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Politics is dominated at the moment by the European Union referendum and | :00:20. | :00:59. | |
the idea that the offer to extend registration to vote until midnight | :01:00. | :01:02. | |
tonight, but domestic politics remains important as well and I | :01:03. | :01:04. | |
guess it will be domestic politics to the fore in questions to the | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
First Minister. This is the second in a new, longer format First | :01:08. | :01:09. | |
Minister's Questions, asked for by the presiding officer, Ken | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
Macintosh. Domestic questions are expected to dominate. The chamber is | :01:13. | :01:14. | |
looking at a general questions. The presiding officer is moving on to | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
Prime Minister's Questions. Engagement to take forward the | :01:19. | :01:20. | |
programme for Scotland. We note the problem is that the NHS is facing. | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
Anti-ageing population, a Scottish Government that has failed to keep | :01:25. | :01:28. | |
up with the need to recruit and retain the staff are required. We | :01:29. | :01:31. | |
discovered this week that ?157 million of the NHS budget is being | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
spent on bringing in agency nurses because of staff shortages. We note | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
that is a problem with nurse recruitment. Can the First Minister | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
tell me how many vacant consultant positions have been lying unfilled | :01:45. | :01:51. | |
for more than six months? In terms of NHS vacancies, the position now | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
in terms of NHS vacancies is, in some cases, better than when we took | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
office, in some cases almost the same. What people across Scotland | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
will be interested in is the fact that today we have record high | :02:05. | :02:10. | |
staffing in the NHS. Today, compared to win the edge the SNP took office, | :02:11. | :02:17. | |
there are almost 11,400 additional staff working in our NHS. Qualified | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
nurses and midwives are up by nearly 6%, doctors are up by over 26% and | :02:24. | :02:29. | |
medical and dental consultants are now at a record high, up by 42.9%. | :02:30. | :02:37. | |
That is the reality of the workforce in our NHS. All of these doctors and | :02:38. | :02:43. | |
nurses are working hard to make sure that patients are seen quickly and | :02:44. | :02:50. | |
they get world-class treatment when they do so and offers them an | :02:51. | :02:57. | |
enormous debt of gratitude for that. The First Minister keen to give out | :02:58. | :03:00. | |
every single number except the one I asked for. The answer is that there | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
are 162 unfilled consultant posts. That is up 14% in three months and | :03:06. | :03:12. | |
up by more than 300% since 2011. The fact is this, Doctor Nicky Thompson | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
of the Scottish consultants committee says, the Scottish | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
Government must recognise that they have major recruitment and retention | :03:21. | :03:25. | |
problems and take action. Does the First Minister recognise that, in | :03:26. | :03:31. | |
the wake Nicky Thomson wanted to and she prioritised that action without | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
delay? We are prioritising action to recruit and retain staff in our NHS. | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
Ruth Davidson speaks specifically about the consultant vacancy rate. | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
The consultant vacancy rate in our NHS today is lower than it was when | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
this government took office. It was 7% when we took office, it is now | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
6.5%. That is a percentage of the total number of consultants working | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
in our NHS that is much higher than it was when we took office. However | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
you cut it, however you look at the statistics, there are more people, | :04:08. | :04:10. | |
including more doctors and nurses, working in the NHS today than it was | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
the case when the SNP took office. That is a record to be proud of, but | :04:17. | :04:22. | |
I note that we must continue to improve our NHS so it continues to | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
provide good quality care for people across Scotland. That is why we set | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
out at the election, in a manifesto we were a latching on, plans to | :04:31. | :04:37. | |
invest more than any other party proposed, but the nature of the | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
reform our NHS to ensure it continues to do the fantastic job it | :04:41. | :04:49. | |
already does. At the facts on the ground. I have feared the latest | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
report into the ongoing problems at Saint John 's paediatric unit in | :04:55. | :04:57. | |
Livingston. They'd be quite what it says. There is a continuing heavy | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
reliance on a small number of staff doing additional night and weekend | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
shifts and prone to sure this collapse because of sickness or | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
other unplanned absence. It adds that only four of the nine eight | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
hour slots are filled on a substantive basis. It continues, the | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
middle grade medical rota remains unstable treaty vacancies and | :05:19. | :05:22. | |
advanced nurse practitioner 's paediatric nurse practitioners are | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
required to fill the gaps. In other words, backfilling for doctors | :05:29. | :05:31. | |
because they cannot get the staff. This might be an exceptional case | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
but it is utterly unacceptable. Doctors say we need action and isn't | :05:36. | :05:40. | |
this, right here, the consequence of inaction from this government? In | :05:41. | :05:47. | |
terms of paediatrics at St John's. Yes, there are challenges. That | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
doesn't come as news to anyone. It is those challenges that prompted | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
the expert report on the future of the paediatric unit and that report | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
is currently being considered by NHS Lothian and I know they will be | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
supported by the Scottish Government and will take forward an actions | :06:08. | :06:14. | |
needed. I should point out the fact that under the SNP, the situation at | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
St John's in general terms is a lot more positive and the hospital is in | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
a stronger position than it was when this government took office because | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
we provided funding for an MRI scanner, funding for a short stay | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
collective surgery unit, we've redesigned A, we refurbished the | :06:32. | :06:38. | |
Labour ward. There has been a new lab in medicine training school | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
opened, a new regional eating disorders unit opened. These are a | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
range of improvements made and be are to sure we do the same in | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
paediatrics as well. I will never stand here, I am a former Health | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
Secretary, I will never stand here and say there are no challenges to | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
be overcome in our national health service. Scotland is not unique in | :07:00. | :07:05. | |
that sense, but we have more staff, we are investing record sums, that | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
is why there are waiting times that, in many cases, are not just lower | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
than when we took office, they are considerably lower than they are in | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
other parts of the UK. When you look at the situation in England where | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
the Tories are in government, I know they don't like this, but compare | :07:22. | :07:28. | |
the fact that junior doctors have been on strike in England and not in | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
Scotland. Look at A is one example. Performance in our record | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
units is 10% better in Scotland than it is under the Tories in England. | :07:39. | :07:43. | |
We will keep working to improve our national health service, but we will | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
take no lectures from the Tories on how to do it. I note the First | :07:47. | :07:55. | |
Minister is off to London for a debate tonight but we are talking | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
about the Scottish NHS that her government has been in charge of. We | :07:59. | :08:07. | |
are right to point out that The Royal College is publishing a | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
report. What she didn't mention is that the SNP tried to put it back | :08:13. | :08:15. | |
until after the election. She didn't mention that this was against the | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
wishes of health bosses in the area he feared that a delay in | :08:20. | :08:22. | |
publication would only add to uncertainty over the future of the | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
word. We need a serious and honest debate about a sustainable NHS in | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
Scotland. What we don't need is an SNP spin operation that buries bad | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
news because it is inconvenient. We have gaps in nursing, gaps in | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
consultants, gaps in GPs. After nine years, isn't it time the SNP | :08:44. | :08:49. | |
government sorted it out? I note the Conservatives have replaced Labour | :08:50. | :08:52. | |
in this chamber as the official opposition but I did not really | :08:53. | :08:55. | |
appreciate that that meant Ruth Davidson would stand up here and use | :08:56. | :09:02. | |
recycled scare stories about St John's. I thought she might be | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
aspiring to better than that, but clearly not. The fact of the matter | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
is decisions around the expert report, the timing of that and | :09:12. | :09:14. | |
taking forward the recommendations of that would be matters for NHS | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
Lothian and we will support them in doing that. Can I say, yes we are | :09:20. | :09:24. | |
talking about the Scottish NHS and I am talking about the improvements in | :09:25. | :09:27. | |
the Scottish NHS under this government. While I was doing was | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
comparing that to some of the respects in which the NHS where the | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
Tories are in charge has gone backwards instead of forwards. We | :09:38. | :09:40. | |
have had the sight of junior doctors out on strike because of the | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
intransigence of a Tory government. We will take action to improve our | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
health service. Yes, this government has been in office for nine years | :09:51. | :09:54. | |
and let me just remind people in this chamber what we have seen over | :09:55. | :09:59. | |
these nine years. Record high staffing, starting up by more than | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
11,000, nurse numbers up, doctors up, consultants up, paramedic | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
numbers. GPs are up. Senior managers, the number of them are | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
down because we have met our target to produce them. The NHS is in good | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
hands and we will keep it moving in the right direction. When will the | :10:21. | :10:29. | |
First Minister next meet carers Scotland. I hope I will have the | :10:30. | :10:36. | |
opportunity to meet them soon. The Minister for health will meet them | :10:37. | :10:39. | |
next week and as everyone in the chamber will be aware, this week is | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
carers week, therefore I want to take this opportunity on behalf of | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
others to thank carers and young carers for everything they do on our | :10:50. | :10:59. | |
behalf. Earlier this week, the First Minister was named as the 50th most | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
powerful woman in the world. Today, a report by UCAS confirmed that the | :11:06. | :11:08. | |
number of students from her background is going to university | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
has dropped. When will the First Minister use some of her immense | :11:13. | :11:15. | |
power to improve the life chances of Scottish young people? She clearly | :11:16. | :11:22. | |
pays more attention to these things than I do, but... Never mind, I am | :11:23. | :11:38. | |
sure she will get there eventually. On the important matter that she | :11:39. | :11:49. | |
rightly raises this morning, I, as people would expect, have studied | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
these figures in detail. We are ready to prioritise fair access to | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
university, but it is important and appropriate to look at the figures | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
in the round. They come with a health warning. They do not include | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
the number of students in Scotland who enter higher education through | :12:07. | :12:09. | |
college. They'd look at what they do show. Looking at 18-year-olds | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
exclusively, the numbers from our most deprived areas dropped slightly | :12:15. | :12:20. | |
from 2014 to 2015, but nevertheless are up considerably compared to | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
2010. The more fundamental point is this one, not everyone who goes to | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
university goes at it in. When you look at these figures and look at | :12:30. | :12:32. | |
the figures for people of all ages, the numbers from deprived areas is | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
applying to an thing accepted to university is up in 2015 compared to | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
2014. In both cases by about 10%. Yes, we have got work to do, I have | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
been clear about that. That is quite in lamenting the report is | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
important, but it is wrong to say the progress isn't being made. What | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
I heard there was three different excuses about why the numbers are | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
wrong, rather than an explanation about why the government haven't | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
done enough. What these figures show, very clearly show, is that | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
there has been a drop in the number of people from your background is | :13:15. | :13:17. | |
applying to university. There has been an even bigger job in the | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
number of poorer people being accepted when they do apply. This is | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
what happens when you cut grants and bursaries by a third. This is a | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
government that recently tried to scrap a scheme that secured | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
university places for the poorest students. Students are worried that | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
the First Minister will try that again. She says she wanted 20% of | :13:42. | :13:46. | |
university students to come from the poorest backgrounds by 2013. Given | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
that ambition, can she guarantee today that the government will fully | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
fund this scheme for the lifetime of this Parliament? I have made very | :13:55. | :14:00. | |
clear that we are determined to increase access and to do what is | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
required to do that. Can I say, and I hope we can find some agreement | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
here, I didn't say the figures were wrong. On the contrary, they said | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
they were right. I simply pointed out what the figures actually say. | :14:14. | :14:20. | |
What she says they say is right for 18-year-olds entering university in | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
this year. But 18-year-olds from the most deprived amenities entering | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
university has gone up from 2010 to 2015 and in terms of people of all | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
ages going to university, whether it is applying to university or | :14:35. | :14:37. | |
entering university, the numbers from our most deprived areas have | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
gone up in 2015. Both of them by 10%. I am not saying the figures are | :14:44. | :14:49. | |
wrong, I am simply setting out what the figures actually say. I think | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
that is the appropriate thing to do. I have made clear that while we are | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
making progress, I do not think that progress is going far enough or | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
going fast enough. That is what I commissioned the widening access | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
report. That is why I have committed to intimidate its recommendations | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
and will appoint a commission. If the Commissioner tells us that | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
universities are not doing enough, we will use the statutory powers we | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
legislated for that Labour voted against the nature of that | :15:18. | :15:20. | |
universities do more. We are determined to do this, we are | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
committed to doing this and I would hope Labour would get behind us. | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
Earlier this week, when the First Minister missed her health targets, | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
she moved the goalposts. Today she is trying to do it again when it | :15:36. | :15:43. | |
comes to the Ucas figures. This is a reference to a consultation on | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
potential changes on the way health targets are collected. Let's look at | :15:50. | :15:55. | |
the overall picture. Poorer people are less likely to apply to the | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
university under this government and are less likely to be accepted and | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
are more likely to drop out because of the cuts you have made two | :16:05. | :16:10. | |
bursaries and grants. Labour's manifesto pledged to reverse the | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
cuts to bursaries. Surely the First Minister will pledge to do just | :16:16. | :16:22. | |
that. When we last made changes to the bursary threshold, it was the | :16:23. | :16:26. | |
NUS president who I accept would like others to do more and was a | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
member of the widening access commission described it as great | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
news for Scottish students. One of the other things in our manifesto | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
was a review of student support which we will take forward in the | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
course of this Parliament. I say again to Kezia Dugdale, I know she | :16:44. | :16:48. | |
is genuinely interested in this, the statistics that I have been reading | :16:49. | :16:58. | |
out. She is wrong to say what she has said. I haven't changed a single | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
goal post. I am saying what the figures actually show. She is right | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
in saying that in terms of 18-year-olds, there has been a | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
slight decline but since 2010 it is up. She doesn't seem to grasp the | :17:12. | :17:17. | |
point that looking at people of all ages, applications or entry to | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
universities, the numbers from our most deprived communities are up. Up | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
10% for applications and entries. That is simply a fact than it is in | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
these figures. Instead of arguing over the fact because you can't | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
argue, they are what they are, let's get behind the action that this | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
government has decided to take and I look forward to Labour having the | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
gumption to get behind us and make sure we can achieve what we have set | :17:45. | :17:56. | |
out to achieve. APPLAUSE STUDIO: The Scottish Greenlee leader | :17:57. | :18:07. | |
Patrick Harvie. Recent days have seen revelations about the extent of | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
deeply unethical business practices in this country from exploitative | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
zero hours contracts, payments below the minimum wage, brutal | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
disciplinary procedures and the harassment of workers. Major players | :18:23. | :18:30. | |
on the high Street have been playing fast and loose with their employees | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
and throwing them on the scrapheap at a whim when lining their own | :18:36. | :18:41. | |
pockets. The Scottish Government should be able to make more | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
decisions about employment but does she agree that we need to Bush at | :18:47. | :18:54. | |
the edge of our powers to ensure that unethical business practices | :18:55. | :19:03. | |
are pushed out of our economy. Yes I do. I heard evidence from Mike | :19:04. | :19:10. | |
Ashley on practices at sports direct and it was utterly shameful and | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
every right thinking person should condemn that unequivocally. As a | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
government, as Patrick Harvie knows, have established the business pledge | :19:21. | :19:26. | |
which is intended to promote good business practices. We are | :19:27. | :19:29. | |
absolutely clear about zero tolerance for unethical business | :19:30. | :19:35. | |
practices, of the kind we heard this week or zero hours contracts, | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
companies not paying the minimum wage, we want companies to go beyond | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
the minimum wage and paid the living wage. We have had discussions before | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
about whether there should be more compulsion around the business | :19:50. | :19:51. | |
pledge and it is something we will continue to consider. I'm not able | :19:52. | :19:57. | |
to go into this in great detail but I will be in London tonight taking | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
part in the debate on the EU referendum and I don't want to move | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
to the position where we have a deregulated labour market with | :20:07. | :20:09. | |
people like Boris Johnson able to rip of the workers' rights that the | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
EU guarantees in this country. STUDIO: Wray another reference to | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
the studio debate tonight with Forest option. Promoting the | :20:19. | :20:30. | |
firework agenda and the business pledge. She is willing to consider | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
compulsion. Isn't it abundantly clear given the scale of the abuses | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
taking place on a daily basis that we need to do more than encourage | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
the willing, we have to make it abundantly clear to the unwilling | :20:44. | :20:46. | |
that these deplorable practices will not be accepted. Will the First | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
Minister insure that the firework agenda can give real consequences to | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
those employers who exploit their workers, use tax havens or have poor | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
environmental performance will no longer have access to government | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
funded taxpayer support, grants, loans and business support services | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
from the public sector. I'm determined and committed to making | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
sure that the firework agenda has the ability to do what we wanted to | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
do. I'm broadly in agreement with what he is saying but some of what | :21:20. | :21:30. | |
we heard from Sports cap! Direct was illegal as well as unethical. That | :21:31. | :21:36. | |
is something that we should make sure is tackled through the law of | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
the land. When companies break the law in treating their staff they | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
should be held to account not just in how we distribute government | :21:46. | :21:47. | |
money but through the law of the land and I hope all others in this | :21:48. | :21:50. | |
chamber would agree with that. STUDIO: A reference to the owners of | :21:51. | :22:03. | |
sports direct. To ask what is the government's reaction to the | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
Scottish Cancer patient experience survey results. We were very pleased | :22:09. | :22:15. | |
with the results but we know there is more to be done which is why we | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
have announced a cancer strategy supported by ?100 million over the | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
life of this Parliament. It makes clear the importance of listening to | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
what people with cancer are saying and acting on what they say is. Does | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
the First Minister agree with is that whilst our Scottish NHS is | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
achieving world-class outcomes, we can't afford to be complacent and | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
can she outline how the strategy will deliver the best Cancer care | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
for the people of Scotland in future? Cancer services have come an | :22:48. | :22:54. | |
awful long way in the last decade. Mortality rates are down 11% over | :22:55. | :23:08. | |
this period but the ?100 million cancer strategy will be in demented | :23:09. | :23:15. | |
with people with cancer, clinicians and other parties and it will be | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
invested to make sure we are doing more to support invention of cancer, | :23:21. | :23:26. | |
doing more to support early diagnosis of cancer and through | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
taking advantage of advances in radiotherapy, for example, making | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
sure that people have access to the best possible treatment. But also | :23:35. | :23:37. | |
the emotional and financial needs of people with cancer and the needs of | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
their family, those are taken into account with a sticky as well. That | :23:43. | :23:48. | |
is what I am determined we do so we continue to provide world class | :23:49. | :23:57. | |
cancer treatment for people. STUDIO: A Labour MSP. Despite asking for it, | :23:58. | :24:10. | |
49% of patients are not receiving ad vice on benefits available. 66% of | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
patients are not receiving a cure plan. One in five patients saying | :24:16. | :24:22. | |
that they didn't get an appointment soon enough after the suspicion | :24:23. | :24:28. | |
arose. Given these statistics, given the ongoing challenge of cancer | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
being the biggest killer in Scotland, can the First Minister | :24:33. | :24:35. | |
confirmed that the current expectations will not be included in | :24:36. | :24:43. | |
her target review? The Health Secretary set out the purpose of the | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
review and how that will be taken forward. It is a review backed by | :24:48. | :24:55. | |
clinicians and others. There are targets in the NHS that are vitally | :24:56. | :24:59. | |
important to people to give them the assurance and certainty of when they | :25:00. | :25:02. | |
will be treated and there is no intention to undermine that. He's | :25:03. | :25:10. | |
right to focus on the aspects of the survey that were positive and those | :25:11. | :25:16. | |
that indicated there was more work to do. Many of these areas are | :25:17. | :25:22. | |
around not just the clinical aspects of cancer care but the emotional | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
aspects and these are some of the areas that we have most work to do. | :25:27. | :25:32. | |
I was Health Secretary launching the first Macmillan financial advice | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
service. These do fantastic work but findings say we have more to do so | :25:38. | :25:43. | |
we will focus on all of this. Early diagnosis, speedy access to | :25:44. | :25:45. | |
treatment and also the way that patients in the survey say what they | :25:46. | :25:53. | |
want and need. STUDIO: Murdo Fraser, Scottish Conservative MSP. What | :25:54. | :26:05. | |
support will the government give the Scottish oil and gas industry? The | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
recent report highlights the challenges. We visited Aberdeen last | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
week and reiterated our commitment to securing a long-term future for | :26:17. | :26:25. | |
the sector. For example through the training fund, the energy jobs task | :26:26. | :26:30. | |
force. The UK Government retains control of the key taxation levers | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
and a clear conclusion of the report is that more action must be taken on | :26:35. | :26:39. | |
that front with more than half of all companies wanting to see wide | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
fiscal stimulus for the industry. We will continue to support exploration | :26:44. | :26:53. | |
and guarantee infrastructure. There is a briefing in committee room to | :26:54. | :27:00. | |
after. One thing that the report tells us is that a majority of large | :27:01. | :27:06. | |
companies see the opportunity to diversify into shale gas but sadly | :27:07. | :27:14. | |
most of these job opportunities will be created outside of Scotland | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
because of the moratorium on fracking. The science says and she | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
should know because her government commission the survey, it concludes | :27:25. | :27:32. | |
that the technology exists to allow the safe extraction of such reserves | :27:33. | :27:39. | |
subjecting robust regulation being put in place. Why is the First | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
Minister not listening to our government's own scientists on this. | :27:45. | :27:55. | |
The moratorium of fracking has been introduced so we can study all the | :27:56. | :28:01. | |
different aspects of this. It is guided by and based on evidence but | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
also takes into account the opinion of the public. Those who would have | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
to live in areas affected by technology like this. That is the | :28:12. | :28:15. | |
right thing to do. Murdo Fraser didn't quote the report when it | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
comes to diversity patient fully. The companies that talked about the | :28:20. | :28:22. | |
opportunities of diversification also took about the opportunities of | :28:23. | :28:29. | |
diversification into renewables. I wonder why a Tory member of the | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
Scottish Parliament didn't want to mention renewables. Against all of | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
the witches of people the length and breadth of the country, against some | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
of the investment decisions, the Tory UK Government is currently | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
destroying our renewables potential because of its wrong-headed | :28:47. | :28:48. | |
decisions. Perhaps he would be better advised to get onto his | :28:49. | :28:52. | |
colleagues in the UK Government and ask for support for renewables | :28:53. | :28:55. | |
before coming to this chamber to talk about fracking. On 21st of | :28:56. | :29:06. | |
January the 1st Minister was asked when she would provide an updated | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
oil and gas to analytical bulletin. I am giving her a second | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
opportunity. Given the severe challenges facing the oil and gas | :29:17. | :29:21. | |
industry outlined starkly by the Aberdeen and Grampian Chamber of | :29:22. | :29:26. | |
Commerce survey in May, will she now publish a revised oil and gas | :29:27. | :29:32. | |
bulletin and when will we see it? It will be published in June, sand I | :29:33. | :29:35. | |
will make sure she is one of the first to know when it is due. -- it | :29:36. | :29:43. | |
will be published in due course. We publish these publications routinely | :29:44. | :29:49. | |
but we don't need advice to tellers about the challenges faced in the | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
sector right now. We know that from our engagements with the industry | :29:54. | :29:58. | |
and report such of the ones we have received recently. In the meantime, | :29:59. | :30:03. | |
we will get on with the job of supporting the industry. Practical | :30:04. | :30:05. | |
support on the ground and calling on the UK Government to do the right | :30:06. | :30:07. | |
thing as well. When she meets Amber Rudd, would she | :30:08. | :30:24. | |
undertake to make a point about the tax relief being used to make sure | :30:25. | :30:27. | |
the jobs in this industry are here in Scotland, rather than taken | :30:28. | :30:31. | |
overseas to ignore away or other EU countries? I can give the commitment | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
that we will make that case. I will try to do it tonight but bewildered | :30:37. | :30:41. | |
on an ongoing basis. There is an important point here. We don't want | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
to see premature decommissioning, but decommissioning is a massive | :30:47. | :30:50. | |
economic opportunity for us and we want the nature of the benefit of | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
that opportunity is enjoyed here in Scotland and not elsewhere and part | :30:55. | :30:59. | |
of what we need to do is what he says, to make sure the tax | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
environment is the right one and we will argue that case very strongly. | :31:04. | :31:12. | |
What is the Scottish Government doing to reverse the reported fall | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
in women studying science and competing at higher levels? | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
Interestingly, the reported fall he says, it is not an actual file in | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
most cases. The figures that were released to the media over the | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
weekend are simply wrong. Every subject he named, with the exception | :31:32. | :31:35. | |
of competing, has seen rises in the number of girls, not false. Physics, | :31:36. | :31:42. | |
chemistry, biology, human biology, the. Including computed, the total | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
number of entries is up 10%. How come they are so wrong? Let me tell | :31:47. | :31:51. | |
you, Iain Gray arrived at his figures by counting only... He | :31:52. | :31:58. | |
excluded both the beef eyes and the... Did he do this deliberately | :31:59. | :32:05. | |
or whether the Labour education spokesman did not know that hires | :32:06. | :32:09. | |
were being reformed? I am not sure which is worse. In contrast, the | :32:10. | :32:14. | |
Scottish Government will encourage people into these subjects because | :32:15. | :32:19. | |
they are vital to these -- to Scottish future. Perhaps the First | :32:20. | :32:26. | |
Minister and I can argue about the numbers and other time. | :32:27. | :32:37. | |
I think we agree that we do need women to choose science and, | :32:38. | :32:46. | |
actually, I wanted to use this opportunity to congratulate her on | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
the appointment of Professor Sheila Rowan as Chief scientific adviser. | :32:52. | :32:53. | |
That is a great appointment, but it is also a fantastic role model to | :32:54. | :32:59. | |
encourage more girls and young women into science and she is a physicist, | :33:00. | :33:05. | |
which is good in my view. When Anne Glover was appointed as the first | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
chief scientist in Scotland, she had direct, open for access to the First | :33:11. | :33:14. | |
Minister. That has not been the case in recent years. It would be another | :33:15. | :33:20. | |
welcome and powerful signal if the First Minister or to re-establish | :33:21. | :33:25. | |
that, when she considered doing so? I will consider everything that will | :33:26. | :33:29. | |
help us in this regard. Can I thank him about his comments. We cannot | :33:30. | :33:38. | |
gloss over this, it goes back to the exchange with myself and Coetzee | :33:39. | :33:41. | |
Guptill, I hope the SNP and Labour can be allies, but we have do have a | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
debate based on facts, not distortions. Let me underline what | :33:48. | :33:54. | |
Labour did. They compare 2007 and 2015. They took the 2007 baseline, | :33:55. | :34:00. | |
when hires were the only thing young people sat and used that as the | :34:01. | :34:06. | |
baseline. Then they went to 2015 and only counted the old hires, they did | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
not include the new and revised ones which are replacing the old ones. | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
They then went to the media on the basis of that information and said | :34:15. | :34:19. | |
there was a fault in the number of girls studying these science | :34:20. | :34:23. | |
subjects. It was flatly wrong, it was a distortion of reality and | :34:24. | :34:28. | |
frankly it was a disgrace. If we are going to move forward to build | :34:29. | :34:34. | |
consensus, to build alliances about improving education for young | :34:35. | :34:37. | |
people, if you want to be part of that then let's stop the distortion | :34:38. | :34:47. | |
and did on the basis of facts. First Minister, an all girls team from | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
Saint Anders -- Andrews School recently reached the final of an | :34:52. | :34:57. | |
engineering challenge which is run by the engineering development | :34:58. | :35:02. | |
trust. Does the First Minister agree that it would be worthwhile to | :35:03. | :35:06. | |
ensure the ongoing success of the Scottish Government strategies in | :35:07. | :35:10. | |
this field, worthwhile to consider such initiatives as this on the | :35:11. | :35:15. | |
local and national basis, targeted specifically at girls and young | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
women? Yes they do and can I take the opportunity to congratulate the | :35:22. | :35:28. | |
girls in her constituency for their success. I understand 18 from | :35:29. | :35:34. | |
another high school in my constituency was also successful. I | :35:35. | :35:38. | |
congratulate all the teams involved. And I also agree with her about the | :35:39. | :35:43. | |
work of the scheme. Initiatives like these have a role to play in | :35:44. | :35:47. | |
inspiring young people and helping them develop their skills and an | :35:48. | :35:53. | |
awareness of the world of work. They often help us tackle outdated | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
stereotypes about so-called boy's jobs and so-called girl's jobs. We | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
are pleased to support schemes of a similar nature and we will continue | :36:03. | :36:08. | |
to do so. Let me agree with and entertained by congratulating all | :36:09. | :36:12. | |
the teams who took part in the scheme and I should remember the | :36:13. | :36:23. | |
team from... Went with the new ferry crossing open? Yesterday the | :36:24. | :36:33. | |
crossing is expected to be open for traffic by mid May which is head of | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
the contractual completion date of June 20 17. I think the First | :36:38. | :36:43. | |
Minister for answer. Many people will find it hard to understand why | :36:44. | :36:49. | |
25 days lost to adverse weather can lead to a five-month delay in | :36:50. | :36:52. | |
opening the crossing. Indeed, it has been an open secret in my | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
constituency that a delay was inevitable. I learned in January | :36:57. | :37:02. | |
that the facility making contract -- concrete road tax did not have | :37:03. | :37:06. | |
capacity to meet target. Does the First Minister belief parliament and | :37:07. | :37:13. | |
my constituents believe that she first year of this delay after the | :37:14. | :37:16. | |
election and they knew nothing about the problem with the road tax? If | :37:17. | :37:22. | |
the member has any evidence to the contrary he should bring it forward, | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
because of the Cabinet Secretary said yesterday is absolutely what is | :37:28. | :37:32. | |
the case. Ministers were informed on the 26th of May that the F C BC were | :37:33. | :37:38. | |
looking at whether impacts. The revised programme was ratified. | :37:39. | :37:45. | |
Since then, ministers have been making sure that transport Scotland | :37:46. | :37:50. | |
were subjecting that programme to rigorous scrutiny. I personally met | :37:51. | :37:55. | |
with the contract on Tuesday of this week to satisfy myself that | :37:56. | :37:59. | |
everything possible was being done to accelerate progress and it was at | :38:00. | :38:02. | |
that meeting that we took the decision, rightly, that Parliament | :38:03. | :38:08. | |
should be informed at the earliest possible opportunity. That is the | :38:09. | :38:12. | |
fact of the matter and eligible members would accept that. In terms | :38:13. | :38:19. | |
of the other points he raises, in terms of the delay, that was set out | :38:20. | :38:26. | |
very by Keith Brown yesterday. The constructors now believe | :38:27. | :38:29. | |
installation will take an extra two or three months. That creates a | :38:30. | :38:33. | |
knock on effect for subsequent activities like road surfacing and | :38:34. | :38:37. | |
wind barriers which will now take place in the winter months because | :38:38. | :38:41. | |
of that delay. That is the reason for the timescale that has been set | :38:42. | :38:46. | |
out. My last point is this, the bridge will not be late. The | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
contractual completion date is June 20 17. The December target did which | :38:51. | :38:57. | |
was six months ahead of schedule will not be met but it will still | :38:58. | :39:01. | |
open ahead of schedule. This is one of the most wonderful and compacts | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
construction progress -- projects being undertaken in the world and we | :39:06. | :39:08. | |
should be proud of it and proud of the people building it. Given the | :39:09. | :39:18. | |
wildly optimistic and skills that have now proven to be wildly | :39:19. | :39:25. | |
optimistic and the previous attempts to project short timescales for the | :39:26. | :39:28. | |
repairs to the old Bridge, would it not be wise for the First Minister | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
to generate a little bit more wiggle room? I am not sure I understand | :39:33. | :39:40. | |
what the question was there. We are putting forward the estimated | :39:41. | :39:46. | |
completion date based on the rigorous assessment and modelling | :39:47. | :39:48. | |
that the contract has been paid to build the bridge have given us. Can | :39:49. | :39:55. | |
I say to Alec Johnson, I know I was praised earlier for being so | :39:56. | :39:59. | |
powerful in the global context, but I am not a bridge engineer. I don't | :40:00. | :40:05. | |
have expertise in building bridges other than the ones I build across | :40:06. | :40:18. | |
this chamber of the time. So I prefer to take my advice on at the | :40:19. | :40:23. | |
time skills and the details of the construction of this new bridge from | :40:24. | :40:26. | |
the experts we are paying to build it. That is the sensible thing to | :40:27. | :40:30. | |
do. It is also the thing that ensures we are doing what matters | :40:31. | :40:33. | |
more than anything else, protecting the safety of the brave people | :40:34. | :40:44. | |
building the bridge. The First Minister just mentioned timescales | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
from experts. We can all understand why the weather might delay a | :40:49. | :40:50. | |
complicated civil engineering projects such as this bridge. | :40:51. | :40:55. | |
However, any complicated project will have contingency built into the | :40:56. | :41:00. | |
timeline. At what point did the Scottish Government knew that the | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
contingency had been used up and wouldn't have been prudent to | :41:06. | :41:12. | |
continue to claim that the December date was realistic if they had | :41:13. | :41:14. | |
already known the contingency was used up? Let me try to put this | :41:15. | :41:21. | |
simply. If ministers had known what Keith Brown outlined yesterday | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
earlier than of course it would not have been prudent or appropriate for | :41:27. | :41:31. | |
us to say it will be open to traffic in December, but that is not the | :41:32. | :41:35. | |
case. What I have just set out which Keith Brown said yesterday is that | :41:36. | :41:39. | |
ministers became aware that contractors were looking at the | :41:40. | :41:43. | |
whether impacts on the 26th of May and they set out the timeline that | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
happened after that. The fact of the matter is that in a project as | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
complex as this, there are challenges to be overcome all the | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
time and the contractors have overcome those that have eaten into | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
the contingency time. Until May they were confident that notwithstanding | :42:01. | :42:03. | |
the worst than predicted whether they could still meet December, the | :42:04. | :42:08. | |
date that was six months ahead of the contractual completion date. | :42:09. | :42:12. | |
They then revised that because they realised that was not possible. They | :42:13. | :42:16. | |
have informed ministers in the appropriate weight and ministers | :42:17. | :42:20. | |
have informed Parliament in the appropriate way. Now, for goodness | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
sake, let's get on with backing the people building this bridge because | :42:25. | :42:27. | |
we are all looking forward to think open to traffic next year. What | :42:28. | :42:35. | |
action will be Scottish Government take to ensure that the Scottish | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
National Blood Transfusion Service is adequately funded? ?43 billion is | :42:40. | :42:46. | |
being invested in a purpose-built state of the National Centre that | :42:47. | :42:53. | |
will deliver a first-rate in the testing and development of human | :42:54. | :42:56. | |
blood cells. This will bring together several core activities of | :42:57. | :42:59. | |
the transfusion service into one purpose-built site. NHS National | :43:00. | :43:06. | |
services Scotland, the parent organisation, has been provided with | :43:07. | :43:09. | |
record levels of funding, including a baseline funding increase of ?10 | :43:10. | :43:15. | |
million in 2016-17, which is a real terms increase. Mark Turner, the | :43:16. | :43:21. | |
medical director, has warned that the Scottish Government funding cuts | :43:22. | :43:25. | |
are now so severe that over the course of the next Parliament, it | :43:26. | :43:31. | |
will face serious cuts to the service. Would the First Minister | :43:32. | :43:35. | |
believe that the funding reductions are going to help the aim of us | :43:36. | :43:39. | |
increasing the number of blood donors in Scotland and was she | :43:40. | :43:42. | |
agreed to reconsider the funding over the course of this Parliament? | :43:43. | :43:49. | |
We are pledging, over the life of this Parliament, above inflation | :43:50. | :43:52. | |
increases to the health service. I should point out that the Scottish | :43:53. | :43:55. | |
Government does not directly fund this. We fund the parent | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
organisation which is NHS national services Scotland. The funding for | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
NHS national services Scotland has increased by ?10 billion in this | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
financial year, which is a 2% real terms increase. I know the vital | :44:10. | :44:15. | |
importance of the work the Scottish National blood translation service | :44:16. | :44:18. | |
does. I used to say that with my own eyes as Health Secretary. It is an | :44:19. | :44:23. | |
important service, it is a highly valued service and we will continue | :44:24. | :44:27. | |
to do everything we can to support it. The last point I would make is | :44:28. | :44:31. | |
around the new centre. The new centre is about bringing all these | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
services together in one purpose-built site. As well as | :44:36. | :44:39. | |
improving the quality of the work it does over the years ahead it will | :44:40. | :44:43. | |
allow the service to provide its services in a more joined up and | :44:44. | :44:47. | |
effective and efficient way. That is why the capital investment is so | :44:48. | :44:48. | |
important. There we have it. The conclusion of | :44:49. | :44:59. | |
questions to the First Minister. The First Minister referred to purdah | :45:00. | :45:07. | |
which means when she is acting with the backing of civil service advice, | :45:08. | :45:15. | |
she shouldn't be intervening in the European referendum but she did | :45:16. | :45:23. | |
manage to get several references in. Let's speak about questions with | :45:24. | :45:27. | |
Robbie Dinwoodie and Kieran Andrews. Robbie, first of all, Ruth Davidson | :45:28. | :45:33. | |
going off on the issue of the NHS. They batted back and forth | :45:34. | :45:42. | |
statistics but where did it lead? If you're going to go after Nicola | :45:43. | :45:46. | |
Sturgeon with stats, you have to nail them down because she will | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
often have a rival reading of the same stats. Ruth focused on the 162 | :45:52. | :45:56. | |
consultant vacancies for more than six months but Nicola came back with | :45:57. | :46:04. | |
a barrage of areas where the NHS figures are different. Often using a | :46:05. | :46:07. | |
different starting point for the calculation. She painted a | :46:08. | :46:16. | |
resolutely upward picture. A much bigger, angrier series of exchanges | :46:17. | :46:25. | |
with Kezia Dugdale and Iain Gray on education stats. She was noticeably | :46:26. | :46:31. | |
aggressive. The more things change, the more they stay the same. The | :46:32. | :46:36. | |
chamber was noisy with a lot of heckling. Nicola Sturgeon said that | :46:37. | :46:40. | |
you couldn't argue about backs and yet that is just what they did. She | :46:41. | :46:45. | |
accused Iain Gray of being selective with his information. It was a | :46:46. | :46:50. | |
damning indictment but if she is corrected will cause big problems | :46:51. | :46:55. | |
for Labour. He didn't come back all that vigorously. He seemed unable to | :46:56. | :47:06. | |
talk about the figures. He seemed conciliatory. It looked like he had | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
been found out and he knew it. It is a problem for the Education | :47:11. | :47:15. | |
Secretary. She was described as the 50th most powerful woman in the | :47:16. | :47:19. | |
world. Second in Britain after Her Majesty The Queen. I thought that | :47:20. | :47:25. | |
the First Minister was a bit patronising. You paid more attention | :47:26. | :47:38. | |
to that than me, yeah, right! The problem of getting young people from | :47:39. | :47:48. | |
poorer backgrounds into higher education, desired Dale was laying | :47:49. | :47:53. | |
the blame at the feet of the SNP -- Kezia Dugdale. But Nicola Sturgeon | :47:54. | :48:01. | |
had her own facts to defend them. She admitted the key fact that at | :48:02. | :48:05. | |
the level of 18-year-olds the figure had declined in a year but if you | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
took the broader entry, the number had gone up. Inter -- interesting | :48:11. | :48:21. | |
exchange about unethical business practices. She was challenged by | :48:22. | :48:25. | |
Patrick Harvie to do more. Her powers are limited in that field. | :48:26. | :48:31. | |
Patrick Harvie admitted that in his question and said that they want | :48:32. | :48:38. | |
more powers over businesses to tackle these issues. Nicola Sturgeon | :48:39. | :48:42. | |
is quite right, some of what has happened at Sport can! | :48:43. | :48:59. | |
Not sure what she can do about those practices. There was a fascinating | :49:00. | :49:07. | |
is danger with Murdo Fraser talking about fracking. Nicola Sturgeon came | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
back and top dog the prospects of decommissioning from the North Sea. | :49:13. | :49:17. | |
That was raised before the election. At that point, Nicola Sturgeon said | :49:18. | :49:25. | |
that people were talking the industry down and now it is a boon | :49:26. | :49:32. | |
for the industry in north-east Scotland. Let's hope for the people | :49:33. | :49:41. | |
there that she sticks by her latest proclamation. It didn't sound like | :49:42. | :49:51. | |
there was much support for fracking. Murdo is persistent. He is Mr | :49:52. | :50:00. | |
fracking. In putting him down in the same way as she does with the | :50:01. | :50:05. | |
Conservatives, she points to what the Tories are doing over the | :50:06. | :50:09. | |
border. In this case, she turned the question around from fracking to say | :50:10. | :50:15. | |
that the other area to diversify into is renewables and the | :50:16. | :50:18. | |
Conservative government are the ones who are damaging that. Any doubt | :50:19. | :50:24. | |
that the moratorium will end in a band? I don't think so. It looks set | :50:25. | :50:32. | |
in stone. There would be a party revolt if it ended in anything other | :50:33. | :50:36. | |
than a band. They want to wait for the evidence to support it first. | :50:37. | :50:41. | |
They are looking for the evidence for their conclusion rather than | :50:42. | :50:44. | |
using the evidence to come to a conclusion. Evidence being gathered | :50:45. | :50:51. | |
there. In Holyrood, it's filtered through the committee system which | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
is a core element of the work done here in Parliament. New parliament, | :50:56. | :51:00. | |
new committees, new members. Parliament will be asked to endorse | :51:01. | :51:04. | |
the new membership. The SNP no longer has a majority in the chamber | :51:05. | :51:09. | |
so they don't have a majority on the committees. There was a feeling in | :51:10. | :51:12. | |
the last parliament that the committees with an SNP majority were | :51:13. | :51:19. | |
a little bit soup pine and sucking up to ministers. The feeling is that | :51:20. | :51:24. | |
will change. We will look at the situation. Attacks on the and | :51:25. | :51:33. | |
powerful. There is a profound and unqualified apology for all of the | :51:34. | :51:41. | |
distress. Public humiliations. For a lawyer, you are remarkably cavalier | :51:42. | :51:48. | |
with any idea of justice. Exposing showdowns. Committee rooms are often | :51:49. | :51:52. | |
where the action takes place in Parliament. There has long been a | :51:53. | :51:57. | |
feeling that Holyrood's midi system once a jewel in the crown, hasn't | :51:58. | :52:02. | |
been living up to expectations. The cause of the SNP's domination of the | :52:03. | :52:10. | |
committees, people thought that reports were watered down and often | :52:11. | :52:16. | |
blocked by backbenchers. They didn't work as well as they should have | :52:17. | :52:21. | |
done because the SNP controlled the chamber and the committees. An | :52:22. | :52:25. | |
difficult issues for the government, people were turning to committees to | :52:26. | :52:31. | |
get a more positive spin on some of the evidence that the committees | :52:32. | :52:36. | |
were hearing. Last month's third historic election victory changes | :52:37. | :52:43. | |
everything. Having failed to win a majority of seats in parliament, the | :52:44. | :52:51. | |
government has excepted it can no longer expect a majority on the | :52:52. | :52:58. | |
committees. The arithmetic used to calculate emitting memberships is | :52:59. | :53:03. | |
our starting point. That would have given us a majority on some | :53:04. | :53:08. | |
committees. We felt that in the spirit of consensus we should accept | :53:09. | :53:11. | |
the parliamentary arithmetic on the basis that in the chamber we have | :53:12. | :53:15. | |
one less than a majority and that should affect the committees. | :53:16. | :53:21. | |
Parliament's new Presiding Officer says negotiations over committee | :53:22. | :53:25. | |
numbers have been consensual. We found that the parliamentary | :53:26. | :53:31. | |
committee recommended that the number of committees were kept small | :53:32. | :53:37. | |
to make them more effective. We are trying to balance that with strict | :53:38. | :53:40. | |
proportionality. That actually requires larger committees. I found | :53:41. | :53:46. | |
during the negotiations that all the business managers and parties were | :53:47. | :53:51. | |
very collegiate and collaborative in their approach. There is a lot of | :53:52. | :53:55. | |
give and take and we reached a conclusion that is fair to every | :53:56. | :54:03. | |
single party in the Parliament. There's also concern that two of | :54:04. | :54:07. | |
Parliament's main committees are all male. The Presiding Officer has | :54:08. | :54:15. | |
announced that measures will be taken to address gender balance soon | :54:16. | :54:18. | |
meaning that the committees will look very different. Joined by my | :54:19. | :54:29. | |
colleagues again. Is it right to say that the committees in the previous | :54:30. | :54:34. | |
parliament were lickspittle? It was a factor of their arithmetic. The | :54:35. | :54:39. | |
SNP had a majority in the parliament and therefore on the committees. | :54:40. | :54:44. | |
Were they bound to act as cheerleaders rather than | :54:45. | :54:47. | |
scrutineers, some con been as may have tried harder than others to do | :54:48. | :54:52. | |
that. It was an inevitability of the old formula. I think it will be | :54:53. | :54:58. | |
better this time. In what regard? Committees are meant to scrutinise | :54:59. | :55:04. | |
and question and sometimes meant to criticise and I think we are more | :55:05. | :55:11. | |
liable to get that this time. It reflected the majority and now it no | :55:12. | :55:15. | |
longer does because there isn't one. Was the instinct when the government | :55:16. | :55:20. | |
was up against it to roll in behind them rather than to add to their | :55:21. | :55:27. | |
trials? I think it was. Look to the Justice committee of the report on | :55:28. | :55:30. | |
court closures. The committee had been quite robust in its language | :55:31. | :55:34. | |
around closures but when it came to the crunch, backing the government's | :55:35. | :55:39. | |
one, the SNP majority voted it through without a change. Even when | :55:40. | :55:43. | |
members had spoken openly against it. The member for North East Fife, | :55:44. | :55:53. | |
one key quote was speaking out against it and he voted it through. | :55:54. | :55:58. | |
It's a result of the SNP being a very loyal party. It is what | :55:59. | :56:02. | |
happens. They automatically vote that way. We lay a lot of stress on | :56:03. | :56:08. | |
the importance of committees but do we over a gate a little bit? No. It | :56:09. | :56:16. | |
is a revising chamber. If you don't get legislation right first time it | :56:17. | :56:21. | |
is not easy to come back. There is no one overseeing it. The committees | :56:22. | :56:26. | |
are vital to ensure what is past is good law. We can't over exaggerate | :56:27. | :56:32. | |
how important they are. The subject that they're not speak its name, it | :56:33. | :56:38. | |
did occur a little bit. It is purdah, she can't talk about the | :56:39. | :56:42. | |
referendum because civil servants are obliged to remain neutral. She | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
got a of references to a certain debate. There are a lot of things | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
happening today on the European scene. George Osborne has decided to | :56:52. | :56:59. | |
come back north of the border and bring project fear back scarier than | :57:00. | :57:04. | |
ever. Gordon Brown is emerging when he does when it comes to referenda, | :57:05. | :57:09. | |
he comes out from where he has been. He is in Glasgow with Neil Kinnock. | :57:10. | :57:14. | |
The big beasts are out in force. A new report saying why he needs to do | :57:15. | :57:26. | |
this. Although the remaining side remains in the lead in Scotland, it | :57:27. | :57:30. | |
is softer and not committed and there is a danger it could slip. In | :57:31. | :57:41. | |
some ways, what the yes side might have wanted is that the gap is | :57:42. | :57:46. | |
narrowing, to have the effect that was had in the independent | :57:47. | :57:51. | |
referendum. They haven't got that but what they can do is analyse how | :57:52. | :57:58. | |
strong the drive is within that yes support. The Remain support. They | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
have the message that it can't be taken for granted. The Leave side | :58:03. | :58:12. | |
saying that George Osborne's figure of the negative effect on Scotland | :58:13. | :58:16. | |
is nonsense. They are being very strong on this in vote to leave. | :58:17. | :58:27. | |
They point out that George Osborne had to revise his own six-month | :58:28. | :58:31. | |
economic forecast so how can you say two years in the future but the | :58:32. | :58:34. | |
effect of Brexit will be on Scotland? It is a fair point to | :58:35. | :58:38. | |
make. These predictions also have a great deal of, you know... Thank you | :58:39. | :58:45. | |
very much for joining us. It will be interesting to see what Nicola | :58:46. | :58:50. | |
Sturgeon makes of the Treasury forecasts. She didn't like them in | :58:51. | :58:51. | |
2014. Will she like them now Ashton | :58:52. | :58:56. |