Europe - Part 1 Vote 2014

Results of the European elections have a profound affect both on their

politics here and her relationship with Europe. We'll come to a rock

election Centre on what promises to be a dramatic night. `` Welcome to

our election centre. It has been five years since the

last European elections and the date deal has happened. `` and a great

deal. We have seen some members of the European Union teeter on

financial collapse. And we have seen a doing disaffection across the

continent. Tonight, the ballot papers are being counted. Some

countries have already announced the results. By British law, we are not

allowed to announce the exit poll, if we do recall to jail for six

months... `` we go to jail. So let's take a look at what is happening.

How it will shape the domestic politics. We have a general election

11 months only. These European elections will affect them. Labour

made some games but they missed out on some of the key targets. Ed

Miliband came under attack. He admitted he had plenty more to do.

The Conservatives saw some councils slip into the hands of UKIP. David

Cameron as police for more bad news. `` is braced for more bad news. And

the man who said he would say that Fox was in the Westminster henhouse.

Nigel Farage. He predicted that people when outrage tonight, that

you will come top of the vote. `` UKIP.

We have people at the results are close the country. `` across. We are

also joined by experts here. We can reveal what the tale was about the

mood in Europe. We are joined by our political editor, looking at how the

results will affect the general election. Alongside him, a team of

experts. They will have their own analysis. And Emily is here with the

giant touch`screen. MEPs are elected by region and we will bring you all

the results as they come in. We will also be looked at how the map, or

stop. `` colours up. Jeremy Vine also here. Watching the picture as

it emerges across the continent. Don't overplay it! This is the map.

500 million people are voting in the biggest exercise of democracy after

the Indian elections. They want to send people into this building, the

European Parliament. This is the largest group in light blue. We will

wait to see if it remains the largest. Can UKIP not the

Conservatives out of fast please? `` first place. We are not allowed to

say anything until ten o'clock, but the Poles have been all the

political parties. Back it is the perfect solution. There is no exit

poll here. The key test tonight is whether what Nigel Farage

predicted, and what the likes of David Cameron have been preparing

for, will it happen. We'll UKIP top the poll? If they do not, has the

edge, of? The bubble may not have lost but some there may be seeping

out. `` some air. Do the local elections will be developed in

review about anything, really will come tonight? We have always assumed

when it comes to European elections that that is where most people are

willing to lend the report. `` their vote. Some people think it is a

relevant to the boat for. It is also the contest for fourth and fifth.

You get the likes of UKIP, the Conservatives, the Greens, that this

possible. Those possessions will have a massive impact on who

reflects us. We have seen everybody saying that some people should go.

How disconcerted are the three main political parties by what UKIP

achieved? In one sense, they saw it coming. They have a little bit of

notice about these elections five years ago when UKIP goodwill. `` did

well. But the reality of it happening, the spread of support, it

has shocked people. Some people say that we wrote the narrative too

early. Labour eventually started to perform. Some in the Labour Party

say that you are not being fair. The legal story was the better story. ``

Labour story. The good news for them came later. But you saw the reaction

in the assault course. Talking about immigration. Consider whether the

message on Europe was getting across. Waits see if we can go out

there and to other parts of the country. We will cost to Paris. What

can you tell us without going to duel about what has happened in

Paris? `` jail. They have been digestive and the exit polls for

about an hour. `` digesting. The Prime Minister says there has been a

political earthquake. He says it is a lesson that should go out to all

politicians. Wielder as a loser there is obviously a winner. All

eyes are on the National front. She says, the leader that there is the

freedom march and she wants to restore the integrity of the

country. She said that the people want the politics here in France.

She also called for the disillusion of the national assembly. She is not

going to get it because we are two years into a five`year term, but

this party only got 6% of the vote in 2009 and 50 have met the target

of 20 seats that the possible 74, we will see a very different make`up.

Thank you. It sounds as if the National front are celebrating

tonight. Now to Athens. We are having some sound problems. Wits go

to Germany. `` Let's go. Do you have any indication about how things have

gone in Germany? We are not going to go to jail over this thing. But a

usual sceptic party will probably get six or seven seats. `` Euro

sceptic. But no political earthquake. An expectation of a rise

in this state tickle party, scepticism means different things

heal than it does in Britain. The expectation is that they will have

seats in that parliament. Also, some debate because the figures are not

clear enough about the extreme right party. What they will get one seat.

`` Whether they. No great political earthquake but a significant rise, a

small rise in Udall scepticism. `` Euro scepticism. I want as few

simple question about the European Parliament. How important is it for

over a future that we bought in these elections? It is increasingly

important. Together with the council, the government decides on

most of the laws. 90% of the laws. It really matters in that sense. In

terms of the parties that want renegotiation, which the

Conservatives say they would, they make up we have tonight will affect

how good an ear they have? The pre`medically is where that is going

to happen is the European Council. That is the fast point for David

Cameron. But that does not mean that he does not cure. `` care. He will

want the centre`right that is strong. He may not want the sceptic

parties to do well, but it is maybe not bad for him that they do well in

other countries. If the parliament is so important, why do so

relatively few people thought? `` vote? We might think this is an

important night but do people really understand what the European

Parliament as? Not really. We know that from countless RVs. This has

been a lack of government that this Parliament is collecting. ``

electing. It has not been the case. They are trying to change things by

putting forward these top candidates and saying this is the next

president of the European Commission. It does not wash. They

haven't noticed in some countries. We are waiting for the results. We

can start giving them at ten o'clock. With sticky wood at how

these elections are fought there. `` Let's take a look.

Here is 2009. This is blue. It reflects how badly Labour were

doing. 12 regions. 11 regions elect by counting the votes... Then

putting a mix of candidates in. If you look at the last result, 2009,

the one Scottish region is taken by the Scottish National Party. They

came fast. `` first. The rest of the country went to the Conservatives,

apart from best bet in the North. As you were asked in me to show who was

forced on each council earlier it would be different. Some Labour in

Scotland. Industrial North. In these organ concentrations, it can go

read. `` urban. `` red. But this is the one part of the country were

UKIP team fast. They were first. We will wait to see how much purple

this time. Here are the last result. The Conservatives were in first

place. 25 in need these. `` 25 MEPs. UKIP 11. Greens, two. Others on

eight. Here's the percentage share. A commanding lead for Conservatives.

We borrowed were in stock place with 15%. The articles, 20%. That was the

result last time in 2009. Now we wait to see whether the

Conservatives go second author, who comes fast. If you are watching this

with a computer or you have a smartphone, you can follow the

results when they come through online. And you can also read, at

your leisure, a full explanation of the proportional system used here in

Britain to elect these MEPs. Assist in velvet `` a system invented

towards the end of the 19th century by a Belgian mathematician. And you

can follow it on social media, and they are probably saying a lot

already. Let's join Andrew Sinclair in the BBC East in John Spode where

UKIP did very well at the local elections on Thursday `` in

Chelmsford. What is your expectation of what will happen in East Anglia?

Do you expect UKIP to soar away? The East of England has always been seen

as a Eurosceptic region. Westminster politics and local politics, and

then we saw UKIP moving in the last few years. In the last European

elections, five years ago, the Conservatives were topped three

seats. Sorry comic they were topped with three seats, UKIP had two

seats, and then the Liberal Democrats and Labour got one seat

each. After the big UKIP gains on Thursday, UKIP are expecting to at

least get one more seat here this time round. Labour went into the

campaign a month or so ago talking about getting a second seat this

time. I think the expectations have diminished over the last week or so.

The Green party are worth watching. They came close to picking up a

seven seat last time around and they have a strong showing in Suffolk and

Norfolk and might just pull it off. But the feeling tonight is that the

main tussle here will be between the Conservatives and UKIP and it will

be interesting to see who comes out top. It looks rather silent and

everything abandoned. Have they finished counting and what time did

it begin? They started counting at four o'clock and were finished just

after six. I'm told it's a similar picture in all of the other counting

centres across the East of England. Provided there were no hitches, we

hope is that come 10pm, all of the regional centres will send in their

results and we could get a result very soon after that. The leisure

centre you are at is the centre point for all of the Eastern region.

Everyone's local authority sends the votes into there and then they are

aggregated and then they allocate them. They won't do that until ten?

Yes, they can the Essex result here this afternoon and other places

around the region have been counting their result will stop by law, they

cannot send in projections until just before 10pm. At 10pm, the

returning officer will want to contest this. If everybody is happy

at 10pm, we could get a result quite soon after. Brian Taylor is in

Scotland. Good evening. What is the likely effect of what happened on

Thursday in the local election, that massive victory for UKIP, well, not

massive, but the sensational bridgehead of UKIP, what likely

effect will that have on Scotland? There have been talk about whether

they will win a seat in Scotland or not `` there has been. We are

electing six members of the European Parliament from Scotland. The

turnout looks at about six points up from last time. Currently about 34%.

But it is up. In terms of the UKIP effect on the question asked in

Scotland is with regard to the referendum on independence. Stand`by

the SNP diagnosing that the body politic in Scotland is in a

different condition to the body politic south of the border and

prescribing, guess what, independence. But if UKIP do take a

seat, perhaps the six Scottish seat in Edinburgh, then stand by for UKIP

saying that it proves they're not just an English party. Maybe they

would do it through clenched teeth. It isn't so much out of line with

the rest of the UK and the UK claim. You have no local elections in

Scotland on Thursday, only the European elections. Is it down from

five years ago? It is up, and the turnout was 27, and now it looks at

about 34. A wonderful advert for democracy with only a third of

people turning up. It shows politics in Scotland is rather feeble Ryle

because of the pending referendum that is washing through into a

greater interest into the European elections. I'm right in thinking we

won't have result from Scotland this evening? We do not get a formal

result. We will have indications. 31 out of 32 local authorities will be

declared in this room behind me tonight. That is from ten o'clock

onwards. The 32nd is in the Western Isles, and they do not count on a

Sunday because of the religious beliefs of many in the community,

which means the absolute formal, final result will not be declared

until high noon tomorrow in Edinburgh but we should get a strong

indication given that we will have virtually every council and the

Western Isles electorate is small. Will you be able to give us the

indication, or is it secret until you get in? We will have a pretty

good point at night. There is no law against that. That is one freedom

retain. Brian, thank you very much. Emily? I want to remind people that

this is a broadly proportional system on a different to the local

elections. They have 73 MEPs, and each of the regions are allocated a

specific number. If I show you a result from last time round, the

Southeast region, then the Conservatives got four, then UKIP

and the Lib Dems, `` four. A dreadful night for Labour back in

2009, one of their worst electoral nights ever. If I show you the map,

it is how the map colours up according to the highest share of

the vote. Example, you can see a wash of blue, just tiny little

pockets brightening for the Green party. Slough is the only bit where

the Labour Party topped the poll. What will happen to night? We might

see resurging red, or will it turn UKIP purple? Brian Taylor was just

talking about Scotland, and I can show you what happened last time

round. The SNP at the top of the board but Labour also with two MEPs.

This battle for first place will be very closely watched for any signal

of what direction Scotland might be going in and of the referendum. This

is the map, showing you the highest share of the vote. A lot of it is

SNP yellow. These conurbations here, what will happen here? Will we

see UKIP getting a result? Will one of the columns turn purple? It's not

impossible. Nigel Farage has his sights on a seat, but the battle for

first place will probably be the thing we cannot take our eyes off.

We will be back with Emily right through the night. We will be

looking at the British regions and countries. The last time the

European elections were fought were 2009, so if seats change hands to

night, or one party takes votes from another and we talk about a change

in the share, we are measuring it against elections five years ago and

not the general election in 2010. It was a very different time, and here

is a reminder of what life was like in 2009 in British politics, the

year in which Gordon Brown's Labour Party was at its lowest ebb and MPs

of all parties were opening newspapers expecting to read about

their expenses. Are very happy New Year, 2009 excavation mark the UK is

in recession for the first time since 1991. Unemployment has risen

above 2 million. This government has announced the biggest rise on the

dog uses business `` records began. Businesses must have access to

credit. The interest rate has been cut again and stands at an all`time

low of 0.5%. There are lots of people suffering

through lack of money at the moment, so why should MPs get away with it?

These days I really `` rarely meet anyone who wants to be an MP when

they grow up. There are things he has done recently to make him feel

ashamed to be a Lambert `` Labour member of Parliament. This morning

the Communities Secretary resigned from the cabinet following the

announcement yesterday that the children's minister is standing

down, the minister that the Cabinet Office is leaving and the Home

Secretary is resigning. Why doesn't the Prime Minister accept that his

ability to command his cabinet has simply disappeared? James Purnell,

the Work and Pensions Secretary, is resigning from the government in

order to force a leadership ballot. And this time we have come second

nationally, so we are pleased. Perfectly clear that the Labour

Party have come third behind UKIP. Nicholas John Griffin from the

British National party. There are two BNP MEPs elected. All of the

other parties have been condemning this and blaming themselves.

Vernon Bogdanor, another professor, and a keen student of British

politics, you remember 2009. What difference will it make, do you

think, to the vote on Europe five years later? We have been talking a

lot about UKIP, but the question is whether the Labour Party can win

these elections. If it doesn't, it will be the first time since 1984

that the opposition of the day has not won the European elections. Neil

Kinnock managed to win those elections in 1989 even though he

could not win in 1992. So if UKIP defeats labour, that would be a

particular problem for the opposition if they cannot defeat the

government in, as it were, an off year. That is something we need to

look at carefully. Are there special circumstances for the rise of UKIP

which none of the other three can do much about? All three parties are

very rattled by UKIP and they don't yet know how to combat it. And, of

course, it has important implications for the British

election next year, because it is looking as if UKIP will block both

the Labour Party and Conservative Party from securing a majority and

we will get another hung parliament. But it might not be a manageable

hung parliament like the one we had in 2010, but a highly fragmented one

with a number of small parties and the two major parties, so it becomes

very difficult to form a viable government. 2009 was a die a year

for the Labour Party. They have to pick up a year `` a bit. But the

Conservatives could go into third if UKIP and labour fight for the first

two places, which I think will be the first time the Conservatives

have ever come third in a national election. Absolutely. In every

national elections since the party was formed it has come first or

second. Well, we will deal with the consequences of that shortly. Megan

Green is also here. Why is your company called Maverick

intelligence? Off the wall? Different? Able to think outside the

box. The collapse of the economy both here and in Europe. How much is

that influencing the way people are thinking about the European Union

and what they want to say to the European Union, perhaps, as opposed

to what they want to say to their own governments? European Parliament

elections are always used as a protest vote across Europe, but this

year economics will really matter. We've gone through a massive global

financial crisis but also an existential crisis in the Eurozone.

A lot of the votes for extreme parties, particularly on the right

of the spectrum, will be protests against Eurozone or EU membership.

Will it have any effect? Extreme parties will not win and they won't

control the parliament may cannot agree on much. In terms of actually

affecting policy, it will be difficult. The one thing on which

they agree is they are against the transatlantic trade and investment

partnership. An agreement which is a free trade agreement between the EU

and US which is being negotiated now which could further delay the

completion of the negotiations. It's meant to be a deficit neutral way of

providing a stimulus for the US and EU, and the EU could benefit from

that. It delay will hurt the EU economically. I said at the

beginning of the programme that some European Union countries had been

teetering on the verge of collapse. Are they still teetering? Or do you

think the Eurozone is stable for the moment? Plaintiff has changed. Now

it has changed. The most likely scenario is that we have a Japanese

style scenario, it is given but a different story. It sounds pretty

dreadful? That is one backdrop. But the thing about the United Kingdom

was the terrible situation with the Labour Party. They had just had the

expenses scandal, a change of leadership, it was a tradable

background. It is why they came up with less than 16% of the vote. ``

terrible background. They the general election. He got

trounced. It is perfectly possible to when European elections but few

people seem to think the matter very much. The have no consequence. The

polls are closed the EU, because in half an hour. Here is the latest

David, thank you. Video footage of the gunman who shot

dead three people at the Jewish Museum in Brussels yesterday has

been released by police. An Israeli couple and a French woman were

killed in the attack and another person was seriously injured. Duncan

Crawford reports. The moment of horror when a gunman

walked into the Jewish Museum in Brussels. The blurred image in the

doorway behind him is one of his victims. Captured on security

camera, the man pulls out a Kalashnikov and opens fire. The

people inside had no chance. He then packs up his things and seemingly

walks calmly away. Today the Jewish community mourned its dead. The

victims were all shot in the neck and face and included an Israeli

couple, a French woman and a Belgian man. Many are in shock but not all

are surprised. We are very sad and disappointed to hear about this

event but not surprised. People on the street say 'go back to Israel'

and things like that. We see it on a daily basis. We understood something

terrible might happen. Police are investigating a number of motives

but their main line of enquiry is that it was an anti`Semitic attack.

Security has now been stepped up at synagogues and other Jewish sites

across the country. It has now been over 24 hours since the shooting

took place at the museum and police appear to be struggling to identify

the killer. Prosecutors say whoever carried out this attack was well

prepared and probably acted alone. They are calling on the public to

help. The Jewish community in Belgium is 40,000 strong and its

leaders have recently reported a rise in hate crimes. Police hope the

release of CCTV images will help track down the killer. Nobody has

claimed responsibility for the attack. For the moment, the gunman

remains at large. Thousands of students have gathered

for a candle`lit vigil at the University of California to remember

the six people killed by the British`born student Elliot Rodger.

The 22`year`old stabbed his three house`mates and shot three other

people in Santa Barbara. Rodger, whose father is a Hollywood film

director, was later found dead in his car.

It's the final half hour of voting in the fourth and final day of the

European elections. The estimated turnout across the 21 nations voting

is just over 43%. In France, the far right National Front party leader

Marine Le Pen says there's been a surge in support for her

anti`immigrant, Euro`sceptic party. She called for the dissolution of

the French National Assembly, saying it no longer represented the French

people. The businessman Petro Poroshenko

claims he's won the Ukrainian Presidential election. Exit polls

suggest the confectionery billionaire ` who's known as the

"chocolate king" ` won more than 55% of the vote in the first round.

President Obama has made a surprise visit to troops in Afghanistan. Air

Force One landed at Bagram Air Field, north of Kabul, which serves

as America's main base in the country. After meeting military

leaders, the President said he was close to a decision about the number

of American troops who will remain in Afghanistan beyond 2014. He told

troops that the US was planning a limited military presence once a

bi`lateral agreement is signed. The Pope has invited the Palestinian

and Israeli presidents to visit him in the Vatican together to pray for

peace. The offer ` which has been accepted by both leaders ` was made

as the Pontiff continued his three`day visit to the Middle East.

Today he prayed at the concrete barrier Israel is building in and

around the West Bank. Thailand's new military rulers are

reported to have released the former Prime Minister after she was

detained. A source told the BBC that she had been told not to involve

yourself in politics. We'll have more news updates

throughout the night. Now back to David Dimbleby.

The key to understanding how the European Parliament what is how to

understand how it is formed. Once they reach the European Parliament,

the group. `` they group. It is the largest selector that apart from

India. The groupings matter. Here is a look at the construction of the

parliament. The groupings are other things to watch. Ten years ago, this

is what happened. The carnivals will help us tonight. `` colours. The

biggest single grouping in 2004 was the European People's party. You can

see UKIP improbable. `` in purple. 56 for the others. You can just form

a group because you want to. You need seven different nationalities

and 25 MEPs minimum. If you do not have an off then you can end up with

a bunch of other ministers who do not believe in what you believe in.

Here are the levels. 88. `` Liberals. Greens, 42. 200

socialists. 41 harder left. The British Conservatives were in this

grouping. But they decided it was not raped when enough. `` right wing

enough. I will change the chamber. This is the ECR. Conservatives

setting it up. 54 MEPs. You have got some fragmentation. The question is

one of the British Conservatives can keep this together. That is all

going to be discovered by the results in the United Kingdom and

elsewhere. Five years ago, the date for liberals. `` there were 84

Liberals. 35 on the hard left. One more point. The biggest grouping

gets the chance to choose the new looking commission president. ``

European Commission. It could be a lift when politician from Germany,

and our candidates. `` other candidates. There we are.

Thank you. About the Conservatives, if they shrink, the blues. `` they

lose. What would they do then? I don't think they need to be worried

about eating enough seats. `` getting. If we look at the polls,

they may not have seven countries but they would have enough seats,

they would have to find new friends in Europe. We probably will have

parties willing to join but these are parties who are not mainstream

parties. What repercussions will that have, domestically, if the go

with anti`immigrant parties and other parties in Finland and like

that. But they would not rejoin other parties? I think that is

unlikely. David Tanner media promise. He said he would take as

MEPs out of the European People's party. At the time, William Hague

told him not to do it but David Tamblyn use that promise to back him

and not Liam Fox. `` David Cameron. Good evening Matthew. At the moment

we have been given that motorcycles. `` the turnout figures. They said

they have reversed the trend of falling tonight. 43.1% is the

estimated time out. `` turn out. Last time round it was 43%. They

have gone up 0.1%! What is the gossip about what is happening in

Europe? You are talking about the political groupings. A spokesman has

been saying that they are pretty confident that they have won this.

The biggest grouping in the parliament. They do not have an

outright majority. But they are looking at the figures and they seem

pretty confident. At the same time, the leading candidate for the

Socialists and the Democrats, he says he could form a working

majority. It is not going to be sorted out tonight, it will take

many days and many weeks. I have been talking to some UKIP

spokespeople. They seem pretty confident. They think they will be

able to hold the group together in the European Parliament. And also

keep the Danish People's party, rather than them defecting to join

the Conservatives. Also interesting to see the results in Portland. ``

Poland. British MEPs are the largest number in that grouping. Poles are

second. Could they overtake? Is your impression, whatever happens on the

right and on the left, disaffected for different reasons, that the

centre of the European Parliament, the Conservatives and the

Socialists, will hold together and go on pushing the project as they

see it? The consensus is that the extreme right and the extreme wet,

there are such deviations, they will not be able to form any sort of core

student group that will be able to push this Parliament in a different

direction. `` extreme left. The centre`right and the centre`left are

going to have to listen if there is a big tonight for the parties which

represent the extremes. The dissatisfaction. If there is a big

tonight, for those parties, the centre groups are going to have to

listen. I have an interesting anecdote. I was walking along and I

bumped into the leader of the liberal group, a seasoned politician

and former Prime Minister of Belgium. I asked him if he was

worried about the usual sceptics. He had a flippant comment but he said I

want to reform, so that by a lot of people across the political spectrum

talking about reform. We will just have to see the winners take that.

Have they ever really listened? To the objections? A lot of people

would argue that they haven't. Voters have rejected this or that

treaty. Vote us then just accept the treaty. An awful lot of people,

tonight, it looks as though if the polls beforehand have been at it,

they will express discontent. Is that going to stop the

Federalist... It is written into the DNA. That some people, when you make

directory speeches, that they have to listen to the voices. If they

don't, the project will risk collapse. Let's go to Warsaw,

Poland. What is the story there? Good evening. It's interesting to

hear Matthew talk about the European Conservatives and reformists. The

leader of the law in Justice party, who aligns himself with the European

Conservatives and reformist, he has come out saying that his party has

had the best result ever, his words. However, the Prime Minister, and

also the leader of Civic Platform, they align themselves with the

European People's party and they say they will have to wait until they

get the full results to know the full picture. There is a new kid on

the block, so to speak. There is a new party being led by the

incredibly controversial leader who is highly Eurosceptic. He is leading

the Congress of the new right and has come out saying that Poland is

marching in the right direction. Whatever direction Poland is Mark ``

marching in, one thing is sure, this country is infamous for a low

turnout. The pastor European Parliamentary elections at the title

of second lowest with Slovakia having the lowest turnout and

unfortunately, from the figures we hear now, it will once again be

crowned with a low turnout. You think the people of Poland are not

interested in what goes on in Brussels, or don't think they're

both will have an effect? What is the turn of the national elections

in Poland. It's interesting you should say that. Poland is seen as a

success story for the European Union. Even throughout the financial

crisis, the GDP continued to grow. But it is still growing. It is still

growing. It's going the right way. But unemployment remains stubbornly

high, between 13 and 14%, which relates to 2 million people out of

work. That means there is a high number of people who leave the

country, the skill shortage, a brain drain that the country can't afford.

The billions of euros they get from the structural funds, they need to

invest those into maintaining innovation and to bring this country

away from being a catch`up economy and into innovation. Generally, from

the people I've spoken to, there are people who are happy the direction

this country is going into. The problem the politicians have is that

they cannot galvanise people to vote. They cannot get people into

the polling booths. Tonight could turn out to be a defining moment in

the history of Britain's relationship with the European

Union. It's a relationship that has seen many, many ups and downs which

you might well remember. We must recreate the European family in a

regional structure. Or it may be the United States of Europe. A

staggering blow dealt to Western unity in this Council in Brussels

when France blackball is Britain from the common market. Britain, I

hope you will agree, has much to contribute to this process and, as

members of the community, we shall be better able to do so. The power

to govern ourselves must remain with the British people. You are asking

the British people to destroy themselves. Yes is now showing at

67% and no at 33%. The Commissioner said at the press conference the

other day that he wanted the European Parliament to be the

democratic body of the body, and he wanted the Council ministers to be

the Senate. No, no, no. It's rather like sending your opening batsmen to

the crease only for them to find that the moment the first ball is

bowled that their bats have been broken before the game by the team

captain. The government has concluded that Britain's best

interest are best served by suspending our interest in the ERM.

Like me all those leaked, don't bind my hands when I'm negotiating on

behalf of the British nation. `` like me or loathe me. Ministers and

bureaucrats saw their long dream for a single currency turn to reality

today for nearly 300 million people across Europe. Fierce clashes

continue tonight in Athens after Greek MPs voted to impose tax

increases and spending cuts in an attempt to avoid bankruptcy. Well,

Emily is up on the platform with some people who have seen the ups

and downs of our relationship with Europe. Isabel Harding from the

Spectator and Andrew lawn sleep are here. Let's discuss where we think

Britain's relationship with the EU is heading tonight. Do you feel

comfortable, Andrew, calling the UKIP vote a protest vote still? No,

I think it reflects something deeper and something longer than that.

Looking at your film, you remember the referendum in the early 1970s,

Margaret Thatcher was a great evangelist for joining the common

market as it was then. Now, of course, she is the pin`up girl of

those many conservatives and UKIP supporters who want to be out of the

European Union. If you are looking at a long`term trend in British

politics, certainly on the right of the politics it's slightly different

than the left. But on the left there has been a drift where if I said

Tory are pro`European, who are you left with? You have Kenneth Clarke

are many run out of names, and they are running out of it of time. Even

when Nick Clegg talks about European says that he wants reform as much as

anybody else. There's nobody feels solid saying it's all going fine? A

crib or no, it's one of those that politicians have to acknowledge the

worries over. What is interesting about Conservative MPs and what they

have found on the doorstep is the voters who normally go Conservatives

say they will vote UKIP this time not because they're just angry but

because they think this will help David Cameron when he renegotiate 's

the negotiations. A British delusion, but I think they probably

think that. Do you think that the UKIP vote is just about Europe now?

I don't think so. It's about the politician 's failure to connect

with the electorate, their failure to speak humanly. Although there are

obvious complaints about Europe that remote, but it is a proxy for wider

and deeper things. Anger with elites of all sorts, whether political or

financial, and expressing the rage filled by a lot of people with a

changing world which leaves them feeling insecure or left behind.

They think other people are doing better and to be fair to the EU,

it's not all their fault. Some of it might be, but not all. This is an

opportunity where you can fire all the rage at, whether you're

government or personal circumstances, you can fire it at

the EU. The problem for mainstream politicians is responding to UKIP,

and it appeals to voters because it's rough around the edges. You

can't have a personality transplant and start talking like Nigel Farage.

That would be very weird. If Ed Miliband is worried about being

weird... Will Nigel Farage end up sounding like the others? Some

people say in a rather phoney way, he is a former man from the city

went to private school but has had a brilliant way of posing as the

champion of the ordinary man. As long as he is the antiestablishment

insurgent, he establishes some profit from that. He can then

denouncing people as all is the same elite. The danger that some people

is that he might become a bit more conventional than a bit more

establishment and he loses part of his appeal. If UKIP will not fizzle

away, they have to do the delicate balancing act between coming more

than a protest party which is serious about MPs, but not losing

the essential appeal by being the gorilla force. You have to get from

the pint of beer to the bacon sandwich without a hiccup. You can

look at Boris Johnson as an example of a mainstream politician who

connect with voters who is his own man. He is posh, unashamedly posh,

and voters respect him that rather than pretending anything else. He is

a one`off. The only one who can pull the trick. What do you think that

this point the parties will look at? They are all running around like

headless chickens saying this is the new direction. What should they be

looking for? David Cameron monster show his party he is serious about

immigration reform. He has some reforms he can dig out to show the

Tory right. In terms of labour, at the beginning of the campaign, some

of them are quietly confident they might win the poll, but they are

less confident now. In a way, Nigel Farage told us he would win last

week so he had better win to keep the momentum going. The Liberal

Democrats are just trying to avoid annihilation will be pleased ending

up with just four MEPs. Back with us later, but now, to David. We have

about three minutes before we get the first results at ten o'clock.

What will you be watching out for? Above all, who comes first. His

Nigel Farage right UKIP will top the poll, or are Labour right. If it is

right, how badly third World Conservatives come? Would they come

third in the heartlands like the south`east of England? Finally, the

Liberal Democrats, do they end up in fifth place behind the Greens? Each

of the placings are important. From the European point of view, what

will you be watching for as the first thing? It will be how well do

the antiestablishment, Eurosceptic parties doing big countries like

France and Italy where they will determine the composition of the

parliament. The second thing I will look for is the balance of power

between the centre`right groups and the centre`left. Can the centre`left

make inroads and maybe even topped the poll? Where is the strongest

anti`European project feeling in Europe outside of Britain? In terms

of where they will do the best in the polling, we think that is in

France and in the UK. That is where you think it will be. We can find

out from Sunderland how quickly we expect to get the result. Can we do

that? Hello, David. How soon do we think we will get a result up there?

Well, it is just ten o'clock, and we expect that certainly in the next

half hour we will get the news from here of a declaration. What will

happen is we will get the local declaration from Sunderland, and as

you know, they pride themselves for getting early declarations. They are

in the hands of 11 other councils up and down the north`east, but they do

hope to have a declaration in the north`east by 10:30pm. That is the

smart money at the moment. Thank you very much. Well, we have 25 seconds

to go. Briefly, Vernon. I will be looking to the answer for two

questions, what Europe do people want to live in, the moderate left

or right? And the second question, do they want to live in a European

Union at all? As suggested, Britain is becoming more European in its

euro scepticism, all Europe is becoming more British. It is 10pm.

The news we have at this stage is that in France the exit polls are

saying the far right Front National, Le Pen, have come top of the pole in

France. And in Greece, the radical left say Reza coalition appeared to

have won. In Germany, on the other hand, Angela Merkel's centre`right

Christian Democrats stay on top even though it looks as though

Eurosceptics have one maxi tear. Let's have a look at some of the

results with Jeremy. Let's look at the 2009 results. The

circle will show you the proportions of votes. Let's have a look at the

share of the vote in 2009 for France. This is last time, not

tonight's result. UMP, the centre right party.

Among the others on 24% would have been Front National. Let me give you

extra polls from today and show you what we think is happening. It

represents a big jump forward for the Front National and Marine Le

Pen. They have got their own column and they seem to be in first place,

according to the exit poll. Second place, down quite a few points is

the UMP. This is France were mourned's party down to 14%.

Francois Hollande's party. The Greens down 9%. Substantial turnout

for others. Some of the vote that was going to the two biggest parties

has led away, particularly to Front National.

One thing, a word about exit polls. We are used to them not being

accurate in the sense that they are asking people how they did but these

tend to be accurate, is that right? Historically they do in European

elections. Whether it is because of the patterns of voting, they seem to

be robust and we do not see them fluctuate. They are pretty good

predictions. Are laid on the same way as our exit polls? `` are they.

It varies across countries. Some people ask people and others have

similar ways as we do. How long until we get the official result's

in France, I do not know. The politicians seem to be responding

that it will be close to the final result.

This is a big upset? Seismic, in terms of the Socialist Prime

Minister tonight. He was stressed in lack. `` he was breast in black. He

talked about a political earthquake for the European Union. You have had

the exit poll results. On early projections, Front National has

taken 25 seats out of a possible 74. In 2009 they had just three seats.

It is a resounding result for them and the first time they have

finished as the top party in a national vote. It has been a

disastrous night for the Socialists, 15% of the vote which

equals 13 seats. France Warhol on calling an emergency cabinet meeting

for the morning at 830 AM. `` France Warhol on. There was a grim meeting

for the UMP as well this evening. They have voted in eight regions.

There is some evidence that 30% of the under 35 is have voted for FN.

Unemployment is high in France but it is well over 20% for young people

in this country. That speaks of their disillusionment in mainstream

politics and also, blue`collar workers. I was in the steel belt

last week and many of them said they would vote for Front National. It

shows they have co`opted the working class vote and the young vote around

the country, particularly in Socialist areas, where the Socialist

party has not been performing well. Why has the young people's vote gone

to the Front National? It is a number of reasons. First,

austerity. I said about unemployment, 11%. There is the

power of spending. And then, of course, the recovery. If they look

at the rate of growth it has been anaemic, compare it to how growth is

recovering in Britain and Germany. Immigration is a big issue. Pretty

much right across the line, people are talking about the reform of the

Schengen zone. Nicolas Sarkozy re`entered the fray saying that we

needed a slimmer Europe and that they wanted to reform Schengen and

if not, they would pull out of it. Sadly, the FN would echo that. It is

a lack of trust. I was standing two years ago in this same spot watching

Francois Hollande coming up the same spot, but tonight his party have

been swept away by the FN and it is because people do not believe in his

policies. 850,000 households paid tax for the first time last year and

he was telling them that the top 10% of the country would take the hit.

They feel very badly done to and they do not have much trust in the

Socialist leadership. I am told you may have a guest, is that so? Yes,

we need to just have him an earpiece.

It is worth remembering the shock of Front National winning this. Nigel

Farage said he would not form an alliance with Rela pen and he said

they were racist. `` Marine Le Pen. We sought Nigel Farage a moment

ago. It is interesting, this French thing. Will this be outside Britain

the most spectacular result of the night? I think so, and one that will

shake up French politics. It may be similar to the UK. They are not

going to take over the Prime Minister real post or presidential

post but they will shift mainstream parties. We saw Nicolas Sarkozy

saying, we want a different Schengen. They are trying to pick up

on one of the main messages, and Thai immigration. It is not about

Europe, it is about immigration in France. That is something the

mainstream parties are picking up on to win back the voters. Would

immigration become something here in Britain and France, leading to a

change in the rules? The whole idea of the European Union was freedom of

movement across borders within Europe. It is at the heart of it.

This is the absolute problem, that freedom of movement is part of the

Treaty of Rome signed in 1957, when you had just six founder members in

Western Europe. They all had a similar standard of living. Now you

have a large number of countries, many much poorer than Western

Europe, so immigration is an issue. France has been Eurosceptic for the

last few years. They only ratify the Maastricht Treaty recently. They

turn down the Constitutional Treaty of 2005. They no longer lead

Europe. It has been Eurosceptic for a long period of time. The

politicians are not taking notice. Somersaults beginning to come

through from the local authorities is that right?

These are just the first few. Although these MEPs are allocated by

region, we vote on local authorities. I will show you the

local authority as it comes through. This is catering will stop UKIP is

topping the share of the vote. They are up 19%. A bit of a rise for

Labour but really outstripped by what we are seeing for UKIP. The

Greens in fourth place, and no sign of the Lib Dems.

In Sunderland, Labour has got the lion 's share of the vote. Not be

far `` not far behind, UKIP. They have made the bigger gain. The last

one, in the south`west, we will go for a declaration.

Our first declaration from Sunderland.

I am the returning officer for the European parliamentary election held

on 20th May two, 2014, hereby declare the votes cast for the

north`east region is as follows... `` 22nd May. UK Independence Party,

13,934. British National Party, 10,360. Conservative Party, 107,733.

English Democrats, 9279. Green Party, 31,605. Labour Party,

221,988. Liberal Democrats, 36,093. UK Independence Party, 177,660. I

will now allocate the seats for the region. With regard to the first

date, the party with the highest number of votes cast is Labour

Party. The first suit will be allocated to Jude darling. `` seat.

With respect to the second seat, having applied the formula, the

party with highest of votes cast is UK Independence Party, UKIP. The

seat will be allocated to Jonathan William Arnott. For the allocation

of the third seat after applying the formula, the party night with the

highest number of votes cast is Labour Party. The third seat will be

awarded to Paul Brannen. All three seats are now allocated and I hereby

declare the following have been Julia elected for the Northeast

region. `` Julia elected. Three seats only from the north`east

and you can see the complexity of the system, the way they we have one

and then they are reallocated. Let's have a look at the share of the vote

in the north`east. Labour, up 11 percentage points. UKIP, up 14

percentage points from 2009. The Conservatives down a bit and the

Liberal Democrats stand 12 percentage points. A dramatic

collapse for the Liberal Democrats confirming that in the North of

England, where they thought they would be the opposition to Labour,

they have been replaced by conservatives but by UKIP. `` not by

Conservatives. We have seen that UKIP can perform well but also it

confirms a good performance for a Labour. But a differential, UKIP are

going up more than Labour. If that is the pattern across the country,

UKIP will win the country as a whole. It is worth noting the

collapse of the BNP vote. People remember Nick Griffin on question

Time. He soared briefly but this is the moment for the collapse is

confirmed. This is our first result from Great Britain and it is Labour

one point up, one seat up, Liberal Democrats, one down, Conservatives,

one down, UKIP, one up. What you make of this result? UKIP are up

more than Labour. If the changes since last time which changed across

Britain, UKIP or comfortable you come first, Labour second,

Conservatives third. The question is, will it be like that? We just

have the declaration from Sunderland and in Sunderland itself on Thursday

UKIP some more results from other parts

of England, but it is certainly highly consistent with UKIP coming

first, Labour second, Conservatives three. Emily, you have more results

coming in. Even though they don't give a certain result of they give

is an indication. This is the first indication we have had from Wales, a

solid Tory heartland and you see a dramatic picture emerging. The

Conservatives still top on 29% but just one percentage point below the

Ms UKIP. They are the ones making the gains, up 15%. Labour making

some gains but dwarfed by the huge purple area for UKIP stock that's

the first one we've had in from Wales and I will show you glossed as

well. UKIP are at the top with a 32% share of the vote. Again, gains

Labour, flat the Conservatives and a drop there. I will just take you to

Poole in Dorset, but right down on the South Coast, you can see UKIP,

with nearly 40% share of the vote. The Lib Dems Dems losing out. Modest

gains for Labour, but once again, this is the story starting to

dominate the results, the extraordinarily strong polling for

UKIP. We are joined by Suzanne Evans, the UKIP communities

spokesman from Westminster. Good evening. On Friday you said that

UKIP had not done well in London because the voters were cultural,

educated and young. I quote your exact words. Am afraid I've been

widely misquoted. I would like to requote myself. I was pose that

question by the interviewer, said that UKIP increasingly

attracted votes from people who are young, culture and educated, and I

like to think I'm two of those by example, so it's good to put the

record straight. I won't ask which of the two you are going for. Please

don't. Usual imagination. `` usual imagination. If UKIP has done as

well as it looks as though it has, and the Front Nationale has done

well, coming top, will you change your view about coming together,

because you have a similar attitude to what should happen? I don't think

we will. We are absolutely not the same. The Front Nationale is an

extremist party, and UKIP is not. We hold the centre ground. It's a shame

that UKIP has been lumped in with these kind of extremist parties that

we see elsewhere in Europe. It's very unfortunate. It says more about

the people making the claims that UKIP. We are the common`sense

centre. We are Eurosceptic. We are certainly not anything like those

parties. I am pretty certain we will not change our mind. But if Le Pen

makes over chores and finds that 21% of France's voting for her `` over

chores. And including the young people, those disaffected because of

unemployment and the way the French economy is going, can't you see a

way of making a common cause with them? What is the extremism that

stops you? Isn't it fascinating that the EU will be shown tonight will be

shown to be a failed project, socially and politically. The EU

claims to be an organisation that has held peace in Europe. In fact

what it has done is accidentally driven these far right extremist

parties to come to the fore. I think we have Francoise Hollande having an

emergency meeting tomorrow and I think David Cameron needs to do the

same if the same issues arise in Britain. It is a failed project.

People don't want a European superstate and the EU should have

seen it coming. 60% of the EU population doesn't even trust the

European Union. What do you anticipate the other three political

parties doing if, indeed, you have come top, and we saw you did do well

in the local elections. What do you seriously think they might do

between now and the general election? They all seriously need to

commit to an immediate in/out referendum on Europe. 2017 is too

little, too late, and we know the David Cameron is only committed to

that if he is Prime Minister of a majority government, which is pie in

the sky. We have already had 3600 different directives from the EU.

How many more are we going to have by 2017? How many more poor

countries from southern Europe will be given free entry into the UK?

Something has to be done and it has to be done urgently. We have heard

all sorts of rhetoric since the local election results about how we

are listening but in reality they're not doing anything and they need to

do something and take action. Thank you for joining us. John Courtis is

in his John Wayne position coming out of the bar. I like the way you

are standing there. What do you think of the results we have had so

far and the way Europe looks like it is going? As far as Europe is going,

these won't be a good night the governments in general. And also it

will be a pretty good night for what we might call anti`system parties,

both left and right. It looks as though the UK will be part of that

club. We saw in the north`east that the UKIP vote went up by two points

more than the Labour vote. Some of the individual council results from

Wales and Gloucestershire are showing bigger gaps. It is obviously

early, but it's beginning to look highly likely that UKIP will come

first and the question is, how far will they come first. Will it still

only be a narrow lead like the north`east suggests, or will it be a

bigger lead, which is what some of the other results from individual

councils are suggesting. That is the fascinating question. For the

Europhile Liberal Democrats, it doesn't look like a good night. You

poll these things very closely. Do you expect to detect any change in

the political party's response to UKIP doing so well, and indeed the

disaffection you described in Europe as a whole. All political parties

are struggling to work out how to deal with this. If they promised a

referendum, that will shoot the UKIP box. But they have grown even

further. We saw the government tried to talk about immigration. It so far

has not succeeded. In truth, none of the political parties are not clear

how they deal with this phenomenon. Thank you very much. On my left is

Andrew Lilley: `` Lillicoe. Are you surprised by the French result? Is

there this `` degree of worry with Europe? In the French context there

was 10% with unemployment stagnant and growth compared to Germany and

the UK the same. A general sense of the same things like austerity,

which the Front National have played against the government to boost

their vote. The Front National have often spiked up to fall away rapidly

and I think there is a question of how long they can sustain this. I

can come back and talk more, but we are going to Chelmsford, Essex, for

the European union result. You have to be patient. In London there are

17 parties standing and they have to read them all out. Let's go to

Chelmsford. The English Democrats got 457. The

Green Party got 3162. The Labour Party 5285. The Liberal Democrats,

3790. No to the EU, 89. UKIP, 16,065.

There were a total of 99 vote rejected. Now turning to the

European Parliamentary election for the Eastern region. I will start by

giving the figures for each party and then I will go through which

seat was allocated. Firstly, the count. What we heard was the local

result from Chelmsford and now we will get the regional result for all

the parties. British National party, fighting unsustainable housing

because we care, 12,465. Christian peoples Alliance, 11,627. The

Conservative Party, 446,569. The English Democrats, 16,497. The Green

Party, 133,331. The Labour Party, 271,601. The Liberal Democrats,

108,000 and ten. No to the EU, yes to workers rights, 4870. The UK

Independence Party, 542,812. There were in total, across the region,

6937 rejected ballot papers. This means then that the seven candidates

elected for the Eastern region not, Patrick James O'Flynn, UK

Independence party. If the candidates would like to join

me on stage, that would be great. The second seat under the system,

Vicky Ford, Conservative Party. The Serb `` third seat, Richard

Stuart Alex, Labour Party. `` Richard Stuart Howitt. The fourth

seed ghosted `` goes to Stuart Agnew, UKIP. The fifth seat is

Jeffrey Holden, Conservative Party. `` Geoffrey Van Auden. The sixth

seed is Tim Aker, UK Independence Party. `` seat. Finally, the seventh

and last for the region ghosted David Campbell Bannerman, the

Conservatives. The turnout was 36.19%. Thank you

very much indeed. 34 UKIP, one Conservative, one Labour Party. That

is the way it has gone. I think the political earthquake that UKIP

promised is firmly underway tonight, and particularly in the

Eastern region. I would like to thank the returning officer, all of

the returning officer, all of accounting staff here and across the

whole Eastern region `` the counting staff. Thank them for the impeccable

way they have run the election. Thank you very much for your time

and efforts. Tonight is such an exciting night. I think that UKIP

has done something quite President Assad. We have topped the poll in

this region. We are all excited to match that across creperie `` has

done something quite unprecedented. `` match that across the country. We

are going to force the pace on the issue. The British people have

spoken and they want control of their nation. They want some of

their money back. They want control of their borders as well. Any party

does not `` that does not hear that message loud and clear is in for

another shock less than a year from now when we fight again at the

general election. I would like to thank the whole UKIP campaign team,

all of those Friday evenings sweating over Pyrex boards. They

have been well worthwhile. The team effort has been fantastic. The

camaraderie has been brilliant. Well, he is thanking his own party

workers, that is Patrick O'Flynn, the first elected MEP for UKIP in

the Eastern region. They got three seats. The Conservatives got to, and

the Labour Party just one. The Conservatives got three, sorry.

Let's have a look at the share of the vote.

A dramatic result for UKIP. Patrick O'Flynn, the man who helped write

the words for Nigel Farage, a former com list with the daily express and

now a member of the European Parliament, he said the earthquake

had happened. He said he was just feeling the fresh tremors. They are

now saying that something is happening. It seems almost certain

they will top the poll in the country as a whole. There is

something interesting going on in the fight for second place. It is

not clear that Labour will necessarily come second. The Tories

have dropped a little bit, Labour significantly help but from the

terrible low base in 2009 during the expenses crisis and a low point for

Gordon Brown, at a moment when members of his own cabinet were

calling for him to quit. Emily Croydon Mac `` Emily? This is the

scoreboard for Great Britain. If you wonder why we are talking to UKIP ``

about UKIP, that is the reason, 32% share of the vote, up 14%. It looks

like the race is between Conservative and Labour for second

place. The Lib Dems are really down, they are tanking and they are

behind the Greens. It is early days and we have only had 33 local

authorities and 350 to go. One other interesting scoreboard is Wales,

where we have had seven local authorities. Labour is top but not

far behind and still the party making the real gains, UKIP in

second place in Wales. They had a seat last time around, one MEP. That

is the Welsh scoreboard. You can see the Lib Dems behind the Greens,

behind Plaid Cymru and the Conservatives at the moment in third

place. Let's join the Conservative MEP for

the Northeast region who lost his seat in Europe. Commiserations. Why

did it happen? The north`east has always been a very strong Labour

area, even in 2010, there second worst result ever, they got most of

the seats. It was always a difficult task to hold on for the Conservative

Party. I have been privileged to do it three times but the fourth time

was not enough, but we were very close. Was there anything specific

about the approach to Europe? UKIP did well in the local elections,

didn't they? Yes, they did. They took a lot of votes of the Labour

Party and some from us as well but ultimately, it is our national

elections that are important and it is not a national swing. It was just

too much of us. We live to fight another day. You were a senior

figure in Europe. It is tough for you. You're the leader of the Tories

in Europe, now you are not. Not any more, I'm not. What will happen if

the Conservative vote goes down? You know the European Parliament well.

In the mysteries of that parliament, how effective will a reduced

Conservative MEP grouping be? I was looking at some of the other

results. There have been some excellent candidates elected from

our party who have had a good MEP delegation. We will continue to be

effective and to work hard for the UK. We will be effective as ever.

How would you like to see it? There is talk about whether you will be

able to remain in a group if you lose many seats. There is no

question about that. You only need 25 MEPs from seven nationalities and

looking at the exit polls, we easily have that. There is no prospect of

us forming a group. We will obviously lose seats from the UK but

from other member states we have done even better, so we will have

more members from more member states than previously. You have heard the

exit polls from France and the rise of the Front National, and the rise

of UKIP here, so what do you think the impact on European Parliament of

a growing disaffection, expressed more strongly than through the

Conservative Party and David Cameron's proposed referendum, what

do you think the impact will be? It is not fair to compere UKIP to the

National Front in France. They are openly anti`Semitic and racist and I

sincerely hope that UKIP will not have anything to do with them. It is

a black day for democracy in Europe that a party as openly racist and

anti`Semitic as the French National front wins an election in a member

state. There is a lesson for the Europe elite in why people are

prepared to vote for such extremist parties. There are lessons to be

learned about that. What are the lessons David Cameron should learn

if he were to pick up the phone to you and say, what should we do about

the UKIP search? What would be your advice? My advice, if he asks, would

be to carry on as ever. We must not get this out of proportion. In the

last European elections, the Labour Party only got 15% of the vote

nationally yet they got 30% of the vote in the general election.

European elections are not a good guide to the general election. It is

important for my party not to, it `` not to panic. The people of the

people will decide at the next election. There is a referendum in

2017. That is the right policy. The next election will not be determined

on European policy. Let's go to Paris and join the

European affairs adviser of the Front National. We have heard from a

Conservative defeated here tonight in Britain that it is a disgrace

that Europe has seen the rise of racist and fascist parties, Front

National at the top of that in France. What is your answer to that?

I am not sure that he has heard me, I will try again. Can you hear me?

Give me a wave. Yes, I hear you. We heard from a conservative in Britain

who has been defeated, lamenting the rise in Europe of as he put it,

racist, fascist parties like the Front National. What is your answer

to those people who are frightened by what has happened in France?

Well, it is a fantastic time for us and an historical time for Europe.

Not for the European Union, but for Europe. There is nothing to answer.

It is a demonisation. These are tricks that are not working any

more. It is a real ant for the people who want to say we need new

policy on national level and European level. This is what the

French did by answering with such a result, that they wanted a change in

France and the European Union. What do you want to see happen in Europe?

It is time that the system listens to the people. It is time that the

Euro federalists listen to the people. In France, the UK, Germany,

everywhere, it is time to change the policies. The people want something

else. We should build Europe in another way, not a federalist

equate. `` federalist weight. You would like to pull out of the euro,

but what about immigration? How would you do that within the EU?

Being against massive immigration does not mean you are racist. Being

labelled as racist is nonsense on a political skill, especially when you

have results in territories where people are not white. It is people

wanting to say that the European Union did not detect its people and

the Schengen Treaty is a failure. People want to see results about

immigration outside our common borders. It is a new deal that we

have, especially on immigration issues or economic issues, which are

a big problem in the European Union. It is a policy you have, but what is

the likelihood of the main parties at the centre of the European

Parliament listening to you and responding in the way you want? We

have identified several parties with whom we want to work and I think it

will happen. There are still some parties getting the final results.

We do not know about the polls in Eastern and Central Europe, for

example. We are very confident about this and the working future we will

have to gather, showing there is another Europe which is possible,

and not this one, which is from the United States to Brussels.

There was less gap on the Sound 50 years ago between France and England

than there is today! Let's have a little look. You will see hundreds

of these local authorities results tonight but this might stick in your

head. We know there is a parliamentary by`election here so

this local authority has been closely watched for signs of which

where that might go. UKIP are standing, Roger Helmer in Newark. If

this is any indication of what will happen at a Westminster level, then

UKIP on 33% share of the vote, up 17%, should be feeling rather

confident about their chances. The Conservatives on 31%, down slightly

and Labour just pushing up. A different voting system, but just

keep it in the back of your mind as you think ahead.

You wanted to say something, Peter? Nick Robinson was saying that Labour

and the Tories ran a close race for second place. I do not think that is

right. UKIP are going to win overall tonight. Those early predictions are

before we have had any big conurbations. We have got Leeds,

Birmingham and Newcastle and in every case Labour have got bigger

votes than in the early declarations. We have yet to get

London, where we think Labour will do well and UKIP badly if the local

elections are a guide. In Scotland, we have got our first result from

Aberdeen. Labour is not by a lot, SNP down not a lot, but perhaps that

will be another scrap. The final scrap, it is possible that the

Greens will beat the Liberals into fourth place. They will get seven or

8%, a little boxing match down for fourth and fifth place.

Harriet Harman joins us. Do you have any inkling yet where you are going

to companies European elections? No, because as you have just heard, a

small number have been announced. I hope we will have a substantial

increase in our share of the vote from 2009. I do hope, also, that we

will, head of the Conservatives. I also hope that we have

representation from MEPs in all regions. That is very important for

Ed Miliband's one nation approach. The Tories have no members of the

European Parliament from the north`east. The other thing I am

hoping for is that we will have no UK BNP members of the European

Parliament. When you say you hope you will come second, it sounds as

though you are not absolutely confident that you will come second?

I am not a soothsayer. I am just thing I hope we will, head of the

Tories. That is just important for us, as well as increasing our

share. We will have to see as the results come in. What is your

impression of the way this European campaign was fought? We have heard

rumblings of a kind about all party leaders since the local elections.

Are you discomfited by the way things went other local elections?

In the local elections, we have massively increased the number of

councillors. At the same time as people were sent to me on the

doorstep, yes, I will vote for your council candidate they were saying,

but we will vote UKIP for the European elections because we need a

shake`up. UKIP have been the symptoms, if you like, of people's

disaffection with politics and they are using their vote in the European

Parliament re`elections to express their dissatisfaction with politics

and we have to respond to that and listen to their concerns, especially

making sure that they feel there is a sense of fairness for them and a

prospect in the future for them against a background of immigration.

Is there then a parallel between what has happened in France and what

appears to be happening here in Britain? The rise of the Front

National, I am not conflating the two, but the feeling that everything

has gone wrong in France, with the rise of UKIP ear? We have got a

different political background. The rupture that there was between

politics and people through the MPs' expenses, there is a lot of

disaffection around that. People feel they have a struggle to make

ends meet and they are being told the recovery is happening, but

people feel they are not getting better off and they are feeling

concerned about that. I think they have taken this European election as

the opportunity to write it down, to give you a shake`up. I think people

are entitled to have confidence in their democratic and political

system and not to feel that nobody is taking their concerns into

account. Editor Davey also joins us from our studio in Westminster `` Ed

Davey. You had a pretty rough time in Kingston with the Conservatives

taking control of the council. Are you worried about keeping your own

seat at the general election? When I got elected in 1997 it was only by

56 votes, and I've never been complacent. Whether we had one on

Thursday night or lost, I will be working hard to my constituents as I

think all MPs should do. These have been disappointing results and it

looks like it will be a disappointing night for us, but that

is the expectation given the polls. I am just proud we fought a positive

campaign and make the case for Europe. Nick Clegg, leading from the

front, taking on the Eurosceptics. It might not have worked just yet.

This is the beginning of the argument, but it is vital the

argument is made and I'm delighted am pleased that it is the Liberal

Democrats making it. But if it is an argument that is rejected, then

what? All mainstream parties now have do help make the argument. I'm

afraid David Cameron and Ed Miliband were absent from the field of play

and were not prepared to make the positive case for Britain in Europe,

even though it is vital for the economy and vital to tackle

international organised crime and to tackle international pollution. We

have to work with other countries. Many of the problems facing our

people are international by their nature. If you don't work with other

countries, you can't tackle them. We need to make the case. It's a

difficult one. A positive case in Britain has been made for so long

but that's why important that Nick Clegg made it. What you say to the

critics in the Liberal Democrat party that say the positive case for

the doom `` Liberal Democrats is not made by leader. There have been

complaints and a lot of supporters signing thing saying that the person

who could get a fair hearing for it is not you, as the loss of so many

councillors demonstrates. Not you, but Nick Clegg. Bacca yellow I

understand what you're saying. I understand that after people have

been working hard in their communities and people represented

as councillors for years in some cases who have lost at the

elections, of course, people will be disappointed. We should celebrate

the work they have done but if you look at the number of people who

signed the letter, it's about 250, some of whom aren't even members of

the party. There are 44,000 members we have now, so this is not to be

taken too seriously. If you look what MPs and council leaders are

saying, they are solidly behind Nick Clegg. He will leaders into the next

election and beyond. That might be changed by the result you get a

night. We hear from the South West region that you've been voted down

7% and you are running in fifth, which means the one MEP you have in

the region, Graham Watson, is likely to lose his seat. That is pretty

grim. Your stronghold of the South West when you fought on the issue of

Europe, and you can't retain an MEP, if that is confirmed. I think you

were saying before the election is that it was going to be a difficult

night for us and those expectations have been confirmed, but if you look

at the local elections where we hold seats, even including my own, but in

lots of seats with places like Eastleigh and Cheltenham and other

places where there are MPs working hard and counsellors working hard,

we have shown we can still win in those seats. And if you look at some

of the predictions from the results and what it means for the next

election we still see a number of Liberal Democrat MPs returning. It's

very important we retain discipline and focus our minds on the key

battles ahead. We have important arguments to make. We have to show

what we've achieved in government. We've worked hard to make sure we

have a stronger economy and make tough decisions, but we also have to

keep a fair society in preventing the Conservatives taking us to the

right. I think we played an important role in the coalition and

we have to make the arguments and show what we have achieved and then

we will be rewarded. Ed Davey, thank you very much. We've talked about

France, but can we have a look at Germany? Let's bring on some of the

globes and targets which show results from last time. You will see

the proportions, somebody like Spain, you can see the proportions

of the parties down at the bottom half of the circle. If I move

forward to what we now have, we have Greece and we will talk in due

course about Greece and the proportions there, the big story

being that the main left`wing party is being pounded and held

responsible for the economic crisis. And quite a lot of results from

northern Europe. We're going to talk about Germany and looking up: Back

here, you see the dark blue. That is the group we were talking about

which will join David Cameron. The governing party is being punished.

What Germany? Let's bring up some of the results in that country and see

what is happening. It's the two leading parties in the grand

coalition, the Christian Democrats and the social Democrats, the

left`wing party. Angela Merkel's party is down a bit, the others up,

but essentially this looks like the vote for the status quo in Germany

with one important rider. You can see that the alternative vote on 7%,

that is actually a new German Eurosceptic grouping and they have

come from absolutely nowhere, up 7%. Let's have a look at the seats for

the parties. You can see again, it is a great reinforcement of Angela

Merkel. Angela Merkel was in coalition with the FTP, who are

amongst the others, getting pounded again in the election. A number of

local issues but also being punished for being a junior partner in the

coalition, not a pleasant place to be. The Greens, seven `` 11, and the

alternative, up to seven. Even Germany one of the most Euro

enthusiastic countries has a party there which is selling

Euroscepticism effectively. What do you make of the German figures,

Sara? One thing worth looking at is that the junior coalition partner

have had a good night. They were hoping for a good night with one of

the top candidates for the post of European president who has been

campaigning. It's a shoe have worked. The other thing as Germany

were saying is that it's the first time we've had a Eurosceptic party

`` it seems to have worked. And just a final thing which has a strong

parallel with the UK is that the Liberals, you did not even see them

on the results board because they are not getting enough votes. The

Liberals in Germany are having a bad night and that is something we are

seeing across Europe, that the liberal group, used to be the

kingmakers, they are not having a good night. Andrew, to what extent

is what's happening in France and Germany consequence of the way the

European economy has gone. We know it is in a turbulent state. Have the

voters sussed this out and decided against control from the centre? The

context is transformed from 2009, no one had heard of the term Eurozone

crisis. That is something that happened since the last elections.

In Germany there has been a relative stagnation. They know unemployment

is low and there is no deficit, but the economy has not been going gang

Buster, and in France, they have the sense that the euro project, which

is associated with austerity and the burden of looking that `` looking at

that seems to be resented. There is resentment of that in Germany as

well. There is a bit of a signal that there might be a line out there

that he would not want to cross in terms of the Franco German axis.

It's not any kind of threat, politically, but it might be a bit

of a signal that it's the kind of concern during a Eurozone crisis

that constrain some actions. Angela Merkel didn't think she had full

freedom to do what she liked. She was aware of the possibility of

stirring up the sentiments. We see a bit of it, but not too much yet.

Emily has an interesting result. Doncaster, a dagger in the hard for

the Labour leader, seeing that UKIP have picked Labour to the post `` a

dagger in the heart. Gains for Labour, up 12%, but the headline

there is that Doncaster has gone for UKIP in terms of the share of the

vote. You have a quick reflection for us on Scotland. The SNP won

narrowly last time, but Labour should come top in Scotland. You

came up in Scotland and maybe enough to get the first UK MEP in Scotland.

Labour are doing how? Looks like they are going up for five points,

the SNP down one or two points, enough to put Labour into first

place. By a lot but given what has happened in Scotland, symbolically,

that is important. Very significant because the polls would have you see

Alex Salmond and the SNP gaining a lot, so if they happened, could you

read across? They are different polls, not the same question, but

people will. The thing about these elections, so many voters don't care

who the MEP is, they look at who is up and down and who is in and is

out. We will join BBC One in a few moments, so if you are watching this

on the BBC News Channel, stay with us. We will be here again. And we

will give BBC One viewers their first taste of what has happened in

the fascinating results we have got through the rise of the Le Pen in

France, the things happening in Germany, and UKIP looking set to get

top of the pole in the UK, and maybe in Scotland, if we get that. Join us

again. The weather is going to be very

changeable tomorrow, so what you have in the morning is not

necessarily what you will have in the afternoon. As far as Sunday was

concerned, a bit more defined, so the weather was fine across the

Midlands, East Anglia, the Southeast, where as many western

parts of the country had shower after shower and some heavy

downpours in places with thunder and lightning. First thing on Monday

morning,