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Hello, it's Wednesday 28th
February, it's 9 o'clock, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
I'm Victoria Derbyshire,
welcome to the programme. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:17 | |
Amber warnings for snow are in place
for large part of the country. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
Drivers have been one to take care,
hundreds of schools are closed and | 0:00:23 | 0:00:30 | |
public transport is widely affected. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
With more snow overnight
and temperatures falling as low | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
as minus 12, some councils have
brought in emergency measures | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
to offer immediate accommodation
to people sleeping on the streets. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
We'll be talking to one rough
sleeper and two people | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
who have a roof over their heads
but can't afford heating. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
A key document detailing
the proposed terms of the UK's | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
departure from the EU has
just been published. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
It says Northern Ireland will have
to follow the rules of the EU's | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
single market if no one can come up
with a plan to avoid | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
a so-called hard border
with barriers and checks. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
We are absolutely clear
there will be no hard border | 0:00:58 | 0:00:59 | |
in Northern Ireland. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:00 | |
It's really important we don't go
back to the borders of the past, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
and that is why we are seeking
special arrangements | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
with the European Union. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:07 | |
And we'll talk exclusively
to the top police officer tasked | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
with catching Britain's paedophiles. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
It comes as a charity set up to help
victims of child abuse says it saw | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
a huge increase in contacts
to its helpline and website | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
after footballer Andy Woodward
appeared on our programme talking | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
about the abuse he was subjected to
by paedophile coach Barry Bennell. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:32 | |
Welcome to the programme,
we're live until 11 this morning. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
After 10, we'll talk about Attention
Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:48 | |
The ADHD Foundation has
told our programme they're writing | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
to the government to demand earlier
diagnosis for children. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
They say delays mean too
many children end up | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
being excluded from school. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
Do get in touch on all the stories
we're talking about this morning | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
use the hashtag #Victorialive
and if you text, you will be charged | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
at the standard network rate. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
If you have ADHD or you have a child
with ADHD, letter snow, your | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
experiences. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
The European Union has, in the past
hour, published a draft | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
of its Brexit withdrawal agreement
for the first time, detailing | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
the terms of the UK's departure. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
It is expected to say
that Northern Ireland | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
will have to follow the rules
of the single market, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
if other solutions can't be found, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
to avoid a so-called hard border
with barriers and checks. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
Downing Street has
dismissed any prospect | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
of a return to a hard border. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
Let's talk to Norman at Westminster.
Is this border issue the big issue | 0:02:50 | 0:02:56 | |
or are there a number that are going
to come out of this document? This | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
is the big Brexit bust up. This is
the first we have had where both | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
sides seem to have dug in, and we
could be facing a real showdown. You | 0:03:05 | 0:03:11 | |
just listen to the language around
it this morning, with | 0:03:11 | 0:03:19 | |
it this morning, with Brexiteers
accusing the European Commission of | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
trying to annex in Northern Ireland,
a former EU trade commissioner | 0:03:21 | 0:03:28 | |
saying the UK is heading towards a
cliff edge of Northern Ireland. What | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
is going on? When we were in the EU
and the Customs market, there wasn't | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
a problem because they did not have
to be a border between Northern | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
Ireland and the Republic of Ireland
because we were all in the EU | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
together. However, when we leave,
the question is, how do you avoid a | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
border? The answer we get from the
EU today is that Northern Ireland | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
would remain in the EU's Customs
union. So it would still abide by | 0:03:52 | 0:03:58 | |
many of the rules and regulations of
the EU when it came to trade and | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
therefore there wouldn't be any need
for border. But Downing Street say | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
this is competing unacceptable
because it would threaten the | 0:04:06 | 0:04:14 | |
territorial integrity of the UK, it
would be almost moving Northern | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Ireland away from the UK and closer
to the EU. Mrs May is dependent, has | 0:04:18 | 0:04:27 | |
government is reliant on the support
of the DUP who are adamantly opposed | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
to the idea of moving away from the
UK and closer to the EU. We have a | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
fundamental clash looming over this
issue of the Northern Ireland | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
border. It's very hard to see how
you can mesh the two sides together. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:47 | |
This could really be a key sticking
point in the Brexit process. Thank | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
you, Norman. We will talk more about
this in the next hour of the | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
programme. Let's bring you the rest
of the news. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:02 | |
It's another morning of freezing
conditions after temperatures | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
fell to -12 in some areas overnight. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
The cold weather has already
caused major disruption, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
but forecasters say the worst is yet
to come, with warnings | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
in place until the weekend. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
Here's our correspondent
Jon Donnison. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
The so-called "beast from the east"
has already left much of Britain | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
under a blanket of snow. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
This is Kent, which has
received some of the worst | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
of the weather so far. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:30 | |
On the ground it has been a much
less pretty picture for drivers, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
with the police reporting scores
of accidents across the country. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
Today again conditions on the roads
are expected to be treacherous. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
Weather warnings for ice and snow
are in place for much of the UK. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
They are expected to
remain until the weekend. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
Yorkshire and the North East have
seen some of the heaviest snowfall. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:57 | |
With more expected today, many
schools are likely to stay closed. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
When I was younger the snow
was thicker and we still | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
managed to get to school. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
I think it is the teachers
who can't get in. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
That is the problem in this area
because of the outlying villages | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
that the teachers come from. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
For Britain's homeless,
this is in central London, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
it was another tough night,
temperatures down to -10 | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
in some parts and feeling
much colder in the wind. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
The elderly too are vulnerable. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
In Hull extra staff at meals
on wheels services are being brought | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
in to deliver hot food. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
I can't get out to get
meals and things. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
So it's just wonderful. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
The only complaint I have
got is they never bring | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
you a drop of brandy! | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
And over the next few days
that might be needed. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
Forecasters say they expect no letup
in the freezing weather | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
until at least the weekend. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:54 | |
Jon Donnison, BBC News. | 0:06:54 | 0:07:00 | |
Let's get the latest from our
correspondents out and about now. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:06 | |
Let's go to Glasgow and the North
Yorks Moors. How bad is it in | 0:07:06 | 0:07:12 | |
Glasgow? It is pretty awful although
it doesn't look it was the beautiful | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
blue sky. We're getting a bit of
respite. Glasgow has more or less | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
ground to hold this morning, there's
been problem on the motorways, the M | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
74, the Route between Scotland and
England, there's almost been white | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
out conditions on that. This is the
picture across most of the country | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
today. Glasgow airport has suspended
its operations while they try and | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
clear the runway, they hope the run
will be open soon. Train services | 0:07:37 | 0:07:44 | |
have been affected and the advice
from the government is don't travel | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
unless you really have two unless
you are in an amber warning area. -- | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
if you are in an amber warning area.
We can vouch for that, the roads are | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
very slippery this morning. The
winners if you want to look at it | 0:07:58 | 0:08:04 | |
that way are tens of thousands of
schoolchildren who have got an | 0:08:04 | 0:08:10 | |
unexpected day off as all councils
in southern and central counters, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:17 | |
most councils, sorry, have closed
their schools. Check the BBC website | 0:08:17 | 0:08:23 | |
if you need information. The weather
is expected to take a turn for the | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
worse. The amber warning is at its
highest level which our forecasters | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
say they have never seen before with
snow and it could be on the cusp of | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
becoming an red warning. My
colleague is in North Yorkshire. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:42 | |
Yes, good morning. Mrs Thornton le
Dale on the edge of the North York | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
Moors. -- this is Thornton le Dale.
They have had six centimetres of | 0:08:46 | 0:08:52 | |
snow, you can see how deep that
freshly fallen snow is. The main | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
route through the village has been
gritted and ploughed but as quickly | 0:08:56 | 0:09:05 | |
as they plough, they get more snow
coming down. The bus is heading to | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
Kirkbymoorside but the bust
timetables are disrupted quite | 0:09:09 | 0:09:16 | |
considerably at the moment due to
the bad conditions. The wind chill | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
in the village is about -12 at the
moment, so it cuts in half. Hundreds | 0:09:19 | 0:09:27 | |
of schools across Yorkshire is shut,
the local village school here is | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
closed today, conditions much worse
than yesterday if you're heading | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
out. Do take care, allow plenty of
journey time. If you have a | 0:09:33 | 0:09:39 | |
vulnerable neighbour, the idea is to
maybe check on them to make sure | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
they are K. -- OK.
It is not just the UK experiencing | 0:09:42 | 0:09:51 | |
freezing conditions, the so-called
beast from the East has brought | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
heavy snow across Europe. Record
temperatures and snow for paralysed | 0:09:53 | 0:09:59 | |
part of Croatia causing havoc on the
roads and causing residents to | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
evacuate several but villages. We
can see the depth of the snowfall in | 0:10:04 | 0:10:11 | |
Bosnia. In Bulgaria, villagers were
left without electricity and schools | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
were closed. Some of the ice used
conditions were reported in Italy | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
with Rome seeing snow for the first
time in six years. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
Public satisfaction with GP services
has fallen to the lowest | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
levels ever recorded,
according to a new survey. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
The findings from the British
Social Attitudes survey | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
show people in England,
Scotland and Wales having concerns | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
around a lack of funding
and staff shortages. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
Here's our health
correspondent Dominic Hughes. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
Each working day more than a million
of us will access the NHS | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
through our local GP. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:48 | |
In previous surveys of public
attitudes to the health service | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
they have been the most highly
rated, but the most recent | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
poll shows a significant
fall in satisfaction, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
mirroring the overall
picture of the NHS. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
The annual survey shows overall
satisfaction at 57% is down by 6%, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:06 | |
the lowest since 2011. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
GP services, normally top
of the poll, fell by 7% to 65%, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
the lowest since the survey
began in 1983. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:18 | |
Staff shortages and a lack
of funding were two | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
of the main reasons people say
for being dissatisfied. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
We know people are increasingly
dissatisfied with their access | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
to getting GP appointments
and so on, so there is | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
something to be done. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
It is not just about money
to fix the problems, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
but these are the things the public
notice and care about and it is | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
something the government should also
notice and care about. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
Overall satisfaction levels
with the NHS are still higher | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
than in the 1990s and the Department
of Health and social care points out | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
the majority of patients
are satisfied with the NHS. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
But GPs say underinvestment
and a shortage of doctors is now | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
having an impact on their patients. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:06 | |
President Trump's son-in-law
and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
has had his security clearance
at the White House downgraded. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Having previously had a leading role
in the administration, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
Mr Kushner now won't be able
to view sensitive documents. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
There's speculation his previous
business dealings may be the reason | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
for his change of status. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
A BBC charity says it has sacked six
people for sexual harassment | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
or for watching pornography
on work computers. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
BBC Media Action said the incidents
happened overseas in the past ten | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
years and those sacked
were all foreign nationals. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
It comes as international charities
face closer scrutiny | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
following claims of sexual
misconduct by Oxfam staff in Haiti. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:51 | |
Two big high street names
are on the brink of collapse | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
with both Toys R Us and Maplin
trying to find buyers. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
The struggling retailers,
two of the UK's best known chains, | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
are understood to have put
administrators on stand-by after | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
failing to secure a rescue deal. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
Toys R Us employs around 3,000
workers, whilst Maplin has | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
2,500 members of staff. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
The vast majority of cannabis seized
by police has been found to be | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
super-strength skunk,
which is linked to a higher risk | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
of psychotic mental health episodes. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Researchers at King's College London
say the increasing dominance of such | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
high strength strains of the drug
poses a significant risk | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
to the mental health of users. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
In 2005 only half of cannabis
confiscations related to skunk, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
but that rose to 94% by 2016. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:47 | |
Spice Girl Mel B has revealed
that the band have been invited | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
to the wedding of Prince Harry
and Meghan Markle. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
Appearing on a US talk show,
she declined to comment | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
on whether the group would be
performing at the royal | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
wedding in May. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:00 | |
The news comes after reports
that the five members of the group | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
reunited recently for the first
time since 2012. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
That's a summary of
the latest BBC News. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
More at 9:30. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:17 | |
In a few moments, we will get an
exclusive interview with the police | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
officer in charge of catching the
paedophiles of the UK. Ben Stokes | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
really making his presence felt in
the England cricket site? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:37 | |
the England cricket site? He's had a
lot of bad headlines recently. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
But... | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
Another great display
from Ben Stokes as he settles back | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
into the England side. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:46 | |
England have beaten New Zealand this
morning by six wickets to level | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
the one-day series at 1-1. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
The all-rounder was playing
in his second match on his return | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
after five months out,
he was named man-of-the-match | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
after hitting an unbeaten 63, taking
two wickets and being involved | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
in two run outs. | 0:14:58 | 0:14:59 | |
England dismissed the hosts
for 223 in Tauranga. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
England captain Eoin Morgan
had a knock of 62. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
The third match of the
best-of-five series starts | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
on Saturday in Wellington. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:14 | |
Undoubtably, I think this is the
greatest thing to have happened so | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
far today... | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
Check out this, one of the sixes
which sent England on their way | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
to victory was brilliantly caught
by a fan in the crowd. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
If you can catch the ball
with one hand in the stands | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
you win 25,000 pounds,
that's exactly what this guy did | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
and look a the celebration. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
He knocks his friend out of the way
and tries to go for it, that man! I | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
love it, I could watch that all day!
But there was a football player who | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
didn't let the blizzard interrupt
his game? Yes, a couple of | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
players... | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Almost a whole round of non-league
games were wiped out in England last | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
night because of the snow,
with six games in the Scottish | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
leagues also called off -
but in League 1, Peterbrough Walsall | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
went ahead despite these
scenes at London Road - | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
this is a video of the Peterborough
players Steven Taylor | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
and Junior Morias grabbing some
brooms to help clear the lines | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
as heavy snow fell
during their 2-1 win. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
I think they were doing that because
they were 2-1 up, I don't think if | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
they were 2-1 down they would be
working as hard! Peterborough got | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
the 2-1 win. It looks more like a
cross country course in the Winter | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
Olympics rather than a football
pitch! Know what chance do Rochdale | 0:16:25 | 0:16:34 | |
have of knocking their opponents out
of the FA Cup tonight, Tottenham? | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
Slim! | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
Tottenham are fourth
in the Premier League | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
unbeaten in 15 games,
Rochdale are bottom of League 1. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
63 places between them. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
But what a expericnce this will be
for Rochdale who have | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
nothing to lose tonight,
they will dare to dream. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Rochdale manager Keith Hill
says his team must act | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
"like a Premier League side"
in tonight's replay at Wembley. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
The League One side scored late
on to draw 2-2 with Tottenham | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
earlier this month. | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
Steve Davies with the dramatic
injury-time equaliser | 0:16:59 | 0:17:05 | |
The winner of tonight's
tie will play Swansea | 0:17:05 | 0:17:06 | |
who are into the quarter finals
of the FA Cup for the | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
first time since 1964. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
2-0 they beat Sheffield Wednesday
in their fifth round replay last | 0:17:11 | 0:17:18 | |
night, that's Nathan Dyer
with the second as Swansea boss | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
Caros Carvallyhal got one over
the team who sacked him in December. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
-- Carlos Carvalhal. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
I'll be back with
the headlines at 9.30 | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
Full | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
First this morning, an interview
with the police officer in charge | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
of catching Britain's paedophiles. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:41 | |
His name is Simon Bailey,
he's the Chief | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
Constable of Norfolk police
and the National Police | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Chiefs Council lead
on combating child abuse. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:47 | |
He also heads up Operation Hydrant,
the nationwide inquiry | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
into historical child sexual abuse. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
It comes as a national child abuse
helpline reveals there were more | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
than 10,000 call attempts and 50%
rise in visits to their website | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
in the five weeks after
footballer Andy Woodward | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
appeared on our programme talking
about the abuse he suffered | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
at the hands of paedophile coach
Barry Bennell. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:10 | |
NAPAC, the National Association
for People Abused in Childhood saw | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
a surge in the number of people
getting in touch in the five weeks | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
between 16 November
and 20 December 2016. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:22 | |
We will speak to Chief Constable
Bailey in a moment. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
First here's a reminder of how
the football abuse scandal unfolded. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
The impact it's had on my life
is just catastrophic and you live | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
with that all your life. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
And I can't put into words
what that has done to me. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:43 | |
HE SIGHS. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
Both my parents have
died and that hurts me. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Yeah. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Not telling them. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
Does it? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
Yeah. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
I don't know that it's a good thing
that I did or I didn't tell them | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
because they would blame themselves. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:16 | |
This has not been easy for me to do
but I felt that I needed to do this | 0:19:18 | 0:19:26 | |
so that other people will come out. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
I've lived a normal life,
I've lived a normal life, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
as normal as I can. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
But when you've got something
like that inside of you, it's | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
something like that is going to stay
with you until the day you die. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:46 | |
What we've got to do is to make sure
that those victims are supported. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
That this doesn't turn
into an exercise where football | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
tries to protect its own reputation. | 0:19:55 | 0:20:03 | |
When you signed that
confidentiality agreement, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:11 | |
what were you thinking
when they wanted you to keep quiet | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
about it, about the abuse
that you'd suffered? | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
With the document, I was basically
pushed into a corner. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:23 | |
Let's talk to Chief Constable Simon
Bailey, the lead officer | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
for child protection at
the National Police Chiefs Councils | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
and the head of Operation Hydrant,
the nationwide inquiry | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
into historical child sexual abuse. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
If you have a question for him, send
me an e-mail or message me on | 0:20:56 | 0:21:02 | |
Twitter. Chief Constable Bailey,
thank you for speaking to us. Last | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
week we saw former | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
thank you for speaking to us. Last
week we saw former football coach | 0:21:07 | 0:21:07 | |
Gary Benno sentenced to 31 years in
jail for abusing boys in the 1970s, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:13 | |
80s and 90s. How do you react to the
outcome of that trial? I have | 0:21:13 | 0:21:19 | |
obviously watched the trial with
interest -- Barry Bennell. I have | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
been engaged with a number of
parties involved and I was of course | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
very pleased to see the outcome and
I think justice will be seen to have | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
been served. As you are the lead on
combating child sexual abuse, is it | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
right that the police spend time and
resources investigating allegations | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
from 30 or years ago? | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
I think you have seen in your
programmes and in the football | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
scandal in particular, the damage
has been done and the fact is now | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
Bennell is serving a long custodial
sentence for the crimes he has | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
committed. It will take time and we
should investigate these allegations | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
because age is no barrier to
continuing to offend. I think it is | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
important that the police service is
able to demonstrate a commitment to | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
taking allegations of this nature
seriously. The victims have the | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
confidence to come forward and
report abuse. So that we can ensure | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
that their abusers are no longer in
a position of trust and are no | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
longer able to carry on abusing. If
a paedophile did it 30 years ago, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
they could still be doing it now,
that is one of the justifications | 0:22:29 | 0:22:35 | |
for investigating historical
allegations? Absolutely, we still | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
received reports where adult males,
in particular, are still abusing | 0:22:38 | 0:22:45 | |
into their 70s or 80s. Is there a
danger to children in Britain from | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
sexual abuse, is that danger growing
now? Unfortunately I think it is, if | 0:22:49 | 0:22:56 | |
you look at the increasing number of
reports and crimes we are recording, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:03 | |
I am certain that victim confidence
is having a lot to do with that | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
increase but I cannot help but think
that volumes of levels of abuse are | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
increasing and I think so much of
this is being driven by the World | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
Wide Web. If you look at the action
that law enforcement is taking place | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
across the country, targeting those
people who are viewing it indecent | 0:23:17 | 0:23:23 | |
images of children, we are arresting
430 men every month. We are | 0:23:23 | 0:23:32 | |
safeguarding 700 children every
month, that is just from offenders | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
viewing images. That is not from the
tens of thousands of men | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
predominantly going online to groom
children, so that they provide them | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
with a sexualise image, or groom
them to then rape them. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:52 | |
Unfortunately I think we have to
look at it from a societal | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
perspective and we now have two
consider that unfortunately there | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
are no more opportunities to abuse
and abuse could well be on the | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
increase. How many potential child
abusers do you think there are in | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
Britain? I think that is very
difficult to put in and on. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
Potentially it could be unhelpful.
Sorry to interrupt, you have just | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
said that you are arresting 438 men
every month, and that is just for | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
viewing indecent images. That is
correct, I think we have to accept | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
that there are tens of thousands
that the most important thing from | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
my perspective is that
unfortunately, the focus has been | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
upon the police service and what I
believe has been a very strong | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
response to the threat. But
ultimately, Victoria, every time we | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
make an arrest, the damage has
already been done and we have to | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
start looking at how we prevent the
abuse in the first place. For me, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:50 | |
that is around ensuring that parents
are confident around speaking to | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
their children about the risks of
technology and also the threat that | 0:24:54 | 0:25:00 | |
exists within that familial circle
and for children to have a | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
resilience and confidence to report
any concerns. The importance of | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
reinforcing the message within
schools and the importance of PSA | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
chief education and awareness and,
from a technical perspective, we | 0:25:13 | 0:25:20 | |
have to start putting pressure on
companies that provide networks, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:27 | |
infrastructure and platforms that
allow people to perpetrate abuse -- | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
PSHE education. I will ask about
technology in a moment but can you | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
confirm potentially there are tens
of thousands of paedophiles in | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
Britain. Is that 20,000, 30,000? I
think 20,000 is probably a | 0:25:37 | 0:25:46 | |
conservative estimate. So what,
double that? I'm not sure that | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
trying to put a figure on it and
gain a headline is helpful. I'm | 0:25:50 | 0:25:56 | |
actually just trying to understand
the scale of it in this country. The | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
scale of it is huge. There is
absolutely no doubt in my mind | 0:26:00 | 0:26:05 | |
whatsoever. I think it is one of the
greatest threats we currently face | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
from a policing perspective. You
only have to look at the activity | 0:26:08 | 0:26:14 | |
taking place across the country
every single day, dealing with | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
reports of non-recent abuse, dealing
with reports of familial abuse, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
which is still by far the greatest
volume of abuse that we take that | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
then looking at how we meet the
challenges of abuse that is being | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
perpetrated through digital
technology. And the increasing | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
volumes that we had to deal with
than the chain -- changing volume of | 0:26:36 | 0:26:44 | |
that. Now we are dealing with an
emerging threat where live streaming | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
platforms are affording men and on
occasions women the opportunity to | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
seek to groom children. And what
should the social media companies, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:57 | |
Internet companies, do about that?
You've made it clear in this | 0:26:57 | 0:27:02 | |
interview and I have seen your
tweets where you have said other | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
stakeholders, as you politely put
it, need to match the kind of | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
commitment your officers are making?
And I genuinely believe the | 0:27:08 | 0:27:14 | |
technology exists through artificial
intelligence and algorithms that are | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
already there, that we can make
uploading of indecent images really | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
difficult and we can take indecent
images down. But the greatest threat | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
that I am now seeing is the chat
rooms, live streaming applications | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
that are now being used by
paedophiles to exploit children, and | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
those companies that are providing
those networks, that infrastructure, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
I believe they should be policing
it. I think it is unrealistic, it is | 0:27:39 | 0:27:45 | |
impossible, for the police service
to be able to do that as well. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
Recognising all of the challenges
that we currently face. The work | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
that you face is overwhelming
because you are at saturation point? | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
We are having to deal with
unprecedented volumes of reports and | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
if we just look back at October
2016, where did the football scandal | 0:28:01 | 0:28:11 | |
come from? Andrew Woodward had the
courage to come forward. Look at the | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
volumes of reports that have come
forward as a result. Look at the | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
demand that was placed upon a number
of police forces. Are they going to | 0:28:18 | 0:28:24 | |
be further incidents or reports like
this? I cannot rule it out. If you | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
look at the number of reports that
Operation Hydrant receives on a | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
monthly basis, those numbers are
still in the region of 120, 125 | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
reports every month. We are getting
a really good understanding of where | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
non-recent abuse has been
perpetrated. It is predominantly in | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
schools and within care settings.
But that is just one of the volumes | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
of reports that we are having to
deal with. As we said, familial | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
abuse takes place within the home
environment or the immediate home | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
environment. That still accounts for
the greatest amount of abuse. But | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
there is no doubt in my mind that
technology is now affording people | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
that have a sexual interest in
children an opportunity to abuse in | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
a way that they were never, ever
able to previously. I would like to | 0:29:09 | 0:29:16 | |
ask you about self-styled Paedophile
Hunters, normally parents, who set | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
out to catch people who may be
grooming children and arranging to | 0:29:20 | 0:29:26 | |
meet what they think our children or
teenagers but turn out to be the | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
so-called Paedophile Hunters, are
they doing the right thing? I have | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
said on numerous occasions that I do
not think they are doing the right | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
thing. They are taking unnecessary
risks, they are putting children's | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
lives at risk. They are putting the
lives of innocent people at risk. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
This is not something that should be
tackled by people who are not | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
professional or trained, and have
undertaken the correct risk | 0:29:51 | 0:30:01 | |
assessments. This should be left to
the police and members of the public | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
have concerns that an individual may
be seeking to groom a child, or | 0:30:04 | 0:30:09 | |
sexually abuse a child, they should
report their concerns to us so that | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
we can act upon those concerns. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
I want to ask you finally how you go
about investigating crimes from so | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
long ago, if you can give an
insight, there are no forensics, you | 0:30:22 | 0:30:28 | |
cannot do house-to-house enquiries,
so how do you go about making those | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
investigations and building a case?
The most important thing is we | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
thoroughly investigate and research
and listened with great care and | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
consideration to the victims that
are coming forward, and through that | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
process, we gain their confidence.
And they're able to demonstrate that | 0:30:44 | 0:30:51 | |
confidence to disclose more and more
and that will point us in the | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
direction of other victims. You then
develop a rich picture where people | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
are able to recall certain times and
places where certain people were | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
there. And Andrew Woodward was the
catalyst, and your programme shone a | 0:31:05 | 0:31:12 | |
light on this. Some anime or victims
then had the -- so many more victims | 0:31:12 | 0:31:18 | |
then had the confidence to come
forward. So much of our work on | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
non-recent investigations is around
the skills and ability of incredibly | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
talented and dedicated police
officers spending time getting the | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
confidence of victims and survivors
who are then able to create that | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
rich picture where they demonstrate
a system of abuse, a particular | 0:31:34 | 0:31:40 | |
style of abuse. And they are able to
present to the courts really | 0:31:40 | 0:31:47 | |
compelling cases. Thank you very
much for coming on the programme, we | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
appreciate your time, thank you.
Chief comes the Simon Bailey, the | 0:31:51 | 0:31:57 | |
police officer, -- Constable Simon
Bailey, the lead officer for the | 0:31:57 | 0:32:04 | |
operation hydrant. You heard him
warn about the dangers of life live | 0:32:04 | 0:32:11 | |
streaming, and the become please
could be doing more in terms of | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
technology and algorithms to
interrupt and put a block on child | 0:32:14 | 0:32:20 | |
sexual abuse images that are
constantly uploaded to the Internet. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:26 | |
You also heard him saying he thinks
potentially there are 20,000 | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
paedophiles in Britain and that in a
way, the police are overwhelmed by | 0:32:29 | 0:32:34 | |
all the reports but nevertheless
encouragement to anybody who has | 0:32:34 | 0:32:42 | |
experienced child sexual abuse to
report it to the police. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
Still to come: the snow may have
disrupted your travel this | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
morrning but what about people
forced to live in these | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
freezing conditions? | 0:32:51 | 0:32:52 | |
We'll be speaking to a man who's
been homeless for 18 years | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
about how he's been coping. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
Time for a summary of
the latest BBC News. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:07 | |
The European Union's chief
negotiator Michel Barnier will | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
publish the first draft of the EU
exit treaty this morning detailing | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
the terms of the UK's departure. The
draft document is expected to say | 0:33:13 | 0:33:19 | |
the Northern Ireland would have two
follow EU single market rules to | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
avoid a so-called hard border with
checks and barriers and less | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
alternatives are found. Downing
Street has dismissed any prospect of | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
a return to hard border.
The cold weather has intensified | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
overnight bringing more disruption
to parts of the UK. Drivers have | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
been warned to take extra care as
emergency services deal with | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
stranded motorists and crashes.
Hundreds of schools are closed and | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
public transport is widely affected. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
The public's satisfaction
with the NHS has seen a sharp | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
decline over the last year,
with our opinion of GP | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
services at its lowest level
since records began. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
The latest British Social Attitudes
survey of 3000 people | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
across England, Wales and Scotland,
found that almost a third | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
of respondents were
unhappy with the NHS | 0:34:01 | 0:34:02 | |
with prolonged waiting
times being cited as one | 0:34:02 | 0:34:10 | |
of the main concerns. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:11 | |
President Trump's son-in-law
and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
has had his security clearance
at the White House downgraded. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
Having previously had a leading role
in the administration, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
Mr Kushner now won't be able
to view sensitive documents. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
There's speculation his previous
business dealings may be the reason | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
for his change of status. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:30 | |
Two big high street names
are on the brink of collapse | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
with both Toys R Us and Maplin
trying to find buyers. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
The struggling retailers,
two of the UK's best known chains, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
are understood to have put
administrators on stand-by after | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
failing to secure a rescue deal. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:41 | |
Toys R Us employs around 3,000
workers, whilst Maplin has | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
2,500 members of staff. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:52 | |
That's the latest BBC News. Ben
Stokes was named man of the match | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
after hitting 63 for injured either
their six wicket win over New | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
Zealand which levelled the series at
1-1. The all-rounder was playing in | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
his second match after his
suspension, England dismissed the | 0:35:10 | 0:35:17 | |
hosts. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:22 | |
hosts. It was 1964 when Swansea city
last to reach the quarterfinals of | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
the FA Cup. That was the year before
the manager was born but they are | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
through to victory over his old club
Sheffield Wednesday. They will face | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
either Tottenham or watch down next,
their replay is at Wembley tonight, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
62 places between the sides. The gap
in the top of the Scottish | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
permission is down to six point
after Rangers beat St Johnstone 4-1 | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
but leaders Celtic camp away this
evening if they take on -- can pull | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
away this evening if they beat their
rivals. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
Laura Kenny and Jason Kenny are back
in action tonight, they have brought | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
their six-month-old baby with them
to the challenge in the Netherlands. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
Coverage will be across the BBC. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
This morning sees a major step
forward in the negotiations between | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
Britain and the European Union over
Brexit. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
The EU is publishing its first draft
agreement for how things | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
like trade and the movement
of people will work. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
The EU's chief negotiator,
Michel Barnier, will be outlining | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
the proposals later. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:24 | |
Amongst the proposals will be
the preferred option on the future | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
of the Irish border,
and who will ultimately rule | 0:36:27 | 0:36:32 | |
on trade disputes involving
British and EU companies. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
To tell us more about what we can
expect, let's talk to our | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
political guru Norman Smith. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
He will explain it all in plain
English which is one of the many | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
reasons why I love you! Flattery
will get you everywhere! I do mean | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
it. Let's talk about the border,
there is an invisible border between | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
Northern Ireland and the Republic at
the moment. And the EU wants it to | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
remain like that. Yes, the problem
is basically this. At the moment | 0:36:58 | 0:37:04 | |
there is no border because Northern
Island and the EU are altogether, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:10 | |
there doesn't have to be a border,
goods can flow across without any | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
problem. Once we leave the EU, we're
in a different ball game and the | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
conundrum most sites have been
wrestling with is how you avoid | 0:37:18 | 0:37:23 | |
border checks when the UK and the EU
are going to be separate. How do you | 0:37:23 | 0:37:29 | |
avoid having to have customs checks
along the border between Northern | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Ireland and the Republic of Ireland?
The proposal which the EU have come | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
up with, or it seems they're going
to come up with, is saying that | 0:37:36 | 0:37:42 | |
basically, Northern Ireland can
pretty much carry on as is within | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
sort of arrangement where they stick
by existing EU rules when it comes | 0:37:44 | 0:37:52 | |
to Customs and trade, they remain
inside the EU customs union. The | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
problem with that from the British
government's point of view is they | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
believe that would be carving out a
separate deal, almost a separate | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
Brexit steel, for Northern Ireland.
And that, they fear, would threaten | 0:38:04 | 0:38:10 | |
the territorial integrity of the UK.
Northern Ireland would be treated | 0:38:10 | 0:38:15 | |
differently from the rest of the UK
and it would threaten the single | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
market of the United Kingdom because
Northern Ireland would have | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
different trading arrangements and
be bound by the rules of the EU. So | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
the British government are going to
say no, that is simply not | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
acceptable. The danger then from the
EU's point of view is if you're not | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
going to have that kind of
arrangement, then you're going to | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
have to have a much harder, fixed
border, which is exactly what | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
everyone has been trying to avoid
largely because of the peace | 0:38:41 | 0:38:47 | |
process. Because central to
diffusing tensions, hostilities was | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
doing away with any sort of border.
The real fears is that if you | 0:38:51 | 0:38:56 | |
reintroduce a border, never mind the
inconvenience and costs to business, | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
the real fear is you rewind the
clock and go back to all the | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
tensions and hostilities and
difficulties and sectarian splits | 0:39:04 | 0:39:09 | |
that so damaged Northern Ireland and
Ireland in the past. Thank you very | 0:39:09 | 0:39:15 | |
much, Norman. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
Let's talk to Katie Daughen
from the British Irish Chamber | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
of Commerce, which represents
businesses that work | 0:39:20 | 0:39:21 | |
in both countries. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
Colm Gribben, who has lived
and worked on the Irish | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
border for his whole life. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:26 | |
And the pro-Brexit
Conservative MP Nigel Evans. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
Nigel Evans, this is going to be a
problem, what's your solution? It | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
shouldn't be a problem. It's going
to be. Why? You can make something | 0:39:34 | 0:39:39 | |
as difficult as he wants to be but
we really are starting from the | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
wrong point. What we ought to be
looking at is the deal between the | 0:39:41 | 0:39:47 | |
United Kingdom and the European
Union first. This is what Michel | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
Barnier should be focusing on. But
that is not what is happening so | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
let's deal with this. I know it is
not but it should be. But it isn't, | 0:39:54 | 0:40:01 | |
so let's deal... If we get the sort
of frictionless deal we get between | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
the EU and the UK, this sort of
issue that we're talking about in | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
the north and south of Ireland this
appears, so why did we focus on | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
that? Because people are worried.
The European Union are introducing | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
this is a real issue and a real
problem when it shouldn't be. We are | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
starting from the wrong bondage
find. Secondly, what I would say to | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
Michel Barnier -- wrong vantage
point. What I would say to Michel | 0:40:25 | 0:40:31 | |
Barnier is that he knows the British
government doesn't want a hard | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
border between the hard border, the
Irish Taoiseach doesn't want one | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
either so it's not going to happen.
And it should not happen unless of | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
course the European Union foists
that onto the Irish and I would be | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
really interested to see what the
Taoiseach would have to say about | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
that. Because we want to see the
free flow of goods and services as | 0:40:49 | 0:40:56 | |
is happening now. Even though Boris
Johnson in that leaked memo | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
suggested that the government should
focusing on the Irish border | 0:40:59 | 0:41:05 | |
becoming significantly harder? He's
looking at all the options. It's | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
counter the government policy. Of
course it is but he's looking at all | 0:41:09 | 0:41:16 | |
the options. If the European Union
insists there should be a hard | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
border, it's right we should look at
the options. We don't want it, the | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
Irish don't want it and I hope we
should resist Michel Barnier. Nobody | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
wants it so what's the issue? It's
important to understand that what is | 0:41:26 | 0:41:31 | |
being discussed here is illegal
under fitting to commitments that | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
were made in December by the UK
Government and the EU. We would | 0:41:35 | 0:41:41 | |
agree that a trade agreement is the
preferential way of achieving | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
borderless status on the of Ireland.
But measures need to protect the | 0:41:45 | 0:41:57 | |
Good Friday Agreement and all that
entails including the all Ireland | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
economy. We would still like to see
the issue addressed through option a | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
and B, as they are common in
referred to. But the UK Government | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
did make commitments saying that
should those options fail, measures | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
would be put in place to keep
Northern Ireland aligned with | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
Ireland on regulatory issues and in
line with the single market and | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
Customs union. All the draft text
today is doing is giving the legal | 0:42:23 | 0:42:30 | |
underpinning to it. A separate
commitment was made by the UK | 0:42:30 | 0:42:37 | |
Government that should that option
come into play, there would be no | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
Borders put up to Northern Ireland
and the rest of the UK which is | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
getting a bit less discussion. We
would agree that we would want to | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
see a trade agreement come into
place that would suggest this issues | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
and we published eight paper which
suggests that last year. You have | 0:42:49 | 0:42:56 | |
spent your life on the border,
expense of the rest of the UK what | 0:42:56 | 0:43:01 | |
it | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
expense of the rest of the UK what
mean to you is their end up being | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
the border. To be honest with you,
I'm a 46 years of age, I have grown | 0:43:06 | 0:43:12 | |
up in the Times Troubles and since
the ceasefire as well. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:22 | |
the ceasefire as well. Society has
transformed, it was unemployment | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
rates of 30% and more in the 70s and
now it is 3%. I think that is | 0:43:25 | 0:43:33 | |
because of the free trade across the
border. From a purely business point | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
of view, we don't want to see if
changing. It's working quite well | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
the way it is and from our
perspective, to have any sort of | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
physical border there which would
delay the movement of workers and | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
goats, would just be a nightmare to
be honest. -- the movement of | 0:43:48 | 0:43:55 | |
workers and goods. That is the trade
side, what about the peace side? | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
People say if there was a border,
checkpoints, that is a target for | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
dissidents in the future. Of course,
I'm speaking from a business point | 0:44:03 | 0:44:08 | |
of view. I'm not a politician. No,
I'm asking you as a resident of | 0:44:08 | 0:44:14 | |
Northern Ireland. You've lived
through the Troubles and you've | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
lived when there has not been a
border and relative peace, so, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:21 | |
that's... Of course, it's a reality.
Nobody wants to see that. I have | 0:44:21 | 0:44:27 | |
four kids ranging from 19 to ten,
they know nothing but the situation | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
at the minute and that's how I
wanted to remain. It does get | 0:44:31 | 0:44:36 | |
difficult and hard border is
introduced and there's a of any sort | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
of threat, no one wants to see that.
Nigel Evans, what is the difference | 0:44:39 | 0:44:47 | |
between Labour and the Conservative
position on Brexit? Labour have | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
called for a close and cooperative
relationship with the EU on exit, | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
the Conservative have called for a
deeper special religion shipped | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
after Brexit. It's all changed with
the Corbyn speech, saying that they | 0:44:59 | 0:45:06 | |
would leave the customs union and
join customs union which basically | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
hankers after the EU negotiating
trade unions -- handcuffs us to the | 0:45:11 | 0:45:16 | |
EU negotiating trade. We are not
going to be paying billions of | 0:45:16 | 0:45:23 | |
pounds of British taxpayers money
into the European Union to access a | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
market where we have a £70 billion
deficit. It's really simple. People | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
ask for clarity, verities. -- there
it is. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:39 | |
it is. Watched you say about the
civil service saying it giving up a | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
three course meal for a packet of
crisps? It a great sound bite from | 0:45:41 | 0:45:46 | |
the EU loving former mandarin, we
know where his loyalties lie. It | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
doesn't mean it's not true. It isn't
true. You talk about the potential | 0:45:49 | 0:45:56 | |
of trade deals around the world
including the US, you sort Liam Fox | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
talk about that. The IMF has said
that the fastest-growing parts of | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
the world are outside the European
Union. 90% of the growth over the | 0:46:04 | 0:46:09 | |
next 15 years is going to happen in
those countries. These are the | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
countries we want to deal with. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:18 | |
Quick final thought, you were meant
to be going to Burma today with | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
colleagues but you were not granted
a Visa, why? This is the | 0:46:22 | 0:46:27 | |
international aid select committee,
we were not told until last night | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
that the Visas had not come through.
Clearly it is political, it has got | 0:46:29 | 0:46:34 | |
to be. We brought a reporter
critical of the regime in the | 0:46:34 | 0:46:39 | |
country, about the way they are
dealing with the Rohingya and that | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
can be the only reason why they have
denied us the Visas. The British and | 0:46:43 | 0:46:49 | |
gave £100 million worth of aid to
the country but not to the | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
government, I hasten to add. Clearly
it is important that we, as a select | 0:46:52 | 0:46:57 | |
committee, see how the money is
being spent and I think it is | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
appalling that these fees ares have
not been coming forward. Nigel | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
Evans, thank you. Thank you to both
of our guests, thank you for coming | 0:47:04 | 0:47:09 | |
on the programme.
Some breaking news now. Toys "R" Us | 0:47:09 | 0:47:14 | |
has just gone into administration,
putting 3200 jobs at risk. Toys "R" | 0:47:14 | 0:47:20 | |
Us has gone into administration,
3200 jobs are at risk. We will bring | 0:47:20 | 0:47:26 | |
you the reaction to that, of course,
and any news on Maplin during the | 0:47:26 | 0:47:31 | |
course of the morning. Also coming
up... After ten o'clock. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:38 | |
After our | 0:47:38 | 0:47:39 | |
exclusive report earlier this week | 0:47:39 | 0:47:40 | |
about the Pupil Referral Unit
which primary children go | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
to when they are faced
with exclusion from school, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
we'll be speaking to the head
of the ADHD Foundation, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
about what can be done to help
improve the behaviour | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
of our primary school children. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
And specifically he is writing to
the government to ask for much | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
quicker and earlier diagnosis of
children with ADHD. | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
Heavy snowfall has hit
many parts of the UK, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
with the south-east and north-east
of England seeing up to 13 cm of | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
snow and temperatures of minus 12. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
For people living on the street
these conditions can be treacherous. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
In Edinburgh, two rough sleepers
have died this winter. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:17 | |
There is such a thing called
the 'Severe Weather Emergency | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
Protocol' which is activated
in these conditions which means | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
councils offer immediate
shelter to homeless people. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
But is it working? | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
Let's speak to Bryan Gilchrist,
he's 50 and has been | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
homeless for 18 years. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:33 | |
He lives on the streets of London. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:39 | |
And Sally Huxtable and Chris Groves
who say they beg because they can't | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
afford to heat their
rough sleepers flat. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
We will talk to them now. Hello,
thank you very much for coming onto | 0:48:46 | 0:48:51 | |
the programme. Good morning, Brian,
how was last night? It was cold. It | 0:48:51 | 0:49:00 | |
started snowing really heavily at
about two o'clock, I woke up at 6am | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
with an inch of snow over the top of
me. It was pretty cold. I heard that | 0:49:03 | 0:49:09 | |
it was -10, minus 12. It was a
chilly night. Why have you not | 0:49:09 | 0:49:14 | |
benefited from this severe weather
emergency protocol where authorities | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
would get you a roof over your head.
Because it isn't that simple, it is | 0:49:17 | 0:49:22 | |
first come first serve. The one that
I know that does it in Westminster, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:31 | |
Connections, they come around
maybe... Ten or 11 o'clock at night. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:36 | |
They will say, do you want to go
they don't say that they've got a | 0:49:36 | 0:49:43 | |
place for you, they say that they
will see if they can get a place, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
they don't guarantee anywhere. It
isn't as simple as it sounds. But | 0:49:46 | 0:49:51 | |
even someone saying that they will
see what they can do, isn't it | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
better than sleeping outside of the
London Palladium? Yes, but a lot of | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
people don't want to go into the
hostels. Because of violence, drugs, | 0:49:58 | 0:50:06 | |
drink, whatever. People don't want
to go there. What would you want to | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
do? Me, I don't like hostels. I
don't like them. I've had pretty bad | 0:50:10 | 0:50:17 | |
experiences in them before. Me, I
would be happy with a place on | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
wearing. -- on my own. It's a
waiting game. How do you keep warm | 0:50:21 | 0:50:30 | |
in these conditions? At the moment,
I cannot carry everything I need to | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
keep warm. I carry the basics. I
have a couple of sleeping bags, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:40 | |
blankets, two or three jackets,
jumpers, had, scarves, and I've got | 0:50:40 | 0:50:46 | |
my bed to bundle them all on. I go
to sleep and hope to wake up in the | 0:50:46 | 0:50:51 | |
morning. You hope you wake up in the
morning? Yes. And as people go by, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:57 | |
what do they do? They keep going by.
Now and again people ask if you are | 0:50:57 | 0:51:02 | |
OK, they get you a coffee or
something to eat. But there are not | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
as many now as they used to be. I
think it is because there are a lot | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
more beggars on the streets now than
they used to be. Not as many people | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
stop because there are more beggars?
That's right. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:20 | |
That's right. Sally and Chris, thank
you for coming on the programme. You | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
are no longer living on the streets.
How long were you? I was on the | 0:51:23 | 0:51:28 | |
streets for 11 years. That was
before I met Sally. I had been on | 0:51:28 | 0:51:33 | |
the streets for three years. Now you
have this so-called rough sleepers | 0:51:33 | 0:51:38 | |
flat, what does that mean? Basically
we were put into a hostel first. The | 0:51:38 | 0:51:45 | |
outreach team came round before
anything would happen, they had to | 0:51:45 | 0:51:50 | |
see you and they had to see you
three times. They had to see you | 0:51:50 | 0:51:57 | |
sleeping rough three times. And
often they don't come back to see if | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
you are in the same place. Or where
you are. It could be once a month | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
they come, or if you are not there
the night that they come, that's it. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:12 | |
It doesn't count. If they do see you
three times, what is supposed to | 0:52:12 | 0:52:18 | |
kick in? What is supposed to
happen... Your name is put down and | 0:52:18 | 0:52:23 | |
you wait for a room. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:32 | |
you wait for a room. If you've never
been to London before. I didn't want | 0:52:32 | 0:52:37 | |
Sally being away from me in a
hostel, she has had bad experiences | 0:52:37 | 0:52:43 | |
in the past. With a load of men that
she doesn't know. You have a flat | 0:52:43 | 0:52:48 | |
now. But you say that you cannot
afford to heat it. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:58 | |
afford to heat it. The Electric
is... It's a rough sleepers flat. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
The landlord keeps one flat with
reduced rent, which housing benefit | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
will pay. The only problem is that
we have to pay a top up on top of | 0:53:05 | 0:53:11 | |
that. The windows are the old wooden
ones. It is actually warmer outside | 0:53:11 | 0:53:18 | |
then it is in the flat at the
moment. Really? Bryan, have you been | 0:53:18 | 0:53:26 | |
around? Yes. So you will sweep round
every morning to check that those | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
who have slept on the streets is all
right. I do ask him to come and | 0:53:30 | 0:53:35 | |
stay, but it is warmer outside.
Trying to get the money to put the | 0:53:35 | 0:53:41 | |
electric on to heat the flat, it is
old storage heaters and it is | 0:53:41 | 0:53:47 | |
just... Really expensive? It eats
your money. Basically it's when any | 0:53:47 | 0:53:53 | |
of us get up in the morning. As soon
as we are up, we go around and make | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
sure everyone is OK. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:03 | |
sure everyone is OK. And we try to
get money. And when you say that, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
what you mean? The same as when we
were on the street really. Begging. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:11 | |
Food. To heat the flat, even for a
couple of days, you know? Is there | 0:54:11 | 0:54:22 | |
any possibility that you might be
able to get paid work one day? I'd | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
love to. We would love to. But over
the last few years, I've had chronic | 0:54:26 | 0:54:32 | |
back pain, which in this weather
isn't very nice, you know? Which is | 0:54:32 | 0:54:42 | |
why you receive PIP, don't you? Yes,
I receive that once a month. But | 0:54:42 | 0:54:47 | |
they knocked me off ESA, which I
cannot understand. If I am receiving | 0:54:47 | 0:54:56 | |
PIP, surely I should be able to
receive employment support | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
allowance? They are changing all of
the benefits now. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:07 | |
the benefits now. It's fair enough
if you have somewhere to live and | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
everything else is paid for, but
when you have a lifestyle like ours, | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
which is not the normal lifestyle,
then it is hard to get help from | 0:55:14 | 0:55:19 | |
other people. We are basically
looked over. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:28 | |
looked over. We sat on the street,
that'll be fine, they will wake up | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
in the morning. We don't know where
we are going to. It is like you are | 0:55:31 | 0:55:36 | |
invisible. Honestly, it's like nifty
sees you. Nobody. Nobody cares, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:43 | |
whatever. I have had people step on
me or fall over me, they have not | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
been looking. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:55 | |
been looking. I know people have
their own lives to lead, but I don't | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
understand... Why do you think that
is, do you think people don't know | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
what to say or they are embarrassed?
They don't think we are a member of | 0:56:02 | 0:56:08 | |
society any more. Not everybody
thinks that. There are a lot of | 0:56:08 | 0:56:13 | |
bogus beggars. How do you know a
real one from the bogus one? That | 0:56:13 | 0:56:20 | |
was the story in Cambridgeshire this
week where police said that the | 0:56:20 | 0:56:25 | |
beggars were fake, scammers
effectively. We are not all like | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
that. How do you tell the
difference? You are from Edinburgh, | 0:56:28 | 0:56:34 | |
why did you come to London? If I
were still in Edinburgh, I would be | 0:56:34 | 0:56:38 | |
dead. Why do you say that? I was a
really heavy drinker so I came here | 0:56:38 | 0:56:43 | |
to get away from it. As it worked?
Yes. And you don't drink any more? I | 0:56:43 | 0:56:51 | |
haven't had a drink for 15 months.
How does it make you feel? Good, if | 0:56:51 | 0:56:56 | |
I was still in Edinburgh I would be
dead now. I want to thank you all | 0:56:56 | 0:57:01 | |
very much for coming onto the
programme, telling people what it is | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
really like. It isn't easy. It isn't
easy, that's right. Thank you. At | 0:57:05 | 0:57:13 | |
ten o'clock we will bring you the
latest news and sport. And before | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
that we will bring you the weather.
Do | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
tell us all about it, Carol. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:22 | |
tell us all about it, Carol. Thank
you. There is a lot of snow in the | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
forecast today. The Met Office has a
and the weather warning out again. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:34 | |
Across central Scotland, north-east
England and Cumbria. We could see a | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
further 10-15 centimetres of snow
fall. This weather warning is valid | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
until tomorrow evening at 6pm. In
this area, there is a lot of loans | 0:57:41 | 0:57:46 | |
snow. In northern England we have 21
centimetres of lying snow. -- low | 0:57:46 | 0:57:54 | |
lying snow. In Aberdeenshire we have
nine centimetres. There is also the | 0:57:54 | 0:57:59 | |
risk of ice today, if you are
travelling take extra care. Snow | 0:57:59 | 0:58:03 | |
showers continue to pack in. Where
we have the samba weather warning. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:07 | |
We had a warning in the south-east
which is about to expire. It will | 0:58:07 | 0:58:11 | |
dry up in the south-east as the wind
moves in. There are snow shovels | 0:58:11 | 0:58:20 | |
across the far south-west.
Temperature wise, regardless of what | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
it says, freezing temperatures
across the UK. With wind chill, | 0:58:23 | 0:58:31 | |
looking at -11 degrees. That is how
it feels against your skin. The snow | 0:58:31 | 0:58:36 | |
will be blowing and drifting because
of strong winds, that will continue | 0:58:36 | 0:58:40 | |
this evening and overnight. More
snow piling in with that Amber | 0:58:40 | 0:58:44 | |
weather warning. There will be a lot
of dry weather between, a cold night | 0:58:44 | 0:58:51 | |
as well. Temperature is even lower
than this in the countryside and | 0:58:51 | 0:58:55 | |
where we do have lying snow.
Tomorrow, as well as our existing | 0:58:55 | 0:59:00 | |
web were quicker weather warning
from the Met Office, we have another | 0:59:00 | 0:59:04 | |
across south-west England and Wales.
Storm Emma comes up from the near | 0:59:04 | 0:59:10 | |
continent, there is a lot of
moisture in this storm and as it | 0:59:10 | 0:59:12 | |
engages with the cold across our
shores, it readily turns to snow. | 0:59:12 | 0:59:16 | |
You can see from the eyes of bars
that it will be windy, we have | 0:59:16 | 0:59:20 | |
drifting snow and the potential for
blizzards. If it moves further west | 0:59:20 | 0:59:27 | |
and east it will change the snow
distribution, this is what we have | 0:59:27 | 0:59:31 | |
at the moment. It could clip London
and it is heading in the direction | 0:59:31 | 0:59:37 | |
of Northern Ireland. Still more snow
to come for you in these areas, and | 0:59:37 | 0:59:43 | |
some dry and bright conditions
between. Temperatures about | 0:59:43 | 0:59:50 | |
freezing, and when you add on the
significant wind-chill, it will feel | 0:59:50 | 0:59:54 | |
a lot colder. -11 in this central
suede. Finally, on Friday, connected | 0:59:54 | 1:00:01 | |
to Emma, this system produces more
snow, pushing northwards. Snow | 1:00:01 | 1:00:06 | |
showers in the north, dry weather
between but still very cold. | 1:00:06 | 1:00:14 | |
Hello, it's ten o'clock. | 1:00:14 | 1:00:15 | |
I'm Victoria Derbyshire. | 1:00:15 | 1:00:16 | |
The Beast from the East hits home. | 1:00:16 | 1:00:21 | |
Drivers have been warned to take
extra care, hundreds of schools | 1:00:21 | 1:00:24 | |
are closed and public transport
is widely affected. | 1:00:24 | 1:00:26 | |
With temperatures falling as low
as minus 12, some councils | 1:00:26 | 1:00:28 | |
are offering emergency acommodation
to people sleeping on the streets. | 1:00:28 | 1:00:31 | |
We've been talking to one rough
sleeper about dealing | 1:00:31 | 1:00:33 | |
with the freezing temperatures. | 1:00:33 | 1:00:38 | |
Started snowing around two o'clock
really heavily, I woke up at six | 1:00:39 | 1:00:43 | |
with an inch of snow on top of me,
pretty cold. I had heard it was | 1:00:43 | 1:00:50 | |
minus 12. It was a chilly night. | 1:00:50 | 1:00:52 | |
A key document detailing
the proposed terms of the UK's | 1:00:52 | 1:00:54 | |
departure from the EU
is being published this morning. | 1:00:54 | 1:00:57 | |
It says Northern Ireland will have
to follow the rules of the EU's | 1:00:57 | 1:01:00 | |
single market if no one can come up
with a plan to avoid | 1:01:00 | 1:01:03 | |
a hard border between it
and the republic of Ireland. | 1:01:03 | 1:01:08 | |
What I would say to Michel Barnier
is that he knows that the British | 1:01:08 | 1:01:13 | |
government doesn't want a hard
border, between Northern Ireland and | 1:01:13 | 1:01:18 | |
Ireland, the Irish Taoiseach doesn't
want that either, so that's not | 1:01:18 | 1:01:22 | |
going to happen. And it shouldn't
happen. | 1:01:22 | 1:01:28 | |
Also, Meghan Markle, Prince Harry
and the Duke and Duchess of | 1:01:28 | 1:01:31 | |
Cambridge will be making their first
joint public appearance and we will | 1:01:31 | 1:01:34 | |
bring you live coverage. | 1:01:34 | 1:01:37 | |
Good morning, it's 10am. | 1:01:40 | 1:01:41 | |
Here's Joanna Gosling
in the BBC Newsroom | 1:01:41 | 1:01:42 | |
with a summary of todays news. | 1:01:42 | 1:01:44 | |
The European Union's Chief
negotiator Michel Barnier | 1:01:44 | 1:01:45 | |
will publish the first draft
of the EU's Brexit Treaty this | 1:01:45 | 1:01:49 | |
morning, detailing the terms
of the UK's departure. | 1:01:49 | 1:01:53 | |
The draft document is expected
to say Northern Ireland would have | 1:01:53 | 1:01:56 | |
to follow EU single market rules
to avoid a so-called "hard border" | 1:01:56 | 1:01:59 | |
with checks and barriers,
unless alternatives are found. | 1:01:59 | 1:02:03 | |
Downing Street has
dismissed any prospect | 1:02:03 | 1:02:05 | |
of a return to a hard border. | 1:02:05 | 1:02:12 | |
Yesterday a leaked letter from Boris
Johnson appeared to suggest there | 1:02:12 | 1:02:17 | |
could be customs checks in the
future, she has been speaking in the | 1:02:17 | 1:02:21 | |
last few minutes. The issue of the
Northern Ireland border is being | 1:02:21 | 1:02:24 | |
used politically to try and keep the
UK into the customs union, and | 1:02:24 | 1:02:31 | |
effectively be single market, so we
can't really leave the EU, that's | 1:02:31 | 1:02:34 | |
what's going on. But the letter says
is that actually there are very good | 1:02:34 | 1:02:39 | |
solutions that you could put in
place that would obviate or prevent | 1:02:39 | 1:02:44 | |
any kind of hard border, but would
allow goods, people, people can't | 1:02:44 | 1:02:51 | |
move totally freely because it's a
common travel area, but allow goods | 1:02:51 | 1:02:54 | |
to leave and move freely. | 1:02:54 | 1:02:58 | |
The cold weather has
intensified overnight | 1:02:58 | 1:02:59 | |
bringing more disruption to parts
of the UK. | 1:02:59 | 1:03:01 | |
Drivers have been warned to take
extra care as emergency | 1:03:01 | 1:03:03 | |
services deal with stranded
motorists and crashes. | 1:03:03 | 1:03:05 | |
Hundreds of schools are closed
and public transport | 1:03:05 | 1:03:07 | |
is widely affected. | 1:03:07 | 1:03:14 | |
It's been announced that the
retailer Toys R Us has gone into | 1:03:14 | 1:03:19 | |
administration. It puts 3200 jobs at
risk but it's understood that stores | 1:03:19 | 1:03:27 | |
will continue to trade. They had
failed to secure a buyer. | 1:03:27 | 1:03:31 | |
The public's satisfaction
with the NHS has seen a sharp | 1:03:31 | 1:03:34 | |
decline over the last year,
with our opinion of GP | 1:03:34 | 1:03:36 | |
services at its lowest level
since records began. | 1:03:36 | 1:03:38 | |
The latest British Social Attitudes
survey of 3000 people | 1:03:38 | 1:03:40 | |
across England, Wales and Scotland,
found that almost a third | 1:03:40 | 1:03:42 | |
of respondents were
unhappy with the NHS | 1:03:42 | 1:03:45 | |
with prolonged waiting
times being cited as one | 1:03:45 | 1:03:48 | |
of the main concerns. | 1:03:48 | 1:03:51 | |
President Trump's son-in-law
and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, | 1:03:51 | 1:03:53 | |
has had his security clearance
at the White House downgraded. | 1:03:53 | 1:03:57 | |
Having previously had a leading role
in the administration, | 1:03:57 | 1:03:59 | |
Mr Kushner now won't be able
to view sensitive documents. | 1:03:59 | 1:04:02 | |
There's speculation his previous
business dealings may be the reason | 1:04:02 | 1:04:05 | |
for his change of status. | 1:04:05 | 1:04:09 | |
A BBC charity says it has sacked six
people for sexual harassment | 1:04:09 | 1:04:12 | |
or for watching pornography
on work computers. | 1:04:12 | 1:04:15 | |
BBC Media Action said the incidents
happened overseas in the past ten | 1:04:15 | 1:04:19 | |
years and those sacked
were all foreign nationals. | 1:04:19 | 1:04:22 | |
It comes as international charities
face closer scrutiny | 1:04:22 | 1:04:26 | |
following claims of sexual
misconduct by Oxfam staff in Haiti. | 1:04:26 | 1:04:33 | |
A supermarket in Amsterdam is
opening what it says is the world's | 1:04:33 | 1:04:35 | |
first plastic-free aisle. | 1:04:35 | 1:04:37 | |
An environmental campaign group
helped replace plastic packaging | 1:04:37 | 1:04:39 | |
with biodegradable materials
on around 700 products. | 1:04:39 | 1:04:43 | |
The company says it hopes to expand
the trial to all its 75 stores | 1:04:43 | 1:04:46 | |
by the end of the year. | 1:04:46 | 1:04:50 | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC
News, more at 10.30am. | 1:04:50 | 1:04:56 | |
Later this hour, Prince William,
the Duchess of Cambridge, | 1:04:56 | 1:04:57 | |
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle
will all appear for their first | 1:04:57 | 1:05:00 | |
royal engagement together. | 1:05:00 | 1:05:01 | |
We'll bring that to you live. | 1:05:01 | 1:05:04 | |
Also, we want your experience
of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity | 1:05:04 | 1:05:08 | |
Disorder after the ADHD Foundation
tells this programme it's calling | 1:05:08 | 1:05:10 | |
on the Government to take action
on delays in diagnosing | 1:05:10 | 1:05:13 | |
the condition in children. | 1:05:13 | 1:05:20 | |
Let me read you this text, I was
asking how long it took to be | 1:05:21 | 1:05:26 | |
diagnosed. It took me until I was 37
until I was diagnosed, all my life I | 1:05:26 | 1:05:32 | |
had suffered anxiety and for being,
as well as being Dipsy. I had to | 1:05:32 | 1:05:35 | |
really push but I got a result and
I'm now on a medication that allowed | 1:05:35 | 1:05:41 | |
me to have my life back and I'm
going back to college, finally. Alan | 1:05:41 | 1:05:45 | |
says, my son is 22, he has a
diagnosis of ADHD, he was failed by | 1:05:45 | 1:05:52 | |
the education system, he's been 27
systems -- to seven different | 1:05:52 | 1:05:58 | |
places. At ten, he went to a school
for pregnant teenage mums because | 1:05:58 | 1:06:02 | |
there was no one else for his for
him to go. I have another text here, | 1:06:02 | 1:06:08 | |
people think that ADHD is an excuse
for bad behaviour but that is not | 1:06:08 | 1:06:14 | |
true. They are very forgetful, they
have difficulty following | 1:06:14 | 1:06:19 | |
instructions and avoid tasks that
make them feel comfortable. | 1:06:19 | 1:06:24 | |
Typically they have no self-esteem
or self belief and our actions and | 1:06:24 | 1:06:28 | |
impulsive. We would talk more about
ADHD in the next half an hour. Get | 1:06:28 | 1:06:31 | |
in touch, very welcome, I'm very
grateful for any pertinent | 1:06:31 | 1:06:39 | |
experiences, you're the expert in
areas like this. Send us an e-mail | 1:06:39 | 1:06:43 | |
or message as on Twitter. | 1:06:43 | 1:06:48 | |
Ben Stokes looks to have put
all the controversy behind him - | 1:06:48 | 1:06:51 | |
he was man of the match in England's
six-wicket victory over New Zealand | 1:06:51 | 1:06:54 | |
in their second one-dayer. | 1:06:54 | 1:06:56 | |
He'd already taken a couple
of wickets when he came | 1:06:56 | 1:06:58 | |
to the crease and quickly set
about chasing their target of 244. | 1:06:58 | 1:07:01 | |
Stokes top-scored with
an unbeaten 63, as Jos Buttler | 1:07:01 | 1:07:03 | |
hit the winning runs. | 1:07:03 | 1:07:10 | |
But how about this for a catch? | 1:07:10 | 1:07:13 | |
A fine one-handed take
by a man in the crowd - | 1:07:13 | 1:07:18 | |
and you can understand his wild
celebrations because that won him | 1:07:18 | 1:07:20 | |
a prize of 50,000 NZ dollars -
that's about £26,000. | 1:07:20 | 1:07:26 | |
Free tea and coffee was dished
out to warm up the fans | 1:07:26 | 1:07:29 | |
at the Liberty Stadium last night
as Swansea reached | 1:07:29 | 1:07:31 | |
the quarterfinals of the FA Cup
for the first time in 54 years. | 1:07:31 | 1:07:34 | |
They beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-0,
Nathan Dyer sending this effort | 1:07:34 | 1:07:39 | |
straight through the keeper's
legs for their second. | 1:07:39 | 1:07:41 | |
Tottenham or Rochdale
await in the next round, | 1:07:41 | 1:07:45 | |
their replay is at Wembley tonight. | 1:07:45 | 1:07:48 | |
The gap at the top of
the Scottish Premiership | 1:07:48 | 1:07:50 | |
is down to six points,
after second-placed Rangers | 1:07:50 | 1:07:53 | |
beat St Johnstone 4-1,
Alfredo Morelos rounding things off. | 1:07:53 | 1:07:56 | |
Leaders Celtic can pull away
again tonight though - | 1:07:56 | 1:08:00 | |
they play Dundee. | 1:08:00 | 1:08:04 | |
That match has just been postponed
because of weather. Other fixtures | 1:08:04 | 1:08:09 | |
in the Scottish premiership have
also been postponed. | 1:08:09 | 1:08:17 | |
Greg Rutherford has pulled out of
the world indoor champion Joe 's | 1:08:18 | 1:08:20 | |
which starts on Friday. He has
already withdrawn from the man of | 1:08:20 | 1:08:26 | |
games in April. He missed the World
Championships last year within ankle | 1:08:26 | 1:08:32 | |
injury and he has also had groin
surgery. He will focus on returning | 1:08:32 | 1:08:37 | |
to full fitness to defend his
European title in August. | 1:08:37 | 1:08:41 | |
There's been a fair bit
of controversy over paralympic | 1:08:41 | 1:08:44 | |
classifications recently
and the British Paralympic | 1:08:44 | 1:08:45 | |
Association has
published new guidance. | 1:08:45 | 1:08:46 | |
The UK Athlete Classification Code
places athletes' rights | 1:08:46 | 1:08:48 | |
and responsibilities at the heart
of the process, as they bid to | 1:08:48 | 1:08:51 | |
prevent manipulation of the system. | 1:08:51 | 1:08:57 | |
I think it's about absolutely
understanding who was responsible | 1:08:57 | 1:09:00 | |
for what, and particularly, how can
we better educate the athletes, the | 1:09:00 | 1:09:06 | |
support personnel, everyone involved
in the delivery of Paralympic sport, | 1:09:06 | 1:09:09 | |
to make sure they understand how the
process works and more importantly | 1:09:09 | 1:09:12 | |
at a national level, what their
response abilities are. Then it | 1:09:12 | 1:09:15 | |
comes to it, there will be a better
understanding of that so that anyone | 1:09:15 | 1:09:20 | |
who has concerned can base that on
at genuine concern rather than | 1:09:20 | 1:09:26 | |
misunderstandings. | 1:09:26 | 1:09:27 | |
Cyclists Laura and Jason Kenny
are back competing today, | 1:09:27 | 1:09:29 | |
hopefully having had a good night's
sleep because they've | 1:09:29 | 1:09:31 | |
taken their six month old baby
Albie along with them | 1:09:31 | 1:09:34 | |
to the Track Cycling World
Championships in the Netherlands. | 1:09:34 | 1:09:36 | |
in a city apartment,
along with the grandparents who'll | 1:09:36 | 1:09:38 | |
be helping out with childcare. | 1:09:38 | 1:09:39 | |
The Kennys are two of seven Olympic
champions in the British team. | 1:09:39 | 1:09:47 | |
Headlines in half an hour.
Pete wanted to say this, it's | 1:09:48 | 1:09:56 | |
heartbreaking watching the three
people who have been on the streets. | 1:09:56 | 1:10:00 | |
And, says, no one should be
homeless, it's not just the home | 1:10:00 | 1:10:04 | |
they need but help to get benefits
and food. The richer you are, the | 1:10:04 | 1:10:09 | |
more they think they are ability --
invisible. I always give money, no | 1:10:09 | 1:10:17 | |
one should be on the streets.
Toys R Us has gone into | 1:10:17 | 1:10:24 | |
administration, does that mean it
has gone bust? Yes, administration | 1:10:24 | 1:10:27 | |
technical language meaning that the
efforts to save it as a company has | 1:10:27 | 1:10:33 | |
failed. They will carry on trading
for well, they will see if they can | 1:10:33 | 1:10:39 | |
sell off bits of it, but they failed
the whole thing will wind down and | 1:10:39 | 1:10:43 | |
the stores will close. That is
crushingly disappointing for staff. | 1:10:43 | 1:10:48 | |
Before Christmas, a deal was done
which meant that they got some rents | 1:10:48 | 1:10:52 | |
down in its shops, they post some
shops and that hasn't worked. As far | 1:10:52 | 1:10:59 | |
as customers is not today, stores
will carry on trading, you can go in | 1:10:59 | 1:11:04 | |
and buy things. Anyone who has been
there recently will see that the | 1:11:04 | 1:11:08 | |
shares are quite there but there are
a lot of discounts, so there's a | 1:11:08 | 1:11:15 | |
reason to go in. What will happen to
the 3200 staff members and why has | 1:11:15 | 1:11:19 | |
it gone bust? It's a very bleak
outlook for the staff. The | 1:11:19 | 1:11:24 | |
administrators, that's the
accountants who are now in charge, | 1:11:24 | 1:11:28 | |
saying it trades on for the moment
while they see what they can do. But | 1:11:28 | 1:11:32 | |
they've given of March 11 where
people had put down deposits, they | 1:11:32 | 1:11:38 | |
will still be valid and they will be
a will to pick up their goods. | 1:11:38 | 1:11:41 | |
That's only two weekends away.
People will look at that date at | 1:11:41 | 1:11:46 | |
perhaps the beginning of the end if
they cannot sell any of the stores. | 1:11:46 | 1:11:53 | |
For the staff, the danger is they
lose their jobs, they fall back for | 1:11:53 | 1:12:00 | |
statutory redundancy pay. That might
mean a few thousand pounds for | 1:12:00 | 1:12:03 | |
someone who has worked there a long
time, and that's not a replacement | 1:12:03 | 1:12:07 | |
for the job they had. For customers,
vouchers and gift cards are still | 1:12:07 | 1:12:12 | |
valid for the moment, there's a
March 11 cut off, if you want to use | 1:12:12 | 1:12:15 | |
anything, use it by them. Why has it
happened? They had a lot of debt to | 1:12:15 | 1:12:21 | |
pay off, they had a pension scheme
which was expensive that they had to | 1:12:21 | 1:12:24 | |
put money into. And people just were
not shopping in such great numbers | 1:12:24 | 1:12:30 | |
there. People were not prepared to
make that drive out of town just to | 1:12:30 | 1:12:34 | |
buy toys at their prices when they
might get them off the Internet or | 1:12:34 | 1:12:37 | |
get them from the big supermarkets.
Thank you. | 1:12:37 | 1:12:41 | |
This week we've had exclusive access
to the work going on at Hawkswood | 1:12:41 | 1:12:44 | |
Primary Pupil Referral Unit
in Northeast London. | 1:12:44 | 1:12:45 | |
It's the place children as young
as four in the borough | 1:12:45 | 1:12:48 | |
of Waltham Forest, are sent
when they're in danger | 1:12:48 | 1:12:51 | |
of being excluded from
their mainstream school. | 1:12:51 | 1:12:54 | |
We've been given a unique insight
into how teachers there deal | 1:12:54 | 1:12:59 | |
with outbursts and even
violence from pupils. | 1:12:59 | 1:13:01 | |
We asked the Head Teacher
at Hawkswood, Marie Gentles, | 1:13:01 | 1:13:05 | |
to explain some of the many
techniques they use. | 1:13:05 | 1:13:11 | |
You didn't listen straightaway. | 1:13:11 | 1:13:12 | |
You weren't keeping yourself
safe or your friends. | 1:13:12 | 1:13:14 | |
So that's one minute gone. | 1:13:14 | 1:13:18 | |
What a shame. | 1:13:18 | 1:13:21 | |
We need to understand children's
behaviour as communication. | 1:13:30 | 1:13:32 | |
So if the child is acting
out in a certain way, | 1:13:32 | 1:13:35 | |
we need to look at -
what are the communicating to us? | 1:13:35 | 1:13:38 | |
What's the trigger? | 1:13:38 | 1:13:39 | |
What are they trying to tell us? | 1:13:39 | 1:13:40 | |
Oh, not quite. | 1:13:40 | 1:13:41 | |
Archie? | 1:13:41 | 1:13:42 | |
Numbers. | 1:13:42 | 1:13:44 | |
Oh, not quite! | 1:13:44 | 1:13:45 | |
Oh, I'm not looking
for a shouting out. | 1:13:45 | 1:13:46 | |
I'm looking for people with their
hand up nicely, like Kayden. | 1:13:46 | 1:13:49 | |
It's... | 1:13:49 | 1:13:50 | |
Handwriting! | 1:13:50 | 1:13:51 | |
Yes, another high ten. | 1:13:51 | 1:13:52 | |
That's ten, and ten, and ten. | 1:13:52 | 1:13:54 | |
That's 30 for me this morning. | 1:13:54 | 1:13:55 | |
Right, let's see who is ready. | 1:13:55 | 1:13:57 | |
The most important thing,
we think, is around forming | 1:13:57 | 1:13:59 | |
attachments with the children. | 1:13:59 | 1:14:00 | |
So you've got to have an attachment
with the child in order | 1:14:00 | 1:14:03 | |
for them to respond to you. | 1:14:03 | 1:14:04 | |
What a smashing start. | 1:14:04 | 1:14:05 | |
Shall we do hand over hand together? | 1:14:05 | 1:14:07 | |
So you can see what it feels
like to write letters. | 1:14:07 | 1:14:09 | |
And the way you build up attachment
is via the relationship | 1:14:09 | 1:14:12 | |
that you have with them,
which comes via putting | 1:14:12 | 1:14:15 | |
in consistent, firm
but fair boundaries. | 1:14:15 | 1:14:20 | |
Consistency is massive
with our children. | 1:14:20 | 1:14:23 | |
Right, I don't like the way you're
speaking to your friends. | 1:14:23 | 1:14:28 | |
And you still aren't... | 1:14:28 | 1:14:29 | |
They stole something! | 1:14:29 | 1:14:30 | |
And you still aren't
keeping your hands to yourself. | 1:14:30 | 1:14:33 | |
And I told you that if you didn't
keep your hands to yourself... | 1:14:33 | 1:14:36 | |
I did. | 1:14:36 | 1:14:37 | |
I didn't touch him. | 1:14:37 | 1:14:38 | |
..then you would be leaving
and sitting on the time out chair. | 1:14:38 | 1:14:41 | |
Once they realise that if we say
something is going to happen | 1:14:41 | 1:14:43 | |
on every single occasion,
then they start to feel, "OK, | 1:14:43 | 1:14:47 | |
this person means what they say." | 1:14:47 | 1:14:50 | |
I need you to make your way over
to the time out chair. | 1:14:50 | 1:14:53 | |
Five, four, three, two,... | 1:14:53 | 1:14:57 | |
One minute, Jamal. | 1:14:57 | 1:14:58 | |
One. | 1:14:58 | 1:15:00 | |
OK, let's go to the time out chair. | 1:15:00 | 1:15:02 | |
SHE CRIES. | 1:15:02 | 1:15:10 | |
You're sitting here because... | 1:15:11 | 1:15:13 | |
I didn't touch him! | 1:15:13 | 1:15:17 | |
They also start to feel quite safe
within those boundaries | 1:15:17 | 1:15:19 | |
and those constraints. | 1:15:19 | 1:15:26 | |
You've got all the stickers
and you got all the way there, | 1:15:27 | 1:15:30 | |
so you may choose something
from the prize box. | 1:15:30 | 1:15:32 | |
I am so proud of your behaviour
from the last few weeks. | 1:15:32 | 1:15:36 | |
We are very fair with the children,
so they know that if they've done | 1:15:36 | 1:15:39 | |
something really well,
they will get the praise | 1:15:39 | 1:15:41 | |
and the recognition and all
of those things as well, | 1:15:41 | 1:15:44 | |
and all the attention heaped on. | 1:15:44 | 1:15:46 | |
A little nerf gun! | 1:15:46 | 1:15:48 | |
Oh, wow. | 1:15:48 | 1:15:49 | |
That would be a cool
prize, wouldn't it? | 1:15:49 | 1:15:51 | |
Archie, I'm waiting. | 1:15:51 | 1:15:55 | |
If a child is sat in front
of you and you are talking | 1:15:55 | 1:15:59 | |
to them from behind,
that doesn't work. | 1:15:59 | 1:16:01 | |
When I am speaking, he mustn't be
speaking to somebody else. | 1:16:01 | 1:16:04 | |
So you need to make sure that you've
got eye contact with the Child, | 1:16:04 | 1:16:08 | |
they don't feel threatened
in any way. | 1:16:08 | 1:16:11 | |
If you interrupt me again, Kayden,
you are going to go in the time out | 1:16:11 | 1:16:13 | |
chair to think about it. | 1:16:13 | 1:16:15 | |
I don't want that. | 1:16:15 | 1:16:16 | |
If you think about your tone
of voice and your body stance, | 1:16:16 | 1:16:19 | |
that in itself can be
a de-escalation technique. | 1:16:19 | 1:16:20 | |
But you need to make
a good choice and not | 1:16:20 | 1:16:25 | |
interrupt when I am speaking. | 1:16:25 | 1:16:26 | |
Do you understand? | 1:16:26 | 1:16:27 | |
Good boy. | 1:16:27 | 1:16:29 | |
Unless you're ready,
we can't wait for you to join us. | 1:16:29 | 1:16:33 | |
Now, I need you to open
your legs a little bit | 1:16:33 | 1:16:36 | |
and move your arms away. | 1:16:36 | 1:16:37 | |
Have you done this before? | 1:16:37 | 1:16:38 | |
I can tell. | 1:16:38 | 1:16:39 | |
You are an expert already. | 1:16:39 | 1:16:41 | |
Humour is another one which works
really well with the children, | 1:16:41 | 1:16:45 | |
because actually, they need to see
you and understand you on a human | 1:16:45 | 1:16:48 | |
level, not just this authoritative
figure within a school. | 1:16:48 | 1:16:52 | |
Let's get started. | 1:16:52 | 1:16:56 | |
Oh, careful we don't tickle him. | 1:16:56 | 1:17:02 | |
Tickle, tickle, tickle! | 1:17:02 | 1:17:05 | |
HE LAUGHS. | 1:17:05 | 1:17:06 | |
We want him as still as possible. | 1:17:06 | 1:17:09 | |
We are human beings like they are,
so they're very powerful | 1:17:09 | 1:17:11 | |
techniques as well. | 1:17:11 | 1:17:12 | |
Under his armpit. | 1:17:12 | 1:17:18 | |
Well done, Nicholas. | 1:17:18 | 1:17:20 | |
I'm going to start the time. | 1:17:20 | 1:17:23 | |
Keep your chair still,
otherwise it's unsafe. | 1:17:23 | 1:17:26 | |
That's not safe. | 1:17:26 | 1:17:28 | |
We sometimes resort
to positive handling, | 1:17:28 | 1:17:35 | |
to hold the child in a safe way,
to keep them and others | 1:17:35 | 1:17:38 | |
around them safe. | 1:17:38 | 1:17:39 | |
It is a last resort,
but we've all been trained | 1:17:39 | 1:17:42 | |
in positive handling. | 1:17:42 | 1:17:43 | |
We have regular training,
and if it is used appropriately, | 1:17:43 | 1:17:45 | |
it is extremely effective. | 1:17:45 | 1:17:46 | |
And, actually, it sends
the message across to the child | 1:17:46 | 1:17:49 | |
An | 1:17:49 | 1:17:49 | |
that we can keep you safe. | 1:17:49 | 1:17:52 | |
It's OK, yes, we know those
behaviours are a really big | 1:17:52 | 1:17:55 | |
and they look really scary,
but actually we can look after you. | 1:17:55 | 1:17:58 | |
We can keep you emotionally
and physically safe. | 1:17:58 | 1:18:03 | |
We're going to wash your
hands and we can go | 1:18:03 | 1:18:06 | |
and have our special
Christmas lunch. | 1:18:06 | 1:18:07 | |
OK? | 1:18:07 | 1:18:09 | |
Good boy, Nicholas. | 1:18:09 | 1:18:10 | |
Well done, Nicholas. | 1:18:10 | 1:18:12 | |
If behaviour is communication,
how do we get children | 1:18:12 | 1:18:15 | |
to communicate using their words
rather than using their behaviour? | 1:18:15 | 1:18:23 | |
Why is it important to listen
to all of the words, do you think? | 1:18:24 | 1:18:28 | |
Archie? | 1:18:28 | 1:18:29 | |
We use our speech and language
therapist to work with all the key | 1:18:29 | 1:18:36 | |
stage one nurture group
children every week. | 1:18:36 | 1:18:38 | |
Listening is looking
at the person who is... | 1:18:38 | 1:18:40 | |
Talking. | 1:18:40 | 1:18:42 | |
Talking, and who is
talking right now? | 1:18:42 | 1:18:43 | |
So we should your eyes be? | 1:18:43 | 1:18:46 | |
I'm looking at you already. | 1:18:46 | 1:18:47 | |
Fantastic. | 1:18:47 | 1:18:48 | |
She works with them
around communication, | 1:18:48 | 1:18:51 | |
how to communicate using words,
and actually how | 1:18:51 | 1:18:53 | |
powerful words can be. | 1:18:53 | 1:18:58 | |
And we find that a lot
of our children here aren't able | 1:18:58 | 1:19:00 | |
to find the words to express
themselves when they first come | 1:19:00 | 1:19:03 | |
here, which is why the do
it by their behaviour. | 1:19:03 | 1:19:06 | |
And done. | 1:19:06 | 1:19:08 | |
Zachariah, you gave excellent
instructions to Austin, | 1:19:08 | 1:19:11 | |
because he was able to follow your
instructions and build the project. | 1:19:11 | 1:19:14 | |
A success. | 1:19:14 | 1:19:20 | |
The teachers at the unit say some
of the children show some signs | 1:19:20 | 1:19:23 | |
of having conditions
like Attention Deficit | 1:19:23 | 1:19:25 | |
Hyperactivity Disorder -
ADHD - but haven't had | 1:19:25 | 1:19:27 | |
an official diagnosis. | 1:19:27 | 1:19:28 | |
For many parents we've met,
that's precisely the problem. | 1:19:28 | 1:19:31 | |
Today, the ADHD Foundation
is revealing on this programme that | 1:19:31 | 1:19:33 | |
they're writing to the government
to call for action, because far too | 1:19:33 | 1:19:38 | |
many children are ending up
being excluded because of delays | 1:19:38 | 1:19:40 | |
in diagnosing underlying conditions. | 1:19:40 | 1:19:42 | |
Let's speak now to Doctor Tony
Lloyd, chief executive | 1:19:42 | 1:19:44 | |
of the ADHD Foundation. | 1:19:44 | 1:19:49 | |
hello and thank you for your time. | 1:19:49 | 1:19:51 | |
hello and thank you for your time.
Good morning, Victoria. Why is this | 1:19:51 | 1:19:55 | |
crucial? On average, it is taking up
to two years to have an assessment | 1:19:55 | 1:20:00 | |
and diagnosis for a child, certainly
much longer if you are an adult but | 1:20:00 | 1:20:07 | |
we are seeing schools under
increased pressure and four children | 1:20:07 | 1:20:11 | |
with ADHD, we have to remember about
two thirds of children with ADHD | 1:20:11 | 1:20:15 | |
will have an additional learning
difficulty, the experience of | 1:20:15 | 1:20:18 | |
learning in a classroom context can
be very distressing for these | 1:20:18 | 1:20:22 | |
children. The longer we had to wait
for assessment and diagnosis, the | 1:20:22 | 1:20:26 | |
greater risk that child will have a
very negative experience at school | 1:20:26 | 1:20:30 | |
and is potentially going to end up
excluded. Nine out of ten exclusions | 1:20:30 | 1:20:35 | |
in primary education are for
children with additional needs. | 1:20:35 | 1:20:39 | |
Really? OK, that is an incredible
statistic, if that is accurate. Do | 1:20:39 | 1:20:45 | |
you have any indication of how many
children who are in pupil referral | 1:20:45 | 1:20:49 | |
units may have undiagnosed
conditions. That's a very difficult | 1:20:49 | 1:20:56 | |
thing to estimate but we would
imagine a very significant number. | 1:20:56 | 1:21:00 | |
For example we know that over 90% of
young people involved in the youth | 1:21:00 | 1:21:04 | |
justice system have a learning
difficulty. Clearly we are with a | 1:21:04 | 1:21:08 | |
vulnerable population of children
here. ADHD, autism, dyspraxia, | 1:21:08 | 1:21:14 | |
dyslexia. It is rare that these
conditions are on their own, many | 1:21:14 | 1:21:19 | |
children will have at least one
learning difficulty as well. Daschle | 1:21:19 | 1:21:24 | |
one additional learning difficulty
as well. It can be quite complex. | 1:21:24 | 1:21:28 | |
There is a real need for much
earlier assessment, intervention and | 1:21:28 | 1:21:32 | |
diagnosis, if that is appropriate.
There's quite a lot of | 1:21:32 | 1:21:36 | |
misunderstanding surrounding ADHD,
how would you describe it? ADHD is a | 1:21:36 | 1:21:41 | |
complex condition really. It isn't
just about HT children who are | 1:21:41 | 1:21:45 | |
hyperactive and cannot concentrate
-- about fidgeting children. They | 1:21:45 | 1:21:51 | |
have a great deal of trouble
planning and organising their | 1:21:51 | 1:21:55 | |
thoughts and actions. We know that
one of the most difficult things | 1:21:55 | 1:21:59 | |
about ADHD is living with this
constant low-level anxiety that is | 1:21:59 | 1:22:04 | |
there all the time. They have very
poor sleep patterns, many of them, | 1:22:04 | 1:22:09 | |
which makes it difficult for them to
function and concentrate in school | 1:22:09 | 1:22:13 | |
the next day. Emotionally it can be
quite distressing for many children. | 1:22:13 | 1:22:17 | |
You can have it in a mild, moderate
or severe form. We know there are | 1:22:17 | 1:22:22 | |
environmental factors like the home
and the school which can | 1:22:22 | 1:22:25 | |
significantly impact on how ADHD
presents. With the right schooling, | 1:22:25 | 1:22:28 | |
we know there are examples of what
we see in PR yous, some really good | 1:22:28 | 1:22:37 | |
teaching and interventions which
focus on the child's mental health | 1:22:37 | 1:22:39 | |
well-being and education -- PRU. Let
us know your reply you get from the | 1:22:39 | 1:22:46 | |
government when you have written to
them. Thank you. | 1:22:46 | 1:22:50 | |
Nearly four months ago,
Jeremy Corbyn announced Westminster | 1:22:50 | 1:22:52 | |
had a "warped and degrading culture"
and MPs and others in politics | 1:22:52 | 1:22:55 | |
who sexually harass women must be
held accountable for their actions. | 1:22:55 | 1:22:58 | |
Now a group of female Labour members
have released a report | 1:22:58 | 1:23:00 | |
which contains dozens of claims
of abuse and harassment | 1:23:00 | 1:23:03 | |
within the party. | 1:23:03 | 1:23:08 | |
Labour says it is committed
to continually improving how it | 1:23:08 | 1:23:11 | |
handles complaints of harassment,
but this isn't a problem | 1:23:11 | 1:23:13 | |
which affects just one party. | 1:23:13 | 1:23:16 | |
Today MPs from across the board
will debate plans for a new code | 1:23:16 | 1:23:19 | |
of behaviour for everyone
working in Parliament. | 1:23:19 | 1:23:21 | |
Our reporter Greg Dawson explains: | 1:23:21 | 1:23:24 | |
In the five months since the flurry
of allegations of harassment at | 1:23:24 | 1:23:27 | |
Westminster first surfaced, there
have been a number of investigations | 1:23:27 | 1:23:30 | |
and some resignations. | 1:23:30 | 1:23:34 | |
Now MPs from all parties
are working through | 1:23:34 | 1:23:36 | |
plans to change the culture
here that allowed abuse. | 1:23:36 | 1:23:40 | |
Today, though, we are learning
about the extent of | 1:23:40 | 1:23:42 | |
accusations within one
of those parties. | 1:23:42 | 1:23:45 | |
My boss, a Labour MP, raped me. | 1:23:45 | 1:23:48 | |
I said nothing at the time. | 1:23:48 | 1:23:49 | |
How could I? | 1:23:49 | 1:23:50 | |
I would have lost my job. | 1:23:50 | 1:23:52 | |
I was scared I would lose friends
and the support of other | 1:23:52 | 1:23:56 | |
activists and councillors
in my community. | 1:23:56 | 1:23:58 | |
The LabourToo movement, | 1:23:58 | 1:23:59 | |
a group of female Labour members
have sent a report | 1:23:59 | 1:24:02 | |
to the party's HQ. | 1:24:02 | 1:24:03 | |
It details a number
of complaints of abuse, | 1:24:03 | 1:24:05 | |
harassment and discrimination
within the party. | 1:24:05 | 1:24:10 | |
My employer, a male Labour
politician, left pornographic | 1:24:10 | 1:24:13 | |
magazines behind in the office
after working late. | 1:24:13 | 1:24:18 | |
All the female staff
and a young female on work | 1:24:18 | 1:24:21 | |
experience came across them
at different times - in a wastepaper | 1:24:21 | 1:24:24 | |
bin, in a desk or hidden
amongst office paperwork. | 1:24:24 | 1:24:26 | |
It was never raised with him. | 1:24:26 | 1:24:28 | |
This programme has been
shown a number of those | 1:24:28 | 1:24:31 | |
anonymous complaints. | 1:24:31 | 1:24:35 | |
All of them are unverified
and no date has been | 1:24:35 | 1:24:37 | |
given to when these
incidents may have occurred. | 1:24:37 | 1:24:40 | |
As an intern, I was sexually
harassed by a married male | 1:24:40 | 1:24:43 | |
MP at a Christmas party. | 1:24:43 | 1:24:45 | |
He got drunk and I
remember he was very red | 1:24:45 | 1:24:47 | |
in the face and started coming up
behind me and stroking my arm. | 1:24:47 | 1:24:51 | |
I felt really uncomfortable and not
able to report it to the Labour | 1:24:51 | 1:24:54 | |
Party. | 1:24:54 | 1:24:55 | |
Because the people I had to tell
would have known him and wanted | 1:24:55 | 1:24:58 | |
to protect him. | 1:24:58 | 1:24:59 | |
A senior party official
was very drunk at a | 1:24:59 | 1:25:02 | |
party conference. | 1:25:02 | 1:25:04 | |
I got him to his hotel and he said
he couldn't remember his | 1:25:04 | 1:25:07 | |
room number. | 1:25:07 | 1:25:08 | |
We got to the third floor
and found his room after trial | 1:25:08 | 1:25:11 | |
and error. | 1:25:11 | 1:25:12 | |
He pushed me down onto the bed
and started to kiss and | 1:25:12 | 1:25:16 | |
grope me. | 1:25:16 | 1:25:17 | |
I told him, "No," and to stop,
but he ignored it. | 1:25:17 | 1:25:21 | |
LabourToo now want
the party to create an | 1:25:21 | 1:25:29 | |
independent complaint process,
including panels made up of people | 1:25:30 | 1:25:32 | |
with no clear link to the party. | 1:25:32 | 1:25:34 | |
In response, Labour has told this
programme it is committed to | 1:25:34 | 1:25:37 | |
continually improving how
it handles complaints, | 1:25:37 | 1:25:38 | |
and this report will feed into two
ongoing reviews of the | 1:25:38 | 1:25:41 | |
party's ongoing procedures
for dealing with sexual harassment. | 1:25:41 | 1:25:43 | |
It also points to a number
of recent changes, | 1:25:43 | 1:25:45 | |
including a new hotline
for | 1:25:45 | 1:25:46 | |
members to report complaints. | 1:25:46 | 1:25:49 | |
All of this comes on
the day when MPs will | 1:25:49 | 1:25:51 | |
debate plans for a new code
of behaviour for everyone working in | 1:25:51 | 1:25:54 | |
Parliament and a new complaints
investigation system, independent of | 1:25:54 | 1:25:56 | |
political parties. | 1:25:56 | 1:26:01 | |
In the most severe cases,
MPs can be suspended | 1:26:01 | 1:26:03 | |
or be forced to face a public
vote on their future. | 1:26:03 | 1:26:11 | |
Let's talk to Labour MP
Stella Creasy - who is a supporter | 1:26:12 | 1:26:15 | |
of the Labour Too campaign,
which was set up after the MeToo | 1:26:15 | 1:26:18 | |
scandal in Hollywood. | 1:26:18 | 1:26:26 | |
And Jane Merrick -
former political editor | 1:26:26 | 1:26:27 | |
of the Independent on Sunday,
who went public about | 1:26:27 | 1:26:30 | |
being harassed by former
Defence Secretary Michael Fallon | 1:26:30 | 1:26:31 | |
actually when she worked
at the Daily Mail. | 1:26:31 | 1:26:33 | |
Mr Fallon was forced
to leave his role because of | 1:26:33 | 1:26:36 | |
the allegations made against him. | 1:26:36 | 1:26:37 | |
How do you react to these 43 women
who have spoken up about what has | 1:26:37 | 1:26:41 | |
happened to them? First of all I
want to say thank you. To them for | 1:26:41 | 1:26:45 | |
being brave enough to come forward
and use this forum to report what | 1:26:45 | 1:26:49 | |
has happened. This isn't about witch
hunting individual people but to | 1:26:49 | 1:26:54 | |
show systematic failings we have in
safeguarding people in our party at | 1:26:54 | 1:26:58 | |
all levels. Brilliant volunteers and
campaigners who make the party what | 1:26:58 | 1:27:01 | |
it is at its best but we're letting
them down right now because we do | 1:27:01 | 1:27:04 | |
not have processes to deal with
those people who make us our worst. | 1:27:04 | 1:27:11 | |
I was heartbroken to read the
systematic list of what has been | 1:27:11 | 1:27:14 | |
happening and I was struck by the
concept of common knowledge that it | 1:27:14 | 1:27:18 | |
talks about, when some of these
women tried to report what happened, | 1:27:18 | 1:27:21 | |
people would say, we know about him,
and gave them tips on how to deal | 1:27:21 | 1:27:25 | |
with it rather than stopping it. One
of the things we are on a crusade | 1:27:25 | 1:27:29 | |
about is that we do not have to cope
with this, but we have to say. | 1:27:29 | 1:27:42 | |
with this, but we have to say. On
some occasions, women were told not | 1:27:43 | 1:27:44 | |
to say anything because it may
damage the reputation of the party | 1:27:44 | 1:27:51 | |
all be quiet, don't even go to the
police? That's why the women's | 1:27:51 | 1:27:56 | |
Parliamentary Labour Party have
supported the group and said they | 1:27:56 | 1:27:59 | |
need a completely independent
process. So that you take | 1:27:59 | 1:28:03 | |
friendships and career options out
of any of these conversations. It is | 1:28:03 | 1:28:06 | |
about behaviour and how it is
tackled and how you stop it. Does it | 1:28:06 | 1:28:10 | |
damage the party? It damages
everyone, it is across society. I | 1:28:10 | 1:28:14 | |
was up to school this morning
speaking to girls about how we | 1:28:14 | 1:28:18 | |
tackle sexual harassment. The sad
truth is in 2018 it is still an | 1:28:18 | 1:28:22 | |
unequal society and people think
they have the power to abuse others. | 1:28:22 | 1:28:27 | |
Why has this been going on? Sexual
harassment and assault is about | 1:28:27 | 1:28:32 | |
power, it isn't about sex. It
happens across society, it is a | 1:28:32 | 1:28:36 | |
place where power is hard currency.
In Westminster. People can get away | 1:28:36 | 1:28:43 | |
with it because they get away with
quite a lot. When Michael Fallon | 1:28:43 | 1:28:48 | |
resigned as Defence Secretary, he
said "What had been acceptable 10-15 | 1:28:48 | 1:28:52 | |
years ago is clearly not acceptable
now". You disagreed with the | 1:28:52 | 1:28:56 | |
statement anyway but you have worked
as a political journalist for nearly | 1:28:56 | 1:29:00 | |
two decades. How do you think
attitudes have changed in that time, | 1:29:00 | 1:29:03 | |
or are they only just changing? I
think they are only just changing | 1:29:03 | 1:29:07 | |
now. This only happened to me once
but I am aware of colleagues and | 1:29:07 | 1:29:15 | |
others who this has happened to. Of
course it is still happening now and | 1:29:15 | 1:29:18 | |
like Stella I am completely shocked
by the report today. I think there | 1:29:18 | 1:29:21 | |
will be a change, I think people are
now starting to talk about it. We | 1:29:21 | 1:29:25 | |
will not tolerate this behaviour any
more. Steps will be taken, I wonder | 1:29:25 | 1:29:29 | |
why Krakow I have reservations about
whether the steps will be foreigner | 1:29:29 | 1:29:33 | |
but we will not tolerate it any more
-- I wonder, I still have | 1:29:33 | 1:29:37 | |
reservations. I was verified by the
stories that I was being told, women | 1:29:37 | 1:29:44 | |
were contacting me by Diem on
Twitter, they were telling me about | 1:29:44 | 1:29:48 | |
sexual assault by politicians -- DM.
I had to refer them to other people, | 1:29:48 | 1:30:00 | |
and I had to refer them to Labour
because a lot of it involved Labour | 1:30:00 | 1:30:05 | |
politicians. You want someone
independent where people can make | 1:30:05 | 1:30:07 | |
complaints and be heard. MPs are
debating the cross-party report | 1:30:07 | 1:30:12 | |
which will try and clamp down on
bullying and harassment in | 1:30:12 | 1:30:15 | |
Parliament. You say you have
reservations, why? I do think that | 1:30:15 | 1:30:21 | |
there are some gaps there. The
independent process, it is great | 1:30:21 | 1:30:26 | |
there will be an independent system
for people working in Parliament but | 1:30:26 | 1:30:29 | |
it only applies to those who have
been harassed or assaulted, | 1:30:29 | 1:30:33 | |
Parliamentary pass holders. So if it
happens in a pub or at a social | 1:30:33 | 1:30:37 | |
event, it would not be...? Yes,
that's where a lot of the behaviour | 1:30:37 | 1:30:42 | |
goes on according to the report. It
is a party conference, you don't | 1:30:42 | 1:30:46 | |
need to be a pass holder to be
sexually harassed by an MP so I have | 1:30:46 | 1:30:50 | |
concerns it will fall through the
gaps. Your reaction? It has two fit | 1:30:50 | 1:30:55 | |
with what political parties do to
keep volunteers say. My concern is | 1:30:55 | 1:31:00 | |
ultimately, what happens when we
find someone who has behaved | 1:31:00 | 1:31:04 | |
inappropriately? House of Commons
staff will lose their jobs | 1:31:04 | 1:31:07 | |
currently, and we are not there on
the concept of recall, with the | 1:31:07 | 1:31:11 | |
opportunity for the public to say if
their MP has done something | 1:31:11 | 1:31:15 | |
inappropriate, they don't want them
to be their MP any more. I don't | 1:31:15 | 1:31:20 | |
want to send a woman to speak to
them about a constituency matter | 1:31:20 | 1:31:24 | |
knowing that this has happened.
Recall is a final piece of the | 1:31:24 | 1:31:27 | |
puzzle. We have definitely made
progress and change is possible but | 1:31:27 | 1:31:30 | |
it is not certain into would get the
whole system right and it includes | 1:31:30 | 1:31:33 | |
independence but also clear
sanctions. Thank you to both of you. | 1:31:33 | 1:31:38 | |
Thank you for coming onto the
programme. | 1:31:38 | 1:31:43 | |
The top police officer in charge
of catching Britain's paedophiles - | 1:31:43 | 1:31:46 | |
Chief Constable Simon Bailey -
has told this programme | 1:31:46 | 1:31:48 | |
there are potentially 20,000
paedophiles in Britain. | 1:31:48 | 1:31:49 | |
I think 20,000 is probably
a conservative estimate. | 1:31:49 | 1:31:52 | |
So, what, double that? | 1:31:52 | 1:31:54 | |
I'm not sure that's trying to put
a figure on it and gain a headline | 1:31:54 | 1:31:59 | |
is actually helpful. | 1:31:59 | 1:32:01 | |
I'm just trying to, I'm actually
just trying to understand the scale | 1:32:01 | 1:32:05 | |
of it in this country. | 1:32:05 | 1:32:07 | |
The scale of it is huge. | 1:32:07 | 1:32:09 | |
There's absolutely no doubt
in my mind whatsoever, | 1:32:09 | 1:32:11 | |
I think it's one of the greatest
threats that we currently face | 1:32:11 | 1:32:14 | |
from a policing perspective. | 1:32:14 | 1:32:17 | |
And you only have to look
at the activities taking place | 1:32:17 | 1:32:25 | |
across the country every single day,
dealing with reports | 1:32:27 | 1:32:29 | |
of non-recent abuse,
dealing with reports of familial | 1:32:29 | 1:32:31 | |
abuse which is still by far
the greatest volume of abuse | 1:32:31 | 1:32:33 | |
that we take, but then looking
at how we meet the challenges | 1:32:33 | 1:32:36 | |
of the abuse that is being
perpetrated through digital | 1:32:36 | 1:32:40 | |
technology, and the increasing
volumes that we have to deal | 1:32:40 | 1:32:44 | |
with and the changing face of that. | 1:32:44 | 1:32:48 | |
We are now having to deal
with an emerging threat where live | 1:32:48 | 1:32:51 | |
streaming platforms are affording
men and on occasions women | 1:32:51 | 1:32:56 | |
the opportunity to then
seek to groom children. | 1:32:56 | 1:33:04 | |
Chief Constable Simon Bailey. At
this Tweet, listening and the | 1:33:06 | 1:33:12 | |
numbers are terrifying, how should
we open dialogue with our children | 1:33:12 | 1:33:15 | |
without scaring them? If you go to
the NSPCC website, they have got a | 1:33:15 | 1:33:22 | |
brilliant campaign, called Pants,
they give you advice and suggestions | 1:33:22 | 1:33:24 | |
and tips on how you can talk to your
children which starts with you | 1:33:24 | 1:33:29 | |
speaking to your children about the
fact that their pants are private. | 1:33:29 | 1:33:33 | |
That's the start of the
conversation. This e-mail is from | 1:33:33 | 1:33:36 | |
someone who does not wish to leave
their name, which is absolutely | 1:33:36 | 1:33:39 | |
fine. This person was watching Simon
Bailey. I am now in my 60s and I | 1:33:39 | 1:33:44 | |
finally got up the courage to report
the sexual abuse over a two-year | 1:33:44 | 1:33:48 | |
period that I suffered as a
nine-year-old at the hands of a | 1:33:48 | 1:33:51 | |
neighbour. I was so grateful that
the police officers listened to me, | 1:33:51 | 1:33:56 | |
recorded and attempted to locate
this while man. Unfortunately they | 1:33:56 | 1:34:02 | |
were unable to do so. But for me
this was stepping | 1:34:02 | 1:34:11 | |
this was stepping trying to overcome
what happened to me. I did all I | 1:34:11 | 1:34:14 | |
could to protect my own children and
I feel for parents who have to do so | 1:34:14 | 1:34:21 | |
in the much harsher environment. | 1:34:21 | 1:34:24 | |
The Beast from the East has started
to bite with temperatures tumbling | 1:34:24 | 1:34:27 | |
to as low as minus 12 degrees
in some parts overnight - | 1:34:27 | 1:34:29 | |
the lowest for this time
of year since 1991. | 1:34:29 | 1:34:32 | |
The accompanying snow and ice has
forced hundreds of schools to close | 1:34:32 | 1:34:34 | |
and there has been major travel
disruption on roads, | 1:34:34 | 1:34:37 | |
rail and flights have been grounded. | 1:34:37 | 1:34:38 | |
And forecasters say the worst is yet
to come, with warnings | 1:34:38 | 1:34:41 | |
in place until the weekend. | 1:34:41 | 1:34:42 | |
in place until the weekend. | 1:34:42 | 1:34:45 | |
Tell us the situation, Mr Connelly,
if you would. You can probably see | 1:34:45 | 1:34:52 | |
some of the scenes behind us, the
severe weather that we're receiving | 1:34:52 | 1:34:55 | |
here just now. Were only four and a
half hours into 36 hour Amber | 1:34:55 | 1:35:01 | |
warning, so we are just at the start
of this. For those of us who've | 1:35:01 | 1:35:05 | |
ventured out this morning, really
they have got to be careful to make | 1:35:05 | 1:35:09 | |
sure that they can go home, and
avoid travel during the amber | 1:35:09 | 1:35:16 | |
warning. We really don't want to on
the road at all, putting yourself at | 1:35:16 | 1:35:20 | |
risk. So no one go out and as they
really have to? We're avoiding | 1:35:20 | 1:35:25 | |
avoiding travelling. If you're going
out there, expect some sort of | 1:35:25 | 1:35:31 | |
disruption. The weather we're
experiencing, there are incidents | 1:35:31 | 1:35:35 | |
and accidents happening around the
place. We have got our gritters out | 1:35:35 | 1:35:42 | |
there to try give the roads open but
you plough and it turns white behind | 1:35:42 | 1:35:45 | |
you. It's the amber weather alert
that the Met Office can put out so | 1:35:45 | 1:35:51 | |
it's very challenging. So we're told
the West -- worse is yet to come so | 1:35:51 | 1:35:57 | |
what is your advice for motorists?
Heed the warnings, at the moment | 1:35:57 | 1:36:03 | |
Strathclyde Police Scotland are
putting out the message, avoid | 1:36:03 | 1:36:07 | |
trouble in the area of the amber
alert. If you are travelling out | 1:36:07 | 1:36:12 | |
with, it's still a high risk of
disruption, you're at risk of | 1:36:12 | 1:36:18 | |
putting yourself at risk and being
stranded. So heed the warnings. If | 1:36:18 | 1:36:22 | |
you have to go out, plan your
journey and make sure you're ready | 1:36:22 | 1:36:24 | |
for the journey. If you do get
stranded, make sure you have a | 1:36:24 | 1:36:31 | |
blanket, food and water and that you
are prepared. | 1:36:31 | 1:36:38 | |
Breaking news now, and Maplin has
now just gone bust. half thousand | 1:36:40 | 1:36:45 | |
jobs at risk. This is half an hour
after the news we brought you about | 1:36:45 | 1:36:48 | |
Toys R Us, they have too gone bust
this morning. 3200 jobs at risk but | 1:36:48 | 1:36:56 | |
the electrical retailer Maplin has
collapsed and 2500 jobs at risk. | 1:36:56 | 1:37:06 | |
Most come at 11am! . Roger Moore to
come at | 1:37:06 | 1:37:11 | |
-- more to come at 11am. There has
been an internal review in a charity | 1:37:14 | 1:37:26 | |
after a complaint from a former
employee. The chair of trustees at | 1:37:26 | 1:37:30 | |
the charity has also been
criticised. The error foundation is | 1:37:30 | 1:37:35 | |
now facing insolvency proceedings.
This exclusive report now. | 1:37:35 | 1:37:42 | |
The Mira foundation is a charity
working with women who have | 1:37:42 | 1:37:46 | |
experienced domestic violence and
abuse. We have lots of strategy and | 1:37:46 | 1:37:52 | |
enthusiasm...
She was the founder of the charity | 1:37:52 | 1:37:55 | |
set up to protect and vulnerable --
protect vulnerable women. Another | 1:37:55 | 1:38:00 | |
charity says that she has been
suspended as CEO after the trustees | 1:38:00 | 1:38:05 | |
of into allegations of financial
irregularities. She worked for the | 1:38:05 | 1:38:08 | |
Amirah Foundation. She called in the
charity trustees after spotting bank | 1:38:08 | 1:38:16 | |
statements which she said showed
unusually large sums for rental | 1:38:16 | 1:38:21 | |
payments. A lot of these women and
children are the ones who would slip | 1:38:21 | 1:38:24 | |
through the net, if we like. So we
would be dealing with people who may | 1:38:24 | 1:38:29 | |
not have access to public funds,
they may come with all sorts of | 1:38:29 | 1:38:34 | |
complex needs. There are entitled to
a good quality support. And if we | 1:38:34 | 1:38:38 | |
have donors who are coming forward
with the aim of supporting these | 1:38:38 | 1:38:42 | |
vulnerable people, that's where the
money should be going as far as I'm | 1:38:42 | 1:38:46 | |
concerned. The trustees of the
charity, based here in Sparkbrook, | 1:38:46 | 1:38:51 | |
have now released their initial view
on the allegations raised by the | 1:38:51 | 1:38:54 | |
complaint. They include that the
director on occasion paid herself a | 1:38:54 | 1:39:03 | |
full wage more than months in a
month, and thousands of donations | 1:39:03 | 1:39:11 | |
were never donated. Another woman,
chair of the trustees, has also been | 1:39:11 | 1:39:16 | |
criticised by the trustees. They say
money was still being paid to a | 1:39:16 | 1:39:21 | |
company registered in her name two
years after it was dissolved. The | 1:39:21 | 1:39:24 | |
trustees say neither women
cooperated with their review. I | 1:39:24 | 1:39:28 | |
think the question that I did asks
were question around accountability. | 1:39:28 | 1:39:33 | |
At the same time, you have to
understand that there is a level of | 1:39:33 | 1:39:37 | |
trust that any organisation will
give to the CEO. What you got to | 1:39:37 | 1:39:43 | |
remember is that when this
information has come to light, I've | 1:39:43 | 1:39:48 | |
gone to the police, sought the
advice of the police, I've not tried | 1:39:48 | 1:39:50 | |
to hide it. I've got no interest in
train to hide it. I am keen to be | 1:39:50 | 1:39:55 | |
called into court to show that
everything I have. Imran worked as a | 1:39:55 | 1:40:01 | |
graphic designer for Amirah
Foundation for more than three | 1:40:01 | 1:40:04 | |
years. He says he was fired after
raising concerns with the CEO about | 1:40:04 | 1:40:08 | |
the charity's financial dealings.
She was adamant that I had embedded | 1:40:08 | 1:40:14 | |
microphones and cameras into her
desk, I had tapped telephone, and | 1:40:14 | 1:40:18 | |
she refused to sit at her desk,
that's how paranoid she was that | 1:40:18 | 1:40:24 | |
someone was try to get information
out of her. I have made several | 1:40:24 | 1:40:27 | |
attempts to contact both women for
comment without success. And there's | 1:40:27 | 1:40:31 | |
no answer at the offices either. In
the last few years, they received as | 1:40:31 | 1:40:38 | |
much as £100,000 in grants from a
number of organisations, including | 1:40:38 | 1:40:45 | |
the lottery fund, the Lloyds bank
foundation and the policing crime | 1:40:45 | 1:40:48 | |
commission. But by the time this
investigation began, the charities | 1:40:48 | 1:40:52 | |
accounts were overdrawn by £68. The
allegations are now with the City of | 1:40:52 | 1:40:58 | |
London Police National fraud
intelligence era. It was never my | 1:40:58 | 1:41:03 | |
intention to become a
whistle-blower, my intention was to | 1:41:03 | 1:41:06 | |
do what I thought was right and
that's what I've done. It may not be | 1:41:06 | 1:41:09 | |
right in the eyes of some of the
people but for me, it feels right | 1:41:09 | 1:41:14 | |
and the truth is on my side, what
more can I say? The work with | 1:41:14 | 1:41:19 | |
domestic violence victims has been
taken over by another charity. The | 1:41:19 | 1:41:23 | |
foundation itself is now insolvent.
And a meeting of creditors will take | 1:41:23 | 1:41:28 | |
place tomorrow. | 1:41:28 | 1:41:32 | |
You can see more on this story on
Midlands today this evening. | 1:41:32 | 1:41:37 | |
Most cannabis being sold illegally
in the UK is super-strength skunk - | 1:41:37 | 1:41:42 | |
according to a new analysis
of samples by the police. | 1:41:42 | 1:41:47 | |
This highly potent type of the drug
is linked to a higher risk | 1:41:47 | 1:41:50 | |
of psychotic mental health episodes. | 1:41:50 | 1:41:55 | |
We can speak now to Jason
Pegler who began smoking | 1:41:55 | 1:41:57 | |
cannabis at 14 and went on to suffer
from mental health problems. | 1:41:57 | 1:42:02 | |
He's also the author
A Can of Madness. | 1:42:02 | 1:42:06 | |
And the report's author,
Dr Marta di Forti from | 1:42:06 | 1:42:08 | |
King's College London. | 1:42:08 | 1:42:14 | |
Just tell our audience exactly what
you found, first of all. Good | 1:42:14 | 1:42:18 | |
morning, Victoria. As you said, we
analysed 1000 samples seized by | 1:42:18 | 1:42:25 | |
British police, and we found that
94% of the sample were represented | 1:42:25 | 1:42:30 | |
by what we call skunk, which is a
kind of cannabis which we regard as | 1:42:30 | 1:42:37 | |
potent as it contains a high
percentage of THC, which is the | 1:42:37 | 1:42:46 | |
ingredient responsible for the
psychotic symptoms related to | 1:42:46 | 1:42:50 | |
cannabis. We did not find that the
potency of skunk has gone up if we | 1:42:50 | 1:42:54 | |
prepare it to the Home Office study
of 2008, and another study published | 1:42:54 | 1:42:59 | |
at the same time. So we're talking
about a skunk with an average THC of | 1:42:59 | 1:43:05 | |
14% it is potent enough. Potent
enough to do what, potentially, link | 1:43:05 | 1:43:09 | |
to what? Potent enough to lead to
the area of my concerned, I'm a | 1:43:09 | 1:43:16 | |
psychiatrist, so we have shown that
those who use skunk of this type of | 1:43:16 | 1:43:23 | |
potency daily have a fivefold
increase in the risk of getting a | 1:43:23 | 1:43:29 | |
psychotic disorder, not transient
symptoms, but people coming to the | 1:43:29 | 1:43:33 | |
attention of mental health services.
And we have shown that this type of | 1:43:33 | 1:43:40 | |
skunk, high potency cannabis, is
also more likely to reduce | 1:43:40 | 1:43:42 | |
dependence with all the correlates
of this issue of individual and | 1:43:42 | 1:43:49 | |
services on society. Let me bring in
Jason, thank you for talking to us. | 1:43:49 | 1:43:54 | |
Do you think the cannabis that you
have smoked, and I know it's varied | 1:43:54 | 1:43:57 | |
in strength over the years,
contributed to your mental health | 1:43:57 | 1:44:02 | |
problems? Yes, this is a very long
time ago, in the 1990s when I was a | 1:44:02 | 1:44:07 | |
teenager. But from the age of 14 to
17, I took various types of cannabis | 1:44:07 | 1:44:15 | |
and the skunk was definitely very
strong. I've been publishing people | 1:44:15 | 1:44:23 | |
with mental illness for 17 years and
I've definitely found cases of | 1:44:23 | 1:44:28 | |
people who we have published have
just taken cannabis and it set a | 1:44:28 | 1:44:34 | |
manic depression, schizophrenia and
it also leads to people taking other | 1:44:34 | 1:44:38 | |
types of drugs and breaking the law.
Overall, skunk is definitely | 1:44:38 | 1:44:43 | |
dangerous. Yet some people are still
sceptical about the link between | 1:44:43 | 1:44:46 | |
skunk and mental health disorders.
Well, from my own experience, many | 1:44:46 | 1:44:56 | |
years ago, it definitely lead to a
different state of mind and | 1:44:56 | 1:45:00 | |
something that I would definitely
not want my own children | 1:45:00 | 1:45:04 | |
experiencing. How would you describe
that different state of mind, Jason? | 1:45:04 | 1:45:10 | |
At the time, it was something that
made me definitely... More high | 1:45:10 | 1:45:17 | |
terms and it lets two, after
stopping taking it, it led to | 1:45:17 | 1:45:23 | |
paranoia which nobody wants and more
worried someone gets, the more | 1:45:23 | 1:45:28 | |
likely they are to step into a
mental breakdown as opposed to being | 1:45:28 | 1:45:32 | |
mentally well. | 1:45:32 | 1:45:36 | |
And what you think about those who
are sceptical about the links that | 1:45:36 | 1:45:40 | |
you have been pointing out today,
Doctor? If they're enough to say | 1:45:40 | 1:45:47 | |
that not everyone who uses cannabis
will get a psychotic disorder, it is | 1:45:47 | 1:45:52 | |
about identifying those who are at
risk and experience what you are | 1:45:52 | 1:45:57 | |
describing. These are people I see
in my clinic every Thursday. There | 1:45:57 | 1:46:01 | |
has been a lot of comment about this
this morning. People who say that | 1:46:01 | 1:46:06 | |
skunk is not dangerous and it is
actually a medicine. I do hope that | 1:46:06 | 1:46:10 | |
one day we will get to a point where
it is very clear about how you can | 1:46:10 | 1:46:14 | |
exploit safely the medicinal
properties of cannabis ingredients | 1:46:14 | 1:46:22 | |
like THC, but we also need to be
aware of the consequences of | 1:46:22 | 1:46:26 | |
uncontrolled recreational use, which
is what most teenagers do. I don't | 1:46:26 | 1:46:33 | |
think teenagers use cannabis for
medicinal purposes. These are the | 1:46:33 | 1:46:37 | |
casualties I see. If you are
interested in the potential side of | 1:46:37 | 1:46:41 | |
cannabis use, without undermining
the possibility that we can actually | 1:46:41 | 1:46:45 | |
use cannabis in a benign way. And on
social media, as you know, you have | 1:46:45 | 1:46:51 | |
been accused of making your living
out of scaring people out of using | 1:46:51 | 1:46:55 | |
skunk? Yes, and I do make a living
out of researching the effective | 1:46:55 | 1:47:03 | |
skunk so I wouldn't necessarily say
it is a wrong comment but what I | 1:47:03 | 1:47:06 | |
don't think is fair to say is that
my intent is to scare people. One | 1:47:06 | 1:47:11 | |
analogy I give to my young patients
in the clinic is about aspirin. | 1:47:11 | 1:47:16 | |
Aspirin is the most commonly
prescribed medication supported by | 1:47:16 | 1:47:22 | |
the foundation and I am one of those
people who looks at the gastric | 1:47:22 | 1:47:26 | |
bleeding that you can get if you use
aspirin in an uncontrolled manner. | 1:47:26 | 1:47:31 | |
That doesn't mean that you cannot
use it safely. Maybe I am making my | 1:47:31 | 1:47:36 | |
life out of research and the
consequences of using cannabis in | 1:47:36 | 1:47:39 | |
general that is an especially high
potency but this is for those | 1:47:39 | 1:47:48 | |
experiencing such symptoms like
psychosis. Thank you to both of you | 1:47:48 | 1:47:52 | |
for | 1:47:52 | 1:47:52 | |
coming in this morning.
Let me read this e-mail about | 1:47:52 | 1:47:58 | |
someone with ADHD.
I was finally diagnosed with ADHD at | 1:47:58 | 1:48:02 | |
the age of 53. The path to diagnosis
was very difficult and as most | 1:48:02 | 1:48:08 | |
people diagnosed in adulthood will
tell you, it's common to encounter | 1:48:08 | 1:48:12 | |
GPs and even psychiatrists who
misunderstand ADHD and some who | 1:48:12 | 1:48:15 | |
believe it doesn't actually exist.
It's a spectrum condition that can | 1:48:15 | 1:48:19 | |
vary in how it presents and that may
also be an obstacle to accurate | 1:48:19 | 1:48:24 | |
diagnosis. I'm taking a medication
that has transformed my life. It is | 1:48:24 | 1:48:30 | |
important children are diagnosed
early and it is vital that medical | 1:48:30 | 1:48:33 | |
staff are trained so they have a
good understanding of adult ADHD. | 1:48:33 | 1:48:38 | |
We are talking about this because
the ADHD Foundation said they are | 1:48:38 | 1:48:43 | |
writing to the government to say
that diagnosis of children needs to | 1:48:43 | 1:48:47 | |
be speeded up and is as important as
children are being excluded. Before | 1:48:47 | 1:48:51 | |
diagnosis. And it is impacting their
lives. Sarah has Ema but it took | 1:48:51 | 1:48:55 | |
them until her daughter was 15 to
get her diagnosed with ADHD and it | 1:48:55 | 1:49:01 | |
has affected the whole family as
coping with her behaviour was | 1:49:01 | 1:49:04 | |
unbearable at times and they had no
support. Thank you very much for | 1:49:04 | 1:49:08 | |
those. Thank you. | 1:49:08 | 1:49:10 | |
Earlier on the programme we told
you about the collapse of Toys R Us. | 1:49:10 | 1:49:13 | |
Now we have news about another high
street retailer Maplin. | 1:49:13 | 1:49:16 | |
Simon Gompertz is back with us. | 1:49:16 | 1:49:19 | |
Sorry! Bearer of bad news this
morning. Maplin has also said that | 1:49:19 | 1:49:28 | |
they have gone into administration,
that's the every day way of saying | 1:49:28 | 1:49:34 | |
they have gone bust. Efforts to save
it as the existing company have | 1:49:34 | 1:49:38 | |
failed. Nobody has come in to say
that they want to own it or buy it | 1:49:38 | 1:49:42 | |
as the existing company. It doesn't
mean that hope has ended. The | 1:49:42 | 1:49:46 | |
accountants will come in to run it
and they will also try and sell off | 1:49:46 | 1:49:50 | |
bits of the business to see if they
can keep those going and if they can | 1:49:50 | 1:49:54 | |
raise money for the creditors. It
doesn't necessarily mean that | 1:49:54 | 1:49:58 | |
everything closes. That's the
situation at the moment. Hopefully | 1:49:58 | 1:50:03 | |
the 2500 employees of Maplin have a
future, or some of them do but we | 1:50:03 | 1:50:10 | |
will not know until the accountants
have their knees under the table and | 1:50:10 | 1:50:14 | |
try and see what they can do with
the business. The optimistic side of | 1:50:14 | 1:50:17 | |
it is that there were some people
hovering around, looking to see | 1:50:17 | 1:50:20 | |
whether they may be interested in
buying the business. It does have | 1:50:20 | 1:50:25 | |
attractions. It is the only
electronics retailer doing it sort | 1:50:25 | 1:50:28 | |
of thing on a wide scale around the
UK so it does have that value. | 1:50:28 | 1:50:33 | |
Sometimes, they wait. The people who
are interested, in till the company | 1:50:33 | 1:50:37 | |
goes bust and then they buy the bits
that they want. Simon, thank you. | 1:50:37 | 1:50:45 | |
The police officer in charge of
catching Britain's paedophiles, | 1:50:47 | 1:50:52 | |
Simon Bailey, has told us that there
are potentially 20,000 paedophiles | 1:50:52 | 1:50:57 | |
operating in Britain. If you look at
increasing numbers of reports and | 1:50:57 | 1:51:01 | |
crimes we are recording, whilst I am
certain that victim confidence is | 1:51:01 | 1:51:04 | |
having a lock to do with that
increase, I cannot help but think | 1:51:04 | 1:51:08 | |
that volumes of levels of abuse are
increasing and I think so much of | 1:51:08 | 1:51:13 | |
this is being driven by the World
Wide Web, and if you look at the | 1:51:13 | 1:51:17 | |
action at law enforcement is taking
place across the country, targeting | 1:51:17 | 1:51:22 | |
those people that are viewing
indecent images of children, we are | 1:51:22 | 1:51:27 | |
arresting 430 men every month. We
are safeguarding 700 children every | 1:51:27 | 1:51:31 | |
month. That is just for those
offenders viewing indecent images, | 1:51:31 | 1:51:35 | |
it does not take into consideration
what I believe the tens of thousands | 1:51:35 | 1:51:40 | |
of men predominantly going online to
green children so they provide them | 1:51:40 | 1:51:44 | |
with a sexualised image, or they
encourage them to perform a sex act | 1:51:44 | 1:51:48 | |
or alternatively they tried to meet
them to then rape them. | 1:51:48 | 1:51:53 | |
Unfortunately, I think we have to
look at it from a societal | 1:51:53 | 1:52:00 | |
perspective and we have two now
consider that there are more | 1:52:00 | 1:52:03 | |
opportunities to abuse, and that
could be on the increase. How many | 1:52:03 | 1:52:07 | |
potential child abusers do you think
there are in Britain? On the is | 1:52:07 | 1:52:13 | |
difficult to put a number on it and
I think it would potentially be | 1:52:13 | 1:52:17 | |
unhelpful. Sorry to interrupt,
you've said you are arresting 438 | 1:52:17 | 1:52:21 | |
men every month. And that is just
for viewing indecent images? That is | 1:52:21 | 1:52:27 | |
correct, I think we have to accept
that there are tens of thousands. | 1:52:27 | 1:52:30 | |
But the most important thing from my
perspective is that unfortunately | 1:52:30 | 1:52:36 | |
the focus has been on the police
service and what I believe has been | 1:52:36 | 1:52:40 | |
a very strong response to the thread
but ultimately, Victoria, every time | 1:52:40 | 1:52:43 | |
we make an arrest, the damage has
already been done and we have to | 1:52:43 | 1:52:49 | |
look at how we can prevent the abuse
in the first | 1:52:49 | 1:52:59 | |
in the first place | 1:53:01 | 1:53:01 | |
Let's cross to Central London
where the Meghan Markle | 1:53:01 | 1:53:03 | |
is with her fiance Prince Harry
alongside the Duke and Duchess of | 1:53:03 | 1:53:06 | |
Cambridge for their their official
engagement together. | 1:53:06 | 1:53:08 | |
the Royal family have always
dedicated a substantial part of | 1:53:08 | 1:53:10 | |
their working life to charity and
The Royal Foundation is a | 1:53:10 | 1:53:12 | |
continuation of this tradition. From
the outset the principals wanted to | 1:53:12 | 1:53:15 | |
work in a way that would enable them
to have as big an impact as possible | 1:53:15 | 1:53:19 | |
so that they could change mindsets
and make a lasting difference. Now, | 1:53:19 | 1:53:23 | |
to tell us more about this approach,
please welcome his Royal Highness | 1:53:23 | 1:53:26 | |
the Duke of Cambridge. APPLAUSE
Tina, thank you. Good morning | 1:53:26 | 1:53:37 | |
everybody. Catherine, Harry and I
are delighted to be here this | 1:53:37 | 1:53:44 | |
morning and we are particularly
happy. It has been our first Royal | 1:53:44 | 1:53:47 | |
foundation event with Meghan.
APPLAUSE | 1:53:47 | 1:53:55 | |
Today, it's a very special day for
us. Since 2011, when we established | 1:53:55 | 1:54:01 | |
the foundation, we have regularly
brought people together under the | 1:54:01 | 1:54:04 | |
banners of coach call, United For
Wildlife, Heads Together, the | 1:54:04 | 1:54:13 | |
Endeavour Fund and full effect. What
we have never done is bring all of | 1:54:13 | 1:54:18 | |
our friends and partners and
supporters together as part of The | 1:54:18 | 1:54:22 | |
Royal Foundation family. We want to
reflect on what we have built with | 1:54:22 | 1:54:26 | |
all of you. Ten years ago, Harry and
I were still serving full-time in | 1:54:26 | 1:54:30 | |
the military. But we were starting
to look to the next stages of our | 1:54:30 | 1:54:34 | |
lives. As we discussed together, the
best way to set out on our official | 1:54:34 | 1:54:40 | |
work. We looked at the values our
family had instilled in us. Both of | 1:54:40 | 1:54:46 | |
our parents had provided for us
examples of diligence, compassion | 1:54:46 | 1:54:50 | |
and duty in order that they did. Our
grandparents, the Queen and the Duke | 1:54:50 | 1:54:57 | |
of Edinburgh made support for
Charity central to their decades of | 1:54:57 | 1:55:00 | |
service to the nation and
Commonwealth. The task force would | 1:55:00 | 1:55:04 | |
not be to reinvent the wheel, but
instead our job was to follow the | 1:55:04 | 1:55:08 | |
example of those who had come before
us. Hold on to the values that had | 1:55:08 | 1:55:13 | |
always guided our family but seek to
engage in public life in a way that | 1:55:13 | 1:55:17 | |
was updated and relevant for our
generation. We are aware that the | 1:55:17 | 1:55:24 | |
modern charity sector was different
to the one that previous generations | 1:55:24 | 1:55:27 | |
had worked alongside. The generosity
of the British people and the | 1:55:27 | 1:55:31 | |
entrepreneurial and creative passion
that is at the heart of our | 1:55:31 | 1:55:35 | |
communities has seen the number of
charities grow from a few thousand | 1:55:35 | 1:55:39 | |
in the 1950s to around 180,000
today. Social media was changing the | 1:55:39 | 1:55:47 | |
weather people engaged in issues,
making it easier to campaign than | 1:55:47 | 1:55:50 | |
ever before. And engaging young
people in new and exciting ways. The | 1:55:50 | 1:55:57 | |
diversity of our society was
creating huge opportunities to get | 1:55:57 | 1:56:00 | |
people from all walks of life
involved in tackling important | 1:56:00 | 1:56:03 | |
challenges. To provide the
meaningful leadership and support of | 1:56:03 | 1:56:08 | |
the sector our parents and
grandparents had, we would need to | 1:56:08 | 1:56:12 | |
think about our roles in a different
way. We approached the answer to | 1:56:12 | 1:56:17 | |
this question by establishing The
Royal Foundation. Our own foundation | 1:56:17 | 1:56:22 | |
which would help us explore big
issues that were close to our | 1:56:22 | 1:56:25 | |
hearts. When Katherine joined after
our wedding in 2011, we discussed | 1:56:25 | 1:56:32 | |
what made the Royal family different
to other institutions was its | 1:56:32 | 1:56:36 | |
ability to focus on the long-term.
In an age where our pressures seem | 1:56:36 | 1:56:42 | |
so urgent, our attention span is so
short. Our foundation can look | 1:56:42 | 1:56:47 | |
beyond the horizon. We got the
chance to work with experts to not | 1:56:47 | 1:56:53 | |
just raise awareness about issues
but do be much harder work of truly | 1:56:53 | 1:56:56 | |
changing mindsets. We strive to make
a real and lasting difference. And | 1:56:56 | 1:57:06 | |
we seek to make that difference in
areas that are traditionally | 1:57:06 | 1:57:09 | |
considered difficult to make an
impact in. What we have learned is | 1:57:09 | 1:57:16 | |
that you make this difference we
have to be clear and disciplined | 1:57:16 | 1:57:18 | |
about how we seek to provide
leadership. What would make our | 1:57:18 | 1:57:22 | |
foundation unique would be its
ability to make a difference by | 1:57:22 | 1:57:26 | |
bringing people together. There are
foundations are there doing amazing | 1:57:26 | 1:57:34 | |
work, but we believed that we could
help achieve big, positive, | 1:57:34 | 1:57:40 | |
long-term changes by being the
leading convening force in the | 1:57:40 | 1:57:43 | |
charitable sector. We are not trying
to do things on our own. We build | 1:57:43 | 1:57:49 | |
our foundation with an open door. We
are not just relying on our own | 1:57:49 | 1:57:55 | |
ideas. We invite the best and the
brightest to sit with us around the | 1:57:55 | 1:57:58 | |
table. We are not celebrating
individual successes, but we build | 1:57:58 | 1:58:04 | |
teams and partnerships for
collective victories, and we lead by | 1:58:04 | 1:58:11 | |
example by working across our
generation as a family. We have been | 1:58:11 | 1:58:16 | |
quiet in terms of talking about The
Royal Foundation... STUDIO: That | 1:58:16 | 1:58:20 | |
news conference continues, the
reaction to it on the news channel. | 1:58:20 | 1:58:24 | |
Coming up, a special on the most
pressing issues of our time, | 1:58:24 | 1:58:28 | |
dementia. Join us then | 1:58:28 | 1:58:30 |
A senior police officer tells Victoria there are potentially 20,000 paedophiles operating in the UK and discusses the current danger to children from sexual abuse. As the severe weather grips most of the country, rough sleepers tell us what it is like to be on the streets in freezing conditions. Plus a new report claims most cannabis being sold illegally in the UK is super-strength skunk - we hear from one former user.