in

1:17:341:17:40

January. So the procedures were

fresh in his mind. Still has friends

1:17:401:17:46

at the high school. Very easy for

him to look for the methods that are

1:17:461:17:52

in place at the school and to

exploit the weaknesses there. In

1:17:521:17:57

terms of him bringing guns onto the

campus, very easy to do, especially

1:17:571:18:02

with schools having the limited

staff in terms of staff devoted to

1:18:021:18:05

security.

When the president says,

no child, teacher or anyone else

1:18:051:18:12

should ever feel unsafe in an

American school, what do people

1:18:121:18:15

think that means?

I think he is

right about that, although...

In

1:18:151:18:22

terms of what he will do in the

future?

The president is right, they

1:18:221:18:27

should not feel that, but they are,

they are scared right now. I have

1:18:271:18:33

talked a couple of teachers here

locally, an elementary school

1:18:331:18:39

teacher, their school was near the

high school, and from what she told

1:18:391:18:43

me, she does not even know if she

can do her job any more, being a

1:18:431:18:48

teacher, she does not know if she

can keep her children safe. She does

1:18:481:18:52

not know if she can protect them.

Parents are waking up not knowing

1:18:521:18:56

what to tell their kids. While the

president is correct that people

1:18:561:19:01

should not feel that way, they are.

And they are after every single time

1:19:011:19:09

something like this happens. I said

earlier it seems like we are in this

1:19:091:19:14

for lack of a better term feedback

loop from hell where a mass shooting

1:19:141:19:21

occurs and then we have a political

debate and then the debate drops off

1:19:211:19:27

and it doesn't rise again until

another mass shooting happens. It

1:19:271:19:35

does not seem like, and this is just

me being an observer, the lessons

1:19:351:19:41

are being observed from shooting to

shooting to shooting.

Reporting from

1:19:411:19:47

Florida. Still to come... One of

Britain's most successful boxes,

1:19:471:19:55

still fighting at 37, David Haye,

how he is supporting up-and-coming

1:19:551:20:00

boxers like Joe Joyce who will also

be here.

1:20:001:20:08

A BBC investigation has discovered

that children as young as 12

1:20:081:20:11

are being banned from driving -

before they're legally old enough

1:20:111:20:13

even to be behind the wheel.

1:20:131:20:15

BBC Yorkshire found there has been

a 47% rise in the number of driving

1:20:151:20:18

disqualifications for children aged

16 or under in the last four years.

1:20:181:20:23

The RAC say the figures

are the tip of the iceberg.

1:20:231:20:26

In a moment, we'll talk

about what's behind the rise

1:20:261:20:28

and what could be done

to reverse it.

1:20:281:20:30

But first, let's hear

from an underage driver about how

1:20:301:20:34

and why he breaks the law,

and from the sisters

1:20:341:20:37

of Darnell Harte, a 15-year-old

who was killed in a crash in Leeds

1:20:371:20:40

late last year when another

15-year-old crashed the stolen

1:20:401:20:43

car he was driving.

1:20:431:20:46

I do get a rush, you know,

where I just want to put my

1:20:461:20:49

foot down and go crazy.

1:20:491:20:50

I've been in police chases and I've

got away, because we know

1:20:501:20:53

where we need to go.

1:20:531:20:55

If there's a group of us,

you know, we'll all chip in.

1:21:081:21:10

We'll let an older person

know that we want a car.

1:21:101:21:14

And then they'll get a car

from someone else and then

1:21:141:21:16

they'll bring it to us.

1:21:161:21:18

they'll bring it to us.

1:21:181:21:23

Our house will never be the same,

our family will never be the same.

1:21:231:21:26

Darnell was literally

the heart of our family.

1:21:261:21:36

The judge should have said,

I'm going to set an example,

1:21:521:21:56

The judge should have said,

I'm going to set an example,

1:21:561:21:57

I'm going to teach young boys,

or young girls, or young people that

1:21:571:22:01

feel it is OK to steal

a car that it's not OK,

1:22:011:22:04

these are the consequences

of your actions.

1:22:041:22:07

Because, you know,

regardless of your age,

1:22:071:22:09

you know what you're doing.

1:22:091:22:13

Let's talk to Paul Silverwood

who runs a car club teaching

1:22:131:22:16

youngsters under the age

of 17 to drive.

1:22:161:22:24

Nicole,

who learnt to drive

1:22:241:22:26

at the under-17s Car Club.

1:22:261:22:27

And Claire Evans, who is consumer

editor at What Car magazine.

1:22:271:22:29

I want

1:22:291:22:32

I want you to react with the fact

that children as young as 12 are

1:22:321:22:35

being banned from driving according

to the BBC Yorkshire figures.

1:22:351:22:40

Shocking. What surprised me is the

rate of increase, 47% over the last

1:22:401:22:46

four years, really shocking. The

other statistics that concerns me is

1:22:461:22:51

the driving bans start from the day

they appear in court, if you're 15,

1:22:511:22:58

you get a two-year ban, it does not

have an effect. There should be a

1:22:581:23:04

ban and another ban from when they

are 17. What do you think?

Agree. I

1:23:041:23:10

think it is terrible they are able

to do this. It is perhaps kids in

1:23:101:23:17

inner cities are not able to drive

kids legally when they are older

1:23:171:23:21

because it is so expensive, they

cannot afford the insurance, £2000 a

1:23:211:23:26

year on top of the cost of a car, a

lot of kids will not get their own

1:23:261:23:30

cars.

So they steal them and

sometimes end up dead? Killing

1:23:301:23:36

others?

Yes, absolutely terrible.

I

wonder if you could explain the

1:23:361:23:42

attraction for you of wanting to

learn to drive, Nicole, before you

1:23:421:23:47

reach the age of 17? Why not wait?

I

wanted to start so I could get the

1:23:471:23:54

experience of driving before I was

on the road, I wanted to be

1:23:541:23:58

confident before I got onto the

road. That was the main thing,

1:23:581:24:01

really. I did not want to make

mistakes and put anyone else in

1:24:011:24:07

danger, I learnt on the airfield, I

got the chance to learn the basics

1:24:071:24:11

like clutch control without actually

having to make everyone else stop

1:24:111:24:17

and nervous around me. That was the

main reason, really.

Can you see why

1:24:171:24:24

there is an attraction for other

young people before the age of 17 to

1:24:241:24:29

want to get behind the wheel of a

car?

I can see where the attraction

1:24:291:24:33

is. I love driving, absolutely love

it now. I was never that King before

1:24:331:24:40

I started driving, but when I

started getting the hang of it,

1:24:401:24:44

getting good, it is like a hobby now

and I love it -- I was never keen. I

1:24:441:24:52

also help now.

Tell us more about

the people who come through your

1:24:521:24:57

club who want to learn to drive

before the age of 17 and where you

1:24:571:25:01

do it and how you do it safely?

We

have a mix, roughly 50% male and

1:25:011:25:07

female. There was a perception it is

a boys thing because that is what

1:25:071:25:11

boys like to do but it is not the

case at all. We have an under 17 car

1:25:111:25:17

club which is from 11 up to 18 and

we use airfields, racing tracks, off

1:25:171:25:25

the public road, so we are legal.

Do

you think it helps stop people

1:25:251:25:32

driving illegally? Teenagers driving

illegally?

Yes, I think it gives

1:25:321:25:36

them an outlet for that desire but

it is done in a safe environment.

1:25:361:25:40

The key thing for us is the

technical side of driving is

1:25:401:25:44

relatively easy. The main thing is

that attitude, taking

1:25:441:25:48

responsibility, having regard for

your peers for the vehicle you are

1:25:481:25:51

driving, it is virtually never the

youngstersomeone else's. We do a lot

1:25:511:26:00

of stuff around attitude, peer

pressure, discussions on that,

1:26:001:26:06

giving them help on how they can be

asserted in situations they might

1:26:061:26:13

find themselves in.

What sort of

peer pressure might they come under?

1:26:131:26:17

One of the examples we use as you go

to a nightclub, you come out, two

1:26:171:26:22

o'clock in the morning, someone

promised you a lift home, they have

1:26:221:26:28

disappeared, and you are stuck. But

a friend says their boyfriend will

1:26:281:26:31

give you a lift. You know he has

been drinking. What do you do? Get

1:26:311:26:37

the car? Take the risk? That is the

debate we have.

How old are

1:26:371:26:43

children?

20 and 17.

In terms of the

desire to learn to drive, everybody

1:26:431:26:50

has got it, haven't they?

Yes. My

daughter in particular. We live in

1:26:501:26:56

Southeast London and the roads are

really busy and people are not very

1:26:561:27:01

forgiving for learner drivers so I

took my son on a course, the

1:27:011:27:05

five-day course, he got to learn on

an airfield and everyone gave each

1:27:051:27:09

other enough space.

How old was he?

17. He appreciated it. In a week, he

1:27:091:27:17

gained complete confidence. He came

back home and had driving lessons

1:27:171:27:20

and he would come out in the car for

me and not feel panicky about being

1:27:201:27:25

in a crowded situation. It gave him

a huge amount of confidence.

As you

1:27:251:27:29

were learning at the under 17s car

club, Nicole, just thinking about

1:27:291:27:35

when I was 14, 15, certainly not

mature enough when I look back to be

1:27:351:27:40

learning to drive?

Yeah, I did find

it really hard at first, really

1:27:401:27:47

stressful, I definitely did not pick

it up at first, I was not a natural,

1:27:471:27:51

but everyone was so nice, really

reassuring. The marshals were really

1:27:511:27:56

nice and I have made good friends

with them now. It was very, very no

1:27:561:28:04

pressure, you could do it at your

own pace, it was definitely easier

1:28:041:28:07

than learning to drive on the roads.

Still, some of your contemporaries,

1:28:071:28:14

where there are some who wanted to

show off behind the wheel?

Yeah,

1:28:141:28:19

sometimes it happens. But as

Marshall, we to either pull them

1:28:191:28:25

aside... We do the peer pressure

talks and it is called a breaking

1:28:251:28:30

demonstration so we showed them that

speed affects braking distances and

1:28:301:28:36

how much impact that can have on

motorways and speeding and stuff

1:28:361:28:40

like that. It gives them a reality

check once they start getting more

1:28:401:28:45

confident.

The reality is also these

kinds of courses are under 17s are

1:28:451:28:51

not the kind of things teenagers

stealing cars will be interested in

1:28:511:28:57

will be able to afford either.

It is

relatively cheap, the five-day

1:28:571:29:01

course, £170.

That is not relatively

cheap!

We have a bursary scheme for

1:29:011:29:08

those on low income is. You have to

provide a car, there has to be a

1:29:081:29:12

level of income.

That is what I

mean. Your course... What would you

1:29:121:29:20

say to that, Claire?

Talk to the

Pathfinder people, if your kid is

1:29:201:29:25

really keen, see how they can help,

there are a lot of... They are great

1:29:251:29:30

charity. A lot of people want to

help. You do not have to pay a lot

1:29:301:29:36

of money for insurance on private

land. Definitely worth getting in

1:29:361:29:39

touch with people.

I think the

benefits outweigh the cost. Because

1:29:391:29:45

we are saving the nation lots of,

millions of pounds, in terms of not

1:29:451:29:52

having accidents causing death or

injury.

Thank you all very much. And

1:29:521:29:58

if you're watching in Yorkshire, you

can see more on this story on BBC

1:29:581:30:02

One at 6:30pm tonight.

1:30:021:30:11

Coming up, what next for South

African President Zuma has resigned?

1:30:111:30:14

We will talk to a member of the ANC

party. Why do so many people put off

1:30:141:30:19

going the doctors a new campaign is

encouraging people to find out when

1:30:191:30:30

they first noticed something is

wrong. We will talk to Jeff Brazier

1:30:301:30:34

who lost his former girlfriend Jade

Goody to cancer.

1:30:341:30:39

Time for the latest news -

here's Annita McVeigh.

1:30:391:30:42

A former pupil armed

with a semi-automatic rifle has

1:30:421:30:44

opened fire at his school in south

Florida, killing at least 17

1:30:441:30:47

children and adults.

1:30:471:30:48

Several other people

are in hospital with serious

1:30:481:30:50

injuries, after the attack

at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas

1:30:501:30:52

school in Parkland, near Miami.

1:30:521:30:53

It's the eighteenth shooting

at an American school this year.

1:30:531:30:55

Police have named the suspect

as 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz,

1:30:551:30:58

a former student who had been

expelled.

1:30:581:31:08

The ANC leader, Cyril Ramaphosa,

will be sworn in as South Africa's

1:31:101:31:13

new president later

today , following the

1:31:131:31:15

resignation of Jacob Zuma.

1:31:151:31:16

Mr Zuma's time in office has been

marred by allegations of corruption,

1:31:161:31:19

and his own party, the ANC had

threatened to force him out

1:31:191:31:21

with a vote of no confidence.

1:31:221:31:24

In a televised statement he said

he was quitting with immediate

1:31:241:31:26

effect but said he disagreed

with his party's decision.

1:31:261:31:31

A 17-year-old has been stabbed

to death in East London

1:31:311:31:33

in a "sustained and possibly

targeted attack" -

1:31:331:31:35

the third teenager fatally knifed

in the capital this year.

1:31:351:31:37

The Metropolitan Police said

officers were called to reports

1:31:371:31:40

of a young person with stab wounds

at an address in Canning Town,

1:31:401:31:43

shortly after eight o

clock on Wednesday night.

1:31:431:31:45

So far no-one has been arrested.

1:31:451:31:55
1:31:551:31:56

The consumption of ultra-processed

foods, including cakes,

1:31:561:31:57

chicken nuggets and mass-produced

bread is linked to the risk

1:31:571:32:00

of cancer, according

to researchers in France.

1:32:001:32:02

The study of more than one hundred

thousand people is published

1:32:021:32:04

in the British Medical Journal.

1:32:041:32:05

Experts have expressed caution,

but continue to advise eating

1:32:051:32:07

a health balanced diet.

1:32:081:32:15
1:32:151:32:16

The government has publicly blamed

Russian military intelligence

1:32:161:32:18

for a cyber attack last

year, which affected

1:32:181:32:20

businesses around the world.

1:32:201:32:21

The Defence Secretary,

Gavin Williamson, said Russia

1:32:211:32:23

was "ripping up the rule book

by undermining democracy

1:32:231:32:25

and weaponising information".

1:32:251:32:26

Russia has denied

responsibility for the attack.

1:32:261:32:36

Sinn Fein is expected

to outline its next move today

1:32:371:32:39

following the collapse

of negotiations to restore

1:32:391:32:41

power-sharing at Stormont.

1:32:411:32:42

Talks ended yesterday

when the Democratic Unionist Party

1:32:421:32:44

said there was no prospect

of a deal.

1:32:441:32:46

Both parties have been locked

in negotiations for 13 months.

1:32:461:32:53

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

1:32:531:32:55

Here's some sport now with Hugh.

1:32:561:33:00

British skeleton slider Dom Parsons

is in the medal hunt

1:33:001:33:02

at the Winter Olympics after two

of his four runs in Pyeongchang.

1:33:021:33:05

He's just three hundredths

of a second outside the bronze medal

1:33:051:33:08

position with his two

final runs tomorrow.

1:33:081:33:14

Team GB's men's curlers bounced back

from a defeat yesterday

1:33:141:33:16

to win their round robin match this

morning against Japan.

1:33:161:33:19

The winning stone was the final

stone of the final end.

1:33:191:33:21

But the women lost

earlier to the USA.

1:33:211:33:28

They're back on the ice at 11

o'clock our time against China.

1:33:281:33:31

American skiier Mikaela Shiffrin

wins the first of what she hopes

1:33:311:33:34

will be a handful of golds

in the giant slalom.

1:33:341:33:38

It's actually her weakest discipline

- so expect more from Mikaela.

1:33:381:33:40

And Liverpool hammer Porto

5-0 in the first leg

1:33:401:33:42

of their Champmions League last 16

tie in Portugal.

1:33:421:33:45

Sadio Mane scoring a hattrick

in a record away knockout

1:33:451:33:47

victory for an English club

in the competition.

1:33:471:33:57

More throughout the morning on top

news channel.

1:34:051:34:09

A new campaign is being launched

today to raise awareness

1:34:091:34:11

of spotting early symptoms

of many common illnesses.

1:34:111:34:13

FOFO stands for the fear of finding

out and the campaign is highlighting

1:34:131:34:16

the importance of early diagnosis

and encouraging people

1:34:161:34:18

to see their doctor.

1:34:181:34:19

It's being backed by TV

presenter Jeff Brazier,

1:34:191:34:21

whose sons lost their mum,

Big Brother star Jade Goody,

1:34:211:34:24

from cervical cancer after she put

off going for a smear test.

1:34:241:34:33

Jeff is here, as is Dr Philippa

Kaye, who is a family GP,

1:34:351:34:39

and on Skype from Plymouth,

Mark McGovern, a landscape gardener

1:34:391:34:42

who had a stroke after ignoring

the symptoms of type 2

1:34:421:34:44

diabetes for five years.

1:34:441:34:49

Welcome as well to you Mark. EJeff,

I mean you know more than most, how

1:34:491:34:55

important it is not to delay seeing

a doctor

I absolutely, I am the

1:34:551:35:00

father of two bereaved children who

have been put at a huge disadvantage

1:35:001:35:05

throughout their childhood. The

amount of knock on effects it has on

1:35:051:35:09

their education, on their social

abilities, behavioural changes as

1:35:091:35:14

well,...

Losing their mum?

Yes, I

mean, you know as such a young age,

1:35:141:35:19

four and five, I can see, for the

last nine years experienced first

1:35:191:35:25

hand the effects of the loss of a

parent, but also within you consider

1:35:251:35:28

that it was potentially avoidable,

well there is no potentially, it was

1:35:281:35:34

unnecessary and you imagine that it

was Jade's fear of finding out what

1:35:341:35:43

those cervical irregularities were,

because she had quite a few

1:35:431:35:47

letterers and I can only imagine she

wasn't putting it into the context

1:35:471:35:52

we would have preferred her to, when

you became a parent it is not just

1:35:521:35:57

about look after your own health and

wellbeing, it is looking after,

1:35:571:36:01

sorry it is not about just looking

after the children it is your own as

1:36:011:36:05

well, and if she had known that by

going into denial, avoidance,

1:36:051:36:11

suppression of not wanting to see

what that reality was, what was

1:36:111:36:15

going on within her body, if he knew

she would lose her battle cancer,

1:36:151:36:20

then I know she would have come to a

very different conclusion earlier

1:36:201:36:24

on.

What has been the impact on the

boys would you say in

So the impact

1:36:241:36:30

is again, they are just emotionally,

they are less, they are less may be

1:36:301:36:36

stable than an average child. They

can be a lot of things that happen

1:36:361:36:40

domesticically that can happen

children, as enough as I try to be

1:36:401:36:44

the all to them, I can never replace

mum. It is a sense of identity they

1:36:441:36:48

lose because you know, you find out

a lot about who you are in life

1:36:481:36:52

through who your mum and dad is s

they have one who is present and

1:36:521:36:55

still there, and trying to get as

much right as he can, they have lost

1:36:551:37:01

that big character that was their

mum, that would have given them

1:37:011:37:05

twice as much unconditional love as

they received. So it is hard on the

1:37:051:37:09

kids, and when you know it was

avoidable, it is just, it is hard

1:37:091:37:13

not to sit there and feel regret at

time, regret for a decision that us

1:37:131:37:18

withn't made, regret for a decision

that could have been made better,

1:37:181:37:21

you know.

Phillipa, do you understand from a

1:37:211:37:26

GP's point of view this sort of

psychological barrier, this obstacle

1:37:261:37:30

that we put in place, to stop

ourselves going to the doctors to

1:37:301:37:35

check out?

Absolutely, we are not

talking about the come coughs and

1:37:351:37:40

cold, we are not talking about

people who come to the GP for a sore

1:37:401:37:44

throat. We are taking about more

serious thing, the fear of finding

1:37:441:37:48

out can be split, into what that is,

for some people, it is, they don't

1:37:481:37:52

like the doctor, they are scared of

needle, they are scared of what the

1:37:521:37:57

intervention will be, for others

they are scared of the stigma, the

1:37:571:38:03

effects on their family, their job

and denial is is a hugely powerful

1:38:031:38:07

tool that we use sometimes to

protect us, essentially what happens

1:38:071:38:11

is that you deny, and you put aside

until a trigger comes along, that

1:38:111:38:15

forces you to do something,

sometimes that trigger is early and

1:38:151:38:20

it's somebody else was ill or a

family friend or something like

1:38:201:38:23

that, and sometimes it is yourself

when an emergency happens, or pain

1:38:231:38:27

starts to kick in. We want people to

present before that trigger, before

1:38:271:38:32

something happens, come to us early.

Even if you know that you have a

1:38:321:38:37

fear, and you are well, come and

tell us what that is. If it is for

1:38:371:38:43

example needle phobia and you are

care scared of pain I can give you a

1:38:431:38:53

local anaesthetic, preprevention is

better.

No-one is going to come to a

1:38:531:38:56

doctor, they won't make an

appointment to come and say I am

1:38:561:38:59

worried are about needles. I need to

tell you this now, in case I have to

1:38:591:39:05

have an injection.

I don't think

that is true. People come to us for

1:39:051:39:08

a sore throat for an hour, and they

have access to us, and they come

1:39:081:39:14

quickly. I have had athlete foots

for two day, if you say I have a

1:39:141:39:20

genuine phobia, that is a mental

health problem and we need to do

1:39:201:39:23

something about it. If people are

willing to come for minor thing,

1:39:231:39:27

come for something that could have a

huge impact on your life.

Mark,

1:39:271:39:31

hello, thank you for talking to us,

you knew something wasn't right

1:39:311:39:34

because you were going to the loo

more, you experienced a lack of

1:39:341:39:39

concentration, numbness and so on,

what was it stopped you going to the

1:39:391:39:42

doctors to get the symptoms checked

out

Basic sickly I had a TIA, back

1:39:421:39:50

if March 2016

What is that?

1:39:501:39:52

Oh I think the Skype has frozen.

It

wasn't until I got to hospital that

1:39:551:40:02

I actually got diagnosed with

diabetes type two. Because I had not

1:40:021:40:07

been to the doctors and got my

symptoms checked out, that is why I

1:40:071:40:11

had the stroke.

Right.

1:40:111:40:14

And when you weren't going to the

GP, perhaps you were thinking, I

1:40:141:40:17

ought to get these things checked

out. What did you think was going

1:40:171:40:21

on?

To be honest, I thought they

were just little thing, I didn't

1:40:211:40:27

think they were important, because

it wasn't all happening at once, and

1:40:271:40:32

GPs and the NHS is stretched to the

limits at the moment as it is, so I

1:40:321:40:36

didn't want to be a burden to the

doctors or the NHS for you know,

1:40:361:40:40

little things as I saw them, so that

was my thinking behind it, but I an

1:40:401:40:47

a typical bloke. I can dismiss

things and excuse things for not to

1:40:471:40:52

do something like go to the doctors.

A TIA is a mini-stroke, you ended up

1:40:521:40:58

being hospitalised, what were you

thinking, when doctors at the

1:40:581:41:05

hospital said you had type 2

diabetes?

Initially I was shocked

1:41:051:41:08

when hay told me, because I just

said no -- I had no idea that that

1:41:081:41:15

was the case, and then I was scared

because of my family, my future, and

1:41:151:41:22

then anger set in, because I could

have done something so much sooner

1:41:221:41:27

and I wouldn'ted have ended up in

the position I did do.

1:41:271:41:30

But I mean when you think back,

was... Obviously you now wished you

1:41:301:41:36

had gone to the GPs earlier, what

would have made do you that when you

1:41:361:41:40

think about how you used to?

If I

had seen...

I think Mark was going

1:41:401:41:51

to say if he had seen a campaign

like this one

It is each

1:41:511:41:56

individual's relationship with their

own fear, I would like everybody to

1:41:561:41:59

aevaluate that, we have got together

with live lab to create this

1:41:591:42:03

wonderful app so people can go and

have, it is take a quiz and they can

1:42:031:42:08

find out quickly, it doesn't take

long to take what their relationship

1:42:081:42:11

with fear is and be given advice off

the back of it as to if they have

1:42:111:42:17

worrying symptoms what they can do

with it. It is pretestimonitive. It

1:42:171:42:21

is let us establish the fact before

anything is wrong with you, whether

1:42:211:42:24

you have a barrier, whether you have

a relationship with fear that might

1:42:241:42:28

stop you from taking the responsible

steps, if not for you but for you

1:42:281:42:33

family and those that love you, as I

know only too well, it is all about

1:42:331:42:38

keeping yourself healthy for the

whole family, because we all need

1:42:381:42:42

you, that is a parents' job first

and foremost.

If I can mention

1:42:421:42:47

taking the responsible steps, if not

for you but for you family and those

1:42:471:42:50

that love you, as I know only too

well, it is all about keeping

1:42:501:42:53

yourself healthy for the whole

family, because we all need you,

1:42:531:42:55

that is a parents' job first and

foremost. If I can mention about

1:42:551:42:57

being a burden, "I don't want to be

a Burten" the cost if we can get to

1:42:571:43:01

things early, and use preventative

treatment or manage diabetes before

1:43:011:43:03

there is a complication, it costs

less to the NHS, than if we have

1:43:031:43:06

serious complication and we need

surgery, radiotherapy, that costs

1:43:061:43:07

more than the cost of in Jade's

example some little treatment to the

1:43:071:43:12

cervix and so that burden is greater

with the latest dyings sips not just

1:43:121:43:17

to the family, their lives but to

the NHS.

1:43:171:43:20

There was three layers of reasoning

that you hear from Mark's example,

1:43:201:43:23

is I don't want to be a burden, they

are just little things, I am a

1:43:231:43:28

typical bloke, you can hear tip. I

bet we could have a conversation

1:43:281:43:32

with hundreds of people and you

would pick them out. Let us get rid

1:43:321:43:37

of that mentality and let us make

ourselves more important to

1:43:371:43:40

ourselves than we do sometimes.

Quick final worse word from you

1:43:401:43:46

Mark, a message for putting off

going to the doctor, what would you

1:43:461:43:50

say

You know you own body, you know

when something is amiss. Just speak

1:43:501:43:59

to somebody.

Please go. That is the

message.

Listen to your body.

Thank

1:43:591:44:04

you. Thank you very much, we

appreciate it. Thank you.

1:44:041:44:12

Cyril Ramaphosa is due to become

South Africa's president

1:44:121:44:14

after embattled leader

Jacob Zuma resigned.

1:44:141:44:16

Mr Zuma was under intense pressure

from his own ANC party,

1:44:161:44:19

which told him to step down or face

a vote of no-confidence

1:44:191:44:21

in parliament.

1:44:211:44:22

In a televised statement, he said

he was quitting with immediate

1:44:221:44:35

The ANC should never be divided in

my name. I have therefore come to

1:44:351:44:41

the decision to resign as president

of the republic with immediate

1:44:411:44:47

effect.

1:44:471:44:53

So, just who is Cyril Ramaphosa?

1:44:531:44:57

Take a look at this.

1:44:571:45:00

That I will be faithful to the

Republic of South Africa, so help me

1:45:451:45:49

God.

1:45:491:45:54

It has definitely had a very

negative impact on the economy of

1:46:041:46:09

our country, whether people want to

accept it or not, it has.

1:46:091:46:14

Let's speak now

to Dr Penuell Maduna,

1:46:151:46:18

who served as a minister under

South African presidents Nelson

1:46:181:46:20

Mandela and Thabo Mbeki,

and remains an ANC member.

1:46:201:46:25

How

and remains an ANC member.

1:46:251:46:25

How do

and remains an ANC member.

1:46:251:46:26

How do you

and remains an ANC member.

1:46:261:46:26

How do you react

and remains an ANC member.

1:46:261:46:26

How do you react to

and remains an ANC member.

1:46:261:46:26

How do you react to the

and remains an ANC member.

1:46:261:46:28

How do you react to the fact

and remains an ANC member.

1:46:281:46:28

How do you react to the fact Jacob

and remains an ANC member.

1:46:281:46:29

How do you react to the fact Jacob

Zuma has finally gone?

In fact, I

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fully accept and endorse what has

happened.

And how will Cyril

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Ramaphosa be different?

Well, that

is a very interesting question. He

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has so far been making all the right

noises about what has gone wrong,

1:46:501:47:00

not only with the ANC but with the

country itself. You know, we are not

1:47:001:47:10

looking for an angel in a human

being, we're not looking for someone

1:47:101:47:18

who drops in from somewhere, we are

looking at a human being accepting

1:47:181:47:28

that everyone of us both strengths

and weaknesses or human foibles. But

1:47:281:47:36

you are looking at a man who at

least exhibits the courage to change

1:47:361:47:43

the way we have been doing things,

particularly in the last nine years.

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OK, what should be number one on

Cyril Ramaphosa's priority list, the

1:47:491:47:55

new president? What is the first

thing he needs to do, in your view,

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briefly?

Well, for me, the first

thing would be to remove all the

1:48:011:48:05

square pegs that are in round holes.

What does that mean in plain

1:48:051:48:10

English?

All the terrible

appointments that were made for all

1:48:101:48:18

manner of reasons, those must go.

People who are linked directly or

1:48:181:48:24

indirectly to what has gone wrong

with the ANC itself, in many

1:48:241:48:33

instances, people whose deeds and

utterances have tarnished the image

1:48:331:48:39

of ANC have got to go.

Anyone who is

a friend of Jacob Zuma, effectively?

1:48:391:48:46

That is precisely the point, yes.

That is the first thing. You cannot

1:48:461:48:53

present this country people who have

been exposed as having done all of

1:48:531:48:57

things that constitute whatever we

understand by state capture.

OK,

1:48:571:49:04

thank you very much for your time,

we are grateful, Dr Penuell Maduna,

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a member of the ANC.

1:49:091:49:13

David Haye is one of this country's

most successful boxers.

1:49:131:49:15

He's due to take to the ring again

in May for a rematch

1:49:151:49:19

with Tony Bellew after he famously,

and excruciatingly,

1:49:191:49:20

tore his Achilles

during their last fight.

1:49:201:49:24

But he's also become

a promoter, manager and a mentor

1:49:241:49:28

and is backing British

Olympic silver medaliist

1:49:281:49:29

Joe Joyce in his second

professional fight tomorrow.

1:49:291:49:33

Joe is Britain's most decorated male

amateur boxer who wants to become

1:49:331:49:36

a household name, a bit

like his old sparring

1:49:361:49:38

partner, Anthony Joshua.

1:49:381:49:47

Good morning. Thank you for coming

on the programme. Starting with

1:49:471:49:51

David, we will talk about your fight

tomorrow, but at 37... Yes, sounds

1:49:511:49:59

strange! Can your body withstand the

rigours of fighting and training?

1:49:591:50:04

Last time, it didn't. I slapped my

Achilles tendon in half,

1:50:041:50:09

reconstructive surgery, and a few

months ago, I snapped my bicep. A

1:50:091:50:13

lot of people think, no. I believe

with the right new training and

1:50:131:50:18

nutrition, I believe there are a

couple of fights left in me. Tony

1:50:181:50:23

Bellew, great fight last time, I'm

looking forward to it. Although the

1:50:231:50:27

fight did not go my way, everyone

got a good night's entertainment.

1:50:271:50:33

That is why I am in boxing, to

entertain and although I lost, it

1:50:331:50:38

was an entertaining fight. We will

do it all over again at the O2

1:50:381:50:42

Arena. You're not in boxing win

estimate

I am in boxing to win. I

1:50:421:50:48

had one leg and I was still swinging

to the brim to the bitter end. --

1:50:481:50:57

you are not in boxing to win? A lot

of people do not believe I have it,

1:50:571:51:01

in my heart, I believe I do, I am in

boxing to prove I am the best.

I

1:51:011:51:08

think you have fought three times in

six years.

Yes. On paper...

My

1:51:081:51:15

eyebrows are here.

On paper, not

good. When Muhammad Ali went to

1:51:151:51:22

fight George Foreman, he had lost a

couple of big fights, yet George

1:51:221:51:27

Foreman had knocked them out, they

said, no chance, too old, he turned

1:51:271:51:31

it around, his legacy was on winning

the fight is on paper he should not

1:51:311:51:37

win. If I win the fights I have left

in me, it will solidify my legacy as

1:51:371:51:43

one of the best British fighters

ever.

Muhammad Ali, your hero. His

1:51:431:51:50

career, he perhaps left it too late

to walk away, you do not want to do

1:51:501:51:55

the same.

100%. The difference with

me, even my last fight I lost, I did

1:51:551:52:00

not take that many head shots, I

have very good defence, slip and

1:52:001:52:04

slide, I will know when it is time

to step away from the ring. In

1:52:041:52:12

training, I'm doing things I have

never done before, a new coach, and

1:52:121:52:17

we have brought over Joe's coach

over from Las Vegas, I have a new

1:52:171:52:22

lease of life, really enjoying it.

Definitely not time to retire.

1:52:221:52:27

Hello, Joe. Silver Olympic

medallist, among many titles. You

1:52:271:52:31

went pro last year, tell me about

your second professional fight

1:52:311:52:35

tomorrow.

I am going to fight Rudolf

Jozic. He will be strong. Six foot

1:52:351:52:46

five. He can bang. It will be a

really entertaining fight.

Is it? I

1:52:461:52:54

have read a lot in the run-up to

this, everybody seems to be saying

1:52:541:52:59

it will be very straightforward for

you and not potentially as

1:52:591:53:02

challenging as your first

professional fight?

Possibly. But he

1:53:021:53:07

is heavyweight and I have to be on

my... I have to be switched on, not

1:53:071:53:13

take any silly shots, perform to the

best of my ability, and I will

1:53:131:53:18

obviously come through, should I do

that.

OK. Obviously, I want to ask

1:53:181:53:25

you about the silver medal, 2016,

many felt the judges robbed you of

1:53:251:53:30

gold, is that still brought with

you?

No, I have moved on. Nearly two

1:53:301:53:38

years ago.

-- is that still raw for

you?

I came back with an Olympic

1:53:381:53:45

medal. I felt I put everything in

and unfortunately, I did not get the

1:53:451:53:51

gold medal which I aim to do at the

time and it was my long-term dream,

1:53:511:53:56

but I am an Olympian and I will make

an impact in professional boxing. I

1:53:561:54:03

will just concentrate on that now.

Given your options, looking around

1:54:031:54:07

the professional world, why did you

link up with David and his

1:54:071:54:12

promotional outfit?

I like to be a

bit different and I felt David is

1:54:121:54:19

very good at self-promotion and I

kind of wanted to do something

1:54:191:54:27

different and I felt he had a lot to

offer and to teach me, alongside

1:54:271:54:35

Richard who was currently running

Ringo -- Ringstar.

Where do you both

1:54:351:54:51

stand on Anthony Joshua?

I only got

on the GB team after he had

1:54:511:54:57

qualified for London, so then he

went before me and he had his

1:54:571:55:06

Olympics and then it was my turn to

represent the country at Rio Games.

1:55:061:55:17

Obviously, I had seen how he was

doing in his pro career, I did a lot

1:55:171:55:21

of round sparring on the GB team, so

we have helped each other along the

1:55:211:55:29

way because obviously having him as

a sparring partner, getting ready

1:55:291:55:34

for major championships like

Europeans, worlds, Olympic Games,

1:55:341:55:38

great to have a world champion to

spark because I know any opponent I

1:55:381:55:44

may face may not be quite as good --

to spar. Great to have someone on

1:55:441:55:52

that level to challenge me so when I

am at the competitions, it is a lot

1:55:521:55:56

easier.

How do you rate Anthony

Joshua?

Brilliant. Undefeated, 20

1:55:561:56:03

fights, 20 knockouts, he has won in

an exciting manner, he is the ideal

1:56:031:56:10

heavyweight champion, young,

probably ten years younger than me.

1:56:101:56:12

He has led a boom in British boxing.

He has, injected in the youth, the

1:56:121:56:18

young kids coming through, they see

him, they aspire to be the next

1:56:181:56:22

Anthony Joshua. I'm 37, ten years

older...

If you beat Tony Bellew,

1:56:221:56:30

could you fight Anthony Joshua?

For

me, I would be such an underdog.

You

1:56:301:56:36

would.

How do you build your legacy

without fights like that? No good

1:56:361:56:41

fighting people everyone knows I

will beat. If I beat someone three

1:56:411:56:47

inches taller, ten years younger,

three stone heavier, that will leave

1:56:471:56:50

a legacy. The biggest possible

fights for me and the most dangerous

1:56:501:56:55

fights are the ones I have gone

after. For instance, when I won ten

1:56:551:57:02

years ago, no one thought I could

beat him, I did it. A lot of people

1:57:021:57:07

now remember that huge fight. I want

the biggest fights in the most

1:57:071:57:10

exciting fights.

Are you addicted?

Do you need the money?

No. I have

1:57:101:57:18

been very comfortable for a while.

It gets beyond the financial thing,

1:57:181:57:22

it becomes a legacy thing, how you

are remembered in years to come. I

1:57:221:57:26

have always loved the thought of

being a massive underdog. I always

1:57:261:57:30

liked that, I liked to go against

the grain and take the fights people

1:57:301:57:36

do not expect.

Finally, I want to

ask you, if I may, the women who go

1:57:361:57:41

into the ring between each round

holding up a sign, you know motor

1:57:411:57:45

racing has got rid of them, should

boxing get rid of that ring girls?

1:57:451:57:49

As far as I have been in boxing,

they have been there, telling you

1:57:491:57:56

the round, useful tool between

rounds, you are so connected to the

1:57:561:58:01

fight, you forget what brand it is,

the girl gets up...

Practical use,

1:58:011:58:05

but what about...

Where else do you

find out what the round is? No

1:58:051:58:11

screens in the smaller fights.

Men

could do it.

In Sweden, there was a

1:58:111:58:18

female world champion, she had ring

men.

It works both ways. Good luck

1:58:181:58:23

for tomorrow night. Good luck in

May. Thank you very much for coming

1:58:231:58:27

on the programme. Thanks for

watching. We are back tomorrow

1:58:271:58:33

Victoria speaks to the parents of Beth Shipsey, a 21-year-old woman who died after taking illegal weight loss pills.

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Plus boxer David Haye turns mentor.


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