01/03/2018 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello.

It's Thursday.

It's 9 o'clock.

I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

Welcome to the programme.

Our top story today: Hundreds

of drivers have spent

the night stranded in snow

on the M80 in central Scotland

with more snow expected right

across the UK today.

We are in the car and we are warm.

There is nothing to look at. It is

like a car park. Everybody is trying

to sleep, I think. There aren't many

lights on.

We'll be looking at extra

payments people living

in fuel poverty can claim

during the cold weather.

Also this morning: It's one

of the most pressing

issues of our time.

Dementia.

This morning

we reveal new figures showing

1.3 million people will be living

with it in the UK by 2036.

I now prefer to email or text. When

I type it is as though dementia has

never entered my life.

This morning

we will be joined by this group of

people who all live with dementia or

are professionals working in the

field. If you have this condition,

we definitely want to hear from you

this morning. Please get in touch in

the usual ways.

And the Home Office says

it is considering allowing a medical

cannabis trial to treat

a six-year-old boy with

a rare form of epilepsy.

We'll speak to Alfie

Dingley's parents before

the end of the programme.

Hello and

welcome to the programme.

We're live until 11am.

Really keen to hear

from you about your experience

of living with dementia this morning

or if you care for someone who does.

Please do get in touch

and if you're happy to speak on air

we'll try and get you on before

the end of the programme.

Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE.

You can message us on Facebook.

Our top story today:

The Met Office has issued

a second red alert for snow,

this time for South Wales

and South West England.

This red warning means the extreme

weather poses a real risk to life.

In Scotland, hundreds of drivers

have spent the night stranded

on snowbound motorways.

Some were stuck for

more than 15 hours.

Others have been stranded overnight

near Skegness in Lincolnshire

where police say even snowploughs

can't get through and military

vehicles have been deployed.

Let's get the latest

from our correspondents.

Catriona Renton is in Glasgow.

Good morning. It is really cold

here. You can probably see the

powdery snow floating by behind us

but it is really cold and it is very

quiet. Because of the snow, of

course. People have heeded the

warning this morning and there is

very little traffic on the roads.

The people stranded overnight,

people are doing their best to sort

out that situation. People were

stranded at Glasgow airport

overnight and the airport is hoping

to open at three o'clock this

afternoon. Two thirds of schools in

Scotland are closed today, I

understand. Again that is tens of

thousands of children that will have

the day off school. More to tell you

about the red warning that we are in

the middle of hearing Glasgow. --

here in Glasgow. It is in central

and southern Scotland at the moment

and it is due to be called off at

ten o'clock this morning but there

is still an amber weather warning

for much of the day until six

o'clock tonight. We are told not to

get too hopeful than either because

the forecast until the weekend is

for pretty bad weather, if not as

bad as it is now. People are bracing

themselves and hunkering down.

Really it is a day to stay in the

house and keep warm if you possibly

can. My colleague John Kay is in

Truro.

I feel your pain. Good

morning from Cornwall. A lot of

people woke up in the south of

England in Southland midway of this

morning and looked out of the window

and thought it wasn't too bad.

Powdery snow falling but what is all

the fuss about? Maybe we shouldn't

have closed all the shops and

businesses and schools and doctors

surgeries. But in the last few

minutes the latest warning has come

from the Met Office to say that they

still believe this will be a very

bad storm in this part of the

country. They have issued this red

alert, the most severe warning, for

a sliver that goes from South Wales

through Cardiff across the Bristol

channel and into northern Somerset,

Weston-Super-Mare, into Somerset

itself, across Exmoor and Dartmoor

and into Devon. That bright red zone

that you will see on the maps that

we have already seen in Scotland.

Not just heavy snowfall but also

high winds. Emma Storm is coming

from the Bay of this gate across the

south. -- survey of Biscay. It means

high winds and drifting conditions,

blizzards. The question is working

out where that will happen. In this

part of the country there are remote

rural communities and keeping roads

open in those areas will basically

be impossible. They are having to

prioritise to work out which routes

they can keep running. In most

places it is a little bit of dusty

snow right now but it will get much

heavier as the day goes on and into

the evening and then again tomorrow

and potentially into tomorrow night

as well. That is what they are

worried about, not just the instant

snowfall, but the accumulation over

hours and hours. It is the first red

warning for snow that I can remember

in Devon and parts of Somerset over

the last few years. We have had read

warnings for flooding, notoriously

four years ago, but it is the first

one that level for snow, I think.

That is the situation in the

south-west of England. Let's go to

Phil Bodmer in Yarm in north

Yorkshire. Good morning. The snow in

the North East is falling thick and

fast. You can see just how much

there is on this car. That shows you

the level of snow that we have had.

Police in north Yorkshire are

warning drivers not to travel if at

all possible. Driving conditions on

many routes are abysmal. The A66

Scotch corner is closed currently.

Lincolnshire Police say drivers are

being warned not to travel if they

don't have to. Pretty much every

road throughout the county is

impassable and gritters and snow

ploughs have been out all morning.

In Yarm itself the main centre is

clear and perhaps you can see on

that shot that the road is clear.

Snow ploughs and gritters have been

through all morning. Leeds Bradford

Airport has cancellations this

morning and there are problems on

the railways as elsewhere in the

country. If you are setting out

today, the advice is to take time,

make sure you are prepared, take

extra clothing and a blanket if you

can and be prepared for a longer

journey than normal. Thank you. We

will keep you updated with the

latest situation throughout the

morning and a full weather forecast

for you just before ten o'clock. Now

the rest of the news with Annita

McVeigh. Good morning.

Theresa May will meet Donald Tusk

for a working lunch this morning.

Tomorrow she is expected to release

more detail of her vision for

Britain's future relationship with

the EU. Independent inquiry into

child sexual abuse will publish its

first completed report this morning.

The findings will focus on the

forced migration and abuse of

thousands of children, many of whom

were in care, who was sent to

Australia, New Zealand, Canada and

Africa following the Second World

War. The British and Australian

governments have apologised but

today's report is likely to condemn

the programme and highlights the

failure to detect and prevent the

abuse.

The Home Office says

it is considering allowing a medical

cannabis trial to treat

a six-year-old boy with

a rare form of epilepsy.

It previously turned down requests

by the family of Alfie Dingley,

from Warwickshire,

to legally take the drug.

But now ministers say

they are exploring every option,

following a meeting with the family.

An option could be a three-month

trial, led by Alfie's doctors

and based on sufficient

and rigorous evidence.

For the first time acid

is described as a highly

dangerous weapon --

in new sentencing guidelines.

The advice for judges

and magistrates

in England and Wales has

been updated in the wake

of a surge in attacks

using corrosive substances.

Offenders are now likely

to face stiffer penalties.

The American retail

giant Walmart says it

will tighten its policy on firearms

sales as Donald Trump tells

Congress it's time to act.

The President stunned

some politicians

in his own Republican party

by telling them on live TV not to be

so afraid of the pro-gun lobby.

He said he wanted what he called

a strong reform bill

but stuck by his suggestion

of arming some teachers.

Spotify,

the world's largest music streaming

service has filed paperwork to start

trading its shares

on the New York Stock Exchange.

The Swedish company

which has a database

of 30 million songs will

undertake what's known

as a direct listing letting

investors and employees sell

shares without needing

an intermediary.

Spotify - which launched in 2008 -

now has over seventy

one million paying subscribers,

with even more using their free

advertisement supported service.

Shoppers have until

midnight tonight to spend

paper ten-pound notes featuring

Charles Dickens before

they cease to be legal tender.

The Bank of England says

there are still 200 million

of them in circulation.

They have been phased out

since last September

and replaced by polymer notes

depicting Jane Austen.

And finally there were 11 wins

for the BBC's journalism at

the Royal Television Society Awards

last night including not one

but two awards for this programme.

Victoria Derbyshire was named

Network Presenter of the Year

and she also picked up the gong

for best interview of the year,

for football abuse.

Congratulations, Victoria. Thank

you. I want to thank you for

following coverage of our stories on

Facebook and the BBC News website.

We really appreciate your support.

Thank you. We really want you to get

in touch with us this morning if you

have experience of living with

dementia, whether it is yourself or

you care for somebody in your family

or placement with this condition. It

is one of the most pressing issues

of our time. We are talking about it

a lot this morning and we would love

to hear your experience. We want to

talk to you if you are happy to come

on air.

Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE

and if you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate.

(ANI OFF)

Let's get the sport. Eddie Jones has

been talking about the physical and

verbal abuse he experienced. Yes,

England lost to Murrayfield in the

Six Nations championship on

Saturday. He was returning south

from Edinburgh, got an early train

on Sunday morning. He was heading to

Manchester because he was a guest of

Sir Alex Ferguson at the Manchester

United match when they beat Chelsea.

It was on that train, travelling by

himself in standard class, he got a

bit of verbal abuse and he said it

was physical as well. This footage

is when he got off the train and

Manchester Oxford Road, surrounded

by Scotland fans, who harangued him

on the way to the taxi. We have

taken out some of the swearing.

SHOUTING AND CHEERING. He says that

is it. He said he always liked

taking selfies and engaging with

fans but he will never take public

transport again after that incident.

He also pointed to the comments

before the match from former

international Gavin Hastings, one of

the Scotland prop is, talking about

hating the English. He says that

incites certain behaviour and that

ties in. The Scottish rugby union I

appalled by the verbal abuse

suffered by Eddie Jones and the

disgusting behaviour of those

involved. They say it does not

represent the values of the sport

and the fans. The dignity Eddie and

the team showed on Saturday is in

stark contrast to this ugly

incident. We hope not to see that

again. Of course Eddie Jones

deciding he can't be seen like that

in public again. There were lots of

goals at Wembley in the FA Cup last

night and people talking about the

video assistant referee again. Yes,

Spurs manager Mauricio Pochettino

called it embarrassing. This was the

fifth round replay against League

One Rochdale. Spurs comfortable

winners in the end but the first

half was one VAR decision after

another. The referee, Paul Tierney,

the boys in his head Graham stopped,

the VAR for the night. The match was

so stop and start. There was a

penalty awarded with VAR and then

ruled out and VAR used again for

that. Five minutes added on at the

end of the first half for all those

delays. Is that really good for the

game? Here is the Spurs manager.

I

think we have the best referees in

Europe or in the world and the

referees are so good. But I don't

know if this system will help them

or create more confusion.

or create more confusion. If you

watched this half, more confusion

than help. Football is the context

of emotion and if we are going to

kill this emotion I think we are

going to change the game.

Mauricio

Pochettino was quite measured there.

He would have been angrier if they

had lost because it was 1-1 at

half-time. Then the snow fell and

Spurs raced away with it. Fernando

Llorente scored a hat-trick in 12

minutes. The perfect hat-trick,

right foot, left foot, head. Spurs

won 6-1 and they are into the

quarterfinals and they will play

Swansea. And at the world cycling,

we have another medal from the

Kennys. We were looking forward to

seeing them in action in the

Netherlands. Six months after having

a baby, Laura Kenny helped the women

qualify second greatest for the team

pursuit. There could be a medal

later. Jason Kenny got the silver in

the team spirit. He had an 18 month

lay-off after the Olympics and he

thought about retiring. That was

back in 2016. But they came second

to the Netherlands. Another medal

round his neck. I will be back with

the headlines in the next half an

hour.

hour. We are talking about one of

the most pressing issues of our

time, dementia.

Dementia is caused when the brain is

affected by diseases and can include

symptoms like memory loss,

difficulty speaking of thinking. By

the middle of this century, 1.3

million people will be living at

home with dementia in this country.

According to new figures seen by

this programme. Alzheimer's is a

form of dementia and the Alzheimer's

Society expects the number to double

by 2036 and to keep on rising as the

population gets older and treatments

improve.

Later this year, the Government will

set out how to pay for social care

in our old age.

Three years ago, we gave video

cameras to three people with

dementia. We have gone back to them

and asked them to do the same again.

They are here with us this morning

along with others living with

dementia, some of their relatives

and those who care for people with

the disease. We will talk about what

it is like to live with dementia and

how we as a country can best pay the

care and those living with this

challenging disease.

First, here is a film they have made

for you.

To my mind, my way of thinking...

You happen to take any positive you

can to having such a cruel disease.

In 2040 quack -- In 2014, we gave

video cameras to three people

recently diagnosed with dementia.

What are we looking at? It is the

moon, isn't it?

Three years later, we asked them to

look back at what has changed in

that time.

That is you talking. Yes.

This is the story of what it is like

to live with Alzheimer's disease,

from the minds of the people most

affected.

Wendy Mitchell was diagnosed with

Alzheimer's at just 57, in 2013.

In her first set of video diaries

three years ago, she was still

working as an NHS administrator.

This is where I had my first

experience of what dementia can do

to your brain. I came out of my

office and I didn't have a clue

where I was. I decided to walk away

and down the corridor, hoping that

no one would come out and notice

there was something wrong. And so I

went through the end door and into

the wash room. Because that was the

only door that was a locked door.

It showed someone at an earlier

stage, someone left -- less hesitant

than I am now, and simply talking

normally.

normally. Whereas now I have to

think more about the words that are

coming out of my mouth.

Wendy had to give up work earlier

than she really wanted, she moved

from a town house in York to a small

village near one of her daughters.

When I moved, all the houses looked

the same, and I would get confused

as to which one I lived at. I would

constantly walk up my neighbour's

path.

So, to make it clear which house was

my house, I simply put the -- Put

forget-me-not tiles each side of my

door, to show me which one was mine.

I always like it to untangling a

fine necklace. If you are having a

good day, you can sit and untangle

the Notts won by one. If you are

having a bad day, it is like when

you are feeling impatient, and you

simply cannot untangle it and the

more you try, the worse it becomes.

I always tell myself it is not me,

it is the disease. And I simply sit

quietly and wait for the fog to

left.

-- lift.

Yes, I stopped answering the phone,

I don't know, properly a year or

more.

When I answered it, people can't see

me, so they can't see me thinking. I

now prefer to e-mail or text. When I

type, it is as though dementia has

never entered my life because that

part of me isn't broken yet.

If you are going to give one piece

of advice to someone who has just

been diagnosed with dementia, what

would it be?

I always think of it as, yes, it is

definitely a bad diagnosis to get

but if you can think of it as a

different life, a life of adapting

to the challenges that dementia

throws at you, then it can still be

filled with laughter and adventures

and almost a new way of living.

It was the most amazing experience

because I have no fear anymore. I

always think I face my biggest fear

by facing dementia.

Keith Oliver was diagnosed with

Alzheimer's in 2010. In the first

set of video diaries he filmed for

us he had just retired as a head

teacher in Canterbury.

For some time I have struggled to a

member by that I have cleaned my

teeth, shade, combed my head in the

morning when I get up. So what I now

do is I put everything out of the

box, use it and as I have used it

plays it back in the box again.

I have changed in some ways and some

of those changes have been brought

on by dementia. I see the same

person who physically looks like me,

who is saying the things I was

saying at the time, and I still

believe in. But now I feel less able

to express myself as well as I did

then.

It is a lovely walk, this, along the

beach, and then around the harbour.

I get such a lot from it. It gives

me time to think, to contemplate, to

try to sort something out in my mind

that are bothering me. Watching

these boats rocking in the water

reminds me of how some days it is

for me walking and standing and

trying to keep my balance.

Any experience of dementia I have

sometimes brought on by being

depressed, by being isolated, being

lonely, frustrated. They are the

best friends of each other. Dementia

and depression are big allies and

the only way dealing with that is

through support, people coming into

my world to help me.

Books have always been important in

my life, for relaxation, learning. I

am a hoarder of books.

am a hoarder of books. Here is one

that I read a couple of years ago

about something very close to my

heart which is Nottingham Forest.

Reading the books 30 years later

brings back those memories that I

have of those happy days.

It is getting harder. I read a lot

but remember very little. I even

don't remember what books I bought,

there are occasions I go into a book

shop and I have bought the book home

and realised at home I have read it

before.

Some days I will use the metaphor of

the weather, some days are faulty

and even within those foggy days it

is like driving in fog, the fog

comes down and it lifts, it is

patchy. That is what dementia is

often like. Even today, I am

experiencing that talking to you.

Some of my charity of thinking is

coming and going as I am sitting

here now, talking and thinking about

today.

today. I have lost my train of

thought, you will have to ask me

that again.

Last time around I finished the

interview asking if you would

remember our conversation, will you

remember this conversation?

Again, the same answer, I will

remember how this conversation made

me feel. The actual subject matter,

no, I won't.

Christopher has been living with

Alzheimer's for more than a decade

now.

now. His wife Veronica filmed this

first set of video diaries outside

their home in Dorset three years

ago.

At some point, it hit you over

there, that is when you have to

decide what to do.

Yes, you had to

cope.

There is ask, do you recognise us?

You are looking rather severe, like

a magistrate! That is you talking.

Yes, I mean, everything has changed.

It is so sad. But you mustn't dwell

on that because otherwise you would

be sad all the time and I mustn't be

sad to you because you are positive.

What has changed, do you feel

different?

Yes.

And you know you still have

lots of feelings although you may

not be able to put it into words

like you used to.

We are on the quay Paul harbour,

sitting in the sunshine -- Poole.

And Christopher is having fish and

chips.

It is not the easiest thing to eat.

We are now in the car. The seat belt

is always a bit of a mystery, put

your belt on, darling. Can you put

your belt on? Put your belt on.

Your belt.

Your belt. Here, that is right. That

is right. Like everything, this gets

forgotten every single time.

Well done, you have done it.

Without that disabled badge?

Life would be a lot more stressful,

yes. When we first got the blue

badge, I was a little bit feeling,

it says disabled on it, and

Christopher doesn't look disabled,

so I was sort of half thinking

somebody might one day a cost us,

which happened. You are not

disabled, this man said, as we were

parking. So I left Christopher on

the pavement and I trotted down the

pavement and I said to that, repeat

that. And I said it louder, very

slowly he mumbled, you are not

disabled. You change places with me

24 hours Hutcheon for 24 hours --

you change places with me for 24

hours.

Don't take it, darling, drink it,

careful.

It is hot.

That is your tea.

That is right.

Are you a caper that? Are you happy,

darling, I am asking if you are

happy? I don't think you frustrated.

Sometimes I think he is frustrated,

yes. Sometimes you get cross. Not

often.

All you basically happy?

Yes. Yes, I think you are.

This is one of the things I am

deeply sad because I don't have a

name. What I called? And he laughs,

and he says, what did you say? What

am I called? Are you going to have

another go? What am I called?

I

can't remember.

The fact that Christopher's speech

is clearly not what it was, I mean,

speech and communication...

It is

lonely, yes. It is quite lonely. But

then he doesn't realise that. So

it's not as though you are living

with somebody who is doing something

to make you feel like that. It's not

like that at all. You see, there is

definitely interaction and feeling.

That hasn't gone. If I say I love

you. Do you love me? Do you love me?

Am I getting too close? Go on, kiss

me. Yes.

me. Yes.

Wow. Gosh. With us now is

an audience including some of the

people that you saw in that film and

there is a mixture of emotion in

this room, I think. There are some

people wiping their eyes because

they had tears in their eyes.

Veronica, you have tears in your

eyes but you also smiling, as is

Christopher. Hello, Christopher.

Thank you so much for coming on the

programme again. How do you react to

what you have seen? I don't mind who

speaks first.

I rally watch myself

on the television now. -- I've

rarely watched myself recently. It

is always a shock what I see. We

don't have this image of ourselves

in our head which is what I see on

the television.

Were you shocked?

Yes. I never watch myself normally.

And you always tend to think back to

how you were, especially when there

was the comparison with the earlier

film and now. It just brings it home

a little bit more, the changes.

What

is it like for you and Christopher

to watch yourselves then and now?

I

think

think we've filmed some jollier

bits. Those bits are rather

tear-jerking. It isn't as bad as

that, is it question that -- it

isn't as bad as that, is it? We have

a lot of fun. That is where we used

to sail. We get about. We went to

Mexico this summer. Why not?

The

other thing to say as well is that

the film illustrates how different

we all are but how similar we all

are as well. There are certain

things that we said and we have

experienced that are common to all

of us in that film but also the way

we deal with it is an element of

similarity but also different as

well.

Over the course of the

programme we are going to talk about

living with dementia. How we pay for

such care and its impact on the

health service and society in

general. You get in touch through

the programme if you or a family

member has dementia.

Still to come:

How is the cold snap

affecting people that

struggle with their bills?

We'll hear from people affected

by fuel poverty and discuss

what help is on offer.

Our final visit to Hawkswood Primary

Pupil Referral Unit,

as I talk to some of the children

about life at the school

and their hopes for the future.

Time for the latest news.

The BBC News headlines this morning:

The Met Office has issued

a red weather warning

for Devon, Somerset and the southern

half of Wales, meaning imminent

loss of life is possible.

A separate red weather

warning is in place

for Scotland's central belt.

The snow continues to cause

problems across the UK.

Hundreds of schools are closed

in south Wales, southern

England and Scotland.

Our reporter John Kay

sent us this from Truro.

The latest warning has come from the

Met Office saying that they still

believe this is going to be a very

bad storm in this part of the

country. They have issued this red

alert, severe, the most severe

warning, a red warning for a sliver

that goes from south Wales to

Cardiff, across the Bristol channel,

through North Somerset,

Weston-Super-Mare, down through some

assert itself, across Exmoor and

Dartmoor and into Devon. That bright

red zone that you will see on the

maps all day.

maps all day.

In Scotland hundreds

of people have been trapped in their

cars on the M18 a Glasgow. Some

attract for 15 hours. Others have

been stranded in Lincolnshire and

forecasters are warning of snow to

come across the UK. Where the red

alerts remain in force, people are

advised not to venture out. In other

news: The President of the EU

Council Donald Tusk has warned UK

can't have trade with the EU if it

is outside the single market and

customs union. The warning comes

following the publication of the

EU's draft withdrawal treaty. The

independent inquiry into child

sexual abuse will publish its first

completed report this morning. The

findings will focus on the forced

migration and abuse of thousands of

children, many of whom were in care,

who were sent to Australia, New

Zealand, Canada and Africa following

the Second World War. The British

and Australian governments have

apologised but today's report is

likely to condemn the programme and

highlights the failure to protect

and prevent the abuse.

and prevent the abuse. This

programme has discovered new figures

which underscores the scale of

suffering of those living with

dementia.

The Home Office says

it is considering allowing a medical

cannabis trial to treat

a six-year-old boy with

a rare form of epilepsy.

It previously turned down requests

by the family of Alfie Dingley,

from Warwickshire,

to legally take the drug.

But now ministers say

they are exploring every option,

following a meeting with the family.

An option could be a three-month

trial, led by Alfie's doctors

and based on sufficient

and rigorous evidence.

The American retail

giant Walmart says it

will tighten its policy on firearms

sales as Donald Trump tells

Congress it's time to act.

The President stunned

some politicians

in his own Republican Party

by telling them on live TV not to be

so afraid of the pro-gun lobby.

He said he wanted what he called

a strong reform bill

but stuck by his suggestion

of arming some teachers.

There were 11 wins for

the BBC's journalism at

the Royal Television Society Awards

last night including two

awards for this programme.

Victoria Derbyshire

was named Network Presenter

of the Year and she also picked up

the gong for best interview

of the year for football abuse.

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

Thank you for your messages about

dementia. This email from Mark: I

look after my mum who was diagnosed

with outsiders several years ago.

The council have been a huge help

but I have experienced the whole

calyx of life in the modern world in

the UK which breaks down when it

comes to dementia. I have difficulty

proving my mother's identity,

visiting her, connecting different

care services together. I keep

getting referred to online help and

even after expelling to people that

my mother has Alzheimer's, they

still try and ask her memory

questions. I care for my mum because

it is a pleasure but it hurts that

there is little recognition in even

things like tax codes that

recognises that in fact looking

after a person with advanced

dementia is a far more stressful and

training thing than looking after

children. Catherine says: I am one

of the lucky ones. As I am

self-employed and my dad has a

reasonable pension, while we

struggle financially, I am able to

care for my dad myself. Both my

parents had dementia and I care for

them both, starting in 2012, until

my darling man passed away in 2015.

I am 54 and single. -- my darling

mother passed away in 2015. I love

them more than I can say. We now

live with my dad. The problem is

unless you have the money, it is a

lottery and the social care system

is broken. My heart breaks for those

without family for whom life with

dementia must be unbearable. We are

going to talk about some of those

specific issues, the fractured

health and social care system, and

the difficulty in getting outside

help after ten o'clock this morning.

Please continue to send your own

experiences. Sent us an email. You

can message us on Facebook and

Whatsapp as well. Now we have more

sport. Hello. The headlines: The

England rugby union head coach Eddie

Jones said he was physically and

verbally abused returning by train

from the Kolkata defeat to Scotland

at the weekend. This is footage of

him being harangued at Manchester

Oxford road train station. --

Calcutta Cup defeat. The Scottish

union said it is disgusted and

appalled. Eddie Jones said he will

not take public transport again.

Manchester United beat Rochdale 6-1

-- Tottenham Hotspur beat Rochdale

6-1 and will now play Swansea in the

quarterfinals. Andy Murray could be

back in the practice court that the

end of this month. As since is time

Olympic champion Jason Kenny won

silver in the team sprint at the

track cycling World Championships in

the Netherlands. His wife Laura will

be bidding for a medal in the team

pursuit later today. I will be back

after ten o'clock. Thank you.

Hundreds of drivers have spent

the night stranded in snow

on the M80 and adjoining motorways

in central Scotland.

Some have been stuck

for more than 15 hours.

Others have

been stranded overnight

near Skegness in Lincolnshire

and forecasters are warning of more

snow to come across many parts

of the UK.

Yesterday, we invited Bryan,

a homeless man living

on the streets of central London

for 18 years, into our studio.

This was him yesterday

afternoon as snow continued

to fall in the capital.

He told us he'd worken up yesterday

morning with one inch

of snow all over him.

He was also incredibly grateful

for all your messages

of support you sent him.

We will keep in touch with him.

Many people living

at home struggle too.

One in ten people in England

live in fuel poverty.

That's where the amount a household

pays for fuel leaves them

below the poverty line.

When weather drops below a certain

level it triggers extra payments

for people claiming some benefits.

But many don't know about it

and therefore don't claim.

Who is entitled?

You have to be over 65

and also qualify for pension

credit.

How much?

You get up to £300,

depending on age.

How to claim.

Most get it automatically.

Some have to claim.

For details, see gov.uk/

WinterFuelPayment.

Cold weather payments.

Let's talk to Jodie Hullah,

a mum of a 19-month-old,

who sometimes can't afford

to heat her home.

Andria Efthimiou has asthma

and ended up being hospitalised

when her home got too cold.

And Ruth London from the charity

Fuel Poverty Action.

Thank you for coming on the

programme. How often do you go

without hot water and heating?

Sometimes it can be two or three

days. Other times it can be longer

and other times shorter. It all

depends what the weather is like and

when I get paid.

Explain why you

have to make the decision to keep

heating and hot water off in certain

periods.

Just because we can't

afford it. I put as much money as I

can onto my meter and sometimes it

is not enough. We ran out of gas and

then we have no hot water is heating

or I have to make the decision

whether Will we be cold during the

day or in the evening.

How does that

affect your 19-month-old?

She gets

body quite a bit. At the moment he

has a cough and cold and it is hard

but there is nothing you can do

about it.

You had to give up work

when you are pregnant because of

various pregnancy issues. You are in

a privately rented flat and

Universal Credit is paid to you and

after rent you are left with £100 a

week for food, gas, electricity,

clothes, anything else your child

needs.

Yes, probably less than that.

The cold weather payment means an

extra £25 for you, what difference

will that make?

I think it means we will get an

extra two days of heating and hot

water.

How do you feel about that?

I don't

know. The situation is there isn't

much do -- much I can do to change

it. It is one of those things you

get on with. You don't have a

choice.

Jodi, I am going to bring in Andria

in the studio. Is your attitude the

same, it is what it is?

Absolutely. You don't even notice

what is happening. For example, my

daughter started coming home from

school and going straight to bed. I

thought she was hiding from me. She

said she was cold. I was really

shocked. Because the me it is called

but you get into a trooper load. I

have had asthma the over 50 years.

-- trooper mode. Even though I have

had to go to casualties because of

my respiratory system, it becomes a

way of life. But this is dangerous.

They wanted to take me in, I was

worried about my daughter.

worried about my daughter. If you're

respiratory rate is at 48, people

have heart attacks. They gave me

some diazepam.

Is that directly

linked to you not putting the

heating on?

Absolutely.

Absolutely. It is tough. But it is

difficult to notice. And knowing

other people are in a more difficult

situation because of money. It is

tragic. Thousands of people are

dying from fuel poverty every year.

Then something is really wrong.

In terms of deaths from cold

weather, we have the latest figures

from 2017, sorry, 2016, over that

winter period.

It was 11,000 last winter. It is

outrageous, it should not be our way

of life that people are dying

because they cannot afford to keep

their homes warm. Some of the Chief

Executive is earn more in their

bonus and most people spend all year

on their energy. It is not

sustainable. There are natural

disasters and unnatural disasters.

Fuel poverty is an unnatural

disaster. People having the cladding

removed, put on their buildings,

because it was not safe, like

Grenfell Tower. Now they are

freezing because they are in tower

blocks with no protection from the

elements.

That was installation.

Cladding and

installation are vital to keeping

homes warm -- insulation. If you

look at the weather now, climate

change is also an unnatural

disaster. If we are going to keep

warm, the other extreme is heat

waves, if we are to survive we need

to address that and the prices

people are paying and the terribly

low levels of income, the fact

people cannot afford to keep their

home one, people on benefits, then

they get sanctioned and had nothing

at all to put in the meter. And you

lose your heat, the food in your

fridge and freezer, your ability to

charge your phone, the things our

daily lives depend on, these are not

things we should say, that is life,

I have to get on with it.

We have to change that.

The

Government would say they are

bringing in environmental measures.

And they would say they will cap

fuel bills which will help.

It has taken a couple of years since

they started talking about it. It

depends how much the cap on energy

bills is. They say energy prices are

about to go up again which could

wipe out the difference. We do want

a cap but it is not a solution.

Energy is much too important to be

left to the fans ripping us off as

the Government has said.

One comment, the Winter Fuel Payment

is positive but not enough, those of

us who are low paid and in work

simply take the hit driving us

further into poverty. It is heat or

eat. For anyone watching now

struggling to keep warm, what is

your advice?

It is hard to give personal advice.

Everyone has thought of the

immediate solution, hot water

bottles, insulating foil behind the

radiators, draught proofing is

important. Make sure you are on the

best tariff you can find. If you are

in debt and struggling to repay,

sometimes you can adjust the rate of

repayment so you are paying a bit

more in summer but less now. There

are little things. But the bigger

things that the individual can't do,

is to deal with the energy crisis,

the benefits sanctions, the low

income, the fundamental cause, lack

of insulation in our homes, bad

boilers, and ultimately climate

change.

Thank you.

Coming up.

How to deal with an ageing

population many of whom have

dementia, a huge rise in people

expected to be living with dementia

in the next years, we will hear from

people living with it.

All this week, we've

brought you an insight

into the work of Hawkswood Primary

pupil referral unit

in north-east London.

It's a place where children

as young as four are taught

when they are in danger

of being permanently excluded

from their mainstream schools.

For our last film this week,

I caught up with some

of the children at lunchtime to talk

about life at the school

and their hopes for the future.

I met seven-year-olds

Logan and Kyan, along

with Andrew who's nine.

So where do we go first?

So we go here.

Come on.

Do you know my favourite fish?

What's your favourite fish.

Tuna, definitely.

Oh!

Hi, guys.

How's it going?

How do you find it

here at the school?

It's a good place.

It helps you to behave.

You get guidance, and Miss Mannakee

is a very good teacher.

Is she?

Yeah.

And she shows tough love.

Tough love.

What does that mean for you,

what does that mean?

Well, tough love means,

um, it's pretty tough,

it's discipline.

If you're being unsafe,

they restrain you.

They restrain you.

Has that ever happened to you?

It has happened a lot of times.

It isn't very nice.

It's not comfortable.

Andrew, are you going back

to mainstream school soon, is

that right?

How do you feel about that.

Well, I feel good, happy that I've

come a long way, and now I'm

going back to mainstream,

because Miss Mannakee has helped me

since I was in year three.

Ah.

Can you remember what

you used to be like?

I used to think I was just bad,

if anyone does a little thing,

sticks their tongue out

of me, I used to flip.

But now I just ignore.

Now I just ignore

and tell the teacher.

I don't fight any more.

And what about you?

Why do you think you used

to get cross or angry, or

anxious?

Every time it was a different

reason, but now I just

feel I made the choice to do it now.

So you make good choices now.

Yeah.

But sometimes I do it a little bit.

Only like a tiny bit.

I don't do a big big reaction.

Logan, what about you?

I used to get restrained so much.

And Andrew, can you remember why

you used to get cross and angry

when you were in your old school?

What do you think was going on?

Um I wanted my own way.

I knew I had anger issues but any

little thing I used to get angry

at.

I didn't know why.

But since I've come

here my behaviour has

improved a lot.

When I mean a lot, I mean a lot.

Yeah?

Brilliant.

If it wasn't for Miss

Mannakee I'd probably

be the same...

Do you feel proud of yourself?

Yeah, but I mostly feel proud

of Miss Mannakee for helping

me.

Ah.

That's a very, very

lovely thing to say.

Very lovely.

How does your mum think

you've got on here?

She's very proud

of me, I've improved.

Wow.

Do you feel calmer as well

now, would you say?

Not with...

You still don't like that...

Do you?

When Miss Mannakee told me

to actually try dinner I actually

liked it.

So that's another thing that

Miss Mannakee helped me with.

Is that Miss Mannakee?

That's Miss Mannakee there.

OK.

Miss Mannakee.

I'm hearing a lot about you.

Yeah.

They are, they are loving

you, I have to say.

Yesterday when I went home,

I heard Mum say, I don't know

how you've dealt with me,

like she doesn't know how

I learned this quick.

Did you explain to Mum how

you managed to learn quickly?

You need to tell me why

you learned quickly.

Because of your tough love.

Because I gave tough

love, and what else?

What did you need to do?

Give up and start crying?

What did you do.

Never give up.

Oh, I love that.

I say that to my kids,

never give up.

So listen.

I'm done.

Look at you eating

your apple, good boy.

Thank you so much for

inviting me for lunch.

It's OK.

Thank you.

It's been really, really

lovely to meet you.

I'm just going to get

some pudding now, would

that be all right?

Miss, please may I go up?

Thank you.

And thank you so much

to the staff and pupils

at Hawkswood Primary School

who opened up their doors to us.

Let's get the latest

weather update with Carole.

It has the potential to be the

coldest day in March in the UK ever?

That is right. As well as that, we

have also got a few weather

warnings.

One which is about to expire across

central Scotland, Tayside and Fife,

but anyone for heavy snow and

blizzards across Devon, Somerset and

South Wales.

We are about to lose the one across

Central Scotland but we still have

amber be prepared in all these areas

including Northern Ireland, for snow

which will be blowing and feeling

bitterly cold.

An amber warning across the

south-west, Hampshire and the south

Coast, for snow and wind but this is

the red one, the top level of

warning the Met Office ever issues.

If you are out, bear that in mind,

there will be some atrocious

conditions with blizzards, blowing

snow, because the wind is gale-force

winds.

Through the morning, we will

continue with the snow, across

southern England, through Wales and

the potential for significant

snowfall across areas in that red

morning, up to 20 centimetres, about

eight inches, plus more than double

that in some areas. Moving

northwards, the risk of another

dangerous element, freezing rain.

We have strong winds, these

temperatures may be what you see on

your thermometer but wait for the

wind chill, it will feel more like

-13 in Birmingham. Wrap up warmly is

the message if you are stepping out

today.

Heading into the evening, we still

have snow across the south-west,

Wales, snow showers across the North

and east, a keen wind, some drier

conditions, the risk of freezing

rain, and a cold night, temperatures

well below freezing.

Tomorrow, a little bit of let up in

amounts of snow but it will still be

snowing, with showers across the

north and east. Through the day,

this snow will drift slowly north

eastwards. Later in the afternoon,

we think the snow will be in a line

from London up to Liverpool Bay and

all points south, with a lot of snow

across central areas. If you are

out, bear that in mind. It will feel

better. For the weekend, it will

still be cold but less in the south.

Nonetheless we are still looking at

the risk of snow, perhaps not as

heavy.

Hello.

It's Thursday.

It's 10 o'clock.

I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

Our top story today -

a second red weather warning has

been issued for heavy snow,

this time for South Wales

and South West England

with more snow expected

across the UK.

It is a little bit of dusty snow

right now that it will get much

heavier as the day goes on and into

the evening and again tomorrow and

potentially into tomorrow night as

well. That is what they are worried

about. Not just the instant snowfall

but the accumulation of hours and

hours.

We will speak to some of you

affected by the weather. And also an

employment lawyer who will tell you

your rights if you can't get to work

because of bad weather. It is a

condition that will affect 1 million

people in the UK by 2036. We look at

the pressures of living at home with

dementia for the individuals and

their loved ones.

What am I called?

Oh. Are you going to have another

go? Tell me what I am called.

I

can't...

You can't remember. You

can't remember what I'm called,

darling.

We will be joined by this

group of people who all live with

dementia or are professionals

working in the field. If you care

for a relative with this condition

we definitely want to hear from you

this morning. Please get in touch in

the usual ways. The Home Office

considering allowing a medical

cannabis trial to treat a

six-year-old boy with a rare form of

epilepsy.

We'll speak to Alfie Dingley's

parents before the end of the show.

Here is the latest BBC News with

Annita McVeigh. Good morning.

The Met Office has issued

a red weather warning

for Devon, Somerset and the southern

half of Wales meaning imminent

loss of life is possible.

A separate red weather

warning is in place

for Scotland's central belt.

The snow continues to cause

problems across the UK.

Hundreds of schools are closed

in south Wales, southern

England and Scotland.

Phil Bodmer is in Yarm

in North Yorkshire.

The snow here in the North East is

falling thick and fast. You can see

how much there is on this car, and

that just shows you the level of

snow we have had. Police in north

Yorkshire are warning drivers not to

travel if at all possible. They say

driving conditions on many routes

are abysmal and the A66 that Scotch

Corner is closed currently.

Lincolnshire Police say once again

drivers are being warned not to

travel if they don't have to because

pretty much every road throughout

the county is impassable.

Gritters and snow ploughs have been

out all morning. In Yarm itself, the

main centre is clear. You can see on

the top shot now that the road is

clear. Snow ploughs and gritters

have been through all morning. Leeds

Bradford Airport has some

cancellations this morning and there

are problems on the railways as

elsewhere in the country. If you are

setting out today, the advisers to

take time. Make sure you are

prepared and take extra clothing a

blanket if you can and be prepared

for a longer journey than usual.

Thousands of people in Scotland have

been trapped in cars in Scotland

overnight on the M80 in Glasgow.

Some were trapped for 15 hours.

Others have been stranded near

Skegness in Lincolnshire and

forecasters are warning of more snow

to come across many parts of the UK.

Where the red alerts remain in

place, people are advised not to

venture out. In other news: The

President of the EU Council, Donald

Tusk, has warned UK can't have

frictionless trade with EU European

Union if it is outside the market

and single -- customs union and

single market. This programme has

uncovered exclusive new figures that

underscore the scale of the

challenge of people suffering from

dementia and their carers. By the

middle of the century, 1.3 million

people will be living at home with

dementia in the UK, a sharp rise

from the 540,000 currently living

with dementia at home.

For the first time acid

is described as a highly

dangerous weapon in new

sentencing guidelines.

The advice for judges

and magistrates

in England and Wales has

been updated in the wake

of a surge in attacks

using corrosive substances.

Offenders are now likely

to face stiffer penalties.

The American retail

giant Walmart says it

will tighten its policy on firearms

sales as Donald Trump tells

Congress it's time to act.

The President

stunned some politicians

in his own Republican Party

by telling them on live TV not to be

so afraid of the pro-gun lobby.

He said he wanted what he called

a strong reform bill

but stuck by his suggestion

of arming some teachers.

There were 11 wins for the BBC's

journalism at the royal television

society awards last night including

two for this programme. Victoria

Derbyshire was named network

presenter of the year and she also

picked up the gong for best

interview of the year for the

football abuse story. That is a

summary of the latest BBC News. More

at 10:30am. Thank you. It must have

been a good night last night because

I have no idea where my glasses are.

I have left them somewhere in the

capital city of this country. We

have so many messages from you about

dementia. Thank you very much. We

will talk more about it in the next

half an hour. This tweet says your

report on life with dementia is a

difficult but worthwhile watch. A

lot of people with experiences of

neurological conditions will

recognise aspects of how it affects

them. Gary says moving stories from

families in this living with

dementia special. Emotional in so

many ways. Rebecca had: So painful

watching the dementia diaries on

Victoria Derbyshire. I can't imagine

how it feels for the person and

their partner. Joe has emailed to

say I am watching your programme and

finding the focus on dementia very

informative. It is brilliant,

informative and also emotional. Both

my grandmother and mother-in-law had

the condition. I saw them slowly

lose their identity. It was soaked

that. Adam says: My mum had dementia

from 2009 at 2014. What a

destructive type of disease. It was

so sad to have the shell of a loved

one left over from a very loving

mother. We coped as well as we could

and so many restrictions. Sadly her

final week was made worse by

appalling end of life care. The

programme can only go to raise

awareness of such a debilitating

disease that affects more than just

the sufferer. Please tell as many

people as possible. That is what we

plan to do today. Your experience is

so valuable. We are going to hear

from experts of people caring for

dementia sufferers and we will talk

to experts who are looking at curing

the disease, which is the aim one

day but we are long way from that.

If you want to get in touch, you are

very welcome. Use the hashtag. If

you are texting, you will be charged

at the standard rate. Now the sport.

The England rugby union head coach

Eddie Jones said he was physically

and verbally abused by returning by

train from Scotland on Sunday.

England lost their Six Nations match

at Murrayfield the day before. He

suffered abuse on the train from

Edinburgh. This is footage of him at

Manchester Oxford Road Haitian being

harangued and sworn at by a group of

men. -- train station. He then

attended the Manchester United match

as a guest of Sir Alex Ferguson

before continuing his journey to

London by train when he was abused

again. Our rugby union reporter

Chris Jones is here. This is quite

shocking. Part of Eddie Jones's

modus operandi, he likes to engage

with the fans and he likes having

selfies. Clearly this happened on a

couple of legs of his journey south.

He also pointed out some pre-match

comments, from former players, a

Scottish prop, saying the England

hating message, he says that

insights certain behaviours.

Yes,

and he also spoke about an interview

that the great Gavin Hastings gave.

He said Scotland would love to win

to rob Eddie Jones's nose in the

dirt. Some would say that is pretty

freaked Calcutta Cup sparring but

Jones feels it created an atmosphere

of animosity. Jones was travelling

south from Edinburgh, away to the

game at Old Trafford between

Manchester United and Chelsea. We

had BBC footage about him being

accosted at Manchester Oxford Road,

and British Transport Police have

confirmed there was an incident

reported on the train down from

Manchester to London. Scottish rugby

union have sent out a very strong

statement saying they are appalled

and disgusted by the reactions in

the video. And the RFU, while

welcoming the Scottish statement,

and appreciating their support, they

will not make any further comment.

They said that Eddie Jones said all

he had to say yesterday when he

spoke to the British newspapers. But

they say he may not take public

transport in this way again and they

are going to make sure they can do

whatever they can to ensure his

security. They also point out that

Jones is keen to draw a line and the

absurd and move on.

Thank you. --

draw a line under the episode and

move on. Mauricio Pochettino says

the use of VAR in their FA Cup win

at Wembley against Rochdale was

embarrassing. Referee Paul Tierney

used the system which has been

trialled in the cup competitions

this season to allow a goal,

disallow a penalty and allow a

penalty. Five minutes of time added

on at the end of the first half to

allow for all the stoppages. The

Spurs boss feels the technology on

this occasion has been having a

negative affect on the game. It was

1-1 at half-time. A second-half

hat-trick in the space of 12 minutes

from Fernando Llorente so Spurs go

through 6-1 in the end. They will

now face Swansea in the

quarterfinals. I will be back with

the sport headlines a bit later.

Three years ago we gave video

cameras to three people living with

dementia to film their lives. They

did so and they are back with us

this morning along with others

living with dementia, some of their

relatives, those who care for people

with the disease as well. We will

talk about what it is like to live

with dementia and how we as a

country can best pay for that care

for this challenging disease. First,

this is Jim with some facts and

figures.

The number of people being cared for

with dementia in their own homes is

expected to rise by 1.3 million by

2051 according to new projections

showing by this programme. What

impact will that have on health

services and society in general?

Well, it is now thought one in every

three people born today in 2018 will

develop dementia in their lifetime.

It is already the leading cause of

death for women in the UK and the

second leading cause of death for

men after heart disease. By 2040, it

is predicted more people will die of

dementia in this country than all

cancers combined. Then there is the

cost to society, currently put at

£26 billion a year in care and

treatment, which again is expected

to double by 2040. At the moment,

most of that cost is paid for by the

people with the disease. If you live

in England or Northern Ireland and

you have assets over £23,250, you

are currently expected to pay the

social care bill yourself. The rules

are slightly different in Wales and

Scotland, where the amount is Zeb

Taia. This summer the government

should start the process of

reforming the entire system in

England. As for the cost to the

health service, one in four hospital

beds is now used by someone with

dementia. 69% of people living in a

private care home have the

condition. It is not just about

those living with the disease. 25

million people in this country now

have a family member or close friend

with dementia. 700,000 directly care

for somebody affected. Both members

that are set to increase rising over

the next 50 years. Can I introduce

you again to Wendy Mitchell, Keith

Oliver and Christopher, who are all

living with dementia and have been

filming their lives for you?

Veronica is Christopher's wife.

Jennifer is also here. She is a GP

who has been diagnosed with

dementia. And we have got Brenda

over here. She was diagnosed three

years ago. She is with her husband

Stephen. We will introduce you to

some of our other guests in the

course of the next half an hour. I

want to talk to you about the

challenges of living with dementia.

One example is when you were

accosted after parking in a disabled

space?

It was rather embarrassing. Maybe

the gentleman who accused us, with

dementia, you don't look disabled,

you don't look ill. Christopher can

walk which used to be a criteria for

the blue badge. The stress of going

places, big car parks is taken away

by the blue badge, it is essential.

The Government is running something,

looking at it again.

Is there a stigma surrounding

dementia?

You are nodding?

I think there is a

great stigma, I am afraid. People do

not talk about dementia a lot of the

time.

Why is that? A lot of people are

very frightened of dementia. What

you have shown in these films is it

is not frightening, it is part of

life, and a lot of people are going

to have some form of dementia. We

must get used to it and accept it

and talk about it. If you avoid

talking about it, you avoid the

understanding of all the people

around you. We want everybody to

make this country dementia friendly

so we welcome people with dementia,

we talk about it, we change policies

to make sure people with dementia

and those who care for them, people

like Veronica, have an understanding

relationship with neighbours, with

police, with shop assistants, with

people we come across every day.

Wendy, you are an incredible

illustration of living with

dementia, and the adjustments you

have made, including moving house.

Did you want to move house?

Did you feel forced? No, I was

definitely forced. Dementia forced

me in one way because I used to live

in a busy centre of York. And I hope

everyone realises dementia isn't

just about memory, but lots of other

senses are affected as well. And

hearing was one of my first. It just

became too chaotic, it made me

anxious to be in that busy situation

which I used to love.

So, I had to move somewhere quiet.

But also financially, I still had a

mortgage when I was diagnosed.

People often forget, when you are

diagnosed, you still have a

mortgage, young children, I was

working. So no one would have given

me a mortgage under those

circumstances, with living alone. So

I had to move to a cheaper part of

the country to be able to still have

a house.

What about other experiences?

In a long-distance sense, you look

after your mum who has dementia, who

is 91.

She has been in care for over six

years. Before that she was living

alone at home. I would say with