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Good afternoon. Welcome to the programme. As usual, we have

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coverage of questions for the First Minister. We kick off the afternoon

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with the publishing of the draft budget. The Finance Minister will

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make a statement setting out the spending plans for the next year.

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The opposition will set out there bargaining positions as the

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minority Labour but government looks for support from one of them

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to get the budget passed later in the year. That will be all coming

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up here on the programme. Firstly, you can get in touch with us if you

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want to comment on are anything on the programme. -- comment on

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Let's have a look at the questions now to the First Minister.

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The National Assembly for Wales is now in session, questions for the

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First Minister, question number born, George Watson. What is the

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Welsh government doing to make the community safer? We and our working

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as with the police, the foreign trustee services and others to make

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sure that people feel safe on the streets. -- the Fire and rescue

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services. It is nearly one years since we decided to switch off

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street lights in residential street areas to save money. There were

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several concerns about the implication for personal safety.

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Has the Government had any discussion with the Local

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Government Association or the police on the impact of that

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decision? It is for each locality to decide whether or not to switch

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on or off the street lighting. They have to take into account section

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17 of the crime and disorder Act which makes sure that they take

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this into account when did making the decision process. Safe

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communities surely include safe transport to school. He will surely

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be aware of the incident in Carmarthenshire a better place in

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an underpass on the way to school identified by a local authority as

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safe. -- income are to ensure that took place. What about people that

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walk or cycle to work? It is important to make sure that the

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route is saved. Nothing can be 100 % say for the time. The incident

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that you refer to is very distressing. I would assume that

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they will examine that route to make sure that it remains, or that

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it is a safe route to school in the future. The police severity have

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expressed concern once more about the future of the helicopter

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service. -- the Police Authority. There was a fatal accident to my

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constituency where a young boy of 14 died recently. The police

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helicopter had to attend the incident because the air ambulance

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had been called to another accident. The support the police force that

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charities that the helicopter service is completely crucial

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regarding the landscape that they cover? In looking at this, the

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police do need helicopters wherever they may be working. More

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importantly, in certain areas, so much of this is rural, and in order

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to travel from one place to another in a speedy manner, you need a

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helicopter to achieve this. I would be very supportive of making sure

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there is adequate access by the police force to helicopters and the

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future. Prior to the 2010 general election, Nick Clegg promised 3,000

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extra frontline police officers. David Cameron promised that if any

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Minister came to him if he won the election, he would send away with

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it the end area if they reduced frontline policing. -- sent them

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away with a flea end at their year. Do you think that the situation

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will deteriorate as a result of these cuts? I hear the benches

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opposite saying we cannot afford them. We cannot afford crime, from

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my point of view. As a government we have appointed 300 community

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support officers that we promised we would in this assembly. The

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remainder will be in place by the end of September next year. That is

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community safety in action. Quest into is now a written answer. --

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question two. Before my questions, I would like to put on record, and

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I am sure that I speak for all members here when I say that her

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thoughts go out to the family of April Jones and we hope that she is

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the found safe and well quickly. -- she is found. At a fringe meeting

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at the party conference tonight, Hilary Benn will be joined by the

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leaders of Islington and burns the councils where they plan to attack

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what they are calling the new poll tax. -- Barnsley council's. There

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talking about the transfer of local authorities. This was announced in

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20th June 10. More than two years later, we are still awaiting a

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serious proposition from your government about how we in Wales

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will assist with the 330,000 households across Wales that will

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be affected by this cost. When can we expect a detailed announcement

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of the council tax support scheme? Can I thank her for her comments, I

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am sure all members agree with this in relation to this situation that

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existed with regard to young April Jones. In rep at the council tax

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benefit, it has been devolved. -- in regard to the council tax. This

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is not money that could be made up very easily. Particularly with the

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current financial situation. We are examining what we can do to help

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people affected by best. Unlike the Scottish government, this

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government has confirmed that the local government sector would bear

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the full brunt of these cuts. The party of Wales would argue that

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there is no need to pass this cot onto the most poorest people of the

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community. -- this cut. We could use part of next year's Barnett

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formula consequences that had been confirmed by the Treasury. This

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would mean that in one year's time, if it was fair and sustainable, the

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Wells council tax support scheme could be designed. -- Welsh council

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tax. Will you support the commitment to cancel out these cuts

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for next year. Is she saying that the money we may have next year

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could be brought forward to this financial year to cover

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expenditure? The reality is, Scotland is lavishly funded through

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the Barnett formula and it is a different situation. I take account

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which he says, and this is the opening gambit on the budget

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discussions of the next few weeks. Do any Alexander has confirmed that

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�80.6 million is due to come to Wales next year and we have said

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that we were depicted those funds as an emergency. -- Danny Alexander.

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This will be an example of this intervention to buy some breathing

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space and to protect the incomes of the living standards of the people

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in Wales. You have spoke about offering a fairer society than the

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UK government can offer, but when it comes to action, you words do

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not stack up. Which you reconsider their refusal to protect the people

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of Wales from these savage cuts? She seems to think we can get money

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from next year's budget to get to pay for this year's Budget. She

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does that realise how this works. We do not get money to put in the

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bank in a financial year, it is drawn down over time. We have the

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honesty the people of Wales, we do not put a imaginary stories in

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front of them at that say that money can be found at the top of

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the trees to cover for cuts by the UK government. We will help people

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as best recant, but we have to realise the financial situation is

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tight. The rare, the leader of the Welsh Liberal Democrats. A can I

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associate myself with the comments regarding April Jones and the very

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real trauma that is being felt by the people of the community. The

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link between poor education outcomes and deprivation is all too

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evident, and in Wales, just one in five children that Taran received a

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free school meals go on to get five good GCSEs. -- that are in receipt

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of free school meals. Low skills are often a lead to -- lead to low

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wages. The Te mid at school should affect their ability and not their

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background. -- be achievement at school. At Budget time we spend

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lots of time looking out which lights have gone up and which lines

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have come down. The pupil premium is about art comes, outcomes for

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pupils and their families. -- about outcomes. As a result of the

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investment last year, the school in Wrexham has used the deprivation

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grant to help children with behavioural issues to succeed.

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Other schools are using to teach in small groups and in Flintshire they

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have increased one-on-one tuition for some pupils. This is a budget

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priority that can make a real difference to this country. The Tas

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made a difference and it emerged as a result of negotiations last year.

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-- it has made a difference. said of that pupil premiums that

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this new money is a major boost for the schools and has one clear aim,

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to reduce the link between deprivation and educational

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achievement. I agreed with you then, do you agree now that it is time

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for another major boost for the poorest children? This will form

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part of the other negotiations for the Budget this afternoon. The

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could I also join in the sentiments around April Jones and in

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particular, the search going on. hope that this is fruitful and that

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the distress that has been caused to their parents and relations,

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that it is resolved quickly. I also spare a thought for absent

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colleagues in the chamber and wish them as speedy recovery to good

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health. -- a speedy recovery. First Minister, Welsh Conservatives

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undertook a survey of how teachers in primary schools and it indicated

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that 97 % of head teachers had no confidence in the banding system

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that Europe government is proposing for primary schools in Wales. Do

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you that believe that such a scheme that only has a 3% level of support

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is not worthy of progression? opinion poll that shows something

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in 90s is about to be suspect. I do not know responded to this question

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there and we have no details on this and the Education Minister has

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taken the concerns into account which is why he has delayed issues

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until 2014. But policy is for league tables in his party, and he

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issues league tables on best. have respect, it is your policies

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that are forward at the moment because you are in government, and

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those are not our policy for League tables in Wales and the survey

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sample was of all 1400 primary schools in Wales that had a

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response rate of some 650 responses. That, by any measure, is a

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comprehensive sample of opinion of headteachers across Wales. The

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survey also indicated that are not just headteachers, but governors

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and parents who also did not understand or have confidence in

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those proposals. Does it not show that every turn better Education

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Minister is taking, he lacks support from the profession,

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support from students and the support from their parents? Is it

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not about time that he started actually delivering policy that

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closes the attainment gap that currently exists between us and

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other parts of the United Kingdom? I am astonished at what he is

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saying. He does not believe in league tables, now. That is news to

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me, but it is something he has committed his party with today. I

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wonder if they were asked if the agreed that the education budget

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should be cut by 12 %? That is something that the party opposite

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has wanted to do. If he thinks that some how teachers are getting ready

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to support his party with these policies and in particular, his

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failure, despite getting the opportunity many times to support

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what the Education Minister has done with a prior GCSE English

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language regrading, and I have to take this with a large pinch of

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No answer to the specific question, and going up a cul-de-sac, no

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wonder he is embarrassed by the education table levels in Wales

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under successive Labour governments. He says these listings to people

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and talking to people, and he's shaping policies that will improve

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the lives of people in Wales. His own Education Minister has written

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off by generation, because those results will come too soon. How

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much longer have we got to wait for Welsh Labour to get a grip, start

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closing the attainment gap, and delivering for the children and a -

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- and the people of Wales? I think he must get out in his armchair and

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talk to people. At the end of the day, let's examine the situation,

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we have not said we will cut spending by 12%, he has. He has

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made a virtue of it. We have said we will increase spending. We have

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not said it that we will support regional pay for teachers. His

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party in Westminster think it is a good thing, they make a virtue of

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it. If you look at what he has done, he has not said whether he supports

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the idea of justice for those candidates for Wales who sat GCSE

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English language, he will not support them, what hope have the

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people of Wales got to that they will get support from him in the

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future. We move back to the questions on the paper. Will the

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first minister outline the Welsh government's plans to boost tourism

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in Wales? Yes. We have seen a the completion of a landscape

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partnership project in Wales. That has been achieved through the

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Forestry Commission in Wales, we examine how we can use this as a

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focal point it to increase tourism in North Wales, including the

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possibility of one day is becoming Wales''s 4th national park?

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number of initiatives have been co- ordinated. They had been using the

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sustainable development fund to develop tourism activity. That

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range of mountains will be a greater benefit to many people for

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years to come. -- will be of great benefit. I understand that the

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Welsh government has had a working group in place for 20 months

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looking at how to maximise the potential for the Heritage Site.

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There is an agenda in Scotland which has developed at the

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waterways there, and it noting that the railway is going ahead with the

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steam train extension, despite losing funding. What action is the

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Welsh government proposing, and when we learn what the working

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group is proposing? I can say that the Tourism Partnership in North

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Wales, and the local authority is have been working closely on a new

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brand for the three counties of Wrexham, Denbighshire and

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Flintshire. I know they are working on things such as a walking

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campaign for Wales, golf, in terms of clubs like Denby and Port Last.

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I'm sure that the tourism minister is aware that tourism contributes

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1.8 billion to be economy. It is extremely important to the economy.

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The strategy calls for increasing co-ordination, having a diverse

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attractions, what assistance can the government feared to improve

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and enhance this, and to improve the economy? The funds that have

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been spent their had been implemented up to March of this

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year, 34 grants have been offered, they had been received, and they

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have raised standards in terms of accommodation. Will the first

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minister provide an update on the domestic fire safety regulations?

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They will be made by September of next year. I thank you for that

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answer, and will continue the bishop on that issue. I have said

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many times in this chamber, and will repeat this again, Wales is

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leading the way in implementing this ground-breaking legislation

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designed to save lives, property and money, and to create safer

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communities. I have taken that message across the UK and Europe,

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add your leadership has received a huge praise. I think you should

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recognise that. I look forward to being with you at one of the first

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houses to have sprinklers fitted under these regulations. Do you

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agree a me that this encapsulates everything that is good about

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devolution? I thank her for had kind words, but she underestimates

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her contribution. -- I thank her for her kind words. I pay tribute

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to the word that she has done, and I look forward to this measure

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becoming law. I know that no one will have greater pleasure of

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seeing that than the member herself. Go I understand that one of the

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delays was caused by the Welsh government of commissioning a

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report. That report meant that the UK government rejected the similar

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legislation. We accepted this because the organisation have led

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us to understand that a second report would have found real

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efficiency gains and benefits to life saving. You have received the

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report that does not say that, and there are far better ways of saving

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more lives in our homes. How will your regulations reflect that

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report, a -- if at all? Over the last ten years 17 people have died

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in a residential properties, if these regulations have -- had been

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in place I suspect that would not have happened. It is our view that

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fire safety is important, and saving lives is important. That is

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why this measure is being taken board. First Minister, what work is

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the Welsh government undertaking to ensure that training for doctors is

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adequate? We are trying to ensure the sustainability of the medical

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training. In both North and West Wales medical students are moving

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to hospitals as part of their course. Has the government any

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scheme to ensure that position is improved, because at present many

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students are endeavouring to stay in this part of Wales, and those

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hospitals are suffering? We are working with local organisations to

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try and trained doctors in the West and Wales. Vacancies have gone down

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by 3% in Wales, that is better than the rest of the UK. First Minister,

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the GMC had identified problems right across the board in Welsh

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hospitals, in terms of internet access for doctors to research and

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study, how is the Welsh government addressing this simple problem?

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They all have access to the internet via the NHS Network, that

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his eye over the network, so it is subject to security rules. If there

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wry examples of those rules hindering doctors from carrying out

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proper research, certainly we would look to see what could be done.

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wonder how might the Welsh government be able to ensure that

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it is not be Deanery he were driving local health board brother

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-- who are driving local health board policies are? They are saying

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it is difficult to recruit paediatricians, so they cannot have

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special baby-care units, that is what is being said. The deanery is

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actually controlling how we develop health provision here in Wales,

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that cannot be bright. What action will your government aid to ensure

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that we have the health service we need for the people of Wales, and

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we try it to find the right consultants and junior doctors in

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order to sustain the service we need, and we are not to -- and we

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are not dictated to by a training board. They are governed by a safe

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patient care. The danger being put forward by the member is that

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hospital services should not take into account whether they are safe

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or not. The clearly I cannot agree with that. It is not property

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discount the abuse of the Deanery in terms of delivering safe policy.

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That's it for First Minister's Questions this week. I promised you

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could see coverage of the Finance Minister's statement on the

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government's draft budget - it's spending plans for the next year -

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you can watch it online - just go to BBC Wales's Democracy Live page

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at BBC.co.uk/Walespoltics. I'm reliably informed that Jane Hutt

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