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For the last four days Inverness has been the scene of the first SNP | :00:23. | :00:28. | |
gathering since their historic win in May's Holyrood elections. It's a | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
biggest conference the SNP has ever had, with delegates and journalists | :00:32. | :00:38. | |
from all over the world. A carefully managed opening scene | :00:39. | :00:43. | |
with all the SNPs on stage was followed by the First Minister's | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
opening address. And it was no surprise he wanted delegates to | :00:47. | :00:56. | |
enjoy the moment. Delegates, we gather here back at the Eden Court | :00:56. | :01:01. | |
in great spirits as the first majority Government, I will say | :01:01. | :01:05. | |
that again, the first majority Government in the Scottish | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
parliament. Alex Salmond enjoyed a joke at David Cameron's expense, | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
before calling on a higher authority to justify the old claim | :01:14. | :01:19. | |
at Scotland's oil. Oil, gas, which we now know will last for the next | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
50 years, we know it because the Prime Minister has finally realised | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
it and admitted it. Apparently, his geography teacher at Eton had told | :01:28. | :01:33. | |
him it would all be over by 2000. There's another advert for Scottish | :01:33. | :01:38. | |
education, ladies and gentlemen. So, we know and it's now accepted that | :01:38. | :01:43. | |
oil and gas will continue for the next 40 years, at least. Oil and | :01:43. | :01:49. | |
gas and hydro power and wave power and wind power and tidal power, all | :01:50. | :01:54. | |
of that unrivalled, and years and years of coal reserves if we are | :01:54. | :01:59. | |
allowed to mobilise them. We believe that the natural resources | :01:59. | :02:04. | |
of the nation, bestowed upon us by the creator of the universe, these | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
natural resources ultimately should be at the diposal of the people of | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
this nation and that priority, that people priority is what separates | :02:12. | :02:20. | |
us from our unionist opponents. Unusual signs of dissent surfaced | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
in a conversation about EU conversation but normal service was | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
resumed when the infrastructure Secretary Alec Neil, always | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
something of a conference crowd- pleaser, rallied the hall with his | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
characteristic firebrand rhetoric. And last week we actually got some | :02:36. | :02:41. | |
very good news that will help us in the independent referendum. Because | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
the UK coalition Government said that every one of their cabinet | :02:47. | :02:53. | |
Ministers is going to come to Scotland regularly, from now until | :02:53. | :02:57. | |
the referendum. That means that every Tory Minister is going to | :02:57. | :03:04. | |
come to Scotland, and every Liberal Democrat-Tory poodle Minister is | :03:04. | :03:09. | |
going to come to Scotland and every time one of them come to Scotland, | :03:09. | :03:19. | |
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we'll bag at least 1,000 more votes But when they come, let us ask them | :03:29. | :03:36. | |
some questions. When the Transport Secretary comes, let us ask her why | :03:36. | :03:41. | |
is it that the high speed rail train from London is going to stop | :03:41. | :03:50. | |
at Birmingham and Manchester, and come nowhere near Scotland? When | :03:50. | :03:57. | |
the Defence Secretary comes, ask him if it's still him by the same | :03:57. | :04:06. | |
time when they come, get him to go to Kinross and explain to the | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
people there why those two communities had to bear the brunt | :04:09. | :04:19. | |
of the UK defence cuts and all the job losses that go with it. When | :04:19. | :04:27. | |
the Chancellor comes, ask him why is he cutting our budget? Why is | :04:27. | :04:34. | |
there a 36% cut in our capital investment budget in Scotland in | :04:34. | :04:41. | |
the same time when he's raking in �14 billion a year from Scotland's | :04:41. | :04:49. | |
oil revenues? The last two years, in addition to all the other | :04:49. | :04:55. | |
arguments I have for independence, have found another two, two | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
grandchildren. I know it's hard to believe at my young age that I can | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
be a grandfather, but it is true. And what I want for Scotland and | :05:04. | :05:12. | |
for them is to be able to access the best education in the world, to | :05:12. | :05:17. | |
have access to the best health service in the world, and when they | :05:17. | :05:24. | |
grow up in their own country, not to feel the need they have to | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
immigrate to get the chance of a decent job and decent standard of | :05:28. | :05:34. | |
living and allow them to feel that they can raise their children and | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
their grandchildren in a Scotland we can all be proud of. | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
conference was about much more than what happened at the Eden Court | :05:42. | :05:47. | |
Theatre, it spilled out in discussions between members and | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
infringe events. On Friday the Daily Telegraph hosted a debate in | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
the city centre hotel. Raymond Buchanan was there | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
they came here to debate visions of independence, at the top table the | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
party's campaign director and a former treasurer. From the audience | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
questions about how this party can win with a referendum at least two | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
years away. I have friends who are not at all interested in politics | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
and I was visiting them last week and they were saying everybody is | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
talking about independence and Alex Salmond, how do we sustain that | :06:17. | :06:23. | |
until 2014? To help them win the party hierarchy are actively | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
embracing traditions, so an independent Scotland would keep the | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
Queen, still watch the BBC and have an open border. When people do | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
listen to that they'll realise this is what every other normal country | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
does in the world. We can have a great relationship with our 19s, | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
continue to have a social one owe all value, but we can also be a | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
normal country that makes the important decisions that affect | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
ourselves as individuals, as families and communities. | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
doesn't that sound like a lightweight version of | :06:50. | :06:54. | |
independence? Independence is your parliament being Sovereign to your | :06:54. | :06:58. | |
parliament can make whatever decisions it wants and it may be | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
there are a series of areas where we continue to pool our interests, | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
both with our neighbours and friends on these islands but | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
elsewhere in Europe and the world. The key thing is that our | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
parliament can make whatever decisions it likes, and that means | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
if any of these arrangements on the optimal in the future you can | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
change them. If that seems too strong for voters, the SNP have | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
another option. More powers for Holyrood, but not independence. | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
It's been called devolution max. It's not what delegates here want, | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
but it will be better than nothing at all. | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
With the consultation under way on whether to allow same-sex marriage, | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
a fringe meeting chaired by Alan Smith gathered a panel from the | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
Scottish youth parliament, and the campaigning group for lesbian, gay, | :07:44. | :07:51. | |
bisexual and transtkpwepbder -- gender people. The view of the | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
Scottish Government on the consultation is this: We tend | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
towards the view that religious ceremonies for civil partnerships | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
should no longer be prohibited and that same-sex marriage should be | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
introduced so that same-sex couples have the option of getting married | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
if that is how they wish to demonstrate their commitment to | :08:07. | :08:12. | |
each other. We also believe, crucially, we also believe that no | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
religious body or its sell Brants should be required to carry out | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
same-sex marriage or civil partnership ceremonies. | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
Scotland's recently published social attitude survey of 201061% | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
of Scots stated they supported same-sex marriage. Civil | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
partnerships are very similar to marriage in terms of the legal | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
rights afforded to the couple. They're not quite the same and | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
they're certainly seen as second- class. When the debate was opened | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
to a contributions from the floor, many of the most passionate | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
contributions came with a religious perspective. But although the | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
meeting was mostly attended by supporters of a change in the law, | :08:50. | :08:57. | |
there was a wide-range of opinions represented. Equal marriage is | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
about strengthening the institution of marriage, and the legal concept | :09:01. | :09:06. | |
of marriage and, frankly, the spiritual concept of marriage. It | :09:06. | :09:14. | |
is not about taking away from it. If we look at the bible and God's | :09:14. | :09:20. | |
judgment on homosexuality, I believe that whether our nation | :09:20. | :09:29. | |
goes forward to independence under the SNP, will depend what the SNP | :09:29. | :09:34. | |
does with this, whether we continue to be blessed by God and able to | :09:34. | :09:41. | |
lead the nation, or whether God's blessing will fall from us. I have | :09:41. | :09:46. | |
been married for 32 years and I have never understood why my | :09:46. | :09:52. | |
marriage had anything to do with a Church and not to do with the state. | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
I would like to propose that in an independent Scotland marriage is | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
something that is recognised by the state and thereafter can be blessed | :10:02. | :10:07. | |
by a Church if that's what the two people want. I would like to say | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
something to the churches, no one is imposing anything on the | :10:10. | :10:15. | |
churches. It is up to you to have that debate. But what I would say | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
to you is listen to your congregations. Listen to what they | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
have to say and I peek for my Church, and I know that a majority | :10:24. | :10:31. | |
of Catholics are in favour of gay marriage in Scotland. | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
The thing is, first of all, they go on about equality, equality, you | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
know, and between man and woman and we all have to have the same rights | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
and everything. Well, as what is stated homosexuals do have the same | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
rights in civil partnerships to tie the knot. They can get it done with | :10:50. | :10:57. | |
a Reg is strar -- in a registrar. That's it, it's marriage in all but | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
name. The Justice Secretary is no stranger to controversy. Events in | :11:01. | :11:05. | |
Libya last week were a reminder of the reaction after he released the | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing. And his planned reform of | :11:09. | :11:11. | |
the police has also been controversial. | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
We will ensure the maintenance of the outstanding police service to | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
Scotland's communities through a single police service. The status | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
quo is not an option. Let me challenge some of the hypocrisy | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
from those who opposed a single service. The Liberal Democrats | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
criticised reform that was taken to protect the outstanding Forensic | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
Science Service we have in Scotland. We have consolidated it, but | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
protected it. Ensuring not just that there will be state of the art | :11:42. | :11:47. | |
premises in Dundee, but a continuing service in Edinburgh and | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
Aberdeen. But what of the Liberal Democrats been doing in the | :11:52. | :11:57. | |
coalition south of the border? They're privatising the service, | :11:57. | :12:03. | |
lock, stock and laboratory. Their claims on the Police Service were | :12:03. | :12:13. | |
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hypocritical and they got the There have been some legitimate | :12:16. | :12:22. | |
concerns raised, but they are being addressed. We will ensure there is | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
neither a centralisation, lack of accountability or interference in | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
governance. Our police and prosecution service will continue | :12:30. | :12:36. | |
to serve as at home and abroad, the events in Libya in the last 24 | :12:36. | :12:42. | |
hours may be bringing one issue to a conclusion. But the Lockerbie | :12:42. | :12:47. | |
investigation remains a live inquiry. Police and prosecutors, as | :12:48. | :12:53. | |
they have done for 23 years, will take whatever action is necessary | :12:53. | :13:00. | |
and follow any lines of inquiry in the interests of justice. | :13:00. | :13:06. | |
In her speech on Friday, Nicola Sturgeon reflected both on broad | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
issues of being the party of Government and also on her own | :13:10. | :13:17. | |
specific remit of Health. The real one of our Government is that we | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
have the confidence, the conviction and ability to govern by the power | :13:22. | :13:31. | |
and strength of our argument and that is what we will do. Of course, | :13:31. | :13:38. | |
in the last Parliament, as a minority, we occasionally won the | :13:38. | :13:44. | |
argument but lost the vote. That is what happened on alcohol minimum | :13:44. | :13:51. | |
pricing. Labour's decision to vote down minimum pricing on spend to | :13:51. | :13:58. | |
this day. That vote, that single vote, said that if they cared more | :13:58. | :14:02. | |
about petty party politics than about the public health of our | :14:03. | :14:09. | |
nation. And no party that gets its priorities that wrong is fit to | :14:09. | :14:19. | |
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govern our country. I can tell you today that our minimum pricing bill | :14:19. | :14:28. | |
will be reintroduced to Parliament within the next month. I am so very | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
proud to be part of a government that has the courage to do what is | :14:33. | :14:43. | |
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right. Back last year, dozens of clinicians signed a newspaper | :14:46. | :14:53. | |
advert backing as for minimum pricing. Just last week, 60 leading | :14:53. | :15:00. | |
clinicians in England, speaking on behalf of tens of thousands more, | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
wrote to the newspapers pleading with the UK Government to abandon | :15:03. | :15:08. | |
their plans to privatise the National Health Service. Those | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
pleas fell on deaf ears. It now seems inevitable that the Tories, | :15:14. | :15:20. | |
aided and abetted by the Liberal partners, will break-up the NHS in | :15:20. | :15:30. | |
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England. Our country may not be independent yet, but thankfully, | :15:32. | :15:42. | |
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our NHS is independent. And let me make this very clear, the NHS in | :15:44. | :15:50. | |
Scotland will remain a public service, paid for by the public and | :15:50. | :15:55. | |
accountable to the public. There will be no privatisation of the | :15:55. | :16:05. | |
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National Health Service in Scotland. Delegates, for the UK parties, the | :16:09. | :16:14. | |
independence debate is not about the best interests of Scotland, it | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
never has been. They just want to keep control of Scotland's | :16:18. | :16:26. | |
resources. David Cameron gave the game away when he came north last | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
week to lay claim to the next generation of North Sea oil. Hear | :16:30. | :16:36. | |
this, David Cameron, it always was Scotland's Coyle, it still is | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
Scotland's oil and it is time that the Scottish people got the benefit | :16:41. | :16:49. | |
of it. -- always was Scotland's oil. Devolution has created anomalies, | :16:49. | :16:55. | |
one of which highlighted in a fringe meeting about broadcasting. | :16:55. | :17:01. | |
We mentioned going forward in terms of independence, where does the | :17:01. | :17:06. | |
Scottish digital channels than the light of all this? -- stand? Do we | :17:06. | :17:14. | |
want to maintain the BBC? People say, close it down. What is | :17:14. | :17:19. | |
important to people? It will be things like, getting EastEnders. We | :17:19. | :17:24. | |
need a clear statement about what we want out of the BBC if we get | :17:24. | :17:31. | |
full devolution and control. These are big questions. Part of that is | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
to have influence in terms of the licence fee, representation in the | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
BBC Trust, we have some concessions there. There are some things in | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
terms of what will be done in Westminster, pursuing some | :17:44. | :17:50. | |
amendments to make sure that we have, under devolution, a better | :17:50. | :17:55. | |
influence. But we have to make sure we have a range of choice on the | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
digital network to make sure that we have one alternative you. Within | :17:59. | :18:06. | |
that. -- An alternative point within that. | :18:06. | :18:12. | |
Angus Robertson, who masterminded the election campaign, outlined his | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
strategy to drive on a yes vote in the independence referendum. | :18:18. | :18:23. | |
will work as hard as possible in an unprecedented national campaign to | :18:23. | :18:33. | |
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secure a majority yes vote for a sovereign independent Scotland. | :18:34. | :18:44. | |
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CHEERING. So... LAUGHTER. We will start by | :18:47. | :18:52. | |
galvanising and motivating members and supporters. We will start by | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
working with the many supporters of independence with no party | :18:55. | :19:00. | |
affiliation and was of other parties. We will engage with | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
different sectors of society to raise confidence, optimism and | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
understanding of the independence case. We will reach out within | :19:08. | :19:14. | |
communities, door by a door, street by street, in the most | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
unprecedented campaign of globalisation and communication by | :19:17. | :19:24. | |
the SNP and in the history of Scottish politics. Already at a | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
national level, we have started the necessary project planning, | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
including research and brand development. We are Updating the | :19:32. | :19:38. | |
activate system to deliver the best computer support. We have also | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
started the necessary financial planning to properly fund the | :19:41. | :19:47. | |
independence campaign. And today, I am delighted to confirm that the | :19:47. | :19:51. | |
Independent's campaign has been generously supported by the late, | :19:51. | :19:57. | |
great Scot's poet, Edwin Morgan, with the substantial contribution | :19:58. | :20:04. | |
of �918,000, which is ring-fenced for the referendum campaign. | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
Following him, Finance Secretary, John Swinney, giving a flavour of | :20:09. | :20:14. | |
how nationalists plan to take on those who will argue that Scotland | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
cannot afford to go it alone. course, the forces of negativity | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
will tell us that Scotland cannot stand on her own two feet. Let me | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
give you a taste of what we will see about that. As the global | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
economy recovers from recession, all countries run a deficit, but | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
the UK deficit is higher than that in Scotland. In four of the last | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
five years, Scotland has run a budget surplus. The UK was in | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
deficit of each of those five years. Scotland contributes more to do you | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
keep in tax revenue than we get back in UK public spending. -- | :20:52. | :20:56. | |
contributes more to the UK. Scotland is contributing to the | :20:56. | :21:03. | |
United Kingdom, our country pays its way. The figure sure that, with | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
a geographical share of off-shore Resources, Scotland would be the | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
6th wealthiest country in the world, 10 places ahead of the UK. This is | :21:12. | :21:17. | |
the time it to put the wealth of Scotland to work or the people of | :21:17. | :21:25. | |
Scotland. Alex Salmond's keynote address focused on what he sees as | :21:25. | :21:30. | |
the achievements of his Government. He spoke about energy and made | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
clear his opposition to interference from Westminster on | :21:34. | :21:41. | |
the vote on independence. A good phrase, that humanity of the realm, | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
a concept developed in medieval Scotland to describe an idea of | :21:46. | :21:51. | |
community identity be on sectional interest. The best Scots term would | :21:51. | :21:56. | |
be the common Weal. It does not ignore the fact that, sometimes as | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
a government, we have to take sides with in Scotland as well as taking | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
Scotland's side, particularly when times are difficult, asking the | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
rich to help the poor, the strong to help the weak, the parable to | :22:09. | :22:15. | |
help the powerless. Right now, that focuses on jobs than the economy. | :22:15. | :22:20. | |
John Swinney spends every waking minute to encourage businesses to | :22:20. | :22:25. | |
grow and attract new country -- attract new companies to Scotland. | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
We have the most competitive business tax resumed across the | :22:29. | :22:34. | |
silence. 80,000 small businesses either pay no rates or have | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
substantial discounts. We know that their success is the key to future | :22:39. | :22:46. | |
job creation. We shall continue to or for a crucial incentives. The | :22:46. | :22:55. | |
Small Business Bonus stays in SNP Scotland. -- continue to offer | :22:55. | :23:01. | |
crucial incentives. But also, in the last few months, a procession | :23:01. | :23:05. | |
of major international companies have chosen Scotland as the place | :23:05. | :23:12. | |
to conduct business. The message has been the same, Scotland has the | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
people and resource to allow them to conduct international operations | :23:17. | :23:24. | |
from its Scottish base. What have the UK Government focused on? That | :23:24. | :23:28. | |
is why must we focus on jobs and investment? They have formed a | :23:28. | :23:35. | |
Cabinet sub-committee to attack Scottish independence. Cameron, | :23:35. | :23:42. | |
cloud, Oswald, Alexander work on a committee looking at doing down | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
Scotland while the youth -- whilst the European Monetary System brings | :23:45. | :23:51. | |
on collapse, whilst inflation is more than double its target. These | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
politicians wonder why be carried no conference -- while -- the | :23:56. | :24:02. | |
wonder why they carry no confidence. The message is clear. Stop | :24:02. | :24:12. | |
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attacking Scottish aspirations and start supporting economic recovery. | :24:13. | :24:18. | |
Scotland, our country, has the great history of energy resources | :24:18. | :24:27. | |
in Europe. On Thursday, I went to announce the redevelopment of the | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
great fabrication site. Thousands of jobs can be developed. Marine | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
engineering will come alive and the Highlands of Scotland. Today, I | :24:37. | :24:41. | |
announce another important development in the journey to lead | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
in wave and tidal power. A new fund to support Marine Energy | :24:46. | :24:51. | |
commercialisation. His words -- this will support the development | :24:51. | :24:57. | |
of scaling up devices currently on test in Scottish waters. This is | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
part of a �35 million investment over three years supporting the | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
testing technology, infrastructure and deployment. Scotland is leading | :25:05. | :25:11. | |
the race to develop off-shore renewables. Our nation moves up | :25:11. | :25:16. | |
another gear. The message is clear, in Marine Energy, Scotland rules | :25:16. | :25:26. | |
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the waves. In the way to Inverness, on Thursday, I noticed an outdoor | :25:34. | :25:41. | |
company called no limits. It is a beautiful idea. But it carries more | :25:41. | :25:45. | |
punch for the Scots. No limits to ambition, your courage, your | :25:45. | :25:51. | |
journey. It sums up the spirit of freedom that many of us take from | :25:51. | :25:55. | |
the magnificent landscape in which we wish for society and for | :25:55. | :26:01. | |
politics. It is the same spirit that was reflected in the world of | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
Charles Stewart Purnell. No man has the right to fix the boundary of a | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
march of the nation. No man should say to his country, you should go | :26:10. | :26:15. | |
no further. The days of Westminster politicians telling Scotland what | :26:15. | :26:20. | |
to do, or what to think, a Rover. The Scottish people will set the | :26:20. | :26:30. | |
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agenda for the future. -- those days are over. | :26:31. | :26:36. | |
Brian Taylor joins me. You can feel the electricity amongst delegates | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
looking ahead to the independence referendum. The First Minister | :26:39. | :26:45. | |
signalled he would be prepared to consider your Pope -- consider the | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
option of devolution max. How are some members feeling about this? | :26:50. | :26:58. | |
Given the extent of the prize, -- Given the extent of the prize, | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
which they have fought for for the whole existence, it would be | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
unsurprising that some people did not question this. I do think it is | :27:06. | :27:12. | |
only one or two. I was astonished by the extent of tolerance and | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
leeway given to Alex Salmond, given he is deferring their referendum | :27:16. | :27:20. | |
for a few more years. I thought there would be more than a party | :27:20. | :27:24. | |
saying to get on with it. We had Angus Robertson setting out in | :27:24. | :27:30. | |
great detail the strategy. He says, starting now, with independence | :27:30. | :27:35. | |
ambassadors going out to every street in Scotland, although be a | :27:35. | :27:40. | |
referendum being deferred, they are not wasting time. They are very | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
much focusing on the independence option, not the alternative | :27:44. | :27:50. | |
proposal that may be on the ballot paper. There must be a lot of party | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
members pinching themselves that they are in this position. John | :27:55. | :27:59. | |
Swinney said he first came as a teenager to an SNP conference and, | :27:59. | :28:04. | |
30 years on, he finds himself at the forefront of by the | :28:04. | :28:08. | |
independence referendum. Something he questioned would ever happen in | :28:08. | :28:13. | |
his career. The mood of this conference has been ecstatic. It | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
has also been contained and controlled ecstasy. People know | :28:18. | :28:22. | |
they still have to fight that battle. In the conference hall, | :28:22. | :28:26. | |
they are talking to the converted. It is now time to convince the rest | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
of Scotland. The rival parties will vigorously pursue the case for | :28:31. | :28:35. | |
containing -- for continuing the union. | :28:36. | :28:39. |