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-Over the past year, -thousands of solar panels... | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
-..have been erected -on the hills of rural Wales. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
-Many viewers -have contacted Y Byd Ar Bedwar... | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
-..to complain about solar farms. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
-We hear from a farmer whose scheme -has been refused permission. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
-This is an ideal location. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
-It's an injustice, -for me and the area. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
-We talk to campaigners who oppose -developments in their communities. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
-People don't want to see -solar panels in such an area. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
-And we hear from the council... | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
-..that feels it has been misled -by green energy companies twice. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
-They promised the world -and did nothing. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
-As the government cuts subsidies -for renewable energy schemes... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
-..will the sun shine again -on the solar industry in Wales? | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
-This solar farm -in Rhosygilwen, Pembrokeshire... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
-..was the first -to be erected in Wales. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
-It has 10,000 panels in all... | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
-..producing enough electricity -for some 300 homes. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
-But since it started to produce -electricity five years ago... | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
-..the number of solar farms in Wales -has exploded. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
-There are now 55 up and running... | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
-..and another 43 have been -granted planning permission. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
-But every scheme -doesn't please everyone. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
-Les Taylor contacted Y Byd Ar Bedwar -to complain about plans... | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
-..to build a solar farm near his -home in Llanvapley, Monmouthshire. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
-I came here and discovered -a notice on the gate... | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
-..that a company -wanted to erect a huge solar park... | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
-..in these fields. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
-The site is near -the Brecon Beacons National Park. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
-Monmouthshire's planning committee -refused the original application... | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
-..because its size and location -would adversely effect... | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
-..the beauty -and quality of the landscape. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
-But the developers' revised scheme -was approved... | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
-..after an appeal -to the Welsh Government. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
-The government decides -and that's it, finished. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
-Yes, it's disappointing, -very disappointing. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
-38,000 solar panels -will be erected here... | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
-..on 66 acres of agricultural land. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
-You live locally, -just down the road. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
-Some might accuse you -of being a Nimby. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
-For me, it isn't just -because I live down the road. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
-It's because I'm determined... | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
-..to protect our countryside. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
-Big companies come to Wales... | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
-..to create -what are industrial sites... | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
-..in the heart of beautiful Wales. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
-Dafydd Jones has also contacted -Y Byd Ar Bedwar in recent months. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
-But he isn't complaining -about a solar farm. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
-He hoped to erect solar panels -on his farm in Cilgwyn, Penygroes. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
-I saw an article -in Farmers Weekly. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
-I phoned them and they were -very keen to come here. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
-They came to see the site -and said it was ideal. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
-It's south-facing, -always in the sunshine... | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
-..and didn't impact upon anything... | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
-..or adversely effect anyone. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
-OK, one or two houses. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
-That's how it started. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:54 | |
-For those 9,000 solar panels -on Parc Farm... | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
-..Dafydd Jones -would be paid rent by Navitas. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
-He says he'd have donated 3,500... | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
-..to the community group -Dyffryn Nantlle 2020... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
-..after the panels were erected. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
-The money they were offering me... | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
-..was probably -a hundred times better every year... | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
-..than I'd get from poor -agricultural land such as this. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
-I'd be paid rent. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
-They'd be making the biggest profit, -while I'd be getting rent. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
-I was very pleased to be getting -a guaranteed income for 25 years. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
-It would take me into retirement, -and well beyond, to be honest. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
-It would have kept us going. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:45 | |
-After hearing of the plan, -many objected. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-According to Helen Hughes -from Carmel... | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
-..solar panels would destroy -the landscape of the Nantlle Valley. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
-We've lived here all our lives... | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
-..and we think the world -of Snowdonia and the scenery. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
-It would be a blot on the landscape. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
-Wherever you went, -you'd see it from afar. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
-When Gwynedd's planning committee -discussed the application... | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
-..she spoke against it. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
-She says that companies -target farmers to make a profit... | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
-..and is worried -what will happen to the panels... | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
-..when the 25-year term is over. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
-But her biggest worry -is the visual effect. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-I'm not against clean energy... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-..as long as it's out of sight, -on level land... | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
-..and low enough -so that no-one can see it. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
-Dafydd Jones claims that many -local people supported the scheme. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
-Gwynedd Council told us... | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
-..that they received 16 letters -supporting the application. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
-The farmer insists that the scheme -wouldn't spoil the view. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
-We're on the boundary -of the Snowdonia National Park. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
-I want to show you -the view of the site from the Park. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
-My site is over there, -in the distance. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
-It points away, -towards the far side. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
-You can't see it at all from here. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
-What you do see from here... | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
-..is the old rubbish tip... | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
-..and hundreds of acres... | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
-..of ugly slate waste -that are left untouched. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
-Behind us here -is the Nebo transmitter... | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
-..and the industrial estate -in Penygroes. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
-All visible from the Park. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
-Do they say anything about those? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
-No, so why pick on me? | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
-Gwynedd's planning committee -rejected the application. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
-They said that the panels would be -seen from the National Park... | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
-..that moorland -would be destroyed... | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
-..and that the scheme would impact -upon a nearby listed building. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
-This is an ideal site. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
-Look at this sunshine, -in the middle of winter. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
-Imagine it in summer, -with no shade of any kind. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
-It's south-facing. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
-Yes, I have suffered an injustice... | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
-..as has the whole area. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:14 | |
-In Llanvapley, it's the objectors -who are feeling let down. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
-The local solar farm -will produce enough electricity... | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
-..to power almost 3,000 homes -for 25 years. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
-The development -is often discussed... | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
-..at the community's -monthly coffee morning. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
-I have mixed feelings. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
-I understand the farmers... | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
-..who effectively see this -as an opportunity to get a pension. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
-But local people -view the development as too big. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
-The reason I'm unhappy... | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
-..is that the solar farm -impacts upon the view. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
-It isn't pretty to look at... | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
-..and this area is very pretty. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
-It's disappointing to see -a solar farm in a place like this. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
-According to Les Taylor, -the local community... | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-..hasn't been adequately consulted -about the solar farm. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
-The first public meeting -to discuss it... | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
-..wasn't held until after -the planning application was made. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
-Have you considered -that you're being selfish here? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
-That farmers may be finding it hard -to earn a living income... | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
-..and may want to make money -by diversifying... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
-..yet you object because it affects -your enjoyment of the area? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
-Well, um, yes. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
-All the villagers support farmers. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
-But if the farmers -don't talk to the local people... | 0:08:43 | 0:08:49 | |
-..especially when they want to erect -something this huge... | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
-..well, there's something wrong. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
-It's very important -for the agricultural world... | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
-..to talk to local people... | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
-..when they want to create -something new. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
-The landowner didn't wish -to comment about the development. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
-The developers, -who are about to start work... | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
-..say they will -meet the community in May. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
-The question is, -where should we erect solar panels? | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
-For me, solar panels -should be on roofs... | 0:09:23 | 0:09:29 | |
-..not covering fields like this. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
-William Miles has been farming -in Pembrokeshire all his life. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
-Three years ago, an energy company -made an application on his behalf... | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
-..to erect 37,000 solar panels -on Trecoed Farm near Letterston. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
-This is one of the three fields -where the solar panels should be. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
-It's a little over 50 acres, in all. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
-The council -refused the original application. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
-After an appeal to the government, -planning was granted two years ago. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
-But there are no solar panels -on his land to this day. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
-The problem we're having... | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
-..is getting a connection -through Western Power. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
-Western Power is meant to connect -the solar farm to the national grid. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
-The company's cables -already cross the land. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
-The 33,000 megawatt power line -crosses the farm. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
-That's why they were so happy -with the site in the first place. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:35 | |
-But Western Power say -they want to upgrade the line... | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
-..and that the company has to pay. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
-In Gisburn, Lancashire, the company -behind the Trecoed scheme... | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
-...is erecting another solar farm. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
-Mark Dickinson -is the head of Energi. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
-He is frustrated by the delays to -the scheme on William Miles's land. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
-We've connected -a number of projects... | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
-..all within the terms stated, -which is normally 12-24 months. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
-That's the typical timeframe -on a written offer. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
-Our other sites have come through -well within that timeframe. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
-Western Power say -that the Pembrokeshire scheme... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
-..is complicated -to connect to the grid... | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
-..because of the terrain -and the lack of local capacity. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
-But Mark Dickinson says -they knew that three years ago... | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
-..before first offering -to connect the farm to the grid. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
-We've waited long enough, we keep -getting fobbed off and pushed back. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
-The date keeps slipping backwards. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
-Every time -we speak to Western Power... | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
-..it's "We'll do some more studies -and get back to you." | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
-Nearly three years on, -we want something better than that. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
-We asked Western Power -for an interview... | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
-..to discuss the development -on William Miles's land... | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
-..but they refused our request. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
-In a statement, -they said that they had connected... | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
-..numerous electricity-generating -schemes across South Wales... | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
-..but that they required major -network improvements in some areas. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
-They added that such improvements... | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
-..require substantial planning -and building work... | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
-..that will take -some years to complete. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
-After the break, the council -that lost out financially... | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
-..because of green energy companies. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
-They made us promises -then didn't deliver. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
-We also ask what is the future -of the solar industry in Wales? | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
-The Westminster government -has attacked the renewable sector. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:46 | |
-No business will invest in these -technologies if they run at a loss. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
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-In Llannon near Llanelli... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
-..this solar park generates enough -electricity to power 1,200 homes. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
-Phil Williams is Chairman -of Llannon Community Council. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
-In 2012, Kinetica Energy gave -a presentation at the council... | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
-..on the benefits of solar farms. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
-They came to us -to ask for support to build it. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
-We did that on condition that -they gave us a community benefit. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
-With such plans... | 0:13:31 | 0:13:32 | |
-..developers can offer -a payment to the local community. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
-According to Phil Williams, the -council were initially offered... | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
-..7,500 a year every year -for 20 years by Kinetica Energy. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
-But the company -then adjusted the offer. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
-They said that instead -of paying 7,500 a year... | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
-..they'd offer 75,000 upfront. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
-In August 2014, a month before -starting to generate electricity... | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
-..Kinetica halved the original offer -to the community council. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
-They now offered 3,000 a year, -over two decades. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
-But six months after the solar farm -started generating electricity... | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
-..there was no sign of the payment. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
-The farm had been built -and we hadn't received any money. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
-So we started -to chase up the community benefit. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
-We've been sending emails... | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
-..since last April. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
-After contacting Kinetica, -the councillors were told... | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
-..that the man they'd been -dealing with had left the company. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
-The solar farm had now been sold. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
-No money would come into -the council's coffers. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
-I was angry that a big company -was making money from these farms. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:53 | |
-They promised things -but didn't deliver. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
-I went to Kinetica Energy's office -in Cardiff. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
-I wanted an explanation from -the company's managing director... | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
-..on the situation in Llannon. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
-I acknowledge there is -a breakdown in communication... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
-..between us and the council - -two ways, not just one. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
-We don't own the asset. -From that perspective... | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
-You've sold it on. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
-You've sold it on. - -We have. That's what our role is. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
-But you hadn't communicated that -to the community council. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
-No. There was no heads of terms, -no agreement. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
-I communicated -with all the stakeholders. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
-Everyone was aware we were selling. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
-In no uncertain terms it was -communicated what we were doing... | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
-..including the local authority. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
-The company insists -no formal contract... | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
-..was signed between them -and the community council. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
-But according to the councillors... | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
-..Kinetica had promised the money -verbally and in emails. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
-It sounds like -you're washing your hands of this. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
-You made an agreement -with the community council... | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
-..so you wouldn't get any local -objection. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
-Once it's passed and built, -you forget about them. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
-There was, as far as I'm concerned, -no live heads of terms. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
-Washing our hands? There's no legal -obligation but there's a moral one. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
-It's one we took seriously. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
-That's why after disposing -of the project to a third party... | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
-..our company went and funded -the solar installation... | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
-..which the community -will benefit from for 20 years. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
-The company has now agreed -to install solar panels... | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
-..on the roof of the community hall -owned by the council. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-The council will save money -on powering the building... | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
-..and will receive -government subsidies... | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
-..for the electricity -the panels generate. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
-But Phil Williams says that will be -far less than the 75,000 offer. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
-Reluctantly, I accepted. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
-I didn't think -we'd receive the money anyway. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
-We've accepted the offer -as a sort of second choice. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
-This isn't the first time -that Llannon Community Council... | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
-..has failed to get their hands... | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
-..on money they expected -from a solar scheme. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
-In 2011, this solar farm -received planning permission... | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
-..on the site -of the old Cynheidre Colliery. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
-In a community meeting -to discuss the plan... | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
-..a representative -on behalf of Walters Group... | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
-..said the council could receive -a gift worth 70,000... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
-..if the solar farm was built. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
-But within a year, -Walters Group got in touch again. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
-They said that changes -to government subsidies... | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
-..meant the payment -had to be reduced dramatically... | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
-..to one payment of 2,000. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
-The community council still hasn't -received a penny from the company. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
-Walters Group only own the land. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
-Another company, -Lightsource Renewable Energy... | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
-..own the solar farm. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-They're the ones responsible -for paying the community council. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
-Lightsource told us they paid 2,000 -to Carmarthenshire County Council... | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
-..last November -to split with the community council. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
-Carmarthenshire County Council -confirmed that to us. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
-But five years after the solar farm -received planning permission... | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
-..Llannon community council -still hasn't benefited. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
-Phil Williams now feels that strict -and clear regulations are needed... | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
-..to ensure communities benefit -when solar farms come to their area. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
-I think it's a good idea for -the government to look into it... | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
-..to see if they can do anything -legal to force them to do it. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
-We took Phil Williams' complaint -to the government... | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
-..and asked what were councils' -rights in situations like this. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
-In a statement, -the Welsh Government... | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
-..said there was nothing -they could do to force companies... | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
-..to keep to promises -made to the local community. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
-They encourage -renewable energy developers... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
-..to consider best practice -in terms of community inclusion... | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
-..and community benefits -arrangements. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
-However, such arrangements -are voluntary. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
-They also emphasized -that Westminster... | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
-..is responsible -for solar energy subsidies... | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
-..and that they'd been cut -significantly over recent years. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
-Kinetica say -that this is what's led... | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
-..to having to change terms with -community councils like Llannon. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
-The exposure to Kinetica -was one of funding a scheme... | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
-..we weren't sure was going to be -subsidised by the government. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
-On that basis, -we adjusted what we were doing. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
-That's a problem for your company... | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
-..not the community council -who believed they had an agreement. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
-It's a problem for the industry. -Therein lies the distinction. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
-This isn't just about developers. -We're not rapacious developers. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
-We work with stakeholders, -of which the local council is one. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-There were others involved, -all of which are happy. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
-I take your point and what -needs to be distinguished here... | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
-..is that the government has moved -the goalposts on the industry... | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
-..and on developers like us. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:08 | |
-In Cardiff Bay, some are calling -for energy policy to be devolved. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
-Llyr Gruffydd... | 0:20:13 | 0:20:14 | |
-..sits on the Environment -and Sustainability Committee there. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
-He says -that Cardiff Bay politicians... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
-..have a different mindset -regarding green energy schemes. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
-The Westminster government... | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
-..has basically -attacked the renewables sector... | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
-..since winning the General Election -in May. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
-They've cut subsidies -and changed the rules. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
-They, in London, are looking to -invest more in fracking and nuclear. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
-In my view, these methods -won't allow us... | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
-..to fulfil our climate change and -environmental obligations in Wales. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
-But the North Wales Assembly Member -says that solar farms... | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
-..can be an important part -of the energy mix in Wales. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
-Every industry -has to be self-sufficient. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
-At the moment, no energy sector - -nuclear or whatever... | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
-..is free from relying on subsidies. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
-From providing subsidies, -you allow that technology... | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
-..to become more commonplace -and affordable. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
-If energy was devolved to Cardiff -Bay, would you be in favour... | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-..of increasing subsidies -for solar schemes? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-I'd be in favour of creating -a financial framework... | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
-..which allows these projects -to be sustainable. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
-No community or business... | 0:21:32 | 0:21:33 | |
-..will invest in these technologies -if they run at a loss. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
-We asked for an interview... | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
-..with the Secretary of State -for Energy and Climate Change... | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
-..in Westminster to respond to -criticism regarding subsidy cuts. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
-But Amber Rudd wasn't available. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
-In a statement... | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
-..a spokesperson said that -the government is fighting hard... | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
-..to keep energy bills low -for businesses and families. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
-The statement says that -the Conservative Government... | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
-..supports -the low-carbon energy industry... | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
-..but that the industry had to be -driven by competition not subsidies. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
-Despite the cuts to subsidies, -in Monmouthshire... | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
-..the plan to build a solar farm -is afoot. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
-Here, 38,000 panels will generate -electricity for 25 years. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
-I support renewable energy, -of course I do. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
-I want to see -farmers and developers... | 0:22:30 | 0:22:35 | |
-..creating a small solar park. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
-Not a huge solar park like here. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
-In Pembrokeshire, the future -of the Trecoed solar farm... | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
-..is in the hands of Energi, -Western Power and the National Grid. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
-William Miles isn't sure... | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
-..if there's a future for the plan -on his fields. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
-It's frustrating. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
-It's no more frustrating... | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
-..than for every farmer -in this situation. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
-It's worse for local farmers... | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
-..with the price of milk -and all produce going down. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
-Everyone's looking -for something to do outside farming. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
-In Gwynedd -is another disappointed farmer. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
-Navitas says they won't appeal -against the council's decision... | 0:23:17 | 0:23:23 | |
-..to turn down the solar farm -near Penygroes. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
-So the sun has set -on the plans on Dafydd Jones' land. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
-It was a very good project -to save the environment. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
-Doing our bit. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
-If everyone did their bit, -the world would be a better place. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
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