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Hello, a warm welcome to the Scottish Parliament here at

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Holyrood, they focused on the aftermath of the Chancellor's Autumn

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Statement, ?800 million more for Scotland, capital spending, over

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format years, the Scottish Government says it does not make up

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for the cuts they have suffered. There is an argument over the

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railways. What's going on. Let's see if any of those topics come up in

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questions to the First Minister and over to Glen Campbell.

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-- four. That is a round of applause to welcome the ambassador from

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Sweden and he is welcomed to the gallery.

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I would like to ask the First Minister what engagement she has

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planned for the rest of the day? To take forward the Scottish

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Government's programme. Thank you. Yesterday the Transport

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Minister said ScotRail had learned the lessons from the chaos that

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passengers have endured. In the statement yesterday he left a series

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of questions unanswered. He said that ScotRail is under way to

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implementing 250 action points for improvement but he will not tell us

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what they are. It is not for the first time. One month ago he told

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MSPs any parliamentary committee that he would come back to them with

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an answer. When asked again yesterday, he had nothing more to

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tell us. Can the First Minister give us a commitment to date, while her

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government published its 250 action points or not?

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Yes, ScotRail will publish them within the next few days. I thank

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the First Minister for that answer and I appreciate the clarity. Of

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course, it would have been better as the Transport Minister had been able

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to give the same clarity yesterday. As we are making progress, let us

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keep it going. Let us keep this progress going, First Minister. We

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are told there are 250 action points but we will not be pulled... Well,

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we want to be told when they upcoming! Let us look at timing. We

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are told that work is underway to deliver them. How can be judge that

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when yesterday, when asked, the Transport Secretary ducked the

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question on timescale? The public want to know when things will get

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better. We asked yesterday but there was no answer from the Transport

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Minister. You have given me an answer today that he did not give

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me. Let us go for two out of two. What is the deadline for the

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improvements? Can you give us an answer that he did not? These

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improvements cover a period of time. There is a summary of all of these

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action points that is on the website or ScotRail that any merger of the

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Chamber or public can read. The full detail of each of the 246, to be

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precise, action points will be published over the next few days.

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What the cover art improvements to infrastructure, improvements to the

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ScotRail fleet and improvements to operations and, of course, all of

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this is backed by an investment of ?5 billion over the remainder of

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this decade and improving our real services. But in terms of the

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timescale, Humza Yousaf made it very clear yesterday that what we are

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doing and pressing Scott Dureau to deliver our ongoing improvements to

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their performance. The contract that is in place right now targets

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ScotRail with making sure that 91 out of every 100 trains run within

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the recognised industry standard for punctuality. At the moment, their

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performance is 89 out of 100, that is not good enough. The various

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action points that are covered in this plan are about improving that

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service and we are beginning to see improvements in that service

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immediately. We should all get behind the Transport Minister as he

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seeks to do that. And we were doing so well. Now we have got a

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government that is only one month on starting to reveal the improvement

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plan that one month ago it said it would get on with doing so. But also

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this week it floated an alternative plan and it raised the question of a

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public sector operator running the system. We must ensure that any of

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these options are realistic, so can the First Minister tell the Chamber,

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what is the earliest that such an operator could take over eight Jams

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system and as the Transport Minister has said if it is not a poorer

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service, why did she think it is necessary? -- the rail system. We

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had a commitment in our manifesto to make sure there were possibilities,

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we did not have the powers previously, but we have said when

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the franchise is next up for renewal that there will be a public service

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able to compete for that franchise. I know that the Tories are no friend

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of the public sector, privatisation has always been the watchword of the

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Tories, but we want to make sure that there is a public service bed

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able to complete when the franchise is up for renewal, at the earliest

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that will be 2022, and we will begin to make plans to ensure that that is

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possible. That is why Humza Yousaf, and he said yesterday in this

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chamber, has invited all of the transport spokespersons from the

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parties to a meeting to begin discussions on how that can be

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delivered. I would hope that all people in this chamber would welcome

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that and it shows the action at this government is taking to improve our

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railways. Presiding Officer, even the First Minister would admit that

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this week the rail networks have been in a shambles. Commuters

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standing on platforms. The Scottish Government has blamed the train

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operator for the mess and the train operator has been the Scottish

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Government for how many seats are available and therefore

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overcrowding. The contract has at least six more years to run and the

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question that passengers want an answer to is pretty simple. When

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they have seen the events of the last week, over the next six years,

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how can they have any confidence at all that this deal is going to work?

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Firstly, in terms of capacity on our railways, we are working towards

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plans that will deliver 200 new services, 20,000 more seats each day

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and better journey times. That is what we are purchasing but the ?5

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billion of investment we are putting into our railways. I should tell

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you, 60% of the cost of running our railways in Scotland comes from

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government funding, that compares to 20% salt of the border and while

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performance of our railways right now, as I have said and the

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transmitters -- Transport Minister has said, is not as good as we would

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like it to be, we attempt to see it improved, but the performance in the

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teams in Scotland is slightly better than the GB average. So we take our

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responsibilities seriously and I would think it is better for all

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members across this chamber to back the Transport Minister as he works

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to make sure that ScotRail is delivering the standard of service

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that the travelling public have the right to expect.

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Kezia Dugdale. To as the First Minister what engagements she has

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planned for the rest of it? I will be in Cardiff tomorrow for a meeting

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with the British Irish Council. Today there was more Dyfi and

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destruction on the Jams network of Scotland. At one stage one of trains

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were running late. Yet again, thousands of people were delayed

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getting to work. Out of this week the Transport Minister Humza Yousaf

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said it was not a poorer service and in an answer to Ruth Davidson the

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First Minister did what the government always does, she blamed

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the Labour Party and then talked about England. -- rail. But she

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really think that those delayed in Glasgow Central today care about

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what happened in 2002 what is happening in Cornwall this morning?

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I am not particularly interested as to what is happening in Cornwall,

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but I am interested in what is happening in Scotland. What has

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happened this morning as members are aware, there has been a points

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failure affecting services to and from Glasgow Central, that failure

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has now been rectified. I regret any delay and any disruption and as I

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said last week we apologise to anyone whose team was delayed

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because of that points failure. Unfortunately, these kind of things

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do happen on our railways and what is important is that ScotRail

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communicate properly with the travelling public and that we make

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sure that the investments in our rail infrastructure bridges the

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chances of these things happening in the future and that is why the

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investment plan and operations, infrastructure and fleet are so

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important. We will continue to take our responsibility seriously. When I

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talk about performance under Labour, I am not suggesting that should in

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any way excuse poor performance right now, but I simply put at... We

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simply do that to put the performance of today into context.

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For the most recent period, the performance of ScotRail was 89.8%,

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it should be higher than that, but that is higher than in any one of

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the year is under way last Labour Administration. I say that simply to

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put it into context. So we will continue to make the investments and

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to the work necessary to improve our rail services. I think that is what

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the travelling public have a right to expect from us. I am sure that

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was of great comfort to the people stranded on platforms this morning!

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But I am glad that the First Minister agrees with me that the

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service Scotland's commuters are receiving is not good enough and

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that the First Minister thinks that passengers deserve better. Because

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in January, the price of regulated rail fears is due to rise. A

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passenger using an annual season ticket to travel between Edinburgh

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and Glasgow will have to pay ?71 more next year. That makes people

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even angrier. I think passengers deserve a break. That is why today

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Labour is publishing a plan to freeze all regulated rail fears next

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year. Surely the First Minister agrees with us... Surely the First

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Minister agrees with us that people deserve a break? She has the power

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to give them one. So while she backed the call of the Labour Party

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for 2017 rail f freeze. We will look to see how that

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proposal is being paid for because we have an investment package that

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we have spoken about that is important that we are able to

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implement and deliver. We do not want to see rail fares increase more

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than necessary and that is why at the moment we have increases in rail

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fares at the lowest level since powers over railway were devolved to

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this parliament in 2005. We have seen peak time rail Jams Limited to

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inflation, offbeat ones limited to inflation -1%, so that is the

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discipline that we exert on rail fares. Above all else, we will make

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sure that we have fearless above the funding of our railways to make sure

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that we can carry out the investments that are required to

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make sure that standards improve on our railways. This is a serious

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proposal with the means to pay for it contained with them and we would

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as the Scottish Parliament's independent experts to cost it for

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us. They have estimated that it would cost as little as ?2 million.

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That is the equivalent of two months' profit, two months' Abellio

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profit. People are fed up with expensive, overcrowded and

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unreliable trains and the SNP are desperate to talk tough about what

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action they might take in 2022, but passengers left stranded on freezing

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platforms this morning need a break now. Does the First Minister not

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agree with me that after weeks of misery, passengers and Scotland

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deserve to know that there is light at the end of the tunnel with a rail

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fare freeze in 2017? Firstly, we have said that we will attack any

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proposal that is put forward and I will stick that commitment but we

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have also been beaming down on rail fare increases already. As I said to

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Ruth Davidson, a much bigger proportion of our funding of

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railways comes from government funding as opposed to rail fares as

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is the key south of the border and I think that is right and proper. But

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we will plan the investment as required to improve the

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infrastructure and the trains and the operation of our trained so that

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the kind of the lives that we are talking about at the moment are not

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seen in the future. That is the disposable action we will continue

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to take and I think that is the action the travelling public have a

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right to expect. Yes, we will look at the option of a public servers

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that in the future but at the moment we will focus on making the

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improvements that people want to see.

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Constituency supplementary is, the force from Richard Lyle. Thank you,

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too as the First Minister what the response is of the Scottish

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Government on the news that the proposed closure of the Kwik-Fit

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insurance services contact servers are in my constituency? I am aware

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of the closure of the Kwik-Fit site in Uddingston with the possible loss

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of more than 5000 jobs that were 500 jobs and my thoughts are with those

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concerned at this time. Paul Wheelhouse spoken to the management

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and they are looking at options. We have underlined our full support for

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the auditing site and the workforce and we are committed to working with

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North Lanarkshire Council and others to do all we can to retain jobs.

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Scottish enterprise is working closely with the company to consider

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all possible avenues for support and we will continue to engage

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throughout the consultation process. It is important that we give the

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site and its work force the full support they need and deserve at

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this difficult time and we are absolutely committed to doing that.

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Presiding Officer, as a result of some very unsatisfactory clinical

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outcomes at Caithness General's maternity unit, one mother in fact

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had to endure hard labour in an ambulance on the road between work

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and risk more, it would appear that NHS Highland have proposed next week

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without public consultation to downgrade the Caithness general

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maternity unit to a midwife led unit with Read more becoming the hub.

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Knowing that childbirth can quickly become life-threatening, not only to

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mother but also to child, if the government happy that Caithness and

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Sutherland mothers, with difficult deliveries, might have to face five

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Hour Drive is to Inverness, which could be considerably more in

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winter? Would they not join me and hopefully the First Minister and the

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Caithness residents and local councillors and asking for a full

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public consultation before these changes are automatically impose?

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This is an important issue which has been raised. It was first raised,

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and want to make clear the standard of care received in that care fell

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below what we would expect for women in Scotland, and I expect NHS

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Highland and the Ambulance Service to act on the findings and make

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improvements to ensure mothers and babies can be transferred safely and

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comfortably whenever they need to be. On the more general issue, as

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the member is aware, NHS Highland published a report into the safety

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of maternity in neonatal services in Caithness hospital and they will

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further consider that later this month. The report was triggered by

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the death of a baby in Caithness meetings to unit in September 20 15.

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And on the bases above report cover the medical director will recommend

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Caithness is re-figureheads and should operate tonne operate as a

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midwife led units. The recommendation has been made on the

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grounds of safety, it is supported by external review, but as a reason

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why NHS Highland Road consoled on the decision, and it won't come to

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ministers. However, they are proposing to consult widely on the

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proposals to strengthen and to ensure they meet local concerns. I

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hope all members would recognise where a report makes a

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recommendation on the basis of patient safety and it is clearly on

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the basis of safety, it is incumbent upon the local NHS board to act

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accordingly. The First Minister will be aware of this week's announcement

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a buyer has been found for the hydroelectric plant and surrounding

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land and fort William currently owned. Can the business provide an

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update? They informed its workforce and the stock exchange yesterday it

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had reached agreement to sell its shareholding to the Alliance in a

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deal that has, is being supported by the Scottish Government. The sale is

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great news for the local community and especially for the 150 plus

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people working at the fort William and the mini site. The uncertainty

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hanging over the site was lifted, ending an anxious wait for the

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workforce and those whose livelihoods depend on the business.

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This deal not only safeguards existing jobs, but also has the

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potential to create hundreds more through planned investment. I hope

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everybody across the chamber would warmly welcome it. Is the First

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Minister aware that cuts are being made to mental health services by

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West and bark and ship partnership, as a result of NHS Greater Glasgow

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and Clyde's budget? Is you further away the SNP group leader voted with

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the unelected health board appointees in favour of these cuts,

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whilst Labour councillors voted against? Did she agree with the SNP

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group leader 's's actions in voting for cuts to mental health services

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in my area? Firstly, Greater Glasgow and Clyde's budget has not been cut

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next year, it is increasing in line with a budgets of other territorial

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health boards. And the reason for that, of course, is this

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government is committed to increasing the NHS budget overall

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and over this Parliament by ?500 million more than inflation. It is a

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bigger commitments which Labour made. That is to reality for the

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situation. In terms of the particular issue Jackie Baillie

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razors, I am not aware of the particular local issue. If she wants

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to write to me, I will look into that. The health service, because of

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rising demand, faces real pressures, but we are determined to work with

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the health service to give it extra resources so it can meet those

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pressures, and within the overall NHS budget, we have make clear our

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budget to increase funding for mental health services as well. At

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this very moment, the city of Edinburgh Council is meeting to

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approve its local development plan. A document that will see thousands

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upon thousands of new homes built in my constituency, putting intolerable

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pressure on health services, further choking our two routes which are

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ranked as the most polluted in Scotland. And in addition, tearing

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up much loved green belts and natural heritage in areas like this

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state. I accept there is a housing crisis in this country, but there is

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a crisis of a different kind in my constituency. Citizens of West

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Edinburgh are on their knees groaning under the weight of new

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houses that we are forced to endure. Will the Scottish Government bring

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forward a new planning Bill which seeks to rule out development in

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areas that are not sustainable, which compels developers under

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section 75 orders to in the first phase of the Buckman build things

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like new health centres and road infrastructure? Will she defined

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once and for what is meant green belts, and protected for evermore? I

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am more than happy to look into the detail that the member raisers, but

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as I listen to the question, I'm struck by two things. This is a

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question which appears to be criticising the Scottish Government

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for a Council wanting to build more houses, given that many members in

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your position frequently criticise us for not building and of houses,

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it seems to be a rather contradictory way of attacking the

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government. Secondly, from a party that issues you standing up in this

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chamber accusing the government of centralising decision-making, to now

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stand up and ask us to pass legislation to restrict the local

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decision-making of a local council seems to me to be entirely on its

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head. So, we will continue to make sure the planning system operates

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effectively, that concerns of local communities are taken into account,

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but we can see expansion in house-building, which is much needed

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across the. Can ask the First Minister when the Cabinet will next

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meet? Tuesday. The Cabinet hasn't left itself much time now between

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yesterday's Westminster budget Staten tonne statement and to

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introduce a new draft statement for Scotland next year. The statement

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yesterday was accompanied by a great deal of rhetoric about protecting

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people who are just about managing. It contained a great deal more good

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news for the wealthiest. Some 85% of the income tax cuts over the course

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of the rest of the Parliament will go to the richest households. The

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people who are being given some light relief in changes to Universal

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Credit, that only restores a tiny fraction of what has already been

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taken away from them. And the other writing of the so-called national

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living wage, the other band on the minimum wage, won't get anywhere

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close to the real living wage and also won't protect younger workers,

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who are the most exploited at the moment in our economy. The Scottish

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Government can take action on all of these. Does the First Minister

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agreed that the Scottish budget must not only avoid reproducing the same

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unjust policies that are being pursued south of the border, but

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must result in a punitive benefit to Scotland that closes the inequality

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gap and lose far fewer people in Scotland generally struggling? Yes,

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I do agree with that. Our budget will be published on the 15th of

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December. I think it's important to talk about the context for this

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Parliament and this government of what the Chancellor announced. It

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doesn't surprise me with Davidson didn't want to mention Autumn

:23:50.:23:55.

Statement today. Because even after the additional capital funding that

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was announced yesterday, that we will benefit from Brew consequential

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is, our budget by the end of this decade will be 9.2%

:24:02.:24:15.

in real terms no one than it was when the Tories took office. In

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effect of the ?800 million yesterday, instead of our budget

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being ?3.3 billion lower than when the Tories took office, it will be

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?2.9 billion lower, and the Tories want is to be thankful for that. Of

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course, we saw the Universal Credit situation remained largely

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unchanged, which means the autumn budget statement was a case of

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taking money away from the poorest are given to the richest. It was

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busting the Tories showing their true colours. We will set out and

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were budget plans on the 15th of December but we have already said we

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will not pass on a massive tax cut to the 10% top income earners in the

:24:52.:24:55.

country, because at a time when our budget has been hammered, when

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public services are being hammered, when ?100 billion of additional

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borrowing because of the Brexit recklessness, this is a time to

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protect our services and protect the vulnerable, and this is what this

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government will do. APPLAUSE

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That goal is one I share, but I hope we can move away from the language

:25:17.:25:20.

of passing on tax cuts over the border. The Chancellor down south

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doesn't set tax rates and balance in Scotland. It is the Scottish

:25:26.:25:28.

Government that will set them, so there's no question on passing on,

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it is about deciding what is right for Scotland in the first

:25:33.:25:36.

principles. It seems pretty clear there are specific actions that must

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be taken if we want the Scottish budget to have the effect that the

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First Minister is saying she wants to achieve. We should be saying, for

:25:44.:25:50.

example, that all workers, not just of workers over 25, will get the

:25:51.:25:55.

genuine living wage and have the kind of conditionality on that for

:25:56.:25:58.

government support that the Scottish Government has shied away from. We

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should be using the capital spending to cut people's living costs on

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areas such as energy efficiency. We should be using devolve powers to

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top up benefit, a top of the child benefit could lift tens of thousands

:26:13.:26:15.

of children out of poverty in Scotland. And we must avoid

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protecting wealthy people like ourselves in this progressive tax

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policies that save money the people on low incomes and razored for those

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who can afford to pay more. Does the First Minister agree it is

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dispiriting to see the Labour Party, for example, say it is middle

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earners who would cost more money if we raised the higher rate? Higher

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rate taxpayers are on high incomes commission and we expect them to pay

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a bit more? I agree with that last point. Higher rate income earners in

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over ?43,000 a year. My judgment is it is not right to give a large tax

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cut to the top 10% of income earners at a time when those at the bottom

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end suffering so much and when there is so much pressure on our public

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services. That is the judgment we make. It is dispiriting after the

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rhetoric we've heard in this Parliament, John MacDonald saying

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they agreed with that tax cut for top earners. In terms of the other

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point Patrick Harvie razors, he will appreciate I won't go into all

:27:23.:27:26.

details because the finance secretary will set out the budget in

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due course. If we look at energy efficiency, this government will

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invest heavily in energy efficiency, we will continue to do everything we

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can to mitigate the effect of welfare cuts. I would across the

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chamber would welcome the fact we have managed to confirm our work

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programme would have sanctions attached to it, something which will

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be warmly welcomed. In terms of the minimum and living wage, although we

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don't have the power to set it, we make it clear we want to see the

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extension of the real living wage, and I've extended to 40,000 social

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care workers. These are the actions we will continue to take to help

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those most in need and to protect our public services, and when we

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published the budget, I hope the whole chamber will back it. There's

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a minister is aware NHS Ayrshire has a less than good track record going

:28:20.:28:25.

back many years regarding not disseminating information gained and

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lessons learned at critical incidents. Pattern of failure for

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too many brave families is established, and while I welcome

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this L'Ecole review into baby deaths, we have been here before and

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the question remains -- this new review. Does the First Minister

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believed, and can she guarantee the outcome of this enquiry into baby

:28:49.:28:51.

deaths will deliver improvements for the people of Ayrshire? Firstly, it

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is fair to say changes have been made. The review, the John Scott, I

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instigated it as Health Secretary in 2012, a review of Ayrshire's adverse

:29:09.:29:13.

management. Some of what we have heard is deeply concerning and

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that's why the Health Secretary has asked is to improve it. And any

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others they believe is necessary and report on whether the process is

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being followed. We will report back at the earliest point necessary, and

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we will talk to the families. I can give assurances that if there are

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lessons to be learnt on improvements to be made, we will not hesitate to

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act. The justice minister has instructed Her Majesty's

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Inspectorate of Constabulary to undercover Lowe review undercover

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policing. One of the key officers Stephen Whitelock who was previously

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deputy director of the specialist force that was responsible for

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carrying out the undercover policing activity that he is now reviewing.

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Will the First Minister stepping and remove Mr Whitelock from the inquiry

:30:13.:30:18.

which might otherwise it credibility will be in tatters before its work

:30:19.:30:24.

has barely begun. I will fully consider the issue Neal Finlay is

:30:25.:30:27.

raising but I think more generally, as he said, the Justice Secretary

:30:28.:30:33.

has directed them to undertake a review of undercover policing, it is

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important we allow that to proceed and then act on any of the findings

:30:38.:30:41.

of it, but I want to make sure we all want to make sure there is

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confidence in that review, so we will consider any issues that were

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raised that might damage that confidence, so I will look at the

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issue and come back to the member in due course.

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With Brexiteers ?350 million per week replaced by the Chancellor

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yesterday replaced by ?250 million per week and new boring, does this

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not make it much more difficult for governments north and south of the

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border to deliver a social justice when our economy is being burdened

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by debt of this magnitude due to the incompetence of the Tories? -- ball

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rolling. -- borrowing. Yes, that is absolutely correct, we started to

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see perhaps for the first time yesterday laid bare the true cost of

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Brexit and rather than there being the promise of ?350 million extra

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each week for the National Health Service, what we saw yesterday, is

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that the additional borrowing, the additional borrowing caused by

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Brexit led to ?225 million a week, that is the Brexit con that so many

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people in the Conservative Party have presided over. That is why I am

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determined that we continue to explore every option to protect the

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interests of Scotland and in particular predictable place in the

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single market because that is how we minimise the cost of Brexit that are

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being imposed on us by the Conservative Party. Thank you,

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Presiding Officer, last month the First Minister voted for an

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amendment in this chamber setting out red lines regarding the great

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deals. Yesterday, it was confirmed there would be no scrutiny of these

:32:30.:32:33.

deals by the European Court of Justice. This government's written

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answers and firms that there is a threat to our NHS and our protected

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foods. Bobby Minister release legal advice that points to damaging

:32:43.:32:45.

impacts and what action will she take to make sure that Scotland's

:32:46.:32:50.

voice and values are held in Europe at the Skrtel time? -- the First

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Minister. You will be aware of the legal

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advice, we do not have direct power over trade agreements that you have

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mentioned. But where I agree with you is that it is an comet on the

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government and Powell Parliament to make sure that the voice of Scotland

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as Herod and as I have said previously, we do have concerns

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around some of the contents of both these trade agreements and the

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threat to public services, including the NHS and we have argued there

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should be an explicit exclusion for the NHS in agreements like this. We

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have concerns over the investor state dispute resolution process. We

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will continue to argue the case that Scotland's concern should be taken

:33:38.:33:39.

into account and we will make sure that the voice of Scotland is heard

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on these matters. To ask the First Minister what the

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response of the Scottish Government is to the Autumn Statement? The

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Autumn Statement starkly set up the to the UK economy and public

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finances with economic growth and tax revenue revised downwards and

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the borrowing and inflation sharply up. In responding, the UK Government

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had the opportunity to end its field austerity policy but instead the

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Chancellor has continued with the cuts that are reducing budgets to

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public services and getting the income to families across Scotland.

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A small increase in capital investment is welcomed, but this

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reduces the cuts that were put in place by the Chancellor's

:34:18.:34:19.

predecessor. By the end the decade our capital

:34:20.:34:54.

budget alone will be 8% lower in real terms than it was when the

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Tories came to power in 2010. We will publish the Scottish draft

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budget next month and it will set up the measures we are taking to

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support our economy, tackle inequality and invest in public

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services, underlining the very different approaches our two

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governments take. Thank you. Woody First Minister agree with me that

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the full extent of the Tories' reckless gamble with the nation's

:35:09.:35:10.

future has been laid bare for all to see in the Autumn Statement? I she

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had said, slower growth, higher inflation and with tax revenue down.

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Would she do with me that the bombshell projection that the UK

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debt will increase by a staggering ?220 billion by 2020 if there is a

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hard Brexit that makes it absolutely imperative that Scotland is able to

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remain any single market by whatever means?

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The Tories do not like to hear this because what we are hearing now is

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the reality of their recklessness on Brexit. ?100 billion of additional

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borrowing. Debt increasing by around ?200 billion. Debt to GDP ratio

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hitting 90%, lower growth and lower real wages and a real squeeze on

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living standards. That is the price of the Tory Brexit that Ruth

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Davidson and her colleagues seem now to be so enthusiastic about. Well,

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the Tories in Scotland might be the born-again Brexiteers, but this

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government will continue to stand up for the interests of Scotland, we

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will continue to seek to protect our place in Europe and, yes, we will

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continue to find ways to protect our place in the single market because

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that is what we need to do to protect jobs, protect public

:36:19.:36:21.

finances and to protect the living standards of people across this

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country because none of these things are safe in the hands of the Tories.

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Murdo Fraser. Thank you, Presiding Officer, can I

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suggest that if the First Minister wants to find Brexiteers, all she

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needs to do is look at the benches behind her! The Chancellor's Autumn

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Statement delivers for Scotland, ?800 million extra capital spending,

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?74 million extra resource pending, 3.3 billion for our Scottish

:36:54.:36:57.

charities, a freeze in fuel duty is, an increase in the personal alarms

:36:58.:37:01.

to help the lowest earners and an increase in research and development

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spending and the City Deal for Stirling and Clackmannanshire. The

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constituency members seem to have forgotten about that. All of this is

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part of the fastest-growing economy in the G7. Why cannot the First

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Minister for once stop being so measurable and just welcomed this

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good news? First Minister. I think most of the misery yesterday was

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coming from the Chancellor, not from anyone on this site, I remember the

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days when Murdo Fraser used to aspire to be a serious politician.

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Now he is simply delusional. You know, the facts speak for themselves

:37:47.:37:53.

and let us take account, let's take account of the 800 million extra in

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capital, of the 74 million extra in revenue. Let us factor that all in

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and see where we end up. We end up any position, whereby the end of

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this decade, by the end of this decade, our budget will not be 3.3

:38:09.:38:12.

billion more when it always took office as we were expecting, it will

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just be 2.9 billion lower than when the Tories took office, and yet, the

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Tories expect us all to thank them for that. Well, that is the price of

:38:23.:38:26.

allowing the Tories to run our economy and the difference between

:38:27.:38:29.

model freezer and the Conservatives and those of us in this house is

:38:30.:38:34.

that we think we do a better job of running our economy ourselves, that

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is the choice that faces us. Alexander Stewart. Thank you, too as

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the First Minister what action the Scottish Government is taking in

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light of recent reports that Scotland's children are some of the

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least active in the world? Some of the findings of the Active Healthy

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Kids Report Card 2016 are disappointing and we want to do more

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to challenge sedentary behaviour and decreased the physicality level of

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children. As the board recognises we have a strong widget of the

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infrastructure in place that underpin our plans. The outcomes

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framework hopefully provide more opportunities for children to be

:39:13.:39:15.

active and build upon our investment in school board and sports

:39:16.:39:19.

facilities since 2007. I am sure the member will share my disappointment

:39:20.:39:24.

that the UK Government watered down its recent childhood obesity

:39:25.:39:27.

strategy and I hope will lend her support for our call on restrictions

:39:28.:39:32.

on junk food advertising before 9pm to children's exposure to the

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marketing of unhealthy foods. Thank you for that response and I do

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welcome the government's efforts to encourage physical activity,

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however, according to the Scottish health survey, the SNP have only

:39:45.:39:48.

managed to increase the number of children meeting physical activity

:39:49.:39:51.

guidelines by a few percent since the to power. As the First Minister

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admit not enough progress has been made on this? I readily acknowledge

:39:56.:40:01.

that we have to do much more but let us look at children doing two hours

:40:02.:40:08.

or more periods of PE, for example. In 20 -- in 2005, that was less than

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10%, there sure that has gone up to 98%. That is just one example of the

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progress that is being made and we are investing heavily in local

:40:19.:40:22.

sports facilities. The report that the member's question referred to,

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the Active Healthy Kids Report Card, it found that we scored very well in

:40:29.:40:31.

terms of policies and facilities but in terms of actual physical activity

:40:32.:40:35.

or children, there is much more that we need to do, that is why we are

:40:36.:40:42.

supporting the daily mile scheme in our schools which is an absolutely

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fantastic initiative. We will continue to make sure that the

:40:45.:40:48.

facilities and investment is translating into actual improvements

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and epitope on this issue, because it is so important, not just at the

:40:52.:40:54.

moment but for the future, that people in this chamber would get

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behind us on this. James Kelly. Thank you, two as the First Minister

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what action the Scottish Government is taking to tackle the problem of

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nuisance calls? I know the significant harm that

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emissions calls can harm -- can have, particular on the most

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vulnerable in society, much of this power is lying with Westminster.

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Much more can be done to tackle this. We held a summit in June with

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representatives of UK regulators and telecoms companies and consumer

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groups on what practical steps can be taken and it is why we have

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outlined plans in the Programme for Government on a nuisance calls

:41:37.:41:39.

commission which meets for the first time next week. There are no easy

:41:40.:41:44.

solutions to this, but the response from our commission members,

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business groups, the UK Government, shows there is a willingness to

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protect consumers and tackle unscrupulous business practice. I

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thank the First Minister for that answer. I am sure the First Minister

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will agree with me that nuisance calls are unacceptable, particularly

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because they are often used to target the old and the vulnerable.

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The scale of the problem in Scotland is highlighted by the UK says stakes

:42:12.:42:14.

which were published earlier this week and they showed that Scottish

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cities occupy three of the top format places in proportion nuisance

:42:17.:42:23.

of calls. In Glasgow alone, over half of all incoming calls to

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trueCall customers were regarded as nuisance calls. Can I asked the

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First Minister therefore, if the Scottish Government will make use of

:42:33.:42:36.

the new consumer powers and published a bold action plan which

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will put pressure on businesses to protect consumers and help

:42:42.:42:45.

vulnerable people by supporting the provision of call blocking

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technology? -- top three of four. Yes, I broadly agree with everything

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the member has said. I agree that nuisance calls are unacceptable,

:42:57.:42:59.

particularly as they tend to target older and more vulnerable people.

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Beasley, much of the action can be taken here is reserved to

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Westminster but that does not mean that we will not explore what action

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is available to us. You are right to point out, although there is no

:43:12.:43:14.

clear explanation as to why this is the case, are that nuisance calls

:43:15.:43:18.

appear to be more of a problem in Scotland than they are in other

:43:19.:43:21.

parts of the UK. You are correct to point out that we will have further

:43:22.:43:32.

powers over consumer policies and we are actively looking at how they use

:43:33.:43:38.

those policies in a way that can make a contribution to tackling this

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problem and obviously call blocking technology is one of the areas, not

:43:42.:43:43.

just the Scottish Government, but other governments are looking at. I

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am very happy to continue a dialogue on this with any member across the

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Chamber who is interested in this as we seek to work out how we can best

:43:49.:43:55.

tackle what is an unacceptable and I think, most people would agree, a

:43:56.:43:59.

growing problem for older people in particular in our duties. Daniel

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Johnson. To ask the First Minister, following the recent call from Save

:44:02.:44:04.

The Children, what action the Scottish Government is taking to

:44:05.:44:07.

increase the number of teachers and other staff working in this race

:44:08.:44:10.

with specialist training in spite and language development? Our

:44:11.:44:15.

national practice guidance published in 2014 focuses on the needs of

:44:16.:44:19.

babies, potters and young children and a variety of settings and makes

:44:20.:44:23.

best practice recommendations. We are committed to expanding the free

:44:24.:44:27.

error learning and child care including to the most vulnerable to

:44:28.:44:30.

get old and by 2018 providing nurseries in the most deprived areas

:44:31.:44:34.

of Scotland with an additional graduate or teacher with early

:44:35.:44:40.

learning expertise. In addition, childcare entitlement will be

:44:41.:44:44.

provided to support the borders of provision. Holistic model such as

:44:45.:44:50.

the Woodburn from the learning centre which looks at other services

:44:51.:44:54.

for children and families including speech and language therapists. I

:44:55.:44:58.

think the First Minister for that answer. She restated her commitment

:44:59.:45:05.

to expanding childcare and we share that game, but it is not the case

:45:06.:45:08.

that over the last five years, Scotland's nurseries have lost over

:45:09.:45:13.

900 teachers under government? How does you square that fight with the

:45:14.:45:20.

promises that she has just made? We are not just committed to expanding

:45:21.:45:24.

early learning and childcare in the future, we have expanded the

:45:25.:45:27.

learning and childcare and we published not too long ago the

:45:28.:45:30.

financial review of the expansion of that policy that showed that if

:45:31.:45:34.

anything, the Scottish Government has overfunded that commitment with

:45:35.:45:38.

local councils but, of course, we are working with local councils to

:45:39.:45:44.

plan the further expansion. And the commitment around extra teachers and

:45:45.:45:48.

graduates in nurseries in deprived areas is an important one, as is the

:45:49.:45:52.

flexible ability that will be encompassed in the expanded

:45:53.:45:54.

provision because that does give us the opportunity to look at different

:45:55.:45:58.

models of provision, such as the one that I cited in my earlier answer.

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There is no doubt that the key to solving this issue is early

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education and that is why it is important that we look at expanding

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not just the quantity of it, but it quality of it and the early years

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Minister Mark McDonald is focused on doing both.

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That said, there we have it, questions dominated by the Autumn

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Statement, we'll talk about that. Also on the issue of the railways

:46:28.:46:31.

coming up parties don't want to let it go, they aren't satisfied. Let's

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talk about that when my colleagues here. Ruth Davidson didn't go on the

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rail as last week but she was taken to the tracks today. She was.

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There's has been the big issue this week. The transport minister has had

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a very hard time. Really having a go at. It is quite a concerted attack

:46:54.:47:00.

on her. I'm not sure whether he's managed to come out of it all that

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well. He was being open and saying he wanted things to improve, and

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then he said later on it wasn't a bad service. To be fair, he said he

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thought it could improve in certain areas. I think it is something the

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government obviously need to do something about. They have talked

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about the possibility of having to bring back into ownership. Let's

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talk about that in a second. What did you make of the response today,

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publishing the action plan? She released biked Ruth Davidson's guns.

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But first question was, you have this plan for ScotRail, when will

:47:49.:47:54.

you publish it? In the next couple of days. It put her on the back

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foot. She wasn't quite adept enough to change. Mapoe. Which is a bit

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daft, there's only two answers, I'm not or I am. Surely there was an

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answer. I think Nicola Sturgeon will be signing relief because it went

:48:10.:48:14.

smoothly. You should be able to get the government on the back foot over

:48:15.:48:26.

a to, argue arguably brewer service. The idea of public control, it is

:48:27.:48:30.

not guaranteed, she talking about having it available. The next time

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this comes up, it will be the first time under the Scottish rules it

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will be possible for a public body to bid for that. But the government

:48:43.:48:46.

seems rather than a set of base shell entity which could step in

:48:47.:48:50.

where that to be required. It is an SNP pledge to take it into public

:48:51.:48:56.

ownership. However, let's look at the other Boltons, Network Rail,

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that isn't doing well. Is it a good idea? I suggest not. Where is this

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going? Will they persist with it. It is probably right, trains are

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difficult. You can't guarantee there will be a good train service. There

:49:17.:49:20.

were examples being quoted are problems this morning. If the

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government could sort it out, they would do. Public ownership is a

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popular policy, and I'm surprised politicians haven't been mauled

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bullish with that. We will talk with you again in a few minutes. Of

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course, the other big issue raised, the aftermath of the Autumn

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Statement, some sharp exchanges with the Conservatives. In preparation

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for thinking about that topic, I interviewed Derek Mackay, the

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Scottish Finance secretary, who will drop Scotland's plans, published on

:49:59.:50:05.

the 15th of December. I asked in his response to the ?800 million of

:50:06.:50:09.

extra capital investment over four years. I certainly welcome a fiscal

:50:10.:50:15.

stimulus and capital investment, it was one of the things the devolved

:50:16.:50:20.

administration was asking for. But let's put it into context, it is

:50:21.:50:24.

giving back some of the resource that was taken away from us. Let's

:50:25.:50:30.

talk about the revenue spending, there had been some anxiety in

:50:31.:50:33.

Scotland that in search of savings, you might pick this has meant and

:50:34.:50:37.

start again, with adverse consequences. That hasn't happened.

:50:38.:50:42.

It hasn't, but there is still ?3.5 billion worth of savings to be found

:50:43.:50:47.

between now and the end of the parliament. To the Chancellor is

:50:48.:50:52.

still to identify those savings, and they may well reopen asset

:50:53.:50:55.

settlement to impact in Scotland. I had called upon the Chancellor not

:50:56.:51:00.

to negatively reopen our settlement, but people will also remember we

:51:01.:51:05.

were told if we voted Brexit, there would be an extra ?350 million for

:51:06.:51:12.

the NHS. Well, not fun, not a penny announced as a consequence of the

:51:13.:51:16.

Chancellor's Autumn Statement. How do you characterise the impact on

:51:17.:51:22.

Scotland overall? We've learned the Brexit bombshell which has lowered

:51:23.:51:28.

economic growth, lower revenues as a consequence, higher borrowing and

:51:29.:51:31.

high inflation. That will impact on the economy generally and will

:51:32.:51:35.

impact on household budgets. There could have been a major move to give

:51:36.:51:39.

business certainty at this time by saying we wanted a reasonable

:51:40.:51:43.

approach and membership to single market, that hasn't happened, and

:51:44.:51:46.

that will have an impact, is the biggest threat to our economy at

:51:47.:51:51.

this point in time. We are where we are, Chancellor did not argue for

:51:52.:51:56.

Brexit coming he has to deal with the circumstances as he finds them.

:51:57.:52:00.

He stressed the underlying strength of the UK economy. Scotland has

:52:01.:52:05.

strong foundations but the oil and gas sector had been crying out for

:52:06.:52:09.

support, and there was nothing from the Chancellor on the oil and gas

:52:10.:52:14.

sector by way of tax relief or investment. That could support of

:52:15.:52:22.

the North East sector, as was support for front line services. By

:52:23.:52:29.

failing to tackle the concerns and the uncertainty around Brexit, and

:52:30.:52:32.

membership of the single market, that will give us a challenge going

:52:33.:52:37.

forward. That means, as he has admitted, lower economic growth. He

:52:38.:52:42.

said there is a capital simmers, there will be efforts to tackle what

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he says is an underlying problem. You've got to welcome these

:52:49.:52:51.

initiatives. I think Scotland was ahead of the game in much of this in

:52:52.:52:56.

terms of our position on Scottish growth scheme or innovation around

:52:57.:53:00.

recalibrating our economic strategy, wanting to do more around exports as

:53:01.:53:06.

well. We have a strong track record on infrastructure and transport and

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housing and on digital. I look forward to setting out more of our

:53:10.:53:15.

plans on the 15th of December. Finally, the change of timing, the

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budget to be in the autumn, if we get the full details on spending

:53:24.:53:27.

plans in the autumn, how does that fit with your timetable? When the

:53:28.:53:31.

Chancellor said that was going to be his last big Autumn Statement, I

:53:32.:53:35.

thought for a moment he was going to resign in the autumn. That is not

:53:36.:53:41.

what is happening, he is resetting the physical events in the fiscal

:53:42.:53:45.

calendar. That is a matter of the UK Government. It is fortuitous I had

:53:46.:53:48.

already worked in partnership with the finance committee to look again

:53:49.:53:55.

at our Parliamentary timetable. This parliament has been powerful, more

:53:56.:53:58.

fiscally responsible and we will look at the timetabling issues going

:53:59.:54:02.

forward to reset how we do our business to ensure how it fits with

:54:03.:54:09.

how the UK sets out its plans. He will have to deal with the

:54:10.:54:13.

aftermath. Let's look behind us. Some people behind us. It is the

:54:14.:54:26.

prostate Cancer campaign. Thank you for hanging on. The photocall was

:54:27.:54:31.

earlier, but a few other teams stayed on. Let's talk again to my

:54:32.:54:36.

colleagues, Ian Swanson and Lyndsay McIntosh. This question of the

:54:37.:54:39.

Autumn Statement. Let's talk about the statement itself. You heard,

:54:40.:54:46.

stop moaning, stop complaining and rejoice. Nicola Sturgeon not in a

:54:47.:54:50.

mood for rejoicing. Nicola Sturgeon was risking all the problems and

:54:51.:54:56.

explaining that despite the ?800,000, 800 million that will come

:54:57.:54:59.

to Scotland because of infrastructure statement, that

:55:00.:55:06.

despite that, it won't be a serious increase. There will be less money

:55:07.:55:10.

in Scotland. They had expected the budget to be 3.3 million pounds

:55:11.:55:21.

less, it will be 2.2. Nonetheless, he was going for it. He went for it.

:55:22.:55:27.

I think there's two things from that Autumn Statement, one is the Brexit

:55:28.:55:32.

bombshell. It is a grim economic news, there's no getting away from

:55:33.:55:37.

it. Some are trying to get away but, some conservatives are saying they

:55:38.:55:43.

are getting it wrong, not taken into account the changes Britain could

:55:44.:55:47.

make under Brexit, such as cutting tariffs. The OBR forecasting, they

:55:48.:55:53.

don't always get it right, they sometimes get it wrong. They've got

:55:54.:55:57.

less of an agenda than the Brexit years do. Regardless, bad economic

:55:58.:56:04.

news in there. From a Scottish perspective, it could be a lot

:56:05.:56:08.

worse. There's capital investment Ian has mentioned. There is a city

:56:09.:56:11.

deals we are getting, sterling coming on board. The current

:56:12.:56:18.

spending budget, which was one prospect, we shouldn't be cheering

:56:19.:56:23.

for it, but it was one concern. And aside from that, the Scottish

:56:24.:56:27.

Parliament has got a lot more power than it can use to mitigate against

:56:28.:56:32.

this austerity which is coming down the line. But not keen, Ian, Nicola

:56:33.:56:43.

Sturgeon won't replicate the effective cut for other rate

:56:44.:56:45.

taxpayers by increasing the threshold of the 50,000. It will be

:56:46.:56:50.

interesting to see how things work out because it was all well today

:56:51.:56:55.

being able to attract the UK Government for the cuts they are

:56:56.:57:00.

making. In the next fortnight or so, the SNP government will be on the

:57:01.:57:05.

back foot because they will have to defend what ever budgets they come

:57:06.:57:08.

up with. It is not necessary all going to be good news. You have a

:57:09.:57:13.

conservative attack of saying, stop whining and rejoice, but a labour

:57:14.:57:20.

and Liberal Democrat attack of pushing up the standard rate of

:57:21.:57:26.

income tax. There is that tension, because with new powers over income

:57:27.:57:31.

tax, which is an important part, a significant power the Scottish

:57:32.:57:35.

Parliament now has, it is important for the SNP, a big test whether they

:57:36.:57:40.

are willing to use these powers, or wherever they are wanting to not

:57:41.:57:46.

cause trouble. Lindsay, it is a question of balance in Parliament

:57:47.:57:49.

because the SNP don't have a majority. We are back to the days of

:57:50.:57:56.

2007-11, when they did deals of other parties together budget

:57:57.:57:59.

through. There is more of an oppositional stance. I can't imagine

:58:00.:58:03.

the Conservatives will be there go to partners. You have to think the

:58:04.:58:07.

first people they will look to the Greens, and as we saw, Patrick

:58:08.:58:12.

Harvie laying out this big shopping list of what he might want. Some of

:58:13.:58:18.

those he's got no chance over, the income tax I would be shocked if

:58:19.:58:22.

Nicola Sturgeon did much work that. It was such a big announcement. You

:58:23.:58:29.

pay higher in Scotland than you do in England on the other rate.

:58:30.:58:35.

Because of the Chancellor's changes. But she said, I'm not going further

:58:36.:58:40.

on the top and because of the risk that people believe the country and

:58:41.:58:44.

she did work on that. I would be shocked if she changed it now. There

:58:45.:58:47.

are other things Patrick Harvie are asking for, such as energy

:58:48.:58:52.

efficiency, perhaps something things with welfare, some of the carer 's

:58:53.:58:58.

allowance, that she might be more... Child benefit as well. Will this be

:58:59.:59:03.

tough to get a deal? Derek Mackay will have to do the budget talks

:59:04.:59:07.

treasure map it will be, and John Swinney was the man in charge the

:59:08.:59:10.

last time when they were in a minority situation, so he's not then

:59:11.:59:15.

now, perhaps he will offer some advice behind the scenes. It is

:59:16.:59:18.

Derek Mackay, and is eight big challenge for him. And a minority

:59:19.:59:24.

when the opposition parties are feeling aggressive in some ways.

:59:25.:59:29.

Lindsay, Ian, thank you indeed. The last time we were in the situation,

:59:30.:59:34.

John Swinney was a finance secretary and he did deals with the

:59:35.:59:38.

Conservatives from which they extract concessions and things such

:59:39.:59:42.

as business rate in town centres. It might be tougher this time, we'll

:59:43.:59:46.

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