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Hello, it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
I'm Victoria Derbyshire,
welcome to the programme. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:18 | |
Top story today, The Shape Of Water,
about a woman who falls in love with | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
a sea creature has taken Best
picture at the Oscars. Gary Oldman | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
picks up Best actor and Frances
McDormand Best actress. If I may be | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
so honoured to have all the female
nominees in every category stand | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
with me in this room tonight. The
actors, Meryl | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
with me in this room tonight. The
actors, Meryl, if you do it, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:39 | |
everyone else will. The film-makers,
producers, directors, writers... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:47 | |
Throughout the programme we'll hear
from some of the winners | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
and tell you everything you need
to know about who won what. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
Should trans-women be able to use
female changing rooms, women only | 0:00:52 | 0:00:58 | |
swimming pools, domestic violence
refuges? The issues causing rows for | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
trans-women. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
I can see how passionate
you are and it seems | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
that you are afraid,
almost, of trans people, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
or trans-women. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
No, I want to clarify
that before we finish. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
Because I am not afraid
of trans people. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
We'll explore the issues today. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:22 | |
And - MPs have accused
Sir Bradley Wiggins and Team Sky | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
of crossing an ethical line
by using drugs in a legal way | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
to enhance their performance. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:28 | |
We'll bring you the details. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:36 | |
Welcome to the programme,
we're live until 11. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:45 | |
Throughout the programme,
the latest breaking | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
news and developing stories. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Theresa May is due to give
a speech annoucin a shake up | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
of planning rules in England
to tackle a housing shortage - | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
She called it a broken markets not
long ago. We will bring you her | 0:01:58 | 0:02:09 | |
speech live from about 10:30am. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
Gary Oldman topped
the British successes at the Oscars | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
- by winning Best Actor
for his transformation | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
into Winston Churchill
in Darkest Hour. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:25 | |
And Frances McDormand picked up
the best actress award, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
turning her acceptance speech
into a rallying cry for more support | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
for women in the industry. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:31 | |
James Cook reports from Hollywood. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
After a year of darkness,
a splash of colour | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
returned to Hollywood. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
The black threads of protest were
gone, although the determination | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
to call "Time's Up" on abuse
and to create a more | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
inclusive industry remained. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:42 | |
If I may be so honoured to have
all the female nominees in every | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
category stand with me
in this room tonight... | 0:02:46 | 0:02:53 | |
Best Actress winner
Frances McDormand had | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
a message for the moguls. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
Look around, ladies and gentlemen,
because we all have stories to tell | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
and projects we need financed. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
And the winner is,
Gary Oldman, Darkest Hour. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:09 | |
For his transformation
into Winston Churchill, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:11 | |
the British actor saw V for victory
and he thanked his | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
98-year-old mother. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
I say to my mother, "Thank
you for your love and support. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
Put the kettle on, I'm
bringing Oscar home." | 0:03:18 | 0:03:25 | |
Congratulations! | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
There were four more British wins,
including one for The Silent Child, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
a short film about a deaf little
girl from Wiltshire. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:35 | |
I made a promise to our 6-year-old
lead actress that I'd sign this | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
speech, and my hands are shaking
a little bit so I apologise. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
Last year, this famous duo
announced the wrong winner. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
No such problem this time. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
The Shape of Water. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
The greatest thing our art does
and our industry does is to erase | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
the lines in the sand. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
We should continue doing that
when the world tells us | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
to make them deeper. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
So inclusion was the theme,
change really is coming | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
to Hollywood was the message. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
James Cook, BBC News, Los Angeles. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:13 | |
A tweet from Simon, Oscars 2010, a
group of over egos that know so | 0:04:17 | 0:04:24 | |
little of People's struggles while
these self service Pack each other | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
on the back and talk about each
other behind their back. It's not | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
newsworthy. Sorry about that. We can
bring you more on the Oscars now | 0:04:30 | 0:04:38 | |
because Colin Paterson is live on
the red carpet at the Vanity fair | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
party. What was the highlight, it
has been a long night for you and | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
the winners. Good morning. The
Vanity fair party is reaching its | 0:04:45 | 0:04:51 | |
end down here. You can see some
people starting to come out and head | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
home to what is the most a list taxi
queue in the whole of Hollywood. The | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
big story of the night from a
British point of view is Gary Oldman | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
winning his first Oscar at the age
of 59. This man has played Dracula, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:10 | |
Sid Vicious, Lee Harvey Oswald. He
has won his Oscar for playing | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
Winston Churchill. We grabbed a word
with him as he arrived with his | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
kids, grandkids, and his new wife,
who he told us he proposed to the | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
set of Winston Churchill, Darkest
Hour, while dressed as Winston | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
Churchill. Even his new grandchild
has Winston as middle name. They | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
have really taken Winston Churchill
on board. The whole family. He gave | 0:05:32 | 0:05:38 | |
a lovely acceptance speech on stage,
saying he would go and visit his | 0:05:38 | 0:05:45 | |
99-year-old mother, 99 later this
year, and he said he would take the | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
Oscar, saying the Oscar is coming
home. Amazing. You said it's the end | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
of the party. Anyone there you want
to grab for us while you are there | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
on the striped black and white
carpet, instead of the red carpet? | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
Guillermo del Toro has not arrived,
the Mexican director who won best | 0:06:01 | 0:06:09 | |
director for The Shape Of Water,
which also won best picture. It's a | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
fantasy film about a mute cleaner
played by English actress Sally | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
Hawkins. She falls in love with a
sea creature. Yes, there is human | 0:06:17 | 0:06:23 | |
and fish sex in this film, that's
what the Academy went four for best | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
picture this year. He hasn't arrived
at the party yet. The composer, who | 0:06:28 | 0:06:35 | |
won best score, he has arrived.
Maybe Guillermo del Toro is off | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
examining the fish in Hollywood.
Always a joy, Colin Paterson. Colin | 0:06:40 | 0:06:46 | |
Paterson on five live in the early
hours of the morning is always a | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
highlight for me at Oscar time. Time
for the rest of the morning's news | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
with Ben Brown in the BBC newsroom. | 0:06:54 | 0:07:00 | |
The cyclist
Sir Bradley Wiggins and Team Sky | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
have been accused of "crossing
an ethical line" in their use | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
of medication, in a report by MPs. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
A report by the Digital, Culture,
Media and Sport committee | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
says the prescriptions were used
to enhance performance rather | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
than just for medical need. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:12 | |
Bradley Wiggins and Team Sky have
strongly refuted the claims. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
And our sports correspondent
will have more on this in a moment. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:22 | |
Thousands of people
in Wales and London | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
and the south east have been | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
without water or told
to limit their use, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
because of burst pipes. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:30 | |
It follows a rapid thaw
after several days of | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
sub-zero temperatures. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:33 | |
It's led to the closure of a number
of schools in Kent, while in London, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
emergency supplies of bottled water
are being distributed. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
Simon Clemison sent this update. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
He spoke to some hit by shortages in
London. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:49 | |
I haven't had a shower today,
unfortunately. There is no water in | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
the taps. No showers, you can't
brush your teeth. And I worked in | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
the pub downstairs and they had no
water so they shut early. You work | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
in a restaurant, what's it like to
come in and find no water? It's | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
critical. Without water you can't do
any business. There is no trade. You | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
can't wash up, you can't prepare
food, you can't operate. I just work | 0:08:11 | 0:08:18 | |
down at the corner, but
unfortunately there is no water from | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
last night. The sink is working now
but I don't know how they will fix | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
all the problems. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
A military helicopter will deliver
emergency supplies this morning in | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Cumbria which have been cut off for
five days by heavy snow. Severe | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
weather wreaked havoc across the
county and some areas will remain | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
isolated for another 48 hours
because it is taking so long to | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
clear the roads. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
The Chinook helicopter will drop
food, coal and logs for heating, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
and electrical heaters. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
United Nations officials in Syria
say they hope an escalation | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
in fighting in the rebel-held
enclave of Eastern Ghouta | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
over the weekend | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
won't stop them taking
in humanitarian supplies today. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
President Assad has given
permission for the aid convoy, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
but said the government's military
offensive to retake | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
the area must continue. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:11 | |
Our correspondent Jeremy Bowen
is with one of those | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
aid convoys and sent this report. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
These are the long-awaited trucks,
the convoy which is due to go into | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
Eastern Ghouta. The first convoy
since the 14th of February. Frankly | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
before that there were very few.
It's not very far from here. There | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
has been steady outgoing fire from a
heavy gun not too far away. This is | 0:09:32 | 0:09:41 | |
the first slight easing of the
siege. It's only temporary, though. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:47 | |
And I think the people in Eastern
Ghouta who get the supplies which | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
the trucks are carrying will be very
pleased to have them. The wider | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
issue here is the Syrians, with
their Russian allies, are pressing | 0:09:55 | 0:10:01 | |
very hard onto Eastern Ghouta, and
if they win here, and indications | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
are that they will, then it will be
a major victory for President Assad | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
and his regime. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
Italy appears to be heading
for a hung Parliament | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
after its general election. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:14 | |
There was a voting shift
towards right-leaning | 0:10:14 | 0:10:15 | |
and populist parties. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
There's no overall majority
but the big winners | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
were the right-wing coalition
of former Prime Minister | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
Silvio Berlusconi,
| 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
and the anti-establishment Five Star
Movement. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
Theresa May is to introduce measures
which could see construction firms | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
which have been slow
to build new homes - | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
refused planning
permission in future. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
The Prime Minister will tell
developers to "step | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
up and do their bit". | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
She'll warn that sitting on land
as its value rises is not acceptable | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
at a time of chronic housing need. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:53 | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC
News - more at 9.30. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:05 | |
Do get in touch with us | 0:11:05 | 0:11:06 | |
throughout the morning -
use the hashtag Victoria LIVE | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
and If you text, you will be charged
at the standard network rate. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
We can get some sports now. The 52
page report, combating doping in | 0:11:12 | 0:11:19 | |
sport. The best part of two years in
the making. It's full of claims, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:27 | |
findings and recommendations from
the group of MPs. The content, we | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
have been aware of some of it
because we have been across those | 0:11:30 | 0:11:38 | |
committee meetings where they have
quizzed Dave Brailsford from British | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
cycling and Team Sky. The crux of it
is the | 0:11:42 | 0:11:49 | |
is the use of TUEs, therapeutic use
exemption certificates, in order to | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
use drugs that would normally be
banned under the Wada code, but it | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
is an athlete or cyclist is not
well, you get one of the Tempo Mac | 0:11:55 | 0:12:01 | |
and you can use it. We were aware of
much of the content of the report, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
but what is quite new is MPs say
they have a trusted source with | 0:12:05 | 0:12:11 | |
confidential information from within
British cycling who claims the use | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
of TUEs pushed an ethical boundary
and that the use of certain | 0:12:15 | 0:12:26 | |
steroids, which Bradley Wiggins used
TUEs, was widely used beyond the | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
recommendation of using any TUEs.
That is what is so damning to the | 0:12:31 | 0:12:37 | |
reputation of British cycling. They
have refuted all these accusations. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
Bradley Wiggins says, I find it so
sad that accusations can be made | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
where people can be accused of
things they have never done, which | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
are then regarded as fact. I
strongly refute the claim that any | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
drug was used without medical need.
There has been a Team Sky response | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
as well. They strongly refute the
serious claim that medication is | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
being used by the team to enhance
performance. They say they are | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
surprised and disappointed that the
committee has chosen to present an | 0:13:05 | 0:13:13 | |
anonymous and potentially malicious
claim in this way without presenting | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
any evidence or giving us an
opportunity to respond. They say | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
it's unfair both to the team and to
the riders in question. Just to | 0:13:19 | 0:13:25 | |
simplify things regarding this TUE,
an interview Bradley Wiggins gave to | 0:13:25 | 0:13:32 | |
Andrew Marr on the BBC about 18
months ago, where he said he used | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
them because he was unwell,
suffering from asthma and pollen | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
allergies, and he used them to get
back to a level playing field. If an | 0:13:40 | 0:13:46 | |
athlete is 75, 80%, you use a TUE,
and these normally banned drugs, to | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
get back to 100%, to get back to a
level laying field, in the words of | 0:13:51 | 0:13:57 | |
Sir Bradley Wiggins. What this
report is asserting and alleging is | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
that the use of TUEs was used for
100% athletes to get them above and | 0:14:00 | 0:14:08 | |
beyond, effectively saying that they
were performance enhancing. And it's | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
not just cycling and Bradley Wiggins
in the spotlight. Who else is | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
highlighted in the report? In
athletics, Sebastian Coe gave | 0:14:16 | 0:14:22 | |
evidence about what exactly he knew
in his role as vice-chairman of the | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
IAAF, of which he is now president.
He said he wasn't aware of some very | 0:14:26 | 0:14:32 | |
serious allegations of Russian
doping. We although what has come to | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
pass since then because these go
back to 2014, 20 13. Any e-mail he | 0:14:36 | 0:14:42 | |
received from Dave Bedford. He said
he did not open an attachment that | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
had some serious allegations. The
MPs have found his evidence to them | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
and to Parliament was misleading.
The IAAF have responded of Lord Coe | 0:14:51 | 0:14:59 | |
today to say they have written to
the committee to explain the | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
complexity of some of the
anti-doping codes, so they will back | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
their man. What has come out of this
is a recommendation that the General | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
Medical Council pursue and
investigate a couple of doctors. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
Doctor Richard Friedman, involved in
the whole British cycling setup. He | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
did not give that much evidence
because he is not well, but they | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
suggest they should pursue him to
find out exactly what he knew about | 0:15:21 | 0:15:27 | |
giving those drugs to British
cyclists. And another doctor who is | 0:15:27 | 0:15:33 | |
now at the Football Association,
part of the England setup. He used | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
to be at UK athletics, and he gave a
supplement injection to Mo Farah | 0:15:36 | 0:15:44 | |
before the London Marathon in 2014.
He did not keep any record of that | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
whatsoever and they are also
recommending that they look into | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
that incident when Mo was given a
supplement by what is now the head | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
of the Football Association's
medical setup. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
Thank you, more on that story at
about 9:45am. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:15 | |
It's estimated that
about 1% of the British | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
population are transgender or gender
non-confirming, yet rows | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
about rights for trans people is one
of the defining issues society | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
is trying to grapple with right now. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:31 | |
Some women, often radical feminists
who are sometimes called terfs - | 0:16:31 | 0:16:38 | |
trans exclusionary radical feminists
- believe that trans | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
women aren't real women,
can pose a danger to other women | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
and therefore shouldn't
be allowed into safe | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
women only spaces
like changing rooms or | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
domestic violence refuges. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:49 | |
But trans women say
you don't need to be born | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
with a vagina to be a woman. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
Often the debate is polarised,
aggressive and offensive. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
We've tried to explore the issues
in a sensitive and nuanced way. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
Rebecca Root, a transgender actor,
who stars in the BBC comedy | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
Boy Meets Girl reports for us. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
You say you want a debate,
but you are called trans-phobic | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
for wanting that debate. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:11 | |
All we're hearing about is all
of people's imagined fears | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
if we make it easier
for you and I to change | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
our birth certificates. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:17 | |
It's playing to this idea that
if you don't believe that | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
a trans woman is a woman,
for example, and a trans | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
man is a man, you're
going against the law. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
I find it incredible that a small
group of women think that they can | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
tell other women who should
and shouldn't represent them. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:37 | |
I'm Rebecca Root, I'm an actor
and a voice teacher. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
And I am also transgender. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
Since I transitioned in 2003,
I've seen a big change in the way | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
that British society now views
and accepts the trans community. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:51 | |
Mostly for the better. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
But there's an increasing number
of complex issues that | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
are still needing to find answers,
so how does society | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
and politicians catch up? | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
How do they find the solutions
so that everybody's happy? | 0:18:04 | 0:18:12 | |
41% of trans people in Britain say
they've experienced a hate crime | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
in the last 12 months
because of their gender identity. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
The Government is currently
consulting on transgender rights, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:31 | |
which has sparked a debate about how
best to shape social | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
policy for the community,
and push for greater equality. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
If you look at the way that
institutions are built in countries, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
they're built around that dichotomy,
the binary between men and women. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
This is how we've been able
to develop women's health care, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:55 | |
right, or how, when we think
about prisons, we've created women's | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
prisons and men's prisons,
because of an assumption | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
about the different needs
and challenges that these two | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
genders face, right? | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
The difficulty then with gender
identity discussions is there's | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
simply no way for governments
to really understand them, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
because they don't fit within that
traditional framework of dividing | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
the general population. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
The UK Government in
particular simply doesn't | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
see transgender people. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
And when I say doesn't
see them, I don't mean | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
that they don't know they exist -
they certainly know they exist. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
Some of the women raising concerns
about these issues say | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
although they just want an open
discussion about them, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
they're being silenced. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:44 | |
Pilgrim Tucker is one of them. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
You say you want a debate. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:53 | |
There's no possible
debate to be had but | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
you are called trans-phobic
for wanting that debate. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
What a lot of people are saying
is that there are very significant | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
differences between trans women
and people who are born women, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
both biological and on the basis
of their different anatomy, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
how they're treated in society
and their experience of the world. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:17 | |
That means a lot of careful thought.
Let's slow down and talk about why | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
women might feel cautious about
having trans-women in their spaces, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:34 | |
places where they will feel
vulnerable. I remember that when I | 0:20:34 | 0:20:40 | |
was transitioning, in an attempt to
lose weight and get myself into | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
shape I joined a gym. I know that I
felt just as vulnerable in a female | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
changing room so far as feeling the
scrutiny of other women's eyes as I | 0:20:49 | 0:21:00 | |
walked into my swimming costume. I
always use a cubicle to get changed | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
inside. And I would never use a
communal shower. I can see how | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
passionate you are, and it seems you
are afraid almost of trans people or | 0:21:09 | 0:21:16 | |
trans-women. No, I want to clarify
that because I'm not afraid of trans | 0:21:16 | 0:21:24 | |
people. Women have very well
grounded, valid reasons to be | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
cautious of men both from personal
experience and the statistics. But I | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
am not afraid of you, did you ever
get the impression I was afraid of | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
you? I don't think you did. Luck I'm
not in a changing room. I don't | 0:21:39 | 0:21:45 | |
think there's anything I've said to
make you believe I am afraid of | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
trans people. We spoke about the
problems of male crimes towards | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
women, OK? My explanation was that
is why women are cautious of trans | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
people. The way in which transgender
people are legally recognised as | 0:21:59 | 0:22:06 | |
something the Government is
consulting on. Today, anyone who | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
wants to legally change their gender
in the UK has to apply for gender | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
recognition certificate, many don't
because they feel the process is | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
long and meaning. To qualify, trans
people don't need to have had | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
surgery but must have lived for two
years in their preferred gender. One | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
way of doing this would be to let
people self declare without the need | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
for medical evidence. We have set
out plans to reform the gender | 0:22:31 | 0:22:38 | |
recognition act, streamlining and de
medicalising the process for | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
changing gender. Because being
trans-is not an illness and it | 0:22:40 | 0:22:46 | |
shouldn't be treated as such. Those
that campaign for the transgender | 0:22:46 | 0:22:53 | |
community, argue that self IDing is
the next step. | 0:22:53 | 0:23:06 | |
the next step. The really
undignified public discourse about | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
gay marriage wasn't really about gay
marriage, it was just an excuse to | 0:23:09 | 0:23:16 | |
-- for people to vent ugly
homophobia. Anyone will be able to | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
walk into a toilet and it will be
the end of the world, and it's | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
nonsense. All we are hearing about
our people's imagined fears about | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
how it will be the end of the world
if we make it easier for you and I | 0:23:27 | 0:23:32 | |
to change our birth to -- birth
certificates and it's misplaced | 0:23:32 | 0:23:40 | |
discourse. But self identification
is not something everyone agrees | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
with. I am opposed to the
Government's new fascination with | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
intervening in relation to GRCs and
self identification. In a society we | 0:23:50 | 0:23:59 | |
can accept, if somebody came up to
me on the street or I was working | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
with them and they said I want you
to call me Bill instead of Billy, as | 0:24:03 | 0:24:09 | |
a generous and understanding person
I would say short and I think most | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
people get on with that and there is
not need to over legalise this issue | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
I think. So why is there a debate?
Because nobody has, as far as I can | 0:24:18 | 0:24:25 | |
tell, nobody has called for this.
There has not been a mass transit | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
activist movement to call for these
law changes. I think the suicide | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
statistics are fairly in our favour
if you like, that there is a great | 0:24:35 | 0:24:41 | |
deal of unhappiness and depression
surrounding not being able to access | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
health care, which having a GRC
would permit. It's playing into this | 0:24:46 | 0:24:56 | |
idea that if you don't believe
trans-woman is a woman for example, | 0:24:56 | 0:25:02 | |
then you are not only the wrong kind
of person in society and bigoted but | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
you are also going against the law,
you are going against what the law | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
is and that should still be up for
debate. Most people who are Charles | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
lived with that all their lives so
for them it is not an overnight | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
thing. We are trying to see the
wider point of view as to why the | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
self identification is such a big
problem. I don't see why it should | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
be. The equality act 2010 protects
trans people from discrimination and | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
anyone who identifies themselves as
a woman, whether it's their legal | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
gender or not, can use single sex
facilities. It does however allow | 0:25:40 | 0:25:47 | |
service providers to refuse a trans
person is access to single sex | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
services if they are seen as
detrimental to others. But does the | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
legislation need updating? You're
saying we will have a new system in | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
a prison to placate the personal
wishes of a few trans people. I am | 0:26:00 | 0:26:05 | |
sounding harsh but that's kind of
what it is. There might be some | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
questions about the need to do that.
It might not be necessary. Where do | 0:26:09 | 0:26:15 | |
you stand on things like trans-women
having access to women's refuges for | 0:26:15 | 0:26:22 | |
example or other single sex spaces?
To be thrown into a situation with | 0:26:22 | 0:26:29 | |
somebody who potentially ostensibly
looks like a man or not all trans | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
women look like... Dress themselves
as men, but for the grey area I | 0:26:34 | 0:26:40 | |
think it is important believe that
as a gender segregated area. There | 0:26:40 | 0:26:46 | |
needs should come first. Relatively
soon after my transition, I was | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
beaten up by three male youths.
Where would I go I was seeking | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
refuge? Where would be a safe place
for me? It's obviously horrible for | 0:26:56 | 0:27:03 | |
you that that happened to you and I
want to be sympathetic but at the | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
same time I think this is the issue.
People's personal experience is one | 0:27:07 | 0:27:17 | |
thing, the political question of
whether or not we deem women only | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
spaces, especially in relation to
rape and violence, are important, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:28 | |
should be kept as separate as
possible because the problem is | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
anecdote and personal feeling,
though important, often trumps the | 0:27:33 | 0:27:39 | |
political question in terms of
policy, law. If I hadn't been | 0:27:39 | 0:27:47 | |
trans-and I was an ordinary person,
and I had daughters, there's a man | 0:27:47 | 0:27:56 | |
coming into women's toilets, I might
have been like, I don't like the | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
sound of that. I do think there are
people with legitimate concerns who | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
don't know what's happening or they
are confused. I think there is a | 0:28:04 | 0:28:11 | |
very small but vocal dedicated group
of people who have a visceral | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
prejudice against trans people, who
are exploiting people's ignorance | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
and confusion. It is playing on
people's visceral prejudices. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:25 | |
Actually there was no evidence that
gay people would harm children by | 0:28:25 | 0:28:31 | |
having gay teachers, there's no
evidence that children adopted by | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
same-sex couples are any more likely
to be in danger. I think it is | 0:28:35 | 0:28:42 | |
really responsible that people are
whipping up this fear against us | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
based on zero evidence. It's not a
debate and I find it offensive it is | 0:28:46 | 0:28:52 | |
framed as a debate. Hatred against
trans people is not a debate. The | 0:28:52 | 0:28:57 | |
issue of trans people in politics is
also making waves. A crowd Fonda has | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
been set up to stop trans-women
being selected for all women short | 0:29:03 | 0:29:10 | |
lists as candidates. Pilgrim took --
pilgrim Tucker has put her name on | 0:29:10 | 0:29:18 | |
the campaign. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:26 | |
the campaign. Women in the Labour
Party really genuinely feel they | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
haven't been listened to and that is
because of the proper usual | 0:29:29 | 0:29:35 | |
processes, we haven't gone through
those. So I think whatever issue it | 0:29:35 | 0:29:45 | |
was, if you are suddenly expected to
expect something -- to accept | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
something with no debate, no
evidence, no rational discussion, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
feeling like you are being called a
bigot just for asking for that | 0:29:53 | 0:29:59 | |
discussion, whatever legislation
that was, whatever social issue that | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
was, it would get people's backs up.
Doctor Heather Peto was a | 0:30:02 | 0:30:13 | |
trans-woman and selected on the
short list. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
I find it incredible that one group
of women could tell other groups of | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
women who can and can't represent
them. If the candidates want to | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
select me they can and if they don't
want to they don't. I don't actually | 0:30:27 | 0:30:36 | |
stop people from standing. The
selection lists could be six or | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
five, and it's up to the local
selection committee how me people | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
stand. It's for members to decide.
I'm as valid a woman as any other | 0:30:44 | 0:30:50 | |
woman. It's just that I have had a
different journey getting there. The | 0:30:50 | 0:30:58 | |
doctor showed me the constituency
she is keen to represent. Although | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
she says people are largely
supportive of her standing, not | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
everyone feels the same. I have been
bombarded with nasty social media | 0:31:05 | 0:31:10 | |
posts and e-mails. It amounts to
abuse, I can't categorise it as | 0:31:10 | 0:31:15 | |
anything else. For standing in the
women only short list and for being | 0:31:15 | 0:31:21 | |
the Labour Party's transgender
officer. I knocked on one of these | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
doors. I was out with a group of
other Labour canvassers and this guy | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
took a dislike to me and chased me
down his pathway. Do you think that | 0:31:29 | 0:31:34 | |
response of being chased like that
was because of your physical | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
leanings or was it more maybe
because you are trams? -- political | 0:31:38 | 0:31:44 | |
leanings. I think it was because I
was trams. Because I was trans. I | 0:31:44 | 0:31:55 | |
think the person was just an angry
person. It's clear from the | 0:31:55 | 0:32:01 | |
conversations I have had and also
from my own experience that although | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
the trans community has come a long
way in fighting for equality and | 0:32:03 | 0:32:09 | |
recognition, there is still a long
way to go. If modern Britain is to | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
find the answers and shape policy
around them, then understanding and | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
respect is key. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
Much more reaction to
come after 10:00am - | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
and of course we're really
keen to hear from you. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
Michelle on Facebook, as a survivor
of domestic violence, I am shocked | 0:32:25 | 0:32:30 | |
trans-women care more about their
rights and the fears of women who | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
have been beaten and traumatised by
men. Survivors of domestic violence | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
often have PTSD for years and
someone who pushes the unwanted | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
presents onto a survivor just to
prove a point needs to look closely | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
at their intentions. Emmett says
women's refuges should be exempt | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
from accepting trans-women. I was in
a refuge for seven months last year | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
and needed a woman only space to
feel safe. Steve says, they are | 0:32:52 | 0:32:58 | |
scared of trans-women. If a man goes
through the transition to be a woman | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
and once they achieve this life
changing journey, they should have | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
the support of society and be
allowed to live as a woman. They are | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
women and should be treated as such.
Do keep your comments coming in. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:15 | |
Coming up before 11am... | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
The mother who's had two
children involved in two | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
separate US school shootings. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:30 | |
We are live at the Vanity Fair
post-Oscars party. In there, the | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
likes of Emma Watson, Drake and Gary
Oldman. I hope they are all dancing | 0:33:34 | 0:33:39 | |
together. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
Time for the latest news -
here's Ben Brown. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
Gary Oldman was the big British
success at the 2018 Oscars, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
collecting the Best Actor Award
for his transformation | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
into Winston Churchill for Darkest
Hour. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
The other big win on the night was
Frances McDormand, who picked up the | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
best actress award and paid tribute
to the other women nominees. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
The cyclist Sir Bradley
Wiggins and Team Sky | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
have been accused of "crossing
an ethical line" in their use | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
of medication, in a report by MPs. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
A report by the Digital, Culture,
Media and Sport committee | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
says the prescriptions were used
to enhance performance rather | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
than just for medical need. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
Bradley Wiggins and Team Sky have
strongly rejected the claims. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:29 | |
Thousands of people
in Wales and London | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
and the south east have been
without water or told | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
to limit their use,
because of burst pipes. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
It follows a rapid thaw
after several days of | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
sub-zero temperatures. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
It's led to school closures
and emergency water distribution. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
A military helicopter will deliver
emergency supplies this | 0:34:44 | 0:34:49 | |
morning to villages in Cumbria, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
which have been cut off
for five days by heavy snow. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
Severe weather wreaked havoc
across the county and some areas | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
will remain isolated for another 48
hours, because it's taking | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
so long to clear roads. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
Theresa May is to introduce
measures to refuse | 0:35:02 | 0:35:07 | |
future planning permissions
to construction | 0:35:07 | 0:35:08 | |
firms which have been
slow to build new homes. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:15 | |
The Prime Minister will say that
sitting on land as its value rises | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
is not acceptable at a time
of chronic housing need. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
That's a summary of
the latest BBC News. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
I will be back at 10am. Another
message from Emma. Women escaping | 0:35:26 | 0:35:33 | |
domestic violence need a safe space.
My son, aged 18, wasn't allowed in | 0:35:33 | 0:35:40 | |
the refuge with me and had to live
with my parents. I understood why. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
Lots of refuges don't allow males
over 16 to live there with their | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
mothers. Refuges need to remain
gender separate. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
Sport now with Olly. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
The headlines this morning, the
England women came from behind twice | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
to draw with Germany at the
SheBelieves Cup. A friendly | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
tournament in the US. Ellen White
scored twice in the 2-2 draw. The | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
England lionesses play the USA next.
Manchester City are 18 points clear | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
at the top of the Premier League
after beating Chelsea 1-0. Bernardo | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
Silva got the goal. Elsewhere
Arsenal lost 2-1 to Brighton. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:22 | |
Rangers are into the Scottish cup
semifinal after beating Falkirk 4-1. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
Jason Cummings scored a hat-trick.
Motherwell also into the last four. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
Kyle Edmund is the new British
number one. Andy Murray had been top | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
for almost 12 years but following
hip surgery he has been out of | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
action and is now 29th in the world.
Edmund reached the Australian open | 0:36:39 | 0:36:44 | |
semifinals and is now up to 24th. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:50 | |
A fantasy film about a woman
who falls in love with a fish has | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
won the Best Picture award
at the Oscars. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
Gary Oldman was named
Best Actor, for his portrayal | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
of Sir Winston Churchill
in Darkest Hour and Frances | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
McDormand, the star of Three
Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
won Best Actress. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:04 | |
Frances McDormand, Three Billboards
Outside Ebbing, Missouri. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
If I may be so honoured to have
all the female nominees stand | 0:37:07 | 0:37:15 | |
in every category stand with me
inside this room tonight. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
The actors, Meryl, if you do it,
everyone else will, come on. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
The film-makers, the producers,
directors, the writers. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:24 | |
The cinematographer.
The composers, the song writers. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:32 | |
OK, look around, everybody. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
Look around, ladies and gentlemen,
because we all have stories to tell | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
and projects we need financed. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:38 | |
Oscar is the most beloved
and respected man in Hollywood. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
And there's a very good reason why. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
Just look at him. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:43 | |
Keeps his hands where
you can see them. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
Never says a rude word. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:51 | |
I did it all by myself! | 0:37:51 | 0:37:52 | |
LAUGHTER. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:58 | |
Of different voices, of our voices. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
Joining together in a mighty chorus
that is finally saying, time's up. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
And the Oscar goes to... | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
Jordan Peele, Get Out. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
This means so much to me. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
I stopped writing this
movie about 20 times | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
because I thought it was impossible. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
I thought it wasn't going to work. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:23 | |
I thought no one would
ever make this movie. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:29 | |
But I kept coming back to it
because I knew if someone let me | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
make this movie then people
would hear it and | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
people would see it. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
And the Oscar goes to... | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
The Shape Of Water. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
CHEERING. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:51 | |
Oh God, hello. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
I made a promise to our
six-year-old lead actress that | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
I'd sign this speech. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
My hands are shaking
a little bit so I apologise. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
Roger A Deakins, Blade Runner 2049. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:18 | |
I say to my mother, thank
you for your love and support. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:25 | |
Put the kettle on, I'm
bringing Oscar home. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:33 | |
Let's go live to the black and white
carpet of the Vanity Fair party. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:45 | |
Colin Paterson, what was the best
bit of the whole night? I will come | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
to that. The things I do for you.
That's the most A-list party in the | 0:39:48 | 0:39:55 | |
world, and every journalist has gone
into it. I'm the only one left here, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
and that's for you. I could be in
their! I could be dancing with Drake | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
and you have denied me! They
wouldn't let you near him. What was | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
the best bit of the night? The three
best bits, Gary Oldman's speech. It | 0:40:08 | 0:40:16 | |
was absolutely charming. At the end
he said he was so delighted to have | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
won this because this year his
mother turns 99. He said he would go | 0:40:19 | 0:40:25 | |
and visit her tomorrow and take his
Oscar home. I believe we can hear | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
from Gary Oldman at this party. She
is probably in bed by now, but I | 0:40:29 | 0:40:35 | |
will be seeing her in the morning.
She has been... She brought me up | 0:40:35 | 0:40:42 | |
and has... I don't know what mum
doesn't want an Oscar for her son | 0:40:42 | 0:40:50 | |
who is an actor. But I think she has
wanted this for me for a long time. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:57 | |
Winston Churchill was famous for his
inspirational speeches. I wonder if | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
he felt any pressure to live up to
them tonight. There is a bit of | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
pressure. There is a wheeled
chemical thing that happens when | 0:41:05 | 0:41:11 | |
your name is called. I can't really
define it, but it's unlike anything | 0:41:11 | 0:41:19 | |
else. And then you've got Meryl
Streep ten feet away staring up at | 0:41:19 | 0:41:26 | |
you, next to Denzel Washington. It's
surreal. It really is. I can't | 0:41:26 | 0:41:31 | |
believe that it says, Academy Awards
to Gary Oldman on it. I'm still a | 0:41:31 | 0:41:40 | |
bit sort of... You know... And he's
had a real influence on your life, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:46 | |
because you now have a grandson who
has been named after Winston | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Churchill. Is that right? My son
Alfie worked on the film. He is a | 0:41:49 | 0:41:55 | |
camera assistant. He was here with
his mum, Leslie, tonight. I don't | 0:41:55 | 0:42:01 | |
know if they are here or not. He had
worked on the movie. When he heard | 0:42:01 | 0:42:08 | |
he was having a son. So his middle
name is Winston. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:15 | |
Amazing for Gary Oldman and his mum.
We can talk about all the winners. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:23 | |
Rhianna Dhillon, film
critic and former R1 | 0:42:23 | 0:42:24 | |
presenter Emma Bullimore,
entertainment reporter Amancay Tapia | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
who's directed award winning short
films like "Rescue Me" and "Campo de | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
Batalla". | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
That's go the big three, best
picture, Best actor and actress. Did | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
the right ones win? I think so.
There were not huge shocks. Shape | 0:42:38 | 0:42:46 | |
Water stole it from three build or
was maybe a bit of a surprise. Gary | 0:42:46 | 0:42:53 | |
Oldman and Frances McDormand were
not surprises. Frances McDormand has | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
made great speeches along the way
and this was another big one. Gary | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
Oldman is one of those awards, it's
a legacy award. It might not be the | 0:43:00 | 0:43:07 | |
best role ever for him but he has
done so many incredible films in his | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
career. The fact this is his very
first Oscar is shocking. What did | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
you think is a director? I think the
Oscars are always a bit predictable | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
and this year for the first time we
had a group of films that were | 0:43:19 | 0:43:27 | |
unpredictable going for best
picture. Is that because they were | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
so good or because it is changing?
They were a bit edgy. We had films | 0:43:30 | 0:43:36 | |
with an independent edge to them.
Films like get out and Lady Bird. In | 0:43:36 | 0:43:43 | |
the end they went for a safe film,
The Shape Of Water. It was the one | 0:43:43 | 0:43:48 | |
film out of all the films that
didn't really make a statement. It | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
was a fantastic film. It didn't have
that many Hollywood elements because | 0:43:52 | 0:43:57 | |
here we have a beauty and the beast
love story where the beauty is not | 0:43:57 | 0:44:04 | |
such a beauty and the beast is not
such a beast. But it's very human. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:14 | |
Were you surprised the Me Too
movement didn't get more of a | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
mention? The fact is Jimmy said it
in his opening monologue, it was a | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
good chance to set everybody else
up, to say that we could talk about | 0:44:21 | 0:44:26 | |
it and we could have that dialogue
and we are not bored of it yet. I | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
was a little bit surprised that more
speeches did not include it. But | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
having said that, there were not
many women on the platform to | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
receive awards. They were giving
them. Which is potentially wide | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
Frances McDormand appealed for all
the female nominees to stand up. I | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
was impressed with Jimmy because he
tackled it head on. He mentioned | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein by
name. He made jokes but also said, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:56 | |
it's not good enough. But it's also
a celebration and a positive night. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
Frances McDormand said it was
difficult for women to get | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
particular projects financed. He
said all the women have ideas, make | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
proper appointments, don't talk to
us at the parties tonight. Do you | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
think it's harder for women to get
projects financed? | 0:45:09 | 0:45:17 | |
I think the issue is about the
people financing the films who | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
cannot make it to the Oscars. They
are majority male and Caucasian, and | 0:45:20 | 0:45:27 | |
probably in their 60s so they relate
to masculine stories. Masculine | 0:45:27 | 0:45:32 | |
stories are seen as universal,
female stories are seen as niche. I | 0:45:32 | 0:45:38 | |
want to ask you about Rachel Shenton
and Chris Overton, Hollyoaks actors | 0:45:38 | 0:45:43 | |
who | 0:45:43 | 0:45:52 | |
who won best live action short film
for The Silent Child, and Rachel did | 0:45:52 | 0:46:00 | |
her acceptance speech in sign
language. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:06 | |
language. There's the disabilities
that are getting left behind, and we | 0:46:07 | 0:46:13 | |
need to be more inclusive across the
board. That was a sweet and lovely | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
way, instead of making a political
it was like this is my way of being | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
inclusive and this is how we can
step it up a little bit. Finally, I | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
want to talk about one particular
outfit, step forward Olympic figure | 0:46:26 | 0:46:39 | |
spectre Adam Rippon and his bondage
outfit -- figure skater. I was more | 0:46:41 | 0:46:48 | |
impressed with the west side story
star who wore the same dress that | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
she wore to the Oscars in 1962,
amazing. I cannot even fit into a | 0:46:52 | 0:47:01 | |
dress I was last week! Incredible.
Thank you. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:08 | |
Coming up... | 0:47:09 | 0:47:10 | |
Theresa May will tell developers
to "step up and do their bit" | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
as she introduces new measures
to punish firms who build | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
houses too slowly. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:16 | |
We'll bring you the Prime Minister's
speech after half past ten. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
Britain's most decorated
Olympian Sir Bradley Wiggins used | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
drugs to enhance his performance. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
That's what MPs on the Culture,
Media and Sport select | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
committee have found. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:33 | |
They say though he didn't break
the rules in doing so, but he | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
crossed an ethical line. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:36 | |
And they've accused the head
of international athletics, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:41 | |
Lord Coe, of being "misleading"
and questioned the use | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
of a substance by Britain's
greatest-ever distance runner, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
Sir Mo Farah. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:47 | |
Sir Bradley Wiggins and Team Sky say
they "strongly refute" the claims. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
In a tweet late last night,
he said he finds it "so sad that | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
accusations can be made,
where people can be accused | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
of things they have never done
which are then regarded as facts. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
I strongly refute the claim that any
drug was used without medical need." | 0:48:00 | 0:48:06 | |
Well, this is Bradley
Wiggins when he was asked | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
about the claims by Andrew Marr
in September 2016. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:16 | |
It was prescribed for allergies and
respiratory problems. I am a | 0:48:16 | 0:48:21 | |
lifelong sufferer of asthma and I
went to 19 doctor at the time, and | 0:48:21 | 0:48:27 | |
we in turn went to a specialist to
see if there was anything else we | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
could do to cure these problems.
This wasn't trying to find a way of | 0:48:31 | 0:48:35 | |
gaining an unfair advantage, it was
about getting back on a level | 0:48:35 | 0:48:41 | |
playing field to compete at a high
level. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:46 | |
The MPs' report calls
on the Team Sky founder | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
and Principal Sir Dave Brailsford
to take responsibility. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:50 | |
Here's our sports correspondent
Andy Swiss asking him | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
about the contents of a 'mystery
package' received by | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
Sir Bradley in 2011. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
Have you been able to provide any
paperwork about the package? We | 0:48:57 | 0:49:05 | |
provided all of the evidence... Have
you been able to provide evidence to | 0:49:05 | 0:49:11 | |
prove what it was? We have given
them everything we have got. I have | 0:49:11 | 0:49:17 | |
said everything I want to say and I
will leave it there, but I have | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
given the paperwork to the right
people. I cannot talk on behalf of | 0:49:21 | 0:49:29 | |
British cycling, they will provide
what they have got. If the fans knew | 0:49:29 | 0:49:34 | |
you had the paperwork, that would
reassure them. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:39 | |
Let's talk now to Tony Doyle,
a former Olympic cyclist, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
British world champion and briefly
president of British Cycling, | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
Diane Modahl who was wrongly accused
of taking testosterone | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
and banned from competing, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
and Labour MP Ian Lucas who's one
of the MPs behind the report. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:58 | |
Essentially an anonymous allegation
is your evidence? There are number | 0:49:58 | 0:50:05 | |
of people from within cycling who
made allegations to the committee | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
who are very concerned about what
was happening and wanted to present | 0:50:07 | 0:50:15 | |
evidence to us. There were multiple
obligations made and we relied on | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
that evidence. So what is the
evidence apart from the allegations? | 0:50:19 | 0:50:25 | |
They'd missed by individuals about
the use of performance enhancing | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
drugs within cycling which was
presented to the committee. Some of | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
the evidence was presented
anonymously by whistle-blowers who | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
did not want to disclose their names
but other people did give their | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
names and they presented the
information. I have to say a lot of | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
this could have been cleared up if
Team Sky had acted professionally in | 0:50:44 | 0:50:50 | |
presenting medical evidence and
retaining medical evidence which | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
they should have had and which they
have never supplied. So all of these | 0:50:52 | 0:50:58 | |
issues were within the control of
Team Sky, but despite repeated | 0:50:58 | 0:51:03 | |
opportunities, they have never
presented the evidence and the cloud | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
that exists over the sport rest
squarely within Team Sky and British | 0:51:06 | 0:51:12 | |
cycling. So Bradley Wiggins says he
finds it sad people can be accused | 0:51:12 | 0:51:19 | |
of things they have never done. We
strongly refute this, we are | 0:51:19 | 0:51:25 | |
surprised and disappointed the
committee has chosen to present an | 0:51:25 | 0:51:30 | |
anonymous and potentially malicious
claims without any evidence, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:38 | |
claims without any evidence, says
Sir Dave Brailsford. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:44 | |
Sir Dave Brailsford. There are
multiple sources. It's an intensely | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
sad day. How do you know they are
not malicious? Dave Brailsford gave | 0:51:46 | 0:51:53 | |
evidence to the committee himself
and could not satisfy us. It was his | 0:51:53 | 0:51:59 | |
responsibility as the manager in
charge to have details of the | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
medical adults that were being used
by his riders within the team. At no | 0:52:03 | 0:52:07 | |
time has he been able to present
that evidence. If he had done so, | 0:52:07 | 0:52:12 | |
all of these issues could have been
dealt with. Do you think you should | 0:52:12 | 0:52:18 | |
now consider his position? It's been
a gross failure of management on his | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
part. Those of us who love sport and
want to have sport that is honest | 0:52:22 | 0:52:27 | |
and straightforward know that today
is a very sad day. We take no | 0:52:27 | 0:52:34 | |
pleasure in presenting this report
but we owe it to the people who | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
presented us with evidence to give
an honest assessment and if Britain | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
wants to hold up its head in the
world on doping, we need to look at | 0:52:41 | 0:52:45 | |
these cases rigorously and present
an honest opinion which is what our | 0:52:45 | 0:52:50 | |
committee has done. Tony Doyle, do
you think Sir Dave Brailsford should | 0:52:50 | 0:52:56 | |
consider his position? Most
definitely. There's no question that | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
ethically rules have been broken,
the line hasn't just been jumped, | 0:52:59 | 0:53:06 | |
cleared marginally, it has been
jumped with a huge margin and they | 0:53:06 | 0:53:12 | |
have taken advantage of the rules to
enhance performance. It is a sport | 0:53:12 | 0:53:17 | |
which I love, which I've had a
fantastic career, I am still | 0:53:17 | 0:53:22 | |
involved and it is a sad day our
sport is being dragged through the | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
mire for the wrong reasons. Although
the committee acknowledged rules | 0:53:26 | 0:53:31 | |
have not been broken. The world
governing body and Wada have got to | 0:53:31 | 0:53:39 | |
look at the rules more closely so
that the steroids can only be used | 0:53:39 | 0:53:45 | |
to treat illnesses. You can use
asthma as a masking agent to use the | 0:53:45 | 0:54:00 | |
TUE fall of the reasons. Would you
ban TUEs? The fact Team Sky have not | 0:54:00 | 0:54:10 | |
kept records... I mean how do you
react to the fact there are no | 0:54:10 | 0:54:14 | |
records? Apparently Bradley Wiggins'
information was on a laptop that got | 0:54:14 | 0:54:23 | |
stolen. That is very convenient, and
very convenient records were not | 0:54:23 | 0:54:28 | |
kept and we are told Team Sky and
British cycling are not sharing | 0:54:28 | 0:54:37 | |
staff or personnel but they are
still sharing the same building. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
They are both working out of the
national cycling Centre so there's a | 0:54:41 | 0:54:45 | |
direct conflict of interest. I want
to ask about Mo Farah, MPs found he | 0:54:45 | 0:54:52 | |
was given a drug before the 2014
London Marathon. | 0:54:52 | 0:55:01 | |
What you think about the doctor did
according to the MP report? Bradley | 0:55:10 | 0:55:18 | |
Wiggins is correct about one thing,
neither him nor Mo Farah had tested | 0:55:18 | 0:55:26 | |
positive for drugs in sport and the
report go so much further than what | 0:55:26 | 0:55:31 | |
we are hearing about today. It goes
to the Court of the governance of | 0:55:31 | 0:55:36 | |
the IAAF, the way the organisation
is directed and controlled. We know | 0:55:36 | 0:55:41 | |
the record-keeping has been very
poor. We know that the ethics and | 0:55:41 | 0:55:45 | |
the moral credibility of the
organisation has been in question | 0:55:45 | 0:55:50 | |
for a long time, and what the
parliamentary report does today is | 0:55:50 | 0:55:54 | |
confirm everything that most of us
are aware of and have been saying | 0:55:54 | 0:55:58 | |
for a long time, that the code of
conduct, the duty of care that the | 0:55:58 | 0:56:05 | |
IAAF have to all innocent athletes
is not up to standard and that | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
cannot continue because what it will
mean is that innocent athletes will | 0:56:09 | 0:56:14 | |
actually find themselves in a really
difficult and uncomfortable | 0:56:14 | 0:56:19 | |
situation because the governance,
the people who are there to protect | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
us are not doing their job in the
way they should be doing it. This | 0:56:22 | 0:56:30 | |
issue of poor record-keeping, which
you say makes it harder for clean | 0:56:30 | 0:56:34 | |
athletes to clear their names
effectively, how do you react to the | 0:56:34 | 0:56:38 | |
fact the international governing
body is not making sure that really | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
basic record-keeping is done? It is
shocking, it goes to the heart of | 0:56:42 | 0:56:50 | |
the trust, the carer and
independents that athletes need to | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
have, and need to be reassured that
every time they go on a bike or step | 0:56:53 | 0:56:59 | |
on the start line that they are
protected. It talks about the | 0:56:59 | 0:57:04 | |
behaviour so the individuals who are
sitting around the table and | 0:57:04 | 0:57:09 | |
governing the sport, is there enough
scrutiny, is there enough challenge | 0:57:09 | 0:57:13 | |
coming from those people who have
not the passion, because we are all | 0:57:13 | 0:57:18 | |
passionate about sport, we love
sport, but passion is not going to | 0:57:18 | 0:57:23 | |
fix this problem. It is going to be
a strategic, credible, well governed | 0:57:23 | 0:57:28 | |
organisation with the right skills
and the right knowledge and | 0:57:28 | 0:57:32 | |
expertise at around that table, and
clearly that is not there at the | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
moment. Therefore are you saying
Lord Coe should consider his | 0:57:35 | 0:57:42 | |
position? I think he wants to fix
this problem and he should | 0:57:42 | 0:57:47 | |
absolutely be looking at his team.
He should be looking around his | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
table and saying, are these the
right people in terms of the | 0:57:51 | 0:57:56 | |
behaviours, the trust, the
independent judgment, the openness, | 0:57:56 | 0:58:01 | |
the objectivity, the selflessness
that it requires to get it right at | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
governance level. What the report
confirms is that there are far too | 0:58:05 | 0:58:10 | |
many cracks within the governance
system for us to be reliably | 0:58:10 | 0:58:16 | |
reassured that Lord Coe has got that
right at the moment. Thank you, | 0:58:16 | 0:58:23 | |
Diane Modahl. And you heard from Ian
Lucas, and Tony Doyle, thank you | 0:58:23 | 0:58:29 | |
very much. Former president of
British cycling. Team Sky and so | 0:58:29 | 0:58:35 | |
Bradley Wiggins and say they
strongly refute the claims. Now the | 0:58:35 | 0:58:39 | |
Bradley Wiggins and say they
strongly refute the claims. Now the | 0:58:39 | 0:58:39 | |
weather with Carol. It will remain
unsettled, but is extreme weather as | 0:58:39 | 0:58:44 | |
we had last week. Some fabulous
pictures to show you, the first one | 0:58:44 | 0:58:49 | |
shows quite an icy scene and the
next one is a very similar story in | 0:58:49 | 0:58:53 | |
that there is a fair bit of cloud
around in Newquay in Cornwall. Today | 0:58:53 | 0:58:59 | |
the cloud will thicken where we
currently have sunshine, and more | 0:58:59 | 0:59:03 | |
rain will spread in. Meanwhile we
have snow across the Scottish hills, | 0:59:03 | 0:59:09 | |
above about 200 metres. What's
happening is low pressure is still | 0:59:09 | 0:59:13 | |
governing our weather and it be with
us for much of the week, although | 0:59:13 | 0:59:18 | |
not much in the way of wind. In
Scotland there will still be a | 0:59:18 | 0:59:24 | |
noticeable wind-chill. If we start
in Scotland, we have the snow | 0:59:24 | 0:59:31 | |
largely in the hills, at lower
levels it's more likely to be sleet | 0:59:31 | 0:59:35 | |
or rain, then the showers in the
south-west and Wales replaced by | 0:59:35 | 0:59:39 | |
rain slowly moving northwards. After
a sunny start the cloud will build | 0:59:39 | 0:59:44 | |
and temperatures milder in the
south, but in the north still cold. | 0:59:44 | 0:59:49 | |
Don't forget in north-east Scotland
we have the wind-chill to add-on as | 0:59:49 | 0:59:53 | |
well. Overnight weather front
producing this rain migrates | 0:59:53 | 0:59:59 | |
northwards, engages with the cold
air, and indeed once again we will | 0:59:59 | 1:00:03 | |
see no. We expect it to be mainly in
the hills above 100m, and once again | 1:00:03 | 1:00:09 | |
the risk of ice and we could see
frost. As well as that, the chance | 1:00:09 | 1:00:13 | |
of seeing patchy mist and fog
forming. A cold night in prospect, | 1:00:13 | 1:00:19 | |
these are the temperatures you can
expect in towns and cities. In rural | 1:00:19 | 1:00:24 | |
areas it will be lower than this.
Tomorrow our weather front continues | 1:00:24 | 1:00:29 | |
drifting northwards, mostly at low
levels we are looking at rain. On | 1:00:29 | 1:00:33 | |
higher ground it is more likely to
be snow and as we move further south | 1:00:33 | 1:00:37 | |
quite a lot of cloud and a grey day
tomorrow with showers across | 1:00:37 | 1:00:42 | |
Northern Ireland and the south-west
of England and the Channel Islands. | 1:00:42 | 1:00:46 | |
Still only three degrees in Aberdeen
and balmy 12 degrees in London. As | 1:00:46 | 1:00:52 | |
we head into Wednesday, low pressure
still in charge of our weather, | 1:00:52 | 1:00:55 | |
centred in the North Sea, and we can
see everything topping across it | 1:00:55 | 1:01:00 | |
which means in north-west Scotland
we will see wintriness in the | 1:01:00 | 1:01:05 | |
forecast and wintry showers too
across Northern Ireland, and showers | 1:01:05 | 1:01:07 | |
in the self heavy with hail. | 1:01:07 | 1:01:11 | |
Hello it's Monday, it's 10 o'clock,
I'm Victoria Derbyshire. | 1:01:14 | 1:01:17 | |
Our lead story today -
The Shape of Water, about a woman | 1:01:17 | 1:01:20 | |
who falls in love with a sea
creature, takes the top | 1:01:20 | 1:01:22 | |
honours at the Oscars. | 1:01:22 | 1:01:23 | |
Gary Oldman picks up best actor
for his portrayal of | 1:01:23 | 1:01:26 | |
Winston Churchill in Darkest Hour. | 1:01:26 | 1:01:27 | |
To my mother, thank
you for your love and support. | 1:01:27 | 1:01:31 | |
Put the kettle on. | 1:01:31 | 1:01:34 | |
I'm bringing Oscar home. | 1:01:34 | 1:01:39 | |
Also on the programme -
it's one of the defining issues | 1:01:39 | 1:01:41 | |
facing society right now. | 1:01:41 | 1:01:44 | |
Should trans-women be allowed
into spaces traditionally | 1:01:44 | 1:01:46 | |
seen as women only? | 1:01:46 | 1:01:49 | |
I remember when I was transitioning,
in an attempt to lose some weight | 1:01:49 | 1:01:54 | |
and get into shape, I joined a gym.
I know I felt just as vulnerable in | 1:01:54 | 1:02:02 | |
a female changing room, so far as
feeling the scrutiny of other | 1:02:02 | 1:02:07 | |
women's eyes. | 1:02:07 | 1:02:13 | |
And Rebecca Root,
the author of our report, | 1:02:13 | 1:02:15 | |
will be with us shortly,
along with a transgender campaigner | 1:02:15 | 1:02:17 | |
and two feminists who don't believe
trans women should be allowed | 1:02:17 | 1:02:20 | |
into women's only spaces. | 1:02:20 | 1:02:23 | |
And in around half an hour's time
Theresa May will set out plans | 1:02:23 | 1:02:26 | |
to increase the pressure
on developers in England to build | 1:02:26 | 1:02:29 | |
more homes to tackle
the housing shortage. | 1:02:29 | 1:02:31 | |
We';ll bring it to you live. | 1:02:31 | 1:02:33 | |
Here's Ben Brown with the latest
news. | 1:02:40 | 1:02:44 | |
Gary Oldman was the big British
success at the 2018 Oscars | 1:02:44 | 1:02:46 | |
collecting the Best Actor Award
for his transformation | 1:02:46 | 1:02:49 | |
into Winston Churchill
for Darkest Hour. | 1:02:49 | 1:02:51 | |
The other big winner on the night
was Frances McDormand, | 1:02:51 | 1:02:54 | |
who picked up the best actress award
and paid tribute to | 1:02:54 | 1:02:57 | |
the other female nominees. | 1:02:57 | 1:03:00 | |
If I may be so honoured to have
all the female nominees in every | 1:03:00 | 1:03:04 | |
category stand with me
inside this room tonight. | 1:03:04 | 1:03:06 | |
The actors - Meryl, if you do it,
everyone else will, come on. | 1:03:06 | 1:03:11 | |
OK, look around, everybody. | 1:03:11 | 1:03:13 | |
Look around, ladies and gentlemen,
because we all have stories to tell | 1:03:13 | 1:03:16 | |
and projects we need financed. | 1:03:16 | 1:03:23 | |
The cyclist Sir Bradley Wiggins
and Team Sky have been accused | 1:03:23 | 1:03:26 | |
of "crossing an ethical line"
in their use of medication, | 1:03:26 | 1:03:28 | |
in a report by MPs. | 1:03:28 | 1:03:30 | |
The report by the Digital, Culture,
Media and Sport committee says | 1:03:30 | 1:03:33 | |
the prescriptions were used
to enhance performance rather | 1:03:33 | 1:03:35 | |
than just for medical need. | 1:03:35 | 1:03:37 | |
Bradley Wiggins and Team Sky have
strongly refuted the claims. | 1:03:37 | 1:03:41 | |
And our sports correspondent
will have more on this in a moment. | 1:03:41 | 1:03:47 | |
Ian Lucas, one of the MPs on the
committee behind the report has | 1:03:48 | 1:03:51 | |
given his reaction to this
programme. I have to say, a lot of | 1:03:51 | 1:03:56 | |
this could all have been cleared up
if Team Sky had acted professionally | 1:03:56 | 1:04:01 | |
in presenting medical evidence and
retaining medical evidence, which | 1:04:01 | 1:04:05 | |
they ought to have had and which
they have never supplied. So all of | 1:04:05 | 1:04:10 | |
these issues were in the control of
Team Sky. But despite repeated | 1:04:10 | 1:04:15 | |
opportunities, they have never
presented that evidence and the | 1:04:15 | 1:04:19 | |
clout that exists over the sport
rests squarely with Team Sky and | 1:04:19 | 1:04:24 | |
also British cycling. -- and the
cloud that exists. | 1:04:24 | 1:04:28 | |
Thousands of people
in Wales and London | 1:04:28 | 1:04:29 | |
and the south east have been | 1:04:29 | 1:04:31 | |
without water or told
to limit their use, | 1:04:31 | 1:04:33 | |
because of burst pipes. | 1:04:33 | 1:04:34 | |
It follows a rapid thaw
after several days of | 1:04:34 | 1:04:36 | |
sub-zero temperatures. | 1:04:36 | 1:04:37 | |
It's led to the closure of a number
of schools in Kent, while in London, | 1:04:37 | 1:04:41 | |
emergency bottled water
is being distributed. | 1:04:41 | 1:04:48 | |
A military helicopter will deliver
emergency supplies this morning to | 1:04:48 | 1:04:51 | |
villages in Cumbria that have been
cut off for five days because of | 1:04:51 | 1:04:54 | |
heavy snow. Severe weather wreaking
havoc across the county and some | 1:04:54 | 1:04:59 | |
areas will remain isolated for
another 48 hours because it is | 1:04:59 | 1:05:02 | |
taking so long to clear the roads. A
Chinook helicopter will drop food, | 1:05:02 | 1:05:09 | |
Cole and logs for heating, and
electrical heaters. | 1:05:09 | 1:05:11 | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC
News - more at 10.30. | 1:05:11 | 1:05:15 | |
We will talk more about the rights
of trans-women in a moment. Jane | 1:05:15 | 1:05:20 | |
sent an e-mail, it's clear to me the
trans-women on the show are not real | 1:05:20 | 1:05:25 | |
women, they fight other women
instead of complaining to men, which | 1:05:25 | 1:05:28 | |
are the root of the problem. That's
why the patriarch it doesn't go | 1:05:28 | 1:05:31 | |
away, women are fighting each other.
This tweet, trans activists are | 1:05:31 | 1:05:36 | |
quick to judge people about the lack
of understanding and caring towards | 1:05:36 | 1:05:41 | |
trans people, while simultaneously
dismissing out of hand the thoughts | 1:05:41 | 1:05:43 | |
of those who have concerns about
shared spaces. Kate on Twitter says, | 1:05:43 | 1:05:48 | |
trans-women are women and that
should be the end of it. Survivor or | 1:05:48 | 1:05:52 | |
not, no one should be exempt from
the blatant trans-phobia of | 1:05:52 | 1:05:58 | |
insisting otherwise. Rebecca says
she supports the trans community in | 1:05:58 | 1:06:02 | |
their fight for equal rights. But I
oppose trans forming an identity by | 1:06:02 | 1:06:07 | |
hijacking and opposing women's
rights. Stop fighting those born | 1:06:07 | 1:06:12 | |
women with the trans-phobic label.
Slow down, perverse and take pride | 1:06:12 | 1:06:16 | |
in forming your own identity. | 1:06:16 | 1:06:20 | |
Do get in touch with us | 1:06:20 | 1:06:22 | |
throughout the morning -
use the hashtag Victoria live | 1:06:22 | 1:06:24 | |
and If you text, you will be charged
at the standard network rate. | 1:06:24 | 1:06:27 | |
We can go to the sport now. Starting
with the Department for Culture, | 1:06:27 | 1:06:32 | |
Media and Sport select committee
report that says Team Sky and | 1:06:32 | 1:06:36 | |
Bradley Wiggins used potential
performance enhancing drugs. They | 1:06:36 | 1:06:46 | |
claim drugs were used beyond the
requirement for therapeutic use | 1:06:46 | 1:06:49 | |
exemption. Boast Bradley Wiggins and
Team Sky refute all the allegations. | 1:06:49 | 1:06:54 | |
The BBC athletics commentator and
former Olympic champion Steve Cram | 1:06:54 | 1:06:59 | |
gave his response to the report. --
both Bradley Wiggins... We have to | 1:06:59 | 1:07:04 | |
protect athletes at the highest
level but we have to be careful not | 1:07:04 | 1:07:07 | |
to step over the line in terms of
misusing TUEs. I welcome any | 1:07:07 | 1:07:12 | |
scenario where we get the guidelines
right on that. I don't think anybody | 1:07:12 | 1:07:16 | |
has done anything that break the
rules around doping, I'm pretty sure | 1:07:16 | 1:07:20 | |
about that. Some of the headlines
coming out are probably not | 1:07:20 | 1:07:24 | |
accurate. I think shining a
spotlight on it is important to make | 1:07:24 | 1:07:27 | |
sure we don't make any mistakes
going forward. Also in that report, | 1:07:27 | 1:07:32 | |
Lord Coe, president of the IAAF, is
accused of giving misleading | 1:07:32 | 1:07:36 | |
evidence to the committee regarding
his knowledge of corruption in | 1:07:36 | 1:07:42 | |
Russian athletics. Extensive
coverage of this story on the BBC | 1:07:42 | 1:07:45 | |
sport website. A very good article
by sports editor Dan Roan. We will | 1:07:45 | 1:07:50 | |
be across further reaction to that
as the day progresses. In | 1:07:50 | 1:07:54 | |
football... Manchester city manager
Pep Guardiola has until six o'clock | 1:07:54 | 1:07:58 | |
this evening to respond to an FA
charge of displaying a political | 1:07:58 | 1:08:03 | |
symbol for wearing his Catalan
independence yellow ribbon. The FA | 1:08:03 | 1:08:07 | |
Chief Executive Martin Glenn says
English football's governing body do | 1:08:07 | 1:08:10 | |
not want political symbols in
football. Guardiola's side are 18 | 1:08:10 | 1:08:16 | |
points clear at the top of the
Premier League after a 1-0 win over | 1:08:16 | 1:08:20 | |
reigning champions Chelsea. They
have already won the League Cup and | 1:08:20 | 1:08:23 | |
their next piece of silverware is on
the horizon, just four wins away | 1:08:23 | 1:08:27 | |
from winning the title, and it would
be the earliest time it has ever | 1:08:27 | 1:08:33 | |
been won. Bernardo Silva's strike
was enough to another points at the | 1:08:33 | 1:08:38 | |
Etihad. After back-to-back defeats
to City in a League Cup final and | 1:08:38 | 1:08:42 | |
the league over the past week,
Arsenal have lost again, this time | 1:08:42 | 1:08:47 | |
to Brighton, 2-1. Lewis Dunk and
Glenn Murray with the goals for | 1:08:47 | 1:08:50 | |
Brighton. Its arsenal's fourth
defeat in a row. Because increasing | 1:08:50 | 1:08:55 | |
for manager Arsene to go. Rangers
and Celtic will face each other in | 1:08:55 | 1:09:01 | |
the Scottish cup semifinals after
Rangers beat Falkirk 4-1 at Ibrox. | 1:09:01 | 1:09:05 | |
Jason Cummings scored a hat-trick.
Motherwell beat Hearts and they will | 1:09:05 | 1:09:09 | |
face Aberdeen or Kilmarnock.
England's women are still unbeaten | 1:09:09 | 1:09:15 | |
in the SheBelieves Cup in the
friendly tournament in the USA. They | 1:09:15 | 1:09:23 | |
had friendly pep talk from David
Beckham and the lionesses came from | 1:09:23 | 1:09:27 | |
behind twice. Agony for Millie
Bright when her own goal gave | 1:09:27 | 1:09:30 | |
Germany a 2-1 lead. Ellen White
scored England's first and then | 1:09:30 | 1:09:35 | |
rescued them a second time as it
finished 2-2. It shows how much we | 1:09:35 | 1:09:41 | |
have grown, the desire, and working
hard to compete against the best | 1:09:41 | 1:09:44 | |
teams in the world and also beat
them. We are disappointed to have | 1:09:44 | 1:09:47 | |
drawn. We have come a long way.
That's all the sport for now, we | 1:09:47 | 1:09:51 | |
will be back with the headlines
later. | 1:09:51 | 1:09:56 | |
In most of our lifetimes we've seen
public attitudes shift on racism, | 1:09:56 | 1:09:59 | |
homophobia and most recently
on sexual harassment. | 1:09:59 | 1:10:02 | |
Another defining issue of our time
is what rights should be afforded | 1:10:02 | 1:10:07 | |
to transgender people
and in particular trans-women. | 1:10:07 | 1:10:09 | |
The Equality Act 2010 means
transgender people can't be | 1:10:09 | 1:10:12 | |
discriminated against -
but public policy hasn't really yet | 1:10:12 | 1:10:17 | |
caught up with how to ensure that
happens when it comes to things | 1:10:17 | 1:10:20 | |
like which toilet or changing rooms
trans-women should use, | 1:10:20 | 1:10:23 | |
which prison they should be sent
to if they commit an offence, | 1:10:23 | 1:10:28 | |
whether they should be allowed
in a woman's only refuges. | 1:10:28 | 1:10:36 | |
The debate can be
heated and polarised. | 1:10:37 | 1:10:38 | |
We've tried to take some
of the heat out of the issue | 1:10:38 | 1:10:41 | |
and have asked Rebecca Root,
a trans actor, to report for us. | 1:10:41 | 1:10:44 | |
We brought you her full film earlier
- here's a short extract before | 1:10:44 | 1:10:47 | |
we have a conversation about this: | 1:10:47 | 1:10:49 | |
I'm Rebecca Root. | 1:10:49 | 1:10:50 | |
I'm an actor and a voice teacher
and I'm also transgender. | 1:10:50 | 1:10:54 | |
Since I transitioned in 2003,
I've seen a big change in the way | 1:10:54 | 1:10:57 | |
that British society now views
and accepts the trans community, | 1:10:57 | 1:11:00 | |
mostly for the better. | 1:11:00 | 1:11:05 | |
But there's an increasing number
of complex issues that | 1:11:05 | 1:11:07 | |
are still needing to find answers. | 1:11:07 | 1:11:09 | |
So how does society
and politicians catch up? | 1:11:09 | 1:11:13 | |
How do they find the solutions
so that everybody's happy? | 1:11:13 | 1:11:20 | |
If you look at the way that
institutions are built in countries, | 1:11:21 | 1:11:28 | |
they're built around that dichotomy,
the binary between men and women. | 1:11:28 | 1:11:32 | |
This is how we've been able
to develop women's health care, | 1:11:32 | 1:11:35 | |
right, or how, when we think
about prisons, we've created women's | 1:11:35 | 1:11:40 | |
prisons and men's prisons
because of an assumption | 1:11:40 | 1:11:43 | |
about the different
needs and challenges | 1:11:43 | 1:11:46 | |
that these two genders face. | 1:11:46 | 1:11:49 | |
Some of the women raising concerns
about these issues say that | 1:11:49 | 1:11:53 | |
although they just want an open
discussion about them, | 1:11:53 | 1:11:55 | |
they are being silenced. | 1:11:55 | 1:11:56 | |
Pilgrim Tucker is one of them. | 1:11:56 | 1:12:01 | |
You say you want a debate,
and there's no possible debate to be | 1:12:01 | 1:12:06 | |
had but you are called trans-phobic
for wanting that debate. | 1:12:06 | 1:12:12 | |
A lot of people are saying
there are very significant | 1:12:12 | 1:12:17 | |
differences between trans-women
and people who are born women. | 1:12:17 | 1:12:23 | |
Both biological and on the basis
of that biology, on the basis | 1:12:23 | 1:12:26 | |
of their different anatomy,
how they're treated in society | 1:12:26 | 1:12:30 | |
and their experience of the world,
that needs a lot of careful thought. | 1:12:30 | 1:12:37 | |
So let's slow down and really talk
about why women might feel cautious | 1:12:37 | 1:12:44 | |
about having trans-women
in their spaces. | 1:12:44 | 1:12:47 | |
Places where they will
feel vulnerable. | 1:12:47 | 1:12:52 | |
I remember when I was transitioning,
in an attempt to lose some weight | 1:12:52 | 1:12:55 | |
and get myself into shape,
I joined a gym. | 1:12:55 | 1:12:59 | |
I know that I felt just
as vulnerable in a female changing | 1:12:59 | 1:13:07 | |
room so far as feeling the scrutiny
of other women's eyes as I sort | 1:13:10 | 1:13:13 | |
of walked in in my swimming costume. | 1:13:13 | 1:13:15 | |
I always used the cubicles. | 1:13:15 | 1:13:18 | |
I can see how passionate you are,
and it seems that you're afraid, | 1:13:18 | 1:13:23 | |
almost, of trans people
or trans-women in... | 1:13:23 | 1:13:25 | |
No, I'm not. | 1:13:25 | 1:13:26 | |
I don't think there's anything I've
said to make you believe | 1:13:26 | 1:13:29 | |
that I'm afraid of trans
people, at all. | 1:13:29 | 1:13:34 | |
What we spoke about, was we spoke
about the prevalence of male | 1:13:34 | 1:13:36 | |
crimes towards women. | 1:13:36 | 1:13:38 | |
Those that campaign
for the transgender community, | 1:13:38 | 1:13:41 | |
such as Paris Lees, argue that self
ID-ing is the next | 1:13:41 | 1:13:44 | |
step in acceptance. | 1:13:44 | 1:13:45 | |
It's not a debate, and I find it
really offensive that | 1:13:45 | 1:13:48 | |
it's framed as a debate. | 1:13:48 | 1:13:50 | |
Hatred and prejudice against trans
people is not up for debate. | 1:13:50 | 1:13:54 | |
There's going to be no such thing
as a woman and anyone will be able | 1:13:54 | 1:13:58 | |
to walk into a toilet and it's
going to be the end of the world, | 1:13:58 | 1:14:01 | |
and it's nonsense. | 1:14:01 | 1:14:03 | |
All we're hearing about is all
of people's imagined fears about how | 1:14:03 | 1:14:05 | |
it's going to be the absolute end
of the world if we make it easier | 1:14:05 | 1:14:09 | |
for you and I to change
our birth certificates. | 1:14:09 | 1:14:11 | |
I think it's clear not only
from the conversations I've had | 1:14:11 | 1:14:14 | |
but also from my own experience
that, although the trans community | 1:14:14 | 1:14:16 | |
has come a long way in its fight
for equality and recognition, | 1:14:16 | 1:14:19 | |
there's still a distance to go. | 1:14:19 | 1:14:22 | |
Rebecca Root is here along
with Dr Clara Barker, | 1:14:22 | 1:14:25 | |
a scientist at Oxford University
and transgender campaigner, | 1:14:25 | 1:14:28 | |
whose work has been
praised by Theresa May. | 1:14:28 | 1:14:31 | |
Also with us, two
feminists who don't believe trans | 1:14:31 | 1:14:33 | |
women should be allowed
into women's-only spaces. | 1:14:33 | 1:14:34 | |
Sarah Ditum is a journalist
who writes for the New Statesman | 1:14:34 | 1:14:38 | |
and the Guardian and has written
about transgender issues. | 1:14:38 | 1:14:42 | |
Dr Nicola Williams, spokesperson
for Fair Play for Women, | 1:14:42 | 1:14:45 | |
a women's rights organization. | 1:14:45 | 1:14:46 | |
Let's cut to the chase - | 1:14:46 | 1:14:49 | |
What is the worry about trans women
coming into women's spaces like | 1:14:53 | 1:15:00 | |
female changing rooms, ladies
toilets and hospital wards? Just to | 1:15:00 | 1:15:04 | |
clarify, what you said... We are not
against trans-women coming into | 1:15:04 | 1:15:09 | |
these spaces in all cases. It's just
about in some instances, because | 1:15:09 | 1:15:13 | |
there are differences between
biological women... I have to pose | 1:15:13 | 1:15:19 | |
you because I think your microphone
might not be working. | 1:15:19 | 1:15:27 | |
Biological women, there are
differences between | 1:15:29 | 1:15:32 | |
Biological women, there are
differences between biological women | 1:15:32 | 1:15:33 | |
and trans women so in instances
where biological sex matters, for | 1:15:33 | 1:15:38 | |
example in a women's refuge, that
would be a case where the equality | 1:15:38 | 1:15:43 | |
act, single sex exemption should be
allowed to go forward and that | 1:15:43 | 1:15:47 | |
should be biological women only.
Issues like toilets are less | 1:15:47 | 1:15:54 | |
important.
And what is the worry, what is the | 1:15:54 | 1:15:56 | |
concern? The concern is biological
women are different to trans women | 1:15:56 | 1:16:03 | |
and trans women have been born male
and so women need to be reassured | 1:16:03 | 1:16:10 | |
about that. Although we all think
about transsexual people in | 1:16:10 | 1:16:20 | |
operations but actually the majority
of transgender people nowadays still | 1:16:20 | 1:16:27 | |
retain the penis so these people are
biologically still male. I'm going | 1:16:27 | 1:16:33 | |
to ask Sarah because I still don't
know what the worry is. The | 1:16:33 | 1:16:39 | |
potential for exploitation. The idea
within self-identity is you are man | 1:16:39 | 1:16:43 | |
or woman because you say so and
nobody has the right to question it. | 1:16:43 | 1:16:48 | |
That is a real problem because it
means there will be men who will | 1:16:48 | 1:16:52 | |
exploit that, there will be men who
are predatory, who will exploit that | 1:16:52 | 1:16:57 | |
to gain access to spaces. We have
already seen that in prisons. There | 1:16:57 | 1:17:03 | |
are men who have moved into the
female estate, and Paris Green is | 1:17:03 | 1:17:07 | |
the name of one example, have to be
moved out because of sexual | 1:17:07 | 1:17:13 | |
predatory behaviour towards women
and that is really troubling and we | 1:17:13 | 1:17:15 | |
need to have a system that is
stronger than self identification to | 1:17:15 | 1:17:20 | |
protect women and trans women.
Rebecca, do you understand that | 1:17:20 | 1:17:27 | |
concern? Yes, but it's like you are
tarring the whole community of trans | 1:17:27 | 1:17:32 | |
women with the brush of one or two
people who are bad people and in | 1:17:32 | 1:17:37 | |
prison because they have committed
crimes. It's like saying every | 1:17:37 | 1:17:43 | |
priest is a bad person because one
or two, maybe more, committed | 1:17:43 | 1:17:48 | |
offences against young people for
example. So you cannot paint | 1:17:48 | 1:17:55 | |
everybody with the same brush. This
is a risk to women and trans women. | 1:17:55 | 1:18:01 | |
Male violence is the problem we are
all facing. Violent men is an issue | 1:18:01 | 1:18:07 | |
for all of us and we need a system
that protects everyone of us around | 1:18:07 | 1:18:12 | |
the table from that. We need to
remember 90% at least of sexual | 1:18:12 | 1:18:16 | |
assault are carried out by people
that already know the survivor so | 1:18:16 | 1:18:20 | |
I'm not sure how self identification
will change that. Self | 1:18:20 | 1:18:26 | |
identification means anyone can self
identify as transgender so that is | 1:18:26 | 1:18:30 | |
the issue. We are not scared of
transgender people, we are being | 1:18:30 | 1:18:35 | |
cautious of the fact that anyone,
any man can self identify as a | 1:18:35 | 1:18:42 | |
woman. If you are caught doing that,
there is a criminal penalty, up to | 1:18:42 | 1:18:48 | |
two years in prison. How do you
prove someone is lying about their | 1:18:48 | 1:18:53 | |
identity? If we move to a situation
where self-identity is the rule, it | 1:18:53 | 1:18:57 | |
is impossible to say is that someone
you don't sincerely identify as bad. | 1:18:57 | 1:19:04 | |
Is the proposal not that there will
still be checks and balances so | 1:19:04 | 1:19:08 | |
people who are self identifying
still have to demonstrate a | 1:19:08 | 1:19:13 | |
commitment? You are not going to say
the lads that put a ballet tutu on | 1:19:13 | 1:19:19 | |
and hop on a flight to Amsterdam for
a stag weekend are then going to say | 1:19:19 | 1:19:25 | |
I'm female, are they? They could
say, they could. Can women actually | 1:19:25 | 1:19:33 | |
say... Say a man walks into the
toilets, in this environment now, | 1:19:33 | 1:19:38 | |
our women feeling confident enough
to say, excuse me, you are man, can | 1:19:38 | 1:19:43 | |
you leave? Because if that man says
he identifies as a woman, there is | 1:19:43 | 1:19:48 | |
no other proof required. Answer that
point. That very specific examples. | 1:19:48 | 1:19:55 | |
This isn't a case of trans women and
men walking into the bathroom, it is | 1:19:55 | 1:20:01 | |
whether you look like a woman or a
man, that is what you are policing. | 1:20:01 | 1:20:06 | |
Some women walk into bathrooms who
look and appear woman about and they | 1:20:06 | 1:20:10 | |
are kicked out of those bathrooms.
If we are going on biological sex, | 1:20:10 | 1:20:16 | |
what about trans men going into
female bathrooms, what then? We have | 1:20:16 | 1:20:23 | |
every reason to be anxious about
male violence. I'm saying trans men | 1:20:23 | 1:20:27 | |
have every reason to be anxious
about male violence because they may | 1:20:27 | 1:20:34 | |
be assaulted. That happens because
the major source of violence in our | 1:20:34 | 1:20:39 | |
society is men. Has that happened?
I'm 100% sure I could dig one out. | 1:20:39 | 1:20:46 | |
Paris says in the film there is a
link between this and conversations | 1:20:46 | 1:20:56 | |
that used to go on around gay men
using male changing rooms or gay | 1:20:56 | 1:21:02 | |
people adopting or gay teachers and
the suggestion there would be a | 1:21:02 | 1:21:06 | |
danger to children. Why do you say
this is different? Firstly because | 1:21:06 | 1:21:11 | |
me and Nicola were anti-section 28,
pro-equal marriage... It is about | 1:21:11 | 1:21:22 | |
what Paris has called imagined
fears. They are not imagining Paris | 1:21:22 | 1:21:27 | |
Green in the prison, we are not
imagining cases where men have | 1:21:27 | 1:21:32 | |
maliciously gained access to female
spaces. A really good real-life | 1:21:32 | 1:21:38 | |
example, girl guides now allow boys
who identify as girls to join the | 1:21:38 | 1:21:43 | |
girl guides so that means that a
child born male, clearly with a | 1:21:43 | 1:21:49 | |
penis, would be allowed to sleep
overnight with girls. And there is a | 1:21:49 | 1:21:58 | |
safeguarding issue there. OK, that
is not an imagined fear. You are | 1:21:58 | 1:22:03 | |
doing the girl guides is service by
assuming they won't be doing risk | 1:22:03 | 1:22:09 | |
assessments. We risk assess
everything. My question is, is that | 1:22:09 | 1:22:16 | |
an imagined fear or a real fear that
you understand? Erm... You're | 1:22:16 | 1:22:28 | |
assuming the 11-year-old trans girl
is a sexual predator. No, we are | 1:22:28 | 1:22:33 | |
assuming there may be natal males, I
don't know, I cannot adjudicate on | 1:22:33 | 1:22:39 | |
someone's mental state but when I
was a teenager natal males in my | 1:22:39 | 1:22:44 | |
class exhibited disturbing
behaviour. The issue is parents are | 1:22:44 | 1:22:52 | |
not even allowed to be informed by
the girl guides that this might | 1:22:52 | 1:22:55 | |
happen so if a parent sends their
daughter off camping, they wouldn't | 1:22:55 | 1:23:01 | |
be informed there could be a natal
mail boy, there could be a | 1:23:01 | 1:23:06 | |
14-year-old boy in with their
ten-year-old daughter in a tent and | 1:23:06 | 1:23:11 | |
no one is allowed to know. How can
there be informed consent there? All | 1:23:11 | 1:23:20 | |
we are asking for is to think of all
of the people involved because there | 1:23:20 | 1:23:23 | |
is the trans child to be thought of
but also the girls. Most of the | 1:23:23 | 1:23:27 | |
messages we have had from our
audience are to do with domestic | 1:23:27 | 1:23:31 | |
refuges. Miranda says I feel
strongly... Sorry, this is about a | 1:23:31 | 1:23:36 | |
woman's short list having said that.
On all women short list I feel | 1:23:36 | 1:23:40 | |
strongly trans women should not be
on short lists, I am not | 1:23:40 | 1:23:44 | |
transphobic. I totally accept them
in society but they are not women | 1:23:44 | 1:23:48 | |
and never will be. A woman is a
person who has a womb. Trans women | 1:23:48 | 1:23:54 | |
would not be eligible to run as
female candidates. I would have no | 1:23:54 | 1:23:58 | |
problem with them running as trans
candidates. What would you say to | 1:23:58 | 1:24:03 | |
that, Rebecca? Does that mean | 1:24:03 | 1:24:10 | |
that, Rebecca? Does that mean people
who have had hysterectomies cannot | 1:24:13 | 1:24:14 | |
stand on all women short lists? No,
that is very different. Natal sex | 1:24:14 | 1:24:17 | |
matters, being female matters. The
reason we have women only short | 1:24:17 | 1:24:21 | |
lists is because there are things
that happen to women that make it | 1:24:21 | 1:24:25 | |
harder to have careers in politics,
there is sex discrimination. This is | 1:24:25 | 1:24:30 | |
about refuges, if a trans woman
needs a woman's refuge it is because | 1:24:30 | 1:24:35 | |
she's a woman, not someone
pretending to be. "I Have no problem | 1:24:35 | 1:24:44 | |
with trans women, I can however
understand some people might feel | 1:24:44 | 1:24:49 | |
uncomfortable in changing rooms,
particularly if the person has not | 1:24:49 | 1:24:52 | |
yet undergone full reassignment
surgery". | 1:24:52 | 1:24:57 | |
Emma Kania is in Blackpool. | 1:24:57 | 1:24:58 | |
She was in a domestic violence
refuge last year for seven months. | 1:24:58 | 1:25:02 | |
What is your own view? The refuge
should be a safe space forward mean | 1:25:02 | 1:25:11 | |
only. I wouldn't have felt safe
there if there had been either self | 1:25:11 | 1:25:18 | |
identifying women or transgender
women there. Neither would have the | 1:25:18 | 1:25:25 | |
people living with me. Can you give
some insight about why you don't | 1:25:25 | 1:25:30 | |
think you would have felt safe? I
needed that women only space. They | 1:25:30 | 1:25:37 | |
understood what I had been through.
I needed to feel safe and I wouldn't | 1:25:37 | 1:25:42 | |
have felt safe if there had been
someone there with a penis. Clara, | 1:25:42 | 1:25:49 | |
how do you react to that? It is a
valid concern but this is all about | 1:25:49 | 1:25:55 | |
whether you look male or female. The
chances are trans women are not | 1:25:55 | 1:25:59 | |
going to be flaunting their anatomy
in front of you in a refuge or | 1:25:59 | 1:26:03 | |
other. People can be perceived as
male. People are very good at doing | 1:26:03 | 1:26:11 | |
that, being able to spot... | 1:26:11 | 1:26:18 | |
that, being able to spot... It does
matter, do you look male or female | 1:26:18 | 1:26:25 | |
because how people are treated
depends so much on that. Let's say a | 1:26:25 | 1:26:30 | |
trans woman was in the refuge that
you were in and they looked like | 1:26:30 | 1:26:37 | |
you, but they had a penis, you knew
that, would you have felt unsafe? | 1:26:37 | 1:26:42 | |
Yes, just because I don't trust any
men at the moment so it would have | 1:26:42 | 1:26:47 | |
made me feel on safe. To me, a true
woman has menstrual cycles, you | 1:26:47 | 1:26:56 | |
know, it's different. They are not
male, they are not female, they are | 1:26:56 | 1:27:01 | |
transgender. Why don't you talk to
Emma and tell her why that's | 1:27:01 | 1:27:05 | |
offensive for you to hear that? My
mother doesn't have a menstrual | 1:27:05 | 1:27:12 | |
cycle but she is a natal female. She
did do in the past. But you are | 1:27:12 | 1:27:19 | |
talking about the current time. Do
you know what hormone therapy dust | 1:27:19 | 1:27:24 | |
of the libido of a natal male? We
don't know they are on oestrogen | 1:27:24 | 1:27:30 | |
therapy because it is self-identity.
No medical treatment is necessary, | 1:27:30 | 1:27:35 | |
simply identifying yourself as
female is all that would be required | 1:27:35 | 1:27:39 | |
to come into the women's refuge. I
want to ask Clara and Rebecca, | 1:27:39 | 1:27:45 | |
legitimate questions raised by Emma
would you say for example, and often | 1:27:45 | 1:27:49 | |
the worry is that if a person raises
what might be considered to be a | 1:27:49 | 1:27:55 | |
reasonable or legitimate concern,
they are immediately described as | 1:27:55 | 1:28:00 | |
transphobic. Do you agree that
happens, and what can we do about | 1:28:00 | 1:28:04 | |
it? It can happen but it is a two
way street. Any arguments made by | 1:28:04 | 1:28:11 | |
trans people are shut down and if
there was an equivalent word it | 1:28:11 | 1:28:15 | |
would be used towards trans women.
It is so important we have | 1:28:15 | 1:28:19 | |
conversations like this and it can
be an enormously febrile discussion | 1:28:19 | 1:28:23 | |
and that is of no benefit to any of
us because the constant theme we | 1:28:23 | 1:28:27 | |
have been coming back to is the
issue we are contending with is male | 1:28:27 | 1:28:32 | |
violence. In terms of women's
refuges, women's movements did | 1:28:32 | 1:28:38 | |
extraordinary work in the 1980s
establishing them. It is all there | 1:28:38 | 1:28:43 | |
for trans women to learn from in
terms of establishing your own | 1:28:43 | 1:28:47 | |
specialist services. There are
things trans women experience that I | 1:28:47 | 1:28:51 | |
will never experience. I don't think
anybody in the trans community is | 1:28:51 | 1:28:57 | |
saying there shouldn't be spaces
that protect vulnerable people of | 1:28:57 | 1:29:00 | |
whatever gender they are. I think if
the situation were to arise where | 1:29:00 | 1:29:07 | |
somebody felt threatened, I'm sure
the people who operated that place | 1:29:07 | 1:29:11 | |
would investigate and say this
person has, until yesterday, been | 1:29:11 | 1:29:16 | |
sporting a big bushy beard and
rocking up as Jack. I will also say | 1:29:16 | 1:29:22 | |
that I have talked to a few people
that run rape crisis centres and | 1:29:22 | 1:29:27 | |
they do, they want to help everyone.
You are saying we should have trans | 1:29:27 | 1:29:32 | |
specific services but they are also
under capacity for the services they | 1:29:32 | 1:29:37 | |
provide to a single gender. It is an
under resourced sector so the | 1:29:37 | 1:29:41 | |
pressure to provide gender neutral
services is even worse. Sorry to | 1:29:41 | 1:29:46 | |
interrupt, a final question - do you
think there are people who are | 1:29:46 | 1:29:55 | |
transphobic who are exploiting
ignorance in order to whip up fears? | 1:29:55 | 1:30:00 | |
I think there are definitely people
who are transphobic and who wouldn't | 1:30:00 | 1:30:04 | |
want to have the kind of
conversation we've had here, who | 1:30:04 | 1:30:07 | |
wouldn't want to acknowledge the
risk and danger you face as trans | 1:30:07 | 1:30:12 | |
women and I want no part of them. I
don't think that hatred has any | 1:30:12 | 1:30:17 | |
place, I really think we should be
working together to address how do | 1:30:17 | 1:30:21 | |
we all address male violence in a
way that approaches a specific | 1:30:21 | 1:30:26 | |
situations? It's about balancing
rights. Transgender people need to | 1:30:26 | 1:30:32 | |
be free of discrimination, women,
females do, all of the different | 1:30:32 | 1:30:35 | |
categories need to be balanced and
it needs to be fair so we are just | 1:30:35 | 1:30:40 | |
asking because I think women's
voices have been silenced really up | 1:30:40 | 1:30:44 | |
until now so we are just asking to
be able to be heard. Not to be told | 1:30:44 | 1:30:50 | |
that we are transphobic because this
is a great environment today. This | 1:30:50 | 1:30:54 | |
is unusual to have two women and two
trans women here so this is a great | 1:30:54 | 1:31:02 | |
start. We can start talking because
nobody wants to take rights away | 1:31:02 | 1:31:06 | |
from anybody. | 1:31:06 | 1:31:11 | |
And the Nicola articulated that, she
said women and trans women. Is that | 1:31:11 | 1:31:16 | |
OK? Yes, speaking personally I'm not
going to nit-pick over the labels we | 1:31:16 | 1:31:22 | |
assign people. I am happy to be
called a trans-woman, I am equally | 1:31:22 | 1:31:26 | |
happy to be called a woman. But some
trans women would take great | 1:31:26 | 1:31:31 | |
exception. What I welcome about this
conversation and the opportunity to | 1:31:31 | 1:31:35 | |
make the film is that I had some
very considered conversations with | 1:31:35 | 1:31:40 | |
people from both sides of the fence,
if you like. That's what I welcome | 1:31:40 | 1:31:45 | |
in this forum, this conversation, is
that it was nuanced and considered | 1:31:45 | 1:31:52 | |
and respectful. It's on social media
where people get hot under the | 1:31:52 | 1:31:58 | |
collar, that's when you think, let's
just talk. It's people like us that | 1:31:58 | 1:32:07 | |
who want to be reasonable and share
rights. That's what we're asking | 1:32:07 | 1:32:11 | |
for. Thank you very much for coming
on the programme, we appreciate it. | 1:32:11 | 1:32:22 | |
We have some breaking news, but my
tablet is not working, so I will | 1:32:22 | 1:32:25 | |
tell you that Theresa May is due to
give a speech at any moment now | 1:32:25 | 1:32:28 | |
setting out the government's new
policy on house-building in England | 1:32:28 | 1:32:31 | |
and we will bring that to you live. | 1:32:31 | 1:32:37 | |
But first - people in many parts of
the UK are without water after pipes | 1:32:37 | 1:32:41 | |
burst following last week's freeze. | 1:32:41 | 1:32:42 | |
Millions of people in London
and the south-east have been told | 1:32:42 | 1:32:45 | |
not to use water for anything
that isn't essential. | 1:32:45 | 1:32:47 | |
Let's speak now to
Geoff Marshall who lives | 1:32:47 | 1:32:49 | |
in Streatham in South London and has
had no water since yesterday | 1:32:49 | 1:32:52 | |
and Sara Anderson, the landlady
of the Old Vine Pub in Wadhurst | 1:32:52 | 1:32:54 | |
in Kent where they have had no water
since Saturday morning. | 1:32:54 | 1:33:00 | |
Thank you both very much. How is it
going, the pub landlady. It's very | 1:33:00 | 1:33:06 | |
depressing, still no water. How are
you coping? We are closed today, but | 1:33:06 | 1:33:14 | |
it has been disastrous over the
weekend. Have you had much | 1:33:14 | 1:33:18 | |
communication from your water
company? No, not really. The odd | 1:33:18 | 1:33:23 | |
text. Communication has been very
poor. What about you, | 1:33:23 | 1:33:33 | |
poor. What about you, Geoff. We had
a small amount of water comeback at | 1:33:33 | 1:33:37 | |
about 9am, but it's very low
pressure and it's not enough to | 1:33:37 | 1:33:41 | |
shower, which is why my hair looks
like this! But they don't seem to | 1:33:41 | 1:33:45 | |
communicate what's going on at
Thames Water. It took them until | 1:33:45 | 1:33:49 | |
about midnight last night to
recognise the postcode was affected | 1:33:49 | 1:33:53 | |
and there is very little information
coming from them as to when a fix | 1:33:53 | 1:33:56 | |
might occur. What's been the worst
bit for you? I went out and bought a | 1:33:56 | 1:34:06 | |
lot of bottled water today but I
can't shower. My girlfriend is at | 1:34:06 | 1:34:10 | |
home today and she can't use the
bathroom. You can't wash. We can do | 1:34:10 | 1:34:15 | |
number ones but not a number twos!
We will cause you, because he is | 1:34:15 | 1:34:21 | |
Theresa May and her latest speech on
housing. About my desire to make | 1:34:21 | 1:34:25 | |
this a country that works for
everyone. A country that regardless | 1:34:25 | 1:34:28 | |
of where you live, your race,
religion, what your parents do for a | 1:34:28 | 1:34:33 | |
living, you have a fair chance to
get on and build a life for yourself | 1:34:33 | 1:34:38 | |
and family. It's a philosophy that
shapes everything this government | 1:34:38 | 1:34:42 | |
does. Over the past 18 months we
have done much to help turn vision | 1:34:42 | 1:34:47 | |
into reality. We are reforming
schools, colleges and universities | 1:34:47 | 1:34:51 | |
so that all children and young
people get the education that's | 1:34:51 | 1:34:54 | |
right for them. We are addressing
failures in the justice system, | 1:34:54 | 1:34:59 | |
making it more transparent so that
racial disparities can be at a | 1:34:59 | 1:35:06 | |
divide and ironed out. We are
raising the national living wage, | 1:35:06 | 1:35:08 | |
increasing income tax personal
allowance and capping energy bills | 1:35:08 | 1:35:10 | |
so people are able to keep more of
the money they have worked so hard | 1:35:10 | 1:35:13 | |
to earn. And as I said at Mansion
house on Friday, we are negotiating | 1:35:13 | 1:35:19 | |
a Brexit deal that works for the
whole of the UK so nobody feels they | 1:35:19 | 1:35:23 | |
have been left behind. It's all
about making this country a fairer | 1:35:23 | 1:35:30 | |
place for all. Breathing fresh life
into the British dream that every | 1:35:30 | 1:35:34 | |
generation has a better future than
the last. But we cannot fulfil that | 1:35:34 | 1:35:39 | |
dream, we cannot bring about the
kind of society I want to see, | 1:35:39 | 1:35:43 | |
unless we tackle one of the biggest
barriers to social mobility we face | 1:35:43 | 1:35:47 | |
today, the National housing crisis.
The causes and manifestations vary | 1:35:47 | 1:35:52 | |
from place to place. But the impact
is all too clear. In much of the | 1:35:52 | 1:35:58 | |
country, housing is so unaffordable
that millions of people who would | 1:35:58 | 1:36:01 | |
reasonably expect to buy their own
home, are unable to do so. Others | 1:36:01 | 1:36:06 | |
are struggling even to find
somewhere to rent. The root cause of | 1:36:06 | 1:36:11 | |
this crisis is simple. For decades,
this country has failed to build | 1:36:11 | 1:36:16 | |
enough of the right homes in the
right places. It's a problem that | 1:36:16 | 1:36:21 | |
has played successive governments of
all colours since post-war | 1:36:21 | 1:36:25 | |
house-building peeked under the
first Wilson administration. But it | 1:36:25 | 1:36:30 | |
was from the mid-19 90s that the
failure to match demand with supply. | 1:36:30 | 1:36:39 | |
In 1997, the average home cost 3.5
times the average wage. By 2010, | 1:36:39 | 1:36:44 | |
that ratio had more than doubled.
Higher prices brought with them | 1:36:44 | 1:36:50 | |
higher rents, so prospective
first-time buyers found themselves | 1:36:50 | 1:36:53 | |
able to save less and less, even as
the size of the deposit they needed | 1:36:53 | 1:36:57 | |
grew and grew. The result is a
vicious circle, from which most | 1:36:57 | 1:37:02 | |
people can only escape with help
from the bank of mum and dad. If you | 1:37:02 | 1:37:07 | |
are not lucky enough to have such
support, the door to home ownership | 1:37:07 | 1:37:11 | |
is all too often locked and barred.
Talking to voters during last year's | 1:37:11 | 1:37:16 | |
election campaign, it was clear that
many people, particularly younger | 1:37:16 | 1:37:20 | |
people, are angry about this. Angry
that regardless about how hard they | 1:37:20 | 1:37:25 | |
work, they will not be able to buy a
place of their own. Angry when they | 1:37:25 | 1:37:29 | |
are forced to hand over more of
their wages to landlords to whom | 1:37:29 | 1:37:33 | |
their home is simply a business
asset. Angry that no matter how many | 1:37:33 | 1:37:38 | |
sacrifices they make to save for a
deposit, they will never be able to | 1:37:38 | 1:37:42 | |
compete with someone whose parents
have released equity from their own | 1:37:42 | 1:37:46 | |
home to help their children by. They
are right to be angry. Income | 1:37:46 | 1:37:52 | |
inequality is down since 2010,
thanks in part to increases in the | 1:37:52 | 1:37:57 | |
personal allowance and the national
living wage, but wealth inequality | 1:37:57 | 1:38:01 | |
continues to rise. And as figures
such as Matthew Ron Darby argue, it | 1:38:01 | 1:38:08 | |
is wealth unearned and offering huge
returns that lies at the heart of | 1:38:08 | 1:38:16 | |
the disparity. But the crisis goes
beyond the simple division between | 1:38:16 | 1:38:23 | |
housing haves and have-nots. The
crisis of affordability also creates | 1:38:23 | 1:38:30 | |
crisis of almost little social
mobility. Think of the skilled | 1:38:30 | 1:38:33 | |
experienced worker who is offered a
promotion but cannot afford to take | 1:38:33 | 1:38:36 | |
it up because it would mean moving
to a town or city where he can't | 1:38:36 | 1:38:40 | |
afford to live. Think of the
talented young woman from a | 1:38:40 | 1:38:45 | |
working-class background who cannot
afford to take an entry-level | 1:38:45 | 1:38:48 | |
professional job because she
wouldn't be able to live nearby. | 1:38:48 | 1:38:51 | |
It's not so hard to accept that door
opening internship in London if your | 1:38:51 | 1:38:59 | |
parents on a large house in central
London. It's a much greater | 1:38:59 | 1:39:02 | |
challenge if you share a room with
your siblings in a North Wales | 1:39:02 | 1:39:06 | |
Terrace. So the shortage of housing
in this country reinforces | 1:39:06 | 1:39:10 | |
inequality. It prevents social
mobility and stops people fulfilling | 1:39:10 | 1:39:15 | |
their potential. It creates and
exacerbates divisions between | 1:39:15 | 1:39:19 | |
generations and between those who
own property and those who do not. | 1:39:19 | 1:39:24 | |
And it undermines something more,
something less tangible but just as | 1:39:24 | 1:39:30 | |
important, the sense of community,
of belonging. Of responsibility that | 1:39:30 | 1:39:33 | |
comes with owning your own home, or
having an affordable, secure, | 1:39:33 | 1:39:39 | |
long-term tenancy. I still vividly
remember the first home I shared | 1:39:39 | 1:39:43 | |
with my husband, Philip. Not only
our actors on the walls and books on | 1:39:43 | 1:39:48 | |
the shelves, but also the security
that came from knowing we couldn't | 1:39:48 | 1:39:51 | |
be asked to move on at short notice.
And because we had that security, | 1:39:51 | 1:39:55 | |
because we had a place to go back
to, it was that much easier to play | 1:39:55 | 1:40:00 | |
an active role in our community. To
share in the common purpose of a | 1:40:00 | 1:40:04 | |
free society. And that is what this
country should be about. Not just | 1:40:04 | 1:40:10 | |
having a roof over your head, but
having a stake in your community and | 1:40:10 | 1:40:13 | |
its future. All that is put at risk
by the mismatch between housing | 1:40:13 | 1:40:19 | |
supply and housing demand. And the
soaring prices that have resulted. | 1:40:19 | 1:40:26 | |
This government is already taking
action to help hard-pressed buyers. | 1:40:26 | 1:40:30 | |
We are putting in extra £10 billion
into help to buy, giving another | 1:40:30 | 1:40:36 | |
135,000 families a step up the
property ladder. We are scrapping | 1:40:36 | 1:40:40 | |
stamp duty for 80% of first-time
buyers and looking at ways to make | 1:40:40 | 1:40:44 | |
the whole process of buying and
selling homes quicker, easier and | 1:40:44 | 1:40:48 | |
cheaper. But to stop the seemingly
endless rise in house prices, we | 1:40:48 | 1:40:54 | |
simply have to build more homes.
Especially in the places where an | 1:40:54 | 1:40:59 | |
affordability is greatest. -- where
the lack of affordability is | 1:40:59 | 1:41:06 | |
greatest to stop doing so requires
action on many fronts and at the | 1:41:06 | 1:41:08 | |
heart of the matter is the planning
process. Planning professionals | 1:41:08 | 1:41:12 | |
might not be as visible as the
bricklayers, carpenters and roofers, | 1:41:12 | 1:41:16 | |
but we cannot build the homes we
need without them. Because if there | 1:41:16 | 1:41:20 | |
is one thing I learned from my time
on Merton Council, its that good | 1:41:20 | 1:41:24 | |
planning is all about detail. It's
very easy for a politician to stand | 1:41:24 | 1:41:28 | |
up and say he or she will build
however many homes in however many | 1:41:28 | 1:41:31 | |
years. But it's an empty promise if
they don't also address the smaller | 1:41:31 | 1:41:38 | |
issues that underpin it. Where in
the country will they be built? In | 1:41:38 | 1:41:43 | |
what communities, what sites, what
kind of homes will they be and what | 1:41:43 | 1:41:46 | |
infrastructure will be needed to
support them? Will the plans be | 1:41:46 | 1:41:50 | |
imposed from above or will local
people have a say in what happens in | 1:41:50 | 1:41:54 | |
their area? These are the kind of
questions that need to be answered | 1:41:54 | 1:41:57 | |
by anyone who is serious about
getting homes built. They are the | 1:41:57 | 1:42:02 | |
kind of questions asked every day by
planning professionals. And they are | 1:42:02 | 1:42:05 | |
the kind of questions this
government is answering with the new | 1:42:05 | 1:42:10 | |
fairer more effective planning rules
we are launching today. When using | 1:42:10 | 1:42:18 | |
correctly, as was the case for many
years, -- when used incorrectly, as | 1:42:18 | 1:42:24 | |
was a case for many years, it can
block up the system. But in the | 1:42:24 | 1:42:30 | |
right hands it can help regulate,
shape and drive the construction of | 1:42:30 | 1:42:34 | |
homes in this country. This
government is rewriting the rules on | 1:42:34 | 1:42:37 | |
planning with a major overhaul being
published today. We are giving | 1:42:37 | 1:42:41 | |
councils and developers the backing
they need to get more homes built | 1:42:41 | 1:42:44 | |
more quickly. More homes at prices
that are affordable for first-time | 1:42:44 | 1:42:49 | |
buyers. More homes for NHS staff,
teachers, firefighters and other key | 1:42:49 | 1:42:55 | |
workers on whom all communities
depend. More homes for rent on | 1:42:55 | 1:43:00 | |
family friendly, three-year
tenancies. We are streamlining the | 1:43:00 | 1:43:03 | |
planning process so much-needed
homes are not held up by endless | 1:43:03 | 1:43:07 | |
appeals and bureaucracy. We are
making it easier for neglected and | 1:43:07 | 1:43:11 | |
abandoned commercial sites to be
turned into housing. And we are | 1:43:11 | 1:43:15 | |
making sure councils do all they can
to find sites, granted planning | 1:43:15 | 1:43:19 | |
permissions and build homes. That
includes creating a nationwide | 1:43:19 | 1:43:24 | |
standard that shows how many homes
authorities need to plan for in | 1:43:24 | 1:43:28 | |
their area, making the system fairer
and more transparent. Our new rules | 1:43:28 | 1:43:32 | |
will see to it that is the right
infrastructure is in place to | 1:43:32 | 1:43:37 | |
support such developments. When
people propose large scale the | 1:43:37 | 1:43:41 | |
relevant in their area, it's often
because they are worried their | 1:43:41 | 1:43:43 | |
village or town will not be able to
bear the weight of hundreds of new | 1:43:43 | 1:43:48 | |
arrivals. Their schools are already
full and roads already congested. | 1:43:48 | 1:43:51 | |
The waiting list at their GP is
already too long. They want to know | 1:43:51 | 1:43:56 | |
that any new homes will be
accompanied by appropriate new | 1:43:56 | 1:43:59 | |
facilities and infrastructure. And
under our new planning rules, that | 1:43:59 | 1:44:04 | |
is exactly what will happen. Local
communities will be put at the heart | 1:44:04 | 1:44:09 | |
of the planning process, by seeing
to it that all areas have an | 1:44:09 | 1:44:12 | |
up-to-date plan. Yet we must not
lose sight of the fact that planning | 1:44:12 | 1:44:17 | |
for the homes we need is not the
same as building the homes we need. | 1:44:17 | 1:44:23 | |
After all, families can't live in a
planning permission. A well-designed | 1:44:23 | 1:44:27 | |
local plan will not keep your
children safe and warm at night. The | 1:44:27 | 1:44:32 | |
reforms driven forward under our
last Prime Minister led to a great | 1:44:32 | 1:44:37 | |
and welcome increase in the number
of planning permission is granted, | 1:44:37 | 1:44:40 | |
but we did not see a corresponding
rise in the number of homes being | 1:44:40 | 1:44:43 | |
built. All of that is changing. The
secretary of State for housing, | 1:44:43 | 1:44:49 | |
Sajid Javid, along with his
ministerial team and their | 1:44:49 | 1:44:52 | |
officials, are doing incredible work
in tackling failings at every level | 1:44:52 | 1:44:55 | |
of the housing sector. I have taken
personal charge of meeting the | 1:44:55 | 1:45:00 | |
housing challenge, leading a task
force that brings together ministers | 1:45:00 | 1:45:03 | |
and officials from every corner of
the answer, all the evidence shows | 1:45:03 | 1:45:15 | |
that just reforming planning and
expecting the developers to build | 1:45:15 | 1:45:19 | |
the homes we need is pie in the sky.
Of course they have a clear and | 1:45:19 | 1:45:23 | |
vital role to play, but the
government must also step in if | 1:45:23 | 1:45:26 | |
homes are going to get built. | 1:45:26 | 1:45:32 | |
We are committing at least £44
billion of funding to support the | 1:45:32 | 1:45:36 | |
housing market. We have changed the
rules so authorities facing the | 1:45:36 | 1:45:41 | |
greatest affordability pressures can
access the finance they need to | 1:45:41 | 1:45:44 | |
build more council homes for local
people. We have given homes England | 1:45:44 | 1:45:48 | |
a more muscular proactive role in
site Assembly, bringing together | 1:45:48 | 1:45:53 | |
patches of land to create a coherent
site suitable for development. We | 1:45:53 | 1:45:57 | |
are investigating innovative, modern
construction methods that get more | 1:45:57 | 1:46:02 | |
homes build more quickly. The £5
billion housing infrastructure fund | 1:46:02 | 1:46:07 | |
has already made its first awards,
investing almost £900 million in the | 1:46:07 | 1:46:14 | |
roads, cycle parts, flood defences
and other essential works that will | 1:46:14 | 1:46:18 | |
allow for the construction of up to
200,000 homes that would otherwise | 1:46:18 | 1:46:21 | |
not get built. And we have put an
additional £1.5 billion into the | 1:46:21 | 1:46:30 | |
home-building fund, helping smaller
developers build homes that don't | 1:46:30 | 1:46:34 | |
attract finance from the private
sector. As one builder put it, after | 1:46:34 | 1:46:39 | |
finishing a development in
Derbyshire, the banks were very | 1:46:39 | 1:46:42 | |
sceptical and unhelpful. Let's pause
and get an immediate reaction to | 1:46:42 | 1:46:48 | |
some of the things Theresa May has
been saying. Naomi Willis is here, | 1:46:48 | 1:46:53 | |
her family has lived in nine rented
houses in nine years. | 1:46:53 | 1:47:01 | |
We can also speak
to Kevin Hollinrake - | 1:47:02 | 1:47:04 | |
Conservative MP for Thirsk
and Malton and member of the Housing | 1:47:04 | 1:47:12 | |
Select Committee, and to Tom Shaw -
Labour member of Luton Council. | 1:47:12 | 1:47:17 | |
Luton is one of the fastest
growing cities in England | 1:47:17 | 1:47:19 | |
but has been accused of being slow
to build houses for | 1:47:19 | 1:47:22 | |
the growing population. | 1:47:22 | 1:47:24 | |
Kevin, we need 300,000 homes
builty each year to fix | 1:47:24 | 1:47:27 | |
the housing crisis -
how does this latest plan do that? | 1:47:27 | 1:47:31 | |
There is a 50% increase in the
number of new home completions since | 1:47:31 | 1:47:36 | |
the recession but we need to build a
lot more, we need 217,000 new homes | 1:47:36 | 1:47:43 | |
last year -- we built. Since 2010
you have never reached the 300,000 | 1:47:43 | 1:47:49 | |
figure in any year. The last time we
reached that figure was 1972 so | 1:47:49 | 1:47:55 | |
there's an awful lot of work to do
and buses to get right and that's | 1:47:55 | 1:47:58 | |
what the Prime Minister was
outlining. Many local authorities to | 1:47:58 | 1:48:05 | |
put effective plans in place. We
need developers to build more homes | 1:48:05 | 1:48:11 | |
and deallocate sites where
developers don't develop and we need | 1:48:11 | 1:48:16 | |
more small builders, and more land
to be released, public sector land | 1:48:16 | 1:48:23 | |
and private sector land, and we need
to have a decision about the price | 1:48:23 | 1:48:26 | |
we are paying for that land to make
sure homes are more affordable. They | 1:48:26 | 1:48:31 | |
are all just words, with respect.
This there has been a 100% increase | 1:48:31 | 1:48:36 | |
in the number of new home starts...
In this speech, I'm talking about. | 1:48:36 | 1:48:43 | |
But her policies are absolutely
right. York has not had a local plan | 1:48:43 | 1:48:48 | |
for over 50 years which puts more
pressure on neighbouring local | 1:48:48 | 1:48:51 | |
authorities. Their numbers in their
plan are around 300 short of the | 1:48:51 | 1:48:56 | |
objectively assessed number of homes
required every year in York. Some | 1:48:56 | 1:49:00 | |
local authorities are gaming the
system because it can be politically | 1:49:00 | 1:49:09 | |
difficult to build new homes. There
are 3 million people in this country | 1:49:09 | 1:49:17 | |
living in poverty as a result of the
house prices. We need to tackle this | 1:49:17 | 1:49:21 | |
issue now. This Naomi Willis, you
would agree. Have you heard anything | 1:49:21 | 1:49:26 | |
from Mrs May that makes you think
this will make a difference? The | 1:49:26 | 1:49:36 | |
problem is will the property
actually be affordable? Is you are | 1:49:36 | 1:49:43 | |
having five times the level of
salary to get a mortgage. By normal | 1:49:43 | 1:49:49 | |
people's standards that is not. Are
these going to go out to first time | 1:49:49 | 1:49:56 | |
buyers or our landlord is going to
come in and buy the properties. The | 1:49:56 | 1:50:01 | |
town over from us had a new
development go in and soon as they | 1:50:01 | 1:50:05 | |
were built, it was to let across all
of the properties. That's a good | 1:50:05 | 1:50:16 | |
point, how would your government
stop that from happening? Absolutely | 1:50:16 | 1:50:20 | |
right, and the Government set aside
£9 billion for affordable housing. | 1:50:20 | 1:50:25 | |
Affordable housing is 80% of market
value and quite right, to a lot of | 1:50:25 | 1:50:30 | |
people that is still unaffordable.
Housing benefit helps but we also | 1:50:30 | 1:50:33 | |
need more socially rented homes
which are around 40-50% of market | 1:50:33 | 1:50:39 | |
value. That is part of government
policy but essentially it's about | 1:50:39 | 1:50:43 | |
supply of more homes. Councils are
not doing enough, that's the bottom | 1:50:43 | 1:50:49 | |
line, isn't it? No, it's not. The
Government needs to give the council | 1:50:49 | 1:50:56 | |
's the freedom to borrow what they
need. You have a false restriction | 1:50:56 | 1:51:03 | |
on the housing revenue account. So
let councils borrow more? Yes, and | 1:51:03 | 1:51:10 | |
let them get on with the job. And I
would agree with that. Why weren't | 1:51:10 | 1:51:20 | |
the Prime Minister let them? The
housing minister is that what they | 1:51:20 | 1:51:25 | |
will let them do, in | 1:51:25 | 1:51:31 | |
will let them do, in areas... They
will be allowed to borrow more. I'm | 1:51:31 | 1:51:37 | |
going to leave it there, thank you
to all of you for your time. Thank | 1:51:37 | 1:51:45 | |
you for your messages on trans women
and their rights. Paula says, I am a | 1:51:45 | 1:51:51 | |
warm with a transgender past, I was
never a proper man. Even when I was | 1:51:51 | 1:51:56 | |
a soldier fighting for my country.
It was a constant source of regret | 1:51:56 | 1:52:00 | |
that I was not born as a girl and it
wasn't until 2005 I was able to | 1:52:00 | 1:52:06 | |
commence transition. I took seven
years of hormonal treatments, | 1:52:06 | 1:52:09 | |
therapeutic support and walking the
walk before I had corrective | 1:52:09 | 1:52:13 | |
surgery. I now have a gender | 1:52:13 | 1:52:25 | |
recognition certificates and I'm
accepted by my female friends and | 1:52:28 | 1:52:30 | |
work colleagues. I would ask, who is
more female? Who, through the | 1:52:30 | 1:52:33 | |
accident of birth, was born female,
or I? | 1:52:33 | 1:52:35 | |
This is from geek, I am a
transgender woman, my solution is | 1:52:35 | 1:52:42 | |
simple, I only use non-gendered
toilets. E-mail from Tracy, these | 1:52:42 | 1:52:47 | |
people are judging people on their
genitals. How do they know what | 1:52:47 | 1:52:55 | |
genitals anyone has unless they swan
around naked? Thanks for getting in | 1:52:55 | 1:52:59 | |
touch. | 1:52:59 | 1:53:03 | |
"America has failed our kids,"
the words of a mother whose children | 1:53:09 | 1:53:12 | |
have been caught up in both
the Columbine and Florida | 1:53:12 | 1:53:14 | |
school shootings. | 1:53:14 | 1:53:15 | |
12 students and one teacher
were killed in Colombine and 12 | 1:53:15 | 1:53:20 | |
students and five adults
were killed in Florida. | 1:53:20 | 1:53:23 | |
Celia Randolph's children attended
both schools at the time | 1:53:23 | 1:53:25 | |
of the shooting and on each ocassion
she recieved the call that every | 1:53:25 | 1:53:33 | |
American parent dreads, saying that
a shooting was under way. | 1:53:37 | 1:53:39 | |
Now she's using those
tragedies to speak out on gun | 1:53:39 | 1:53:42 | |
control in the states. | 1:53:42 | 1:53:45 | |
We can speak to her now
alongside her 16-year-old son | 1:53:45 | 1:53:47 | |
Christian, who is a junior
at Marjory Stoneman Douglas | 1:53:47 | 1:53:49 | |
High School in Parkland. | 1:53:49 | 1:53:54 | |
And her daughter Chelsea, who is 26
and was caught up in Columbine. Good | 1:53:54 | 1:54:03 | |
morning. Thank you for talking to
us. I want to ask you as a mother | 1:54:03 | 1:54:09 | |
about getting a call, about getting
a text to say there is shooting | 1:54:09 | 1:54:15 | |
under at your child's school. This
before we go there, I do need to | 1:54:15 | 1:54:23 | |
correct the information you just
provided. My daughter Chelsea did | 1:54:23 | 1:54:28 | |
not attend Columbine, Columbine was
about an hour away from where we | 1:54:28 | 1:54:35 | |
lived, and she attended different
high school which had a of a | 1:54:35 | 1:54:38 | |
different nature. I apologise,
Celia. | 1:54:38 | 1:54:49 | |
Celia. As far as getting a call and
a text both times, the call came | 1:54:49 | 1:54:54 | |
from our older daughter Natasha.
Prior to getting that call from | 1:54:54 | 1:55:01 | |
Natasha, this time for Christian I
got a text from a friend of mine | 1:55:01 | 1:55:05 | |
whose daughter had been in school
with Chelsea, and she knew now that | 1:55:05 | 1:55:14 | |
we lived here and that Christian
attended the school. I got a text | 1:55:14 | 1:55:21 | |
from her asking me in general where
he was, then immediately got the | 1:55:21 | 1:55:26 | |
call from Natasha telling me about
the shooting and both times it was | 1:55:26 | 1:55:30 | |
heart stopping. You began to text
Christian of course, like any parent | 1:55:30 | 1:55:37 | |
would in that scenario. Actually I
ran to my car and started driving | 1:55:37 | 1:55:41 | |
over there, and didn't actually
think to text, to be honest, until I | 1:55:41 | 1:55:49 | |
got closer because I knew I needed
to be there. It is. Texting him as | 1:55:49 | 1:55:54 | |
soon as it was safe, at stoplights,
and there was no answer and I kept | 1:55:54 | 1:56:00 | |
texting and texting. That was
really, really scary because the | 1:56:00 | 1:56:06 | |
kids of course answer back
immediately. Christian, I gather you | 1:56:06 | 1:56:13 | |
went back to school for the first
time on Wednesday. How are you? I | 1:56:13 | 1:56:20 | |
think we are all still processing,
me and the other kids, but we are | 1:56:20 | 1:56:28 | |
trying to salvage something out of
this, make a change of lethal | 1:56:28 | 1:56:32 | |
doesn't happen again. Chelsea, what
is your view on the gun-control | 1:56:32 | 1:56:39 | |
legislation in the States and what
has to change now? I think it's | 1:56:39 | 1:56:44 | |
important we all use our voices and
that we make a stand to make sure | 1:56:44 | 1:56:49 | |
the military style weapons get the
end, that there are harsher | 1:56:49 | 1:56:56 | |
background checks and they are more
comprehensive. We believe that | 1:56:56 | 1:57:04 | |
18-year-olds should not be able to
obtain military style weapons. | 1:57:04 | 1:57:12 | |
Jason, do you think this really is a
tipping point? I believe so. These | 1:57:12 | 1:57:19 | |
shootings are affecting so many
people that it's got to a point that | 1:57:19 | 1:57:23 | |
everyone is getting together,
whether you are Republican or | 1:57:23 | 1:57:28 | |
Democrat we are coming together as
parents, right? And we are trying to | 1:57:28 | 1:57:33 | |
address this issue so it is a
tipping point I believe. Celia, what | 1:57:33 | 1:57:38 | |
do you believe your mission is now?
I have been thrown into this. When | 1:57:38 | 1:57:46 | |
it happened to Chelsea, that was in
2006, we looked at it as a random | 1:57:46 | 1:57:52 | |
act of violence in our community.
This is a tipping point for all of | 1:57:52 | 1:57:58 | |
us and moving forward I cannot be
silent any more. So I want to | 1:57:58 | 1:58:03 | |
advocate more for reasonable
gun-control and restriction and | 1:58:03 | 1:58:11 | |
safety in our schools and also
address the mental health issues. | 1:58:11 | 1:58:22 | |
Thank you, and I apologise for my
error again, but thank you for your | 1:58:23 | 1:58:28 | |
time. Thanks for your company | 1:58:28 | 1:58:30 |