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Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 9 o'clock. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
I'm Victoria Derbyshire,
welcome to the programme | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
Our top story today -
planting fake news, spying | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
on rivals, hiring beautiful women
for use in honeytraps, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
some of the things the boss
of election campaign consultants | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
Cambridge Analytica
talked about when talking | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
to a possible client
who was, in fact, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
an undercover reporter. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
The boss now says that report
grossly misrepresented | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
those conversations. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:35 | |
Please see this as a coordinated
attack by the media that's been | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
going on for very, very many months
-- we see this as. In order to | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
damage the company that had some
involvement with the election of | 0:00:44 | 0:00:51 | |
Donald Trump. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:51 | |
The Information Commissioner says
she'll be investigating - | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
we'll hear from her before the end
of the programme. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
Also on the programme -
in an exclusive interview, | 0:00:56 | 0:01:01 | |
actor Michael Sheen tells us how
he's taking on rent to own companies | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
which charge huge interest rates
for household products - | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
it's an issue we've
investigated before. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
I said where's it from? BrightHouse.
I said, oh, my God. How many times | 0:01:13 | 0:01:19 | |
have I said don't judge them with a
barge pole?! | 0:01:19 | 0:01:25 | |
barge pole?! We will hear from
Michael Sheen and former Labour | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
leader Ed Miliband in the next 15
minutes. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
And hair plays a huge part
in our self image and self esteem - | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
so what impact does it have
on you if you start | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
losing it in yours 20s? | 0:01:37 | 0:01:38 | |
I thought I am too young for her
loss, I have just turned 25, I have | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
experienced this since college. I am
way too young to be losing my hair. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:53 | |
Hello. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:54 | |
Welcome to the programme,
we're live until 11. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
As we are each weekday. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
Throughout the morning we'll bring
you the latest breaking news | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
and developing stories and -
as always - we're keen | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
to hear from you. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
Also we'll bring you this story -
the world's last male northern white | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
rhino has died in Kenya,
bringing the sub-species to the very | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
brink of extinction. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
The 45-year-old rhino,
who was called Sudan, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
was in poor health and was put
down on Monday. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
His daughter and grand-daughter
are the only females remaining now. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:28 | |
We'll look at what this means
and talk to those who knew Sudan. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
Do get in touch on all the stories
we're talking about this morning - | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
use the hashtag #VictoriaLive. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
You can also send an e-mail or
message is on Facebook or Twitter. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
If you text, you will be charged
at the standard network rate. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
Our top story today... | 0:02:43 | 0:02:44 | |
The Information Commissioner
will today apply for a warrant | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
to search the offices of a British
company accused of misusing | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
the personal data of 50
million Facebook users. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
A former employee of
Cambridge Analytica has accused it | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
of exploiting information
about Facebook users | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
in order to influence the US
presidential election. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
Its executives have also been filmed
by Channel 4 News suggesting it | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
could use honey traps
and potentially bribery | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
to discredit politicians. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
Both Cambridge Analytica
and Facebook deny any wrongdoing. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
Mark Lobel reports. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
A leading British data mining
firm is today battling | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
to save its reputation. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
Yet, this is complex to do... | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
Executives from Cambridge Analytica
have been secretly filmed | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
by Channel 4 News apparently
suggesting it could use honey traps | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
and potential bribery
to discredit politicians. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:36 | |
But the company hit back,
criticising how the programme | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
was edited, claiming they do not
engage in honey traps or bribes. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:44 | |
Last night, the company's chief
executive spoke to the BBC. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
I have a huge amount of regrets
about the fact that we maybe | 0:03:48 | 0:03:55 | |
undertook this meeting and spoke
with a certain amount of hyperbole | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
about some of the things that we do. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
But the allegations don't end there. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
Cambridge Analytica may be
responsible for a major breach | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
of ordinary people's data, too. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
It has been accused of using
the personal data from 50 million | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Facebook users to encourage voters
to back Donald Trump during the 2016 | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
US presidential election. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
A whistleblower from the company
claims a personality quiz | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
on Facebook was used
to amass the data. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
That potential breach
of privacy has alarmed | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
the Information Commissioner
who today, citing Cambridge | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Analytica's lack of co-operation,
is seeking a warrant | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
to search its databases and servers. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
Facebook suspended Cambridge
Analytica from its services last | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
week and instructed a digital
forensic team to find out if it | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
still has the data in question,
but Cambridge Analytica claimed it | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
has deleted all the data it obtained
from a third party application | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
in 2014 after learning
the information did not adhere | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
to data protection rules. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
Mark Lobel, BBC News. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:04 | |
Our correspondent
Keith Doyle is here now. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
What else can you tell us? Cambridge
Analytica wants to be in the | 0:05:08 | 0:05:15 | |
background, obviously, and it is
finding itself in the headlines, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
something it definitely does not
once. Those allegations of last | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
night, the recording is broadcast by
Channel 4, in that Aleksander Nix | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
was asked about Digg Dummett Radebe
digging, he said we do a lot more | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
than that. -- was asked about deep
digging. We could offer clients a | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
deal that seems too good to be true,
maybe send some girls around. He | 0:05:34 | 0:05:40 | |
said he was grossly misrepresented
and they were following ludicrous | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
hypothetical scenarios so as not to
embarrass what they thought was a | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
potential client. Now we know the
information Commissioner Elizabeth | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
Denham wants to look at their
servers and computers. Liam Byrne, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:57 | |
the shadowed digital Business
Minister is questioning that, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:03 | |
questioning whether she has the
right legal powers to be able to | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
carry out a thorough search. He says
that in effect she has given them a | 0:06:07 | 0:06:13 | |
bit of a heads up and now they know
what lies in store, so he says it is | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
the wild West out there. It will be
interesting to hear what she says | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
later. Thank you, Keith. We will
hear both from Labour's Liam Byrne | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
and the information Commissioner
later. Annita McVeigh has the rest | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
of the day's news. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:36 | |
Jeremy Corbyn says the UK must steel
deal with Vladimir Putin despite | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
evidence pointing to his country's
involvement in the Salisbury spy | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
attack. The Labour leader said he
would do business with Russia but | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
assertively and on the basis of UK
values. Shadow Chancellor John | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
McDonnell says he believes Putin was
responsible but Mr Corbyn said he | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
wanted an absolutely definitive
answer about the source of the nerve | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
agent. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
Former French President Nicolas
Sarkozy is being held in police | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
custody in connection with an
investigation into campaign funding. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
Police are investigating alleged
irregularities over the financing of | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
his 2007 presidential campaign. He
is being questioned over allegations | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
that he received funding from Bulega
Libyan leader Colonel Gaddafi. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
Consumers could see prices fall
by up to 1.2% if Britain | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
were to abolish all tariffs once it
has left the European Union. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
The findings are in
a report by the financial | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
think tank, the Institute for Fiscal
Studies. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:31 | |
But the independent report also
warns that any gains would be small | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
and that costs linked to new EU
trade barriers could hit consumers. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
A two-year-old girl has died
after being lifted from a car found | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
in a river in Wales. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
Kiara Moore was recovered
from a silver Mini in | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
the River Teifi in Cardigan. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
On Monday afternoon,
numerous Facebook posts claimed | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
the car had been stolen. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
Officers say they are continuing
to investigate the circumstances | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
of the incident and appealed
for witnesses who may have seen | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
the vehicle enter the river. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
The taxi-hailing service Uber
has suspended testing | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
of its driverless cars in the US
after a fatal accident. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
A 49-year-old woman was hit
as she crossed a street in Arizona. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
While self-driving cars have been
involved in several crashes, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
it is thought to be the first time
a self-driving car has been involved | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
in a fatal collision. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:24 | |
Police are urging members of the
public to help them prevent terror | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
attacks in the UK as part of a new
drive to encourage people to report | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
suspicious behaviour or activity.
Detectives have revealed that one in | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
five reports made to
counterterrorism police last year | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
contained useful intelligence. Here
is our home affairs correspondent | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Danny Shaw. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
The police need the public's
help to tackle terrorism. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
They want people to become
their ears and eyes, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
to be on the lookout for unusual
activity or behaviour and report it. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
The message is,
trust your instincts. | 0:08:54 | 0:09:02 | |
Just as officers trust
theirs when they spot | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
something that doesn't feel right. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
I may see someone paying attention
to security operations, um, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
a car going past the same location
numerous times, a person with no | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
direction or purpose,
but the list is not exhaustive. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
It's very much what is
suspicious to that person. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:21 | |
As part of the police campaign,
there is a short film to show | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
people the kind of things
they should report. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
We have long said every good
police officer should be | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
a counterterrorism officer. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
I want every good citizen to be
a good counterterrorism citizen | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
and this is the way they can
do just that. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
Counterterrorism police say
they received more than 6000 useful | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
tipoffs last year out of almost
31,000 calls and messages | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
and they want the information
to keep on coming. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
Danny Shaw, BBC News. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:57 | |
Fathers wanting to take an equal
share in looking after young | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
children are being failed
by workplace policies, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:01 | |
the Government is being warned. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
The Women and Equalities Committee
said that, despite good intentions, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
policies aimed at helping fathers
are not delivering what they | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
promise - especially
for less well-off workers. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
MPs called for improvements
to flexible working, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:14 | |
shared parental leave
and paternity pay. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:20 | |
The world's last surviving
male northern white | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
rhino has died in Kenya. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
45-year-old Sudan was put to sleep
on Monday after suffering | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
from age-related complications. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
His death leaves only two females -
his daughter and granddaughter - | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
alive in the world. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
Scientists are hoping
to develop IVF techniques | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
to preserve the subspecies. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:45 | |
The TV presenter and McPartlin has
stepped down from his work | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
commitments to return to rehab after
being arrested on suspicion of | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
drink-driving. This weekend's
Saturday Night Takeaway has been | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
cancelled and it is not clear who
will present the final two episodes | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
of the series. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
The impact of losing
your hair when you're | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
young can be devastating. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
Radio 1 Newsbeat has been
speaking to people who've | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
lost their hair in their twenties. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
They've been talking
about the effect it had had | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
on their lives and the measures
they're taking to deal with it. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
You can see our special report
in about fifteen minutes' time. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC
News - more at 9:30am. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:26 | |
We will talk to actor Michael Sheen
in a moment. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:32 | |
in a moment. He is launching a
campaign to promote alternative | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
credit companies who have much
cheaper credit than big payday loan | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
companies and the rent to own
companies, something we have | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
featured on this programme a number
of times. We will talk to him in a | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
moment, but first Jess has the
sport. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:54 | |
sport. There is debate about whether
Serena Williams has been given the | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
rough end of the draw in Miami? Lots
of debate about this, especially in | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
the BBC Sports Centre in Salford.
She has returned after 13 months | 0:12:03 | 0:12:11 | |
off. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
She used to be the world number
one but since returning | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
is currently ranked 491st. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
And because of that low ranking,
she will play a tougher opponent | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
earlier on in a tournament,
rather than in the latter | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
stages, making it more
difficult for her to win. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
The director of the Miami Open,
where Serena will play | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
in the first round this evening,
has described the whole thing | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
as "punishment" against Serena
for taking time out to have a baby. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:37 | |
James Blake suggests there should be
protection for women players that | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
go on maternity leave. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:46 | |
His quotes are quite strong. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
The Women's Tennis Association
recently said that they are very | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
supportive of those players
returning from pregnancy and the | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
players... And the rules, I should
say, will be further reviewed. But | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
we have not had a response from
Serena yet, amazingly. She plays in | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
Miami this evening so we expect to
hear from her possibly a bit later. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:27 | |
All the dust and snow has settled on
the Six Nations, everyone happy and | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
the Ireland camp but questions being
asked of Eddie Jones? The fallout | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
from England's rubber skin showing
in the Six Nations continues. Former | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
player Jeremy Guscott is having his
Siame believes England need to start | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
from scratch and have not made any
progress in the last year. They were | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
defending Six Nations champions,
they lost three of their five | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
matches, finishing fifth in the | 0:13:52 | 0:14:04 | |
table. There was so much fanfare
when Eddie Jones, the head coach, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
took the mantle and they went on an
amazing run of winning games, but it | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
has all fallen apart and there are
major questions to be as of Jones | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
and the England players.
We don't normally feature football | 0:14:18 | 0:14:24 | |
from Chile, something we need to
rectify immediately. Show as this | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
outstanding acting acclamation this
is the Chilean top-flight. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:35 | |
Definitely a contender for worst
dive of the year, possibly ever. You | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
only | 0:14:40 | 0:14:40 | |
dive of the year, possibly ever. You
only really get to see it in the | 0:14:40 | 0:14:41 | |
slow replay. The defender in white
falls down, the attacker thinks no, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:49 | |
I will not kick it, I will throw
myself to the floor. Look how his | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
neck cocks back, he rides around on
the floor a little bit and | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
amazingly, because of | 0:14:58 | 0:14:59 | |
the floor a little bit and
amazingly, because of acting, he won | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
a penalty. No! You reap what you
sow, that will come back to haunt | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
him. Thank you very much, Jessica.
Welcome to the programme. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:13 | |
Tackling those who
unfairly target the most | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
vulnerable in society -
the British actor, Michael Sheen, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
who's starred in films
such as Frost/Nixon, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
The Queen and The Twilight Saga,
has founded a new initiative aimed | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
at providing fairer alternatives
to mainstream rent-to-own firms. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:33 | |
The End High Cost Credit
Alliance will invest | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
in not-for-profit companies
to compete and win against | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
high-cost credit providers
like Brighthouse and Perfect Home. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Rent-to-own firms are often
used by people who cannot afford | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
to buy a product outright,
or cannot get credit. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
Consumers take out
an agreement to buy a product | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
and then pay weekly instalments
until they own it - similar | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
to a hire purchase agreement. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
But customers can end up
paying much more than the actual | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
cost of the product due to high
rates of interest and extra | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
costs such as a mandatory warranty. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
It's an issue we've
been looking at for some | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
time on this programme. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
In July, 2016, former Labour leader
Ed Miliband reported on the subject | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
for us and highlighted one example | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
that a £358 washing machine ended up
costing more than £1,000. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:25 | |
With so much choice
on the high street, we're told | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
the customer is king. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
As leader of the Labour Party and a
backbench MP, I have talked about | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
the needs for firms to do right by
their customers and play by the | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
rules. They have 300 stores across
the country, often in the poorest | 0:16:42 | 0:16:50 | |
areas, Brighthouse. I want to find
out what kind of service they are | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
really providing. I am concerned
Brighthouse are taking advantage of | 0:16:53 | 0:16:59 | |
people on benefits and low incomes.
In the course of our investigation, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
I have been really shocked to find
Brighthouse are selling to people | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
with mental health problems and
learning disabilities. Suffers with | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
mental health problems, severe.
Craig is 38, with autism and | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
cerebral palsy. His mum says her son
did not understand the contract. She | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
spoke to us on his behalf. He will
pay but then he has nothing for | 0:17:22 | 0:17:29 | |
himself. For food and electric, gas,
things like that. He is quite a | 0:17:29 | 0:17:36 | |
handful. Tell us a bit about what
experience you have had but | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
Brighthouse. Craig apparently had
been in and bought this machine | 0:17:39 | 0:17:46 | |
where you play games. I kept seeing
it in the house and I did not really | 0:17:46 | 0:17:52 | |
tweak and then I said, where did
you... How much are you paying for | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
that? He said £50. It was 43 a
month. I said, where is it from? He | 0:17:57 | 0:18:05 | |
said Brighthouse. I said, my God,
how many times have I said do not | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
touch them with a barge pole? Do you
think it would have been obvious to | 0:18:10 | 0:18:16 | |
the Brighthouse staff Craig has
learning difficulties? Yes. What was | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
the reaction of Brighthouse when you
complained in the shop and when you | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
wrote to them? They said, we have
been through this, a new man at the | 0:18:24 | 0:18:30 | |
shop, we go through this to make
sure they know what they are | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
getting. I said, that is no good to
Craig. Although she believes | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
Brighthouse should have realised her
son was from rubble, she says they | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
stop taking payments from his
account as soon as she told them | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
about his situation -- her son was
vulnerable. Brighthouse dispute the | 0:18:46 | 0:18:53 | |
claims it would have been obvious he
had learning difficulties. They had | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
no reason to believe he was not
aware of what he was doing. There | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
are those who make the case there
was a gap in the market and Perfect | 0:19:01 | 0:19:07 | |
Home, Brighthouse and others provide
an essential purpose. The | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
fundamental question is whether we
think these people should be able to | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
opt into a contract where they pay
more overall or have the appliance, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
it is an injustice to tell people
that because they are poor they | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
cannot have things that we consider
necessities. Some of the companies | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
are making very big profits at the
expense of my constituents. How is | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
it fair? They are taking on a lot of
risk. They are making marginal | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
profits because they are loaning to
people with average credit scores. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
These went to an companies often
take on people with no credit score, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
they do not know if they will get
the payment, they take on a lot of | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
risk. They get their profits because
they have to insure down the line | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
they will get some kind of return
but in the meantime people who would | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
not have the goods are getting them
to their homes next day delivery. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:03 | |
That report from Ed Miliband, 2016.
And he is here. Former Labour leader | 0:20:03 | 0:20:09 | |
of course. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
In Glasgow is Michael Sheen who's
launching this move to end | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
the high cost of credit
and is giving his first interview | 0:20:14 | 0:20:20 | |
on the subject to us this morning. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
We would like your experiences. A
world away from your day job, tell | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
our audience what it is you are
launching and what you wanted to | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
achieve. I'm in Glasgow for a
responsible finance forum, I want to | 0:20:31 | 0:20:39 | |
launch the End High-Cost Credit
Alliance and it is to create a | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
fairer deal for the people who find
themselves unable to access | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
mainstream credit and a fairer deal
for the company is trying to help | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
those people out, to try to give
them the best deal possible. It is | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
double tracked. And you have been
made aware of the effect of this | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
kind of high cost credit on friends
and family, I gather? Over the last | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
seven, eight years, when you have a
little bit of celebrity, like I do, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
you get asked to come and support
different projects and one of the | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
things that has kept coming up is
this issue around household debt and | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
high cost credit. I started to see
it with friends and family members | 0:21:17 | 0:21:24 | |
and the burden that is, the stress
it puts on your health, your | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
financial and mental and physical
health, as I started to get more | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
involved in this issue, I wanted to
see if I could be effective, I did | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
not want to just lend my name to
something, I wanted to help people | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
trying to help others to see if we
could make a change. Let me read you | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
this text message from one of our
viewers, Jerome. Why do people buy | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
things they do not | 0:21:49 | 0:22:00 | |
need and cannot afford? I have not
got a 50 inch TV, I could not afford | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
one. It is not the shop's fault
people are stupid. What we are | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
seeing is people are having to go to
high cost credit lenders to cover | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
basic household cross. There was a
report coming out saying that as of | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
last year 1.4 million people are now
using high cost credit just to cover | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
basic household costs, up from 1.1
million the year before, it is on | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
the rise. Since the 2008 crash, wage
earnings have not been able to keep | 0:22:21 | 0:22:27 | |
up with inflation, so the cost of
living is getting higher and wages | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
are not matching it, there is a
squeeze for people and people are | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
feeling it more and more. Is there
anything wrong with this | 0:22:34 | 0:22:48 | |
kind of of customers know the risks
and charges? Credit can be a really | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
good thing, the useful and necessary
tool, if done responsibly unfairly. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
We try to plan on what is coming
down the line, but sometimes the | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
washing machine breaking down can
cause a crisis, we have to have | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
access to help when we need it, the
problem is that if there are people | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
who are looking out for that and
preying on people when they are in | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
difficulty, that seems unfair. There
are alternatives but people do not | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
know about them because they do not
have the marketing budget is the big | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
companies have so the point is to
make sure people are aware they have | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
other options but we have to support
those options so they can take on | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
these people. We did contact
Brighthouse, one of the rent-to-own | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
companies, they said they did not
want to comment or appear on the | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
programme, but they suggest they are
offering something no one else is | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
and it is a service. Yeah, we talk
about things like APR which is | 0:23:36 | 0:23:42 | |
essentially the cost of borrowing,
and the companies that are, I would | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
say, fairer, more responsible, the
APR still looks relatively high, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
nowhere near as high as the more
irresponsible companies, as I would | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
say, but to bring the APR down, we
have to support them, we have to | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
give them a level playing field to
compete because there is a gap in | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
the market, as your film was saying,
people do need help, it is just they | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
are not as aware of the other
companies. Are you providing in | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
practical terms an alternative
source of credit or are you simply | 0:24:14 | 0:24:21 | |
promoting cheaper alternative
providers of instant credit that | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
already exist? We want to take a
look at the entire sector, creating | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
a fairer level playing field across
the whole place and that is what Ed | 0:24:29 | 0:24:36 | |
would support, I think, if you look
at individual sections, it is hard | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
to tackle, so you have to take a
more holistic look and that is why | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
the alliances working with
regulators and policymakers and | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
funders and think tanks and
grant-making organisations to try to | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
create a real shift in the financial
landscape, not just to try to stop | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
the worst practices but to support
the better ones. You will be aware | 0:24:56 | 0:25:02 | |
of sometimes cynicism that sometimes
exists when high profile wealthy | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
people like yourself get involved in
issues like this, will you be | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
putting some of your own money into
this? The alliance so far has been | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
funded by my own money, this is
something... I am not an expert but | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
I wanted to make sure people who are
experts and have experience and | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
resources come together and work
together because this requires a lot | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
of different things happening at the
same time. What I found I can bring | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
to the table as I can get people to
sit in the same room together, that | 0:25:30 | 0:25:37 | |
would not normally, even if it is
just to sign a copy of Twilight and | 0:25:37 | 0:25:43 | |
I have freedom and independence and
I'm not looking for votes, I'm not | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
getting paid, I can be more
problematic about it and this is a | 0:25:46 | 0:25:57 | |
cross-party politics, it is about a
fairer deal -- I can be more | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
pragmatic. Ed Miliband, this is what
Brighthouse say, they serve | 0:26:01 | 0:26:07 | |
low-income families excluded from
mainstream credit, went to owners | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
are very different proposition to
other forms of we undertake | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
extensive affordability assessment
-- rent-to-own is a very different | 0:26:14 | 0:26:21 | |
proposition. It is worth saying what
has happened since I did the film. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
Since then, the FCO, the people in
charge, they have find Brighthouse | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
nearly £15 million and they have
made them pay back money to | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
customers because of the sharp
practices, they said they were not | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
responsible lenders. We have also
seen some changes to Brighthouse's | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
practices. One of the things I
highlighted was the way they bundled | 0:26:41 | 0:26:46 | |
together the so-called 5-star
service they offered on the price | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
and that has changed. The
fundamental problem, Michael talked | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
about this very well, you have got
the most vulnerable people who do | 0:26:52 | 0:26:58 | |
not have an alternative, they are
paying £1500 for a sofa, £1200 for a | 0:26:58 | 0:27:05 | |
television, paying over the odds,
and Brighthouse's business model is | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
based on that very high annual
percentage rate, APR, 70%, often, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
and that is the problem. So I do not
share Brighthouse's you, I think | 0:27:15 | 0:27:22 | |
they are exploiting vulnerable
people. But there are other mid-cost | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
alternative credit providers as
Michael explained, customers simply | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
need to choose them. I do not think
there is enough of the alternatives | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
and that is why I think what Michael
is doing is very important because | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
he is trying to use his convening
power, bringing people together, to | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
try to get other financiers and
people who care about these issues | 0:27:43 | 0:27:49 | |
to support some of the credit
unions, the not-for-profit | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
alternatives. My constituency
experience which is where I based | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
the film is that this can be done at
a much... In a sustainable way at a | 0:27:56 | 0:28:03 | |
much lower cost. People who cannot
afford the money upfront, you can | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
find ways of lending them the money
so that they can buy the cooker, the | 0:28:06 | 0:28:12 | |
washing machine, the TV, and pay it
back and it does not need to cost | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
than double or three times the
amount. A couple of messages, this | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
from... I don't know, but anyway, it
is on Twitter, they are doing what | 0:28:22 | 0:28:29 | |
our government should be doing,
campaigning to protect the most | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
vulnerable in our society from
extortionate high-cost credit. Jamie | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
says, great campaign by Michael
Sheen to end higher cost credit, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
people get sucked into a spiral and
cannot get out while being preyed | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
upon by big business. I will
introduce Stacey, a mum of five, she | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
has borrowed quite a bit of money
over the years, can you hear me? | 0:28:49 | 0:28:57 | |
Yeah. Thank you for coming on the
programme. Tell us how much you | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
think you have ended up borrowing
from some of these companies. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:08 | |
Thousands, to be fair. How many, do
you know? Probably about four, five. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:17 | |
What has it been like trying to pay
the money back? It is a bit of a | 0:29:17 | 0:29:25 | |
struggle but like people say, I
borrow it, but it has only been for | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
stuff we need, like washing
machines, fridge freezer, if they | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
break, we have not borrowed money
like the text message said to get a | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
big 50 inch TV. For you, would you
describe it as a positive thing? It | 0:29:38 | 0:29:45 | |
has, but if we had a bit more access
to credit, but I checked my credit | 0:29:45 | 0:29:51 | |
score regularly and my problem is at
the minute because I have that much | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
credit out, payments, I pay it all,
all up to date, but because my | 0:29:55 | 0:30:01 | |
credit, I have a lot of it, I cannot
go and, say, get a loan to | 0:30:01 | 0:30:07 | |
consolidate my credit because they
will not let me have it. Understood. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
And what do you think from what you
have heard of Michael Sheen's | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
campaign? | 0:30:15 | 0:30:20 | |
I think it is brilliant. There is an
alternative to BrightHouse. The | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
thing I like about BrightHouse, I
got two of my children refurbished | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
laptops from them not long ago. We
could have got these outright | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
because they did not cost that much,
but one reason we did not because of | 0:30:32 | 0:30:37 | |
the insurance they give with that,
anything happens they -- you can | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
take it back and they will sort it.
Which was really good because one of | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
my twins decided to put a whole
bottle of lemonade over my | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
daughter's laptop. How much was the
insurance? To be fair, I don't | 0:30:49 | 0:30:56 | |
actually know. I have it written
down. It is only about two or £3 a | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
week, not a huge amount, but it is
handy to have. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
Thank you very much for coming on
the programme, Stacey booth, mum of | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
five, who has had a positive
experience. Thank you to Ed Miliband | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
and Michael Sheen. Before you go, Ed
Miliband, you would expect me to ask | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
you about Jeremy Corbyn and Russia.
Mr Corbyn has given an interview to | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
our colleagues on Radio 4 today. I
will give you a quote from it if I | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
may. He tells The World At One that
the UK must still deal with Russia, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:34 | |
despite all fingers pointing to it
over | 0:31:34 | 0:31:46 | |
the Salisbury spy attack. Is he
right? Of course we will have to | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
deal with them. I was not in the
House of Commons when he responded | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
to Theresa May but I read his piece
he wrote about this. He said the | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
evidence pointed to Russia, he
backed expelling the diplomats but | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
you need to be calm and
level-headed. It is very serious | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
what Russia did, very serious indeed
and has to be taken incredibly | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
seriously by the British Government,
of course we will have to deal with | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
them.
Did Jeremy Corbyn misjudge the | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
public mood? I don't think so. He
was approaching it in his own way, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
saying you need to be calm and
measured. I think you need calm and | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
measured leaderships. A couple more
comments regarding payday loan at | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
rent to own, Caven said I bought a
corner suite from one when I moved | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
to a new house, paying £100 a month.
I lost my job after 12 months and | 0:32:25 | 0:32:31 | |
could not pay, the company took it
away and we lost all our money. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
Peter says I'm sure Michael Sheen
has the best intentions but | 0:32:35 | 0:32:41 | |
involving himself in competing with
established businesses very | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
experienced in risk management is
doomed to cost the current backers. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
Helen says Michael Sheen being
brilliant on exploitative credit | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
like BrightHouse with Ed Miliband
this morning. It says why is Ed | 0:32:51 | 0:32:59 | |
Miliband saying poor people don't
have an alternative, what about | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
credit unions? That is right, but we
need people to know about the credit | 0:33:02 | 0:33:08 | |
unions. I spoke to my own credit
union this morning and they need | 0:33:08 | 0:33:14 | |
more help and support. My credit
union is restarting its business, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
offering people an alternative to
BrightHouse. We hope it succeeds. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:24 | |
But the credit union sector in this
country does less well than in | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
others. We need more backing for
that from Government, the Financial | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
Conduct Authority, it is very
complex for credit unions to offer | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
this service. And I think the banks
could do a lot more to stand by and | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
support the work of credit unions.
Thank you very much. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
Still to come... | 0:33:44 | 0:33:45 | |
Loosing your hair in your 20s
and the impact it can have. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
A 23-year-old woman who wears a wig
has been investigating for us. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:54 | |
And on the brink of extinction -
only 2 white rhinos remain | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
after the world's last male species
died, we'll look at what that | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
means for the species. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:07 | |
Time for the latest
news - here's Annita. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
The BBC News headlines
this morning... | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
A British company accused
of misusing personal data | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
belonging to 50 million Facebook
users is being investigated | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
by the information watchdog. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:21 | |
The UK's Information Commissioner
says she will seek a warrant to look | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
at databases and servers hosted
by Cambridge Analytica. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
The firm is accused of using
facebook data without consent | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
to influence the outcome
of the last US election. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
Both Cambridge Analytica
and Facebook deny any wrongdoing. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:41 | |
Meanwhile Cambridge Analytica
executives have been filmed by | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
Channel 4 News suggesting it could
use honey traps and potentially | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
bribery to discredit politicians.
The company denies any wrongdoing. | 0:34:52 | 0:35:00 | |
Jeremy Corbyn says the UK must still
deal with Vladimir Putin despite | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
evidence pointing to his country's
involvement in the Salisbury spy | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
attack. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
The Labour leader said he would do
business with Russia but | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
assertively and on the
basis of UK values. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell
says he believes Putin was | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
responsible but Mr Corbyn said
he wanted an absolutely definitive | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
answer about the source
of the nerve agent. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:47 | |
The former French
president Nicolas Sarkozy | 0:35:47 | 0:35:48 | |
is being held in police custody
in connection with an investigation | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
into campaign funding. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
Police are investigating
alleged irregularities over | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
the financing of his
2007 presidential campaign. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
He is being questioned over
allegations that he received funding | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
from the late Libyan leader Colonel
Gaddafi. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:12 | |
That's a summary of
the latest BBC News. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
We will go straight to Paris and
speak to Hugh Schofield. Tell us | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
more about the fact that the former
French president is being | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
questioned? This investigation goes
back many, many years. We're talking | 0:36:27 | 0:36:33 | |
about the 2006/7 campaign which led
Sarkozy to victory, an investigation | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
opened by judges in 2013. French
justice grind exceedingly slow. It | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
has to be said that the fact that
Sarkozy has been brought in for | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
obligatory questioning and been held
for 48 hours by the investigating | 0:36:48 | 0:36:54 | |
police in this affair suggests that
the magistrates have been honoured | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
for so long and they feel they are
getting closer to the nub of the | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
affair. It could end up at the end
of the 24, 48-hour period where he | 0:37:00 | 0:37:05 | |
has been held, that he will be
placed under a judicial | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
investigation, meaning a probable
trial. It is very bad news the | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
Nicolas Sarkozy. This allegation has
swarmed around for years and many of | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
us, myself included, treated with a
huge amount of caution. Libyan money | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
funding a French presidential
election campaign, it sounded far | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
too unlikely to be true. It lends an
enormous amount of credence to the | 0:37:27 | 0:37:32 | |
very allegation which some people
have pushed, they say they have had | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
evidence for for some years, the
idea being that back then Sarkozy | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
said I have to have a big blitz of a
campaign, take French politics to a | 0:37:39 | 0:37:46 | |
new level, American-style levels of
razzmatazz. He cultivated through | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
various contacts Colonel Gaddafi and
got this money, 50 million euros. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
Into context, if you remember back
then, quite shortly after being | 0:37:55 | 0:38:00 | |
elected, who did a state visit, a
very unusual state visit, parking | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
his tent on the lawn? Colonel
Gaddafi. There is a lot of murk, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
part of the problem has been that
lots of the witnesses are by | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
definition almost totally
unreliable, which has allowed the | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
Sarkozy camp to say the allegations
have been put up by people trying to | 0:38:16 | 0:38:22 | |
create smoke screens, but if the
judges getting closer to the truth | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
and the truth is that money was
coming into the Sarkozy campaign, it | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
casts a very great shadow over the
whole Sarkozy legacy. Thank you, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
Hugh Schofield. Jessica has the
latest sport. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
Should Serena Williams' world
ranking be protected? | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
The tournament director of
the Miami Open, James Blake, thinks | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
so and describes the current
seeding rules as punishment | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
for women that return to tennis
after having a baby. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
The fallout from England's dismal
Six Nations campaign continues. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
Former England player Jeremy Guscott
says the team haven't made any | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
progress in the past year. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
Not since 2006 have they lost
three matches in a single | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
Six Nations campaign. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
England are still waiting
on the fitness of all-rounder Ben | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
Stokes ahead of Thursday's first
Test against New Zealand. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
The ECB say he's on track to play
his first Test in six months. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
Craig Overton has told the BBC he'll
be ready to step in if needed. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:21 | |
South Africa's Kagiso Rabada
is available to play | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
in South Africa's final two
Tests against Australia. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
The seamer had been banned for bad
behaviour in an ill-tempered series | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
but has had the punishment
reduced on appeal. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:38 | |
That is all your sport, I will be
back with a full bulletin at just | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
after 10am. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:52 | |
Next, losing your hair
when you're young | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
and the impact it can have on you,
especially if you're in your 20s. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
Chedira Eggerue is 23 and wears
a wig to hide her bald patch. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
She's been talking to other people
about their own hairloss | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
for Radio 1's Newsbeat. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:04 | |
It shows some graphic
images of hair transplants. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
Hair is a big part of us. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:07 | |
It shows off our style, identity
and lets us change up our look. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
It's the thing that can
make us feel beautiful. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
But we won't all keep
our hair forever. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
Some of us are going to lose it. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:21 | |
People have always gone bald,
and they've tried lots of strange | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
ways to hide it or stop
it falling out. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
But some techniques work
better than others. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
My name is Chedira, I'm 23 and most
people don't know this is a wig. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:36 | |
There a massive bald patch right
here, and that's pretty much | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
what I've been hiding
underneath this the whole time. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
My hair loss gets to me. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
And it's something that
obsesses other women | 0:40:43 | 0:40:44 | |
and loads of young men too. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
I'm going to meet others
who are losing their hair, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
and some who are going to extreme
lengths to get it back. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:55 | |
I'm going only as deep as we need to
go, which is where the roots start. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
I'll find out about my own hair
loss, and discover whether you can | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
ever feel good about it. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
Because it doesn't matter how
rich and famous you are, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
you can't hide from hair loss. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:13 | |
When I wear this, it's
almost like a hat that's | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
measured to your head. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:17 | |
It's got an elastic band. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:18 | |
So I wear this and it doesn't
disturb my hairline at all. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
My hairline remains
as it is underneath. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
It's really easy to put on, but also
really easy to remove as well. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
So I'm going to remove it. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:31 | |
It looks bad. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
That's the word I'd use. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
It looks bad. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:35 | |
My definition of bad is just patchy. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
So patchy and annoying. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
To a lot of people that doesn't look
too bad, they might say. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
Yeah. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:44 | |
Even to me, on some days,
it doesn't look as bad. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
But then other days it's like,
oh my goodness, this is so obvious. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
So this hairstyle is pretty much
what took away my hairline. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
You can see the extensions
are quite thick and heavy. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
And then, as if that wasn't enough,
I went and tied it up | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
into an enormous bun. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:01 | |
And what happens is when you have
your hair in a heavy bun like that, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
each time you move your head,
the bun sways. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
So each time that's where it
happens, a bit of hair falls out. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
I would never wear my hair upwards
or in an Afro without covering it. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
No one sees this. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
I wouldn't go out on the street -
no one on the street | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
sees it like this. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
I always cover my bald
patch when I'm out, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
by wearing a wig or a hat. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
But it's not so easy for guys
to hide their hair loss. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:34 | |
Perry is 23, and first
started losing his hair | 0:42:34 | 0:42:35 | |
when he was a teenager. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
Hello, everyone. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:38 | |
My name is Perry and this
is Perry Presents. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:44 | |
He has male pattern baldness,
by far the most common form | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
of hair loss in men. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
So at times like this,
what do you do? | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
So I get my phone. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
And obviously I will
look like a mirror. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
OK, so you put your
phone and camera? | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Yeah. | 0:42:58 | 0:42:59 | |
And then I'll check it a bit. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
And obviously you can see now -
really bad, right? | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
Yeah. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:05 | |
And the wind makes it worse. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
So I have my brush. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:08 | |
Basically just do the same
thing again, restyle it. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
But to be honest with you,
in the wind, it's just life. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:17 | |
And until I get indoors,
that's just the way it is. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
Tidies it up and we'll
take another selfie. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
Love it! | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
There you go. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:25 | |
Speaking about it being just life,
how are you preparing yourself | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
for it becoming more
and more obvious? | 0:43:27 | 0:43:34 | |
I've kind of got to embrace it,
but at the same time it is quite | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
scary, because I'm like,
will people think differently of me? | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
Will it look really bad? | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
Do you feel like your hair,
to an extent, holds a core part | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
of your sort of personality
and who you are? | 0:43:45 | 0:43:50 | |
Yeah. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
My hair is me, that's how I feel. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
My personality, whatever I do
on YouTube, whatever | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
I do in everyday life,
it's always there and it's something | 0:43:57 | 0:44:03 | |
that I'm so self-conscious of. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:04 | |
If my hair is gone, I feel like I'm
becoming someone else, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
or someone different. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:08 | |
I guess it's a good thing
if you are being different. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
But at the same time it's a worry,
because what if someone | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
thinks differently of me? | 0:44:14 | 0:44:15 | |
What if someone isn't
attracted to me or likes me, | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
or I don't look good, as such? | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
You know what I mean? | 0:44:19 | 0:44:20 | |
I can tell Perry has thought
about his hair loss a lot, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
and worries about what he will look
like in the future. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
His dad lost his hair when he was
young and is now completely bald. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
In most men it will never grow back. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
But there are ways to sort it out. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
I'm in Manchester to see
a 28-year-old guy who is having | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
a hair transplant today. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
And I'll be meeting
the surgeon who is doing it. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
I'm really excited to see how
this is going to happen. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:48 | |
I'm Chedira. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:49 | |
Nice to meet you. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
Jordan started losing his
hair when he was 20. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
And this doctor has
been carrying out hair | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
transplants since the 1990s. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
Straighten your shoulders and turn
your neck all the way around. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
You're not particularly bothered
about bringing your hairline down, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
you want to have more density here. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
It's going to give you
the look that you want. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
The plan is to take hair
from the back of Jordan's head | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
and plant it in the thin
areas on top. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
I'm not going to lie. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:20 | |
First impression, I feel
like your hair loss is actually not | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
even that bad at all. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:24 | |
How do you feel about it? | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
How does it look to you? | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
Like you say, it's not too bad. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
But it's a weird one really. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
Obviously it affects so many men. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
Should it upset you? | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
It wasn't the worst feeling,
but also it knocks confidence | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
a little bit as well. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
Someone might look at me and say,
you're having a hair transplant, | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
do you really need it? | 0:45:45 | 0:45:46 | |
In some cases you might say no. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
It's how it makes you feel, I guess. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:53 | |
Jordan's transplant
will take all day. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
The procedure is becoming
increasingly popular, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:57 | |
but it isn't normally available
on the NHS. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:04 | |
It can cost anywhere
between £1000 and £30,000. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
The doctor will make small holes
in the top of Jordan's head. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
He'll then take healthy hairs
from the back to plant | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
in the thin areas on top. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:20 | |
So I'm going only as deep as we need
to go, which is where the roots sit, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
approximately about four millimetres
inside the skin. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:25 | |
Jordan just looks so chilled out. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
Honestly, it's really painless. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
They said before that it wouldn't be
as bad as the dentist. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
It definitely isn't. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:38 | |
We'll turn Jordan over, face down,
and then we'll start removing | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
the grafts from the back
of his head. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
And then once we have a certain
amount, we then can put | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
them back in, yeah? | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
During the procedure,
around 3000 hairs will be inserted | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
in the top of Jordan's head. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
What's it going to feel
like when you finally get up | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
and have a look at your hair? | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
It's a long road to see
what is going to be, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
but good, hopefully. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:06 | |
It'll take a long time
to see if Jordan's hair | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
transplant has been a success. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
But for an idea of what the results
might look like, I'm meeting a woman | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
who has had it done already. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:20 | |
Page had a hair transplant
a few months ago. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
She told her YouTube
followers all about it. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:30 | |
There is like no hair. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:31 | |
There's like really,
really small strands of hair. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
Her hair loss was down
to traction alopecia. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
It's when your hairstyle creates
tension on your scalp. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
For example, tight
braids or corn rows. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
It's what's caused my own hair loss. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:43 | |
My forehead probably
started like here. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
No way - you've got a new forehead! | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
I've got a new forehead. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
What?! | 0:47:49 | 0:47:50 | |
It looks so natural. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:51 | |
Yeah. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
Where exactly was
the initial hair loss? | 0:47:54 | 0:47:55 | |
On this side here. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:56 | |
As you can see, there
are still some hairs. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
I've kind of like brushed it down. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:00 | |
But all on this side. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
It was literally this whole
section up to like my ear. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:07 | |
What does it feel like when you look
at it and see that is | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
clearly missing hair? | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
What did it make you feel? | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
Do you know what? | 0:48:16 | 0:48:17 | |
I felt very like self-conscious
but I never told anybody. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
I never told anybody
my insecurities. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:21 | |
Not a single person knew about it? | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
No one actually knew, you know. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:24 | |
I felt like I was the only person
in the world going through this, | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
apart from the people on YouTube. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:29 | |
In the real world. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:30 | |
Yeah, in this real world, so that's
why I never spoke about it. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
Otherwise I would have
spoke about it sooner. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
And I wish I'd spoke
about it sooner. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
I wish I'd spoke about it
when it was first happening. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
I wish I was more open about it. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
I thought, I'm too
young for hair loss. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
I've just turned 25. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:47 | |
I've been experiencing
this since college. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:48 | |
I'm way too young
to be losing my hair. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
I feel like I was robbed. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:52 | |
And now you've reclaimed it! | 0:48:52 | 0:48:53 | |
Yeah. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
Your hair, your face -
it's beauty, especially to a female. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
And to guys, yeah,
hair is a big thing. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:07 | |
I know a lot of females probably
only find guys attractive, not just | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
because of the hairline,
but their hairline is attractive. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
When a man has got full
hair, it's attractive. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
Cutting all my hair and getting
a hair transplant, I have | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
so much more confidence. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:20 | |
I feel very empowered now. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:21 | |
I feel like sharing my story
was probably the biggest | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
thing I've ever done,
and probably the biggest | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
thing I ever will do. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:27 | |
I've got to admit, hair transplants
feel quite extreme to me. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:33 | |
I've tried looking online
for a solution for my bald patch. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
But it's all very confusing. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:37 | |
It looks like there are hundreds
of different techniques to try. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
So it's time to speak to someone
who really knows about hair loss. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
Nice to see you. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:44 | |
Ian is an expert who helps
people understand why | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
they are losing their hair. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:52 | |
95% of men, there is,
well, not major issues, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
but there are issues
with genetic predisposition. | 0:49:54 | 0:50:02 | |
Genetic hair loss can be
from the male or the female side. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
It doesn't have to come
through the male side | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
or the female side. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:09 | |
So it's non-sex linked. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:10 | |
They will come in and they will be
looking at hairlines | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
going, this has moved. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
And yes, from 16 to your mid-20s,
your hairline does move. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
It does change. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:17 | |
You get a mature hairline. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
But then there is change over
and above what it should. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
So if you're starting to become thin
there and everything else is normal, | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
that's usually genetic. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
Ian says there are only two
medications that can | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
help with hair loss. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:29 | |
Finasteride and minoxidil. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
The NHS says women shouldn't use
finasteride and neither drug | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
is available on the National Health
Service. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:42 | |
So when you start taking this
medication, it allows | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
the hair in some cases
to respond quite significantly. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
It may grow hair density back. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
I've heard though that
with medications like minoxidil, | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
once you start using it,
you've got to keep using it if you | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
want to keep seeing hair growth. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
Is that true? | 0:50:56 | 0:50:57 | |
Or can you use it just
once and that it? | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
So you do have to keep taking this
medication day after day after day. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
It's a treadmill medication. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
So there's no such thing
as a one-shot thing that will just | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
get rid of hair loss. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:08 | |
Hair loss can also be caused
by stress, weight loss, cancer | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
treatment or an unhealthy diet. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:12 | |
In some cases, your immune system
can attack your hair follicles. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
That's what is known
as alopecia areata. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:22 | |
I first noticed my hair loss
when I was about 19. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
Do you want to see
what it looks like? | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
Sure. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:28 | |
This is a wig, and I hide
behind this all the time. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
As you can see, I've got braids,
got lots of hair on my head, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:37 | |
but there's clearly a lot
missing here. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:39 | |
This is classed as a diffuse
thinning around here. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
It does look as though the follicles
have what's called atrophied, | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
which means some follicles
have died off. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
If you've cared for your hair
over a period of time | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
and it hasn't returned,
then the likelihood | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
is it's permanent. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
Most people hate hearing that. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
I didn't want to accept that my hair
is not going to grow back. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
So I've tried all kinds
of weird things I came | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
across on the internet. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
Apparently, if you bend all the way
down and massage your head | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
for like a minute in castor oil,
it will apparently make | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
your hair grow quicker. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:14 | |
It did not work. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:15 | |
There is Egyptian texts from 2000
BC that are remedies | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
and prayers for hair loss. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:24 | |
If there was something natural out
there, we would know about it. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:29 | |
Thank you, Ian. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:30 | |
I've learned so much. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:31 | |
No problem. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
You know what, hearing that my hair
loss is at a permanent stage, | 0:52:35 | 0:52:40 | |
I'm not going to lie,
it's super disappointing. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
Even though I did know somewhere
at the back of my mind that it's | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
not going to grow back. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:49 | |
But I really hoped I'd be told that
if I just used this one | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
thing, it would grow back. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
But now that I know,
I guess I've got closure, | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
and what I'm going to do now is just
embrace it and accept it. | 0:52:56 | 0:53:00 | |
I've met some really
interesting people recently, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
who all have different ways
of dealing with their hair loss. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:07 | |
You're in the studio with your full
natural hair out, looking amazing. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
Let's talk about it. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
A month ago, I would never
have even left the house | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
without covering my head,
but that's now changed. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
Today I've decided I'm
going to come in without a wig | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
on and allow my head to breathe,
allow myself to feel worthy. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
You look amazing. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:24 | |
Hair loss is a massive
deal to people. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:31 | |
And since filming this,
I've seen people who have hidden it, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
I've seen people who have treated
it, I've seen people | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
who have embraced it. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
Now for me this process
has definitely taught | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
me to just accept it. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:42 | |
Since then I've started
going out with my natural | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
hair a lot more often,
and learned to make | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
peace with my hair loss. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:48 | |
And now I just feel liberated. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:56 | |
And you can watch a full
version of Radio 1 Newsbeat's | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
documentary, Too Young To Go Bald,
on the BBC iPlayer. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:28 | |
Thank you for your messages. Graham
says, I lost my hair suddenly at 29, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:34 | |
it was alopecia with bald patches
appearing on my head, and soon I was | 0:54:34 | 0:54:40 | |
completely bald and eventually her
less. I'm 47 now and fine with it | 0:54:40 | 0:54:46 | |
but at the time it was very
distressing. Everything I read about | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
coping with alopecia was written by
women and started with the words, it | 0:54:50 | 0:54:55 | |
is OK for men. It did not feel OK to
me, I felt like I was falling apart. | 0:54:55 | 0:55:01 | |
Paul says the easiest answer is the
number one shave, he says he started | 0:55:01 | 0:55:07 | |
losing his hair at 13. This woman
says, I am in my 70s, just as | 0:55:07 | 0:55:12 | |
devastating to lose your hair at
that time of life, age matters not. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:16 | |
I am so embarrassed I cannot go out
without wearing a hat. We will talk | 0:55:16 | 0:55:21 | |
more about this issue in the next
hour. Send us your own experiences. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:26 | |
Breaking news on the latest
inflation figures. Our economics | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
editor is here. Remind us what
inflation is. It is the increase in | 0:55:30 | 0:55:36 | |
prices, what people are spending to
buy things in shops and the bills | 0:55:36 | 0:55:42 | |
and today quite a significant
reduction in the rate of increase, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
not that prices are falling,
inflation was up 3%, the Office for | 0:55:45 | 0:55:52 | |
National Statistics has announced it
has gone down to 2.7%. It means | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
prices are rising less quickly than
they were. The main reasons of food | 0:55:56 | 0:56:02 | |
prices are going up less quickly,
fuel prices going up less quickly | 0:56:02 | 0:56:07 | |
than a year ago, a locked link to
the value of the pound because we | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
import a lot of what we buy, a weak
pound after the Brexit referendum | 0:56:10 | 0:56:16 | |
and the costs went up, the pound has
been strengthening, meaning the | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
imports are less expensive and it is
feeding through now to people's real | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
lives. Good news that prices are not
going up as fast as they were. And a | 0:56:24 | 0:56:29 | |
report out today again talking about
prices but post-Brexit from the | 0:56:29 | 0:56:35 | |
Institute for Fiscal Studies. They
are saying that once Britain is out | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
of the customs union, the customs
union has import taxes around the | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
border, if we abandon old Paris, all
the import taxes, that could lead to | 0:56:42 | 0:56:51 | |
a small reduction in prices for
people, about 1.2%. -- if we abandon | 0:56:51 | 0:56:56 | |
tariffs. The IFS points out prices
have ready by 2% because of the fall | 0:56:56 | 0:57:03 | |
in the value of sterling and the
cost of doing business with the EU | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
will be more expensive once we are
out of the customs union, so | 0:57:07 | 0:57:12 | |
although abandoning import taxes
would be good for consumers in a | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
small way, that good will be
outweighed by the cost of inflation | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
we have seen since the referendum
and the cost of doing business with | 0:57:19 | 0:57:23 | |
the EU which is our biggest export
partner. Thank you very much. The | 0:57:23 | 0:57:29 | |
latest news and sport in a moment,
before that, the weather. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
latest news and sport in a moment,
before that, the weather. Not as | 0:57:33 | 0:57:37 | |
cold a start to the day as of late.
The forecast is less cold than it | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
has been and for many of us, sunny
spells, but also cloud in the | 0:57:41 | 0:57:46 | |
forecast, quite a bit at the moment
across parts of England and Wales, | 0:57:46 | 0:57:51 | |
eastern Scotland as well, courtesy
of the weak weather front drifting | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
steadily west through the day,
continuing to weaken, but it will | 0:57:55 | 0:57:59 | |
still be thick enough, the cloud, to
produce patchy light rain and | 0:57:59 | 0:58:03 | |
drizzle. You can see the extent of
the cloud cover, out in the | 0:58:03 | 0:58:08 | |
Atlantic, a weather front waiting to
come our way, that will be later | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
today, producing some rain by the
end of tonight. This morning, as the | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
front pushes to the west, it will
brighten up behind it, across East | 0:58:16 | 0:58:21 | |
Anglia, the south-east, Southern
counties, but also across Wales, | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
north-west England, Scotland and
Northern Ireland, you can expect | 0:58:24 | 0:58:28 | |
some sunshine. Temperatures around
eight up to ten, if we are lucky. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
You can already see the cloud
thickening across the Outer | 0:58:32 | 0:58:36 | |
Hebrides. This evening and
overnight, the weather front proved | 0:58:36 | 0:58:41 | |
tee edges in over Northern Ireland,
Scotland and northern England -- the | 0:58:41 | 0:58:45 | |
weather front edges in. Train will
arrive by the end of the night. For | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
the rest of England and Wales, a
cold night and clearer skies. There | 0:58:48 | 0:58:53 | |
could be patchy freezing fog and
there will also be a widespread | 0:58:53 | 0:58:57 | |
frost. These temperatures represent
towns and cities. As we head into | 0:58:57 | 0:59:06 | |
Wednesday, look how the blues our
place to buy | 0:59:06 | 0:59:18 | |
place to buy yellow, and -- to blues
are replaced by yellow. Tomorrow, | 0:59:19 | 0:59:24 | |
sunshine over England and Wales. The
weather from producing cloud ahead | 0:59:24 | 0:59:29 | |
of the rain, the rain crossing
Northern Ireland and Scotland | 0:59:29 | 0:59:33 | |
through the day. 11 in Aberdeen, a
while since we have seen that. As we | 0:59:33 | 0:59:37 | |
move into Thursday, the weather
front continues to push into the | 0:59:37 | 0:59:44 | |
Southeast, eventually clearing, a
lot of dry weather, sunshine and | 0:59:44 | 0:59:47 | |
East hanging on for the longest,
because in the West and active | 0:59:47 | 0:59:52 | |
weather front is coming our way,
heavy rain across Northern Ireland, | 0:59:52 | 0:59:57 | |
Scotland, eventually parts of West
Wales and the south-west. The cloud | 0:59:57 | 1:00:00 | |
building ahead of it. Look at the
temperatures. Nine up to 12, | 1:00:00 | 1:00:06 | |
possibly even 13. | 1:00:06 | 1:00:10 | |
Hello, it's 10 o'clock,
I'm Victoria Derbyshire. | 1:00:10 | 1:00:15 | |
Welcome to the programme. | 1:00:16 | 1:00:17 | |
Honey traps, spies and fake news -
just some of the dirty tricks | 1:00:17 | 1:00:20 | |
Cambridge Analytica executives
boasted of using to swing elections | 1:00:20 | 1:00:22 | |
to an undercover reporter. | 1:00:22 | 1:00:30 | |
Deep digging is interesting, it can
be deeply effective to just go and | 1:00:30 | 1:00:38 | |
speak to the incumbents and to offer
them a deal that is too good to be | 1:00:38 | 1:00:46 | |
true and make sure that its video
recorded. These sorts of tactics are | 1:00:46 | 1:00:51 | |
very effective. Instantly having
video evidence of corruption, | 1:00:51 | 1:00:55 | |
putting it on the Internet. | 1:00:55 | 1:00:57 | |
The Information Commissioner
will be talking to us | 1:00:57 | 1:00:59 | |
about why she's investigating
in the next few minutes. | 1:00:59 | 1:01:01 | |
Should clubbers be given access
to drugs testing areas to prevent | 1:01:01 | 1:01:04 | |
ecstasy and cocaine-related deaths? | 1:01:04 | 1:01:10 | |
What that does is take the very
harmful, dangerous drugs out of the | 1:01:10 | 1:01:14 | |
market. At the moment, while drug
use is pretty constant, drug deaths | 1:01:14 | 1:01:20 | |
are up. Hospitalisations are up and
there is a huge cost to the NHS and | 1:01:20 | 1:01:24 | |
police. | 1:01:24 | 1:01:24 | |
We'll ask users whether they think
introducing safe testing spots | 1:01:24 | 1:01:26 | |
at popular nightspots will work. | 1:01:26 | 1:01:28 | |
And we want to hear
your thoughts too. | 1:01:28 | 1:01:30 | |
And we'll hear about the impact
of going bald when you're | 1:01:30 | 1:01:33 | |
young from Paigey Cakey,
a rapper from north London | 1:01:33 | 1:01:35 | |
who was 18 when she first started
to notice her hair was falling out. | 1:01:35 | 1:01:43 | |
I felt like I'm too young for her
loss, I have just turned 25, I have | 1:01:43 | 1:01:49 | |
experienced this since college, I am
way too young to be losing my hair. | 1:01:49 | 1:01:55 | |
Good morning. | 1:01:55 | 1:01:56 | |
Here's Annita McVeigh
in the BBC Newsroom | 1:01:56 | 1:01:58 | |
with a summary of today's news. | 1:01:58 | 1:02:02 | |
Good morning. | 1:02:02 | 1:02:04 | |
A British company accused
of misusing personal data belonging | 1:02:04 | 1:02:07 | |
to 50 million Facebook users
is being investigated | 1:02:07 | 1:02:09 | |
by the information watchdog. | 1:02:09 | 1:02:10 | |
The UK's Information Commissioner
says she will seek a warrant to look | 1:02:10 | 1:02:12 | |
at databases and servers hosted
by Cambridge Analytica. | 1:02:12 | 1:02:16 | |
The firm is accused of using
Facebook data without consent | 1:02:16 | 1:02:18 | |
to influence the outcome
of the last US election. | 1:02:18 | 1:02:22 | |
Both Cambridge Analytica
and Facebook deny any wrongdoing. | 1:02:22 | 1:02:27 | |
Cambridge Analytica executives have
also been filmed by Channel 4 News | 1:02:27 | 1:02:30 | |
suggesting it could use honey traps
and potentially bribery | 1:02:30 | 1:02:32 | |
to discredit politicians. | 1:02:32 | 1:02:38 | |
The company denies any wrongdoing. | 1:02:38 | 1:02:46 | |
The government's latest figures show
that UK inflation rate has fallen to | 1:03:14 | 1:03:19 | |
2.7% in February from 3% in January.
Inflation figures are calculated by | 1:03:19 | 1:03:23 | |
tracking the prices we pay for
hundreds of things we currently | 1:03:23 | 1:03:27 | |
spend money one, including
groceries. The target for CPI is 2%. | 1:03:27 | 1:03:32 | |
Consumers could see prices fall
by up to 1.2% if Britain | 1:03:32 | 1:03:35 | |
were to abolish all tariffs once it
has left the European Union. | 1:03:35 | 1:03:37 | |
The findings are in
a report by the financial | 1:03:37 | 1:03:40 | |
think tank the Institute
for Fiscal Studies. | 1:03:40 | 1:03:41 | |
But the independent report also
warns that any gains would be small | 1:03:41 | 1:03:44 | |
and that costs linked to new EU
trade barriers could hit consumers. | 1:03:44 | 1:03:50 | |
Jeremy Corbyn has said the UK must
still deal with Vladimir Putin - | 1:03:50 | 1:03:53 | |
despite evidence pointing
to his country's involvement | 1:03:53 | 1:03:55 | |
in the Salisbury spy attack. | 1:03:55 | 1:03:58 | |
The Labour leader said he would do
business with Russia, | 1:03:58 | 1:04:00 | |
but assertively and on the basis
of the UK's values. | 1:04:00 | 1:04:05 | |
Shadow Chancellor John
McDonnell says he believes | 1:04:05 | 1:04:06 | |
Mr Putin was responsible. | 1:04:06 | 1:04:08 | |
But Mr Corbyn said he wanted
an absolutely definitive answer | 1:04:08 | 1:04:11 | |
about the source of the nerve agent. | 1:04:11 | 1:04:15 | |
That's a summary of
the latest BBC News. | 1:04:15 | 1:04:17 | |
More at 10.30am. | 1:04:17 | 1:04:25 | |
One viewer on Twitter says about
hair loss, I lost huge amounts of | 1:04:25 | 1:04:30 | |
hair during my battle with anorexia.
It is such an alienating effect. I | 1:04:30 | 1:04:35 | |
was lucky enough for it to grow back
and one of the things that really | 1:04:35 | 1:04:39 | |
aided its regrowth was caffeinated
shampoo. | 1:04:39 | 1:04:42 | |
Christopher Arnie Mel says I lost a
lot of hair at a very young age. I | 1:04:42 | 1:04:46 | |
was 11. A condition which was a
variant of alopecia. It was very | 1:04:46 | 1:04:54 | |
distressing because I was just
coming into adolescence and was very | 1:04:54 | 1:04:57 | |
proud of my bright auburn hair. It
came back within four months. | 1:04:57 | 1:05:04 | |
Peter on e-mail, baldness, just live
with it, only shallow people worry | 1:05:04 | 1:05:08 | |
about it. I wonder if you are bald
or have a full head of hair. | 1:05:08 | 1:05:11 | |
Julie says I don't doubt the effect
it has personally but I think of | 1:05:11 | 1:05:17 | |
cancer patients who go through hair
loss and so much worse as treatment | 1:05:17 | 1:05:20 | |
for the cruel disease and I can't
help but think it is not so worse | 1:05:20 | 1:05:24 | |
when it happens gradually and
naturally, often part of your jeans. | 1:05:24 | 1:05:29 | |
-- genes. | 1:05:29 | 1:05:30 | |
Do get in touch with us
throughout the morning - | 1:05:30 | 1:05:33 | |
use the hashtag #VictoriaLive. | 1:05:33 | 1:05:34 | |
If you text, you will be charged
at the standard network rate. | 1:05:34 | 1:05:37 | |
Here's some sport now with Jessica. | 1:05:37 | 1:05:38 | |
Thank you, Victoria. | 1:05:38 | 1:05:40 | |
A former top tennis player has
described the seeding rules | 1:05:40 | 1:05:42 | |
in women's tennis as "punishment"
for players like Serena Williams | 1:05:42 | 1:05:44 | |
who return to the sport
after having a baby. | 1:05:44 | 1:05:47 | |
Williams ranking dropped from world
number one to 491 during her 13 | 1:05:47 | 1:05:49 | |
months maternity leave. | 1:05:49 | 1:05:51 | |
Due to her low ranking,
she will play a tougher opponent | 1:05:51 | 1:05:58 | |
James Blake, the director of the
Miami Open, say she leads be | 1:06:03 | 1:06:07 | |
protected. | 1:06:07 | 1:06:09 | |
Due to her low ranking,
she will play a tougher opponent | 1:06:09 | 1:06:12 | |
earlier on in a tournament,
rather than in the latter | 1:06:12 | 1:06:14 | |
stages, making it more
difficult for her to win. | 1:06:14 | 1:06:17 | |
The Women's Tennis Association said
recently they are "very supportive | 1:06:21 | 1:06:24 | |
of those players returning
from pregnancy," and the rules | 1:06:24 | 1:06:26 | |
will be "further reviewed." | 1:06:26 | 1:06:29 | |
Also in Miami is Roger Federer -
he could lose his world number one | 1:06:29 | 1:06:32 | |
ranking if he fails to reach
the quarter finals. | 1:06:32 | 1:06:34 | |
He says he will continue his
strategy of being selective over | 1:06:34 | 1:06:37 | |
which tournaments he plays. | 1:06:37 | 1:06:38 | |
The 36-year-old missed much
of the clay court season last year | 1:06:38 | 1:06:41 | |
to preserve his longevity but has
been in fine form in 2018, only | 1:06:41 | 1:06:44 | |
losing his first match on Sunday. | 1:06:44 | 1:06:52 | |
Maybe our generation of tennis is
much more taxing and more intense, | 1:06:54 | 1:06:58 | |
more brutal and all that stuff. I
don't know how much more I have | 1:06:58 | 1:07:03 | |
lasted me but I am enjoying my time
right now at the top, I can't | 1:07:03 | 1:07:07 | |
believe I am back to world number
one. I have just had another | 1:07:07 | 1:07:10 | |
fabulous start to the year. We will
see what the year brings but I need | 1:07:10 | 1:07:14 | |
to be selective in which tournaments
I can and should play. Many more | 1:07:14 | 1:07:18 | |
years left in him, we hope. | 1:07:18 | 1:07:20 | |
Meanwhile, already in Miami,
Britons Katie Boulter, | 1:07:20 | 1:07:21 | |
Liam Broady and Cameron Norrie
all won in the first | 1:07:21 | 1:07:24 | |
round of qualifying
but Naomi Broady lost. | 1:07:24 | 1:07:32 | |
Cricket and Ben Stokes has taken
full part in training for the first | 1:07:32 | 1:07:36 | |
test against New Zealand on Friday.
The England all-rounder was unable | 1:07:36 | 1:07:39 | |
to bowl in the warm up and Hamilton
because of its stiff back then was | 1:07:39 | 1:07:44 | |
restricted by rain to training
indoors on Monday. | 1:07:44 | 1:07:47 | |
Craig Overton could be called up if
Stokes is not fit. | 1:07:47 | 1:07:50 | |
It be an interesting couple of days,
I just had to put in the preparation | 1:07:50 | 1:07:55 | |
to be ready for the first game of
the call-up comes. | 1:07:55 | 1:07:57 | |
I am fit, I missed two days with a
sore quad, it was just unfortunate. | 1:07:57 | 1:08:04 | |
I played the last few days and it
has been really good since then. | 1:08:04 | 1:08:08 | |
South African back row Uzair Cassiem
will join Pro 14 champion | 1:08:08 | 1:08:11 | |
Scarlets for next season. | 1:08:11 | 1:08:12 | |
With Scotland captain John Barclay
leaving to join Edinburgh, | 1:08:12 | 1:08:14 | |
the Llanelli-based side have acted
quickly to bring in | 1:08:14 | 1:08:16 | |
the Cheetah's number eight. | 1:08:16 | 1:08:20 | |
Head coach Wayne Pivac has
described him as a "very | 1:08:20 | 1:08:22 | |
physical individual." | 1:08:22 | 1:08:25 | |
That is all the sport for now,
headlines at 10:30am. | 1:08:30 | 1:08:33 | |
Planting fake news, spying
on rivals, hiring "beautiful | 1:08:33 | 1:08:35 | |
Ukranian girls" to set a honey trap
- just a few of the things the boss | 1:08:35 | 1:08:39 | |
of the world's most controversial
election campaign consultants talked | 1:08:39 | 1:08:44 | |
about when filmed talking
to a possible client who was, | 1:08:44 | 1:08:47 | |
in reality, a Channel 4
News undercover reporter. | 1:08:47 | 1:08:55 | |
This comes a day after claims that
that company, London based | 1:09:50 | 1:09:53 | |
Cambridge Analytica,
had used the private data | 1:09:53 | 1:09:54 | |
of 50 million people
without their permission in order | 1:09:54 | 1:09:57 | |
to influence the US presidential
election in favour of Donald Trump. | 1:09:57 | 1:10:05 | |
And not just 50 million people, 50
million Facebook users. | 1:10:05 | 1:10:09 | |
Last night Alexander Nix,
the firm's chief executive, told | 1:10:09 | 1:10:12 | |
Newsnight they'd been targeted
simply because of their role | 1:10:12 | 1:10:13 | |
in the US election. | 1:10:13 | 1:10:15 | |
We see this as a coordinated attack
by the media that has been going on | 1:10:15 | 1:10:20 | |
for very many months in order to
damage the company that had some | 1:10:20 | 1:10:29 | |
involvement with the election of
Donald Trump. | 1:10:29 | 1:10:34 | |
We maybe undertook this meeting and
spoke with a certain amount of | 1:10:34 | 1:10:37 | |
hyperbole about some of the things
that we do, but what we were trying | 1:10:37 | 1:10:41 | |
to do was to elicit from the
undercover reporter the true | 1:10:41 | 1:10:45 | |
intentions of the meeting. These
meetings started out as very bona | 1:10:45 | 1:10:50 | |
fides philanthropic requests for
services to help in the country of | 1:10:50 | 1:10:58 | |
Sri Lanka, to help make it a better
country and to help spread the | 1:10:58 | 1:11:03 | |
wealth through projects of
information technology and health | 1:11:03 | 1:11:05 | |
care. By the time I joined the
meetings the undercover reporter | 1:11:05 | 1:11:10 | |
pivoted them search that he was
asking us about entrapping political | 1:11:10 | 1:11:16 | |
officials, the use of honey traps
and all sorts of other behaviour. | 1:11:16 | 1:11:26 | |
The Information Commissioner,
Elizabeth Denham, is now applying | 1:11:26 | 1:11:28 | |
for a warrant to search the offices
of Cambridge Analytica. | 1:11:28 | 1:11:31 | |
She joins us now from Cheshire. | 1:11:31 | 1:11:32 | |
And in Southampton is
Dr Victoria Baines - | 1:11:32 | 1:11:34 | |
who until November last year
was Facebook's Trust | 1:11:34 | 1:11:36 | |
and Safety Manager for Europe. | 1:11:36 | 1:11:37 | |
She is now a visiting fellow
at Oxford Internet Institute. | 1:11:37 | 1:11:44 | |
Thank you both for talking to us.
Elizabeth Denham, you are having to | 1:11:45 | 1:11:48 | |
apply for a warrant because you are
not able to access Cambridge | 1:11:48 | 1:11:53 | |
Analytica's offices yesterday? That
is correct. The allegations about | 1:11:53 | 1:12:00 | |
the use of Facebook data is one
strand of a broader investigation | 1:12:00 | 1:12:06 | |
that our office is doing into use of
personal data for elections and | 1:12:06 | 1:12:12 | |
campaigns. We are unable to get
cooperation from Cambridge | 1:12:12 | 1:12:16 | |
Analytica. We need to get to the
bottom of what happened with this | 1:12:16 | 1:12:22 | |
personal data affecting citizens
across the world and we are going to | 1:12:22 | 1:12:27 | |
proceed with a warrant to be able to
search the servers and premises. Why | 1:12:27 | 1:12:32 | |
wouldn't they let you win? That is a
question you should ask Cambridge | 1:12:32 | 1:12:40 | |
Analytica. Why do you think? We are
using all the tools. Again, a | 1:12:40 | 1:12:47 | |
question for them. We need to get in
to find out on behalf of the public | 1:12:47 | 1:12:50 | |
what has happened to this data. It
is controversial because there are | 1:12:50 | 1:12:57 | |
many statements, contradictory
statements, about who had the data, | 1:12:57 | 1:13:00 | |
how long they had it, whether it was
deleted. Because Cambridge Analytica | 1:13:00 | 1:13:04 | |
operates in the UK they are subject
to UK data protection law, which we | 1:13:04 | 1:13:12 | |
oversee.
Do you think it is too late applying | 1:13:12 | 1:13:15 | |
for this warrant, because it will
take time? Cambridge Analytica | 1:13:15 | 1:13:19 | |
already know you want to get into
their premises to search the | 1:13:19 | 1:13:22 | |
property at their servers and
Facebook have already been in? | 1:13:22 | 1:13:29 | |
Facebook started as search last
night at our request. They withdrew | 1:13:29 | 1:13:33 | |
their contractors at our request. We
need to get in there. We are looking | 1:13:33 | 1:13:38 | |
at Facebook and their conduct in
whether or not data was properly | 1:13:38 | 1:13:43 | |
secured on the platforms. Sorry to
interrupt but it is possible that | 1:13:43 | 1:13:49 | |
potential evidence you want to see
has already been tampered with? We | 1:13:49 | 1:13:56 | |
don't know. Again, we need to get
in... But it is possible? We are | 1:13:56 | 1:14:02 | |
going through the process, it is
possible. We are using all the tools | 1:14:02 | 1:14:08 | |
available to be able to investigate
this issue on behalf of UK citizens. | 1:14:08 | 1:14:14 | |
I spoke earlier to Labour's Liam
Byrne, the Shadow Digital Minister. | 1:14:14 | 1:14:22 | |
He Is Concerned About Your Powers. | 1:14:22 | 1:14:29 | |
My number one concern is I don't
think the Information | 1:14:29 | 1:14:32 | |
Commissioner has the power
to do the investigation. | 1:14:32 | 1:14:33 | |
We've described this new online
world as the Wild West | 1:14:33 | 1:14:36 | |
and what we have is a sheriff
without the tools to do the job. | 1:14:36 | 1:14:39 | |
The fact that she has to go to court
in order to get a warrant, | 1:14:39 | 1:14:43 | |
basically gives companies
like Cambridge Analytica loads | 1:14:43 | 1:14:45 | |
and loads of notice which they can
use to do all kind of things - | 1:14:45 | 1:14:48 | |
destroy all kinds of data,
hide all kind of records | 1:14:48 | 1:14:51 | |
that might be needed. | 1:14:51 | 1:14:52 | |
So the reality is we now need
to give the Information Commissioner | 1:14:52 | 1:14:54 | |
something like a digital search
warrant that allows her to go | 1:14:54 | 1:14:57 | |
in very quickly to get the evidence
she needs to bring prosecution | 1:14:57 | 1:15:00 | |
where they are needed. | 1:15:00 | 1:15:07 | |
You are like a Sherrock without the
tools to do the job. How likely is | 1:15:07 | 1:15:11 | |
it that evidence will have been
tampered with? | 1:15:11 | 1:15:19 | |
That is a question we are seeking to
answer. | 1:15:21 | 1:15:24 | |
That is a question we are seeking to
answer. You used to work for | 1:15:24 | 1:15:29 | |
Facebook, you were their trust and
safety manager for Europe, Facebook | 1:15:29 | 1:15:34 | |
says they have done nothing wrong,
have they? Good morning. Well, I am | 1:15:34 | 1:15:40 | |
not sited on the specifics of this
particular case from Facebook's | 1:15:40 | 1:15:46 | |
perspective, but I can tell you
certainly large tech companies like | 1:15:46 | 1:15:52 | |
Facebook and Google, they take their
role as data guardians, protectors | 1:15:52 | 1:15:56 | |
of people's data, very seriously. Do
they really? If that is true... They | 1:15:56 | 1:16:06 | |
do, yes. How come the personal
information of up to 50 million | 1:16:06 | 1:16:10 | |
users has ended up being potentially
used by a company that did not pay | 1:16:10 | 1:16:15 | |
for it to influence the US
presidential election? I think this | 1:16:15 | 1:16:20 | |
is a really important point. Let us
unpack this. From the information | 1:16:20 | 1:16:24 | |
that has been released publicly,
what appears to have happened is | 1:16:24 | 1:16:28 | |
that people have shared their data
voluntarily with Aaron app and that | 1:16:28 | 1:16:33 | |
is not with Facebook, with a
third-party -- with the app. From | 1:16:33 | 1:16:39 | |
what we appear to know by now, that
data has been misused, used for a | 1:16:39 | 1:16:45 | |
purpose not originally intended and
not communicated with the people who | 1:16:45 | 1:16:48 | |
signed up it. And I think it is
really important to raise this | 1:16:48 | 1:16:53 | |
awareness because people do not
always know when they sign up for | 1:16:53 | 1:16:56 | |
these apps that they should be
checking the data use policies. We | 1:16:56 | 1:17:02 | |
have new legislation coming in in
the next few months that the | 1:17:02 | 1:17:05 | |
commissioner will be fully aware of,
the general data protection | 1:17:05 | 1:17:09 | |
regulation, and what it will do is
make companies much more responsible | 1:17:09 | 1:17:15 | |
for the data they hold and also
communicating to people what they | 1:17:15 | 1:17:19 | |
are doing with it. They will be
required to communicate that much | 1:17:19 | 1:17:23 | |
more clearly. Companies like large
social media sites, they have been | 1:17:23 | 1:17:27 | |
investing a lot of time and effort
into updating their data use | 1:17:27 | 1:17:32 | |
policies and communicating that to
people. What concerns me... | 1:17:32 | 1:17:37 | |
Companies like Cambridge Analytica,
smaller companies, they might not be | 1:17:37 | 1:17:42 | |
as compliant with the law and
obviously that is a matter for the | 1:17:42 | 1:17:46 | |
commissioner. This app, the people
using it, they agree their data can | 1:17:46 | 1:17:50 | |
be collected, then the app collected
the data of their Facebook friends, | 1:17:50 | 1:17:56 | |
potentially how they got data of up
to 50 million people, Facebook | 1:17:56 | 1:18:00 | |
allows the collection of friends'
data to quote user experience | 1:18:00 | 1:18:04 | |
although it sounds it from being
sold or used for advertising. Should | 1:18:04 | 1:18:08 | |
it ban the collection of data of
friends? That is quite an | 1:18:08 | 1:18:16 | |
interesting ethical question. What
would you say? Facebook allows the | 1:18:16 | 1:18:21 | |
collection of the data to improve
its own services, the BBC will be | 1:18:21 | 1:18:25 | |
using that data to improve its news
offering per Facebook users and | 1:18:25 | 1:18:31 | |
their friends, there are some
perfectly legitimate reasons why | 1:18:31 | 1:18:34 | |
that might be done. You could ask,
do we need to get more granular, | 1:18:34 | 1:18:39 | |
down into the weeds, about what it
is used for and for what purpose, | 1:18:39 | 1:18:45 | |
how long it is stored? That is what
the new legislation is about. But | 1:18:45 | 1:18:50 | |
what I would encourage people to do
who are on Facebook and other social | 1:18:50 | 1:18:54 | |
media sites, have a look at the
policies. They are communicated in | 1:18:54 | 1:19:00 | |
quite clear language, I think. But
also go to the information | 1:19:00 | 1:19:07 | |
commissioner's office, the website,
they state the rights in relation to | 1:19:07 | 1:19:10 | |
your personal data. If you are
checking the app, if you are invited | 1:19:10 | 1:19:16 | |
to take part in a psychology test,
you would not hand that data over to | 1:19:16 | 1:19:21 | |
somebody in the street, if they
asked you for your name, location, | 1:19:21 | 1:19:25 | |
date of birth. Take a step back and
think, does this feel legitimate, | 1:19:25 | 1:19:30 | |
does it smell right? If it does not
smell right, it isn't. | 1:19:30 | 1:19:38 | |
smell right, it isn't. Information
Commissioner, now applying for a | 1:19:38 | 1:19:40 | |
warrant to search the offices of
Cambridge Analytica, you said he was | 1:19:40 | 1:19:45 | |
seeking to find the answer to
whether evidence could have | 1:19:45 | 1:19:48 | |
potentially been tampered with, how
likely do you think that is? We will | 1:19:48 | 1:19:54 | |
have to see, if we get into the
premises, and we have forensic | 1:19:54 | 1:19:59 | |
experts that will be able to search
the servers and we have a blueprint | 1:19:59 | 1:20:04 | |
of the data on the servers. That
will help us. But what is getting | 1:20:04 | 1:20:10 | |
lost in this discussion is the basic
point that the new data protection | 1:20:10 | 1:20:15 | |
rules that are coming in in May will
give people more rights and | 1:20:15 | 1:20:20 | |
companies will have more
responsibilities to take care of | 1:20:20 | 1:20:24 | |
people's data. And we need to ensure
that they understand how data is | 1:20:24 | 1:20:29 | |
used and that this is not buried,
the notifications, in terms of | 1:20:29 | 1:20:35 | |
service so the law requires clear
unambiguous consent for the sharing | 1:20:35 | 1:20:40 | |
of data, the law also gives powers
for us to prosecute individuals and | 1:20:40 | 1:20:47 | |
organisations that have played fast
and loose with people's personal | 1:20:47 | 1:20:51 | |
information. And our office is here
to oversee that. It is retrospective | 1:20:51 | 1:20:57 | |
or does it come in in May? In May, I
will have powers of inspection which | 1:20:57 | 1:21:04 | |
means knock on the door and go in.
There are more significant fines for | 1:21:04 | 1:21:10 | |
getting this wrong against
organisations. Mandatory data breach | 1:21:10 | 1:21:14 | |
notification, all of these tools are
really helpful for users, it is for | 1:21:14 | 1:21:19 | |
individuals, for consumers. Thank
you very much for your time. The | 1:21:19 | 1:21:25 | |
Information Commissioner. And
Victoria, who until last year was | 1:21:25 | 1:21:28 | |
Facebook's trust manager for Europe
and she is now a visiting fellow at | 1:21:28 | 1:21:32 | |
the Oxford institute. | 1:21:32 | 1:21:35 | |
Still to come... Police are asking
the public to become | 1:21:35 | 1:21:42 | |
counterterrorism citizens. | 1:21:42 | 1:21:48 | |
counterterrorism citizens. We will
talk to people who have already done | 1:21:48 | 1:21:50 | |
that. | 1:21:50 | 1:21:52 | |
The world's last surviving male
northern white rhino has died, | 1:21:52 | 1:21:55 | |
bringing the species
to the brink of extiction. | 1:21:55 | 1:21:57 | |
Sudan, who lived in Kenya, was put
to sleep on Monday after age-related | 1:21:57 | 1:22:00 | |
complications worsened. | 1:22:00 | 1:22:03 | |
Last year the BBC ran a documentary
about Sudan and the battle | 1:23:00 | 1:23:02 | |
to save his species. | 1:23:02 | 1:23:04 | |
Here's an extract -
you can see him alongside | 1:23:04 | 1:23:06 | |
Zachary Mutai, his keeper
of eight years. | 1:23:06 | 1:23:14 | |
I'm just applying mud on his body. | 1:23:15 | 1:23:18 | |
This helps to cool his
body temperature down. | 1:23:18 | 1:23:20 | |
He loves that. | 1:23:20 | 1:23:22 | |
We really take great care of him,
just like elderly people. | 1:23:22 | 1:23:26 | |
He's doing fine. | 1:23:26 | 1:23:28 | |
But anything might
happen at any time. | 1:23:28 | 1:23:36 | |
This is very serious. | 1:23:38 | 1:23:40 | |
Something needs to be done. | 1:23:40 | 1:23:41 | |
I'm now joined in the studio
by Richard Vine, who runs | 1:23:41 | 1:23:47 | |
the Ol Pejeta Conservancy in Kenya,
where Sudan lived. | 1:23:47 | 1:23:53 | |
And via webcam we can speak
to Colin Butfield from the WWF. | 1:23:53 | 1:23:59 | |
Tell us first of all about Sudan and
why the news of his death is so | 1:23:59 | 1:24:05 | |
significant. Sudan was the last
remaining northern white rhino, | 1:24:05 | 1:24:13 | |
male, left on the planet. For that
reason, his death is significant. | 1:24:13 | 1:24:18 | |
For a long time now, there have only
been three left of that particular | 1:24:18 | 1:24:23 | |
species, some people argue it is a
subspecies, but that is | 1:24:23 | 1:24:27 | |
inconsequential in many ways. This
species has been hunted to | 1:24:27 | 1:24:31 | |
extinction and the chances of
recovering the species are Mote, | 1:24:31 | 1:24:36 | |
although possibilities through
so-called artificial reproductive | 1:24:36 | 1:24:38 | |
techniques still exist -- remote. It
is a sad moment, he has been with us | 1:24:38 | 1:24:45 | |
for eight years. He has become a
good friend. He was very old, it was | 1:24:45 | 1:24:51 | |
inevitable sooner or later this day
would come. You say he had become a | 1:24:51 | 1:24:56 | |
good friend, what do you mean? He
had been in captivity since the late | 1:24:56 | 1:25:00 | |
70s, he was captured in the Sudan.
At the time, they were capturing | 1:25:00 | 1:25:06 | |
rhinos for circuses and he ended up
in a zoo in the Czech Republic so he | 1:25:06 | 1:25:11 | |
is very acquainted with human beings
and he was very... He was incredibly | 1:25:11 | 1:25:18 | |
patient, incredibly docile, full of
character, and easily approachable | 1:25:18 | 1:25:22 | |
by human beings. His keepers
particularly who had lived with him | 1:25:22 | 1:25:26 | |
for the period he was with us, they
treated him as a kind of family pet, | 1:25:26 | 1:25:31 | |
as did we all on the Conservancy. We
had got to know him as an | 1:25:31 | 1:25:37 | |
individual. How old was he? When he
died, he was 45. Is there a Rino | 1:25:37 | 1:25:43 | |
years equivalent? -- rhino. We like
to say he had reached the age of | 1:25:43 | 1:25:52 | |
100. Whether that is true, I am not
sure, definitely very old | 1:25:52 | 1:25:56 | |
individual. And he was sick at the
end. Yeah comedy was coming down | 1:25:56 | 1:26:00 | |
with lots of -- yeah, he was coming
down with lots of age-related | 1:26:00 | 1:26:10 | |
illnesses, he had stopped feeding,
recumbent, not good for a large | 1:26:10 | 1:26:13 | |
animal, he was suffering, and that
is why we took the decision to | 1:26:13 | 1:26:17 | |
utilise him. That is one heck of a
decision. It is. -- to euthanise | 1:26:17 | 1:26:26 | |
him. You have to put it into
context. Functionally, from a | 1:26:26 | 1:26:30 | |
reproductive perspective, he had
become irrelevant over the past five | 1:26:30 | 1:26:35 | |
years, just because of his age.
Luckily, we have plenty of... We | 1:26:35 | 1:26:40 | |
have stored northern white rhino
Seaman. The future of the species is | 1:26:40 | 1:26:49 | |
incredibly dire but the fact we have
it and we have two females left, it | 1:26:49 | 1:26:53 | |
means theoretically in vitro
fertilisation to recover the species | 1:26:53 | 1:26:58 | |
as possible. It is really complex,
really expensive, really difficult, | 1:26:58 | 1:27:02 | |
but theoretically, it is possible.
Wow, theoretically possible. | 1:27:02 | 1:27:09 | |
Presumably that is something you
would like to see? Yes, absolutely. | 1:27:09 | 1:27:14 | |
Obviously, it needs to run in
parallel to making sure there was | 1:27:14 | 1:27:22 | |
enough habitat available and the
poaching crisis, but we would like | 1:27:22 | 1:27:25 | |
to see both running in parallel. As
was said, we have been facing a | 1:27:25 | 1:27:31 | |
decline in most rhino species across
the world, subspecies of Javan rhino | 1:27:31 | 1:27:35 | |
in Vietnam in 2011, a sad day today,
almost certainly the last of the | 1:27:35 | 1:27:44 | |
northern white rhino. It is only the
southern white rhino and black | 1:27:44 | 1:27:48 | |
rhino, relatively stable
populations, but we are losing three | 1:27:48 | 1:27:51 | |
a day on average to poachers, a big
context we need to tackle. I wish | 1:27:51 | 1:27:56 | |
Richard and his team every success.
The poaching happens because of | 1:27:56 | 1:28:01 | |
what, where is the demand coming
from and for what parts of the | 1:28:01 | 1:28:06 | |
rhino? Overwhelmingly the rhino
horn. It is essentially made of the | 1:28:06 | 1:28:10 | |
same stuff as our hair, but it is
believed to have properties of | 1:28:10 | 1:28:15 | |
value. It is primarily demand for
horn, it is illegal wildlife trade, | 1:28:15 | 1:28:21 | |
on a massive scale and people do not
realise, it is on the scale of drugs | 1:28:21 | 1:28:27 | |
and guns, big criminal scale, not
small-scale poaching at all, big | 1:28:27 | 1:28:32 | |
money, a big problem, needs major
law enforcement. It is demand in | 1:28:32 | 1:28:38 | |
East Asia primarily. Who could find
rhino IVF theoretically? | 1:28:38 | 1:28:49 | |
rhino IVF theoretically? It was for
you, you from the WWF, you are | 1:28:49 | 1:28:52 | |
incredibly popular around the world,
you would receive donations? Our | 1:28:52 | 1:28:58 | |
work is mostly concentrated where we
are experts, in reducing the trade, | 1:28:58 | 1:29:03 | |
greater policing, protected areas
for the rhino tried anti-poaching | 1:29:03 | 1:29:07 | |
patrols, working with communities,
it is not particularly our area of | 1:29:07 | 1:29:11 | |
expertise, but... Who potentially
could fund rhino IVF, Richard? | 1:29:11 | 1:29:18 | |
Interesting question. As your guest
is saying, conservation as a whole | 1:29:18 | 1:29:24 | |
costs an extraordinary amount of
money, the conservation of rhinos in | 1:29:24 | 1:29:28 | |
particular, the biggest black rhino
sanctuary in East Africa, we have | 1:29:28 | 1:29:34 | |
over 100, making as a key
population, there are only nine left | 1:29:34 | 1:29:38 | |
in Africa, we are really important
conservation area for rhinos, but we | 1:29:38 | 1:29:43 | |
have to spend an inordinate amount
of money on security to safeguard | 1:29:43 | 1:29:47 | |
the populations, somewhere in the
region of $2.5 million per year on | 1:29:47 | 1:29:51 | |
security to protect the rhinos.
Finding money in addition to that to | 1:29:51 | 1:29:56 | |
develop IVF to recover the northern
white rhino is inevitably going to | 1:29:56 | 1:29:59 | |
be difficult but it is a charismatic
species. Increasingly I am seeing | 1:29:59 | 1:30:04 | |
around the world people are sick and
tired of the rate of extinction that | 1:30:04 | 1:30:09 | |
has been witnessed, as we speak, on
this planet. Hopefully there comes a | 1:30:09 | 1:30:13 | |
time where we can draw a line in the
sand and people get behind courses | 1:30:13 | 1:30:17 | |
like this. Let us hope it is in our
lifetime. Thank you very much for | 1:30:17 | 1:30:23 | |
coming on the programme. | 1:30:23 | 1:30:25 | |
Police chiefs are asking
members of the public | 1:30:25 | 1:30:27 | |
to act as "counter terrorism
citizens" to help stop | 1:30:27 | 1:30:29 | |
deadly terror plots. | 1:30:29 | 1:30:32 | |
Police say information
from the community is crucial | 1:31:33 | 1:31:35 | |
to confronting the unprecedented
terror threat, with more than 6,000 | 1:31:35 | 1:31:37 | |
tip-offs yielding useful
intelligence last year. | 1:31:37 | 1:31:44 | |
So, if you witnessed
suspicious behaviour, | 1:31:44 | 1:31:45 | |
would you feel confident
reporting it to the police? | 1:31:45 | 1:31:51 | |
We can speak to Mak Chisty,
former commander for engagement | 1:31:51 | 1:31:54 | |
with the Met Police, Sajda Mughal,
a survivor of the 7/7 | 1:31:54 | 1:31:57 | |
terror attack in London who now
works with Muslim women to educate | 1:31:57 | 1:32:00 | |
them on identifying signs
of radicalization in children, | 1:32:00 | 1:32:06 | |
and from Calgary in Canada,
Christianne Boudreau. | 1:32:06 | 1:32:09 | |
Christianne's son became radicalized
and flew to Syria in 2012. | 1:32:09 | 1:32:14 | |
He was killed soon after,
and Christianne now campaigns | 1:32:14 | 1:32:16 | |
against online
radicalisation propaganda. | 1:32:16 | 1:32:24 | |
Welcome to you all and thank you for
your patience. Mak, a fifth of | 1:32:24 | 1:32:30 | |
reports from the public producing
intelligence, the UK | 1:32:30 | 1:32:33 | |
counterterrorism police and tells
us, which is helpful to them. What | 1:32:33 | 1:32:36 | |
do you think of this further call to
action? I think it is absolutely | 1:32:36 | 1:32:41 | |
necessary. There has always been
cooperation between the public and | 1:32:41 | 1:32:46 | |
security services and the police. At
no point in time before is it ever | 1:32:46 | 1:32:49 | |
more needed than now. The dispersed
nature of terrorism is right across | 1:32:49 | 1:32:54 | |
the piece. What we are really asking
for, police are asking for, if any | 1:32:54 | 1:33:00 | |
information of whatever value you
may think it may be, too reported to | 1:33:00 | 1:33:04 | |
encourage people. Sajda? I think it
is a good initiative which is | 1:33:04 | 1:33:10 | |
needed, however I do not want us to
be complacent in terms of being | 1:33:10 | 1:33:14 | |
reliant on this initiative to defeat
terrorism. I don't think there was a | 1:33:14 | 1:33:19 | |
suggestion it is just this. OK. But
the police say, for example, | 1:33:19 | 1:33:30 | |
the police say, for example, they
ten Islamist plots and four | 1:33:31 | 1:33:32 | |
right-wing terror plots in 2017
which would not have been possible | 1:33:32 | 1:33:34 | |
without relevant information. It
would not have been possible if we | 1:33:34 | 1:33:36 | |
had not had that from members of the
public. | 1:33:36 | 1:33:38 | |
But what I would like to see happen
is to go out and educate members of | 1:33:38 | 1:33:43 | |
the public about the signs, educate
them with the very specific signs. I | 1:33:43 | 1:33:47 | |
would hope the marketing, posters,
leaflets or whatever that go out, or | 1:33:47 | 1:33:52 | |
the TV adverts, are very specific in
terms of what they tell members of | 1:33:52 | 1:33:56 | |
the public. I do not want this in
any way to whip up hysteria. Only | 1:33:56 | 1:34:02 | |
yesterday in the Guardian and
article came out in terms of NHS | 1:34:02 | 1:34:07 | |
workers reporting patients who said
they were going on pilgrimage. I do | 1:34:07 | 1:34:11 | |
not want that type of approach, in
effect that could create tensions | 1:34:11 | 1:34:18 | |
with communities, specifically the
Muslim community. A good initiative | 1:34:18 | 1:34:20 | |
but I want is to be very specific in
the marketing campaign. The quote | 1:34:20 | 1:34:25 | |
says if you see or hear something
unusual or suspicious, trust your | 1:34:25 | 1:34:30 | |
instincts. Which, Mak, if you don't
like the look of somebody, you | 1:34:30 | 1:34:34 | |
report them?! I have a slightly
different view to Sajda in relation | 1:34:34 | 1:34:38 | |
to being specific. I don't think you
can be. The plotted attacks we have | 1:34:38 | 1:34:43 | |
dealt with have had a different
dynamic. We do not want to consign | 1:34:43 | 1:34:49 | |
people to a specific set. If you
feel something is disturbing not | 1:34:49 | 1:34:54 | |
quite right, police are saying to
report it. Do not feel you are | 1:34:54 | 1:34:58 | |
wasting time, that you will feel
silly, report it in. 30,000 last | 1:34:58 | 1:35:05 | |
year, 6000 of which were actionable,
that is real credit to public. So | 1:35:05 | 1:35:10 | |
most tip-offs were not useful. Let
me bring in Christianne. You will | 1:35:10 | 1:35:15 | |
have been asked this so many times,
thank you for talking to us and for | 1:35:15 | 1:35:19 | |
your patience, tell our audience if
you picked up any signs about your | 1:35:19 | 1:35:24 | |
son before he flew to Syria? Changes
in views, attitude, behaviour? A | 1:35:24 | 1:35:29 | |
group absolutely. At the time back
in Canada we had not heard too much | 1:35:29 | 1:35:35 | |
about the war in Syria, we heard a
lot about extremism but we are not | 1:35:35 | 1:35:39 | |
educated about it. I did not
recognise it but I recognised a | 1:35:39 | 1:35:43 | |
shift. Back then they had a lot more
clear definitions as far as signs | 1:35:43 | 1:35:49 | |
for this type of extremism, now it
has gone underground. What we try to | 1:35:49 | 1:35:54 | |
do when working with parents is say
when it is somebody very close to | 1:35:54 | 1:35:59 | |
you, a loved one, you will pick up
on those changes of behaviour, | 1:35:59 | 1:36:04 | |
personality, even. They starts
occluding themselves from their | 1:36:04 | 1:36:06 | |
regular circle of friends, start
shifting, coming away from the | 1:36:06 | 1:36:11 | |
everyday norms of their lifestyle
and start having arguments and | 1:36:11 | 1:36:16 | |
stronger views about certain points
of view. You can feel it in your | 1:36:16 | 1:36:21 | |
gut. You can feel it in your gut.
Did you report your son to the | 1:36:21 | 1:36:26 | |
authorities? Yeah, like I said
before, there was no way of me | 1:36:26 | 1:36:30 | |
understand what was happening. I
could see a change, I did not know | 1:36:30 | 1:36:34 | |
if it was depression again, some
kind of extreme views and he was | 1:36:34 | 1:36:39 | |
going to settle because of his new
religion, we see that in born-again | 1:36:39 | 1:36:43 | |
Christians when they go in full
force. Where was I going to report | 1:36:43 | 1:36:47 | |
it? There was nobody to talk to, not
a safe environment to talk to | 1:36:47 | 1:36:52 | |
somebody, nobody I could reach out
to. | 1:36:52 | 1:36:55 | |
Thank you very much for your time,
we appreciate your patience. Thank | 1:36:55 | 1:36:58 | |
you. | 1:36:58 | 1:37:00 | |
Clubbers should be given access
to places to test their drugs | 1:37:00 | 1:37:03 | |
in UK towns and cities,
especially at night, | 1:37:03 | 1:37:05 | |
to see what's in them and how
safe they are to take. | 1:37:05 | 1:37:08 | |
Campaign group The Loop says deaths
related to ecstasy and cocaine | 1:37:08 | 1:37:10 | |
are at a record high. | 1:37:10 | 1:37:17 | |
It believes if people are able
to test their drugs, | 1:37:17 | 1:37:19 | |
the amount of drugs laced
with potentially lethal | 1:37:19 | 1:37:21 | |
products will be reduced,
which will in turn reduce the number | 1:37:21 | 1:37:24 | |
of hospital admissions. | 1:37:24 | 1:37:26 | |
So, should clubs and pubs
introduce drug testing areas? | 1:37:26 | 1:37:31 | |
Or will it, as critics argue,
simply encourage people to take | 1:37:31 | 1:37:33 | |
illegal drugs? | 1:37:33 | 1:37:37 | |
Really keen to hear
from you this morning. | 1:37:37 | 1:37:39 | |
Earlier, we spoke to Labour MP
Jeff Smith, who co-chairs the group | 1:37:39 | 1:37:42 | |
of MPs who've written a report,
the All-Party Parliamentary Group | 1:37:42 | 1:37:45 | |
on Drug Policy Reform. | 1:37:45 | 1:37:49 | |
Simpa Carter is a recreational
drug user and is in Newcastle | 1:37:49 | 1:37:51 | |
for us this morning. | 1:37:51 | 1:37:53 | |
David Jamieson is
the West Midlands Police | 1:37:53 | 1:37:55 | |
and Crime Commissioner,
who this summer will introduce drug | 1:37:55 | 1:37:57 | |
testing in nightspots
across his patch, | 1:37:57 | 1:38:00 | |
and Fiona Measham,
professor of criminology | 1:38:00 | 1:38:02 | |
at Durham University
and the director of The Loop, | 1:38:02 | 1:38:04 | |
who currently set up testing
centers at UK festivals. | 1:38:04 | 1:38:12 | |
-- testing centres. We asked Jeff
Smith what needs to change. Well, we | 1:38:14 | 1:38:19 | |
have a situation where the
night-time economy is very important | 1:38:19 | 1:38:24 | |
in this country. We have thousands
of people going out tonight and | 1:38:24 | 1:38:28 | |
venues, many of whom use drugs. We
had to accept that as a reality. | 1:38:28 | 1:38:33 | |
What this report is about is
reducing the harm related to that | 1:38:33 | 1:38:38 | |
consumption. It is a suite of
proposals and the great thing about | 1:38:38 | 1:38:43 | |
them as they can all be implemented
without changing the law. | 1:38:43 | 1:38:47 | |
One of the lustre Matic proposals is
you are suggesting that then use in | 1:38:47 | 1:38:51 | |
towns and cities across the lad
should test drugs on the spot -- one | 1:38:51 | 1:38:57 | |
of the most dramatic proposals. We
suggest professional drug testing in | 1:38:57 | 1:39:02 | |
city centres and in venues possibly,
which has very successfully been | 1:39:02 | 1:39:08 | |
done by The Loop in this country and
it has been successful in other | 1:39:08 | 1:39:11 | |
countries. It takes the very
harmful, dangerous drugs out of the | 1:39:11 | 1:39:16 | |
market. While drug use is pretty
constant, at the moment drug deaths | 1:39:16 | 1:39:21 | |
are up, hospitalisations are up and
there is a huge cost to the NHS and | 1:39:21 | 1:39:25 | |
police. Would you say this is
urgent? Getting more urgent. It is a | 1:39:25 | 1:39:29 | |
growing trend in something we need
to address. Director of The Loop, | 1:39:29 | 1:39:36 | |
Fiona Measham, currently set up
testing centres that UK music | 1:39:36 | 1:39:40 | |
festivals. How successful is that
and how do you measure success? We | 1:39:40 | 1:39:44 | |
have looked at a number of
indicators, whether people are being | 1:39:44 | 1:39:49 | |
mis-sold drugs, whether there are
dangerous contaminants circulating | 1:39:49 | 1:39:52 | |
on site and weather when people hear
the test results they dispose of the | 1:39:52 | 1:39:57 | |
drugs themselves or give us the
drugs to be disposed of by police. | 1:39:57 | 1:40:02 | |
About one in five give over drugs
for disposal or destruction because | 1:40:02 | 1:40:05 | |
they do not want to take them when
they find out what is in them. Only | 1:40:05 | 1:40:11 | |
one in five? About and about another
half of the others take a smaller | 1:40:11 | 1:40:14 | |
amount. We have the highest
drug-related death rate on record, | 1:40:14 | 1:40:18 | |
partly relating to high purity, it
is very good if we can get people to | 1:40:18 | 1:40:23 | |
take smaller amounts. 100% of the
people we see had previously planned | 1:40:23 | 1:40:27 | |
on taking back drug, so we can only
reduce that figure. OK. Is this | 1:40:27 | 1:40:35 | |
condoning drug use? It is not
condoning or promoting, it is trying | 1:40:35 | 1:40:41 | |
to take the harm out of it,
accepting it is a reality but we | 1:40:41 | 1:40:43 | |
need to save lives. Simpa, you use
drugs regularly. Would you like to | 1:40:43 | 1:40:49 | |
see the drugs you are about to take
tested first? I wouldn't highly. I | 1:40:49 | 1:40:55 | |
took advantage of Fiona's The Loop
at a festival last year. As Fiona | 1:40:55 | 1:41:03 | |
said, people took less or were more
cautious of consumer product. -- I | 1:41:03 | 1:41:08 | |
would, entirely. Does it ever feel
like it was complicit in your | 1:41:08 | 1:41:17 | |
illegal drug-taking? I was going to
anyway. I have the sovereignty of my | 1:41:17 | 1:41:22 | |
consciousness, I am an adult, it is
the law. Prohibition is the problem. | 1:41:22 | 1:41:27 | |
These substances are relatively safe
themselves. When they are covered | 1:41:27 | 1:41:31 | |
with adult rents and nefarious
individuals are trying to profit, of | 1:41:31 | 1:41:34 | |
course they would use PMA instead of
ecstasy, concrete dust and cocaine. | 1:41:34 | 1:41:39 | |
That is why we need a regulated
market. I applaud this avid but I | 1:41:39 | 1:41:44 | |
think it is the first step of a
journey of a thousand. We are joined | 1:41:44 | 1:41:49 | |
by the Police and Crime Commissioner
for the West Midlands, you are doing | 1:41:49 | 1:41:53 | |
this this summer, why? Because we
want to prevent harm to people, the | 1:41:53 | 1:41:57 | |
police's job is to keep people safe.
We want the night-time economy to | 1:41:57 | 1:42:01 | |
work well and we want people to
enjoy festivals. This provides the | 1:42:01 | 1:42:06 | |
police with extra assistance in
finding out and getting early | 1:42:06 | 1:42:09 | |
warning of substances that may be
coming onto the street that are | 1:42:09 | 1:42:13 | |
dangerous to young people, so
instead of targeting the young | 1:42:13 | 1:42:18 | |
people who have the drug, we can
target instead people pushing these | 1:42:18 | 1:42:22 | |
drugs and manufacturing them. Last
year Theresa May, the Prime | 1:42:22 | 1:42:28 | |
Minister, said it is right that we
continue to fight the war against | 1:42:28 | 1:42:31 | |
drugs, citing the incredible damage
drugs can do to families and | 1:42:31 | 1:42:35 | |
individuals concerned. Critics might
say of you that you have simply | 1:42:35 | 1:42:40 | |
given up? The war on drugs is not
working at the moment. Every three | 1:42:40 | 1:42:46 | |
days in the West Midlands someone
dies from a drug overdose, drug | 1:42:46 | 1:42:50 | |
gangs are fighting drug wars. The
war is not being won. It is clearly | 1:42:50 | 1:42:55 | |
not working, when things are not
working you look at alternative ways | 1:42:55 | 1:42:59 | |
of approaching them. This is one
method of looking at an alternative | 1:42:59 | 1:43:03 | |
method. The report that I brought
out last month has been well | 1:43:03 | 1:43:08 | |
received, I have to say, by
Government ministers, including the | 1:43:08 | 1:43:12 | |
Home Secretary and the Minister for
the Department of the Home Office | 1:43:12 | 1:43:14 | |
that I spoke to last week. What did
the Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, say? | 1:43:14 | 1:43:20 | |
That we have produced an excellent
report. Some parts of it are | 1:43:20 | 1:43:24 | |
controversial but there was no
mention of this particular part, | 1:43:24 | 1:43:27 | |
which I think is a pragmatic,
sensible way of helping young people | 1:43:27 | 1:43:32 | |
keep safe. Jeff Smith, do you think
this testing will be rolled out to | 1:43:32 | 1:43:37 | |
other areas across the country? I
hope so. We should not just focus on | 1:43:37 | 1:43:43 | |
the testing, this is a suite of
measures. It is an information | 1:43:43 | 1:43:48 | |
campaign so clubbers know what they
are getting, it is a number of | 1:43:48 | 1:43:51 | |
measures that, combined, will reduce
harm in the night-time economy and | 1:43:51 | 1:43:55 | |
protect people. We will see what
happens. Your experience is welcome. | 1:43:55 | 1:44:01 | |
Working dads should be given 12
weeks paternity leave in the first | 1:44:01 | 1:44:04 | |
year of a baby's life,
with two weeks paterntity leave paid | 1:44:04 | 1:44:07 | |
at 90% of their salary. | 1:44:07 | 1:44:08 | |
That's the verdict of MPs who say
Britain must radically reform | 1:44:08 | 1:44:10 | |
parental leave to encourage more
fathers to take time off work, | 1:44:10 | 1:44:13 | |
or it will never get to grips
with the gender pay gap. | 1:44:13 | 1:44:19 | |
Conservative MP and chair
of Parliament's Equalities Committee | 1:44:19 | 1:44:23 | |
who brought this report out this
morning, Maria Miller, | 1:44:23 | 1:44:25 | |
is with us now. | 1:44:25 | 1:44:29 | |
And Sarah Morris, chief people
officer at Aviva, they currently | 1:44:29 | 1:44:35 | |
offer equal paid parental leave to
both male and female staff. | 1:44:35 | 1:44:40 | |
Adam Gretton and his daughter,
Florence, who is nearly two. | 1:44:40 | 1:44:42 | |
Adam also has
a five-year-old son, Oscar. | 1:44:42 | 1:44:48 | |
And we have Martin Leay
and Rachael Cox, | 1:44:48 | 1:44:53 | |
and their baby, John,
who is six months old today. | 1:44:53 | 1:44:56 | |
Martin and Rachael are currently
both on shared parental leave. | 1:44:56 | 1:44:59 | |
Thank you all very much for coming
on the programme, I want to talk | 1:44:59 | 1:45:03 | |
about the cost and the changing
culture that might be needed. | 1:45:03 | 1:45:07 | |
Paternity leave for dads which would
be 90% of their salary for two weeks | 1:45:07 | 1:45:13 | |
and a separate 12 weeks parental
leave in the first year of the | 1:45:13 | 1:45:17 | |
child's life, how much would it cost
and who would pay for it? We are | 1:45:17 | 1:45:21 | |
putting forward the first proposal
which is two weeks at 90% which we | 1:45:21 | 1:45:26 | |
believe is going to help more dads
to take | 1:45:26 | 1:45:33 | |
to take that, it will be paid for by
the Government and employers, and | 1:45:36 | 1:45:39 | |
the same for the 12 weeks, more of a
recommendation to government as part | 1:45:39 | 1:45:42 | |
of the review. It is a cost we have
to take on because if we don't... We | 1:45:42 | 1:45:46 | |
know that 50% of dads are looking to
down trade their jobs, and at a time | 1:45:46 | 1:45:50 | |
when we have a skills shortage, that
is something that would affect | 1:45:50 | 1:45:54 | |
productivity of the country. To
tackle the gender pay gap, one of | 1:45:54 | 1:45:58 | |
this government's flagship policies,
if we do not help dads to get the | 1:45:58 | 1:46:03 | |
balance right, we will never achieve
that. Yes, it is an expensive policy | 1:46:03 | 1:46:07 | |
but I do not think the country has
any option other than to move | 1:46:07 | 1:46:10 | |
towards it. Your company | 1:46:10 | 1:46:17 | |
towards it. Your company already
pretty much does this. Why? We made | 1:46:22 | 1:46:23 | |
the decision to do it at the end of
last year. It is about levelling the | 1:46:23 | 1:46:27 | |
playing field. We did not like the
idea men and women had to choose who | 1:46:27 | 1:46:30 | |
to have time-out. By some men
choosing to take time out, some | 1:46:30 | 1:46:32 | |
women choose to come back to work on
getting women to return to work is | 1:46:32 | 1:46:35 | |
important, it is about choice, we
are not judging anybody, but it is | 1:46:35 | 1:46:39 | |
enabling choice for men and women.
Adam and Florence, what do you think | 1:46:39 | 1:46:43 | |
of the suggestions today? I think
they are really good ideas. I think | 1:46:43 | 1:46:48 | |
it definitely is needed. At the
minute, there are a lot of dads who | 1:46:48 | 1:46:57 | |
want to take parental leave and they
cannot afford to. I took three | 1:46:57 | 1:47:02 | |
months off with Florence but that
was unpaid leave, basically. What is | 1:47:02 | 1:47:07 | |
being proposed today is really
promising. I think more dads will | 1:47:07 | 1:47:11 | |
take it up. But I think more could
be done to help working parents. It | 1:47:11 | 1:47:19 | |
is definitely a good step forward.
Martin and Rachael, you are enjoying | 1:47:19 | 1:47:25 | |
your time off together, I assume? We
are, thank you. Joni is a bit tired | 1:47:25 | 1:47:31 | |
and hungry at the moment, on good
form earlier this morning. We all | 1:47:31 | 1:47:36 | |
are, don't worry! What do you think
of this idea of dads having 12 weeks | 1:47:36 | 1:47:40 | |
parental leave in the first year of
a baby's life? I think it is a | 1:47:40 | 1:47:47 | |
fantastic idea, similar to Adam, I
have taken about three months | 1:47:47 | 1:47:50 | |
myself, but it was unpaid, I get the
statutory shed parental pay which I | 1:47:50 | 1:47:56 | |
have taken from my wife. If it was
more a matter of course that men can | 1:47:56 | 1:48:02 | |
do this, that is only a positive
thing for families and for the | 1:48:02 | 1:48:06 | |
development of children,
particularly at such an early age. | 1:48:06 | 1:48:09 | |
What about you, Rachael? I am dying
to know who you have given her to. | 1:48:09 | 1:48:16 | |
She has gone to her nana. Why has it
been important for you, having your | 1:48:16 | 1:48:24 | |
baby's Father there? I think those
first few months with the baby are | 1:48:24 | 1:48:29 | |
so hard on the month. They are
obviously wonderful, precious times, | 1:48:29 | 1:48:34 | |
but it is so difficult, sleep
deprivation. -- on the modem. I was | 1:48:34 | 1:48:42 | |
so grateful to know I would have
Martin with me after the first three | 1:48:42 | 1:48:46 | |
months so that we could do it
together. The one thing for mothers | 1:48:46 | 1:48:51 | |
that is really difficult at the
minute is that in order for your | 1:48:51 | 1:48:54 | |
partner to take this leave, you have
to sacrifice your only. That means | 1:48:54 | 1:48:58 | |
for me I am going back at nine
months, I cannot take the full 12 | 1:48:58 | 1:49:03 | |
months. Progress in that area would
be really positive. Maria Miller, | 1:49:03 | 1:49:08 | |
the Government admitted to your
inquiry it is the flagship shed | 1:49:08 | 1:49:13 | |
parental leave skin, it is not
meeting its objectives. The | 1:49:13 | 1:49:21 | |
Government will make some important
reforms. The inquiry report today | 1:49:21 | 1:49:27 | |
suggests 12 weeks stand-alone use it
or use it leave for dads which in | 1:49:27 | 1:49:32 | |
other countries has helped change
the culture not only amongst | 1:49:32 | 1:49:35 | |
employers who take it more seriously
and do not see it as a detriment to | 1:49:35 | 1:49:39 | |
someone's career to take dad leave,
but for dads to have the right as | 1:49:39 | 1:49:43 | |
well and not take time away from
them on spending time with her | 1:49:43 | 1:49:48 | |
child, as we have just heard. --
time away from mothers. You will | 1:49:48 | 1:49:55 | |
have a brilliant time. Thank you,
Adam, Martin, Rachael, Joni, | 1:49:55 | 1:50:03 | |
Florence. | 1:50:03 | 1:50:08 | |
It sounds obvious, but hair
is really important to us, | 1:50:08 | 1:50:10 | |
our self image and self esteem. | 1:50:10 | 1:50:12 | |
It tells us about our
identity and personal style | 1:50:12 | 1:50:14 | |
and perhaps especially
so for young adults. | 1:50:14 | 1:50:18 | |
So losing your hair in your 20s
can be devastating. | 1:50:18 | 1:50:22 | |
Chedira Eggerue is 23 and wears
a wig to cover her bald patch. | 1:50:22 | 1:50:30 | |
She's been to meet other young
people who are losing their hair | 1:50:31 | 1:50:33 | |
for Radio 1 Newsbeat. | 1:50:33 | 1:50:36 | |
We brought you her
full report earlier. | 1:50:36 | 1:50:37 | |
Here's a short extract. | 1:50:37 | 1:50:38 | |
It shows some graphic images of hair
transplants. | 1:50:38 | 1:50:40 | |
I always cover my bald
patch when I'm out by | 1:50:40 | 1:50:43 | |
wearing a wig or a hat. | 1:50:43 | 1:50:44 | |
But it's not so easy
for guys to hide their loss. | 1:50:44 | 1:50:48 | |
Perry is 23, and first
started losing his hair | 1:50:48 | 1:50:51 | |
when he was a teenager. | 1:50:51 | 1:50:52 | |
Hello, everyone. | 1:50:52 | 1:50:53 | |
My name is Perry and this
is Perry Presents. | 1:50:53 | 1:51:00 | |
He has male pattern baldness -
by far the most common form | 1:51:00 | 1:51:03 | |
of hair loss in men. | 1:51:03 | 1:51:04 | |
So at times like this,
what do you do? | 1:51:04 | 1:51:07 | |
So I get my phone. | 1:51:07 | 1:51:08 | |
And obviously I will
look like a mirror. | 1:51:08 | 1:51:10 | |
OK, so you put your phone on camera? | 1:51:10 | 1:51:12 | |
Yeah. | 1:51:12 | 1:51:13 | |
And then I'll check it a bit. | 1:51:13 | 1:51:16 | |
And obviously you can see now -
really bad, right? | 1:51:16 | 1:51:18 | |
Yeah. | 1:51:18 | 1:51:19 | |
And the wind makes it worse. | 1:51:19 | 1:51:21 | |
So I have my brush. | 1:51:21 | 1:51:24 | |
Basically just do the same
thing again, restyle it. | 1:51:24 | 1:51:27 | |
But to be honest with you,
in the wind, it's just life. | 1:51:27 | 1:51:31 | |
And until I get indoors,
that's just the way it is. | 1:51:31 | 1:51:34 | |
Tidies it up and we'll
take another selfie. | 1:51:34 | 1:51:42 | |
You can watch a full version of Too
Young To Go Bald on BBC iPlayer. | 1:51:45 | 1:51:52 | |
We can speak now to Perry O'Bree,
a 23-year-old vlogger | 1:51:52 | 1:51:55 | |
who you saw in the film there,
Paigey Cakey, a rapper | 1:51:55 | 1:51:58 | |
who got a hair transplant
after losing some of her hair, | 1:51:58 | 1:52:00 | |
and Dr Greg Williams, the president
of the British Association | 1:52:00 | 1:52:03 | |
of Hair Restoration Surgery
who are warning there isn't enough | 1:52:03 | 1:52:05 | |
regulation of the hair
transplant industry. | 1:52:05 | 1:52:06 | |
Thank you all very much for coming
on the programme. Good to see you. | 1:52:06 | 1:52:10 | |
Perry, what is it like? I first
started losing my hair at university | 1:52:10 | 1:52:15 | |
and there was a lot of pressure, you
go on lots of nights out, I was | 1:52:15 | 1:52:21 | |
about 20, 21, basically, the peak of
party, and I started to notice a | 1:52:21 | 1:52:30 | |
tiny hole in my hair and you think,
my goodness, and of the world, you | 1:52:30 | 1:52:35 | |
start to question yourself, your
confidence. But the more I talk | 1:52:35 | 1:52:40 | |
about, the better I feel -- end of
the world. Why is the better you | 1:52:40 | 1:52:45 | |
feel? I kept it in for so long, I
hid it through college, it is just | 1:52:45 | 1:52:51 | |
talking about it now, a huge weight
off my shoulder, it was like a | 1:52:51 | 1:52:56 | |
massive life, living with it for
years. Every time I talk about it, I | 1:52:56 | 1:53:00 | |
feel amazing. Keeping it quiet and
not confronting it, if you like, it | 1:53:00 | 1:53:05 | |
was a burden? Eating you up inside.
I found the best thing to start off | 1:53:05 | 1:53:11 | |
with was talking to your best
friends, the people who support you | 1:53:11 | 1:53:15 | |
the most, your friends, family, and
slowly talking to more people about | 1:53:15 | 1:53:19 | |
it until you feel that you can walk
the street happily and not worry | 1:53:19 | 1:53:24 | |
about your hair. I am constantly
playing with it. While I have got | 1:53:24 | 1:53:29 | |
it, I will keep it that way. I love
my hair, it is part of me. The | 1:53:29 | 1:53:34 | |
biggest thing is you feel you might
lose part of you, your personality, | 1:53:34 | 1:53:39 | |
and there is a lot of pressure with
social media and Instagram for us to | 1:53:39 | 1:53:42 | |
look good. People tend to assume
that hair can be part of it but | 1:53:42 | 1:53:49 | |
through doing this documentary and
talking to different people, I have | 1:53:49 | 1:53:52 | |
learnt it is not always... You do
not always have to have hair to look | 1:53:52 | 1:53:57 | |
good. He will often ask, is it worse
for a woman. How do you answer that, | 1:53:57 | 1:54:04 | |
Paigey? In a sense, it is worse for
a female because hair is kind of | 1:54:04 | 1:54:10 | |
beauty, for a woman, you love your
hair, you love your make-up commie | 1:54:10 | 1:54:13 | |
field that is what makes you you and
beautiful. Losing my hair, I did not | 1:54:13 | 1:54:19 | |
feel beautiful, I felt very insecure
and I felt like I was way too young | 1:54:19 | 1:54:23 | |
to lose my hair, it was the
insecurity I saw every day and I did | 1:54:23 | 1:54:28 | |
not have a lot of confidence. I was
looking in the mirror thinking, I am | 1:54:28 | 1:54:32 | |
too young. Little hairstyles,
friends putting their hair in a | 1:54:32 | 1:54:38 | |
barn, I did not have any hair on the
sides, I could not do that, it was | 1:54:38 | 1:54:42 | |
horrible -- in a | 1:54:42 | 1:54:49 | |
horrible -- in a bun. What do you
say to people who say, it is just | 1:54:49 | 1:54:53 | |
superficial, what is the problem? It
is a big thing and as you were | 1:54:53 | 1:54:57 | |
saying, it does feel like my
personality. Losing my hair, I was | 1:54:57 | 1:55:02 | |
losing my personality, who I was. It
is part of you, isn't it? Let me | 1:55:02 | 1:55:07 | |
read some messages before I bring in
Greg. Slow tablet! I will talk to | 1:55:07 | 1:55:15 | |
Greg while it sorts itself out. What
was your worry? If you can believe | 1:55:15 | 1:55:19 | |
it, the law is very vague in the UK
as to who can practice medicine and | 1:55:19 | 1:55:24 | |
surgery. It happens in cosmetic
surgery, I can believe it. It is a | 1:55:24 | 1:55:31 | |
form of cosmetic surgery and animals
have more protection in veterinary | 1:55:31 | 1:55:35 | |
medicine laws than humans with
cosmetic surgery and hair transplant | 1:55:35 | 1:55:40 | |
surgery. It is very vague who can do
it, and it is becoming increasingly | 1:55:40 | 1:55:43 | |
popular and there are a lot of
websites offering it trying to | 1:55:43 | 1:55:47 | |
entice patients, a lot of misleading
information. We need some statutory | 1:55:47 | 1:55:54 | |
regulation about who can practice
hair transplant surgery and what can | 1:55:54 | 1:55:56 | |
be advertised. I will come back to
that. Messages, and he says, I'm a | 1:55:56 | 1:56:03 | |
DJ, 53, no less stressed to be
losing my hair than anyone younger. | 1:56:03 | 1:56:07 | |
I had a hair transplant in October
last year and it looks much better. | 1:56:07 | 1:56:11 | |
Less hair means less work on this
scene. Tony says, I began losing | 1:56:11 | 1:56:16 | |
head in my late 30s and it has now
gone, we can send men to the moon | 1:56:16 | 1:56:22 | |
and bring them back, we can
transplant faces but we cannot cure | 1:56:22 | 1:56:25 | |
a bald head. | 1:56:25 | 1:56:35 | |
a bald head. Liz says, she lost her
hair after pulling it out was | 1:56:35 | 1:56:37 | |
suffering from severe stress because
of being abused as a child, she says | 1:56:37 | 1:56:40 | |
she has spent her whole life in
therapy and only last week confessed | 1:56:40 | 1:56:42 | |
it to her doctor, she now has a bald
patch three inches across and my | 1:56:42 | 1:56:45 | |
abuser got away with it. My hair is
so embarrassing and it has ruined my | 1:56:45 | 1:56:49 | |
self-confidence. I am now bald and
56 years of age. Sad to hear someone | 1:56:49 | 1:56:54 | |
being so bothered about hair loss,
saying it is shallow, I wonder | 1:56:54 | 1:57:01 | |
whether they have a full head of
hair? Cosmetic surgery, reputable | 1:57:01 | 1:57:06 | |
cosmetic surgeons, they have been
trying for years to get statutory | 1:57:06 | 1:57:11 | |
regulations, that has not happened,
is there much chance of anybody | 1:57:11 | 1:57:15 | |
listening to you, I do not mean that
rudely? You know what I mean! I | 1:57:15 | 1:57:19 | |
think you are right, the answer is
probably no, we need to educate the | 1:57:19 | 1:57:23 | |
public so they know what to ask when
they are choosing a hair transplant | 1:57:23 | 1:57:29 | |
surgery or clinic. Is there a
standard mark or list? We have not | 1:57:29 | 1:57:33 | |
got a lot of time. The British
Association of hair Restoration | 1:57:33 | 1:57:38 | |
surgery has a website giving advice.
Just last month, a joint council for | 1:57:38 | 1:57:43 | |
cosmetic practitioners was launched,
it has a voluntary register, you | 1:57:43 | 1:57:50 | |
will be able to see if someone is
registered and if you are registered | 1:57:50 | 1:57:54 | |
you have to comply with the
standards authority on hair | 1:57:54 | 1:57:58 | |
transplant surgery and they are very
good. Future for you in terms of the | 1:57:58 | 1:58:02 | |
way you look, how are you thinking?
Ever since I got a hair transplant, | 1:58:02 | 1:58:07 | |
I feel very empowered as a woman
with short hair and I am rocking it | 1:58:07 | 1:58:11 | |
and I will not let it be me, I will
be myself and let my hair grow back | 1:58:11 | 1:58:16 | |
and be confident. Thank you so much
for coming on the programme. Thank | 1:58:16 | 1:58:19 | |
you. Thank you very much for
watching. We are back tomorrow at | 1:58:19 | 1:58:25 | |
9am. Have a lovely day. | 1:58:25 | 1:58:28 |