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A good New Year, welcome to coverage of questions from Holyrood and the

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Scottish Parliament, questions to the First Minister. A period of one

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on me after the Christmas break. Let us find out what is going on.

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Here is Kezia Dugdale asking about the First Minister's engagements.

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Parts of the country are facing a renewed risk of flooding, it is

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appropriate to thank all of those in our emergency services, particularly

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the police, fire, utility companies, local authorities and individuals

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and businesses in local communities working so hard to respond. I and

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other ministers will be updated on this throughout the day and working

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to ensure all appropriate action is being taken. I will have engagements

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to take forward the Government programme for Scotland.

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Can I send my best wishes to all those affected by the floods and the

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emergency services for their tireless work.

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In her New Year message, the First Minister said 2016 would be the year

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of ambition. I couldn't agree more. It is why I set out a plan to help

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young people realise their ambitions and aspirations. For many young

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Scots, earning their home is a key ambition. For thousands of people

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from my generation, it is a pipe dream. Thousands are stuck in a

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cycle from which there is little escape, they rented to save a

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deposit, the rents are so high people cannot put enough money

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aside. They end up paying higher rent for years with no prospect of

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buying. Can the First Minister tell us what

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proportion of young people in Scotland today live in the private

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rented sector? There is a significant proportion of

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young people as across all age groups who rely on the private

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rented sector. That is why one of the focuses of this Government has

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been through a variety of measures and legislation on making sure we

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have a high-quality and affordable private rented sector. I know the

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importance of that well from my constituency where the quality is

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just as important as affordability. Kezia Dugdale will be aware of the

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plan is the Government has two introduce new measures in terms of

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rent controls which is vital to ensure affordability. I hope we can

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work together on this. In terms of the aspiration of young people for

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home ownership, that is one like everyone understands and wants to

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support. This Government since the moment we were elected has focused

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on, firstly, trying to help people into home ownership, we have helped

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20,000 people into home ownership through shared equity schemes and

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help to buy, three quarters are under the age of 35.

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Secondly and most importantly, what this Government is doing is

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increasing housing supply. That is why I am proud we have exceeded our

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target of 30,000 affordable homes, and we are looking to 50,000 new

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affordable homes across the next Parliament as well.

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I welcome the sincerity of that response but it wasn't an answer to

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my question. Amongst that, the First Minister failed to face up to 30 of

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life for people of my generation. In 1999, 13% of people aged 16-34 left

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in private rented accommodation. Today, it is 41%, a threefold

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increase. Thousands of young people in Scotland paying higher rents to

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private landlords rather than owning their home. It is generation rent.

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What the First Minister's generation took for granted is often out of

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reach of the people of my generation. When Nicola Sturgeon was

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first elected, half of those aged 16-34 owned their own home. Can the

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First Minister tell us what that figure is today under the SNP

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Government? I was trying to respond to the first

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question by being serious about the scale of the challenge. There are

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more people across all age groups who are living in the private rented

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sector. Some people, not everybody, I am not suggesting it is a

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majority, some make a positive choice to rent rather than buy. That

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is why we should also focus on making sure people have quality

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options. In terms of home ownership, the

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housing crisis is part of the overall financial and economic

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crisis. Order! This has posed a real

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challenges in terms of home ownership.

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We have seen in recent times increases in the numbers of

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first-time buyers, a 4% increase over the last quarter, and a higher

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increase over the past year. We see that going in the right direction.

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This Government has made a very deliberate choice to focus on what

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we consider to be the things that really matter in housing. Firstly,

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making sure we have got the right number of houses being provided

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which is why 30,000 target this Parliament has been important, the

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50,000 target for next Parliament is so important. I haven't heard Labour

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make any commitment to housing supply in the next Parliament.

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Secondly, we are focusing on whatever tenure of housing people

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have, they have access to high-quality houses, that is what my

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Government remains focused on. Iain Gray is sitting next to Kezia

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Dugdale, he said in an admirable moment of honesty for the Labour

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Party the problem for the last Labour Administration was they

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forgot to build the houses to make it possible to make the legislation

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to be implemented. We moved from consensus to

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mudslinging in Bonn question, First Minister. Once again... There was no

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answer to the question that I asked. I will give the First Minister the

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answer. In 1999, 40 8% of Scots under 35 owned their own home. That

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stands at 28% today. Is this the scale of the Government action over

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for just over one quarter of young Scots to have the security from

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owning their own home? Today, it takes a young couple on an

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average wage ten years to save enough for a typical deposit for

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their first home. Labour would help young people get

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their first deposit by adding to their savings, we would encourage

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people to put money away if they can and, in return, help them get on

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that property ladder. We know the First Minister cannot

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bring herself to back that plan. We know her proposals do not meet the

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scale of the challenge. What will she do to help people in

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Scotland by their first home? I have outlined a number of things

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and we'll come back to the plans of this Government.

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Kezia Dugdale is right to mention the fact there has been a challenge

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in getting people into home ownership. A recession, a financial

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crisis is contributing to a housing crisis. That is why those numbers

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are as they are. But what she chooses to ignore is

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the fact, in the last quarter, we have seen an increase in first-time

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buyers. An increase in first-time buyers of 16% over the last year.

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That is what I want to focus on, helping more people into home

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ownership which is why we have an open market shared equity scheme

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which gives people up to 40% of the cost of buying a house and helps

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them in that way. We will continue to focus on these schemes to help

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people with the aspiration to own their own home. We will also, and

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this I notice is something Kezia Dugdale has chosen to dodge around

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in her discussions. Housing supply is at the root of many of the issues

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we are talking about, I quoted Iain Gray. Let me give her another view

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of someone more topical in the Labour Party, the Shadow Chancellor

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John McDonnell, I do not know whether Kezia Dugdale is one who

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supports him but believe that to one side. He said, Labour inherited a

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housing crisis from the Tories which we exacerbated by not building

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houses. That is the issue. That is why in

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this Parliament we have already exceeded our target of 30,000 new

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affordable homes, why we are determined if we are elected in May

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to build 50,000 new affordable homes. Labour have made no

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commitment to supply. Maybe that is because we know in this election

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Labour is not aspiring to be the garment, they are filed the -- they

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are fighting to hold on to second place.

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Kezia Dugdale. In all of that, the First Minister cannot escape the

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reality home ownership is at its lowest level since 1999. Because

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young people in Scotland are getting a raw deal from this SNP Government,

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bearing the brunt of an austerity agenda this First Minister seems

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content to manage rather than change. Young Scots are less likely

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to own their own home. They are more likely to be stuck in private rented

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accommodation. Their hard earned cash boost in the profits of private

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landlords rather than investing in their own future.

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We want to spend money helping young people by their first home. Nicola

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Sturgeon would rather spend money giving Ellice a tax cut.

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Isn't it the case -- giving airlines. Is it the case the First

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Minister is on the side of the big airlines while Scottish Labour is on

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the side of young families tried to get on in life?

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Not the first, not even a second but the third use of APD money... Let me

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remind Kezia Dugdale yet again of her own words from the 30th of

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October last year. We would scrap the APD measure which we would then

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spend that money on education. So, it was education, it became tax

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credits, now housing. Not the behaviour of a credible opposition,

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let alone a credible alternative Government. Let us get back to the

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important issue for people out there across the country, of housing. I

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talked about our support for shared equity and help to buy. Let me

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remind her of something else we have helped people particularly

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first-time buyers, removing stamp duty, on all property transactions

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under ?145,000. Helping people buy starter homes. We will continue to

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help first-time buyers but do it in a sensible way, not in a way which

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won't give first-time buyers any help until they have saved for three

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years, and help push up costs pile -- house prices. We will continue to

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see private accommodation sees a rise in the quality and

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affordability. We will focus on building more houses because it is

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through that that we get the cost of houses down and get more people to

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buy them. That is why we are so successful in this Parliament and

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will be even more so in the next one.

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Question number two, Ruth Davidson. To ask the First Minister when she

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will next meet the Prime Minister? No current plans. May I associate

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myself with the comments regarding emergency and local authority

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workers. The flooding across Britain these past weeks have been

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devastating for thousands of families. We know it is continuing

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to affect people across Scotland. We need to know how they will be

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supported. On December 29, the UK garment

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announced an extra ?50 million intermediate support for homes and

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businesses affected. ?5 million was handed to the

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Scottish Government and it is up to them how that money is spent. As

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Alex Fergusson said on Tuesday, he is still receiving phone calls from

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people in Newton Stewart wondering why people in Cumbria are already

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receiving support while they are not. Other Members will be receiving

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similar calls. Ministers have had this new money

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for nearly a fortnight, why are they dragging their feet?

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Ruth Davidson raises an important issue. But she is unfair in her

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characterisation. She will recall as all Members across the Chamber will

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recall that the Deputy First Minister when he announced the

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budget just before we broke for the Christmas recess, announced an

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allocation of ?4 million to those local authority areas most affected

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by the flooding caused by storm Desmond in early December, to help

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those local authorities support flood hit local households and

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businesses. That money is there to provide flat rate grants of ?1500 to

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individuals, businesses or groups directly affected by flooding.

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John Sweeney said last week when he was visiting communities, that we

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will very shortly make an additional announcement about an additional

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allocation to deal specifically with the impact of storm Frank, and what

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we have seen in the days after. We are taking care to discuss with

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local authorities the appropriate amount of that allocation will be.

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It is right, it is proper and focused on helping people who have

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been so hard-hit. In addition, local authorities can

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apply for help to deal with the immediate impact of flooding, and we

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will continue to invest to make sure that local authorities are able to

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put into place the appropriate flood protection and flood defence schemes

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so we continue to remain focused, and I hope we have the support of

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people across the Chamber. I thank the presiding officer for her

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answer, but the ?4 million she talks about is a previous allocation. It

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has nothing to do with the subsequent ?5 million that I asked

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about that people who are currently affected want to know how this

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government is going to spend and how it is going to help them. And I wait

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for further details on that answer. The First Minister says she's

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getting on with addressing the issues and she is getting support

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from the UK, but local authorities are saying amused by claims that

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future flood defences are being fully funded. Farmers and crofters

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who are bearing the brunt of these floods are still waiting for the

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support payments they were promised months ago because of what the NFU

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calls the SNP government's lumbered approach, and people are beginning

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to ask why is it that families can't get the support here they are

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getting elsewhere in the UK. I will give just one other example. Before

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Christmas, the UK Government set up an emergency recovery fund in flood

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affected regions that was designed to help restore soil, rebuilt

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tracks, and to repair flood channels. Scottish farmers are

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asking the Scottish government to mirror this scheme north of the

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border. Will the First Minister do so? We will take as we have done all

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appropriate action to help people affected by flooding. Ruth Davidson

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says we haven't announced the additional allocation. We are right,

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the reason for that is both a simple one and an understandable one to

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people. We are still dealing with an ongoing situation. I very much hope

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it is not the case that we will see communities affected by flooding

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again today but it is entirely possible that we will do, so we need

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to make sure we take time to assess the full impact so we know what an

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appropriate allocation of funding will be. It may be more than ?5

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million that we need to allocate in order to meet the impact that people

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are facing but just as we did in response to Storm Desmond, we will

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take the appropriate action in response to Storm Frank and the

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flooding that hit in the days after that, and the flooding that we may

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well see in parts of the country today. In terms of with Davidson's

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comment about flood protection and flood defences, we have funded all

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eligible schemes that have met the criteria in terms of flood defence

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systems. There are, as a result of it, 14th flood risk management

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strategies across Scotland, schemes over the remainder of this decade

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worth more than 200 million ?200 million that are planned. We

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guarantee local authorities to a 6% of our capital budget right through

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to 2020 with financial certainty that those schemes can be funded.

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That is the action we have taken. It is responsible, right, and it will

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be proportionate to the scale of the impact that be bloody thing with.

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And I personally and the ministers in my government who have one or

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more responsibilities in this remain absolutely focused to do everything

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we can and we need to do to help individuals, businesses and

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communities who have been so hard hit in recent weeks. I would like to

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ask the First Minister what impact the introduction of an upper band of

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the minimum wage for workers over 25 will have on pay and equality and in

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work poverty in Scotland? Are wage level for over 25s will be a benefit

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to some workers but we have concerns about the UK Government's approach

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to pay because it is not as this week's Resolution Foundation made

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clear a real living wage. The rise doesn't support people under 25, one

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of the groups most affected by the recession, and the introduction of

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this new rate won't compensate workers for the ?12 billion in

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reductions to welfare, given it will be introduced alongside the

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withdrawal of universal credit and tax credit cuts. We want to

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encourage employees to promote equality and tackle poverty. The

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real living wage is captivated according to the basic cost of

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living and that is what the Scottish government will continue to focus

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our efforts on. I agree with much of that assessment, combined with

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welfare changes, the measure won't abolish in work poverty. By leaving

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younger workers behind, it risks deepening their exploitation by the

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most unscrupulous employers. The First Minister knows the greens wish

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the fair work agenda to be bolder. It emphasises support those

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employers willing rather than the more robust approach for the

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employers less willing. Isn't it time for the First Minister to

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consider insuring that taxpayer funded as the support services will

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only be available to those employers who treat the upper 25 year band of

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the minimum wage as the minimum for workers of all ages to make sure

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that we don't just have an all carrot nose stick approach which may

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work for some employees but not for the worst. Patrick Harvie had an

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exchange during the debate the other day with John Sweeney on this very

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issue and I appreciate where Patrick Carvey is coming from. I want our

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further work agenda to be real and meaningful, and it is that. We are

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the any government in the whole of the UK that has a Cabinet level

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Minister dedicated to promoting fair work. What we're trying to do with

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both the living wage accreditation scheme and through the business

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pledge and through the fair work convention is say to businesses that

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they should be employing fair work practices, not as some kind of

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favour to government, not as something we feel they have to do,

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but as something that is beneficial to them, and to the prosperity of

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their businesses, as well as beneficial to their employees. And

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that is the whole ethos that we are trying to encourage, and that is

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bearing success. We are now the part of the UK outside the south-east

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with the highest percentage of people paid the real living wage,

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and the number of employers that are accredited rise considerably, and a

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growing number of companies have signed up. We will continue to give

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that focus to that work. We will continue to consider and to discuss

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how we can accelerate progress. I look forward in this Parliament to

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discuss these things and to hearing the ideas and suggestions of Patrick

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Harvie and his colleagues. The First Minister will be aware that support

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industries like retail, hospitality and the care sector to pay the real

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living wage will weep significant benefits for those employees, many

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of those of whom are under 25, so what action is the Scottish

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government taking to specifically target those sectors to pay the real

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living wage? Well, these sectors, and Jackie Baillie is right about

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this, there are a small number of sectors that employ large numbers of

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people that we need to make most progress in if we are going to lift

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the overall numbers paid the living wage. Relatively recently, we had a

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summit, which was very focused on retail and leisure and care sectors,

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and we will bring forward in the debate on Tuesday over the next few

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months small proposals of our own about how we extend payment of the

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living wage further. There's no doubt in my mind that if we get more

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and more people onto the living wage, we will help to raise the

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quality of work, which is why it is so much in the interest of

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businesses and employers, but we will also go a great way to deal

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with the inequality and poverty challenges that we face, so I had

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this is an area that notwithstanding whatever disagreements we have, we

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will find areas to agree on. This week's research by the Resolution

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Foundation states that 500 thousand low-paid workers in Scotland will

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benefit from the new look living wage by 2020. The Resolution

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Foundation said we welcome the new National living wage which will have

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a huge impact on low pay. Should she be more welcoming of this policy? If

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I can repeat the first line of my first answer to trick Harvey, a

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higher wage level for over 25s will be of benefit to some low-paid

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workers so nobody can argue with that. It doesn't go far enough. The

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real living wage, lots of people outside this government, lots of

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people have put a lot of work in over a long number of years to

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calculate what the real living wage should be. And the real living wage

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is captivated very deliberately according to the basic cost of

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living, which is why I think the real living wage is the figure we

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should be aspiring to get people paid. That is what I'll continue to

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focus on. Anything that takes us in that direction of course is to be

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welcomed but I will not limit myself to the ambition that characterises

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the Tory party, I will aim much higher than that. Thank you. I'd

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like to ask the First Minister what discussions the Scottish government

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has had with the UK Government regarding the proposed referendum on

:25:52.:25:55.

EU membership. The Scottish government is practising gauge with

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the UK Government, at ministerial and official level, to influence

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both the form of the referendum and the UK Government's agenda for EU

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renegotiation, in order to protect Scotland's interest the Mac. We

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spoke about this issue at our meeting in December with the Prime

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Minister. The Scottish government believes EU membership is in the

:26:15.:26:18.

best interest of Scotland and we are concerned the people of Scotland

:26:19.:26:22.

could be taken out of the EU against our will. We've also sought and we

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will continue to seek engagement in the UK's renegotiation process but

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to date, the pig government has not provided us with sufficient detail

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or opportunity to meaningfully influence these proposals but we

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will carry on making attempts. I thank the First Minister for her

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answer. How can we trust the Prime Minister on Europe when he cannot

:26:44.:26:48.

even get members of his own cabinet to agree with him. What can the

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First Minister and her government do to ensure that Scotland is not

:26:53.:26:56.

hauled out of Europe against its will? I'm not surprised that the

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prime minister has been forced on a free vote amongst his Cabinet

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colleagues in the referendum because the Tories have always been split

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from top to bottom on Europe. The referendum, far from healing these

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splits so far only seems to be making them worse. I'm not sure if

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the Scottish Tories have got a position. It is a complete free for

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all in the Scottish Tories. No idea how many positions will be

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represented on those benches. But that is for the Tories to worry

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about. What I'm concerned about is this prospect of Scotland, if it

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votes, and I take nothing for granted, but if Scotland was to vote

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to stay in in the EU, but the UK taken out, that would be a

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democratic outrage. And I think it is a cause of real concern. I will

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be campaigning, speaking out from my own part, I'll be campaigning to

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seek to persuade people, not just in Scotland, but I hope people across

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the UK choose to stay in the EU because, notwithstanding its

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imperfections, our interests are best served by being with them. To

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ask the First Minister whether the Scottish government will conduct a

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review of flood defences in conjunction with local authorities

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in light of this winter's flooding incidents? As I've already commented

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on today, the scale of the flooding that was seen in recent days has

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been exceptional. And the impact has been devastating for many people

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across the country. The response from our emergency services,

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volunteers, members of the public, councils and others working together

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to keep communities safe, minimise damage, that response has been

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heroic, but there is a long road for the people most affected. A review

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of flood defences was conducted in 2007. The Scottish government has

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made available funding of ?42 million a year to enable local

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authorities to invest in flood protection schemes. As I've just

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said to Ruth Davidson, we have 14 flood risk management strategies in

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place and a number of schemes that will be funded over the years to

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come. It is right that when we've experienced flooding such as that as

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we've seen in recent weeks that we do consider carefully any lessons

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that can be learned from what has been an exceptional situation and

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consider what further mitigating actions we can take for the future,

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and this government will do that. Thank you, first Minister's. If you

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are committing to a review in the light of recent flooding incidents,

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I'd wholeheartedly welcome that. The response in communities has been

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inspiring. But communities, businesses and local authorities are

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Killy concerned about the huge cost they've already incurred in dealing

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with this public emergency. And if I can follow up the First Minister's

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answer to Ruth Davidson earlier, the deputy First Minister has encouraged

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?4 million. Can the First Minister clarify the Scottish government will

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fully fund all those local tax reductions and given the cost of

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flooding is estimated to be a quarter of ?1 billion every year

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now, can we have a review to have it a new look, a fresh look at the

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resilience for infrastructure, our homes, businesses, our farming

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communities for the future, given that with the financial pressures on

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local authorities, not all amenities at risk of flooding will receive

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flood defences over the next five years. As I said in my initial

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answer, of course we need to make sure that we learn any lessons that

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need to be learned. It would be wrong to take any other approach.

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What I don't want us to do, though, I didn't want is to do this because

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of the significant work that has been done to get as to the position

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of the 14 flood risk management strategies in place is involve

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ourselves in another long-running review when there is work there

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planned details worked out that we need to get on with. For example,

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the community of Newton Stewart I visited, there is a scheme planned

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as part of the flood risk management strategy, that we need to get on

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with not look again at a wide-ranging review. So, let's focus

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on that. In terms of the financial support, as I've said we've received

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during this session, we will take a decision very soon about a further

:31:28.:31:31.

financial allocation to help councils with things like rates

:31:32.:31:34.

relief, and direct financial support to individuals and businesses that

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have been impacted. And we will, as I've said repeatedly, take whatever

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steps we need to take to make sure we are doing all that is reasonable

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for us to do to help with those that have been so badly hit in recent

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days. To ask the First Minister how many children are receiving free

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school meals. Almost exactly a year ago I went back to my old primary

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school to launch the introduction of free school meals for all children

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from year one to three. That is proving very successful. Over

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129,000 pupils are benefiting from free school meals, and over 192,000

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children across primary, secondary and special schools took one. Thank

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you. I thank the First Minister for higher answer and pleased that this

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policy is proving such a success nationally. But disappointed the

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take-up in Renfrewshire is lower than the national average. Can the

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First Minister advise what funding is provided to local authorities to

:32:45.:32:47.

enable more children to benefit from free school meals, and what more can

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be done by local authorities, like Labour-controlled Renfrewshire

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Council, to promote further take-up? I'm sure your time will come, Mr

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Adam. You may have sparked celebrations in Paisley that their

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boy in Parliament has been promoted to the office of First Minister! The

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government has fully funded the roll-out of free school meals for P1

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to three with millions of pounds of capital. We've allocated a further

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?53 million for 2016-17 so local authorities can continue to provide

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free school meals for all children in primary one to three. It's one of

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the many ways in which we are putting the tackling of inequality

:33:40.:33:43.

at the heart of an agenda, giving children a healthy, nutritious meal

:33:44.:33:47.

at school, while saving parents around ?380 a year per child. We

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want more children to benefit in every local authority and will

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continue to work with education authorities to ensure continued

:33:56.:33:58.

promotion of take-up of school meals so that all children can benefit,

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and all members across the Chamber have a role to play in making sure

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all children that are entitled take up the option of a free school

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meals. That ends First Minister's questions. The close of questions to

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the First Minister. The discussion of free school meals, evidence of

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the eclectic menu on offer today. Perhaps among it all, the discussion

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there about the awesome impact, the terrifying impact the natural

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calamity of the floods. It understandably dominated, the First

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Minister was trying to reassure the Chamber that everything that was

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possible was being done. That we hand you over to daily politics.

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will look at, many people would want to do that, I don't think it is a

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particularly big issue because of the Cold War it was, it isn't now.

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Russia is not planning to invade the West. Are you sound as part of your

:34:55.:34:58.

defence review, not only are you looking we should renew the nuclear

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deterrent but you are also looking at whether we

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