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over and Assembly Members are back at their desks. Transport issues

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seem to be taking the lead in First Minister's Questions today. And AMs

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are also expected to ask about health provisions for children and

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the schooling of pupils who are in care. That's what's on the minds of

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AMs but what's on your mind? Whether it's something on the programme or

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anything else politics related, let us know. We're on Twitter - we're

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@walespolitics - or you can send us an email.

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Business in the Chamber has already kicked-off - let's take a look at

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today's questions to the First Minister. The National Assembly for

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Wales to order. Questions to the first Minister. Question one, Mike

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Hedges. Will he make a statement on the new first community clusters.

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There are no approved and the majority are up and running.

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remainder arty King sheet. Delivery plans are making a real impact. Can

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I thank him for that response. I welcome setting up the clusters.

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This is important in areas of deprivation and shows the commitment

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of labour to protect are vulnerable communities. Will he support

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extending the community first activities to use areas who have

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equal problems. Parts of the same community are masked by other parts

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of the community. The plan is to help the most deprived and

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vulnerable people in Wales. The cluster areas are designed to take

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into account specific needs of communities and be flexible with

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boundaries. Therein lies the Pope -- the possibility of trying to extend

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activities. How do you respond to concern that, having rejected the

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concern for voluntary action for greater community owned dimensional

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and away from government dependency, and instead giving

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responsibility for a living different bodies to accept

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responsibility for different clusters, this ensures that

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communities are not involved in the decision-making process. It is a

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community focused programme with the strategic outcomes. It is important

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there is a league deliver the body to provide leadership and that is

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what those bodies will do. Thank you, how will the Welsh government

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ensure equality of services in terms of all the previous areas covered by

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community first within these new clusters Diolch yn fawr a member of

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my staff went to the Neath office to discuss what would happen near and

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discuss whether the edges of clusters with the ignored and not

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given the same levels of support as under the old system. We would not

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want that to happen. It is extremely important the areas get the support

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they require in order to succeed. That does not mean that other

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communities should not be given any consideration by government. It is

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important that communities 1st of April to focus on those communities

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in the greatest need. Can I welcome that he tackles poverty using the

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communities first trust fund which will cover hundreds of projects. Can

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he give any indication as to whether the trust fund will start

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operation? The Minister announced on the 1st of February that the trust

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fund will be replaced by a new small cancer fund. That is being taken

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forward at present. There will be a more detailed timetable. Other first

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Minister outline what plans the government has too reduce speed

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limits in the vicinity of schools? We support the introduction of a

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lower speed limit in the vicinity of schools where appropriate. Most

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schools are on local roads which is their responsibility of the local

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authority. Would you consider giving your support to the pupils of a

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school in my area who recently presented a petition to the Assembly

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calling on the speed limit on the A48 page to be reduced from 50 to

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30. This is the main route to their school and it also services the

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centre of Chepstow. It is notoriously difficult to get across

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this exchange. Would you give your backing to this that the speed limit

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needs to be reduced as soon as possible? I understand the depth of

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feeling. The bridge forms part of the border, so there is joint

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responsibility for the bridge. We are conducting a speed limiter

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view. The report is due by the end of June. Thank you. The first

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minister recently insisted that periods and the community in

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Llanelli police who were concerned about safety on the roads

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surrounding that school, their campaign has been successful. It has

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moved up the county council router to list. Should he not be in favour

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of safety in our schools, why should parents would have to fight for

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safety? It is important that local authorities ensure that they know

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exactly what the position of each school in their area is. They can

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see whether we need traffic calming measures around the school. It is

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important that the local authorities do this work in order they know

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where they should ensure that cars slow down. We moved to questions

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from the party leaders. First is the leader of the opposition. Thank you.

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Why did the Welsh government that you are leading terminate the

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contract with the London women's fertility clinic ends Swansea?

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Assembly? We are going back some time now. In order to insure we have

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a service in place in Wales, the licensing process is taking place at

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the moment and we expect the new unit to be up and running as soon as

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possible. Thank you for that answer. I AM glad you recognise that it was

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some time away. Several half percent thousand entries in waiting time for

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IVF treatment in Wales cards because of the decision you too. You did not

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want the independent sector providing the services. How can it

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be fair for people who want to have children, to have that gift ticking

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away from them because of the ideological decision you took? It is

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clear there were no other reasons why that contract was ripped up and

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stop every commitment your government has given to date, that

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the service will be up and running on April the 1st of this year, has

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not been achieved. That commitment was 12 months late. Do not recognise

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you have failed to deliver for parents who hold that gift

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pressures. When we start to address the failure of IVF provision in

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Wales. As I say, the unit will be in operation as soon as possible. In

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the meantime, it has been possible to obtain services elsewhere,

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especially in Bristol. We now look forward to the service being

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concentrated in Nice and Talbot and giving better value for money.

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is an appalling answer. It has cost �1 million so far to try and

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replicate the service at Neath and Talbot which is still not open, 12

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month after the date you promised. That is a massive increase in

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waiting times and many families who have a short window of opportunity

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to access IVF services have missed that opportunity because of the

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delays. How can you stand there and defend the decision your government

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took in their third Assembly, and allowed it to continue in the fourth

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Assembly, when you promised your government would be about delivering

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for the people of Wales? Is it not clear you have failed to deliver for

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people in IVF circumstances in Wales and put huge pressure on clinicians

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who are trying to deliver the service in South Wales? Will you

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commit to making sure that all the resources of government are put to

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addressing the shortfall in the service so that parents can access

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IVF services in a timely manner and address build up since this

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decision. I would be pleased to see the evidence of people love missed

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out in that window. People have had access to a service, services have

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been available in Bristol. We now look forward to setting up of value

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for money, good service in Neath and Talbot provided by the NHS and I'm

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sure people in Wales will welcome that. Thank you. Today, the Chief

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Inspector said that she is frustrated at the pace of change in

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our schools. Do you share that frustration? The education minister

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made his few clear as to how he wants to take forward issues. -- his

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view clear. Literacy and new Morrissey remains a major issue for

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the Welsh education system, as stated by the Chief Inspector today.

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She is concerned had inspectors are not picking up systematic

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improvement. If this fourth Assembly is all about delivery, when will our

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children in our schools see some? do not think inactivity is a clear

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accusation against the education minister. He has put forward a

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number of plans. He has made it clear what he feels needs to be done

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in terms of taking education forward in Wales, including new Morrissey

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and C. This is something he is committed to. -- including literacy

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and new Morrissey. Your party has been in charge of the education

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system for 14 years. You and your education minister had been in post

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for four years. It is now approaching three years since the

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appalling result prompted that 20 point plan that was meant to turn

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things around. In that statement to the Chamber, your education minister

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said he was setting clear targets, he was aiming to improve results in

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the next assessment in 2012. It is still your expectation that when

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those results are published later this year, that results will have

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improved and if they do not, what will you do about it? We expect to

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see improvement in the results of any tests which are taking place.

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The reading tests start this week, if I remember rightly. This will

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show that our literacy and new Morrissey levels are competing to

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the best of Europe. -- new Morrissey. The education minister

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has improved things. Back in January 2012, it was announced that 20% of

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children start secondary school with a reading age below nine years old,

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which is generally considered to be their level of functional literacy.

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You took this Chamber and we are confident those figures will be

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improved on in years to come. However, the chief inspector said

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this morning inspectors are not picking up the systematic

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improvements which are required for dramatic changes which our system

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needs. Activity does not equal results. Can you please explain to

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us why the chief schools inspector thinks parents will have to wait

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before changes begin to surface? is supporting the position of the

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education minister. This is why the new changes have been introduced.

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The implementation of your improvement programmes has been

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criticised. A national support programme has not begun. The

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national literacy framework has not started and will not start until

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September. Like on the belief that is a lot more which could be done to

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improve our education system, for example early intervention, better

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training for teachers and making sure our young boys are not failed

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in the way they have been to date. It looks as if your education

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minister has become obsessed by structure and change within the

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education system at the expense of delivery. When will the national

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literacy and new Morrissey framework begin to deliver? We expect to see

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results to improve in the near future. As far as early

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intervention, that is being done. We look at the foundation phase, the

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way that was done, many children were in Key stage one. We expect

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these things to deliver in order to ensure the education system is the

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best in Europe. I don't know if she has policies to improve things, but

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our record speaks for itself. Minister, you've just said that

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process has begun and that things will improve in the future. Could

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you clarify exactly what the position is? Last week, Plaid Cymru

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held a debate about accountability within the NHS. You tell us that it

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is the responsibility of the local health board, the NHS, just the same

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as when you are asked questions about education. More often or not,

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you tell us it is the responsibility of local education authorities.

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After 14 years of a Labour education minister, why has not one single

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local education authority been judged as excellent when you've got

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special measures? You were in government for four years to try and

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somehow suggest that you have not been is unbelievable. It is a level

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of amnesiac I am surprised even Plaid Cymru have demonstrated. The

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reality is that when it comes to education, we have the policies in

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place to improve literacy and numeracy in Wales. I don't remember

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anything anything different to what was being

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done by Labour education ministers in Wales. We have selected amnesiac

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on the Plaid Cymru benches which the lead of Plaid Cymru typifies.

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move back to questions from the paper. Question three. What is the

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Welsh government doing to support the construction industry in Wales?

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We are committed to supporting the sector and working with the sector

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panel, we are delivering a range of support packages. I thank you for

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that answer. I welcome the latest funding boost for affordable housing

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in Wales. Above all, the construction industry needs work.

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Thank goodness this government understands that breathing life into

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the economy is more productive than suffocating it with delusional

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austerity. Take the Carmarthen Council's approach to building

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bungalows for older people. The first such developer and since the

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80s. I understand there are plans for more. Do you agree first

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Minister that projects like the one in Carmarthenshire which employ

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local constructors are what the economy needs at this time, and will

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you encourage other local authorities to follow this lead?

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welcome what, rather than is doing. We only -- using local contractors.

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Bungalows developed to achieve level four, the code for sustainable

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homes. It is meeting for home standards. It is a good example of

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the local authority delivering homes under labelled the -- Labour

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leadership. It is clear the industry still requires stimulus and support

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to ensure further expansion over the next few years and that is why it is

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surprising why the new buy scheme has been scrapped. Given the new

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scheme doesn't start till next year, what discussions have you had with

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the housebuilders Federation to make sure prospects are boosted for the

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construction sector? There was a meeting last Thursday. The minister

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is now working with the bodies involved in order to examine a new

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scheme which could be put in place with the support of the homebuilders

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Federation and the Council of mortgage lenders. Thank you. Every

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construction contract of any significant size goes to management

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project company, they subcontract that contract onwards. Very often

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local and smaller companies that at the very end of the chain. Will you

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ensure the original contract safeguards the rights and

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opportunities of local and smaller companies? That is of course

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important and Carmarthenshire has showed the way in terms of using the

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local companies to construct these new homes. It is very important

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local authorities to understand what their responsibilities and duties in

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terms of ensuring local businesses are used to construct new homes.

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Thank you. The new bike company scheme was quite important for the

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construction industry, in terms of people getting onto housing ladder.

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Given from the briefing that various spokespeople had a week ago, it is

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difficult to put together an interim scheme but you do have to refight

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like the assisting scheme. Can I ask, have you now got the financial

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institutions more interested in coming back to this scheme? The

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housebuilders had never not been interested but the financial

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institutions are part of that. the UK's scheme was introduced,

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certainly the lenders became unenthusiastic and the housebuilders

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Federation became sceptical. We're working with them to work on a new

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scheme that will be able to work effectively and get the support of

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both lenders and homebuilders. Minister, we know that one of the

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outstanding challenges and problems facing the construction sector is

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the continuing matter of blacklisting. I'm sure you are aware

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of the recent report of the Scottish affairs select committee on this

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matter and there are hundreds of Welsh workers we know were on the

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consulting associations blacklist. Do you support calls for a Pablo

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enquiry -- public enquiry in this matter? And members on the backers

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should be told by the information Commissioner they are on that list

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and intimate aspect that employment prospects in the past and future?

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do. People should be aware of what is done about them by outside

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organisations so that they have a chance to challenge the

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blacklisting. And that we see the blacklisting is done openly rather

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than secretly. We condemn blacklisting. Where it happens, that

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should be done in an open manner. At the moment, people don't have a fair

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chance to reply. Question for. the first Minister make a statement

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on improving your passenger services in Wales? Yes. We have recently seen

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the redoubling of the railway line between Gallatin and the huff.

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you. With regards to the quality of services the passengers experience,

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the quality of the rolling stock is important. With the electrification

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of the valleys lines forthcoming, can you tell us what steps you've

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taken to ensure the best quality of rolling stock has been made

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available and whether or not you've investigated the option of acting as

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a guarantor to ensure new rolling stock can be bought to serve the

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root? We cannot act as a guarantor, it isn't within our budget

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responsibility. What the member is arguing is that if the UK government

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censors ancient rolling stock, somehow we should pay for it. That

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is not right. What we are aware of his the situation. The last thing we

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want to see as old rolling stock being shipped to Wales because it is

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convenient. It is important that as the South Wales Metro takes place,

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there is rolling stock of sufficient quality. In order to make sure

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people have confidence in it. Minister, I recently met with a

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member of passenger focus. Travellers who use the valleys line

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register lower satisfaction rates than those who use other rail

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networks across Wales. What measures can the Welsh government take to

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change this? We can take measures in terms of our investment. We see the

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new platforms at several stations. The central improvement as well,

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funded by the Welsh government. We also need to see the investment

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brought forward as quickly as possible -- by the UK government

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into the South Wales Metro so we can have a commuter train system for the

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21st-century. First Minister, you find has abated my question. Given

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the �40 million investment in the line from Swansea with the duelling

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of the line, what steps is the government taking to ensure that

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full advantage is being taken by the operators to make sure they stop at

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additional stops? The fact the stations are verbal mean the

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operators will use those stations. Somebody who uses the trains

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frequently, I can see the demands for it. The only do was on a train

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going to his party conference, and the very fact this was seen as

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newsworthy the Leader of the Opposition was on the train was very

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strange! We have to be mindful of the passengers on the train. They

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had to suffer him making station announcements. We have to feel sorry

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for them because they would have listened to the station

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announcement, heard his voice, and known for sure they were going in

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the wrong direction. That was the problem they would have faced. The

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fact the Leader of the Opposition was on a train is something he would

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see as newsworthy but some of us use the trains far more frequently.

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Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. Evidence of the United

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Kingdom government to the silk commissions suggests there is a

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possibility of devolving some of the powers franchising to Welsh

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government. Is it the Welsh government's intention to make a

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detailed statement on the railway policy and when will that happen?

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depends on the funding and the budget. We are willing to look at

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powers over the railways if that funding follows. Experienced and

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strengths that if new powers are provided to the Assembly, the

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funding doesn't tend to follow. In terms of the franchise, that is

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something that we want to see in Wales, managed in Wales, but in

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terms of taking action on railways themselves, there would have to be a

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fair settlement in terms of funding to ensure that could happen. What

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discussions has the first Minister had with the UK government in

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relation to the content of the Queens speech? Well, we've discussed

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many issues with the United Kingdom government as regards possible bills

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that may have implications for Wales. Of course, we are now

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awaiting confirmation of the United Kingdom's legislative programme in

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the Queens speech tomorrow. Thank you, first Minister. In your letter

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to George Osborne you made it very clear that you see early action on

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the first part of the silk commission as being crucial to

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retain the union, given there is a vote on independence in Scotland.

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Now, unless there is action outlined in the Queens speech and steps

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outlined there as to how this should be implemented, what would your

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response because Mac I will support it. We support the conclusions of

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it. We don't need legislation but what we need is a letter from the

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Treasury as regards taxation powers, and we believe that could be

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something which could be part of a finance bill in the Westminster

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government. Most important is that all the conclusions in their

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entirety are progressed by the United Kingdom government.

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referred to my train journey, first Minister. All the passengers arrived

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on time. If they had relied on you, they would still be waiting at the

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station! Back to the question in hand. It has been muted from the

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Cabinet Office they could potentially be a civil service bill

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in the Queens speech tomorrow. I don't know whether that is the case

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or not, it is press speculation. Have you had any discussions with

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the Westminster government given the close relationship regarding the

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civil service here in Wales and in Whitehall, and given your experience

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in government, do you believe any changes do need to be made to the

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structure of the civil service to make government more efficient and

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deliver better services across Wales? He makes the point the

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train... I wouldn't want to drive the train which, apparently, he did.

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As if it is something he could pick up just like that! It is quite an

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assumption on his part. With Pat discussions with the UK government

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many times over the civil service and we've taken a view there should

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be greater devolution of the senior civil service. There needs to be

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more formal devolution in terms of the appointment of a permanent

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secretary and we hope they civil service bill will reflect devolved

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reality rather than the situation at the moment were in theory if not

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perhaps in practice the appointment of the most senior civil servant can

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be made by the Prime Minister without any input from the first

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Minister. I hasten to add that wasn't the case last time around but

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it remains in theory. Thank you. It is likely that in the next term of

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Parliament, there will be a government of Wales Bill once again

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to amend the way we elect members, both on the lists and in

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constituencies. Isn't it about time that we had a third government of

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Wales act that devolves the electoral system to this place? And

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allows us to elect 80 members through transferable vote system in

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multimember constituencies as have worked so excellently? Well, as

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regards the electoral system, at present it is not clear whether the

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power has the power to amend the local authority electoral

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procedures. It is not clear in the act itself. It is very important

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that we have the powers to ensure that we control the electoral

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system. That is more or less agreement on that throughout this

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Chamber. When this came before the Assembly and we debated the issue,

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there was a suggestion that 66% of the members, 66% of their members to

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vote in favour of a change. I support that very much. We should

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actually be controlling the electoral system for the National

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Assembly for Wales is a very important principle indeed. Thank

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you. Will he make a statement on what the Welsh government is doing

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to improve transport links between West Wales and other parts of the

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country? And other investments had taken place in the infrastructure

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between West Wales and other parts of the country. As I mentioned

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earlier, the railway route between Gavin Martin -- between Gowerton.

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Also the fact that there are fish guard station has reopened which

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shows the commitment of the government to the West. He will be

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away I campaigned to make the A40 dual carriageway, I think this would

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improve standards locally and improve the quality of services to

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tourists and businesses as well. Your deputy ministers said that he

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recognised there was a time possibly when their A40 could be made into a

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dual carriageway. Can you confirm that your government will not

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actually dismiss the issue of making the A40 dual carriageway in the

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future? We are not avoiding that as a principle but we are looking at

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the financial reality. Improvements have taken place on the road. There

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will be improvements to improve the A40 which will progress, considering

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the financial position. One of the most important roots in West Wales

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is the link to Aberystwyth from Carmarthen. Significant improvements

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have been made to the section intends again and the last few

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years, but there have been no improvements on the car marred

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inside. -- car marred them. What role do you envisage your party

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taking as this is a nationally important route, inputting Drescher

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on the Carmarthen Council to prioritise this route which is

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important to not only them but West Wales in general? The road between

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car and Lampeter has improved because there is no bypass in car

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marred them. There used to be a problem there. The road has been

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introduced in two other parts as well. Improvements have taken parts

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-- taken place in that area. People have been assisted in their travels

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to Pembrokeshire. In recent weeks, Carmarthenshire county council has

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committed to carrying out a feasibility study into the project

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of the opening scene clear station which would help commuters and

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reduce pressure on road traffic and improve the wider county's

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sustainability. Should that study come through with a positive

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recommendation, will the first Minister commit to working with the

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Minister for business and enterprise to deliver such a scheme? I have two

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cautioned that capital budgets are now being destroyed over the next

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few years. Revenue budgets are being hammered. The government cannot give

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any commitment knowing the financial pressures which are being imposed on

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us by the UK government. Will he make a statement on the provision of

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health care for children in South Wales? This is part of our plans and

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priorities set out in our policy documents. There are long-standing

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worries about sustainability for children's services at Royal Gwent

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Hospital and other hospitals is becoming more acute, primarily due

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to staffing problems. What defines how is he to attract staff with the

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relevant skill sets? The network is monitoring performance standards in

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South Wales. There has been an improvement. The reallocation in

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federally /0, there is care was transferred to a high dependency

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skier -- here. The 2013 neo-natal capacity review ensured change to

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maintain sustainability of service. These are matters for their health

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department to take forward as a matter of course. When does the

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Welsh government expect to make a decision about whether or not

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children with cerebral palsy and receive selectors drugs on the NHS?

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Children in England can get this drug but at the moment it is

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restricted to those who can afford to go to the United States. I

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understand it was due to be discussed in March but was

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postponed. There are many parents who have children with this

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condition who are anxiously awaiting to see whether they can have access

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to this which would materially improve the mobility of their

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children. It is a portal that the treatment is appropriate. I know a

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lot of hopes raised without treatment but not always fulfilled.

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-- it is important. Of course, it is possible to make a case for this

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service is to be accessed in England, if it is deemed to be

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appropriate for that individual by the consultant. The situation

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regarding that procedure is being kept under review. I understand many

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children in deprived areas suffer from depression and pure mental

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health, what is the Welsh government doing as part of its child poverty

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strategy to reduce the number of children living in poverty in

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south-east Wales to improve their mental health? We have been tackling

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poverty in the poverty action plan. We have communities first and the

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numerous employment and apprenticeship schemes in place. We

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are trying to deal with the after-effects of welfare reform will

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stop we cannot do with all the native effects which are being

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imposed on people as a result of that. Will the first Minister make a

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statement on recent discussions he has had with the UK government

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relating to get Aleutian? I have many discussions over the course of

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the last few weeks with regard to demolition, as regards -- also

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formal meetings with the Secretary of State regarding his views on

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revolution. Last year, he urged the Chancellor not to drag his feet on

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demolition and powers. I heard your answer to Simon Thomas this

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afternoon. Which you clarify if you have the full support of your Labour

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MPs and the Shadow Chancellor, and will this be a priority for them?

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Yes. We hope for it to be implemented in school and there

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needs to be an end to the opposition to the implementation of the Silk

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Report. The Welsh government would hope to see the full part of the

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Silk Report implemented. Does the first Minister think that reports of

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the weekend that the Chancellor is preparing to announce a new tool

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waterway to ease congestion on the M4 illustrates the lack of

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understanding of demolition in the Treasury? Yes, I know that has been

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discredited since what the reality is the Treasury has no power to

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impose a new tool on roads in Wales. They are devolved. I understand this

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was a story which appeared in one of the newspapers and was denied by the

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Chancellor. This raises the question of who could it be in the first

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place. It clearly came from someone in government. It makes no sense in

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practical terms. No one is going to pay at all on this road. The

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attractiveness of using a tall to finance that roads is not practical

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because it does not make any money. We understand maintenance costs are

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so high, it is not a way to make money effectively. There seems to be

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some confusion in the UK government. Someone planted this story in the

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papers. I welcome the view of the Chancellor on this, he said it would

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not be taking forward. We are working with UK Government and we

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expect to see a decent deal with regard to the Severn Bridge. It

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cannot work that people will be charged to come into their own

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country by a government in England. That cannot be right. That is

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something we will not tolerate in the future. During June this year,

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the silk commission will be holding a series of meetings about

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revolution with the public. Can you tell me what the Welsh public will

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-- Welsh government will be doing to encourage the public to take part in

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the meetings and will you help assist people take part in those

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discussions? It is not our commission, it is for the English

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government to do that. We do not interfere in the workings of the

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Silk Commission. We have made clear a substantial body of evidence of

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what we could deliver. There we are, we will be first

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Minister's Questions there. You can see more on the BBC website. Let us

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pick up with some of that on our web -- with our Welsh affairs editor who

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has been watching. I think it was interesting that both the Liberal

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Democrat leader and the Plaid Cymru leader went on about numeracy and

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literacy rates in Wales. Yes, I do not think they were quarter meeting,

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there was not a plot. It was an obvious subject to choose. It was in

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the news and the government is vulnerable on that subject. They

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approached it from different angles. It can be awkward if you are the

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second person talking about the same subject will stop that did not

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happen today. The problem the opposition parties have is that the

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one minister or a last minister you could accuse of inactivity is the

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education Minister, Leighton Andrews. They had to come down to

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the question of effectiveness. Carwyn Jones batted the questions we

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easily. There are some big statistical measures coming up,

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figures are due later this year for instance. That could cause him

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little grief. This is perhaps peering at the ground for a tax to

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come between now and the next Assembly election. There was a lot

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about transport today. Yes, it was a funny PMQ's today. There were a lot

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of local papers stories, stories about specific issues about speed

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limits are in schools, reopening stations and road improvements.

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Perhaps those were designed mainly for the local papers, but that is

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part of first Minister questions, it is to try and raise the profile of

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local issues. A lot of it today was very parish orientated. When it came

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from the opposition, Carwyn Jones just said, you keep suggesting all

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these nice things, new stations and dualling the roads, we will be get

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the money from it given what the Westminster Government gives us?

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did see that political ribbing between Carwyn Jones and Andrew

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Davies about his political stunt recently, the trip on the train to

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the conference in Swansea when he did the station announcements.

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That's right. There were a couple of good jokes there. They probably took

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it too far. Taking the neck out of your opponents's photo opportunities

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is fairly easy grist to the mill. also held about calling for 80

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Assembly Members. -- heard about. was talking about the single

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transferable vote which we do not think will happen. Across the

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parties there is agreement that the voting procedure should be decided

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in Cardiff is, to prevent a single party forcing through changes which

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might be to their chain -- to their advantage. That could happen. That

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is a feeling that it is embarrassing all-round to have been Assembly

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voting system set in Westminster. will watch with interest. Thank you.

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I'll be back at the same time next week with more coverage of First

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