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Welcome back to the Scottish Parliament. It is my birthday, I am

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allowed a certain latitude. It is the first session of questions to

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the First Minister. Let us cross to the chamber.

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Happy birthday. Welcome to this first edition of question Time. Food

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banks, broadband and budgets among the subjects that have come up

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recently as MSPs question area and of ministers on a range of topics.

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Ahead of the main event of the week, First Minister's Questions. He has

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his briefing book with him. We know he will be asked about how the

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government is handling perpetrators of serious sexual offences and

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budgets. To ask the First Minister what engagements he has planned for

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the rest of the day. Engagements to take forward the government's

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programme for Scotland. The Scottish Government's White Paper compares

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Scotland was my growth rate to a selection of independent countries.

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If over the past 30 years it was proved that Scots would be better if

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we had much the growth of those nations, is that a compelling reason

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to vote yes? The reason to vote yes is to mobilise the natural and human

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bees Aussies of Scotland to create a prosperous and just society. That is

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the compelling reason to vote yes. It is not the compelling reason he

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had in his own paper, that is interesting. In the White Paper it

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says Scots would be better off if you take the period 1977-2007. We

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asked the financial scrutiny units to look at the last 30 years for

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which figures are available. The same comparison, examined over the

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last 30 years, shows that each and every Scot would be nearly ?2500

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worse off. What did make the First Minister and pick the 30 year period

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from 1970s Aven- 2007 -- 1977 - 2007? Let us take the most recent

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figures, figures which are part of the statistics generally accepted,

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and that shows that over the last five years Scotland would be ?12

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billion better off if we had managed our own resources than been part of

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the London government. ?12 billion is a great deal of money. That could

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have been used to invest in the Scottish economy to promote Scottish

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jobs, to borrow less, which would have been a good thing, to start the

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proceeds of an oil fund like our colleagues across in Norway. To

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believe that these resources would not have been used to the benefit of

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Scottish society is the most extraordinary belief and as that

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information comes forward in the referendum campaign, and people will

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see the opportunity to create a more just society for an independent

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Scotland. That is so much noise because he did not answer the

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question I asked. With respect, his White Paper chose those dates. You

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should explain why, given so much of his prospectus is based on an

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argument which bears no scrutiny. The First Minister is asking the

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people of Scotland to trust his White Paper. It has, however, only

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one page on Scotland's finances and projects for just one year. It looks

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back to a period which favours the First Minister'scase went over the

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last ten years, 20 years, 30 years, the overwhelming evidence is we

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would have been worse off. He says, in his own words, we would be ?900

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better off but over the last 30 years by his own rationale the truth

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is we would be ?2500 worse off, and that is where there are figures.

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Where are the price tag on renationalised in the Royal Mail, on

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childcare or high-speed rail proposals? No one is suggesting

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these are bad things, even in the real world nobody is thinking

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childcare and the relevant are bad things, we do think we need to know

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how they are going to be for them. Every family in the country

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understands that. Do not just tell us what you are going to propose,

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give us just one of those price tags and let us see if that is real. No

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one would suggest that they were bad things. On the school meals bought

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earlier this week Labour would have voted against them anyway. Let us

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take any time period that she wants to take. 1980-2011, the UK has

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estimated a net fiscal deficit of 3.2% of GDP. Our students

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Scotland's resources, North Sea revenue, Scotland would run a

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surplus over that period of 0.2% of GDP. That is the year since 1980.

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The last five years I have already Gavin Joanne Lamont. It was ?4.4

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billion or ?824 per head, that is the amount would be better off if

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Scotland had been running its own resources. She says that she does

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not think that the White Paper is ambitious enough especially on

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things like childcare. It is ambitious because it wants to

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transform childcare in this country. That would cost in the

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Parliamentary term and hundred million pounds. White Paper argues

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that would, though it's because of the revenues that would grow,

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increasing the workforce by 6%. If we stay within the UK we will never

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be able to afford that because the money will go to George Osborne and

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he is not thinking of giving extra money to Scotland, like Margaret

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Thatcher before him he is working out how to take money away from

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Scotland. As long as nobody finds out. If we are to going look at the

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vote this week we presume that the SNP government did not want to see

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transformational support for childcare because they voted it

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down. Whatever figures see Quartz, he is now no longer defending his

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own approach which justified supporting independence in his own

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paper. I did not say that the paper was not ambitious enough, I said it

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does not match its claims with any figures to make it credible. He did

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not answer the question on prices. What the government cannot price the

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parliament can. 1.16 million pounds for the Royal Mail, ?1.2 billion for

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childcare and no explanation for how they will be paid for. The rail

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link, that cannot be priced. For those of us living in the real

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world, a shopping list without a price list is just a wish list. By

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the First Minister'sone figures, we would have even less money to spend

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on these things. The First Minister has asked for us to publish an

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alternative to his White Paper. Is it not the case that the real

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alternative is called the truth? Order. Let us try again. It outlines

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a transformation in childcare, 1100 hrs for three-year-olds and

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four-year-olds which will increase participation females in the

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workforce by 6%. We point out that that will release to the Scottish

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exchequer ?700 million because as people come back into the workforce

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they pay income tax and national insurance and VAT and that will

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accrue to the Scottish exchequer. At the moment it goes to London, which

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is why the fixed budget is difficult to afford these things. She should

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know that because she put forward an amendment which could not be

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afforded earlier this week. She put forward an amendment costing ?100

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million when there was not ?100 million available in either year for

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it. In order to try to finance it she said she would not go ahead with

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free school meals. She would deprive the people of Scotland of free

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school meals in primary one, two and three. I have not even mentioned the

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cuts in business rates but they were overtaken by a denial. That was a

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fundamental mistake by the Labour Party which will cost them dear. I

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accept when I look at the blank CDs of the Labour backbenches, how

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worried they were about the votes on Tuesday, let us have an impartial

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commentary. Scottish Labour leader still opposed the move on school

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meals. Labour find themselves opposing a move welcomed by just

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about anyone with anything to say about education and the eradication

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of poverty. They are at loggerheads with charities, the teaching union,

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Unison, not to mention the Child poverty action group. That is from

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the Daily Record yesterday. That sums up her something for nothing

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position. To ask the First Minister when he will next meet the Prime

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Minister. In Scotland, by the sound of it -- not in Scotland. He is too

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unpopular. I thought his performance yesterday showed a humour and

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self-deprecation that is wholly foreign to the First Minister.

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Perhaps he could take note. This week we learned that the head of

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historic Scotland left purple after 30 months with a ?300,000 payoff.

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This is a huge amount of public money and it comes straight from the

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Scottish Government's offers so can the First Minister tell me which of

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his ministers were such payment? The agreements in terms of compromise

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agreements are settled in the normal way by the civil service, they are

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not a matter of political discretion, they are a matter of the

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management of the civil servants. As with any other responsible

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organisation. I am certain she is not going to seriously argue that

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ministers should interfere in a political sense. I take it that he

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says that no Minister did sign of this deal nor should have, but why?

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The rules on this are clear. As published by the Scottish Government

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itself, the state, ministerial clearance must be obtained in

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relation to any high-profile cases. By any definition, a quango chiefs

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being given a ?300,000 payoff after just 2.5 years in the job is a very

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high-profile case and it is one of the long list of payoffs which has

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cost this country ?56 million in the last two years. The Scottish

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taxpayer is footing the bill for these extravagant golden goodbyes

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and they are entitled to some straight answers, so why? Why would

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be is not approved by government ministers? Who don't approve it? --

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who did approve it. Should someone who is leaving a job after 30 months

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be walking away with ?300,000? The settlement agreed by the civil

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service, the only justification would be if there was something

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seriously wrong with the process which had arrived at that.

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Ministerial intervention would be if there was impartiality. I take one

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point which may be illustrated the dangers of raising staff matters and

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personnel matters in this forum. There is a danger. She gave the

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impression the individual concerned had been in post for a short period

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of time and ignored the fact that she had been at work for a

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generation within the civil servants. You do not just look at

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the latest posting. That is why these decisions and agreements and

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compromise agreements are best done internally and whether it is

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ministerial intervention or from the opposition, that is not the way that

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such things should be conducted. The First Minister will be aware of the

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news that the ministry has been unable to find a buyer. As a result

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115 jobs are under threat including more than two dozen in my

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constituency. I would be grateful to the enterprise Minister for

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co-operation, but can I ask him to confirm that every effort will be

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made to give the staff affected the support they need and well he agreed

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to facilitate any reasonable bid today con some or all of the vital

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manufacturing roles currently based in Kirkwall. He is the answer is yes

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to both questions. Every effort will continue to be mobilised to get a

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more satisfactory outcome. Any concerns or ideas that he wishes to

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make, our door will be opened to these suggestions. The answer is yes

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to both part of his question. In the Herald today, we read the case of a

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consultant scientist at St John's Hospital. Doctor Hamilton talked

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about an attempt by her employers to gag her about the care provided to

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women in the unit in which she works. Doctor Hamilton has written

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an several occasions to the Secretary for health to examine her

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case, but this has been declined. Will he step in this case and

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condemn the use of gagging clauses for NHS staff reading concerns about

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patient care and safety? There already has been, this is the heart

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of the issue for people, and independent investigation into that

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unit. That was taken forward by the consultant psychiatrist at

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Nottinghamshire health trust. It was reported in 2012. I will not outline

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the full range of the findings, but I will say it was an extremely

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satisfactory report on that investigation. So there was an

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investigation that took place with a consultant physician of high

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standing, outwith the Scottish national health service. There was

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no evidence to support the allegations that the mother and baby

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unit were dangerous or unsafe. There has been an independent

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investigation. In terms of gagging orders, it should be understood, the

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Health Secretary has been explicit and wrote to health boards in

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September last year that confidentiality clauses are not to

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be used to suppress concerns about practising NHS in Scotland. It is

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important, I cannot comment on this individual agreement, but the

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explicitly referred to the protected issues. He is shaking his head.

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Unless he has seen that agreement, he should not dispute this. NHS

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Lothian has said protected issues as -- are explicitly referred to in any

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agreement. If that is the case, and that is within a compromise

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agreement, I am sure he will be satisfied. I will ask the Health

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Secretary to look, if he can, these issues are matter between the

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individual and the health board, to make sure there is such an explicit

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reference to what is protected by law in terms of what people can say.

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I hope he will be satisfied. I do not think he should dispute that,

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unless he knows that such an explicit reference is not contained

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within the compromise agreement. I asked the Health Secretary to check

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that matter and I will come back to you on it. To ask the First Minister

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what the Scottish government is doing to deal with perpetrators of

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serious sexual offences. We brought in the sexual offences act of 2009

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to modernise the lover Scotland. We have strengthened the prevention

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order and the risk of harm regime. The current criminal Justice Bill

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will seek to remove the routine requirement for corroboration. This

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is a particular barrier for the prosecution of sexual crimes. The

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Crown office has developed a team of expert prosecutors who specialise in

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the investigation and prosecution of serious sexual crimes in Scotland.

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Police Scotland has improved their investigation rate in other sexual

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crimes. They have an external advisory group which is designed to

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improve the investigation rate. When she considers that range of

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initiatives, she can see that this government has treated this hugely

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serious matter extremely seriously. I thank the First Minister for that

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response. Serious sexual offences are amongst the worst which can be

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committed with dramatic effects on the victim which can last a

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lifetime. He believes that the abolition of corroboration will

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help. Our host of expert opinion disagrees. What cannot be disputed

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is that abolition of corroboration will not help the conviction rate of

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local serious offences which do come to court as these cases have already

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met the corroboration threshold. I ask him to support the introduction

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of a pilot scheme for independent legal advice for rape victims, at

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the point that sensitive information is requested. I propose such a pilot

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based on the search carried out by rape crisis Scotland who found that

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the majority of victims... Can we get a question please? This means

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totally irrelevant information is used to discredit the victim and

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decrease the chances of a conviction. So whilst the debate on

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corroboration continues... Please ask a question. Will he introduce a

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similar pilot to help tackle conviction rates? I will ask the

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Justice Secretary to look seriously at that question. Can I say to

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Margaret Mitchell that she is wrong to suggest that the argument for

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corroboration changes based on an increasing conviction rate. She must

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know, the argument is that many cases do not get to court because of

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the need for corroboration. An exam would be a claim just before

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Christmas demanding to know why a serious offences prosecuted in

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Scotland. The Crown office had made it clear that the general rule of

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corroboration made an insufficient basis on which to pursue a

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prosecution. So if you want to be taken seriously on these matters,

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you cannot have a situation where cases cannot come to court because

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of corroboration and then say something has to be done about

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making sure there is justice for rape victims in Scotland. You have

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to square the two things. To ask the First Minister what assessment the

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Scottish Government has made of the potential impact on the Scottish

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economy of a reported additional ?25 billion reduction in spending

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planned by the UK Government. We will be making a very serious

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examination of this latest threat from George Osborne. The Tory party

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don't have any idea about it because their spokesman on TV last night

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could give no idea about what would happen of further ?25 billion cuts

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in spending. We will do a series examination of that. This

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government's vision is founded on a nation with the principles of

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transparency and fairness. One suggested attack by the

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Conservatives is an attack on young people to throw out housing benefit

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on under 25. What assessment can the Scottish Government make of the

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potential impact that this Tory plan could have on young Scots? This

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includes the young people in Glasgow I represent and 33,000 across the

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rest of Scotland who rely on housing benefit. Will he make urgent

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representation to the UK Government which will lead to other poverty and

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fuel family tensions and exacerbate homelessness? Verdict the concerned

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about this latest threat to the welfare system. -- we are deeply

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concerned. Let us remember that the rationale for the bedroom tax and

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the attack on housing benefit has been a runaway cost of honey we --

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of housing benefit in the south-east of England. It was not the position

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of housing benefit in Scotland which led to this assault. We will

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continue to support the people in Scotland who suffer from these

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cuts. I hope that all people in this chamber, if indeed this threat to

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housing benefit comes to pass, I hope people do not believe that

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--... Did the First Minister see the article by Thai fish caught in the

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Scotsman today which said that George Osborne's ?25 billion mistake

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will seal the fate of the Conservative party and he's in the

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election of the Labour Government? -- Parish Scott. Given that his

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whole referendum strategy is based on having a Tory government in

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London, how skew the Scottish people when they are faced with that was

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bit of a Labour government which will feed energy prices, breast

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unemployment -- boost employment, provided resources for a massive

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expansion of childcare? Malcolm and I have been around politics for a

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long time. I remember his resignation from a Labour government

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when he was a minister because they were attacking benefits to single

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parents. I think he lasted a year before he realised his dreams had

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been treated and he had to resign. The Liberals fate is already sealed.

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Kadish got forecasts of the ceiling should be taken seriously because he

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is speaking from personal experience. Ed Balls's reaction to

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the 25 billion cuts demonstrates the Labour fate. Perhaps that some point

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he will tell Malcolm Chisholm what these cuts are going to be and then

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Malcolm will have two resign again. To ask the First Minister whether

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the Scottish Government considers that schools, pupils and teachers

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are adequately prepared for the new National four and five

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qualifications. Yes, the Scottish qualities and authority have visited

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levels for support for the new qualifications. That includes more

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than 5 million of additional funding, extra service days, course

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materials for National 4 and 5 qualifications and specific events

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for thousands more teachers. We all stand ready to provide more help is

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needed to ensure that the new qualifications are delivered

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successively. The Scottish seat -- teachers Association told this panel

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that they lacked confidence in the new qualifications, assessment and

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land are impossible to meet and then as a continuing lack of support

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materials. He said it would be wrong to dismiss complaints as ritualistic

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morning. But the sake of our young people and the radical reform of our

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curriculum, will the First Minister recognise these concerns and take

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action? Nobody has dismissed any concerns. I heard the ministers say

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the opposite which is why this level of support has been put in place.

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Ken Cunningham has said that the preparation and consultation has

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been more than he could ever remember well stop that is a quote

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from the 3rd of January this year. I am interested in the position of

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power quoting teachers unions. If only they had listened to the

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teacher unions and decided to support free school meals for

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primaries 123. -- primaries 1-3. The Scottish teachers Association also

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said, for the future of radical curriculum reform and the future of

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young people, please listen to us and let us work together to fix the

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problem. Will the First Minister listen to teachers and help fix the

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problem and give it was in Scotland the chance they deserve to get

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qualifications and educational training and into employment? We

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will continue to listen to teachers to ensure they get for their help is

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needed and any issues addressed will stop that was the Education Minister

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speaking this week on the radio, I think that answers the question. To

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ask the First Minister what plans the Scottish Government has to

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increase childcare provision. As I announced on Tuesday, we will

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increase the number of two-year-olds and start to expand childcare among

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two-year-olds up to 15% of the total and then to 27% of two-year-olds in

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August 2015. That is about 15,000 children. That is an ambitious plan

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and goes beyond the claim from this Labour front bench of 10,000

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children. 10,000 children. We are expanding to 15,000 children in the

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measures announced on Tuesday. I am sure that right round the chamber,

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they will give that a warm welcome. I thank him for his answer, but does

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he agree that when Save the Children, the EIS, shelter and the

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Church of Scotland and the Child poverty action group all say that

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free school meals are key measure in tackling child poverty that

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politicians of all parties should listen? I'll ready quoted the daily

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record. They are right. The Labour Party should accept that as a broad

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coalition of people interested in the welfare of children in Scotland

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who support the free school meals. They will have two totally reversed

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their position sooner rather than later. If they do not, the damage

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done to the Labour Party at grassroots level in Scotland, will

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perhaps all may be compared with their reliance on the Tory party in

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the referendum campaign. In the ridiculous position of Johann

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Lamont, reverse what you did, apologise for Tuesday and get behind

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the coalition for backing the children of Scotland. That ends the

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First Minister's questions. We have come to the close of questions.

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Right at the end there, Alex Salmond turned it back on Johann Lamont.

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It's time for me to say goodbye. Let us handover to Mike Collard on the

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daily politics in London. -- daily politics.

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Christian clergyman, I feel that the gospel calls us to preach in a way

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that is particularly good news to the poor. This government has not

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necessarily been good news to the poor, and that is something we can

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debate, but it is not a party political issue. I am happy to

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criticise any government that is not good news to the poor. It is not a

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party political thing. The idea that the Church should stay out of

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politics is one of those cliches. Tell that to Desmond Tutu. It is

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absurd. It is a diminished sense of what constitutes politics if you

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think that. Let me

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