30/10/2015 Politics Europe

a coalition government since then were unsuccessful.

Welcome to Politics Europe. As thousands of people continue to

cross into the EU, we have visited reception centres to find out how

countries are coping. At the Austrian German border, it has

become a key frontline in the European migrant crisis. Up to 1200

migrants have crossed this bridge every day in the last six weeks.

MEPs vote to back a ban on mobile phone roaming charges across the EU,

but there are warnings it could push up prices for UK customers. In the

latest of our Meet the Neighbours series, the right-wing Polish party

takes part. And, was Nigel Farage right to compare the fallout from

Portugal's recent elections with European military interventions? All

that to come. But, here's our guide to the latest from Europe in 60

seconds. European refugee crisis continues with more than 85,000

migrants crossing into Slovenia in the last ten days. Following an

emergency mini summit, the EU agreed to send 400 order guides to help

slow down the floor. The right-wing war in just his party came out on

top in Poland's general election, celebrating the biggest victory

since Poland exited communism. The EU has adopted tougher emissions

tests for cars following the box like a scandal. They are considering

a legal challenge. David Cameron attended a northern future form

Forum in Iceland, there were sceptics at copying Norway. It is

not a good option for Britain. And, good news for your phone bill:

Roaming charges have been scrapped in the EU, meaning that charges will

remain the same as in the UK -- Volkswagon. With us for the next 80

minutes will be the Labour leader of the European Parliament, Mary

Honeyball and you could's deputy leader, Paul Nuttall. Welcome. Let's

take a look at the stories in more detail. This is the vote on mobile

phone roaming charges. We have all complained about the astronomical

cost of using your phone in Europe. Something has been done about it,

finally. This must be welcomed? Very much so. I remember, I was on the

committee when this was first introduced and that was six or seven

years ago. It had been considered for some time before then. We

finally got it through. Roaming charges will be abolished altogether

in 2017. People will be able to go to the EU without paying additional

charges. The cost of using it there will be the same as here? Yes.

What's not to like? Is great for MPs, jetsetters and businessmen

travelling in Europe -- it is. They have no guarantee that these

companies won't push for higher costs within the UK. A group of

mobile phone providers have said they may do it. We could end up with

a situation where a a pension subsidises MEPs and wealthy business

people who travel across Europe. The people who won't benefit from it, if

it is put on to domestic users, will be those who go overseas for a week.

What they will save will be offset. This is absolutely not true. In the

report we have just passed in the European Parliament, there is a

mechanism whereby if roaming charges are increased by providers, the

National regulators can deal with it. I would have thought UKIP would

be pleased with this, it pushes it back to each individual member state

to make the decision. I'm terribly surprised at UKIP's attitude. I

understand. Everyone who travels regularly crossed Europe want this

to happen. -- across. I was there in 2007, they told us what they were

going to do. There is no guarantee this won't be pushed on the domestic

user. But the regulator. That from happening and has the power to do

so? Oh, will they really? Will they? It is not a community service. It is

a hard-nosed business. These people are not going to lose money, the

only way they will claw it back is by putting it on the poor. Just

angry because the EU has actually done something that voters will

understand and be pleased about. No, I am angry that it will be pushed on

to the poor and I am standing up for working-class people. I think UKIP

has got this is absolutely wrong. Time will tell. The EU leaders have

been discussing how to respond to the huge numbers of migrants

arriving at the EU borders from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Sugar

said that the EU is running out of money and is being placed under

strain. They have said Austria should stop waving through as asylum

seekers to Germany, and start processing there applications in

Austria. They have come from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, landing on its

border. We are given to everyone before they passed through. This

family have returned, their relief all too obvious. They have finally

made it to Germany after leaving Syria. They are just a few of nearly

80,000 people who have crossed into the Bavarian border town here. It

has become a front line in this European migrant crisis, with

tensions mounting between authorities in recent weeks. This is

why. Migrants are looked after in this car park, but not registered

here. It is just a staging post for a few days. Today I have talked with

one person who wants to go to Sweden or Finland, but if you talk with the

refugees, they only have Germany as their goal. That's because of the

German Chancellor Angela Merkel's policy to welcome all Syrian

refugees. The reality on the ground for a small town like this is that

life has been turned upside down. TRANSLATION: Everything is more

difficult, naturally the borders are being controlled. There are queues

and people feel they are not as free as before to come and go. The MoU

has voiced his concerns directly to Angela Merkel in Berlin. She told

him she was working tirelessly to find a solution. As the political

pressure mounts, the response locally has been impressive. This

furniture warehouse has been turned into a temporary shelter, run by

volunteers, state police and local government. This is it would have

spent just a matter of hours here before being moved on to the local

train station with 1200 others, to be transported to other cities in

Germany. All those here have just arrived a couple of hours ago. They

will be gone by tonight. How does it feel to be safe here in Germany? So

good. Every single thank you to Germany. The German people have

treated you well? Yes. It is beautiful. Is a huge logistical

operation. The strain on local and national resources is beginning to

show -- it is. TRANSLATION: Our capacity is

limited, although we do have officials and volunteers to help

with the whole process. Basically, we are ready to help, but in the

last few weeks we are reaching a limit. The flow shows no sign of

slowing down. As they moved to their final destination, elsewhere in

Germany, the impact of this mass migration will be felt across Europe

for many years. Reporting from Germany. The scale of the migrant

crisis, it seems so far to be beyond your's ability to resolve? It is

very difficult, and they are refugees. The vast majority of those

coming to Europe are freeing from Syria -- fleeing, they are refugees.

Can we even tell the difference now? I think we need to see this from the

perspective of a humanitarian crisis. We know that Syria's war, it

is very serious. People are not safe. People don't give up their

homes, families, livelihoods and gold cross dangerous this is no

reason. -- go across. It is clearly a humanitarian crisis. The question

is, Europe seems nowhere near working out how to deal with it? It

has been a huge strain on Europe, we have to admit that. Germany alone,

in the last five months have seen 120,000 Syrian refugees. It is a

massive thing. What should the solution be? What should the

European response be? I think the EU needs to work together much more

than it has done. There needs to be a more fair proportion. At the

moment, Germany, Sweden and France have taken most of the refugees. The

EU needs to come to more of an agreement to share them around. It

is just not working very well, although Germany, that clip was very

interesting. Germany has welcomed a lot of refugees and is by the sounds

of it doing a good job. Angela Merkel's has some new problems. I

will come back to that. Surely if Europe is to cope with this, a

massive influx that is not going away, the burden have to be shared?

It does, but it should not be shared across the EU, it should be shared

across the Arab world. If you are happy Middle East and golf Estates,

Qatar, Saudi Arabia, they are not taking anybody in -- gulf states. If

you are coming from Syria, would you want to go there? There were

statistics that said 80% of the people coming were not coming from

Syria. They were coming out of Libya. Not Libya, Afghanistan,

Pakistan... Coming out of Turkey, which is where most of the people

coming to Greece, the overwhelming majority are Syrian. Actually,

Andrew, the authorities are saying that one in three who turn up with a

Syrian passport in Germany turns out to be fake. They are on the Turkish

black-market 500 euros. Islamic State are saying they are going to

flood our continent with Islamist who want to cause us harm. Do you

think we should do something about this? Know who these people are?

Think that is completely alarmist, bordering on being ridiculous. This

is a humanitarian issue. Some of them, very few, maybe terrorists.

Obviously, we need to take action to deal with that, but most of them are

ordinary people who are fleeing from a country where they are absolutely

not safe. How great it is what they have gone through to leave

somewhere, it is overwhelming. The majority are not coming from Syria,

they are mostly young men. Even a German employment agency has advised

there will be 400,000 new welfare claims in Germany because of 80% of

them are qualified and unskilled. Can I ask you a broader question

about this? This seems to be developing into the European

Union's is the crisis, it is much bigger than the euro zone. In the

end the eurozone crisis came down to Greece, a very small part. We have

had Donald task, the president of the European Council, Jean-Claude

Juncker, the president of the European Commission, all saying in

their own ways this is an existential crisis for Europe.

Europe, they have all said, in different language, may not survive

this. Obviously there is massive concern and the fact that all three

of the institutions, the heads are saying this, means that we do need

to deal with it. The point is though, Andrew, that often

existential crises seem to happen to the EU. As you said, the eurozone,

Europe does have an ability to get through this. I think this is a

massive crisis and it is a crisis not only for Europe for the Middle

East as well. Well, we're going to stick with the European crisis but

were going to narrow into one particular country now. The UKIP

leader Nigel Farage got to his feet in the Parliament to denounce the

position of Portugal's President to invite the leader of the

centre-right party which was the governing party before the election

to attempt to form another government despite the fact that

when you added up all the country's different left-wing parties, they

didn't fight is a coalition but when you add them up they would have won

a majority of votes in the general election. This is what Nigel Farage

had to say this is the modern day implementation of the Brezhnev

doctrine. This is exactly what happened to states living inside the

USSR. What has been made clear here, with Greece, and indeed with

Portugal, is that a country only has democratic rights if it is in favour

of the project. If not, those rights are taken away. Nigel Farage

speaking in the European Parliament on Tuesday. We asked our reporter to

swot up on a Portuguese Constitution. Just talk us through

what happened. The biggest party was the centre-right party which had

been in government but it didn't have enough to form an overall

majority so what did the President, who is the head of state, what then

happened? Well, Andrew, let me prove to you that I've done my homework

and have read up on the Constitution. So I found the right

bits and in order for the President to choose the Prime Minister he must

consult the parties seats with in the assembly of the Republic and

made his decision in light of the electoral result. So let's take it

back a notch. On four October there was an election in Portugal. As you

mention, the centre-right incumbent Prime Minister was the largest party

but lost his majority in the Parliament. The President then duly

announced that he would be picked as the Prime Minister, and would run a

minority government. So far so simple. But here are the

complicating factors. First up we have the reason that the President

gave for appointing the centrist right party, and he appeared to be

suggesting that it was because he essentially didn't like the policies

of the other left-wing parties. He thought... It sounded like he was

saying they were to enter Europe and to anti-austerity. He is reported as

saying that in 40 years of democracy no government in Portugal has ever

depended on the support of anti- European forces and that this is the

worst moment for a radical change to the foundations of our democracy.

That means us on neatly to complicating factor number two.

Previously there hasn't been a viable left-wing coalition that

essentially would be able to go up against the centrist right. Now it

would seem that the Portuguese Socialist is, led by Antonio Costa,

have managed to form an alliance with the left bloc in the

Communist, to essentially come up with a coalition of moderate left

and far left. And what they are suggesting, that combined they would

be far bigger than the incumbent Prime Minister. What they have said

they will do is in the next few days put up a vote of no-confidence,

which would essentially bring down that minority government. And then

would expect the Prime Minister to then had to appoint the left-wing

Prime Minister. Thank you very much for that interesting explanation.

What does this have to do with the Brezhnev doctrine. Are their tanks

in the streets of Lisbon? The Brezhnev doctrine basically says,

doesn't it, that you can have a veneer of democracy as long as you

agree with socialism as it was back then and the USSR. This has all been

turned on its head. Brussels doesn't have its mitts directly on this but

equally I would say it does follow a pattern, doesn't it? Let me finish.

Silvio Berlusconi, for example... We are talking about Portugal, it is

widely regarded that the President's speech was ill judged.

But constitutionally he is perfectly within his rights to ask the largest

party, which is the centre-right party, the former government. It is

also quite clear that if it tries to form a government, there will be an

immediate vote of confidence, it will probably lose that vote of

confidence in the President has indicated that he will then ask the

centre-left party to try to form a government and the centre-left party

will ask the Portuguese communists and another left-wing party to give

them an overall majority. That will all happen within two weeks. Where

are the tanks in this? Well, there doesn't have to be tanks for the

Brezhnev doctrine. So in the end, the Portuguese will have a

government. What we are talking about is an overall trend here. It

happened in Italy, it happened in Greece, where it they also wanted a

referendum on the euro, only to be removed overnight. I am trying to

stick with Portugal just for the moment. Also what you're going to

get is the Portuguese President, having done this in the next couple

of weeks, will then resign. His final act will be to put in power

centre-left government that is opposed, two of whose parties out of

three are opposed to European austerity. So I'm trying to work out

where... I know in Twitter there has been a huge storm about this

encouraged by Nigel Farage and yourself. I accept that his speech

was well -- ill judged, but in the end they will get the parliament

they want. Over 50% voted for the left. I do hope they get the

government but there is a trend of a lack of democracy in Europe. I

wanted to speak to him because they have been making a row. But we have

a tank watch in Lisbon and in the next few weeks, if they appear... I

wouldn't hold your breath. Portugal isn't the only country to have gone

to the polls recently. On Sunday the people of Poland voters in the right

wing Law and Justice party. European allies of David Cameron's

conservatives. In the latest of our meet the neighbours series, Adam

Fleming has been to Gdansk on Poland's North Coast. The Poles have

just been to the polls so I have been to the place where an

electrician sparked democracy in this country. This is the famous

gate number two, where it was announced the Polish authorities

were going to recognise solidarity. The first independent trade union in

the Soviet lock. It eventually led to the first free elections in 1989.

A corner of the shipyard is now a giant Izzy and dedicated to

solidarity. The movement, and the idea. You can see the van he climbed

on to make speeches, and check out plenty of retro interior design. Or

why not recreate the talks to form the first non-Communist government?

But the centreposmac boss is worried that solidarity is something that

Poland is lacking these days. We are becoming Euro critical, but we are

not Great Britain. We don't have your wealth, you're strong political

position and we are located in a very special place in Europe. Is

worried because the euro sceptics Law and Justice have just become the

first party to form a majority government in the post-communist

era. The new Prime Minister, though the real power lies with this man

who ran the country with his twin brother when the party was last in

power a decade ago. Their candidates were anti the euro, suspicious of

immigrants and critical of companies. -- foreign companies.

They have quite weak posters, but they? To find out the secrets of

their success, I met Philip, the leader of the youth wing. The

justice say the title in Polish? OK, that's quite hard. We had many

people who have wanted to create the ideas, the innovations, have wanted

to make the companies they are, and because of the economic situation,

taxation of the government, they decided to leave. And his party is

planning to be fairly tough on the EU. We have many, many problems with

our economic ideals in the European Union, for example our ship

companies were destroyed by the European Union. Law and Justice will

want to make an agreement with Great Britain to stop the interference of

the European Union. Although David Cameron's plan to restrict benefits

to the 700,000 Poles working in the UK is a bit cheeky. Back at the

Solidarity Centre you are supposed to write something for the giant

wall when you leave. But what message is Poland now sending to the

rest of Europe? We have had a Marxist government elected in

Greece, we are going to have, I suspect, Portuguese government of

the left, dependent on hardline Portuguese communists. We have a

right wing government now in Poland. We have a right wing

government, not a centre-right government, in Denmark. We got the

Swedish Denmark is holding the balance of power in Sweden. I would

suggest to you the mainstream is crumbling in Europe. I'm not sure is

crumbling but I certainly think the mainstream has challenges. Polish

result is interesting. I have talked to Polish colleagues about the

result. There seems to be quite a generational issue here. In that the

older people have had... They have invested in the housing they have

under communism and they are relatively well off and polished

terms, whereas the young people aren't. This seems to be one of the

big problems. I will have to stop you there. Thanks. Goodbye.

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