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A warm welcome from the Scottish Parliament here at Holyrood. Loads

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happening with MSPs discussing it Union Terrace Gardens and the

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future of the city centre of Aberdeen. The Green Investment Bank

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coming to Edinburgh, good news for the capital and also contention as

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ever over the referendum with the Electoral Commission given their

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views over the timing of the franchise and other matters. Let's

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see what is happening in the chambers, it is questions to the

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First Minister. And Glenn Campbell is there. The Cabinet secretary for

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infrastructure, Alec Neil on his feet. They have been discussing tax

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income and funding, a pilot scheme in Aberdeen. Now here's the main

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event. Johann Lamont of the Labour Party. To us the First Minister

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what in it was he has planned for the rest of this international

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women's day. With your permission, I would like to say just a few

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words for a woman who died tragically last weekend. -- a man.

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Paul McBride. His talent was great indeed and I believe he had a great

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deal more to contribute to the law and the future of Scotland. He will

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be sorely missed and I'm sure the whole chamber will wish to bear

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condolences as a Parliament to Paul's partner and his many friends

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and colleagues. Today it is international women's day. A day

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when the world celebrates achievements and contributions of

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women past and present. We rely on a huge contribution made by women

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to society. A fitting time to announce that the Scottish

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Government will fund the Scottish Resource Centre for Women in

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Science, Engineering and Technology at Napier University. Funding for

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the UK parent body had been removed by Westminster, the facility faced

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closure. We have acted to make sure that this centre which supports the

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success or women and fields of endeavour where they are

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significantly under-represented. It remains open to continue its vital

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work. Johann Lamont. May I on behalf of

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the Labour benches and our support and sympathy to the very sad and

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tragic loss of Paul McBride. But to his family and the critical debates.

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As the First Minister said, he will be sadly lost. John McAlpine this

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week like in Scotland's place in the United Kingdom to a woman in an

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abusive relationship. Does the First Minister agree? She did not.

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The Labour party feeling the need to misrepresent, really shouldn't

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treat usually important issues in this fashion. John McAlpine talked

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about the abuse of power. I think there are abuses of power in terms

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of Westminster over Scotland and I think if the Labour Party should

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try to treat the hugely important issue of abuse against women with

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the importance it deserves and not feel the desperate need to

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misrepresent what other people say. Johann Lamont. At the First

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Minister would be very careful about suggesting that people on

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this side wish to diminish the issue of domestic abuse and

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violence in the home. The reality is across this Parliament, there

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has been a commitment to address these questions which is precisely

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why a bit the First Minister should reflect on what his aide said. It

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is for the First Minister handle him and that is for him entirely,

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but I do not know many people who have entered into a Social Union

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and get the same bank account as the First Minister suggests for a

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separate Scotland, after an abusive relationship. He needs to deal with

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this. The aid's analogies are as offensive to women as his policies

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are. It is not being part of the United Kingdom which is holding

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women back. Female unemployment is higher in Scotland than the rest of

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the United Kingdom. When will you start doing something to help women

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back to work? Or like everything else, must we wait the 1,000 Days

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for a referendum before he lift a finger? A hugely important issue

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should not me demeaned by taking somebody's remarks totally out of

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context -- should not be demeaned. I would regard the Remploy we

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employees today suffering from an abuse of Westminster power. I would

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regard the cut to the Disability Living Allowance in Scotland as a

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huge abuse of power. And I would regard the plans to replace the

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Trident missiles in the Clyde as an enormous abuse of power. Which

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should be sorted out in Scotland. In terms of the seriousness of the

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issues we have challenged, we have taken that as a Parliament. I am

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sure she will be the first to acknowledge that against the

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extraordinary difficult circumstances of Westminster cuts,

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cuts that were told by Alistair Darling to be deeper, tougher than

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those of Margaret Thatcher, the fact that the investment in key

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areas in Scotland has not has been maintained but increased against

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this background is a huge tribute to the commitment that we as a

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government and a Parliament. For example, funding for violence

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against women has doubled. 21 million over three years up to 55

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million over four years up to 2012. Against that background of cuts

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imposed from Westminster, surely these figures indicate this

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Government's Endeavour - our joint endeavour - to give these hugely

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important issues the priority they deserve. Johann Lamont. I already

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acknowledge there is a commitment towards domestic abuse and a

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recognised the commitment to funding. I hear from the first Mr a

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critic of what the Tories in Westminster have done. I hear

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nothing of his responsibilities. The point I was making is that

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women's female unemployment is higher in Scotland than in the rest

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of the United Kingdom. That is his responsibility. The Deputy First

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Minister has also been making grand promises this week. Apparently it's

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only an independent Scotland where we can have a policy which did

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offend our sense of decency yet on her Government's watch, fuel

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poverty is doubled to what it is in England. She does nothing. Child

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care costs are higher than the United Kingdom and she does nothing.

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One in four children live in poverty and she does nothing. Isn't

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this the tomorrow government doing nothing for people in difficulties

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today. First Minister. Can I point out that the reason that a Tory

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Government rules over key areas of Scottish Life is precisely because

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the Labour Party have accepted the position of Westminster control

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over vital areas of Scotland. There is a huge difficulty in

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unemployment at the present moment across the sectors of society

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affecting women, young people, of course. But I think Johann Lamont

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should recognise that the employment rate, the number of

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people in jobs - and there at 10,000 more people employed in

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Scotland than there were just over one year ago - but the number of

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women in jobs is the highest across these islands. The employment rate

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in Scotland for women this high-end England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

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That is something which should be acknowledged. In terms of issues as

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we move forward, I think I have already said to Johann Lamont the

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importance I would stress and give to the figures we are seeing from

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modern apprenticeships. Remember the modern apprenticeships that the

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Labour Party voted against in the Budget debate. But has moved from

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27% of young women participating in modern apprenticeships when they

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were at a disgracefully low level of 15,000 up to 45% participating

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in modern apprenticeships now at the much increased level of 25,000.

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I hope that as a Parliament, we can unite. Not just for this year but

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stretching through the next five years and see that percentage of

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young women going into learning training and skills increasing as a

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contribution to our acknowledgement as a Parliament of the critical

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role of women in working and Scottish society. Johann Lamont and.

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The thirst Minister was talking to women, he would know his figures on

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employment for women are masking something much more serious. We

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have lost over 100,000 full-time jobs to temporary and part-time

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jobs. Women in local government - which you have targeted for cuts -

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and in the voluntary sector are having their hours cut. The figures

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are masking the fact that women disproportionately are suffering

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unemployment and under-employment. The gap between the words and

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reality grows as we speak. Last week, the First Minister told us

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that the only thing Rupert Murdoch got when he visited him was a cup

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of tea and a caramel wafer. Now we find out he also offered Rupert

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Murdoch a multi-million-pound tax cut. And of course, there's a

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pattern here. If you are a working person... We will hear the number,

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please. -- hear the member please. If you are a working person...

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Order, order. Warm words for what might happen in 1,000 days. If you

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are Fred Goodwin, you get all the backing the First Minister can

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muster. Donald Trump get direct access to the chief planning

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officer and if you're Rupert Murdoch, you get offers of one

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million pound tax cuts in exchange for headlines. Some might say,

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First Minister, Scotland bought and sold for Rupert Murdoch gold. Isn't

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it about time... Isn't it about time that we heard and women head

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and families across this country heard less about his fantasies for

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tomorrow and more about how you will deal with the realities of

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today? First Minister. I think that what would indicate that Johann

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Lamont would be better focused on one subject at a time in these

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question times. Let's look at the issues. The substantive issues...

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Order, we will hear the First Minister. The tour asking questions

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badly in 1 subject than asking them badly in six subject in my opinion!

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Let me give you the statistics. Accepting that unemployment is far

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too high, 10,000 more women in work than there was just over one year

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ago. The figure for employment - people actually in jobs - which is

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a very important figure, his 66.8% in Scotland and 65.3% in England.

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The number of young women not just starting modern apprenticeships is

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45% but also going up from 20% three years ago to 35% now. Still

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more work to do that again, it indicates that young women taking

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the ride for place in the workforce. In terms of positive destinations,

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young women leaving school, going on to positive destinations of

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full-time education, employment and training is now 90.4% and that is

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an increase. The commitment of this government to no compulsory

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redundancies in our controlled public sector and the health

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service is vital for all workers. This seems vital to me for women

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given the importance they played in the public sector workforce. And

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finally of course, the delivery - not the commitment, not the promise

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but the delivery of this government of something the Labour Party never

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did and that is the living wage of �7.23 per hour across the public

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sector. That is why when it came to the test last year, not just a vast

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majority of Scottish men but a substantial majority of Scottish

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women gave this government their endorsement and placed their hopes

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in this government for improving the lot of Scottish society and

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women by getting control over the towering heights of this economy so

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that we can mould a better future free of Tory Government.

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APPLAUSE Question number two, Ruth Davidson. I would like to thank the

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First Minister for his warm words regarding Paul McBride. Paul made a

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huge contribution to Scottish public life and had many friends

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across this chamber and the thought of the Conservative Party are with

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his partner and family. I would like to ask him when he will meet

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the first -- the Prime Minister. Their plans in the immediate future.

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Today the Scottish Tories are talking about the Arkle Bell and

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minimum pricing. Voluntary notification for Europe and a

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sensible that while we hope this of drinking across Scotland,

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Scottish industry is not penalised she did not prove effective.

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Yesterday the Scottish Conservatives tried to help

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employers by of blocking the retail levy. A Scotland only taxes and has

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a �95 million cash grant by the Cabinet Secretary to plug holes in

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his Budget. Aided and abetted by Labour. Unheralded in the SNP

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massive -- manifesto and with no it assessment to check its impact on

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Scottish retailers, this punitive tax will result in Scottish

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retailers having the highest business poundage for more than 20

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years. Already as there has said that this uncompetitive tax will

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add a significant cost to their business in Scotland and has warned

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that future projects may now be scrapped. Can I ask the First

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Minister, can you tell me how many young people right now unemployed

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by the retail sector in Scotland? First Minister. Firstly can I say

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to with Davies and that I welcome the Conservative Party's change in

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position on minimum pricing -- can ICT with Davidson. In discussions I

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have recently on the constitution with the Prime Minister, I hope

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that and we have seen the election, both the Liberal Democrats and the

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Conservatives see the importance and the crucial nature of Scotland

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confronting its difficulties with alcohol and seeing if legislation

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as were trying to see if we can combat the scourge of society. I

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welcome the movement in both the Liberal Democrat and other

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Conservatives to try to make this a success as a Parliament. I don't

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agree with her in terms of the impact she feels the retail lobby

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will have. As the, she mentioned. Plans for three new stores and the

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replacement people on 23rd January with full knowledge of the

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Government's plans for the retail levy. With Davies and, if she wants

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to say that we do not need this move in order to fund the

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critically important areas of public spending, areas incidently

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which she called for additional public spending for and oblivious

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to the bat but the pressure on the budget comes from her own

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colleagues in Westminster than perhaps she will detail for us here

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and now where she will see and what she would cut and where she would

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raise the money as opposed to having this completely proportion

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that levy which allows a vital contribution in terms of health

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education and terms of what the general confronting of the problem

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with alcohol. I will not say... I want to treat this matter in terms

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of... I was only saying it so I would not say it! I can say it if

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it helps. I do want to see us treat this vitally important matter of

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taking the initiative, having the courage to introduce a minimum

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pricing policy as part of an overall and general approach to

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confronting the scourge and evil of I think deep retail levy does not

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target those selling tobacco and alcohol. Calling it a health levy

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is a fig-leaf to the embarrassment of the finance secretary whose

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numbers did not add up. He did not answer my question regarding youth

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employment. I will answer it for him. More than one third of Scots

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working in retail are under the age of 25. It supports 80,000 young

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people directly and is a gateway to employment for thousands more. CBI

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Scotland, the Scottish Property Federation, the Scottish Retail

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Consortium, the Scottish Chambers of Commerce, the Scottish Council

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for Development and Industry, the wines trade association all

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condemned this tax as damaging to Scotland. The First Minister says

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he wants to be trusted with all of Scotland's taxes and we can see now

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what he would do with them. He would put them up and damage the

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companies which are preventing youth employment figures from going

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up. It is not too late, will he now is go up this cynical, anti-

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competitive, �95 million tax that will endanger jobs and investment

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in Scotland? Can I as gently as possible remind her that the

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application of a 2.5 increase in VAT was 10 times the impact of the

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retail levy? Not only that, the application of that applied to

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goods and services across the board. Best public health supplements, in

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the title is the clue to what is being done with the Revenue,

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applies to 0.1 % of the retail outlets in Scotland. Business rates

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which currently account for a 2% of their turnover will go to an

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estimated 2.3 % of turnover. A party which swept VAT end to the

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Scottish economy one year ago or oblivious to be minor impact on a

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small number of very large retailers or a public health levy

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which will help finance critical areas of preventative spend in

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Scotland. After the publication of those figures yesterday, it we had

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access to the to 0.6 billion lost to the Westminster Treasury m last

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year's accounts, then we would have a range of choices open to us which

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are not open under Tory rule from Westminster. The First Minister is

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aware of the decision by the UK Government to close factories in

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Scotland including one in Springburn. The First Minister will,

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I am sure, share my concern about the way this announcement has been

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made and the situation these workers are being placed in. Candy

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First Minister indicate what action his Government will take to support

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and re-employ workers in Scotland? Will he encouraged the increased

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use of section 19 provisions and confirm whether or not his

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Government responded formally to the consultation and if not, what

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action it took to influence the outcome? We have been in discussion

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on that very matter. That makes it all the more disappointing that the

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first notification we got was yesterday afternoon when we spoke

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to them and were given the announcement. It was of great

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disappointment, not Kohli de decision but the manner in which it

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was communicated given the amount of discussion there had been upon

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the general issue. The member touched on that but it is a very

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important issue in terms of Article 20. The developed a reader

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registration process which is ongoing and has had some

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substantial effect. Since 20th October 10 a total of nine

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contracts have been awarded to supported businesses. The latest

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financial data up which we now have in this key area in firms that 24

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million was spent supporting business by the public sector for

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the last financial year. I share the member's great disappointment

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and concern. I think the announcement at best was ill-timed

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and insensitive. The preparations that are necessary do not seem to

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have been done about how it the 100 and for disabled people, a total of

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111 jobs in Scotland will be guided into productive employment. These

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discussions must start as quickly as possible. The UK Government must

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accept its responsibility for the situation in which it has placed so

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many vulnerable people. Following the announcement by RBS that 190

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jobs are being cut in my constituency, what action is being

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taken to ensure employees who are made redundant are supported into

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new employment? Does he D there are times that RBS need solid political

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leadership. -- does he agree? perfectly right to point out it was

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a leaked letter rather than a statement but if the Royal Bank of

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Scotland were to be broken up it would have implications. I regret

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the memo by Vince Cable to the Prime Minister, there was no

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acknowledgement of that matter. I share the concern regarding job

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losses which have been announced. I am aware that Fergus Ewing has

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already responded to the member with rule details of support being

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provided. Can I say the jobs task force which has an agreement

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between the financial sector and the Scottish Government, has had

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substantial success in a loving people who have been released by

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the clearing banks to find other financial sector employment. --

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allowing people. I hope this goes some way to assuring the member

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that we will minimise the time these individuals are affected by

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their redundancy. What issues will be discussed at the next meeting of

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the cabinet? We will discuss issues of importance to dead people of

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Scotland. In the first edition of the Sun on Sunday the First

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Minister played down the role in the phone hacking scandal of the

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Sun, News International and the News of the World, using a defence

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that it was not just them but others did it too. He lent his

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support to Rupert Murdoch and yet was silent on the side of the

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victims of phone hacking. Does he agree that victims will be

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satisfied with his failure to stand up to News International? I do not

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know if he managed to attend the chamber last week when I made it

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clear of my full support for police investigations south and north of

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the border. I gave full support to the Levenson inquiry. I do think

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Willie Rennie should take on board operation motor man. I promised

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last week that just in case the identification of potential

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criminality in terms of data protection had not been fully

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understood by this chamber. He will find if he looks and that list that

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it extends across. There are very few Scottish examples in the

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analysis but none the less, every single part of it should be

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analysed and looked at as well as supporting the police inquiry into

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phone hacking and the Levenson inquiry. I hope now that will

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explain it to Willie Rennie and he will now accept our total

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commitment to ensuring the law is upheld. He prefers to cosy up

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rather than stand up to Rupert Murdoch. Earlier this week he was

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caught bragging about Rupert Murdoch's support for independence.

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We have discovered Rupert Murdoch wants to break up Britain in

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revenge for the Levenson inquiry. Our First Minister is only too

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happy to leap on that and ignore any victims. That was the trade,

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wasn't it? I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine. It is not de

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chats and the free tickets to the Gulf, my problem is that rather

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than stand up to Rupert Murdoch he has defended them and put his

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interests above those of the victims, is the First Minister are

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not ashamed of this deal? I think Willie Rennie would do well to look

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at my answer last week and listen to my answer to his first question

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before reading out his second. We have to uphold the police

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investigations and ask for a lot to be enforced and upheld which

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clearly was not done over recent years. That is a total commitment

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that this Government has. I do suggest to Willie Rennie that he

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has a good look at the findings of the investigation and the potential

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criminality and the number of titles which were named. As far as

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other remarks are concerned, I was going to start talking about

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Michael Brown and Liberal Democrat donors and how they are in no

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position to court to anyone about their associates but I know that

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Liberal Democrats have always wanted to adopt a holier than thou

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policy across politics. To ask the First Minister what the

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implications are of the findings in the Government's recently published

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State of the economy a report. highlighted the challenge facing

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the global economy and the economic outlook for the months ahead. We

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continue to take decisive action to promote growth and create jobs,

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action which helps Scotland to face the recession which is both shorter

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and shallower than that for the UK. That is confirmed by the report as

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well as the extraordinary challenges which will face public

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spending four years to come if we remain under the control of the

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London Treasury. Does he share my concern that UK Government cuts and

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revised inflation forecasts will cost the Scottish Government 18 %

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in spending power over the next four years? �10,000 for every man,

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woman and child in Scotland? Does he agreed that the figures revealed

:30:12.:30:16.

yesterday an independent Scotland would be in a stronger fiscal

:30:16.:30:21.

position than the UK as a whole? We would be better able to stimulate

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investment, generate growth, raise living standards and improve the

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quality of life for everyone living in Scotland? Yes, I agree. The

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figures published yesterday with the official kite mark, too �0.6

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billion, �510 for every man, woman and child in Scotland. These

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figures speak for themselves and the anti- independence parties in

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this chamber better get used to hearing it because they will hear a

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lot more of it. Now coming to a close on First Minister's Questions.

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Johann Lamont is trying to identify the First Minister with the rich

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and famous. Today she was trying to raise the cause of justice for

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women and suggesting that only one of the First Minister's aides had

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used inappropriate language. The underlying issue here is a less

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enthusiastic move towards independence. Consequently I think

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Johann Lamont is seeking to pursue an issue. Ruth Davidson suggested

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