Part Three EU Referendum - The Result

clear result on the part of the British people, and that must always

have been foreseen by the Government were named Mark drafted that

manifesto, so I don't think that another referendum is necessary at

all -- another Prime Minister. 37,000 on the bottom right of the

screen there, that is what is needed for victory for the Leave campaign.

And I think we have just reached that point. There we are, that is

now statistically, mathematically there that the leave campaign have

won, and we are expecting at the end of the count 52% of the Leave, 48%

for Remain. Quite an extraordinary moment. Not in terms of the way

people voted, because all the way through people have said it was a

close run thing, but in terms of a turnaround from British foreign

policy, British policy towards the EU, British internal policy, British

policy on immigration, everything now is up for change, because of

this decision, and however you look at it, it is an earthquake that has

happened, and what happens after earthquakes? We wait to see. From

your point of view, you are quite confident? Fantastic news!

Absolutely brilliant for the United Kingdom. It is superb. Amelie? In

Northern Ireland they voted 56% to remain, and now they are going to

have a border between Northern Ireland and the South. The security

indications are that have yet to be worked through. The indications for

that for the peace process have yet to be worked through. And what is

odd as well in Northern Ireland is of course the politicians were all

arguing that they should go, the people of Northern Ireland of

whatever background they came from have voted to remain, I think it is

game to be a very difficult situation there, and that is going

to be our border with the European Union, that is where if anybody

wants to coming to Britain, and one of the things you are talking about

was taking control of our borders, how can we take control of that

border? That is another question that we will need to be asking

today. Let's see the figures on the sunlit

House of Commons. The Leave campaign on...

We're joined by Liam Fox, one of those who was campaigning all along

for a Tainio vote. Former Defence Secretary. Dr Fox, what would you

like to see happening now? First, to have a period of Sam Cam so that

people can understand that it is not, as the papers say this morning,

that we are out. It's going to be some time before we leave the

European Union, and we will a period where we can disentangle ourselves.

We want to leave on good terms, we want to cooperate where it is in our

mutual interest to do so. And we need to have a period of stability.

To that end, I would like to see the Prime Minister today announced that

he will be staying on, so that we do not add political instability into

the mix. So what you're saying, we've not left, it's just that we

have announced that we want to leave? That's technically correct.

But the Prime Minister has said that he would implement article 50, the

withdrawal procedure, immediately, if there was a vote to leave. You

think perhaps he should not do that? A lot of things were said in advance

of this referendum that we might want to think about again, and that

is one of them. I think that it does not make any sense to trigger

Article 50 without having a period of reflection first for the Cabinet

to determine exactly what it is that we're going to be seeking, and in

what timescale. And then you have to also consider what is happening with

the French elections, and the German elections next year and the

implications at that might have for them. So, a period of reflection to

let it sink in and work out the technicalities. But Nigel Farage and

his supporters and many of those who voted to leave will surely be

expecting something more than a period of calm reflection while you

decide whether to invoke the procedure to leave. I mean, they are

expecting action, this day?! Well, we will not getting action this day,

I would not think, on pretty much any front. Because I think we have

all understood that Article 50 purposely gives us a window of two

years to try to sort out these problems. We will have a number of

legislative questions to ask ourselves. What is clear is that we

have now decided to change the course of our history. And I hope to

also change the course of European history. The British people have

taken a courageous view, which to say that managed decline in a

failing entity of the EU is not to be our destiny. I am just

overwhelmed by the moment here. It is of enormous historical impact.

How long can you go on paying ?350 million a week, which was on the

side of your battle bus, to the EU, once the British people have decided

they don't wish to pay ?350 million a week? We will still be required to

fulfil these obligations that we have under our current negotiations

until such a time as we leave. Shouldn't you crack on and speed it

up and get it done and dusted as soon as possible? Of course, if we

can get it done under the article 50 agreement more quickly, then that

would be great, if we could come to mutual agreements on things like

trade and security arrangements, that would be wonderful. And I think

there is a very strong incentive to do so. It is in the interests of

both the other countries in the European Union and now Britain, as

we will be, outside the European Union, to maximise our co-operation.

I have always wanted that co-operation, I just did not want to

be governed by them. I do not quite understand how you see the Prime

Minister, who fought so hard on the other side, suddenly changing and

saying, oh, I see, that is what you want - right, this is how I will

negotiate that. He went to Brussels, he had a negotiation which you said

was a failure, and which you will say was part of the reason why he

did not win the referendum - how can he then act as though this was what

he wanted all along - I will now take charge and this is how we will

do it? I would perfectly understand if the Prime Minister felt very

bruised after this result. He urged for one course of action and the

public chose another. But that's democracy, and especially true in a

referendum, which is very binary. I think there is a very strong

instinct in David Cameron which understands the duty of public life.

While it might be uncomfortable for him, I think it is for the stability

of the government and the good governance of the UK that we get

political continuity at least until we are well into that negotiation.

I'm sure that will not be an easy decision for him, but I would urge

him to do what his instincts tell him, and to maintain that stability

so that we can get into this process with the least turbulence possible.

Dr Fox, thank you very much. Jeremy, shall we have a look at the story

which has now unfolded, for people who have just joined us, to see what

it is that happened this evening and last night as the results were

counted? It started eight hours ago. It seems like a lifetime ago.

Doubtless the mind behind that door of No 10 has some serious questions

to answer about what he does next, as Dr Fox was saying. Let's go back

to the start of the night, and very, very early result which rang lots of

warning bells for the Remain campaign, and that was Newcastle. It

did vote to remain, but only just. It was supposed to go quite

substantially for Sokolik. So immediately we were seeing the

Tainio vote much stronger than we thought, and that was around

midnight. That was followed by Swansea, which was interesting,

because we had that down as likely to remain, but Swansea voted to

leave. So the results really started to worry the Remain side from the

early stage. It look for a while that London might come to the rescue

of Remain. Lambeth reporting an extraordinary majority, something

like driven percent, to remain. Other parts of London going strongly

enough for the yellow side, but not strong enough to overtake the

Leaves. Sheffield, Durham, Birmingham, we had next. 3.25 in the

morning, Sheffield comes in. Here we are. And this was a sign of things

to come - that cities outside London which we thought might have edged to

remain, actually went Leave. Durham was a classic 50-50. We thought it

might be close but in fact, it went Leave, which was a sign that the

country was going Leave. And then Birmingham, in the end, they

cancelled each other out and we got a blue Leave from there as well.

Finally, Northumberland took us over the line. Leave coming first. No way

back for Remain. In the end, their powerful areas, London and in

particular, did not bring forward enough votes to conquer Leave, who

had extraordinary turnout and resilience in places all around the

country, particularly England - and Wales as well. It leaves some real

questions for the man who called the referendum and took that huge

gamble. Thank you very much. If you have just joined us, the referendum

result is that 52% of the country voted to leave, 48% voted to stay.

So the decision was absolutely clearly that the people of this

country, by a majority of 4%, in effect, want to leave the EU. That

has all sorts of ramifications, which we will go into later on. At

this point let's have a catch up on the news and weather. Thank you.

Good morning. Britain has voted to leave the European Union. The Leave

campaign has so far taken 52% of the vote. It is now impossible for

Remain to overtake it. There have been strong wins for Leave in the

north of England and in the Midlands. This report by Eleanor

Garnier kins with the moment the BBC announced its prediction.

Well, at 20 minutes to five, we can now say the decision taken in 1975

by this country to join the Common market has been reversed by this

referendum, to Leave the EU. We are absolutely clear now that there is

no way that the soccer league side can win...

Watch and listen carefully - this is history in the making. The answer

is, we are out. And these were the celebrations just moments before the

BBC called the result. This will be a victory for real people, a victory

for ordinary people, a victory for decent people! With the pound

plunging, Remain campaigners warned of turmoil ahead. This is a

crushing, crushing decision. It is a terrible day for Britain and a

terrible day for Europe, with immense consequences. This moment,

this is a seismic moment for our country, which goes far beyond all

of the personalities. We are talking about what happens to David Cameron

- this is a big thing for our country. What this has exposed is a

lot of division. This is not an overwhelming win. There's 40 -- 48%

of people on the current prediction who did not vote for this. Across

the north-east, results soon showed Leave doing consistently better than

predicted. A big win in Hartlepool, and whooshing Remain into a narrow

victory in Newcastle. A much smaller win than expected. Away from the

north of England, in Basildon in Essex, another big win for Leave.

And another account with a big turnout, at 74%. And in Flintshire,

just as across the rest of Wales, voters backed Brexit. But Scotland

voted emphatically to stay in the EU, though the overall result will

lead to renewed calls for a second referendum on Scottish independence.

And London, as predicted, was a stronghold for Remain. But Britain

has voted to leave the European Union, to tear up the settlement the

country has had for decades, unleashing perhaps huge opportunity,

or perhaps huge risk. Perhaps both. The results have upset the world's

financial markets, with the pound falling to its lowest point since

1985. When the polls closed, it soared to $1.5, but as it showed

stronger than expect you to support for leaving the EU, it began to

plummet. Markets in Asia are down nearly 3%. Scotland's First

Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, has suggested the vote will reignite

demands for an independence referendum there. All 32 authorities

returned decisions to Remain. She said it showed that it was clear

that the people of Scotland saw their future as part of the European

Union. Sinn Fein says a British vote to leave the EU intensifies the case

for a vote on whether Northern Ireland should leave the United

Kingdom. The comments from the largest Irish nationalist party

followed a result which saw 11 of the 18 constituencies voting to stay

in the European Union. That is the latest for you. More coming up in a

few moments. Let's have a look at the weather.

A beautiful picture sent in this morning. Some of us had torrential

rain across the south-east yesterday. Today, a lot of sunshine,

but showers already in the north and west will develop further and

intensify as we go through the course of the day. By the afternoon,

some of the showers across Scotland will be heavy and thundery, but in

between, sunshine. It is the same across Northern Ireland and

north-west England, showers with hail and thunder. In Wales, we could

see the same as in the south-west. In between these showers, sunshine.

Dry conditions as we push into the south-east. Many of the showers will

fade, we will hang on to some in the North and West, and we will have

some clear skies, but it will not be cold. As we head into tomorrow, they

will cease showers, a different this division. In the West, something a

bit brighter. Thank you. The art into a new world,

if you have just joined us, a new day has dawned in Britain. We will

be talking to Diane and Daniel in a moment, but first, in case you have

missed the story, the referendum led to those who wish to leave winning

by 4%. There have been various from applications, not least in the value

of the pound and in the markets, not just the currency markets but the

markets generally. What news do you have, what plans do they have at the

Bank of England? Have they been up all night? Good morning. They are up

and ready, I have seen a few people heading into the Bank of England

behind me. In the run-up to this referendum the governor Mark Carney

said that the biggest immediate risk to global markets was the UK leaving

the EU. And they would do whatever action is necessary to reassure

people and keep things like inflation under control. We know

that Mark Carney is now preparing to speak, he says he will not speak

until after David Cameron has spoken, but it will not be long

before he will be telling us what the plans are for the Bank of

England. There are two big issues, one is around the volatility in the

markets, which we have seen overnight, the pound dropping so

much could mean that inflation starts to head up as import prices

become more expensive, it could put up the price of goods here. The Bank

of England has a target of 2% on inflation, if it goes over, it could

increase interest rates. There are other concerns, we are in a lot of

debt, so interest rates could hit hard on the economy. We are also

hearing Nigel Farage say that this is good news for exporters. For a

long time they have had it tough while the pound has been so high, so

it will be good news for them. The banking stability is another issue.

Remember 2008, the Bank of England had to intervene with quantitative

easing, pumping more money into the system to make sure banks could

borrow and lend and keep the economy going. We are waiting to hear, but

it will not be long before we hear from Mark Carney, we will head into

his office to hear what he has to say. How do they detect whether this

is just a panic reaction? We know markets are volatile, they get a bit

of bad news, they tumble, then good news, and goes up again, it is

people trading fast to make a profit. Are these substantial falls

that will be sustained? As you saw last night, when we thought we would

be staying in the EU, the pound headed up, it hit 1.5 against the

dollar. It has pound since then. On a day-to-day basis we see the

markets go up and down quite a lot, it is hard to get a picture in terms

of when this might become stable. It is unlikely the Bank of England will

take action straightaway on trying to stabilise the currency markets,

they will wait to see if it settles over the next few days, but it is

more issues around reassurance, that they have a plan and they want to

reassure people that the financial sector will not go to ruin because

of what is happening now. We will keep up with you. If you get to the

governor's office, will you have cameras in their? He will make a

public statement? Excellent, we will keep it going. This is a comment

from the German Foreign Minister, the news from the UK is sobering, it

looks like a sad day for Europe. Let's get reaction in the early

morning sunlight to what has happened overnight here. It is a

very sunny day here, but the outlook is far from it. This is a country

waking up in shock. The main priority is what happens to be

nearly 1 million Polish nationals living in the UK. They make up the

largest non-British national group in the UK. What happens to their

status? What happens to their jobs, their freedom of movement, the

ability of their children to go to school? There are so many questions

at the moment, it has been very strange, watching the events unfold,

because there is a palpable state of unease. Yesterday the news bulletins

and newspapers covered this story, what was happening in the UK, and

the main point was, keep your fingers crossed. Government

ministers, opposition politicians, saying, keep your fingers crossed

for the UK, they wanted the UK to remain, because they have so many of

their nationals in the UK. What happens to them is of their ultimate

concern. A sense of shock. We are waiting for official reaction.

During this campaign and the freshers argument that has gone on,

I cannot think that any Brexiter said that the Polish people

currently in the UK would be expelled. It is controlling new

immigration. On that basis, there should be no fears for the million

or so Polish people who are living and working here now. The point is

they feel unwelcome. It was such a ferocious debate, they feel now

unwelcome, apprehensive. There are many polls who will stay in the UK,

and it will take time for any negotiations are made as to what

happens to their status, but the feeling is, why did this happen?

Were they because of this? What is also a question that I was hearing

here is, this was a decision that was going to affect so many Polish

people, in the UK, in this country, Poland is one of the biggest

beneficiaries of the EU budget, but this decision was taken completely

out of their hands. There was a sense of uselessness. A sense of the

inability of making a decision, because it was out of their hands,

and it affects so many people. I am joined at this table by Diane

Abbott, the Labour MP for Hackney and, shadow international develop

meant secretary, and Daniel Hannon, Conservative MEP for south-east

England, since 1999. Not for much longer. You don't know that. That is

true. About this campaign and what we have been hearing about the

outcome, how much do you think it was a narrow issue of the EU which

radio's which you were campaigning on and how much was it about wages

being flat, too much immigration, other issues, that you got on your

side and direct towards leaving the EU, without it being that specific

issue? What was specific was what was on the ballot paper. That is the

one clear mandate that we have. Although we now have a clear verdict

from the British people, which I am delighted about, I feel proud to be

British today, we stood up to the threats, we should also take account

of the fact that 48% of our fellow countrymen voted to remain. In

implementing the verdict, we need wherever possible to try to build a

consensus to try to carry people with us. We need to recognise that

two of the four constituent nations of the UK voted to remain, and need

to give due weight to their voices. We do not want to act considered a

sleek, we want to act with consent and agreement of our European

allies. Reclaiming our laws does not mean walking away from our friends

in Europe, we will be constructively engaged, but on the basis of

repatriating. You did not think the markets would be spooked, but it

looks as if they are. They were spooked by some of the aggressive

talk we had during the campaign about bombs under the economy. Once

people realised that what we are talking about is a phased

repatriation, a cumulative recovery of power, within the context of

continuing free trade with Europe, nobody is talking about barriers and

tariffs, you will not find anybody doing so on the other side either,

85% of our economic relations with the EU will remain in place, and

when Brexit takes effect, that will be the beginning of when we start

applying some of the more burdensome regulations. When the markets

understand that, this present over reaction will quickly be reversed.

Many people voting to leave will have been persuaded by you'll

advertisement on the side of your bus, that we send ?350 million a

week to the EU, and that could be spent on the NHS and other things.

How long will it take before the money is repatriated? It won't be

next week or next year. Getting out of the EU is some think we need to

get right, we have been in for 43 years, I am happy to wait if that

means getting the terms of exit favourable to us and fair to our

allies on the continent. We should not rush into it for the sake of it,

we need a settlement that is durable, fair to our allies, shows

that we are still engaged, we are military allies, but allows us to

begin to take back power. The vast majority of people who just voted to

leave and who I have spent the last four months with, they understand

that. What they wanted was to bring back control. People are grown-up,

they understand this is not something that can be done tomorrow.

How long before a British Government can say they do have the method or

the weaponry for controlling immigration and will reduce it, like

they did Cameron promised to the tens of thousands? Were that happen

or is that postponed? Nobody has suggested there will be no

immigration, and thank you for making the point about the status of

EU nationals, there will be EU nationals watching now, I want to

underline, nobody has suggested any change in their status, the only

change is they no longer vote at European or local elections. Tonnes

of migration from the EU, the one thing we can change is we will no

longer be citizens of the EU. Citizenship of the EU gives you a

legal entitlement to reside and vote in another country and the right to

be treated the same way as a national of that country for the

purposes of things like university tuition fees welfare claims, and so

on that will change, but if people watching think that they have voted

and there will be zero immigration from the EU, they will be

disappointed, of course there will still be immigration, people coming

here to work, and you will look in vain for anything that the Leave

campaign said that the suggested there would be any kind of border

closure. All we are asking for is some control over roughly who comes

in and roughly in what numbers. As a staunch Remainer, what do you make

of what he says? It seems to be a gentle move to a different thing,

the British Government able to decide for itself. That is the

reasonable version. The most important thing to say is, this vote

tonight is a war of defiance against the Westminster elite, we have to

listen very carefully to what they were trying to say to us. I think in

many places immigration is a proxy for the discontent. Labour market in

security, their children's future, what is happening to the health

service. I don't deny this is the most momentous vote of my political

lifetime. We have to listen carefully to what the electorate is

saying. It is a bit late now, because you

are out of the EU, which you wanted to stay in? I think actually Jeremy

Corbyn was closer to the national mood than any other major leader,

and I think that puts him in a strong position to be a voice for

working people. I never understood what he meant when he said he was

7.5 out of ten in favour of staying in. Which way do you think you

voted?! Go on, you could see it in his face as he came out! What he

meant by 70% was that he wanted to Remain and reform. Do you think he

will be pleased? I am delighted, I have been working for today for 26

years! Oozed going to be and extremely challenging situation. And

one of the biggest challenges is to bring people together. I do not

believe Jeremy is pleased. But as the leader of the Labour Party, and

those of us in the shadow cabinet, we have to rise to the challenge of

both listening to the electorate and bringing people together. The way

they said no to all of the banks and... Isn't there a piece of you

which feels very proud to be British today? And the hectoring and the

scare stories which we had from all of these big financial... People

stood up to it and their common sense went against it. The Institute

for Fiscal Studies says there is going to be a gap of ?30 billion,

the Chancellor has said there is going to have to be an emergency

budget if we leave. Do you think all of that is going to happen? Some of

these were speculative figures. What is a speculative figure?! Based on

certain models of what is going to happen. Did you believe them

yourself? I believe it's going to be a very challenging situation. Do you

believe it was fear tactics, which played so well for the levers, being

used by the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Prime Minister? I

believe the leader of the Labour Party believes that, that this

Project Fear staff did not help us in the end. You have heard the

various potions around this table, and it seems that almost anything

can happen. Table can decide to invoke article 50 and leave

immediately. Or you can start discussions and take it gently, as

Daniel says. It is all true, isn't it? There is no absolute way, it is

only an advisory referendum, you don't HAVE to do anything? No, I

don't think that is white. I think Diane Abbott is right to say that it

is the most momentous event certainly for many years, and more

momentous than the general election. It is momentous because the people,

as a result of a grassroots insurgency, have given the

government and instruction. And to some extent that is now out of the

hands of politicians. Listening to Daniel and Liam Fox, I sometimes

think they are so surprised that they have won, they almost wish they

haven't, and they are not following up the logic of the Brexit position,

which is that Britain is to leave the European Union. The dynamic

behind it is that there should be control of EU immigration, that we

should leave as soon as possible, and that preferably, this process

should be in the hands of people who believe it. Who said as soon as

possible? I think this is the public view. You said earlier, when are we

to cease a end the ?350 million? When his immigration going to be

controlled? This I suspect is the view of the British public. -- to

cease paying. Parliament is clearly on representative, because the only

party which recommended a Brexit vote has only one MP, and that is

Ukip. I did not think there would be a general election cause the

political class do not want it. Three quarters of the House of

Commons wanted to stay in. But we will come back to that. For the

benefit of those who have just joined us, let's have the news,

insofar as we can present all aspects of it, and we will come back

here after that. Here is Louise Minchin. Good morning. Britain has

voted to leave the European Union. The Leave campaign has so far taken

52% of the vote. It is now impossible for Remain to overtake

it. There have been strong wins for Leave in the north-east of England

and in the Midlands. Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain in

the EU. The Conservative MP Liam Fox, who supported the Leave

campaign, said a period of calm was now required. It's going to be some

time before we leave the European Union. We will have a period where

we can disentangle ourselves. We want to leave on good terms, we want

to corporate rarities in our mutual interest to do so. And we need to

have a period of stability. And I would like to see the Prime Minister

today announced that he will be staying on, so we do not add

political instability into the mix. Labour MP Chuka Umunna, who

campaigned for Remain, said the result has exposed divisions within

Britain. This is a big thing for our country, and what this has exposed

is a lot of division. There is a lot of talk as if this is an

overwhelming win. It isn't. 48% of people on the current projection did

not vote for this. The challenge for people in this context is how to

lead and bring our country together. The results have upset the world's

financial markets, with the pound falling again this morning to $1.34,

its lowest since 1985. When the polls closed, it sort to $1.5, but

as they showed stronger than expected support for leaving the EU,

it began to plummet. Markets in Asia are down nearly 3%. Nicola Sturgeon

has suggested that the Leave vote will reignite demands for an

independence referendum there. All 32 Scottish local authorities were

turned a majority for Remain. Nicola Sturgeon said the vote made it clear

that the people of Scotland saw their future as part of the European

Union. Back to David shortly. I'm not sure I quite dared do this,

but Gus O'Donnell, former cabinet secretary to Tony Blair, Gordon

Brown and David Cameron, is in Westminster. Do you mind very much

if we just do something first? Because we want to hear about

procedure from new, which is very important. First, Sarah Wollaston

has been waiting a long time. She was an important switcher. She is

with Emily. A Tory MP and a GP. For people waking up this morning, they

are saying, it has happened. There is real shock. I wonder what it

feels like for somebody who has gone from Brexit to Remain. Whether a bit

of you is left in Brexit or...? No, one thing I realised was that if I

woke this morning and Britain had voted to leave, it would not be a

sense of freedom, or some kind of Independence Day, but actually that

we have lost something and a sadness and concern for the future. But my

job now as a politician is not to quibble about the result, but

actually to increment it. Because parliament has been given a clear

instruction here. This has been a divisive campaign and now it is the

time for us to try and bring people together and put it into action in a

way which, as far as possible, delivers a positive way forward. Do

you believe it will actually happen? Some people are actually saying,

there will be two years of negotiation and then we will be

granted some kind of associate status which puts us in the common

market, in the single market, without really taking us out of the

EU at all, what do you think? We are in a period of great uncertainty,

and there are 27 other partner nations now who will be having a key

say in our status as well. We need to be very careful in the language

we use. We need to make it clear that we are not walking away from

Europe we are coming out of the European Union, but we do want to

maintain close partnership and ties without European neighbours. But

what do you think that we are missing? Daniel has just spoken of

the sense of liberty and gain a deep you only see it as loss? I'm afraid

I see this as being a loss, but clearly the majority of the country

see it as a game. We need to be careful about how we are speaking to

those around the country who did not vote to leave. I was very glad to

hear him referring to the position of those, for example, within the

EU, who are currently living in this country. I think of NHS staff and

social care staff, there are 130,000 people working in the NHS and social

care, who qualified in Europe, and we need to send a clear message to

them that we really do value what they do and we would like them to

stay. And this is not done a mean that we want them to leave. This

needs to be a reassuring message sent out. And also about the

language we use. We must not be triumphalist, we must try and bring

people together. Do you think that two-year period might lead to many

more workers from overseas coming in, thinking, this is our last

chance before the drawbridge gets pulled up? We don't know. This is

one of the problems with voted to leave, that there will be a period

of uncertainty. We also know for example that some of those

concessions were negotiated by David Cameron, such as being able to

reduce the amount of benefit which is paid to those who come and live

here for the first four years, that now won't come into play. So yes, we

are in a period of great uncertainty. The right thing to do

now is to have some stability, for David Cameron to stay at the helm

for the time being, and to have a pause before we rush into doing

anything next. Clearly, and instruction has been given to

Parliament, that we WILL be leaving the European Union. What about this

Brexit budget, do you expect it to happen and would you support it?

The Government will have to see what happens with the economy, it would

be too soon to implement an emergency budget. You want them both

to stay on? What we don't need is immediate resignations. I am sure

that at some point there will be a change, probably leading us into the

negotiations, but it should not happen immediately, I hope we will

not see David Cameron, out and designed this morning, because it

will add to the uncertainty. He will be a voice of calm and reason.

You see on the bottom right of the screen, the Leave campaign is

leading by 1 million 223,000 votes. It is well fed. We have to cancel

areas to come. What people have been asking is, what happens? One man has

been at the Cabinet, he is the Cabinet secretary from 2005 to 2011.

He sits at the heart of Government. He was there under Tony Blair, under

Gordon Brown, he has been there under David Cameron, so he has

served all three Masters. What would be happening right now, coming up to

7am, in number ten? There would have been worth on contingency plans for

this sort of event. They will be worrying about the volatility in the

markets and hoping that that will calm down. There is not much they

can do about the pound falling, it will get to its level, but they

would think about making sure there are not unstable markets. On the

political front, we need to sort ourselves out to get a negotiating

position so that we can sort out how we exit from the EE you. For

example, when the witch figure Article 50? If I were a cabinet

secretary, I would say there is no rush, and I am glad to hear some of

your guests say the same, because this is a two-year process and this

is not a simple process. It was designed to make leaving very

difficult and not easy for the leaving country. I will be holding

off on that and waiting until we have a settled Government that can

give clear direction to implement the will of the people on how we

leave. The Prime Minister said, maybe this was just a threat, but if

the vote was to leave, he would leave, he would invoke article 50.

You would say, actually, you don't need to? It is obvious he doesn't

need to, accept for political reasons. The country have voted,

they will be in patient with the Prime Minister, who they don't like

very much, cos they did not go along with his view, --. Will he decide he

wants to stay on and lead the negotiations? When you trigger

article 50, which is a letter from the Prime Minister to the Council of

the European Union, you start the two-year clock. I would not be in

any rush to start it off. We know where we are going, the people have

spoken, the question is, how do you exit and when do you stop the formal

process? Article 50 is the only legal way to leave. We have signed

up to a treaty that says that is how we leave. You could negotiate it all

before you invoke the article and then leave a month later. You could

do all of the negotiation before, giving yourself time to think it

through and talk to all your former partners in Europe. It takes two to

tango, the EU might say, actually, we have a process for leaving, we

specified it, you signed up to it, so let's start doing this within the

framework of the article. Two years is a very short time in European

negotiations, most things seem to take ten or 15 years. I pointed out

some time ago it took Greenland three years to sort out its exit,

they only had one issue, fish, and rather fewer people than watch most

European football matches. Take us back inside the Cabinet room. You

have a Prime Minister who has fought throughout very hard and said,

listen to the experts, to the Bank of England, you have a Chancellor

who said, it will damage GDP, we will have a deficit, GDP will fall,

we will have to put up taxes. Can those two people negotiate this, or

would you say, it would be wiser to have different people do it who are

not quite as committed, as you have been, to not taking this step? That

as they call the Prime Minister will have to make. You would have to say

something as Cabinet Secretary about what was advisable. You are not

there now, so you can speak freely. What I would say is it is

important... The civil service will need to be directed. Just as they

were clear when the Prime Minister or the Government had a position

that we would remain in, so they were working with the Government on

that, we now need a clear position as to what is the form of Leave.

Access to the single market, the question about free movement of

Labour, those issues. We need that position to be sorted out. Who will

do that? I suspect that if the Government that will be around for a

long time. The Prime Minister will want to think about whether he is

the right person to do that, or whether he will want to say, look, I

did my renegotiation, the people have spoken, I am now going to

manage a period where we move on to a new set of people who will do this

negotiation. I will leave it to Boris? That is a matter for the

Conservative Party. If he decides he wants to start a leadership process,

the Conservative MPs get to do a short list, which goes to the party.

What kind of a shock is this to the civil service, the people who were

much derided during this campaign, the so-called experts, who thought

of themselves as experts, what kind of shock is it to them to suddenly

have to change tack? They quit on the uptake? Will they be thinking in

a different mindset already? Or will there be a total confusion for a

year or two? Not in a different mindset. The work they did was

clear, they were in support of the Government that had a strong

position, which was that we should remain in. If the Government

position is that we are leaving, which it will be now, they will work

hard to get the very best deal for Britain in terms of leaving. That

will be fine. The things that were said by the Treasury and the rest of

it, I think, are things we will have to grapple with. It is difficult,

there are likely to be economic difficulties. The predictions of

market volatility have turned out to be true. The question is, how can we

manage all of those difficulties as best we can? That is what they have

to do now. Thank you for joining us from Westminster. Shall we now have

a look, as people will be joining us at this time, just coming up to 7am,

the story of what happened? Yes, let's go to the maps, the map

of the UK. At the colours came in. Blue for Leave, yellow for Remain.

It was not enough. Scotland, Northern Ireland and London voting

for Remain, but not enough to swing it. If I, the map in for Leave and I

darken the blue where the Leave vote was strongest, you can see where it

packed a punch. Light blue in Scotland, where Leave was weak, but

the North of England was very strong for blue. The East of England,

especially East Anglia, the Thames Gateway, and London, very light,

does not much was going on for Leave. The question was, would the

votes in London come through and turn it around? They never really

did in sufficient numbers, because the Leave vote was too strong. In

each counting area, we have placed a stalk in the colour of the side that

one, blue for Leave, yellow for Remain. Where it is high, they won

by a large amount. Edinburgh, a big majority to remain. In parts of the

Midlands, East Midlands, West Midlands, lots of votes for Leave.

The heavy numbers in London for Remain. Let's go to the north-east.

We saw some remarkable results. The very first big result was this one.

It is that small yellow rectangle, cube, which should have been, we

thought, a much eager vote for Remain in Newcastle. It only just

went to Remain, that was a sign that things were going badly for Remain.

The Leave side packed away some extraordinary results, look at the

height of Durham. It is the county council. A lot of votes piling up

for Leave in the north-east of England. And elsewhere. The West

Midlands. Warwick is the loan yellow rectangle, the stalk that is yellow.

Not much else to write home about for Remain. Some really thumping

victories in the West Midlands the Leave. In Dudley and Walsall. The

height represents the amount of votes that Leave one by. The West

Midlands was extraordinary. We can see Birmingham in the middle. It had

the biggest number of voters in its counting area, bigger than anywhere

else in the country, 700,000, but they cancelled each other out. There

was not much of a majority for Leave. But that was to their

advantage, because Birmingham was expected on paper to go Remain. The

fact that Leave one in Birmingham was remarkable, and any sense of

impact did not happen for the Remain side. The East Midlands, lots of

Leave victories. You can see the yellow is Leicester and Rushcliffe,

but Boston on the east Coast had the biggest majority, something like 80%

voting Leave. It was the most Eurosceptic counting area, we knew

it would be. You can see the blue bars piling up in so many parts of

the country. That is how Leave one. London, let's look at these

boroughs. 33 of them. Look how many went Remain. It was not enough. They

managed to not clinch victory in places like barking and Haver and

Bexley. They did not put on enough votes across all of these London

counting areas, these boroughs. Lambeth had a huge majority to

remain, that would have helped, but places like Hounslow were much

closer, so London did not come to the rescue of Remain in the UK.

60-40 in London for Remain, 60-40 in the rest of England for Remain. It

was an unequal match in the end, and that shows why the UK has voted to

leave the EU. You described yourself as sad and

angry in the middle of that Remain camp, but all of those big

metropolitan borough 's, the places like Newcastle, Birmingham,

Sheffield, that were expected to be solid for Remain, were not. I am not

that offered about doing an analysis of the individual results, the

reality is we wake up to a Britain that complies with the vision that

Nigel Farage has set out, and that is not the country I believe in. I

accept the result, it is important to do that, but I don't believe that

we should turn our back on the outward looking, decent, inclusive,

internationalist Britain that we believe in. I am utterly gutted and

heartbroken, it is beyond party politics, but I think I am in no

mood for giving up, or thinking, this is the kind of country I will

accept. The Britain that three out of every four younger people voted

for is the one which does stand tall in the world, promotes prosperity,

working with others, wants to build peace and be a good neighbour, not

be isolated, fearful, angry and alone. I accept the result, but I

don't agree with it. It does not sound like you accept it, when you

talk about those who did not vote to remain, the suggestion is they are

not decent. The Liberal Democrats have a habit of not coming first in

elections, so I accept the outcome, but over the last 20 years people

like David Cameron, Conservative ministers and MPs, who has cheaply

divided the EU for a quick headline, has stocked up a swell of distrust

against the EU, and although I have stood shoulder to shoulder with

Harriet Harman, Horden Brown, Andy Burnham, who have pulled a shift, I

accused Jeremy Corbyn and the lady -- Labour leadership in other

spinelessness for not getting involved in the campaign for

Britain's soul and future. This is where British politics changes.

Progressives need to start working together and stop being spoken down

to by the extremists. Do you think Jeremy Corbyn should

go? I think he has let the country down massively. Those areas which

has let the country down for Remain, they were the areas which Labour was

supposed to deliver. And that goes along with the spinelessness of a

Conservative garment which limped into this situation and could not

present a positive argument. We tried very hard throughout this

campaign to be uplifting and positive about Britain's role in the

world. It is one of the reasons why three quarters of young voters voted

to remain. What a tragedy that other voters have voted otherwise. The

truth is, maybe David Cameron expected the Lib Dems to be stopping

him? Maybe he did. But in the case of David Cameron and Boris Johnson

as well. You have got two Conservative politicians who have

both taken positions in this referendum, purely for their own

personal, career benefit, not for the country's good. It is about time

we have politicians who stood up for what was in the interests of the

whole country, and our role in the world, rather than just politicking

for the next election. Would you be surprised if Scotland went for

another referendum now? There should not be another referendum in

Scotland, with the pound tanking, the last thing Scotland or the rest

of the United Kingdom needs is to add to that self-inflicted recession

with further internal disarray. This is a divided country, let's not make

it more divided. The last result came in, and it was Cornwall voting

to leave. 56%. So, here is the final result for the United Kingdom. Here

are the actual numbers of how people voted yesterday's. One million and a

bit majority for those who want to leave. We will go on looking at the

results of all of this. We will be talking to Jeremy Corbyn. I hope you

heard Tim Farron saying that he had failed to deliver for the Labour

Party, and we will be talking about that. Let's now have a catch of the

news and the weather, with Louise Minchin. Thank you. Good morning.

Britain has voted to leave the European Union. There have been

strong wins for Leave in the north-east of England and in the

Midlands. Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU.

Eleanor Garnier reports. Well, at 20 minutes to five,

we can now say the decision taken in 1975 by this country to join

the Common market has been reversed We are absolutely clear

now that there is no way Watch and listen carefully -

this is history in the making... The British people have spoken,

and the answer is, we are out. And these were the celebrations just

moments before the BBC This will be a victory for real

people, a victory for ordinary With the pound plunging,

Remain campaigners This is a crushing, crushing

decision. It is a terrible day for Britain

and a terrible day for Europe, This moment, this is a seismic

moment for our country, which goes We are talking about

what happens to David Cameron - What this has exposed

is a lot of division. There's 48% of people

on the current prediction But this prominent Leave campaigner

called for cross-party co-operation. We have a responsibility to act in

the best long-term interests of this country. It was not long after the

polls closed before Leave started marking up huge wins. Across the

north-east, results soon showed Leave doing consistently better than

predicted. A big win in Hartlepool, and pushing Remain into a narrow

victory in Newcastle. 65,404... A much smaller win than expected. Away

from the north of England, in Basildon, in Essex, another big win

for Leave. And another count with

a big turnout, at 74%. And in Flintshire, just

as across the rest of Wales, But Scotland voted emphatically

to stay in the EU, though the overall result will lead

to renewed calls for a second After counting was completed,

Northern Ireland voted to remain. And it looks like London will be the

only region of England to back staying in the EU. Parliaments

across the European Union will now be busy for years. Britain has voted

to leave the EU, to tear up the settlement the country has had for

decades, unleashing perhaps huge opportunity, perhaps huge risk. Or

perhaps both. The results have upset the world's

financial markets, with the pound falling again this morning to $1.34,

its lowest since 1985. When the polls closed,

it soared to $1.50, but as they showed stronger

than expected support for leaving The Bank of England says it is

monitoring developments closely. Scotland's First Minister has

suggested that the Leave vote will reignite demands for an independence

referendum there. All 32 Scottish local authorities returned

majorities for Remain. Nicola Sturgeon said it made clear that the

people of Scotland see their future as part of the European Union. We

will have more from the results programme shortly. First, let's have

a look at the weather, with Carol. Pollen levels are high or very high

except for the north of Scotland. For many western and central parts

of the UK today, we are looking at showers. Some of them will be heavy

and thundery, with some hail. In between, there will be some

sunshine. Sunshine and showers, some of them thundery, across Northern

Ireland, north-west England, Wales and the south-west of England. Once

again, in between the showers, there will be some sunshine. Sunshine and

showers across the Midlands, but compared to the deluge of rain in

the south-east and East End year yesterday's, it will be relatively

dry. Consider yourself lucky if you do catch a shower. The showers will

persist in the north and the west. It's not going to be a cold night.

All of us staying in double figures. Tomorrow, once again, it's going to

be a day of sunshine and showers. The distribution is slightly

different, with the north and west seeing something a little bit drier.

A quick look at what is happening on Sunday. We start

With Britain voting Julie EU, all eyes this morning are on Downing

Street. Laura Kuenssberg has gone down there. What is the news from

behind you? Well, the street is absolutely packed. I think I can

show you the pick shares of the British press, and many members of

the international press, filling up Downing Street, the official

residence of the Prime Minister. Huge anticipation here. We are not

entirely sure when, but we expect before eight o'clock, when the

financial markets opened, we will see David Cameron come out of that

store to make a statement. We do not know in detail what he will say. But

two themes he will address, I'm sure, firstly, he will urge the need

for stability after this tumultuous result, which of course has come

about by a political decision which he made to offer the referendum in

the first place. He will urge calm and stability. And I'm sure he will

be doing everything in his power to try to convey a sense of calm. The

second call but I understand he will make is for the Tory party to come

together, to urge his colleagues, who have been so bitterly divided in

this bruising fight during the referendum, to come together,

basically not to start knocking lumps out of each other. The big

question mark is whether or not he will address the matter of his own

departure. Now, senior Tories I have spoken to in the last hour also have

actually, in the main, been clear that they do not think this is the

moment for David Cameron to say he is up and off. In a moment like

this, when so much is up in the air, most in the Tory party seem to

believe that he should stay, at least for the moment. But do not

think that that does not mean there are not conversations going on about

this. As we have said, the experience of such a snub for him,

the man who was front and centre of this campaign, who has been defeated

in such a way, inevitably means in one way or another, his time in

office is foreshortened. That does not mean he's about to come out of

the door and resign at all. But whether he admits he admits it

publicly or not, privately, most people in Westminster would now say

his time in office is certainly contracted. The only person who has

come out of the door so far this morning, not actually a person, but

Larry the cat, never one to miss a big moment like this. While not

coming out and saying, I will resign, do you think he might give

an indication that perhaps overcome the autumn, he would act as a

caretaker, but somebody else should take forward Britain's leading the

EU? Because quite clearly, a lot of people might think it was almost

fraudulent for him to negotiate the departure, when he has fought this

bitter battle to stay in - is he the man to get the best deal taking us

out, will when one of the reasons we lost it was because people said the

deal he got was not good enough? Indeed. And also, having with such

regularity and forcefulness, predicted doom and disaster if the

public made this democratic decision. I think there are two

different things. Firstly, I think it is likely that there will be

maybe not explicitly but some hint about the possible timetable.

Perhaps he might say that at the party conference in the autumn, he

might set out his own future. Perhaps he might at least privately

give his cabinet ministers and some hint later today. We expect the

Cabinet will be brought together, on his own individual plans. I think it

is probably more likely that he will focus on appointing a negotiating

team. It may be that he comes out and names one or two of the people

who would be negotiating on the other side. Huge speculation about

Michael Gove being part of the negotiating team. Perhaps Boris

Johnson, too. It might be that we get an assurance from David Cameron

that people who won the argument will be part of those negotiations.

But in terms of his own planned departure, whether that is one month

or one year, I'm not sure how explicit he will be about that.

Several senior Tories this morning who have been on the other side of

the argument has said the first thing he must do, after calling for

calm, is to get a group of senior people together to make a plan,

before he can make any detailed proposals.

Tim Farron said that Jeremy Corbyn failed to deliver. There has been a

feeling that somehow the Labour Party did not bring out its own

people in support of Remain as quite as strongly or with as much

conviction as it should have done. What is going on in the Labour

Party? Are there recriminations from Chuka Umunna, who was here earlier?

Undeniably there will be very serious recriminations. I have heard

from Labour Party people who are angry and feel that Jeremy Corbyn

did not do enough to mobilise the party, the huge new membership that

he managed to attract over the summer, to get out the vote, and

what he described as an agenda of remain and reform was not the kind

of thing that would motivate people. He said that the EU was seven and

half out of ten. For many people it was an honest assessment, but as a

rallying cry to get voters to turn out on an issue like this? Many

Labour MPs feel he was not convincing enough, he had to be

pushed and dragged into getting out there and making the case. What is

also imitating some Labour MPs is that they have been sent round the

lines to take, a copy of it has been leaked to me, and the party HQ

suggest that they should tell the public that Jeremy Corbyn is now the

only political leader who can unite the country. As a critical Remainer,

he is more in touch with the public than any of the other party leaders

are. Much of the vote was about people showing they are unhappy with

European immigration, and Jeremy Corbyn is probably the most pro-EU

immigration leader out there, some Labour MPs think that beggars

belief. One MP predicted there could also be a Labour leadership contest

under way in the next couple of months. Diane Abbott, have you

received a message from Labour Party HQ, that this is the line you should

take? I have not responded to them for 30 years, I am not going to

start now! The people that are complaining about Jeremy would blame

him when the sun sets at night. The truth is, all fingers have to point

out David Cameron, he chose to have the referendum, the timing of it, he

cooks up a bogus renegotiation, and he failed to persuade them. And

Labour also failed. We got out more of our vote and they did of theirs.

We shall discover. Let's come back to the economy and the problems that

Britain is facing at the moment, the markets are volatile, falling, what

is going on? It has been a remarkable night. At 10pm the pound

was hitting record highs for 2016, when the polls seemed to suggest

that Remain had had a good day in the referendum. It has now sunk more

quickly than it sank in the 2008 financial crisis, on Black

Wednesday, when the pound was injected from the exchange rate

mechanism markets. The markets are signalling that the uncertainty

created by the referendum has affected their appetite for risk,

for investing in the UK to an extent. When we started at 10pm the

opposite was happening, don't people listening to this view these markets

with a certain contempt, like gamblers, they see what they think

will happen, the market rises, the pound rises, it doesn't happen, the

pound falls, but that is not real life. But it has an effect on real

life. If your business is buying products in dollars and the pound

has reduced in value by over 10%, your business is starting to

struggle. If you are an exporter to other markets and the pound falls,

your exports become cheaper. So these are real things, this is a

real signal about investor confidence in sterling and, by

association, in the UK economy, and if the UK economy is going to be

positive in the future. You remember Harold Wilson, the pound in your

pocket has not been devalued, if you go to the shops today or next week

to do the weekly shop, are you going to find it more expensive because of

what has happened in the markets today? It depends. If sterling is

lower in value, you tend to import inflation into the country, because

your imports become more expensive. That leads to more expensive prices

in the shops, if those are the kind of things you are by. The chief

counting officer, the chair of the Electoral Commission, announcing the

final figures. The referendum held on the 23rd of

June 2016, I hereby give notice that I have certified the following. The

total number of ballot papers counted was 33,577,000 342. The

total number of votes cast in favour of Leave, 16,000,140 1241. -- Leave.

The Leave, 17 million. The number of ballot papers rejected

was as follows. No official Mark... I was just saying goodbye to Daniel

Hannon. You are off. New people coming in. That get back to where we

were, the Bank of England. It has come out with a statement, it says

it has undertaken extensive contingency planning and says it is

working closely with the Treasury. I am hearing from my banking sources

that banks do not want David Cameron to spark this article 50 provision

immediately to begin the process of Britain leaving the U. That would be

a two-year process. The banks I am speaking to say that if he does that

immediately, they would have to immediately start relocation plans,

because a lot of banks only operate across Europe because of the way the

single market functions. If you live that market, they may have to move

some of their activities and work into the euro area. They want David

Cameron to pause, they have asked for calm. Let's listen to Nigel

Farage. Even the weather has improved. It

has been a hell of a long journey, I first got involved in Euro-sceptic

politics 25 years ago, the first election I contested I managed to

beat screaming Lord such by 106 24 votes, so I did not come last. Now

there are 17 million people that voted for Brexit. It is a victory

for ordinary people, decent people, against the big merchant banks, big

businesses, big politics. I am proud of everybody that had the courage in

the face of all the threats, every thing they were told, they had the

guts to stand up and do the right thing. The election was one, in my

view, in the Midlands and the North. It was the old Labour vote that came

to us. We campaigned as hard as we could in those areas. There is still

a massive disconnect between Westminster and real communities.

The one image I will remember throughout the rest of my life is a

woman in Bolton grabbing my hand with tears in her eyes, she said,

why doesn't David Cameron and the Government come and see but they

have done to my community, to the prospects for my kids? People here

don't understand, they are too wealthy, they don't get what open

door mass immigration as a result of EU membership has done to wages,

availability of getting GP appointments or their kids into

local schools. This was the issue that won this election. I am

thrilled we have done this. I believe the other big effect of this

is not what has happened in Britain, but what will happen in the rest of

Europe. In the rest of the EU Eurosceptic parties never talked

about leaving, now they are, and opinion poll in the Netherlands said

a majority want to leave. We may well be close am perhaps, to an

excerpt. And similarly in Denmark, a majority are in favour of leaving. I

am told the same may apply to Sweden and perhaps Austria and perhaps even

Italy. The EU is failing, it is dying, I hope we have knocked the

first brick out of the wall, and that this is the first step towards

a Europe of sovereign nation states, trading together, neighbours

together, friends together, but without flags, anthems or useless

unelected president. What happens next? 17 million people have said we

should leave the EU, we now need a Brexit Government. A Government that

gets on with the job, that begins the renegotiation of our trade

relationship. That will be mindful that already many of the German

comedy during unions have said, let's get on and do a deal, let's go

on and sell motorcars and wine and cheese with each other. A Government

that at the same time uses the opportunity of Brexit, we are now

freed to start making our own trade deals and associations with the rest

of the world. We have left behind a failing political union, we have

given ourselves a chance to rejoin the world in the 21st century global

economy. We need a Brexit Government, we need the negotiations

to start as soon as possible, we need to start thinking globally

about our future, and June 23 needs to become a national bank holiday,

and we will call at Independence Day.

Nigel Farage has made free speech is now since 4am. When he sees a

camera, he makes another speech, and he will make more. He was not part

of the official Leave campaign, interestingly, and he is not in the

House of Commons, and many people thought his style of campaigning was

not helpful. I don't know if Kate Hoey was among them, but there is

the shot, the early morning light. It is not early morning in June,

7:30am. The House of Commons, and all of those cameras out on the

green. We have had a statement from the Bank of England.

I could have written that. No surprise. I am joined by Kate Hoey,

the Labour MP for Vauxhall, a Leave campaigner, and Eric Pickles, who is

not a Leave campaigner. You heard what Nigel Farage said, recent,

ordinary people have one, they are on the side of Leave, and the others

are not decent or ordinary and they are just the toffs and experts. What

I saw around the country, especially in Labour areas, this feeling that

Labour voters felt they had not been listened to, and they had been

ignored, they had been called stupid and ignorant and racist for just

saying what they thought was wrong. I will come back to you. Jeremy

Corbyn has just joined us. Thank you for coming here. You famously said

during this campaign you were seven and a half out of ten in favour of

remaining, now you are two and a half victorious, and the seven and a

half has been abandoned. How do you see the future? Are you an

enthusiastic Brexiter now? The British people have made their

decision, we must respect the result, and article 50 has to be

invoked so we can negotiate an exit from the U. A lot of the message

that has come back from this is that many communities are fed up with

cuts they have had, fed up with economic dislocation, and feel very

angry at the way they have been betrayed and marginalised by

successive governments in very poor areas of the country. My point

throughout the campaign. We had to have an alternative to austerity, we

had to have greater resources going into areas where there has been huge

changes, and I called for the introduction of a migrant impact

fund as well as proper funding of local authorities. The results are

different across the country, different between densely populated

urban areas and other parts of the country. We now have to try and

protect the working conditions that we have in this country, and in the

negotiations with the European Union try to ensure that there are some

trade opportunities for Britain, because there are some difficult

days ahead, the value of the pound has already fallen, and there will

be job consequences as a result of this decision. We have to do evident

we can to try to protect jobs and working conditions in Britain.

If you want to do everything possible to protect jobs and working

conditions, why don't you want to do what Daniel Hannan was suggesting,

which was, take it easy? Go and talk to them in Europe, think about it,

discuss it, work out a strategy, and gently, gently will be much better

than rushing headlong into article 50? Obviously, there has to be a

strategy. But the whole point of the referendum was that the public would

be asked their opinion. They have given it. And I think it is up to

Parliament to act upon that opinion. But quite clearly, negotiations must

take race. There must be the best deal possible in order to ensure

strong industries in Britain remain strong, and strong industries which

have big export markets retain those export markets, as far as we can.

But we are in some very difficult areas, that's very obvious to

everybody. The accusation that Labour was half started, and you in

particular, with your 7.5, I don't know what you mean by that, support

for the EU, do you think you could have won this thing if you had been

ten out of ten for remaining in the EU? The point I made throughout the

campaign, the point the Labour Party made was, there were many people who

were not particularly happy with the European Union. The point I was

making was, there were good things which had come from Europe in

working conditions and environmental and is, but there were other issues

which had not been addressed properly, particularly economic

inequalities in Britain. And therefore I said that my project was

that we should vote to remain, in order to change and reform the

European Union, and put forward an economic strategy which is not

hostility, isn't punishing the poorest, which is actually trying to

ensure that everyone gets a fair crack of the whip. What about

immigration? You clearly laid out your view of immigration, and there

was no upper limit to immigration into this country. Many of the

people who support you and I suspect voted to leave, believe there should

be an upper limit. And you were very clear, I remember seeing you say it

to Andrew Marr - no upper limit. Was that a mistake? What I was clear

about was that within the single market, the European Union, there

has to be free movement of people. And that we should also recognise

that more than a million British people live in other parts of

Europe, and indeed probably almost another million work at various

times in other parts of Europe. And so if we remain in the single market

come them quite clearly, free movement takes place. But the very

strong point I was making was that there had to be an end to the

undercutting of wages, to the destroying of working conditions in

this country, I people bringing brought in by on scrupulous

employers. The point was that nobody should be exploited and we should

face that down through the posting of the workers directive. If we no

longer have an obligation to take anybody who wishes to come here from

the European Union to work, what would Labour's policy be on

immigration? Well, at the moment there is controlled immigration from

the rest of the world. There are often great difficulties over Family

Reunion. There are people who come in with particular skill sets and

particular jobs. We will obviously have to develop an immigration

policy, which will apply to Europe as well as to the rest of the world.

But I think we should also recognise that those who have migrated to this

country have made an enormous contribution to our society. Indeed

there are 50,000-odd people from other parts of Europe working in our

National Health Service. It is an important issue, and we have to

recognise the skill sets which many have brought to this country and

given us a good standard of living. That is interesting. But do you

accept that one of the reasons people voted to leave was because

they thought immigration was too high, whether they were right or

wrong about that, they did think that? Many probably did, but there

is also the question of the impact of migration and the lack of

government support for areas which have been most affected. Many of the

poorest communities in Britain have had the biggest cuts in central

government expenditure to support their local authorities, and at the

same time be refused any special help to deal with issues of school

places and health places, which are often temporary issues but

nonetheless very important. You make an elegant description about the

problems which are their, but do you think you just missed a trick here,

which was that people were much more worried about actual numerical

immigration than you gave them credit for? You always said, it

would be all right if there were more housing, it would be all right

if we stopped people being sent on lower wages, workers directed and

all of that kind of stuff - actually it was the numbers people were

worried about? I made those points because that is what I believe to be

the right way forward, to end the exploitation of people, whoever they

are, and ensure that our local authorities are properly funded in

all parts of this country. This government has a strategy of

systematically and deliberately underfunding all local authorities

in the very poorest areas of this country, which faced the greatest

problems. Mr Corbyn, what would you like to see the Prime Minister do

now? Do you think there should be an election quite soon, say, in the

autumn, because we have had a Prime Minister who urged us to remain, and

the country has decided to leave? The Prime Minister has some urgent

tasks ahead of him, one of which is to try to use to belies the value of

the pound. The other is to try and ensure the continuation of long-term

investment in manufacturing and other industries, and then to begin

the negotiations on the trade arrangements with the European

Union. More than half our exports already go to the European Union.

Thousands of companies all over the country rely on trade with the

European Union. That relationship with the European Union after exit

is absolutely crucial to the economic teacher of this country. I

hope the Prime Minister is going to be concentrating very urgently on

that. What he does in the longer term is a matter for him to decide

what he wants to do and what the Conservative Party wants to do. Our

position is that we will oppose any urgent budget which causes further

austerity on people. We will support spending more resources in the areas

hardest hit by both recession and changes. And we will try to get

ready for a society where there is a greater degree of fairness and

equality, and obviously, effective and efficient trading relationships

with the rest of the world. And in the meantime, is in the national

interest, you want to the Prime Minister and the Chancellor to stay

in place? I want them now, quite quickly, to decide what they are

going to do, to stabilise the pound. The important thing is to try to

protect jobs at the present time. Those jobs are partly dependent on

the value of the currency, and the export markets which are available.

Mr Corbyn, thank you very much for joining us. So, at this point, let's

have a full catch up, with the news, with Louise Minchin. Thank you,

David. Good morning. Britain has voted to leave the European Union.

The result was officially declared in the past half an hour. There have

been strong wins for Leave in north-east England and in the

Midlands. Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU.

Ukip leader and Leave campaigner Nigel Farage said immigration was

the key issue. People here do not understand, they are too wealthy,

they do not get what open door, massive immigration as a result of

EU membership has done to people's wages, to people's availability of

getting GPI appointments, or their kids into local schools. This was

the issue ultimately which won this election. I am thrilled that we have

done this. I believe the other big effect of this election is not what

has happened in Britain, but what will happen in the rest of Europe.

Labour MP Umunna, who campaign for the Remain vote, said the result has

exposed divisions within Britain. What this has exposed

is a lot of division. There's 48% of people

on the current prediction The result has affected the

financial markets, with the pound falling to its lowest point since

1985. When the polls closed,

it soared. But as they showed stronger

than expected support for leaving The Irish government says the

decision has very significant implications. The German Foreign

Minister said it was a sad day for Europe and Great Britain. The French

government will meet to discuss the I will be back in

about half an hour. Time to hand you back to our

referendum programme. So, hello again. I have been joined by Sir

Eric Pickles, newly knighted. And Kate Hoey, the Labour MP, who is in

favour of leaving. What do you make of this result? Are you dismayed by

what has happened? I am sad and dismayed, but that is democracy. So

we have now just got to get on with it. And we need to get on with it

with a reasonable degree of speed. We need to ensure that our economy

is stable, we need to start the negotiation process. We need to

start the negotiation process with people outside the European

Community, which previously Europe did full stop and we need to decide

exactly the mix that we currently relied on the road European Union to

fund. We will have to decide whether that mixture of economic development

and farming is the right one in competition with things like the

National Health Service. You say none of the fire and

brimstone will happen? I am not saying anything close to that. I

hope that does not arise. That will mean that the Government will have

to move fairly quickly to establish what our economy will look like when

we leave, and in particular, given that it is 80% of our economy

relying on the service industries, we have to know where they are going

to be. Will we see a great flight of firms, which I hope will not be the

case, to Frankfurt, for them to be able to trade inside the European

community? I am looking for us to try to find a Brexit that leaves our

relationship with the European Community on the friendliest terms

as is possible. The interesting point is some people said the

exaggerations, which... The things they said would happen, which you

are talking about not happening, where the things that put people off

the campaign. They felt it was rubbish. I have misspoke if you

thought that is what I said. We want to avoid the worst case scenario

that was carefully outlined during the campaign, which will require an

enormous amount of skill. We are just joined by Philip Hammond, the

Foreign Secretary. Good morning, thank you for joining us from

College Green. What is your reaction? We have heard a lot from

abroad about the alarm and despondency it has caused among our

allies, what is your role? What will you do? The first thing the

Government has got to do is immediately seek to stabilise the

situation in the markets are and then moved to begin a process of

negotiating the very best possible terms we can get for Britain to

leave the EU. Leaving in place as much as we can offer our trading

relationships and economic relationships, including the very

important role that the City of London plays in Europe's financial

economy. That will be the big challenge of the coming months. One

of the arguments raised by the Prime Minister, he was criticised for it,

was that our security depended upon being in the EU. He spoke about the

white gravestones of the first and second world Wars, he did not say

there would be a third world war, but he said it would be a more

dangerous world. Do you think it is now a more dangerous world? I don't

want to overstate the case, but I do think that Britain has been a very

positive influence inside the European Union on the security

agenda. For example, in responding to Russia's aggression in Ukraine

through EU sanctions and keeping the EU united behind those sanctions

with a clear and robust position against what Vladimir Putin is doing

has been largely due to Britain's influence, and I worried that with

Britain now having a hugely diminished voice in this debate we

will see that resolve among our European partners wavering. If Nato

not sufficient protection against Russia and Vladimir Putin? Nato is

our main bulwark against any attack on us, of course, and Nato will

remain our principal defence mechanism. That protects us against

any attack. What we were doing with economic sanctions was dealing with

a situation where we were not directly threatened. Nobody in

Western Europe was going to go to war over Ukraine, but we did want to

signal our very strong distaste for what the Russians were doing and to

signal to the Russians that the course of action would have cost for

them. Economic sanctions proved to be quite an effective tool, it

worked in Iran, forcing them to abandon their nuclear weapons

programme, and it is piling the pressure on Vladimir Putin, but I

suspect he will be feeling a bit less pressure and he will be feeling

more upbeat about his prospects of eventually getting these EU

sanctions watered down. Given how strongly you feel, can you not

devise a way of remaining part of that? That is what we have got to

do, talk to our former partners in the EU about a way forward in the

future. That has got to focus mainly on the trading relationship, that is

the thing that is most important to Britain's future prosperity and

well-being, but also looking at ways in which we can continue to

collaborate with EU partners, many of whom are Nato members, so we do

have a platform here, on other issues in the future. Let's look at

the EU sanctions on Russia as a sort of bellwether, we have pretty much

agreed they will be rolled over in June, but the question is

maintaining the robustness of this ancient regime going forward after

June, and Britain's voice in that debate has been a very important one

over the last 18 months. We will still be members of the EU in June,

because it cannot be unscramble that quickly. We role in the sanctions

over. We will remain members of the EU for at least the next two years,

but nobody can imagine that our voice in the EU will carry weight as

of today. We will not be in effect a party to those positions which the

EU is making. Our relationship with the EU as of 6am changed

fundamentally, it is now one of a semi-outsider negotiating future

arrangements. We cannot expect to have a voice that carries the full

weight of the second largest member state, as we had last week. Were you

surprised by the result? Yes. But I won't be the first politician in

history that has missed red what is going on on an election day or a

referendum day. We have always been clear that we would accept the

decision of the British people and we would deliver the instructions

that they gave the Government. Our job now is to calm the situation,

stabilise the markets, reunite the country, and then let's move forward

to deliver the very best outcome we possibly can. Honestly, I believe

that outcome economic league in particular will not be as good as it

would have been if we had remained in the EU, but our job collectively

is to make sure it is as good as it possibly can be in the

circumstances, that we get the best deal we can with EE you for Britain

going forward. Jeremy. A look at comparisons with 1975, the

first referendum on being a member of the EU. We are in our virtual

Elizabeth's tower at Westminster, the clock showing the right time.

You can see the level of Euroscepticism, just above 30%, in

1975. Have a look at what happens when I bring in the 2016 result. It

goes above 50%, a majority in England against being part of the

EU. A bigger majority than across the whole of the UK as an average.

We will compare the other part of this nation. Wales in 1975, the

Eurosceptic vote about 35%, but last night it went up again into a

majority, about 53%. Wales and England both a bit more doubtful

about the U and they were 40 years ago. A different story in Northern

Ireland. More Eurosceptic than either Wales or England in 1975,

nearly 50%, but now less so. They are becoming a bit more accustomed

to the EU, just as we are pulling out. You know what is coming in

Scotland. We go back in time. 41% wanting out in 1975, and in the last

24 hours, down to about 37%. It is a divided nation. Scotland wants to

stay in, England is effectively, along with Wales, pulling Scotland

out. An interesting situation. Northern Ireland and Scotland have

become less Eurosceptic and England and Wales more so.

We are waiting to hear, sometime after 8am, from the Prime Minister

at Downing Street. We don't know what he will say, we were

speculating whether he would hint that he might be leaving office,

maybe in the autumn, or whether he would do need -- do the

negotiations. Each time I have spoken to you, you have been cut

off! I have got to be cut off by the leader of my own party! Sadiq Khan

said that project hate was what you were on about doing this campaign.

And that it was an unpleasant, nasty campaign. He attacked Boris Johnson,

but he may just as well have been attacking you. I made criticisms of

campaigns on both sides. It has been difficult for people to talk about

immigration in a rational, Fairway, without being accused of being some

kind of closet racist. That has hurt a lot of people across the country

who felt that they have not been listened to before. Where the Labour

Party has failed over many years is to see that that is something that

really matters to people. It is not being anti-immigration to be able to

talk rationally about how you control numbers of people coming

into the country. No matter how many resources go into things, we need to

know, and we need to get rid of the discrimination against people from

outside the EU, which is very apparent in all those countries,

former Commonwealth countries, parts of Africa and Asia, where it is

difficult for some buddy to come in, yet you can come in unchallenged

from any of those 26 other countries. How could Labour have

talked about this? It is a rule of the EU that they can do that, so the

only way they could have done that is by saying they want to leave the

EU. That is what the Labour Party was, a sceptic party. That changed

because there was a terrible worry about what would happen under

Margaret Thatcher in terms of workers' writes. But everything that

we got in terms of our rights at work are enshrined in British law.

The scaremongering that went on about how we would lose those if we

were to leave, people waking up this morning, some people would think

they have no benefits anymore, maternity rights and so on, and

project fear was completely ignored by huge number is of people,

especially out of London. I was around a lot out of London, it was

so different. The leadership of all the parties did not seem to be

listening to that. It was a very different scene outside London. I

did some rallies last week in the north-east, it was so obvious that

people were not going to follow the leader of the party's view, even

though I believe that the leader of my party... I don't think he is

desperately unhappy today. Why could you only persuade ten of your fellow

MPs? It was 15 in the end. I have always said we were a minority in

Parliament, but I represent, and others do, 45% of Labour voters in

the country. The party was very silly not to allow a much more free

view on this. The idea that they were going to say, you must vote

Labour, but as you vote Labour, you must vote for the EU, it was never

going to work. You say nearly half Labour voters were with you in

voting to leave? All faults we did even a month ago, we had 35 to 45%

of Labour supporters, and the thing that most concerns me is the people

we have lost over the last few years, we will find it difficult to

get them back now, because they have been ignored again by the Labour

leadership. We have a quote from the president of the European Council.

We have been in touch with some of the campaigns in other countries, we

will see a lot of referendums now coming in. Probably Holland. On the

same lines? I think it will be, in one or two of the other... Unless

the EU and the other commissioners see this as a catalyst to start to

change the way they work. I don't think the form is possible. Jeremy

Corbyn believed it is a neoliberal organisation that is dysfunctional,

but he thinks it can be reformed, but I don't. We will have the news

again, and the weather. All important.

Good morning. Britain is to leave the EU, the official was all of the

referendum was announced in the past hour. North-eastern England and the

Midlands voted strongly to leave, but the Remain campaign when a

majority in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Well, at 20 minutes to five, we can now say the decision taken

in 1975 by this country to join the Common market has been reversed

We are absolutely clear now that there is no way

Watch and listen carefully - this is history in the making...

The British people have spoken, and the answer is, we are out.

And these were the celebrations just moments before the BBC

In the last hour, the official result. The total in favour of Leave

was... A final tally of 52% to 48%. Ukip celebrated overnight. By

daylight, things were sinking in. Good morning, everybody. The sun has

risen on an independent United Kingdom. And just look at it, even

the weather has improved. As Leave campaigners celebrated, on the other

side, the blame game started. I absolutely accuse Jeremy Corbyn and

the Labour leadership of utter spinelessness in not involved in

this campaign for Britain Britain's very soul and future. The Labour

leader said he accepted the decision, adding that there was a

clear message from the result. Many communities are fed up with cuts

they have had, fed up with economic dislocation and feel very angry at

the way they have been betrayed and marginalised by successive

governments in very poor areas of the country. And with the pound

plunging, Remain campaigners warned of turmoil ahead. This is a seismic

moment for our country. It goes far beyond all the personalities. There

will be a lot of chat about David Cameron. This is a big thing for our

country. It has exposed a lot of division. There is talk as if this

is an overwhelming win. It isn't. 48% of people on the current

projection did not vote for this. But this prominent Leave campaigners

called for cross-party co-operation. We have a responsibility to act in

the best long-term interests of this country. Voters will now reflect on

their verdict. The instruction they have given to Westminster. But the

magnitude of this moment may only become clear in the weeks and months

ahead. The result has affected the financial markets, with the pound

falling to its lowest point since 1985. When the polls closed, it

rose, but as the Leave result became clear, it began to plummet. The Bank

of England says it is monitoring developments closely. Scotland's

First Minister has suggested that the Leave vote will reignite demands

for an independence referendum there. All 32 Scottish local

authorities returned verdicts for Remain. We will go back to the

results programme in a moment. First, the weather, with Carol. Good

morning. Today, pollen levels are high or very high, except for

northern Scotland, where they are moderate. You will be hugely unlucky

if you catch a shower today in these areas. However, a cross Scotland,

Wales and Northern Ireland, there will be a plethora of showers. Some

of them will be thundery, with some hail. Northern Ireland will have

that mixture of sunshine and showers. There will be lengthy

spells of sunshine in the south-west of England. Showers in the Midlands,

but dry with some sunshine in Kent and also in East Anglia and the

south-east. Heading through the evening and overnight, many of the

showers will fade, but they will continue across the north and the