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good aftepnoon, H national Assembly for Wales to

good aftepnoon, H order, item one, questions to the

or`er, item one, questions to the First Minister.

Will he make a statement on the Wihl he m`ke a statement on thd

impact of funding cuts on the Wihl he m`ke a statement on thd

service in Wales? Tha

service in Wales? The NHS revenue but it has not

service in Wales? cut. Where there are budgets at

service in Wales? local level, we know there is

service in Wales? pressure on services,

service in Wales? prascure on services, it

prassure nn servhces, it as important we have the best possible

prassure nn servhces, it as doctors to provide the highest

qualaty doctors to provide the highest

quality service. Will you doctors to provide the highest

the steps taken by Bangor University tha cteps taken `y Bangnr Univdrsity

to ensure that there are more tha cteps taken `y Bangnr Univdrsity

opportunities to oppobtunities to young Velsh pdople

to study medicine in Wales oppobtunities to young Velsh pdople

to study ledicind in Wales in oppobtunities to young Velsh pdople

to study medicine in Wales in their to sdudy ledicind an Wales in their

local areas to tackle recruitment to sdudy ledicind an Wales in their

This is part to sdudy ledicind an Wales in their

This is p`rd of the to sdudy ledicind an Wales in their

This is part of the government to sdudy ledicind an Wales in their

strategy to recruit more people to stpategy to recruit more people to

study in Wales and remain in Wales stpategy to recruit more people to

is working doctors, and attract stpategy to recruit more people to

experienced doctors to the health expebienced doctors to the health

service. We expebienced doctors to the health

sepvace. We warmly expebienced doctors to the health

service. We warmly welcome any steps that ensure those aims are

service. We warmly welcome any steps that ensure thosd aims are met.

service. We warmly welcome any steps First Minister, NHS trusts in

Firsd Minhsder, LHS trurts in England has seen a ?20 billion

Firsd Minhsder, LHS trurts in reduction in funding under the

Conservatives. That has led to 4000 reduction in funding under the

fewer nurses. In Wales, nurse numbers have remained stable.

fewer nurses. In Wales, nurse numbers have rem`ined stable. Vith

numbers have remained stable. With tha

numbers have remained stable. With the extra ?10 million your

numbers have remained stable. With government has said it will put in,

we hope to see nurse places increase. What more can your

we hope to see nurse places government do to ensure we have the

gotebnment do to ensure we havd the appropriate number of clinical staff

gotebnment do to ensure we havd the acpocs Nopt` Wales

across North Wales where historicallq

across North Wales where historically it has been difficult

across North Wales where to recruit?

Tha to recruit?

The medical recruitment to recruit?

Tha medical recruitment progralme, The medical recruitment programme,

an` The medical recruitment programme,

and there have been many thousands The medical recruitment programme,

of nurses who have lost their job in of nerses w`o hate lost t`eir job in

England, that has not happened in Wales.

England, that has not happened in Walec. We

England, that has not happened in Wales. We have provided the

England, that has not happened in appropriate resources to deliver in

fupube. future.

Yoq future.

You suggested the future.

You suggested thd NH isn't You suggested the NHS isn't having

its budget cut in Wales. its budget cut il Wales. An real

time budget cuts, it has had the time budgdt cuts, at har `ad the

biggest in its history. One of the servaces

biggest in its history. One of the services under pressure as a result

servaces tnder ppessure as a result in North Wales and elsewhere is the

servaces tnder ppessure as a result child and adolescent

servaces tnder ppessure as a result child and adolesbent mental

servaces tnder ppessure as a result child and adolescent mental health

servaces tnder ppessure as a result service which has

sepvice which har experienced long delays in waiting times for children

needing access to support. Some delays in waiting times for children

experts have claimed services across Wahec

experts have claimed services across Wales are

experts have claimed services across Wahes are o`erating

experts have claimed services across Wales are operating up to 40% of the

experts have claimed services across recommended staffing levels. What is

experts have claimed services across your government going

experts have claimed services across ensure people

experts have claimed services across ensube people have

experts have claimed services across interventions from this service when

experts have claimed services across they need it?

I refute the allegations about recobd-breacing

I refute the allegations about record-breaking cuts. I wonder

what`er record-breaking cuts. I wonder

whether he will be record-breaking cuts. I wonder

what`er he gill be replaced record-breaking cuts. I wonder

whether he will be replaced by a parrot on the ventures. The reality

is ?620 million extra has been put is ?20 mhllion dxtra h`s been put

into the budget. I know it is painful but

into the budget. I know it is painful btt he ndeds to

into the budget. I know it is painful but he needs to listen. In

into the budget. I know it is October, the health Minister

annoenced October, the health Minister

announced ?250,000 extra annually to announced ?"50,000 extra annually to

ensure more people are cared for announced ?"50,000 extra annually to

Wales, and many announced ?"50,000 extra annually to

Wahes, and many lore announced ?"50,000 extra annually to

Wales, and many more patients to be sean

Wales, and many more patients to be seen in primary care to treat the

Wales, and many more patients to be most complex cases. ?3.5 million

Wales, and many more patients to be invested in this service.

Firsd invested in this service.

First Minister, the Public Fipsd Minhsder, the ublic Accounts

Committee has demonstrated the health board reduced its

Committee has demonstrated the healdh board reduced its deficit

health board reduced its deficit from the end of month nine down

health board reduced its deficit ?7.5 million. An individual has

contacted me saying her treatment ?7.5 million. An individual has

had been deferred and the hospital had been deferred and the hosphtal

had told her that all day had been deferred and the hosphtal

in her hospital had been deferred had been deferred and the hosphtal

from March. Is the government aware, and could you confirm

from March. Is the government that sort of policy exists within

this health board? that sort of policy exists within

It is difficult to give any opinion It ic difdicult to give any ophnion

on the situation of an individual It ic difdicult to give any ophnion

without the facts to hand. It ic difdicult to give any ophnion

all local health boards to ensure that they have sufficient resources

all local health boards to ensure during the financial

all local health boards to ensure duping thd financial year, to

during thd finanbial year, to progress with the surgery they

during thd finanbial year, to should be carried out.

during thd finanbial year, to What can the Welsh Government do to

mipigate What can the Welsh Government do to

mitigate the impact of the bedroom tax? We have implemented a number of

initiatives, ?1.3 million tax? We have implemented a number of

additionally tax? We have implemented a number of

ad`idionally to tax? We have implemented a number of

additionally to Welsh authorities to addidionallq to Velsh att`orities to

add to their discretionary housing add to thdib disbretion`rq houring

funds. A trabunal an Moltgomerys`ire,

A tribunal in Montgomeryshire, Monmouthshibe,

A tribunal in Montgomeryshire, Monmouthshire, has decided bedrooms

A tribunal in Montgomeryshire, used as a study and art room are not

A tribunal in Montgomeryshire, counted as

A tribunal in Montgomeryshire, counded ar bedrooms. But

A tribunal in Montgomeryshire, counted as bedrooms. But a tribunal

A tribunal in Montgomeryshire, in Cardiff has decided the

oppocite. in Cardiff has decided the

opposite. I wondered how the opposite. I wonddred how the

government can help opposite. I wonddred how the

goternment can help clarify thd opposite. I wonddred how the

situation of this poor sipuation of this poor legislation?

It illustrates the mess raining as a result of this policy with

inconsistency result of this policy with

What I can say is that there is a What I cal cay is that there is a

possibility of appeal to the upper What I cal cay is that there is a

tribunal. It shows this policy was What I cal cay is that there is a

ill thought out and What I cal cay is that there is a

and ill implemented, as What I cal cay is that there is a

and all implemented, as evidenbed By and ill implemented, as evidenced by

tha and ill implemented, as evidenced by

the fact there is a lack of and ill implemented, as evidenced by

consistency in terms of the and ill implemented, as evidenced by

colsastenby in terms of the wax and ill implemented, as evidenced by

consistency in terms of the way it and ill implemented, as evidenced by

has been implemented across Wales. Laboer

has been implemented across Wales. Labour introduced this policy for

hoqsang Labour introduced this policy for

housing benefit recipients hoqsing bdnefit pecipients in 2008.

DWP guidance was issued to DWP guidalce was issued to every

local authority DWP guidalce was issued to every

local authobity hn DWP guidalce was issued to every

local authority in 2011 and 2012 on discretionary

local authority in 2011 and 2012 on discbetiolary housang

local authority in 2011 and 2012 on discretionary housing payments,

local authority in 2011 and 2012 on saying disabled people in

local authority in 2011 and 2012 on accommodation should be

prioritised, accommodation should be

priobitisdd, but we know accommodation should be

prioritised, but we know Welsh accommodation should be

gapment figeres accommodation should be

garment figures show only accommodation should be

gapment figeres rhow only three accommodation should be

garment figures show only three out accommodation should be

of 22 local authorities spent even hahf

of 22 local authorities spent even half those payments, even though

unspent money has two go back to the Treasury. Why is

unspent money has two go back to the Local authobities must lace

unspent money has two go back to the Local authorities must make sure

unspent money has two go back to the they get

unspent money has two go back to the thay get the money

unspent money has two go back to the they get the money out of

unspent money has two go back to the thay get the money out of the

unspent money has two go back to the they get the money out of the door,

as they are asked to do. The demand they get the money out of the door,

for they get the money out of the door,

fop discretaonary `ousing they get the money out of the door,

for discretionary housing payments they get the money out of the door,

in 15 local authorities in the first hahf

in 15 local authorities in the first half of the financial year has

increased by 269 said, compared to increased bq 269 said, bompared to

last year. That tells us there increased bq 269 said, bompared to

immense hardship out increased bq 269 said, bompared to

of the introduction of the bedroom tax. It is a policy the party

tax. It is a policq the party opposite continues to

tax. It is a policq the party despate the effect

tax. It is a policq the party despite the effect it has on

despite the effect it h`s on m`ny people who are working, the effect

despite the effect it h`s on m`ny it has on many people

it has on many pdople who are disabled, despite the incredible

inconsistency with which it disabled, despite the incredible

inconsistency with which at is inconsistency with which it is

inpebpreted. inconsistency with which it is

interpreted. It inconsistency with which it is

inpebpreted. t vas inconsistency with which it is

interpreted. It was nothing more inconsistency with which it is

than an attempt to have a go inconsistency with which it is

degrade those who have the least incomes, `y

degrade those who have the least incomes, by leaving those

degrade those who have the least greatest

degrade those who have the least First Minister, the case decided

degrade those who have the least Monmouthshire that a bedroom needed

degrade those who have the least to be furlished and

degrade those who have the least to be furnished and used

degrade those who have the least bedroom before it could be

degrade those who have the least considered as such.

degrade those who have the least winning appeal at tribunal. These

must be related to other tenants iN must be related to other tenants in

siiilar must be related to other tenants in

similar circumstances, so they can avoid this cpitedul

similar circumstances, so they can avoid this spiteful policy. What are

you avoid this spiteful policy. What are

yoq doing avoid this spiteful policy. What are

you doing to ensure yoq doing to enstre that tenants

across the country are getting yoq doing to enstre that tenants

information, so they can appeal against those decisions by the

information, so they can appeal authority? The

information, so they can appeal auphority> The difficulty

information, so they can appeal authority? The difficulty is these

information, so they can appeal are lower tribunal

information, so they can appeal What is decided in one local

auphority What is decided in one local

authority does not necessarily have to be followed elsewhere. The way

authority does not necessarily have resolve it is with better guidance

from DWP said resolve it is with better guidance

from DWP raid thdre resolve it is with better guidance

from DWP said there is a better un`ebstanding

from DWP said there is a better understanding in

from DWP said there is a better That has not been forthcoming.

from DWP said there is a better I am not a fan of the bedroom tax,

from DWP said there is a better but I want provisions which

from DWP said there is a better alleviate its impact. The vast

alheviate ids impact. The vast majority of Welsh councils when they

assess a claimant for discretionary majority of Welsh councils when they

housing payment take into account majority of Welsh councils when they

disabled living allowance and child majority of Welsh councils when they

benefit, which the DWP majority of Welsh councils when they

benefit, vhach the DWP does majority of Welsh councils when they

benefit, which the DWP does not do. Can qou give advhce to those

benefit, which the DWP does not do. councils to say this is not how to

coqncils to say thas is not how to go forward, these payments for

coqncils to say thas is not how to disabled lifing

coqncils to say thas is not how to disabled living allowance and child

coqncils to say thas is not how to benefit are four different issues.

coqncils to say thas is not how to We will see what we can do

We wall sde what we can do to counter the lack of information

counder the lack of information from the UK government which

counder the lack of information from ultimately responsible for this

counder the lack of information from policy. We should

counder the lack of information from with discretionary housing

payments, the allocation of with discretionary housing

million, the bedroom tax cost Sarel mihlion, the bedpoom tax cost Rarel

?23 million a year, there is nn way that loss can be made up to Wales

?23 million a year, there is nn way a result

?23 million a year, there is nn way a pecult nf

?23 million a year, there is nn way a result of these

?23 million a year, there is nn way many hard,working families

?23 million a year, there is nn way hammered by the Conservatives.

?23 million a year, there is nn way Now, questions from the party

leaders. First this afternoon, the leaders. Dibst this afternoon, the

leader of the opposition. leaders. Dibst this afternoon, the

Do you think the January leaders. Dibst this afternoon, the

Do you thhnk the January GCSE Do you thhnc the January GCSE hn

dish results were an injustice to Do you thhnc the January GCSE hn

people in Wales? There is a review taking place. 16%

of schools are There is a review taking place. 16%

It was clearly used, this word It was cleably ured, thhs word

injustice, It was cleably ured, thhs word

inhuctice, because It was cleably ured, thhs word

injustice, because it was used by tha

injustice, because it was used by the last minister 18 months ago. He

injustice, because it was used by said, to ensure such an injustice

said, to dncure ruch an injustice does not happen in future...

said, to dncure ruch an injustice doas not happen in future... .

said, to dncure ruch an injustice head of the Association of School

said, to dncure ruch an injustice and College leaders said there has

said, to dncure ruch an injustice been a wheelbarrow loads of evidence

said, to dncure ruch an injustice already pointing to systemic failure

said, to dncure ruch an injustice in the system. What is bemusing a

said, to dncure ruch an injustice lot of people is how this situation

said, to dncure ruch an injustice has occurred. It is knocked the

confadence has occurred. It is knocked the

confidence of learners, the confidence of teachers. When you

confidence of learners, the have the Chief Executive saying

confidence of learners, the have the Chief Executivd saying the

have the Bhief Executivd sayinf the government

have the Bhief Executivd sayinf the govebnment chould

have the Bhief Executivd sayinf the government should now pause on its

have the Bhief Executivd sayinf the reform of the qualifications system,

do you not think you should start do you not dhink you shnuld start

listening to such senior people in the educational establishment, so

listening to such senior people in that learners can

listening to such senior people in that learlebs cal `ave

listening to such senior people in that learners can have confidence

that learlebs cal `ave bonfidence they will be given a fair crack of

that learlebs cal `ave bonfidence the whip?

If Michael Gove did that, If Machael Gove did that, England

would be a far better place. He medals at every opportunity. With

medals at efery npportunity. Whth regard to English, one unit in a

regard to English, one tnat in a minority of schools has been

minobity nf schools has been affected. It is fair to say that

minobity nf schools has been rigour in terms of the marking

minobity nf schools has been system has

minobity nf schools has been system har been improved.

minobity nf schools has been Nevertheless, there is a

minobity nf schools has been being taken forward. The Minister

being takdn forward. Thd Minister will give further details later. 81

wihl give ferthep details later. 81 schools have been affected by the

wihl give ferthep details later. 81 calamity that

wihl give ferthep details later. 81 cahamity that happened last

wihl give ferthep details later. 81 calamity that happened last week to

wihl give ferthep details later. 81 theib cohnrd takhng

wihl give ferthep details later. 81 their cohort taking these exams.

It has knocked confidence, just on tha

It has knocked confidence, just on the eve

It has knocked confidence, just on tha eve of dhe

It has knocked confidence, just on the eve of the main summer exams,

It has knocked confidence, just on not the confidence

nop dhe confidenbe of teachers teaching those modules. There is

teaching those mndules. T`ere hs critical evidence that shows

critacal evidence that rhows the information to schools was slow

critacal evidence that rhows the being made available through the

being madd available through the modules as it

being madd available through the in schools in October 2012. We saw a

being madd available through the declane from 23% pass, down

being madd available through the decline from 23% pass, down to

decline fpom 23% pass, down to 5% pass, and 18% reduction. When the

pass, and 10% reduction. When the Chief Executive of the WJC. And he

is the most senior person of is the most senior persnn of that

examination board, we should listen is the most senior persnn of that

to the board, shouldn't you is the most senior persnn of that

listening to the educationalists who is the most senior persnn of that

want to improve Welsh education and install, pestore

want to improve Welsh education and install, restore confidence?

want to improve Welsh education and Really, from a man whose party was

to cet Really, from a man whose party was

to cut education funding by 20%... Really, from a man whose party was

It is outstanding. He must Really, from a man whose party was

It is outstandinf. He must think Really, from a man whose party was

It is outstanding. He must think the Really, from a man whose party was

Wehs` public Really, from a man whose party was

Welsh public is stupid. That is Really, from a man whose party was

Wehs` public is stupid. T`at is what Really, from a man whose party was

his party wants to do. Really, from a man whose party was

apology for raising the standards Really, from a man whose party was

GCSE English, no apology for GCSE Englis`, no apologx for

ensuring spelling GCSE Englis`, no apologx for

ensubing spellinf and GCSE Englis`, no apologx for

ensuring spelling and grammar ensubing rpellinf and grammar `re

examined in a way they should. And ensube

examined in a way they should. And ensure -- I am

examined in a way they should. And ensube -- I am sure

examined in a way they should. And ensure -- I am sure the public would

ensube -- I am stre the public would support

Order. Gracious me! The leader of Plaid Cymru. I know that you will

Plaid ympu. klow that qou will agree with me that although

agpee with me th`t althnugh international women's day

agpee with me th`t althnugh annual event, we should work

agpee with me th`t althnugh day to ensure that issues of concern

to women remain on the political day to ensure that issues of concern

agenda. Yesterday, two Welsh day to ensure that issues of concern

officers were dismissed for day to ensure that issues of concern

to properly follow up complaints of day to ensure that issues of concern

sexual assault on domestic abuse survivors

sexual assault on domestic abuse supvavors bq

sexual assault on domestic abuse survivors by another officer.

Although survivors by another officer.

Alphough policinf survivors by another officer.

Although policing is not survivors by another officer.

Alphough policinf as not default, what action you and your government

take to make sure that lessons what action you and your government

learned from what action you and your government

learned fpom this? We h`ve the learned from this? We have the

violence against women build that is being taken through the Assembly and

that will be an opportunity to examine issues such as this and

examine issees stc` as thas and strengthen the law where we can with

more confidence to ensure that this strengthen the law where we can with

is not just one day every strengthen the law where we can with

is not just one daq every year but is not just one day every year but

soiedhing t`at is not just one day every year but

something that is mainstream, is not just one day every year but

everyday. I know that proposals for everqday. I know t`at proposals for

legislation on domestic legiclation on dnmestic abuse vill

continue and will consider how legiclation on dnmestic abuse vill

bodies can legiclation on dnmestic abuse vill

bodies cal gork together legiclation on dnmestic abuse vill

bodies can work together in order to legiclation on dnmestic abuse vill

reduce such obvious. One proposal is to cbeate

reduce such obvious. One proposal is to create an adviser with a

reduce such obvious. One proposal is statutory role to work with Dublin

reduce such obvious. One proposal is bodies and government. Could such

reduce such obvious. One proposal is role work, even the policing is

role work, even the policang is not yet devolved? It could and there are

yet devolted? It could `nd there are many ways that domestic abuse can be

yet devolted? It could `nd there are avoided ald that

yet devolted? It could `nd there are services and advice services and in

yet devolted? It could `nd there are many ways, when abuse comes to the

yet devolted? It could `nd there are attention of the police and the

yet devolted? It could `nd there are prosecuting authorities,

yet devolted? It could `nd there are often gond doo far.

yet devolted? It could `nd there are often gone too far. With devolved

yet devolted? It could `nd there are competence, we want to ensure that

yet devolted? It could `nd there are things are done before things get to

that stage. I welcome that response. Plaid Cymru would support the view

that prevention is better than that prevdndion hs better than your.

We also agree that early inpebvention

We also agree that early intervention and

We also agree that early inpebvention and education

We also agree that early intervention and education are

We also agree that early crucial in this and there has been

We also agree that early recent concern about evidence

We also agree that early attitudes towards sexual

We also agree that early and sexual violence. What

We also agree that early interventions can the

We also agree that early take within the education system

take withhn the dducation system to help create healthier attitudes

towabds gdnder equality help create healthier attitudes

towards gender equality and sexual help create healthier attitudes

relationshi`s? I help create healthier attitudes

relationships? I hope this forms help create healthier attitudes

part of what schools are teaching in help create healthier attitudes

courses, ensuring that help create healthier attitudes

reduce not just well educated academic hndividuals but

academic individuals but well roqnded

academic individuals but well rounded also and another

roqnded also and another many schools have made an effort

roqnded also and another many eqqality is seen

roqnded also and another many equality is seen as important,

roqnded also and another many that racial or sexual equality and I

that racial or sdxual equality and I am glad to see the examples I have

am glad to cee the examples I have seen in schools around Wales.

Finally, the leader of the Welsh seen in schools around Wales.

Liberal Democrats. Last year, the seen in schools around Wales.

NUJ surveyed members asking seen in schools around Wales.

about their experience of the new seen in schools around Wales.

literacy and numeracy tests. Unfortunately,

literacy and numeracy tests. Undortunately, the

literacy and numeracy tests. Unfortunately, the results do not

make for positive reading. Do you thinc

make for positive reading. Do you think these tests have been

make for positive reading. Do you thinc these tests `ave been a

think these tests have been a posidive ex`erience

think these tests have been a positive experience for pupils? 93%

of teachers said no. Do you positive experience for pupils? 93%

the test have provided positive experience for pupils? 93%

information about pupils that is not positive experience for pupils? 93%

provided by teacher assessments? 92% positive experience for pupils? 93%

of teachers said no. First Minister, if you cannot carry the profession

of teachers said no. First Minister, with you, how

of teachers said no. First Minister, wiph you, how on earth

of teachers said no. First Minister, with you, how on earth can you

of teachers said no. First Minister, expect thdse

of teachers said no. First Minister, expect these tests to make the

difference in literacy and numerous didference an literacy `nd numdrous

that our children so desperately that our bhaldrel so desperately

need? I am a parent and I welcome that our bhaldrel so desperately

those tests, as do many others. I that our bhaldrel so desperately

was able to understand, children that our bhaldrel so desperately

were doing. It might be that some in tha `rofessaon

were doing. It might be that some in the profession do

were doing. It might be that some in tha `rofessaon do not like it,

were doing. It might be that some in the profession do not like it, but

were doing. It might be that some in the tests are staying. I want to

make sure that teachers are able to the tests are staying. I want to

benchmark their own the tests are staying. I want to

children against the tests are staying. I want to

children `gainst a the tests are staying. I want to

children against a more the tests are staying. I want to

children `gainst a more objective children against a more objective

benchmark, that children against a more objective

belc`mark, dhat hs helpful children against a more objective

benchmark, that is helpful for them. Bup

benchmark, that is helpful for them. But I strongly believe

benchmark, that is helpful for them. But I strongly belaeve that parents

But I strongly bdlaeve that parents have welcomed

But I strongly bdlaeve that parents hate welcomed these tests in order

have welcomed these tests in order to pbovide an idea of

have welcomed these tests in order to provide an idea of how children

ara to provide an idea of how children

are progressing. What were you doing to provide an idea of how children

as a govepnment to provide an idea of how children

as a government to ensure that the profession felt the same way? From

this survdy, profession felt the same way? From

this survey, they do not. Last week we did see

this survey, they do not. Last week we dad see enexpectedly low

this survey, they do not. Last week we did see unexpectedly low results

from the we did see unexpectedly low results

exams. That was in a lot of Welsh schools. The WGC says that some

exams. That was in a lot of Welsh schools appear to have struggled

exams. That was in a lot of Welsh with the changes to that exam and

thay with the changes to that exam and

they have not prepared themselves or with the changes to that exam and

their children well enough. Could with the changes to that exam and

you outline what with the changes to that exam and

government did take to ensure with the changes to that exam and

gotebnment did take to ensure that with the changes to that exam and

the profession with the changes to that exam and

the professaon ald with the changes to that exam and

the profession and the schools tha professaon ald the rc`ools were

ready for those exams? As the Education Minister can

ready for those exams? As the is clear from the initial findings

that this is not something that that this ic not somethhng that

happened in every school. happened hn every school. Some

schools were not affected and some more

schools were not affected and some mope than

schools were not affected and some more than others. While it it is

schools were not affected and some something that the review will look

schools were not affected and some at, to understand why some

schools were not affected and some affected more. Regarding the change

in the way that English affected more. Regarding the change

assecsed, yes, affected more. Regarding the change

assessed, yes, there was more affected more. Regarding the change

emphasis on spelling and grammar. emphasis nn spelling and gramm`r. I

would expect in which teachers to teac`

would expect in which teachers to teach spelling and grammar. There is

no point in being creative if you teach spelling and grammar. There is

cannot spell. I make no apology for teach spelling and grammar. There is

the fact that spelling `nd grammar teach spelling and grammar. There is

have been given greater weighting teach spelling and grammar. There is

than before at teach spelling and grammar. There is

than befope at a teach spelling and grammar. There is

than before at a time when skills teach spelling and grammar. There is

have been teach spelling and grammar. There is

hate been downgraded teach spelling and grammar. There is

have been downgraded in England. It teach spelling and grammar. There is

is important for teach spelling and grammar. There is

is importand for c`ildren to teach spelling and grammar. There is

is important for children to express thamcelves propeply and

is important for children to express themselves properly and I would

expect teachers to produce children themselves properly and I would

who can do that. themselves properly and I would

who can do dhat. T`e question who can do that. The question I

asked was could you outline asked was could xou outline wh`t

steps your government had taken to asked was could xou outline wh`t

ensure that teachers and schools ensube th`t teachers and schools

were prepared for the new exam ensube th`t teachers and schools

were prepared fop the ndw exam and were prepared for the new exam and

yoq `ave lod been able to were prepared for the new exam and

you have not been able to give were prepared for the new exam and

yoq `ave lod been able to give me were prepared for the new exam and

one cingle action that were prepared for the new exam and

one single action that your govebnment

one single action that your government took. The Chief

govebnment dook. T`e Chhef Executive has warned that schools may not be

govebnment dook. T`e Chhef Executive readq for

govebnment dook. T`e Chhef Executive ready for the new GCSEs that

govebnment dook. T`e Chhef Executive plan to introduce in September next

plan to iltboduce an September next year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

onhy be year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

only be a political pick-up and year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

onhy be a political pick-up and a year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

bad headline for one year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

bad `eadline for one day, year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

bad headline for one day, for the year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

pupils that take those exams, those year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

results will stay year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

results will stax for the rest of year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

their lives. year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

thaib lives. You year. Whilst poor GCSE results might

their lives. You have already ruled oup

their lives. You have already ruled out delays into the introduction of

their lives. You have already ruled those exams so I will

those exals so I wall ark you specifically once again,

those exals so I wall ark you is your government is taking to

those exals so I wall ark you ensure that teachers and schools are

adequately prepared to teach ensure that teachers and schools are

new exam curriculums so ensure that teachers and schools are

children get the best possible children fed the best pnssible

chance of achievhng chance of achieving their potential?

What stepr chance of achieving their potential?

What steps are you taking? The exam chance of achieving their potential?

board has a role to play and chance of achieving their potential?

secondly, I have absolutely no qualms in saying that literacy and

nuiebous qualms in saying that literacy and

numerous the qualms in saying that literacy and

nuiebous the tests qualms in saying that literacy and

numerous the tests have been an enormously good thing

numerous the tests have been an enormously good thang for children

enormously good thing for children an`

enormously good thing for children and `arents

enormously good thing for children and parents and many parents have an

and parents and lany parents h`ve an understanding of how their children

and parents and lany parents h`ve an are doing in an objective way.

and parents and lany parents h`ve an tepmc of

and parents and lany parents h`ve an terms of English GCSE, it is

tepmc of Dnglish GCS , ht is a matter for the WJC to communicate

the changds matter for the WJC to communicate

tha changds in waiting to schools the changes in waiting to schools

bup the changes in waiting to schools

but in any event, I would expect in the changes in waiting to schools

this teachers to teach English, to be able to teach spelling

this teachers to teach English, to grammar and punctuation and I do not

grammar ald punctuation and I do not accept

grammar ald punctuation and I do not acce`t in anyway t`at

accept in anyway that somehow, because this is a greater part of

becaese thic is ` greater part of the English syllabus, that teachers

the English syllabus, that teabhers have been wrong footed. It

hate been wbong dooted. It is vrong that they teach -- it is right that

that they teach ,- it is right that they teach the basic skills. I

they teach dhe b`sac skhlls. I cannot for the life of me understand

tha cannot for the life of me understand

the attitude of the Lib Dem leader, tha attitude of the ib Dem leader,

that somehow it is surprisingly teachers of English should be

teaching spelling and grammar. Back teachers of English should be

to the quesdions teachers of English should be

to the questions on teachers of English should be

How is the Welsh Government teachers of English should be

stimelate in ecolomic teachers of English should be

stimulate in economic growth? In teachers of English should be

many ways. Jobs growth for youth and maly ways, Bobs frowth for youth and

unemployment and statistics show maly ways, Bobs frowth for youth and

that the unemployment rate is at 71% maly ways, Bobs frowth for youth and

and more jobs have been created an` more hobs hate been created

through foreign direct investment an` more hobs hate been created

and the and dhe improvemdnt in home-grown

entrepreneurs. I welcome the recent and dhe improvemdnt in home-grown

figures. I and dhe improvemdnt in home-grown

figubes. I commeld the and dhe improvemdnt in home-grown

Government for worcing in and dhe improvemdnt in home-grown

Government for working in this area and an

Government for working in this area and in reducing youth

Government for working in this area and an reducing youth unemploylent.

Government for working in this area Recent figures highlight that in my

araa Recent figures highlight that in my

area it has fallen behind in terms Recent figures highlight that in my

of growth and employment. If Recent figures highlight that in my

listen to the recent TUC report, the Recent figures highlight that in my

avarage worker Recent figures highlight that in my

average worker was Recent figures highlight that in my

avarage worker was ?1600 worse Recent figures highlight that in my

average worker was ?1600 worse off Recent figures highlight that in my

than when the Tory lead over and Recent figures highlight that in my

into power. There is a clear impact on t`e

into power. There is a clear impact on the economy so

into power. There is a clear impact on t`e economy so what

into power. There is a clear impact on the economy so what can the

government on the economy so what can the

gotebnment do on the economy so what can the

government do to stimulate economic growth in mq area

government do to stimulate economic growth in my area so we can feel the

government do to stimulate economic same benefit? The major employer

government do to stimulate economic Tata and I visited India and

investment was announced. We know that the investment was

investment was announced. We know that the hnfestmdnt was needed

that the investment was needed to turn

that the investment was needed to tupn that steelworcs

that the investment was needed to are many other countries

that the investment was needed to ara many nt`er countries who

that the investment was needed to are many other countries who would

have are many other countries who would

hate abandoned are many other countries who would

have abandoned the area but Tata invested the money that was needed

have abandoned the area but Tata to provide the

have abandoned the area but Tata ara ceen to

have abandoned the area but Tata are keen to see

have abandoned the area but Tata ara ceen to see that growing

have abandoned the area but Tata are keen to see that growing and to

are keen to see that growang and to see the impressive growth has been

are keen to see that growang and to in youth unemployment, laanly

are keen to see that growang and to through jobs growth as well as

are keen to see that growang and to thpoegh jobc growt` as well as in

through jobs growth as well as in schemes that I mentioned. And the

through jobs growth as well as in good record we have

through jobs growth as well as in good recopd we have with foreign

good record we have with foreign direct investment and exports.

direct invectment and exports. Wales massively outstrips the rest of the

direct invectment and exports. Wales UK. You'll aware of the

direct invectment and exports. Wales of while classed mine to biking

direct invectment and exports. Wales routes, so with this out-of-control

roqtes, sn gith thas out-of-control in South Wales, we can see forestry

roqtes, sn gith thas out-of-control roadc being damaged.

roqtes, sn gith thas out-of-control roads being damaged. The Welsh

roqtes, sn gith thas out-of-control Government can commit to funding of

spaedy Government can commit to funding of

speedy and complete plantang of spaedy and complete plantang of

forestry spaedy and complete plantang of

forectry hn spaedy and complete plantang of

forestry in areas where selling spaedy and complete plantang of

taken place. Is that a commitment spaedy and complete plantang of

yoq can spaedy and complete plantang of

you can give? It has been spaedy and complete plantang of

yoq can give? It has been the spaedy and complete plantang of

you can give? It has been the case for many years that we expected the

coimassiol for many years that we expected the

coimissiol do for many years that we expected the

commission to plant for many years that we expected the

coimissiol do plant more for many years that we expected the

commission to plant more mixed wood land than was the case before and

the ctrategq produced land than was the case before and

the strategy produced more than ten land than was the case before and

years ago say th`t land than was the case before and

years ago say that there was a need land than was the case before and

to ensure we did not just land than was the case before and

conifers. They land than was the case before and

colifers. T`ey ape land than was the case before and

conifers. They are important for land than was the case before and

colifers. T`ey ape important for the conifers. They are important for the

sawmalls conifers. They are important for the

sawmills but it is also important conifers. They are important for the

that woodland is seen as an conifers. They are important for the

that woodland is seen ar an area fOr conifers. They are important for the

recreation. The forestry was seen as recreatiol. The dorestry was sden as

in a position 20 years ago. I was in a position 20 years `go. I vas

able to open the in a position 20 years `go. I vas

abhe to open the new centre in a position 20 years `go. I vas

able to open the new centre and, again, 12 years ago,

able to open the new centre and, again, 12 years `go, and A havd seen

again, 12 years ago, and I have seen tha

again, 12 years ago, and I have seen the impact

again, 12 years ago, and I have seen tha impact dhat

again, 12 years ago, and I have seen the impact that mountain biking has

again, 12 years ago, and I have seen had. In areas where there has

ha`. In apeas whdre there has had to be felling of marchers, it is

ha`. In apeas whdre there has had to crucial to do so when it is safe

ha`. In apeas whdre there has had to that there is further planting and

ha`. In apeas whdre there has had to consideration given to new species

ha`. In apeas whdre there has had to as well. I ask two years ago what

ha`. In apeas whdre there has had to the government

ha`. In apeas whdre there has had to tha goverlment would

ha`. In apeas whdre there has had to the government would do to market

ha`. In apeas whdre there has had to Brownfield land around Port

ha`. In apeas whdre there has had to but the result of opening the

harbour away and you said you would but the result of opening the

encourage businesses to invest. Can you give an outline as to what you

encourage businesses to invest. Can have done? We

encourage businesses to invest. Can council and we have seen the

encourage businesses to invest. Can being opened for potential

development, including parts of the developmelt, including parts of the

docks. Before the road was opened, developmelt, including parts of the

it was diffacult to developmelt, including parts of the

it was difficult to attract anybody because

it was difficult to attract anybody becaese od

it was difficult to attract anybody because of access but

it was difficult to attract anybody becaese of accesr but the opening of

it was difficult to attract anybody the roads some months ago certainly

it was difficult to attract anybody will act as a stimulus to open up

that part of the Talbot area for development. What is a Welsh

developmelt. hat as a Velsh Government policy regarding a more

developmelt. hat as a Velsh frequent train service from

frequent train sdrvice from Aberystwyth? We are currently

looking at the possibility of ` Aberystwyth? We are currently

looking at the possibility of a more Aberystwyth? We are currently

frequent service, including every hoqr

frequent service, including every hour on the Cambrian line. First

Minister, a strong hour on the Cambrian line. First

Milicter, a strong camp`ign has been hour on the Cambrian line. First

running in mid-Wales to demonstrate the need for a more

running in mid-Wales to demonstrate service and that campaign has

running in mid-Wales to demonstrate presented evidence to the

running in mid-Wales to demonstrate and as you mention, a decision is

about to be made by and as you mention, a decision is

aboud to `e made by the governlent about to be made by the government

on t`at about to be made by the government

on that service. I will take this on t`at sdrfice. I will take this

opportunity to urge you to on t`at sdrfice. I will take this

oppobtunity to upge you to look opportunity to urge you to look at

tha opportunity to urge you to look at

the importance of a more frequent opportunity to urge you to look at

service to and from Aberystwyth, sepvice to and fpom berystwyth,

that is the only real road that services the area. There

that is the only real road that sepvaces the area. There as

that is the only real road that services the area. There is a need

for dhat to services the area. There is a need

for that to have more frequent for dhat to have more frequent

services and we do need some good services `nd we do need some gnod

news for the people of @berystwyth after the hard winter they have just

afpeb the hard winter theq havd just faced. Quite

afpeb the hard winter theq havd just faced. Quhte right. I

afpeb the hard winter theq havd just faced. Quite right. I know that the

faced. Quhte right. know that the Minister met the Liaison

Minister led the Laaison Committee covering this particular stretch of

cotebing thas paptacular stretch of the railway in November and she will

cotebing thas paptacular stretch of meet again tomorrow, to consider

cotebing thas paptacular stretch of recommendations that have been

cotebing thas paptacular stretch of recommend`taons that have been made

to her from the railway action to her from the paalway action

group. And I do hope there will be a conversation as to the way forward.

group. And I do hope there will be a Bearing in mind, the financial

posidion. Bearing in mind, the financial

position. Excuse my poor voice to`aq.

position. Excuse my poor voice today. There

position. Excuse my poor voice to`aq. There is

position. Excuse my poor voice today. There is no doubt that an

hourly service is vital and it must today. There is no doubt that an

happen. There are concerns from today. There is no doubt that an

farmers regarding moving livestock farmers regardinf movinf livestock

from either side of the line. This from eithdr side of the lane. This

you be prepared to have dascusrions with Network Rail or

wiph Network Rail or maje representations regarding creating

stock representations regarding creating

stocc proof representations regarding creating

stock proof holding areas close to representations regarding creating

the boundary to help speed up that representations regarding creating

movement? I commend the member for his voice lasting. He raises

movement? I commend the member for his foice lasting. He raises an

his voice lasting. He raises an impobtant

his voice lasting. He raises an important point and that is, if

thare are important point and that is, if

there are to be regular services, we hope that the time is right and the

hope that t`e time is rig`t and the money is there

hope that t`e time is rig`t and the moleq is there ol

hope that t`e time is rig`t and the Railway and consideration is

hope that t`e time is rig`t and the to the need to move livestock across

to the need to mnve livdstock `cross the line. Where

to the need to mnve livdstock `cross frequent services, that

to the need to mnve livdstock `cross freqeent rebvices, that does

frequent services, that does involve looking

frequent services, that does involve lookang at

frequent services, that does involve looking at ways of holding livestock

looking at gays nf holdhng livdstock back until the line is clear

looking at gays nf holdhng livdstock will ask the Minister to write to

Nepwork will ask the Minister to write to

Network R`il to will ask the Minister to write to

Network Rail to raise will ask the Minister to write to

Network R`il to paase those concerNs will ask the Minister to write to

to ensure there is a solution will ask the Minister to write to

future, if we will ask the Minister to write to

fupube, id ge see will ask the Minister to write to

future, if we see more frequent fupube, id ge see more frequent

services. What is the Welsh Govebnment

services. What is the Welsh Government doing to increase the use

services. What is the Welsh of public transport? We recognise

the importance of effective, affobdable

the importance of effective, affordable transport and as a result

the importance of effective, of our investment,

the importance of effective, capacity has seel

the importance of effective, capacity has seen an expansion. An

increase nf capacity has seen an expansion. An

increase of 15% in passenger capacity has seen an expansion. An

increase nf 15% hn passdnger ntmbers using train services from the start

of the franchise in 2003 using train services from the start

of t`e franchise in 2003 and we using train services from the start

of the franchise in 2003 and we have seen the reopening over the last

of the franchise in 2003 and we have decade or two of the Vale

of the franchise in 2003 and we have Glamorgan line. The South East

of the franchise in 2003 and we have Metro project is to encourage people

to use public transport. -- Wales. Metro project is to encourage people

The North East quadrant of Metro project is to encourage people

has been identified as having Metro project is to encourage people

access to Metro project is to encourage people

Connecting those kinds of communities should

Connecting those kinds of commenities should be

Connecting those kinds of communities should be the priority

Connecting those kinds of for this project?

Thase for this project?

These are all considerations which for this project?

can be given to the project. We wehcome

can be given to the project. We welcome the commhtment

can be given to the project. We welcome the commitment by

can be given to the project. We welcome the commhtment by the UK

can be given to the project. We government to pay for

goternment to pax for the electrification of these lines in

goternment to pax for the full. We look forward to that being

confarmed, full. We look forward to that being

confirmed. It is important that those communities east of Cardiff

which those communities east of Cardiff

whic` have been traditionally which have been traditionally

disconnected from the railway lines becaese

disconnected from the railway lines because of the way they were built

becaese od dhe way they were btilt in Victorian lines, are able to

becaese od dhe way they were btilt access regular, sustainable

access regular, rustain`ble public transport and to provide viable

access regular, rustain`ble public alternatives.

Firsd alternatives.

First Minister, access to reliable alternatives.

public transport is absolutely alternatives.

in my constituency, in part due to in my conrtatuenby, in part dud to

low car ownership rate. What in my conrtatuenby, in part dud to

guidance does the government give to guidance does thd government ghve to

bus operators and trained operatives bus operatobs and traindd operatives

-- train operators? In parts bus operatobs and traindd operatives

colstituencq, ond bus bus operatobs and traindd operatives

constituency, one bus stop bus operatobs and traindd operatives

cut, which has caused great inconvenience to many residents who

cut, which has caused great now face long walks to access public

now face long walks to `ccess public transport.

This is of transport.

important, transport.

impobtant, af transport.

important, if bus companies decide transport.

not to use stops, one is provided as close as possible to the

not to use stops, one is provided as What I can say is we don't issue

not to use stops, one is provided as guidance to bus operators, but each

not to use stops, one is provided as local authority is responsible for

determining whether local local authority is responsible for

transport facilities are adequate. Whare

transport facilities are adequate. Where decisions are made as to where

transport facilities are adequate. to locate bes

transport facilities are adequate. to locate bus stops, it is

transport facilities are adequate. imperative local authorities

transport facilities are adequate. impebativd local authoritaes look

transport facilities are adequate. imperative local authorities look at

transport facilities are adequate. road safety implications, but we do

provide road safety implications, but we do

provade a natural road safety implications, but we do

provide a natural support to bus road safety implications, but we do

users who can road safety implications, but we do

complaints over services and I might urge those concerned to contact that

complaints over services and I might Since becoming an Assembly Member, I

Since becomang al Assemblq Member, I have tackled the issue on how to

increase public transport use. And idaac

increase public transport use. And ideas how to integrate the

increase public transport use. And The cey

increase public transport use. And The key consideration is planning to

increase public transport use. And integrate t`e cap into

increase public transport use. And integrate the car into our network,

increase public transport use. And the car is an integral element like

increase public transport use. And it or not. With an eye to the

increase public transport use. And future, would

increase public transport use. And explore the feasibility of a Swansea

Parkgay explore the feasibility of a Swansea

Parkway in view of the explore the feasibility of a Swansea

electrification investment, to explore the feasibility of a Swansea

create a significant park and explore the feasibility of a Swansea

given the immense drift daily in explore the feasibility of a Swansea

mornings from West to mopnings drom West to E`st.

The difficulty is suggesting this on The difficulty is suggestang this on

the Swansea district line, bypassing Swancea

the Swansea district line, bypassing Swansea entirely. That would need to

the Swansea district line, bypassing be electrified for it to form part

the Swansea district line, bypassing of the intercity passenger service

in years to come. of the intercity passenger service

in years to come, At of the intercity passenger service

in years to come. At the moment it in years to come, At thd moment it

is used as a diversion line. So we is uced ar a divdrsion line. So we

would need to is uced ar a divdrsion line. So we

woqld need do see a comlitment is uced ar a divdrsion line. So we

would need to see a commitment from is uced ar a divdrsion line. So we

the EK is uced ar a divdrsion line. So we

the UK government to electrified the is uced ar a divdrsion line. So we

Swansea district line. is uced ar a divdrsion line. So we

Thanks you very much, is uced ar a divdrsion line. So we

Thancs you very luch, Presidinf Thanks you very much, Presiding

Officer. Would he agree, following Ofdicer. Voeld hd agree, following

the publication of the second part Ofdicer. Voeld hd agree, following

of t`e commassion on Ofdicer. Voeld hd agree, following

of the commission on the of t`e commissiol on thd

constitution ably led by Paul silk colsditution ably led bx Paul rilk

that the two major requirements that the two major requhrements in

creating an integrated transport craading `n integrated transport

system in Wales is that the franchise for the

system in Wales is that the Railway, should be devolved to

system in Wales is that the Wahes, and

system in Wales is that the Wales, and the regulation

system in Wales is that the Wahes, and dhe regulation of btses

Walec, and dhe regulation of btses should be a power held

Walec, and dhe regulation of btses should be a powep `eld by

Walec, and dhe regulation of btses should be a power held by the

Walec, and dhe regulation of btses Government? How soon can

Walec, and dhe regulation of btses negotiate these

Walec, and dhe regulation of btses negotiate t`ese issues

Walec, and dhe regulation of btses negotiate these issues rather than

us having to wait before negotiate these issues rather than

which Wales needs? negotiate these issues rather than

I agree with what the member has negotiate these issues rather than

said about that, with trains negotiate these issues rather than

buses, it would negotiate these issues rather than

busec, it would `e of bdnefit negotiate these issues rather than

buses, it would be of benefit to the negotiate these issues rather than

Assembly that we could manage and control the way the buses are

Assembly that we could manage and contbol the way the buses are run

contbol the way the busds are run here in Wales, and this would be

dependent on a bill being passed in Westminster aftep

dependent on a bill being passed in Westminster after the next election.

dependent on a bill being passed in As a government, we are supportive

As a govepnment, we are supportive of both.

Will he make a statement of both.

Welsh Government's response to of both.

recommendations made in the Coimassiol

recommendations made in the Commission on

recommendations made in the Coimissiol on Detolution

recommendations made in the Commission on Devolution in

recommendations made in the second report published last

recommendations made in the We welcome the publication of the

report We welcome the publication of the

repobt and We welcome the publication of the

report and hope it will form the report and `ope ht will form the

basis of a cross-party report and `ope ht will form the

basis of a cross,party consensus on the

basis of a cross,party consensus on tha future of

basis of a cross,party consensus on the future of devolution

basis of a cross,party consensus on tha future of detolution in Wales.

basis of a cross,party consensus on I am sure we look forward to the

basis of a cross,party consensus on full

basis of a cross,party consensus on fuhl debate

basis of a cross,party consensus on full debate to be held in this

basis of a cross,party consensus on chamber after Easter.

basis of a cross,party consensus on One particular aspect of

basis of a cross,party consensus on Ona `articular aspect of the

basis of a cross,party consensus on One particular aspect of the second

part of One particular aspect of the second

papt of report One particular aspect of the second

part of report of interest, part of report od anterest, relating

to cross-border health care and delivery. The report proposes that

current delivery. The report proposes that

cuprent cpocs-bopder delivery. The report proposes that

current cross-border arrangements delivery. The report proposes that

should be strengthened by developing delivery. The report proposes that

individual protocols between delivery. The report proposes that

indifidual protocols between each delivery. The report proposes that

local health board in Wales and delivery. The report proposes that

neighbouring NHS trusts on neighbouring HS trusts on the

English side. This is of particular neighbouring HS trusts on the

importance in certain neighbouring HS trusts on the

impobtance an ceptain locations neighbouring HS trusts on the

where there is interdependence on neighbouring HS trusts on the

hospital services. In this context, neighbouring HS trusts on the

given the ability neighbouring HS trusts on the

exists to put in place some of these protocols and enhance effective

delivery of health care, protocols and enhance effective

measures will your government un`ebtake

measures will your government undertake to be in this forward

ahead of Follett fuller.

We will of course study what the fuller.

commission has said in terms of coimission has s`id in terms of

strengthening coimission has s`id in terms of

arrangements coimission has s`id in terms of

arrangemeltc and improvhng services arrangements and improving services

for dhose arrangements and improving services

for those in arrangements and improving services

for dhose in Wales and England. arrangements and improving services

Since 2011 when this institution Since 2010 ghen thas inrtatution

first received primary lawmaking first receifed ppimary lawmaking

powers, we have seen three acts first receifed ppimary lawmaking

referred to the Supreme Court and I fear that will increase. Do you join

referred to the Supreme Court and I with me in welcoming the commission

referred to the Supreme Court and I recommendation to

referred to the Supreme Court and I reserve powers model another which

resebve pnwers mndel annt`er which would not add more

resebve pnwers mndel annt`er which woqld not add more power

resebve pnwers mndel annt`er which would not add more power but

resebve pnwers mndel annt`er which clarifying where we are at

resebve pnwers mndel annt`er which clarafyinf ghere we are at the

clarifying where we are at the moment? It would save money as

clarifying where we are at the Every timd

clarifying where we are at the Every time there is a referral

clarifying where we are at the the Supreme Court, there is a cost

to the Welsh and UK governments. The resebve

to the Welsh and UK governments. The reserve powers model will clarify

resebve pnwers mndel will clarify the

resebve pnwers mndel will clarify tha legisladive

resebve pnwers mndel will clarify the legislative boundaries of

resebve pnwers mndel will clarify Assembly and the UK government,

resebve pnwers mndel will clarify has to be

resebve pnwers mndel will clarify has do be in

resebve pnwers mndel will clarify has to be in the interest of

resebve pnwers mndel will clarify everyone. It is

resebve pnwers mndel will clarify evarqone. Id is pight to

resebve pnwers mndel will clarify everyone. It is right to say

resebve pnwers mndel will clarify schedule number

schedule lumber reven is presently drafted is vague to say the least in

drafted is fague to say t`e least in terms of confidence. There

drafted is fague to say t`e least in bills that have been referred

billc that `ave `een referred nr have gone through the process of

being referred. That is not the sign have gone through the process of

of a devolution settlement that have gone through the process of

clear, nor one which have gone through the process of

claab, nop one which is have gone through the process of

sustainable. The reserve powers have gone through the process of

model would deliver mo`el would deliter that clarity

Whitehall mo`el would deliter that clarity

Thank you. First Minister, on the Thank you. First Manister, on the

publication... Do you believe if publication... Do qou bdlaeve hf

people report for such a publication... Do qou bdlaeve hf

people repobt for such a change to people report for such a change to

happen, theq people report for such a change to

happen, they should be honest and people report for such a change to

admit this institution will have two people report for such a change to

grown up and settle on a figure of people report for such a change to

about people report for such a change to

aboud 80 people report for such a change to

about 80 in the recommendations. aboud 80 hn the pecommendationr. I

wouldn't agree that one is dependent on t`e

wouldn't agree that one is dependent on the other, there cannot be

wouldn't agree that one is dependent transfer of powers unless there is

wouldn't agree that one is dependent an increase in the number of members

in this chamber. This is a small chamber given the work it

chamber ghven thd work ht does. I am aware backbench members work

expremely aware backbench members work

extremely hard particularly on aware backbench members work

legislative committees we have. I am aware backbench members work

not ceen to aware backbench members work

not keen to conflate the idea more aware backbench members work

powers means more politicians. That woqld

powers means more politicians. That would be a very difficult idea for

tha `ublic, particularly, to support, given the fact they will

tha `ublic, particularly, to see this as an attempt to have more

see this `s an attempt to have more politicians. 80 members would be

see this `s an attempt to have more better for this

see this `s an attempt to have more better for dhis chamber. I am

see this `s an attempt to have more aware of the fact of

see this `s an attempt to have more there should be more politicians. I

have there should be more politicians. I

hate sympat`y there should be more politicians. I

have sympathy with what he has said there should be more politicians. I

but would not go so far as to say we cannot

but would not go so far as to say we calnot hate

but would not go so far as to say we cannot have an implementation

wiphout cannot have an implementation

without an increase in members, it cannot have an implementation

is possible to have one without cannot have an implementation

other. One recommendation in the second

other. report which was very clear was

other. one on devolution on conditions for

other. teachers, the only part of the

other. educational package not in the hands

edqcation`l pack`ge not in the hands of the last government. As the

edqcation`l pack`ge not in the hands cross-party has

crosc-party has pecommended th`t, would you change your

crosc-party has pecommended th`t, would you c`ange your vhew and worK

crosc-party has pecommended th`t, with us on the

crosc-party has pecommended th`t, with us ol dhe ddvolution of

crosc-party has pecommended th`t, teachers's pay and conditions. It is

crosc-party has pecommended th`t, not something we asked for.

Bup, not something we asked for.

But, if this is something not something we asked for.

But, if thic is romething wHich not something we asked for.

But, if this is something which will not something we asked for.

be devolved, then of course the not something we asked for.

argument is the funding. What we coqld

argument is the funding. What we could not support is the transfer of

the duties, without the transfer of adaqeate

the duties, without the transfer of adequate funding to go with those

the duties, without the transfer of new duties. We klow

the duties, without the transfer of new duties. We know what happened

the duties, without the transfer of with the council tax benefits,

the duties, without the transfer of with the coencil tax benefits, only

the duties, without the transfer of 90% of the

the duties, without the transfer of and we had to make up the

the duties, without the transfer of and ge had do maje up the 10%. And

the duties, without the transfer of so, this is something that would be

so( dhis hs somethang that would be strongly dependent on the financial

so( dhis hs somethang that would be settlement that accompanied

settlement dhat `ccompanied thd duty. But we know what Silk has

said. This is something that said. his as something t`at we

wanted to see as a party, we will said. his as something t`at we

see what happens. What I would see ghat ha`pens, What H would say

now is we would never wish to see a see ghat ha`pens, What H would say

situation where teachers are paid see ghat ha`pens, What H would say

less than teachers see ghat ha`pens, What H would say

less than teacheps in England. see ghat ha`pens, What H would say

less than teachers in England. I see ghat ha`pens, What H would say

believe it is important to see ghat ha`pens, What H would say

behieve it as important to state believe it is important to state

that now. That is not something that believe it is important to state

any government here could consider in feture.

any government here could consider Will he make a statement on Welsh

NHS financec? Will he make a statement on Welsh

The NHS will be in a Will he make a statement on Welsh

position to Will he make a statement on Welsh

posidion to meet demand and Will he make a statement on Welsh

position to meet demand and drive posidion to meet demand and drive up

standards of care. That is it for today, we will be

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