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Hello. Welcome to the Scottish parliament in Hollyrood where this

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report is causing a bit of a stir. The lavender Institute are

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suggesting that depending on the various scenarios for leaving the

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European Union it could cost Scotland between 30000 and 80,000

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jobs. Yes, Brexit again. Supporters say they could be opportunities for

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the economy as well. I'm not sure if that will come up in questions to

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the First Minister but the way to go to relax go across. Nicola Sturgeon

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has said that the Tory leader should be ashamed of herself are to the

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Conservatives conference. I assume that even the First

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Minister would acknowledge that I made my position perfectly clear.

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Presiding officer, today's report felt out plainly the challenges that

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Scotland, along with the rest of the UK will face over coming years as we

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leave the UUP and unions. Like most members of this chamber I didn't

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vote to leave the EU, but the question now is how we maximise the

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opportunities ahead and mitigate risks. The report says that the

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focus must be on areas like food and drink and manufacturing. Can I ask

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what the Scottish Government is doing to ensure that these two

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sectors get protection from risks and take advantage of opportunities?

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Well, it is a bit rich to be asked what this government is doing to

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protect Scotland from the risks when these risks have been created by the

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Conservative Party that was Davidson is a member of and leader of here in

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Scotland. But as I have said repeatedly in this chamber, and

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outside this chamber, this government will do everything in its

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power to protect Scotland's interests and mitigate the risk that

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Scotland now faces, risks that are set out clearly in the Fraser report

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today. We are working intensively with all sectors across our economy,

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that work is being led by an economy secretary and Mike Russell who I

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have appointed to deal specifically with the Brexit negotiations. It's

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not just manufacturing, food and drink. Earlier this week I sat down

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with the financial services sector to discuss real concerns that they

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have. Not just about Brexit, but about the

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growing indications that what we are heading for under the Conservatives

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is the hardest of hard Brexit. And like Ruth Davidson, my position has

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not changed. I think that breakfast is a bad idea and I continue to

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think it's my responsibility to do everything I can to protect Scotland

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from edge. -- Brexit is a bad idea. Let's be more specific. We are

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expecting a judgment on classification. Let me quote a

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member of the First Minister's Rose commission. He says subject to the

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regulatory lining we have there are major advantages to being the first

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movers in this technology in becoming a world leader. I know the

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First Minister is restricted on what she can say, but her own adviser

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thinks we could use this technology to boost thousands of jobs and add

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billions to the Scottish economy. Does she agree? I'm sure Ruth

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Davidson is a way that the UK Government is also looking carefully

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at the issues around UCG. I'm sure she is perhaps more aware than I am

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of the direction of travel they might be going in as well. I think

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Ruth Davidson, she did last week, seems to suggest that we should ride

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roughshod over evidence and over the reports that we, ourselves, have

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commissioned. Paul Wheelhouse will make a statement this afternoon, he

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will report on the work we have asked Professor Campbell Gammell to

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undertake on our behalf, all members of this chamber, indeed, everybody

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across the country will be able to look in detail at that work. I think

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that is the responsible way to proceed. It's putting the concerns

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that people have and the interest of our environment and economy at front

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and centre. Reaching balanced judgments as a result of that work.

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That's the way we will continue to proceed.

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In the same way that people can still, by going on the website, look

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at the last report you commissioned an fracking, was advice you didn't

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take. But let's move onto another sector, that sector is food and

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drink. Whiskey producers tell us that Latin America, a market of 600

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million people has the potential for massive growth in the coming year.

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And yet, south of Texas, Scottish development International has only

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one tiny office. So, like me be First Minister the Scotch whisky

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Association didn't want is to leave the EU, but they now want us to

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focus on developing opportunities. Can I ask what action is the first

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was taking to expand our trade footprint on the world?

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Right, well let's just walk ourselves step-by-step through that

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question. Firstly, those who know what they are talking about will

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know that was Davidson managed to switch between different

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technologies there. I don't know if she did that in full knowledge, or

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if she needs to do a bit more homework. What we are talking about

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today is and ground: classification, that is very different to fracking.

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Before she comes to ask questions about bad I thought she might know

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and understand that. Secondly, an whisky I have spoken with the Scotch

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whisky Association last week and the week before and the issues they want

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to raise were firstly the success of the Scottish whisky was, but also

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the impact of Brexit on them. In terms of international presence, and

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sure that if anybody here was going to do a quick Google search they

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would find plenty of examples of the Scottish Conservatives criticising

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the international presence of the Scottish Government. Saying things

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like it's nothing to do with us, we should leave these matters to the UK

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Government. Thankfully, we don't listen. So as well as the excellent

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work that STI are doing, we are considering carefully how we make

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sure that S D I is properly equipped in the climate we put another result

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of the recklessness of the Tory government. We have announced

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recently the opening of new investment clubs in London and

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Dublin as well as Brussels to make sure that we are not reliant on the

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likes of Boris Johnson to represent us overseas. We have the ability to

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do so ourselves. Ruth Davidson. The First Minister seems more interested

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in discussing my position than her government's. I don't believe I've

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ever hidden it. My position is to say that people from the EU and

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elsewhere are welcome here. This is their home. And my position is to

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retain the close possible trading relationship with value being

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friends and neighbours expanding trade abroad. But my position is

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also to face up to the realities ahead of us. To mitigate risks and

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take advantage of opportunities. This parliament is now faces a

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choice about whether to put the lions share of its efforts into

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examining practical solutions or simply complaining about the

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results. Which is to be, First Minister?

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I think was Davidson is perhaps protesting a bit too much! She says

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I'm more interested in herb is a shame, I have to say, if anybody can

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work out what Ruth Davidson position is then they are doing better than

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me. She has flipped and flopped over and over again since the referendum

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result. She says, and I commend you for it, she said that what I stood

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up and said the morning after the referendum, that people who chose to

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make their homes here are welcome. They make a contribution and we want

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them to stay. Unfortunately, the difference between Ruth Davidson and

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I is this, she wants control over immigration to stay in the hands of

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the xenophobes. I wanted in the hands of this parliament so that can

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put these sentiments into practice. And lastly, presiding officer,

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Scotland finds itself in a situation we didn't ask to be in. We are in

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this situation, facing all the risks we face because of the recklessness

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of the Conservative government at Westminster. My job, and the job of

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this government, is to protect Scotland's interest and bad is

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exactly what we will continue to do. -- that is exactly. To ask the first

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midair when she will next meet HIV Scotland.

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First Minister. It is an organisation almost fully funded by

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the Scottish Government, officials have regular contact with the HIV

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Scotland. The Minister for Public health and sport met with the

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executives on the 23rd of August. Kezia Dugdale. Presiding Officer,

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across Scotland this morning tens of thousands of people stood Station

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Platinum starting their commute. As Minister for transport in 2014 Keith

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Brown said the new franchise agreement was a world leading

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contract to deliver for rail staff and passengers. Not only that, but

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it was a contract that will benefit the whole of Scotland. Does the

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first Mr believe that those promises have been kept?

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The contract was awarded because it was considered that it was the

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contract in the best interests of passengers across Scotland. It is

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absolutely incumbent on a burial, as the holder of that conjure to

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continue to make sure that they deliver services that meet the

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expectations of the travelling public. The Scottish Government will

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continue to liaise on an ongoing basis with ScotRail to make sure

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that is the case. Indeed, I'm delighted that the recent dispute

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around driver operated doors has been settled and the public don't

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have the expectation of as a result of that. Presiding

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officer, I doubt commuters on the train from Dundee to Edinburgh or

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North Berwick to Edinburgh would agree that Scotland has a world

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leading contract or indeed that the expectations of the public are being

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met. In the past few months Scotland's rail passengers have

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faced cancellations, delays and overcrowding.

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New figures this week show that a third of all roots in Scotland have

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services that are late more often than they are on time. At the same

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time, Abelio are raking it in, ?1 million a month at from that

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franchise. Does the First Minister agree that while Scotland's rail

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network might be working for transport bosses it is not working

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for commuters? Kezia Dugdale is right to raise

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concerns from the travelling public. They have a right to services that

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run on time and they can rely on. It is because the Scottish Government

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is so firm and a commitment that Kezia Dugdale, I assume, is aware

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that under the contract terms the Scottish Government requested from

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ScotRail on the 26th of August, an improvement plan which was received

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on the 16th of September we are committed to working with ScotRail

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to deliver a quality service to passengers. That is our

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responsibility, and we are seriously making sure that we discharge that

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responsibility. Kezia Dugdale. That is interesting.

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I have the improvement plan in front of me. In fact it is a press release

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this week. ?300 with extra investment to improve comfort and

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accessibility on our railways. It says you are going to spend money on

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equipment so you conceal how overcrowded trains. Can I suggest

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she just get on to appreciate how overcrowded trains are? She needs to

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be honest about the experience based by passengers. Here's the thing,

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since 2011 the average weekly earnings of commuters rose by only

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6%. But the Scottish Government cap on rush-hour rail fares increased by

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over 23%. So let me make that absolutely clear. That's a rise four

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times faster than earnings. Those who travel to work by train pay more

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for a shocking service. And Scottish commuters are fed up of the First

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Minister's excuses. This is her responsibility. What is she going to

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do to get things back on track? APPLAUSE. I don't think anybody

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listening to this exchange has hit me make any excuses. It is our

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responsibility to work with ScotRail to make sure equality services

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delivered. That is widely transport Mr has been

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taking the action he has been taking and why continue to invest

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significant sums in the real Madrid to ensure that responsibility is

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discharged. I do not quibble at all about Kezia

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Dugdale's right to come to this chamber and reads those concerned. I

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understand the concerns of the travelling public but my job is to

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get on with fixing the problem not just to carp from the sidelines.

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The first supplementary from Bruce Crawford.

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Would be First Minister confirm that she is aware that HSBC are intent on

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relocating around 200 high-quality jobs... If you would just listen to

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what I'm saying. From Stirling and this would have an obvious impact on

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individuals and the economy. Given this news does the first Mr also

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agree with me that this strengthens the case was turning to secure a

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deal based on their excellent business case?

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Of course I'm aware of the situation. I fully appreciate how

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anxious a time this is for the company's employees and their

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families. The Scottish and will do all it can to support those

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affected. Scottish enterprise is already engaging with HSBC to

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explore all possible avenues of supporting the business and its

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workforce. In the unfortunate event that redundancies to proceed al

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organisation will be fully engaged. In terms of the city deal, I had a

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brief conversation at another event with leaders in the Council about

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this yesterday and they understand these discussions are progressing

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well. While no conclusions have been reached, I hope that Mr Crawford

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will see from the experience of other cities, Glasgow, Inverness,

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Aberdeen, the Government is committed to taking for city deals

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where we can. The pro version will be aware of the

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changes coming to Glasgow on bus routes. This will affect passengers

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in my constituency and also hers. The number of bus journeys is down

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to 2007 and Brits have been cut back by 66 million kilometres over the

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same period. Can I as the First Minister how many more bus services

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have two be withdrawn before this Government backs any kind of

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regulation and at very least, does the First Minister not think it

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should not be so easy for bus companies to walk away at short

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notice without any consultation from the communities represent? No, I

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think first Glasgow and indeed all other bus companies should consult

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very closely with local communities before making any changes to local

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services. That is what I would expect. As a local representative, I

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regularly have discussions with First Glasgow about services that

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run through and in my constituency and I know other MSP 's will do

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likewise. These are important issues. People in our constituencies

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depend on them and I would expect bus services to take their views

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into account when reaching decisions. David Stewart. Will be

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First Minister join with me in welcoming to the gallery today a

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delegation of campaigners from the Dunoon to clinic there are very

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good. Is it not the responsibility of the Government to provide ferry

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services from Gurock? Well, firstly I would welcome the campaigners for

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the Dunoon to Gurock Seri service to the chamber. I know many of them

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well as in one of my previous Government jobs I had the

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responsibility for taking forward this work. I absolutely appreciate

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the strength of feeling around the town centre vehicle service issue. I

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know the member will appreciate that now we are in a live procurement

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exercise there are strict limitations on ministerial

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involvement in that tendering exercise and what I'm able to say at

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this stage. But I hope he will appreciate and indeed the

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campaigners will appreciate from my previous involvement has serious we

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are in seeking that there is a service running on that route that

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meets the expectations of those who rely on it. Willie Rennie. To as the

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First Minister what will be discussed at the next meeting of the

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Cabinet. Matters of importance to the people of Scotland. We have

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heard the trade Secretary branding European citizens working here as

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Caldas in an EU negotiation. We have heard the Conservative Home

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Secretary advocating listing foreign workers. These are our neighbours

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and our friends. They are our family. People who voted for Brexit

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across the UK did not vote to send their friends home. So what can she

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do to ensure that EU citizens are treated with respect and dignity in

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these negotiations? The first thing I can do, which is what I did do on

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the morning after the EU referendum, is a unequivocally that people who

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have come from other European countries or indeed from any country

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and chosen to make Scotland their home and make a contribution here

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are welcome here. This is their home, this is where they belong and

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it is where we want them to stay and all of us have a responsibility to

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say that as often as we possibly can. We have also since the EU

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referendum taken steps to liaise with the community of EU nationals

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living in Scotland. The Cabinet held a question and answer session a

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number of weeks ago in order to hear directly their concerns. We have

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taken some practical steps, for example around tuition fees for

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universities to give some assurances to EU nationals where we can and we

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will continue to look for other areas in which we can do that.

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Unfortunately, and it is as matter of real regret to me, I do not have

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the power to guarantee the right to EU nationals to stay here in

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Scotland so what I will also continue to do and I hope I will

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have the backing of everything a person in this chamber when I say

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this, is to call in the UK Government to stop using human

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beings as bargaining chips and give them the guaranteed right to stay

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where they belong, here in Scotland. Now, many of these European citizens

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work in places like Amazon. They deserve decent treatment too. This

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week, Amazon celebrated recruiting more people below the proper living

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wage. It was described as a bonanza. I have raised this issue before and

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action was promised by the First Minister, but nothing has changed.

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This week, the Scottish Government didn't utter a peep. Not one word of

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criticism. This is Amazon that has had millions of pounds of Scottish

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Government grants paying poverty wages. Does she still intend to do

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anything or has she lost interest? I think that is a really unfair

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criticism form Willie Rennie because he knows, and I know he agrees with

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this, how seriously we treat the issue of the living wage and we

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encourage and I would go further than that and say we expect all

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companies where they can to pay the living wage and we have taken a real

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beating this. I wish I had the powers in Scotland not just to

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guarantee the right of EU nationals to state but actually to legislate

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on minimum wage level so that we could reach the statutory minimum

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wage to the level of the living wage. Let's argue not just for

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companies to do the right thing, let's argue for having these powers

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in the hands of this Parliament so we don't just have to call on the UK

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Government to do the right thing for us. A number of supplementary 's.

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The First Minister will reflect my concern is that the Fraser of

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Allander Institute has provided a report that says the number of jobs

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he she not think it is either the

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Tories to reveal a plan? The Tories should have had a plan to deal with

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this before the referendum. It is absolutely shocking that they did

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not have that. It is equally shocking that three months on we

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still have only the sketchiest of details about what happens now.

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Unfortunately, the details we do have suggest we are heading down the

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road of a hard Brexit which is the Fraser of Allander report says will

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cost people in Scotland in terms of lost wages and lost jobs. That is

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completely and utterly unacceptable. What I think has been really clear

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from the Conservative conference this week is that decisions by the

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Prime Minister are being driven more by her desire to appease the Tory

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Right then they are by the genuine interests of the country. I think

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that is wrong. I think it is regrettable and I think it is deeply

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irresponsible. Douglas Ross. When Andrew Flanagan, chair of the

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Scottish police authority was asked yesterday about public concern over

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sex offenders and violent criminals being tagged, he said, and I quote,

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I think that worry would be understandable. Ganley First

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Minister assure the public that her Government will not use the

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extension of electronic monitoring for these criminals given the very

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real concerns that have been voiced by the public and victims of crime?

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Public safety is at the heart of all of these decisions. As I have said

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previously in an exchange as a couple of weeks ago, it is not for

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politicians to decide sentences. It is for courts to decide appropriate

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sentences but when a court is deciding the appropriate sentence in

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any case whether that is prison or an alternative to prison and

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including the use of electronic monitoring, then risk assessment and

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issue of public safety will be absolutely integral to that

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decision. That is right and proper and the public would expect no less.

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Daniel Johnson. As the First Minister hat is no doubt aware, two

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weeks ago today there was a very major rupture on the water main

:23:45.:23:50.

supplying Edinburgh that occurred in Liberton, in my constituency. The

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destruction that was cost was very substantial. Many families have had

:23:55.:23:57.

to vacate their homes and friendly the only reason there was not a loss

:23:58.:24:00.

of life is because an elderly couple are currently in a care home where

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the greatest destruction took place. I had a very constructive meeting

:24:06.:24:09.

with Scottish water this week, but it was revealed that the main

:24:10.:24:13.

regulating valves for the supply of water to Edinburgh are causing

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serious issues for Scottish Water, to the point where they are

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supplying 24 hour supervision. The same valves are also used to

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regulate the supply of water into Glasgow and no guy. We'll the First

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Minister assure me that she and her ministers are looking into this

:24:31.:24:34.

matter and detail to this and Parliament what they are doing to

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make sure this is remedy. Firstly, I of course am aware of the

:24:40.:24:43.

destruction and the concern that was caused by the members of his

:24:44.:24:46.

constituency as the result of the incident he talked about I know

:24:47.:24:50.

Scottish Water will deeply regret that inconvenience. I am more than

:24:51.:24:55.

happy to ask the Minister with responsibility to raise the

:24:56.:24:58.

particular issue that the member has brought to the chamber today with

:24:59.:25:01.

Scottish Water and ask them to correspond with the member when he

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has Scottish Water's input on that. Is First Minister aware of the

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problems with the crofter's commission cost by the behaviour of

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the current convener. Other commissioners have asked for his

:25:17.:25:18.

resignation and the previous chief executive, Katrina Maclean, left

:25:19.:25:22.

because of the convenor's behaviour and the pressure that has been

:25:23.:25:26.

placed on commission staff. Will she and her rural secretary now take

:25:27.:25:29.

action to make the commission work for crofters across the crofting

:25:30.:25:32.

counties without the disruptive presence of the convener? Tavish

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Scott raises a very important issue. The Cabinet Secretary for the real

:25:39.:25:41.

economy has already welcomed the apology from the board of the

:25:42.:25:44.

crofting commission but it is disappointing that the convener was

:25:45.:25:48.

not a party to that apology. It is important that we get to the stage

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of being able to draw a line under recent events. The resources spent

:25:52.:25:55.

on dealing with these issues by the commission would, in my view, be

:25:56.:25:59.

better used in being an effective regulator and contributing to a

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sustainable future for crofting. I note that crofting commissioners

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have called on the convener to resign unanimously. We have

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requested further information in relation to last week's events.

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While the Government would not usually intervene in the internal

:26:15.:26:17.

operations of an independent statutory body, the legislation does

:26:18.:26:21.

give Scottish ministers power to act if required and I can assure Tavish

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Scott that the Cabinet Secretary continues to monitor the situation

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very closely and we would be happy to discuss it further with him.

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Christina McKelvie. To ask the First Minister what the Scottish

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Government's response is to the recent Scottish Social Attitudes

:26:40.:26:41.

survey which shows that prejudice levels in Scotland are following. I

:26:42.:26:46.

welcome the findings from this survey. It is encouraging to see

:26:47.:26:49.

that Scotland is becoming a more inclusive society with more people

:26:50.:26:53.

in racing and valuing diversity. However, we should not be

:26:54.:26:57.

complacent. It is unacceptable that some groups do still face prejudice

:26:58.:27:01.

so we must continue to work together to eradicate discriminatory act

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stewed in Scotland and I can ensure the member that we are committed to

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doing so. I thank the First Minister for that answer and that commitment.

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This week, the Tory party conference of the most disgraceful display of

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reactionary right wing politics in living memory with the Tories

:27:19.:27:21.

hinting that they will target foreign workers and name and shame

:27:22.:27:24.

businesses for not hiring British employees. Perhaps we saw an early

:27:25.:27:28.

plans of that from the Scottish Tories in recent weeks when they

:27:29.:27:35.

questioned the right to take part in current life. How will the First

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Minister help to ensure we create an inclusive Scotland where people are

:27:43.:27:44.

judged on the contribution they make to our society are not in a place

:27:45.:27:52.

they were born? We did that... We do that by standing strong and I hope

:27:53.:27:58.

United in defence of that inclusive tolerant society. We should value

:27:59.:28:01.

people by the contribution they make here, not by where they were born or

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indeed the colour of their passport. I think that work is undermined by

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some of the rhetoric we have heard from the Tory conference this week.

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Theresa May's speech yesterday was endorsed by Marine Le Pen, the

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leader of the French far right. Nigel Farris said yesterday that

:28:22.:28:24.

virtually everything that Theresa May said in her speech were things

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that he had said over the last few years. I do think all of us have an

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obligation to stand up against intolerance, against prejudice,

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against discrimination and against xenophobia in all of its forms and I

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hope everybody in this parliament will do so. Ross career. Thank you,

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presiding officer. The First Minister has already called at the

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hateful disgusting rhetoric that came out of the Tory party

:28:54.:28:55.

conference this week. Perhaps the most sinister of their proposals was

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that from Amber Rudd, the Home Secretary, that countries will be

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forced to disclose the proportion of their workers who were born outside

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of the United Kingdom. Woolley First Minister and the Scottish Government

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support businesses in Scotland who refuse to comply with this

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disgusting proposal? I would absolutely stands full square beside

:29:15.:29:20.

any company that refused to comply with any request to publish details

:29:21.:29:24.

of foreign workers. What I found particularly offensive was the idea

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that companies would be named and shamed for the foreign workers they

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employed as if there was something shameful about employing workers

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from other countries. It is absolutely disgraceful stop I Amber

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Rudd went on the radio yesterday morning and tried to roll back this

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proposal by saying that it was not something the Tories were definitely

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going to do. Well, I think it's about time the Tories stood up and

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said that it's definitely something they will not ever do because it

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would be downright disgraceful and disgusting and this Government would

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have absolutely nothing to do with it.

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Thank you, presiding officer. Can I associate myself with the comments

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the First Minister has made about the Tory party conference. I think

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we are on full agreement on that point. If you look at the broad

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findings from the Scottish Social Attitudes survey as well as figures

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last week which show that hate crimes in Scotland have fallen over

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the last year, but we can't be complacent, First Minister. Bad

:30:28.:30:30.

things are still happening in Scotland too often. For example

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Islamophobic hate crimes have increased by 89%. Prejudiced and

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hatred has no place in any of our communities, and certainly not in

:30:42.:30:45.

our society. So what specific action will we take to highlight the issue

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of Islamophobia and reduce hate crimes such as this?

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Firstly, I agree absolutely with the comments. Indeed, I did say in my

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first answer that we should not and must not be complacent. There is no

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disagreement whatsoever from me on that. We see a rise in Islamophobia

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and the Government continues to work with faith communities to all our

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quality work to combat discrimination, in particularly to

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combat the rising trend of Islamophobia. I was speaking at an

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event at the end of last week organised, an interfaith event,

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organised by the Alan Bates society where I made mention of the need to

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make sure that we continue to welcome the fact that hate crimes

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are falling but not be complacent about that. I know the member is

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very familiar with the range of what we do. We are seeking to work with

:31:39.:31:42.

communities to bring people together and make diversity something we

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celebrate as a key strength of our country, not something we fear and

:31:47.:31:49.

exploit. That'll be the way this government behaves. I hope in doing

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so we continue to have the unanimous support of everybody in this

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chamber. I beg your pardon. Question number

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five, Donald Cameron. To ask the first Mr what steps the

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Scottish and is taking to tackle the rising number of drug-related Acute

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Hospital stays. While drug-taking amongst the

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general population is falling, the number of young people taking drugs

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is at the lowest level in a decade we are determined to tackle problem

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drug use. Will our partners and supported by an investment of over

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?600 million we are waking to the working to reduce the harm caused by

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drug and alcohol use. The result of hospitals is because of a rise chord

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of older drug users who become more vulnerable and have a greater need

:32:39.:32:43.

for the support and care of our NHS. We continue to work with subsector

:32:44.:32:46.

groups to identify and understand the needs of these individuals.

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Donald Campbell. The First Minister will be away from the recently

:32:52.:32:56.

published districts reported that general acute admissions increased

:32:57.:33:00.

by almost 500 in the last financial year. The same report showed that

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around half of those patients lived in the 20% most deprived areas of

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Scotland. Would be First Minister accept that the Scottish Government

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needs to do much more to reduce serious drug misusing our most

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deprived areas? Of course I will. Where we still

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have a problem of drug use they will also be more that the Government

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needs to do. But I would genuinely point the member to some of the

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trends that I highlighted in my opening answer. We are now seeing

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the number of young people taking drugs at the lowest level in a

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decade. That suggests that the initiatives we are taking are having

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some success. Coupled with that it is right to say that we are seeing

:33:41.:33:44.

an increasing trend of hospital admissions but that is related to

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the ageing cohort of drug users. As people become older having had a

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lifetime or substantial parts of their lifetime taking drugs, they do

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more and more need hospital treatment. That's the explanation

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behind that trend. Drug use in any community, particularly in our most

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deprived communities, is something we shouldn't and can't be complacent

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about. We must revelling possible to combat it.

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Thank you, presiding officer. That is the first winners agree that

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drug-related acute heart disease are often related to illegal drug use.

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Can she confirmed drug-related crime has fallen dramatically since the

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SNP came to office with a fall of 45.7% in North Asia alone? -- North

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a share. I certainly welcome the point to the

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recently published crime figures which highlight the reduction in

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drug offences and reflect positive trends in that area. North Ayrshire

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Rick wrote: the bucks trends. We know there was no room for

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complacency. We know about the vulnerability of an ageing cohort of

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people who are using drugs for many years. We must deal with that. But

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Kenny Gibson is right to point out that there is cause for optimism.

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Nationally drug-taking among the general population is falling, and

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as I've already said today, for young people it is now at the low

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was level it's been a decade. There is cause for optimism at but we must

:35:24.:35:29.

tackle this problem because it affects too many lives and can

:35:30.:35:36.

affect lives in a very dramatic way. To ask the first Mr what impact the

:35:37.:35:40.

breaching of EU spending rules has had on the funding of infrastructure

:35:41.:35:47.

projects. The European Commission suspended

:35:48.:35:49.

three-year programmes, these managers prevented the Scots

:35:50.:35:52.

government from being reimbursed for money it had already spent for the

:35:53.:35:57.

duration of the suspensions. But there was no impact on projects

:35:58.:36:01.

themselves. All suspensions have now been lifted with the final one being

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lifted in September this year. I think the first Mr is being badly

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advised in her response. I'm talking about European statistics authority

:36:12.:36:17.

regulations in relation to infrastructure projects. She has

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answered, perhaps, a different question. The First Minister will

:36:21.:36:24.

hopefully now be aware that there are at least four major capital

:36:25.:36:28.

project that breach EU rules on funding. In Aberdeen, Edinburgh,

:36:29.:36:33.

dumplings and Galloway Royal Infirmary at the national blood

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Centre. The total capital required for all four project will be pleased

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?900 million. According to audit Scotland capital was transferred

:36:43.:36:48.

from housing and from Scottish water and ?300 million was borrowed last

:36:49.:36:53.

year to fill part of the gap. Can I ask the First Minister what further

:36:54.:36:57.

borrowing will be necessary to finance these, and other planned

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projects? What is the opportunity cost if we still have to find the

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balance of the 900 million? And what projects will be delayed?

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Well, I now understand that Jackie Baillie was talking about the

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reclassification, I'm not sure how anyone could have taken from the

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wording of her question but I'm glad we now have a meeting of minds the

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question we are answering. As Jackie Baillie knows the ONS

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reclassification, and there are a number of issues, we've seen one

:37:28.:37:31.

about housing associations with the awareness reclassified from private

:37:32.:37:36.

to public, the UK Government also has similar issues to contender in

:37:37.:37:40.

terms of the capital projects. The Scottish Government has made a bold

:37:41.:37:43.

provision for these. They will be no interruption in terms of his capital

:37:44.:37:48.

projects. We make sure that our capital programme is taken forward

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is to deliver the production the country needs and deserves.

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Thank you, presiding officer. The general's report last week till says

:37:59.:38:04.

that a sum of ?40 million has been lost from Liz got an's account due

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to financial incompetence and an ability to apply EU accounting

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rules. Which projects have been kept or delayed because of this

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incompetence? I Middle Fraser made the same

:38:18.:38:20.

interpretation of Jackie Baillie's question as I did. My previous

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answer stands in reflect of this. In terms of the suspensions, the effect

:38:27.:38:30.

of suspensions which have all been lifted is to temporarily prevent the

:38:31.:38:33.

Scottish Government being reimbursed for money we have already paid out

:38:34.:38:38.

in projects. There is no impact whatsoever on the product concerned.

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We learnt lessons as other governments do, we regularly audit

:38:44.:38:49.

projects under these funds. We learn lessons and have applied those

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lessons in terms of the current round of structural funding.

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I would say that it is the actions of Murdo Fraser's party that putting

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future funding under threat. Question number seven, Emma Harbour.

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To ask the first Mr what the Scottish Government's responses to

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the polls deadline of March 20 17th for the triggering of Article 50? It

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does seem clear that the decision on the timing of article 50 is being

:39:21.:39:25.

driven more by the Prime Minister's desire to appease the Tory you are

:39:26.:39:28.

sceptics vanities by any rational consideration of what is in the best

:39:29.:39:34.

interests of the country. -- Tory you are sceptics banned by. As we

:39:35.:39:41.

have heard already and can see from the report this morning the damage

:39:42.:39:45.

that Brexit, especially the hard Brexit the Prime Minister now

:39:46.:39:49.

favours would still drown economy. That is why the Scottish Government

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will do absolutely everything in our power to protect Scotland's

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interests. Write frankly First Minister for that answer. Give any

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timescale it's taken to set a timescale what is the best bet on

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how long it will take the UK Government to curb with a plan, or

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any substantial notion of Brexit means?

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Well, I have no idea! They should have had a plan by now. What I'm

:40:21.:40:26.

more concerned about, with every day that passes, is the direction that

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the UK Government does seem to be going down, not just exit from the

:40:32.:40:36.

EU, but exit from the single market. Let's be quite clear about what that

:40:37.:40:41.

would mean. It will mean tariffs, nontariff trade barriers to

:40:42.:40:44.

companies that exports to the European Union. It could mean

:40:45.:40:48.

financial services companies losing past sporting rights, it could mean

:40:49.:40:52.

all of us having to pay for the privilege of travelling across

:40:53.:40:54.

Europe. These are real indications for every

:40:55.:40:58.

single one of us. That would be bad enough. But it's even worse because

:40:59.:41:02.

Scotland didn't want to be in this position. I hope everybody in this

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chamber will unite behind a call from the Scottish Government to stay

:41:08.:41:11.

in the single market. I don't believe, notwithstanding the result

:41:12.:41:14.

of the referendum, I don't believe Theresa May has any mandate to take

:41:15.:41:20.

the UK out of the single market. How many times did believe campaign say

:41:21.:41:24.

that leaving the EU did not mean leaving the single market. I hope

:41:25.:41:31.

liberals Davidson will get behind the Government when it says to

:41:32.:41:37.

Theresa May keep the European UK and EU and stop putting the interests of

:41:38.:41:44.

the Tory Eurosceptics and Ukip ahead of the interests of the country.

:41:45.:41:49.

To ask me first Mr what discussions the Scottish Government is having

:41:50.:41:52.

with the governing bodies of contact sports regarding head injuries.

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Firstly, on behalf of Parliament can I take this opportunity to convey

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sincere condolences to the family and friends of the boxer who lost

:42:05.:42:09.

his life in Glasgow last Thursday. The British boxing board is

:42:10.:42:12.

investigating the circumstances of this incident and it would be

:42:13.:42:15.

inappropriate for any of us to comment on details at this time. On

:42:16.:42:20.

the broader issue of concussion in sport we were the first country in

:42:21.:42:23.

the world to introduce standard guidelines for dealing with

:42:24.:42:26.

concussion in sport. These guidelines were published in May

:42:27.:42:29.

last year. The guidelines were developed with a range of experts

:42:30.:42:33.

including the Chief medical officers at the Scottish Government, Scottish

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rugby and be Scottish football is as a sham. They are made available to

:42:37.:42:40.

all sports clubs and cultures for contact and noncontact sports.

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-- footballers as the Asian. Can I find the Minister for that response.

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I also thank her for the very helpful to veggie sent to me this

:42:48.:42:55.

time last year following another First Minister's Questions when I

:42:56.:42:59.

raised the same issue. She said that she fully recognised the seriousness

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of the issue and intimated that guidance would be updated on regular

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basis. I wonder if these updates have taken place and whether

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consideration has been given to the fact that there is currently

:43:11.:43:13.

different guidance for serious concussion injuries in different

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sports. For example, in boxing the suspension is a minimum of 28 days,

:43:18.:43:22.

whereas in rugby the minimum is seven days away from the sport.

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Would she agree that the medical expert panel to which she referred

:43:26.:43:29.

might need to look at whether there should be a standard approach?

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As I said in a rigid Lancer we have introduced standard guidelines for

:43:36.:43:39.

dealing with concussion in sport but shrug as I said in my previous

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answer. When this law issue was last raised with me I think the prospect

:43:44.:43:50.

of legislation that concern is that at this stage legislation would not

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be helpful. What I said then is what I say today, we need to keep this

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under review, and as we do so we need to inform the best medical

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opinions will stop I'm happy to take the comments Liz Smith has made

:44:05.:44:07.

today and make sure they are discussed by the panel of medical

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experts that form these decisions. I am happy to enter into further

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correspondence over what we've done. That includes question Time today.

:44:16.:44:19.

We now move on to remember's business. The very sad subject of

:44:20.:44:24.

the death of that boxer. My sympathies to the family. A wide

:44:25.:44:30.

range of other questions there. Brexit was a dominant factor. I

:44:31.:44:34.

remind you of this report from the Fraser of an inter-Institute. It

:44:35.:44:38.

tracks the various scenarios from Europe. A full-scale hard Brexit,

:44:39.:44:45.

disengagement, on each of those scenarios jobs going, the economy

:44:46.:44:51.

down. A decline in GDP, and a decline in jobs. That was raised.

:44:52.:44:58.

Ruth Davidson raised that. It might have been described as a courageous

:44:59.:45:00.

move. Brave indeed. She knew that she was

:45:01.:45:04.

walking into First Minister's Questions today to face a barrage of

:45:05.:45:09.

criticism. It must be particularly galling given that she probably

:45:10.:45:13.

agrees with a lot of the things that Nicola Sturgeon says.

:45:14.:45:23.

There is no getting away from it, she is in the same party as the

:45:24.:45:27.

people who said all these things she will continue getting pelted the

:45:28.:45:32.

Government finally knocks on the head this idea that foreign workers

:45:33.:45:36.

will be put on lists. It was a brave move to raise that report. The issue

:45:37.:45:41.

of foreign workers on breasts but also Ruth Davidson challenging the

:45:42.:45:45.

First Minister to mitigate the impact of Brexit -- foreign workers

:45:46.:45:50.

on lists. A courageous decision given the origin of Brexit. Yes, a

:45:51.:45:57.

cheeky moving away given that her party is going to take the whole of

:45:58.:46:02.

the UK out of the EU and given the Scottish Government obviously does

:46:03.:46:09.

not have international trade as one of its areas, so Nicola Sturgeon

:46:10.:46:12.

obviously answered quite proactively about taking and setting up pubs in

:46:13.:46:20.

Dublin and Brussels and going into international markets saw it put her

:46:21.:46:23.

on the front foot in saying that we do not have these powers but we are

:46:24.:46:29.

doing things anyway. And she did try to stress that her Government is

:46:30.:46:33.

determined to if possible mitigate the impact of Brexit but she was on

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a tricky wicket there as well because no one knows precisely the

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impact. Even the Fraser of Allander Institute report gives a wide range.

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I just spent three days in Birmingham were at the lack of

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detail was apparent. The speeches, there was no meat them at also

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everyone and... We are still getting Brexit means Brexit, we'll make it a

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success and that is all. If the UK Government is not being clear and it

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is very do offer Nicola Sturgeon to be clear about what the impact will

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be. Willie Rennie broadened it on the points you make about Amber

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Rudd's speech about an audit of foreign workers. The First Minister

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said it would be appalling if they were used as bargaining chips. First

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Minister is really exercised about this, isn't she? She is really

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angry. She's right, I think many people are appalled. I think most

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people in the rest of the UK are appalled at this idea and the UK

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Government are going to put out a consultation on this idea of having

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a foreign worker list. But I think they should kill it off. The

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business reaction has been appalling, the reaction from Tory

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supporting papers like the Telegraph has been appalling and the sooner

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they kill it, the better for the Government and for Ruth Davidson as

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well. On this point, Amber Rudd as was noted seems to have rolled back

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a bit from saying that this is something the UK Government will

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definitely do. Yes, it's strange. You'd think she would have predicted

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the reaction she has got but a think it's clear from the way she is

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backtracking now but she obviously did not expect that. Perhaps at a

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conference it seems like some in that reflects the mood? Perhaps it

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reflects the mood within the party but she did not realise what the

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reaction would be within the wider country. So, yes, it suggests a bit

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of out of touch in terms of what she thought was going to happen by

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saying that. Our different topic but the question of hate crime and

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hateful attitudes but it was linked as well by Christina McKelvie to,

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perhaps unfairly, to the response at the Conservative conference. Then we

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had quite a substantial debate about decline in hate crime but reminding

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that Islamophobic a crime is up. There was generally hate crime

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following in that report. Actually, what was not mentioned in there and

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which links into the Brexit thing was a third of Scots are worried

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about Eastern EU immigration taking their jobs but that was perhaps not

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mentioned by Christina McKelvie because it would not fit in with her

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line of argument. It's only the case that there are those attitudes here

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in Scotland as well is out of the border. Let's turn to these things

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that were raised by Kezia Dugdale for Labour, about ScotRail. She was

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talking about a very populist nerve. Commuters are sick of her services.

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Absolutely. It is something that we are hearing from across the UK with

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Sutherland strikes still going on. I feel that Kezia Dugdale does not

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really managed to get an answer from the First Minister because she

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raised the point about ticket prices versus wages and I think it was 23%

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was the cap on ticket price rises and 6% was the amount that raises...

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Wages are going up. She asked it and I think Nicola Sturgeon got around

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it and just hopped about service levels that they are working on and

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the kind of improvement they are working on the day have asked

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ScotRail for. It is always an open goal, this one. Commuters are sick

:50:11.:50:14.

of the service they get but she pushes it on a range of topics or a

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range of aspects. Yes, I think Kezia Dugdale picked as subject that

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really does annoy people and that is a thing. I am lucky enough to live

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in Edinburgh so I don't have to commute but enough of my friends do

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and are scathing about the service and you could tell that Nicola

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Sturgeon was in some bother. She said that she was not going to make

:50:34.:50:39.

excuses. There was no real substantive answer to the questions

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that Kezia Dugdale was raising. Hold of Razak and we will track for a

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moment. Back to Brexit, I have talked to John McAlpine who is the

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convener of the European committee that are having a commission. They

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are the ones who commissioned this Fraser of Allander reports that has

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caused so much fuss. But they are investigating the impact of Brexit

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in Scotland. I asked if there should be able to hear at Holyrood on the

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bill, the great repeal bill as the Prime Minister calls it. I'd put it

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to her that UK sources were saying this was a matter for the UK because

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it was the UK as a whole that would be leaving the EEC can make European

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Union. Here was her response. That's absolute nonsense. It impacts on so

:51:26.:51:34.

many default areas and its impact on Scottish businesses, Scottish

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organisations, Scottish charities, the cultural sector and even in

:51:37.:51:40.

areas where we are told we will get all the power back, like fishing for

:51:41.:51:45.

example, we are told that will be repatriated. The maritime boundaries

:51:46.:51:48.

are not going to be repatriated and there is already talk of the UK

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Government is using Scotland's fishing grounds as a bargaining tool

:51:52.:51:55.

because they determine who gets access to them. There is a lot of

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areas where Scotland will be affected so it's important that the

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Government gives all sectors a voice because they certainly will not get

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a voice to Westminster. You have two elements here. Negotiations, which

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is UK Government is consulting but when you have this bill that is now

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being proposed, the title my great repeal Bill the Prime Minister is

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calling it to return powers to these islands. Do you think Holyrood

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should have a role in that? Should there be a register of consent

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motion that allows a vote in this Parliament as well? I would've

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thought there would have to be alleged to have consent motion

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because it impacts are many areas of Scottish law. EU law is constrained

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in Scots law so it will affect that so it has to be EU legislative

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consent. You think that is plain? Some people are saying that it is

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about foreign affairs Constitution. I think there is a huge lack of

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understanding about the devolution sextant. There is only one

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convention that says if there is little in the Westminster parliament

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that impacts on devolved areas it must get the consent of the Scottish

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parliament. Clearly, this impacts on devolved areas and the decision on

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the LCM as I understand it is made here. It's made by the presiding

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officer, for example. What of that is contested by Westminster? That

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would be an unprecedented constitutional territory. It is the

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Government here and BPO, my understanding, that are in charge of

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the United have consent process. What if voices, officials, whatever,

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MPs and ministers at Westminster say that this is purely a UK matter?

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They can say what they like, but is our decision. We make the judgment

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on whether it goes to the Scottish parliament and in the Scottish

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Parliament vote on its democratic way. We have advisers to our

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committee, one of them Sean Douglas Scott who is professor of law at

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London University, so I believe she is doing some work on this for the

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committee... Does this go to a legal battle, visible to a political

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battle? I think there would be a huge constitutional crisis. It is

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important to remember that Theresa May in this whole process when she

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came Prime Minister, she started off on the right fit. He came to

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Scotland, told us we would be involved, she would not trigger

:54:19.:54:22.

Article 50 as such times as she had a UK wide agreements. Now she's gone

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ahead and said she will trickle Article 50. She does not have UK

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wide agreements. She hasn't even set up the mechanism to consult with the

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devolved governments. We have not had a meeting of the joint

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ministerial committee yet. She says this is ultimately for the UK

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Government to take the UK as a whole out of the European Union. That is

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not what she said in July. What she said then was that there would be a

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UK wide approach and we would not be windowdressing, the First Minister

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said, we would be involved in shaping the UK's negotiating

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position. That is not what she is saying now. That whole respect

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agenda seems to be out of the window. It is another broken promise

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just that they broke a promise not to take it out of the EU if we voted

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no in the independence referendum. There we have it. Joan McAlpine

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making her views very clear. Simon, does this matter? Do you think there

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has to be alleged to have consent motion. Should Holyrood have its

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say? I think Theresa May was not born yesterday. If she really going

:55:27.:55:31.

to offer the Scottish Parliament the chance of a consent motion solicitor

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and it down? She has already not been very keen of it going to

:55:37.:55:39.

Westminster Parliament, let's be honest. Certainly trying to avoid

:55:40.:55:42.

the trigger going through the parliament. Why would you? There

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would be a crisis if you make that offer and then it was rejected and

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the great repeal bill was withheld, so it would seem likely that it

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would be rejected, so I don't see in a million years why she would do

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that. Ultimately, Westminster can say Holyrood has withheld consent of

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these things, how sad, we are carrying on but that would not be

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good politics as Simon is suggesting. No, it is a risk. Try to

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get this balance. I think we have seen a shift because to begin with

:56:16.:56:18.

Theresa May seem to be very cold so later it would Scotland. Joan

:56:19.:56:20.

McAlpine says there has been a U-turn. There has been a shift.

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First they seem to be a working together, yes, we will talk to

:56:25.:56:29.

everyone is happy with its. Now those very much, we will not have

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national standing in our way, we don't need to tell you what we are

:56:33.:56:35.

doing. Do you think there has been a shift? If there has been, Theresa

:56:36.:56:40.

May does seem to be seen consulting with Nicola Sturgeon. I agree with

:56:41.:56:50.

Joan McAlpine on that, there must be formal talks, negotiations. We are

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early on in the process at the moment, but there has to be that.

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There are two things. There are the negotiations and the bill. The

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negotiations, you are saying should be involving Scotland. Absolutely.

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She should be seen to be doing that southern Nicola Sturgeon is feeding

:57:06.:57:09.

her ideas into the negotiation stance. What is the danger from a UK

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perspective otherwise? The danger is, obviously we already have

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Scotland being taken out against its will on terms to which it didn't

:57:19.:57:22.

agree, that just makes it even worse. We're hearing from the

:57:23.:57:26.

Scottish Government that there is to be a joint ministerial committee at

:57:27.:57:29.

the end of this month and they want this to be a platform for their

:57:30.:57:32.

involvement, don't they? But on the other hand, David Mundell and

:57:33.:57:35.

Theresa May are saying they will consult with and engaged but the UK

:57:36.:57:42.

Government will take the UK out of the EU. It is challenging for them

:57:43.:57:48.

because they need to consult, they need to be seen to be taken on board

:57:49.:57:53.

ideas, but at the same time, they to retain control and say it is

:57:54.:57:56.

actually asked that is in charge because at the end of the day...

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Very briefly, Simon. SNP conference next week. It might come up? Just on

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the fringe somewhere? Everyone will be hanging on every word the Nicola

:58:07.:58:10.

Sturgeon has to say about a second independence referendum. Is she

:58:11.:58:12.

going to try to march them down from the top of the hill or issue

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actually going to hit the button as it were? We will be watching avidly,

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I'm sure. Thank you both. Little bit of a sushi kicking around social

:58:24.:58:29.

media. Idol read it myself, but I'm told it's happened. Apparently he

:58:30.:58:32.

thinks some of the Scottish press are a bit lazy in their attitude to

:58:33.:58:36.

coverage. I was going to discuss it with my colleagues here, but we just

:58:37.:58:41.

couldn't be bothered, basically (!) We can get round to it. That is the

:58:42.:58:47.

end of the of questions to the First Minister. Brexit dominating. We will

:58:48.:58:52.

be off to the SNP conference next week. From me, goodbye.

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