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It's Friday, it's nine o'clock. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:08 | |
I'm Chloe Tilley. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
Welcome to the programme | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Only months after Donald Trump
threatened North Korea with "fire | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
and fury" and described Kim Jong-un
as "little rocket man" - | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
the US President has
agreed to an offer to meet | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
the country's leader. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
It's a move described by South Korea
as a "milestone for peace". | 0:00:23 | 0:00:29 | |
He expressed his eagerness to meet
President Trump as soon as possible. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:37 | |
President Trump officiated at a
briefing and said he would meet Kim | 0:00:37 | 0:00:42 | |
Jong-un by May, to achieve
prominent denuclearisation. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
It's the first time ever a sitting
US President will have met | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
a North Korean leader. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:51 | |
We'll ask what the historic
meeting might achieve. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:57 | |
A teenager who attacked six moped
riders with acid in a 90-minute | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
rampage across London
is being sentenced today. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
We'll meet one of his
victims | 0:01:05 | 0:01:06 | |
and find out how his
life has changed. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
And the last print edition of iconic
music magazine NME is out today. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Bosses say it's no longer
financially viable. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
We'll look back at its history -
with a former editor and the lead | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
singer of The Vaccines. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:27 | |
Hello. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:33 | |
Welcome to the programme. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:34 | |
We're live until 11 this morning. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Today we're talking
about the so-called latte levy. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
Ministers have failed to back
a recommendation to put a 25p charge | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
on takeaway coffee cups. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Instead, they praised coffee
shops who give discounts | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
to customers who bring
in their own reusable cups. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
So what is more likely to encourage
you to think about the environment | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
and use less plastic? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:55 | |
The carrot or the stick approach? | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
We're keen to hear your views. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:58 | |
Use the hashtag #VictoriaLive. | 0:01:58 | 0:01:59 | |
If you text,
you will be charged | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
at the standard network rate. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:08 | |
Our top story today. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:09 | |
President Trump has accepted
an offer from North Korea to meet | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
Kim Jong-un for talks. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:13 | |
The meeting will happen by May. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
No serving US president has ever met
a North Korean leader. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
The surprise announcement was made
by senior South Korean | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
officials in Washington,
who passed on a letter | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
from the North Korean leader. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
Our Washington correspondent
Chris Buckler has this report. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:30 | |
With missiles and displays
of military might, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:53 | |
North Korea has at times seemed
nothing short of defiant | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
in the face of sanctions
and international condemnation | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
of its nuclear programme but,
despite appearances, | 0:02:58 | 0:02:59 | |
it seems Kim Jong-un wants to talk. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
South Korean officials,
who met the North Korean leader, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
say he has committed
himself to denuclearisation | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
and they have now delivered
a message from Kim Jong-un that | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
caught many in the White House
completely off guard. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
Kim pledged that North Korea
will refrain from any further | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
nuclear or missile tests. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
He understands that the routine
joint military exercises | 0:03:15 | 0:03:16 | |
between the Republic of Korea
and the United States must continue. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:23 | |
And he expressed his eagerness
to meet President Trump | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
as soon as possible. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
The idea of a face-to-face meeting
between President Trump | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
and Kim Jong-un, by May,
seems remarkable, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
given the months of insults
and threats hurled between them. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:41 | |
They will be met with fire and fury. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
Rocket Man is on a suicide
mission for himself. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:50 | |
But the tone has now changed. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
On Twitter, Donald Trump said that
great progress was being made | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
but that sanctions will remain
until an agreement is reached. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
However, that meeting
is being planned. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:05 | |
Some in the White House
will urge cautious | 0:04:05 | 0:04:06 | |
and there will be no suspension
of the joint military exercises | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
involving the United States
and South Korea. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
This may be a move away
from fire and fury, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
perhaps even towards friendship but,
in the long-term, that will depend | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
on whether that message
coming from Pyongyang | 0:04:16 | 0:04:17 | |
proves to be one of
propaganda or progress. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
Chris Buckler, BBc News, Washington. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:27 | |
Our correspondent
Robin Brant is in Seoul. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:36 | |
We can't underestimate the
significance of this meeting. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
It looks like it will be before the
end of May. This is huge, no sitting | 0:04:41 | 0:04:48 | |
US president has met with a North
Korean leader before. It is | 0:04:48 | 0:04:54 | |
completely unprecedented, we don't
know when it exactly where. | 0:04:54 | 0:05:03 | |
know when it exactly where. It may
be in the demilitarised zone, on the | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
border between the North. President
Trump wanted to get their in the | 0:05:05 | 0:05:14 | |
past. On the campaign trail
President Trump said he wanted to | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
meet with Kim Jong-un. He has been
talking about that for some while. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:25 | |
This is hugely unconventional,
usually we have talks and process | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
over several years ending in a
symbolic summit and possibly an | 0:05:30 | 0:05:37 | |
agreement. This is the opposite,
only a few months ago they were | 0:05:37 | 0:05:43 | |
calling each other names,
annihilating the US. We have the | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
prospect within weeks of a
face-to-face meeting. At the centre | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
will be the prospect of
denuclearisation which is what the | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
south wants. It is pretty much what
everyone wants for this peninsular. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:06 | |
Sorry, Cleary the line is not clear.
We will talk about this more after | 0:06:09 | 0:06:17 | |
10am.
The | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
Annita McVeigh is in
the BBC Newsroom | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
The Newsroom | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
with a summary of the rest
of the days news. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
Pressure is growing
on counter-terror officers | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
to identify the source of a nerve
agent used in the attempted murder | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
of a former Russian spy
and his daughter in Salisbury. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
The Home Secretary
Amber Rudd has visited | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Salisbury this morning,
where she's been speaking | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
to police about the case. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:40 | |
State media in Russia has
reacted angrily to any | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
suggestion that the Kremlin
could be responsible. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
Andy Moore reports. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
In a sign of how extensive
this inquiry has become, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
police cordoned off and set a guard
over the grave of Sergei Skripal's | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
wife, in Salisbury. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
And nearby, in the same cemetery,
a similar police presence | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
at the spot where his son's
ashes are interned. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:09 | |
Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey
was one of the first to help | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
the Skripals, as they
fought for their lives. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
He is said to be in a serious
condition but recovering. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:20 | |
He is a great character,
he is a huge presence in Wiltshire | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
Police, well liked, well loved,
massively dedicated officer. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
He is clearly receiving high
specialist treatment | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
so he is well set up. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:38 | |
He's not the Nick that
I know but, of course, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
he's been receiving a high | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
level of treatment. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
Boris Johnson... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:44 | |
In Russia, state dominated media
made fun of Boris Johnson and joked | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
about what happened
to former Kremlin spies. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
"If you are a professional traitor,"
he says, "my advice - | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
don't move to England. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Something is not right there,
the climate perhaps, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
but too many bad
things go on there." | 0:07:55 | 0:08:01 | |
Sergei Skripal and his daughter,
Yulia, are still critically ill. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
The BBC has been told the nerve
agent used against them was not | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
sarin or VX but
something much rarer. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
The British Government says it knows
what that substance was but is not | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
naming it at the moment. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Andy Moore, BBC News. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
With us now is our
correspondent Leila Nathoo. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:31 | |
did Amber Rudd make any comment when
she visited this morning? | 0:08:32 | 0:08:39 | |
She is expected to speak later, she
is still in Salisbury this morning. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
She came to the scene to see the
police cordoned, at the bench still | 0:08:44 | 0:08:51 | |
covered by a police tent. She met
with some local business owners and | 0:08:51 | 0:08:58 | |
talked about how the community had
been affected. And with the local MP | 0:08:58 | 0:09:04 | |
and the Wiltshire Police Chief
Constable. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
I believe she is talking to some of
the first responders over there, in | 0:09:06 | 0:09:13 | |
Salisbury city centre. We are
expecting to hear from the Home | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
Secretary later.
The focus now for police is trying | 0:09:16 | 0:09:23 | |
to piece together the movements,
ascertain exactly how this nerve | 0:09:23 | 0:09:29 | |
agent was delivered, administered,
when it happened and how. There was | 0:09:29 | 0:09:36 | |
a flurry of activity at the home of
Sergei Skripal yesterday, police | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
have set up tents, the cordoned was
widened, that seems to be by police | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
activity is going on.
Thank you. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
NHS employers and health unions
are understood to be close | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
to agreeing a three-year pay deal
for hundreds of thousands | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
of staff in England. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
The Government has already said it
will abolish the 1% | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
pay cap on public sector pay
and the Chancellor has indicated | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
he will provide extra funding
to meet the higher costs. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
The United States will
impose tariffs on imports | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
of aluminium and steel. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
President Trump signed
off on the move | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
at the White House late yesterday. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
It's sparked fears
of a global trade war. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
The European Union is
considering retaliating | 0:10:16 | 0:10:17 | |
with charges on US made jeans,
motorbikes, bourbon and oranges. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:25 | |
BBC News has uncovered
allegations of bullying | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
and harassment in the House
of Commons affecting | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
dozens of female staff. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:31 | |
Workers known as "clerks" have
told Newsnight they have | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
experienced aggressive
and threatening behaviour by some | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
MPs and a lack of proper redress. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
The Speaker of the House John Bercow
has strongly denied | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
a claim that he bullied
a former private secretary. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:47 | |
A man, who became known as the M25
rapist for carrying out | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
a series of sex attacks
in the Home Counties, has died | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
at Wakefield Prison in Yorkshire. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
Antoni Imiela was 63 and had
had a heart condition. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
He'd been convicted of raping eight
women and girls in 2001 and 2002. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:04 | |
A teenager who attacked six moped
riders with acid in a 90-minute | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
rampage across London
is being sentenced later. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
17-year-old Derryck John
from Croydon admitted targeting | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
the riders in north and east London
in July last year. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
He sprayed them in the face
with a noxious liquid and stole two | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
mopeds before trying
to take another four. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
Police said one attack
had left a rider with | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
"life-changing injuries". | 0:11:22 | 0:11:30 | |
A proposal to impose a so-called
latte levy on throwaway | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
coffee cups has been rejected
by the government. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
MPs on the Environmental Audit
Committee had suggested a charge | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
of 25p for disposable coffee cups
to reduce their use. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
But ministers say it is better
for shops to offer voluntary | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
discounts to customers
bringing their own cups. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
Roger Harrabin reports. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:57 | |
What do you do with your used cup?
Should you throw it in the rubbish | 0:11:57 | 0:12:03 | |
or recycle it? MPs on the
environmental audit can it eats | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
steak coffee shops should be charged
25p for every cup they sell that | 0:12:07 | 0:12:13 | |
cannot be fully recycled. The
Government does not like the idea. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
Ministers say they are not convinced
the recycling industry can handle | 0:12:17 | 0:12:23 | |
supposedly recyclable cups that are
covered in cold cappuccino froth. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
They said it is better for shops to
offer discounts to people bringing | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
their own monks.
We need a variety of solutions. It | 0:12:31 | 0:12:38 | |
is great to see retailers starting
to take action but that should not | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
be at the expense of the Government
also showing leadership. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
The MPs say this suggests the
Government is not serious about | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
tackling the problem of waste. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
That's a summary of
the latest BBC News. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
More at 9.30. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
Do get in touch with us
throughout the morning. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:06 | |
Lots of you on the latte levy. One
saying, I use plastic cups because | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
they are more hygienic. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
they are more hygienic. Pat says,
not taxing cups shows the Government | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
is not only playing its service to
environmental issues, more people | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
bring their own if they had to pick
extra, like bags. Lots of you | 0:13:25 | 0:13:33 | |
getting in touch. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:33 | |
Use the hashtag #VictoriaLive. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:34 | |
If you text, you will be charged
at the standard network rate. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Let's get some sport. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
Good morning. I cannot believe the
Winter Paralympics Opening Ceremony | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
is today. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:48 | |
The largest ever Winter Paralympics
will officially kick off today | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
with the opening
ceremony in Pyeongchang. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
A record 567 athletes from 48
countries, plus of course | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
the Neutral Paralympic Athlete
delegation which includes around | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
30 Russian athletes
will be taking part. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
There will be | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
80 medals awarded in six sports,
alpine skiing, snowboarding, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
para-ice hockey, wheelchair curling, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
cross-country skiing. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
And biathlon where
Scott Meenagh will be | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
the first British athlete to compete
in a nordic skiing event | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
at a Paralympics for 20 years. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:22 | |
So a small slice of history for him. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
The ceremony starts at 11 o'clock | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
this morning. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
With snowboarder Owen Pick selected
as flagbearer at his first Games, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
eight years after losing a leg
in a Taliban blast while serving for | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
the British Army in Afghanistan. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:42 | |
He says it's an honour to represent
the flag he served under | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
while in the military but actually
thought he was getting | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
in trouble just before he was told. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
A moment for his parents to be proud
of. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Now, the action gets underway
in the early hours of tomorrow | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
morning. | 0:14:58 | 0:14:59 | |
But when it does begin
we're hoping for more | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
scenes like this. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:02 | |
When Kelly Gallgher won super-G gold | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
with guide Charlotte Evans
in Sochi four years ago. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
She's got a new guide this time
around but will still hope | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
to contribute to a rather ambitious
medal target for Paralympics GB. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
They want to win between six
and 12 medals, with a goal | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
of at least seven. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
If they can do that, it would be
their second-highest medal haul | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
and best showing since
Innsbruck, back in 1984. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Everything about the team excites
me, whether it be returning para | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
Olympians looking to recreate their
medal success or create it, the | 0:15:37 | 0:15:43 | |
youngsters, Milly and James, who are
teenagers in Sochi. I'm sure they | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
are looking to improve on those. But
the fact we are represented in five | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
sports for the first time and the
Alpine skiing and curling, the | 0:15:53 | 0:15:59 | |
mainstays, but snowboard and Nordic
as well. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Briscoe went on to say that
increased investment is linked | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
to performance and so extra funding
should mean the medals do | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
flow - fingers crossed. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:14 | |
Really inspiring staff and another
inspirational woman, as if she | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
hasn't done enough in is credible
stuff in her career, she gets back | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
on the court six months after a
baby. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:27 | |
Good argument she is greatest
sportsperson of all time. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Serena Williams won her first
singles match on the WTA Tour | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
for nearly 14 months as she returned
after the birth of her child. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
She's back at the age of 36,
clearly showing that | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
number is irrelevant,
as -he's reached the second | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
round at Indian Wells
with a straight sets victory over | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
Kazakhstan's Zarina Diyas. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
It was her first singles
match on the Tour | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
since she winning the 2017
Australian Open while pregnant. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
Afterwards the 23-time Grand Slam
singles champion said, | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
"I'm a little rusty
but it doesn't matter". | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
I'd imagine | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
she will have a big year ahead
despite her time off. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
A teenager is to be sentenced this
morning after pleading guilty | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
to carrying out acid attacks
on six moped riders. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
Derryck John had been trying
to steal his victims' bikes | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
in the 90-minute rampage
across London in July of last year. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
The 17-year-old from Croydon,
was convicted of throwing | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
a corrosive liquid with intent
to disable, burn, maim, disfigure | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
or cause grievous bodily harm -
a crime which, for an adult, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
can lead to life imprisonment. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:35 | |
Let's talk now to Jabed Hussain. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:36 | |
He was one of Derryck
John's victims. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
Thank you for coming in and talking
to us. I can't imagine how difficult | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
it is to relive this and a difficult
day, clearly. Tell me what you | 0:17:43 | 0:17:49 | |
remember of the night of the attack.
Thank you for having me here. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:58 | |
Basically I do remember most of it.
When he threw acid on me. Where were | 0:17:58 | 0:18:07 | |
you? I was on the Hackney Road. You
were a delivery driver on your | 0:18:07 | 0:18:14 | |
scooter? I was finishing my work.
Were you stopped at the time? I was | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
at a traffic light. What happened? I
was looking for the easiest way to | 0:18:19 | 0:18:25 | |
go home and I stopped at a traffic
light and I heard the sound of water | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
on my left hand side. Then I
realised something was wrong, very | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
wrong. I looked to the left and I
saw two boys on the motorbike, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:41 | |
literally next to me and I never
realised they were next to me. They | 0:18:41 | 0:18:49 | |
were trying to do it again and were
trying to get me off my bike. You | 0:18:49 | 0:18:55 | |
had your helmet on, luckily, and I
presume that helped save you from a | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
lot of the potential burns. That's
right. I had a helmet on and it | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
saved my face. What did the acid due
to the helmet? It was melted. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
Melted? Yes. What point did you
realise what was happening because | 0:19:09 | 0:19:15 | |
it clearly happened very fast. I was
not prepared for that. I never | 0:19:15 | 0:19:22 | |
thought I would be the victim of an
acid attack or somebody would throw | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
acid on me or into my face. I never
thought I would be targeted, so I | 0:19:25 | 0:19:32 | |
was not prepared and I didn't know
what to do. I was asking for water | 0:19:32 | 0:19:40 | |
because it was getting dry and
worse. I was going to the doors and | 0:19:40 | 0:19:47 | |
asking for water. Did anybody stop
to help you? One of the ladies was | 0:19:47 | 0:19:54 | |
walking past, she was getting the
water from the shops. Could you feel | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
the acid on your skin at this point?
Not at that moment, but I knew it | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
was something and then they were
doing further checks and going to | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
the hospital as well. So, lasting
damage from swallowing some of it? | 0:20:08 | 0:20:15 | |
What has that meant for you
health-wise, the impact of | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
swallowing acid? Severe chest pain
which has never happened to me | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
before. And a breathing problem
sometime, it's not normal, it's | 0:20:22 | 0:20:31 | |
totally different than before after
the incident. So where did you | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
suffer burns? On my left hand side.
I have recovered now there, anyway. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:45 | |
Did you find it difficult to look in
the mirror the first time after the | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
attack? Was it something that
troubled you? I've thought I had | 0:20:50 | 0:20:56 | |
lost my face unless I saw it in the
mirror, I never thought I would get | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
my face back. Everybody is saying
that you are OK, and I thought that | 0:21:00 | 0:21:07 | |
they were trying to make me happy,
but when I saw my face, then I | 0:21:07 | 0:21:13 | |
realised, and I saw the other guy in
hospital, with the same issues I was | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
better than him. Someone else who
had also been attacked was at the | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
same hospital question might yes, on
the same night. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
So what effect does it have on you
now, moving on? Less than one year | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
after the attack. Do you feel able
to go out by yourself? When I tried | 0:21:32 | 0:21:43 | |
to go myself, I always look right
and left when I go to the car. I | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
always look right and left and I
locked the doors and windows inside | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
the car. If anybody comes to my
house without giving me a call. | 0:21:52 | 0:22:04 | |
house without giving me a call. That
has never happened to me before. My | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
wife was telling me not to speak out
because I might be targeted what she | 0:22:08 | 0:22:16 | |
worried that you could be targeted
again? This is what she thinks, I | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
might be targeted because I am
speaking up. And I am doing a | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
campaign against it and doing to go
to every college and speak to the | 0:22:24 | 0:22:31 | |
use and invite them to talk to us
for a flexible job and also trying | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
to keep them free training and
equipment to start the flexible job | 0:22:35 | 0:22:42 | |
after school. So do you think it's
because young people don't have | 0:22:42 | 0:22:48 | |
opportunities that they are getting
sucked into this kind of world? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
Exactly. The government should look
after the use and provide them with | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
another youth clubs. And instead of
sending them to jail we should and | 0:22:56 | 0:23:05 | |
provide them with a youth club. I am
going to the | 0:23:05 | 0:23:12 | |
going to the colleges and I am
trying to help them make some money | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
as well. Have you been able to work
and go out on your mobile again? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
After the incident I have not been
back to work again. Do you feel able | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
to work? I would love to go back to
work. I would love to get back to | 0:23:27 | 0:23:34 | |
work but I need to see it's really
good money and a flexible job and I | 0:23:34 | 0:23:43 | |
am my own boss and I can start work
whenever I want. And I can finish | 0:23:43 | 0:23:50 | |
and I can drop my daughter at
school, so I love that job anyway. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:58 | |
So, today, the teenager, the
17-year-old who threw acid at you | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
and other people, five other people,
he is going to be sentenced today. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:09 | |
For you, what sentence do you want
to see? As we said in the | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
introduction this could be life
imprisonment if he was an adult, but | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
he is 17 years old. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:22 | |
he is 17 years old. When you cannot
get some experience from the country | 0:24:22 | 0:24:30 | |
-- when you look at the experience
and the country I was born, that was | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
the highest level of acid attack in
the world, and the ex-prime | 0:24:33 | 0:24:39 | |
Minister, she made an act in 2002,
which was buying and selling | 0:24:39 | 0:24:46 | |
restriction, a life sentence for
acid attackers, and if anybody buys | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
without any ID or any body without
ID, they would be in jail for a long | 0:24:50 | 0:24:56 | |
time. And even a life sentence. She
handled it like that. So you think | 0:24:56 | 0:25:04 | |
there should be life sentences for
anyone, irrespective of age, if they | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
carry out an acid attack? If it's
not a life sentence it should be | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
similar. Something similar to that.
I would like to know that if I did | 0:25:12 | 0:25:19 | |
this kind of crime might be in jail
for a long time. I really didn't | 0:25:19 | 0:25:25 | |
appreciate the damage that would be
done, said Derryck John, and I'm | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
terrified of the sentence and I'm
very sorry for what I did and I | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
realised I will receive a
significant sentence of | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
imprisonment. Does it help to know
he is remorseful? I think he | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
realises that now. And like I said,
I respect his age but he did this to | 0:25:40 | 0:25:54 | |
five of them, not just me. If he
would have come to me and said he | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
would sort this himself I would say,
I'm sorry, if you say sorry, I would | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
have let him go and he's like that
now but he was young and he did not | 0:26:03 | 0:26:10 | |
know what he had done, but five of
them so if five of them, if you come | 0:26:10 | 0:26:19 | |
and work with us or you go back to
normal do something good, then we | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
would forgive you, but I don't think
everybody would forgive him because | 0:26:22 | 0:26:28 | |
he tried to damage five lives, five
faces. So if we just let him go, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:34 | |
others might do that kind of crime
against. One final point. The | 0:26:34 | 0:26:40 | |
government is proposing stricter
controls on the sales of acid. Do | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
you think it goes far enough to
protect people from further attacks. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:48 | |
The 1972 act, that gives a chance to
criminals to carry acid for a second | 0:26:48 | 0:26:57 | |
time, and they would go to prison
for carrying acid, so they are | 0:26:57 | 0:27:03 | |
carrying it for a reason. He is a
criminal carrying a weapon is, so it | 0:27:03 | 0:27:09 | |
should be prison for more than that.
You need a stronger deterrent. Yes. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:16 | |
I know the government are trying to
do they best they can do, to try and | 0:27:16 | 0:27:24 | |
do the tougher sentences for
carrying | 0:27:24 | 0:27:30 | |
carrying acid, like the former Prime
Minister who was in prison, because | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
they want to keep her away from the
election. I am doing a campaign for | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
her release. She was the first lady
to make that act in the word. Jabed, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
thank you for coming in and I'm very
grateful to you. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
A Home Office
spokesperson said this. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:47 | |
Perpetrators of corrosive | 0:27:47 | 0:27:48 | |
attacks can already face up to life
imprisonment on conviction | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
and the Sentencing Council has
published a new guideline | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
on possession of bladed articles
and offensive weapons that | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
recognises these substances
as serious and highly | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
dangerous weapons. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
The Home Secretary announced
in July 2017 an action plan | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
to tackle the use of corrosive
substances in violent attacks | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
and we are making good progress
on implementing this. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
We
have put in place a set of voluntary | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
commitments with retailers | 0:28:14 | 0:28:15 | |
to restrict access to the most
harmful corrosive products. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:21 | |
More than a million NHS
staff, including nurses | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
could be in line for a pay rise. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
NHS chiefs and health unions
in England are understood | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
to be close to agreeing
a three-year pay deal. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:34 | |
The Government has already said it
would scrap the 1% cap | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
on public sector pay. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
Anisa Kadri has been looking
at this in more detail. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
What more can you tell us
about this pay deal? | 0:28:40 | 0:28:47 | |
This is an update on the talks that
have been going on between NHS | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
chiefs and health unions. You will
have seen the headlines about nurses | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
leaving the NHS and the Department
of Health is said to be very | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
concerned about recruitment problems
so it is hoped that any pay deal | 0:28:59 | 0:29:04 | |
struck will retain staff. What the
unions want is a pay deal so their | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
pay rises above the 1% public sector
pay cap put in place by the | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
government. The government says it
will get rid of the cap and what we | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
know is that a deal for staff, not
including doctors and dentists, that | 0:29:16 | 0:29:22 | |
deal is not far off. Any idea of the
specifics? Reports of a 6.5 pay | 0:29:22 | 0:29:28 | |
increase over three years in return
for NHS staff losing a day of | 0:29:28 | 0:29:34 | |
holiday, they are said to be
premature, but we do know that back | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
in September unions wrote to the
government to demand a pay rise of | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
nearly 4% and they said, when you
take into account the speed at which | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
prizes -- prices are rising, they
had suffered a pay cut. And any | 0:29:48 | 0:29:53 | |
agreement struck on this will lead
the final approval from ministers. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
Thank you for coming to explain
that. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:58 | |
Still to come. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:01 | |
We've the latest from
the Syrian enclave | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
of Eastern Ghouta and with
the situation getting ever | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
more desperate there we'll hear
from those on the ground | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
caught up in the conflict. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:10 | |
And it's farewell to
what was once Britain's | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
biggest music magazine. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
The NME will now only
be available online. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
We'll be talking about this | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
with lead singer of
The Vaccines Justin Young. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
They first appeared on the NME's
famous front cover back in 2011. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:31 | |
Time for the latest news. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Here's Annita McVeigh | 0:30:33 | 0:30:34 | |
The BBC News headlines this morning. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
President Trump has
accepted an offer | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
to meet North Korean leader
Kim Jong-un for talks. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
The first ever meeting
between a serving American president | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
and a North Korean leader
will happen by May. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:47 | |
The shock announcement was made
by senior South Korean officials | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
in Washington after months
of heightened diplomatic tensions | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
between the two countries. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un
said he is committed | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
to denuclearisation. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
Kim pledged that North Korea
will refrain from any further | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
nuclear or missile tests. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:12 | |
He understands that the routine
joint military exercises | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
between the Republic of Korea
and the United States must continue. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
And he expressed his eagerness
to meet President Trump | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
as soon as possible. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:29 | |
Pressure is growing
on counter-terror officers | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
to identify the source of a nerve
agent used in the attempted | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
murder of a former Russian
spy and his daughter. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
The Home Secretary
Amber Rudd has visited | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
Salisbury this morning,
where she's been speaking | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
to police about the case. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:42 | |
State media in Russia has
reacted angrily to any | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
suggestion that the Kremlin
could be responsible. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:52 | |
Aid agencies say a convoy has
arrived in eastern scooter. Carrying | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
aid they were prevented from
delivering in the week. -- Ghouta. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:06 | |
NHS employers and health unions
are understood to be close | 0:32:06 | 0:32:12 | |
to agreeing a three-year pay deal
for hundreds of thousands | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
of staff in England. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:18 | |
The Government has already said it
will abolish the 1% | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
pay cap on public sector pay
and the Chancellor has indicated | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
he will provide extra funding
to meet the higher costs. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:31 | |
The US will impose tariffs on
imports of aluminium and steel. The | 0:32:34 | 0:32:40 | |
EU is considering retaliating. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
That's a summary of
the latest BBC News. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
Here's some sport now. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
We're only around an hour and a half
away from opening ceremony | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
at the Winter Paralympics. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
Snowboarder Owen Pick
will be Great Britain's | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
flag-bearer in Pyeongchang
where a record 567 athletes, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
from 48 countries, will take
part in 80 medal events. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
Arsenal put their recent
problems to one side, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
with a 2-0 victory over AC Milan
in the last 16 of the Europa League. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:18 | |
Goals from Henrik Mkhitaryan
and Aaron Ramsey put | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
Arsene Wenger's side in control
of the tie, with | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
the home leg to come. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:23 | |
Serena Williams had a winning
comeback on the WTA Tour just six | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
months after giving birth
to her first child. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
She's into the second
round at Indian Wells thanks | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
to a straight sets victory over
Zarina Diyas. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
It's a critical weekend
in the Six Nations, with Ireland | 0:33:34 | 0:33:39 | |
unbeaten and at
the top of the table. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
They take on Scotland in Dublin. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:42 | |
A bonus point victory could give
them the title and deny | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
England their third Championship
in a row. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:51 | |
There are reports of air strikes
have hit eastern booster just as an | 0:33:53 | 0:34:01 | |
aid convoy finally got into the
area. Aid agencies have been | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
struggling to get supplies in. A
convoy which had to turn back this | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
week this morning crossed the front
line. Medecins Sans Frontieres says | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
more than 1000 have been killed
since an escalation in violence | 0:34:13 | 0:34:20 | |
started three weeks ago. The area
had previously been held by force as | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
opposed to the Government of
President Assad. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
Let's talk to Joelle Bassoul
from Care International | 0:34:29 | 0:34:30 | |
which is working with Syrian aid
organisations in Eastern Ghouta. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:37 | |
Dr Rim Turkmani from
the London School of Economics, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
who is Syrian and has
friends in Eastern Ghouta. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
And Ahmad Khansour who is
living in Eastern Ghouta. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
His house was destroyed
in a bomb attack. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:52 | |
Thank you all the talking to us. I
want to get a sense of the scale of | 0:34:52 | 0:34:58 | |
what is happening. For UK viewers it
is difficult to comprehend what is | 0:34:58 | 0:35:04 | |
happening in eastern scooter, give
us a sense of what life is like that | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
now?
It is a pleasure to spend Friday | 0:35:07 | 0:35:14 | |
morning addressing this situation.
But not under the bombardment around | 0:35:14 | 0:35:20 | |
me. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
me. Almost 1000 people have died and
over 3000 are injured. The situation | 0:35:24 | 0:35:30 | |
here is deteriorating rapidly.
Yesterday, 35 cases of | 0:35:30 | 0:35:45 | |
sophistication -- suffocation after
we were targeted with toxic gases. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:55 | |
People are terrified.
It is a confusing situation because | 0:36:00 | 0:36:11 | |
so many civilians are dying. You are
telling us what you have witnessed | 0:36:11 | 0:36:16 | |
but there are unconfirmed reports
about chlorine gas. Tell me about | 0:36:16 | 0:36:23 | |
your home, I know it was bombed last
week. Tell us what happened and how | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
you managed to get yourself and your
family out? | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
Myself, my family, more than 50,000
people are displaced internally | 0:36:31 | 0:36:39 | |
inside eastern Gutha. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:44 | |
inside eastern Gutha. We have been
targeted by bombardment, artillery, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
weapons. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
weapons. Right now, I am living with
a relative in their house. My family | 0:36:59 | 0:37:10 | |
are in their basement. It is a
nightmare. Including everything that | 0:37:10 | 0:37:17 | |
has happened, the moment of being
targeted, and our journey from that | 0:37:17 | 0:37:24 | |
place to this safer place.
You were in your home when it was | 0:37:24 | 0:37:31 | |
bombed?
Yes, me, my wife, two kids were at | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
my home. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:41 | |
my home. A regime helicopter made a
bombardment. Everything was | 0:37:41 | 0:37:48 | |
destroyed. We could not see for over
three minutes, we could not hear | 0:37:48 | 0:37:55 | |
anything for maybe five minutes.
Things became clearer and it was a | 0:37:55 | 0:38:04 | |
nightmare.
You have very small children, three | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
years old and one-year-old, are they
OK? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
Luckily they are OK. The other 200
children in Eastern Ghouta are not | 0:38:12 | 0:38:19 | |
because they are dead. 1000 people
have died in Eastern Ghouta, more | 0:38:19 | 0:38:25 | |
than 200 of them are children, many
are women, they are not OK. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
As I speak I can hear noises, is
that a bombardment, bombs falling | 0:38:30 | 0:38:36 | |
right now?
Exactly, bombardments, air strikes. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
That is an air strike. They never
stop since the morning. In fact they | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
never stop even at night, for the
last 18 days. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:52 | |
Stay safe. If you have to go at any
point, your safety is far more | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
important.
I want to bring in our other guests. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:01 | |
You have friends in Eastern Ghouta,
are they telling you similar | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
stories?
Very similar. They talk about what | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
we don't see in the media, 400,000
people, roughly the size of | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
Leicester or Coventry, who don't
want to spend their lives in | 0:39:15 | 0:39:22 | |
basements, they want to send their
children to school, have an ordinary | 0:39:22 | 0:39:28 | |
life. But they don't want to be
arrested or killed because they are | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
voicing an opposition point of view.
Let us talk about the significance | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
of this aid getting through and
bombardments as aid goes in. A lot | 0:39:35 | 0:39:42 | |
of aid is not getting in. Do we know
where this aid goes to? | 0:39:42 | 0:39:51 | |
What are you hearing? There was a
convoy of 46 trucks if you days ago | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
and nine were not able to unload
because of the security situation. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:03 | |
They had to put out. They were not
allowed yesterday. Today there was a | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
window where they went in. They are
distributed wherever they can, there | 0:40:08 | 0:40:14 | |
is a distribution point in Duma, and
where there is a big enough storage | 0:40:14 | 0:40:19 | |
space. I have to say, this is not
enough. This is extremely important. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:29 | |
We do not need just one or two
convoys, we need to open | 0:40:29 | 0:40:35 | |
humanitarian corridors, this
population is living under extremely | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
harsh conditions. It should be
normal food is delivered and medical | 0:40:39 | 0:40:48 | |
equipment, not the exception.
Humanitarian corridors are opening | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
but no one is using them.
What are you hearing about the aid | 0:40:50 | 0:40:56 | |
getting into Eastern Ghouta today?
We need to put things into | 0:40:56 | 0:41:01 | |
perspective about aid. There are
400,000 people living in Eastern | 0:41:01 | 0:41:07 | |
Ghouta. The convoy on Monday was
enough for 20 7000. Even this number | 0:41:07 | 0:41:16 | |
was not reached completely because
not everything was delivered. The | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
rest of the convoy getting into day,
the people on the ground, delivery | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
is difficult. They go towards mass
population movements. The aid is | 0:41:24 | 0:41:33 | |
being targeted by air strikes.
Humanitarian workers on the ground | 0:41:33 | 0:41:38 | |
are how to distribute the aid
without putting civilians at risk. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
Do people trust the Syrian
Government when it says there are | 0:41:42 | 0:41:49 | |
humanitarian corridors the people to
leave Eastern Ghouta, or we will | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
allow aid to get in and it is safe
view to get that, do people trust | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
the Syrian Government?
It is exactly the opposite. You can | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
see the result of what is happening
by watching that nobody has ever | 0:42:02 | 0:42:09 | |
left. People are left with two
choices, either being dead under | 0:42:09 | 0:42:15 | |
bombardment, locked in their
shelter, or go out through this | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
so-called humanitarian corridor.
There aren't other two corridors, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:27 | |
and if we can trust the regime, you
would see thousands of people try to | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
get out. In fact, only 500 people to
be honest have got a lot of | 0:42:32 | 0:42:38 | |
Easterner Gunter. Ever since they
have left, no one has heard anything | 0:42:38 | 0:42:45 | |
about them. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
about them. Do you believe the
Syrian regime wants people to leave | 0:42:54 | 0:43:00 | |
eastern hooter? -- eastern hooter?
-- Ghouta. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:10 | |
People should not be forced out of
their land, why should they be asked | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
to leave? Why evacuate an entire
city? It is their right to stay. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:21 | |
Those leaving because they have no
choice, they don't want their | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
children to be killed, it is a
forced displacement. We don't talk | 0:43:25 | 0:43:31 | |
about geopolitics. These people want
a normal life. Not just the Syrian | 0:43:31 | 0:43:37 | |
regime but there is Russia and other
countries involved. There is a clear | 0:43:37 | 0:43:42 | |
bargain here between Turkey and
Russia are where there are huge | 0:43:42 | 0:43:49 | |
operations going on where Turkey is
taking a blind eye. They are going | 0:43:49 | 0:43:56 | |
hand in hand. You have so many
actors in Syria, a multiplicity of | 0:43:56 | 0:44:03 | |
actors, and everyone is allowing the
other to do what it wants so they | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
turn a blind eye so they turn a
blind eye in another corner in | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
Syria. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:20 | |
Syria. This is the disgraceful Bagan
going on. This is teaching the | 0:44:20 | 0:44:26 | |
entire world global security doesn't
work. The Security Council is unable | 0:44:26 | 0:44:33 | |
to provide security, once two
countries are inside Syria, there is | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
no way we can get the country secure
again. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
Give us a sense of what is available
for people inside of Easterner | 0:44:40 | 0:44:48 | |
Gunter when we talk about hospitals,
medical supplies,. -- Ghouta. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:56 | |
The people on the ground paint a
humane picture. There is very little | 0:44:56 | 0:45:04 | |
food left. The few shops that had
stops before the latest offensive | 0:45:04 | 0:45:09 | |
started selling at a very high price
when it is available. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:17 | |
To have something to eat, small
children are relying on plants mixed | 0:45:20 | 0:45:29 | |
with grains because there is no
wheat flour available. We have to | 0:45:29 | 0:45:33 | |
think of this as being on the
outskirts of Damascus, the price of | 0:45:33 | 0:45:39 | |
sugar is ten times higher. People
are going without food. Just one | 0:45:39 | 0:45:48 | |
meal a day where it is available.
Things like meat are a luxury now. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:59 | |
Ahmed, have you ever contemplated
leaving the city? | 0:46:01 | 0:46:07 | |
leaving the city? There is some
misconception about leaving the city | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
when the regime offer it to the
civilians. You would think anybody | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
would think that it is safe and you
could leave the city and come back | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
to it whenever I want. First of all,
if I leave the city I know I will | 0:46:19 | 0:46:26 | |
never come back. We have seen what
happened in the other city who have | 0:46:26 | 0:46:31 | |
been displaced maybe a couple of
years ago, and nobody has ever come | 0:46:31 | 0:46:38 | |
back yet. And it seems nobody will
come back from now on. In many | 0:46:38 | 0:46:50 | |
cities all around Syria this is
happening. As my friend said, it is | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
systematic displacement, enforced
displacement against the UN | 0:46:54 | 0:47:01 | |
constitution. It is against the
humanity values. It is just wrong. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:06 | |
For myself, I know that if I tried
to leave eastern Ghouta, I will be | 0:47:06 | 0:47:14 | |
detained, the same as 400,000
civilians here. The regime may not | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
arrest 400,000 people, but while we
are speaking the regime has | 0:47:19 | 0:47:25 | |
detainees of something between
250,000 and 400,000 people, in the | 0:47:25 | 0:47:35 | |
prisons, which are called
slaughterhouses by many reports, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
including international reports. So
the regime right now is trying to | 0:47:39 | 0:47:45 | |
take revenge on anybody who has ever
said anything about the dictator who | 0:47:45 | 0:47:50 | |
should step down from his position.
Clearly, Ahmed, you do not trust | 0:47:50 | 0:48:00 | |
President Assad. Thank you so much,
all of you, for speaking to us, but | 0:48:00 | 0:48:05 | |
particularly you, Ahmed, keep your
family safe and thank you so much. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
You could hear bombardments in the
background in eastern Ghouta, just | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
behind Ahmed speaking to us. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
Coming up. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
It could hardly be
thought possible given | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
all the rhetoric but there are to be
high level talks between | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
President Trump and Kim Jong-un,
the North Korean leader. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
But how significant is this
and what could be achieved? | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
Amy Winehouse. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:29 | |
David Bowie. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:30 | |
The Arctic Monkeys. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:31 | |
The Clash. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:32 | |
Rihanna. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
These are just some of the many
stars who've appeared on the front | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
cover of the NME magazine
during its 66-year reign. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
Its final edition has
been published today. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
Jamaican rapper and singer
Stefflon says she's honoured | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
to be its last cover star. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:50 | |
There's no reference that
it's the final issue | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
because it went to press on Tuesday
and staff were only told | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
the news on Wednesday. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:56 | |
Bosses say the reason the magazine's
come to an end is because it's "no | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
longer financially viable"
and its team will now focus | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
on the brand's digital platforms. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
Well, joining us now is lead singer
of The Vaccines, Justin Young. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
The Vaccines have
appeared on the front | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
cover of NME many times. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
Also here, former editor
of NME.com, Greg Cochrane. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
And music journalist Laura Snapes. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
Thank you all for coming in this
morning. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:27 | |
Before you were in a band,
what were your thoughts of NME? | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
Did you get hold of it I get excited
by it? When I could. I grew up in | 0:49:30 | 0:49:36 | |
the mill of nowhere with a corner
shop 20 minutes walk away. And I | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
would walk down and there would be
maybe Q magazine, and then once a | 0:49:40 | 0:49:46 | |
month may be a NME. And then when I
got it it became my Bible. It | 0:49:46 | 0:49:51 | |
informed me and educated me not just
in music, but culture and import -- | 0:49:51 | 0:49:56 | |
politics. Incredibly important to
me. I use add that it is going? It | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
is just going digital. -- are you
sad that it is going? It is not | 0:50:00 | 0:50:06 | |
being the same since it went three
and was less focused on music. It is | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
sad. I am a nostalgic person, but
that is what most print press faces | 0:50:11 | 0:50:16 | |
now. I think streaming culture is a
big thing to mention. Music is so | 0:50:16 | 0:50:23 | |
accessible instantly that the public
have become the critical voice in a | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
way that may be NME was 30 years
ago. Would you agree with that? It's | 0:50:28 | 0:50:36 | |
still important to have that middle
person, that voice to rate that | 0:50:36 | 0:50:42 | |
space. Justin is right that there is
an enormous amount of music out | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
there and it's more accessible than
ever. But I still think having a | 0:50:44 | 0:50:49 | |
critical voice and pointing people
in the direction of new music is | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
important which is why there has
been huge success on the digital | 0:50:52 | 0:50:57 | |
side for NME and they are reaching a
greater number of people than ever. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
So just because the magazine is
going it doesn't mean they don't | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
still have an important place in
that arena. They can do it digitally | 0:51:04 | 0:51:10 | |
rather than a magazine? I'm not sure
if they can. The brilliant thing | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
about a magazine which online has
failed to replicate, not just NME, | 0:51:14 | 0:51:20 | |
in the great dales of the NME, it
felt like a clubhouse, there were a | 0:51:20 | 0:51:27 | |
recurring jokes on the artist felt
like a revolving cards -- type of | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
people. The kind of content that the
website publishes is not | 0:51:30 | 0:51:35 | |
commensurate with the era defining
stuff of the past, so I'm not sure | 0:51:35 | 0:51:40 | |
if they can carry it over. But isn't
it just the way we are going now? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:45 | |
Everybody expects to see things on
their phones and tablets and we | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
don't even read books as much any
more. Well, I do. I do as well. I | 0:51:48 | 0:51:54 | |
love a book. But the many people
it's having it there and being | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
accessible. To the credit of the
NME, the final edition is being | 0:51:58 | 0:52:03 | |
printed today but the brand
survives. They have put themselves | 0:52:03 | 0:52:07 | |
in a position where despite the
print product not being part of | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
their offering any more, the office
is still open and it has not | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
disappeared and people are still
working there and that's because | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
they have transitioned to the point
where they've made a successful | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
digital business and that is to
their credit. There are other | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
well-known titles that if they were
to shock to the print offering | 0:52:24 | 0:52:30 | |
tomorrow, that would be the end, so
to their credit they have managed to | 0:52:30 | 0:52:36 | |
travel through those changing times,
if you like. Justin, your band has | 0:52:36 | 0:52:41 | |
been in the NME and on the front
cover. What does it mean as a band | 0:52:41 | 0:52:45 | |
to be in the club that Laura talked
about, that revolving door of | 0:52:45 | 0:52:50 | |
artists? Growing up it was a
tangible mark of success. I remember | 0:52:50 | 0:52:55 | |
being on the cover in January 2011
and it was an incredible moment in | 0:52:55 | 0:53:01 | |
any band's Korea and we were lucky
enough to be on it several times. We | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
were supposed to be on it next week.
No! It's true. They couldn't have | 0:53:05 | 0:53:14 | |
kept it going for one week longer.
But it is an amazing thing. To me, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:19 | |
anyone on the front of the NME was a
rock star and maybe I was able to | 0:53:19 | 0:53:26 | |
say the same about myself. It's an
amazing thing. To your family and | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
friends and people who have
supported you, they see it as a | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
milestone. It's not a pipe dream.
You have made it when you are on the | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
cover. People can sit in their local
corner shop once a month, so yes. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:43 | |
Why do you think it lasted so long?
You are looking at five or six | 0:53:43 | 0:53:47 | |
generations that were with the NME.
What was the staying power? There is | 0:53:47 | 0:53:57 | |
the age-old story that every
generation of reader thinks their | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
generation of bands and writers was
the best era. But I think, for every | 0:54:01 | 0:54:09 | |
generation, it is true that
generation. Admittedly for a | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
shrinking amount of people it
remained a Bastian of taste and a | 0:54:12 | 0:54:18 | |
Bible and it was incredibly
informative and entertaining. I | 0:54:18 | 0:54:22 | |
think because music is such an
important part of peoples make up | 0:54:22 | 0:54:28 | |
and they were identified by the
music they like and I still believe | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
that, NME has been there as a best
mate everyone has taken that to | 0:54:32 | 0:54:40 | |
heart. You have to be 70 years old
to remember a time before it existed | 0:54:40 | 0:54:47 | |
in print, now. That is why people
felt very sentimental about this | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
news today because it is something
that feels very dear to people. I | 0:54:51 | 0:54:57 | |
think there's always been a reason
for it to exist. People have wanted | 0:54:57 | 0:55:01 | |
that kind of relationship with it
and the coverage they provided there | 0:55:01 | 0:55:05 | |
are so many headlines about albums
dying and people not caring about | 0:55:05 | 0:55:10 | |
music any more but I don't think
that's true to any extent. The | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
survival is there because people do
still care. One of your colleagues | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
at the Guardian wrote this.
Regardless of whether you thought | 0:55:17 | 0:55:25 | |
the best days involved punk, Pete
Dougherty, in the end became | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
clueless as to what it was supposed
to be doing or who it was supposed | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
before -- Pete Doherty. I have to
agree with that. Although the free | 0:55:32 | 0:55:37 | |
publication in the last two and a
half years has been a triumph in | 0:55:37 | 0:55:41 | |
terms of publishing because they
make this advertising funded model | 0:55:41 | 0:55:46 | |
when the sales figures were about
13,000 by the end, which is pretty | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
drastic. It has been a publishing
success but I don't think it has had | 0:55:49 | 0:55:54 | |
a clue who was meant before. It was
great when they came back and they | 0:55:54 | 0:56:00 | |
had Rihanna on the cover and we
fought hard to get women and people | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
of colour on the front but we were
told they did not sell. So the | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
revival of the magazine was a chance
to right the wrongs of history and | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
people were excited but the second
cover was Chris Moyle 's, who had no | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
relevance to the audience, the
mission and was not even covered in | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
an interesting way. They asked
questions about feminism and he got | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
off the hook very quickly. And very
quickly you could see the mission | 0:56:20 | 0:56:25 | |
they had being squandered. Justin,
do you think it lost direction? I | 0:56:25 | 0:56:30 | |
think so and I think you got a
conference of answer there. Why is | 0:56:30 | 0:56:36 | |
there a review in publishing
generally that women and people of | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
colour don't sell on the front of
things. I don't understand. I wish I | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
knew. I remember when Madonna was on
the cover of a music magazine | 0:56:43 | 0:56:48 | |
monthly, their worst selling issue
ever. There might be some truth in | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
the fact that magazines are still
bought by men and it might tip | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
slightly in that favour, but I wish
I did know and I wish it wasn't that | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
way. Thank you for coming in and it
was lovely to speak to you today. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:03 | |
Let's get the latest weather update. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:04 | |
Sarah Keith Lucas is here. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:08 | |
Hopefully the snow has gone and we
might have a warm weekend. You never | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
know. How are we looking? | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
I wouldn't describe it as warm, but
it's less cold than it has been. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
Reasonably mild weather on the cards
in the next couple of days and it's | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
quite a chilly start to the
day-to-day but we have got blue | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
skies and sunshine and this is how
things are looking in Northumberland | 0:57:26 | 0:57:31 | |
at the moment. Not sunny everywhere
with some mist and fog patches | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
around and here is a picture sent
round by a weather watcher in | 0:57:35 | 0:57:39 | |
Warwickshire. Pretty misty and murky
and foggy. But the mist and fog is | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
lifting and clearing away. Through
today, staying largely dry, bright | 0:57:43 | 0:57:48 | |
and sunny in northern parts of the
country whereas further south we | 0:57:48 | 0:57:52 | |
have more cloud which brings further
outbreaks of rain which is pushing | 0:57:52 | 0:57:56 | |
into the south-west of England,
clouding across southern England but | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
further north a lot of sunshine for
much of the Midlands, northern | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
England, Northern Ireland and
southern Scotland. For central and | 0:58:03 | 0:58:07 | |
northern Scotland, snow showers that
should peter out over the next few | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
hours. The sunshine should reappear
across Scotland and temperatures | 0:58:10 | 0:58:15 | |
between eight up to 11 degrees. As
we head into the evening hours, the | 0:58:15 | 0:58:20 | |
patchy rain in the South will head
further north, into the Midlands, | 0:58:20 | 0:58:25 | |
Wales and into Northern Ireland as
well. Scotland overnight stays with | 0:58:25 | 0:58:29 | |
a clear and dry condition with the
northern half of Scotland so | 0:58:29 | 0:58:35 | |
temperatures below freezing and we
will see a widespread frost, but | 0:58:35 | 0:58:39 | |
further south we have further cloud,
outbreaks of rain and it's I'll | 0:58:39 | 0:58:44 | |
start to the day. Double figures to
the south-west. How is the weekend | 0:58:44 | 0:58:49 | |
shaping up? We will see outbreaks of
rain at times as things turn milder. | 0:58:49 | 0:58:55 | |
There should be some sunshine on
offer as well. We still have the | 0:58:55 | 0:59:01 | |
cold air holding across Scotland
with the blue colours on the map, | 0:59:01 | 0:59:06 | |
but that is moving in from the
south, so it's milder air spilling | 0:59:06 | 0:59:10 | |
in and it will have worked
northwards across all of the UK. For | 0:59:10 | 0:59:14 | |
Saturday, heavy rain for a time
through central England towards | 0:59:14 | 0:59:18 | |
Northern Ireland and as the rain
pushes north and bumps into the cold | 0:59:18 | 0:59:21 | |
air are likely to see a bit of hill
snow. A couple of centimetres | 0:59:21 | 0:59:27 | |
possible in the Grampians, but low
levels, falling as rain. For England | 0:59:27 | 0:59:32 | |
and Wales return to sunny spells,
still a few showers but look at the | 0:59:32 | 0:59:35 | |
temperatures. We could see 15
degrees or so on Saturday and | 0:59:35 | 0:59:39 | |
potentially the warmest day of the
year so far. Sunday should start | 0:59:39 | 0:59:42 | |
misty and foggy but a lot of dry
weather on the cards. | 0:59:42 | 0:59:47 | |
Hello, it's Friday, it's ten
o'clock, I'm Chloe Tilley. | 0:59:53 | 0:59:55 | |
Our top story. | 0:59:55 | 0:59:57 | |
Donald Trump and North
Korea's Kim Jong-un say | 0:59:57 | 0:59:59 | |
they're going to meet each other. | 0:59:59 | 1:00:00 | |
South Korea described it
as a "milestone for peace". | 1:00:00 | 1:00:04 | |
He expressed his eagerness to meet
President Trump as soon as possible. | 1:00:04 | 1:00:09 | |
President Trump appreciated this and
said he would meet Kim Jong-un by | 1:00:09 | 1:00:18 | |
May two achieve denuclearisation. | 1:00:18 | 1:00:23 | |
Not surprisingly President Trump has
taken to social media, | 1:00:23 | 1:00:26 | |
he's said that great progress had
been made but sanctions will remain | 1:00:26 | 1:00:28 | |
until an agreement is reached. | 1:00:28 | 1:00:33 | |
Ahead of Mother's Day this
Sunday we'll hear stories | 1:00:33 | 1:00:35 | |
of childbirth around the world. | 1:00:35 | 1:00:42 | |
It was always one day in the future.
I went through the two micrograms of | 1:00:42 | 1:00:48 | |
IVF and suffered very early
miscarriages. | 1:00:48 | 1:00:55 | |
We'll hear from that mum
Ellen Shepherd and her daughter | 1:00:55 | 1:00:58 | |
Alice who is now three months
old later in this hour. | 1:00:58 | 1:01:00 | |
And we'll talk to Save the Children
who are calling for action to be | 1:01:00 | 1:01:03 | |
And MPs reject calls to impose
a so-called latte levy | 1:01:06 | 1:01:09 | |
on throwaway coffee cups. | 1:01:09 | 1:01:10 | |
They say it's better for shops | 1:01:10 | 1:01:11 | |
to offer voluntary discounts
to customers bringing | 1:01:11 | 1:01:13 | |
their own cups. | 1:01:13 | 1:01:14 | |
But what do you think? | 1:01:14 | 1:01:15 | |
Get in touch in the usual ways. | 1:01:15 | 1:01:17 | |
Good morning. | 1:01:23 | 1:01:24 | |
It's ten o'clock. | 1:01:24 | 1:01:26 | |
Here's Annita McVeigh
in the BBC Newsroom | 1:01:26 | 1:01:28 | |
with a summary of today's news. | 1:01:28 | 1:01:29 | |
President Trump has
accepted an offer | 1:01:29 | 1:01:32 | |
to meet North Korean leader
Kim Jong-un for talks. | 1:01:32 | 1:01:36 | |
The first ever meeting
between a serving American president | 1:01:36 | 1:01:38 | |
and a North Korean leader
will happen by May. | 1:01:38 | 1:01:41 | |
The shock announcement was made
by senior South Korean officials | 1:01:41 | 1:01:43 | |
in Washington after months
of heightened diplomatic tensions | 1:01:43 | 1:01:45 | |
between the two countries. | 1:01:45 | 1:01:46 | |
Our Beijing correspondent
Steven McDonnell has more. | 1:01:46 | 1:01:54 | |
The response they have had at the
Chinese foreign ministry in Beijing | 1:01:56 | 1:02:01 | |
has been perhaps what you might have
expected. Beijing has after all been | 1:02:01 | 1:02:06 | |
urging Pyongyang and Washington to
sit down and talk for some time and | 1:02:06 | 1:02:10 | |
the news there might now be a
meeting between Kim Jong-un and | 1:02:10 | 1:02:15 | |
Donald Trump was naturally welcomed.
China Public argued it has done more | 1:02:15 | 1:02:20 | |
than any other country to bring
North Korea to the negotiating | 1:02:20 | 1:02:24 | |
table. Apart from voting for
sessions at the UN, as North Korea's | 1:02:24 | 1:02:29 | |
keek trading partner of the blocking
of North Korean textile, seafood, | 1:02:29 | 1:02:37 | |
coal exports, has hit that country's
impoverished economy hard. Behind | 1:02:37 | 1:02:43 | |
closed doors some Chinese diplomats
will be urging caution. Remember | 1:02:43 | 1:02:48 | |
this country hosted the failed six
party talks. At the last minute when | 1:02:48 | 1:02:53 | |
it seemed a deal had been done the
full North Korea to give up its | 1:02:53 | 1:02:59 | |
weapons in exchange for fuel aid,
and American diplomatic recognition, | 1:02:59 | 1:03:04 | |
north Korea pulled out and it
collapsed. | 1:03:04 | 1:03:06 | |
We also asked if China might be
happy to post a meeting between Kim | 1:03:06 | 1:03:13 | |
Jong-un and Donald Trump. The answer
we got was China is doing all it can | 1:03:13 | 1:03:18 | |
to help. The Chinese Government is
saying it feels vindicated today. | 1:03:18 | 1:03:23 | |
Because it sees the Winter Olympics
as a breakthrough and according to | 1:03:23 | 1:03:28 | |
the Chinese Government that
breakthrough was achieved because | 1:03:28 | 1:03:30 | |
there was a suspension of drills and
a suspension of missile tests. | 1:03:30 | 1:03:37 | |
Vindication Beijing says it
suspension or the pension plan. So | 1:03:37 | 1:03:43 | |
China can say it believes, we told
you so, it worked. | 1:03:43 | 1:03:51 | |
Pressure is growing
on counter-terror officers | 1:03:53 | 1:03:55 | |
to identify the source of a nerve
agent used in the attempted | 1:03:55 | 1:03:58 | |
murder of a former Russian
spy and his daughter. | 1:03:58 | 1:04:00 | |
The Home Secretary
Amber Rudd has visited | 1:04:00 | 1:04:02 | |
Salisbury this morning,
where she's been speaking | 1:04:02 | 1:04:03 | |
to police about the case. | 1:04:03 | 1:04:04 | |
Russia's Foreign Minister has
dismissed allegations | 1:04:04 | 1:04:06 | |
that his Government has any link
to the nerve agent attack. | 1:04:06 | 1:04:08 | |
A short while ago, Amber Rudd
was asked about the condition | 1:04:08 | 1:04:11 | |
of Sergei Skripal and his daughter. | 1:04:11 | 1:04:15 | |
Still very serious for the two
people who were the subject of this | 1:04:15 | 1:04:19 | |
outrageous attack. And for the
police officer, I understand it is | 1:04:19 | 1:04:23 | |
still serious although he is
conversing and engaging. | 1:04:23 | 1:04:27 | |
A teenager who attacked six moped
riders with acid in a 90-minute | 1:04:27 | 1:04:30 | |
rampage across London
is being sentenced later. | 1:04:30 | 1:04:32 | |
17-year-old Derryck John
from Croydon admitted targeting | 1:04:32 | 1:04:34 | |
the riders in north and east London
in July last year. | 1:04:34 | 1:04:37 | |
He sprayed them in the face
with a noxious liquid and stole two | 1:04:37 | 1:04:40 | |
mopeds before trying
to take another four. | 1:04:40 | 1:04:42 | |
Police said one attack
had left a rider with | 1:04:42 | 1:04:44 | |
"life-changing injuries". | 1:04:44 | 1:04:49 | |
Earlier on the programme,
we spoke to one of Derryck John's | 1:04:49 | 1:04:52 | |
victims Jabed Hussain
who described his injuries. | 1:04:52 | 1:04:54 | |
I thought I had lost my face anyway. | 1:05:00 | 1:05:04 | |
The less I saw of my
face in the mirror. | 1:05:04 | 1:05:06 | |
I thought I had lost my face. | 1:05:06 | 1:05:08 | |
I thought I would never
get my face back. | 1:05:08 | 1:05:10 | |
Everyone was saying, you are OK. | 1:05:10 | 1:05:12 | |
I thought they were
trying to make me happy. | 1:05:12 | 1:05:20 | |
But when I saw my face,
then I realised, and I saw the other | 1:05:21 | 1:05:24 | |
guy was in hospital,
with the same issues, | 1:05:24 | 1:05:26 | |
and I am better than him. | 1:05:26 | 1:05:34 | |
A convoy has now arrived in Eastern
Ghouta delivering aid. | 1:05:36 | 1:05:44 | |
NHS employers and health unions
are understood to be close | 1:05:44 | 1:05:47 | |
to agreeing a three year pay deal
for hundreds of thousands | 1:05:47 | 1:05:49 | |
of staff in England. | 1:05:49 | 1:05:50 | |
The government has already said it
will abolish the one | 1:05:50 | 1:05:53 | |
per cent pay cap on public sector
pay and the Chancellor has indicated | 1:05:53 | 1:05:56 | |
he will provide extra funding
to meet the higher costs. | 1:05:56 | 1:05:59 | |
The United States will
impose tariffs on imports | 1:05:59 | 1:06:01 | |
of aluminium and steel. | 1:06:01 | 1:06:02 | |
President Trump signed
off on the move | 1:06:02 | 1:06:03 | |
at the White House late yesterday. | 1:06:03 | 1:06:05 | |
It's sparked fears
of a global trade war. | 1:06:05 | 1:06:08 | |
The European Union is
considering retaliating | 1:06:08 | 1:06:13 | |
with charges on US-made jeans,
motorbikes, bourbon and oranges. | 1:06:13 | 1:06:18 | |
That's a summary of
the latest BBC News. | 1:06:18 | 1:06:20 | |
More at 10.30. | 1:06:20 | 1:06:26 | |
We were talking about the end of
NME, going into digital format. | 1:06:26 | 1:06:31 | |
Doris says she remembers the NME and
radio Luxembourg as being access to | 1:06:31 | 1:06:40 | |
so much music. The annual concerts
were brilliant and saw the | 1:06:40 | 1:06:44 | |
introduction of new stars and
established groups. I understand we | 1:06:44 | 1:06:48 | |
use different methods but what a
shame. | 1:06:48 | 1:06:53 | |
And another, sad but inevitable, and
any will live in digital form. The | 1:06:53 | 1:07:00 | |
magazine is a business and had to
follow business rules. | 1:07:00 | 1:07:04 | |
Your thoughts are welcome on that
and any story we are talking about. | 1:07:04 | 1:07:07 | |
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Here's some sport now. | 1:07:13 | 1:07:15 | |
From 11 o'clock this morning
the opening ceremony | 1:07:15 | 1:07:17 | |
of the Winter Paralympics will mark | 1:07:17 | 1:07:18 | |
the start of the biggest Games yet
with well over 500 athletes | 1:07:18 | 1:07:21 | |
competing in six disciplines
from 48 countries. | 1:07:21 | 1:07:26 | |
Owen Pick will lead Paralympics
GB out as flagbearer. | 1:07:26 | 1:07:29 | |
He's at his first Games having
lost a leg while serving | 1:07:29 | 1:07:32 | |
for the British Army
in Afghanistan eight years ago. | 1:07:32 | 1:07:38 | |
Arsenal's victory in
the Europa League last night | 1:07:38 | 1:07:44 | |
helped end their worst run
since 2002 and ease the pressure | 1:07:44 | 1:07:47 | |
on manager Arsene Wenger. | 1:07:47 | 1:07:48 | |
His side went to Italy
and they came back | 1:07:48 | 1:07:50 | |
with a 2-0 victory. | 1:07:50 | 1:07:51 | |
Henrik Mkhitaryan scored his first | 1:07:51 | 1:07:52 | |
goal for the club and Aaron
Ramsey added another | 1:07:52 | 1:07:55 | |
at the San Siro. | 1:07:55 | 1:07:56 | |
The second leg is at
the Emirates next Thursday. | 1:07:56 | 1:08:04 | |
Look, we have won a game, we are not
qualified, | 1:08:07 | 1:08:17 | |
qualified, so we have raised belief
in the team. When you lose three in | 1:08:17 | 1:08:21 | |
six days it is always very
difficult. | 1:08:21 | 1:08:25 | |
We want to keep our focus and finish
the job next week, that is the | 1:08:25 | 1:08:29 | |
target. | 1:08:29 | 1:08:30 | |
It's a huge weekend
in the Six Nations | 1:08:30 | 1:08:34 | |
with plenty of permutations,
but Ireland could be | 1:08:34 | 1:08:36 | |
crowned champions. | 1:08:36 | 1:08:38 | |
They go into their match
with Scotland in Dublin | 1:08:38 | 1:08:42 | |
top of the table and with three wins
from three victory would keep them | 1:08:42 | 1:08:45 | |
on course for a first
Grand Slam in nine years. | 1:08:45 | 1:08:48 | |
But remember,
Scotland showed against England that | 1:08:48 | 1:08:49 | |
they're no pushovers. | 1:08:49 | 1:08:53 | |
It is a superb rugby star that they
play which makes them very potent on | 1:08:53 | 1:08:58 | |
the counter attack, attacking from
loose ball, very I supposed | 1:08:58 | 1:09:04 | |
dangerous in those wider channels. | 1:09:04 | 1:09:07 | |
England are away in France
and they need to match Ireland's | 1:09:07 | 1:09:09 | |
result to keep alive their hopes
of a third straight title. | 1:09:09 | 1:09:12 | |
Head coach Eddie Jones
has named Owen Farrell | 1:09:12 | 1:09:14 | |
as captain for the first time,
with Dylan Hartley out injured. | 1:09:14 | 1:09:18 | |
I think these weeks when you're
coming back from a loss of the week | 1:09:18 | 1:09:24 | |
you live for, they really test your
metal, the metal of the coaches, | 1:09:24 | 1:09:31 | |
players, to keep focus and generate
that energy and zest and brutality | 1:09:31 | 1:09:37 | |
that you need for the next game. | 1:09:37 | 1:09:39 | |
One of the greatest
sports people of all time | 1:09:39 | 1:09:41 | |
Serena Williams won her first
singles match on the WTA Tour | 1:09:41 | 1:09:43 | |
for nearly 14 months as she returned
after the birth of her child. | 1:09:43 | 1:09:49 | |
At 36, and having suffered
what she called "near fatal" health | 1:09:49 | 1:09:52 | |
complications after giving birth
last September she reached | 1:09:52 | 1:09:54 | |
the second round at Indian Wells
with a straight sets victory over | 1:09:54 | 1:09:57 | |
Kazakhstan's Zarina Diyas. | 1:09:57 | 1:09:58 | |
Afterwards, Williams said
she was "a little rusty". | 1:09:58 | 1:10:06 | |
I almost wanted to cry because I
missed my daughter I was like, oh, | 1:10:06 | 1:10:12 | |
but I pulled myself together,
Serena, you have got to do this. It | 1:10:12 | 1:10:16 | |
was good, I was really happy to be
out there and just to be able to | 1:10:16 | 1:10:21 | |
play tennis again. | 1:10:21 | 1:10:22 | |
But Britain's Heather Watson | 1:10:22 | 1:10:23 | |
is out at Indian Wells. | 1:10:23 | 1:10:24 | |
She just can't beat
Victoria Azarenka. | 1:10:24 | 1:10:25 | |
this is the sixth time they've met
and the six time Watson has lost. | 1:10:25 | 1:10:33 | |
That is all the sport for now. | 1:10:35 | 1:10:38 | |
President Trump once described
North Korea as "the last | 1:10:38 | 1:10:40 | |
place on Earth" he would want to go. | 1:10:40 | 1:10:42 | |
And only months ago
he called the leader | 1:10:42 | 1:10:45 | |
of the country "rocket man"
because of his nuclear missile tests | 1:10:45 | 1:10:48 | |
and threatened to unleash
"fire and fury" on him. | 1:10:48 | 1:10:50 | |
But now, in a surprise move,
Donald Trump has agreed | 1:10:50 | 1:10:53 | |
to an invitation to meet Kim
Jong-un. | 1:10:53 | 1:10:55 | |
It will be the first time a US
President has ever met | 1:10:55 | 1:10:58 | |
a North Korean leader
and is being described as one | 1:10:58 | 1:11:01 | |
of the biggest gambles
of Donald Trump's presidency. | 1:11:01 | 1:11:04 | |
The announcement about the meeting
was made by Chung Eiu-Yong | 1:11:04 | 1:11:06 | |
the head of a South Korean
delegation that met both leaders. | 1:11:06 | 1:11:12 | |
I told President Trump that in our
meeting the North Korean leader said | 1:11:12 | 1:11:20 | |
he is committed to denuclearisation,
pledging that North Korea would | 1:11:20 | 1:11:30 | |
refrain from any further nuclear
missile tests. He understands that | 1:11:30 | 1:11:35 | |
the routine joint military exercises
against the Republic of Korea and | 1:11:35 | 1:11:41 | |
the United States must continue, and
he expressed his eagerness to meet | 1:11:41 | 1:11:47 | |
President Trump as soon as possible.
President Trump appreciated the | 1:11:47 | 1:11:55 | |
briefing and said he would meet Kim
Jong-un by May to achieve prominent | 1:11:55 | 1:12:02 | |
denuclearisation. The Republic of
Korea along with the United States, | 1:12:02 | 1:12:07 | |
Japan and our many partners around
the world remain fully and | 1:12:07 | 1:12:13 | |
resolutely committed to the complete
denuclearisation of the Korean | 1:12:13 | 1:12:18 | |
peninsular, along with President
Trump, we are optimistic about | 1:12:18 | 1:12:23 | |
continuing a diplomatic process to
test the possibility of a peaceful | 1:12:23 | 1:12:28 | |
resolution. | 1:12:28 | 1:12:30 | |
Well, it's an extraordinary overture
after months of trading | 1:12:30 | 1:12:33 | |
insults but can the two leaders
change from enemies to frenemies? | 1:12:33 | 1:12:40 | |
They will be met with Fire And Fury,
like the world has never seen. | 1:12:40 | 1:12:52 | |
Rocket man is on a suicide mission
for himself, and for his regime. | 1:12:59 | 1:13:12 | |
He is a sick puppy. | 1:13:22 | 1:13:29 | |
President Trump said he would meet
Kim Jong-un by May to achieve | 1:14:23 | 1:14:28 | |
prominent denuclearisation. | 1:14:28 | 1:14:31 | |
With me are Dr Brian Klaas,
a fellow at the London School | 1:14:40 | 1:14:43 | |
of Economics who has worked
on US political campaigns. | 1:14:43 | 1:14:45 | |
Charlie Wolf, he's a political
commentator and former | 1:14:45 | 1:14:47 | |
communications director
of Republicans Abroad UK. | 1:14:47 | 1:14:53 | |
Thank you for coming in. This is so
significant and historic and yet we | 1:14:54 | 1:15:00 | |
don't really know much about it?
We know they will properly meet | 1:15:00 | 1:15:05 | |
sometime before Bay. One of the
worries I have, it is a historic | 1:15:05 | 1:15:12 | |
opportunity, but how the
coordination has not been coming | 1:15:12 | 1:15:16 | |
between the Trump administration and
State Department. Rex Tillerson a | 1:15:16 | 1:15:21 | |
few hours downplayed the possibility
of any negotiations. If you hours | 1:15:21 | 1:15:27 | |
later the announcement they would
meet head-to-head. | 1:15:27 | 1:15:32 | |
Isn't that just the way he runs the
White House? This is why the rubber | 1:15:32 | 1:15:38 | |
hits the road, it is a major gamble.
We are banking on someone who is not | 1:15:38 | 1:15:43 | |
a details person. He has mistaken in
the past the past three leaders of | 1:15:43 | 1:15:52 | |
North Korea as the same | 1:15:52 | 1:15:53 | |
It is a problem that | 1:15:59 | 1:16:00 | |
It is a problem that needs to get
solved, but North Korea has a | 1:16:00 | 1:16:03 | |
history of using negotiations to buy
time and we hope that the US has | 1:16:03 | 1:16:08 | |
ample time to prepare and
coordinating come to a peaceful | 1:16:08 | 1:16:11 | |
solution that ends up resolving the
crisis. We have been played several | 1:16:11 | 1:16:16 | |
times under George Bush and Clinton
and even back to Carter. The Kim | 1:16:16 | 1:16:22 | |
family are good falling, but this
time you have a man in the White | 1:16:22 | 1:16:29 | |
House who is a deal-maker and part
of being a deal-maker is knowing not | 1:16:29 | 1:16:32 | |
to take one when it is not right. So
Barack Obama, his problem was that | 1:16:32 | 1:16:37 | |
there had to be a deal and he would
give away the farm just to get the | 1:16:37 | 1:16:41 | |
deal and get nothing in return. I
think Donald Trump will take a bit | 1:16:41 | 1:16:45 | |
more of a different approach. He is
a hard guy. The whole theory of | 1:16:45 | 1:16:50 | |
calling him rocket man and this fire
and Furyk, that is projecting power | 1:16:50 | 1:16:54 | |
and that is what I think brought
into the table. He understands that | 1:16:54 | 1:16:58 | |
need to carry a big stick. Walk
softly and carry a big stick. So | 1:16:58 | 1:17:04 | |
President Trump has played a
blinder, and that is what has forced | 1:17:04 | 1:17:08 | |
him to the table. It's played a
major part. Do you believe that? I | 1:17:08 | 1:17:13 | |
don't, because in the process, we
have alienated several allies. South | 1:17:13 | 1:17:18 | |
Korea and Japan are on different
pages to the US and we need to | 1:17:18 | 1:17:23 | |
coordinate with them. So there is a
risk by going into bilateral talks | 1:17:23 | 1:17:27 | |
we have Donald Trump in a room
making a deal that South Korea and | 1:17:27 | 1:17:31 | |
Japan cannot live will and that is a
real risk. Thereon many countries -- | 1:17:31 | 1:17:38 | |
there are many countries at stake,
it's not just North Korea, it is the | 1:17:38 | 1:17:42 | |
key allies in the region, and China
needs to be on board with the | 1:17:42 | 1:17:45 | |
decision, so you have the risk that
the bilateral talks are a concession | 1:17:45 | 1:17:50 | |
to the regime of Kim and there might
be a positive result, but they are | 1:17:50 | 1:17:56 | |
extremely risky. I hope the State
Department works closely with Trump | 1:17:56 | 1:17:59 | |
to evolve a clear plan and not just
wing it. What Trump did yesterday | 1:17:59 | 1:18:04 | |
was to show that he could make
things up as he goes along is and | 1:18:04 | 1:18:07 | |
I'm extremely worried about that.
That is the way he's run the | 1:18:07 | 1:18:11 | |
presidency so far. It doesn't seem
to work them. It's not the norm -- | 1:18:11 | 1:18:16 | |
it does seem to work for him.
Academics are driven crazy and we | 1:18:16 | 1:18:24 | |
might not understand it but it does
seem to work. We just got this from | 1:18:24 | 1:18:30 | |
the International atomic agency
saying that they are closely | 1:18:30 | 1:18:34 | |
following developments related to
the nuclear programme of North Korea | 1:18:34 | 1:18:37 | |
and we hope these development will
lead to concrete progress regarding | 1:18:37 | 1:18:41 | |
the nuclear issue. We continue to
monitor the North Korea nuclear | 1:18:41 | 1:18:46 | |
programme, including the use of
satellite imagery. We stand ready to | 1:18:46 | 1:18:50 | |
contribute to its peaceful
resolution by resuming our | 1:18:50 | 1:18:53 | |
verification activities in the
country once the political agreement | 1:18:53 | 1:18:56 | |
is reached amongst the countries
concerned. I want to just break down | 1:18:56 | 1:19:04 | |
the elements of the deal and it
appears that North Korea has agreed | 1:19:04 | 1:19:08 | |
to this in order to have talks. One
of the significant things it is. Kim | 1:19:08 | 1:19:14 | |
Jong-un says a commitment to
denuclearisation which is clearly | 1:19:14 | 1:19:17 | |
important but he also says he
understands that the US and South | 1:19:17 | 1:19:21 | |
Korean military drills must
continue, the drills that happen | 1:19:21 | 1:19:24 | |
once a year. It is a huge show of
strength. Very close to North Korea | 1:19:24 | 1:19:28 | |
and for so long they have been very
angry at this and think it is | 1:19:28 | 1:19:34 | |
provocation. That is a pretty
significant step. Brian will notice | 1:19:34 | 1:19:41 | |
that the US has not dropped
sanctions and the other punishments | 1:19:41 | 1:19:46 | |
they have had going on the regime.
He is not just giving in. He still | 1:19:46 | 1:19:50 | |
has to learn of this. The
denuclearisation is the goal and | 1:19:50 | 1:19:55 | |
it's the goal that is broadly
fantasy because the odds that he | 1:19:55 | 1:19:58 | |
will give up nuclear weapons is
virtually zero. Putting the talks as | 1:19:58 | 1:20:05 | |
a gambit to denuclearisation is an
ambitious goal but it is one that | 1:20:05 | 1:20:09 | |
could do it if that is the only
goal, so I don't think the freezing | 1:20:09 | 1:20:13 | |
of the testing is a massive
concession because the dynasty has | 1:20:13 | 1:20:17 | |
done this multiple times on what
they've done during this freeze | 1:20:17 | 1:20:20 | |
period is do research, further the
programme and come at the talks with | 1:20:20 | 1:20:24 | |
nothing changing, but the nuclear
development is advanced. The real | 1:20:24 | 1:20:30 | |
risk is that the US is played
without getting concessions. All of | 1:20:30 | 1:20:34 | |
us hope this time is different and
it is the first time a US president | 1:20:34 | 1:20:38 | |
is involving 121 talks and we have
our fingers crossed but it's a | 1:20:38 | 1:20:42 | |
question of whether this ends up
coming to fruition in a positive | 1:20:42 | 1:20:45 | |
way. What will North Korea want in
return? They won't give everything | 1:20:45 | 1:20:50 | |
up. We have no idea. Generally in
the past it has been wheat, food, | 1:20:50 | 1:20:55 | |
hard cash but they separated dealing
with North Korea and Iran, because | 1:20:55 | 1:21:03 | |
Iran never knew what they wanted. It
is a Marxist government with people | 1:21:03 | 1:21:08 | |
starving so he's holding a nuclear
pistol to our heads. Interesting to | 1:21:08 | 1:21:15 | |
know if they will shake hands and I
think people will expect that. Thank | 1:21:15 | 1:21:19 | |
you both for coming in. Still to
come, the government has failed to | 1:21:19 | 1:21:28 | |
back a latte levy on coffee cups.
Get in touch in the usual way. | 1:21:28 | 1:21:37 | |
The Home Secretary,
Amber Rudd has just visited | 1:21:37 | 1:21:39 | |
the scene of the attack on a former
Russian spy in Salisbury and praised | 1:21:39 | 1:21:42 | |
the police for their response. | 1:21:42 | 1:21:43 | |
Sergei Skripal and his daughter,
Yulia, have been in hospital | 1:21:43 | 1:21:46 | |
since they were found unconscious
on a bench on Sunday. | 1:21:46 | 1:21:48 | |
Officials say they were
poisoned by a nerve agent. | 1:21:48 | 1:21:50 | |
Amber Rudd gave this update
in the last half an hour. | 1:21:50 | 1:21:53 | |
I understand people's curiosity
about all those questions and | 1:21:53 | 1:21:56 | |
wanting to have answers and there
will be a time to have those | 1:21:56 | 1:22:00 | |
answers. But the best way to get to
them is to make sure we give the | 1:22:00 | 1:22:04 | |
police the space that they need to
really go through the area carefully | 1:22:04 | 1:22:09 | |
to do their investigation and to
make sure they have all the support | 1:22:09 | 1:22:13 | |
they need in order to get that. The
reason many people have those | 1:22:13 | 1:22:18 | |
questions as they will be concerned
about safety. This is somebody | 1:22:18 | 1:22:21 | |
potentially walking around Britain
with a chemical weapon. It's not | 1:22:21 | 1:22:25 | |
just curiosity, it's a concern over
safety. It is exactly that concern | 1:22:25 | 1:22:29 | |
about safety which is why we need
all the information we can from this | 1:22:29 | 1:22:33 | |
incident in order to make everybody
say and we have to give the police | 1:22:33 | 1:22:40 | |
all the space they need in order to
collect all the information to be | 1:22:40 | 1:22:48 | |
absolutely clear that there is no
further risk. We need to make sure | 1:22:48 | 1:22:51 | |
they can do the investigation and
collected so it can be confirmed. | 1:22:51 | 1:22:57 | |
What is the current range of options
once it has the facts here? At the | 1:22:57 | 1:23:03 | |
moment the priority will be the
incident, which is why I'm in | 1:23:03 | 1:23:06 | |
Salisbury today to make sure that
everybody is protected around here | 1:23:06 | 1:23:11 | |
and making sure the emergency
services have had the support that | 1:23:11 | 1:23:14 | |
they need and will continue to get
and it is great to hear that that is | 1:23:14 | 1:23:18 | |
the case. In terms of further
options, that will have to wait | 1:23:18 | 1:23:22 | |
until we are absolutely clear what
the consequences could be and what | 1:23:22 | 1:23:27 | |
the actual source of this nerve
agent has been. | 1:23:27 | 1:23:31 | |
So how have people living
in Salisbury reacted to this attack | 1:23:31 | 1:23:34 | |
in the middle of their city? | 1:23:34 | 1:23:35 | |
Let's speak now to John Glen,
the Conservative MP for Salisbury. | 1:23:35 | 1:23:42 | |
We hope in a minute to speak to a
former member of Greater Manchester | 1:23:42 | 1:23:46 | |
Police but we're struggling to
connect right now. And we are | 1:23:46 | 1:23:49 | |
speaking to Pat | 1:23:49 | 1:23:55 | |
speaking to Pat Sessions -- | 1:23:55 | 1:23:55 | |
Also joining us is Pat
Sissons, a radio station | 1:23:55 | 1:23:57 | |
journalist who has been covering
the updates in story. | 1:23:57 | 1:23:59 | |
And Anthony Davies
who owns a coffee shop | 1:23:59 | 1:24:01 | |
near to where the incident happened. | 1:24:01 | 1:24:05 | |
John, you have been out speaking to
the constituents. Is there a sense | 1:24:05 | 1:24:08 | |
of worry, maybe panic in Salisbury
about what has happened and the | 1:24:08 | 1:24:14 | |
continued police activity there? I
think people have seen what has | 1:24:14 | 1:24:21 | |
happened and as the week has
progressed people have been | 1:24:21 | 1:24:25 | |
reassured by the statement from the
Chief Medical Officer and the words | 1:24:25 | 1:24:29 | |
of the Home Secretary. She was able
to visit the crime scene, Amber | 1:24:29 | 1:24:37 | |
Rudd, and go to the hospital. People
understand it's an exceptional event | 1:24:37 | 1:24:44 | |
and were trying to work out what
happened and why and how, but I | 1:24:44 | 1:24:48 | |
think people are reassured by what
they have heard and I don't see on | 1:24:48 | 1:24:53 | |
the streets of Salisbury any
widespread panic, but they do want | 1:24:53 | 1:24:56 | |
to know what happened. I know your
copy shop is very close to where | 1:24:56 | 1:25:03 | |
this happened. You are open now,
presumably, so what are people | 1:25:03 | 1:25:07 | |
saying as they come in and get
copied and have a chat. Everyone is | 1:25:07 | 1:25:12 | |
generally interested in what is
going on and they want answers, but | 1:25:12 | 1:25:18 | |
as John correctly said, there is no
major panic, it's more interest and | 1:25:18 | 1:25:22 | |
intrigue and more concerned for the
well-being of the victims and | 1:25:22 | 1:25:28 | |
obviously the policeman. But also to
try and understand what is going on | 1:25:28 | 1:25:33 | |
and to let the police get on and do
the job and let them understand what | 1:25:33 | 1:25:38 | |
has happened so we can get this
result. There is certainly no panic | 1:25:38 | 1:25:42 | |
or major concern will stop its more
intrigue and interest and concern | 1:25:42 | 1:25:49 | |
regarding the people who are being
targeted very badly by this. | 1:25:49 | 1:25:57 | |
Anthony, I could see you nodding
away. Is that the sense you are | 1:25:57 | 1:26:03 | |
getting as you speak to people and
follow the story. When it was | 1:26:03 | 1:26:10 | |
revealed one of the policeman had
been hospitalised, that is where the | 1:26:10 | 1:26:15 | |
focus came. There hasn't been panic
but when you see people in full | 1:26:15 | 1:26:22 | |
asthmatics walking through an area
you know | 1:26:22 | 1:26:28 | |
you know where all, that happens so
suddenly and everybody was so | 1:26:30 | 1:26:33 | |
bewildered that once it was known,
and Salisbury is a small city, and I | 1:26:33 | 1:26:39 | |
would say everybody knows everyone
but friends of friends will know | 1:26:39 | 1:26:41 | |
someone involved, and for a serving
police officer to be involved, that | 1:26:41 | 1:26:46 | |
is the focus of concern a lot of the
time. Do people feel that they are | 1:26:46 | 1:26:54 | |
getting enough information? We are
told that the government knows what | 1:26:54 | 1:26:56 | |
the nerve agent is but they are not
releasing that right now. Our people | 1:26:56 | 1:27:01 | |
satisfied that this is being handled
in a correct way? I certainly am. I | 1:27:01 | 1:27:07 | |
think it comes back to the fact that
the police are doing everything they | 1:27:07 | 1:27:11 | |
can. We know they are trying to do
it in the right way and there is a | 1:27:11 | 1:27:17 | |
right way and wrong way to do it.
There's no point in everybody | 1:27:17 | 1:27:21 | |
jumping to conclusions. The worst
thing anybody can do is jump to | 1:27:21 | 1:27:25 | |
conclusions and start pointing
fingers, has already happened. The | 1:27:25 | 1:27:28 | |
only thing from my point of view is
that the police do what they do best | 1:27:28 | 1:27:33 | |
and that's the only thing we can ask
for. I know, John Glenn, you are on | 1:27:33 | 1:27:39 | |
the Home Secretary earlier this
morning -- you were with the Home | 1:27:39 | 1:27:45 | |
Secretary on the visit. Is it right
that the information is not being | 1:27:45 | 1:27:48 | |
released to the public to know what
the nerve agent was? I cannot see | 1:27:48 | 1:27:54 | |
the useful mass of knowing what the
agent is at the moment. The Home | 1:27:54 | 1:27:59 | |
Secretary is well placed to
understand the implications of | 1:27:59 | 1:28:02 | |
telling everyone that -- I cannot
see what the usefulness. She is | 1:28:02 | 1:28:08 | |
being advised by special officers
from the Met police working with | 1:28:08 | 1:28:11 | |
Wiltshire officers to undertake the
investigation and we should rely on | 1:28:11 | 1:28:16 | |
their judgment as they advise us on
what is appropriate to know. But we | 1:28:16 | 1:28:20 | |
do know it's a serious incident.
It's essentially a silent | 1:28:20 | 1:28:25 | |
assassination on the attempt -- an
attempt on the streets of Salisbury, | 1:28:25 | 1:28:32 | |
and police officers have been
injured in the course of doing their | 1:28:32 | 1:28:34 | |
duty. We know the basic outline of
what has happened and the details | 1:28:34 | 1:28:39 | |
will emerge when it's appropriate
and we need to know. Do you worry | 1:28:39 | 1:28:44 | |
that trade might be affected? People
see Salisbury on the news and lots | 1:28:44 | 1:28:48 | |
of tourists go there. Is that a
concern? Yes, in the long term it | 1:28:48 | 1:28:53 | |
is. Salisbury is a small city which
relies heavily on tourism and it has | 1:28:53 | 1:28:59 | |
been noticeably quieter but that is
just a symptom of what has been | 1:28:59 | 1:29:05 | |
going on as everyone has been
keeping out of the way of letting | 1:29:05 | 1:29:08 | |
the police do what they do.
Ultimately there are businesses that | 1:29:08 | 1:29:12 | |
are still close in the immediate
vicinity of where this took place | 1:29:12 | 1:29:15 | |
and they will need to be looked
after and make sure they are OK. | 1:29:15 | 1:29:22 | |
Long-term, hopefully this won't have
a negative effect on the city and | 1:29:22 | 1:29:25 | |
the businesses. I don't think it
will long-term. These things happen | 1:29:25 | 1:29:30 | |
all around the world but life goes
on. There will always be people who | 1:29:30 | 1:29:37 | |
do certain things like this and we
just get on with it and deal with it | 1:29:37 | 1:29:41 | |
and we can only do what we can do
best. You say quieter, but Pat, the | 1:29:41 | 1:29:47 | |
world media has descended on
Salisbury, and I wonder if you're | 1:29:47 | 1:29:51 | |
getting a sense that they are
getting fed up with that attention | 1:29:51 | 1:29:54 | |
as it goes on and the sheer number
of people reporting? Understandably | 1:29:54 | 1:29:59 | |
there was a lot of excitement at
first when you see famous faces from | 1:29:59 | 1:30:03 | |
the TV camped out on traffic islands
in the market in Salisbury with | 1:30:03 | 1:30:07 | |
people trying to put it on
Instagram, but as time goes on, you | 1:30:07 | 1:30:11 | |
might see that because the city is
trying to get on with day to day | 1:30:11 | 1:30:15 | |
life unlike Anthony says, it will
spring back, but there is concern | 1:30:15 | 1:30:18 | |
that the message is going out that
the shops are shot and we got a | 1:30:18 | 1:30:23 | |
message from one of the other
businesses in the shopping centre | 1:30:23 | 1:30:26 | |
that is part of the police called in
-- police called in, saying they | 1:30:26 | 1:30:30 | |
were three-day shot because of the
end of the last week with the snow, | 1:30:30 | 1:30:36 | |
so the continued media focus might
be fuelling that a bit. Salisbury | 1:30:36 | 1:30:39 | |
businesses want people to know they
are open. | 1:30:39 | 1:30:41 | |
do you get a sense people are
getting annoyed with the media | 1:30:45 | 1:30:50 | |
traipsing around?
A little bit. There are a lot of | 1:30:50 | 1:30:55 | |
people taking photos. Again,
unfortunately, that is a symptom of | 1:30:55 | 1:31:01 | |
the situation. It is not too bad at
the moment. If it carries on, the | 1:31:01 | 1:31:08 | |
wrong message gets out, then the
annoyance factor will go up and we | 1:31:08 | 1:31:16 | |
will get frustrated about dozens of
photographers standing around | 1:31:16 | 1:31:20 | |
everywhere.
I am pleased to say we can bring in | 1:31:20 | 1:31:28 | |
Martin, a former greater Manchester
Superintendent, a friend of Nick | 1:31:28 | 1:31:32 | |
Bailey, the police officer who was
injured. | 1:31:32 | 1:31:38 | |
injured. First of all, when you
heard yesterday Nick Bailey was the | 1:31:38 | 1:31:42 | |
police Sergeant being treated in
hospital, did it surprise you | 1:31:42 | 1:31:46 | |
knowing the man that he rushed to
help out straightaway? | 1:31:46 | 1:31:50 | |
It didn't surprise me at all,
knowing Nick, and I have known him | 1:31:50 | 1:31:57 | |
for the last three years in
Wiltshire Police, I found him | 1:31:57 | 1:32:04 | |
absolutely a leader, someone who
will take the lead and put the | 1:32:04 | 1:32:08 | |
public first. In evidence we have
done, work with Nick, it has been | 1:32:08 | 1:32:13 | |
about putting the public first. It
came as no surprise to find he was | 1:32:13 | 1:32:18 | |
involved in this.
As a police officer confronted with | 1:32:18 | 1:32:22 | |
a situation where you cannot clearly
know all of the facts as you appear | 1:32:22 | 1:32:27 | |
on scene, what goes through your
mind? Do you worry, get concerned, | 1:32:27 | 1:32:32 | |
or is it professional charge into
help? | 1:32:32 | 1:32:35 | |
It is a mixture of both. You do
worry. Quite often you will get a | 1:32:35 | 1:32:42 | |
phrase through your head saying,
this will hurt. By the same token, | 1:32:42 | 1:32:46 | |
you move forward and rush into
danger. If you look at London | 1:32:46 | 1:32:53 | |
bridge, Borough market, Westminster,
officers attending burglaries, there | 1:32:53 | 1:33:00 | |
is always a risk, always fear, but
you always go forward and put the | 1:33:00 | 1:33:04 | |
risk at the back of your mind
because your job, first of all, is | 1:33:04 | 1:33:09 | |
to keep yourself safe but to look
after members of the public. | 1:33:09 | 1:33:13 | |
The BBC is getting reports Sergei
Skripal may have been poisoned at | 1:33:13 | 1:33:19 | |
his home, is that something you have
heard? | 1:33:19 | 1:33:23 | |
I have only heard it on media
outlets this morning, I am hearing | 1:33:23 | 1:33:28 | |
exactly the same as everyone else, I
have no access to any other | 1:33:28 | 1:33:33 | |
information at this moment.
Thank you all so much for speaking | 1:33:33 | 1:33:36 | |
to us this morning, I am grateful
for your time. | 1:33:36 | 1:33:39 | |
Still to come. | 1:33:39 | 1:33:40 | |
Ahead of Mother's Day this Sunday,
we will be taking a closer look | 1:33:40 | 1:33:43 | |
at stories of childbirth
across the globe. | 1:33:43 | 1:33:46 | |
Calls to impose a so-called
latte levy on throwaway | 1:33:46 | 1:33:48 | |
coffee cups have been rejected. | 1:33:48 | 1:33:51 | |
Do you think it is better
for customers to bring their own | 1:33:51 | 1:33:54 | |
coffee cups along with them? | 1:33:54 | 1:33:55 | |
We'll be discussing this soon. | 1:33:55 | 1:33:58 | |
It's Mother's Day on Sunday. | 1:34:10 | 1:34:15 | |
have followed five different mums
from Kenya, Romania, Guatemala, | 1:34:15 | 1:34:21 | |
Nepal and the UK and captured key
moments of childbirth. | 1:34:21 | 1:34:24 | |
Each of the mothers gave birth
successfully but their stories | 1:34:24 | 1:34:29 | |
are a moving reminder of how
different things can be when mothers | 1:34:29 | 1:34:32 | |
are forced to give birth alone. | 1:34:32 | 1:34:33 | |
The charity is calling
on all governments across the world | 1:34:33 | 1:34:37 | |
to ensure that by 2030 everyone has
universal access to | 1:34:37 | 1:34:38 | |
essential health services. | 1:34:38 | 1:34:43 | |
Ellen Shepherd is a mother
from the UK, and was captured | 1:34:43 | 1:34:46 | |
on film giving birth to baby Alice. | 1:34:46 | 1:34:50 | |
We'll speak to Ellen in a moment. | 1:34:50 | 1:34:53 | |
First, let's watch the journey
of those five mothers, | 1:34:53 | 1:34:57 | |
and as a warning, these images given
to us by Save the Children | 1:34:57 | 1:35:00 | |
do show childbirth. | 1:35:00 | 1:35:06 | |
I'd always kind of imagined
I would be a mum one day | 1:35:17 | 1:35:21 | |
but I didn't get that real
broodiness, so it was always, | 1:35:21 | 1:35:24 | |
"One day in the future." | 1:35:24 | 1:35:25 | |
I ended up going through
two rounds of IVF that | 1:35:25 | 1:35:27 | |
didn't work and separately had two
very early miscarriages. | 1:35:27 | 1:35:30 | |
It is a real shift
in how you see things. | 1:35:30 | 1:35:32 | |
Yeah, it was difficult to deal with. | 1:35:32 | 1:35:35 | |
He really wanted a family
and a child, and he was crazy | 1:36:06 | 1:36:08 | |
about children. | 1:36:08 | 1:36:10 | |
I was actually quite afraid
when I found out that I | 1:36:10 | 1:36:13 | |
was pregnant. | 1:36:13 | 1:36:16 | |
He was such a calm person
and he just looked at me, | 1:36:16 | 1:36:19 | |
smiled said to me, "Come on, | 1:36:19 | 1:36:20 | |
baby, it's never, you know,
the perfect time." | 1:36:20 | 1:36:24 | |
I was absolutely sure that things
would be OK, you know. | 1:36:24 | 1:36:30 | |
When I was four months' pregnant,
he had a stroke and, | 1:36:30 | 1:36:33 | |
after three weeks, he died. | 1:36:33 | 1:36:37 | |
Everything that we
expected just changed. | 1:36:37 | 1:36:45 | |
I had no idea how
intense the contractions | 1:37:07 | 1:37:09 | |
would be and how difficult
they would be to get through. | 1:37:09 | 1:37:12 | |
Well done. | 1:37:12 | 1:37:16 | |
She came out purple
and not breathing. | 1:37:16 | 1:37:19 | |
I didn't really register that
in the way they were rubbing her. | 1:37:19 | 1:37:25 | |
I know you wanted to delay but give
her minute and, if she isn't, | 1:37:25 | 1:37:28 | |
I'm going to cut the cord. | 1:37:28 | 1:37:30 | |
Come on. | 1:37:30 | 1:37:31 | |
OK. | 1:37:31 | 1:37:32 | |
Come on, little lady. | 1:37:32 | 1:37:35 | |
Can we get an extra pair of hands? | 1:37:35 | 1:37:38 | |
It's not rising. | 1:37:42 | 1:37:43 | |
Temperature's not rising. | 1:37:43 | 1:37:46 | |
And again. | 1:37:47 | 1:37:48 | |
No. | 1:37:48 | 1:37:50 | |
Can you keep an eye on mum? | 1:37:50 | 1:37:56 | |
The longer it took,
the more you think, "Well, | 1:37:57 | 1:37:59 | |
is she going to start breathing?" | 1:37:59 | 1:38:01 | |
I think I was crying at that point. | 1:38:01 | 1:38:07 | |
Andy was in a bit
of a state behind me. | 1:38:07 | 1:38:12 | |
After that, we heard her cry so
the ventilation had got her going. | 1:38:12 | 1:38:15 | |
Tried. | 1:38:46 | 1:38:48 | |
You saw, they told me, "Push." | 1:38:48 | 1:38:52 | |
But she was just blocked
there so I couldn't make it. | 1:38:52 | 1:38:59 | |
There is a small part
of the C section | 1:38:59 | 1:39:01 | |
I don't remember. | 1:39:01 | 1:39:02 | |
The part in the middle. | 1:39:02 | 1:39:03 | |
It is a blank. | 1:39:03 | 1:39:06 | |
I just remember
when they came in and | 1:39:10 | 1:39:12 | |
brought her to me. | 1:39:12 | 1:39:13 | |
Vamos. | 1:39:17 | 1:39:18 | |
Vamos. | 1:39:18 | 1:39:21 | |
She's wonderful. | 1:40:40 | 1:40:42 | |
She's like a little
treasure, you know. | 1:40:42 | 1:40:43 | |
She's wonderful. | 1:40:43 | 1:40:45 | |
I think she's the best
thing in my life. | 1:40:45 | 1:40:53 | |
Let's speak to Ellen Shepherd
the UK mum featured | 1:40:56 | 1:40:59 | |
in the Save The Children film. | 1:40:59 | 1:41:02 | |
Ellen is with her daughter Alice
who is now three and a half months | 1:41:02 | 1:41:05 | |
old. | 1:41:05 | 1:41:08 | |
And Simon Wright,
director of international | 1:41:08 | 1:41:10 | |
development at Save the Children UK. | 1:41:10 | 1:41:18 | |
Alice, you are staring at me
beautifully, probably full of milk! | 1:41:18 | 1:41:26 | |
Alice is safe now. We saw it was a
traumatic birth. You had a dramatic | 1:41:26 | 1:41:31 | |
journey even conceiving.
Most of my delivery was reasonably | 1:41:31 | 1:41:37 | |
calm but at the end she was very
sloppy and it took them three | 1:41:37 | 1:41:41 | |
minutes to resuscitate her which was
terrifying. It had been a long | 1:41:41 | 1:41:48 | |
journey, we spent 20 months knowing
we might find it difficult to | 1:41:48 | 1:41:52 | |
conceive. We had two unsuccessful
rounds of IVF. And another two | 1:41:52 | 1:41:59 | |
miscarriages. We were told we should
think about using an egg donor. The | 1:41:59 | 1:42:06 | |
month after Alice was conceived.
To have gone through that and to | 1:42:06 | 1:42:10 | |
have Alice born in that state, did
you understand what was happening? | 1:42:10 | 1:42:16 | |
You are in a haze when you are
giving birth. | 1:42:16 | 1:42:19 | |
I didn't remember her being like
that until I saw that footage. For | 1:42:19 | 1:42:28 | |
the first few minutes I had so much
faith in the midwives who stayed so | 1:42:28 | 1:42:31 | |
calm, the doctors came in, I thought
this happens a lot, they know what | 1:42:31 | 1:42:37 | |
they are doing. Then I was starting
to panic. Thinking what if she | 1:42:37 | 1:42:46 | |
doesn't start breathing. She is
clearly doing fine now. Simon, for | 1:42:46 | 1:42:50 | |
any woman who has given birth, they
will know every birth is different. | 1:42:50 | 1:42:55 | |
The care you receive in the UK is
pretty much the same but that can't | 1:42:55 | 1:42:59 | |
be sent for women around the world.
Access to health workers to support | 1:42:59 | 1:43:06 | |
birth is an unequal service. 30
million women in the world give | 1:43:06 | 1:43:11 | |
birth every year without any trained
health worker by their side. If | 1:43:11 | 1:43:14 | |
something goes wrong, there is no
one there who knows what to do. That | 1:43:14 | 1:43:21 | |
is why there are such high rates of
maternal mortality and newborn | 1:43:21 | 1:43:27 | |
mortality. That is why we and our
partners creating this film, we want | 1:43:27 | 1:43:35 | |
to draw attention to the fact it is
so unequal. | 1:43:35 | 1:43:39 | |
Not too mention terrifying and
incredibly painful, these women are | 1:43:39 | 1:43:43 | |
doing this without any pain relief.
Where are the places in the world | 1:43:43 | 1:43:48 | |
where women are most vulnerable? Sub
Saharan Africa, South Asia, where | 1:43:48 | 1:43:55 | |
there is no investment in health
services, very few health workers or | 1:43:55 | 1:43:59 | |
not enough, and they are not fairly
distributed. Countries like India, | 1:43:59 | 1:44:06 | |
Kenny, Nigeria, the chances of
whether you get this skilled birth | 1:44:06 | 1:44:10 | |
attendant depends on your wealth. In
the richest part of the publisher | 1:44:10 | 1:44:14 | |
and you will get good care. In the
poorest, half the women are getting | 1:44:14 | 1:44:19 | |
no support.
Often women have to travel a long | 1:44:19 | 1:44:25 | |
way to access medical care. For you,
you were very brave to have your | 1:44:25 | 1:44:30 | |
birth documented, did you have to
think about whether you wanted to | 1:44:30 | 1:44:34 | |
take part?
We didn't fully anticipate quite how | 1:44:34 | 1:44:41 | |
intimate the footage would be
beforehand. But I do like capturing | 1:44:41 | 1:44:46 | |
things like that and I have been
very open about miscarriages and IVF | 1:44:46 | 1:44:51 | |
and it is a shame we don't talk more
about these things as a society. I | 1:44:51 | 1:44:56 | |
was keen to become part of the
conversation. | 1:44:56 | 1:45:01 | |
To see the different experiences of
the different women, was it an | 1:45:01 | 1:45:06 | |
eye-opener?
It was. I had to be flat on my back, | 1:45:06 | 1:45:12 | |
on a hard bed, I can imagine being
there. | 1:45:12 | 1:45:20 | |
The thought of giving birth on your
own, I cannot even begin to imagine, | 1:45:21 | 1:45:24 | |
the idea of no pain relief, or
whatever. Is this simply down to | 1:45:24 | 1:45:30 | |
money? Is -- if money gets thrown at
the problem will it be solved? Not | 1:45:30 | 1:45:37 | |
simply. There are countries not
spending enough on their health | 1:45:37 | 1:45:40 | |
services that are organising it in
better ways but skilled birth | 1:45:40 | 1:45:44 | |
attendants, you need a health
service which is local, available 24 | 1:45:44 | 1:45:48 | |
hours a day which women can get to
when they need that kind of support | 1:45:48 | 1:45:51 | |
and in the case of an obstructed
labour whether Caesarean is needed, | 1:45:51 | 1:45:54 | |
you need a higher quality of medical
expertise to react. It's not just | 1:45:54 | 1:46:00 | |
money, it's how it's organised and
whether it's organised fairly, and | 1:46:00 | 1:46:03 | |
the fact it's so unequal in this
country shows that countries could | 1:46:03 | 1:46:06 | |
be taking a different approach. This
commitment to universal health | 1:46:06 | 1:46:11 | |
coverage that governments have made
is about this. Everybody should get | 1:46:11 | 1:46:14 | |
the health service they need and it
shouldn't matter whether they have | 1:46:14 | 1:46:17 | |
cash to pay for it or. What would
happen if a woman is is -- is in a | 1:46:17 | 1:46:23 | |
rural village in sub Saharan Africa,
a long way away from a medical | 1:46:23 | 1:46:29 | |
facility? How can you make sure
there will be a birth attendant with | 1:46:29 | 1:46:32 | |
her? You need to invest in local
health services and referral | 1:46:32 | 1:46:36 | |
services. If there is a need for a
Caesarean, you need something where | 1:46:36 | 1:46:41 | |
women can get a facility to get it
and that involves transport, and in | 1:46:41 | 1:46:47 | |
Kenny one of the women who gave
birth there trouble by motorbike -- | 1:46:47 | 1:46:52 | |
Kenya. -- travelled by motorbike.
You have to see who is paying for | 1:46:52 | 1:46:59 | |
the transport, and the roads, it's
all vitally important. It's been | 1:46:59 | 1:47:03 | |
lovely to have you come in and it is
Mother's Day on Sunday, your first | 1:47:03 | 1:47:06 | |
Mother's Day. Any plans? Sleep? We
are going on a plane to Ireland for | 1:47:06 | 1:47:12 | |
a wedding so it will be an amazing
one. It's the best time to travel | 1:47:12 | 1:47:15 | |
when they are that small. They don't
cry as much. | 1:47:15 | 1:47:23 | |
Some breaking news on Syria, and the
Syria aid convoy shelling in Ghouta, | 1:47:23 | 1:47:33 | |
this is coming from a UN
representative in eastern Ghouta is | 1:47:33 | 1:47:40 | |
putting the UN, ICRC convoy at risk,
and despite assurances of safety | 1:47:40 | 1:47:47 | |
from parties including the Russian
Federation. Today's convoy entered | 1:47:47 | 1:47:51 | |
to deliver the remaining aid that
could not be off-loaded from | 1:47:51 | 1:47:55 | |
Monday's convoy which was due to
insecurity and the ongoing fighting. | 1:47:55 | 1:47:59 | |
The UN has called for a cessation of
hostilities in the area and for calm | 1:47:59 | 1:48:04 | |
throughout Syria so that aid can be
safely delivered to the people in | 1:48:04 | 1:48:07 | |
need. That update comes to us from
Syria about the risk to the aid | 1:48:07 | 1:48:13 | |
convoy as they are trying to get aid
into that desperate town of eastern | 1:48:13 | 1:48:17 | |
Ghouta. | 1:48:17 | 1:48:20 | |
Now are you one of the many people
who can't start their day | 1:48:20 | 1:48:23 | |
without a takeaway coffee? | 1:48:23 | 1:48:24 | |
Every day hundreds of thousands
of us throw our coffee cup | 1:48:24 | 1:48:26 | |
into a recycling bin. | 1:48:26 | 1:48:28 | |
But these cups are aren't easily
recyclable, and the UK throws away | 1:48:28 | 1:48:30 | |
2.5 billion of them a year. | 1:48:30 | 1:48:33 | |
Now the idea of putting a 25p charge
on the cups has been | 1:48:33 | 1:48:36 | |
rejected by the Government. | 1:48:36 | 1:48:38 | |
Ministers say it's better for cafes
to offer discounts to customers | 1:48:38 | 1:48:40 | |
who bring their own cups. | 1:48:40 | 1:48:44 | |
We'll talk about that
with one of the MPs | 1:48:44 | 1:48:46 | |
calling for this tax in a moment. | 1:48:46 | 1:48:48 | |
But it's not just
coffee cups that are adding | 1:48:48 | 1:48:53 | |
to the plastic mountain
and damaging the environment. | 1:48:53 | 1:48:54 | |
Here are some tips on reducing
our use of plastic. | 1:48:54 | 1:49:02 | |
Have you ever thought that every
single plastic toothbrush you have | 1:49:10 | 1:49:14 | |
used is sitting out there in
landfill? | 1:49:14 | 1:49:16 | |
And for more on the
Government's rejection | 1:51:49 | 1:51:52 | |
of a "latte levy", I'm joined
in the studio by Gavin Ellis from | 1:51:52 | 1:51:55 | |
the environmental charity Hubbub. | 1:51:55 | 1:52:03 | |
He provided evidence
to the committee of MPs | 1:52:03 | 1:52:05 | |
calling for this levy. | 1:52:05 | 1:52:06 | |
And from our Leeds Newsroom
we can hear from Labour | 1:52:06 | 1:52:08 | |
and Co-operative MP Alex Sobel
who is a member of that committee. | 1:52:08 | 1:52:13 | |
Gavin, explain why you think it is
so important that you go for the | 1:52:13 | 1:52:18 | |
stick approach rather than the
carrot? I think we need both. I | 1:52:18 | 1:52:21 | |
don't think it's about one or the
other. The interesting thing about | 1:52:21 | 1:52:26 | |
what we found today is that the
government rejected a call for a | 1:52:26 | 1:52:30 | |
latte levy, and a lot of the
evidence shows that people are more | 1:52:30 | 1:52:36 | |
receptive to being charged for
something than being given a | 1:52:36 | 1:52:40 | |
discount. Like carrier bags?
Exactly. We are involved in a trial | 1:52:40 | 1:52:45 | |
in 35 Starbucks store where they are
adding 5p levy on to every cup sold | 1:52:45 | 1:52:51 | |
in the stores. That is running for
three months and it's only just | 1:52:51 | 1:52:55 | |
started. We are disappointed that
the government hasn't waited to see | 1:52:55 | 1:52:59 | |
the results of the trial before
dismissing the levy. What is the 5p | 1:52:59 | 1:53:02 | |
for? To help recycle? Or to get
people to think more? We are the | 1:53:02 | 1:53:10 | |
recipients of the 5p and we work
with the charity to change other | 1:53:10 | 1:53:14 | |
people behaviours and shift them to
reusable cups. Alex, why you think | 1:53:14 | 1:53:19 | |
it is better that there is an
incentive to use reusable cups | 1:53:19 | 1:53:25 | |
rather than this 25p levy? In the
report we want to phase out these | 1:53:25 | 1:53:33 | |
types of disposable coffee cups and
we need to create a pathway and the | 1:53:33 | 1:53:39 | |
25p levy would create recycle
facilities for coffee chains, | 1:53:39 | 1:53:48 | |
manufacturers, to create properly
nonplastic cups to use. It would | 1:53:48 | 1:53:50 | |
create both those things. But it
means we have five years of still | 1:53:50 | 1:53:55 | |
having these copy cups that we get
through at an alarming rate and | 1:53:55 | 1:53:58 | |
nothing is done about it. To be
fair, five years is a reasonable | 1:53:58 | 1:54:03 | |
compromise between us on the
government. We thought we were | 1:54:03 | 1:54:06 | |
proposing something the government
might take on. The government gave | 1:54:06 | 1:54:10 | |
the impression a few weeks ago it
would introduce the levy and they | 1:54:10 | 1:54:13 | |
have rowed back. It's typical of
this government to go for voluntary | 1:54:13 | 1:54:16 | |
measures to go -- that don't work.
In 2023, what is the plan? What | 1:54:16 | 1:54:22 | |
would the copy cups look like? They
would look different is, but | 1:54:22 | 1:54:28 | |
manufacturers would find bio
alternatives or paper alternative to | 1:54:28 | 1:54:31 | |
plastic -- coffee cups. It is
realistic if the government apply | 1:54:31 | 1:54:37 | |
some pressure and at the moment it
is all voluntary and the onus is on | 1:54:37 | 1:54:44 | |
giving discounts on reusable cups
but the vast majority so it's only | 1:54:44 | 1:54:52 | |
about once up to 2% use the
reusables despite the incentives, so | 1:54:52 | 1:54:58 | |
we need to try the different
approach and we will be openly | 1:54:58 | 1:55:03 | |
sharing the results of this at the
end of it. Shouldn't the copy shops | 1:55:03 | 1:55:07 | |
be sucking this up rather than the
consumers? -- coffee shops. There is | 1:55:07 | 1:55:13 | |
a lot of money to be made through
disposable cups. The industry hasn't | 1:55:13 | 1:55:17 | |
done enough. We ran a campaign
backed by most of the industry that | 1:55:17 | 1:55:24 | |
recycled 4 million cups, in the
city, in nine months. But with a few | 1:55:24 | 1:55:30 | |
exceptions the industry has backed
away and not shown any appetite to | 1:55:30 | 1:55:33 | |
learn from it or extended to other
areas. Would that not be a better | 1:55:33 | 1:55:38 | |
strategy that you penalised the copy
chains -- coffee chains rather than | 1:55:38 | 1:55:44 | |
the customers and create a new tax?
We need to look at the example of | 1:55:44 | 1:55:47 | |
the plastic bags. That 5p levy has
created an 85% reduction in the used | 1:55:47 | 1:55:54 | |
in shops and supermarkets and it's
the same principle. So we have got | 1:55:54 | 1:55:59 | |
proof that it works and we need to
apply to copy cups and potentially | 1:55:59 | 1:56:03 | |
look at other places to apply it in
terms of plastics. I was saying | 1:56:03 | 1:56:07 | |
before, Gavin, when you go into a
copy cups, people on their phones | 1:56:07 | 1:56:11 | |
and doing other things -- coffee.
It's not obvious where a reusable | 1:56:11 | 1:56:19 | |
cup is to buy. Do the coffee firms
need to stick it on the counter in | 1:56:19 | 1:56:23 | |
front of our noses, or maybe we
should get it free? That is | 1:56:23 | 1:56:28 | |
definitely true. Some are better
than others, but by and large it's | 1:56:28 | 1:56:31 | |
not that obvious and they are
inconspicuous. If it's obvious they | 1:56:31 | 1:56:34 | |
are on the till and they are there
and they are encouraged to use it, | 1:56:34 | 1:56:39 | |
they will be taken up more. Do you
agree that they should be more | 1:56:39 | 1:56:44 | |
obvious? Absolutely. Coffey
retailers are moving in that | 1:56:44 | 1:56:51 | |
direction but the 25p charge would
supercharge that and we would see it | 1:56:51 | 1:56:54 | |
straightaway that there would be
alternatives, just with plastic | 1:56:54 | 1:56:59 | |
bags, it became much more obvious
when the 5p charge was introduced. | 1:56:59 | 1:57:07 | |
View messages coming in with Wendy
saying we should adopt Italian style | 1:57:07 | 1:57:10 | |
copy shops where the copy is cheaper
and smaller but you drink it | 1:57:10 | 1:57:15 | |
standing at the counter. It doesn't
necessarily go with the big cities | 1:57:15 | 1:57:21 | |
and that on the go culture but the
charging for disposable cups might | 1:57:21 | 1:57:27 | |
encourage people to drink it in
store as well. Jack says I work for | 1:57:27 | 1:57:31 | |
a copy chain and we offer a discount
for reusable cups -- coffee chain. | 1:57:31 | 1:57:38 | |
We then collect ones and recycle
them. Irrespective of how | 1:57:38 | 1:57:44 | |
politicians vote, companies have a
responsibility for community | 1:57:44 | 1:57:47 | |
leadership and should be taking the
lead in being environmentally | 1:57:47 | 1:57:50 | |
responsible. Jade has tweeted saying
my university offers discounted hot | 1:57:50 | 1:57:55 | |
drinks to those who bring reusable
coffee cups and it is an incentive. | 1:57:55 | 1:58:02 | |
I am just being told that we need to
bring you this breaking news, just | 1:58:02 | 1:58:08 | |
getting to me here. 100 RAF
personnel are being deployed in | 1:58:08 | 1:58:13 | |
Salisbury to help police and assist
with the investigation. Thank you | 1:58:13 | 1:58:16 | |
for coming in. Newsroom Live coming
next, thanks for your company, have | 1:58:16 | 1:58:21 | |
a great day. | 1:58:21 | 1:58:23 |