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The UK has voted to leave the European Union in the most | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
In the last few minutes David Cameron has announced | :00:10. | :00:13. | |
52% of people who cast a ballot made the momentous | :00:14. | :00:18. | |
A short time ago the Prime Minister gave an emotional address | :00:19. | :00:24. | |
I fought this campaign in the only way I know how, | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
which is to say directly and passionately what I think | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
I was absolutely clear about my belief that | :00:33. | :00:43. | |
Britain is stronger, safer and better off | :00:44. | :00:44. | |
And I made clear that the referendum was about this and this alone - | :00:45. | :00:52. | |
not the future of any single politician including myself. | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
But the British people have made a very clear decision | :00:59. | :01:00. | |
And as such I think the country requires fresh leadership to take | :01:01. | :01:06. | |
Leave campaigners are jubilant, saying it sends a stinging message | :01:07. | :01:13. | |
to the European Union's political elites. | :01:14. | :01:26. | |
The Remain campaign called the outcome a catastrophe, as it had | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
lower than expected support across swathes of the Midlands and the | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
North of England. The governor of the Bank of England says he will do | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
what is necessary to support financial markets and is making | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
available ?250 billion of financial support. | :01:43. | :01:45. | |
So David Cameron has said he's going as the British establishment | :01:46. | :01:47. | |
reels from its biggest slap down in modern history. | :01:48. | :01:49. | |
I'll be asking leading politicians what happens next. | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
And what now for Labour and Ukip too? | :01:54. | :01:55. | |
And what's the future for the UK outside the EU - | :01:56. | :01:57. | |
Here in Manchester we will talk to voters about the momentous | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
decision that some of them have made and the dramatic ramifications. | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
There really is quite a sombre mood in here now | :02:09. | :02:10. | |
after David Cameron's announcement, including from Leave | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
voters, so we will ask about people's hopes and fears | :02:14. | :02:15. | |
After more than 40 years, Britain has voted to end its membership | :02:16. | :02:45. | |
The vote itself was close but it was decisive - | :02:46. | :02:51. | |
52% chose to leave the EU and 48% wanted to stay. | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
Just over half an hour ago, the Prime Minister David Cameron | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
stepped out of Number Ten and said he would resign In an emotional | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
address, Mr Cameron said the will of the people must be respected. | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
He said fresh leadership was required with a new Prime | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
As the result became clear, the pound plummeted to levels not | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
seen since 1985 and this morning the financial markets | :03:16. | :03:17. | |
The final result shows that Leave won by more | :03:18. | :03:27. | |
than a million votes ? overall, 17.4 million people voted | :03:28. | :03:29. | |
That compares with the 16.1 million voters who backed Remain. | :03:30. | :03:37. | |
More than 72% of eligible voters took part. | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
In England more than 15 million people voted for the UK to leave | :03:42. | :03:44. | |
the European Union - 13.2 million people backed Remain. | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
In Scotland every voting area came out in favour of Remain ? 62% | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
of Scottish voters backed Remain with 38% backing a Leave vote. | :03:53. | :03:59. | |
In Wales, Leave won over 52% of the vote and secured the most | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
votes in all but five of the 22 counting areas. | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
In Northern Ireland - the only part of the UK that shares | :04:07. | :04:09. | |
a border with the European Union - voters backed Remain | :04:10. | :04:12. | |
with 55% of voters choosing to remain in the EU, | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
Well, that's how the results across the UK look. | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
We will, of course, be discussing in great detail what it all means | :04:23. | :04:25. | |
for you, for the United Kingdom and for the European Union. | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
But first our political correspondent Carole Walker reports | :04:30. | :04:31. | |
There was no hiding the emotion is David Cameron, with his wife | :04:32. | :04:46. | |
Samantha, emerged from Downing Street. He said the will of the | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
British people must be respected, but as he had fought and lost the | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
campaign to remain in the EU, the country should have a new Prime | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
Minister. I fought this campaign in the only way I know how, which is to | :05:00. | :05:07. | |
say directly and passionately what I think and feel, head, heart and | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
soul. I held nothing back. I was absolutely clear about my belief | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
that written is stronger, safer and better off inside the European | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
Union. -- that Britain is. I made clear that the renter was about this | :05:22. | :05:27. | |
and this alone, not the future of any single politician, including | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
myself. But the British people have made a very clear decision to take a | :05:32. | :05:37. | |
different path. As such, I think the country requires fresh leadership to | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
take it in this direction. I will do everything I can as Prime Minister | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
to steady the ship over the coming weeks and months, but I do not think | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
it would be right for me to try to be the captain that steals our | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
country to its next destination -- that steers our country. I have not | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
taken this decision lightly, but I believe it is in the national | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
interest to have a period of stability, and then the new | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
leadership required. With turmoil and uncertainty in the | :06:08. | :06:10. | |
financial markets, the governor of Bank of England said it was prepared | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
to take further action to support the British economy if necessary. | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
The best contribution of the Bank of England, the best contribution we | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
can make, is to continue to relentlessly pursue our | :06:25. | :06:25. | |
responsibility for monetary and financial stability stop these are | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
unchanged. We have taken all the necessary steps to prepare for | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
today's events. In the future, we will not hesitate to take any | :06:36. | :06:42. | |
additional measures required to meet our responsibilities as a United | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
Kingdom -- as the United Kingdom moves forward. From the moment the | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
results started coming in just after midnight, big wins for Leave. Across | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
the north-east, the Leave campaign did far better than predicted. And | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
they pushed Remain into a narrow victory in Newcastle. 65,000 404. A | :07:02. | :07:09. | |
much smaller wind than expect it. Votes cast in favour of Leave... In | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
Basildon in Essex, another big win for Leave. And a big turnout, 74%. | :07:16. | :07:24. | |
The result in Flintshire reflected the outcome across Wales, as voters | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
backs Brexit. But Scotland voted by a clear majority to stay in the EU. | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
Scotland's First Minister said it was clear that the people of | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
Scotland see their future as part of the European Union. The result will | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
bring fresh calls for a second referendum on Scottish independence. | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
Northern Ireland has also voted to remain in the EU. Sinn Fein has said | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
it intends the Pfizer case for a votes on whether Northern Ireland | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
should leave the United Kingdom. -- it intensifies the case. London was | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
the only region of England to support remaining a member of the | :08:00. | :08:03. | |
EU. That shortly before five, it was clear that the UK had taken the | :08:04. | :08:06. | |
historic decision to leave the European Union. At 4:40am, we can | :08:07. | :08:15. | |
say the decision taken in 1975 by this country to join the Common | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
Market has been reversed by this referendum to Leave the EU. | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
Ukip's leader Nigel Farage said he was thrilled that the country had | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
decided to break free and what he called a failing, dying European | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
Union. 70 million people have said we must leave the European Union. We | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
now need a Brexit Government, a Government that get on with the job, | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
a Government that begins the renegotiation of our trade | :08:45. | :08:46. | |
relationship, a Government that will be mindful that already many of the | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
German, any factor in unions have said, let's get on and do a deal. | :08:52. | :08:57. | |
The Labour leader said he hoped the negotiations with the European Union | :08:58. | :09:00. | |
would include efforts to protect British workers. | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
We now had to try to protect the working conditions that we have in | :09:04. | :09:09. | |
this country, and in the negotiations with the European | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
Union, try to obviously ensure there are trade opportunities for Britain | :09:14. | :09:17. | |
because, clearly, there are some very difficult days ahead, the value | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
of the pound has already fallen and there will therefore be job | :09:23. | :09:24. | |
consequences as a result of this decision. | :09:25. | :09:28. | |
A momentous day for Britain, for Europe, as the country embarks on a | :09:29. | :09:35. | |
new and uncertain future outside the EU, and under a different leader. | :09:36. | :09:37. | |
Carole Walker, BBC News, Westminster. | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
We will speak to Simon Jack from the City shortly, but first let's speak | :09:44. | :09:50. | |
to a system political editor Norman Smith, who joins me. How are you | :09:51. | :09:54. | |
voted, the scale of this is extraordinary? The Gulf this is the | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
biggest political decision in our lives, for anybody watching this it | :09:59. | :10:01. | |
is a momentous moment. It is one of the signpost in the story of our | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
islands which marks a different direction. We are, in effect, | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
closing one chap, 40 year membership of what was the Common Market, now | :10:12. | :10:19. | |
the European Union, and deciding to step in a different direction. We | :10:20. | :10:22. | |
don't know where that will lead. We know it means carving out runway, | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
not part of this much broader European club. They're all sorts of | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
implications in terms of how other countries see us, what relationships | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
are. They are utterly change. What are trading relationships with other | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
countries, is the position of the City, how do we get a hold on | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
migration and how do we feel about ourselves as a country? In the short | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
term, you can still go to the pub, Philip your car, the sun will rise, | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
nothing will change. -- fill up your car. But shortly we will have to get | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
into negotiations, which should be done and dusted, if things go as | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
they are meant to, in two years. We could be out by summer 2018. So much | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
uncertainty, what happens in the short term? Bilby discussions | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
between Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and the Prime Minister, I would | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
expect those to take place later today. Mr Cameron, to all intents | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
and purposes is a broken Prime Minister, he is just their... I | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
would not say a hostage but he is in the grip of the sceptics and has to | :11:28. | :11:30. | |
do what they want. Some say they want a Cabinet shuffle to bring in | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
the Brexiteers, then they will decide the course of the | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
negotiations, which will probably not begin until we get a new leader. | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
Mr Cameron has said he will be gone by the start of the party conference | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
at the beginning of October, which means that the leadership contest | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
begins now. Under the rules, you have to have about a month to allow | :11:52. | :11:54. | |
the members to make a final decision, the MPs narrow it down to | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
two contenders, Parliament goes into recess at the end of July. We are | :11:59. | :12:09. | |
pretty much at the end of June, so it begins now. I suppose Boris | :12:10. | :12:12. | |
Johnson must be in pole position to become our next Prime Minister. | :12:13. | :12:14. | |
Doormen, thank you. Just after the prime ministers Bob, the governor of | :12:15. | :12:16. | |
the Bank of England, Mark Carney, sought to reassure financial | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
markets. Speaking in the past half-hour, he said the bank was | :12:21. | :12:21. | |
well-prepared. A few months ago, the bank judged | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
that the risks around the referendum were the most significant near-term | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
domestic risk to To mitigate them, the bank has put | :12:29. | :12:30. | |
in place extensive contingency plans and these plans begin with ensuring | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
that the core of our financial system is well capitalised, | :12:35. | :12:37. | |
is liquid and is strong. This resilience is backed up | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
by the Bank of England's liquidity facilities in sterling and foreign | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
currencies and all of these resources will support orderly | :12:46. | :12:48. | |
market functioning in the face The bank will continue to consult | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
and cooperate with all relevant domestic and international | :12:53. | :12:59. | |
authorities to ensure that the UK financial system can absorb any | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
stresses and can do its job of concentrating | :13:05. | :13:06. | |
on serving the real economy. That economy will adjust | :13:07. | :13:13. | |
to new trading relationships that And it's these public | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
and private decisions which will determine the UK's | :13:18. | :13:24. | |
long-term economic prospects. The best contribution | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
of the Bank of England, the best contribution we can make | :13:29. | :13:31. | |
to this process is to continue to pursue relentlessly our | :13:32. | :13:37. | |
responsibilities for monetary We've taken all the necessary steps | :13:38. | :13:39. | |
to prepare for today's events and, in the future, we will not hesitate | :13:40. | :13:46. | |
to take any additional measures required to meet our | :13:47. | :13:49. | |
responsibilities as the Mark Carney seeking to reassure the | :13:50. | :13:51. | |
markets. As the result became | :13:52. | :14:09. | |
clear, the pound plunged. It's the biggest one day drop | :14:10. | :14:11. | |
in 30 years. It fell to levels | :14:12. | :14:13. | |
not seen since 1985. Simon Jack is monitoring the markets | :14:14. | :14:15. | |
in the City. Many of these bankers, traders, up | :14:16. | :14:22. | |
all night but they were not expecting this, where they? No, this | :14:23. | :14:28. | |
is really shock were first felt, the morning and evening of astonishing | :14:29. | :14:35. | |
news. Sterling plummeted, it had its biggest one-day fall ever since they | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
started floating currencies in 1972. It fell 10% at one stage. This is | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
the moment, we had the question, who has got it right, the polls or the | :14:46. | :14:51. | |
city and the bookies? The city was banking on Remain and got a nasty | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
shock when Sunderland came in. We had once Wandsworth bands, so who | :14:56. | :15:02. | |
was right, the city got it wrong and the polls were right. If you look of | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
a stock market, it opened at 8am and immediately fell by 500 points, the | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
knock-on effect. In both cases, it has found a level and is making | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
headway, just down three and one third percent. I think that message | :15:17. | :15:19. | |
from Mark Carney really did help. Some of the banks stocks were down. | :15:20. | :15:28. | |
I think that reassurance from Mark Carney saying don't worry, we've got | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
your bank, the Bank of England will help, really did reassure the | :15:33. | :15:35. | |
markets and we've seen them make some ground but on any scale, a | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
truly shocking morning and the chat around here from people like JP | :15:41. | :15:43. | |
Morgan saying they may have to move staff over to Europe because if they | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
need to serve European customers, outside the European Union, they may | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
have to do that, but obviously those negotiations will take weeks, | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
months, maybe years to conclude but that's the chatter around here on | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
this astonishing morning in the city, Sophie. Huge changes ahead. | :16:03. | :16:04. | |
Simon, thank you. Well, throughout the morning, | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
politicians have been For some it's a moment of great | :16:09. | :16:10. | |
excitement, of triumph. A result they've been | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
fighting for for decades. Let's go to College Green | :16:15. | :16:15. | |
here in Westminster and my Thanks, Sophie. We're joined by the | :16:16. | :16:32. | |
Secretary of State for Defence Michael Fallon who campaigned for | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
Remain. Given the Prime Minister last and we need somebody to | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
negotiate the terms of our divorce, was it not inevitable Prime Minister | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
had to resign? Yes, you could you needed somebody who'd been part of | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
the Leave Campaign for that I personally think the Prime Minister | :16:50. | :16:52. | |
would have been the best person at who's taken a position, it's an | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
honourable decision, given the result went against him. And now | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
we've got to get on and make this work. Your Brexit colleagues in the | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
Tory party, who derided Mr Kamran's deal for the re-negotiation, they | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
would never have accepted him negotiating our divorce terms. | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
Maybe. Most of them signed a letter say they would support him staying | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
on and I personally think it's a very sad moment for our country for | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
that one of the great reforming Prime Minister is stepping down. | :17:22. | :17:24. | |
There it is, the decision has been making now and we have to make it | :17:25. | :17:30. | |
work. If Boris Johnson now the man to be the next leader and the next | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
Prime Minister of our country? He's clearly one of the men, one of the | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
candidates. Is he not the frontrunner? The great strength of | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
the Tories is a great range of candidates will come forward and | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
it's too early to allocate the odds. What about Michael Fallon? I'm not | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
going to budding my hat into the ring but you what you can be sure of | :17:52. | :17:55. | |
is a number of candidates will come forward, they selected by the | :17:56. | :17:58. | |
Parliamentary party and being tired membership will have a vote and the | :17:59. | :18:02. | |
site. You are in for a leadership race this summer, more blue on blue. | :18:03. | :18:06. | |
We've done these things before, we've done amicably, and I think | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
there will be a huge determination now in the Conservative Party to | :18:11. | :18:14. | |
pull together again. We've got three months before a new Government is | :18:15. | :18:17. | |
formed, plenty to get on with, in delivering the manifesto which we | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
were elected last year. If Mr Cameron is on his way out, as he | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
told us this morning, can't George Osborne be far behind? The new | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
Cabinet will be for the new Prime Minister to decide. George Osborne | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
has been steering us away from an economic star Stephanie, has been | :18:36. | :18:37. | |
reducing the deficit year by year, and has been delivering economic | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
reform which meant the highest employment in history. Can we take | :18:42. | :18:49. | |
the punishment budget Mr Osborne threatened us with this summer if we | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
voted to Leave, will now not happen? You've seen the turmoil in the | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
market as a result of the decision, so I think we were right and the | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
Bank of England was right... The FTSE is above 6000. It's beginning | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
to recover but we've seen the turmoil, so some of those warnings | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
were justified but it wasn't George Osborne's punishment budget, he was | :19:12. | :19:15. | |
right, I think to warn there would be consequences and we've seen that | :19:16. | :19:19. | |
with sterling and the market this morning. What he said was if we | :19:20. | :19:24. | |
voted to Leave, it would be a budget to increase tax, cut spending, and | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
end the triple lock for pensions. Can we take it none of that will now | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
happen? I hope we will now see growth and investment decisions and | :19:35. | :19:37. | |
obviously a lot of investment was paused while people are waiting for | :19:38. | :19:40. | |
the result of the referendum. They will probably wait a bit longer now | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
to see the right result of the re-negotiation. Why are we not going | :19:45. | :19:52. | |
to have it? If he mentored, wisely not going to do it? I would suggest | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
to you, it was just meant to scare us. He warned there would be | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
consequences are they Leave vote and you seem on the market this morning. | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
You've seen what happened sterling. You can't judge the of Brexit on | :20:09. | :20:14. | |
four hours of the market after we voted to Leave full subunit that's | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
absurd. The markets tell you what's happening. We've seen turmoil in the | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
markets. Obviously, we are hoping we can get growth resumed, a lot of | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
decisions have been paused during the referendum and will have to work | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
hard now to encourage those who are going to invest in Britain from | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
outside, firms that want to invest here with access to the single | :20:36. | :20:38. | |
market, we have to work hard to persuade them that we can negotiate | :20:39. | :20:44. | |
satisfactory terms. For people like pensioners watching this morning, is | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
the trouble lock still on pension increases? It's there, guarantee we | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
offered, but it is dependent on the economy growing -- triple. That's | :20:54. | :21:00. | |
vital for all public services. Given that you are the defence Minister, | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
and we were threatened also with armed conflict in Europe, when is | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
that going to happen? I don't think David Cameron ever spoke about world | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
War three. I didn't say world War three. He talked about armed | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
conflict. Is it going to happen? It's a fact the democracies of | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
Europe working together since the war have prevented any armed | :21:25. | :21:26. | |
conflict. We saw brutally twice in the last century. I was just asking | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
if it's going to happen or not. It's not going to happen. So another | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
threat that's not going to happen? Our democracies work together. I | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
think staying in the EU would have helped because of the security of | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
the West but will have to work hard now and I will talk to our allies | :21:46. | :21:48. | |
later today in France, Germany and the USA, to remind them that we are | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
going to stay in Nato, play our part in the security of the West and | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
continue our contribution to the fight against Isis. So far, the | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
triple lock it withers and was not broken out. I can hand you back to | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
Sophie. Andrew, with Edna Prime Minister Erdogan morning, and the | :22:09. | :22:10. | |
Governor of the Bank of England but we have not yet heard from one of | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
the leading figures in the leave campaign, Boris Johnson. Is | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
expecting to speak for the first time shortly. The first time since | :22:20. | :22:24. | |
that decisive result. We will bring you that, of course, as soon see | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
comes out and start speaking but it is the people who have spoken, the | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
turnout was high. More than 72%, the highest turnout in a nationwide | :22:35. | :22:40. | |
ballot since 1992. Let's hear from the people. Victoria Derbyshire is | :22:41. | :22:47. | |
with a panel in Manchester. Yes, absorbing the news, voters have | :22:48. | :22:54. | |
voted. Also the dramatic news from David Cameron this morning, what are | :22:55. | :23:00. | |
you thinking right now? I'm a bit shocked, to be honest. I'm shocked I | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
voted to back a building, I didn't think it was going to matter, my | :23:07. | :23:09. | |
boat, because I thought we would Remain and the David Cameron | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
resignation has blown me away, to be honest. I'm quite worried. What | :23:14. | :23:25. | |
about yourself, you voted to Remain. I did but I would echo that also. | :23:26. | :23:31. | |
What are you worried about? I think the country needs a captain to steer | :23:32. | :23:34. | |
us through this and opener for David Cameron would've been the best | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
person to do that. He obviously has cut good contacts in Europe, he's | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
been in and out of Europe a lot, working with these people and now he | :23:43. | :23:45. | |
would've been been the best person to negotiate terms with them. You | :23:46. | :23:52. | |
voted to Leave, so when David Cameron announced his resignation, | :23:53. | :23:56. | |
you were pretty sombre and you are a Conservative voter. I'm upset about | :23:57. | :24:02. | |
the resignation. We are on opposite sides of the argument, but Mr | :24:03. | :24:05. | |
Cameron said we are not critters and he's been the first one in it. I | :24:06. | :24:08. | |
would have liked to have said he's going to fight for our position much | :24:09. | :24:14. | |
more than he's done. Joanne, you were undecided and eventually voted | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
to stay. How are you feeling now? It came right down to the death for me | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
yesterday. I was still undecided yesterday. I decided to go with | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
Remain. To be honest, I expected Leave to win. But I do decide to go | :24:30. | :24:37. | |
with Remain. We are now in a period of uncertainty and that will happen | :24:38. | :24:42. | |
for the next months. Are you worried? No, I'm a positive person | :24:43. | :24:46. | |
when it comes down to it so it's a case of making the best of what | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
we've got. More from voters throughout the morning of course. We | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
were expecting more Remain voters here today but they were too upset | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
to talk about it to be honest and one actually told us they felt they | :24:59. | :25:06. | |
were grieving. Andrew. Victoria, let's now give you a proper | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
breakdown of how the United Kingdom voted yesterday. Let's go to the BBC | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
newsroom and Christian Fraser. Sophie, thank you very much. | :25:16. | :25:24. | |
20 million people casting a vote yesterday. This turnout, 74% would | :25:25. | :25:34. | |
be good for Remain but you can see in actual fact, a 6-point lead for | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
Leave the highest turnout since 1992. Look at the huge swathes of | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
blue in rural England, Labour areas, so, Manchester, where we have just | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
been with Victoria, a maroon spot of yellow and then Liverpool and any | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
Leeds, Yorkshire, Harrogate, Newcastle, but only by the | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
slenderest of margins in Newcastle. London, we knew would go for Remain | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
and not all of the South and south-east, large parts of Kent in | :26:03. | :26:08. | |
blue and I think it was in those metropolitan areas where they | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
thought they were going to do well, Remain, Durham, Sheffield, Coventry | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
and Watford. They did not do too well at all. All of those | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
metropolitan areas going for Leave. Let's look at the highest turnout | :26:21. | :26:28. | |
for Leave in the country. Boston in Lincolnshire. Thorough, Great | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
Yarmouth, big Ukip supporting areas. Over 70%. The top five Remain areas. | :26:34. | :26:41. | |
Gibraltar, overwhelmingly 96% in favour of remain. And at the London | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
boroughs of Lambeth, Hackney, Haringey and foil in Northern | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
Ireland which will look at in the second but different picture in | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
Scotland. You will see the map is completely yellow. Here we go. 2.7 | :26:54. | :27:01. | |
million people casting a vote in Scotland. This is a much lower | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
turnout than the UK average. Voter fatigue? Possibly, they've had four | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
elections in under two years but overwhelmingly, 62% in favour of | :27:12. | :27:18. | |
Remain full is Edinburgh, 74% in Edinburgh, going for Remain. The | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
picture in Northern Ireland. Questions in Scotland about a second | :27:23. | :27:25. | |
independence vote and now questions about independence coming from | :27:26. | :27:28. | |
Martin McGuinness in Northern Ireland and this is why big | :27:29. | :27:34. | |
stretches of yellow close to the border. Belfast, four voting areas, | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
three of them went for Remain. And only these parts here in Northern | :27:40. | :27:46. | |
Ireland for Leave. 790,000 people in Northern Ireland voted, much lower | :27:47. | :27:50. | |
turnout on the UK average. Let me show you Wales. Dramatic picture | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
here for Labour and Jeremy Corbyn, a big disappointment for them. Only | :27:55. | :28:01. | |
five of 22 in Wales going for Remain for of Cardiff, yes, Swansea no, | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
Merthyr Tydfil, Newport and Caerphilly all going for Leave | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
pulled the turnout, 72%. 1.6 million people voting in Wales. The result, | :28:12. | :28:18. | |
the final result similar to England by six points, 52% for Leave and 47% | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
for Remain full that we are churning through those number and they are on | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
the website if you want to look now to see how your town and city voted | :28:26. | :28:26. | |
for them to go to the Thank you, Christian Fraser. That is | :28:27. | :28:39. | |
the breakdown of how the UK voted. The results will have huge | :28:40. | :28:44. | |
implications right across the UK. Let's get reaction from Scotland, | :28:45. | :28:48. | |
Wales and Northern Ireland and find out the consequences of the boat. | :28:49. | :28:53. | |
Gavin Esler is in Edinburgh, Sian Lloyd is in Cardiff and Chris | :28:54. | :28:58. | |
Buckler is in Belfast. Gavin, let's start with you? Welcome to the great | :28:59. | :29:03. | |
European capital. Edinburgh has been trading with Northern Europe for | :29:04. | :29:07. | |
centuries and sees it self as the Athens of the North. It is hardly | :29:08. | :29:11. | |
surprising that almost three quarters of voters in Edinburgh | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
voted in favour of remaining. 32 local authority areas in Scotland, | :29:17. | :29:20. | |
all 32, voted in favour of remaining, with some two thirds of | :29:21. | :29:23. | |
Scottish voters saying that they want to stay within the EU. That | :29:24. | :29:30. | |
raises the big question as always, the independence question. | :29:31. | :29:32. | |
Independence Day is a phrase that has been used by those who wish to | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
take Britain out of the European Union. Could this be the beginning | :29:37. | :29:40. | |
of Independence Day again for Scotland, the beginning of a new | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
independence process? Let's go first to Boris Johnson. | :29:45. | :29:58. | |
STUDIO: These are the scenes right now outside the home of Boris | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
a leading figure of the leave campaign. Huge crowds, as you can | :30:03. | :30:14. | |
see, ready to hear what he will have to say. Chris Mason is there for us, | :30:15. | :30:19. | |
I think we can talk to him now. Describe what is going on, Chris? | :30:20. | :30:32. | |
Well, not entirely clear what is going on at the moment. Police are | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
following a vehicle down the street. We had been hoping to hear from | :30:37. | :30:39. | |
Boris Johnson, it would have been his first statement of the morning | :30:40. | :30:46. | |
since this decision, this vote was announced. | :30:47. | :30:58. | |
OK, we'll come back to Boris Johnson as soon as we can get word from him. | :30:59. | :31:02. | |
Let's continue with Outlook around the UK. We will go now to Cardiff, | :31:03. | :31:11. | |
and Sian. -- to continue with our look around the UK. 17 of the 22 | :31:12. | :31:18. | |
local authorities here in Wales have backed Brexit, 52.5% of Welsh voters | :31:19. | :31:26. | |
are saying they want to go, 47.5% wanting to Remain. It is traditional | :31:27. | :31:32. | |
Labour heartlands, Valleys communities, Merthyr Tydfil, | :31:33. | :31:37. | |
Caerphilly etc, who has strongly backed a vote to leave. More | :31:38. | :31:44. | |
affluent Cardiff, where I am, the Vale of Glamorgan, Monmouthshire | :31:45. | :31:49. | |
wanted to Remain, as did Ceredigion and Gwinnett, the only other two | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
council areas in Wales who wanted to stay in the EU. The First Minister | :31:54. | :31:59. | |
of Wales, Carwyn Jones, has just held a press conference. He has been | :32:00. | :32:05. | |
talking about his concerns. Obviously he was backing a votes to | :32:06. | :32:11. | |
remain in the EU, as were all of the Welsh Labour AMs and MPs. He has | :32:12. | :32:15. | |
been talking about concerns over jobs and particularly the future of | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
the devolution settlement in Wales, and about the funding that the Welsh | :32:21. | :32:27. | |
people get from Westminster. He says that he believes there will have to | :32:28. | :32:31. | |
be renegotiation is over the Barnett formula. Remain had sought to | :32:32. | :32:36. | |
convince people in some of the poorest parts of Wales, working | :32:37. | :32:41. | |
class communities who had largely voted to Leave that Wales enjoyed a | :32:42. | :32:44. | |
lucrative relationship with the EU. Billions of pounds in struck drawl | :32:45. | :32:49. | |
funds being poured into some of those communities. -- in structural | :32:50. | :32:54. | |
funds. That did not convince the voters that you never to want to | :32:55. | :33:02. | |
stay. Sophie. Here in Northern Ireland there was a | :33:03. | :33:09. | |
majority vote to Remain, 66%. However, whenever you look at the | :33:10. | :33:12. | |
figures and start to break them down, it seems very clear that | :33:13. | :33:18. | |
Unionists were likely to vote for Leave got their vote out, | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
nationalists who were more likely to votes to stay, did not get their | :33:24. | :33:27. | |
vote out to the same extent. So this wider vote and the fact that the | :33:28. | :33:31. | |
margin of success by Remain was not so big is being treated as a success | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
by the Democratic Unionist Party, the largest party at Stormont, who | :33:37. | :33:39. | |
have been campaigning for a Leave vote. They say it is a good | :33:40. | :33:44. | |
decision, but there are also deliberate patience for Northern | :33:45. | :33:48. | |
Ireland as part of the UK. Of the border. -- there are also big | :33:49. | :33:52. | |
questions for Northern Ireland. This is the only part of the UK with a | :33:53. | :33:56. | |
land border with an EU country, it will become the point where the UK | :33:57. | :34:00. | |
meets the EU. There are questions about what will happen, suggestions | :34:01. | :34:05. | |
that checkpoints might have to be introduced or even checks between | :34:06. | :34:09. | |
Britain and Ireland. There are questions about the economy, huge | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
amounts of trade take place between Britain and Ireland, the Republic of | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
Ireland itself is concerned, the Irish Government is meeting this | :34:19. | :34:22. | |
morning, we will hear from Irish Prime Minister and Kenny Ellis | :34:23. | :34:27. | |
later. He had campaigned for a Stay vote a very vigorously, he was | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
alongside David Cameron on one occasion and travelled to Britain. | :34:32. | :34:36. | |
Then there is the question about the whole idea of a united Ireland. Sinn | :34:37. | :34:39. | |
Fein has said in the article this vote they would like to see a border | :34:40. | :34:45. | |
poll, to see whether people would see a united Ireland again. The SNP | :34:46. | :34:50. | |
may have been cattle with their words in Scotland, Sinn Fein are | :34:51. | :34:53. | |
saying very clearly that there should be a pole. There are lots of | :34:54. | :34:56. | |
questions to come for the United Kingdom. | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
Chris Buckler in Belfast, thank you. We saw chaotic scenes outside the | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
home of Boris Johnson in north London. We can go back there and try | :35:05. | :35:08. | |
to make sense a bit with Chris Mason. | :35:09. | :35:12. | |
Explain what has been happening? We have been outside Boris Johnson's | :35:13. | :35:15. | |
house in Islington North London the past three or four Alice, the | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
gathering media scrum but you saw in the footage as the former Mayor of | :35:22. | :35:25. | |
London left his home about five minutes or so ago. What is very | :35:26. | :35:29. | |
clear, you can hear and see it, is the extent to which the challenge | :35:30. | :35:35. | |
now will be uniting a country divided by this referendum. There | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
were perhaps around 100 photographers and reporters and | :35:41. | :35:43. | |
camera crews here, all of us wanted to shout questions in the direction | :35:44. | :35:48. | |
of Boris Johnson. We were simply drowned out by a sea of boos. People | :35:49. | :35:54. | |
have been commuting past Boris Johnson's house, there has been | :35:55. | :35:59. | |
plenty of shouting of fairly owned broadcaster for things in the | :36:00. | :36:02. | |
direction of the front door, behind which is the man who hopes to be the | :36:03. | :36:05. | |
next Prime Minister and could well be in the next couple of months. -- | :36:06. | :36:11. | |
fairly owned broadcaster for things. We suspect that Boris Johnson is | :36:12. | :36:14. | |
heading to the Vote Leave headquarters. At around about 11am, | :36:15. | :36:18. | |
although timings are fluid, we expect there will be a news | :36:19. | :36:25. | |
conference featuring him, Michael Gove and Gazelle Stuart, the most | :36:26. | :36:30. | |
prominent Labour MP on the Leave campaign. -- and Gisela Stuart. We | :36:31. | :36:37. | |
expect to hear him say something around then, rather than just being | :36:38. | :36:42. | |
shouted at. Around an hour, an hour and a half before we hear from Boris | :36:43. | :36:47. | |
Johnson. Let's go back to Andrew Neil at College Green. | :36:48. | :36:52. | |
I am joined by Chris Grayling, the Leader of the House of Commons, who | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
campaigned to leave, and by Simon Fraser, the foreign head of the | :36:56. | :36:59. | |
Foreign Office. Chris Grayling, when do we get that extra ?100 million a | :37:00. | :37:04. | |
year for the NHS that you promised? Gulp not until we have left. The | :37:05. | :37:10. | |
timetable is two years from the moment we trigger the formal | :37:11. | :37:14. | |
process, which will wait until a new Prime Minister is in place in the | :37:15. | :37:21. | |
autumn. So two years beyond that. Still at least 2020 before the extra | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
wattage million pounds a week? When would you like to trigger Article | :37:27. | :37:34. | |
50, to begin the formal process and set the clock ticking? We need to | :37:35. | :37:41. | |
have enough preparation to get the negotiating team ready. It is a two | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
year process which we need to complete before the next general | :37:46. | :37:49. | |
election, I will not put a limit on it. So we will have to wait quite a | :37:50. | :37:54. | |
while to see extra money for the NHS. Simon Fraser, how will the | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
Foreign Office cope? It is congenitally pro-EU, now it has to | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
play major part in our exit? The Foreign Office will do its job, as | :38:05. | :38:08. | |
always. The first thing it will have to do is launch a pretty big | :38:09. | :38:11. | |
campaign around the world to explain diplomatically what we have done, | :38:12. | :38:15. | |
why and what will happen next. I am sure and disease around the world | :38:16. | :38:19. | |
are doing about task already, they are looking further ahead, the | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
Foreign Office and the rest of Whitehall, they will have to think | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
carefully about a very major set of tasks lying ahead. Is it realistic | :38:27. | :38:32. | |
for the British to think they can have quite a considered period of | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
informal talks with the EU on our divorce terms before triggering | :38:38. | :38:44. | |
Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty? We had to bear in mind the decision we | :38:45. | :38:48. | |
have made affects not just us but the rest of Europe as well. They | :38:49. | :38:55. | |
have there political and economic interests to deal with. I suspect | :38:56. | :38:59. | |
that sometime they allow as -- suspect they will allow some time to | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
sort things out, but that will not be indefinite and they will have | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
their own fish to fry when it comes to the time. From the Prime | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
Minister's resignation remarks, I feel he does not expect to trigger | :39:12. | :39:15. | |
Article 50 and I will not be a new Prime Minister until the end of | :39:16. | :39:19. | |
September, beginning of October, that is several months. Couldn't go | :39:20. | :39:22. | |
beyond that, to the beginning of next year or beyond before we press | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
the exit button? Let's see what happens at the pin council next | :39:28. | :39:31. | |
week. The President of the Council, Donald Tusk, says he wants to manage | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
things calmly. My personal view is that there is not an limited period. | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
It would be reasonable for this not to happen until the autumn. I think | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
delaying it much beyond that would raise questions not only in Europe | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
but among the voters in this country about when we will implement their | :39:49. | :39:52. | |
decision. User ambassadors will have to explain Britain's position around | :39:53. | :39:57. | |
the world, I have never met an ambassador, existing Ogbonna, in | :39:58. | :40:01. | |
favour of leaving, so that hearts will not be in it -- existing or | :40:02. | :40:07. | |
former. I personally believe that, from an international perspective, | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
it would have been better to Remain, but the decision has been made in a | :40:12. | :40:16. | |
different direction. Civil servants are highly professional people who | :40:17. | :40:19. | |
will make the best case and do their job to the best of their ability. A | :40:20. | :40:23. | |
question I asked Michael Fallon, can we rule out George Osborne's | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
punishment Budget, which he threatened us with if he left? The | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
reason I do not think that will happen is that when we looked at the | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
small rent of these two fiscal studies, it was third party research | :40:38. | :40:40. | |
that they were repairing two. This macro Abbey small print of these two | :40:41. | :40:46. | |
fiscal studies. It is assumed that a fall in the value of the pound led | :40:47. | :40:50. | |
to a fall in exports, which is illogical. I don't think the problem | :40:51. | :40:56. | |
exists. We have heard from the head of the German CBI two days ago, I | :40:57. | :41:00. | |
feel that the rest of the European Union will want to carry on trading | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
on a normal basis, we buy more from them than they do from us. Rather | :41:06. | :41:11. | |
than reading the small print of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, | :41:12. | :41:13. | |
another reason why there will not be a punishment Budget is that Mr | :41:14. | :41:16. | |
Osborne will not be alone -- around to deliver it? Gulp that will | :41:17. | :41:21. | |
clearly be a new Cabinet from September or October, the girl by | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
Douglas George will still be Chancellor or doing something | :41:27. | :41:32. | |
different. There is no need for an emergency Budget next Monday. If Mr | :41:33. | :41:39. | |
Cameron felt it necessary to resign, why wouldn't George Osborne? That is | :41:40. | :41:43. | |
a matter for George. He has been a good Chancellor, he has helped turn | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
the economy around. If I saw Mr Osborne I would ask him, but I have | :41:49. | :41:54. | |
you. I think it will be a matter for the new Prime Minister. I don't | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
think it would be helpful now if the Chancellor of the Exchequer | :41:59. | :42:01. | |
resigned. We need stability and to calm the markets. There will be a | :42:02. | :42:05. | |
change in the autumn, let's wait for it to happen. Foodie you back as the | :42:06. | :42:11. | |
next leader? No idea. -- who do you back? Or is Johnson? I wish David | :42:12. | :42:17. | |
Cameron had stayed, I think it was right for him. I had taken -- I was | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
taken by surprise. I will give serious thought as to what happens | :42:23. | :42:27. | |
next. Who would you like to see, other than Boris Johnson? I am not | :42:28. | :42:31. | |
setting my name against anyone at the moment, I will think it through | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
carefully. Would you throw your hat into the ring? I have not decided | :42:37. | :42:40. | |
who I will back. It is a question of who I am going to back. And not run? | :42:41. | :42:46. | |
It is too early, David Cameron has just resigned, I have not given any | :42:47. | :42:50. | |
thought as to who I think would be right to take this to this. | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
website. Supposing we have a long in formal parent and then reset the | :42:56. | :43:01. | |
clock going, and we need 28 to stop the clock, can we do it in two | :43:02. | :43:06. | |
years? The real question is is not just the article 15 negotiation but | :43:07. | :43:09. | |
another one about the terms of our future relationship with Europe and | :43:10. | :43:12. | |
I don't think that would be easy. We will not get a deal which gives of | :43:13. | :43:16. | |
the same level of access to the European market as we have now. | :43:17. | :43:19. | |
Another negotiation to be had with other countries around the world | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
about trade there. On top of that, we have to go through the whole body | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
of our law and regulation and the new Government will want to decide | :43:28. | :43:29. | |
what it wants to keep, what it wants to change and that is a massive set | :43:30. | :43:34. | |
of tasks which will take very long time. It will consume a lot of | :43:35. | :43:38. | |
energies of Whitehall and Westminster. Sounds like the Foreign | :43:39. | :43:42. | |
Office will be busy. Back to in Downing Street. | :43:43. | :43:47. | |
Andrew, thank you. Huge changes and consequences ahead for the UK but | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
what about the rest of the European Union? The rest of the 27 member | :43:52. | :43:58. | |
states? Will it mean for them? We are not expect to hear from Angela | :43:59. | :44:02. | |
Merkel into later this morning but a sad day for Europe, a sad day for | :44:03. | :44:06. | |
the UK, that was the reaction early this morning from Germany's Foreign | :44:07. | :44:10. | |
Minister, the European Parliament held an emergency meeting this | :44:11. | :44:14. | |
morning in response to the referendum results. Matthew joins us | :44:15. | :44:21. | |
now from Brussels. Sophie, good morning, the shock waves | :44:22. | :44:24. | |
reverberating around this place. This is the catastrophe they had | :44:25. | :44:28. | |
feared. It is very interesting listening to David Cameron talking | :44:29. | :44:31. | |
about negotiations in Downing Street when he spoke because in the last | :44:32. | :44:34. | |
little while the leader of the largest group in the European | :44:35. | :44:39. | |
Parliament called for an immediate negotiation on UK exit, the EU can't | :44:40. | :44:43. | |
wait for a protracted Conservative leadership contest. That's what he | :44:44. | :44:50. | |
just said, leave means leave. Our Europe editor is with mean now. Give | :44:51. | :44:57. | |
me a sense of this moment, the conversations you've had. People are | :44:58. | :45:02. | |
absolutely aghast. They knew there was a possibility of Britain voting | :45:03. | :45:06. | |
to leave the EU, but I think in the heart of hearts, definitely the | :45:07. | :45:09. | |
leaders across the EU were hoping that Britain would vote to Remain. | :45:10. | :45:16. | |
You're looking at an EU which was a week already before the vote. The | :45:17. | :45:20. | |
migrant crisis, fears of what is perceived as an aggressive Russia, | :45:21. | :45:25. | |
but Brexit could be the biggest body blow of all, because in the UK, the | :45:26. | :45:29. | |
blood now looking at the financial markets, what does this mean for the | :45:30. | :45:33. | |
pound? Families across Europe are worried about the future of the | :45:34. | :45:38. | |
euro. It was recovering nervously but what now? Also what is the | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
future of the EU? Eurosceptic leaders across the continent, I have | :45:43. | :45:48. | |
never seen the mood so Eurosceptic, those leaders in France, Italy, the | :45:49. | :45:52. | |
Netherlands, where queueing up to crow about Brexit and call for a | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
vote in their own country. Prime ministers across Europe are very, | :45:57. | :46:01. | |
very aware of that, nervously looking over their shoulders at | :46:02. | :46:04. | |
these Eurosceptic leaders but here the mood among the leaders, the | :46:05. | :46:09. | |
bureaucrats in Brussels, please stay calm, we don't know where we are | :46:10. | :46:13. | |
going to go. We heard from Martin Schulz, but President this morning. | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
I don't think this will lead to a break above the European Union. If | :46:19. | :46:24. | |
we take serious, one of the messages, an enormous gap, social | :46:25. | :46:33. | |
gap between countries, and within society. To fill the gap with more | :46:34. | :46:38. | |
social justice, and fight for a better distribution of wealth is, | :46:39. | :46:43. | |
for me, one of the messages, especially for those who voted for | :46:44. | :46:49. | |
Leave because they feel uncomfortable with their social | :46:50. | :46:53. | |
circumstances. That was the immediate reaction. How is it likely | :46:54. | :46:58. | |
to work now in terms of negotiations, the thoughts of trade | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
deals, what can Britain expect because there was a fear they would | :47:04. | :47:07. | |
be punished to stop a domino effect happening to Europe? There is | :47:08. | :47:12. | |
definitely a hardening of hearts already this morning. There has been | :47:13. | :47:14. | |
talk of how the British Commissioner from the building might like to | :47:15. | :47:20. | |
leave his job. Plenty of British civil servants Walkman here this | :47:21. | :47:23. | |
morning worried about what their future might be. But I think it's | :47:24. | :47:29. | |
less about punishing the UK per se. The game, as bespoke, a fear of | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
contagion, people across Europe asking for their own referenda, a | :47:35. | :47:37. | |
feeling of Brussels and amongst European leaders that a deal with | :47:38. | :47:42. | |
the UK, even though it is an attractive trade partner, can't be | :47:43. | :47:46. | |
easy, can't be generous, because others have to be put off asking to | :47:47. | :47:52. | |
leave the EU as well. You will now have to hand over to the UK, who has | :47:53. | :47:57. | |
to give formal notice, formally say it wants to leave the European Union | :47:58. | :48:01. | |
but already people are plotting and planning, discussing where it would | :48:02. | :48:04. | |
go, how it would respond. Thank you very much. Sophie, I suppose like | :48:05. | :48:11. | |
any divorce, it is messy, recriminations and anger before you | :48:12. | :48:15. | |
ever get to the practicalities of sorting things out. Back to you. | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
Matthew, thank you. What has been messy this morning is what's been | :48:21. | :48:26. | |
going on in the city. Simon Jack is there. He is monitoring the markets. | :48:27. | :48:30. | |
In the aftermath of this result, the pound literally fell off a cliff, | :48:31. | :48:35. | |
more than 120 billion wiped off the value of the markets. What is the | :48:36. | :48:42. | |
situation now? Sophie, you're right, the first frontier of this shock | :48:43. | :48:47. | |
wave within the financial markets, the pound had its deepest fall ever | :48:48. | :48:52. | |
in the 72 years, since 1972, since floating freely. At midnight last | :48:53. | :48:57. | |
night, the city thought it was right, backing Remain, but got a | :48:58. | :49:02. | |
nasty shock when the Sunderland results came through and in the | :49:03. | :49:05. | |
pound continued to fall as the results came in. 10% at one point, | :49:06. | :49:11. | |
more than double the amount the pound fell on Black Wednesday back | :49:12. | :49:16. | |
in 1992. Mark Carney reassured financial markets and that the banks | :49:17. | :49:20. | |
will be fine, we are looking after everyone and so there was some | :49:21. | :49:24. | |
comfort there. Then the question now, in a way, moving to the rest of | :49:25. | :49:29. | |
the economy, how is this going to hit businesses, jobs, people | :49:30. | :49:36. | |
importing, getting more expensive, and talk about MSc divorce, I have | :49:37. | :49:45. | |
someone here caught Paul marriage which runs a fund looking at smaller | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
companies. You own a small business what's going through your mind? The | :49:51. | :49:54. | |
thing you're looking at is continuity here. We are investing in | :49:55. | :49:59. | |
tomorrow. Anyone who runs a small business is hoping to be a big | :50:00. | :50:02. | |
company tomorrow, a big company of tomorrow today, if you know what I | :50:03. | :50:06. | |
mean, so it's a good opportunity for them. Weak sterling is good for | :50:07. | :50:10. | |
exporters. We are generally quite a good exporting economy. A weak | :50:11. | :50:16. | |
consumer will have a negative impact on consumer related companies like | :50:17. | :50:21. | |
imports, as well, so it's a two-way pool overall. I think for a lot of | :50:22. | :50:24. | |
companies, they will say business as normal, the Sun came up this | :50:25. | :50:29. | |
morning, and will crack on. We are a dynamic economy. A lot of | :50:30. | :50:32. | |
entrepreneurial people know we are pretty good of the country. So keep | :50:33. | :50:37. | |
calm and carry on as your message. Let's look at the European stock | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
markets in Brussels. A very interesting story because the other | :50:43. | :50:45. | |
stock markets around Europe, the French market down 7.5, Spanish, | :50:46. | :50:52. | |
down ten, Italian, down much more than the UK stock market, which | :50:53. | :50:56. | |
shows this is a big impact on the economic fortunes of the European | :50:57. | :51:01. | |
Union. I suppose this is a conversation we are having in this | :51:02. | :51:04. | |
country, potentially coming to these countries soon? Yes, these countries | :51:05. | :51:10. | |
will be looking at what their population think of result and they | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
will think there will be more instability in coming months, hence | :51:15. | :51:18. | |
the big falls in Europe. Mutually non-beneficial is the answer we are | :51:19. | :51:21. | |
getting from the city. When it comes to jobs, a lot of people in the city | :51:22. | :51:26. | |
are saying some banks are saying they may need to move some of their | :51:27. | :51:30. | |
staff to Europe to serve European clients, it depends how the | :51:31. | :51:34. | |
negotiations go, we have months and years ahead but in the city, some | :51:35. | :51:39. | |
jobs currently in London may find their way to Europe. As you can see, | :51:40. | :51:44. | |
although the UK market has recovered a little bit, the stock market in | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
Europe is a sea of red and red means down. Simon, inner-city with the | :51:50. | :51:56. | |
latest, thank you. In America, still very early in the morning, no | :51:57. | :52:00. | |
reaction from America itself, but Donald Trump, by chance, is in the | :52:01. | :52:07. | |
UK today. He survived in Ayrshire at his golf course. He gave his | :52:08. | :52:10. | |
reaction to the verdict a short time ago. I said this was going to happen | :52:11. | :52:18. | |
and I think it's a great thing. We will see but I think it's going to | :52:19. | :52:21. | |
be a great thing. Any words for David Cameron? Basically, they took | :52:22. | :52:26. | |
back the country. It's a great thing. I great thing, an amazing | :52:27. | :52:32. | |
vote, very historic, that's what Donald Trump said this morning. | :52:33. | :52:36. | |
Let's get some reaction from the public from Victoria Derbyshire in | :52:37. | :52:37. | |
Manchester. Right, Britain is out, some voted to | :52:38. | :52:50. | |
Leave. What word would you use to describe how you're feeling right | :52:51. | :52:57. | |
now? Optimistic. Disappointed. I voted Leave and I'm optimistic | :52:58. | :53:03. | |
because now we can negotiate our own free-trade agreements with the rest | :53:04. | :53:08. | |
of the world but mainly, working hard and being a pay rise, not a big | :53:09. | :53:15. | |
thing. I'm quite worried, Victoria. I voted Remain because I thought | :53:16. | :53:22. | |
would would be better for jobs and the economy. The campaign to been so | :53:23. | :53:29. | |
divisive. I think we need to unite, so we have voted... How easy will it | :53:30. | :53:34. | |
be to unite, do you think? It'll take a long time. There have been | :53:35. | :53:39. | |
things said in this campaign, horrible said about Muslims, | :53:40. | :53:44. | |
immigration, and you expect people to forget that overnight? We can | :53:45. | :53:49. | |
accept the result, we are leaving... I voted to Remain. I have always | :53:50. | :53:57. | |
been Leave so not devastated. I work with young Asian Muslims and they | :53:58. | :54:03. | |
want to leave because they think immigration will be opened up to | :54:04. | :54:07. | |
South Asia. You all agree the country is divided. What is the way | :54:08. | :54:10. | |
we are going to bring people together if you think that's the | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
right thing to do? I thought David Cameron would remain for some time. | :54:15. | :54:20. | |
And implement the changes. It needs to happen. I'm disappointed that he | :54:21. | :54:25. | |
has announced he has resigned. So he's not the man to do it. Who is? | :54:26. | :54:32. | |
We are all able to work together. I don't think we are divided. We have | :54:33. | :54:39. | |
had elections before. We need to get on and get the job done now and work | :54:40. | :54:43. | |
together and move forward. It was always on a knife edge and could | :54:44. | :54:47. | |
have gone either way. Those people who voted Remain need to accept. I | :54:48. | :54:53. | |
voted Remain, I accepted, I want to the country moving forward and the | :54:54. | :54:55. | |
one thing the British public do not want is the media, newspapers using | :54:56. | :55:00. | |
words like catastrophe, disaster. We need to be moving forward, muster | :55:01. | :55:05. | |
the great reddish stiff upper lip and get on with it now. That's what | :55:06. | :55:09. | |
we need to do. I want to bring in Susanna. Suzanne, you voted? Leave. | :55:10. | :55:19. | |
I feel excited about the decision and I'm quite surprised it went that | :55:20. | :55:25. | |
way. That Adam said earlier. He voted Leave didn't expect it. That | :55:26. | :55:32. | |
was a surprise. I'm shocked David Cameron is going to step down. I'm | :55:33. | :55:36. | |
not the biggest Conservative supporter but he's done well the | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
economy. As long as some stability, the important thing at the moment is | :55:42. | :55:46. | |
they really bring in the people who wanted to Remain. When they start | :55:47. | :55:49. | |
talking about the leaving process itself. Who do we think is the right | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
person, the right person to lead Britain out of the EU? Theresa May. | :55:55. | :56:02. | |
A Labour Government? There needs to be a cross-party plan put together | :56:03. | :56:05. | |
from both sides, far more people from the industrial world to come in | :56:06. | :56:09. | |
and assist the Government. How realistic is that? A cross-party | :56:10. | :56:20. | |
group of politicians? We need to come together and join together and | :56:21. | :56:23. | |
work together. So Great Britain can be greater still, because this is a | :56:24. | :56:29. | |
tumultuous time in the economy. I'm looking for names. Theresa May have | :56:30. | :56:35. | |
conducted herself very well. She sided with a Government which any | :56:36. | :56:38. | |
good frontbencher will do however I think she is sensible, she could do | :56:39. | :56:45. | |
the job. Whoever comes in, the problem is, we get into a period | :56:46. | :56:50. | |
when no decisions are made because everybody will sit on the fence | :56:51. | :56:53. | |
until there was a change in the Conservative Government or whether | :56:54. | :56:56. | |
that is a snap election, I don't know. What person would put | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
themselves in a win-win position and that's Boris Johnson. He will do it. | :57:02. | :57:09. | |
I hope George Osborne will do it, he has got knowledge of the economy, | :57:10. | :57:16. | |
that is what I think. I think Theresa May has put herself in a | :57:17. | :57:20. | |
perfect session, she stayed relatively out of the debate and | :57:21. | :57:23. | |
rose about it to take a statesman style approach. She is a Remainer, | :57:24. | :57:29. | |
you think she would be the right person to lead Britain out of the | :57:30. | :57:34. | |
EU? She would be good to lead a coalition of groups. You need to | :57:35. | :57:38. | |
bring in the people on the Leave side and the Remain side, you need a | :57:39. | :57:43. | |
combination of them in order to make those decisions. That is how you | :57:44. | :57:47. | |
bring the people who wanted to Remain into the process. I think it | :57:48. | :57:53. | |
has to be somebody who passionately believes in Brexit, that is what the | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
country has voted for. Somebody you will drive us forward. Plenty more | :57:58. | :58:02. | |
time later, but thank you for the moment. More from Manchester | :58:03. | :58:03. | |
throughout the morning. The UK has voted to leave | :58:04. | :58:06. | |
the European Union in the most The Prime Minister, David Cameron, | :58:07. | :58:09. | |
has announced he will 52% of people who cast | :58:10. | :58:13. | |
a ballot made the momentous The Prime Minister gave an emotional | :58:14. | :58:19. | |
address explaining his decision. I fought this campaign | :58:20. | :58:28. | |
in the only way I know how, which is to say directly | :58:29. | :58:31. | |
and passionately what I think I was absolutely clear | :58:32. | :58:38. | |
about my belief that Britain is stronger, | :58:39. | :58:43. | |
safer and better off And I made clear that the referendum | :58:44. | :58:45. | |
was about this and this alone - not the future of any single | :58:46. | :58:54. | |
politician including myself. But the British people have made | :58:55. | :58:58. | |
a very clear decision And as such I think the country | :58:59. | :59:01. | |
requires fresh leadership to take The man who could replace him - | :59:02. | :59:06. | |
the victorious Vote Leave campaigner Boris Johnson - | :59:07. | :59:16. | |
battles though a scrum of supporters and opponents as he leaves his | :59:17. | :59:18. | |
house without comment. We expect to hear from him in the | :59:19. | :59:28. | |
next hour. Leave campaigners are jubilant, | :59:29. | :59:31. | |
saying it sends a stinging message to the European Union's political | :59:32. | :59:33. | |
elites. The governor of the Bank of England | :59:34. | :59:41. | |
says he will do what is necessary to support financial markets | :59:42. | :59:46. | |
and is making available ?250 billion Tory leadership speculation is | :59:47. | :59:52. | |
mounting in Westminster as the David Cameron's announcement that he is | :59:53. | :59:57. | |
going, but the replica versions have rocked the British establishment. I | :59:58. | :00:00. | |
am talking to leading politicians and commentators about what happens | :00:01. | :00:05. | |
next, both on the UK political scene and the future of the UK outside the | :00:06. | :00:09. | |
EU, and the EU itself. In Manchester we will talk to voters | :00:10. | :00:13. | |
about the momentous decision that some of them have made, and the | :00:14. | :00:18. | |
dramatic ramifications. There is quite a sombre mood in here now as | :00:19. | :00:23. | |
to David Cameron's announcement, occluding from Leave voters. So we | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
will ask about hopes and fears for the United Kingdom now. | :00:28. | :00:41. | |
After more than 40 years, Britain has voted to end its membership | :00:42. | :00:47. | |
The vote itself was close but it was decisive - | :00:48. | :00:53. | |
52% chose to leave the EU and 48% wanted to stay. | :00:54. | :01:02. | |
David Cameron has announced that he would step down as a minister. He | :01:03. | :01:09. | |
argued strongly for the Remain campaign, he said the will of the | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
country must be respected and fresh leadership was required, with the | :01:15. | :01:15. | |
new Prime Minister by October. As the result became clear, | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
the pound plummeted to levels not seen since 1985 and this morning | :01:20. | :01:21. | |
more than ?120 billion was wiped off the value of the financial markets | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
opened sharply down. The final result shows | :01:25. | :01:27. | |
that Leave won by more than a million votes ? overall, | :01:28. | :01:29. | |
17.4 million people voted That compares with the 16.1 million | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
voters who backed Remain. More than 72% of eligible | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
voters took part. In England more than 15 million | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
people voted for the UK to leave the European Union - | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
13.2 million people backed Remain. In Scotland every voting area came | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
out in favour of Remain ? 62% of Scottish voters backed Remain | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
with 38% backing a Leave vote. In Wales, Leave won over 52% | :01:51. | :01:56. | |
of the vote and secured the most votes in all but five | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
of the 22 counting areas. In Northern Ireland - | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
the only part of the UK that shares a border with the European Union - | :02:05. | :02:07. | |
voters backed Remain with 55% of voters choosing | :02:08. | :02:09. | |
to remain in the EU, Well, that's how the results | :02:10. | :02:12. | |
across the UK look. We will, of course, be discussing | :02:13. | :02:21. | |
in great detail what it all means for you, for the United Kingdom | :02:22. | :02:24. | |
and for the European Union. But first our political | :02:25. | :02:30. | |
correspondent Carole Walker reports There was no hiding | :02:31. | :02:32. | |
the emotion as David Cameron, with his wife Samantha, | :02:33. | :02:39. | |
emerged from Downing Street. He said the will of the British | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
people must be respected, but as he had fought and lost | :02:45. | :02:48. | |
the campaign to remain in the EU, the country should | :02:49. | :02:51. | |
have a new Prime Minister. I fought this campaign | :02:52. | :02:54. | |
in the only way I know how, which is to say directly | :02:55. | :02:57. | |
and passionately what I think But the British people have made | :02:58. | :03:00. | |
a very clear decision As such, I think the country | :03:01. | :03:14. | |
requires fresh leadership to take I will do everything I can | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
as Prime Minister to steady the ship over the coming weeks and months, | :03:18. | :03:23. | |
but I do not think it would be right for me to try to be the captain | :03:24. | :03:26. | |
that steers our country With turmoil and uncertainty | :03:27. | :03:29. | |
in the financial markets, the Governor of the Bank of England | :03:30. | :03:39. | |
said it was prepared to take further action to support the British | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
economy if necessary. We have taken all the necessary | :03:43. | :03:56. | |
steps to prepare for today's event is, in the future we will not | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
hesitate to take any responsibility -- measures required to bear our | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
responsibility as the United Kingdom moves forward. | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
From the moment the results started coming in just after midnight, | :04:09. | :04:10. | |
By the end of the night, they had won a clean sweep across the north | :04:11. | :04:19. | |
of England, the Midlands, the East and West of England. London was the | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
only region of England to support remaining a member of the EU. The | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
result in Flintshire reflected the outcry across Wales, where voters | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
backed Brexit. But Scotland voted by a clear majority to stay in the EU. | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
Scotland's First Minister said it was clear that the people of | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
Scotland see their future as part of the European Union. The results will | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
bring fresh calls for a second referendum on Scottish independence. | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
Northern Ireland has also voted to remain in the EU. Sinn Fein has said | :04:52. | :04:55. | |
it intensifies the case for a vote on whether Northern Ireland should | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
leave the United Kingdom. Shortly before five, it was clear | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
that the UK had taken an historic decision to leave the European | :05:05. | :05:05. | |
Union. At 4:40am, we can say the decision | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
taken in 1975 by this country to join the Common Market has | :05:11. | :05:13. | |
been reversed by this Ukip's leader Nigel Farage said | :05:14. | :05:16. | |
he was thrilled that the country had decided to break free | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
and what he called a failing, 17 million people have said we must | :05:21. | :05:22. | |
leave the European Union. We now need a Brexit Government, | :05:23. | :05:34. | |
a Government that gets on with the job, a Government that | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
begins the renegotiation The Labour leader said | :05:38. | :05:48. | |
he hoped the negotiations with the European Union | :05:49. | :05:53. | |
would include efforts Clearly there are difficult days | :05:54. | :06:00. | |
ahead, the value of the pound has fallen, there will be job | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
consequences as a result of this decision. | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
A momentous day for Britain, for Europe, as the country and bugs on a | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
new and uncertain future, outside the EU and under a different leader | :06:12. | :06:14. | |
-- as the country and box on. In a moment we will be going to the | :06:15. | :06:27. | |
City with Simon Jack. But with this now is resistant political editor | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
Norman Smith. We saw from the erection outside Boris Johnson's | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
house at the left, boos and cheers. A divided nation, but you have to | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
think of the millions and millions of people who were jubilant, because | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
finally they have got what they wanted, we are leaving the EU. | :06:44. | :06:49. | |
Dejection for some, utter joy for others. I spoke to one leading | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
Brexit campaigner who compared it to the reparation them -- Reformation. | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
His view was that it was a chance for Britain to be reborn, | :06:58. | :07:03. | |
unconstrained by continental Europe, there would be a modern version of | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
the Elizabethan age with Bowring British culture, self-confidence and | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
power. For them it has been a long, persistence and attritional | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
campaign. But it is a very divided country, both geographically with | :07:19. | :07:20. | |
London and Scotland voting overwhelmingly to remaining, pretty | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
much everywhere else to get out. Also in terms of class and culture. | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
You look at some of the more aptly learned, prosperous cities where | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
there are graduates, they tended to vote in -- affluence, prosperous. | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
But large swathes where they have suffered through the decline of | :07:39. | :07:43. | |
older industry and not really seen rebirth in their communities, I | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
think they have felt a grievance that while in places like London | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
things seem to be going well, they were not able to walk on the Sony is | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
the side of the street. That is most shown in traditional Labour areas | :07:57. | :08:04. | |
where huge numbers of Labour voters decided to Leave. 70% in Hartlepool. | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
Massive majorities. This tells a story about the two nation Britain | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
which has been thrown up by the referendum. Seismic changes ahead, | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
not least at number ten. Events are moving so fast. Mr Cameron has | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
announced he is standing down. He says he will remain until the party | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
conference in sober, in effect he is a caretaker Prime Minister. The | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
leadership conference will begin now -- party conference in October. I | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
understand some of the likely players are considering their | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
options. It has to now. The party membership is to choose eventually | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
between two candidate, that will take about a month's worth of ballot | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
papers, which will take you to the end of August. MPs will have to | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
choose the two. Parliament goes into recess in July, so they need to | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
choose that now. That process begins now, Boris Johnson is in pole | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
position, without him, I doubt the Brexit campaign would have had | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
anything like the impetus and momentum, they not have won. On the | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
Labour side, growing rumblings that now has come the time to move | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
against Jeremy Corbyn, I think you will find Labour figures later this | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
morning calling publicly for Corbyn to reconsider his position because | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
of the lacklustre campaign he fought. He went to the campaign | :09:27. | :09:33. | |
saying he was not much of a fan of the EU, they blame him for failing | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
to carbonise the Labour vote. We might end up with Cameron and Corbyn | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
gone, you could almost ended with a wee shaping of Westminster politics. | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
In the back of that, we could have a general election sooner rather than | :09:48. | :09:52. | |
later, even. All change. All change, who knows? As the | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
results came clear in the early hours, the pound plunged, it | :09:57. | :09:59. | |
literally fell off the cliff. Let's go to the City, to our business | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
editor Simon Jack who is there. Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
England has been seeking to reassure markets. What is Jewish and now? | :10:09. | :10:18. | |
This is not what they expected? -- what is the situation now? Was the | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
nagging question, were the bookies and the City right, or was it the | :10:23. | :10:36. | |
polls. The pound was worth $1.5, its highest of 2016. It got an almighty | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
reckoning in the small hours of the morning, falling 10%, peak to | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
trough, more than double the amount it fell on Black Wednesday back in | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
1992. They were looking for reassurance, Mark Carney said, don't | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
worry, I have your back on the Bank of England is ready to put into | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
Madrid and ?50 billion of extra liquidity, it seemed to work. -- to | :10:58. | :11:05. | |
put in an extra 200 billion -- ?250 billion. It is not just in the UK | :11:06. | :11:13. | |
but around Europe, let me show you the European stock markets. In | :11:14. | :11:19. | |
Spain, down 10%. In Italy, down 10%, down twice as much as the City in | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
the UK. A lot of investors are saying this could be as bad as some | :11:24. | :11:30. | |
of the European economies, if not worse. The business leaders have | :11:31. | :11:33. | |
said that we respect the opinion of the British people, are people like | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
JP Morgan in the City are saying they might have to move some people | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
if we had to be near European clients and within the EU, we might | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
have to move people around. A lot of nervousness, shock this morning, now | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
questions being asked. Nobody will lose their job today, we have | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
months, days, weeks and even years to negotiate the finer points of how | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
to deal with the rest of the world, but shock waves are being felt in | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
the City and reverberations will begin to trickle through to the real | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
economy. In what ways, it is too early to say. | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
Politicians are getting the ring to react to the result and the | :12:13. | :12:18. | |
resignation of David Cameron, who says he will step down by October. | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
Some have campaigned for Brexit for their whole political lives, for | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
others, it is something they have never wanted to see. Nigel Farage | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
said the referendum was won because of large numbers of Labour | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
supporters who voted against the party leadership, who were | :12:39. | :12:39. | |
campaigning for Remain. I am joined by John Mann MP, one of | :12:40. | :12:54. | |
a number of sub -- Labour MPs, who campaigned to leave, as well as | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
Douglas Carswell. The Prime Minister has fallen on his sword, should | :13:00. | :13:06. | |
Jeremy Corbyn followed his example? Not in the short-term, he should be | :13:07. | :13:09. | |
coming up with an agenda for what should happen. It is Labour voters | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
who won this referendum. That creates a mandate for the new Tory | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
leader, and that mandate is not to run a gone any of the workers' | :13:20. | :13:25. | |
rights issues, the paid holidays, maternity pay, working hours, and a | :13:26. | :13:30. | |
quick victory can be to reverse the privatisation of the NHS, which the | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
EU has allowed in my area. That is what Jeremy ought to be on the front | :13:36. | :13:43. | |
foot with, and there is a mandate from this extraordinary referendum | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
for that. I am told there is a letter signed by 55 Labour MPs | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
calling for Jeremy Corbyn to go. It will be delivered next week. Have | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
you seen that? No. Would you sign it? It is a distraction. The big | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
issue is what the agenda should be. That is what is critical now. One of | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
the problems, we spend too much time looking at who does the job, we did | :14:10. | :14:14. | |
it after the election defeat in 2015, not enough time thinking | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
through the lessons to be learned. Our voters have voted the way that I | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
thought they should vote, and they voted in large numbers. Not every | :14:24. | :14:29. | |
Labour MP understands that. Why does Labour now no longer represent the | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
nonmetropolitan working classes? Labour has failed to listen and it | :14:35. | :14:41. | |
has failed... It has not had the courage to talk about immigration. | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
That is the issue that people have not been prepared to talk about. I | :14:46. | :14:52. | |
get tweets calling me racist. Total nonsense. I am not a racist, I am an | :14:53. | :14:59. | |
active anti-racist, and neither are my constituents who voted to leave. | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
Labour needs to get its head around the immigration argument. Jeremy | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
Corbyn said he does not think there should be any upper limit on | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
immigration. That is why he needs to spend time with my Labour voters and | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
others in the north of England, understanding their aspirations, | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
views and perspective. What happens now to Ukip? Have you not lost your | :15:23. | :15:30. | |
reason for existing? So much of politics is a cartel. Many people | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
who voted will feel that the party they normally vote for is led by | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
people who have more in common with one another here than they do with | :15:37. | :15:41. | |
those who they supposed to represent. We need change to break | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
the cartel, I hope Ukip can be the change, but you have to be | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
optimistic, forward-looking, you cannot do nativism. We have voted to | :15:51. | :15:55. | |
leave, that was the primary purpose of Ukip, the Tories will now pick a | :15:56. | :16:00. | |
Brexit leader, somebody in favour of coming out, what is Ukip's appeal to | :16:01. | :16:10. | |
wavering Tories? It is Labour that is the potential growth market for | :16:11. | :16:17. | |
Ukip. Not the Tories? There are some Conservatives who could still come | :16:18. | :16:20. | |
to Ukip, but we have maxed out that market. The big growth market... You | :16:21. | :16:27. | |
only have one MP. The party of Keir Hardie is in favour of giving | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
technocrats and bankers in Brussels and Europe control over people's | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
lives, that is not the party that Keir Hardie foundered. We need to | :16:38. | :16:43. | |
compete for those votes. You tell him about the Labour Party. My | :16:44. | :16:52. | |
family has been in the Labour Party or the way through. The heartland | :16:53. | :16:58. | |
voters are Labour voters. Splitting and dividing the Tory elite... | :16:59. | :17:07. | |
Digitech viewpoint... We need to use the term reconnect with those | :17:08. | :17:13. | |
voters, that means changing some policies to meet their aspirations, | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
and that is what we have not done sufficiently. Is Ukip now more of a | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
threat to Labour in the North than to the Tories in the South? The | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
threat is the Tory party. Never underestimate the Tory party | :17:28. | :17:30. | |
recreated itself the power. This gives us a chance. This mandate for | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
change is a mandate against privatisation and it is a mandate | :17:37. | :17:43. | |
for pay, conditions, workers' right. The party that will be most | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
successful in appealing to this new disaffected electorates is going to | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
be the party that practices a bit of open source democracy. Instead of a | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
small elite in Westminster choosing the candidates, let's use open | :17:56. | :18:01. | |
primaries, let's let members decide policy. If parties want to appeal to | :18:02. | :18:08. | |
people disaffected by the part L -- by the cartel, there needs to be | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
fundamental change. Should Labour, or the opposition, the involved in | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
the Brexit talks? Yes, the Government should allow them, there | :18:19. | :18:27. | |
should be a cross-party involvement. We should get the best terms and | :18:28. | :18:31. | |
deliver voice should be heard. And Ukip? We need consensus, a huge | :18:32. | :18:38. | |
minority voted for Remain, we need to respect that. I would love to be | :18:39. | :18:45. | |
involved. That go to Victoria in Manchester. | :18:46. | :18:52. | |
We have got and, with six-month-old heaven. She is going to grow up in | :18:53. | :19:01. | |
an independent Great Britain, what do you think of that? I feel | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
devastated. Knowing that my daughter will be growing up in an inward | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
looking country. One that I am scared about living in, because it | :19:12. | :19:15. | |
feels that there is so much hate being bred by the media and by | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
certain political parties. I want her to have the ability to learn | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
about other cultures and be part of a Europe that I see as really | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
positive and four other children in this country. Leaving the EU does | :19:30. | :19:38. | |
not mean she can do that. It is the political climate and the attitude | :19:39. | :19:41. | |
of others that will influence her and other children. We have got | :19:42. | :19:48. | |
Francesca, 24-year-old, from Manchester. You voted to remain, | :19:49. | :19:55. | |
what are you thinking? I did not think I would be here, I thought it | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
would not be something that would affect me, I thought it would be | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
similar to the Scottish referendum, when nothing changed. You thought | :20:04. | :20:10. | |
Leave woodwind? Definitely, and it is the unknown now. With younger | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
voters, UC Nigel Farage claiming the NHS money would go back to them, and | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
then going back on it, it is like when the Liberal Democrats said | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
student fees would be eliminated, young people don't trust politics. | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
What do you think about your future? A question mark. We have an, who is | :20:30. | :20:38. | |
32, Francesca, 24, they both voted Remain. I am 64. You voted to leave. | :20:39. | :20:48. | |
Why? Fundamentally, it was about democracy. I'm surprised that we | :20:49. | :20:56. | |
won, because I can't believe the massed ranks of ordinary people felt | :20:57. | :20:59. | |
confident enough to vote against the massed ranks of the establishment. | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
What about the 48% of people who voted Remain? It would be the same | :21:06. | :21:13. | |
the other way around. There is nothing more than aquatic than this | :21:14. | :21:20. | |
boat. Some of the voting for constituencies is rigged. You may | :21:21. | :21:26. | |
say that! You know what the outcome will be. But on this, you do not | :21:27. | :21:34. | |
know. One man, one vote, it can't equal, we got 52%. I would have | :21:35. | :21:39. | |
accepted 48%. And one woman, one vote as well! Be hopeful. People | :21:40. | :21:46. | |
have come together from both sides, good conversation, there is no | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
reason why it cannot transfer across the country. More from Manchester | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
later. This result will have huge | :21:55. | :22:00. | |
implications across the UK. Let's get reaction from Scotland, Wales | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
and Northern Ireland and find out what the consequences of the vote | :22:05. | :22:05. | |
could repeatedly. Hello from Edinburgh, a city which | :22:06. | :22:19. | |
is always seen as a great European capital, so it is no surprise to | :22:20. | :22:22. | |
anyone that the city which is sometimes called the Athens of the | :22:23. | :22:30. | |
North should have voted to remain in the EU, 62% of Scottish people want | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
to stay within the EQ, which raises a big question, if the people of | :22:35. | :22:38. | |
Scotland want to remain in and the people of England want to get out, | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
is it time for Scotland to breakaway from England? That is the big | :22:44. | :22:50. | |
subject of discussion here. Within the next hour, we expect the colour | :22:51. | :22:57. | |
sturgeon -- Nicola Sturgeon to perhaps open the case for a second | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
referendum. It is a concentrated procedure, section 30 of the | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
Scotland act, it would require negotiations with Westminster, but | :23:07. | :23:09. | |
that is what the SNP faithful would like to do. David Cameron's legacy | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
could be that he is seeing not only written leaving the EU, but also the | :23:15. | :23:25. | |
end of the United Kingdom. In Wales, 17 of the 22 local | :23:26. | :23:31. | |
authorities here voted out, and it is there to say that the Remain camp | :23:32. | :23:36. | |
were not showing -- expecting such a strong showing for a Brexit. A 5% | :23:37. | :23:42. | |
gap tween them and Remain. The turnout was 72%, that is | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
significantly higher than the Welsh assembly elections last month, 45%. | :23:48. | :23:54. | |
The majority of those areas that voted to leave our areas that | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
benefit from EU funding, Blaenau Gwent, told fine and Caerphilly. | :24:00. | :24:05. | |
Reacting to the news, Carwyn Jones gave a statement. He said, now that | :24:06. | :24:12. | |
Wales and Britain have left, the way that Wales is funded will have to be | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
renegotiated. Wales is a net beneficiary from the | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
EU to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds. There is now an | :24:21. | :24:23. | |
overwhelming case for a major and immediate revision of the Barnett | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
formula, taking into account needs arising from EU withdrawal. I will | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
make the call today and in the days to come for the promise that was | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
made to Wales that Wales would not lose a penny as a result of the | :24:39. | :24:44. | |
result last night. I will call for that promise to be honoured. | :24:45. | :24:51. | |
Finally, withdraw from the EU is a massive constitutional shift for the | :24:52. | :24:56. | |
UK. It has equally far ranging implications for the devolution | :24:57. | :25:01. | |
settlement. The relationship between devolved administrations and the UK | :25:02. | :25:04. | |
Government must now be placed onto an entirely different footing. | :25:05. | :25:13. | |
Some have said that the Remain camp in Wales were too slow to react | :25:14. | :25:18. | |
after last month's Welsh assembly, seven Ukip members were elected in | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
the Senate in Cardiff Bay. The Labour vote was down by 7%, some | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
said they were too slow and did not realise there was such a strong vote | :25:29. | :25:33. | |
for a Brexit. Neil Hamilton has said he is delighted, if not slightly | :25:34. | :25:39. | |
surprised, with today's result. Here in Northern Ireland there was a | :25:40. | :25:43. | |
vote to remain, but when you look at the figures, 56% for Remain and 44% | :25:44. | :25:51. | |
for Leave, some Remain campaigners will be disappointed they did not | :25:52. | :25:54. | |
get more of their vote out. When you break down the figures, it does seem | :25:55. | :26:01. | |
to show that nationalists did not engaged, they were more likely to | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
vote Remain, whereas Unionists what their vote out, they were more | :26:07. | :26:10. | |
likely to vote for Leave. The DUP were one of the most vocal of the | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
Leave campaigners, the biggest party at Stormont, and they have welcomed | :26:16. | :26:21. | |
the vote across the UK for a vote to leave the EU. That has major | :26:22. | :26:26. | |
publications here and implications. There is the question of the | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
economy, a lot of cross-border trade between here and the Republic of | :26:32. | :26:34. | |
Ireland, and a big trading partner with the rest of the UK, the | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
Republic. There are questions about what will happen to that and what | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
will happen to that border that exists currently. Lots of talk about | :26:43. | :26:45. | |
whether there would have to be customs checkpoints or checks | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
between the islands if that was going forward. There are questions | :26:51. | :26:54. | |
about whether there should be some kind of independence referendum | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
here. Not in terms of complete independence, but of a united | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
Ireland, a border poll has been called for by Sinn Fein, it has been | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
ruled out by the DUP this morning, but it has started a debate, and | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
these questions about the EU have raised a lot of questions about the | :27:13. | :27:13. | |
UK. Chris Buckler in Belfast, Thomas | :27:14. | :27:30. | |
Mason in Cardiff - Tomos Morgan, apologies, in Cardiff, and Gavin | :27:31. | :27:33. | |
Esler in Edinburgh. Thank you all very much. You are watching a | :27:34. | :27:40. | |
special EU referendum programme, with me, Sophie Raworth. We can now | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
go over to the newsroom for a summary of the latest news, with | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
Joanna Gosling. After more than 40 years, the UK is to end its | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
membership of the European Union. The decision has been decisive, with | :27:55. | :28:00. | |
the Leave campaign securing its victory by a margin of more than 1 | :28:01. | :28:03. | |
million votes. David Cameron has said he will step down and a new | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
Prime Minister will be in place within months. 17.4 million people | :28:08. | :28:12. | |
voted for the UK to leave the EU, compared with 16.1 million voters | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
who backed Remain. Turnout was 72%, the highest level in a nationwide | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
ballot in the UK since 1992. As the UK work up to the news, but it is to | :28:25. | :28:32. | |
exit the European Union, Leave campaigners were celebrating. Nigel | :28:33. | :28:35. | |
Farage lead those in Westminster, saying the 23rd of June should now | :28:36. | :28:38. | |
be regarded as Britain is Independence Day. Those from the | :28:39. | :28:43. | |
Remain camp described the result is a catastrophe. Supporters of Remain | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
consoled each other as the campaign received lower-than-expected support | :28:49. | :28:51. | |
across swathes of England, including the Midlands and the north. Speaking | :28:52. | :28:57. | |
outside Downing Street, David Cameron said he will resign as Prime | :28:58. | :29:00. | |
Minister, with a new leader appointed by, so. I think the | :29:01. | :29:04. | |
country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction. -- by | :29:05. | :29:11. | |
October. I will do everything I can as the Prime Minister to steady the | :29:12. | :29:14. | |
ship over the coming weeks and months. But I do not think it would | :29:15. | :29:19. | |
be right for me to try to be the captain who steers our country to | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
its next estimation. This is not a decision I have taken lightly. But I | :29:24. | :29:27. | |
do believe it is in the national interest to have a period of | :29:28. | :29:31. | |
stability, and then the new leadership required. There is no | :29:32. | :29:35. | |
need for a precise timetable today. But in my view we should aim to have | :29:36. | :29:39. | |
a new Prime Minister in place by the start of the Conservative Party | :29:40. | :29:44. | |
conference in October. The former London mayor and leading Brexit | :29:45. | :29:47. | |
campaigner Boris Johnson, who has been a prominent figure in the Vote | :29:48. | :29:51. | |
Leave campaign, was met with boos from demonstrators as he left his | :29:52. | :29:56. | |
north London home a short while ago. He is now a leading candidate to | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
succeed David Cameron as Prime Minister. He battled his way through | :30:01. | :30:07. | |
a scrum of police and prostate is -- and protesters, to boos and cheers, | :30:08. | :30:13. | |
without comment. The results have upset the world financial markets. | :30:14. | :30:18. | |
Pound plunged in the biggest one-day drop in 30 years, falling to levels | :30:19. | :30:24. | |
not seen since 1985. The Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, | :30:25. | :30:26. | |
who had previously warned of the dangers of voting to leave the EU, | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
sought to reassure the markets, saying the Bank was well-prepared | :30:32. | :30:37. | |
for a Leave vote. We have taken all the necessary steps to prepare for | :30:38. | :30:42. | |
today's events. And in the future, we will not hesitate to take any | :30:43. | :30:48. | |
additional measures required to meet our responsibilities as the United | :30:49. | :30:51. | |
Kingdom goes forward. We can go back now to Sophie Raworth in Downing | :30:52. | :30:57. | |
Street. Thank you very much. So, big questions about what this decision | :30:58. | :31:02. | |
will now mean for the United Kingdom. Big questions, too, for | :31:03. | :31:08. | |
what it will mean for the future of the European Union and for its 27 | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
other member states. The European Parliament has held an emergency | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
meeting this morning. Matthew Amroliwala is in Brussels for us. | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
Thank you very much. They are absolutely stunned here at the heart | :31:22. | :31:29. | |
of the EU. Earlier in the day, the Council President, Donald Tusk, said | :31:30. | :31:32. | |
this is not the time for hysterical reaction. He may say that, but this | :31:33. | :31:37. | |
is a seismic decision for the EU as a whole. Let's gauge the mood around | :31:38. | :31:41. | |
European capitals. We have Jenny Hill in Berlin, Hugh Schofield in | :31:42. | :31:45. | |
Paris and cash in Madeira in Warsaw. Jenny Hill, first of all, how | :31:46. | :31:55. | |
difficult is this exit going to be? Well, I have spent the morning here | :31:56. | :31:58. | |
in the German parliament, and I can tell you that the sense of shock and | :31:59. | :32:04. | |
disbelief is really very striking. Even at the very highest level I | :32:05. | :32:07. | |
think here in Germany, nobody really expected this. We are already | :32:08. | :32:12. | |
getting the sense from politicians here that they are not going to make | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
it easy for Britain to negotiate some kind of new relationship with | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
the EU. Already, three MPs have said to me separately, Britain cannot | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
expect to cherry-picked when it comes to renegotiating its | :32:25. | :32:28. | |
relationship. There must be consequences for this decision. And | :32:29. | :32:31. | |
there will be no special treatment. Out means out. Don't underestimate | :32:32. | :32:36. | |
the sense of sadness there is here as well. The Vice Chancellor spoke | :32:37. | :32:39. | |
for many I think when he treated first thing this morning - damn, | :32:40. | :32:45. | |
this is a bad day for Europe! The reason MPs are starting to talk in | :32:46. | :32:49. | |
such tough terms is because they are really concerned that this could | :32:50. | :32:54. | |
precipitate potentially the erosion, even the break-up of the European | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
Union. So they are very keen to discourage any other countries from | :32:59. | :33:01. | |
following Britain to the door. Of course they're going to face a lot | :33:02. | :33:04. | |
of lobbying from industry here in Germany. There are huge commercial | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
ties between Germany and Britain. But for now there is very much a | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
profound sense of shock. We are waiting to hear from Angela Merkel | :33:13. | :33:15. | |
in the next couple of hours. Many of MPs have said this morning, this is | :33:16. | :33:20. | |
a sad day for Britain, for Germany and for Europe. Let me hand you over | :33:21. | :33:24. | |
to Hugh Schofield for the view from France. Yes, where President | :33:25. | :33:29. | |
Hollande must have been one of many leaders in Europe who got up this | :33:30. | :33:33. | |
morning feeling that the world had somewhat shifted on its axis after | :33:34. | :33:39. | |
the seismic vote in Britain. The president has had a torrid time of | :33:40. | :33:42. | |
it of late, with various other matters on his agenda. This is even | :33:43. | :33:47. | |
more terrible news for him. He will be doing all he can to react to it. | :33:48. | :33:53. | |
He's holding meeting now with inner cabinet. Up until now, the whole | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
process of Europe has been one of integration. The watchword, the | :33:59. | :34:04. | |
article of faith almost in France, has been integration. Now that this | :34:05. | :34:07. | |
prospect has emerged of the very opposite, disintegration, that is | :34:08. | :34:14. | |
preoccupying him greatly. He is meeting there with his inner cabinet | :34:15. | :34:17. | |
and he will come out quite soon to give some kind of student statement. | :34:18. | :34:21. | |
We can expect that he will say that he and other European leaders take | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
note of the British decision, it is a democratic decision, and that | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
therefore, he wants the process of separation to take place very | :34:33. | :34:35. | |
quickly indeed. I think there will be very little patience here for any | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
kind of delay in invoking article 50. He will be very clear that there | :34:41. | :34:44. | |
will be no favours given to Britain, no halfway house in the British | :34:45. | :34:50. | |
separation. For the rest of it he will talk about the EU and the need | :34:51. | :34:55. | |
for moving forward and the need for, as Jenny was saying, no more | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
contagion. The great fear here is Le Pen and the National Front rushing | :35:00. | :35:03. | |
its agenda, taking advantage of this. I can hand you over to our | :35:04. | :35:09. | |
correspondent in Warsaw now. I can say that that sense of shock here in | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
Poland is absolutely echoed. The Foreign Minister said that this is | :35:15. | :35:17. | |
bad news for Europe and add news for Poland. Let's not forget that Poland | :35:18. | :35:24. | |
has around 1 million or so nationals living and working in the UK. What | :35:25. | :35:29. | |
is going to happen to all of these people worry their future is | :35:30. | :35:33. | |
uncertain. And their future is of deep concern for government here in | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
this country, because they send back around $1 billion a year. So, a | :35:38. | :35:44. | |
sizeable chunk of money. Will they need visas? Will they need travel | :35:45. | :35:47. | |
permits? Will they need work permits? This is all for discussions | :35:48. | :35:52. | |
for the future. But it is this sense of sadness and a sense of loss. I | :35:53. | :35:56. | |
have been speaking to some students, one who was going off to Oxford | :35:57. | :36:01. | |
University, who says that she feels unwanted by the UK. And her future | :36:02. | :36:06. | |
is so bright. So, a real sense of loss, and also a political loss for | :36:07. | :36:12. | |
the Polish government, because of course, their ally, the British | :36:13. | :36:14. | |
Conservative Party, was a huge political force in the European | :36:15. | :36:23. | |
Conservatives and Reformists. I think Polish people are just coming | :36:24. | :36:28. | |
to grips with this. Yesterday, politicians from all of the parties | :36:29. | :36:34. | |
were saying, hold your fingers, which means basically, keep your | :36:35. | :36:37. | |
fingers crossed for the UK. So now I get it as a matter of how Poland | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
will agree some kind of agreements with the United Kingdom, how will | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
Brussels deal with it? Back to you, Matthew. Thanks to all of you. I | :36:47. | :36:54. | |
mentioned Donald Tusk. He is due to have a news conference within the | :36:55. | :36:57. | |
next half an hour with Jean-Claude Juncker. Mr Juncker said he would | :36:58. | :37:03. | |
not resign if in effect he had overseen a Brexit wrote. Both of | :37:04. | :37:07. | |
those will be speaking shortly. I'm not sure they ever really had real | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
contingency plans. They have had to get some. While there is shock | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
across large parts of Europe, celebrations here - Williams of | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
people who voted to leave cannot believe that they have finally got | :37:24. | :37:29. | |
what they wanted for so long. -- billions of people. Nigel Farage has | :37:30. | :37:32. | |
called it Independence Day for the UK. He has tweeted that he had | :37:33. | :37:36. | |
kippers and champagne for breakfast. The people we have not heard from | :37:37. | :37:42. | |
yet are the key figures of the Leave campaign - Boris Johnson, Michael | :37:43. | :37:49. | |
Gove and Gisela Stuart. They are expected to appear together at | :37:50. | :37:52. | |
around 11 o'clock this morning. We are also expecting to hear from | :37:53. | :37:57. | |
Scotland's First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, all around 11 o'clock. We | :37:58. | :38:00. | |
will of course bring you that live as soon as it happens. In the | :38:01. | :38:04. | |
meantime, let's give you a proper breakdown of how the United Kingdom | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
voted yesterday, as we go over to the newsroom, and Christian Fraser. | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
Yes, let's have a look at those numbers in some more detail, then. | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
Starting with England. More than 28 million people voted on Thursday. | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
You can see that there was a pretty high turnout, the biggest since | :38:24. | :38:27. | |
1992. They were saying that a big turnout would be good for Remain. | :38:28. | :38:37. | |
But they all got it wrong. 6% lead for Leave in England. Look at that | :38:38. | :38:44. | |
blue-chip all over the country. In Cornwall, Devon, Dorset, big dig | :38:45. | :38:47. | |
into Lancashire, Yorkshire, big Labour supporting areas. These | :38:48. | :38:51. | |
little spots in yellow, the metropolitan areas - Liverpool, | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
Manchester, Leeds, York and Harrogate, affluent areas, of course | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
the Newcastle appear, but Newcastle, only by the slimmest of margins. It | :39:02. | :39:06. | |
is those areas which they expected to win in, places like Sheffield, | :39:07. | :39:12. | |
Durham, Coventry, Watford, where Remain just did not get the vote | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
out. London we expected to be Remain. But not all of the | :39:17. | :39:25. | |
south-east. Large parts of Kent there in blue-chip. I think I can | :39:26. | :39:30. | |
show you the top five areas which supported Leave. Castle Point in | :39:31. | :39:37. | |
Essex, Thurrock and Great Yarmouth we know as big Ukip areas. And the | :39:38. | :39:46. | |
top five Remain area is... Nos uprise, Gibraltar at the top. At | :39:47. | :39:54. | |
also these London boroughs... Let's take a closer look at Scotland. 32 | :39:55. | :40:02. | |
regions in Scotland - every one of them going to Remain. But the | :40:03. | :40:06. | |
interesting thing was the turnout, 2.7 million people voting in | :40:07. | :40:11. | |
Scotland, with a turnout of 67%, less than the UK average, and it was | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
85% in the independence referendum. Maybe some voter fatigue. Four | :40:16. | :40:23. | |
elections in less than two years in Scotland. But the result, as we have | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
been seeing, overwhelming, opening up the question of a second | :40:29. | :40:31. | |
independence referendum vote in Scotland. Similar picture in | :40:32. | :40:37. | |
Northern Ireland. And an interesting picture as well. The vote perhaps | :40:38. | :40:41. | |
split along some sectarian lines here. Three areas in Belfast out of | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
four, voting for Remain. But it is these areas close to the border, all | :40:47. | :40:55. | |
in yellow. Let's take a final look at Wales. This will be a huge | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
disappointment to Labour and two Jeremy Corbyn. Only five of the 22 | :41:00. | :41:08. | |
areas in Wales going to Remain. Cardiff went to Remain, but Swansea | :41:09. | :41:14. | |
didn't. Merthyr Tydfil, Newport, carefully, or going to Leave. Again, | :41:15. | :41:21. | |
turnout very high in Wales. And a 6-point lead for Leave over Remain. | :41:22. | :41:25. | |
All of those figures are on the website if you want to have a look. | :41:26. | :41:37. | |
A short time ago, former Prime Minister Tony Blair gave his | :41:38. | :41:42. | |
reaction, and he said that he felt personally sorry for David Cameron. | :41:43. | :41:48. | |
This is what he had to say. We are a divided country, which is why it is | :41:49. | :41:51. | |
important for the Prime Minister and others to try and bring the country | :41:52. | :41:54. | |
together and work out a way through this. I don't think we should take | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
any rash decisions at the moment, we have got to see what the fallout is | :41:59. | :42:01. | |
in the coming days and weeks. We have got to handle it in a mature | :42:02. | :42:07. | |
and sensible way. I think the Prime Minister is absolutely right not to | :42:08. | :42:10. | |
invoke the article 15 process at this point in time. We have got to | :42:11. | :42:16. | |
reflect and unite and chart a way forward which is in the interests of | :42:17. | :42:19. | |
the country. We are dealing with massive questions. These are | :42:20. | :42:24. | |
questions of fundamental importance to our future, economically, | :42:25. | :42:25. | |
insecurity and in politics. Reaction continues to filter | :42:26. | :42:32. | |
through. Let's go to College Green. We voted to leave the EU, but the | :42:33. | :42:57. | |
governing party now has a leadership contest, are we in for a summer of | :42:58. | :43:02. | |
huge uncertainty? The Prime Minister did two important things, alongside | :43:03. | :43:05. | |
what was an unexpected announcement that he will be going in a short | :43:06. | :43:12. | |
time. The first was he made it clear he is not going immediately, so we | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
have a period of continuity at least until the autumn. That is crucial in | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
settling the market. The other important thing was make it clear | :43:22. | :43:26. | |
that he will not be invoking article 50, this mechanism for negotiating | :43:27. | :43:33. | |
exit from the EU. We have the opportunity to have a calm, rational | :43:34. | :43:37. | |
discussion about what our priorities are and how we should carry that | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
out. When does the Tory leadership contest again? I will need to | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
discuss that with the committee executive. We will meet on Monday to | :43:47. | :43:51. | |
have that conversation. If we were to meet the timetable of a new | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
leader in place before the party conference, we would need to move | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
quite quickly. Does the Labour leadership have questions to answer | :44:03. | :44:07. | |
about its conduct? There are some difficult questions for the Labour | :44:08. | :44:10. | |
Party. We are in some difficult waters, dangerous waters, and | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
whether it is about the market stability, the negotiations, we have | :44:16. | :44:21. | |
got a responsibility to get the best deal for the country and show some | :44:22. | :44:24. | |
leadership working with the Government to do so. That includes | :44:25. | :44:30. | |
not calling for the immediate triggering of article 50, as we seem | :44:31. | :44:36. | |
to be earlier this morning. That is not the right thing to do, that | :44:37. | :44:40. | |
would not be in the interest of the British people. I am disappointed by | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
the result but we have to respect it and get the best possible deal for | :44:45. | :44:49. | |
Britain and the Labour community, which otherwise would be very | :44:50. | :44:52. | |
vulnerable. That is our responsibility. On the conduct of | :44:53. | :44:57. | |
the campaign, why does Labour no longer represent the aspirations of | :44:58. | :45:02. | |
the non-metropolitan working classes? There has been a big gap | :45:03. | :45:07. | |
between the cities and towns, the coalfield. We have to recognise that | :45:08. | :45:14. | |
the Labour Party did not reflect people's concerns about immigration, | :45:15. | :45:18. | |
I don't think the Government had practical responses. There is now a | :45:19. | :45:24. | |
big divide in the country around immigration, we have to build a new, | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
sensible consensus around that. It is not easy, but we have a | :45:30. | :45:34. | |
responsibility to do that. Otherwise, regardless of the trade | :45:35. | :45:36. | |
negotiations, we will have longer term problems. Who would you like to | :45:37. | :45:42. | |
see at the next leader of the good servant of party? Lets see who put | :45:43. | :45:48. | |
their hat into the ring. I will not name a candidate,... You have not | :45:49. | :45:58. | |
thought about it? No, I was concentrating on winning the vote | :45:59. | :46:03. | |
last night. Given that Boris Johnson went to head up the Leave campaign, | :46:04. | :46:08. | |
is he pretty unstoppable? He will have a strong case, but so will | :46:09. | :46:13. | |
others. We are jumping the gun. It is under way, you know politics. The | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
moment the Prime Minister says that he is resigning, the leadership | :46:19. | :46:23. | |
campaign begins. I watched the same statement by the Prime Minister, I | :46:24. | :46:28. | |
was as surprised as you were. Where you surprised? Surely it was | :46:29. | :46:34. | |
inevitable. Not necessarily. I did not sign the letter, but I thought | :46:35. | :46:38. | |
he was elected on a platform of delivering a referendum, so either | :46:39. | :46:43. | |
way he would stay as Prime Minister. There will be a contest. The | :46:44. | :46:47. | |
important thing now is that we have got a clear statement that we will | :46:48. | :46:52. | |
not trigger article 50, which is a good thing. That is to begin the | :46:53. | :46:58. | |
negotiations. The Treaty of Lisbon is a formal two-year period, if a | :46:59. | :47:02. | |
member state wants to succeed. If you decide to do that, you do that | :47:03. | :47:08. | |
once you have the broad guideline for agreement. Now we can work out | :47:09. | :47:14. | |
what those outlines are. Part of the issue is immigration. I was outside | :47:15. | :47:19. | |
polling stations, time and again the issue was raised, because we have | :47:20. | :47:24. | |
got the first major economic rebound, a lot of people have not | :47:25. | :47:26. | |
seen any enumeration increase because of this influx, and we have | :47:27. | :47:36. | |
trade which need skilled workers... David Cameron has gone to Buckingham | :47:37. | :47:39. | |
Palace to have an audience with the Queen. He said this morning when he | :47:40. | :47:45. | |
announced he was resigning that he had already spoken to the Queen. It | :47:46. | :47:50. | |
did not come as a prize to Her Majesty. Few things do. Tell me | :47:51. | :47:56. | |
about the leadership contest. You have to be a Tory MP to stand, a | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
number will throw their hat into the ring, the Tory MPs have first go, | :48:01. | :48:07. | |
they whittle it down to two. The rules require we provide a choice of | :48:08. | :48:10. | |
candidates for the party and the country. In the past it has always | :48:11. | :48:15. | |
been interpreted as two, I cannot see why we would change that. It | :48:16. | :48:18. | |
would be a decision for the executive, and then in consultation | :48:19. | :48:26. | |
with the board and the party. Do you expect Theresa May to come out of | :48:27. | :48:30. | |
her safe house in time for this? I am sure she will be in evidence. She | :48:31. | :48:37. | |
has not been during this campaign. She has made some cautious | :48:38. | :48:40. | |
interventions from time to time. Ltd and cautious. Which may have been | :48:41. | :48:46. | |
wise. Should Jeremy Corbyn fall on his sword? David Cameron has taken | :48:47. | :48:52. | |
responsibility for the campaign, which did not offer a positive | :48:53. | :48:55. | |
vision. That was the other problem with the campaign. The challenge now | :48:56. | :49:02. | |
is for the country. In terms of the Labour Party, the next step is the | :49:03. | :49:09. | |
Shadow Cabinet is meeting as we speak, and it is for them to set out | :49:10. | :49:16. | |
what kind of leadership we are going to be providing in terms of unifying | :49:17. | :49:20. | |
the country, addressing the problems and concerns for Labour voters in | :49:21. | :49:23. | |
the towns and coalfield is that did not support the lady -- the Labour | :49:24. | :49:29. | |
leadership position. How are we going to work with the Government to | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
get the best deal for the country? Would you like Labour to be on the | :49:34. | :49:37. | |
negotiating committee? I think the whole party will have to work with | :49:38. | :49:41. | |
the Government on this, and with our trade unions and as many voices as | :49:42. | :49:51. | |
possible. That go back to Sophie in Downing Street. | :49:52. | :49:56. | |
We can show you now shots of Buckingham Palace, because as we | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
know the Prime Minister left Downing Street about 45 minutes ago, out | :50:02. | :50:05. | |
through a back door, and he is now at the King Palace, where he is | :50:06. | :50:12. | |
having an audience with the Queen following his decision that he will | :50:13. | :50:15. | |
step down as Prime Minister by October. A decision that many did | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
not think would come right as early as today, but an emotional moment, | :50:21. | :50:25. | |
emotional scenes for the Prime Minister and his wife in Downing | :50:26. | :50:28. | |
Street when that was announced, when he made the announcement at 8:15am. | :50:29. | :50:35. | |
He is meeting with the Queen to inform her of his decision. We can | :50:36. | :50:42. | |
go now to the city, because there has been plenty of turmoil this | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
morning. The bankers, traders, then it of them who have been up all | :50:48. | :50:51. | |
night, many of them have debt on a Remain vote. It was wrong, and the | :50:52. | :50:57. | |
pound plunged in the early hours of this morning. What is the situation | :50:58. | :51:07. | |
now? Is it rallying? Since we heard the governor Mark Carney speak | :51:08. | :51:13. | |
earlier, he tried to reassure markets, they have picked up a bit, | :51:14. | :51:19. | |
but still in doubt. I will give you some business reaction, from the | :51:20. | :51:21. | |
chairman of Debenhams, what do you make of what has happened? An | :51:22. | :51:27. | |
extraordinary day, the British people have decided, so now we have | :51:28. | :51:33. | |
to get on with it. The issue now is in the short term we need calm, the | :51:34. | :51:37. | |
governor's speech was important, but the pound is way down, stock markets | :51:38. | :51:43. | |
are down. We need to know who the leadership will be, the political | :51:44. | :51:48. | |
leadership. We need a sense of the next two or three years, what is the | :51:49. | :51:52. | |
plan for how we redefine our relationship? How hard will be | :51:53. | :51:57. | |
retail sector the head? The stock market said we are ten, 15% down, | :51:58. | :52:02. | |
because most of what we sell, we import, so it will cost more. If the | :52:03. | :52:09. | |
uncertainty over economic growth is there, people spend less in shops, | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
so from the sales line, that is not great news. Were you surprised by | :52:14. | :52:19. | |
this? Where businesses ready? Most of the UK was surprised. It is | :52:20. | :52:25. | |
difficult to prepare exactly, because it depends on how we end up | :52:26. | :52:29. | |
working with Europe. What has been noticeable is how much more divided | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
the country has been on this issue, with a younger population voting to | :52:35. | :52:39. | |
stay and certain regions voting to leave. The degree of difference has | :52:40. | :52:42. | |
been more sharply marked and I would have expected. | :52:43. | :52:50. | |
Let's show you some images from the location in central London where we | :52:51. | :52:59. | |
are expecting shortly to hear from the leading figures of the Leave | :53:00. | :53:04. | |
campaign. Iris Johnston will be speaking, is alleged to and Michael | :53:05. | :53:10. | |
Gove. That is expected in five or ten minutes, we will bring you that | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
live as soon as we get it. But now, let's get reaction from Victoria in | :53:16. | :53:20. | |
Manchester, with a panel of people who she has assembled. | :53:21. | :53:26. | |
Steph was talking about the events in the City of London, we have been | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
talking about the economy here and people's money with voters. The vote | :53:32. | :53:38. | |
is to leave the European Union. You voted to leave, and you believed | :53:39. | :53:44. | |
those economic forecast from the Leave campaign and still went for | :53:45. | :53:48. | |
Leave. After considering the forecasts I thought it was | :53:49. | :53:50. | |
inevitable there would be a temporary shock to the forecasts, | :53:51. | :53:58. | |
the pound and the FTSE, but for the point of democracy, to be able to | :53:59. | :54:04. | |
make our own laws and to decide our own future, plus the strength of the | :54:05. | :54:12. | |
UK economy, I believe that would only be temporary, but I thought it | :54:13. | :54:17. | |
would be... A temporary recession, some job losses, that would be worth | :54:18. | :54:21. | |
it for the strength that it gives our democracy? There would be a | :54:22. | :54:30. | |
pessimistic devaluing of the pound, but after a while it would pick up, | :54:31. | :54:35. | |
because the UK economy is strong. You voted to remain. Yes, I think we | :54:36. | :54:43. | |
are stronger as a block. When people talk about Great Britain, we have | :54:44. | :54:47. | |
moved past that point, we are part of a global economy, we need to be | :54:48. | :54:51. | |
part of a bigger economy. What about a temporary shock is worth it? I am | :54:52. | :54:58. | |
not convinced. I wanted to vote on a bigger level, I was worried about | :54:59. | :55:03. | |
people at the bottom of the economy, will have real problems, the weakest | :55:04. | :55:06. | |
and poorest will struggle the most. I will be OK, but I have got | :55:07. | :55:13. | |
worries, I bought a house ten weeks ago, we don't know what will happen | :55:14. | :55:17. | |
with interest rates, I work in academia, a lot of money comes from | :55:18. | :55:22. | |
the EU, so where will that go? I have got personal worries and | :55:23. | :55:24. | |
worries for the poor people of the world. You voted to remain. When you | :55:25. | :55:30. | |
see events in the City of London and the governor of the Bank of England, | :55:31. | :55:33. | |
out to try to reassure the markets, what do you think? We knew there | :55:34. | :55:40. | |
would be a shock. It has been a double by me, with David Cameron | :55:41. | :55:45. | |
going as well. We need to stay strong and keep our resolve. The | :55:46. | :55:48. | |
markets have started to move back a bit. Tomorrow will paint a lot | :55:49. | :55:53. | |
different picture on the whole economy. On Saturday, the market | :55:54. | :55:59. | |
will be shut. When they reopen on Monday. It is a new day, the one | :56:00. | :56:05. | |
thing that we don't want to happen is to talk ourselves into recession | :56:06. | :56:10. | |
and talked ourselves down, we have to remain positive. The decision has | :56:11. | :56:18. | |
been made, I voted Remain for various reasons, but I am not | :56:19. | :56:24. | |
dismayed and the result. For me, I am going to get behind it in any way | :56:25. | :56:29. | |
I can, and look forward to a brighter future. The decision has | :56:30. | :56:34. | |
been made, let's get behind it, keep smiling and do the best we can. Do | :56:35. | :56:39. | |
you feel positive? Do you accept the result? I do accept the result, we | :56:40. | :56:46. | |
are in a democracy, there is a petition going around to overturn | :56:47. | :56:49. | |
it, I would be interested to see what happens with that. People say | :56:50. | :56:55. | |
it was not representative and it is too tight. It was a huge turnout, | :56:56. | :57:02. | |
72%! It is fascinating. We were at an industry event, we got up just in | :57:03. | :57:08. | |
time and we were really surprised. The one thing that had persuaded me | :57:09. | :57:14. | |
towards Leave was the idea that I and in a digital economy, it is very | :57:15. | :57:17. | |
global, and does geography matter that much? But I think there is | :57:18. | :57:23. | |
still something about geography and local history and being part of an | :57:24. | :57:29. | |
area that we have had relationships with for a long time. | :57:30. | :57:38. | |
Do you think that stops now? No, I don't think it stops now. That is | :57:39. | :57:45. | |
what I hope. I am hoping the kind of victory which has gone on with the | :57:46. | :57:49. | |
campaign, that people can leave that behind, and say, if this is where we | :57:50. | :57:54. | |
are going, we need to go there in a positive way. Thank you all of you. | :57:55. | :57:57. | |
More from Manchester a little bit later. Victoria Derbyshire, thank | :57:58. | :58:12. | |
you. The UK has voted to leave the European Union, in the most seismic | :58:13. | :58:18. | |
decision in generations. David Cameron has gone to see the Queen | :58:19. | :58:23. | |
after announcing that he will resign as Prime Minister. 52% of people who | :58:24. | :58:28. | |
voted made the momentous decision to leave the EU. The Prime Minister | :58:29. | :58:32. | |
earlier gave an emotional address explaining his decision to go. I | :58:33. | :58:37. | |
will do everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship over the | :58:38. | :58:41. | |
coming weeks and months. But I do not think it would be with tick for | :58:42. | :58:46. | |
me to try to be the captain that steers our country to its next | :58:47. | :58:51. | |
destination. -- I do not think it would be right for me. Boris Johnson | :58:52. | :58:55. | |
battles through a scrum of police and protesters before meeting with | :58:56. | :59:01. | |
his victorious fellow campaigners. And this is the scene at the Vote | :59:02. | :59:07. | |
Leave headquarters in London, where Mr Johnson is due to speak any | :59:08. | :59:10. | |
moment now. We will bring that to you live. Leave campaigners are | :59:11. | :59:19. | |
jubilant, saying it sends a stinging message to the European Union's | :59:20. | :59:23. | |
political elite. The pound plunges in the City. The financial markets | :59:24. | :59:27. | |
also fell sharply, with bank shares among those hit hardest. The | :59:28. | :59:31. | |
leadership debate in the Tory party has already begun after David | :59:32. | :59:36. | |
Cameron's announcement that he's going. But the repercussions of | :59:37. | :59:40. | |
yesterday's vote have rocked the whole of Westminster. What does it | :59:41. | :59:43. | |
mean for the Labour Party, and for Ukip as well? I will be talking to | :59:44. | :59:48. | |
various people about what happens next to British politics, the future | :59:49. | :59:52. | |
of the UK and the EU. Here in Manchester, we will talk to voters | :59:53. | :59:56. | |
about the momentous decision that some of them have made, and the | :59:57. | :00:00. | |
dramatic ramifications. There is really quite sombre mood in here now | :00:01. | :00:04. | |
after David Cameron's announcement, including from Leave voters. We will | :00:05. | :00:09. | |
be looking at the hopes and fears of the United Kingdom now. | :00:10. | :00:27. | |
Good morning from Downing Street. After more than 40 years, Britain | :00:28. | :00:33. | |
has voted to end its membership of the European Union. Vote was | :00:34. | :00:39. | |
decisive - 52% chose to leave the EU and 48% wanted to stay. David | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
Cameron has announced that he is to step down as Prime Minister, and | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
he's currently at the King and Palace for an audience with the | :00:48. | :00:50. | |
Queen. Mr Cameron, who argued strongly for the Remain campaign, | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
said the will of the people must be respect the, and fresh leadership | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
was required, with a new approach minister in place by October. Shots | :00:58. | :01:04. | |
of the Prime Minister's car travelling through central London. | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
Ukip's leader, Nigel Farage, has called the result Britain's | :01:08. | :01:13. | |
Independence Day. Boris Johnson was booed by some in the crowds outside | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
his home as he left this morning, cheered by others. We are expecting | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
to hear from him at a news conference in the next few minutes. | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
The final result shows that Leave secured its victory by a margin of | :01:29. | :01:32. | |
more than 1 million votes. In total, 17.4 million people voted for the UK | :01:33. | :01:37. | |
to leave the EU, compared with 16.1 million voters who backed Remain. | :01:38. | :01:44. | |
More than 72% of eligible voters took part. In England, more than 15 | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
million people voted for the UK to leave the European Union. 13.2 | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
million people backed Remain. In Scotland, every voting area came out | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
in favour of Remain. 62% of Scottish voters backed Remain, 38% backing | :01:59. | :02:04. | |
Leave. In Wales... In Northern Ireland, the only part | :02:05. | :02:22. | |
of the UK which shares a border with the European Union. That is how the | :02:23. | :02:29. | |
results across the UK locked this morning. We will of course continue | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
to discuss in great detail what it will mean for you, what it will mean | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
for the United Kingdom and also for the European Union. First, our | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
political correspondent Carole Walker has this report on the | :02:42. | :02:44. | |
dramatic events so far. There was no hiding the emotion as the Prime | :02:45. | :02:48. | |
Minister and his wife Samantha emerged from Downing Street. He said | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
the will of the British people must be respect to, and having fought and | :02:53. | :02:57. | |
lost the battle to remain in the EU, the country should have a new Prime | :02:58. | :03:05. | |
Minister. I fought this campaign in the only way I know how, which is to | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
say directly and passionately what I think and feel, head, heart and | :03:10. | :03:15. | |
soul. I held nothing back. But the British people have made a very | :03:16. | :03:18. | |
clear decision to take a different path. And as such, I think the | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction. I will do | :03:23. | :03:29. | |
everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship over the coming | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
weeks and months. But I do not think it would be right for me to try to | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
be the captain that steers our country to its next destination. | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
With turmoil and uncertainty in the financial markets, the Governor of | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
the Bank of England said it was prepared to take further action to | :03:47. | :03:49. | |
support the British economy if necessary. We have taken all the | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
necessary steps to prepare for today's events, and in the future, | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
we will not hesitate to take any additional measures required to meet | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
our responsibilities, as the United Kingdom goes forward. From the | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
moment the results started coming in just after midnight, there were big | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
wins from Leave. By the end of the night, Leave had won a clean sweep | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
across the north of England, the Midlands, the east and west of | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
England. London was the only region of England to support remaining a | :04:24. | :04:30. | |
member of the EU. The result in Flintshire reflected the outcome | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
across Wales, where voters backed Brexit. But Scotland voted by a | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
clear majority to stay in the EU. Scotland's First Minister said it | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
was clear that the people of Scotland see their future as part of | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
the European Union. The results will bring fresh calls for a second | :04:46. | :04:51. | |
referendum on Scottish independence. Northern Ireland, too, has voted to | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
remain in the EU. Sinn Fein has said it intensifies the case for a vote | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
on whether Northern Ireland should leave the United Kingdom. Shortly | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
before five o'clock this morning, it was clear - the UK had taken the | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
historic decision to leave the European Union. Well, at 20 minutes | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
to five, we can now say the decision taken in 1975 by this country to | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
join the Common Market has been reversed by this referendum to leave | :05:18. | :05:26. | |
the EU. Ukip's leader, Nigel Farage, said he was thrilled that the | :05:27. | :05:30. | |
country had decided to break free from what he called a failing, dying | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
European Union. 17 million people have said, we must leave the | :05:37. | :05:41. | |
European Union. We now need a Brexit government, a government which gets | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
on with the job, a government which begins the renegotiation of our | :05:46. | :05:48. | |
trade relationship. The Labour leader said he hopes the | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
negotiations with the European Union will include efforts to protect | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
British workers. Clearly there are some very difficult days ahead. The | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
value of the pound has already fallen. And there will therefore be | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
job consequences as a result of this decision. A momentous day for | :06:04. | :06:10. | |
Britain, for Europe, as the country embarks on a new and uncertain | :06:11. | :06:13. | |
future outside the EU and under a different leader. I am joined now by | :06:14. | :06:23. | |
our assistant political editor, Norman Smith. We have seen that | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
David Cameron has now left Buckingham Palace. He is driving | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
through central London, we do not know where to. Next, we are | :06:31. | :06:33. | |
expecting to hear from the leading Leave figure Boris Johnson, who | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
potentially could be taking up residence here? More than | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
potentially, perhaps likely to be taking up residence. He is | :06:42. | :06:44. | |
absolutely in pole position now. We will hear from him shortly. We have | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
not really heard an official response from the Leave side yet. We | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
have heard from Nigel Farage. Nigel Farage has been urging a quick | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
retreat from Europe. Everything we have heard from the official Leave | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
campaign is, let's not rush this. But I think we can go over now, as | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
we can see Jill is a Stuart -- as we can see Gisela Stuart, Boris Johnson | :07:09. | :07:16. | |
and Michael Gove. About a relationship of 40 years with the | :07:17. | :07:19. | |
European Union. It was the largest and most extensive democratic | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
exercise we have seen. And the people by a majority decided that | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
they wish to leave the European Union. Vote Leave is a cross-party | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
organisation. And we have always acted in a way which is in the | :07:31. | :07:37. | |
interests of the country and not in sectional interests. I think it is | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
now incumbent on all party leaders to also reflect on to what extent | :07:43. | :07:45. | |
they are representing and reflecting the views of the voters. This is the | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
most extraordinary opportunity of democracy. I think the process which | :07:50. | :07:56. | |
is beginning now, of implement in the wish of the people, will be seen | :07:57. | :08:03. | |
as not only freeing the United Kingdom, but also be in the | :08:04. | :08:10. | |
interests of Europe. We are still and always have been an | :08:11. | :08:12. | |
exceptionally outward looking country. We will continue to be so. | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
We will be a good neighbour, we will be a good international list, but we | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
will have taken back control of our democratic institutions. Thank you | :08:23. | :08:31. | |
very much. I want to begin this morning by paying tribute to David | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
Cameron, who spoke earlier from Downing Street. I know I speak for | :08:36. | :08:41. | |
Michael also in saying how sad I am that he has decided to step down, | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
but obviously, I respect that decision. I have known David Cameron | :08:46. | :08:52. | |
for a very long time, and I believe he has been one of the most | :08:53. | :08:54. | |
extraordinary politicians of our age. A brave and principled man, who | :08:55. | :09:00. | |
has given superb leadership of his party and his country for many | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
years. Reforming our public services, delivering one-nation | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
Conservative government, making this country the most dynamic economy in | :09:12. | :09:18. | |
Europe, and with his own brand of compassionate conservatism, that | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
rightly earned his party the first majority government for decades. It | :09:24. | :09:30. | |
was his bravery that gave this country the first referendum on the | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
European Union for 43 years, the first time that many of us have had | :09:35. | :09:37. | |
the chance to vote explicitly on this question. Today, I think all of | :09:38. | :09:46. | |
us politicians should thank the British people, because in a way, | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
they have been doing our job for us. They hire us to deal with the hard | :09:51. | :09:57. | |
questions, and this year, we gave them one of the biggest and toughest | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
questions of all. Some people are now saying, that was wrong, and that | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
the people should never have been asked in this way. I disagree. I | :10:08. | :10:16. | |
believe it was entirely right and inevitable, and indeed that there is | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
no way of dealing with a decision on this scale except I putting it to | :10:22. | :10:30. | |
the people. Because in the end, this question is about the people, it is | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
about the right of the people of this country to settle their own | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
destiny. It is about the very principles of our democracy - the | :10:37. | :10:43. | |
rights of all of us to elect and remove the people who make the key | :10:44. | :10:50. | |
decisions in their lives. And I think that the electorate have | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
searched in their hearts and answered as honestly as they can, | :10:56. | :11:01. | |
and as Gisela Stuart says, in a poll on a scale the like of which we have | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
never seen before in this country, they have decided that it is time to | :11:05. | :11:12. | |
vote to take back control. From a European Union which has becomes too | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
remote, too opaque, and not accountable enough to the people it | :11:18. | :11:24. | |
is meant to serve. In voting to leave the EU, it is vital to stress | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
that there's now no need for haste, and indeed, as the Prime Minister | :11:29. | :11:32. | |
has just said, nothing will change over the short term, except that | :11:33. | :11:39. | |
work will have to begin on how to give effect to the will of the | :11:40. | :11:51. | |
people, and to take this country from the supra-national system. And | :11:52. | :11:53. | |
as the Prime Minister has rightly said, there is no need to invoke | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
Article 50. To those people who may be anxious, this does not mean that | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
the United Kingdom will be in any way less united, nor indeed as it | :12:03. | :12:08. | |
mean that it will be any less European. And I want to speak to the | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
millions of people, directly to the millions of people who did not vote | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
for this outcome, especially young people, who may feel that this | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
decision in some way involves putting up a drawbridge witch any | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
kind of isolationism. Because I think the very opposite is true. | :12:28. | :12:36. | |
Our children and grandchildren will continue to have a great future as | :12:37. | :12:43. | |
Europeans, understanding the languages and cultures that make up | :12:44. | :12:49. | |
the European civilisation, interacting with people in other | :12:50. | :12:52. | |
countries in a way that is open, friendly and outward looking. I want | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
to reassure everybody that as a result of this, Britain will | :12:58. | :13:03. | |
continue to be a great European power, leading discussions on | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
foreign policy and defence and intelligence sharing and all of the | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
work that currently goes on to make our world safer. But there is no | :13:13. | :13:19. | |
need in the 21st-century to be part of a federal system of Government | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
based in Brussels that is imitated nowhere else on earth. It was a | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
noble idea for its time, it is no longer right for this country. It is | :13:30. | :13:37. | |
the essence of our case that young people in this country can look | :13:38. | :13:41. | |
forward to a more secure and more prosperous future if we take back | :13:42. | :13:49. | |
the Democratic control that is the foundation of our economic | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
prosperity. I believe we now have a glorious opportunity, we can pass | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
our laws and set our taxes entirely according to the needs of the UK | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
economy, we can control our own borders in a way that is not this | :14:05. | :14:10. | |
gourmet treat but fair and balanced, and take the wind out of the sails | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
of the extremists and those who would play politics with | :14:15. | :14:21. | |
immigration. Above all, we can find our voice in the world again. A | :14:22. | :14:27. | |
voice that is commensurate with the fifth biggest economy on earth. | :14:28. | :14:37. | |
Powerful, liberal, humane, and extraordinary force for good in the | :14:38. | :14:44. | |
world. The most precious thing this country has given our continent is | :14:45. | :14:52. | |
the idea of parliamentary democracy. This Thursday, yesterday, I believe | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
the British people have spoken up for democracy. In Britain and across | :14:58. | :15:05. | |
Europe. I think we can be very proud of the result. Thank you finally to | :15:06. | :15:15. | |
everybody at Vote Leave for the extraordinary and positive campaign | :15:16. | :15:17. | |
you have run. Thank you. I want to join race in paying | :15:18. | :15:30. | |
tribute to the Prime Minister. He has led this country with courage, | :15:31. | :15:36. | |
the glitzy and grace. He and the Chancellor rebuild our economy. He | :15:37. | :15:40. | |
has made opportunity more equal in our society. He has exemplified the | :15:41. | :15:45. | |
best in public service, he deserves to be remembered as a great Prime | :15:46. | :15:51. | |
Minister. He called this referendum so the British people could decide | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
one big question. Should we leave the political structures of the | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
European Union? The British people have given us all a very clear | :16:02. | :16:08. | |
instruction, and I know that we in politics will work calmly, | :16:09. | :16:12. | |
cooperatively and consensually to implement that instruction. The | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
British people's vote to leave is the start of a process. While the | :16:18. | :16:23. | |
process is ongoing our existing trading relationships with the U and | :16:24. | :16:26. | |
the rest of the world will continue as before. In the coming days | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
Government ministers and officials can meet to decide the next steps. | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
Officials and diplomats can start scoping out the broad parameters for | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
full-scale talks with our European friends and the institutions in | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
Brussels. Our shared mission is clear, securing the best possible | :16:47. | :16:49. | |
terms for Britain. Informal discussions should proceed the | :16:50. | :16:57. | |
formal negotiations. The changes will be a process of gradual | :16:58. | :17:02. | |
divergences. It is important that representatives from every part of | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
the UK, every community, and different political traditions, are | :17:08. | :17:10. | |
involved in shaping our future. We should draw wisdom from great minds | :17:11. | :17:16. | |
outside politics. As we move forward, we should be in no doubt | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
that Britain is embarking on a new chapter, but one that is in line | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
with our best traditions. We have always been an open, inclusive, | :17:26. | :17:31. | |
tolerant, creative and generous nation. Open for business, open to | :17:32. | :17:37. | |
trade, open to other cultures, open to the world. Now we have a new | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
chance to extend that openness is even further. We can build a new, | :17:43. | :17:47. | |
stronger and more positive relationship with our EU neighbours, | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
based on free trade and friendly cooperation. We can have democratic | :17:52. | :17:57. | |
consent for an immigration policy that is fairer and more humane. We | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
can demonstrate that our progressive liberal and democratic traditions | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
are being renewed and that we stand with all our allies as resolute as | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
ever against intolerance and oppression. We can take our place as | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
a self-governing democracy alongside other great nations, working for | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
greater global development, security and prosperity. We can now calmly | :18:22. | :18:28. | |
and United take our country forward in the spirit of the warm, humane | :18:29. | :18:35. | |
and generous values that are the best of Britain. | :18:36. | :18:43. | |
Michael Gove, Boris Johnson and. Calm, measured, almost sombre, what | :18:44. | :19:01. | |
did you make of it? They know this has been a divisive contest. It has | :19:02. | :19:09. | |
split the country, so one's the message was one of reassurance and | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
binding together. Boris Johnson went out of his way to reassure young | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
people, it says, it does not mean we are turning our back on Europe. | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
Likewise to those who say he has banned the flames of intolerance, he | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
said, by voting to leave, it will take the wind out of the sale of the | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
extremists and those who play politics with the issue of | :19:32. | :19:34. | |
immigration, stressing that nothing will change in the short-term. | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
Article 50 does not need to be triggered automatically. The message | :19:39. | :19:45. | |
was to sound statesman-like, sombre, sober, and to try to reassure people | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
that there is a brighter future and to calm the understandable fears | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
many will have. And saying that Britain will continue to be a great | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
European power. He has always argued that we will have much more cordial | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
relations with the rest of Europe when we feel more self-confident in | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
ourselves, when we are less the reluctant and embittered parts of | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
the EU. He believes we will reshape the way in which the whole of Europe | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
operates, that is part of his pitch. The president of the European | :20:22. | :20:29. | |
Commission is speaking in Brussels. All rights and all obligations that | :20:30. | :20:35. | |
arrive from this, according to the treaties which the United Kingdom | :20:36. | :20:41. | |
has ratified, the EU look at it is to apply to the UK until it is no | :20:42. | :20:51. | |
longer a member. As agreed, the new settlement for the UK within the EU | :20:52. | :21:01. | |
will now not take effect. It ceases to exist. There will be no | :21:02. | :21:10. | |
renegotiation. As regards the United Kingdom, we have to have it as a | :21:11. | :21:15. | |
close partner of the European Union in the future. We expect the United | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
Kingdom to formulate its proposals in this respect. This will be | :21:21. | :21:29. | |
included with the UK as a third country, we will have to reflect | :21:30. | :21:35. | |
both sides and be balanced in terms of rights and obligations. I will | :21:36. | :21:40. | |
take two questions. TRANSLATION: Referring to the Franco | :21:41. | :22:12. | |
German driving force of the EU, what do you expect from that now over the | :22:13. | :22:20. | |
next few days? It is called the driving force, I expect France and | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
Germany to take a clear position... We believe that there, speaking in | :22:24. | :22:30. | |
Brussels, because we will go straight to Scotland's First | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
Minister. Scotland, like London and Northern | :22:34. | :22:37. | |
Ireland, voted overwhelmingly to remain in the European Union. We | :22:38. | :22:43. | |
voted to protect our place in the world's biggest single market and | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
the jobs and investment that depend on it. We voted to safeguard our | :22:48. | :22:53. | |
freedom to travel, live, work and study in other European countries, | :22:54. | :23:00. | |
and we voted to renew our reputation as an outward looking, open and | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
inclusive country. It is significant in my view that we did so after a | :23:05. | :23:12. | |
campaign that was positive about the EU and about the benefits of | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
migration. Indeed, I want to take the opportunity to speak directly to | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
citizens of other European countries living here in Scotland. You remain | :23:22. | :23:29. | |
welcome here, Scotland is your home, and your contribution is valued. | :23:30. | :23:37. | |
Unfortunately, yesterday's result in Scotland was not echoed across the | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
whole of the United Kingdom. The UK wide vote to leave the EU is one | :23:42. | :23:47. | |
that I deeply regret. It remains my passionate belief that it is better | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
for all parts of the UK to be members of the European Union. But | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
the vote across England and Wales was a rejection of the EU, and it | :23:56. | :24:02. | |
was a sign of divergences between Scotland and large parts of the rest | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
of the UK in how we see our place in the world. This vote was not just | :24:07. | :24:11. | |
about the EU it was also a clear expression of the disaffection with | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
the political system that is felt in too many communities. Kim and it is | :24:18. | :24:21. | |
taken for granted by Labour for generations and punished with | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
austerity cuts by the Tories for a financial crisis they did not cause, | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
they'd used this referendum to make their voices heard. The Westminster | :24:31. | :24:33. | |
establishment has some serious, soul-searching to do. I hope very | :24:34. | :24:40. | |
much that it now does it. As First Minister of Scotland I have a duty | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
to respond not just to the outcome across the UK but also and in | :24:45. | :24:48. | |
particular to the democratic decision taken by the people of | :24:49. | :24:54. | |
Scotland. As things stand, Scotland faces the prospect of being taken | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
out of the EU against our will. I regard that as democratically | :25:00. | :25:07. | |
unacceptable. Of course, we face the prospect less than two years after | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
being told that it was our own referendum on independence that | :25:13. | :25:15. | |
would end a woman bishop of the EU and that only a rejection of | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
independence could protect it. For many people, the supposed guarantee | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
of remaining in the EU was a driver in their decision to vote to stay | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
within the UK. There is no doubt that yesterday's result represents a | :25:30. | :25:36. | |
significant and material change of the circumstances in which Scotland | :25:37. | :25:40. | |
voted against independence in 2014. My job now is to act responsibly and | :25:41. | :25:49. | |
in the interests of all of Scotland, and that is what I intend to do. The | :25:50. | :25:54. | |
Cabinet will meet tomorrow morning to discuss our next steps in more | :25:55. | :25:59. | |
detail, but I want to set out some immediate priorities. First, we have | :26:00. | :26:05. | |
an urgent job to do to provide as much reassurance and certainty as we | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
can. I spoke a short while ago to the governor of the Bank of England | :26:10. | :26:13. | |
to discuss his plans to reassure the markets and restore financial | :26:14. | :26:17. | |
stability. Starting this afternoon ministers will be engaged in | :26:18. | :26:21. | |
discussions with key stakeholders, especially in the business can | :26:22. | :26:25. | |
imitate, to emphasise that as of now we are still firmly in the EU, trade | :26:26. | :26:30. | |
and business should continue as normal, and we are determined | :26:31. | :26:33. | |
Scotland should continue now and in the future to be an attractive and | :26:34. | :26:38. | |
stable place to do business. A resilient committee will meet this | :26:39. | :26:40. | |
afternoon to oversee these immediate actions. Secondly, I want to make it | :26:41. | :26:47. | |
absolutely clear today that I intend to take all possible steps and | :26:48. | :26:54. | |
explore all options to give effect to how people in Scotland voted. In | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
other words, to secure our continuing place in the TEU and in | :27:00. | :27:05. | |
the single market in particular. To that end, I have made clear to the | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
Prime Minister that the Scottish Government must be fully and | :27:10. | :27:13. | |
directly involved in any and all decisions about the next steps that | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
the UK Government intends to take. We will also be seeking direct | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
discussions with the EU institutions and its member states including the | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
earliest possible meeting with the president of the European | :27:28. | :27:30. | |
Commission. I will also be communicating over this weekend with | :27:31. | :27:33. | |
each EU member state to make clear that Scotland has voted to stay in | :27:34. | :27:39. | |
the EU, and I intend to discuss all options for doing so. I should say | :27:40. | :27:45. | |
that I have also spoken with Sadiq Khan, and he is clear he shares this | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
objective for London. There is clear common cause between us. The | :27:51. | :27:55. | |
discussions that take place over the coming days and weeks will be led by | :27:56. | :28:00. | |
Government, but I would seek the support and ensure the involvement | :28:01. | :28:03. | |
of the Scottish Parliament at every step of the way. I intend to speak | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
to all party leaders later today and make a full statement to the chamber | :28:08. | :28:12. | |
on Tuesday. I will make a further statement following tomorrow's | :28:13. | :28:13. | |
meeting of the Scottish Cabinet. I will also make a further statement | :28:14. | :28:23. | |
following tomorrow's meeting. Lastly, let me address the | :28:24. | :28:47. | |
of a second independence referendum. The manifesto that the MS SNP was | :28:48. | :28:51. | |
elected on last month said this - the Scottish Parliament should have | :28:52. | :28:53. | |
the right to hold another referendum is there is a significant and | :28:54. | :28:56. | |
material change in the circumstances which prevailed in 2014, such as | :28:57. | :28:58. | |
Scotland being taken out of the EU against our will. Scotland does now | :28:59. | :29:01. | |
face that prospect. It is a significant and material change in | :29:02. | :29:03. | |
circumstances. It is therefore a statement of the obvious but the | :29:04. | :29:05. | |
option of a second referendum must be on the table. And it is on the | :29:06. | :29:08. | |
table. Clearly, though, there are many discussions to be heard before | :29:09. | :29:12. | |
a final decision can be taken. It would not be right to rush to | :29:13. | :29:17. | |
judgment ahead of discussions on how Scotland's result would be responded | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
to by the EU. However, when the article 50 process is triggered in | :29:22. | :29:25. | |
three months' time, the UK will be on a two-year path to the EU exit | :29:26. | :29:30. | |
door. If Parliament judges that a second referendum is the best or | :29:31. | :29:33. | |
only way to protect our place in Europe, it must have the option to | :29:34. | :29:39. | |
hold one within that timescale. That means we must act now to protect | :29:40. | :29:42. | |
that position. I can therefore confirm today that in order to | :29:43. | :29:48. | |
protect that position, we will begin to prepare the legislation that | :29:49. | :29:52. | |
would be required to enable a new independent referendum to take place | :29:53. | :30:00. | |
if and when elements so decides. To conclude, this is not a situation | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
that I wanted Scotland or the UK to be in today. My responsibility, in a | :30:04. | :30:09. | |
climate of uncertainty, is to seek to lead us forward with purpose. I | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
know that there is a lot of thinking and talking to be done in the period | :30:16. | :30:20. | |
that lies ahead, and before final decisions are taken. The issues that | :30:21. | :30:25. | |
we face our context. There are many people who voted against | :30:26. | :30:31. | |
independence in 2014 who are today reassessing their decision. Indeed, | :30:32. | :30:37. | |
a very large number of them have contacted me already. However, I | :30:38. | :30:40. | |
know that they will not want me to simply assume their support or to | :30:41. | :30:45. | |
hear me talk about the challenges we face as if they are straightforward. | :30:46. | :30:48. | |
They will want me to be straight and honest with them. Now is the time | :30:49. | :30:54. | |
for me, as First Minister, to do everything I can to bring people | :30:55. | :30:59. | |
together in common cause and to seek to lead our country forward as one. | :31:00. | :31:04. | |
The need to act decisively must be tempered with the need to build | :31:05. | :31:08. | |
consensus, and it will be. That is my duty as First Minister. After a | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
campaign which has been characterised in the rest of the UK | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
by fear and hate, my priority in the days, weeks and months ahead, will | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
be to act at all times in the best interest of Scotland, and in a way | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
which unites, not divides us. Let me be clear about this - whatever | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
happens as a result of this outcome, England, Wales and Northern Ireland | :31:31. | :31:34. | |
will always be Scotland's closest neighbours and our best friends. | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
Nothing will ever change that. But I want to leave no-one in any doubt | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
about this - I am crowd of Scotland and how we voted yesterday. We | :31:44. | :31:49. | |
proved that we are a modern, outward looking, open and inclusive country, | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
and we said clearly that we do not want to leave the European Union. I | :31:54. | :31:57. | |
am determined that we will do what it takes to make sure that these | :31:58. | :32:05. | |
aspirations are realised. In closing, do me just say a word or | :32:06. | :32:08. | |
two about the Prime Minister. David Cameron and I have very many | :32:09. | :32:15. | |
political disagreements, not least over the conduct of this referendum. | :32:16. | :32:21. | |
But as I am learning every single day, leadership is not easy. David | :32:22. | :32:26. | |
has been the Prime Minister of the UK for six years. It is a tough job. | :32:27. | :32:33. | |
And whatever our disagreements, he deserves our thanks for his service. | :32:34. | :32:36. | |
I wish him and his family well for the future. I am happy to take some | :32:37. | :32:46. | |
questions. If not an independence referendum, what other options are | :32:47. | :32:52. | |
available to you? I think an independence referendum is now | :32:53. | :32:54. | |
highly likely, but I also think it is important that we take time to | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
consider all steps, and to have the discussions, not least to assess the | :32:59. | :33:04. | |
response of the European Union to the vote that Scotland expressed | :33:05. | :33:11. | |
yesterday. I am absolutely determined in my responsibility to | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
give effect to how Scotland voted yesterday, and it is important that | :33:16. | :33:19. | |
I take all steps to make sure that we look at all options to do exactly | :33:20. | :33:24. | |
that. Is that independence referendum that you say is highly | :33:25. | :33:27. | |
likely, will not go ahead with or without the consent of Westminster, | :33:28. | :33:32. | |
because you had consent the last time? Obviously, we would seek to | :33:33. | :33:36. | |
follow the same president that we did last time. But I think in the | :33:37. | :33:39. | |
circumstances, when the Scottish Parliament decides that that is an | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
option which it wants to exercise, I think it would be inconceivable, | :33:44. | :33:47. | |
particularly in the circumstances which have given rise to this, that | :33:48. | :33:50. | |
the UK Government would seek to stand in its way. These are some of | :33:51. | :33:53. | |
the discussions that we would be seeking to have in the days and | :33:54. | :33:59. | |
weeks ahead. First Minister, you say you want Scotland to remain in the | :34:00. | :34:04. | |
EU. You say that to do that, you are likely to propose a referendum. The | :34:05. | :34:08. | |
rest of the UK will be out of the EU. That must mean there will be | :34:09. | :34:13. | |
aboard, a proper, border between Scotland and England. These are | :34:14. | :34:17. | |
issues which we will have to assess and consider calmly and rationally. | :34:18. | :34:21. | |
That's why I have said very, very clearly in my remarks today that I | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
am not going to stand here and pretend to anybody that the issues | :34:27. | :34:29. | |
we face are straightforward. We face many competitions, which is another | :34:30. | :34:35. | |
reason why, in addition to being determined about giving effect to | :34:36. | :34:38. | |
how Scotland voted, I'm going to take the time to make sure that all | :34:39. | :34:43. | |
Scotland considers one of these issues and has the chance to move | :34:44. | :34:47. | |
forward as one. I think that is of the utmost importance at this time. | :34:48. | :34:54. | |
Are you confident that in the potential turmoil which could follow | :34:55. | :34:57. | |
a Brexit, that those are circumstances in which Scotland WILL | :34:58. | :35:03. | |
want to vote for independence? Can I say, I do not want to see turmoil in | :35:04. | :35:08. | |
any part of the United Kingdom. I believe the decision which was taken | :35:09. | :35:12. | |
across the UK yesterday was the wrong decision, a mistake. I hope | :35:13. | :35:16. | |
very much that some of the fears which were had about it are not | :35:17. | :35:20. | |
realised, because it would not be in the interests of people anywhere in | :35:21. | :35:25. | |
the UK if they are. But I'm not sure that is not more in hope than | :35:26. | :35:30. | |
expectation. But it is exactly because of the uncertainty and the | :35:31. | :35:34. | |
potential turmoil which we face that I think it is in my responsibility | :35:35. | :35:38. | |
to seek to bring Scotland together, to lead Scotland forward into a | :35:39. | :35:42. | |
position which allows us to continue with the stability and certainty | :35:43. | :35:47. | |
that membership of the European Union gives us. I am not saying that | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
these issues are straightforward, but I do think it is the | :35:52. | :35:54. | |
responsibility and indeed the opportunity which lies before us. | :35:55. | :35:57. | |
Presumably, you don't want to risk losing another referendum - when the | :35:58. | :36:04. | |
polls tell you you are almost certain to win it, you will call it, | :36:05. | :36:09. | |
so what level of support in the polls do you need? My guiding | :36:10. | :36:12. | |
principle in every decision I take over the coming weeks and months | :36:13. | :36:16. | |
will be what I judged to be in the best interests not of the SNP or of | :36:17. | :36:20. | |
me as First Minister but of Scotland. That is the responsibility | :36:21. | :36:24. | |
I have, and that is how I will guide every decision. You just said the | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
vote shows that Scotland is forward looking. Does it follow, then, that | :36:30. | :36:34. | |
England and Wales are backward looking? The decision which was | :36:35. | :36:38. | |
taken in other parts of the UK is a decision which people took | :36:39. | :36:40. | |
democratically, after much consideration. It is a decision I | :36:41. | :36:46. | |
deeply disagreed with alkali respect the decision which has been taken. I | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
said during the campaign that I believed it was important to protect | :36:51. | :36:52. | |
our position in the European Union and in the wider world as an outward | :36:53. | :36:57. | |
looking and inclusive country. I think that is what got them voted | :36:58. | :37:01. | |
for yesterday and that is what I want to protect. Article 50 - your | :37:02. | :37:06. | |
predecessor, Alex Salmond, says he thinks it is absolutely crucial... | :37:07. | :37:13. | |
We are going to leave that now, because we're going to go straight | :37:14. | :37:16. | |
to Germany, where the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, has been | :37:17. | :37:19. | |
giving her reaction. She has expressed her great regret that the | :37:20. | :37:30. | |
decision to UK has taken. TRANSLATION: What the day off today | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
means for the next few weeks and months and years will also did hand | :37:34. | :37:39. | |
on whether we, the remaining 27 member states of the European Union, | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
show our willingness and ability in this situation not to be too hasty | :37:45. | :37:51. | |
and come to hasty decisions out of returns except decision, which would | :37:52. | :37:57. | |
further intensify the rifts in Europe. Instead, we have two remain | :37:58. | :38:06. | |
calm and composed. We need to make composed and calm analyses and | :38:07. | :38:13. | |
decisions. In doing so, we need to make sure that firstly, Europe is | :38:14. | :38:25. | |
varied, and as varied as the people of Europe are, their expectations to | :38:26. | :38:29. | |
the European Union are also varied. Time and time again, we are | :38:30. | :38:32. | |
confronted with people who have doubts as regards the direction that | :38:33. | :38:35. | |
the European integration process has taken. That does not only refer to | :38:36. | :38:42. | |
break written, but in some extent or other, to other countries as well. | :38:43. | :38:46. | |
-- to Great Britain. So we have to make sure that European citizens can | :38:47. | :38:52. | |
feel how the European Union can actually make a contribution for the | :38:53. | :38:55. | |
improvement of the lives of the citizens. That is a task or the | :38:56. | :39:00. | |
European institutions, but also for the individual member states. | :39:01. | :39:07. | |
Secondly, in a world that continually integrates, the | :39:08. | :39:13. | |
challenges are far too large in order to make sure that individual | :39:14. | :39:18. | |
states can tackle these challenges. The European Union is one of the | :39:19. | :39:22. | |
largest economic areas of the world. It needs to understand itself as a | :39:23. | :39:30. | |
partner that is accompanying globalisation and is able and | :39:31. | :39:32. | |
willing to shape the globalisation process. It is a unique society and | :39:33. | :39:40. | |
community of values and ethics, and it is a guarantor of stability. It | :39:41. | :39:46. | |
is only in this fashion that we can guarantee our ideas, our interests, | :39:47. | :39:52. | |
be it social interests, be it ecologically interests, be it | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
foreign policy interests and defence policies, it is only then that we | :39:57. | :40:04. | |
can actually maintain our ideas. Thirdly, we have to draw our | :40:05. | :40:10. | |
conclusions of the European exit decision with historical dimensions. | :40:11. | :40:15. | |
It may be hard to imagine, but we should never forget, especially in | :40:16. | :40:19. | |
these days and hours, that the idea of European unity is the idea of | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
European peace, after centuries of terrible bloodshed. The founding | :40:25. | :40:32. | |
fathers of the European Union found a path which they enshrined these | :40:33. | :40:40. | |
ideas in, in the Rome treaties, nearly 60 years ago. This is, and | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
will remain in the future, something which is not to be taken for | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
granted. We all see that this world is a world in turmoil. In Europe, we | :40:49. | :40:56. | |
still feel the effects of riots, of unrest and of walls, wars which have | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
cost the lives of so many people, and war la which have evict it so | :41:02. | :41:05. | |
many people from their countries. Germany has a specific interest and | :41:06. | :41:12. | |
also a specific responsibility for the European integration to succeed. | :41:13. | :41:20. | |
Hence, I invited the French president, Francois Hollande, and | :41:21. | :41:28. | |
Donald Tusk and the Italian Prime Minister, to come to Berlin for | :41:29. | :41:34. | |
talks on Wednesday next week. We're going to increase the circle, in | :41:35. | :41:39. | |
order to make our discussions more profound in Brussels. For a member | :41:40. | :41:48. | |
to leave the European Union, we have a clearly designed process. This | :41:49. | :41:57. | |
process envisages many-year negotiations which are to deal with | :41:58. | :42:04. | |
the various aspects of Great Britain leaving the European Union. While | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
these negotiations take place, which Britain remains a member of the | :42:09. | :42:12. | |
European Union. All rights and obligations which are a result of | :42:13. | :42:14. | |
the membership will still be in effect until the mentorship is | :42:15. | :42:20. | |
totally removed. That remains in place for all parties. Our objective | :42:21. | :42:29. | |
should be to design our co-operation and our partnership with Britain as | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
closely as possible. One of our main focus areas for the federal | :42:34. | :42:37. | |
government will be the European citizens and their safety and their | :42:38. | :42:41. | |
prosperity. Ladies and gentlemen, the European Union is strong enough | :42:42. | :42:46. | |
in order to find the right answers to today. | :42:47. | :42:52. | |
STUDIO: She greatly regret the UK decision to leave the European | :42:53. | :42:59. | |
Union, she says. She calls for calm and said as important to stay calm | :43:00. | :43:03. | |
and composed. Let's get some more reaction now from Andrew Neil on | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
College Green. Thanks, I'm joined by John | :43:09. | :43:18. | |
Nicholson, SNP MP and Boris Johnson's father. John Nicholson, | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
Scotland voted to stay by a pretty big majority. England has voted to | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
Leave, the overwhelming votes mean the UK will leave as a whole. What | :43:28. | :43:31. | |
would be the argument against another referendum on independence? | :43:32. | :43:35. | |
I can't think of one off the top of my head. If you remember, during the | :43:36. | :43:39. | |
independence referendum, of course you do because it covered closely, | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
we were told repeatedly that if we voted for independence we would be | :43:45. | :43:48. | |
out of the European Union, but if we voted against independence, it would | :43:49. | :43:52. | |
guarantee our membership. That argument has collapsed with the vote | :43:53. | :43:57. | |
yesterday and we cannot, it seems to me, be dragged out of the EU at | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
against our will. So there will be another Scottish referendum? Highly | :44:03. | :44:11. | |
likely, yes. Why not certain? Clearly, we've got to react calmly | :44:12. | :44:15. | |
to this. We've got to talk to the other political leaders in Scotland, | :44:16. | :44:19. | |
it would be ideal if we could move forward with a degree of consensus. | :44:20. | :44:24. | |
The better together leaders, Labour and Conservative Lib Dem leaders, | :44:25. | :44:27. | |
all promised us this would not happen, so I'm interested in hearing | :44:28. | :44:31. | |
what they have to say this afternoon because clearly they misled the | :44:32. | :44:37. | |
Scottish people. They believed we would stay in the European Union. | :44:38. | :44:42. | |
What's their reaction to this? I'm sure we'll find out. You called for | :44:43. | :44:48. | |
independence for London? That was a bit of a joke. My line was to fight | :44:49. | :44:58. | |
for environmental features, to feature in the referendum. We did | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
not succeed, because I was worried last night. We believe that we jolly | :45:03. | :45:06. | |
well got to make sure whatever follows, we do preserve the vital | :45:07. | :45:12. | |
environmental gains we've had from 40 years of Europe and we look to | :45:13. | :45:18. | |
the future as well. Yes, I think it's a day we recognise as a day... | :45:19. | :45:28. | |
You lost. The country has voted. We had a fantastic exercise of | :45:29. | :45:34. | |
democracy. 32 million people. You rejoice? What would you have done if | :45:35. | :45:39. | |
you had one? Climbing up the top of the tower. Will your son be the next | :45:40. | :45:44. | |
Prime Minister? I hope he will put his name forward as one of the | :45:45. | :45:47. | |
possible candidates. He would need to be selected by the MPs. That's | :45:48. | :45:54. | |
the way it goes. I think he stands a chance. If he delivers 17 million | :45:55. | :46:04. | |
votes for Leave he'll have a chance. He's very popular in the Tory party, | :46:05. | :46:08. | |
in the country. If he makes the short list, which is then determined | :46:09. | :46:12. | |
by the Tory party, not the MPs, he wins, I would have thought. I hope | :46:13. | :46:17. | |
it takes good notice of the environmental issue. Not that I'm | :46:18. | :46:24. | |
going to go on about this. These are the crucial issues we need to look | :46:25. | :46:27. | |
ahead. As we rebuild this relationship. John Nicholson, I take | :46:28. | :46:33. | |
the point about Scotland being voting to go a different way and the | :46:34. | :46:38. | |
case for a second referendum but are you sure you would win? For example, | :46:39. | :46:45. | |
if we're talking of a situation where an independent Scotland is a | :46:46. | :46:49. | |
member of the EU, and the rest of the UK, particularly England, is | :46:50. | :46:53. | |
not, you'll almost certainly having to take the euro because you would | :46:54. | :46:57. | |
not allowed to be part of a London based monetary union? That's | :46:58. | :47:04. | |
certainly one possibility, a separate Scottish currency pegged to | :47:05. | :47:08. | |
the Euro or the pound. On the question or not we would win, but my | :47:09. | :47:13. | |
constituency, East Dunbartonshire voted very heavily for the EU last | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
night, the third-largest in the country, and also voted heavily | :47:19. | :47:21. | |
against independence, so let me tell you my personal experience on the | :47:22. | :47:25. | |
doors, when I go round campaigning, to people voting against | :47:26. | :47:29. | |
independence, I quite often hear people tell me that where the UK to | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
vote against the European Union, they would change their views on | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
independence. I'm talking about businessmen, for example. You're not | :47:39. | :47:44. | |
going to have this referendum until probably towards the end of the | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
decade. While the Article 50 is being triggered. Before 2020, it | :47:50. | :47:54. | |
could be a condition, membership you would have to accept the euro, 90% | :47:55. | :47:58. | |
of Scottish exports coming to England, you would be trading in a | :47:59. | :48:03. | |
foreign currency, a currency risk, oil prices may not have recovered, | :48:04. | :48:09. | |
there may well be a border between Carlisle and England, it may not | :48:10. | :48:15. | |
well be an easy and argument as you think this morning. I haven't said | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
it an easy argument. These are political battles we have two face | :48:20. | :48:23. | |
still, but I get a sense, instinct is people are waking up this morning | :48:24. | :48:31. | |
and astonished at the result. In Scotland, people didn't focus on how | :48:32. | :48:34. | |
English voters were going to behave in this referendum and I think a lot | :48:35. | :48:37. | |
of Scottish voters are going to be very surprised at this result. | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
Stanley Johnson, has signed taken as side of one union and then to lead | :48:42. | :48:50. | |
to the destruction of another union known as the United Kingdom? Let's | :48:51. | :48:55. | |
take one step at a time. I've just listened to as press conference, I | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
thought was a statement like press conference and the statement he made | :49:00. | :49:02. | |
I thought was full of wisdom and maturity. What is the answer to my | :49:03. | :49:07. | |
question? The answer is, I do not know for one moment, with great | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
respect, imagine we will move towards a referendum in Scotland | :49:13. | :49:19. | |
which comes to a Yes Vote. Although I see the resurgence of the Tory | :49:20. | :49:23. | |
party in Scotland, combined with the low oil price, which means you | :49:24. | :49:28. | |
simply won't get that. We had better leave it there. And argument for | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
another day and not a day will be coming, I suspect. Back to Sophie in | :49:33. | :49:36. | |
Downing Street. Andrew, thank you very much. Of | :49:37. | :49:42. | |
course, the decision taken by the British people yesterday but has all | :49:43. | :49:46. | |
kinds of implications and all kinds of questions about what happens | :49:47. | :49:50. | |
next. Clive Coleman is with me. Talk us through the very simple practical | :49:51. | :49:56. | |
steps that will happen over the next few months. Absolutely, it comes | :49:57. | :50:02. | |
under Article 50 of the Treaty of the European Union, pretty view, it | :50:03. | :50:05. | |
only came into force under the Lisbon Treaty, since December 2009. | :50:06. | :50:11. | |
There is no route map. It does not set down a strict timetable or a | :50:12. | :50:14. | |
series of things that have to happen. What has to happen at the | :50:15. | :50:17. | |
British Government has do inform the president of the European Council | :50:18. | :50:23. | |
that we intend to leave. Once that is done, the clock starts ticking | :50:24. | :50:28. | |
and within that period, two years, at the end of that period, we are | :50:29. | :50:33. | |
out, no longer a member of the EU. Unless that period is extended and | :50:34. | :50:37. | |
as to be extended by agreement. Within that period, an agreement can | :50:38. | :50:40. | |
be done in a number of ways. Either it can be done between the UK and EU | :50:41. | :50:47. | |
as a which seems likely, but it is possible you can have what is known | :50:48. | :50:51. | |
as a mixed agreement, if individual member states face specific | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
budgetary implications, then you can have a deal but in the UK on the one | :50:56. | :51:00. | |
hand and the EU and individual member states on the other. If that | :51:01. | :51:04. | |
did happen, that would prolong this process your and the two years. The | :51:05. | :51:09. | |
other option, of course, there is no agreement and after two years, we | :51:10. | :51:14. | |
simply leave the EU, big, any third party state, negotiating with the | :51:15. | :51:19. | |
EU. One important thing to mention is that this negotiation, this | :51:20. | :51:23. | |
agreement we are hoping to conclude within two years, is the basic | :51:24. | :51:27. | |
divorce settlement if I can put it in that way. It does not necessarily | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
mean the trade deal will be done and dusted within that period full so it | :51:32. | :51:35. | |
might be but trade deals are notoriously lengthy and difficult | :51:36. | :51:39. | |
things to conclude so sometimes it takes two decades so there's no | :51:40. | :51:42. | |
guarantee by the end of that two-year period, we haven't deal on | :51:43. | :51:46. | |
trade, on the free movement of goods, the deal will be the basic | :51:47. | :51:50. | |
divorce settlement and may include those things and it may not. OK, | :51:51. | :51:55. | |
thank you very much. We go now live to Brussels because Europe of course | :51:56. | :51:59. | |
have been reacting with shock to the boat to leave. Matthew is in | :52:00. | :52:08. | |
Brussels for us -- vote very interesting listening to what Clive | :52:09. | :52:13. | |
were saying they about Article 50. Jean-Claude Juncker has been talking | :52:14. | :52:17. | |
and saying he suspected the decision but goes on to say any delay would | :52:18. | :52:21. | |
unnecessarily prolong uncertainty and we have the rules to deal with | :52:22. | :52:25. | |
this in an orderly way. Let's speak to two NEPs who are here. Thank you | :52:26. | :52:35. | |
for joining us here. Your reaction? It's a big disappointment. I still | :52:36. | :52:40. | |
hoped reason would prevail and the UK would remain part of the EU. I | :52:41. | :52:44. | |
respect the will of the majority of Britishisms, and I think they should | :52:45. | :52:49. | |
have a wake-up call to European decision-makers on the continent as | :52:50. | :52:52. | |
well because, let's face it, Euroscepticism is not specific to | :52:53. | :52:55. | |
the UK and if an increasing number of our citizens grow disenfranchised | :52:56. | :53:00. | |
with a European project, it means something is wrong. Before we came | :53:01. | :53:05. | |
on, you said there was anger as well. In your view, aimed at David | :53:06. | :53:10. | |
Cameron? Absolutely. He behaved totally responsibly and now, after | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
creating this mess, leaving it to others to clean it up is utterly | :53:15. | :53:22. | |
irresponsible. I do not believe this is traditional British leadership. | :53:23. | :53:24. | |
We've seen British leaders of quality in the past, and I won't | :53:25. | :53:32. | |
miss him. You set an interesting thing, Beatrix, as a German, you | :53:33. | :53:38. | |
would've voted Remain but British, voted Leave. Explain that. We are | :53:39. | :53:44. | |
losing the second-biggest player, so I guess it's probably not Greece or | :53:45. | :53:48. | |
Italy to pay them what is lacking, but I think it might be a sad day | :53:49. | :53:53. | |
for the European Union institutions but good day for Europe. Europe is | :53:54. | :53:59. | |
based on sovereign democracies and sovereign states and the people have | :54:00. | :54:02. | |
made clear they don't want to have a closer union for the best political | :54:03. | :54:05. | |
concept does fail, people don't support it and the parties speaking | :54:06. | :54:09. | |
out that way I gaining ground and I think this is good. I think this was | :54:10. | :54:15. | |
a good day today. Was this the moment when close integration | :54:16. | :54:21. | |
screeches to a halt in terms of that contagion, the domino effect? Is | :54:22. | :54:24. | |
that a real buzz ability? A referendum is a real prospect. Why | :54:25. | :54:30. | |
not ask the people in all the countries covered do you support the | :54:31. | :54:34. | |
idea of the EU? Every time you have the possibility to decide, that was | :54:35. | :54:38. | |
the Netherlands, Ireland, France, people voted against full it only | :54:39. | :54:42. | |
the elite parliament voting in pushing forward the whole time and | :54:43. | :54:45. | |
we are losing the people and the people want a referendum and if they | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
have them, they take another direction. How long is this going to | :54:50. | :54:56. | |
take to get a deal? We don't know. Trade, solitary, immigration? We | :54:57. | :55:02. | |
don't know because we've never had such a case. If you really want | :55:03. | :55:08. | |
sovereignty, facing the migration challenges, terrorism, climate | :55:09. | :55:11. | |
change challenges, controlling the National 's, to regain sovereignty, | :55:12. | :55:17. | |
we have two political Sebastien away to be strong enough to mean | :55:18. | :55:23. | |
something and to shape our future -- political sovereignty. No country | :55:24. | :55:25. | |
can shape its own future, it's only together we can do that. Briefly, | :55:26. | :55:32. | |
emotionally, after 40 years of this union, where are you today | :55:33. | :55:35. | |
emotionally? Emotionally, expresses a migrant crisis showing only the | :55:36. | :55:43. | |
sovereign state decisions are pushing the migrant crisis a | :55:44. | :55:47. | |
pitfalls of the Balkans and Austria closed the borders, not the European | :55:48. | :55:50. | |
solution. Europe has failed completely on their behalf and so | :55:51. | :55:54. | |
Schultz and Jean-Claude Juncker should step down because their | :55:55. | :56:00. | |
concepts do not work. I remain a committed European because it only | :56:01. | :56:03. | |
together we can begin to regain sovereignty but I'm committed to | :56:04. | :56:07. | |
changing the medical forces because it cannot be that Europe is working | :56:08. | :56:10. | |
for a tiny minority and leaving the majority of people behind. Do you | :56:11. | :56:16. | |
have any idea, as we stand here discussing this, just how it is | :56:17. | :56:22. | |
likely to pan out in the weeks and months? When do you think the | :56:23. | :56:25. | |
negotiations might start rest muck very different noises coming from | :56:26. | :56:29. | |
London and Brussels? Of course, Cameron is seeking to buy time, his | :56:30. | :56:35. | |
early retirement, and I do not think this is an excuse for not starting | :56:36. | :56:40. | |
the negotiations right away. Article 50 straightaway? Absolutely. We | :56:41. | :56:46. | |
should have a request based on Article 50 at a council later this | :56:47. | :56:50. | |
week and then when the process should start because we know it's | :56:51. | :56:53. | |
going to be long but there's absolutely no reason and certainly | :56:54. | :56:58. | |
not internal party politics, to delay the beginning of negotiations. | :56:59. | :57:01. | |
That would be shameful on behalf of David Cameron. Beatrix, do you have | :57:02. | :57:07. | |
any idea in your head, a model of full where Britain can actually end | :57:08. | :57:10. | |
up in terms of relationships with EU now? | :57:11. | :57:18. | |
We can see that Europe consists of more than 50 countries, and 28, now | :57:19. | :57:26. | |
27, are members of the European Union, or will be. So we can see | :57:27. | :57:29. | |
that there are several companies who do very well without being part of | :57:30. | :57:34. | |
the European Union. Norway, the Swiss, other countries, they do very | :57:35. | :57:38. | |
well. They did not even enter the European Union, and I do not get the | :57:39. | :57:42. | |
feeling that they are badly off. So it is possible to survive within | :57:43. | :57:45. | |
Europe without being a member. And one can have trade even without the | :57:46. | :57:51. | |
euro. It functions. There we have to leave it. We will have plenty more | :57:52. | :57:55. | |
coverage from here, and from Westminster. Stay with us here on | :57:56. | :57:56. | |
BBC News. The UK has voted to leave the | :57:57. | :58:15. | |
European Union, in the most seismic decision in generations. David | :58:16. | :58:18. | |
Cameron has met the Queen this morning after announcing he will | :58:19. | :58:23. | |
resign as Prime Minister. 52% of people who cast a vote in the ballot | :58:24. | :58:30. | |
made the momentous decision to leave the EU. Boris Johnson, who led the | :58:31. | :58:34. | |
Leave campaign, page tribute to the outgoing Prime Minister. There's | :58:35. | :58:39. | |
simply no need in the 21st century to be part of a federal system of | :58:40. | :58:43. | |
government based in Brussels, which is imitated nowhere else on earth | :58:44. | :58:46. | |
full stop it was a noble idea for its time. It is no longer right for | :58:47. | :58:56. | |
this country. A visibly emotional David Cameron earlier stood outside | :58:57. | :59:01. | |
the door of No 10 with his wife Samantha to explain his decision to | :59:02. | :59:09. | |
leave. I will do everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship | :59:10. | :59:12. | |
over the coming weeks and months. But I do not think it would be right | :59:13. | :59:18. | |
for me to try to be the captain who steers our country to its next | :59:19. | :59:21. | |
destination. There's dismay in the sad fact, as the pound plunges. The | :59:22. | :59:27. | |
financial markets also fell shopping. -- there's dismay in the | :59:28. | :59:33. | |
City. And Scotland's First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, says a second | :59:34. | :59:39. | |
independence referendum is highly likely after Scots voted | :59:40. | :59:47. | |
overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. The vote has already claimed the | :59:48. | :59:50. | |
scalp of the Prime Minister and it has shocked the political | :59:51. | :59:54. | |
establishment here in Westminster, where crowds are gathering, | :59:55. | :59:57. | |
helicopters are in the air, trouble in the Labour ranks as well, and the | :59:58. | :00:01. | |
prospect of a referendum on Scottish independence. I will be speaking to | :00:02. | :00:07. | |
leading commentators and politicians, all of this, as British | :00:08. | :00:10. | |
politics tries to come to terms with the result. And voters here in | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
Manchester, absorbing all the new information which emerges with each | :00:16. | :00:19. | |
news conference. What is dominating conversation now is that second, | :00:20. | :00:22. | |
highly likely, independence referendum in Scotland. | :00:23. | :00:45. | |
Good afternoon from Downing Street. After more than 40 years, Britain | :00:46. | :00:52. | |
has voted to end its membership of the European Union. The vote was | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
decisive-50 2% voted to leave the EU, 48% wanted to to stay. David | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
Cameron has met Queen at Buckingham Palace to formally tell her of his | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
intention to resign as Prime Minister. 52% voted to leave. We | :01:07. | :01:10. | |
have heard from Boris Johnson, Jean-Claude Juncker, Nicola | :01:11. | :01:14. | |
Sturgeon, amongst many other world leaders, and we will have all of the | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
latest developments in a moment. First, let's take a closer look at | :01:19. | :01:23. | |
the final result, which shows that Leave secured its victory by a | :01:24. | :01:24. | |
margin of more than a million votes. It was a high turnout. In England, | :01:25. | :01:45. | |
more than 15 million people voted for the UK to leave the European | :01:46. | :01:51. | |
Union... In Scotland... Every single voting area came out in favour of | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
Remain. In Wales, Leave secured the most | :01:55. | :02:08. | |
votes in all but five of the 22 counting areas. In Northern Ireland, | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
which shares a land border with the European Union, voters backed | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
Remain, with 55% of voters choosing to remain in the EU. Speaking here | :02:20. | :02:25. | |
outside No 10 at about quarter past eight this morning, the Prime | :02:26. | :02:28. | |
Minister said that he would steady the ship over the coming months, but | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
that fresh leadership was required. I think the country requires fresh | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
leadership to take it in this direction. I will do everything I | :02:38. | :02:43. | |
can as Prime Minister to steady the ship over the coming weeks and | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
months. But I do not think it would be right for me to try to be the | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
captain that steers our country to its next destination. This is not a | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
decision I have taken lightly. But I do believe it is in the national | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
interest to have a period of stability, and then the new | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
leadership required. There's no need for a precise timetable today, but | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
in my view, we should aim to have a new Prime Minister in place by the | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
start of the Conservative Party conference in October. One of the | :03:14. | :03:19. | |
politicians who led the campaign to leave, the former Mayor of London | :03:20. | :03:22. | |
Boris Johnson, has paid tribute to the Prime Minister, as one of the | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
most extraordinary politicians of our age. Mr Johnson said Britain | :03:27. | :03:34. | |
would have the opportunity to find its voice in the world again. I | :03:35. | :03:40. | |
believe we now have a glorious opportunity. We can pass our laws | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
and set our taxes entirely according to the needs of the UK economy. We | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
can control our borders in a way which is not discrimination and but | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
fair and balanced, and take the wind out of the sails of the extremists | :03:53. | :03:58. | |
and those who would play politics with immigration. And as we have | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
been hearing, the voting patterns have highlighted sharp divisions | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
across the United Kingdom. More than 62% of people in Scotland voted to | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
stay in the EU, raising the prospect of Scotland being taken out of the | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
EU against its will. The First Minister of Scotland, Nicola | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
Sturgeon, has told a news conference a short time ago that it was a | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
statement of the obvious that the option of a second referendum was | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
now on the table. When the article 50 process is triggered in three | :04:30. | :04:36. | |
months' time, the UK will be on a two-year path to the EU exit door. | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
If Parliament judges that a second referendum is the best or only way | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
to protect our place in Europe, it must have the option to hold one | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
within that time scale. That means we must act now to protect that | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
position. I can therefore confirm today that in order to protect that | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
position, we will begin to prepare the legislation that would be | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
required to enable a new independence referendum to take | :05:03. | :05:05. | |
place if and when Parliament so decides. Our assistant political | :05:06. | :05:14. | |
editor, Norman Smith, is with me now. So much changing in such a | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
short time. News now about Jeremy Corbyn? Events are moving | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
extraordinarily quickly. A letter of no confidence has been tabled in | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
Jeremy Corbyn from Margaret Hodge and Alan Covey, two very senior | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
Labour figures. That has been sent to the chairman of the Parliamentary | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
Labour Party. We will consider it. That should then be put to a meeting | :05:36. | :05:38. | |
of the Parliamentary Labour Party for discussion on Monday. If it is | :05:39. | :05:46. | |
accepted, it is quite possible a ballot will begin on whether there | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
should be a challenge to Jeremy Corbyn, on Tuesday. In other words, | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
Mr Cameron has gone this morning, we have the prospect of a second | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
independence referendum, with Nicola Sturgeon clearly indicating that is | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
how one option which is on the table in the now we have a question mark | :06:05. | :06:07. | |
about whether Jeremy Corbyn will remain as leader. In other words, | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
this referendum is pretty much thrown the whole political jigsaw up | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
in the air, and who knows how it is going to end? Seismic is the word we | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
keep hearing, however you voted. We have not seen anything like this for | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
generations. Funny thing about it all is that what happens here is the | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
least important part of the whole story. On any other day, a Prime | :06:29. | :06:34. | |
Minister resigning, a Labour leader facing a challenge, a possible | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
second independence referendum, that would be massive. They are all big, | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
but they pale into the comparison with the enormity of the decision we | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
as a nation have now taken. We have basically decided to move away from | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
a settled, 40 year period of history who were part of a Common Market, a | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
European Union. It is one of those benchmark moments in our island | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
story, when we have consciously decided to take another step in | :06:59. | :07:01. | |
another direction. That is a massive, massive story. In my | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
lifetime I cannot think of as big a moment. It is one of those profound, | :07:06. | :07:11. | |
life-changing, historic, turning point decisions, which actually, | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
despite all the things which are going on today, totally overshadows | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
all of that. The other thing to say is, the pace with which everything | :07:22. | :07:24. | |
is now moving. The leadership contest for Jeremy Corbyn may begin | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
next week. The contest for David Cameron I suspect is pretty much | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
already under way in the privacy of the rooms of the key players in the | :07:33. | :07:40. | |
Tory party. We will have to move pretty quickly I would think in | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
terms of a different sort of shadow cabinet as well. We awoke this | :07:46. | :07:50. | |
morning a divided nation? Yes, that is I suppose what was most striking | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
about the press conference by the Brexiteers, Boris Johnson and | :07:56. | :07:57. | |
Michael Gove. There was no crowing, no jubilation. It was sombre and, | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
so, because they know there are many, many people, yes, some will be | :08:03. | :08:08. | |
delighted, others are worried and fretful, and I thought it was | :08:09. | :08:12. | |
particularly significant, Boris Johnson went out of his way to | :08:13. | :08:15. | |
appeal to younger voters, saying, this does not mean we are less | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
European. We are still part of the European continent. Our children and | :08:20. | :08:22. | |
grandchildren will still be Europeans. In many ways he thinks a | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
relationship with Europe will be better. But their town and message | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
underlines the fact that they know that this referendum has exposed | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
deep, deep divisions in this country, geographically, socially, | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
culturally busy somehow that has to be put together again. So much | :08:40. | :08:45. | |
reaction continuing to come in from politicians and everybody else. It | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
has been called up or Independence Day by Ukip, after Britain voted to | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
leave the EU. And also reaction to the subsequent resignation of David | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
Cameron. Andrew Neil is on College Green bit 20 more reaction. It is a | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
bit of a circus down here! There's people all over the place, some | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
demonstrators, they are quite noisy as well. The world's media is here. | :09:07. | :09:13. | |
We have got TV crews, broadcasters from all over the world, from Asia, | :09:14. | :09:17. | |
Europe, the United States, Australia and other parts of the Commonwealth | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
as well. And we also have Daniel Hannan, a member of the European | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
Parliament, a Tory who was campaigning to leave. Damian Green, | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
Tory MP who was campaigning to remain. Chris Leslie, Labour MP, | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
campaigning to remain as well. Daniel Hannan, we have heard this | :09:34. | :09:36. | |
morning from leading European figures, in Brussels, the Parliament | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
and so on, that they want to begin the divorce proceedings right away. | :09:42. | :09:48. | |
They do not want a delay. And yet it seems that it is the tactic of the | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
British Government to hold on for a while? There are bound to be frayed | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
tempers in the immediate aftermath. It is important that there should be | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
a cooling off period before we begin talks. Obviously, there's going to | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
be a change in personnel in the UK. When that process has been complete, | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
we can then move towards a phased repatriations of power. I think it | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
is very important to stress that quite a lot of what we are doing | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
will remain in place. We have to recognise that Damian's side got 40% | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
of the vote. An enormous number of people watching voted for the status | :10:23. | :10:29. | |
quo. Two of the four constituent nations of the UK voted for the | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
status quo. We do not have a mandate for anything precipitous or radical | :10:33. | :10:38. | |
or unilateral. We will want to go ahead with the consent of our | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
European allies, wherever possible carry on with us the majority of the | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
British people, not just the 52% who voted to leave. So when these senior | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
European figures say, let's get on with the negotiations. Uncertainty | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
is in nobody's business, you think we will be able to talk them out of | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
that? You know, it was very clear even before this referendum began | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
that there was always a deal on offer for us of being in the market | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
but outside political union. This was even from the most hardline | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
federalists. Chapter law called it privileged partnership. Someone else | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
called it associate mentorship. The idea was that we would be part of | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
the free movement of goods and services but outside the political | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
citizenship and so on. I am in no doubt that that is still on offer. | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
It is a question of getting there amicably, and with a transition | :11:28. | :11:32. | |
which has a maximum consensus behind it in this country, and is fair to | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
our friends and allies as well, in a timescale which suits both sides. | :11:39. | :11:41. | |
Who would be best equipped to lead these negotiations on the British | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
side? Well, it can't be Sir Humphrey in Brussels. They are the people who | :11:47. | :11:49. | |
created the mess in the first place. At the Prime Minister got a | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
different deal, this referendum would not have produced the outcome | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
it did. We cannot have the same Foreign Office grandees repeating | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
their mistake. There needs to be I think a group of people who | :12:01. | :12:03. | |
represent the will of the British people. As I say, taking into | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
account the fact that it was a narrow result, and that quite a lot | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
of what we have done is going to stay in place. We are not going to | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
rip everything up. It will be a tiff and gentle repatriation of power. | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
Damian Green, is that realistic to get negotiations or does not take | :12:21. | :12:29. | |
into account the hard line that the European Union members could well | :12:30. | :12:32. | |
take? We can't yet know what they will take or well indeed they will | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
be a united front. The problem with this debate in this country is its | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
as versus a block, 27 different countries. They will have their own | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
differences and interest in renegotiation. The problem with the | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
outline of what should happen is the degree of the length of time of | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
uncertainty there would be. Inevitably, we are seeing market | :12:57. | :13:02. | |
chaos as predicted today, and, clearly, it's inevitable primers to | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
had to stand down as well but that in itself delayed everything by a | :13:06. | :13:08. | |
few months. Clearly you need a new Prime Minister. That would unite to | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
see heading up negotiations? I think they have to be led by the new Prime | :13:15. | :13:20. | |
Minister. Boris Johnson then? Let's sue the runners and riders are | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
before we get into that. If not then, who? I suspect a lot of people | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
put their hat into the ring. A number of people. Who will beat him? | :13:30. | :13:36. | |
I don't know because I don't know who is going to stand. Until they | :13:37. | :13:39. | |
do, it's a difficult question to answer. We've just seen the text of | :13:40. | :13:47. | |
a letter that Margaret Hodge, a leading Labour backbencher, has sent | :13:48. | :13:54. | |
to for consideration of the Parliamentary Labour Party, its next | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
meeting, Monday, and it is submitting for urgent consideration | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
that the Parliamentary Labour Party has no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
as leader of the Parliamentary Labour Party. The Prime Minister is | :14:08. | :14:15. | |
going. Is Jeremy Corbyn's leadership in crisis? This is a pretty seismic | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
event for the whole country. Obviously our first priority has to | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
be to make sure that we respond to this challenge in the appropriate | :14:25. | :14:26. | |
way but there's certainly some issues from before the Labour Party. | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
I'm not surprised that colleagues from across the Parliamentary Labour | :14:32. | :14:34. | |
Party are starting to think about that. It sounds to me like it's a | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
motion for debate. We had one of these back in January, whenever, | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
when MPs in the PLP vote on a particular question, like a motion | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
at an ordinary meeting. Would you vote for this motion? It sounds like | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
a standard no-confidence motion so for me, there seems to be two or | :14:53. | :14:55. | |
three key things which would mean I have to weigh the map. For a start, | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
did Jeremy Corbyn managed to speak to our core support across the | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
country? Did he mobilise that support? The PLP, the conference | :15:04. | :15:10. | |
were saying should be vote in? I think there was a failure there. Has | :15:11. | :15:13. | |
Jeremy got the ability to reach out to build, an early general election, | :15:14. | :15:20. | |
it could be four months within four years, says various times, there are | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
worries about that. For me, it's about having opposition party that | :15:27. | :15:29. | |
can speak to the concerns and challenges the public have been | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
saying, about immigration, whatever, and it's no secret I didn't nominate | :15:35. | :15:40. | |
or voter Jeremy Corbyn and so I would say today he does need to | :15:41. | :15:43. | |
consider his position. And think about whether he should do the | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
honourable thing. Sounds like you're voting for this motion. Every MP | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
will have to search their conscience. I think I would need an | :15:51. | :15:57. | |
awful to persuading to have confidence in Jeremy 's leadership | :15:58. | :15:59. | |
to go into a general election. Gentlemen, thank you. Let's go back | :16:00. | :16:06. | |
to Sophie in Downing Street. Andrew, thank you very much. One | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
immediate concern this morning was the city, the financial markets, how | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
they would react and they certainly did react because as a result became | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
clear the pound plunged, its biggest one-day drop for decades. The | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney has sought to reassure | :16:24. | :16:26. | |
financial markets and he said the bank was well-prepared. Ben Thompson | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
is monitoring the markets in the city. What has been happening in the | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
last hour or so? Are the markets rallying? We often talk about roller | :16:36. | :16:42. | |
coasters is on the markets but today that evident. This is what happened | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
to the pound. You can see evidence overnight as news of that Leave | :16:47. | :16:52. | |
victory filtered through. You can see over the morning, it managed to | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
stabilise, winning back some losses but in the last few minutes, as | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
America wakes up to that news, the UK is to leave the European Union, | :17:02. | :17:04. | |
it is starting to lose ground once again. I want to take you to what | :17:05. | :17:10. | |
the equity markets are doing. Across Europe, this is the picture. The | :17:11. | :17:15. | |
FTSE 100 is down 4.5%, but in mainland Europe, bigger losses in | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
Frankfurt and Paris, the market in Frankfurt down more than 7%. Also in | :17:21. | :17:27. | |
Paris as well, down 8.7%, so lots of concern and volatility. Some of the | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
biggest losers on the London market, the airlines, house-builders, | :17:32. | :17:34. | |
retail, all down pretty sharply as the results came in. Let's beat | :17:35. | :17:43. | |
Stewart. Good morning. Let's talk about this volatility. That lets | :17:44. | :17:49. | |
speak to Alex Stewart. Our markets figuring in a new reality for | :17:50. | :17:53. | |
London? Definitely, up until yesterday, there was a lot of | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
confidence and was going to be a Remain vote. The bookies were saying | :17:59. | :18:01. | |
and 80% chance, so this has come as a shock to certain parts of the | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
market and now it's a case of Di jesting it and trying to work out | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
what it means. Have we swapped one set of uncertain issues for another | :18:11. | :18:14. | |
because the city was looking towards today, we would vote in or out, and | :18:15. | :18:19. | |
we now know no what the decision is and it strikes were we discovered a | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
whole lot more to come? We have a leadership election coming up. | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
Imminently. And then negotiations start with the EU and we have no | :18:28. | :18:31. | |
idea what form the agreement will take, so the uncertainty will be | :18:32. | :18:35. | |
around for a while longer now. What does any of this matter to the | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
average person because is this just bankers in offices talking about a | :18:40. | :18:44. | |
future or real stuff that will affect all of us in our pockets? | :18:45. | :18:48. | |
Immediately, even notice the difference other than holiday money | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
because of the impact on sterling but things will continue as normal | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
until was a negotiation but yes, the value has been wiped off the equity | :18:58. | :19:02. | |
market, more difficult for companies to fund but the Bank of England are | :19:03. | :19:05. | |
standing ready to support the banking system and it should not be | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
a problem in terms of liquidity but we all have to take stock and work | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
out what this means for economic growth, for inflation, industry. | :19:15. | :19:20. | |
Thank you. We will stay here all day and keep a close eye on what happens | :19:21. | :19:23. | |
and, crucially, we saw what happened in Asia and we are seeing Europe and | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
will keep a close eye on that but crucially, it's just turned 20 past | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
seven in New York and we get an indication of what markets are | :19:33. | :19:35. | |
thinking they're a little bit later. Back to you. Ben Thompson, we will | :19:36. | :19:42. | |
be back to you for that. Thank you. We have gathered a panel of voters, | :19:43. | :19:46. | |
those who wanted to Remain and those who want to Leave in Manchester with | :19:47. | :19:51. | |
Victoria Derbyshire. We will join her now. | :19:52. | :19:58. | |
Yes, voters have been exercised about the possibility of a second | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
independence referendum in Scotland. We are mostly here with voters in | :20:03. | :20:05. | |
the north-west of England it should be pointed out. Suzanne, you voted | :20:06. | :20:11. | |
to leave. When you saw Nicola Sturgeon with her press conference, | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
you across. Why? I'm furious with her to be frank because they've | :20:16. | :20:18. | |
already had their referendum in Scotland and decided to stay part of | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
UK. The UK has voted and this is the decision. What we need at the moment | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
is unity, not Nicola Sturgeon trying to hijack the whole process so she | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
can become the independent leader of Scotland. It's all right for you to | :20:32. | :20:36. | |
vote for Britain to leave Europe but not Scotland to vote to leave the | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
UK? I think they've had the referendum and they want to be part | :20:43. | :20:45. | |
of the UK and the UK has had that decision. In the future, they want | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
to change that, if something for the future but at the moment, we need | :20:50. | :20:52. | |
stability and she's wiping that away. The Scottish people have a | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
democratic mandate. The majority of Scots voted to remain in the | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
European Union. Now, the fact English and Welsh voters have | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
dragged the Scottish people out of it, it gives them that mandate and I | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
believe they should have a second referendum. Obviously I want | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
Scotland to stay as part of the UK but the Scottish people must decide. | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
You voted last time for independence for Scotland. I did. I chose to vote | :21:19. | :21:25. | |
for Scottish independence was on the basis that I suspected there would | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
be an EU referendum and I suspect the rest of the UK would choose to | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
leave the EU. Whilst I won't have a vote next time, I imagine that would | :21:35. | :21:37. | |
be one of the major talking point for the Scottish people to consider. | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
Let me ask people who support Labour, confident in Jeremy Corbyn? | :21:41. | :21:49. | |
I'm not surprised in one sense. I'm surprised how quickly it come about. | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
I think it was inevitable he would come up to calls to resign or | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
someone would come forward and force it. Do you have confidence in Labour | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
leader? Not at the moment because he was very throughout the campaign. I | :22:04. | :22:11. | |
think it's a reaction from the usual suspects. People looking for | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
opportunities at any time. A no-confidence motion on him. We need | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
introspection of what went wrong before we start finger pointing. It | :22:20. | :22:26. | |
will be hard to convince the majority, the clear majority of | :22:27. | :22:28. | |
Labour members voted overwhelmingly for Jeremy Corbyn. If Boris Johnson | :22:29. | :22:34. | |
ends up being the next Conservative prime in Vista, were Jeremy Corbyn | :22:35. | :22:37. | |
be the right man to go head-to-head with him in a general election? | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
Boris is one of the popular politicians in the countries to any | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
MP would have a difficult job leading the party in a general in | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
that fight. We would elect a buffoon as party leader and Prime Minister. | :22:50. | :22:55. | |
As a Tory voter, I'm not too sure Boris is the presumptive new Prime | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
Minister. There are very talented people in the Conservative Party | :23:01. | :23:03. | |
that would rally around and maybe even a woman this time. Thank you | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
for the moment or later. -- more later. Victoria, thank you very | :23:08. | :23:14. | |
much. Talking about Scotland at the beginning, and Scotland, as we know, | :23:15. | :23:18. | |
voted overwhelmingly to stay in the European Union. Let's give you a | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
proper breakdown of how the entire UK voted yesterday. Christian Fraser | :23:25. | :23:27. | |
has been looking through the numbers in detail. Let's look at those | :23:28. | :23:31. | |
numbers in greater detail. We start with England full support over 22 | :23:32. | :23:36. | |
million voted on Thursday. Turnout, 72%. The highest turnout since 1992 | :23:37. | :23:44. | |
in a nationwide vote for the margin of victory, six points for Leave. | :23:45. | :23:49. | |
The bookies got it wrong because they did not understand what was | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
going on in real England and in these key Labour supporting areas in | :23:54. | :23:56. | |
the north and north-west of the country. The maroon bits of yellow, | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, York, Harrogate. And Newcastle by the | :24:01. | :24:06. | |
slenderest of margins for the Blunden, as we said, mostly voting | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
for Remain: not all part of the South. Key areas in Kent, in blue. | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
Let's look at Scotland. A very different picture of course, all 32 | :24:17. | :24:22. | |
authorities voted for Remain. 2.7 million voted in Scotland, said the | :24:23. | :24:28. | |
turnout lower than the UK average. Voter fatigue possibly? Four | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
elections in under two years. You can see the result is overwhelming, | :24:33. | :24:39. | |
62% against 38%. Edinburgh, 74% in favour of Remain which is why it's | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
opening up a debate again about the Scottish referendum. Similar actor | :24:43. | :24:48. | |
in Northern Ireland. 790,000 people voted in Northern Ireland. Turnout | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
slightly lower than the UK average look at all yellow areas around the | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
border regions. Three out of four areas in Belfast voting for Remain. | :24:59. | :25:04. | |
In Wales, a big turnout. But only five of the 22 areas voting for | :25:05. | :25:11. | |
Remain. Cardiff, yes, Swansea no. Merthyr Tydfil, Newport, Caerphilly, | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
all these areas going for Leave. Let me show you the key Leave supporting | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
areas in the country, two in Lincolnshire. Here you go, Boston, | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
South Holland, Castle Point in Essex. Great Yarmouth. Great Ukip | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
supporting areas. The top five remaining, Gibraltar at the top, | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
almost overwhelmingly in favour of Remain. The London boroughs, and | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
foil in Northern Ireland for that you can check out the results on the | :25:43. | :25:49. | |
website. Christian Fraser, thank you very much. We are going to Burnley | :25:50. | :25:54. | |
in Lancashire now. Ed Thomas is there, gauging reaction to the | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
referendum result. He is at a hairdressers. Yes, Sophie, two out | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
of three people here in Burnley voted to get out of the European | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
Union. Speak to people in this town today and they use words like | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
celebration, time for a party. We have got the power back. This is a | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
town shaped by immigration, some of the most deprived areas of the | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
country, right here in Burnley, and passions were running high here. | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
None less so than in this hairdressers. Every single person in | :26:26. | :26:29. | |
here voted. Michael, very quickly, how are you feeling today? I voted | :26:30. | :26:36. | |
out, I feel right pleased about it. I didn't expect it. I certainly did | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
not think we would win. What was it which drove you to vote out? I've | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
never loved the European Union in a sense I always feel I need to be | :26:46. | :26:52. | |
able to vote for MP and I can pick them out. There's no democracy, they | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
are unelected people running, the MEPs are just a token thing and I | :26:58. | :27:04. | |
think we are better off here and we always have been. Thank you for | :27:05. | :27:08. | |
talking to us. Further down here, a very different feeling. Hillary, | :27:09. | :27:10. | |
what are your thoughts today? I'm just worried about the economy, | :27:11. | :27:23. | |
and jobs, and terrorists, that we will not get the information. | :27:24. | :27:30. | |
Uncertainty. Yes, that's it. Hillary is in the minority the Stacey, what | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
were your emotions when you woke up this morning? I was shocked at first | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
because I did not think we would actually be out. But in a way, I am | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
very happy. I think we can take back our control, and hopefully the NHS | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
will pick up. I hope they live up to what they have said they're going to | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
do, which is improve everything that we have got today. Is that what you | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
were thinking when you voted for exit, you were thinking of the NHS, | :27:59. | :28:02. | |
you were thinking of immigration? Yes, I was, yes. I have a lot of | :28:03. | :28:08. | |
dealings with the NHS, a member of the family will be there throughout | :28:09. | :28:11. | |
the whole of their life. So it makes a massive difference to me. I know | :28:12. | :28:18. | |
what Nigel Farage said this morning, that he basically told a lie, but it | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
has got to be better than what it is now. All right, Stacey, everyone | :28:22. | :28:26. | |
else, thank you very much for speaking to us. A loud and clear | :28:27. | :28:32. | |
message here from the majority of people in Burnley, across east | :28:33. | :28:35. | |
Lancashire as well. They are happy with the UK voting out of the | :28:36. | :28:39. | |
European Union. Ed Thomas in Burnley, thank you. The time is half | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
past 12. You are watching a BBC News special, following the EU | :28:46. | :28:50. | |
referendum. We can go now to my colleague Joanna Gosling in the BBC | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
Newsline. After more than 40 years, the UK is to end its membership of | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
the European Union. The decision has been decisive, with and Leave | :28:59. | :29:03. | |
campaign securing its victory by a margin of more than 1 million votes. | :29:04. | :29:07. | |
The Prime Minister, David Cameron has said he will step down and a new | :29:08. | :29:11. | |
prime and is there will be in place within months. In total, 17.4 | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
million people voted for the UK to leave the EU. That compares with | :29:17. | :29:19. | |
16.1 million voters who backed Remain. Turnout was the highest | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
level in a nationwide ballot in the UK since 1992. As the UK woke up to | :29:26. | :29:31. | |
the news that it is to exit the European Union, Leave campaigners | :29:32. | :29:39. | |
began celebrating. Nigel Farage lead those in Westminster, saying June | :29:40. | :29:42. | |
the 21st should now be regarded as Britain's Independence Day. Those | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
from the Remain camp described the result as a catastrophe. Supporters | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
of Remain consoled each other as the campaign received | :29:52. | :29:54. | |
lower-than-expected support across swathes of England, including the | :29:55. | :29:57. | |
Midlands and the north. Speaking outside Downing Street David Cameron | :29:58. | :30:02. | |
said he will resign as Prime Minister, with a new leader by | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
October. I think the country requires fresh leadership to take it | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
in this direction. I will do everything I can as Prime Minister | :30:13. | :30:15. | |
Tuesday dealership over the coming weeks and months, but I do not think | :30:16. | :30:21. | |
it would be right for me to try to be the captain that steers our | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
country to its next destination. This is not a decision I have taken | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
lightly, but I do believe it is in the national interest to have a | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
period of stability, and then new leadership required. There is no | :30:36. | :30:39. | |
need for a precise timetable today, but in my view, we should aim to | :30:40. | :30:43. | |
have a new Prime Minister in place by the start of the Conservative | :30:44. | :30:48. | |
Party conference in October. One of the politicians who led the campaign | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
to leave, the former mayor of London Boris Johnson, paid tribute to David | :30:53. | :30:55. | |
Cameron as one of the most extraordinary politicians of our | :30:56. | :30:59. | |
age. Mr Johnson also said that in the future, Britain would benefit | :31:00. | :31:04. | |
from the vote to leave. There is simply no need in the 21st century | :31:05. | :31:08. | |
to be part of a federal system of government based in Brussels that is | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
imitated nowhere else on earth. It was a noble idea for its time. It is | :31:13. | :31:20. | |
no longer right for this country. And it is the essence of our case | :31:21. | :31:24. | |
that young people in this country can look forward to a more secure | :31:25. | :31:31. | |
and prosperous future if we take back the democratic control that is | :31:32. | :31:36. | |
the foundation of our economic prosperity. I believe we now have a | :31:37. | :31:41. | |
glorious opportunity. We can pass our laws and set out XXX entirely | :31:42. | :31:49. | |
according to the needs of the UK economy. We can control our own | :31:50. | :31:52. | |
borders in a way that is not describe nature in but fair and | :31:53. | :31:58. | |
balanced, and take the wind out of the sails of the extremists and | :31:59. | :32:03. | |
those who would play politics with immigration. More than 62% of people | :32:04. | :32:11. | |
in Scotland voted to stay in the EU. The First Minister of Scotland, | :32:12. | :32:14. | |
Nicola Sturgeon, says that meant the option of a second referendum was on | :32:15. | :32:20. | |
the table. When the article 50 process is triggered in three | :32:21. | :32:23. | |
months' time, the UK will be on a two-year path to the EU exit door. | :32:24. | :32:29. | |
If Parliament judges that a second referendum is the best or only way | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
to protect our place in Europe, it must have the option to hold one | :32:34. | :32:40. | |
within that timescale. That means we must act now to protect that | :32:41. | :32:44. | |
position. I can therefore confirm today that in order to protect that | :32:45. | :32:49. | |
position, we will begin to prepare the legislation that will be | :32:50. | :32:53. | |
required to enable a new independence referendum to take | :32:54. | :32:55. | |
place if and when Parliament so decides. The political ramifications | :32:56. | :33:00. | |
have extended to the Labour Party as well. Two of its MPs have submitted | :33:01. | :33:09. | |
a motion of no-confidence in its leader, Jeremy Corbyn. They have | :33:10. | :33:15. | |
written to the chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party. Their | :33:16. | :33:18. | |
motion has no formal force, but it calls for a discussion at the next | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party on Monday. If accepted, it | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
would be followed by a secret ballot of Labour MPs next Tuesday. In the | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
past hour, the US presidential hopeful Donald Trump has given his | :33:33. | :33:36. | |
reaction. Speaking at the opening of his Turnberry golf resort in | :33:37. | :33:40. | |
Ayrshire, he said the US and Britain will continue to be close allies. I | :33:41. | :33:46. | |
don't know, there will be a very powerful call, it will be a great | :33:47. | :33:50. | |
relationship, they will be great allies, they always have been. I | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
think 0 will change on that score. There has never been a better ally, | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
and I think nothing will change. European leaders have called for is | :34:00. | :34:02. | |
to belittle in the coming months. Donald Tusk said the other 27 | :34:03. | :34:06. | |
countries in the EU were determined to remain united. The German Foreign | :34:07. | :34:11. | |
Minister called it a sad day for Europe and Britain. So, what does | :34:12. | :34:21. | |
happen next? An Matic correspondent James Landale explores the options. | :34:22. | :34:28. | |
For weeks they have been at it. In the streets and studios up and down | :34:29. | :34:32. | |
the line. But now the hurly-burly of the campaign is over, and we have | :34:33. | :34:35. | |
voted for Brexit. So what happens now? In practical terms, nothing. | :34:36. | :34:41. | |
Britain is still a member of the European Union. David Cameron will | :34:42. | :34:45. | |
still have to attend EU summits and we will still have to follow EU | :34:46. | :34:49. | |
rules. But there will be lots to discuss. Under the rules set out in | :34:50. | :34:53. | |
the Lisbon Treaty, Britain will have at least a couple of years to | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
negotiate briefings. The terms of our withdrawal, such as the rights | :34:58. | :35:02. | |
of EU citizens in the UK, and half used EU budgets. And then our future | :35:03. | :35:08. | |
trade relationship with the EU, in particular, whether the UK remains | :35:09. | :35:14. | |
in the single market. A procedure fully being leaving the European | :35:15. | :35:18. | |
Union is quite a long one. It is laid down in article 50 of the | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
Lisbon Treaty of 2008, and provides for a period of up to two years in | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
which there will be a period of negotiation between Britain and the | :35:28. | :35:31. | |
other 27 on how we leave. Those negotiations will not necessarily be | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
on Britain's future relationship with the European Union. That would | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
require a trade agreement. This is a withdrawal agreement. It will deal | :35:41. | :35:43. | |
with technical matters. Even once a deal is done, it would still have to | :35:44. | :35:47. | |
win the approval of largely pro-EU MPs and peers, in a process which | :35:48. | :35:53. | |
some fear could last year's. And then there will be even more trade | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
deals to hammer out with non-EU countries. There is a very long | :35:57. | :36:02. | |
process ahead. And lots of things which have not been issues in | :36:03. | :36:05. | |
British politics will become issues again, because those powers have | :36:06. | :36:10. | |
returned from Brussels. We have not really had discussions about trade | :36:11. | :36:13. | |
deals in British politics. Is it in the interests of farmers for this to | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
go ahead...? In the meantime, EU leaders will gather in Brussels to | :36:19. | :36:23. | |
discuss how they deal with Britain leaving, and the price they demand | :36:24. | :36:27. | |
in return. Will they want a quick divorce to minimise disruption or a | :36:28. | :36:30. | |
long and painful separation to deter others from going the same way? The | :36:31. | :36:34. | |
key point is that this vote for Brexit is just the start of a | :36:35. | :36:38. | |
process. The people have voted to leave, it is now up to the | :36:39. | :36:41. | |
politicians to work out what that means in practice. It will take time | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
and many hard battles for the decisions they make will affect us | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
all. We can go back to Andrew Neil now, with reaction live at | :36:50. | :36:58. | |
Westminster. And here we are on the BBC platform, in the heart of the | :36:59. | :37:01. | |
media village, surrounded by the world's media. Across the road from | :37:02. | :37:04. | |
the Houses of Parliament. Crowds out on the streets come cameras | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
everywhere. Curious bystanders. We even had a little demonstration. We | :37:10. | :37:15. | |
have for you Carolyn Fairbairn, the head of the CBI, who campaigned | :37:16. | :37:19. | |
strongly to remain, and John Redwood, Conservative MP, who | :37:20. | :37:24. | |
campaigned just as strongly, to leave. British business, suddenly | :37:25. | :37:29. | |
your members, were by and large for Remain. That is not going happen. | :37:30. | :37:33. | |
What does British business have to do now? This is a momentous day for | :37:34. | :37:36. | |
the country, but also for British business. As you say, this is not | :37:37. | :37:41. | |
the outcome that they. But they respect the decision and they are | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
standing ready to do what they can to make it work full stop British | :37:46. | :37:49. | |
business is resilient. It understands change, it can adapt. | :37:50. | :37:52. | |
What they want is as much certainty as is possible. And I think some of | :37:53. | :37:57. | |
the things we see this morning in terms of the Bank of England and the | :37:58. | :38:01. | |
Prime Minister's announcement of a timetable have really helped. But | :38:02. | :38:07. | |
they now want to see action on uncertainty, and they want to see | :38:08. | :38:10. | |
real engagement on putting together a negotiating agenda which will work | :38:11. | :38:13. | |
for British business. Do you think it is still possible to have largely | :38:14. | :38:17. | |
the access to the single market that we have at the moment, but not to be | :38:18. | :38:23. | |
in the EU? I think that is what we have to get. It's challenging, we | :38:24. | :38:29. | |
know that. There isn't a model which delivers that, without free movement | :38:30. | :38:33. | |
of labour. And I think that is the conversation that we now need to | :38:34. | :38:37. | |
have. Again, business, on a sector by sector and region by region | :38:38. | :38:43. | |
level, is ready to engage with that and set out its priorities. Access | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
to the single market is absolutely the top of those. John Redwood, | :38:48. | :38:49. | |
given the importance that immigration seems to have played in | :38:50. | :38:52. | |
this referendum, particularly with Labour voters in the Midlands and in | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
the north, it would surely be inconceivable that in the | :38:58. | :38:59. | |
negotiations, the British Government would agree to free movement being | :39:00. | :39:05. | |
the price of continued access to the single market. So we won't get | :39:06. | :39:11. | |
continued full access to the single market... Well, who knows? You are | :39:12. | :39:17. | |
certainly right that the sacred flame of the public will include is | :39:18. | :39:20. | |
as having our own immigration controls and reducing the numbers | :39:21. | :39:23. | |
coming into low-paid jobs from the continent of Europe. That is not | :39:24. | :39:28. | |
negotiable, and not paying contributions is very central, | :39:29. | :39:31. | |
because we wish to spend that money on our own jobs and our own | :39:32. | :39:34. | |
priorities. Apart from that we are pretty fixable. I agree with the | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
CBI, that none of us wishes to damage business. We wish to maintain | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
as much access as possible. I think it should be possible to have more | :39:44. | :39:47. | |
access than America or Japan has to the single market. But of course | :39:48. | :39:50. | |
they have a lot of access anyway, from outside. But we start from the | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
position where we have the full European style access. Unless | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
somebody wants to change it, why can't it just continue? Carolyn | :39:59. | :40:04. | |
Fairbairn said that business needs certainty. If you're not going to | :40:05. | :40:11. | |
trigger our XXX process for quite some time, certainly not before the | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
autumn, I have heard talk that it may not even be until next year, and | :40:16. | :40:19. | |
then you have a two-year negotiation process, uncertainty is the one | :40:20. | :40:25. | |
thing you will be delivering? You can never get rid of uncertainty | :40:26. | :40:30. | |
when change is being managed. Big businesses have uncertainty every | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
day. There's going to be a very important Spanish election in a few | :40:35. | :40:38. | |
days. That creates uncertainty on the European continent. But what we | :40:39. | :40:41. | |
want to do, and we have done a lot of homework on this, is, we wish to | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
achieve the main changes we want I fairly early legislative change in | :40:47. | :40:49. | |
the United Kingdom. But a lot of us do not think there is any need to | :40:50. | :40:53. | |
trigger article 50 any time at all. Any time? No. We would secure our | :40:54. | :40:59. | |
own objectives in our United Kingdom way, and they would be quite modest | :41:00. | :41:02. | |
from the single market point of view, and sit down any time to | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
discuss with our former European partners, but at an agenda of mutual | :41:07. | :41:10. | |
choice. I wonder what the reaction of the EU would be to that! I think | :41:11. | :41:17. | |
business really needs to understand, we have welcome to this idea of | :41:18. | :41:21. | |
there being a period where we can get ready, we can get our ducks in a | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
row. We really well, that. But it is somewhat concerning to now hear all | :41:27. | :41:30. | |
sorts of different possible mechanisms for leaving. I think the | :41:31. | :41:33. | |
sooner we can settle down and understand what the right mechanism | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
for leaving is, the better. We set this out very clearly during the | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
referendum. She is the Business Minister, at least still is at the | :41:46. | :41:48. | |
moment... Do you know something I don't?! Well, you're getting a new | :41:49. | :41:54. | |
leader! How are you going to handle this, you are the Business Minister. | :41:55. | :41:59. | |
This is a dreadful day, firstly for the economy, and also for our | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
country, I think. Is it wise to say it is a dreadful day, as the | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
Business Minister? Yes, but notwithstanding that, I have already | :42:09. | :42:12. | |
had a meeting with my boss, with Sajid Javid. He has already had the | :42:13. | :42:15. | |
sort of conversations you would expect, trying to put some | :42:16. | :42:20. | |
confidence back into the markets, to try to put some stability into | :42:21. | :42:23. | |
things. We have heard from Mark Carney and so on and so forth. You | :42:24. | :42:27. | |
asked me about what sort of day it is. I am a very sad person. It is | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
one of the worst days of my country leaving the EU, something I have | :42:33. | :42:39. | |
always believed in... And the loss of my Prime Minister. I understand | :42:40. | :42:42. | |
that, but we have the referendum and you lost it so let's try and look | :42:43. | :42:47. | |
forward. When would you like to see article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, | :42:48. | :42:52. | |
which begins the exit process, it is a two-year process but the clock | :42:53. | :42:57. | |
ticks when you press that buzzer - when? | :42:58. | :43:01. | |
I don't know the answer to that question. It would be silly of me to | :43:02. | :43:07. | |
say. The country of May the decision. People with responsibility | :43:08. | :43:10. | |
for that decision, who may well end up leading my party, I know the | :43:11. | :43:14. | |
prime ministers and we would not trigger it until after we have a new | :43:15. | :43:17. | |
leader, so it's for that new leadership to now take | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
responsibility. For the campaigning going forward. John Redwood, can I | :43:22. | :43:27. | |
come back... We were accused of saying this was Project Fear. That | :43:28. | :43:34. | |
now turned into Project reality and there was no plan. We are where we | :43:35. | :43:37. | |
are. We have to move forward and we have to unite. When do you think we | :43:38. | :43:46. | |
believe the EU? I think we were secure our objectives by the end of | :43:47. | :43:52. | |
the year. Our objective is to have a wide range of collaborations, | :43:53. | :43:57. | |
Pentium trade... But when? -- plenty of trade. Ignore Anna Soubry's | :43:58. | :44:05. | |
heckling and answer my question. When do you think we believe? | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
There's not one single act of leaving. We should secure our | :44:11. | :44:13. | |
objectives on our borders and our contributions and we will discuss | :44:14. | :44:17. | |
with the others and it may have an influence on the timetable. We | :44:18. | :44:22. | |
wanted senior business people to be part of the top negotiating team | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
because we think they have strengths. I share Anna Soubry's | :44:27. | :44:32. | |
sadness but I think we can give a more reassuring message. Business is | :44:33. | :44:38. | |
good at getting on with things. Very well, we shall leave it. We need to | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
get on with things. Let's go to Victoria Derbyshire in Manchester. | :44:43. | :44:49. | |
Voters from both Remain and Leave have spent the morning here today | :44:50. | :44:59. | |
and I think it is worth pausing for a moment to reflect, to acknowledge, | :45:00. | :45:04. | |
what has happened in our country. I think lots of people who voted | :45:05. | :45:08. | |
yesterday, who are very scared, concerned for the future of their | :45:09. | :45:13. | |
country, it's an historic day, but also possibly a great opportunity | :45:14. | :45:16. | |
for the future for our country and I think lots of our politicians now | :45:17. | :45:20. | |
need to look into working together putting the country first against | :45:21. | :45:23. | |
their personal self-interest. Who would agree with that? I think it's | :45:24. | :45:29. | |
been a divisive campaign. It's high time we backed the country to | :45:30. | :45:34. | |
protect jobs, the public services, particularly NHS. NHS is a huge | :45:35. | :45:40. | |
threat from the financial consequences of this. And people | :45:41. | :45:46. | |
coming from the EU. One of the best things from this is visibly huge | :45:47. | :45:49. | |
turnout and it's been a brilliant day for democracy. Look at the | :45:50. | :45:54. | |
people together, we are all divided but we can stand together and the | :45:55. | :45:58. | |
country can stand together. We have to reflect on the ethics and | :45:59. | :46:01. | |
morality behind the campaigns which has to change if we are to work | :46:02. | :46:04. | |
together on this island and the United. Refugees, race, immigration, | :46:05. | :46:12. | |
whatever. It's a good day for democracy and there's been so many | :46:13. | :46:15. | |
people who've been deprived of the to vote, including EU citizens and | :46:16. | :46:21. | |
16-year-olds and 17-year-olds. They will have to live with this decision | :46:22. | :46:27. | |
the longest. A huge domestic integration to force unity between | :46:28. | :46:34. | |
Ireland, Scotland, parts of the UK, so it's a very huge and very long | :46:35. | :46:40. | |
process. Our people worried about the division issue, the unity issue? | :46:41. | :46:46. | |
We have to look at who has been targeted, it's all well for people | :46:47. | :46:49. | |
who want to leave saying we are not affected. It is the immigrants, | :46:50. | :46:53. | |
refugees, those people are deeply affected and they are | :46:54. | :46:56. | |
disenfranchised and will be pushed away from democracy. And | :46:57. | :47:01. | |
working-class people as well. We need to figure out a way to bridge | :47:02. | :47:07. | |
it. OK, what do you want to happen next? I'm still in shock! I think, | :47:08. | :47:14. | |
like everyone else was saying, we all need to stand together now, and | :47:15. | :47:20. | |
try to sort out this mess. Why do you say it is a mess? Look what | :47:21. | :47:26. | |
we've had, announcements today, I'm devastated we have left, David | :47:27. | :47:30. | |
Cameron, I'm not a huge fan, but he is standing down as Prime Minister, | :47:31. | :47:37. | |
potentially, having RSV buffoon. And, you know, Nicola Sturgeon now | :47:38. | :47:44. | |
saying she wants to break apart from the UK -- Boris. I appreciate the | :47:45. | :47:53. | |
things she says. She does have some points. When Boris Johnson said at | :47:54. | :47:59. | |
his news conference, has had he was David Cameron had to step down, what | :48:00. | :48:06. | |
did you think? No chance. We have Remain and Leave, nobody believes | :48:07. | :48:10. | |
him. He's very opportunistic about this entire campaign. The remarks he | :48:11. | :48:15. | |
has made, the people he has shared platforms with, for me, I don't | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
think he honestly means that. OK, hang on. Let's put the politicians | :48:21. | :48:27. | |
aside for one moment. Do you admire the way your family, your friends, | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
the people you work with, have argued, debated over the last few | :48:33. | :48:38. | |
months? Absolutely. It's the first time ever fell straight yes or no. | :48:39. | :48:42. | |
Normally it's about political persuasions. This was supposedly | :48:43. | :48:47. | |
about being outside of politics, about the EU, whereas my concern now | :48:48. | :48:53. | |
is yes, we've got the results, that we have a period where no one will | :48:54. | :48:56. | |
make decisions until a decide who will be the next Prime Minister, if | :48:57. | :49:00. | |
there's going to be an election, a new Labour leader, we have got all | :49:01. | :49:03. | |
of that the country are still got to run in that period. The country has | :49:04. | :49:10. | |
made a decision. Most of the country was for Leave but today we are all | :49:11. | :49:14. | |
British family to move forward to make sure the right result happens. | :49:15. | :49:21. | |
This is a time for reflection. What's nice about this is everybody | :49:22. | :49:24. | |
has talked a bit more civilised than the last time we met, let's be more | :49:25. | :49:29. | |
honest about that. I think everyone has done well. I agree with that. | :49:30. | :49:38. | |
People need to be calm, make rational decisions. And lead forward | :49:39. | :49:47. | |
interchange. Thank you for your time and patience. Nice to see you all. | :49:48. | :49:49. | |
APPLAUSE Thank you. | :49:50. | :49:57. | |
Thanks, Victoria. Two Labour MPs have submitted motions of no | :49:58. | :50:05. | |
conference in -- confidence in Jeremy Corbyn. Margaret Hodge being | :50:06. | :50:10. | |
one of them. In the last few minutes, she has been speaking to | :50:11. | :50:15. | |
our jeopardy political editor. I think Jeremy Corbyn should resign as | :50:16. | :50:21. | |
leader of the Labour Party. This was a test of leadership of the EU | :50:22. | :50:27. | |
campaign. He has started too late, he was very half-hearted in the | :50:28. | :50:31. | |
leadership he gave under it and that resulted in Labour voters feeling | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
that they hadn't got a clear message and didn't know where the Labour | :50:36. | :50:40. | |
Party stood. We start the morning with a Prime Minister telling us | :50:41. | :50:43. | |
he's resigning and now we've got a challenge to the leader of the | :50:44. | :50:46. | |
Labour Party. We are joined by Trevor Kavanagh from the sun and | :50:47. | :50:52. | |
Polly Toynbee from the Guardian. If Margaret Hodge right to put the | :50:53. | :50:58. | |
Labour leadership now as a matter for dispute? Depends whether she's | :50:59. | :51:02. | |
got the backing and whether it is possible to put this into effect. I | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
think what is not in doubt at all is what a lousy rotten campaign the | :51:08. | :51:11. | |
Labour leadership fought. Jeremy Corbyn. Underneath it, on the | :51:12. | :51:17. | |
ground, Labour was the only force out there knocking door-to-door, | :51:18. | :51:21. | |
virtually no Tories. Labour's ground force worked hard. Those who did or | :51:22. | :51:24. | |
did not agree with the leadership, they were on the door, but Jeremy | :51:25. | :51:29. | |
Corbyn's half-hearted approach, frankly am in no leadership at all. | :51:30. | :51:34. | |
I don't think it was even today with his ambivalence. We simply emerge to | :51:35. | :51:37. | |
somebody who didn't have the mouse to seize the moment for them this | :51:38. | :51:40. | |
could have been Labour's great moment. They could have been the | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
United party, passionately pro-European, making the case but it | :51:45. | :51:51. | |
was completely lost. Yesterday, Downing Street during the day, from | :51:52. | :51:55. | |
about mid-morning onwards, started briefing is not just the media, but | :51:56. | :52:02. | |
in Cabinet ministers, that they had won. That it was pretty much over | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
and they had one pretty well. Not huge, but pretty well. What went | :52:08. | :52:10. | |
wrong and why were they doing that? They were relying on the Poles of | :52:11. | :52:17. | |
Andrew Cooper who has a shady record on that. They swallowed it hook line | :52:18. | :52:23. | |
and sinker. Not only that, but so did the Brexit campaign who were | :52:24. | :52:28. | |
very down in the mouth. Nigel Farage effectively conceded defeat. Then he | :52:29. | :52:32. | |
withdrew that. Then he did that again and withdrew that and then | :52:33. | :52:38. | |
made a victory speech. I had a couple of hours sleep whenever thing | :52:39. | :52:43. | |
was turning around. They were just misled by the polls. What went wrong | :52:44. | :52:46. | |
because you're a big supporter of Remain? Just about everything. The | :52:47. | :52:54. | |
Leave Campaign had the best tunes and it was easy for them to look at | :52:55. | :52:57. | |
the people who are feeling most harmed, ironically, by this | :52:58. | :53:02. | |
Government, by the cats, the austerity, a million council jobs | :53:03. | :53:06. | |
lost, huge cuts to tax credits, all kinds of services people feeling | :53:07. | :53:11. | |
disaffected, they were persuaded foreigners were to blame -- cats. -- | :53:12. | :53:23. | |
cuts. That the low politics. If the soil is fertile enough any | :53:24. | :53:28. | |
disagreeable politicians can use outsiders, race, foreigners, | :53:29. | :53:32. | |
invaders, to frighten people. Wasn't it also the sense of the British | :53:33. | :53:38. | |
people wanting to give the political elite a bit of a bashing? Absolutely | :53:39. | :53:45. | |
true. It's been brewing for a while, several years in fact, the feeling | :53:46. | :53:48. | |
ignored and betrayed full is not just here in Britain. This is not | :53:49. | :53:53. | |
little England, xenophobic Britain, but right across Europe, and in | :53:54. | :53:57. | |
fact, more cause for the sort of attitude shown here in Britain in | :53:58. | :54:00. | |
other countries, especially the southern part of Europe. Where do we | :54:01. | :54:08. | |
go from here? This country now has two kind of work out what sort of | :54:09. | :54:12. | |
nation it's going to be. Outside the EU. The debate does not end. It will | :54:13. | :54:18. | |
go on and on painfully for years, for decades and people will rewrite | :54:19. | :54:22. | |
and rewrite history of this. Scotland will almost certainly be | :54:23. | :54:29. | |
gone. Little England... It may have a referendum. I don't imagine we'll | :54:30. | :54:32. | |
have a referendum until they know they can win it. It may well be | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
Scotland will go. Little England and Wales alone, I think 40% of people | :54:37. | :54:43. | |
didn't want this to happen. There's only 4% gap for the event be long | :54:44. | :54:49. | |
before buyers remorse switches that around a. Enough for the to feel | :54:50. | :54:55. | |
very riven over whether this was a catastrophe or not. We won't have | :54:56. | :54:59. | |
another referendum. No but who can you blame? We have one minute. Is | :55:00. | :55:07. | |
Boris Johnson unstoppable now as the next Prime Minister? I don't think | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
so. He has to be the frontrunner, but I think anything could happen | :55:13. | :55:16. | |
now and October. At the moment, there are precious few other rivals, | :55:17. | :55:22. | |
so I think he is a likely winner but not necessarily. Like David Cameron | :55:23. | :55:31. | |
was, I wouldn't put money on... I would put money on Anna Soubry. A | :55:32. | :55:36. | |
great campaigner. Should be a good opponent. It has to be somebody who | :55:37. | :55:43. | |
was in favour of Brexit. It's going to be a long, hot summer, isn't it? | :55:44. | :55:48. | |
It certainly is. It's going to be appalling. It's going to be | :55:49. | :55:54. | |
wonderful. Anyway, we let you get on. Thank you both and that it from | :55:55. | :55:58. | |
us here on the day the British people gave the British | :55:59. | :56:01. | |
establishment the biggest bloody nose in memory. Perhaps in British | :56:02. | :56:08. | |
history. It already cost the Prime Minister his job. And Jeremy Corbyn | :56:09. | :56:14. | |
now faces a motion of no-confidence. The British Government now has to | :56:15. | :56:19. | |
negotiate terms of the divorce and Britain has to decide what kind of | :56:20. | :56:24. | |
country it's going to be outside the EU. Bye-bye. | :56:25. | :56:28. |