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A very warm welcome to the Scottish Parliament here at Holyrood. Here,

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as else #, the political focus is very much

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upon that remarkable debate in the Commons and that decision to launch

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air strikes against Syria which indeed those strikes are now

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underway. I gather the First Minister may have some remarks to

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make on that subject at the start of her question session. Let's cross to

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the chamber now. Shona is on her feet answering the last of the

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scheduled questions on the issue of NHS waiting times. As soon as she

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brings her answer to a close, we'd expect the Presiding Officer to

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begin the session of First Minister's Questions where we expect

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the First Minister to make comments on Syria. Later today, I will have

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discussions to take forward our plans to host at the invitation of

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the United Nations annish tiff to help prepare Syrian women for peace

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building. On that note, I'm sure we' mindful that British service

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personnel are in action over Syria. Notwithstanding by opposition to

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this action, my thoughts and my good wishes are very much with them at

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this time. However, I remain deeply drubbed by the decision of the UK

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Government to take the country into conflict with no strategy, no exit

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plan and against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of Scotland's

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MPs. Like the First Minister, I did not support extending air strikes

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into Ceri. However, with British Forces now involved we must come

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together to support the brave men and women in our armed forces. I'm

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sure the First Minister will join with me extending the support of

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this Parliament to them. There's another issue of significance in the

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papers this week. It's climate change. This week, the First

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Minister announced she'd attend the climate summit in Paris. I'm sure

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she, like me, looked at David Cameron's appearance there with a

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mixture of demusement and anger. The Prime Minister told delegates the

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earth was in peril and there would be no excuses for this generation of

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politicians if they don't act. This is a Prime Minister who undermined

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the renewable industry by slashing subs did I. He can aide the one

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billion carbon capture in storage competition. Does this Government

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agree this posturing from the merriment in Paris was sheer Hib ok

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Si? -- hypocracy. Here's something we may not hear, yes, I do agree

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with that 100%. As world leaders meet in Paris over the course of

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this week and I were deed next week to hopefully come to an agreement

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that will help the world better tackle climate change, it is income

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bant on all of us, including the Scottish Government, to make sure

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our politician and practices, what we do ourselves at home is commence

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rate with the rhetoric we use about climate change. I will be proud to

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represent Scotland on Monday in Paris. I'll take our message and use

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that, I hope, as a motivation and spur to others to follow suit. I

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absolutely deplore some of the decisions being take why enby the UK

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Government. Decisions which undermine our efforts and the

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decision imcommented on in the chamber last week to cancel the

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carbon capture competition. I think it is damaging to our efforts to

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reduce emissions and tackle climate change, it is deeply damaging to our

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reputation amongst the business community. We'd two FTSE 100

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companies entering this competition in good faith devoting time and

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effort and it is nothing short of a disgrace it has been cancelled at

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the last minute. I'm glad the First Minister agrees with me. But she's

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going to Paris in her own words to show that our world leading targets

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set the benchmark that the international community needs to

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match. Presiding Officer, this Parliament unanimously set those

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targets in 2009. When the first minister tells the community she has

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the most ambitious target in the world will she remember to tell them

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she hasn't hit those targets once? I would encourage Kezia Dugdale to

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study in some detail all of the facts and information around this. I

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hope we can continue to come together as one on this important

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global issue. But when we set the target for 2013 back in 2010, the

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reduction in carbon we anticipated at that time was 31.7%. Thafrs the

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target we anticipated we would have to reduce emissions by. In actual

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fact, what we have achieved is 38.4% from the 1990 base Ryan. The only

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reason why that means we still haven't met the target is because of

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the increases to that baseline. Fixed annual targets were missed

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because of improvement to the way the data was calculated with added

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10.6 mega tons to the baseline. That's equivalent to all waste

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management, public sector buildings. We've excited the reduction we

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anticipated but, because of the increase in the baseline, that means

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we haven't met the target. I would have thought... This is actually

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factual information I'm sharing with the Chamber. The opposition, if we

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are serious about the rhetoric that is used, the very welcome rhetoric

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Kezia Dugdale has just used, we should do two things. We should

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celebrate the progress we are making in Scotland and use that to

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encourage others to make similar progress. But we should also not

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rest on our Lawrence. We should be determined to continue to make

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progress. It may be abop rat Presiding Officer to end with a

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quote from Professor Jim Skeigh a comment he made back in the summer

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this year. If you divide where Scotland is now as to where it was

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in 1990, it was among the world leaders. That is unam big ewous --

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unambiguous. There's more spin in that answer than your average wind

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turbine. The First Minister's Government has never hit a climate

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change target. On Monday, we saw one reason why. The report on public

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sector climate change duties was published. Yet again, the Scottish

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Government missed their own target to cut emissions from their own

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activities. No wonder. This report shows that the Government's use of

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vehicles, taxis and private cars all actually increased in the last year.

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So, if her own Government can't hit their targets, how can she lecture

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did the rest of the world on their duty to do the same? I really think

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Labour should raise its game if it wants to raise issues of such global

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importance. What I've just farated to the Chamber is factual

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information about the performance of Scotland. Something, I think when it

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has been praised by the UK committee on climate change, when we've people

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like Desmond tutu and the head of the UN climate body saying in a

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letter to the Environment Minister in August this year, Scotland's

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ambition to Cree tackle climate change is a shining example. When

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people across the world are saying that about Scotland, why is it that

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Scottish Labour are the only ones still trying to talk down the

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achievements of our country? What I will do... What I will do Presiding

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Officer is I will go to Paris on behalf of the people of this

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country. I will encourage others to follow the lead that is recognised

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as being set by Scotland. But here at home, I will also make sure we

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continue to challenge ourselves. The progress I have outlined to the

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chamber shows we have actually excited the reduction in emissions

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we set back in 2010. But, because we know the whole world, not just

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Scotland, needs to go further, we'll continue to raise our sights and

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raise our ambitions. Raising our sights and am Bigses is what

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characterises this Government and it puts us in stark contrast to the

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opposition. Let's see if the First Minister is raising her game on

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climate change. She's about to get control over a key environmental

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tax, air passenger duty. What is her plan for this green tax? She wants

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to abolish it. The Government's own figures show abolishing APD will

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increase emissions by 50,000 tons a year. To put that in context, the

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First Minister could fly to Paris and back every day for 200 years and

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do less damage to the environment. So the First Minister heads to Paris

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next week, head of a Government that's missed its own targets four

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years in a row. Is unable to control their own emissions and plans to

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abolish environmental taxes. When it comes to hypocracy and climate

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change, isn't the First Minister giving the Prime Minister a run for

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his money? I won't be flying to Paris on Sunday. I'll be taking the

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train to Paris on Sunday! Secondly, Presiding Officer, Kezia Dugdale's

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argument around APD as it relates to the environment might have more

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force in the revenue from APD was hype O'Kated to spend on reducing

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emissions. It's not. It is simply a rev enenewe raising measure for the

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UK Government. Of course, the reason why, some of us were last night at

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the annual dinner of the Scottish chambers of the commerce speaking to

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a wide range of I business people there focussed on trying to

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internationalise the Scottish economy. Grow the export base of the

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Scottish economy. I suspect there was considerable consensus reducing

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APD is an important measure to create jobs, improve our transport

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links and help our business community grow their exports. We'll

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continue to make sure that as a Government we are pursuing policies

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that help promote equality and social justice. That help promote

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our environment but also help to make sure that we have a vibrant

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growing economy. It is in a balanced approach to governing this country

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which mean the SNP are standing here and Labour are sitting over there.

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I'd like to add my gratitude to the brave service personnel who will be

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involved in this necessary military action in Syria. As too often

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before, their self-less efforts abroad do all ensure and help to

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keep us living safely at home. Can I ask the First Minister when she will

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next meet the Secretary of State for Scotland? I have no plans in the

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future. The SNP's policy of free university education is failing

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poorer stoodents. A new report by Universities UK today shows poorer

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students in Scotland are only half as likely to go to university than

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those across the rest of the UK and the gap is getting wider. Five weeks

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ago, I raised this issue with the First Minister suggesting a graduate

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contribution could help restore bursary funding which has been

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gutted by this SNP Government. These are bursaries which support poor

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students who otherwise couldn't get a foot through the door. When this

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SNP Government came to office, bursary support stood at ?104

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million per year. Can she tell me what the figure will be next year?

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We'll continue to make sure we have a funding support package for our

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students that supports students, particularly those from the poorest

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backgrounds, to go to college and to university. But I actually cannot

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believe that Ruth Davidson has come to this chamber today and raised the

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issue of bursaries with this Government. Because, doesn't she

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remember that George Osborne, of the Conservative Party, which the last

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time I looked was the same party Ruth Davidson is a member of, stood

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up in the House of Commons last week to deliver his autumn spending

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statement and announced that the UK Government are going to abolish all

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bursary support for students from April next year. Not reduce it, not

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take it back a little bit, but abolish it completely. Abolish it

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for student nurses as well as for students in general. I'll take no

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lectures whatsoever when it comes to student support from the

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Conservative Party or from Ruth Davidson. Let me give Ruth Davidson,

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just as I did Kezia Dugdale a few facts which might get in the way of

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her rhetoric. The number of people from our most deprived communities

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achieving a university qualification has increased under this Government

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by 24%. The number of 18-year-olds from our most depride areas applying

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to universities is up by 50%. Young people from our most deprived air

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yeas are more likely now to participate in higher education by

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the age of 30 than they were in 2006. Though the UCAS figures have

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to be treated with cacks because they under estimate Scotland's

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performance, they show Scotland is reducing the attainment gap at

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university faster than any other part of the UK. Those are the facts.

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What will certainly not help us make any further progress is if we were

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to go down the road of Tories by taking away bursaries from all

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students. I asked for a number. It was a number that the First Minister

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didn't want to give. The thing is she didn't want to give the number

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five weeks ago either. After that session, we put in a freedom of

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information request who tell us bursary funding will be about ?40

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million in 2016 a drop of ?40 million under this Government. The

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SNP says their no tuition fee policy is helped to design -- designed to

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help poorer students get a university. Despite political

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rhetoric surrounding free education in Scotland the system's failed to

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produce more equal opportunities than the rest of the UK. The

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policies were reproducing existing social inequalities. So the SNP have

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slashed college places. They've cut bursaries and the policy that's

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supposed to counter all of this does not work. I know the First Minister

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will want to dismiss me like she's done before but these experts are

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telling her a contribution after graduation can be used to help

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poorer students into universities in the first place. Will she dismiss

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them too? I am not going to dismiss Ruth Davidson. But I am going to

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criticise as I believe people across the country will do so, her

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shame-faced hypocracy on this particular issue. The reality is

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this. Whatever the SNP Government is spending on student bursaries is

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going to be more than the zero the Conservatives will be spending on

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student bursaries when they scrap them for all students next year. We

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will continue to make sure that we give our students a decent funding

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package. Average support for students in Scotland is now the

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highest that it has ever been. ?5,610 per student. Up nearly 5%

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since the year before. We remain committed to bursaries for the

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poorest students unlike the Conservatives who are scrapping them

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from next year. Our minimum income gather teen for under graduate

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students from the poorest households living at home is the highest

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package of support anywhere in the UK. That's the reality, partly the

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reason we are starting to make the progress I cited in my earlier

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answer and decreasing our numbers from deprived communities going to

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university. We'll continue to do that work while also protecting a

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principal I hold dear which is free access to education based on your

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ability to learn not on your ability to pay. Led me end by quoting what

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the NUS had to say about the report Ruth Davidson cites. The idea that

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abolishing free education, a clear recognition of the public and social

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good provided by higher education would improve fair access would seem

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bizarre. It is. The NUS are right and the Tories, not for the first

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time, are downright wrong. The First Minister will be aware of

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structural safety checks on the Forth Road rage are causing major

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sections. Can I ask the First Minister what discussions she has

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held with transport Scotland to mitigate these disruptions?

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Officials are working with a roads operator to identify the problem and

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traffic management measures are now in place. The decision to close the

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southbound carriageway was not taken lightly because we understand the

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disruption to commuters that this will cause but it was taken for the

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right reasons, for safety reasons. Measures to reopen it partially will

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be taken as soon as it is safe to do so and I hope that the Shawlands is

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welcome in the chamber. And I would take the opportunity to thank the

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travelling public for the patients they are showing at the moment. Rob

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Gibson. What part Scotland can play in international mitigation of

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climate change? Scotland is supporting international efforts to

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secure an ambitious and legally binding climate treaty at the UN

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conference. Both I and the Environment Minister will be in

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Paris to promote the action that Scotland is taking, action which has

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been praised as, I quote, a shining example, by the head of the UN

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climate body. Scotland is three quarters of the way to achieving a

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world leading reductions target. We have delivered our target for

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community and locally ridley warbles five years early and we met our

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energy consumption targets seven years early. Also benefiting from

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45,000 low carbon jobs so I think Scotland is offer both a message and

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model for climate action that we will be proud to promote at these

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vital Paris talks. I thank the First Minister for that answer. This week

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the Herald described the record of the UK Government as particularly

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shameful with retrograde measures such as the ending of subsidies for

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onshore wind. Does the First Minister agree that climate justice

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must start at home and that climate justice must be a rallying point for

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all parties and all sections of the public to each act quickly to

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decrease our greenhouse gas emissions? But vitally, in terms of

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climate justice, to give onshore wind power development the top

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priority? I do agree with that. At home it is important that we take

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continued action if we are to achieve our emissions reductions.

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That is why we designated improving energy efficiency as a national

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infrastructure priority and Scotland has made significant process in

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renewable electricity with around half hour gross out of the

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conception now coming from renewables. We do share the

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renewables sector's and says that the damaging and premature concerns

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will hamper future progress. We talk about climate justice, it is

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important to concentrate on the contribution we can make to climate

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justice around the world and that is why I am proud that Scotland is

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showing the way by putting people and human rights at the heart of our

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action on climate change. We supported 11 projects through our

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climate Justice fund in Malawi, Tanzania and Zambia, which helps

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some of the world's poorest and most burnable people. Both at home and

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overseas, I think Scotland should be... -- most vulnerable people.

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What will the impact on Scotland B of the recent defence review?

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Scotland has been disproportionately hit by previous Strategic Defence

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Review is which resulted in the closure of bases and the creation of

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major capability gaps. I wrote to the Prime Minister this week seeking

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assurances for Scotland about the latest review. While we welcome

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plans to locate nine Kraft here, we understand that previous commitments

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have never materialised. The report creates more uncertainty for

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shipbuilders on the Clyde. Overall, the review does little to reverse

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the disproportionate decline in Scotland's defence footprint over

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more than a decade and most indefensibly it proposes wasting an

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estimated ?167 billion on Trident at a time when people are being so hard

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hit by the Treasury's damaging austerity cuts. I gather from that

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response is the First Minister already she is my concerns about the

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balance of what the UK Government is up to. Does the First Minister feel

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there is any prospect at all that the UK Government might rebalance to

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conventional forces which might protect this rather than preserving

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a sacred cow called Trident? In this train the -- chamber, Trident is

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only supported by the Conservatives and Jackie Baillie, an unholy

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alliance if ever we saw one. I do share the concerns that... Order! I

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think it is important that we see a balanced defence. The National

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Security strategy which accompanied the defence review's range of

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threats, all of which we should take very seriously, but not one of these

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threats is Trident a sensible answer. Instead of investing in

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Trident, we should be in Courage under UK Government to make show we

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have the right conventional forces in place. I am glad, Presiding

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Officer, the First Minister acknowledges the loss of the base as

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a consequence and given her opening remarks this morning, does she also

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welcome that the review underlines the UK Government's commitment to

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spending to % of the UK's GDP on meeting our commitments and on

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making sure our forces remain some of the best in the world? We have

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seen disproportionate cuts to our conventional defences in Scotland

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and while I welcome anything that secures the future of Lossiemouth,

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it is important to point out that the only reason there has been any

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threat is due to decisions taken or proposed by the UK Government. We do

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face, and this day is a very timely reminder of this, we face a range of

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threats, Presiding Officer, which is why I think it is right that we

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continue to argue for conventional defence forces with the right

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capabilities and to oppose spending so much money on nuclear weapons

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that do not provide a defence to any of the threats we face as a country.

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To ask the First Minister about the Scottish Government, whether it has

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requested an extension of the 45 day course alteration period for Tata

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Steel plans? We have discussed the length of the consultation period

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with both the company and workforce representatives. The minimum

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statutory period is due to end tomorrow but consultation is still

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ongoing and that is primarily a matter for the company and the

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unions. The focus of our activity remains very firmly on securing an

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alternative commercial operator for DL and flybridge and he will know

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that Tata Steel has confirmed that there are serious parties

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potentially interested in the plants. This is encouraging and we

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continue to do everything we can to assist that process. I'm sure

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everybody across the chamber will recognise there are no quick fixes

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here. There are certainly no easy fixes. But with the workforce, the

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unions and others, we are working tirelessly in however it is to keep

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these plants open. Clearly, workers are very stressed and worried about

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their future. Does the First Minister agree that we have the

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potential to create a centre of excellence for steelwork in

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Scotland? And can she reassure me that in the quest to a cheap that,

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leaving no stone unturned, that the Scottish Government is prepared to

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provide support for any transitional period, leading to a buyer taking

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over or public ownership that may be necessary to see the deal -- jobs,

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which I trust the Scottish Government values? I think the

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member knows how highly from we value the jobs and the continuation

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of the steel industry in Scotland. I very much agreed that there is a

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real opportunity to create a centre of excellence in the steel industry

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in Scotland. When I say we will leave no stone unturned, I mean

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exactly that. If there is any viable option that will secure the future

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of these, the Government will explore taking that forward. The

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Government has been, suggestions made at the task was about support

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that could be provided in a transitional period and the Scottish

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Government is exploring all of these options, but I would like to repeat

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what I said in my initial answer, we do have serious parties that are

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expressing potential interest in the plants. I think it is therefore

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appropriate and right that we concentrate on doing everything we

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can to see one of those expressions of interest turned into something

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real and viable and that, at the moment, is where the Scottish

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Government will continue to expand our energy. Is the First Minister

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able to give an update on the work being done to reduce fuel costs at

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the Tata plans? We have been working very intensively to create the best

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business environment for any new operator that might be prepared to

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take on the site. As a result of work that was commissioned by the

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Business Minister, we know now that energy costs at the site could be

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cut significantly and there is potential for renewable energy

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generation from the plants and we also continue to maintain pressure

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on the European Commission to exaggerate state aid clearance for

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the energy intensive package and to do that before Christmas. On

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business rates, we agreed that the assessor will take on the steel

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industry for the next re-evaluation where we are open to options of

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reducing the options as long as they comply with state aid rules. As well

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as doing everything we can to secure commercial operator for these

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plants, we will continue to do everything we can to reduce the

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running costs, which make these plans even more attractive to any

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commercial operator. Question six. To ask the First Minister what the

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Scottish Government is doing to reduce health care... We have a

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range of public health policies on tobacco, alcohol, diet, for

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example, to improve health and close the quality gap. One of the ways the

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Scottish Government is tackling health inequalities is by informing

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the GPs contract to give them more time and particularly in areas where

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patients face the greatest inequalities and health issues.

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Further changes will be made to the 20 something contract, including

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reviewing the allocation formula, and this will ensure GPs surgeries

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in the areas of most need will receive funding. I thank the First

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Minister for her response. She mentioned GB funding, earlier this

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week a report by Professor Graham Watt highlighted that GPs are the

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most the cries -- deprived areas in the countries receive less than

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those in well off areas. Scotland has the worst wealth inequalities in

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Western Europe and this is one of the reasons behind it. What can the

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Scottish Government do more than it is currently doing to combat these

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inequalities? Firstly, I welcome Professor Watt's findings and we

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will take them fully into account in delivering a new GP contract for

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2017 and a company in revised allocation formula. Professor Watt

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examine data from 2011-12. I have looked at the recent data for GP

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payments for 2014-15 and what they show is that the most deprived

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practices received on average 79 65 more per patient than practices in

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the most affluent areas in 2014-15, so I hope that is a sign of some

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progress in the direction he wants is to go in. The allegations former

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has been in place since 2004. It has undergone some revisions and changes

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since then but the new GP contract, which will take effect in 2017,

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gives us a good opportunity to revise that allegations former to

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make sure it is reflecting the various need of GPs practices in

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different local communities and I look forward to having the support

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of the chamber as we seek to do that. Does the First Minister agree

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that over and above fundamental action is necessary to support

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targeted action with the most vulnerable individuals and the most

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disadvantaged communities initiative such as the Royal College of Nursing

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innovative nursing at the edge initiative which will actually be

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featured in a cross-party group on mental health in five minutes' time.

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I better make take too long and swing that I will make you late for

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the meeting but I do agree with that and send my best wishes to the

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meeting and support the work he has referred to. But I do agree with

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that and I would also refer him to the support that we showed to the

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defender GP practices which are very much about recognising the

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particular needs in our most deprived communities and we have got

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to make sure that as well as raising the health outcomes of our country,

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generally, we are taking the action that will close the gap as well.

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Thank you. That ends First Minister's Questions.

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Democratic exchanges on health, on industry, on climate change.

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Democracy operating in the context of conflict, to which there was a

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reference at the very beginning. I will hand you over to the daily

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politics. and one of the chance was, what do

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we want? Peace. When do we want it?

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