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-There are four weeks to go -until this year's Assembly election. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
-Just four weeks for you to decide -who will get your vote. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
-But as you ponder, -we have a special series... | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
-..to help you follow -the race to the Senedd. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
-We cut through the slogans -and the spin... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
-..as five familiar faces lead us -behind the scenes of the campaign... | 0:00:29 | 0:00:34 | |
-..and question the candidates. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
-First tonight, -a journalist and broadcaster... | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
-..who fronted Newyddion Saith -and S4C's 1980s election coverage. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
-She has presented her popular -radio series for almost 30 years. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
-She's a proud Cardi... | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
-..and a campaigner for the rights -of people with dementia. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
-Hello, Catrin. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:00 | |
-Hello, Catrin. - -Beti George, how are you? | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
-Very well, thank you. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
-I've got a special envelope for you. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
-Open it to find out -which party you've got. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
-The Liberal Democrats. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
-How do you feel about that? | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
-It's the wooden spoon, I'm afraid. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
-The Liberal Democrats -have faced big challenges of late. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
-They face another one -in this year's Assembly election... | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
-..with a big question mark -over their ability... | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
-..to keep their five current seats. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
-Journalist Dylan Iorwerth looks at -their trials and electoral pledges. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
-There's an old joke about the -Liberals in the House of Commons. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
-They could all have arrived -together in one taxi. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
-After this Assembly election... | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
-..a bike could be enough -for the Liberal Democrats. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
-Alright, it may be a tandem... | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
-..but one opinion poll analysis -suggests they won't need anything. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:21 | |
-Jaguar cars were the problem. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:25 | |
-After the 2010 general election... | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
-..a handful of Liberal Democrats -got smart ministerial cars... | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
-..before they had learnt to drive. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
-The Conservatives played with the -brakes at the following election... | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
-..and the cars all vanished... | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
-..like Cinderella's grand carriage -at midnight. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
-And here's poor Kirstyrella. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
-The fairy godmother has gone, -leaving her with four big sisters. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
-Some say she'd make -a good little princess... | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
-..but she has no hope if she's lost -in the depths of the cellar. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
-There's even something sad about -the party's election pledges. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
-Many mention things getting smaller. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
-Smaller classes, -lower business rates... | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
-..as if they want everything -cut down to their size. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
-All the pledges of more nursing jobs -makes it hard not to suspect... | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
-..that Kirstyrella may be seeking -a new career after May's operation. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
-To be fair, they can boast -to being the only party... | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
-..to vote against -a pay rise for AMs. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
-But that's easily done... | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
-..when it won't be relevant -to most of them. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
-Size does matter. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
-However good or sincere it is... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
-..a small party finds it -harder to get attention... | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
-..which could make it smaller still. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
-It's like riding a bike on the road. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
-Everyone storms past, squashing you -to the side and splashing you... | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
-..and drowning your protests -by sounding their horns. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
-Oh, for those halcyon days -when bikes ruled the roads. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
-No cars, no motorways. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
-In fact, the very time -when the Liberals ruled everything. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
-The days of that famous rider... | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
-..Lloyd George. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:54 | |
-Oh, yes. | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
-Today's Liberal Democrats -can claim one major victory. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
-A successful campaign, -it is said... | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
-..to save Lloyd George's museum -in Llanystumdwy. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
-An excellent idea, -because, unless things change... | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
-..that's where many of them -will be after May. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
-Dylan Iorwerth's unique view -of matters there. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
-But how is the party doing -at the grass roots? | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
-Over the past weeks, -broadcaster Beti George... | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
-..has been out with the Lib Dems -to see what they have to offer... | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
-..in the fields -that are important to her. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
-I've been interested in politics -since I was a young child. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
-At that time, -the Liberals ran Ceredigion. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
-You could have put a sheep up -as Liberal candidate... | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
-..and it would have been elected. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
-I then worked in news -and current affairs. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
-Now, I'm looking forward -to going back to the Liberals. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
-One of the things -I want to go after is health... | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
-..specifically, dementia care. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
-David, my partner, has Alzheimer's. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
-45,000 people in Wales -live with dementia. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
-It costs Wales 1.4 billion a year. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:38 | |
-But it's the people with dementia -and their families... | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
-..who pay two-thirds of that cost. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
-Is that fair? | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
-Another thing that worries me... | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
-..is the future -of our language and culture... | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
-..and the future of our nation. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
-The demography of Wales -has changed immensely. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
-They say that 23% -of those who now live in Wales... | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
-..were born in England. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
-I wonder what the Lib Dems -have to say about that. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
-I've come home to Ceredigion... | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
-..because the Liberal Democrats' -big day is taking place here. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
-They're launching their campaign -in Llanrhystud. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
-Ladies and gentlemen... | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
-..the leader of the Welsh -Liberal Democrats, Kirsty Williams. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
-We're the only party -in this campaign. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
-An Assembly government -that works for all of us. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
-We're launching a campaign -to create that Assembly. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
-To create a Wales -with more nurses... | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
-..smaller class sizes -and an opportunity economy. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
-But that's not enough. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
-Wales needs more than that. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
-Not a different institution, -just a different government. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
-Well, their leader -is a very effective speaker. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
-Thank you very much -for this morning. Diolch yn fawr. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
-Only a couple of words of Welsh -were heard from that stage. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
-It's unbelievable. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:27 | |
-I'm on my way to North Wales... | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
-..to meet one of the pillars of -the Welsh Lib Dems, Aled Roberts. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
-I want to ask him whether his party -truly cares about the language. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:46 | |
-And how afraid is he of UKIP, -the purple party? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
-Well, Aled. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
-What weather! | 0:08:59 | 0:09:00 | |
-What weather! - -Yes, we're ready for a cuppa by now. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
-We've got one street to finish. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
-I'll join you to see -what reaction you get. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
-We're just asking for support... | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
-..even if you don't -usually support us. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
-If you'd consider it this time, -to help keep the seat. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
-Do you vote usually? | 0:09:19 | 0:09:20 | |
-Yes. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
-I won't say who for! | 0:09:23 | 0:09:24 | |
-Do the Lib Dems worry at all... | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
-..about the future of the language -and the nation? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
-Yes, of course they do. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
-I think we were behind the -Cymru Fydd movement at the outset. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
-What we need to show -is that we are a Welsh party. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
-Clearly, we don't believe -in independence. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
-That's... | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
-Don't you? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:51 | |
-Don't you? - -No, we believe in federalism. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
-Where Wales has control... | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
-..over matters -that are important for Wales. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
-But we maybe believe that matters -such as defence and the like... | 0:10:01 | 0:10:07 | |
-..are easier when we sit -within the British system. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
-The threat to you is UKIP. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:14 | |
-The threat to you is UKIP. - -Yes. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:15 | |
-There is definitely -a percentage of UKIP voters... | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
-..who have come here... | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
-..and are maybe unhappy with the way -the world, even, is changing. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
-They want to go back -twenty or thirty years. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
-There is also dissatisfaction -in north-eastern areas of Wales... | 0:10:33 | 0:10:38 | |
-..among traditional Labour voters. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-Ten years ago, perhaps, -we would have benefitted locally... | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
-..from that dissatisfaction. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
-But since we went into coalition -in Westminster... | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
-..we are now viewed maybe -as part of the Establishment. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
-Aled Roberts is working hard, -I must say that. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
-He's also very sincere -and wants to make a difference. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
-But his party's message -is neither simple nor clear. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
-To be honest, they could learn a lot -from their arch-enemy, Farage. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
-After the break, Beti George reveals -her conclusions about the Lib Dems. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
-And I interview their leader -in Wales, Kirsty Williams. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
-Is calling yourself the ugly party -in politics a progressive message? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
-I don't believe -the picture you're painting. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
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-Subtitles | 0:11:39 | 0:11:39 | |
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-Welcome back. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
-Tonight, on Y Ras i'r Senedd... | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
-..the Lib Dems -are under the microscope. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
-I'll be speaking -to their leader shortly... | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
-..but first, let's return -to Beti George. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
-She's been to see how much -grass-roots support they have. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
-The Lib Dems are launching a portion -of their health policy today. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:09 | |
-The most important part for them, -nurses. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
-Their measure on higher staffing -levels for nurses in Wales... | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
-..became law today. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
-I'm on my way to Heath Hospital -in Cardiff... | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
-..to hear what they have to say. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
-This is the only private measure -introduced to the Assembly. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
-Where will these extra nurses -come from? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
-Apparently, we're heading -into a ward here. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
-A ward where people are ill. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
-They're not chronic, they're acute. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
-Hello, Cadan. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:52 | |
-Is this the kind of ward where -you're calling for more nurses? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
-We've already passed a law... | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
-..ensuring we have more nurses -on wards like this one. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
-We're trying to extend it -to mental health wards... | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
-..maternity wards -and community nurses. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
-Where will you get these nurses? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
-A lot of nurses -have already left the profession... | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
-..because they're under -so much pressure. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
-Around the world, when laws like -this one have been enacted... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
-..nurses have started coming back -to nursing. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
-They see that working conditions -are better... | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
-..and that they'll enjoy it more. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
-Recently, the Welsh Government -has guaranteed more places... | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
-..to train nurses. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
-Through a combination of those two, -we're hoping there will be enough. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
-At the moment, you're recruiting -from foreign countries. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
-Yes, that is a problem. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:50 | |
-The nurses from abroad -are very good nurses. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
-They do good work -and we're glad to have them. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
-Kirsty, this is a very, very -important bit of legislation. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
-You're very proud of this. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:07 | |
-You're very proud of this. - -Yes, I am. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
-The next thing I want you to do is -to do the same with social carers. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
-I'm a carer. We need a revolution -in dementia care. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
-Absolutely. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:19 | |
-We already know that Wales has -an above average older population. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
-We need to make sure that we're -increasing our diagnosis rate. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
-Once we have a diagnosis, there -must be services in place for them. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
-Are you confident -that you'll be back in the Senedd... | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
-..to carry out all these reforms as -far as dementia care is concerned? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
-I'm determined to get back... | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
-..and to bring a group of -Welsh Liberal Democrats with us. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
-If we weren't there, -this law would not have happened. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
-That's the value of voting -for the Welsh Liberal Democrats. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
-We can do more, -should we have the opportunity. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
-Kirsty was very happy. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
-Who can blame her? -It's an important law. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
-To be honest, -it doesn't help people like me. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
-We don't need nursing care. -We need care in the community. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
-Kirsty did agree that there needs -to be a revolution in that area. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:23 | |
-But will she be here next time -to see that revolution happen? | 0:15:23 | 0:15:29 | |
-The party for nice people, -that's the Lib Dem image. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
-But I think you need a little bit -of the devil about you... | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
-..to be an effective politician. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
-They like to say that they're -"Punching above our weight". | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
-But if the latest -opinion poll holds true... | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
-..they're going to be wiped out -and won't have any weight to start. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
-I've come to West Wales -to meet one of the candidates... | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
-..and to ask her what's the point -of voting for the Liberal Democrats. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
-Elizabeth, what's the point of -voting for the Liberal Democrats... | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
-..when there will only be -one or two of you? | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
-As Kirsty Williams said -and is still saying... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
-..it's important to vote -for the Lib Dems. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
-We're still important -to politics in Wales. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-I also feel that there's a place -for Liberals in the Assembly. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
-It's clear that Welsh -isn't very important to you. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
-It's important to me. -It's important to our councillors. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
-We didn't hear a word of Welsh -at the launch... | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
-..apart from "croeso" and "diolch". | 0:16:49 | 0:16:50 | |
-..apart from "croeso" and "diolch". - -I understand that. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
-When I speak to the party -at meetings, I do speak Welsh. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:58 | |
-I agree with you -that Welsh is important... | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
-..particularly in rural Wales. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
-Are you going to win? | 0:17:05 | 0:17:06 | |
-They call it candidate-itis. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
-When the candidate goes out -to pound the pavement... | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
-..everyone is nice to us and we -think we'll do it, we'll win. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
-The opposite is true for me. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
-Beti, I don't know, -but I'm working towards it. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
-I wanted to raise two subjects -in particular with the Lib Dems... | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
-..the Welsh language and dementia. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
-It's obvious Welsh -isn't important to them. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
-We heard no Welsh -in their campaign launch. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
-In terms of dementia, it's not -mentioned in their health manifesto. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
-I would expect it -to be one of their priorities. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
-I have to say, they work very hard. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-But in reality, are we seeing... | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
-..the old Welsh tradition of -Liberalism dying before our eyes? | 0:18:02 | 0:18:08 | |
-Lib Dems - 2 seats, -UKIP - 7 seats... | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
-..according to the -latest opinion poll. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
-Lloyd George -is turning in his grave. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
-What's the message -from the Lib Dems' leader... | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
-..as this election approaches? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
-What hope does she have to stop -her party's consistent slump? | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
-It's getting smaller and smaller -with each election. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
-Kirsty Williams has led -the Welsh Lib Dems since 2008. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
-Back then, -the aim was to win a majority... | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
-..and form a government -in Cardiff Bay. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
-To do that now would be a miracle. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-The party's supporters -are hoping to keep their five seats. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
-And no mention of winning more. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
-Kirsty Williams, -can you tell me why you think... | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
-..your prospects for this election -are so abysmal right now? | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
-If you look back at what's happened -over the last five years... | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
-..before the last -Assembly elections... | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
-..journalists like yourself -predicted doom and gloom... | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
-..and said that no Liberal Democrats -would be returned to the Assembly. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
-We returned a strong group. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
-We've been punching above our weight -for the last five years. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
-The polls aren't -where I'd like them to be. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
-Activists across Wales... | 0:19:27 | 0:19:28 | |
-..will be making a positive case -for why we need Liberal Democrats... | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-..at the National Assembly -and what we'll do should we be back. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
-You have five seats to lose. There's -a question mark over your seat. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
-Are you starting to panic? | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
-Are you starting to panic? - -No. Absolutely never panic. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:43 | |
-We're making the case -for why Welsh Liberal Democrats... | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
-..should be returned to the Assembly -and what we'll do when we get there. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
-Cutting class sizes... | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
-..ensuring there's the right number -of nurses on our hospital wards. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
-Making sure well-paid jobs allow -people to reach their potential. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
-That's what people will get if they -vote Welsh Liberal Democrats. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
-You used to be the party of values. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
-What are you now after selling those -values to the Tories in Westminster? | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
-Let's be clear. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:13 | |
-As we've seen with the potential -cuts to the disabled... | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
-..my colleagues in Westminster... | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
-..held back the Tories -from the worst excesses. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
-Now we see the Tory government -doing what they would have done... | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
-..five years ago -if it wasn't for my colleagues. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
-If I'd had my way, the coalition -would have been different. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
-Would there have been a coalition? | 0:20:33 | 0:20:33 | |
-Would there have been a coalition? - -We've paid a very heavy price. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
-Would there have been a coalition -if you were in charge? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
-You might be in that position -in the Assembly. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
-We'll have to wait and see. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:44 | |
-Would you have made -the same decision? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
-What people want to know... | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
-..is what the Welsh Liberal -Democrats are going to do... | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
-..should they have an opportunity -in this election. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
-I've demonstrated that you don't -need to be in a coalition... | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
-..to get things done -for the people of Wales. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
-We've passed a law and -we are the first part of Europe... | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
-..to have a minimum -safe staffing level. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
-We've had more money -into our schools. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
-More money spent on housing. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:11 | |
-All outside a coalition. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:13 | |
-Wouldn't it be better -for your party to regroup... | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
-..think about your core values... | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
-..as opposed to considering selling -yourselves again to another party? | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
-I'm not obsessed -with the idea of a coalition. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
-It's the media who are. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
-People are concerned -that Welsh teachers... | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
-..are having to teach in classes -of over 30 children. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
-We're committed to changing that -and cutting those class sizes. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
-If you're concerned that Welsh -nurses are looking after... | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
-..more patients than their -counterparts across the border... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
-..we want to change that. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
-A phrase I've heard you use often - -you've used it today... | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
-..is that the Liberal Democrats -are punching above their weight. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
-It's a term used for an unattractive -partner in a relationship. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
-Do you realise how that sounds -to the electorate? | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
-It's the smallest group -in the Assembly... | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
-..delivering the most -for the people of Wales. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
-Have you tested it on the streets? | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
-I've asked around. -That's the response I get. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
-With a small group... | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
-..we've been able to achieve -more than the official opposition... | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
-..or a larger Plaid Cymru group. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
-There are two -private members' bills... | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
-..that have succeeded -over the last five years. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
-Both put forward -by Welsh Liberal Democrats. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
-You asked the question. I deserve -the opportunity to answer. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
-The only private members -bills passed... | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
-..were put forward -by Liberal Democrats. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
-We delivered additional money -to our schools, a pupil premium. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
-The gap between the attainment -levels of our poorest children... | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
-..and our richest children -is changing. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
-We're not contesting that. What -I'm asking you is about messaging. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
-You criticised the message -of the general election... | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
-..head for Labour, -heart for the Tories. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
-Are you having -the same problem again? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
-Is this another faux pas? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
-Calling yourself the ugly party -isn't a progressive message. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
-I don't believe -the picture you're painting. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
-Despite being the smallest group... | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
-..we've delivered more -over the last five years... | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
-..than the official opposition -and the larger party. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
-If we can do that with five... | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
-..imagine what we could do -with more Assembly Members. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
-That's it for tonight. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:27 | |
-Next week, Plaid Cymru -go under the microscope. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
-I'll be speaking to their leader, -Leanne Wood. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
-Join us next week at 9.30pm. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
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