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Hello, it's Friday March

2nd, it's nine o'clock.

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I'm Chloe Tilley,

welcome to the programme.

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How long have you been here?

About eight and a half hours.

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Hellboy you for supplies, water,

food, blankets? A blog I am melting

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snow to drink, I drank mine.

-- how are you for supplies? We will

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be speaking to those planning to

gather to help those most in need.

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Theresa May is to make a major

speech on Brexit today.

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She'll outline five tests

for a future UK-EU deal and pledge

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to bring our country together.

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And we meet the clowns who travel

to some of the world's

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most dangerous places

to try to help refugee children.

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There was one little girl right at

the back, a very sweet girl just

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watching and standing back. I just

smiled at her and she smiled and

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moved back quite shyly, but I had

this real feeling of that was

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special for her.

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There are around 400,000 children

at that single Ronhinga refugee camp

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at Cox's Bazaar in Bangladesh.

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You can see the full

film later this hour.

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Hello.

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Welcome to the programme,

we're live until 11am this morning.

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As always, we want to hear from you.

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Today a group of leading doctors

and fertility experts is calling

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on the Government to get schools

to tell girls how and

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when to get pregnant.

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They say focusing too much

on contraception and teenage

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pregnancy makes women think they'll

be able to get pregnant

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the moment they decide to -

when, in reality they say,

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one in seven couples has

problems conceiving.

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Have you struggled to have a baby

after waiting years before trying?

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Or were you a teen mum and think

more needs to be done to educate

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young girls about contraception?

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Do get in touch on all the stories

we're talking about this morning -

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use the hashtag #VictoriaLive.

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If you text, you will be charged

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at the standard network rate.

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Our top story today...

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Weather warnings remain

in place for much

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of the UK this morning -

ten people are now known to have

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died in weather related incidents

since the conditions first hit

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earlier in the week.

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The Army is coming to the aid

of hundreds of motorists who have

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spent the night trapped

in their cars on some

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of the country's major roads.

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In the north of England, the M62

is closed in the Rochdale area.

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Motorists have been trapped in heavy

snow and high winds.

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Emergency services and

volunteers have been working

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through the night to get

people to safety.

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On the A31 through the New Forest

in Hampshire, police declared

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a major incident and brought

in the army to help free the road.

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Traffic on the eastbound

carriageway has finally begun

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moving after it was closed

for nearly 10 hours.

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Some 35 miles north-west,

other drivers are still trapped

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in their cars this morning,

after police declared a major

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incident on the A303

through Wiltshire and Somerset.

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Our correspondent Robert Hall

was one of those drivers,

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and sent this report.

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With every mile,

the clouds came lower.

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More snow swirled, and

the carriageway began to disappear.

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By the time we reached

the hills of Wiltshire,

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the blizzard had begun.

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Very soon everything

ground to a halt.

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Travelling tonight from east to west

is absolutely horrendous.

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If I put the window down,

hopefully you can see that,

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it is driving snow.

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We probably have six

or seven inches here.

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In front and behind, hundreds

of vehicles were going nowhere.

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We hope to get to Taunton eventually

but at the moment it is not

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looking very promising

and we could be stuck.

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With lorries blocking half

the road, the snowploughs

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struggled to clear a path.

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Trying to get to an old people's

home to to get the heating on.

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I've been stuck out here

since 3pm this afternoon.

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Do you think you will get out?

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Of course we will.

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There is worse trouble at sea!

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Granny would say!

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At the foot of the next hill,

delivery driver Mark Brown had

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become a traffic marshal.

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You seem to be taking

charge of this.

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Well, somebody needs to.

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Finally after six hours

the traffic began to crawl on,

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but this was going to be

a very long night.

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Robert Hall, BBC News,

Chicklade in Wiltshire.

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In a moment we will hear from Phil

Mackie in Worcester, but first let's

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be to Sian Lloyd in Cardiff. What is

it like?

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I am standing next to what is

normally one of the busiest

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interchanges on the M4. A few cars

and lorries have struggled to this

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morning, some are abandoned behind

me. The warning is do not trouble

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unless it is essential. Yesterday we

had the red extreme weather warning

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in Wales, it dropped to amber and

currently we are on yellow with a

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threat of ice to come. More snow is

forecast. The situation here is

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changing pretty quickly that the

adviser is for people to stay in and

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stay warm. More than 1000 schools in

Wales are closed, hundreds of homes

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without power, the company is trying

to get them back on. Hospital

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appointments have been cancelled, we

have seen on Twitter some of the

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major hospitals have been contacting

staff on Twitter and asking them to

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get in if it is safe. In other cases

fall by fours have been sent to

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essential stuff to get them in. In

South Wales small disruption is

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forecast and many of the rail

services have been cancelled. So the

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advice is to check before

travelling. That is the situation in

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south-east Wales, now let's go to

Phil Mackie in Worcester.

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Thanks. You can see a lot of snow

fell yesterday, it is only really

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just stopped at a 24 hours. On the

main high street it has not been

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cleared, the wind is blowing it into

drifts. I wonder what Sir Edward

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Elgar makes of it as he looks down

upon us. You can see that the

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gritting is beginning to work. There

was so little traffic on the roads

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last night that it was not working

at all and it was becoming very,

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very dangerous to drive. But because

some traffic is going around today,

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the main road at least are clear.

Outside the city centre in rural

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areas there are real problems.

Drifting has caused lots of the

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minor roads to be impassable. Bus

services are suspended in large

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parts of Herefordshire and

Worcestershire. The further north

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and east you go, the less snow and

disruption here, but Sian mentioned,

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more snow is forecast for this

afternoon. Much as yesterday but it

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will not improve things. One slight

optimistic note, if I can call it

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that, the temperature has risen to

about the role as opposed to -3 or

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four, so we might even see a bit of

thawing before the next 's no.

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The Met Office says the cold weather

could last into next week

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and possibly the following week.

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There are 10

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severe weather warnings

in place for the UK.

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Amber warnings for snow

are in place for Scotland,

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North East England and Northern

Ireland.

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Most of the rest of the country is

subject to yellow weather warnings

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Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary of the rest

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of the days news.

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Good morning.

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Theresa May will make a speech later

explaining the relationship

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the government wants

with the EU after Brexit.

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She will promise to deliver

the change that people voted

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for in the referendum,

while protecting jobs and security.

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Mrs May will set five tests

to guide the negotiations,

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which include strengthening the UK

and bringing all its

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people together.

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New research suggests

that there could be as many as five

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different strains of diabetes.

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Current medical diagnosis

is for type one or type two

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of the blood sugar condition.

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Scientists in Scandinavia

believe their findings based

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on a study of 15,000 patients,

shows how different causes,

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risks and complications can respond

to different treatments.

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The condition currently affects one

in every eleven adults, worldwide.

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So I think it is really important we

started talking about the subtypes

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of diabetes. Moving beyond type one

and two. Only then will we be able

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to personalise treatment for people

with the condition. Although the

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study in itself will not change the

way people with diabetes are

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treated, it will hopefully help move

in that direction.

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The chief medical officer

for England has warned that people

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are being exposed to a daily

cocktail of pollution that is having

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a significant impact on health.

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In her annual report,

Dame Sally Davies says the impact

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of air, light and noise pollution

is well recognised in

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the environment but not

properly understood when it

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comes to sickness.

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She also calls on the NHS -

which employs a million staff -

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to lead the way in cutting

pollution.

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Our health correspondent

Dominic Hughes explains.

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The impact of serious air pollution

on conditions such as asthma is well

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understood. What is less clear is

the wider effect on our health of

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all the other pollutants we

experience every day. Now England's

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Chief Medical Officer says more

research is needed, not just into

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today's threats but those in the

future.

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I am most concerned about aye at the

moment, but we must not forget to

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measure the impact on health of

other types of pollution or we could

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find in ten or 30 years

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there is a real problem we did not

see coming earlier -- I am most

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concerned about air.

The report says the NHS could lead

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on reducing pollution levels. With

more than a million staff, the

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health service is one of the biggest

employers in the country and

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responsible for around one in 20

road journeys. So for example the

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NHS could cut down on consumption of

single use plastics and emissions

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from buildings. If nothing is done

there are warnings that consistent

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long-term exposure to a range of

pollutants, air, light, noise and

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chemical, could undermine efforts to

improve public health. A better

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understanding of the threat would

help identify possible solutions.

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The Government says it'll commission

research in to the safety of tyres

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on public transport vehicles.

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18-year-old Michael Molloy

was killed in 2012,

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along with two others,

when the coach he was travelling

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in crashed due to a blown tyre

which hadn't been changed

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in nearly two decades.

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His mother has since been

campaigning for a change in the law.

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A couple in California have been

arrested after authorities

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discovered they were living

with three children inside a box.

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This is the area in Joshua Tree,

in California, where it's alleged

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that Mona Kirk and Daniel Panico

were living with their kids.

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They've been charged with wilful

cruelty to children.

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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have

invited more than 2000 people,

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including 1200 members of the

public, from every corner of the

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United Kingdom into the grounds of

Windsor Castle to watch the arrival

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and departure of the bride and groom

at their wedding. Those invited will

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include people from charities and

local schoolchildren.

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That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9:30am.

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We'll be bringing you regular

updates on the snow situation

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right across the country,

throughout the programme.

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Do get in touch to tell

us how you're coping -

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use the hashtag #VictoriaLive.

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If you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate.

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Let's get some sport.

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Olly Foster joins us. If we talk

about Phil Neville, Arsene Wenger,

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there are probably slightly

different moods. Let's start with

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Phil Neville, who had a good night?

Good morning. We did a lot on the

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programme about five weeks ago when

Phil Neville was appointed as head

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coach of the England lionesses, lots

of debate about whether he had

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enough managerial experience, very

little managerial experience at all.

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And also the FA processes in the

recruitment were analysed and

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criticised. He is in position, he

has had his first match. They are at

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the She Believes Club, a very

important friendly tournament, in

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Columbus, Ohio. They beat the French

4-1. France are a very big bogey

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team. They went 4-0 up. Phil Neville

was as pleased as punch, as you

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might imagine. He said before the

tournament he knew people out there

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would want him to fail. He has had a

brilliant start and feels his

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message to his new players has got

through.

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I think bravery is the one word I

have used more than any other in the

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last three days. It is easy saying

it but the hardest thing is to do

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it. My players played with massive

courage today against a side, say

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what you want, we have been really

poor against.

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They will have to step up again

because they come thick and fast in

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this club, they have Germany and the

USA, both very useful women's team.

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Is not good for Arsenal?

Not useful at all. You go back to

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last Sunday and they were completely

humbled in the League Cup final to

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Manchester City, 3-0. Would you

believe they played City again in

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the league last night and again 3-0.

Embarrassed Cink am really. Tens of

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of empty seats. -- embarrassing,

really. The weather probably had

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something to do with it but there

was probably foreboding and people

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do not want to see Arsenal get

thumped in this manner. If you are

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an Arsenal fan, that is. Bernard

Silva, David Silva, Leroy Sane man

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of the Manchester City masterclass.

Is this the end for Arsene Wenger

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and his 22 years at that club?

A blog as a player, you are tapped

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on the shoulder by Arsene Wenger, as

I was,

and he said your time is up,

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your too old. When you too old as a

manager? When has it gone? We are

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not seeing on the pitch the magic he

created in the past. It is gone, it

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is not there. It is almost like a

boxer in the ring, one more fight.

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Nobody is thriving in the towel.

Pretty sad. Doom and gloom if you

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are an Arsenal fan. Take nothing

away from Man City, they are 16

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points clear at the top of the

table, 30 points clear of Arsenal.

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It is looking like Manchester City

will head for that Premier League

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title at the earliest opportunity.

They could win it on April seven.

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The Prime Minister, Theresa May,

is set to deliver a major speech

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today, setting out the Government's

latest position on Brexit.

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She's going to outline five tests

she thinks any deal should

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meet to be successful.

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Let's talk to our political guru

about what we can expect.

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Lets talk to Norman Smith. Take us

through these five tests.

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These are tests to reassure folk

about the type of Brexit she will

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deliver. She said she will respect

the results of the referendum and

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there will be a permanent deal so we

won't be going back to the

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negotiating table next year. It will

be a deal protecting prosperity and

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livelihood and

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be a deal protecting prosperity and

livelihood and it will be a deal

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which tries to bring everyone

together. So far, so simple. The

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really difficult part of her speech

today is trying to convince EU

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leaders that we should now move on

to negotiating those crucial trade

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talks. Because at the moment, both

sides seem to be shouting past each

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other. And I think the core message

from Theresa May to EU leaders is

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going to be the cake eating, we

will. All that. We're not going to

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carry on helping ourselves to huge

chunks of cake because we know you

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find that an acceptable. We will

listen to what you are saying, take

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on board your red lines, listen to

issues that matter to you and we

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will not assume we can have

everything we want. And that, met

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Tara Clay, will get the EU leaders

to think, OK, maybe we can do

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business with Theresa May. The

second part of the speech is going

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to be a plan. This is the difficult

bit, we don't know how much detail

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is going to be in Theresa May's

plan. Downing Street said there will

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be lots of things that will give us

an idea of the sort of trade

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relationship we want to negotiate.

We might see, for example,

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suggestions about which parts of the

British economy the government would

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be prepared to abiding by EU rules

and standards and suggestions have

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been it could be the car industry,

the pharmaceutical industry. The big

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question, is will EU leaders think

that goes far enough. Secondly,

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doesn't that still look like cherry

picking. In other words, it still

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looks like we are trying to eat our

cake and have it. It is tougher

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Theresa May, but the test will be

whether EU leaders say, OK, we will

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talk trade.

Norman, thank you for

that.

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Let's talk to Senator Neale Richmond

from the Governing party

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in Ireland Fine Gael,

he's the chairman of an Irish

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Parliamentary Brexit Committee,

and Richard Tice, a businessman that

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set up Leave UK, which campaigned

for Britain to leave the EU.

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Richard now co-chairs the Leave

Means Leave campaign group.

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Thank you both for speaking to us

this morning. If I can speak to you

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first, Senator, the five Brexit

tests Norman was guiding us through

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we are told the British Prime

Minister will talk about today in

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her speech, do they satisfy you?

Be

alone do not satisfy us. They sound

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like messages for the domestic UK

audience, which is understandable.

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The tone of the speech is very

important, of course and everything

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we have heard so far is welcoming

and we hope we can move onto the

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next age. We are crucially looking

for the element of detail the

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British government haven't exactly

presented. There has been a lot of

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rhetoric and a political agreement

made in December which manifested

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into legal text this week. But if

the government are serious to having

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the closest relationship, which is

we aspire to, we need to see more

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detail quickly.

Richard, are you

happy with the five tests Theresa

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May has outlined?

It is important

she doesn't make further

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concessions. She gave two positive

warm speeches at Lancaster house

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Amber Florence speech last year. So

far we haven't seen enough

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reciprocal from the European Union.

There has been tough and

0:20:050:20:09

uncompromising talk and we need to

see if they are going to genuinely

0:20:090:20:14

entering into some serious trade

talks quickly, otherwise the Prime

0:20:140:20:17

Minister needs to make it clear we

are prepared to go to the world

0:20:170:20:22

Trade Organisation arrangement. We

will not be pushed around and

0:20:220:20:24

bullied and we must not let

ourselves end up with a bad deal

0:20:240:20:27

because we're not prepared to walk

away.

Norman Smith has just said

0:20:270:20:32

Theresa May will start to say, we

are going to be honest, not to ask

0:20:320:20:36

for our cake and eat it, because it

isn't realistic?

It is realistic to

0:20:360:20:41

say we want a deep and special

relationship and we need warm words

0:20:410:20:45

back from the European Union. You

must not negotiate against

0:20:450:20:50

yourselves and may concessions be

about getting concessions so far.

0:20:500:20:54

Otherwise you'll end up with a bad

deal and that is the danger of where

0:20:540:20:58

we are at.

Senator, would you agree

Theresa May should not be making the

0:20:580:21:05

concessions Norman Smith suggested

she may make today?

So far, all we

0:21:050:21:08

have heard is red line as the red

line. The negotiating side is always

0:21:080:21:14

negotiated in good faith. Brexit was

in her idea or something we sought.

0:21:140:21:18

We cannot expect to design what

Brexit can apply, that is the

0:21:180:21:24

responsibility of the British

government. That is what they voted

0:21:240:21:27

for. We need to maintain the close

as possible relationship. In an

0:21:270:21:32

ideal world, the UK would be leaving

the EU in the first place, but we

0:21:320:21:37

hope there is a possibility to stay

well aligned and close to make sure

0:21:370:21:42

the trading and social relationships

can be achieved. The continuous warm

0:21:420:21:46

speeches alone and I'm other members

of the Cabinet and they are not

0:21:460:21:51

enough. Series detail and

propositions about what Brexit

0:21:510:21:53

should look like is what we need. It

is 13 months until Brexit kicks in,

0:21:530:21:58

it is about time we got some detail.

What about the Northern Ireland

0:21:580:22:03

border, clearly it huge issue for

you?

We had a political agreement

0:22:030:22:07

between both the European and

British negotiating side is that

0:22:070:22:12

there would be no hard border in

Northern Ireland. It is important

0:22:120:22:15

and it requires a level of customs

alignment and no regulatory

0:22:150:22:20

diversions that both sides agreed

upon in December. It is very much

0:22:200:22:25

our aspiration that we can achieve a

new trade deal with a large customs

0:22:250:22:29

arrangements aspect to it. The

British government said there might

0:22:290:22:33

be possibilities of some sort of

imaginative options. We have not

0:22:330:22:37

seen any details and we remain

sceptical that any of those are

0:22:370:22:40

achieved. But the third option, the

backstop in the draft legal text

0:22:400:22:46

will come into force, we hope it

does that happen because we continue

0:22:460:22:50

to negotiate in good faith and we

want to make sure that there is not

0:22:500:22:54

only no border but no border between

the other members of the United

0:22:540:22:58

Kingdom as a whole and we can have a

strong relationship built on 45

0:22:580:23:04

years of positive commonality

between the UK and the rest of the

0:23:040:23:08

EU.

Richard is shaking his head?

Yes, let's be very clear, the

0:23:080:23:14

European Parliament's own report by

their specialist last November, made

0:23:140:23:18

it absolutely clear, we can have a

frictionless border using the latest

0:23:180:23:23

technology, number plate recognition

systems, authorised operators, the

0:23:230:23:27

options are there. The European

Parliament report says it Amat

0:23:270:23:31

mirrors what our government said

last August.

That is what Boris

0:23:310:23:36

Johnson said, it is easy as the

congestion charge but everybody

0:23:360:23:39

mocked him.

Our former Prime

ministers are deliberately

0:23:390:23:44

mischiefmaking in a way that is

totally disgraceful. The reality is,

0:23:440:23:49

the solutions and technology are

there. You can have a soft border

0:23:490:23:53

and everybody needs a positive,

can-do attitude as opposed to

0:23:530:23:57

talking about the negatives. That

way we make progress and we can

0:23:570:24:01

arrive at a straightforward,

positive, totally frictionless

0:24:010:24:03

border.

I have to come in on that

point if you don't mind. The report

0:24:030:24:10

Richard has mentioned, he left off a

litter detail, saying there will be

0:24:100:24:15

customs checks and patrol.

It is

very disingenuous. Not at the

0:24:150:24:19

border.

Putting in place any border

on the island of Ireland has been

0:24:190:24:24

cited by both our police forces that

is a viable threat to the Good

0:24:240:24:28

Friday Agreement. We cannot dismiss

it, we cannot say it is

0:24:280:24:33

scaremongering, it is a viable

threat are people who dismiss it, do

0:24:330:24:37

themselves en massive injustice and

do not take this process seriously.

0:24:370:24:41

Senator, thank you and also thank

you Richard.

0:24:410:24:48

Coming up...

0:24:480:24:51

With motorists and train

passengers stranded for hours

0:24:510:24:53

and troops called in to help,

we'll hear some heart-warming

0:24:530:24:55

stories of people mucking in to help

each other out during these

0:24:550:24:58

challenging weather conditions.

0:24:580:24:59

Sex education in schools focuses

on contraception and how

0:24:590:25:01

NOT to get pregnant.

0:25:010:25:05

But now a group of leading doctors

and fertility experts is calling

0:25:050:25:08

on the government to make schools

teach girls when and how

0:25:080:25:10

they should have a baby.

0:25:100:25:12

They say women too often assume

they'll get pregnant as soon

0:25:120:25:16

as they want to but, they say,

for one in seven couples,

0:25:160:25:19

that is not the case.

0:25:190:25:22

Joining me now is Jessica Hepburn -

who has had 11 rounds

0:25:220:25:25

of unsuccessful IVF treatment

and is now a fertility campaigner

0:25:250:25:27

driving the Fertility

Education Initiative.

0:25:270:25:31

Also joining us from Cambridge

is Professor Joyce Harper

0:25:310:25:34

from the UCL Institute of Women's

Health.

0:25:340:25:41

Thank you both for joining us this

morning. Jessica, first of all, tell

0:25:410:25:47

me the challenges you have faced in

your life, in your quest to have a

0:25:470:25:51

baby?

My partner and I started to

try and concede when I was 34, I

0:25:510:25:57

thought it was the perfect age. I

had got to a great point in my

0:25:570:26:01

career. It didn't happen. We tried

for about a year, which is what

0:26:010:26:08

couples are recommended to do before

we went to have a sort of fertility

0:26:080:26:12

tests. That was the start of what

became a decade-long struggle to

0:26:120:26:17

conceive, that as you said, involved

11 rounds of unsuccessful IVF. That

0:26:170:26:23

is at the extreme end of the

spectrum, I am conscious of that but

0:26:230:26:27

we did seem to be able to get

pregnant but I have multiple

0:26:270:26:31

miscarriages and an ectopic

pregnancy that was discovered very

0:26:310:26:33

late.

I got pregnant with my first

child when I was 32 and I was amazed

0:26:330:26:40

my doctor said to me, you are a

young mum. I thought 32? That is

0:26:400:26:46

crazy. But that is the message our

generation has been given, you can

0:26:460:26:50

have your career and I get babies to

fit in with you?

The average age of

0:26:500:26:57

first-time motherhood is increasing,

but exactly as you said, but what

0:26:570:27:03

we're not talking about is the

number of couples who are struggling

0:27:030:27:07

to conceive. Really staggering

statistic that I am aware of is that

0:27:070:27:11

the number of people entering their

40s now, which includes me without a

0:27:110:27:16

child has doubled in a generation

and most of those people are

0:27:160:27:20

childless, not by choice but by

circumstance.

Joyce Harper, explain

0:27:200:27:25

this idea of speaking to children in

school and changing that message

0:27:250:27:29

completely that we have been giving

them, do get pregnant?

We are giving

0:27:290:27:35

a different message, but we're not

asking to get pregnant when they are

0:27:350:27:39

teenagers. We want both men and

women to be fully informed about

0:27:390:27:44

fertility decline, especially in the

female. We are very fertile when we

0:27:440:27:49

are in our teens and 20s, but

unfortunately when we hit 30,

0:27:490:27:55

especially 35, our fertility starts

to decline rapidly and trying to get

0:27:550:27:59

pregnant in your late 30s and early

40s is difficult. We want to make

0:27:590:28:04

sure people have this information

and make sure the technology we

0:28:040:28:07

have, such as IVF, it cannot work

miracles. We can't help people get

0:28:070:28:15

pregnant beyond their mid-40s at the

very most, over 40. People are

0:28:150:28:20

having different lifestyles now.

Women are having careers and

0:28:200:28:23

travelling and doing all sorts of

other things and they have to be

0:28:230:28:28

aware of fertility decline.

If you

stand up as a teacher in front of a

0:28:280:28:33

classroom of teenagers and say to

them, be aware, your mid-20s is your

0:28:330:28:37

optimum time to have a baby, don't

leave it until your mid-30s, that

0:28:370:28:41

seems a lifetime away for these

teenagers, will they take it on

0:28:410:28:46

board?

This is why we want to use

the art project and the project we

0:28:460:28:50

do with Jessica is perfect. We don't

expect teachers to stand up there

0:28:500:28:54

and give this information, children

will not engage with that. The

0:28:540:29:00

project is called Modern Family

because we don't just want to import

0:29:000:29:08

the information that you shouldn't

leave it too long. But also

0:29:080:29:10

different ways of making families.

There may be a choice you don't want

0:29:100:29:12

to have children, or you may want to

be a single mother be in a gay or

0:29:120:29:17

lesbian relationship. We want to

give that information to children

0:29:170:29:20

there are different options

available to them.

Do you think in

0:29:200:29:27

your mid-20s, everybody is ready to

have a baby, because that is the

0:29:270:29:31

problem?

It is an massive problem,

Chloe. A lot of people don't want to

0:29:310:29:35

have children at the biological

optimum age. We have to accept that.

0:29:350:29:41

Many people are not in a position

to. Many people haven't got their

0:29:410:29:46

own home, some people haven't even

left home.

Some people haven't found

0:29:460:29:51

a life partner either?

That is

another big issue also. What we are

0:29:510:29:57

saying is that we're not going to

change that overnight, but what we

0:29:570:30:01

are going to say is the education

about fertility that young children

0:30:010:30:08

are getting in schools is inadequate

at the moment. We want to give them

0:30:080:30:12

an adequate education so they can

make the best life choices for them.

0:30:120:30:17

We are not encouraging or telling

young people went to get pregnant,

0:30:170:30:20

we just know they are getting the

right information and that is what

0:30:200:30:24

we are trying to change.

If you knew

this in your 20s, what you know now

0:30:240:30:29

when you were in your optimum period

of fertility, would you have made

0:30:290:30:32

different choices?

It is so

difficult to look back and say that.

0:30:320:30:38

But I didn't have this information

then. My partner and I have

0:30:380:30:43

unexplained infertility. What I do

know is, the longer journey

0:30:430:30:47

continued and the older I got,

whatever else was going on, I was

0:30:470:30:52

bringing my age into the equation.

Now I have so much more information

0:30:520:30:57

having written a book about it and

now becoming a campaign in this

0:30:570:31:01

area. I feel like I have a duty to

try and change things for the next

0:31:010:31:06

generation.

We have had so many

conversations with friends of mine

0:31:060:31:11

who struggled with their fertility

and the Aaron Niguez, they spent

0:31:110:31:14

their teenage years trying not to

get pregnant.

We have been working

0:31:140:31:18

with young people all this week and

they say, tell us, they want to

0:31:180:31:22

know, they really want this

information. Everyone says exactly

0:31:220:31:26

what you have just said. So we have

to change this.

Thank you for coming

0:31:260:31:31

in. Thank you also for joining us.

0:31:310:31:34

Still to come...

0:31:340:31:35

We'll bring you the

latest on the weather

0:31:350:31:37

and all the disruption it's causing.

0:31:370:31:38

And - clowns without borders.

0:31:380:31:39

We meet the unique charity putting

on a show and lifting

0:31:390:31:42

the spirits of refugee children

0:31:420:31:46

Time for the latest

news - here's Annita.

0:31:490:31:55

The BBC News headlines

this morning...

0:31:550:31:57

A Met Office red "danger to life"

warning covering south-west

0:31:570:31:59

England and South Wales has been

lifted, but amber and yellow alerts

0:31:590:32:02

for snow, ice and wind

are still widely in force.

0:32:020:32:07

Police, with help from the

military, have been rescuing

0:32:070:32:09

drivers trapped in snow,

as blizzards continue

0:32:090:32:10

to sweep across the UK.

0:32:110:32:13

Thousands of schools are closed,

and 5,000 homes in the north-west

0:32:130:32:16

of England are without electricity.

0:32:160:32:17

Dozens of volunteers have been

helping drivers left

0:32:170:32:19

stranded on the M62.

0:32:190:32:21

It's England's highest motorway

and is currently impassable.

0:32:210:32:28

Highways England are warning

there will be no suitable

0:32:280:32:30

cross-Pennine routes

until weather conditions improve.

0:32:300:32:35

On the A31 through the New Forest

in Hampshire, police declared

0:32:350:32:38

a major incident and brought

in the army to help clear the road.

0:32:380:32:41

Traffic on the eastbound

carriageway has finally begun

0:32:410:32:44

moving after it was closed

for nearly 10 hours.

0:32:440:32:46

Hundreds of drivers are still

stranded on the A303

0:32:460:32:51

in Wiltshire and Somerset this

morning, having spent the night

0:32:510:32:53

in their cars with temperatures

as low as minus 10 degrees.

0:32:530:32:59

In other news...

0:32:590:33:01

Theresa May will make a speech later

0:33:010:33:03

explaining the relationship

the Government wants

0:33:030:33:04

with the EU after Brexit.

0:33:040:33:05

Mrs May will promise to deliver

the change that people

0:33:050:33:08

voted for in the referendum -

while protecting jobs and security.

0:33:080:33:10

Mrs May will set five tests

to guide the negotiations -

0:33:100:33:13

which include strengthening the UK

and bringing all its

0:33:130:33:15

people together.

0:33:150:33:25

New research suggests there could be

as many as five string to diabetes.

0:33:250:33:30

Current medical diagnosis is for

type one or two McGrew of the

0:33:300:33:34

condition, but sinus and Scandinavia

believe their findings, based on a

0:33:340:33:38

study of 15,000 patients, show how

different causes, risks and

0:33:380:33:42

complications can respond to

different patients.

0:33:420:33:47

The condition affects one in 11

adults worldwide.

0:33:470:33:50

Prince Harry and Meghan

Markle have invited

0:33:500:33:52

more than 2,000 people -

including 1,200 members

0:33:520:33:53

of the public - into

the grounds of Windsor Castle

0:33:530:33:56

to watch the arrival

and departure of the bride

0:33:560:33:58

and groom at their wedding.

0:33:580:33:59

Prince Harry and Meghan

Markle have invited

0:33:590:34:01

more than 2,000 people -

including 1,200 members

0:34:010:34:03

Kensington Palace says those invited

will include people "from every

0:34:030:34:05

corner of the United Kingdom",

including charity workers

0:34:050:34:07

and local school children.

0:34:070:34:08

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

0:34:080:34:11

Thank you, and Eton.

0:34:110:34:13

Here's some sport now

with Olly Foster.

0:34:130:34:17

Phil Neville is off to a winning

start with the England lionesses.

0:34:170:34:24

They thrashed France 4-1 in Ohio in

a friendly tournament.

0:34:240:34:30

Two thrashings for Arsenal against

Manchester city in five days. They

0:34:300:34:34

are ten points of the Premier League

top four, 30 points off City at the

0:34:340:34:39

top.

The British men took gold in the

0:34:390:34:41

team pursuit at the world track

cycling Championships. Laura Kenny

0:34:410:34:46

helped the women to silver in the

Netherlands.

0:34:460:34:48

Laura Muir has her first major

medal, winning 3000 metres bronze on

0:34:480:34:53

the first day of the world indoor

athletics Championships in

0:34:530:34:58

Birmingham.

I will be back with a full update

0:34:580:35:00

after 10am.

Thank you.

0:35:000:35:02

20 years ago, 37-year-old former

soldier Christopher Alder died

0:35:020:35:05

handcuffed and face down in a Hull

police station after

0:35:050:35:07

choking on his own vomit.

0:35:070:35:08

A group of officers

stood chatting nearby.

0:35:080:35:14

The inquest into Christopher's death

found that his death was unlawful

0:35:140:35:17

and four police officers were guilty

of the "most serious neglect

0:35:170:35:20

of duty," but they were cleared

of all criminal charges.

0:35:200:35:23

During the inquest,

Christopher's sister Janet Alder

0:35:230:35:25

and her lawyer were put under

secret police surveillance.

0:35:250:35:30

Yesterday a gross misconduct hearing

into two officers involved

0:35:300:35:32

in the surveillance ruled

there was no case to answer.

0:35:320:35:37

We can talk now to Christopher's

sister, Janet Alder, for the first

0:35:370:35:40

time since that decision.

0:35:400:35:47

Thank you so much for speaking to us

today, Janet, on what I can only

0:35:470:35:52

imagine is an incredibly difficult

day for you as you try to take in

0:35:520:35:57

everything that has happened. Take

us back to 1998, when Christopher

0:35:570:36:03

died in police custody. You fought

so hard for so long to get answers

0:36:030:36:09

to his death. Do you feel you have

had any answers?

Absolutely none.

0:36:090:36:15

There is not many families that go

through the amount of injustices we

0:36:150:36:20

have been through. There just seems

to have been a wall of silence since

0:36:200:36:27

his death in 1998, up until today.

Tell us, the inquest concluded

0:36:270:36:34

unlawful killing, then what

happened?

0:36:340:36:41

Then we... You know, when you get an

unlawful killing, with its being the

0:36:410:36:46

only verdict that can sanction a

criminal trial, we then had high

0:36:460:36:53

expectations that the CPS would

prosecute these police officers for

0:36:530:37:00

gross negligence, manslaughter,

because that was the inquest

0:37:000:37:03

verdict. We've found they were very,

very reluctant to charge them with

0:37:030:37:08

gross negligence, murder...

Manslaughter, I apologise. It was

0:37:080:37:14

only to my solicitor getting the

evidence that supported... The CPS

0:37:140:37:23

seem to find it difficult to find my

solicitor found this evidence and

0:37:230:37:28

that the CPS in a position where

they had to add the charge to a

0:37:280:37:33

misconduct charge and take the

police officers to court.

And those

0:37:330:37:38

police officers were all cleared. It

is also worth saying that at the

0:37:380:37:43

time of the inquest in 2000, we now

know that you and your lawyer were

0:37:430:37:49

under police surveillance. Did you

have any suspicion at the time?

0:37:490:37:53

When I had been to the police

station in 1998 to find out what

0:37:530:37:57

happened to Christopher, I think it

was the second time I went and spoke

0:37:570:38:02

to a superintendent and basically I

was asking what had happened and

0:38:020:38:11

whatsoever. When I left I just

walked to a book shop, I can't say

0:38:110:38:17

why I went to a book shop at that

time but I went into a book shop and

0:38:170:38:22

I saw what I believed to be a

plainclothes police officer stood

0:38:220:38:26

outside with navy blue overalls on

and a Bloomberg has jacket. The

0:38:260:38:30

reason I believe he was a police

officer is that he had a thin black

0:38:300:38:36

notebook in his hand -- and a blue

Berghaus jacket. On the notebook was

0:38:360:38:42

a badge with red at the top of it. I

was startled and scared. I added

0:38:420:38:52

burst in the book shop, everybody

went over to have a look. I said my

0:38:520:38:56

brother has died in a police custody

and the police are following me.

0:38:560:38:59

They looked out of the door, that

must have made him feel little bit

0:38:590:39:03

uncomfortable and he disappeared.

We know it was decided yesterday

0:39:030:39:10

there was no case to answer

surrounding that surveillance, but

0:39:100:39:13

there also you learned that 12 years

after you had buried Christopher and

0:39:130:39:20

you were trying to move on that, in

fact, the wrong body had been

0:39:200:39:25

released to you and you had not

buried Christopher at all?

Yes. That

0:39:250:39:32

is just a total shock. It was

totally unbelievable how a

0:39:320:39:38

37-year-old former paratrooper could

be mistaken with a 77-year-old woman

0:39:380:39:44

that had been found to have been sat

next to a fire for two weeks. It was

0:39:440:39:52

a total shock. Nobody has actually

told us how this can happen, how his

0:39:520:39:59

body could have been swapped for the

funeral. We have had absolutely no

0:39:590:40:07

answers to that.

All of this time you are trying to

0:40:070:40:12

come to terms with your brother's

death. How has that affected you and

0:40:120:40:18

your family and the unit of people

around you? All of these different

0:40:180:40:24

fronts you had to fight on?

I have made a complaint in 2000 that

0:40:240:40:31

I believed I had been spied on. I

made it to the police complaints,

0:40:310:40:38

that was just before the inquest had

started. I had just seen the death

0:40:380:40:44

of Christopher on CCTV. I was in a

very, very vulnerable position. I

0:40:440:40:51

was told there was no evidence of

this. But because I was told there

0:40:510:40:58

was no evidence did not mean that my

senses and my beliefs had

0:40:580:41:03

disappeared, that I was being

watched and whatsoever. I was living

0:41:030:41:08

with that kind of trauma as well as

having to watch Christopher died in

0:41:080:41:14

the conditions that I had. This went

on for years. We had gone through a

0:41:140:41:20

failed trial. I got really, really

concerned because I was campaigning

0:41:200:41:29

about my son, who was only... Sorry,

he was about nine at the time. As

0:41:290:41:37

years went on he got to about 15 and

because there was so much pressure

0:41:370:41:43

on me with so many things that had

happened at around the same time,

0:41:430:41:49

for the fear of him I put him at his

father's, because I still felt that

0:41:490:41:56

my phone was being tapped and there

was something not right about what

0:41:560:42:04

was going on at the time. The fear

was unbelievable. In 2006, after the

0:42:040:42:11

death in camera was aired on

television and Mr Blunkett had

0:42:110:42:17

appointed the IPCC to do a review

into his death, I mentioned it yet

0:42:170:42:21

again in 2006 and was told yet again

there was no evidence of me being

0:42:210:42:26

spied on. Because I weren't getting

any answers to all the horrific

0:42:260:42:30

things that had happened with

Christopher, of course I was

0:42:300:42:37

campaigning for answers. It is

something I should not have had to

0:42:370:42:43

do and a family should not have to

do. We should not have to take us

0:42:430:42:48

away from our normal life, looking

after our own children and

0:42:480:42:54

whatsoever, to campaign for answers.

Janet, let me read you a statement

0:42:540:42:58

from Humberside Police about that

surveillance. They said we complied

0:42:580:43:02

with the direction of the

Independent office for police

0:43:020:43:05

conduct to convene a hearing for

gross misconduct against the two

0:43:050:43:09

officers. This has concluded with a

result of no case to answer for

0:43:090:43:12

both. We know it has been a

distressing time for Ms older and

0:43:120:43:16

her family and understand her

frustration that the exact details

0:43:160:43:19

are on the case have not been

established. Janet, briefly, do you

0:43:190:43:23

ever feel you will get justice for

Christopher?

Not at all. As far as

0:43:230:43:29

this hearing was concerned I really

did not want to attend because of my

0:43:290:43:34

past experience, you know? I really

did not want to attend. This was a

0:43:340:43:40

hearing recommended by the IPCC

because there were mountains of

0:43:400:43:44

evidence against the police. The

police flatly refused to do it. The

0:43:440:43:50

IPCC then directed them to do it.

This hearing was a situation of the

0:43:500:43:56

police legal team setting a hearing

against their own officers and their

0:43:560:44:03

own offices being defended by the

police.

Janet, it just sums up and

0:44:030:44:11

we can tell by the way you are

speaking to us about the frustration

0:44:110:44:15

you have and the lack of faith you

have in all this. Thank you for

0:44:150:44:19

taking the time to speak to us. It

is very, very kind of you.

0:44:190:44:24

Coming up...

0:44:240:44:26

It's the 90th Oscars Awards

ceremony on Sunday -

0:44:260:44:30

We have exclusive details of a new

survey revealing that Hollywood is

0:44:300:44:34

failing women when it comes to

representing gender on-screen.

0:44:340:44:39

parts of the country.

0:44:390:44:40

Thousands of motorists have been

stranded overnight and troops have

0:44:400:44:42

been drafted in to get key medical

staff to work.

0:44:420:44:45

Red weather alerts, meaning

there is a risk to life,

0:44:450:44:47

were issued yesterday in south-west

England and south Wales,

0:44:470:44:49

and Storm Emma rages

on, meeting the "Beast

0:44:490:44:55

from the East" weather front.

0:44:550:44:56

Many people have been cut

off and are struggling

0:44:560:44:58

to access vital supplies,

while others have been going above

0:44:580:45:01

and beyond to help those in need.

0:45:010:45:10

Joining us now is Robert Taylor and

he is a chef and he owns a pub in

0:45:100:45:18

Kent which has been cut off for

three days because of the weather

0:45:180:45:21

and he has been helping villagers

with supplies.

Also Jessica Bell she

0:45:210:45:28

is in County Durham and has been

stranded at home for a few days

0:45:280:45:32

because of the snow. Thank you be

joining us, I suppose it has been a

0:45:320:45:37

challenge just even connecting with

you in light of what has happened.

0:45:370:45:40

Robert, why did you decide to help

everyone, why have you come to the

0:45:400:45:44

rescue when you could have snuggled

up on the sofa and stayed warm?

0:45:440:45:49

Yesterday morning, we thought we

have all the stuff here and people

0:45:490:45:55

are stuck and cannot get out. It

made sense, why wouldn't you help

0:45:550:45:59

people around you.

What have you

been doing?

Not much, we put it out

0:45:590:46:05

on the local social media that I was

making bread so I was making enough

0:46:050:46:10

that if people want to come and get

some they could. Eggs and milk, and

0:46:100:46:14

stuff like that, it was there if

people wanted it.

How bad is the

0:46:140:46:19

snow outside, how much do you have?

We have had a lot over the last few

0:46:190:46:24

days, on the fields and the roads,

we have had a lot of drifts. Which

0:46:240:46:28

have been blocking the roads. Mostly

now it is nice and because of where

0:46:280:46:40

we are, we are elevated and you

cannot get here without going up and

0:46:400:46:43

down massive hills. People aren't

able to go up and down to get out.

0:46:430:46:46

Presumably there are some people in

the village who are more vulnerable

0:46:460:46:49

and need help?

Yes, the farmers are

doing amazingly well, they are out

0:46:490:46:57

gritting, even though they still

have to do their farm work, they are

0:46:570:47:00

out ploughing the roads to make it

easier for everybody around. It is a

0:47:000:47:05

nice community spirit and everybody

is helping out.

Who has been

0:47:050:47:09

dropping in, trudging to your pub?

There has been a few locals,

0:47:090:47:14

obviously there is not a lot to do

if you cannot get out of the village

0:47:140:47:17

so we have had quite a lot of people

come in. We have got the log fires

0:47:170:47:21

going and it is nice and warm.

It is

great work you are doing. Let's

0:47:210:47:28

bring in Jessica, because you are

stranded in County Durham, give us a

0:47:280:47:31

sense of what it is like outside?

Pretty much, the roads are really,

0:47:310:47:39

really bad. They haven't got round

with any gritters, but local farmers

0:47:390:47:49

have taken their trackers around

with a scoop on the end. It isn't so

0:47:490:47:54

bad today, but round the back of the

house where we parked cars, there is

0:47:540:47:58

about 14 inches of snow so it is

completely over the wheels of both

0:47:580:48:02

mine and my partner's car.

14 inches

of snow?

Yes, we measured it last

0:48:020:48:09

night.

Are you in a rural area?

Consett is quite high up, even when

0:48:090:48:23

anybody else doesn't have snow, we

do tend to have snow. With the

0:48:230:48:27

dramatic weather that we have had,

it hasn't stopped snowing for the

0:48:270:48:32

past four days.

Have you got lots of

food, water, heating?

We have, we

0:48:320:48:38

actually walked to Tesco yesterday.

There wasn't much on the shelves and

0:48:380:48:44

we ended up having to go to another

supermarket instead. As the

0:48:440:48:51

gentleman before me was saying

before me, bread is a big one, there

0:48:510:48:55

is no bread on the shelves and I am

lucky we have a family bakery and we

0:48:550:49:00

had already been a couple of days

before. So we have loads of bread,

0:49:000:49:04

plenty of food so we have pretty

much been watching the TV and

0:49:040:49:09

sitting here waiting.

Jessica, thank

you for speaking to us and Robert,

0:49:090:49:13

thank you for speaking to others and

I hope the snow clears up soon.

0:49:130:49:18

against minority Rohingya Muslims.

0:49:180:49:19

Last summer violence erupted

in the Rakhine region of Myanmar

0:49:190:49:22

against minority Rohingya Muslims.

0:49:220:49:23

They became the target

of the country's military,

0:49:230:49:25

with reports of mass violence,

torture and rape.

0:49:250:49:27

It's since become one of the world's

largest humanitarian crises

0:49:270:49:29

with hundreds of thousands of people

fleeing into neighbouring

0:49:290:49:31

Bangladesh.

0:49:310:49:33

The refugees are now housed

in a camp close to the border

0:49:330:49:36

of the two countries.

0:49:360:49:38

Many of them are children.

0:49:380:49:40

Our reporter Michael Cowan has made

a film about a unique charity -

0:49:400:49:43

which has sent in clowns

to try to help improve

0:49:430:49:45

the children's mental

and emotional wellbeing.

0:49:450:49:49

Hello!

0:49:500:50:00

These are the Clowns

Without Borders.

0:50:010:50:03

They travel across the globe

to entertain refugee children

0:50:030:50:13

in some of the most dangerous

parts of our planet.

0:50:140:50:17

Their latest expedition is here.

0:50:170:50:21

Cox's Bazaar, Bangladesh.

0:50:210:50:23

In the spate of six months,

its population has swelled to form

0:50:230:50:26

a city the size of Birmingham.

0:50:260:50:28

It home to over 1 million Rohingya

refugees who fled violence

0:50:280:50:30

in their native Myanmar at the hands

of the country's military.

0:50:300:50:39

Over 400,000 of them are children

and what child doesn't love a clown?

0:50:390:50:49

Hannah and Richard are two

performers with the UK wing

0:50:550:50:57

of Clowns Without Borders.

0:50:570:51:01

On their recent trip to Bangladesh,

they kept video diaries for us.

0:51:010:51:06

Today, we went to the camp

for the first time.

0:51:060:51:08

The camp is huge.

0:51:080:51:11

Really, really, really

unfathomably big.

0:51:110:51:18

Like a million people.

0:51:180:51:23

We got a little tour

of where the river is that separates

0:51:230:51:27

Bangladesh from Myanmar,

where the refugees came over.

0:51:270:51:32

Where some of the first

refugees started settling.

0:51:320:51:38

Quite ramshacle, built from bamboo

sticks and lots of plastic tarp.

0:51:380:51:47

We did our first show

for the kids today.

0:51:470:51:55

Basically, we arrived

at about 9am in the morning,

0:51:550:52:03

had a look around at

the space and then the kids

0:52:030:52:06

slowly started arriving.

0:52:060:52:16

And the other performers,

obviously were very well chosen,

0:52:190:52:21

because they are incredible

performers but they were also

0:52:210:52:23

great with the kids.

0:52:230:52:24

Actually, I think one

of the things today,

0:52:240:52:27

my tummy was a bit upset

and I was quite tired so I hung back

0:52:270:52:30

in quite a few moments.

0:52:300:52:33

It also made me happy just

to see my other two colleagues just

0:52:330:52:37

playing with the kids and then

you just see this group

0:52:370:52:40

of kids and they all just

standing there like...

0:52:400:52:48

There was one little

girl right at the back,

0:52:480:52:52

watching and standing back.

0:52:520:52:58

I just smiled at her and she smiled

and kind of moved back quite shyly.

0:52:580:53:01

But I had this real feeling

that was special for her.

0:53:010:53:08

The Rohingya fled when their

villages in Myanmar's Rakhine state

0:53:080:53:13

were raised to the ground

by the country's military.

0:53:130:53:16

There are widespread

allegations of brutal

0:53:160:53:19

violence, torture and rape.

0:53:190:53:23

The UN described the crisis

as a textbook example

0:53:230:53:26

of ethnic cleansing.

0:53:260:53:29

Myanmar's government denies

targeting civilians.

0:53:290:53:37

It is so conflicting

because all the contact we have put

0:53:370:53:47

the children and people is smiling

and laughing and knowing what

0:53:480:53:51

happened to these people, but not...

0:53:510:53:53

Just seeing them smiling at this

conflict and hey guys,

0:53:530:53:55

everything seems fine.

0:53:550:53:58

Up until now, I've had one

or two ups and downs.

0:53:580:54:02

It's obviously a humanitarian

crisis, so seeing person,

0:54:020:54:05

after person, after person.

0:54:050:54:14

Every time I looked at a woman

today, I wandered all these things.

0:54:140:54:17

Are you pregnant?

0:54:170:54:18

I know a lot of women are pregnant

because they were raped.

0:54:180:54:28

I'm wondering, are you pregnant

because you where you raped?

0:54:330:54:35

The next woman, have

you seen your children

0:54:350:54:37

being killed in front of you?

0:54:370:54:38

It's horrible.

0:54:380:54:39

And I can't imagine, I cannot

connect to how humans can do this.

0:54:390:54:45

Not men, I somehow feel dirty

and ugly because somehow I connect,

0:54:450:54:55

I'm connected to man,

to men who did these things,

0:54:550:55:01

a group of men who came

in and they raped and they destroyed

0:55:010:55:04

and they killed.

0:55:040:55:05

As an adult, I hear some

of the things they have been

0:55:050:55:08

through and I think to myself,

I look at the actual five-year-old,

0:55:080:55:10

seven-year-old, nine-year-old

11-year-old child's face in front

0:55:100:55:14

of me and I think, I cannot imagine,

as an adult, dealing with that.

0:55:140:55:19

So I don't know how someone that

young, who maybe doesn't

0:55:190:55:26

understand the world yet,

would be able to deal with that.

0:55:260:55:36

You know a good couple of thousand

make their way to our shows and it's

0:55:360:55:40

a lot of people to take care of.

0:55:400:55:44

There was one moment in the show,

I pour myself a cup of water

0:55:440:55:49

and hide behind a newspaper

and another clown drink the water.

0:55:490:55:53

When I go to drink

the water, it's empty.

0:55:530:56:03

I repeat and repeat,

every time I realise my reaction...

0:56:130:56:16

Eventually I'd put it on my head,

it is a very clever way of no one

0:56:160:56:21

being able to take it.

0:56:210:56:23

The other clown replaces

it with his shoe.

0:56:230:56:33

And then freaking out because I have

to drink from a shoe.

0:56:350:56:38

It is so simple, kids are laughing,

adults are laughing,

0:56:380:56:40

all the people are laughing.

0:56:400:56:41

Everyone, it is universal.

0:56:410:56:45

TRANSLATION:

When the see acting

and dancing they laugh.

0:56:450:56:47

It is important for them,

for their development,

0:56:470:56:49

to reduce anxiety.

0:56:490:56:50

Laughing is also good

for their emotional development.

0:56:500:56:52

They forget their sorrows and pain

when they see these shows.

0:56:520:56:57

I don't think I have ever been

appreciated this much anywhere else,

0:56:570:57:00

where I have been to work.

0:57:000:57:05

Which is also really nice,

but also it makes me feel

0:57:050:57:09

there is genuinely a real human need

for the work that we've done.

0:57:090:57:16

When somebody said to me,

thanking us for the work

0:57:160:57:21

we are doing and saying how special

it is and how long this moment

0:57:210:57:28

will stay in the minds of these

kids and this community.

0:57:280:57:38

Some joy being brought into the

lives of the Rohingya children in

0:57:500:57:58

Myanmar.

0:57:580:57:59

Let's get the latest weather update

with Sarah Keith Lucas.

0:57:590:58:04

It's not getting any better soon is

it?

0:58:040:58:06

Not any time soon. We still have

that beast from the east. Snow and

0:58:100:58:16

ice around. More disruptive weather

and we have had pictures in from

0:58:160:58:20

people around the country showing

the disruption and extent of the

0:58:200:58:25

snow. This is from Worcestershire. I

don't think he will be going to much

0:58:250:58:30

further up that particular lane. We

have had other pictures showing a

0:58:300:58:34

lot of lying snow and ice and this

is how things are looking in

0:58:340:58:38

Nottinghamshire this morning. If we

look at some of the lying snow

0:58:380:58:42

depths across the country we have

around 50 centimetres of snow across

0:58:420:58:46

parts of south Wales. Elsewhere,

between 20 to 40 centimetres, so

0:58:460:58:53

enough to cause ongoing disruption

and with the cold conditions, it is

0:58:530:58:56

not going to be melting in a hurry.

We have these brisk, easterly winds

0:58:560:59:01

coming in from Siberia. Further

south, the winds are turning more

0:59:010:59:06

southerly to something less cold on

the cards with the arrival of the

0:59:060:59:12

remnants of storm Emma. This will

continue to bring some more snow

0:59:120:59:16

through today. So this morning, the

snow is as heavy across Wales and

0:59:160:59:21

southern England as it has been but

we will see another band of heavier

0:59:210:59:24

and more persistent snow pushing in

from the South during this

0:59:240:59:28

afternoon. More snow showers for

north-east England and eastern

0:59:280:59:32

Scotland, further west across

northern part of the country, things

0:59:320:59:35

are not looking quite as snowy but

temperatures will be a degree or two

0:59:350:59:41

either side of freezing. When you

add on the wind chill effect, it

0:59:410:59:46

will feel bitter, minus ten, the

feel of the weather with the wind

0:59:460:59:49

chill. This band of snow it tracks

northwards across England and Wales

0:59:490:59:56

and could be another five to ten

centimetres for some parts. Further

0:59:561:00:01

north, snow showers for north-east

England and eastern Scotland. More

1:00:011:00:06

disruptive weather. Overnight,

temperatures falling below freezing

1:00:061:00:09

so cold and icy start to the

weekend. Staying cold in the North

1:00:091:00:13

this weekend but less cold further

south across the country. Still a of

1:00:131:00:20

some showers. Some rain showers

heading into wards the south-west of

1:00:201:00:25

England. We could see some freezing

rain so that is rain falling on to

1:00:251:00:31

freezing surfaces and turning into

ice. It could be dangerously dishes

1:00:311:00:34

in the South with the potential for

freezing rain. But temperatures will

1:00:341:00:37

be quite as cold as they have been

today. Certainly pushing the right

1:00:371:00:42

side of freezing. During Sunday,

still a chance of a few snow showers

1:00:421:00:46

towards the north, but further

south, showers will be turning back

1:00:461:00:50

to sleep, some rain around and

temperatures not as cold although

1:00:501:00:54

still below average for the time of

year.

1:00:541:00:55

Hello, it's Friday March 2nd,

it's ten o'clock, I'm Chloe Tilley.

1:00:571:01:00

Our top story...

1:01:001:01:02

Britain is still in the grip

of the big freeze with many

1:01:021:01:05

roads still impassable.

1:01:051:01:09

Troops have been called in to take

medical staff to and from

1:01:091:01:14

Edinburgh's two biggest hospitals,

but not everyone is happy with the

1:01:141:01:16

response.

1:01:161:01:17

Can I ask you what you

think of the emergency

1:01:171:01:19

services overnight here?

1:01:191:01:20

Has there been one?

1:01:201:01:21

We certainly haven't seen anything.

1:01:211:01:23

What do you think of

the response of the emergency

1:01:231:01:25

services overnight here?

1:01:251:01:26

Not very good.

1:01:261:01:27

They have been doing their bit,

I guess, but I've been

1:01:271:01:30

here since 4:05 and I've done

for miles in 15 hours.

1:01:301:01:32

-- four miles.

1:01:321:01:35

Take a look at this.

1:01:361:01:37

It's the moment that a double

decker bus almost crashed

1:01:371:01:40

into an out-of-control car.

1:01:401:01:43

Somehow the driver just managed

to swerve past the vehicle.

1:01:431:01:49

We'll hear from that hero bus

driver, Charmaine Laurie, shortly.

1:01:491:01:55

This weekend it's the Oscars.

1:01:551:01:57

We'll hear about all

the runners and riders.

1:01:571:01:59

Plus we've exclusive details

of a new survey revealing that

1:01:591:02:01

Hollywood is failing women when it

comes to representing

1:02:011:02:04

gender on screen.

1:02:041:02:12

An astonishing 999 call.

We will hear from a couple who ended

1:02:121:02:19

up with a rather big surprise.

There's something seriously wrong

1:02:191:02:25

with my partner. She's a lot of pain

and it looks as if she's going to

1:02:251:02:29

give birth to something, but she's

not pregnant.

1:02:291:02:34

That was the surprise. You will find

out more later.

1:02:341:02:43

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news.

1:02:431:02:47

A Met Office red "danger to life"

warning covering south-west

1:02:471:02:50

England and south Wales has been

lifted - but amber and yellow

1:02:501:02:54

alerts for snow, ice and wind

are still widely in force.

1:02:541:02:58

Police - with help

from the military -

1:02:581:03:00

have been rescuing drivers trapped

in snow, as blizzards continue

1:03:001:03:02

to sweep across the UK.

1:03:021:03:06

Thousands of schools are closed,

and five thousand homes

1:03:061:03:08

in the north-west of England

are without electricity.

1:03:081:03:10

Dozens of volunteers have been

helping drivers left

1:03:101:03:11

stranded on the M62.

1:03:121:03:15

It's England's highest motorway

and is currently impassable.

1:03:151:03:17

Highways England are warning

there will be no suitable

1:03:171:03:19

cross-Pennine routes

until weather conditions improve.

1:03:191:03:24

On the A31 through the New Forest

in Hampshire, police declared

1:03:241:03:26

a major incident and brought

in the army to help clear the road.

1:03:261:03:30

Traffic on the eastbound carriageway

was stuck after the road was closed

1:03:301:03:33

for nearly 10 hours.

1:03:331:03:36

Hundreds of drivers became

stranded on the A303

1:03:361:03:37

in Wiltshire and Somerset.

1:03:371:03:44

Many are still stranded.

1:03:441:03:45

Many had to spent the night

in their cars with temperatures

1:03:451:03:48

as low as minus 10 degrees.

1:03:481:03:49

In other news...

1:03:491:03:52

Theresa May will make a speech later

explaining the relationship

1:03:521:03:54

the Government wants

with the EU after Brexit.

1:03:541:03:56

Mrs May will promise to deliver

the change that people voted

1:03:561:03:58

for in the referendum,

while protecting jobs and security.

1:03:581:04:00

Mrs May will set five tests

to guide the negotiations -

1:04:001:04:03

which include strengthening the UK

and bringing all its

1:04:031:04:05

people together.

1:04:051:04:10

New research suggests

that there could be as many as five

1:04:101:04:13

different strains of diabetes.

1:04:131:04:14

Current medical diagnosis

is for type one, or type two,

1:04:141:04:16

of the blood sugar condition.

1:04:161:04:17

Scientists in Scandinavia

believe their findings,

1:04:171:04:20

based on a study of 15,000 patients,

shows how different causes,

1:04:201:04:22

risks and complications can respond

to different treatments.

1:04:221:04:25

The condition affects one in every

eleven adults, worldwide.

1:04:251:04:35

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have

invited more than 2000 people,

1:04:371:04:40

including 1200 members of the

public, into the grounds of Windsor

1:04:401:04:44

Castle to watch their arrival and

departure at their wedding.

1:04:441:04:48

Kensington Palace says people from

every corner of the United Kingdom

1:04:481:04:51

have been invited, including charity

workers and local schoolchildren.

1:04:511:04:54

That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10:30am.

1:04:541:04:59

Thank you, any two.

-- Annita A group of fertility

1:04:591:05:07

experts have been telling us this

morning they think that girls in

1:05:071:05:11

school should be taught when and how

to get pregnant, rather than don't

1:05:111:05:15

get pregnant. Saying the opt age a

major fertility is in the mid-20s

1:05:151:05:18

and encouraging girls to take that

on board.

1:05:181:05:20

Lots of you getting a touch. Claire

says I decided on Korea first before

1:05:201:05:26

trying to get pregnant. Everything I

read indicated women were waiting

1:05:261:05:29

later in life to have children so I

assumed it would not be a child,

1:05:291:05:39

could bring them into a stable home

and was in the right place,

1:05:391:05:43

physically and financially. I could

not get pregnant and was told I had

1:05:431:05:47

unexplained fertility. I think lots

of women like me are encourage to

1:05:471:05:51

leave having children until later in

life and realise it is not possible.

1:05:511:05:56

Statistics clearly show fertility

dramatically reduces after the age

1:05:561:05:59

of 35, yet this is not widely

publicised.

1:05:591:06:02

Helen says listening to your piece

about the optimum time to have a

1:06:021:06:05

baby, I was astonished that no time

was given a happy, stable

1:06:051:06:15

relationship.

We did say in your mid-20s you might

1:06:151:06:17

not be ready. I might have liked a

baby in my 20s but did not meet the

1:06:171:06:20

man I loved and trusted enough to

have a baby with until I was 34. We

1:06:201:06:23

had two healthy boys together when I

was 37 and 39. If I had a baby in my

1:06:231:06:27

20s I would not have been able to

provide for a child.

1:06:271:06:30

You need a loving relationship.

Sammy Jo says I have struggled for

1:06:301:06:34

many years to get pregnant. Started

trying at 25, had unexplained

1:06:341:06:39

fertility. Many IVF attempts. Sadly

most friends my age are in the same

1:06:391:06:44

situation and joining the bottom of

IVF waiting lists. The same for

1:06:441:06:50

about half of my colleagues. I would

say it is more like three in seven

1:06:501:06:54

rather than one in seven. I know a

woman who gave birth at 27 years of

1:06:541:07:00

trying. Most infertility is

pathological, it is not necessarily

1:07:001:07:03

down to leaving a too late. I had

nothing to indicate in my formative

1:07:031:07:07

years I would face this battle.

Injection is for IVF seven start

1:07:071:07:11

today. Best of luck, Sammy Jo.

1:07:111:07:14

Do get in touch with us

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1:07:141:07:18

use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE

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Here's some sport now

with Olly Foster.

1:07:231:07:24

Thank you. Another morning for

Arsenal fans to try to avoid the

1:07:241:07:31

newspaper headlines. Lots more

fallout, and the defeat to

1:07:311:07:35

Manchester city, second in the space

of five days. Completely outclassed

1:07:351:07:38

in the League Cup final at Wembley,

beaten again 3-0 in the league. The

1:07:381:07:46

gulf between the champions elect and

the gunners is huge by the looks of

1:07:461:07:50

it. Let's get more from the daily

Mirror's Chief football writer John

1:07:501:07:55

Cross. Also an author of that

biography and Arsene Wenger, those

1:07:551:08:00

early chapters were absolutely

glorious but we are surely reaching

1:08:001:08:05

the final paragraph, the end, now?

A

very good morning. The first ten

1:08:051:08:10

years wonderful, the second less so.

It feels like the end. There was so

1:08:101:08:17

much debate last season and last

summer whether he should stay on, so

1:08:171:08:21

many doubts even from within the

boardroom. I feel it was such a

1:08:211:08:26

gamble for him to stay for that

extra two years. There was a hope he

1:08:261:08:31

would give it one more crack at a

title push that they are so far

1:08:311:08:35

behind and for every year that he

stays I think Arsenal are in serious

1:08:351:08:39

danger of slipping further and

further behind. 30 points behind

1:08:391:08:43

Manchester City at the moment in the

Premier League table, they are

1:08:431:08:47

languishing in sixth place, out of

the FA Cup, they only have the

1:08:471:08:51

Europa League left. Desperate times

for Arsenal at the moment.

1:08:511:08:55

He has been the great survivor, he

has had dark days before. What

1:08:551:09:00

degree of blame do you think this

rather fractious Arsenal board and

1:09:001:09:05

hierarchy should take for the

current predicament?

I think in

1:09:051:09:10

fairness to them they wanted to give

him every opportunity and the

1:09:101:09:13

majority shareholder Dave Crombie

stood by his man. But much of the

1:09:131:09:23

blame understandably will be penned

and Arsene Wenger and I guess he has

1:09:231:09:28

to take responsibility for the team

and players he has put together.

1:09:281:09:34

There was an very lacklustre

performances and some of those

1:09:341:09:36

players just would not get near some

of the classic teams that finger

1:09:361:09:42

built ten or 15 years ago when he

was enjoying that success. -- that

1:09:421:09:46

Wenger built. There are lots of many

as needed to guide some of the

1:09:461:09:52

promising players. Bellerin was such

a talent and I still think that is

1:09:521:09:56

fair, but when confidence is low you

need characters to build them up and

1:09:561:10:00

there was hope that that central

defensive axis would help provide

1:10:001:10:05

that. Mustafi has not been the

player they hope they were signing,

1:10:051:10:10

Koscielny is on the way down. So

many players are underperforming

1:10:101:10:15

right now. The confidence is shot to

bits and you wonder where they will

1:10:151:10:19

get the next result from.

Silly rebuild required in the

1:10:191:10:25

summer, perhaps starting with the

manager? You think that is it? -- so

1:10:251:10:31

a rebuild required?

I think there is

no doubt he will be gone in the

1:10:311:10:35

summer. I think the walls are

closing in and we are seeing the

1:10:351:10:38

final days of a legend. I think it

is the end of Arsene Wenger.

John

1:10:381:10:42

Cross, thank you very much. That is

all the sport for now, I will have

1:10:421:10:47

the headlines in the next half-hour.

1:10:471:10:49

More now on the blizzards that

are continuing to disrupt road

1:10:491:10:52

and rail travel across many parts

of the country.

1:10:521:10:54

Police - with help from the military

- helped to free hundreds

1:10:541:10:57

of motorists stranded

on the A31 in Hampshire.

1:10:571:10:59

Police declared a major

incident and the military,

1:10:591:11:01

coastguard and fire service helped

to rescue motorists.

1:11:011:11:05

Elsewhere volunteers have been

bringing supplies to people trapped

1:11:051:11:07

in their cars on the M62

near Rochdale - we'll be talking

1:11:071:11:10

to one of the organisers shortly.

1:11:101:11:14

One of the most dramatic images

that's emerged in the past 24

1:11:141:11:17

hours was footage of a bus swerving

to avoid a car in Scotland.

1:11:171:11:21

I actually felt sick when I watch

this.

1:11:211:11:24

The footage was filmed on a dashcam

by van driver Gareth Smith,

1:11:241:11:27

who was in the Fairmilehead

area of Edinburgh.

1:11:271:11:29

Let's take a look at what happened,

along with Gareth's

1:11:291:11:32

terrified reaction...

1:11:321:11:37

Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh! Oh! Oh!

It still makes me feel sick now.

1:11:471:11:59

Incredible.

1:11:591:12:01

I'm joined via webcam from Edinburgh

by Charmaine Laurie,

1:12:011:12:05

who was driving that number 11 bus,

and also by councillor Andy Kelly

1:12:051:12:08

from Rochdale Borough Council.

1:12:081:12:09

From Bournemouth by Philip Brown,

who has spent the night stranded

1:12:091:12:12

on an unheated train.

1:12:121:12:13

And also our correspondent

Phil Mackie is in Worcestershire.

1:12:131:12:22

Charmaine, I have to starred with

you. At what point when you were

1:12:221:12:26

driving Babos did you see that car?

It looked like conditions were

1:12:261:12:31

pretty poor? -- at what point when

you were driving that bus?

1:12:311:12:36

Visibility was poor, it was just

when I came over the hill and

1:12:361:12:40

through the snow I saw the car

making a U-turn in front of me. I

1:12:401:12:43

did not have much time to react. I

just tap the brake, my back and

1:12:431:12:49

started to slide so I had to take my

foot of the brake and try to guided

1:12:491:12:59

through the available space.

There

was not a lot of space, bearing in

1:12:591:13:02

mind you are driving a double-decker

bus?

There was a van on the opposite

1:13:021:13:04

side. There was very little space.

You had around 20 passengers,

1:13:041:13:10

including children?

That is right.

That responsibility in that split

1:13:101:13:15

second, did you have time to think

or was it just instincts?

A lot of

1:13:151:13:21

it is just instinct. We are trained

to be aware of the situation is, we

1:13:211:13:30

always have to have passenger

safety, first and foremost.

What

1:13:301:13:37

were the passengers doing as they

started to slide through, did they

1:13:371:13:40

realise what was going on?

I was

more focused on what was in front of

1:13:401:13:46

me. I didn't look in the mirror at

the passengers or see their

1:13:461:13:51

reaction.

I guess there was cheering

and general praise afterwards?

No,

1:13:511:13:57

no one said anything. One lady was

getting off and asked me how I was.

1:13:571:14:04

I got a freight, I went, but I'm OK.

She went, well done. Bye-bye

1:14:041:14:09

Charmaine, it is incredible. So many

people have been watching that

1:14:091:14:13

footage online and incredible

driving to protect those 20 people

1:14:131:14:17

on board. Phil Mackie, our

correspondent, is in Worcestershire.

1:14:171:14:25

You were showing is huge. What are

conditions like? You were showing as

1:14:251:14:36

some huge snowdrifts.

Staff would

normally be working around the parks

1:14:361:14:41

and Recreation areas but they have

been called out with big snow

1:14:411:14:44

shovels to clear the path is. The

snowplough has been doing its job.

1:14:441:14:49

Let me turn 180 degrees, watching

not to trip the cameraman, there is

1:14:491:14:54

its big brother which has been

travelling around the roads of

1:14:541:14:58

Worcestershire throughout the last

couple of days. There is a plough

1:14:581:15:03

fitted to the front, Grits coming

out of the back and as the hours

1:15:031:15:07

have gone on through daylight today,

because it is a bit warmer and there

1:15:071:15:12

is a bit of traffic around, the

gritting is doing its job and

1:15:121:15:15

keeping the roads clear. It is a bit

easier to get around. Still problems

1:15:151:15:20

in rural areas. John Fraser from

Worcestershire highways joins me,

1:15:201:15:23

the rural areas are giving you a

headache?

Yes. Most of the main

1:15:231:15:28

roads are very clear, we have

snowdrifts, particularly in rural

1:15:281:15:32

locations. Snow is blowing from

fields and we are having to deal

1:15:321:15:36

with problems we sorted out already.

You showed me one particular

1:15:361:15:42

drifting Clifton which is about ten

miles west of Worcester, it is about

1:15:421:15:45

ten feet high?

It is incredible,

some of the country lanes, the wind

1:15:451:15:51

is blowing blistering, powdery snow,

blown it across the roads so we are

1:15:511:15:55

having to get back out there. Lots

of farmers and rural contractors are

1:15:551:16:00

helping.

People with tractors or JCB

is who you call upon in times like

1:16:001:16:04

this to get the rural roads clear?

They are on stand-by for us and in

1:16:041:16:10

situations like we have seen over

the last few days and maybe tonight

1:16:101:16:14

they are able to come out with

tractors and ploughs and help.

What

1:16:141:16:17

is the general picture?

We have the

main roads open, we are moving on to

1:16:171:16:23

some of the smaller roads. We expect

pulses of snow over the next few

1:16:231:16:28

hours and into tonight and we will

keep a close eye and do what is

1:16:281:16:31

necessary.

Things were as bad as I

can remember them last night, what

1:16:311:16:35

were conditions like for your

people?

We were battling the

1:16:351:16:40

elements all night, round-the-clock

gritting, refilling in the depot,

1:16:401:16:43

getting back out. Very cold

temperatures, snow, drifts, high

1:16:431:16:47

winds. Pretty bad.

Thank you. There

is the big Ritter with its

1:16:471:16:55

snowplough blade fixed, it will

carry on trying to clear the roads

1:16:551:16:58

of Worcester and Worcestershire.

West of the M5, south of Bromsgrove,

1:16:581:17:02

it is worse. The further south and

west you go into Herefordshire

1:17:021:17:07

particularly is quite bad. Lots of

buses cancelled, trains are running,

1:17:071:17:11

check if you want to catch a train

that your services not badly

1:17:111:17:15

affected. Virtually all the schools

in that area I mentioned are closed.

1:17:151:17:18

Businesses are open, if you want to

get coffee or shop, please do so,

1:17:181:17:23

but be careful. I think of people

are probably just staying in the

1:17:231:17:27

warm at home.

1:17:271:17:34

Suu Kyi Phillip Brown had quite a

train journey last night. Philip,

1:17:341:17:38

you back home now, but what

happened?

I got the 505 train out of

1:17:381:17:44

Waterloo which was delayed. I cannot

remember what time it did leave now,

1:17:441:17:50

it has been such a long night. The

train was running slowly but making

1:17:501:17:55

progress until it got to the new

Forest. We sat there for three

1:17:551:17:59

hours. Upon leaving the station, the

train lost power. Which meant we

1:17:591:18:04

lost lights, heating and they

managed to restore the lights, but

1:18:041:18:09

they never got enough power back to

bring the heating back so we spent

1:18:091:18:14

the best part of the night with no

heating, which wasn't the most

1:18:141:18:18

pleasant experience. You cannot

sleep when you are cold. The

1:18:181:18:21

passengers were great, they were sat

chatting. There was only one

1:18:211:18:27

passenger who became agitated,

everyone else was taking it in their

1:18:271:18:30

stride and just got on with it. No

point in blaming any one individual.

1:18:301:18:36

Terribly British Justice are you got

on with it. I think if you are on a

1:18:361:18:41

coal train, in the middle of the

night, I presume there was no food

1:18:411:18:44

and no water?

There was no food,

that had been sold from the trolley

1:18:441:18:50

earlier in the evening so there was

nothing available. It is British to

1:18:501:18:56

say he just get on with it, but I

have respect for the driver and the

1:18:561:19:01

guard on the train, both of whom

spoke to passengers as much as they

1:19:011:19:05

could. They were potentially let

down because they were not given the

1:19:051:19:08

information they needed to give us.

They were doing their best in a

1:19:081:19:13

terrible situation.

You are

stationary for three hours, freezing

1:19:131:19:17

cold so how did you start moving

again?

I guess it was about 7:30am

1:19:171:19:25

this morning and other train pulled

alongside from the cross-country

1:19:251:19:31

network can they put a platform

bridge between the two train so we

1:19:311:19:33

could walk across to get on the

other train. I remember going on

1:19:331:19:39

that train and I could feel some

heat. I got into Bournemouth about

1:19:391:19:44

8:30am so a 15 hour journey which

shouldn't have been no more than

1:19:441:19:49

two.

You must be absolutely

exhausted and probably regretting

1:19:491:19:53

ever getting on that train?

With

hindsight, looking at the conditions

1:19:531:20:00

at Waterloo, I probably could have

gone to a hotel and just stayed the

1:20:001:20:03

night. But the trains aren't going

to be any better today so I probably

1:20:031:20:09

would have been stuck there for a

lot longer. As a regular commuter

1:20:091:20:13

you kind of get used to trains and

there are delays on occasions but I

1:20:131:20:18

have never had any like that before.

Please you are back home, thank you

1:20:181:20:23

for sharing your story. Andy Kelly

from Rochdale Borough Council, you

1:20:231:20:29

have been a good Samaritan

overnight, what did you do?

Good

1:20:291:20:34

morning, I was ready to watch the

Manchester City game last night and

1:20:341:20:40

I got a phone call from my colleague

Irene Davison from the community

1:20:401:20:44

centre. We got word that the M 62

had closed the highest point here.

1:20:441:20:51

We got people to come down to come

and open the community centre and

1:20:511:20:56

about 50 people turned up with food,

blankets and drinks and as people

1:20:561:21:00

were directed off the motorway, they

came to us. They are still here,

1:21:001:21:05

they have at Vinatieri, slept where

they can. We have had people in 4x4

1:21:051:21:12

's taking people drinks and food who

are stranded beyond the got a point.

1:21:121:21:20

We have of volunteers cutting down

trees, keeping the roads open. It

1:21:201:21:23

has been astonishing. I am proud to

be from Rochdale.

Who are the people

1:21:231:21:31

stranded in their cars overnight?

It

is everybody you can think of. A lot

1:21:311:21:37

of people trying to get back to

Yorkshire, who are trade people,

1:21:371:21:41

people who had been to a funeral. We

had people who are diabetic, people

1:21:411:21:47

who had guide dogs, young children,

families who come forward and put

1:21:471:21:51

people up for the night. Two local

hotels put people up for free. One

1:21:511:21:57

in the town centre, the flying

horse, put 35 people up last night.

1:21:571:22:02

It has been a phenomenal community

effort. We are about to go into a

1:22:021:22:08

lunchtime shift because there is no

sign of the motorway opening yet.

1:22:081:22:12

Enjoy your cup of tea and thank you

for speaking to us this morning and

1:22:121:22:17

that is Councillor Andy Kelly from

Rochdale Council. This statement has

1:22:171:22:21

come in from Jane and she said I

live in Kirkintilloch and we have

1:22:211:22:25

had around two feet of snow. The

local shops are out our bread and

1:22:251:22:30

milk and other food items are

getting low. No buses for the past

1:22:301:22:34

four days, no trains on the

pavements are deep in snow. It is an

1:22:341:22:42

easy walking to the shops and many

people are stuck inside. Is the UK

1:22:421:22:45

Government going to do anything,

asks Jane.

1:22:451:22:50

Still to come...

1:22:501:22:53

The couple who dialled 999 and had a

big surprise, you will hear the full

1:22:531:22:59

story shortly.

1:22:591:23:01

This weekend, Hollywood commemorates

90 years of the Oscars.

1:23:011:23:03

But when it comes to representing

women on screen, there might not

1:23:031:23:06

be a lot to celebrate.

1:23:061:23:08

Female representation amongst

the best picture winners

1:23:081:23:10

is lower in the 2010s

that it was in the early

1:23:101:23:12

days of the Oscars -

when many women were still fighting

1:23:121:23:15

for the right to vote.

1:23:151:23:16

BBC 100 Women has analysed the last

89 winners of Best Picture and found

1:23:161:23:19

that more than half of them fail

something called the Bechdel Test -

1:23:191:23:24

here's what that means.

1:23:241:23:26

Hollywood is failing women.

1:23:261:23:29

And struggling to show

that their lives don't

1:23:291:23:31

revolve around men.

1:23:311:23:36

The Bechdel test monitors how

women appear in cinema.

1:23:361:23:43

A movie has to include

two named women.

1:23:431:23:48

They have to talk to each other

and they have to talk to each other

1:23:481:23:51

about something other than a man.

1:23:521:23:53

Simple, right?

1:23:531:23:55

There have been 89 Best Picture

winners at the Oscars.

1:23:551:23:58

More than half of them

do not pass the test.

1:23:581:24:06

Casablanca, Slum Dog Millionaire,

Lord of the Rings,

1:24:061:24:13

Gladiator, have all failed.

1:24:131:24:15

The Bechdel test isn't perfect.

1:24:151:24:18

For example, it doesn't tell you how

much women speak over all.

1:24:181:24:22

But it is a good place

to start the conversation

1:24:221:24:24

on gender equality in cinema.

1:24:241:24:30

Besides, as one study has found out,

films that pass the Bechdel test

1:24:301:24:33

actually appear to make more money.

1:24:331:24:37

Our reporter Megha Mohan can

take us through this.

1:24:371:24:45

I have never heard of this Bechdel

test, is it widely used?

It started

1:24:451:24:52

in 1985 in an innocent way. It was a

cartoon strip from New York called

1:24:521:25:00

Dykes to watch out for. It is two

women deciding to go to the cinema

1:25:001:25:04

and they want to see a movie. But

they wanted two women talking, two

1:25:041:25:11

named women talking to each other

and not about a man. They go to the

1:25:111:25:15

cinema and there was nothing there.

It is an innocent cartoon strip in

1:25:151:25:21

1985, but something resonated with

women so they started to apply this

1:25:211:25:28

to films to see which films, or how

many films passed the Bechdel test.

1:25:281:25:34

It is quite surprising. Now you know

it, you will watch out for it.

It is

1:25:341:25:39

depressing this, that it appears to

be getting worse?

One of the things

1:25:391:25:43

we found, not only is it depressing,

but the elements of what passes,

1:25:431:25:49

what can pass the Bechdel test is

even more depressing. Call me by

1:25:491:25:54

your name, an Oscar-nominated film

this year, just about passes because

1:25:541:26:04

they talk about a smoothly. The

Boston Globe, uncovering the priest

1:26:041:26:12

scandal, the abuse scandal. That

passes because one woman asked

1:26:121:26:15

another woman for a glass of water.

It is the quality of the

1:26:151:26:19

conversation we need to look at as

well.

It is not looking at

1:26:191:26:24

diversity, not looking at ethnicity

or disability being shown?

There are

1:26:241:26:30

so many elements, so if you raise

the bar even more, two women of

1:26:301:26:34

colour talking to each other, or

like you say, a woman and two

1:26:341:26:40

disabled women talking to each

other, it changes completely. The

1:26:401:26:47

bar is lowered completely. People

say, we don't want to be shoehorned

1:26:471:26:51

into conversations, that is what

female film critics are saying, we

1:26:511:26:56

wanted to be meaningful

conversations that are actually

1:26:561:26:59

resonate and galvanise, represent

that women have conversations in

1:26:591:27:05

real life, like you and I do about

things weigh more than men.

Thank

1:27:051:27:13

you for talking to us.

1:27:131:27:16

Let's talk about that and other

things Oscar-related

1:27:161:27:18

with Helen O'Hara from Empire

Magazine.

1:27:181:27:26

Did you know about the Bechdel test?

I did. White is it depressing and

1:27:261:27:31

women don't seemingly talk to each

other other than men. I take hope

1:27:311:27:39

from the fact that this year, four

of the best picture nominees are

1:27:391:27:46

female lead, female focused stories

and historically that has been rare.

1:27:461:27:50

So few films are about a woman

character in principle. It is

1:27:501:27:54

something like 12% of Hollywood

films. The fact it is for films out

1:27:541:27:59

of nine is a step in the right

direction and it gives me real hope.

1:27:591:28:05

Let's talk about the things we

expect to

1:28:051:28:15

dominate, the #MeToo campaign, there

have been cutaways of Harvey

1:28:161:28:20

Weinstein, Kevin Spacey.

I only if

they are planning another black

1:28:201:28:25

dress protest like they did at the

Golden Globes and the BAFTAs. What

1:28:251:28:29

we will see if they don't, lots of

#TimesUp pins, it will be very

1:28:291:28:38

present, presenters may reference it

and so on. I think it will be very

1:28:381:28:43

much add colour to the proceedings

and a presence on the night.

The

1:28:431:28:47

Oscars have had its problems last

year and we will talk about the

1:28:471:28:50

envelope in a minute, but the Oscars

being so White has been a problem

1:28:501:28:54

for a few years and things haven't

moved that much, but are they

1:28:541:28:58

starting to move?

The front runners

in the acting categories are

1:28:581:29:03

probably white this year, but there

are at least some nominees of

1:29:031:29:07

colour, which is better than there

have been in recent years. I think

1:29:071:29:12

the new and more diverse voters the

Oscars brought in that the Academy

1:29:121:29:18

admitted, will help the fact that

something like Lady Bird was

1:29:181:29:20

nominated at something like Get Out

is nominated, Call Me By Your Name

1:29:201:29:30

there is diversity to the stories

being told this year we haven't seen

1:29:301:29:34

in the past.

We have got to talk

about the envelope issue last year,

1:29:341:29:39

everyone remembered they announced

the wrong film for best picture. If

1:29:391:29:44

it was one lower down that maybe

people didn't pay as much attention

1:29:441:29:47

to, which is clearly saying you will

never happen again. Presumably there

1:29:471:29:55

will be references to it?

I think we

can expect it front and centre to

1:29:551:30:02

Jimmy Kimmel's opening monologue. He

had a good Oscars, but that coloured

1:30:021:30:07

everything so maybe that is why he

wanted to come back straightaway. I

1:30:071:30:11

would expect some of the presenters

to reference it as they opened their

1:30:111:30:15

envelopes. I think there will be

some kind of explanation as to what

1:30:151:30:19

they are doing differently to make

sure this doesn't happen again. We

1:30:191:30:22

will literally be showing something

that has changed.

You do you think

1:30:221:30:26

will win the big one?

Three

billboards, I have to say I am

1:30:261:30:33

getting Raqqa pulling for Get Out

because it is the most relevant and

1:30:331:30:40

politically important films of this

year.

1:30:401:30:44

Now we've got an extraordinary

999 call for you.

1:30:441:30:46

Gareth Williams from Pontypool

in South Wales called the emergency

1:30:461:30:48

services when his partner

Rhiannon Oldham was suffering

1:30:481:30:50

from stomach pains, and seemed

to have, in his own words,

1:30:501:30:53

"something coming out of her".

1:30:531:30:55

The recently engaged couple didn't

realise their family

1:30:551:30:56

was in for a big surprise.

1:30:561:31:00

Wow! Just wow. Incredible. It is a

big day for the Prime Minister.

1:32:461:32:52

She's giving a major speech

on Brexit this afternoon -

1:32:521:32:54

we'll ask some Leave and Remain

voters what they want

1:32:541:32:56

to hear from her.

1:32:561:32:57

And 1200 members of the public

are invited to Prince Harry

1:32:571:33:00

and Meghan Markle's wedding in May.

1:33:001:33:01

Time for the latest

news - here's Annita.

1:33:071:33:14

The BBC News headlines...

1:33:141:33:16

A Met Office red "danger to life"

warning covering south-west

1:33:161:33:18

England and south Wales has been

lifted, but amber and yellow alerts

1:33:181:33:21

for snow, ice and wind

are still widely in force.

1:33:211:33:24

Police, with help from the

military, have been rescuing

1:33:241:33:26

drivers trapped in snow,

as blizzards continue

1:33:261:33:27

to sweep across the UK.

1:33:281:33:30

Thousands of schools are closed,

and 5,000 homes in the north-west

1:33:301:33:32

of England are without electricity.

1:33:321:33:35

Dozens of volunteers have been

helping drivers left

1:33:351:33:37

stranded on the M62.

1:33:371:33:40

Highways England are warning

there will be no suitable

1:33:401:33:42

cross-Pennine routes

until weather conditions improve.

1:33:421:33:47

On the A31 through the New Forest

in Hampshire, police declared

1:33:471:33:50

a major incident and brought

in the army to help clear the road.

1:33:501:33:54

Traffic on the eastbound carriageway

became stuck and the road was closed

1:33:541:33:57

for nearly 10 hours.

1:33:571:34:00

Hundreds of drivers became

stranded on the A303

1:34:001:34:02

in Wiltshire and Somerset.

1:34:021:34:04

Many had to spent the night

in their cars, with temperatures

1:34:041:34:07

as low as minus 10 degrees.

1:34:071:34:13

The driver of a bus filmed swerving

to avoid a car in Scotland

1:34:131:34:16

yesterday has been talking

about the dramatic moment

1:34:161:34:18

she skidded through the traffic.

1:34:181:34:19

The footage was filmed

on a dashcam in Edinburgh.

1:34:191:34:21

Charmaine Laurie, who was driving

the number 11 bus, said she had

1:34:211:34:25

little time to react as the vehicle

in front attempted a u-turn.

1:34:251:34:30

It was just as I come

up over the hill.

1:34:301:34:34

I just saw light through the snow,

the car did a U-turn in front of me.

1:34:341:34:40

I didn't have much time to react,

I just tap the break but my back end

1:34:401:34:43

started to slide out.

1:34:441:34:47

-- tapped the brake.

1:34:471:34:52

I had to take my foot off

the brake and try and glide

1:34:521:34:56

it to the was there.

1:34:561:34:57

Theresa May will make a speech

later, explaining the relationship

1:34:571:34:59

the government wants

with the EU after Brexit.

1:34:591:35:01

Mrs May will promise to deliver

the change that people voted

1:35:011:35:04

for in the referendum,

while protecting jobs and security.

1:35:041:35:06

Mrs May will set five tests

to guide the negotiations,

1:35:061:35:08

which include strengthening the UK

and bringing all its

1:35:081:35:11

people together.

1:35:111:35:14

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

1:35:141:35:18

Here's some sport now

with Olly Foster.

1:35:181:35:26

Phil Neville is off to a winning

start in charge of the England

1:35:261:35:30

Lionesses. They are playing a

friendly tournament in the US and

1:35:301:35:34

thrashed France 4-1 in Ohio.

The second defeat for Arsenal by Man

1:35:341:35:39

City in the space of five days. 3-0

against, they are ten points from

1:35:391:35:44

the Premier League top four and 30

points of City.

1:35:441:35:48

They are 16 points clear. Britain

plasma gold... Mentor gold in the

1:35:481:35:55

world cycling Championships, Laura

Kenny helped the women to silver.

1:35:551:35:57

Laura Muir won the 3000 metres

bronze on the first day of the world

1:35:571:36:02

indoor athletics Championships in

Birmingham.

1:36:021:36:04

That is all from me, I will be back

on Newsroom Live After 11am.

1:36:041:36:12

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have

invited more than 2,000 people,

1:36:121:36:15

including 1,200 members

of the public, into the grounds

1:36:151:36:18

of Windsor Castle to watch

the arrival and departure

1:36:181:36:20

of the bride and groom

at their wedding.

1:36:201:36:22

Kensington Palace says those invited

will include people "from every

1:36:221:36:24

corner of the United Kingdom".

1:36:241:36:25

Our Royal Correspondent

Nicholas Witchell is here.

1:36:251:36:29

So what more to we know?

They said

shortly after their engagement that

1:36:291:36:34

they wanted as many members of the

public to feel part of the

1:36:341:36:38

celebration as possible, a few weeks

ago they said there would be the

1:36:381:36:41

carriage procession out of the

castle to the centre of winter into

1:36:411:36:44

the great Park. They have announced,

as you mentioned, 2600 people will

1:36:441:36:49

be invited into Windsor Castle and

of those 1200 will be members of the

1:36:491:36:55

public who will be nominated by

officers of the Lord Lieutenant, the

1:36:551:37:00

Queen's representative in different

counties around the UK. The couple

1:37:001:37:04

has said this will be people from

every corner of the UK and they have

1:37:041:37:08

asked that people should be chosen

from a broad range of backgrounds

1:37:081:37:12

and ages, including young people who

have shown strong leadership and

1:37:121:37:17

those who have served their

communities. You can't write in or

1:37:171:37:23

ask to be invited, applied, it will

be up to the multi-tenants at nine

1:37:231:37:28

regional centres to identify these

peoples. -- it will be up to the

1:37:281:37:34

lordly tenants. I imagine a

preponderance of young people

1:37:341:37:37

because clearly the young people

want to address that constituency.

1:37:371:37:43

1200 people will be inside Windsor

Castle, there will also be people

1:37:431:37:47

from charities and organisations

that the couple has an affinity

1:37:471:37:52

with. Invictus Games, Wild Child,,

some of those things. There will be

1:37:521:37:58

100 pupils from local schools, 600

members of the Windsor Castle

1:37:581:38:03

community. You forget that people

live inside Windsor Castle. And not

1:38:031:38:08

forgetting more than 500 Royal

household members.

Those

1:38:081:38:11

schoolchildren will have an amazing

day.

Some party!

Thank you for

1:38:111:38:16

coming.

1:38:161:38:19

Michael was killed in a coach crash

caused by a tyre which had not been

1:38:191:38:31

changed for 20 years and was older

than Michael himself blowing out. We

1:38:311:38:35

will speak to his mother later.

1:38:351:38:36

The Prime Minister Theresa May

will make a speech this lunchtime,

1:38:361:38:39

which will set out the Government's

latest position on Brexit,

1:38:391:38:41

detailing five "tests"

which the exit deal must pass.

1:38:411:38:43

Plans for what should happen

to the Irish border have caused

1:38:431:38:46

a lot of headaches this week,

with the UK and the EU clashing

1:38:461:38:49

on how it can be monitored

without physical border checks.

1:38:491:38:52

Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

faced a lot of criticism

1:38:521:38:54

after he suggested it could be

managed as easily as London's

1:38:541:38:56

congestion charging zone.

1:38:561:38:58

Meanwhile, former Prime Minister Sir

John Major has used a rare

1:38:581:39:00

speech to suggest MPs should be

given a free vote on the final

1:39:001:39:03

Brexit deal, or perhaps

a second referendum.

1:39:031:39:05

So we've heard plenty

from politicians this week,

1:39:051:39:07

but what do voters think?

1:39:071:39:10

Well, joining us now are four voters

all with varying views on Brexit.

1:39:101:39:15

We have Alpesh Patel in West London,

who voted to remain in the EU

1:39:151:39:18

but now wants to leave.

1:39:181:39:21

Ryan Stewart, who lives

in the Republic of Ireland next

1:39:211:39:24

to the Irish border.

1:39:241:39:32

Dami Olatuiy, from North London.

1:39:321:39:33

He voted Leave and says

the government has wasted

1:39:331:39:35

the last 18 months.

1:39:351:39:36

And from Fife, Alasdair Clark,

who says Scotland is being ignored

1:39:361:39:39

in the Brexit debate.

1:39:391:39:42

Thank you all for speaking to us. I

am interested what you make of these

1:39:421:39:47

reports this morning that there will

be five tests that Theresa May says

1:39:471:39:53

any deal will have to meter. Dami,

do you think that is a sensible step

1:39:531:39:59

forward?

It makes sense in the

context of a negotiation, you need

1:39:591:40:03

to have a deal that meet certain

standards before you proceed with it

1:40:031:40:07

for the country. My concern is about

the wasted 20 months we have had

1:40:071:40:12

since the referendum. The Government

has not been able to come up with an

1:40:121:40:17

actual consensus of what it was

trying to achieve during that time.

1:40:171:40:21

I concern is about the wasted time

we have had over that period. -- my

1:40:211:40:27

concern is. It has been unclear what

the Government wanted and it does

1:40:271:40:31

not make sense for people to say it

is clear what they want in terms of

1:40:311:40:36

an exit negotiation.

Alpesh, what do you make of the five

1:40:361:40:40

tests? Do you think we have been

given enough information?

1:40:401:40:45

The fifth element really interested

me, the Prime Minister said it will

1:40:451:40:48

have to be something that the people

have voted on. Whatever the final

1:40:481:40:53

treaty agreement is it has to be

what is in the mind, however you

1:40:531:40:57

discern that, of the people. For me,

one of the reasons I change my mind

1:40:571:41:02

is that this is such an anti-vested

interest vote, this desire to leave,

1:41:021:41:09

Brexit, is by its very nature

anti-vested interest,

1:41:091:41:13

anti-entitlement. People like me and

business have added weight too could

1:41:131:41:16

issue. When I speak to my friends

from the north, where I am from, is

1:41:161:41:22

when people say we have to invest

more in these areas we have

1:41:221:41:26

neglected, people are angry. They

want to leave because we have

1:41:261:41:29

neglected them. I am pleased they

are getting the investment into

1:41:291:41:32

those areas which have never had the

kind of lifestyles we have taken for

1:41:321:41:39

granted out of London, people like

me have taken for granted, people

1:41:391:41:42

who have had it too easy, too long.

Does it coincide with what people

1:41:421:41:48

wanted? Those people who voted exit,

does it? It will be difficult to

1:41:481:41:53

discern. It will make people like me

uncomfortable, which is probably

1:41:531:41:58

good.

Ryan, clearly with you living

very close to the Irish border, all

1:41:581:42:04

the conversation about what will

happen to the border, soft, hard,

1:42:041:42:12

what have a common regulatory area,

something Theresa May says she would

1:42:121:42:16

never sign up to?

I think it makes

sense to begin with. When you

1:42:161:42:21

mention the likes of the tests being

proposed, I don't think any tests

1:42:211:42:28

will work, simply because you have

the DUP in the mix as well as the

1:42:281:42:33

Tory party, and they are relying on

the DUP for the support. The DUP

1:42:331:42:37

does not want a border in the Irish

Sea, nobody wants to see a hard

1:42:371:42:43

border or a physical border around

the six counties in Northern

1:42:431:42:46

Ireland. I do not see how any of

this will actually work. It is

1:42:461:42:51

interesting as well that one of the

other guests has mentioned about the

1:42:511:42:55

deprivation in the North of England

and so one. I live in Donegal, I am

1:42:551:43:01

from Derry in Northern Ireland. In

Donegal's context it is probably the

1:43:011:43:05

most deprived area of the Republic

of Ireland, in Derry's context it is

1:43:051:43:10

probably the most deprived area of

the UK. Both areas overwhelmingly

1:43:101:43:16

want a Remain vote.

I want to bring

in Alasdair in Fife, Scotland

1:43:161:43:23

clearly voting to Remain in the EU

referendum. What do you want to hear

1:43:231:43:28

from Theresa May today?

I think so

far with the Brexit negotiations, we

1:43:281:43:33

have not really heard anything

proper. So far all we have really

1:43:331:43:39

heard, a couple of speeches from

Theresa May. The bulk has been leaks

1:43:391:43:44

from the government and things like

that. What people are overwhelmingly

1:43:441:43:48

in Scotland are saying is they do

not trust the UK Government as

1:43:481:43:53

negotiating a deal for Scotland.

Scotland obviously voted to remain

1:43:531:43:58

and people here are really quite

annoyed about it, actually, that

1:43:581:44:04

this situation is ongoing and does

not make any sense to them but, you

1:44:041:44:08

know, all we keep hearing is Brexit

means Brexit, we do not really hear

1:44:081:44:14

much more than slogans. It seems

like the whole thing is in Deseret.

1:44:141:44:19

Dami, do you want to hear from

Theresa May in this third large

1:44:191:44:23

racks that speech more detail about

what specifically will happen, what

1:44:231:44:28

we will negotiate on for this deal?

-- Dami, do you want to hear in this

1:44:281:44:40

third large Brexit speech.

It is

about the Government knowing what it

1:44:401:44:42

wants when it goes to the EU.

Alasdair says he wants to hear it,

1:44:421:44:47

lots of people say that.

I am more

interested in hearing the detail at

1:44:471:44:55

the stage of a parliamentary vote on

the final deal. I want the

1:44:551:44:59

Government to know what it wants and

I want that to be in line with the

1:44:591:45:03

result of the referendum, but I do

not necessarily need to hear all the

1:45:031:45:07

details. I believe most of the

public, even though we are having

1:45:071:45:11

this discussion, do not know what

different things about the single

1:45:111:45:15

market and the customs union and so

on, I do not believe they

1:45:151:45:19

necessarily know what those things

are. My concern is really more about

1:45:191:45:22

the difference between the Northern

Ireland issue on the Scottish issue,

1:45:221:45:27

because obviously we have this issue

by yesterday the Prime Minister said

1:45:271:45:31

within half an hour there will be no

border between Ireland and Northern

1:45:311:45:39

Ireland, nobody in the Irish Sea and

no customs union. We know all three

1:45:391:45:44

things cannot be true at the same

time. If you give Northern Ireland

1:45:441:45:49

the chance to have some kind of

regulatory alignment with the rest

1:45:491:45:52

of the EU, how do you deny that to

Scotland? Those are the questions I

1:45:521:45:56

am really interested in. Because of

that I actually think there will be

1:45:561:46:00

some kind of hard border in Northern

Ireland and I think that is because

1:46:001:46:04

the Government is prepared to

sacrifice anything to get there.

1:46:041:46:12

Alpesh, do you agree with the point

Dami made, people don't understand

1:46:131:46:17

the jargon, it is confusing and we

are hearing different things and

1:46:171:46:22

regulation this. Have we got our

mind around this.

I would be shocked

1:46:221:46:27

if we have. The Bank of England said

even before the Brexit vote it would

1:46:271:46:33

be carnage, the amount we pay on our

national debt will shoot up and we

1:46:331:46:37

are going to be on our knees,

effectively. It was fearful stuff.

1:46:371:46:43

The experts don't even know what the

heck is going on. I am telling you

1:46:431:46:48

as an expert in this field of

finance, for instance, we are

1:46:481:46:53

getting it wrong. Because we didn't

anticipate that actually we would

1:46:531:46:57

see inward investment from the likes

of Google and Facebook. We didn't

1:46:571:47:01

anticipate back

1:47:011:47:11

coming in because of the cheaper

pound. We didn't realise the

1:47:131:47:15

interest we pay on our national debt

is a huge drain from where the money

1:47:151:47:18

could go for instance, the NHS. The

interest rate dropped because the

1:47:181:47:20

rest of the world said, we need a

safe haven after Brexit, let's give

1:47:201:47:23

our money to British. We, the

experts from the Bank of England

1:47:231:47:25

downwards, but getting it wrong. How

the public supposed to understand

1:47:251:47:30

it?

Ryan, what do you make of this

suggestion by the former Prime

1:47:301:47:34

Minister, Sir John Major, about

there should maybe be a second

1:47:341:47:38

referendum?

While I take on board,

the people have spoken once, I don't

1:47:381:47:47

think anybody has a clue about what

is going on with Brexit. They have

1:47:471:47:51

said Brexit means Brexit from the

start but there never has been an

1:47:511:47:54

explanation. The ordinary voter

didn't know what the customs union

1:47:541:48:00

was. The knock-on effects, 40 years

of legislation. The EU have just

1:48:001:48:07

finished the Canadian trade deal,

that took six years to put in place.

1:48:071:48:11

How does Britain expect to go around

the world and come up with these new

1:48:111:48:16

deals? Donald Trump is talking about

a levy on steel imports, that will

1:48:161:48:21

affect Britain and any trade deal

they tried to do. It is inevitable

1:48:211:48:24

there will be a second referendum.

The politics that plays along with

1:48:241:48:29

this, I suppose I am sitting here in

Donegal with a unique perspective in

1:48:291:48:33

terms of knowing what it is like

with the DUP and having to deal with

1:48:331:48:37

that side of things. The DUP will

withdraw the confidence arrangements

1:48:371:48:45

if they go against, if the Tory

party go against what the DUP want.

1:48:451:48:51

It is inevitable. You have to look

back what Theresa May has done in

1:48:511:48:55

all of this, calling the election

prematurely, she her majority

1:48:551:49:00

because of that. Every step along

the way, bringing the DUP into the

1:49:001:49:05

mix, you could argue it is a

contravention of the Good Friday

1:49:051:49:09

Agreement.

You think Theresa May has

boxed herself into a corner so she

1:49:091:49:15

will be forced to head for a second

referendum.

She doesn't have a leg

1:49:151:49:18

to stand on.

Thank you all for your

thoughts this morning.

1:49:181:49:32

There is currently no law that

stipulates how old tyre used on

1:49:431:49:48

public transport should be,

something Michael Munn's Francis,

1:49:481:49:51

who joins us now is campaigning to

change. Tell me first of all a

1:49:511:49:57

little bit about Michael?

Michael

was 18, he had only just turned 18

1:49:571:50:04

by about a month and he was a

musician. He was a very gifted and

1:50:041:50:08

talented musician. He was very

well-known, particularly in

1:50:081:50:13

Liverpool for his talent. When we

lost Michael, what we wanted to do

1:50:131:50:17

is sure people remembered him for

who he was on how he died. We

1:50:171:50:26

released one of his songs, Rise And

Fall and it made the top 40. He was

1:50:261:50:33

somebody who was on the cusp of

being signed into the music

1:50:331:50:36

industry, he was very excited coming

home to wait to hear the news from

1:50:361:50:43

the festival. Unfortunately, he

didn't make it.

If I take you back

1:50:431:50:47

to that day, you found out about the

crash and that Michael had been

1:50:471:50:54

involved in the crash, through your

son?

Yes, it was the morning I was

1:50:541:50:59

up early. I had a presentation to do

for work and I was a bit distracted.

1:50:591:51:04

My elder son came in and said, have

you heard from Michael? I said no,

1:51:041:51:10

why? He said, I need you to sit

down. And I said, what's happened?

1:51:101:51:16

And I had that awful feeling you

get. Zach, who he was travelling

1:51:161:51:20

with had been airlifted to hospital

with a broken back because there has

1:51:201:51:26

been a serious crash. We put the

news on and it was headline news. We

1:51:261:51:32

rank every number, we rang local

police, we rang the police in Surrey

1:51:321:51:37

and every hospital and we couldn't

get any information whatsoever. So

1:51:371:51:41

around midday, of course people have

gathered to my house and we saw the

1:51:411:51:47

news was saying the body of a young

male, 20-year-old male has been

1:51:471:51:53

removed from the scene. So I

actually really believed that cannot

1:51:531:51:56

be Michael because nobody could get

this so wrong. They couldn't do this

1:51:561:52:01

and have this on national television

without informing the family first.

1:52:011:52:04

So we headed down to Surrey. I had

no clue. I involved the city mayor

1:52:041:52:14

Joe Anderson at the time because I

couldn't get any response. He

1:52:141:52:18

contacted Surrey Police and I

eventually got a phone call but we

1:52:181:52:23

were in Surrey. We were taken to a

hospital we had rang several times

1:52:231:52:27

and given the worst news of my life.

I know you have received a formal

1:52:271:52:31

apology from the police the way it

was handled?

I have, it was

1:52:311:52:39

catastrophic. The worst day ever and

it was handled so badly. They use

1:52:391:52:43

the system which is dated from the

60s and it didn't work on that day

1:52:431:52:47

and everybody thought somebody else

was doing something. It was

1:52:471:52:52

massively traumatic. And as you can

see, it still is.

The trauma of

1:52:521:52:57

losing your son anyway, but for it

to be dealt with in that way. You

1:52:571:53:01

are trying to come to terms with

everything that has happened and

1:53:011:53:09

comprehended and move forward with

family life as much as you can. At

1:53:091:53:12

what point did you discover the

cause of the crash?

It was at the

1:53:121:53:15

inquest in the following year in

2013. It took a long time to get the

1:53:151:53:19

inquest because the police were

doing a lot of investigating into

1:53:191:53:23

the crash and into the coach

operator Mersey Pride. And when we

1:53:231:53:31

got to the inquest in Surrey, we had

a barrister and he took us into a

1:53:311:53:36

room and my sons and Michael's dad

and he said, I need you to sit down

1:53:361:53:41

because the cause of this crash was

a 19-year-old tyre but it is legal.

1:53:411:53:47

He said, I am absolutely

flabbergasted. Even he didn't know

1:53:471:53:50

that tires that old were illegal.

Unfortunately, this verdict is

1:53:501:53:56

likely to come back as accidental

death.

So the point is, now it is

1:53:561:54:01

judged on thread of a tyre tread,

rather than the age. But you want

1:54:011:54:08

that to change and you have been

campaigning for that to change, what

1:54:081:54:12

age do you think is acceptable to be

used on a coach?

I started off with

1:54:121:54:19

the manufacturer's guarantee age,

which would be five to six years. I

1:54:191:54:23

did meet the former Transport

Secretary, Patrick Magoffin. We did

1:54:231:54:29

say between us, we can look at an

age of around ten years. Regardless

1:54:291:54:33

of the outward condition and

regardless if the tyre was brand-new

1:54:331:54:37

and never been used, the fact it is

ten years old, it cannot be saved

1:54:371:54:42

because it is rubber. We have

campaigned since that day. Hat-trick

1:54:421:54:47

Magoffin put out guidance. He didn't

go far enough. We said, if you are

1:54:471:54:52

prepared to put out guidance, why

not legislate. If the crash happened

1:54:521:54:57

today, those operators would not

face prosecution, which is the only

1:54:571:55:02

deterrent which would stop this

happening.

Let me read this

1:55:021:55:05

statement. It says existing guidance

in this area has proven to be

1:55:051:55:09

effective since 2012 but we want to

go further to examine the issue of

1:55:091:55:13

tyre ageing in detail. I am

delighted to announce we have asked

1:55:131:55:18

the experts to collect robust

evidence on this issue. We have some

1:55:181:55:21

of the safest roads in the world but

we are always looking to make them

1:55:211:55:24

safer still. Does that satisfy you?

No, that is a stalling tactic for

1:55:241:55:31

Jessye Norman. It shows the campaign

has put so much pressure on the

1:55:311:55:35

government that it has had to do

something. This is going to cost a

1:55:351:55:39

quarter of £1 million, this research

and it is a complete waste of public

1:55:391:55:43

money. We have had two coroners

writing to the government about tyre

1:55:431:55:49

ageing and the dangers of old tyres.

My son was 18, Kerry Upton was 23

1:55:491:55:55

and the driver died. Three people

have already died and four them to

1:55:551:56:00

commission research, which will

prolong the process even more. They

1:56:001:56:04

promised me this for four and a half

years. This is going to be published

1:56:041:56:08

until next summer. It is a way, I

think, of the government sitting on

1:56:081:56:13

their hands, very expensive way of

doing. Also, they don't have a great

1:56:131:56:18

track record in of robust research.

I have very little confidence in it.

1:56:181:56:24

The statistics Jessye Norman and

uses, I don't know where they come

1:56:241:56:28

from, I don't know who these

operators are they asked ping. But

1:56:281:56:33

if we do use his statistics and he

says there are a few operators out

1:56:331:56:39

there using old tyres, legislate

because it won't affect that many

1:56:391:56:43

people. National Express coach, some

of the big operators have welcomed

1:56:431:56:47

this because they want to operate

safe business, like you would expect

1:56:471:56:52

them to do.

Francis, thank you for

coming in and sharing your story.

1:56:521:57:03

More now on the weather disruption.

1:57:031:57:06

A Met Office red "danger to life"

warning covering south-west England

1:57:061:57:09

and south Wales has been lifted,

but amber and yellow alerts

1:57:091:57:12

for snow, ice and wind

are still widely in force,

1:57:121:57:14

as blizzard conditions continue

to affect much of the country.

1:57:141:57:19

Let's talk to Petty Officer Jimmy

Cantwell, who was out last night

1:57:191:57:22

rescuing people from the snow

in Cornwall and joins us

1:57:221:57:24

via webcam Jimmy is from 829

Naval Air Squadron, one

1:57:241:57:27

of the Merlin helicopter Squadrons

based at Royal Naval Air Station

1:57:271:57:29

Culdrose in Cornwall.

1:57:291:57:30

What we're doing last night? We our

friends, we got a call and we went

1:57:301:57:37

to lend a hand. When we got to the

scene, it was worse than expected.

1:57:371:57:40

We've dug him out of the stale and

rescued three or four other guys who

1:57:401:57:44

were in the same boat.

Were you

worried, frightened being out there,

1:57:441:57:49

it must have been difficult

conditions?

Pretty horrific, when we

1:57:491:57:54

got round the corner from going from

nothing into the wind and the

1:57:541:57:58

snowdrifts of the airfield, some of

them were up over the bonnet of the

1:57:581:58:04

smaller cars.

You are home now and

save and you have helped some

1:58:041:58:07

people.

Back to work as normal.

Thank you for speaking to us and

1:58:071:58:14

well done for helping other people

out.

1:58:141:58:18

BBC Newsroom Live is coming up next.

1:58:181:58:19

Thank you for your company today.

1:58:191:58:21

Have a good day.

1:58:211:58:31

With Chloe Tilley.

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