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-Terrorist scum! | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
-Terrorist scum! - -Off our streets. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:04 | |
-Last weekend, right-wing groups -took to the streets of London... | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
-..to protest against terrorism. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
-You as a left-wing journalist -can bury your head in the sand. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
-We don't bury our heads in the sand. -This is Islamic terrorism. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
-I was there too with -a young Muslim from North Wales. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
-I think allowing them -to do what they're doing... | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
-..shows everyone in this country how -bigoted and small-minded they are. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:34 | |
-Tonight, we're on a journey -with Samir Baxter... | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
-..to find out what effect -the attacks on Westminster... | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
-..have had on his community. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
-It's nothing to do with religion. -It's maniacs doing bad things. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
-We're in Birmingham -where terrorist Khalid Masood lived. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
-And in Cardiff -where a small gang of Muslims... | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
-..have been attracted -towards Islamic extremism. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
-This is not Islamic, not at all. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
-The word Islam means peace -and that's what we want. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
-Tonight on Y Byd ar Bedwar... | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
-..what has been the effect -of the London terror attack? | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
-Westminster Bridge, London. -Exactly a week after the attack. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:31 | |
-Thousands have gathered -to pay their respects... | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
-..to those killed and injured. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
-Among those present were groups from -Muslim communities across Britain. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:44 | |
-Also present, -Monmouth MP David Davies. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
-Hello, sir. Hello, nice to meet you. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
-I've come from Redditch. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
-I was one of the MPs -who was caught up in it last week. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
-I was actually very close -to what happened. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
-At 2.40pm, a 52-year-old man -name Khalid Masood... | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
-..drove along the pavement -across Westminster Bridge. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
-He used his vehicle as a weapon -to knock over pedestrians... | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
-..injuring 50 people -and killing three. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
-After driving the car into railings -outside Westminster Palace... | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
-..he rushed towards -the government grounds... | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
-..and attacked PC Keith Palmer -before being shot dead. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
-Back down, back, back, back, back. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
-David Davies was on his way -to the chambers with another MP... | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
-..when Masood attacked. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
-In the middle of the mayhem, -he filmed this footage on his phone. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
-I heard a gunshot ring out -and I said, I'm sure I said... | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
-.."That was a gunshot, get down." | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
-From my understanding, -the two of us believed someone... | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
-..was trying to shoot towards us, -maybe from the outside. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:19 | |
-As armed officers -shot the attacker... | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
-..the MP ran back to his office -through an underground tunnel. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
-I wasn't panicking but my adrenaline -had gone through the roof. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
-I was on the ground -thinking someone had been shot. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
-IS has claimed responsibility -for Khalid Masood's attack. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
-Muslim communities across Britain -have condemned his actions... | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
-..but the Welsh MP feels that more -need to be done to tackle extremism. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:57 | |
-Do you think the Muslim community -has done enough... | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
-..to share their experiences -and explain their views? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
-I don't think so at all. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
-I want to make it clear -that the majority of Muslims... | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
-..are fiercely opposed to terrorism. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
-Why do you think they aren't -doing more to transfer that message? | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
-Well, look... | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
-..it's difficult to find the correct -language to discuss this problem... | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
-..without everyone accusing you -of being racist. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
-That night, almost 300 miles away -in Bangor Cathedral... | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
-..a vigil is held -to mark a week since the attacks. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
-Representatives from different -religions head to the service. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
-Among them is Samir Baxter, a local -man who has converted to Islam. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
-I think it's so important -during these times... | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
-..for everyone to come together... | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
-..and let people know that -the actions of this man in London... | 0:05:01 | 0:05:08 | |
-..weren't the actions -of a true Muslim. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
-People like that -are in an extreme minority. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
-Samir has experienced Islamophobia -as a Muslim in Bangor. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
-When he heard about the attack -in London... | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
-..he was concerned -about an increase in Islamophobia... | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
-..as there was after the attacks -in Paris and Berlin. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
-I'm just anticipating a backlash. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
-Some people think that just because -a Muslim has done that... | 0:05:42 | 0:05:48 | |
-..they think we're all bad. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
-The 22-year-old Muslim also condemns -Khalid Masood's attack. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:02 | |
-He believes -a better understanding is needed... | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
-..about what drives some Muslims -to extremism. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
-I think people have -a lack of education... | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
-..in the subject of Islam -and the subject of politics... | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
-..and why people -actually do things like that. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
-I read the Quran every day -in English and Arabic. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
-There's nothing in the Quran telling -you to go out and kill people. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
-There's nothing in it. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:33 | |
-Some people, -especially the far-right... | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
-..like to pick out -words and verses from the Quran... | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
-..and say, "Look, -the Quran tells you to do this." | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
-If you read what comes before -and after those words and verses... | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
-..you can see the context -and it only preaches self-defence. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
-According to the most recent Census, -almost 46,000 Muslims live in Wales. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:04 | |
-The Muslim community -has deep roots in Cardiff... | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
-..and half of Welsh Muslims -live in the capital. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
-On Friday, we visited -the Shah Jalal mosque in Cathays... | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
-..to ask worshippers -about the recent attack. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
-We highly condemn these attacks. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
-This is not Islamic, not at all. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
-Islam, the word Islam, means peace. -That's what we want. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
-No hate, we just want peace. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
-We want to unite all the -communities, that's our intention. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
-That's our feeling in Cardiff. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
-It doesn't represent -Islam or Muslim. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
-We condemn and we will fight with -the British soldiers against ISIS. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
-That's what the view of Muslims are. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
-I was brought up in this country. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
-I love this country -more than anything else. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
-Some present believed -that feelings towards Muslims... | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
-..had changed -for the worse recently. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
-You see it generally on the streets, -maybe. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
-It won't be open as much but -getting a little bit more open... | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
-..with comments -and just stares sometimes. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:29 | |
-It's getting worse. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
-Muslims in Wales have been linked -to terrorist activities... | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
-..and some have voiced their support -to so-called IS. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
-Three years ago Nasser Muthana -and Reyaad Khan from Cardiff... | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
-..appeared in an IS propaganda video -after travelling to Syria. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
-Nasser's young brother, Aseel, -travelled over to join them. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
-Reyaad Khan -has since been killed in Syria... | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
-..but there has been no news -about the Muthana brothers. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
-Last week, we visited Nasser -and Aseel's father... | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
-..to find out what he had to say... | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
-..about the influence -of extremism on Muslims. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
-He said he was recovering -from heart surgery... | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
-..and not in a position -to conduct an interview. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
-In this video, Aseel Muthana and -Kristen Brekke, both from Cardiff... | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
-..pretend they are in Syria. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
-This is the fake Jihadi life? | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
-Last year -Kristen Brekke was imprisoned... | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
-..for four and a half years for -helping Aseel to travel to Syria... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
-..even though he told the jury -he was "totally against Jihad". | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
-We also called to see Kristen -Brekke's father in Grangetown. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
-He has always protested -his son's innocence... | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
-..and the only thing -he had to say... | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
-..was that his son -wasn't an extremist. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
-Gareth Hicks -mentors young people... | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
-..who are suspected -of having extremist views. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
-He says that extremists use -the Internet to attract followers... | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
-..in the form -of IS propaganda videos. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
-The problem nowadays is -people are on their smartphones... | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
-..they can go anywhere... | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
-..and there's no way of seeing -what they're doing. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
-It's difficult to track -what information they're receiving. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:25 | |
-I think that's the way -they are led down that path... | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
-..by the way they use -their smartphones and the Internet. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
-This youth worker -has turned to Islam himself. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
-He claims that extremist right-wing -groups are targeting young people. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:45 | |
-We work with the communities -to ensure we all come together. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
-The work is difficult but it's good -because everyone works together... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:59 | |
-..and we've had people -who headed down the right-wing path. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
-These days they're drinking tea -with the Muslim community. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
-That's good. Difficult but good. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
-Dr Geraint Whittaker -from Swansea University... | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
-..works with the city's -Ethnic Youth Support Team. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
-He's completed a PhD -on Muslim identity in Wales. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
-Muslims are exactly the same as us. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-There's momentum in their lives -where they feel they belong or not. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
-If they feel they don't belong... | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
-..if they experience racism -or Islamophobia... | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
-..they don't feel -they're part of that community. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
-He shares his concerns -that social media... | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
-..is helping -right-wing extremist groups... | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
-..to spread anti-Islamic propaganda. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
-Through social media - -Facebook, Twitter, Instagram... | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
-..people like Britain First -can make up their own stories... | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
-..share their information -and manage it in such a way... | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
-..to create a picture -of what they want to see... | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
-..which is -"Muslims are all like this"... | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
-.."They all want to kill people, -they're all terrorists." | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
-Terrorist scum. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:26 | |
-Terrorist scum. - -Off our streets. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:27 | |
-In Part 2, clashes -between right-wing groups... | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
-..and anti-Fascist groups on -the streets of London last weekend. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:37 | |
-Fascist scum. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
-We're with Samir Baxter... | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
-..as the police step in -to arrest protestors. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
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-Five years ago, this man -from Bangor converted to Islam.... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
-..and changed his name to Samir. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
-He's now studying -to become an Imam. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
-Friday prayers is one of the -most important events of the week. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
-He washes before heading -to the prayer hall... | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-..to ensure he's pure -before his god. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-He's not in Bangor today. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
-He's in one of Europe's -largest mosques... | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
-..Central Mosque, Birmingham... | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
-..as one of 3,000 men -who will meet there to pray. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
-I come here quite regularly, -to chill with my friends... | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
-..visit the city, -attend different lectures... | 0:13:54 | 0:14:00 | |
-..and learn more about my faith. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
-Samir has visited Saudi Arabia -to learn about his faith... | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
-..and he believes -the present government... | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
-..can learn lessons from them -to tackle terrorism. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
-When I visited Saudi Arabia, -they had harsher punishments... | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
-..for people involved -in terrorist acts... | 0:14:21 | 0:14:28 | |
-..and people who kill others... | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
-..and people -who rape and assault other people. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
-They give them the death penalty -or a very harsh punishment. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
-As a result of that, nothing further -happens. It's such a good deterrent. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:47 | |
-Over a million people live in -Birmingham. Almost 25% are Muslims. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
-Until a fortnight ago... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
-..the Westminster murderer -lived among them. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
-Adrian Elms was born in Kent -on Christmas Day 1964. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:06 | |
-At the age of 16, he left school... | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
-..and fell into a world -of crime and drugs. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
-Later, he was sent to prison for -violent offences relating to knives. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
-Firstly in 2001 and then in 2003. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
-Following that, -he converted to Islam... | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
-..and changed his name -to Khalid Masood. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
-He lived here, on the Quayside -estate, until last December. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
-I spoke to many of his neighbours... | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
-..who described him -as quiet and normal. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
-He's wasn't the first -from Birmingham... | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
-..to surprise his neighbours -and follow a path to terrorism. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
-According to a recent survey -by the Henry Jackson Society... | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
-..39 people from Birmingham have -been linked to terrorist activity... | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
-..between 1998 and 2015. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:58 | |
-Members of the mosque admitted -there was a problem in the city. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
-Birmingham now needs -to be cleaned up. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
-There's a lot of people -out there who are hiding away... | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
-..and doing these silly things. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
-There's black sheep -in every community... | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
-..and this man -was hiding under a rock. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
-The inquiry announced -a month ago also notes... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
-..that 75% of offenders come -from England's most deprived areas. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:30 | |
-I think personally -this is due to social status... | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
-..economics, coming from -deprived areas, lack of education... | 0:16:35 | 0:16:41 | |
-..and not many prospects or goals -to look forward to in life. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
-They go down the wrong path. -That's all it is. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
-Another visitor to the mosque -on Friday... | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
-..was the West Midlands Police -and Crime Commissioner. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
-A significant amount of individuals -involved in attacks... | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
-..have come from this area, -from Birmingham. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
-Why is that? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
-The attacker last week -came from Kent. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
-He spent a short time in Birmingham -but he came from elsewhere. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
-This is big and busy city. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
-Are you saying -there isn't a problem here? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
-There is, of course... | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
-The police are aware that there -are problems and we know that. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
-We are alive to the problem. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
-We have the resources in place -to deal with the problem. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
-We will protect people -of all faiths. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
-Between 1998 and 2015, -250 people were sentenced... | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
-..for Islamic terrorist offences -in Britain. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
-Samir Baxter feels a need -to be vigilant about extremism... | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
-..from all directions. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
-Is that too simple an answer? -Are you being naive? | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
-There is a problem -with radicalisation... | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
-..but we see extreme views -from both sides. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
-A year ago, I think we had... | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
-..the Jo Cox murderer in England. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
-He had right-wing extreme views. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
-I think we have to place the focus -on extreme views... | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
-..and not just Muslim extreme views. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
-The following day, -we were with Samir in London. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
-An anti-terrorism protest -had been organised... | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
-..by Britain First -and the English Defence League... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
-..in light -of the Westminster attack. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
-According to social media, thousands -were expected on this march. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
-So far, -outside Charing Cross Station... | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
-..there are about 100 of them. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
-There are police here -and along the march route. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
-Fascist scum. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
-Nazi scum. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
-A crowd had gathered -to oppose the protest. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
-Samir said he'd witnessed -Britain First's tactics before. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
-Racist scum. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
-They're just stupid. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
-Last year I visited -an East London mosque... | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
-..and they randomly turned up -with a cross... | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
-..and started abusing -the Muslims in the mosque. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
-I think they were trying -to get a reaction for YouTube. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
-This is Paul Golding, -leader of Britain First. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
-He was imprisoned last December -after driving four supporters... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
-..to the Al Manar mosque -in Cardiff... | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
-..with the intention -of taking over the mosque. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
-He agreed to talk to me and insisted -that Masood had been radicalised... | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
-..by Islamic extremists -whilst in prison. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
-The prisons are run by Muslim gangs. -I've just come out of one of them. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
-The prisons are run by Muslim gangs -who radicalise people. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
-He came out of prison, was a -radicalised Muslim, an extremist... | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
-There's no proof of that. -It's not been proven. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
-You as a left-wing journalist -can bury your head in the sand. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
-We don't bury our heads in the sand. -This is Islamic terrorism. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
-Do we have a far right-wing problem? | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
-No. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
-Isn't that what this is about? | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
-We're not far right, we're not -far right. We're not racist. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
-We are British, patriotic, -we love our country. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
-We're sick to death of left-wing -journalists ruining this country. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
-As an impartial journalist, -I spoke to many of his supporters... | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
-..including one -originally from Aberdare. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
-I very much resent the way that the -Muslims seem to be taking over... | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
-..and dictating things. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
-They are segregating themselves -from the British way of life. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
-Isn't that what you're doing? -Segregating yourself? | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
-Just generally, -I want my country to be British... | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
-..and I want people -who come into this country... | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
-..to abide by our laws -and way of life. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
-There is a history of clashes... | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-..between right-wing groups -and anti-Fascist protestors. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
-The police were there -in their hundreds waiting for them. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
-According to the -Metropolitan Police... | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
-..14 people were arrested -for various public order offences. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
-According to Samir, the protestors -do themselves more harm than good. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
-To be honest, allowing them -to do what they're doing... | 0:21:55 | 0:22:01 | |
-..shows everyone in this country how -bigoted and small-minded they are. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:07 | |
-It goes against their favour. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
-Following the protest, -Samir wanted to pay tribute... | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
-..to the four who lost their lives -and the 50 who were injured... | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
-..due to Khalid Masood's actions. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
-Actually visiting the place -where the attack happened... | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
-..where people died... | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
-..it's sad and emotional to be here. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
-Khalid Masood -called himself a Muslim. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
-For many, there is no link between -these murders and Islamic values. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:51 | |
-You're all brothers -in the Islamic faith. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
-How does it feel when one of -your brothers commits these crimes? | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
-He wasn't my brother. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
-If you're a true Muslim, -you don't do things like that. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
-God says in the Quran... | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
-..that if you kill just one person, -you have killed the world. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:15 | |
-Islam is clear -with things like that. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
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