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A warm welcome to the Scottish Parliament at Holyrood. Today MSP 's

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will vote to set the Scottish rate of income tax from April this year.

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There is the debate about the new part was due to come in next year.

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Big new tax powers and what level should the grant the? Huge debate in

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dispute with the UK Government. The devolution committee says they have

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extended to moral's deadline. That could come up and questions to the

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First Minister. It could be anything, only one way to find out

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is to cross to the chamber. Parliament just welcoming to the's

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guests. Kezia Dugdale. To ask the First Minister what engagement she

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has planned for the rest of the day? I understand Jeremy Hunt will

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shortly announce the UK Government intends to impose a new contract on

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junior doctors and I therefore want to make it clear to this chamber

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deaths will not apply in Scotland. This is not the way to treat health

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professionals so we will not impose a contract but continue to work with

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our doctors and other NHS staff in the best interests of patients. IPod

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engagements to take forward the Government's programme for Scotland.

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Labour will protect education spending in real terms for the whole

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of the next Parliament. Will the First Minister do the same if she is

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re-elected? We will set out our full plans for education and other

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matters in our manifesto. Let me point out to Kezia Dugdale that the

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record of this Government is so far. Average spending their primary

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pupil, according to the most recent statistics, has increased by 11%,

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?496, since 2006. Average spend per second at ?496, since 2006. Average

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spend per secondary school that has increased by 10%. Total revenue

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spending on schools has risen by ?208 million. That is director of

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this Government and we will continue to act to protect the number of

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teachers and schools and act to address the attainment gap. I am

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happy to ask the people of Scotland in at two weeks' time to judge us on

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that record. Here is director of the SNP. 4000 fewer teachers, 152,000

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fewer college students and the gap with the new bridges and the rest as

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wide as it has ever been. I listened very carefully to the First Minister

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but there was no commitment to protect education spending in real

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terms for the next five years. We can take from that response that

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education spending will be cut again, with even more severe

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consequences. This afternoon SNP controlled Perth and Penrhos Council

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will hold a special budget meeting to discuss the cuts they are being

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forced to make because of the choice this First Minister has made. That

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is the SNP controlled council. Here are the planned cuts. 186 pages

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worth of cuts. Cuts to child care, help for those with additional

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support needs. Cuts took early year teachers, cuts to maths and English

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teachers. Page after page contains a warning of SNP cuts that will harm

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our children's future. That is the reality from one of the First

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Minister's own councils. When will she stop pretending horror budget

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won't harm our children's future? -- she stop pretending horror budget

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oh budget. As Kezia Dugdale is where we have put forward a settlement for

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local authorities that involves a 2% reduction on their total revenue

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spending. That is a reduction of set by the ?250 million that we are

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investing from the National Health Service into social care. In that

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settlement which has now been accepted by all of the local

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authorities in Scotland, enables us to protect households by freezing

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the council tax, enables us to protect the number of teachers in

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our schools, enables's to invest in and expand social care and enables

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us from October of this year to ensure all social care workers are

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paid a living wage. That is the reality. That is the reality of the

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possession of this Government. Of course in the context of a budget

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cut from Westminster imposed on this Government. A budget cuts that

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Labour, when they campaigned so vigorously with the Conservatives,

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were quite happy to see imposed on this Parliament. Athat ship sailed

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the moment she stood side-by-side with the Tories last week to impose

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cuts on our communities. Author! Let's be clear about what these cuts

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really mean. This document, and SNP council, this document here is

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cutting the entire budget for supply teachers. I will quote from the SNP

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council paper about the consequences of that cup. It states, classes may

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have to be sent home and possibly schools closed. That is the scale of

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the cuts that she is imposing on schools and today is Parliament will

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have two set the Scottish rate of income tax for the very first time.

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The First Minister will have another chance to keep the anti-austerity

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promise she made and to stop these cuts to schools and other vital

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public services. For years she has argued more powers means fewer cuts.

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Today she will have the chance to use these powers to stop these cuts.

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Well she finally take it? In the interests of accuracy, the ship of

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labour campaigning hand in hand with the Tories has not sealed. That

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ship, Labour's ship has been sunk and some Scottish Labour completely.

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Let's turn to Labour's policy of raising tax raising the basic rate

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of income tax for every worker in our country earning ?11,000 and

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above. Author! -- Order! Presiding Officer, we know how desperate

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Labour are by the volume of the insults baseline. OurAPPLAUSE

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There is a debate to be had in this country about tax but it should be a

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proper grown-up debate about tax. Labour's policy is written on the

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back of a cigarette packets. The lack of detail is embarrassing but

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then it is a policy put forward by a party that knows it is 100 million

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miles away from being a credible opposition, let alone a credible

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alternative Government. It is a dishonest policy because they know

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it well hit the low paid and that is why they are suggesting a rebate but

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have not been able to answer a single question about how that works

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in practice. It is a policy that is out of touch and Carlos. Kezia

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Dugdale stands there as someone who, like me, and like all of us has a

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decent salary. And yet she suggests increasing the tax bill of the low

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paid by 5% somehow doesn't matter. I seem to Kezia Dugdale, tell that to

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someone who is struggling to make ends meet, felt that to someone who

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has suffered years of pay freezes and is counting every penny. It is

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not fair or progressive to shift the burden of Tory austerity onto the

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shoulders of the low paid and that is probably why less than one in

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three voters back Labour's policy. APPLAUSE

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One moment, Miss double bill. I already warned the chamber about

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haggling the First Minister or anybody else speaking. There was a

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remark that came across the Chamber that I didn't quite here but I think

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from the reaction in the Chamber there was the use the one that is

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clearly unparliamentary. I will review the official report

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afterwards and if the member to that word was used to admit it and

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withdraw it now that would be helpful, but if not I will take

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action this afternoon. First Minister. Sorry, Kezia Dugdale.

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Thank you, presiding officer. It is very clear from the evidence from

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the resolution foundation, from Spice, the House of Commons library,

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that Labour's proposals are fair and workable. That is why council leader

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after council leader has backed them, white union leaders have said

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it is fair. That is the truth that the First Minister cannot escape.

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The First Minister and I have something in common here. We both

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oppose George Osborne's austerity and both want the best for our

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country. Where we part is Labour has a fair plan that will ask some of us

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to pay a bit more and wealthiest few to a lot more. And in so doing we

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can stop these cuts, cuts that would damage our economy and stop young

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people achieving their potential. Cuts that would see councils slash

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spending on other schools and cuts to childcare that are all working

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families back. Faced with the choice between using the powers of this

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Parliament to invest, cutting schools, why does the First Minister

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choose cuts? Firstly, Kezia Dugdale and Labour don't oppose George

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Osborne's austerity, they campaigned with the Tories to keep us subject

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to his austerity. And what Labour want to do is not an austerity shift

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the burden of that austerity on to the shoulders of low paid workers.

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Kezia Dugdale mention the resolution foundation. Here is what they said,

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there will be hard cases and poor families will lose out. That was on

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Labour's policy. Here is what the professors from the University of

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Starling said, as part of the proposal would require a

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comprehensive data sharing arrangement between local

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authorities and impose a substantial administrative burden on local

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authorities. There are questions without such an arrangement would be

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possible under the Scotland Act. Labour is perpetrating a con trick

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on the lowest paid workers in our society. My tax bill will rise by

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2.7% if Labour's proposal was implemented, the tax bill of the

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teacher or a nurse would go up by 5%. That is not fair. I want to get

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Kezia Dugdale the opportunity. This busy tax rise she wants to see

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implemented in seven weeks' time. If she wants to be taken seriously

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better answer these questions. How much will be rebate cost? How will

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it be assessed and how many of the 500,000 pensioners will even get the

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rebate? APPLAUSE

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The First Minister the questions to you, you don't put them to the

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opposition. Ruth Davidson. To ask the First Minister when she will

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meet the Secretary of State for Scotland next? No immediate plans.

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For the first time the SNP Government has taken over

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responsibility for managing payments to farmers. Here is how they have

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done so far. A botched ID system costing nearly have as much as this

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Parliament building. Farmers thought they would receive payments by the

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end of January when only one thought of them have. We know what the

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response has been and it came in five pages of excuses that was

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e-mailed by mistake from the SNP to everybody in Parliament. Can I ask

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the First Minister, should party, instead of getting their excuses

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and, be spending more time fixing the problem's my team, both in

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Government and in the civil service, are working to make sure we get

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payments to farmers as quickly as possible and the cabin is discussing

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this issue on a weekly basis. We are firmly behind the farming community

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and doing everything possible to get payments to them as quickly as

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possible. It is through processing payments as taken longer than

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intended due to the complexities of the new cap system and we have been

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open with industry and with farmers about these complexities and what

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we're doing to address them we started peeing the first instalment

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to farmers by December and by the end of January around 30% had been

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painted with fodder payments initiated. As of last week 35% of

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payments had been committed. Offices are operating seven days a week.

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Additional staff have been taken on an local offices. Richard Lochhead

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is working hard on this and has been working with the banks to make sure

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they take this into account in terms of the lives of farmers. We will get

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on with the job making these payments as quickly as possible.

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She might be quoting straight from that document of blaming complex at

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it, but I will quote from the NFU president. He says Time and again,

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the Scottish Government actions have not matched up to what has been

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promised. NFU S have lost trust in the system to the extent that the

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Cabinet Secretary's assertions cannot be taken as given. We also

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see that Scotland is lodging its own investigation into this failure of

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management, warning that" there is still significant risk to the

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successful delivery of this programme". The First Minister has

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lost the trust of rural Scotland. She has overseen yet another

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government IT fiasco, and farmers no longer have confidence in her rural

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affairs minister. What reassurance, if any, can she give to rural

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workers today that this failure is getting the fullest priority of the

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Scotch government? The reassurance I can give is that we will continue to

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do what Richard Lochhead and all of us have been doing, which is

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concentrating on wrecking sure we get payments to farmers as quickly

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as possible. I have given the chamber and update on the statistics

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so far, and this continues to change on a daily basis as more payments

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are made. We continue to work as hard as possible to make sure that

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as many of the first instalment payments are made by the end of

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March and the balance of payments as soon as possible after that. We are

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porting progress weekly to the relevant Parliamentary committee and

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to industry, and we are in communication with area offices to

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support faster processing and to unblock any issues. That is what we

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will continue to do, work as hard as we can to make sure farmers get the

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payments they are due. What issues will be discussed at the next

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meeting of the Cabinet? Matters of importance to the people of

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Scotland. We have heard that councils across Scotland are setting

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their budgets with ?500 million worth of cuts. We have also heard

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about Perth and Kinross. Right now, SNP run Aberdeenshire Council are in

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their budget meeting. ?3 million worth of cuts to education are on

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the table, but it is not too late for the First Minister to call a

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halt. Will she be got the phone, or does she want her council to make

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those cuts? If Willie Rennie had picked up the phone to his

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conservative colleagues while he was propping them up in coalition, we

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might not have suffered the cuts to our budget that were imposed on us

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by Westminster. As I have said, we have put forward a settlement for

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local authorities that reduces their total revenue expenditure by 2%,

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offset by ?250 million of investment in social care. We want to work with

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local authorities to make sure that settlement protects the things that

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matter, teachers in our schools, social care investment, a living

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wage for social care workers and protecting household budgets. It is

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no surprise to me that the party that backed Iain Duncan Smith when

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he wanted to impose the bedroom tax doesn't care about increasing taxes

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on low-paid workers, but I do, so we will continue to take a fair

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approach, and that will be one of the many differences between this

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government and the Liberal Democrats. It is the same old

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excuses. Order. I would have sympathy for the First Minister, if

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she did not have the power to do something about it, but she does.

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The buck stops in that seat over there. This afternoon, this

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Parliament votes on the income tax resolution. 1p gives ?475 million

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for education for Scotland's children. It is the power to stop

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the cuts. She has the power. Why will she not use it? Is it pride? Is

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it our finance secretary, or does she not care any more? As I have

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said, it is no surprise to me that the leader of a party that spent

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five years in coalition with the Conservatives doesn't care about

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people on low wages. But I do care about people on low wages struggling

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to make ends meet, spending every week counting every penny and pound.

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Willie Rennie's policy of putting a penny on the basic rate of income

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tax, he is not even pretending that he is going to try and compensate

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low income workers the way Labour is. His policy would have everybody

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earning above ?11,000 a year paying more in tax. I don't think that is

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fair. I think that is transferring Tory austerity to the shoulders of

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the low paid. He might want to do that. I am not prepared to do that.

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Bestial number four, Claire Adamson -- questionable for. What is the

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impact on Scotland of the planned UK reductions to housing benefits for

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vulnerable people who stay in supported and women's aid refuge

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accommodation? The UK Government proposed to set the housing element

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of benefit claims to local housing allowance levels, as this is lower

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than the cost of rent and service charges in refuges and supported

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accommodation. This will have a catastrophic impact in some of the

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most vulnerable people in our society who rely on such support for

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survival. That includes women fleeing to Mr kerb use, disabled and

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older people and some homeless people. The Scottish Government is

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concerned about these proposals, which were outlined in the UK

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Government spending review. The social Justice Secretary has written

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to the UK minister for welfare reform to Express her grave concerns

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and seek more clarification will be provided on protection for those in

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supported accommodation. Thus the First Minister agree that the only

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way to stop both tenants and providers from the worry and stress

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being caused by these proposals is if the UK Government make clear now

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that refuge and supported accommodation will be exempt from

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the local housing allowance Cap? Yes, I agree. Tenants need to be

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reassured that their accommodation will be exempt from the local

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housing allowance rate so that they don't need to worry about the

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future. Providers of supported and refuge accommodation also need the

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security to know that they can continue to provide essential

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services and be able to plan for the future. The UK Government's

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proposals mean there is now uncertainty about the future

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provision of refuge and other forms of supported accommodation not just

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in Scotland, but across the UK, despite an announcement that changes

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to funding arrangements would be cost neutral. UK ministers can put

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an end to this worry now, and I call on them to announce an exception for

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refuge and supported accommodation from the local housing allowance

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Cap. What is the Scottish Government's policy on as Westwood's

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forecast for North Sea decommissioning until 2040? This

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report reinforces how important it is to support the sector at this

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time. Our first aim is to avoid any premature cessation of production,

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which is why the UK Government should ensure that the fiscal regime

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is not a barrier to investment, as has been in the past. We must also

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ensure that the decommissioning process is managed effectively.

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Scotland can play a leading role in the development of the

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decommissioning market. While some decommissioning activities to be

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expected over the next decade, there are still substantial reserves to be

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recovered in the North Sea, up to 22 billion barrels of oil and gas are

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admitted to remain. New fields are expected to come on stream. She says

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some decommissioning is to be expected, but 150 of our oil

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platforms are to be scrapped over the next ten years, making

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decommissioning an urgent priority if we are to anchor these industrial

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jobs in Scotland. They are already sailing past our ports down to

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Hartlepool. Dundee needs a working river, not just a waterfront. I have

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met with Shell, and they have said that decommissioning can happen in

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our city. We lost out on the 750 renewables jobs that the SNP

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promised, but we have three factory closures over the last few weeks,

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with lots of skilled people in our city looking for work. Can we get a

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question? Can the First Minister pledge three things, that the oil

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and gas technology centre will be established in Dundee, that she will

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find economic development money like she did for Aberdeen, and that she

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will come to Dundee, meet with our decommissioning companies and see

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how we can scale up to a full-size industry in our city? I will give

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consideration to that proposal, although I understand that a city

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deal for Dundee is still under discussion. And as she will know

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from the Scottish Government's position on the Inverclyde Valley,

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we are supportive of city deals. It is important to say two things.

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Firstly, we must avoid premature decommissioning. That is why the

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announcements we have made around support for North Sea all and gas

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are important. It is widely cited in investment is important. And it is

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why having the right fiscal regime is important. Secondly, we need to

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make sure that as decommissioning does start, which notwithstanding

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what is happening to oil prices, is always going to be the case, we need

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to make sure Scotland is playing a leading role. Decommissioning will

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develop into a major business activity, and there is huge economic

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benefit for us from that. We created the decommissioning trade body to

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establish good practice. We support the planned to establish a single

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decommissioning board so that we can drive forward innovation and

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efficiency, and we are committed to investing in the necessary

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infrastructure to support decommissioning activity, or just

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inserted through the ?2.4 million funding from Scottish Government

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enterprise to develop the key in Shetland, but there will be other

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projects we want to support as well. I would ask Jenny Mara to engage

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with that constructively. Scotland is going to be dramatically more

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exposed to the risks from the inevitable decline in the fossil

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fuel industry if we simply kid ourselves that it isn't happening

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already. Isn't it clear that we face a simple choice - embrace the

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opportunities from decommissioning and accelerate activity in that

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regard as our principal focus, or see those jobs go to bidders from

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other countries, which will gain an international reputation of being

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world leaders in the industry? I noticed a Jenny Mara applauding a

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call for accelerated decommissioning of the North Sea. That seems a

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strange position to take. I would say to Patrick Harvie, I agree with

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the first part of his question. I hope he heard me say we should

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embrace the opportunities of decommissioning. We differ in that I

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don't think we should be accelerating decommissioning, we

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should seek to avoid a mature and commissioning. We should also do

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what this government has consistently done, which is invest

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in infrastructure and renewable generation. We will continue to

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support the North Sea, while also supporting the transition to

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renewable capacity. That is the right balance approach to take.

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Could I ask the First Minister what is good government's response is to

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the latest Bank of Scotland's purchasing management index? I

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welcome the recent Bank of Scotland purchasing manager's index. It

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signals the continued expansion of the private sector in Scotland at

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the start of this year. It also highlights that the services and

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manufacturing sectors continue to be affected by the challenges we have

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been talking about in the oil and gas industry and by the global

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economic environment. That is why in supporting the Scottish economy, we

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recently pledged ?379 million of investment in Aberdeenshire. Last

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week, if further ?12 million were provided to give support to those

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who are retraining or undertaking new education. But despite the

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positive gloss the First Minister puts on it, the report from the Bank

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of Scotland is just one of a series of reports that have had worrying

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news for the Scottish economy. Yesterday, the Scottish Government's

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National accounts survey showed that Scottish GDP per capita is now 1%

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lower than the rest of the UK, when two years ago, it was 6% higher. In

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this draft budget, the Scottish Government announced a doubling of

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the so-called large business supplement for nondomestic rates,

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which will hit 26% of businesses in Edinburgh, 25% in Aberdeen, 24% in

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Inverness and 20% in Perth. How will this ?60 million tax raid on

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Scottish businesses help grow our economy? The increase in the large

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business payment is lower than it was in 2011. This has been reflected

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throughout our discussions. On one side, we have people wanting us to

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put tax up on basic rate income tax payers. On the other side, we have

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people wanting us to cut taxes for business. We will continue to take a

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balanced approach to our budget, to growing our economy and ensuring

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fairness for taxpayers. Murdo Fraser puts forward in characteristic style

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the doom and gloom view of the Scottish economy. Of course there is

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no room for complacency because of the global economic conditions, but

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let's look at the reality in our economy. Our economy has grown to

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three years continuously. We have a higher employment rate than the UK

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as a whole. Employment is now 67,000 above its prerecession peak. We have

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a higher youth implement rate than the UK. Our female employment rate

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is the second highest in the UK. We are investing where investment is

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required, and we are continuing to support our economy as it moves

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forward. I would hope Murdo Fraser and the chamber will get behind this

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government is it six to make sure we continue to see growth in the

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Scottish economy. That ends First Minister's Questions. STUDIO: We

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have come to the end of questions for the First Minister's Questions.

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It was mainly about tax and spending, Nicola Sturgeon seeking to

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project herself as steering a middle path. There was some rather

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ungallant children coming from Murdo Fraser as a consequence, but

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nonetheless, some good exchanges. Time to me to say goodbye and hand

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you over to the Daily Politics. political transition is, but we have

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to make all our efforts to get that transition and be thinking about

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what happens after that. The conference last week was about that,

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but this will only end, they will need help from the local Sunni

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powers to do it.

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