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Hello it's Friday, it's
9am, I'm Tina Daheley, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
welcome to the programme. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
When you get a prescription
and you pick up the treatment | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
you expect it's the right drug, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
but too often it isn't
and it's costing lives. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
New research suggests mistakes
could be linked to up | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
to 22,000 deaths in England. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:28 | |
We are seeing four to five deaths
every single day because of errors | 0:00:28 | 0:00:35 | |
in prescription or dispensing or the
monitoring of medications. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
And I'll be talking to the Health
Secretary Jeremy Hunt at 9.15am. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:44 | |
From fighting fit, to fighting
for his life, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:50 | |
a mystery virus left former England
footballer Andy Cole | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
in need of a kidney transplant. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:53 | |
His nephew Alexander stepped
in and saved his life | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
by donating one of his. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
We'll hear their story here
on the programme in the next hour. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
The number of people being attacked
by acid is three times higher than | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
in 2013, we will hear from two
survivors who tell us what impact | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
the attacks have had on them. And a
care home for the elderly has been | 0:01:08 | 0:01:15 | |
holding pole dancing displays for
its residents. And despite criticism | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
from some, it has said it will
consider holding more. And so we | 0:01:17 | 0:01:26 | |
shall be speaking with a couple of
pole dancers. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
Hello, welcome to the programme,
we're live until 11am this morning. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
In a few minutes' time,
we're going to be talking | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
about organ donation with the former
England footballer Andy Cole. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
Andy's life was saved
when his nephew gave him his kidney. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:43 | |
Today, MPs are debating a new Bill
which would introduce an opt-out | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
organ donor system in England, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:47 | |
where people are registered
as a potential donor | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
unless they state otherwise. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:50 | |
So what do you think? | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
We'd like to hear from you if you've
benefited from an organ donation, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
or maybe you're a donor or on the
organ transplant waiting list. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
Do get in touch on this
all the stories we're talking | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
about this morning, use
the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
If you text, you will be charged
at the standard network rate. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:10 | |
Our top story today, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
mistakes in giving medicine out,
the wrong pills or the wrong dose, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
are costing lives in England. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
GPs, pharmacists, hospitals and care
homes may be making millions | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
of errors a year according
to a new study | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
and could be a factor
in more than 22,000 deaths. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt
says this level of harm is appalling | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
and he's going to act. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:37 | |
The report covers mistakes
made in the prescribing, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
dispensing and administering
of medication in England. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
These could involve
GPs, pharmacists, care | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
homes and hospitals. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
The research is one of the first
exercises of its kind. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
It found that medication errors
could cause around 1,700 deaths | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
per year and perhaps contribute
to up to 22,000 deaths. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
The cost to the NHS could be around
£1.6 billion a year. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
It does note that the vast majority
of prescriptions dispensed | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
on the NHS are safe and mistakes do
occur in all health care systems. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
The Health and Social Care Secretary
Jeremy Hunt said it was a far bigger | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
problem globally than has so far
been recognised, causing appalling | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
levels of harm and death. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:18 | |
Plans to tackle the problem include
introducing electronic prescribing | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
systems in hospitals designed
to cut mistakes. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
The National Pharmacy Association
said it welcomed the focus | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
on reducing medication errors,
but that a culture of learning, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
rather than blame, was needed. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:28 | |
Hugh Pym, BBC News. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:38 | |
A short while ago we spoke with
Jeremy Hunt, near is what he has had | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
to say. Twin four and five people
die every single day because of | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
these errors, so what are we doing?
We know that if we move to | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
electronic prescribing systems
rather than paper-based systems that | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
we still have, then you can
eliminate around half of errors. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:13 | |
My full interview with him
is after the news headlines. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
Get in touch, have you or somebody
in your family been wrongly | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
prescribed medication, what impact
has it had? | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
Unarmed officer who was at a Florida
school when 17 people were killed | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
has failed to intervene in the
incident and has resigned | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
subsequently. He remained outside of
the building and did not confront | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
the gunmen, it is not yet known if
criminal charges will be brought. -- | 0:04:39 | 0:04:45 | |
An armed officer who was at the
Florida school, where 17 people were | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
killed, has resigned after it
emerged he failed to intervene. . | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
Scot Peterson was facing suspension
after an investigation revealed he | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
remained outside the building and
did not confront the gunman. It's | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
not yet known whether criminal
charges will be brought. I saw a | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
deputy arrived at the west side of
building 12 and take up a position | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
and he never went in. Was he there
when the shooter was still inside | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
the building? Yes he was, he did not
go in, what he should have done was | 0:05:02 | 0:05:11 | |
going, address the killer, kill the
killer. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:17 | |
Detectives investigating two murders
in Camden earlier this week have | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
arrested an 18-year-old man. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
He was arrested in Camden
on suspicion of two counts | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
of murder and one count
of grievous bodily harm. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
The police say both murders
are being treated as linked, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
and are appealing for information | 0:05:27 | 0:05:37 | |
Two people are still being
questioned after a suspected | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
hit-and-run in Coventry, which
killed two young brothers. A man in | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
his 50s, and a woman in her 40s,
were arrested on suspicion of | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
causing death by dangerous driving
and drink-driving. A two-year-old | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
boy was pronounced dead shortly
after the incident - the death of | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
his six-year-old brother was
confirmed a couple of hours later. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:08 | |
A fourth British tourist has died
of injuries he suffered | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
in a helicopter crash
in the Grand Canyon | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
nearly a fortnight ago. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:14 | |
Jonathan Udall, who was in his
30s and from Brighton, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
was on honeymoon with his wife,
Ellie Milward when | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
the accident happened. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:19 | |
His family has been
told of his death. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Adina Campbell reports. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:22 | |
Jon Udall and Ellie Milward
were on their honeymoon. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
She has now been left
with critical injuries, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
while her friends' online post,
announcing Mr Udall's death, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
described him as strong and brave. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:30 | |
The Eurocopter EC130 crashed as it
came into land in Arizona's remote | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
Quartermaster Canyon. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
Witnesses say it spun around twice
before hitting the ground and then | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
bursting into flames. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:38 | |
Police say bad weather meant
it was more than eight hours before | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
the survivors could be
flown to hospital. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:42 | |
Stuart Hill, on the left,
is pictured here along | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
with his brother Jason,
who also died at the scene. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
Their parents say the brothers
shared an incredible bond | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
and would be deeply missed. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Jennifer Barham remains
in a critical condition | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
in hospital in Las Vegas,
as does the pilot, Scott Booth. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
Experts say possible causes
of the crash include a faulty tail | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
rotor and gusty winds. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
But it may take many
months to determine why | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
the helicopter came down
with such terrible consequences. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
Adina Campbell, BBC News. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:14 | |
Theresa May is understood to have
agreed with senior ministers, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
a position on Britain's future
relationship with the EU | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
during talks at Chequers yesterday. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:21 | |
Downing Street has given few details
but some of those present have | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
suggested that everyone was happy
with the outcome. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
One told the BBC that "there has
been an outbreak of unity for now". | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Number Ten says the Prime Minister
will set out "the way forward" next | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
week after a discussion by the full
Cabinet. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:38 | |
EU leaders are meeting today to
discuss life after Brexit, reporter | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
Adam Fleming is in Brussels. What
can you tell us about the away day | 0:07:48 | 0:07:55 | |
and what is happening? So this is a
meeting of the 27 remaining EU | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
leaders here in Brussels, Brexit is
not the theme chin but it is the | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
background music, they will be
talking about life after Brexit, as | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
you said, lots of technical things,
what do you do with the seats that | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
members of the European Parliament
have that they will no longer need, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
some will be spread around other
countries, some left in reserve, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
what do you do about hiring a
replacement for the president of the | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
European Commission, Jean-Claude
Juncker, whose term of office ends | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
just after Brexit happens next year,
coincidentally. The real big one, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:31 | |
how do you fill the Brexit sized
hole that will appear in the | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
multi-annual budget of the EU from
2021 onwards, they reckon it is £13 | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
billion and there will be months and
months of arguments about that, do | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
you raise new money? Find new ways?
Ask countries that pay into the | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
budget to pay more? They are not
happy about that. Ask countries who | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
receive money from the budget to
receive less, they are not happy | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
about that. There will be a brief
update from the president of the | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
European Council, Donald Tusk, who
chairs these meetings, about the | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
next thinking about the next phase,
which will be about trade and the | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
future relationship, which will not
really get started until the next | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
time these guys meet, which will be
the end of next month. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
MPs will debate a bill later
which would introduce a national | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
"opt-out" system for organ
donation in England. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
A private member's bill presented
by Labour MP Geoffrey Robinson | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
would mean people who did not
want to donate their organs | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
would have to opt out. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:27 | |
The Bill would need cross
party support to have any | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
chance of progressing. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
The way we eat and drink is almost
as much of a factor in tooth | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
erosion as what we consume,
according to new research. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Scientists at King's College London
found acidic food and drink | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
can wear teeth down, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
especially if people
snack continually. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
Our health correspondent,
Catherine Burns reports. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
Sipping, swilling, and nibbling,
researchers think one in six of us | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
have habits like this,
and they are bad | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
news for your teeth. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
When it comes to dentist visits,
the main worries tend to be | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
fillings or gum disease,
but this report says | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
we should also be thinking
about erosive tooth wear. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
It is when acid eats away
at the teeth, making them | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
chip or get shorter. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
If you tend to play with things
in your mouth, or you if you tend | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
to chop pieces of fruit up slowly
and nibble on them over a few | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
minutes as opposed to just eating
them as a whole fruit, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:22 | |
if you're doing these behaviours
on a daily basis for years | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
and years and years,
you can cause serious | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
damage to your teeth,
and that serious damage can mean | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
that your whole mouth
needs to be rebuilt. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:32 | |
Treatment takes an average
of more than 20 months | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
at a cost of £4500 on the NHS
and almost £14,000 privately. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
Prevention is key. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
One part of that is cutting back
on acidic food and drinks. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:52 | |
Some of the healthy choices we make
might be good for us overall, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
but they can erode your teeth. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
This report mentions adding a slice
of lemon or lime to your water, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
sugar-free soft drinks,
drinking fruit teas, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
and snacking on fruit. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Take these grapes, for example. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
If you were to eat ten or 20
of them in one sitting, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
that would be one acid attack
on your teeth. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
If you were to eat the same amount
over a longer period of time, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
that would be a sustained attack. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:18 | |
The advice is to be aware of overall
eating patterns and to consider | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
snacks that are less acidic
and higher in calcium. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
Catherine Burns, BBC News. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:30 | |
More and 9:30am. Do get in touch
with us throughout the morning - use | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you
text, you will be charged at the | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
standard network rate. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:50 | |
Big day for men's curling, will you
be watching? Hopefully everyone will | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
be watching on BBC Two, Big Mac
shone horizon for the women's | 0:11:53 | 0:11:59 | |
curlers, that is after the men went
out, British Vogue is carried into | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
the business end of the competition,
taking on Sweden in a couple of | 0:12:02 | 0:12:08 | |
hours' time, in the semifinals,
victory would guarantee themselves | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
or gold. Eve Muirhead and her team
should be confident after knocking | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
out the defending champions, Canada,
in the last match. Things will not | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
be easy against the Swedish, they
have already beaten Great Britain | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
earlier in the around robin phase.
If the British do win, that will be | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
one better than the bronze medal
they won in the Sochi games four | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
years ago. Fingers crossed. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
I will try to catch it, 11, that is
just when I finish. How significant | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
is this first gold medal for an
athlete from Russia? Extremist | 0:12:41 | 0:12:47 | |
significant, piece of history.
Yesterday we were talking about one | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
of their athletes handing back a
medal after being found guilty of | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
doping and today, it's the complete
opposite, a stunning gold in the | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
women's singles figure skating for
the 15-year-old Alina Zagitova, who | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
had a world record score in her
short programme before an impeccable | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
routine in the free dance here. Her
training partner, the Two-time | 0:13:04 | 0:13:11 | |
reigning world champion Yevgenia
Medvedeva clearly upset with her | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
silver medal, she was the favourite
going into it, but a fantastic | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
moment for the 15-year-old, and | 0:13:18 | 0:13:19 | |
as I say, slice of Olympic history
for her. And so you'd expect her to | 0:13:19 | 0:13:31 | |
lead out the Olympic Athletes from
Russia in the closing ceremony at | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
the weekend but what flag would she
be carrying? Well there is | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
speculation that a meeting between
the International Olympic Committee | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
president Thomas Bach and an aide of
the Russian President Vladimir | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
Putin, involved discussions over
lifting the Olympic ban on the | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
country in time for the ceremony. T
may also, be of no coincidence that | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
the Russians have now paid a fine of
nearly 11 million pounds, as part of | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
their punishment. That would upset
many of the sporting bodies at the | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
games though with the question being
why not wait until Monday? -- £11 | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
million. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
Celtic are out of Europe, what went
wrong? | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers
claimed his team needed | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
to have more courage. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
But his young side will learn
from the experience. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
They crashed out of the Europa
League after a 3-1 aggregate defeat | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
against Zenit St Petersburg. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
Celtic had led 1-0
from the first leg, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
but conceded three goals
in a disappointing performance. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
They had 67% of possession
but clearly lacked a cutting edge, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
with Rodgers saying his team needed
to show more bravery to play more | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
positively going forward. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:44 | |
The Arsenal survived a scare in the
last 32 tie, it is now six years in | 0:14:44 | 0:14:50 | |
a row they have lost the home leg of
their European tie, they went 2-0 | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
down to their Swedish opponents,
Ostersunds, banks to a 3-0 first leg | 0:14:54 | 0:15:02 | |
lead and this goal from Sayed
Kolasinac, they went through, 4-2, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:07 | |
and Arsene Wenger hoping to avoid a
difficult draw for the last 16, that | 0:15:07 | 0:15:13 | |
will be taking place at midday. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
Too many mistakes and too many lives
lost, and it's got to stop. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
That's what the Health
Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
has told this programme. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
He's concerned about the findings
of new research showing that GPs, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
pharmacists, hospitals and care
homes in England may be making | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
millions of errors a year,
and could be a factor in more | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
than 22,000 deaths. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:31 | |
Mr Hunt told me this level
of harm is appalling, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
and he's going to act. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:34 | |
We are doing a lot of things but it
is | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
We are doing a lot of things but it
is important to reassure your view | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
is that this report shows that error
rates are not higher in the UK then | 0:15:43 | 0:15:50 | |
the US and other countries... One in
five when it comes to prescriptions | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
is too high? Far too high and
between four and five people die | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
every day because of these errors.
So what are we doing to sort this | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
out? We know that if you move to
electronic prescribing systems | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
rather than paper-based systems that
we still have in many hospitals, you | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
can eliminate around half of errors.
How far are you with that? Today we | 0:16:11 | 0:16:20 | |
are announcing around an extra £75
million to help hospitals, but they | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
create projects, so for example if
you try to give a drug to a pregnant | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
woman that could damage the foetus,
then you will get a contraindication | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
when you try to do that. That means
75% of hospitals at the moment do | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
not have an electronic process in
place? That is right and that is | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
what we want to put in place and
over the next five years we want all | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
hospitals to move to | 0:16:45 | 0:16:57 | |
that. He Bube talk to doctors,
pharmacists, nurses on the front | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
line, they have another wobbly, and
that is that the culture is wrong, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
that if they make a mistake when
prescribing medicine, if they forget | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
to bring down someone's dosage and
they admitted, they could get fired | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
all suffer criminal prosecution or
something like that so the other | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
thing we need to do is get the
culture right to recognise that | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
there are going to be ordinary human
errors and we need to support | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
people... But they are just words,
in a way, in a sense, having this | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
conversation today, the focus being
on how many mistakes are being made | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
by GPs, in care homes, in hospitals,
could only serve to increase blame | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
culture? Not at all, what we are
doing today is not just words, we | 0:17:30 | 0:17:42 | |
are decriminalising dispensing
errors by pharmacists, which I think | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
is something pharmacists have long
thought creates the wrong culture. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
So you are changing the law so if a
pharmacist says, I made a mistake, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
they will not be prosecuted?
Provided it is a sensible mistake, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
no room for gross negligence, but
the kinds of human errors we | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
typically see in the situation so we
are changing the law and we want to | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
look at more generally how we move
in the NHS from a blame culture to a | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
learning culture. Let me bring it
one of our viewers' questions, this | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
is from Louise, my Nan was overdosed
on heard usual medication when | 0:18:07 | 0:18:13 | |
admitted into hospital last week due
to an ever by a pharmacist, what can | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
you do to ensure this does not
happen in future and hold people | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
accountable for these very serious
actions? Two things come first... | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
Not prosecute them? We need to make
sure we learn from those mistakes | 0:18:25 | 0:18:31 | |
because they happen far too often
and at the moment very often we are | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
not because people are worried about
the consequences if they are open | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
about them so that is the first
thing we are doing. The second thing | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
is we are employing 2000 pharmacists
to work in GP surgeries because I | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
don't know if it was the case in
that particular story but very often | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
these problems happen with older
people with dementia who are on a | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
cocktail of drugs which sometimes | 0:18:54 | 0:19:05 | |
don't work well together, and what
you need to do is get an experienced | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
pharmacist to look at these
combinations of drugs and say, we | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
need to take you off those two drugs
because we think they could conflict | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
with some of the others you are
taking. What would you say in | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Louise's Ks? You are right, it is a
terrible problem, much more | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
widespread than we thought, but the
World Health Organization said today | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
that the NHS is taking the lead in
trying to tackle these problems, and | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
we certainly want to halve the
number of medication errors over the | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
next five years and hopefully avoid
a repeat of the stories. Changing | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
the culture is one thing, that is
progressive, but isn't the real | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
issue fundamentally about the NHS
being understaffed and under | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
resourced? There are | 0:19:41 | 0:19:52 | |
real staffing pressures in the NHS,
for sure, because of the pressure of | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
an ageing population, but today's
report is clear that levels of | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
medication are no higher in the NHS
and other European countries, so it | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
is about... Saying, it is not just
us, this is other countries as well, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
it is not reassuring to people in
this country. But it answers the | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
question of whether it is about NHS
staffing levels. I don't for a | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
second suggest there are not
staffing issues and we are | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
increasing the number of doctors and
nurses and training places and so | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
on, but I think it is also having
systems in place that when people | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
are busy you have got checks and
balances that can stop those | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
mistakes being made. This programme
has been exposing the problem with | 0:20:24 | 0:20:34 | |
joiner or mesh implant over the last
year, you announced a review into | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
them, would you like to see them
banned completely? No, I have taken | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
independent advice from the Chief
Medical Officer who has looked at | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
all of the evidence and no European
country has banned mesh because | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
there are women for whom it is a
lifeline, incredibly important... | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
But there are also women crippled by
its use, unable to walk and to have | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
sex? That is why we have to have
processes in place to use it | 0:20:56 | 0:21:02 | |
inappropriate situations and that is
what this review is going to look | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
at, but we don't want to ban it
altogether because we know there are | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
other women who benefited hugely
from mesh and not just women but | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
also something that men can benefit
from in certain situations as well. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
And a quick word on Brexit, were you
at the away day and how did it go? I | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
was not there but the findings will
be brought back to the Cabinet on | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
Tuesday when we will have a
discussion. What was your sense of | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
it, didn't go well? My senses would
it -- my sense is it was a good | 0:21:29 | 0:21:40 | |
discussion and there are industries
and supply chain across continents | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
but it must always be on a voluntary
basis and we must have control of | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
our own laws. After ten o'clock this
morning we will speak to the | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
grandmother I mentioned to Jeremy
Hunt, Health Secretary, who say she | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
was overdosed on her usual
medication when she was admitted | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
into hospital last week. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:04 | |
Former England footballer Andy Cole
had an illustrious career | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
playing for top teams such
as Manchester United | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
and Newcastle United and he remains
the Premier League's third | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
all-time top scorer. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
But in 2015, at the age of 43,
Andy fell ill with a mystery virus | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
that attacked his kidneys
and left him needing a transplant. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
His 29-year-old nephew
Alexander Palmer stepped | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
in and saved Andy's life
by donating his kidney. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
The two have now recovered
but are raising awareness | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
of the importance of organ donation. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
A private members bill today
will consider whether England should | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
adopt the opt-out organ donation
system that's already | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
in place in Wales. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
I'm pleased to say Andy and his
nephew Alexander are with me now. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
Good to see you both, thank you for
coming in. My first question is, how | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
are you? A lot better than I was a
year ago, two years ago. Take me | 0:22:49 | 0:22:55 | |
back to that time, ex-footballer,
fit, healthy, on holiday in Vietnam | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
in 2015, what happened? I was having
a very nice time, got back to | 0:22:59 | 0:23:05 | |
Manchester, didn't feel particularly
well. Over three or four days, I | 0:23:05 | 0:23:11 | |
finally decided to go into hospital
with quite a bit of persuasion. What | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
were your symptoms? I was getting a
lot of water retention, a bit of | 0:23:15 | 0:23:21 | |
weight, growing and growing every
single day, so with a bit of | 0:23:21 | 0:23:27 | |
persuasion in the end I went into
the hospital and my consultant at | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
the time, still my consultant now,
basically explained to me what the | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
situation was and how bad it was at
the time. What was the situation? As | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
they explained it to you at that
time? Because this is a pretty rare | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
condition? He asked me quite a few
questions, I just remember saying to | 0:23:44 | 0:23:51 | |
him, I've not really got time, I
need to get home, and he was saying, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
well, you won't be going home. Took
a sample of my kidney, a biopsy, and | 0:23:54 | 0:24:02 | |
started to explain what he thought
it was and if I had had other | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
symptoms which could be a kidney
problem and as soon as he said that, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
every single symptom there was, and
he explained, that is one of the | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
reasons you will not be going home
for a little bit. You have already | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
mentioned the bloating, putting on
weight, what with the other | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
symptoms? Uncontrollable pick-ups,
things like that, itching, I was | 0:24:21 | 0:24:27 | |
itching like I had fleas, that was
basically the toxins in my body -- | 0:24:27 | 0:24:36 | |
uncontrollable hiccups. When you're
kidney does not work, the toxins | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
cannot be flushed out. You say you
had to be persuaded to see somebody, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:46 | |
why? They sound like a pretty bad
symptoms to me! I am a man, and I | 0:24:46 | 0:24:52 | |
think as a man we feel like we don't
need to go to hospital, doctors, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:58 | |
whatever. When you become ill, if
you believe you become vulnerable, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
and you don't want to... Admit there
is anything wrong? People say, man | 0:25:03 | 0:25:10 | |
of, get wrong with it, that is
exactly what I did. Would I do it | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
differently now? Yes. But at that
time it was like, no, I'm not going | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
to do it, I will take a couple of
paracetamol and in the morning I | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
will be good to go. And, Alex, your
nephew, it is fair to say he is the | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
reason you are sitting here now?
Yes, he is. I am forever indebted to | 0:25:27 | 0:25:34 | |
him, he knows that. I appreciate
everything he has done for me and | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
what he has gone through, the pain
he has gone through, to see me | 0:25:37 | 0:25:42 | |
recover than Alex did at the time
because I remember when I left | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
hospital I left him in the hospital.
I remember saying, if I could change | 0:25:45 | 0:25:51 | |
it, I would do, because I did not
want to see him in that pain, first | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
and foremost. Fortunately he came
round and that is why we are sitting | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
in front of you now. Alex, can you
tell me about the journey, Andy's | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
journey from the moment he was
diagnosed to the point where you | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
decided to donate your own kidney?
For me it was a straightaway thing, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
as soon as they told be about the
situation I said, help, I am more | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
than happy to help stop a no-brainer
for me. And what was the process | 0:26:15 | 0:26:21 | |
like, how do you go about donating
your kidney, would you have decided | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
you wanted to help, what happens
next? A lot of blood tests, I had | 0:26:25 | 0:26:32 | |
the test and once the test came in
and it is positive, then it is the | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
next stage, not a simple process but
a process that is worthwhile. Was it | 0:26:36 | 0:26:43 | |
an instant decision, did you think
about it and discuss it with | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
anybody? For me it was an instant
decision, I knew within my heart of | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
hearts that if I could help then I
would come straightaway. How did the | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
conversation go when you told Andy,
your uncle, that you wanted to do | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
this? He was like, no, I don't want
it, I will be OK! But after | 0:26:57 | 0:27:03 | |
persuasion he came round to the
idea. What was the operation like, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
for both of you? It was hard. For
me, it was one of those ones, you | 0:27:08 | 0:27:15 | |
know, even the day I went down for
the transplant, I was still trying | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
to convince myself I didn't need it.
I sat down with the surgeons the day | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
before and said, are you sure that I
could not have a couple more weeks? | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
They said, you have gone as far as
you can go now. Acceptance in the | 0:27:29 | 0:27:35 | |
whole situation has been very, very
tough. It is coming up to a year | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
from the transplant, I have finally
accepted that it is what it is and I | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
need to try and move on with things
as quick as possible. Before that, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
you were having dialysis? You sound
like you have a strong support | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
network around you, your nephew, you
have said that your wife was | 0:27:52 | 0:27:58 | |
overboard in what you were going to,
getting a donor in the first place | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
was down to your wife? I have got to
be honest, if she did not nag me so | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
much I would not have gone into
hospital, a couple of paracetamol is | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
and I am good to go, I was doing
that every day, so the constant | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
nagging finally got me to say, OK,
my old club doctor came to see me, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:22 | |
sent before a scam, ended up going
into the hospital to find out what | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
the situation was. Before you fell
ill and donated your kidney, were | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
you on the organ donor list, was it
something you cared about? I will be | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
brutally honest, I knew nothing
about it. When you talk about | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
organs, it is not something I
actually thought about until me | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
going through what I went through,
going into the hospital and seeing | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
different people having whatever
problems they have, it started to | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
change my perspective as well.
Knowing that you can change | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
someone's life if you do pass away
and leave your organs to someone | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
else to continue their life, that
has been a big thing for me, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
definitely. This is being debated
today in Parliament, what do you | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
think about the opt out scheme? It
is already in place in Wales. It is | 0:29:07 | 0:29:12 | |
an option, life is all about
options. Would I do it? Of course I | 0:29:12 | 0:29:18 | |
would do it, 100%. When my time
comes and I pass away, I would love | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
to do it, for sure. Alex, what do
you think? I would, for sure, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:28 | |
because it is something you don't
think about until someone falls ill | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
and then you do your research and
think about the big changes you can | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
make when you donate your organs.
A comment from Twitter, I know | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
people looking for receiving
transplants, I moved over to Wales | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
from England for university web I
have the opt-out law and I signed up | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
to be a donor, should someone needs
my help on bed then I am more than | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
happy to give life.
What would you say to people who | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
don't support changing the system we
have two and opt-out where consent | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
is given unless you opt out of it?
Naturally it is entirely up to them | 0:29:57 | 0:30:05 | |
that if you look at the grand scheme
of things, why not? I am not trying | 0:30:05 | 0:30:10 | |
to be morbid but once you pass away,
if you can help someone else | 0:30:10 | 0:30:17 | |
continue with their life, it could
be a young person, middle-aged | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
person, old person, why not? Life is
about enjoying it, if you can give | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
someone that opportunity,
definitely, for me. And, Alex, a | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
message to people watching at home?
I would say considerate, think about | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
it, because you are doing a good
thing in giving somebody the | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
opportunity to live longer, just
give it a good thought. Alex, Andy, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
thank you so much for coming in and
sharing your experiences with us. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
Still to come. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
The number of people being attacked
by acid is three times | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
higher than in 2013. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
We'll hear from two survivors
who tell us what impact | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
the attacks have had on them. | 0:30:54 | 0:31:03 | |
Our poll dancing displays in a care
home an appropriate way to entertain | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
elderly residents? -- are pole
dancing. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:24 | |
mistakes in giving medicine out,
the wrong pills or the wrong dose, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
are costing lives in England. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:36 | |
GPs, pharmacists, hospitals and care
homes may be making millions | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
of errors a year according
to a new study | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
and could be a factor
in more than 22,000 deaths. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
Jeremy Hunt says that the government
is investing in police systems which | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
could help event mistakes. -- A
study has found that mistakes made | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
in the medication given to patients
in England could be the cause of | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
seventeen-hundred deaths a year, and
could contribute to thousands more. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
-- 1700 deaths a year. The report,
commissioned by the government said | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
the number of drug errors totals 237
million cases a year. The Health and | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
Social Care Secretary, Jeremy Hunt,
said the government is investing in | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
computer systems that would help
prevent mistakes. An armed officer | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
who was at the Florida school, where
17 people were killed, has resigned | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
after it emerged he failed to
intervene. Scot Peterson was facing | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
suspension after an investigation
revealed he remained outside the | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
building and did not confront the
gunman. It's not yet known whether | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
criminal charges will be brought. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:25 | |
A fourth British tourist has died of
injuries he suffered in a helicopter | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
crash in the Grand Canyon nearly a
fortnight ago. Jonathan Udall, who | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
was in his 30s and from Brighton,
was on honeymoon with his wife, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
Ellie Milward. She and another
British woman, as well as the | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
helicopter's pilot, remain in a
critical condition in hospital. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
Detectives investigating two murders
in Camden earlier this week have | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
arrested an 18-year-old man. He was
arrested in Camden on suspicion of | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
two counts of murder and one count
of grievous bodily harm. The police | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
say both murders are being treated
as linked, and are appealing for | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
information. Theresa May is
understood to have agreed with | 0:32:51 | 0:32:52 | |
senior ministers, a position on
Britain's future relationship with | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
the EU during talks at Chequers
yesterday. Downing Street has given | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
few details but some of those
present have suggested that everyone | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
was happy with the outcome. The
Environment Secretary, Michael Gove, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
said there was a "very, very good
atmosphere". Number Ten says the | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
Prime Minister will set out "the way
forward" next week after a | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
discussion by the full Cabinet. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:06 | |
Sipping acidic drinks such as fruit
teas and flavoured water can wear | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
away teeth and damage the enamel. A
team at King's College London found | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
that drinking them between meals and
savouring them for too long | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
increased the risk of tooth erosion
from acid. The research found the | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
problem was increasing as people
snacked more. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:27 | |
Team GB's women face Sweden in the
semifinals of the curling at the | 0:33:31 | 0:33:36 | |
Olympics, after beating the
defending champions Canada, in their | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
last match, Britain will be
confident, but face a team that has | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
beaten them once already in
Pyeongchang. The winner will take | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
home at least a silver medal. There
was an historic moment in the | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
Women's singles figure skating as
15-year-old Alina Zagitova won the | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
first gold for the Olympic Athlete
from Russia. Celtic went out of | 0:33:53 | 0:33:59 | |
Europe after losing 3-1 on aggregate
to Zenit St Petersburg. But Arsenal | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
are in the draw later today despite
losing at home to Ostersund FC of | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
Sweden - a 2-1 defeat but a 4-2
aggregate win. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:18 | |
A growing number of people
are being attacked by acid. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
New figures - obtained by 5 live
investigates show there were 646 | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
acid attacks in England and Wales
last year, over three times | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
higher than in 2013. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
The majority of these attacks
were in London, followed | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
by Greater Manchester and Essex. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:32 | |
Along with 5 live Investigates,
we brought together two | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
acid attack survivors -
with very different stories - | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
to talk about the impact
the attacks have had - | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
and are still having -
on their lives... | 0:34:39 | 0:34:49 | |
In 2014, my ex paid someone to chuck
acid over me. I was a victim of acid | 0:34:57 | 0:35:10 | |
attack last year. Someone threw acid
at my face on the street while I was | 0:35:10 | 0:35:16 | |
riding my mopeds. I was attacked
three and a half years ago, almost | 0:35:16 | 0:35:26 | |
four, August, 2014, my ex-partner
paid someone to chuck acid on me | 0:35:26 | 0:35:32 | |
while I was on the way to work,
8:30am. This guy came towards me, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:38 | |
shaking a bottle. He looked me in
the eyes and gave me this look and | 0:35:38 | 0:35:43 | |
that is when he threw the acid. Half
a head of hair, my right ear, all my | 0:35:43 | 0:35:51 | |
right side. My first thing was, my
God, he has chuck water over me, and | 0:35:51 | 0:35:58 | |
seconds later, it was burning, and
it felt like I was melting. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
I was delivering food, I was a food
delivery man, I was finishing my | 0:36:06 | 0:36:13 | |
work, trying to go home, I stopped
at the traffic light. I felt water | 0:36:13 | 0:36:19 | |
on the helmet, I saw two boys with
masks on. I left my bike on the | 0:36:19 | 0:36:26 | |
street. I felt burning on my face.
One of the ladies passing by, she | 0:36:26 | 0:36:33 | |
asked me what happened. When she saw
me lying down on the pavement. I was | 0:36:33 | 0:36:41 | |
crying like a baby. I have never
cried like that. The police arrived | 0:36:41 | 0:36:46 | |
and put water on me. Where is it
hurting? Are you all right? Where is | 0:36:46 | 0:36:57 | |
it hurting, mate? Keep your eyes
open. Yeah, I kept crying for water | 0:36:57 | 0:37:04 | |
as well, that was the initial thing,
feeling burning. Someone running out | 0:37:04 | 0:37:10 | |
of the house with a bucket of water,
and I remember smoking, and for me, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:16 | |
that started the reaction again, it
was all over me. Looked down... It | 0:37:16 | 0:37:22 | |
was all burned, it was everywhere, I
can still smell that smell now, it | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
is a smell that I cannot describe.
If I did not have that water over | 0:37:26 | 0:37:32 | |
me, I would have been blind, that
water was a blessing. It was burning | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
on my chest. There was a pain all
over my body. I had to sleep all day | 0:37:37 | 0:37:46 | |
as well. I was in hospital for six
weeks. I had skin grafts, they took | 0:37:46 | 0:37:52 | |
it from my thigh, all the
operations. My right hand, my right | 0:37:52 | 0:37:58 | |
arm, right side of my head, this
hair is fake. I lost my ear and | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
minor. And then my chest. -- I lost
my ear and my neck. I realised it | 0:38:03 | 0:38:12 | |
was my ex, the key person that
planned it, I vowed that he would | 0:38:12 | 0:38:21 | |
never win, and that was the fight
that I wanted to fight back at full | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
I remember the first time I ever
cried... Everyone was crying around | 0:38:26 | 0:38:32 | |
me, but I thought, this is how
Anthony wants me, so from that | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
point, why was like, I'm not going
to do what he wants. He wanted me | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
not to go out so I went out, I am a
tacky how I was before, I did not | 0:38:40 | 0:38:47 | |
want what he had done to affect my
life. He had affected it enough | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
already. Your one is different
issues, my scarring is, I'm not | 0:38:51 | 0:39:01 | |
able... I am not able to go
anywhere, I am scared, it is | 0:39:01 | 0:39:08 | |
psychological. Weekends, I would
spend time with my friends, chill | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
out. I don't know why I cannot meet
them now, but I do not feel safe. If | 0:39:10 | 0:39:16 | |
anyone comes to my house, I am
happy, but I do not feel like it is | 0:39:16 | 0:39:24 | |
safe for me to go back to work. For
me, it is the effects of my family, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
my dad is a broken man, he is the
person I can see has changed the | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
most, I am his little girl, he was
away at the time, it was so hard | 0:39:33 | 0:39:40 | |
because my family were struggling.
And I did not know how to deal with | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
that, for me, it was like, why are
you crying, are you... What have you | 0:39:44 | 0:39:49 | |
got to cry about. Took me a while to
think about how they must be | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
feeling. | 0:39:53 | 0:40:04 | |
I did not go back to work until last
April, it has had three years, it | 0:40:04 | 0:40:09 | |
took me that long to feel that I was
ready to go back into society. I | 0:40:09 | 0:40:14 | |
needed to get back to work, it made
me feel so much better getting | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
bacteria allergy. My ex-partner got
life, minimum 13 years, he had seven | 0:40:18 | 0:40:27 | |
convictions. -- it made me feel so
much better getting back to life. My | 0:40:27 | 0:40:32 | |
attacker got seven years, he was out
last May, I don't think that is | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
justice, he is the one who scarred
me for life, I think he should have | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
got a lot longer than two years. I
am still here, no ear, half a head | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
of hair, whereas he is starting his
new life. Exactly. My attacker is | 0:40:45 | 0:40:51 | |
15. I have a sympathy for his age,
but I think he is responsible for | 0:40:51 | 0:41:00 | |
what he done. I want him to be in
jail... He should get a long | 0:41:00 | 0:41:08 | |
sentence for that. A tougher
sentence. He is probably oblivious | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
to the effects and how severe acid
is. There is no education... Robbie | 0:41:12 | 0:41:19 | |
was not educated enough to know the
severity of it. Why do they have to | 0:41:19 | 0:41:25 | |
do acid, they have got a lot of
options, why do they have to do | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
this? I think it is so easy, rather
than with a knife, with a gun, with | 0:41:28 | 0:41:35 | |
any weapon, you have got to hide it.
Liquid in a bottle... A bit of acid | 0:41:35 | 0:41:41 | |
goes on your face, you are scarred,
that second. It is severe. I have my | 0:41:41 | 0:41:48 | |
scars, I have lost my ear, the side
of my head, but I feel like it could | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
have been worse, I could have been
blind. You cannot live your life | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
based on what they have done. I
could spend all my time hating the | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
fact that he got for but where would
it get me, that sentence will be | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
what he done anyway. For yourself,
obviously, when you have the | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
sentence coming up, if it is not
something you are not happy with, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:16 | |
don't let it affect you more than it
should, it has already affected you | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
enough. Obviously, we can go to the
camera, we can speak out, but there | 0:42:20 | 0:42:27 | |
is a lot of victims that cannot show
their face now. As a community, as a | 0:42:27 | 0:42:34 | |
society, we will have the
responsibility. We should speak out | 0:42:34 | 0:42:39 | |
about it. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
And you can hear much more on that
story on the BBC Radio 5 live | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
Investigates programme
at 11 on Sunday | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
We will also be discussing further
what should be done to tackle acid | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
attacks after 10am this morning. A
couple of your comments before we | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
move on, on prescriptions, this
e-mail, two weeks ago we had a | 0:42:56 | 0:43:01 | |
letter from the local GP surgery
advising they were no longer issuing | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
electronic prescription, now we have
to take a trip every two weeks to | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
the surgery because prescriptions
now take seven days with a GP and | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
four days with a chemist. Call this
progress? And John has said, even | 0:43:12 | 0:43:18 | |
correct or electronic prescribing
will not sort out basic errors in | 0:43:18 | 0:43:23 | |
actually giving medication to
patients, my wife was recently in | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
hospital and my daughter and I, both
medically trained, had to check drug | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
charts every day, to make sure
medication had been administered. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:36 | |
One important medication was omitted
for an entire day because they had | 0:43:36 | 0:43:41 | |
run out and needed to order more.
Keep your messages coming in. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:48 | |
It's a crisis that began six months
ago and is now regarded | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
as the fastest growing humanitarian
disaster in the world. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
Hundreds of thousands
of Rohingya Muslims - | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
most of them children -
have been forced from their homes | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
fleeing violence at the hands
of the Myanmar military. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
According to aid organisation
Unicef, there are now an estimated | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
720,000 children in the camps
of southern Bangladesh | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
and Myanmar's Rakhine state. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:05 | |
With the cyclone season approaching,
the potential for yet more suffering | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
is great and Unicef are warning
the fragile camps on which the | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
children depend could be swept away. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
In a moment we'll hear from two
people working with refugees | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
on the ground in those camps,
but first here's a look at the story | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
of Mohammed Faisal -
a Bangladeshi boy who fled his home | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
when his village was
burned to the ground. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:26 | |
This video was filmed
and given to us by Unicef, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
and just a warning you might find
some of the details upsetting. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:35 | |
Let's talk now to Tun Khin,
who fled Myanmar when he was 17 | 0:45:54 | 0:45:59 | |
and now campaigns on behalf
of his fellow Rohingyas. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:04 | |
Thank you for coming in. Why did you
have to leave? I left when my age | 0:46:04 | 0:46:12 | |
was 17 and I have suffered these
things, even though my grandfather | 0:46:12 | 0:46:18 | |
was a member of Parliament, I was
not recognised as a citizen of | 0:46:18 | 0:46:23 | |
Burma. For me, I have faced
restriction of movement and I have | 0:46:23 | 0:46:28 | |
seen my friends who are not allowed
to go to university myself in Burma, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:38 | |
and Rohingyas, if we want to get
married we need to get a pass and | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
many of my friends... This is
because you are Muslim? It is | 0:46:41 | 0:46:46 | |
ethnic, religious and political
prosecution, quite a big issue, they | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
do not want to see Rangers in Burma.
They are systematically destroying | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
the Rohingya community as a
genocide, it has been a long-time | 0:46:54 | 0:46:59 | |
planned, so we have seen only six
months ago mass exodus and mass | 0:46:59 | 0:47:06 | |
killings, but going on since 1978,
so 40 years right now, this is going | 0:47:06 | 0:47:15 | |
on a long-term, we have seen
refugees 1991, 1992, 1978 we have | 0:47:15 | 0:47:23 | |
seen the 2016... So why do you
think, you are telling me that you | 0:47:23 | 0:47:28 | |
have experienced what people are
going through now, the same sort of | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
persecution. What do you think about
what is happening now, the fact that | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
the world is talking about what is
happening, things have escalated in | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
the last six months and we have
hundreds of thousands of children in | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
these camps? This is long-time
planned but first they strip our | 0:47:42 | 0:47:49 | |
ethnic breads, then our citizenship
rights, they impose restriction of | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
movement and then when the
government came to power there was | 0:47:53 | 0:48:00 | |
more anti-Rohingya campaign in cited
in Burma and military getting an | 0:48:00 | 0:48:08 | |
opportunity to eliminate and wipe
out the population. They are trying | 0:48:08 | 0:48:18 | |
to get mass killings and finally we
had only one thing, they were taking | 0:48:18 | 0:48:23 | |
away our land, they burned our
villages, massive atrocities taking | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
place there and military committed
in the Rohingya community but... We | 0:48:27 | 0:48:34 | |
can speak to somebody who is there. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
Benjamin Steinlechner
from Unicef, who's joining us | 0:48:37 | 0:48:38 | |
from his hotel half-an-hour
from a huge refugee camp. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:43 | |
Thank you for joining us this
morning. Can you give us a sense of | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
what it is like there at the moment?
It somewhat feels like the calm | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
before the storm in the camp now.
Lots of our response efforts work | 0:48:51 | 0:48:57 | |
very well, we have installed
latrines, we are able to help the | 0:48:57 | 0:49:02 | |
refugees with medical supplies,
medical services, and nutrition | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
services for the babies, basic
education and child protection | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
services. However, there is the
cyclone monsoon season looming and | 0:49:11 | 0:49:16 | |
the camp, which is terribly fast, is
built on the grounds of a former | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
Forest which is now absolutely
deprived of the forest and without | 0:49:20 | 0:49:25 | |
any routes because people have used
them for firewood. With the rain | 0:49:25 | 0:49:30 | |
coming in there are huge risks of
floods and people getting flooded, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
and of diseases spreading in the
camps. Can you mitigate for any of | 0:49:35 | 0:49:40 | |
those things, knowing that cyclone
season is approaching, what can you | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
do? So, we have already started
implementing the wells, finding out | 0:49:43 | 0:49:53 | |
where we could move some people who
are at very high risk of getting | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
flooded and we make sure some of the
major facilities that are important | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
life-saving facilities are moved to
higher places that people have easy | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
access to them. Can you tell me
about some of the children you are | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
helping and working with? What is
the sense in the camp, do people | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
feel like things are getting worse,
that things are improving? Things | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
have definitely improved for the
children. When they first came | 0:50:16 | 0:50:21 | |
during the biggest influx in August,
you could see them draw images of | 0:50:21 | 0:50:26 | |
horrific scenes, soldiers shooting
people, men hanging from trees, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
blood everywhere. Now you see
children are drawing peaceful scenes | 0:50:30 | 0:50:37 | |
of flowers and peaceful landscapes,
so you can definitely see a change | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
there. What are the diseases that
you are dealing with, what are | 0:50:41 | 0:50:45 | |
people most vulnerable to? Teams
from the UK were sent out before | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
Christmas to deal with an outbreak
of diphtheria in the camps. That is | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
very true and luckily that has been
pretty much contained because of the | 0:50:53 | 0:50:58 | |
effort of the combined effort of aid
agencies there. We are still | 0:50:58 | 0:51:03 | |
fighting malnutrition in the camps,
many children are still malnourished | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
but we are helping them through our
malnutrition centres giving them | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
highly nutritious peanut paste to
get them back to a healthy state. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
You have been there for three months
working on the ground with people | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
trying to help them. In terms of the
international effort, what more | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
could the global community be doing
to help? Our efforts need to be | 0:51:23 | 0:51:30 | |
stepped up. As I mentioned, with the
monsoon coming in, it does feel like | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
the calm before the storm and this
is an underfunded crisis and we need | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
more help from around the world to
respond to the imminent needs of the | 0:51:38 | 0:51:43 | |
Rohingya people here. OK, then, for
now, thank you. Tun, I want to come | 0:51:43 | 0:51:48 | |
back to you, do you have family
living there at the moment, do you | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
speak to people? I have some
relatives in Northern Rakhine state | 0:51:52 | 0:51:59 | |
facing starvation, threatened by
military and security forces and | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
even yesterday some houses burned
down, some of my friends messaged | 0:52:03 | 0:52:10 | |
me. The military and Burmese
government is trying to get all | 0:52:10 | 0:52:15 | |
Rohingya out from Burma, that is
their plan, another 500 to 600,000 | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
left only so every day they cannot
access the race though, cannot | 0:52:19 | 0:52:25 | |
access the fishing, they have no
right to move through markets, and | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
the situation is getting much, much
worse. Six months, no government has | 0:52:29 | 0:52:34 | |
taken any action to stop this
genocide. It is very disappointing. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:40 | |
What do you think the government
should be doing here, you are from | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
Myanmar but live in the UK, what
should the Government be doing? The | 0:52:43 | 0:52:48 | |
Government must bring this
responsible who committed genocide, | 0:52:48 | 0:52:54 | |
military and other murderers, must
be brought to the International | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
criminal Court, those who are
complicit in this genocide. Also it | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
is important that we need to look
for a prominent solution, we also | 0:53:01 | 0:53:07 | |
need to call for a global arms
embargo for Burma and also the UN, a | 0:53:07 | 0:53:21 | |
lot of people talking about
repatriations, I was there a few | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
days ago in Bangladesh, I have met
recently people who fled from Burma. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:30 | |
The situation is still the same, so
how can you return back these | 0:53:30 | 0:53:35 | |
refugees when people are still
fleeing? So in Burma, Rohingyas | 0:53:35 | 0:53:40 | |
cannot go back without any
protection of international level, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:46 | |
that is UN protection, which is much
needed to save the lives of | 0:53:46 | 0:53:51 | |
Rohingya. Tun, thank you for coming
in to talk to us, I am sure we will | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
revisit this subject again in the
future. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
Let's return out into the inquiry
into lasting's Florida school | 0:53:57 | 0:54:02 | |
shooting, which ranks as the second
deadliest ever | 0:54:02 | 0:54:03 | |
at a US public school. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:08 | |
Now it's emerged that an armed guard
was on duty at the school | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
in Parkland where 17 people
were shot dead, | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
and did not intervene. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:14 | |
Scot Peterson, who has now resigned,
remained outside the building | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
and failed to confront the gunman. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:22 | |
Scot Petersen was absolutely
on-campus through this entire event. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
He was armed, he was in uniform. But
what I saw was a deputy arrive at | 0:54:25 | 0:54:35 | |
the west side of building 12, take
up a position, and he never went in. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:46 | |
A care home in Dorset is facing
critism after it emerged staff hired | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
pole dancers as entertainment
for its elderly residents. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
Pictures from the performance
show elderly residents - | 0:54:53 | 0:55:03 | |
both male and female,
and their families - | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
watching the dancers acrobatically
spin around a metal pole | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
in sports bras and knickers. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:08 | |
It's been branded 'inappropriate'
by local councillors, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
who said they were 'staggered'
by the choice of entertainment. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
But bosses at the home in
Christchurch defended its decision. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:16 | |
Let's speak now to Eleanor Spry,
who owns Pole Crazy - | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
some of her students took part. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:24 | |
With me in the studio is Sam Cane
from Pole Fit London, he's one of | 0:55:24 | 0:55:33 | |
the UK's top poll instructors.
Eleanor, first of all, how did this | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
come about? It was a bit of fun.
Someone from the care home said to | 0:55:36 | 0:55:43 | |
one of my instructors, the residents
are looking for something a bit more | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
interesting and diverse, would you
like to come and do a performance, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
and that was it, that is what we
did. It was a Sunday afternoon, just | 0:55:49 | 0:55:54 | |
some light-hearted entertainment.
Were you surprised they had come to | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
you with this request? Have you had
anything like it before? We have | 0:55:57 | 0:56:02 | |
done public performances, so we have
done community fates in the area, | 0:56:02 | 0:56:09 | |
not specifically a care home. So I
wasn't overly surprised, sometimes | 0:56:09 | 0:56:15 | |
it is difficult with the logistics
of getting the poll there but there | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
was no, oh my goodness, what are we
doing. What was the response from | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
the residents? Loved it, four rounds
of applause. The girls love | 0:56:23 | 0:56:28 | |
performing and I think the residents
saw that, they saw how much they | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
enjoyed putting on a show for them
and they have asked us to go back, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:36 | |
so I can only assume that they
enjoyed it that much. Did you get | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
any negativity? I know this was an
optional activity for the residents | 0:56:40 | 0:56:44 | |
to attend, they did not will have to
watch it, they could come along if | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
they wanted to. Negativity from the
residents? From the care home beyond | 0:56:47 | 0:56:55 | |
that? We will come to the outside
criticism, but no one from there? | 0:56:55 | 0:57:00 | |
But what do you make of criticism
from local councillors? Dorset | 0:57:00 | 0:57:04 | |
County Council told the Bournemouth
Echo, it is not really the sort of | 0:57:04 | 0:57:09 | |
entertainment would have thought
that the residents wanted all would | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
have encouraged. That is more a
critic of the residents, isn't it, | 0:57:11 | 0:57:17 | |
that is trying to think for them.
They requested it, we performed, | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
that is the end of the story for me.
They have covered it with this | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
notion of what pole dancing is, we
have proved time and time again that | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
pole dancing is far more diverse and
here we are, with people who you | 0:57:29 | 0:57:34 | |
would assume would maybe frown upon
it or have connotations of it and | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
they are not, they are so
open-minded and we can learn from | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
those burdens. Some, there has been
criticism of it being too sexual, do | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
you take that on board? When it
comes down to it, it is very much a | 0:57:44 | 0:57:49 | |
fitness thing, you can do it in
different styles but this kind of | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
performance was fitness -based, very
acrobatic spaced, so in that respect | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
it is not so much sexualised, it is
more of a sport, a performance. What | 0:57:56 | 0:58:03 | |
do you make of the creditors and? I
can always understand where the | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
criticism comes from but I think it
is now reminded. People don't take | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
into account the progression of
where we have come with the sport | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
and the different level that is
taken. We can show our viewers some | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
pictures of you. Do you think part
of the criticism is down to the fact | 0:58:17 | 0:58:23 | |
that this is an elderly audience and
that is where people, some people | 0:58:23 | 0:58:30 | |
are saying it is inappropriate? Do
you think they would have responded | 0:58:30 | 0:58:34 | |
the same if it was a group of
younger people? They probably would | 0:58:34 | 0:58:37 | |
not have responded the same way, no,
but in the same way elderly people | 0:58:37 | 0:58:43 | |
are people as well and they can have
their own fun. You look like you are | 0:58:43 | 0:58:49 | |
having fun, very agile! How common
are male pole dancers? Very common, | 0:58:49 | 0:58:55 | |
lots of competitions around the
world have male categories. In my | 0:58:55 | 0:59:00 | |
school, Pole Fit London, male
students take up 30 to 40% of the | 0:59:00 | 0:59:03 | |
overall student so it is quite
common to have men. Do you get a | 0:59:03 | 0:59:07 | |
range of ages? Absolutely, a range
of ages and body types, we get | 0:59:07 | 0:59:12 | |
everyone coming through our doors,
so we have kids classes, classes for | 0:59:12 | 0:59:16 | |
people that are as old as want to
take part, there is no limit in that | 0:59:16 | 0:59:21 | |
respect. Eleanor, if we can get you
back again, is Alan is still there? | 0:59:21 | 0:59:27 | |
Yes, I near! Are you planning to put
on any more events like this? Could | 0:59:27 | 0:59:34 | |
this be a new line of work for you,
performing at care homes across the | 0:59:34 | 0:59:39 | |
country?! Absolutely! Why not?!
Let's liven them up! Moving art and | 0:59:39 | 0:59:46 | |
craft and gardening to one side,
pole dancing seems to be the way | 0:59:46 | 0:59:49 | |
forward!
Thank you both for coming to talk to | 0:59:49 | 0:59:52 | |
us. If the Nichols, operations
manager from the care home, told us | 0:59:52 | 0:59:56 | |
in a statement, our residents
requested through regular meetings | 0:59:56 | 0:59:59 | |
with them that we include more
modern entertainment and activities. | 0:59:59 | 1:00:03 | |
Dementia residents and non-dementia
residents are really enjoyed the | 1:00:03 | 1:00:07 | |
artistic display of musicality and
gymnastic ability, and the Showcase | 1:00:07 | 1:00:12 | |
received overwhelming positive
feedback from relatives. Time to get | 1:00:12 | 1:00:16 | |
the latest weather. | 1:00:16 | 1:00:22 | |
As temperatures take a significant
dip through the weekend, any | 1:00:22 | 1:00:27 | |
physical activity would be a good
idea! LAUGHTER | 1:00:27 | 1:00:30 | |
You may have heard about the beast
from the east, it means very cold | 1:00:31 | 1:00:35 | |
weather is on the way next week, in
fact, bitterly cold, when you factor | 1:00:35 | 1:00:39 | |
in the wind, daytime temperatures
for a time next week barely above | 1:00:39 | 1:00:43 | |
freezing, may feel like it is minus
and double figures with the wind | 1:00:43 | 1:00:47 | |
chill, and snow in the forecast for
eastern areas. That is next week. | 1:00:47 | 1:00:53 | |
This weekend, it is all quiet
compared with that, and lots of | 1:00:53 | 1:00:58 | |
sunshine this weekend, but protect
yourself against the cold wind, very | 1:00:58 | 1:01:01 | |
much part of the weather. Is breezy
out there, southern and western | 1:01:01 | 1:01:07 | |
parts in particular, some areas of
cloud particularly through the | 1:01:07 | 1:01:09 | |
eastern side of England, one or two
light showers. Rather cloudy. Many | 1:01:09 | 1:01:17 | |
places will have good breaks, cloud
allowing some of the sunshine to | 1:01:17 | 1:01:21 | |
come through, temperatures around
three to six Celsius, factoring in | 1:01:21 | 1:01:23 | |
the breeze, and feeling colder than
that. Coming through tonight, large | 1:01:23 | 1:01:28 | |
holes in the cloud will allow the
temperature to get away for a | 1:01:28 | 1:01:31 | |
widespread frost, this morning
starting at -7, rural Oxfordshire. | 1:01:31 | 1:01:37 | |
Tomorrow morning, some spots will be
as low as that, Northern Ireland may | 1:01:37 | 1:01:40 | |
stay above that, cloud and breeze
here. For many of us, cold, frosty | 1:01:40 | 1:01:46 | |
start to the weekend. Saturday,
sunshine to come, some cloud around, | 1:01:46 | 1:01:51 | |
maybe Northern Ireland, far
south-west of England, for most | 1:01:51 | 1:01:55 | |
places, there will be a lot of
sunshine to come, not doing anything | 1:01:55 | 1:01:59 | |
for the temperature, getting cold on
Sunday and into next week. | 1:01:59 | 1:02:02 | |
Hello it's Friday, it's 10
o'clock, I'm Tina Daheley. | 1:02:06 | 1:02:08 | |
Mistakes made in the medication
given to patients in England | 1:02:08 | 1:02:10 | |
could be the cause of 17-hundred
deaths a year. | 1:02:10 | 1:02:12 | |
The Health Secretary says
the government is investing | 1:02:12 | 1:02:14 | |
in online e-prescriptions
to prevent mistakes. | 1:02:14 | 1:02:16 | |
We'll be speaking to a patient
who ended up overdosing | 1:02:16 | 1:02:18 | |
after being given the wrong amount
of her medication. | 1:02:18 | 1:02:22 | |
Today we are investing money to help
hospitals progress, around only one | 1:02:24 | 1:02:28 | |
quarter have those systems in place
at the moment. | 1:02:28 | 1:02:33 | |
We'll be speaking to a patient
who ended up overdosing | 1:02:33 | 1:02:36 | |
after being given the wrong amount
of her medication. | 1:02:36 | 1:02:38 | |
From fighting fit,
to fighting for his life, | 1:02:38 | 1:02:40 | |
a mystery virus left former England
footballer Andy Cole in need | 1:02:40 | 1:02:42 | |
of a kidney transplant. | 1:02:42 | 1:02:43 | |
His nephew Alexander stepped
in and saved his life | 1:02:43 | 1:02:45 | |
by donating one of his. | 1:02:45 | 1:02:48 | |
Going into the hospital and seeing
all the different people having | 1:02:48 | 1:02:52 | |
whatever problems they had, that's
changed my perspective. Knowing you | 1:02:52 | 1:02:55 | |
can change someone's life, if you do
pass away, and leave organs to | 1:02:55 | 1:03:00 | |
someone else, I think that has been
a big thing for me, definitely. | 1:03:00 | 1:03:07 | |
Today, MPs will debate changing the
law so that presumed consent on | 1:03:07 | 1:03:11 | |
organ transplant can be made legal.
650 acid attacks last year, we will | 1:03:11 | 1:03:19 | |
be finding out why this crime is on
the rise. Snapchat loses £1 billion | 1:03:19 | 1:03:26 | |
from stock market value as one of
its most influential users, Kylie | 1:03:26 | 1:03:29 | |
Jenner, tweets that she no longer
uses the social media site. | 1:03:29 | 1:03:39 | |
A study has found that mistakes made
in the medication for patients in | 1:03:48 | 1:03:52 | |
England could be the cause of 1700
deaths every year and contribute to | 1:03:52 | 1:03:57 | |
thousands more, the report
commissioned by the government says | 1:03:57 | 1:03:59 | |
the number of drugs errors totalled
237 million cases every year, the | 1:03:59 | 1:04:03 | |
health and social care secretary
Jeremy Hunt says the government is | 1:04:03 | 1:04:09 | |
investing in computer system that
would help to prevent mistakes. | 1:04:09 | 1:04:18 | |
An armed officer who
was at a Florida school | 1:04:18 | 1:04:20 | |
when 17 people were killed | 1:04:20 | 1:04:21 | |
has failed to intervene
in the incident and has | 1:04:21 | 1:04:23 | |
resigned subsequently. | 1:04:23 | 1:04:25 | |
Scot Peterson was facing suspension
after an investigation revealed | 1:04:25 | 1:04:27 | |
he remained outside the building
and did not confront the gunman. | 1:04:27 | 1:04:29 | |
It's not yet known whether criminal
charges will be brought. | 1:04:29 | 1:04:33 | |
A fourth British tourist has died
of injuries he suffered | 1:04:33 | 1:04:36 | |
in a helicopter crash
in the Grand Canyon | 1:04:36 | 1:04:37 | |
nearly a fortnight ago. | 1:04:37 | 1:04:38 | |
Jonathan Udall, who was in his
30s and from Brighton, | 1:04:38 | 1:04:41 | |
was on honeymoon with his wife,
Ellie Milward when | 1:04:41 | 1:04:43 | |
the accident happened. | 1:04:43 | 1:04:44 | |
His family has been
told of his death. | 1:04:44 | 1:04:51 | |
Detectives investigating two murders
in Camden earlier this week have | 1:04:57 | 1:04:59 | |
arrested an 18-year-old man. | 1:04:59 | 1:05:00 | |
He was arrested in Camden
on suspicion of two counts | 1:05:00 | 1:05:02 | |
of murder and one count
of grievous bodily harm. | 1:05:02 | 1:05:05 | |
The police say both murders
are being treated as linked, | 1:05:05 | 1:05:07 | |
and are appealing for information | 1:05:07 | 1:05:11 | |
Theresa May is understood to have
agreed with senior ministers, | 1:05:11 | 1:05:14 | |
a position on Britain's future
relationship with the EU | 1:05:14 | 1:05:16 | |
during talks at Chequers yesterday. | 1:05:16 | 1:05:17 | |
Downing Street has given few
details but some of those | 1:05:17 | 1:05:19 | |
present have suggested that everyone
was happy with the outcome. | 1:05:19 | 1:05:22 | |
The Environment Secretary,
Michael Gove, said there | 1:05:22 | 1:05:23 | |
was a "very, very good atmosphere". | 1:05:24 | 1:05:25 | |
Number Ten says the Prime Minister
will set out "the way forward" next | 1:05:25 | 1:05:28 | |
week after a discussion by the full
Cabinet. | 1:05:28 | 1:05:35 | |
MPs will debate a bill which will
introduce a national opt out system | 1:05:35 | 1:05:39 | |
for organ donation in England, a
private members bill presented by | 1:05:39 | 1:05:44 | |
Labour MP Geoffrey Robinson will
mean that those who do not want to | 1:05:44 | 1:05:46 | |
donate organs will have do opt out,
the bill will need cross-party | 1:05:46 | 1:05:50 | |
support to have any chance of
progressing. | 1:05:50 | 1:05:56 | |
Sipping acidic drinks such as fruit
teas and flavoured water can wear | 1:05:56 | 1:05:59 | |
away teeth and damage the enamel. | 1:05:59 | 1:06:00 | |
A team at King's College London
found that drinking them | 1:06:00 | 1:06:02 | |
between meals and savouring them
for too long increased the risk | 1:06:02 | 1:06:05 | |
of tooth erosion from acid. | 1:06:05 | 1:06:06 | |
The research found the problem was
increasing as people snacked more. | 1:06:06 | 1:06:13 | |
Get in touch with us throughout the
morning, use the hashtag, Victoria | 1:06:16 | 1:06:22 | |
live, if you text us, you will be
charged at the standard network | 1:06:22 | 1:06:25 | |
rate. | 1:06:25 | 1:06:27 | |
Less than one hour away from the
crucial match for Team GB's women's | 1:06:27 | 1:06:32 | |
curlers at the Winter Olympics. BBC
One or online, we will see Great | 1:06:32 | 1:06:36 | |
Britain taking on Sweden for a place
in the gold-medal match. Skipper Eve | 1:06:36 | 1:06:41 | |
Muirhead and the team should be
confident, knocking out the | 1:06:41 | 1:06:44 | |
defending champions Canada in the
last match. Things will not be easy | 1:06:44 | 1:06:47 | |
for them, beaten by the Swedish ones
already during the round robin | 1:06:47 | 1:06:51 | |
phase. If the British win, it will
be one better than the bronze they | 1:06:51 | 1:06:55 | |
won in the Saatchi games four years
ago. And Switzerland have already | 1:06:55 | 1:07:00 | |
beaten Canada to take the bronze in
the men's medal match. Canada were | 1:07:00 | 1:07:03 | |
the defending champions and like
their women's team miss out on any | 1:07:03 | 1:07:05 | |
medal at all. Another athlete
representing the Olympic Athletes | 1:07:05 | 1:07:09 | |
from Russia has tested positive for
a banned substance at Pyeongchang. | 1:07:09 | 1:07:11 | |
The Russian Bobsleigh Federation has
confirmed Nadezhda Sergeeva, who | 1:07:11 | 1:07:13 | |
finished 12th in the two-woman bob,
is under investigation. | 1:07:13 | 1:07:24 | |
But, an extremely significant
gold medal overnight, | 1:07:29 | 1:07:33 | |
a first for an Olympic Athlete
from Russia, a stunning gold | 1:07:33 | 1:07:39 | |
in the Women's singles figure
skating for the 15-year-old | 1:07:39 | 1:07:42 | |
Alina Zagitova, who had a world
record score in her short programme | 1:07:42 | 1:07:45 | |
before an impeccable routine
in the free dance here. | 1:07:45 | 1:07:47 | |
Her training partner,
the Two-time reigning world champion | 1:07:47 | 1:07:49 | |
YEvgenia Medvedeva though,
clearly upset with her silver medal | 1:07:49 | 1:07:51 | |
as she was the favourite
going into it but a fanstic moment | 1:07:51 | 1:07:54 | |
for young Zagitova
and of course a slice | 1:07:54 | 1:07:56 | |
of Olymnpic history for her. | 1:07:56 | 1:08:03 | |
In the women's ski cross overnight,
Britain's Emily Sarsfield got | 1:08:03 | 1:08:06 | |
through her first heat on final's
day. That was thanks in part to a | 1:08:06 | 1:08:10 | |
big crash for one of her opponents.
But sadly, she was knocked out in | 1:08:10 | 1:08:13 | |
the next race. Still, a great
achievement from Emily given she's | 1:08:13 | 1:08:15 | |
had no funding and worked three jobs
just to compete at an Olympics. To | 1:08:15 | 1:08:26 | |
eventually get here after upsets of
multiple knee surgeries and whatever | 1:08:26 | 1:08:29 | |
else it might be, and working three
jobs in the summer and staff, it is | 1:08:29 | 1:08:34 | |
huge to be stood on the line and the
big thing is to have fun. Ski cross | 1:08:34 | 1:08:40 | |
is such a good sport, I hope I have
put it on the map, that is what I | 1:08:40 | 1:08:45 | |
wanted to do. Emily did not make it
but there was a brilliant final, in | 1:08:45 | 1:08:52 | |
the ski cross as Canada continued
their dominance of the event. First | 1:08:52 | 1:08:55 | |
and second place for them - Kelsey
Serwa and Brittany Phelan with gold | 1:08:55 | 1:08:57 | |
and silver. | 1:08:57 | 1:09:05 | |
Away from South Korea, Celtic boss
Brendan Rodgers claimed his team | 1:09:05 | 1:09:07 | |
needed to have more courage but they
will learn from the experience as | 1:09:07 | 1:09:13 | |
they crashed out of the Europa
League after a 3-1 aggregate defeat | 1:09:13 | 1:09:16 | |
against Zenit St Petersburg. Celtic
had led 1-0 from the first leg, but | 1:09:16 | 1:09:21 | |
conceded three goals in a
disappointing performance. Despite | 1:09:21 | 1:09:23 | |
67% of possession on the night, they
lacked a cutting edge. With Rodgers | 1:09:23 | 1:09:28 | |
saying his team needed to show more
bravery to play more positively | 1:09:28 | 1:09:31 | |
going forward. Arsenal survived a
scare in their last 32 type, now six | 1:09:31 | 1:09:35 | |
years in a row they have lost the
home leg of their European tie, | 1:09:35 | 1:09:46 | |
going 2-0 down at home against
Swedish opposition Ostersunds. | 1:09:46 | 1:09:53 | |
Thanks to their 3-0 first leg lead
and that goal from Cor Kolasinac, | 1:09:53 | 1:09:57 | |
they went through, 4-2, on
aggregate. -- Sead | 1:09:57 | 1:10:05 | |
Kolasinac. Bravo to the pole dancer
that was just on, says one viewer, | 1:10:05 | 1:10:10 | |
if I was in a care home I would much
rather see that then listened to an | 1:10:10 | 1:10:14 | |
inept musician or boring speaker who
would think that because we are old, | 1:10:14 | 1:10:19 | |
we must be prepared to put up with
mediocrity chosen for us. | 1:10:19 | 1:10:22 | |
Descriptions as well, Jeremy Hunt
has been in charge of the NHS for | 1:10:22 | 1:10:27 | |
almost eight years, all failings are
as a direct result of his inaction | 1:10:27 | 1:10:31 | |
or action, says one viewer. It fits
in with his agenda of privatisation | 1:10:31 | 1:10:38 | |
through the back door, suddenly the
idea will come an outside private | 1:10:38 | 1:10:41 | |
company to come in and address these
issues. Keep your messages come in. | 1:10:41 | 1:10:55 | |
Too many mistakes and
too many lives lost. | 1:10:57 | 1:10:59 | |
And it's got to stop. | 1:10:59 | 1:11:00 | |
That's what the Health
Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, | 1:11:00 | 1:11:01 | |
has told this programme. | 1:11:02 | 1:11:03 | |
He's concerned about the findings
of new research showing that GPs, | 1:11:03 | 1:11:05 | |
pharmacists, hospitals and care
homes in England may be making | 1:11:05 | 1:11:08 | |
millions of errors a year
and could be a factor in more | 1:11:08 | 1:11:10 | |
than 22,000 deaths. | 1:11:11 | 1:11:12 | |
Mr Hunt told me this level of harm
is appalling and he's going to act. | 1:11:12 | 1:11:15 | |
Louise Fenner-Jiggins
got in touch with us | 1:11:15 | 1:11:17 | |
because she says her,
Nan Shirley Wardell, was overdosed | 1:11:17 | 1:11:19 | |
by mistake when in hospital. | 1:11:19 | 1:11:20 | |
We are doing a lot of things but it
is important to reassure our | 1:11:20 | 1:11:24 | |
viewers, that this report is clear
that the NHS error rates are not | 1:11:24 | 1:11:31 | |
higher than elsewhere, than in the
US or other EU countries. One in | 1:11:31 | 1:11:35 | |
five when it comes to prescriptions
is high. Far too high, between four | 1:11:35 | 1:11:40 | |
and five people die every single day
because of these errors. So what are | 1:11:40 | 1:11:47 | |
we doing? We know that if we move to
electronic systems rather than | 1:11:47 | 1:11:50 | |
paper-based that we still have in
many hospitals, you can eliminate | 1:11:50 | 1:11:54 | |
around half of errors. How far are
you with that? Today we announce the | 1:11:54 | 1:11:59 | |
next £75 million to help hospitals
progress, at the moment it is around | 1:11:59 | 1:12:03 | |
a quarter of hospitals that have
those systems in place. But they | 1:12:03 | 1:12:08 | |
create the Czechs, for example, if
you try to give a drug to a pregnant | 1:12:08 | 1:12:13 | |
woman that could damage the foetus,
then you will get a contrary | 1:12:13 | 1:12:17 | |
indication when you get that. --
checks. That means 75% of hospitals | 1:12:17 | 1:12:21 | |
at the moment do not have electronic
processing in place? Yes, and that | 1:12:21 | 1:12:25 | |
is what we want to put right, we
want all hospitals to move to that, | 1:12:25 | 1:12:29 | |
but if you talk to doctors,
pharmacists, nurses on the front | 1:12:29 | 1:12:33 | |
line, they have another worry, and
that is that the culture is wrong, | 1:12:33 | 1:12:37 | |
that if they make a mistake where
they are prescribing medicine, | 1:12:37 | 1:12:41 | |
bringing down someone's dosage, and
they admit it, they could get fired. | 1:12:41 | 1:12:45 | |
Or they could suffer a criminal
prosecution, and so the other thing | 1:12:45 | 1:12:52 | |
we need to do is get the culture
right, to recognise that there is | 1:12:52 | 1:12:56 | |
going to be ordinarily human errors.
Those are just words, in a way, in a | 1:12:56 | 1:13:03 | |
sense, having this conversation
right now today, the focus being on | 1:13:03 | 1:13:05 | |
how many mistakes are being made by
GPs in care homes and hospitals, | 1:13:05 | 1:13:09 | |
could only serve to increase blame
culture? Not at all, what we are | 1:13:09 | 1:13:15 | |
doing today is not just words, we
are decriminalising, dispensing | 1:13:15 | 1:13:20 | |
errors by pharmacists, which is
something pharmacists have long | 1:13:20 | 1:13:24 | |
thought creates the wrong culture.
Pharmacists says, I made a mistake, | 1:13:24 | 1:13:30 | |
you say there will not be
prosecuted? As long as it is a | 1:13:30 | 1:13:37 | |
reasonable mistake, human errors,
yes, as long as it is not gross | 1:13:37 | 1:13:41 | |
negligence. We want to look at more
generally how we move in the NHS | 1:13:41 | 1:13:45 | |
from a blame culture to a learning
culture. | 1:13:45 | 1:13:51 | |
This just in, in my past life I was
a pharmacy tech in a well-known | 1:13:51 | 1:13:56 | |
London hospital, the pressure put on
technicians and pharmacists is | 1:13:56 | 1:14:00 | |
awful, waiting times, patients not
being patient, waiting for proper | 1:14:00 | 1:14:04 | |
checks, patients, | 1:14:04 | 1:14:05 | |
nurses and doctors need to be more
patient and then there would be | 1:14:05 | 1:14:10 | |
fewer errors. We can speak now with
Louise and her grandmother, she says | 1:14:10 | 1:14:15 | |
she was overdosed by mistake while
in hospital. | 1:14:15 | 1:14:27 | |
Tell us what happened? Last Tuesday
my grandmother was admitted to | 1:14:30 | 1:14:34 | |
Kingston Hospital with pneumonia,
while she was in the care of | 1:14:34 | 1:14:37 | |
Kingston Hospital, from Tuesday, she
received four doses, of double her | 1:14:37 | 1:14:42 | |
usual epilepsy tablet she has been
taking four years, the issue came to | 1:14:42 | 1:14:49 | |
attention when my grandfather
noticed that the nurse who was | 1:14:49 | 1:14:52 | |
dispensing medication had two
tablets instead of one, and so we | 1:14:52 | 1:14:57 | |
were very concerned at the fact this
had not even been picked up on by | 1:14:57 | 1:15:00 | |
the hospital until my grandfather
noticed himself. What was the | 1:15:00 | 1:15:04 | |
response from the hospital when you
told them? | 1:15:04 | 1:15:06 | |
First of all they said my grandad
was wrong, that they had the correct | 1:15:11 | 1:15:15 | |
dosage. She did then go to
investigate and the doctor came back | 1:15:15 | 1:15:18 | |
very quickly and said, I'm sorry but
there has been a terrible error, to | 1:15:18 | 1:15:22 | |
which then the prescription was
changed, but by which point my Nan | 1:15:22 | 1:15:26 | |
had received four times what she
should have done and had some really | 1:15:26 | 1:15:29 | |
nasty, severe side effects from it
which could have got a lot worse had | 1:15:29 | 1:15:32 | |
the time gone on even longer.
Surely, it sounds awful, what | 1:15:32 | 1:15:39 | |
happened. Can you tell us about last
Tuesday from your perspective? I | 1:15:39 | 1:15:42 | |
don't remember a lot about it,
actually, because I wasn't well | 1:15:42 | 1:15:46 | |
anyway, so I only know that they
overdosed me. My Nan cannot remember | 1:15:46 | 1:15:52 | |
a lot, that was part of the problem,
she was hallucinating, she did not | 1:15:52 | 1:15:56 | |
know where she was, she had a lot of
side-effects and that was part of | 1:15:56 | 1:15:59 | |
it, she cannot remember what
happened. How do you feel about what | 1:15:59 | 1:16:05 | |
we are hearing today, this report,
the data that has been released, | 1:16:05 | 1:16:09 | |
telling us there are potentially
millions of mistakes being made | 1:16:09 | 1:16:11 | |
every year? Personally I think it is
disgusting. At the end of the day, | 1:16:11 | 1:16:18 | |
these people have other people's
lives in their hands. I am a | 1:16:18 | 1:16:23 | |
secondary school teacher myself,
duty empathetically those working in | 1:16:23 | 1:16:26 | |
the NHS, I know what it is like to
work in a stressful environment and | 1:16:26 | 1:16:30 | |
under pressure and I understand
everybody has a hard job to do, but | 1:16:30 | 1:16:33 | |
at the same time these mistakes
should not be made. Somebody needs | 1:16:33 | 1:16:37 | |
to be held accountable for what they
are doing and luckily in our | 1:16:37 | 1:16:42 | |
instance the consequences were not
as dire as they could before | 1:16:42 | 1:16:45 | |
somebody else. But it is scary that
this is still happening in today's | 1:16:45 | 1:16:48 | |
H. Shirley, how do you feel about
what we are hearing today in the | 1:16:48 | 1:17:01 | |
news that lots of errors are being
made, one in five prescriptions | 1:17:01 | 1:17:04 | |
could be a mistake? When you are in
hospital and see some of them | 1:17:04 | 1:17:10 | |
walking and they don't know what
they are doing with the tablets and | 1:17:10 | 1:17:13 | |
that, you know... We asked the
Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, to | 1:17:13 | 1:17:20 | |
comment on your situation, we put
your question to him on your behalf. | 1:17:20 | 1:17:23 | |
Here is what he said. We need to
make sure we learn from those kinds | 1:17:23 | 1:17:28 | |
of mistakes because, as you said at
the start, they happened far too | 1:17:28 | 1:17:31 | |
often and at the moment very often
we are not because people are | 1:17:31 | 1:17:35 | |
worried if they are open about them
there will be consequences, so that | 1:17:35 | 1:17:38 | |
is the first thing we are doing. The
second thing is we are employing | 1:17:38 | 1:17:43 | |
2000 pharmacists to work in GP
surgeries because I don't know if it | 1:17:43 | 1:17:47 | |
was the case in that particular
story but very often these problems | 1:17:47 | 1:17:50 | |
happen with older people with
dementia who are on a cocktail of | 1:17:50 | 1:17:56 | |
drugs which sometimes don't work
well together and what you need to | 1:17:56 | 1:17:59 | |
do is get an experienced pharmacist
to look at the combinations of drugs | 1:17:59 | 1:18:03 | |
to say, actually, we need to take
two of those two drugs because they | 1:18:03 | 1:18:06 | |
could conflict with some of the
other drugs you are taking. In | 1:18:06 | 1:18:10 | |
Louise's case, what would you say?
You are right, this is a terrible | 1:18:10 | 1:18:15 | |
problem, much more widespread than
we thought. But the World Health | 1:18:15 | 1:18:20 | |
Organization said today that the NHS
is taking the lead in trying to | 1:18:20 | 1:18:24 | |
tackle these problems and we
certainly want to halve the number | 1:18:24 | 1:18:27 | |
of medication errors over the next
five years. Shirley, are you | 1:18:27 | 1:18:33 | |
convinced by Jeremy Hunt's response?
I don't know, really. I really don't | 1:18:33 | 1:18:38 | |
know. That they are tackling the
problem, the NHS is trying to change | 1:18:38 | 1:18:45 | |
the culture and they are dealing
with this. They say that, then | 1:18:45 | 1:18:51 | |
nothing happens, does it? I think
the issue is that people do need to | 1:18:51 | 1:18:56 | |
be held accountable for their
actions. It is not enough to say, we | 1:18:56 | 1:19:00 | |
are spending this money, that money,
it is down to what you do and how | 1:19:00 | 1:19:04 | |
you change it, and halving the
incidence is not good enough, they | 1:19:04 | 1:19:07 | |
should not happen at all. I accept
human errors happen, we are all | 1:19:07 | 1:19:13 | |
human, but when you are dealing with
something as important as this, | 1:19:13 | 1:19:16 | |
people must be held accountable for
what they are doing. There will be | 1:19:16 | 1:19:21 | |
people watching who work in care
homes, hospitals, they may be | 1:19:21 | 1:19:26 | |
pharmacists, doctors, they may feel
frustrated that, again, they are the | 1:19:26 | 1:19:29 | |
focus of blame when they are working
on the front line, working in an | 1:19:29 | 1:19:34 | |
environment which is under
resourced, understaffed, lacking | 1:19:34 | 1:19:38 | |
money, and yet again the finger of
blame is being pointed towards them? | 1:19:38 | 1:19:43 | |
As I say, I empathise with them, it
is very hard, but, as I say, I am | 1:19:43 | 1:19:49 | |
accountable as a teacher for the
outcomes and results of my students, | 1:19:49 | 1:19:52 | |
they have to be held accountable for
what their job is and ultimately | 1:19:52 | 1:19:56 | |
their job is dealing with medication
for these people and they must be | 1:19:56 | 1:19:59 | |
held accountable for what they are
doing. What do you think about the | 1:19:59 | 1:20:03 | |
point Jeremy Hunt made, the Health
Secretary, about blame culture, | 1:20:03 | 1:20:07 | |
getting away from that where people
are able to admit they made mistakes | 1:20:07 | 1:20:11 | |
which they can then go on to learn
from, instead of hiding them or | 1:20:11 | 1:20:19 | |
covering them up? I think it is much
better than hiding them, obviously, | 1:20:19 | 1:20:22 | |
but we have to make sure that
ultimately they can learn from it | 1:20:22 | 1:20:24 | |
and that the mistakes don't continue
to happen. We should not be hiding | 1:20:24 | 1:20:29 | |
it but, as I keep saying it and I
will always say, there has to be | 1:20:29 | 1:20:33 | |
accountability, so whilst they
should not necessarily lose their | 1:20:33 | 1:20:36 | |
jobs, we are all human, mistakes do
happen, they have to be picked up on | 1:20:36 | 1:20:40 | |
and they have to learn from it,
there has to be some sort of outcome | 1:20:40 | 1:20:43 | |
to it, that is what we are seeking
for my Nan, we know what has | 1:20:43 | 1:20:47 | |
happened based on her experience,
something is happening and it is not | 1:20:47 | 1:20:50 | |
allowed to be brushed under the
carpet and forgotten about. Louise, | 1:20:50 | 1:20:55 | |
Shirley, thank you for coming onto
the programme to talk about what | 1:20:55 | 1:20:58 | |
happened with you.
A couple of you have sent in | 1:20:58 | 1:21:01 | |
messages.
I got my first Ypres description a | 1:21:01 | 1:21:05 | |
few weeks ago, the consultant
prescribed mild steroid and an error | 1:21:05 | 1:21:09 | |
in transcription meant the drug I
received was different, not the drug | 1:21:09 | 1:21:12 | |
I was supposed to be given, not a
good idea for someone waiting for a | 1:21:12 | 1:21:17 | |
new hip having mobility issues.
Alan has e-mailed, my wife and I get | 1:21:17 | 1:21:22 | |
several repeat prescriptions every
month and each month the boxes | 1:21:22 | 1:21:25 | |
change and are different colours and
shapes, the tablets themselves can | 1:21:25 | 1:21:36 | |
be different colours, sizes and
shapes, it can be very confusing. I | 1:21:36 | 1:21:39 | |
assume the pharmacy just supplies
whatever they can get cheapest. | 1:21:39 | 1:21:41 | |
Being attacked with acid
is a difficult thing | 1:21:41 | 1:21:42 | |
to imagine for most of us,
but a growing number | 1:21:42 | 1:21:45 | |
of people are being affected. | 1:21:45 | 1:21:46 | |
New figures obtained by 5Live
Investigates show there were 646 | 1:21:46 | 1:21:48 | |
acid attacks in England and Wales
last year, over three times | 1:21:48 | 1:21:51 | |
higher than in 2013. | 1:21:51 | 1:21:52 | |
The BBC sent Freedom of Information
requests to 46 police | 1:21:52 | 1:21:55 | |
forces across the country,
asking for the number of acid | 1:21:55 | 1:21:57 | |
attacks in recent years. | 1:21:57 | 1:21:59 | |
25 forces responded
to that request in full. | 1:21:59 | 1:22:02 | |
Along with 5Live Investigates,
we brought together two acid attack | 1:22:02 | 1:22:06 | |
survivors with very different
stories to talk about the impact | 1:22:06 | 1:22:09 | |
the attacks have had,
and are still having, | 1:22:09 | 1:22:11 | |
on their lives. | 1:22:11 | 1:22:16 | |
My name is Adele, and in 2014 my ex
paid someone to chuck acid over me. | 1:22:16 | 1:22:31 | |
My name is Gibaud Hussein and I was
a victim of an acid attack last | 1:22:31 | 1:22:37 | |
year. Someone threw acid on my face
on the street while I was riding my | 1:22:37 | 1:22:42 | |
method.
I was attacked three and a half | 1:22:42 | 1:22:50 | |
years ago, almost four, August 2000
and 14. My ex-partner paid someone | 1:22:50 | 1:22:54 | |
to chuck acid over me. I was on my
way to work, 8:30am when this guy | 1:22:54 | 1:23:02 | |
came towards me, shaking a bottle. I
remember feeling wary as he walked | 1:23:02 | 1:23:06 | |
past me because he looked me in the
eye and gave me a look, that is when | 1:23:06 | 1:23:09 | |
he chucked the acid. Half the head
of hair, my right ear, all my right | 1:23:09 | 1:23:18 | |
side. My first thing was, oh, my
God, he has chucked water over me. | 1:23:18 | 1:23:23 | |
Seconds later it was burning and it
felt like I was melting. I was | 1:23:23 | 1:23:31 | |
working for number at the time, food
delivery -- working flat Uber. I had | 1:23:31 | 1:23:38 | |
just finished my work and was going
home will stop I heard the sound of | 1:23:38 | 1:23:42 | |
water on my helmet on the left-hand
side. I looked to the left and | 1:23:42 | 1:23:47 | |
soared two boys with the mask on and
I jumped on my bike, left my bike on | 1:23:47 | 1:23:51 | |
the street. It was burning on my
face. One of the ladies who was | 1:23:51 | 1:23:57 | |
passing by, she just asked me what
happened. When she saw me, I was | 1:23:57 | 1:24:03 | |
just lying down on the pavement and
I started crying like a baby, I have | 1:24:03 | 1:24:07 | |
never cried like that. They started
putting water on me. Where is it | 1:24:07 | 1:24:16 | |
hurting, in your eyes? We need to
try and get water in your eyes. Eyes | 1:24:16 | 1:24:23 | |
open, OK? Yeah, I kept crying for
water as well, just the initial | 1:24:23 | 1:24:32 | |
thing, I would feel it burning,
someone came running out of their | 1:24:32 | 1:24:36 | |
house with a bucket of water, then I
just remember smoking, for me that | 1:24:36 | 1:24:40 | |
kind of started a reaction again and
it was all over me, I looked down, | 1:24:40 | 1:24:44 | |
didn't have a bra, it was all
burned, everywhere, I can still | 1:24:44 | 1:24:49 | |
smell that smell now, it is a smell
that I cannot describe. If I did not | 1:24:49 | 1:24:54 | |
have the water over me, I would have
been blind. That water was a | 1:24:54 | 1:24:58 | |
blessing. It was burning on my
chest, there was pain all over my | 1:24:58 | 1:25:07 | |
body, so I had to sleep. I was in
hospital for six weeks, I had skin | 1:25:07 | 1:25:19 | |
grafts, they took it from my side.
My right hand, my right arm, the | 1:25:19 | 1:25:23 | |
right side of my head, this hair is
fake. I lost my ear and my neck, and | 1:25:23 | 1:25:29 | |
then my chest. | 1:25:29 | 1:25:33 | |
We can speak now to Simon Harding,
a criminologist who's currently | 1:25:33 | 1:25:36 | |
researching acid attacks
at Middlesex University. | 1:25:36 | 1:25:37 | |
Janette Collins, who runs The Crib,
a youth project in Hackney. | 1:25:37 | 1:25:42 | |
And Ayesha Nayyar, a lawyer
who represents acid attack victims. | 1:25:42 | 1:25:46 | |
Thank you for joining us on the
programme. Simon, what do you think | 1:25:46 | 1:25:51 | |
is behind the rise? It is
interesting, acid attacks that we | 1:25:51 | 1:25:56 | |
experience in the UK is really quite
different from other areas around | 1:25:56 | 1:26:00 | |
the world. If you look at India,
Pakistan, Jamaica, Colombia, | 1:26:00 | 1:26:07 | |
Indonesia, you tend to find acid
attacks are men throwing acid over | 1:26:07 | 1:26:13 | |
women, usually because the women
have exercised their decision-making | 1:26:13 | 1:26:16 | |
power. They are to do with honour?
To do with honour and domestic | 1:26:16 | 1:26:23 | |
violence. Here, less so. We have
seen a shift in how acid attacks are | 1:26:23 | 1:26:28 | |
presenting in this country. They
have traditionally been used as a | 1:26:28 | 1:26:34 | |
kind of last resort, perhaps a
revenge attack, that type of thing, | 1:26:34 | 1:26:37 | |
but we now find it is much more
casual, and certainly people will be | 1:26:37 | 1:26:43 | |
aware of the incidents in London
over the past year that grabbed the | 1:26:43 | 1:26:47 | |
headlines over the summer, young
boys sometimes gang affiliated | 1:26:47 | 1:26:51 | |
casually using and throwing acid,
sometimes to incapacitate people so | 1:26:51 | 1:26:58 | |
they can then go on to rob them of
their wallet, the phone, even their | 1:26:58 | 1:27:04 | |
mopeds. So it is a change in the
type of victim and also a change in | 1:27:04 | 1:27:10 | |
the age of the offender, so much
younger than ever before. Janet, is | 1:27:10 | 1:27:16 | |
this about also, as well as using
acid in attacks, is is also about | 1:27:16 | 1:27:21 | |
people carrying acid in the way they
might have carried a knife before? I | 1:27:21 | 1:27:27 | |
understand what my friend is saying
here, but I have not seen that | 1:27:27 | 1:27:32 | |
rising acid attacks when it comes to
the young people we have been | 1:27:32 | 1:27:36 | |
working with, and we work with some
hard to reach young people as well. | 1:27:36 | 1:27:40 | |
When we are doing our knife -based
workshop, we introduce acid attacks | 1:27:40 | 1:27:46 | |
in there but a lot of the young
people I have spoken do have not | 1:27:46 | 1:27:49 | |
really seen it as a big issue is how
we, the adults, are seeing it. I | 1:27:49 | 1:27:56 | |
think sometimes, I do understand
they were doing it on the mopeds, | 1:27:56 | 1:28:00 | |
but sometimes when we start pushing
things over to young people it can | 1:28:00 | 1:28:03 | |
create a problem with young people.
If I think you are carrying acid and | 1:28:03 | 1:28:08 | |
I am going to go into a certain
area, I am going to have to carry | 1:28:08 | 1:28:12 | |
acid myself. Sometimes I think we
fuel the fire. Who is fuelling the | 1:28:12 | 1:28:17 | |
fire, because some people have made
this argument that the more the | 1:28:17 | 1:28:19 | |
media talks about it, we see it in
the papers and on TV, it in a way | 1:28:19 | 1:28:24 | |
encourages it, but also if we are
hearing that the number of attacks | 1:28:24 | 1:28:27 | |
have tripled, what do you put that
down to? Has it tripled in the sense | 1:28:27 | 1:28:32 | |
of young people using acid as a new
form of violence towards another | 1:28:32 | 1:28:38 | |
young person? Your area of
expertise? It can lead to what we | 1:28:38 | 1:28:44 | |
call a bird expert -- escalation.
Approximately half of the incident | 1:28:44 | 1:28:49 | |
in London occurred in the east of
London so there is some significant | 1:28:49 | 1:28:52 | |
event taking place there and it is
possible that young people who have | 1:28:52 | 1:28:58 | |
adopted this or learned it through
social media, it is effectively | 1:28:58 | 1:29:04 | |
leading to escalation within that
neighbourhood, so one gang start | 1:29:04 | 1:29:07 | |
using it, another rival gang
starts... I totally agree with that, | 1:29:07 | 1:29:12 | |
I understand that. Let's bring in
Ayesha. What kind of sentence can | 1:29:12 | 1:29:16 | |
you expect for carrying out an acid
attack or even carrying acid? It | 1:29:16 | 1:29:20 | |
depends what you are doing with the
acid. If you are carrying acid you | 1:29:20 | 1:29:24 | |
can be charged with the offence of
possession of a weapon which carries | 1:29:24 | 1:29:28 | |
a maximum four-year prison sentence.
The same as carrying a knife? It is, | 1:29:28 | 1:29:33 | |
yes. If you throw acid, if you miss
your victim you can be charged with | 1:29:33 | 1:29:38 | |
throwing a corrosive liquid with
intent to maim, disfigure or cause | 1:29:38 | 1:29:44 | |
grievous bodily harm. That does
carry a maximum life sentence in | 1:29:44 | 1:29:48 | |
prison. If you throw acid and you
hit your victim, you can be charged, | 1:29:48 | 1:29:52 | |
likely to be charged with grievous
bodily harm which, again, carries a | 1:29:52 | 1:29:56 | |
maximum life sentence in prison. If
you compare that with knife crime, | 1:29:56 | 1:30:00 | |
if you use a knife you are likely to
be charged with attempted murder. If | 1:30:00 | 1:30:04 | |
you use acid and throw it, you are
likely to be charged, cases we have | 1:30:04 | 1:30:13 | |
had in the past, you are likely to
be charged with grievous bodily | 1:30:13 | 1:30:16 | |
harm. So are you saying the law
needs to be tougher? I think the | 1:30:16 | 1:30:19 | |
framework is there, even if you are
charged with grievous bodily harm | 1:30:19 | 1:30:21 | |
the framework is there to receive a
maximum life sentence in prison but | 1:30:21 | 1:30:26 | |
that has not happened to date. The
Arthur Collins case in 2017 was the | 1:30:26 | 1:30:31 | |
largest acid attack in the country,
he was charged with five counts of | 1:30:31 | 1:30:35 | |
grievous bodily harm, nine counts of
assault, 14 counts, he got a 20 year | 1:30:35 | 1:30:40 | |
prison sentence. He did not get life
in prison. I know the case that is | 1:30:40 | 1:30:45 | |
going to trial, sorry, being
sentenced next week where -- next | 1:30:45 | 1:30:48 | |
month whether young mopeds driver
threw acid on six victims, the | 1:30:48 | 1:30:54 | |
victims are pushing for life
sentencing to be passed. Sentencing | 1:30:54 | 1:30:57 | |
is one thing but also the charge,
grievous bodily harm as opposed to | 1:30:57 | 1:31:01 | |
attempted murder in the case of a
knife attack, toughening up the law, | 1:31:01 | 1:31:06 | |
do you think that would act as a
deterrent and see the numbers come | 1:31:06 | 1:31:10 | |
down? Definitely, remember at the
moment there is no crime of | 1:31:10 | 1:31:13 | |
possession for acid, if you are
caught in a knife you are charged | 1:31:13 | 1:31:16 | |
with the crime of possession. If the
police stop you with acid, they have | 1:31:16 | 1:31:20 | |
to prove you intended to use it and
criminals are aware of that, as a | 1:31:20 | 1:31:25 | |
statistic, they know if they stopped
carrying acid, the police have to | 1:31:25 | 1:31:29 | |
prove they intend to use it which
threshold, as opposed to knife | 1:31:29 | 1:31:38 | |
crime. So something needs to be done
about introducing a crime of | 1:31:38 | 1:31:40 | |
possession for acid, that would go
some way to stopping the carrying of | 1:31:40 | 1:31:43 | |
acid in the country at the moment.
And we know the Government is | 1:31:43 | 1:31:46 | |
reviewing legislation around
carrying corrosive substances. Thank | 1:31:46 | 1:31:48 | |
you all for joining us this morning. | 1:31:48 | 1:31:50 | |
In a statement,
the Home Office said... | 1:31:50 | 1:31:52 | |
"The perpetrators of these sickening
attacks can already face up to life | 1:31:52 | 1:31:55 | |
imprisonment on conviction. | 1:31:55 | 1:31:56 | |
An action plan was set up
by the Home Secretary last year | 1:31:56 | 1:31:59 | |
to tackle the use of corrosive
substances in violent attacks | 1:31:59 | 1:32:01 | |
and we are making good progress
on implementing this." | 1:32:01 | 1:32:04 | |
substances in violent attacks and we
are making good progress on | 1:32:04 | 1:32:06 | |
implement in this. Still to come on
the programme: after Lily Allen | 1:32:06 | 1:32:12 | |
draws attention to the three day
London music festival with a | 1:32:12 | 1:32:15 | |
distinctively Male line-up, a new
initiative pledges to have a 50/50 | 1:32:15 | 1:32:22 | |
gender balance across all live music
events. And the power of celebrity, | 1:32:22 | 1:32:28 | |
Kylie Jenner says that she is no
longer using Snapchat and Snapchat | 1:32:28 | 1:32:32 | |
promptly loses £1 billion from its
stock market value! | 1:32:32 | 1:32:38 | |
Time for the latest news,
here's Joanna Gosling. | 1:32:46 | 1:32:47 | |
A study has found that mistakes made
in the medication given to patients | 1:32:47 | 1:32:50 | |
in England could be the cause
of seventeen-hundred deaths a year, | 1:32:50 | 1:32:53 | |
and could contribute
to thousands more. | 1:32:53 | 1:32:54 | |
-- 1700. | 1:32:54 | 1:32:58 | |
The report commissioned
by the government said the number | 1:32:58 | 1:33:00 | |
of drug errors totals
237 million cases a year. | 1:33:00 | 1:33:02 | |
The Health and Social Care
Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, | 1:33:02 | 1:33:04 | |
said the government is investing
in computer systems that | 1:33:04 | 1:33:06 | |
would help prevent mistakes. | 1:33:06 | 1:33:07 | |
A fourth British tourist has died
of injuries he suffered | 1:33:07 | 1:33:10 | |
in a helicopter crash
in the Grand Canyon | 1:33:10 | 1:33:12 | |
nearly a fortnight ago. | 1:33:12 | 1:33:13 | |
Jonathan Udall, who was in his
30s and from Brighton, | 1:33:13 | 1:33:15 | |
was on honeymoon with his wife,
Ellie Milward. | 1:33:15 | 1:33:17 | |
She and another British woman,
as well as the helicopter's pilot, | 1:33:17 | 1:33:20 | |
remain in a critical
condition in hospital. | 1:33:20 | 1:33:25 | |
An armed officer who was
at the Florida school, | 1:33:25 | 1:33:27 | |
where 17 people were killed,
has resigned after it emerged | 1:33:27 | 1:33:30 | |
he failed to intervene. | 1:33:30 | 1:33:31 | |
Scot Peterson was facing suspension
after an investigation | 1:33:31 | 1:33:33 | |
revealed he remained outside
the building and did not | 1:33:33 | 1:33:35 | |
confront the gunman. | 1:33:35 | 1:33:36 | |
It's not yet known whether criminal
charges will be brought | 1:33:36 | 1:33:43 | |
Detectives investigating two murders
in Camden earlier this week have | 1:33:44 | 1:33:48 | |
arrested an 18-year-old man. | 1:33:48 | 1:33:52 | |
He was arrested in Camden
on suspicion of two counts | 1:33:52 | 1:33:54 | |
of murder and one count
of grievous bodily harm. | 1:33:54 | 1:33:56 | |
The police say both murders
are being treated as linked, | 1:33:56 | 1:33:59 | |
and are appealing for information. | 1:33:59 | 1:34:02 | |
Sipping acidic drinks such as fruit
teas and flavoured water can wear | 1:34:02 | 1:34:06 | |
away teeth and damage the enamel. | 1:34:06 | 1:34:07 | |
A team at King's College London
found that drinking them | 1:34:07 | 1:34:09 | |
between meals and savouring them
for too long increased the risk | 1:34:09 | 1:34:11 | |
of tooth erosion from acid. | 1:34:12 | 1:34:13 | |
The research found the problem was
increasing as people snacked more. | 1:34:13 | 1:34:21 | |
Before we go to the sport, I want to
read you out a comment that has come | 1:34:27 | 1:34:32 | |
in from Stephen, 78, he has e-mailed
to ask, how can I book a place at | 1:34:32 | 1:34:37 | |
the care home(!) that is in response
to the story this morning about some | 1:34:37 | 1:34:43 | |
people criticising a care home which
showed pole dancing to its | 1:34:43 | 1:34:48 | |
residents. Slightly linked to sport,
apparently, pole dancing is on its | 1:34:48 | 1:34:51 | |
way to becoming a recognised sport,
potentially even an Olympic sport. | 1:34:51 | 1:34:57 | |
Potentially, I think it will be
quite a while before we see it at an | 1:34:57 | 1:35:01 | |
Olympic Games. Serious stuff out on
the ice to come. Team GB's women | 1:35:01 | 1:35:07 | |
face Sweden in the Semi final of the
Curling at the Winter Olympics in | 1:35:07 | 1:35:09 | |
around half an hour from now.
Britain will be confident, but face | 1:35:09 | 1:35:18 | |
a team that has beaten them once
already in Pyeongchang. The winner | 1:35:18 | 1:35:20 | |
will take home at least a silver
medal which would make it Britain's | 1:35:20 | 1:35:23 | |
most successful Winter Olympics.
Another Olympic Athlete from Russia | 1:35:23 | 1:35:27 | |
has tested positive for a banned
substance. Bobsleigh pilot Nadezhda | 1:35:27 | 1:35:31 | |
Sergeeva is one of 168 Russians
allowed to compete as neutrals, | 1:35:31 | 1:35:33 | |
despite the country being banned for
a state sponsored doping programme. | 1:35:33 | 1:35:43 | |
But there was a first gold of the
games for an Olympic Athlete from | 1:35:45 | 1:35:47 | |
Russia. It came in the Women's
singles figure skating as | 1:35:47 | 1:35:49 | |
15-year-old Alina Zagitova. She beat
her team-mate and favourite Yevgenia | 1:35:49 | 1:35:52 | |
Medvedeva. Arsenal are in the Europa
League last 32 draw later today, | 1:35:52 | 1:35:54 | |
despite losing at home to Ostersunds
of Sweden - a 2-1 defeat but a 4-2 | 1:35:54 | 1:35:57 | |
aggregate win. | 1:35:57 | 1:36:05 | |
Wales already does it, | 1:36:10 | 1:36:11 | |
now organ donation could soon become
an opt-out system in England. | 1:36:11 | 1:36:14 | |
Today MPs are debating a bill
which wants the law to be changed | 1:36:14 | 1:36:17 | |
so medics would be able to assume
consent had been given | 1:36:17 | 1:36:20 | |
by a potential adult organ donor,
unless they've said otherwise. | 1:36:20 | 1:36:22 | |
The Former England footballer
Andy Cole is supporting the bill | 1:36:22 | 1:36:24 | |
after having a kidney transplant
in 2013 at the age of 43. | 1:36:24 | 1:36:27 | |
The kidney was donated by Andy's
nephew, Alexander Palmer. | 1:36:27 | 1:36:29 | |
I spoke to the pair earlier
in the programme about how | 1:36:29 | 1:36:32 | |
the transplant process
changed their lives. | 1:36:32 | 1:36:38 | |
I appreciate everything he has done
for me and what he has gone through, | 1:36:52 | 1:36:55 | |
the pain he has gone through,
to see me recover than Alex did | 1:36:55 | 1:36:58 | |
at the time because I remember
when I left hospital I left him | 1:36:58 | 1:37:02 | |
in the hospital. | 1:37:02 | 1:37:03 | |
I remember saying, if I could change
it, I would do, because I did not | 1:37:03 | 1:37:06 | |
want to see him in that pain,
first and foremost. | 1:37:06 | 1:37:09 | |
Fortunately he came
round and that is why we are sitting | 1:37:09 | 1:37:11 | |
in front of you now. | 1:37:11 | 1:37:12 | |
Alex, can you tell me
about the journey, Andy's journey | 1:37:12 | 1:37:15 | |
from the moment he was diagnosed
to the point where you decided | 1:37:15 | 1:37:18 | |
to donate your own kidney? | 1:37:18 | 1:37:19 | |
For me it was a straight away thing,
as soon as they told be | 1:37:19 | 1:37:22 | |
about the situation I said,
help, I am more than happy to help | 1:37:22 | 1:37:25 | |
stop a no-brainer for me. | 1:37:25 | 1:37:35 | |
And what was the process like,
how do you go about donating your | 1:37:36 | 1:37:40 | |
kidney, would you have decided
you wanted to help, | 1:37:40 | 1:37:42 | |
what happens next? | 1:37:42 | 1:37:43 | |
A lot of blood tests,
I had the test and once the test | 1:37:43 | 1:37:46 | |
came in and it is positive,
then it is the next stage, | 1:37:46 | 1:37:50 | |
not a simple process
but a process that is worthwhile. | 1:37:50 | 1:37:51 | |
Joining us now is 30-year-old
Jess Harris, who is waiting for both | 1:37:55 | 1:37:58 | |
a kidney and pancreas transplant. | 1:37:58 | 1:37:59 | |
Intensive care consultant
Dale Gardiner, who is also | 1:37:59 | 1:38:01 | |
the deputy clinical lead for organ
donation for the NHS | 1:38:01 | 1:38:03 | |
Blood and Transplant. | 1:38:03 | 1:38:04 | |
And Crispin Blunt, one of the MPs
who is debating the bill today. | 1:38:04 | 1:38:07 | |
How long have you been waiting? I
have been active on the list since | 1:38:07 | 1:38:12 | |
September 15, 2017, five months on
the list. Wide EU need a kidney and | 1:38:12 | 1:38:17 | |
pancreas transplant? Type one
diabetic, since I was 12, 13 years | 1:38:17 | 1:38:22 | |
old. The impact of diabetes is...
There is a link between diabetes | 1:38:22 | 1:38:29 | |
type one and kidney disease, disease
kidney failure, if it develops. That | 1:38:29 | 1:38:34 | |
is the point I am at. You are having
dialysis every day. I do PD dialysis | 1:38:34 | 1:38:41 | |
every night and every morning, from
my flat. What is it like for you, | 1:38:41 | 1:38:47 | |
day-to-day? The dialysis was a
really big adjustment, I feel a lot | 1:38:47 | 1:38:52 | |
better than I did before I started
dialysis, but it is the last thing I | 1:38:52 | 1:38:56 | |
do before bed, first thing I do in
the morning before I wake up, | 1:38:56 | 1:39:03 | |
really. How does it affect your
quality of life? In terms of what | 1:39:03 | 1:39:07 | |
I'm able to do in between dialysis,
I feel generally better. I'm | 1:39:07 | 1:39:13 | |
grateful I have it. The kidney is
the only organ where you have | 1:39:13 | 1:39:18 | |
replacement therapy while you are
waiting for a kidney. But I don't | 1:39:18 | 1:39:23 | |
want to have to do it. All my
friends are travelling, if I have | 1:39:23 | 1:39:28 | |
been out with friends, I have to go
back and do it, if I do it before I | 1:39:28 | 1:39:31 | |
go out with friends, I am
uncomfortable the whole night. I | 1:39:31 | 1:39:36 | |
have not found a time when is the
optimal time. Opting out, it is | 1:39:36 | 1:39:43 | |
being debated today, let's bring in
Crispin Blunt, dozens of MPs are | 1:39:43 | 1:39:49 | |
gathering, to debate the bill, why
are you taking part? I'm one of the | 1:39:49 | 1:39:54 | |
supporters of the bill, 20 minutes
ago concluded his speech introducing | 1:39:54 | 1:40:02 | |
his speech to the house, he took a
lot of interventions, it is pretty | 1:40:02 | 1:40:06 | |
clear there is very strong support
for him, to get this bill onto the | 1:40:06 | 1:40:10 | |
statute book. Both from the
government front bench as well as | 1:40:10 | 1:40:14 | |
his own. Given that unanimity across
the house, I hope that we can get to | 1:40:14 | 1:40:19 | |
a place where we can start to
address the 500 people every year | 1:40:19 | 1:40:26 | |
unable to get a life-saving
transplant. How much of an impact | 1:40:26 | 1:40:29 | |
will the opt out system have, for
bringing down the number of people | 1:40:29 | 1:40:34 | |
who are waiting for an organ
donation like Jess, waiting for a | 1:40:34 | 1:40:38 | |
kidney and a pancreas? Exactly
right, wonderful opportunity here to | 1:40:38 | 1:40:44 | |
launch a conversation in the
country, as in intensive care | 1:40:44 | 1:40:47 | |
doctor, I have these really
difficult conversations with people. | 1:40:47 | 1:40:51 | |
People who are dying, with their
families, at the end of their life, | 1:40:51 | 1:40:55 | |
and what I know for a fact is the
family do not know what your wishes | 1:40:55 | 1:41:00 | |
are, they are just left in such
shock, and confusion. I am so | 1:41:00 | 1:41:06 | |
excited by these conversations, the
possibility of launching a | 1:41:06 | 1:41:10 | |
discussion through the country, so
that you can tell your family what | 1:41:10 | 1:41:13 | |
your wishes would be. When you have
the difficult conversations with | 1:41:13 | 1:41:18 | |
people who have just lost a loved
one, it is that is when you need the | 1:41:18 | 1:41:22 | |
conversation to take place, in the
cases where people have said, no, | 1:41:22 | 1:41:26 | |
what do they say to you, how often
do they say that to you? If you are | 1:41:26 | 1:41:32 | |
on the organ donor register, 38% of
the population, nine times out of | 1:41:32 | 1:41:36 | |
ten the families will support your
wish. If you are not on the | 1:41:36 | 1:41:40 | |
register, it is a 50/50 chance,
families are left uncertain because | 1:41:40 | 1:41:45 | |
they do not know what the wishes
would be. Through this discussion | 1:41:45 | 1:41:48 | |
and conversation and legislation,
there will be a chance that you will | 1:41:48 | 1:41:53 | |
be a donor unless you tell us you do
not want to be, and that will bring | 1:41:53 | 1:41:57 | |
a lot of comfort to families, that
they know their loved one would have | 1:41:57 | 1:42:00 | |
opted out if they wanted to. Crispin
Blunt, this opt out system, 24 | 1:42:00 | 1:42:06 | |
years, why has it taken the
government so long to be debating | 1:42:06 | 1:42:09 | |
this when other places have had it
longer? I don't know why we have not | 1:42:09 | 1:42:14 | |
got round to this before, there was
some discussion with Jeffrey Benson | 1:42:14 | 1:42:18 | |
about the Chief Rabbi giving some
opposition to Gordon Brown when he | 1:42:18 | 1:42:21 | |
was Prime Minister, when he was
looking at bringing this measure in. | 1:42:21 | 1:42:25 | |
But there are, as I understand it,
only two religions, aroma and | 1:42:25 | 1:42:29 | |
Shintoism, who have fundamental
objection to this. There are | 1:42:29 | 1:42:35 | |
elements of Judaism who have
problems with it but all of this can | 1:42:35 | 1:42:38 | |
be addressed through an opt out
system. -- the Roma. This bill will | 1:42:38 | 1:42:42 | |
do a couple of important things, it
will put on the statute book that | 1:42:42 | 1:42:46 | |
you need to opt out in order to do
it but it will mean there is a | 1:42:46 | 1:42:49 | |
societal assumption that the right
thing to do is to make your organs | 1:42:49 | 1:42:53 | |
available to others, after your
death, and that then changes the | 1:42:53 | 1:42:58 | |
conversation with families as well.
It does... I think that will make a | 1:42:58 | 1:43:03 | |
big difference. It changes the
conversation but then there is added | 1:43:03 | 1:43:07 | |
pressure on families who have just
lost a loved one, to perhaps agree | 1:43:07 | 1:43:11 | |
to something they may not want. They
will then be clear, if their | 1:43:11 | 1:43:16 | |
relative has opted out, then they
will no that there has been the | 1:43:16 | 1:43:23 | |
opportunity for their relative to
consider this when they were able to | 1:43:23 | 1:43:26 | |
do so and to opt out. That changes
the dynamic, a family suddenly faced | 1:43:26 | 1:43:32 | |
with this really difficult decision,
in that often, in circumstances of | 1:43:32 | 1:43:38 | |
sudden death, in a road traffic
accident, that kind of thing, when | 1:43:38 | 1:43:42 | |
those organs will be really useful
to a number of people, and it is an | 1:43:42 | 1:43:48 | |
agonising conversation for people to
have, if the whole national | 1:43:48 | 1:43:50 | |
conversation around it changes about
what the expectations are, and there | 1:43:50 | 1:43:55 | |
has been the opportunity for people
to opt out, that will make life | 1:43:55 | 1:44:01 | |
considerably easier for the doctor
we have just heard from, to have | 1:44:01 | 1:44:04 | |
those conversations and save lives.
Lots of people may be signed up, | 1:44:04 | 1:44:10 | |
decide whether they are willing to
donate their organs but in reality, | 1:44:10 | 1:44:13 | |
do you know what is the percentage,
how many organs can actually be | 1:44:13 | 1:44:17 | |
used? One thing that is really
clear, only 1% of us will die in a | 1:44:17 | 1:44:23 | |
way where there is a possibility for
us to donate organs, that means you | 1:44:23 | 1:44:27 | |
have two die in an intensive care
unit, that is why you come across | 1:44:27 | 1:44:30 | |
doctors like myself, who after
trying to save your life will have | 1:44:30 | 1:44:34 | |
the terrible conversation with the
family. But if the family say yes, | 1:44:34 | 1:44:39 | |
and for me, this is the most
humbling moment of my intensive care | 1:44:39 | 1:44:43 | |
career, when you are with a grief
stricken family, and they look | 1:44:43 | 1:44:46 | |
beyond themselves to other people,
and they say that simple word, yes, | 1:44:46 | 1:44:50 | |
to help others, that is immensely
humbling. And when they do say yes, | 1:44:50 | 1:44:56 | |
and the donation does go ahead, they
can save and transform the lives of | 1:44:56 | 1:45:00 | |
up to eight or nine people, I have
heard stories like that over the | 1:45:00 | 1:45:04 | |
last few months, people helping to
save that many people, who saves | 1:45:04 | 1:45:08 | |
that many people in their whole
life? Thank you. | 1:45:08 | 1:45:12 | |
Jess, how much difference would it
make to your life is someone donated | 1:45:16 | 1:45:20 | |
and you got the match? It would
transform my life because I have | 1:45:20 | 1:45:24 | |
been on the list for five months but
even before I was activated on the | 1:45:24 | 1:45:28 | |
list, my life has been in limbo,
have not been able to work, to | 1:45:28 | 1:45:31 | |
travel, I get tired doing really
basic things, food shopping, | 1:45:31 | 1:45:37 | |
hospital appointments for me is
basically might activity for the | 1:45:37 | 1:45:43 | |
day, but it is important everyone
has that conversation or start | 1:45:43 | 1:45:46 | |
having that conversation so that
your wishes are known, so there is | 1:45:46 | 1:45:51 | |
no shock discovery at the end if
something were to happen. It is life | 1:45:51 | 1:45:55 | |
transforming and this vote... I have
got a few friends in similar | 1:45:55 | 1:46:00 | |
situations to myself, 6500 people
waiting for transplants, and it | 1:46:00 | 1:46:04 | |
would be an exciting day for people
like me if this vote goes through. | 1:46:04 | 1:46:09 | |
You are backing it? 100%, yes. Thank
you for coming in and talking about | 1:46:09 | 1:46:17 | |
what happened to you. | 1:46:17 | 1:46:18 | |
Last month, Lily Allen
made a simple statement | 1:46:18 | 1:46:20 | |
with a tweet when the line-up
for London's Wireless | 1:46:20 | 1:46:22 | |
festival was announced. | 1:46:22 | 1:46:23 | |
It showed only three female
artists were set to perform | 1:46:23 | 1:46:26 | |
over the three days. | 1:46:26 | 1:46:27 | |
But a new initiative to be announced
next week is hoping to get gender | 1:46:27 | 1:46:31 | |
balance in the music industry. | 1:46:31 | 1:46:33 | |
30 music events have made
a pledge towards achieving | 1:46:33 | 1:46:37 | |
a 50/50 gender balance
across their festivals by 2022. | 1:46:37 | 1:46:42 | |
That includes live music line-ups,
conferences and commissions. | 1:46:42 | 1:46:44 | |
Before we get to the guests,
we thought we'd take a look at how | 1:46:44 | 1:46:49 | |
some of this summer's big festivals
are doing when it comes | 1:46:49 | 1:46:51 | |
to having female artists... | 1:46:51 | 1:46:56 | |
We looked at some of the big summer
festivals and removed all the male | 1:46:56 | 1:47:05 | |
artists and bands to see how many
female artists are on the line-up. | 1:47:05 | 1:47:08 | |
First up, Reading
and Leeds festival. | 1:47:08 | 1:47:13 | |
Headlined by Fall Out Boy, Kendrick
Lamar and Kings Of Leon. | 1:47:13 | 1:47:16 | |
We also did the same
with the Isle of Wight festival. | 1:47:16 | 1:47:19 | |
Again, taking out
all the male artists. | 1:47:19 | 1:47:21 | |
And we did the same
with Boardmasters, | 1:47:21 | 1:47:22 | |
which takes place in Cornwall. | 1:47:22 | 1:47:25 | |
In a statement, the organisers
of Boardmasters told us this | 1:47:25 | 1:47:27 | |
isn't the full line-up... | 1:47:27 | 1:47:29 | |
"But booking acts is a complex
process that needs to factor | 1:47:29 | 1:47:33 | |
in touring schedules,
the fast-paced and changing music | 1:47:33 | 1:47:37 | |
landscape and, of course, acts'
willingness to play the festival. | 1:47:37 | 1:47:40 | |
We don't see gender
as a defining factor." | 1:47:40 | 1:47:48 | |
We can speak now to Yaw Owusu,
who is the curator of | 1:47:48 | 1:47:51 | |
Liverpool International Music
Festival. | 1:47:51 | 1:47:52 | |
He also has a music label
and manages male and female artists. | 1:47:52 | 1:47:55 | |
Vanessa Reid, chief executive
of the PRS Foundation. | 1:47:55 | 1:47:57 | |
And rapper Little Simz. | 1:47:57 | 1:48:03 | |
Thank you all for joining us. Seems
to be the topic of the year, gender. | 1:48:03 | 1:48:09 | |
When it comes to booking artists for
the Festival, is gender something | 1:48:09 | 1:48:14 | |
you take into consideration or is
that a recent thing? Not really, you | 1:48:14 | 1:48:18 | |
focus on the audience and the remit
of the Liverpool International Music | 1:48:18 | 1:48:22 | |
Festival is to reflect the music
people like and reflect the | 1:48:22 | 1:48:25 | |
ever-changing relationship Liverpool
has with music. So gender is not | 1:48:25 | 1:48:29 | |
really a factor, I don't lean
heavily to male or female, just what | 1:48:29 | 1:48:34 | |
people like. Our line-ups tend to be
very balanced in every single way | 1:48:34 | 1:48:40 | |
and that is just because I feel the
audience wants that and it is | 1:48:40 | 1:48:43 | |
important to do. But you are leaving
it to fate, in a way, and if we are | 1:48:43 | 1:48:48 | |
seeing in the case of other
festivals, it is great that yours | 1:48:48 | 1:48:51 | |
ends up being balanced, but as we
have seen, so many are not and if we | 1:48:51 | 1:48:55 | |
take away the male artists from a
lot of the festival line-ups, you | 1:48:55 | 1:48:58 | |
only have a few female artists on
their? That is why a product like | 1:48:58 | 1:49:04 | |
Key Change is so important, because
it forces the dialogue, forces the | 1:49:04 | 1:49:10 | |
conversation, so places where gender
balance is not so strong, hopefully | 1:49:10 | 1:49:13 | |
that changes. Vanessa, your target,
as I understand it, is also 2020 to | 1:49:13 | 1:49:19 | |
achieve gender balance? 2022. Why so
long? I think that is a short amount | 1:49:19 | 1:49:28 | |
of time to achieve the change that
festivals have proposed was that | 1:49:28 | 1:49:30 | |
they want to achieve. We have been
working with festivals in Europe and | 1:49:30 | 1:49:35 | |
North America and supporting
emerging female artists and industry | 1:49:35 | 1:49:39 | |
professionals, but they said, let's
take this further, let's set up a | 1:49:39 | 1:49:42 | |
gender balanced pledge and because
last year I think on average women | 1:49:42 | 1:49:48 | |
made up 26% of the festival line-up
in the UK, so we are talking about | 1:49:48 | 1:49:54 | |
doubling the target in a five-year
time frame so I think that is quite | 1:49:54 | 1:49:58 | |
ambitious but also achievable, and
that is what we want to see, people | 1:49:58 | 1:50:01 | |
working together to achieve change
that I think everyone wants. Is that | 1:50:01 | 1:50:06 | |
good enough, 2022 target? I believe
so, yeah, for sure, and I believe it | 1:50:06 | 1:50:11 | |
is possible. Especially with my
festival and what I am trying to | 1:50:11 | 1:50:18 | |
achieve yearly, it seems to be
heading that way, so I think 2022 | 1:50:18 | 1:50:22 | |
for sure. Tell me about your
experience, being a female artist in | 1:50:22 | 1:50:26 | |
the industry, are you in a minority,
do you face bigger challenges, is it | 1:50:26 | 1:50:30 | |
the case, I don't know, that the
industry outside of artists, the | 1:50:30 | 1:50:37 | |
people making the big decisions, our
men, is that why women are not being | 1:50:37 | 1:50:40 | |
booked? Yeah, but I also think it
boils down a lot to women are just | 1:50:40 | 1:50:47 | |
not being, I feel, played in terms
of the radio factor, all these | 1:50:47 | 1:50:53 | |
different factors that come into
play which it appears like... Break | 1:50:53 | 1:50:57 | |
them down, what are they, radio the
first one? For sure, myself, I am | 1:50:57 | 1:51:03 | |
unsigned, independent, so everything
is done in-house, there is not a | 1:51:03 | 1:51:06 | |
label or a big machine pushing me or
handing me these opportunities. I | 1:51:06 | 1:51:12 | |
played a bunch of festivals last
year which I actually found the | 1:51:12 | 1:51:16 | |
majority of them I was the only
woman on the line-up, or at least on | 1:51:16 | 1:51:20 | |
my stage, and with my festival, we
did the maths yesterday, it is 75% | 1:51:20 | 1:51:28 | |
women, which is insane to me. If I
am able to do that at my level, then | 1:51:28 | 1:51:33 | |
the big festivals are. When you talk
about radio, you meal radio play, | 1:51:33 | 1:51:37 | |
female artists not being paid
enough? Yeah, I think it is not as | 1:51:37 | 1:51:41 | |
much as it should be, in my opinion.
What is that down too, is it a | 1:51:41 | 1:51:46 | |
conscious or subconscious thing? I
don't know, honestly, I have no | 1:51:46 | 1:51:50 | |
answer to that. What about you as a
female artist making it in the | 1:51:50 | 1:51:54 | |
industry, what are the challenges?
Are any of them dictated by George | 1:51:54 | 1:51:59 | |
on the? For sure, especially because
I wrap and rap is, some would say, a | 1:51:59 | 1:52:04 | |
male dominated sport. My gender has
come into play over the years, of | 1:52:04 | 1:52:11 | |
course, being the fact that I am
female, I am young, I am black, that | 1:52:11 | 1:52:16 | |
is the reality of the situation, and
I have found many challenges in | 1:52:16 | 1:52:24 | |
that, but I think over time as I
have grown and my family has grown, | 1:52:24 | 1:52:27 | |
people have taken to me. He said a
female black artist in the industry, | 1:52:27 | 1:52:33 | |
being a rapper, what is your
response then when you see Stormzy | 1:52:33 | 1:52:36 | |
has made such a lot of progress,
picking up two big awards at the | 1:52:36 | 1:52:40 | |
Brits, his performance at the end
was being called iconic. Do you | 1:52:40 | 1:52:45 | |
think the next artist potentially
next year, the year after, will be a | 1:52:45 | 1:52:49 | |
female Stormzy, to achieve the same
amount of success? Hopefully. You, | 1:52:49 | 1:52:55 | |
possibly! I hope so! Stormzy is a
good friend of mine, I have seen his | 1:52:55 | 1:53:03 | |
journey, so happy for his success at
the minute and it is what we need | 1:53:03 | 1:53:07 | |
and what young people need to see,
especially now, it is all these, | 1:53:07 | 1:53:13 | |
especially in my area, it is nice to
be able to see that real model and | 1:53:13 | 1:53:18 | |
be able to say, yeah, they have done
it and come from the same | 1:53:18 | 1:53:23 | |
environment as me, I am able to
achieve that, I am able to do good. | 1:53:23 | 1:53:27 | |
What, for you, would be a sign that
gender parity has been achieved in | 1:53:27 | 1:53:32 | |
the industry? One thing about the
Key Change campaign, success is when | 1:53:32 | 1:53:35 | |
it is not needed any more so I hope
in five, ten years from now we will | 1:53:35 | 1:53:40 | |
be at a point when we don't need to
keep talking about this and the | 1:53:40 | 1:53:43 | |
stage is better reflect the
audiences they are serving, and I | 1:53:43 | 1:53:50 | |
think promoting a bowl models, as
Little Simz was saying, is | 1:53:50 | 1:53:53 | |
important. We saw Dua Lipa at the
Brits are accepting her reward and | 1:53:53 | 1:53:57 | |
talking about the people who
inspired her to take that step and | 1:53:57 | 1:54:00 | |
make such a success out of her
career so continuing to promote role | 1:54:00 | 1:54:05 | |
models on stage while investing in
talent is really important. Thank | 1:54:05 | 1:54:08 | |
you for coming on to talk to us
today. A spokesperson from | 1:54:08 | 1:54:12 | |
Boardmasters told us...
We are always on the lookout for new | 1:54:12 | 1:54:15 | |
artists to perform at the festival
alongside the existing surf | 1:54:15 | 1:54:19 | |
competition featuring the world's
best male and female competitors. | 1:54:19 | 1:54:24 | |
This year's complete music line-up | 1:54:24 | 1:54:34 | |
is yet to play the festival. We
don't see gender as a defining | 1:54:37 | 1:54:40 | |
factor.
The MD of the company that runs the | 1:54:40 | 1:54:46 | |
Wireless festival said, 18 female
artists were approached to play but | 1:54:46 | 1:54:49 | |
only three were secured for the
first announcement, several were | 1:54:49 | 1:54:52 | |
unable to commit due to touring
schedules and other regions but in | 1:54:52 | 1:54:56 | |
an ideal world all 18 would be
confirmed and we would be having a | 1:54:56 | 1:55:01 | |
different conversation. I recognise
there is an imbalance in the music | 1:55:01 | 1:55:04 | |
industry and I am actively trying to
correct that with the Rebalance | 1:55:04 | 1:55:09 | |
programme I launched in August last
year. | 1:55:09 | 1:55:13 | |
Popular social media app Snapchat
lost one of it's most | 1:55:13 | 1:55:15 | |
influential users this week -
as well as £1 billion | 1:55:15 | 1:55:17 | |
from it's stock market value. | 1:55:18 | 1:55:22 | |
The reality TV star Kylie Jenner
tweeted to her 24 million followers | 1:55:22 | 1:55:25 | |
that she no longer uses Snapchat
after the new update. | 1:55:25 | 1:55:30 | |
She later professed her love for the
apps, calling at her first love. | 1:55:30 | 1:55:36 | |
The app's parent company Snap's
shares dropped by almost 8%. | 1:55:36 | 1:55:38 | |
One million people have signed
a petition demanding Snap change | 1:55:38 | 1:55:41 | |
the app back to how it was before
the update. | 1:55:41 | 1:55:47 | |
Let's speak to the technology
expert Tom Cheesewright. | 1:55:47 | 1:55:52 | |
Is the update really that bad, Tom?!
I think if you are used to a certain | 1:55:52 | 1:55:57 | |
way of doing things, and this is a
very tight community and particular | 1:55:57 | 1:56:00 | |
demographic, then any change is bad
change, just like when Facebook | 1:56:00 | 1:56:04 | |
changed its news feed a few years
ago, people react against it. Maybe | 1:56:04 | 1:56:07 | |
they will settle down, but not so
far. For people who don't know about | 1:56:07 | 1:56:12 | |
Snapchat, what exactly was the
update and what was it that angered | 1:56:12 | 1:56:17 | |
people? Two things, one is the move
towards bringing in more of the | 1:56:17 | 1:56:22 | |
brands, the publishers into the news
feed, and the second one is about | 1:56:22 | 1:56:31 | |
mixing those up with your friends'
stories, people found it harder to | 1:56:31 | 1:56:33 | |
see their friends' stories and
harder to navigate through that. In | 1:56:33 | 1:56:35 | |
terms of generally the idea of
Snapchat in the first place was | 1:56:35 | 1:56:38 | |
people being able to post stories
that would then disappear after a | 1:56:38 | 1:56:41 | |
certain amount of time, how much of
Snapchat's success, or lack of, | 1:56:41 | 1:56:47 | |
depending on what you think, have
been influenced by Instagram | 1:56:47 | 1:56:51 | |
launching its own Insta stories?
There has been a constant battle | 1:56:51 | 1:56:58 | |
between them, Snapchat started to
claim more users recently and | 1:56:58 | 1:57:02 | |
forecast said that Facebook would
lose users to Snapchat but messages | 1:57:02 | 1:57:07 | |
that disappear don't create a great
model for generating revenue. Again, | 1:57:07 | 1:57:14 | |
reading the papers today, the owner
has picked up something like a 450 | 1:57:14 | 1:57:18 | |
million salary for last year?! That
is a lot of money! For a company who | 1:57:18 | 1:57:23 | |
shares have dropped. It is very
stock related but the company also | 1:57:23 | 1:57:29 | |
posted record results, the share
price jumped 26% two weeks ago so an | 1:57:29 | 1:57:33 | |
8% fall is perhaps not so dramatic
in those terms. What do you think | 1:57:33 | 1:57:37 | |
the future of Snapchat is? I think
it has a hard slog against Facebook | 1:57:37 | 1:57:42 | |
which is rapid at copying its
beaches but if it can keep its core | 1:57:42 | 1:57:47 | |
of users and grow with people like
me, maybe Ed can succeed. | 1:57:47 | 1:57:51 | |
Thank you very much. I want to
finish on some comments, Abbey on | 1:57:51 | 1:57:55 | |
Facebook on organ donation says, why
would people donate organs? It is | 1:57:55 | 1:57:59 | |
selfish for families to say no
because, let's face it, they don't | 1:57:59 | 1:58:02 | |
need them any more. Families can
override donor card at the moment | 1:58:02 | 1:58:07 | |
which is wrong.
Graham tweeted to say the Government | 1:58:07 | 1:58:10 | |
is legalising body snatching. Let us
know the level of compensation if | 1:58:10 | 1:58:16 | |
organs are taken from dead patients
by mistake before they start this. | 1:58:16 | 1:58:20 | |
On Monday, Victoria will be
at a Pupil Referral Unit | 1:58:20 | 1:58:22 | |
for primary school pupils -
hearing from them, their parents | 1:58:22 | 1:58:24 | |
and teachers about how they're
trying to turn their lives around. | 1:58:24 | 1:58:27 | |
From me, though, thank
you for your company today. | 1:58:27 | 1:58:29 |