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A very warm welcome to the Scottish parliament at Holyrood. Earlier

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today MSPs were taking evidence from Greg Hands and John Swinney on the

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deal that they stroke, the fiscal framework that liberates the

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possibility of new tax and welfare powers. It might be matter is

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monetary that also arise in questions to the First Minister. It

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could be the announcement she made on council tax yesterday.

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Let's crossed to the chamber and Glenn Campbell. They are talking

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about railways at the moment. Other topics that have come include

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fracking, tourism, the islands and also a question on deposit returns

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for a fizzy drink bottles. Lots to talk about at Holyrood as we get

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under way with First Minister's Questions. A welcome from the

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presiding officer to a delegation. The Ambassador of the kingdom of the

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Netherlands. Applause for the Ambassador from the

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Netherlands. We now move to First Minister --

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First Minister's Questions. To ask the First Minister what

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engagements she has planned for the day. To take forward the government

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programme for Scotland, including meeting people from a primary school

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to celebrate world book Dale foot -- world book Day.

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For years, the SNP have promised to abolish the hated council tax. It

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was in their 2007 and 2011 manifestos. Thousands of leaflets

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were delivered, billboard after billboard was plastered with the

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promise to scrap the unfair council tax. The only thing she scrapped

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yesterday was the council tax freeze. She could have broken her

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promise on day one. I did it take ten years?

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Since 2007, we have made sure there have been eight years, soon to be

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nine years, of a council tax freeze, saving the average band geek council

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taxpayer ?1500. Labour have moaned about that every single step of the

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way. What we announced yesterday our plans to make local tax fairer. Or

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as Professor David Bell described on the radio this morning, certainly

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progressive. And we also set out how, with new tax powers, we will

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make the funding of council services in the future more closely related

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to income. Something that Labour has also opposed for many years. Now we

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are doing this in a fair way. A council tax freeze will remain in

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place for the next year. After that, the council tax will be capped. We

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cannot go back to the bad old days when Labour increased council tax by

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60%. The band reforms will mean that people on the highest bands will pay

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more with exemptions for those on lower incomes, including pensioners.

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Three out of four households will not pay a single penny more. And

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lower-income households with children will pay less. Out of that

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we will raise an additional ?100 million per year for education.

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These are fair, balanced and reasonable proposals, which is

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probably why labour oppose them. We will get rid once and for all of

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the unfair council tax. The words of the First Minister. And of course

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voters should have known that when the First Minister said she would

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get rid of the council tax, what she really meant was that she would keep

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it. The whole process has been a sham. Here is the SNP formula.

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Condemn it, freeze it, order a big report and go ahead and do it

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anyway. And it is not just the council tax. The SNP say fracking is

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bad and have opposed a temporary freeze. A big report has been

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ordered but all the signs are that they are going to go ahead and do it

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anyway. Labour would not allow fracking in Scotland. Can the First

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Minister give that guarantee? Before we move on from local

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taxation, which I am keen still to talk about, unlike Labour clearly.

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Order. Let me give Labour some helpful advice. Before Kezia Dugdale

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decides to adopt her usual position of whingeing from the sidelines, and

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criticise the SNP policy on local taxation, it might be a good idea to

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have a policy on local taxation yourself. Labour talk about reports.

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Iain Gray is sitting next to Kezia Dugdale right now. In 2009, Iain

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Gray, then the Labour leader, set up a commission to decide what Labour's

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policy on local taxation was going to be. The outcome of that

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commission has never, ever been published. So we still don't know

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what Labour's position on local taxes. Before you criticise hours,

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please have the good grace to come with one of your own. On the issue

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of fracking, Kezia Dugdale has just heard the Energy Minister -- Energy

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Minister set out the clear position of this government. We will not

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allow fracking. If you don't like -- they don't like the answer but

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perhaps they might like to listen. We will not allow fracking in

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Scotland because we will not take risks with our environment while

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there are still unanswered questions. That is why we have got a

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moratorium in place. Her backbenchers do not like her

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answer on fracking because they oppose it. All across the country

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SNP candidates are telling voters they will be no fracking under the

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SNP. The same people who promised to scrap the council tax. People

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deserve the truth. We know where the Tories stand. They are for it. The

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Lib Dems voted for it at their Conference. The Greens are against

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it. I have said where I stand. Scottish Labour will go into the

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election with a very clear manifesto commitment. We will oppose fracking.

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If Jim Ratcliffe of any us can get a straight answer, why can't the

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people of Scotland? Fracking or no? No fracking in Scotland because

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there is a moratorium on fracking. That is what a moratorium means. It

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ain't allowed to happen because we will not take risks with our

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environment while there are so many unanswered questions. That is the

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responsible way of proceeding. Of course, Labour stand up your week

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after week and say whatever they like about what they would do,

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because as we already know from Kezia Dugdale, they are going to

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come second in the election. Presiding officer, Jim Ratcliffe

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says he has had private assurances from her government that the SNP are

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not against fracking. He says, they are being quite clear. What they

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have said to us is that they are not against fracking. What does he know

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that we do not? The Department of energy plan it is have agreed to

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stop limiting conversations on fracking. Her government has

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tendered for research into decommissioning on fracking. If she

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is not planning to Phrack, why is she preparing for the clean-up? Is

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the SNP promised to stop fracking a real promise, or is it just an

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election pledge? First Minister, I know that Labour are desperate. And

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I know why Labour are desperate. But this really does take the biscuit.

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Just for the avoidance of doubt again, there is a moratorium on

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fracking. It is clear and simple. There is a moratorium on fracking.

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That means no fracking. Question number two, Ruth Davidson.

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To ask the First Minister when she will next meet the Secretary of

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State for Scotland. I have no immediate plans. This

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morning the Defence Secretary announced extra funding to help

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support our naval base on the Clydebridge which are welcome. We

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First Minister and I have an honest disagreement about the decision to

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renew our nuclear deterrence and four remain earning -- integral part

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of the UK's defence. We should all be able to agree on one thing. That

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if the submarines go, the jobs go. Does the First Minister agri-? No, I

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support the continuation of Faslane as a naval base, a conventional

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naval base. I do not believe we should be spending ?167 billion and

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rising on nuclear weapons that we cannot afford, that are not the

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appropriate defence of our country. That kind of money would be better

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spent supporting jobs, not just in the defence industry but across

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public services as well. The First Minister is flying in the

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face of the evidence. The GMB union has said... Order! The Defence

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Secretary says thousands of highly skilled jobs would disappear. And

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even the local SMP -- MSP, Jackie Baillie, Labour's long-range, admits

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this morning that nobody has come up with a credible plan to replace

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those jobs. The loss of that employment would devastate my local

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community. Perhaps she has in mind Jeremy Corbyn's new position, that

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we should build the submarines, keep the jobs but stick the missiles in a

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shed. I know the First Minister linked arms with the Labour leader

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in London last week, but please tell me she does not agree with him on

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that as well? He referred -- he refused to turn up until after I had

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left, for some unknown reason! I will leave that to him to explain. I

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have to say to Ruth Davidson, when it comes to the point where you have

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to call Jackie Baillie, it really should tell you your arguments have

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got rather threadbare. On the serious issue of defence jobs, Ruth

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Davidson should look at the numbers of defence personnel in Scotland and

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what has happened to those numbers under this Conservative government.

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We have seen a haemorrhaging of conventional defence jobs. We have

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seen the closure of bases. We have seen our forces take a hammering as

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a result of Tory austerity. The report done a year or so back on the

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question of whether Trident should be renewed, set out very clearly the

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price that conventional forces pay through the accession with Trident.

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My position is clear. Support our conventional forces, supported

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Faslane as a naval base, but let's not spend obscene amounts of money

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on obscene nuclear weapons when there is so much more we could do

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with it. Colin Beattie. To ask the First

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Minister what steps the Scottish government is taking to support the

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107 workers in Greggs bakery in my constituency, whose jobs are now

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under threat as a result of the company's decision to close this

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facility? I was very concerned, as I know the member would have been, to

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learn of the situation. I know this will be a very anxious time for the

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employees and their families. As soon as the announcement was made,

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we immediately contacted the company to offer support for employees.

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Fergus Ewing will be speaking with Management today and with union

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representatives to explore all possible options for supporting the

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Midlothian site and its workforce. We will continue to engage and

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monitor the situation closely, and I will ask Fergus Ewing to update the

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member after his discussions later today.

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Willie Rennie. To ask the First Minister what issues will be

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discussed at the next meeting of the Cabinet. Matters of importance to

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the people of Scotland. Last week the First Minister cut hundreds of

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millions of pounds from education budgets. She said she had no choice.

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But she would bring those cuts to an end as soon as she had the powers.

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This week she announced extra money for education. She did so without

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gaining one single additional power at all. The cruel twist for children

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is that they will not see a single penny until next year. The First

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Minister could have invested this money, this year, why didn't she? As

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Willie Rennie will presumably know, because he was here when John

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Swinney made the announcement in the budget last week, we are also

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doubling the education attainment font, starting in the financial year

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about to start. As a result of the announcement made yesterday, from

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2017 we will invest an additional ?100 million in education. That, I

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think, is welcome investment that will be welcomed by people across

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Scotland even if not by Willie Rennie. I know that the Lib Dem

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position is that having spent the last five years helping the Tories

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cut our budget, they want to spend the next five years hiking up the

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taxes of everyone earning over ?11,000 a year. That is not my

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position. I will continue to argue for a fair and balanced approach

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which gets money into education. Last week, she told us she would cut

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education budget, even though she said, even though she said education

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was her top priority. Massive cuts for one year. It could set back a

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child's chances for a lifetime. Scotland used to have one of the

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best education systems in the world. It has now slipped down the

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international rankings. The situation is urgent, 1p on income

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tax would generate five times as much for education now down her

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timid and tardy proposals would next year. Even though she had all the

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powers, she still could education budgets last week. Surely the First

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Minister can no longer boast education is her top priority.

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Willie Rennie is making things up as he goes along. Gross revenue

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expenditure on education has increased in each of the last three

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years, Council plans show that in this financial year the spending, a

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further ?150 million. The finance secretary announced a doubling of

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the tame and Bund, I announced plans that results in an extra ?100,000 of

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education. A 1p increase on the basic rate, let me remind Willie

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Rennie, would hit every single person earning over ?11,000 a year.

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I do not think that is the right approach. In terms of world rankings

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of education, the desire to see Scottish education being the best in

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the world is why we have embarked on a workaround the national

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improvement framework. Willie Rennie has opposed us on that every single

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step of the way, so instead of moaning from the sidelines as he is

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becoming good at, then maybe he should get behind the sensible

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policies do improve our education system. To ask the business to what

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the Scottish Government has done to encourage people to access modern

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apprenticeships. The most recent... We are taking action to ensure that

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we are supporting modern apprenticeships. We have a target

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we've met every year of 25,000 modern apprenticeships. The fair

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works secretary announced we were increasing that the 26,000 on the

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way to making sure we reach 30000 by 20 20. Can I thank the First

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Minister for her answer? I met with two modern apprentices on Monday.

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They have taken on eight modern apprenticeships, with other

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apprentices being taken on throughout Scotland. Can I ask how

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the modern pension programme contributed to youth employment

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levels, which I notice at the highest level in a decade? Modern

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apprentice chips are a key element of our approach to economic

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development and to youth employment -- apprenticeships. We have seen

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them have a big impact on our youth employment rates. You've employment

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in Scotland is at its highest level since 2006, and over the last year,

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you've employment rate increased by 4%. There was an increased the

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number of young people in employment by 19,000, taken it to 360 8000. The

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youth employment strategy sets out a seven-year employment plan --

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368,000. The seven year action plan you

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mentioned includes the equalities plan. Could she update what progress

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has been made on that, in helping disabled young people into

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apprenticeships? The modern apprenticeships equality plan was

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published on the 2nd of December and includes plans to improve modern

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apprenticeships, for disabled people and on gender balance. The targets

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have been included in each group which have to be achieved by 2021,

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and we will report these annually. It is not a change which will happen

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overnight, but it is a change we are determined to see happen. Can the

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First Minister tell us what plans the Scottish Government has for its

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share of the UK Government's apprentice ship levied when it comes

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to Scotland? If he can get onto his colleagues in Westminster and get us

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the details, we may be able to answer the question. We have been

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pressing the Treasury and indeed other ministers and UK Government

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and officials to get that information, and we will continue to

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do so. When we know what the situation as we will try to make

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sure we make get as positively as we can. In light of the third Force

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News article by the Scottish children services, indicating 0.4%

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of modern friendships start in 2014, this is in stark contrast to the

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8.6% of the working population aged 16 to 24 who have a disability.

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Could the First Minister outlined the work being undertaken with

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employers as part of the action plan to ensure the 2021 target of

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increasing the number of modern friendships for those with

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disabilities is achieved? Working with employers is part of the action

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plan, because it is employers we need to persuade the benefit of

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making sure we have a more diverse population in the programme, that is

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at the heart of the action plan. The target I have spoken about

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challenging targets, they will not be reached overnight, but progress

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is already being made following the publication of the action plan. We

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have seen some improvement in the proportion of starts from people

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reporting a disability. 3% is up on last year, and a slight improvement

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on those from a minority, ethnic group. There's a lot of work to be

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done, but those figures are promising and the work that are set

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out in the action plan gives me confident we will see further

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progress in the years to come. If modern apprentices are so important,

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can I ask her, why is she could the skills of in Scotland budget in real

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terms? Why is she planning a cut of 50% in support for hospitality and

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retail apprentices until 2020? Ken McIntire show will know... He will

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know we are meeting our targets on modern pensions, we have a record

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number, 20 5000. It was announced it will increase to 26,000, and we set

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a target to get that to 30,000 by 2020. Instead of this constant,

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continual whingeing from the sidelines, can't Labour get behind

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us when we are making progress on such an important issue? To ask the

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first Minster what the Scottish Government is doing to ensure young

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people with new logical conditions receive appropriate care. -- new

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logical. -- neurological. An assessment will reflect the clinical

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assessment, and evidence of the practice, and we are investing ?250

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million in social care partnerships to protect and grow social care

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services, and also investing 11.6 million to implement self support,

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increasing the availability of social care so more people can stay

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at home with their families and friends are doing the things that

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give their lives meaning. Can I thank the First Minister for that

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response? She will be aware of Sue Ryder's report of young people with

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neurological problems being put in all the people care homes because of

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lack of care. It highlighted health reports don't know how many people

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have neurological conditions, and indeed what their needs. It is

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difficult to see how the health and social care spending will impact on.

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More than that,... Who are supposed to have mandatory delivery plans for

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neurological services have them. What will the Scottish Government

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do? Will they show leadership and drive forward a strategy for people

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with neurological conditions? I am aware of the report, and I think

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they make a lots of very important and indeed very legitimate point in

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that report. It is many of the points, including the one Rhoda

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Grant highlights, a people under 65, that is driving the work I spoke

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about, the review that health care improvements are undertaken about

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how quality of care for people with temp... Conditions can be enhanced

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in all care settings. As I said, there are clinical standards in

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place for neurological services, which were implemented in 2010, but

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the review will allow us to ensure they up to date. The extra

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investment in social care is pertinent here, because it we invest

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properly in social care, we develop the services that enable people,

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where ever possible, to stay in and be cared for in their own homes, and

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that is an important part. What measures are there in our penal

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system to identify and assist those who may be suffering from

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neurological conditions. That is a good point, I'm happy to asked the

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Justice Secretary to write to Christine Grahame with detail, both

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of what we already do in our prison system to deal people with

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neurological conditions, and whether there may be more we can and should

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be doing. There are a number of people in our prison system who do

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need a lot of care and support, because perhaps some of the reasons

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they end up in prisons are not properly dealt with in the first

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place. I am more than happy to ask the Justice Secretary to write

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further to Christine Grahame on that issue. One of the recommendations in

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the report was the need for the development of a method for

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collecting and presenting data on the prevalence of tempered macro

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conditions. Does the First Minister agree on the portals of a copper

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retentive database? I do, that was one of the many recommendations made

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by Sue Ryder that was important and sensible. I can tell the chamber

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that Doctor John Paul Leach was appointed as the new chair to the

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national advisory committee for tempered macro conditions, and we

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will work with them to improve the methods of collecting and presenting

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data -- neurological conditions. That is how we make sure services

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are improved on. Having suffered eight haematoma myself to and half

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years ago, and been blessed with an excellent recovery after the work at

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Aberdeen Royal Infirmary, can the First Minister give us an update of

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the support provided for that department with which it works

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closely, and its treatment of such conditions and inflation to young

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people. I know the Aberdeen Royal Infirmary has identified local

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clinical leaders in the care of younger people, this is to be

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commended. I recognise the efforts of clinicians and support staff

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across the country in neurology. It is through joint working that we see

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between Aberdeen and Inverness and rip primary care that people of all

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ages are supported by local clinical teams, addressing any rehabilitation

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needs as they return home. Some of the work done in Aberdeen is

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excellent, and I'm sure other areas could look to it usefully. I wonder

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if the First Minister to tell us the neurological Alliance has in fact

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received I'd direct grant. -- a direct grant. How they'd been

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funded? I will look into that issue and write to the member with details

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on it. To ask the First Minister what the Scottish Government's

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bazillion is on the BBC's proposal to introduce a Scottish Six

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programme -- position. In some respects, the BBC has to catch up

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with those changes and deliver news programme in which reflects the

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complexity and bred tea of life in Scotland, so we do welcome proposals

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to introduce a new service for BBC Scotland, and I am sure it will draw

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on the very best of our journalistic talent to reduce programmes of the

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very highest standard. I am interested in the point she has just

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made about the most important consideration being in the ability

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of BBC Scotland to harness the best talent so it will deliver the

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highest possible standards when it comes to reporting UK, international

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and Scottish news. Will she also agreed this should be entirely free

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from governments and politicians, some of whom have sought to

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influence what is broadcast on the BBC? I do. I am very happy to agree

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that the Conservative UK Government should stop interfering in the BBC.

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As you do quite often. Yes, on a serious note, I do agree with that

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point. I think there is a very interesting debate here, but there

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is an exciting opportunity. I understand that might be people in

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Scotland who don't think this is required, that it is maybe not

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something necessary. What I struggle to understand those who argue that

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somehow in Scotland, and BBC Scotland in particular, aren't up to

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producing a dedicated news programme with a journalistic talent we have.

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Of course they are. It would be a great addition, and I am very

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supportive of it. Does the First Minister agree the establishment of

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a Scottish Six would provide great opportunities for those individuals,

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who are currently being trained at college in Aberdeen in broadcast

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and, and would allow them to attain your skills in Scotland rather than

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having to seek opportunities elsewhere? That is a really good

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point. We should be trying to see more opportunities for those who

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want to pursue a career in journalism. This is a matter of

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great regret to all others, how much difficulty some sections of the

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media are in and the pressures that are on the newspaper industry, and

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the announcements that have been about redundancies and job losses,

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so anything that is about reversing that trend and critic more

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opportunities for pride journalistic get on in Scotland is something we

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should be united behind. Before I end First Minister's

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Questions, can I thank all of the party leaders. An additional ten

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backbench members were able to ask the First Minister a question. I

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intend to circulate this video to the party leaders. I hope you will

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watch it and I hope we will repeat next week. Thank you very much. Some

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gentle chiding from the presiding officer to those who occasionally go

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on a bit longer. A mixed bag today. From the council tax to fracking, to

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Faslane Trident, and the future of the BBC. The First Minister

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referring to bright young journalists. 23 isn't bad.

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your subsidies? Do you want money from the British government, and

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then you can lobby the British government on how they spend

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