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Hello and welcome to Politics Europe, your regular guide to the

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top stories in Brussels and Strasbourg. On today's programme:

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David Cameron outlines his demands for EU reform at a summit of

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European leaders in Brussels. But can he get his way on restricting

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benefits for migrant workers? The European Commission announces

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its plan for a new border force capable of sending paramilitary

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guards to shore up the EU's external borders in an emergency, even if

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national governments object. European Parliament approves a

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report which calls for EU action on tax transparency, making large

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corporations announced how much tax they pay, country by country.

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And we report from the Czech Republic, Visio's European capital

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of culture. -- this year's. All of that to come and more in the

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next half hour. I am joined by the Labour MEP and the LibDem MEP. Good

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to see you both. Let us tick off to the guide to Europe in 60 seconds.

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EU leaders met in Brussels where David Cameron attempted to secure

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support. I want to see progress in all of the areas I have mentioned.

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The migrant crisis dominated the agenda again as the commission push

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the idea of a new EU border force. Ideally, Europeans could stop online

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advertisers targeting them and have personal data deleted on request.

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Russia's president seemed to put out as he excluded Ukraine from a trade

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zone of former Soviet countries. President Petro Poroshenko was

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defiant. We pay this price for our freedom. MEPs backbones to prevent

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places becoming tax havens. And a new Steinberg coronations, arguing

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for tough limits. -- standard for car emissions.

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Let us talk about one of these stories in more detail, this report

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on tax avoidance. So if you have approved it. What happens next? When

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do these companies start paying proper tax? As soon as possible.

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Starbucks are paying tax in the UK. They would not have done it if we

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did not find out they were using Luxembourg. This is one of the

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issues that is good for Europe. We can work to be so we do not have

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multinational companies, bigger than a lot of small countries, playing

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fast and loose with tax systems. We can work together and say, you have

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not paid a proper tax and you need to be transparent about it. To

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Europe encouraged these companies to base their intellectual property

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rights in Europe. Luxembourg grabbed them as a low tax base. They pay a

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massive somebody's rights. They deduct VAT from their revenues and

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do not have too pay rates. That is an anomaly. The creation of tax

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havens. What of my colleagues worked on this report. Things as they are

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now, a criticism of Luxembourg and their arrangements as they are now.

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Is that in the report? That is implied. I am happy to say it. We

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have a meeting that is very in tune with people today. Give me a

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prediction, when will all these companies start paying a fair chunk

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of change? Soon, because the public pressure. That is the important

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thing. Now that they know we are on to them. We will see.

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David Cameron insists there is a pathway to a deal. The British Prime

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Minister set out his demands in talks with other EU leaders at a

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summit in Brussels. Mr Cameron said good progress had been made, but

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there is a lot of hard work before the next summit. David Cameron wants

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reform in four the areas. Increased competitiveness by cutting

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regulation, an end to the obligation to closer union and cutting

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immigration by restricting benefits for EU migrants. That last part

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seems to be causing resistance from other leaders. Francois Hollande

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said his initial plan to limit in work benefits for migrants for four

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years was not acceptable. However, Angela Merkel seems to have through

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Mr Cameron something of a lifeline by saying any agreement could be

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enshrined in law. It might be possible, not now but perhaps later.

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Attention turns to the next leader is summit in February, by which time

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Mr Cameron hopes to have the agreement of all fellow leaders.

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Speaking just after midnight, David Cameron said he was pleased his EU

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counterparts had agreed on the need for reform. I would say the good

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news is there is a pathway to an agreement. I am confident after the

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discussion we had. It would be very hard work, not just on welfare, but

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hard work on all of the issues we have put forward, because there are

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substantial, they will involve real change. I think you can see from the

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conclusions published tonight, the nature of the progress, the

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conclusions make very clear that the European Council agreed to work

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closely together to find mutually satisfactory solutions in all four

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areas at the European Council meeting. That was the Prime

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Minister. We are now joined by the Conservative MEP Ian Duncan. For all

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of his brave words, it seems pretty clear the idea of limiting in work

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benefits for four years, that is dead in the water. Should be the

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fallback position? I am not sure of their is dead in the water. -- it is

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dead in the water. Across those states, they are recipients. The EU

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is divided into donor nations and recipient nations. The UK is not

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isolated in this regard. They are dealing with that through benefits.

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So not only do we hope to get major change in British welfare systems

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for migrants, but that is going to be accompanied by major changes in

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France and Italy and Germany? I follow these politics and I have not

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seen anything. We may have to recognise that the UK's benefits do

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not meet up with benefit systems and the other nations. Germany and

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France have no plans to change their systems. Most of them are based on

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an insurance policy. So only cows will have to change. What evidence

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can you present that it would have any more of an April fool effect on

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the number of migrants this country. -- peripheral. The

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current integral part of our system. We want to make sure the benefits

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system is not an attraction, but the support. So you are happy with the

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current net migration figure. The way I look at it, they are part of

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the UK economy. There are so much of what we need. I understand that. I

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am just puzzled that in your last two manifested as you claimed he

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would get figure down to under 100,000. We have the right number of

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migrants doing jobs. That is the important things. My constituency of

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Scotland, we have played home to migrants. My home village has a

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vibrant migrant population. What we want to make sure is the benefits

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themselves are not a draw. Given the levels of migration are one of the

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main motivating forces of people who want to get out of the European

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Union, that is interesting. But also this idea that Mr Cameron might get

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some changes, but they will not be solidified until treaty change,

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which is unlikely before the end of this decade, and a long time after

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he has had his referendum, people will not agree with that. You can

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have an accord based on 27 states and the UK to be clearer. Whether

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that is stitched into treaty change in the next year or so, it they

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should be bound by that agreement. That can be stitched into an accord.

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Isn't that a harder sell? Now we hear that as a possible part of this

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agreement, the Prime Minister, they will say, we have got agreement on

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these changes, but they will not come into law and will not the

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European Court proof until the Treaty changes. What is going to

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happen, the de facto position is that by February he will have a

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package. That fourth part... Had a controversial one. It will be

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something like the 1992 agreement. Why do we know this will happen?

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Donald Tusk. The key part is Francois Hollande, not Angela

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Merkel. He said, OK, four years, I am not against that any more. We

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will be a bit more flexible. That is what he said in the meeting.

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Something in this ballpark. I might not agree with this. I might not

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agree that migration is a positive impact. Do you think migrants should

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get benefits from the moment they arrive in work? Jeremy Corbyn has

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just received at that. -- rescinded. I bring news that it is

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our policy. So Jeremy Corbyn wrong? The office clarified it in the

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Telegraph. Still two years. The point about this is if we need to

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package, if that is the price to pay to get this package together, that

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is fine. We will end up with a package. We need to present

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something to the people. But after that you have to present a wider

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prospectus. The Labour Party will not follow what the Tories are

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doing. We do not know from one day to the next which direction they are

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going. Is any of this worth the referendum?

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It is a huge risk for the country. The last point on free movement is

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never going to be acceptable. The premise that people are coming here

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for benefits is absolutely wrong. The evidence shows they are net

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contributors. They're a huge... And they come here because our

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country... OK. Let me just finish here briefly. Mr Duncan, if you had

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to guess, what month, what year, the referendum?

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It may be June, according to Nigel Farage.

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Now, with the number of migrants and refugees expected to pass 1

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By some accounts, it is already over that.

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European politicians have been debating how to strengthen

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the external borders of the European Union,

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not those between the countries, but between the EU and other countries.

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This week, the European Commission outlined an ambitious plan with

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a new EU Border Force deployed where higher numbers of migrants

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We go to Strasbourg to see whether the plan has any chance

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More than a million migrants and refugees have now crossed its

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Countries like Greece and Italy have long been unable to

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Now, there are calls for an external border and coastguard force.

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We're trying to have a quick reaction force composed

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It is simply member states being able to offer support within three

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days to another member state in trouble.

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The new force would replace Frontex, the EU's existing voluntary border

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Its role, to promote, co-ordinate and develop border management.

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The new European border and coastguard force would have

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The new border force would have 1000 personnel and

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Funding-wise, Frontex receives 143 million euros.

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The new force would get 322 million euros a year.

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But, crucially, this new force would have a mandate to launch an

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emergency intervention, even without the request of an EU member state.

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That will be a tough sell to countries

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like Poland and Hungary who have already shown the opposition.

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Some are even warning that this is the creation of a European army.

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But I think that could be and calm.

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For some MEPs, who are having to adapt to

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heightened security themselves at the Parliament, the idea of

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guards at Europe's borders totally contradicts the spirit of the EU.

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At the border, you cannot turn away people who are

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And this is what Frontex is currently doing in

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So, they will co-operate with Turkish border guard

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so that refugees will not even arrive.

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It is the European Union stopping people from finding protection here.

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But the Paris attacks highlighted the weakness of Europe's external

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borders when it emerged that at least two of the suspects managed

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So what price is Europe prepared to pay to protect itself?

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I give, always, the example of the United States.

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There is no one state, like California, Texas, saying,

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So, we need to do the same thing if we want to secure our borders.

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Catherine, it is far more important than

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you can see why they want to do this.

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Some countries are being asked to create a pan-European coastal guard.

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It is more akin to Europol with co-ordination.

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What it won't do, it will not stop refugees coming.

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If people are adrift at sea and in danger,

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This coastguard would have to take them onto European soil.

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What it might do is help with human traffickers, smugglers, criminals.

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But it will not stop the flow of refugees.

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Until we sort out the source of refugees and stop the fighting...

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But also care for those that are coming.

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I mean, Tim Farren, my leader, has been calling on David Cameron

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to heed the Save the Children campaign to take 3000 orphans that

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are adrift on their own, umm, and at risk of human trafficking.

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How's that gonna work? to have a plan within Europe.

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I warned this week that Frontex is not ready.

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We have a situation where Frontex can do it.

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What is going to happen now, we are going to experiment.

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What I said, I warned the commission,

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They said they are not ready for this.

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The imperative is that they wanted a strengthening

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and balances, you know, we're not playing games here.

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And also, you have to have hotspots and

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It's the external borders of Schengen,

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Well, we have to be working for refugees.

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That is different from the free movement of people within Schengen.

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We have to move on. causing enormous stress.

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This year is Pilsen, is an hour drive from Prague.

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It is sharing the acolade with Mons in Belgium.

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The EU picks two countries to host it every year.

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Then individual cities have to jump through a number

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Or, you could always pop into the exhibition of Baroque art

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Brussels has given 80% of the budget.

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The rest came from the Czech Republic.

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Capitals of Culture usually invest in shiny new info structure.

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They built this quite striking new theatre.

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This old bus depot has been turned into a venue as well.

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The basic idea was to show people how contemporary design

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How, for instance, you can grow your own chair of furniture.

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52 flies trapped in a different class, producing

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Together, they make is more Orchestra.

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Together, they make a small orchestra.

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51 other cities have been capitals of culture

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since the idea was decided by Greek architects a few years ago.

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since the idea was decided by a Greek Arts Minister 30 years ago.

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TRANSLATION: There are some facts we can point to.

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There has already been an increase in people visiting

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the main square. example is the number of people who

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Here, you will discover another Czech talent, brewing.

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A type of beer that has conquered the world.

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Two thirds of beer production in the world are Pilsner style beers.

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Everyone tries to follow that beer, that brewery, and that product.

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And thanks to globalisation it is now owned by an American company.

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They drink more beer per head than any other country.

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That is why it is one of the few places where you can have

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Yeah, I definitely prefer drinking it.

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It is all about building culture across Europe.

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It is good for the country's images as well.

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I'm sure many of them want that legacy.

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That is it for Politics Europe this year.

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