15/11/2011 Stormont Today


15/11/2011

A political programme focusing on the day's events at the Assembly and Northern Ireland Executive. Tara Mills is the guide through the corridors of power at Stormont.


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Hello and welcome to Stormont Today. Prison reform was yesterday's

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debate, but it's today's news as the First Minister threatens to

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bring down the assembly. It will not happen on my watch, let's make

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it very clear up. This is a matter which, if they attempt to bring it,

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I will resign and I will take this matter to the electorate.

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And has the quality of debate reached rock bottom in the chamber?

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I have listened to some rubbish in this house in my day, and I have to

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say that this morning probably comes close to beating it all.

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And joining me throughout the programme, Frances McCandless, the

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head of the Charity Commission. There has been plenty of criticism

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of the assembly for a lack of legislation since the election in

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May, but one piece of legislation that was passed during the previous

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mandate is now bearing fruit - the creation of a Charity commission.

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With me is its Chief Executive, Frances McCandless. We certainly

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had many years of calling for an Charity Commission, what difference

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t think you have made? We think now we are here the public have

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somewhere to go if they have concerns about a charity or want to

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find out who is or is not a charity. Eventually we will have a register

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of all of the charity is who, under law, qualify as being a charity. If

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you are approached for money or time or a donation or whatever and

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you want to find out if the organisation is bona fide, you can

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check on line. All that work is getting up and under way. There is

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a problem with the registering, what is the delay? We have had a

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delay with the legislation. When a decision is made, that will go back

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through the assembly and we will begin registering the organisations

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that want to be charities. We will have a clean register and build it

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up from scratch, in the meantime we are getting on with work and have

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put a temporary piece of legislation in place. All

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organisations that were given a charity number for tax purposes are

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now deemed to be charities and all under our jurisdiction so

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regulation is up and running. When we get legislation in place anyone

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can go on to hour website and check that list and find out if the

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organisation currently is or is not deemed a charity. Had he been able

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to take action so far? We had a number of complaints. Some more

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serious than others. The ones we have managed to close are the ones

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we were able to take quick and easy action. For example, if an

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organisation is doing something or not doing something, not thought

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malevolent reasons but from oversight will they did not realise

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what they were supposed to be doing, such as not publishing accounts, we

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are able to go to them, give advice about had to put it right and not

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use stronger powers than that to fix a situation. Now they are more

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serious situations than that. can talk about those later.

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Everyone wanted to talk about salmon today, it featured on the

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canteen menu and also on the question time menu served up to the

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culture minister. More on that in a moment, but we start with social

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development and welfare reform coming from Westminster. One of the

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key elements of welfare reform will be the transition towards universal

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credit and where there are undoubted benefits in one single

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payment, there are also risks involved with one single allowance.

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I wonder if the minister has any plans of how he may mitigate these

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risks, which will see people receive all their benefits in one

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go as the title suggests and therefore could lead to further

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debt and poverty, particularly given the lack of financial

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capability strategy here? I was discussing the issue of financial

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capability earlier on this morning. It is something that is not

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forgotten. The change to a single payment will bring change, no doubt

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about that. I think that part of the thinking that is behind this is

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to actually increase responsibility, financial responsibility, and that

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is a good thing in itself to teach people how to manage money. On the

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other hand, there are particularly vulnerable people, and I am sure we

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can all think of vulnerable sectors where the arrival of a single

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payment may lead to many not being used in a way it was intended,

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again a single payment means it is all coming to one person in the

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family and quite often enough family, I know in my case my wife

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looks after all of the finances, and in a lot of homes are a thing

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that happens. Who the payment is made to, all of these are a cause

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for concern. Moving on to alcohol controls and

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the cocktail lifestyle is not something the minister is normally

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associated with, but perhaps some other members of. I thank the

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Minister for his answer. I find myself somewhat edgy making a

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supplementary. Would the minister also agree that the fight against

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the misuse, if that is the right word, of alcohol should also take

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into account what are called cocktail jugs which can contain

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anything between a litre and 1.5 litres of generally none describe

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spirits which are sold in family type restaurants and nightclubs?

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The person who buys it has no indication of the amount of Algol

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contained and the effects of drinking it, I am told, are extreme.

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I don't know whether the member has a greater expertise in this field

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than I could possibly have. The issue of minimum pricing is simply

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one aspect of this, the other aspect is clearly around the

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promotion of, the sort of promotion of cheap alcohol in night clubs and

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so on. This type of thing is clearly irresponsible.

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Irresponsibility is the other problem that we do have. I think,

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in terms of looking at the overall package of measures that will come

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forward, that sort of thing should be taken into consideration. Salmon

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stocks are under pressure and members wanted to know how the

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culture minister would protect them. I wondered, could you detail for us

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why the wild Atlantic salmon stocks are in such a state of decline?

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There are a few reasons for it. The scientific evidence so far would

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indicate that the decline in numbers of salmon, particularly

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returning to our rivers, is consistent with international

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evidence which points out that things like Habitat migration,

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pollution and balancing predator prey relationships, ecosystems and

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recreational and commercial exploitation. There are concerns,

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also, on their own stocks regarding the survival rate during the Marine

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phase of the salmon going back into the rivers. It is the focus of

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research which aims to better understand the reasons I have

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outlined. In regard to the continuing use of the net south,

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the drift-net which are in use, particularly on the County Antrim

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coast, why is it that there has been success by up -- successful

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buyout everywhere else, there seems to be rabid of this box by the

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existence of the drift-net on the north coast? When is the Minister

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going to take action? I thank them member for the supplementary. As I

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pointed out to John Dobson, the issue in 2001 was that there were

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55 commercial fishermen, there are now sick speak. What I would say to

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the member and any other member, if he has any specific information and

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that was outside of the conditions of the licence that was given, I

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would expect the member to bring that forward so I can pass that on

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because these licences are regulated. If there is any sign of

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abuse or misuse, it is important to bring the information forward.

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Frances we have had examples where many has been donated to charity

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which has then been spent on something else, how can the

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commission and step in in that situation so that people can feel

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confident that the money they are donating goes to the place it

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should be? I can't comment on that example not having seen the details,

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but in general, the Commission has powers to ask a charity to give

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that information and if it is not forthcoming, demand it. We can look

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at their accounts, see where resources are going and check that

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they are being put to charitable purposes. The special thing about

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charity is that it attacks -- attracts tax concessions. The

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reason it is regulated is to make sure that the resources which are

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charitable are going in the same direction. So a charity must use

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its resources for a charitable purpose and we can ensure that they

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Jim Allister really put the cat among the pigeons yesterday when he

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asked David Ford about possible changes to prison emblems and

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titles. In fact, it prompted fury from the DUP with the First

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Minister threatening an assembly election. Here's what he told Mark

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Devenport. A I have had a series of meetings

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with the prism of the Duke. I have seen their report, there was no

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mention in any meeting I have had with them nor any mention in the

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report that there would be any change to either been named all the

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batch, so this came completely out of the blue. David Ford has never

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mentioned it to me so let's be very clear, he is badly advised if he

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thinks that this is something that can be done in an operational

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manner. The whole system that we built up, he might have got off

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with it on -- under the Belfast Agreement, but after St Andrew's he

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cannot get away with it because the system was set up to make sure any

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controversial matter would be put in the executive. I don't think

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anyone would question this is a controversial matter. It will not

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happen on my watch, let's make it very clear. If they attempt to

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bring this, I will resign and take this matter to the electorate and

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they will have their say. So you will blockade under any

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circumstance? It will be blocked. It is simply not on the agenda. If

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David Ward applies this to his present reform, something that is

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an inescapable part, then he will damage his whole project. If he

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does not want that to go down the toilet in is to reconsider. What

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would you say to those that say that when the police service has

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reform there was a change of emblem, a change of bad patch and uniform

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and therefore it is a natural part of anywhere formation of the Prison

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Service. By a posted them as I would oppose it now. They were

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wrong then just as this is wrong now. I think Peter needs to calm

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down. A whole issue of prison reform is of vital importance. That

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is one of the reasons why Anne and her team were involved in looking

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at why the presence this damp and coming forward with important

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proposals that will fundamentally change the whole system of present

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and how we administrator presence in the future. So, let's be

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sensible about this. Let's be very calm about how we deal with it. I

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think they should be no knee-jerk reactions. Do you think a major

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change? I support the proposals that have been put forward by Anne

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and her team. I think they understand that there is a problem

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within the service and that the Prison Service has to be a service

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that is accepting of everyone. Of all of the cultural and, you know,

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political aspirations of the community. It is to be

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representative and I think that as we go forward we have to deal with

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proposals in a very sober, calm and sensible way without any joking.

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Everybody knows that there has to be fundamental change and there is

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no stopping at. I think all of us Have the committee's soured badly

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in their relationship. Could the committee be failing in their

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material? Here is a weekly look at the work of the committees. We were

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copied in with regards to Letters to the Speaker and leeks on

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documents. The original letter to the first minister. That was the

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last piece. The last piece of correspondence. The first and

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Deputy First Minister wrote to the Speaker to stay there increasing

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concern about classified documents coming to the public domain. And

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they go on to refer to the needs for a climate of trust to allow

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productive business relationships to flourish. And also they refer

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took the leak as not assisting committees and assisting their

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statutory duties in the development of their policies. I had let this

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go to a certain extent, been given the tone of the letter, and the 10

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months it took to get access to the documents to which they are

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referring, that they were leaked, that did not help us in getting a

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climate of trust or fulfilling a statutory role. That is why I ask,

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because it has been pretty pointed from the committee and I don't

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think they included the people who had it. In fairness, the speakers

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responses robust. Three weeks passed and a lot of other people

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could have leaked it. There is a danger of conflating two issues. I

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would very much support due if the first and deputy first minister say

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they need to have good working relationships, maybe this is an

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opportunity to write back and say that one way we could improve this

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is by speeding up the delivery of information. Assuming this goes

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well and we recruit new officers, I predict he will have tens of

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thousands of applications. Because obviously there are very few

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opportunities I can think of, maybe next building work on the South

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Down, because there are opportunities, but can we have an

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assurance that that recruitment exercise will be done entirely on

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merit rather than positive discrimination. You can have an

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insurance that it will be done on merit. There is no proposal on any

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other way and I think the minister has been clear on that. A standard

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recruitment exercise? In will be a standard recruitment exercise

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following best-practice of the Civil Service. Obviously the basis

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of this is to reinvigorate the Prison Service in get new staffing,

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but also savings in the long term. What is the break-even point? How

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many staff do you need to leave for this to become cost neutral?

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Ideally, we need 360 to leave it to allow us to start for the

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recruitment process and refresh the organisation. Over the 10 years of

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the business case we estimate the scheme will save us �180 million,

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so in terms of investment it will cost �60 million and it is good

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value for money for the taxpayer. We are looking at around 360 as the

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break-even point. That committee obviously sat before yesterday's

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controversy unfolded. Is there some sort of "chill factor" stopping

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young protestants going to university here? The DUP and the

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TUV think so and want the Higher Education Minister to do something

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about it. An attempt by the Alliance Party to widen the scope

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of the debate, and get the Minister to address barriers to higher

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education in general, failed to win support. More on that in a moment,

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but first here's a taste of the debate. In terms of all enrolments,

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students that are domiciled in Northern Ireland, two and a half

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1,000 of them attended universities in Liverpool a loan. And nearly

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1,500 attend universities in the Glasgow region alone. Of course,

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there are multiplicity is attending other universities, Dundee,

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Newcastle, Edinburgh, Aberdeen. And throughout Wales and the north-east

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of England but when you have 4,000 students just in those two main

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urban conurbations of England and Scotland alone, we begin to see the

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scale of students leaving Northern Ireland. I have to say this morning

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comes close to beating all the rubbish I have ever heard. Just

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listening to Tom saying there was no evidence that the Department of

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Employment and learning had taken steps to counteract this so-called

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disparity yet no matter where we live today there is no evidence of

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the disparity of a cold house for Catholics or a chill factor for

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Protestants, even in the University of Ulster or Queen's University.

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The reality is that there are many complex and diverse reasons for

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students going to university of their choice. As a Unionist I think

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it is could that students actively partake in university through the

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United Kingdom. I would like to see them go and I would like to see

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them come back. He is wrong for people to underline the religious

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divide in the education sector. This can only have a damaging

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effects on the higher education sector. The message we must send

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out is that we are focused on having a world-class education

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training system in Northern Ireland that is open and accessible and

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this is critical if we are to have world-class economy is that, like

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we all deserve. Way you disappointed it did not come

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forward? We did not do anything to address the disparity amongst the

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Protestant students in Northern Ireland and the figures simply do

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not support that. There is a more fundamental issue which is the lack

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of Protestant working-class males a university, and in terms of

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educational under-achievement, that is a fundamental issue that the

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assembly needs to address and address with executive action. We

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need a Child poverty Action Plan and childcare strategy and see the

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Minister of Education bring forward an early years education strategy

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to tackle this at its root. So you were not impressed by the quality

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of debate and it fell on predictable lines. Unfortunately, I

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would agree with Michelle left. It was a missed opportunity to get

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into the detail causes of the problem of a lack of representation

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of Protestant males. How we offer support and insure that is open to

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everyone who can benefit. It is all about statistics, and one in five

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Catholics is likely to go to university compared to one in 10

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Protestants, so it's to be expected there would be fewer Protestants at

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universities then. The wider population of the age group is

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reflected at university but there is a particularly persistent

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problem of working-class Protestant males gaining access to university

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and achieving at post primary level. That has been well-documented in

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the past and unfortunately the executive is still failing Tabard

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joined-up approach to tackling the problem. Do you think it will be

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put on the long finger? I will be using the committee to commit to

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Child poverty Action Plan. And my colleagues in the education

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committee will raise the issue as well. While you're here, I hope

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that the facial look of the changes we see our for charity reasons.

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Strictly charitable purposes, fund- raising for Men's Cancer awareness

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and you'll be glad it will be gone by the end of November. Quite a few

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cropping up around the chamber. We are trying our best. With rising

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fuel prices and winter weather just around the corner fuel poverty is

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becoming increasingly common. Eight government departments are getting

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together to see what the assembly can do to help those struggling to

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pay the bills. Unfortunately there's seems little chance of any

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extra money, but Alex Maskey told me it's more than a talking shop.

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You can have the danger of falling into decline, but we hope that is

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not the case. We hope they are issues with payments that people

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are entitled to a man but we argue for those to be extended and

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increased. But that is only a short-term measure and there are

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other issues which are more long- term, but I can assure the

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listeners and viewers that this initiative taken by ourselves is to

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ensure joined-up government and scrutiny of how government delivers.

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We have come into this with the mandate and the big focus is the

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need to deliver for people out there. Sure this not have been done

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in September when you first came back so the measures could be going

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to people with winter just a few weeks away? We are obviously

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putting a spotlight on the issue. Some of the measures flowing from

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the discussion, some of them are under way. And we are very aware

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that there will be no quick fix. And some of them are longer term

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work which we are determined to see through. The finance minister,

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Sandie Wilson has talked tough to the big retailers like Tesco and

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Ikea. Where is the strong message out to the power companies whose

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profits are running to over 30 %? agree with Ian and I am not

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speaking for him because it is made up of all the ministers and

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different parties. The committee could send out a message. We have

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done and we have been clear that it is not acceptable that so many of

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us up unable to heat our homes, so almost like a monopoly of one fuel

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source, so we have to look for alternative sources as we move into

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the future. We have made it clear that a lot of these energy

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providers should be looking at how they make a contribution because

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everybody here is suffering. We've already heard from the First

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Minister about prison reform, but the TUV leader, Jim Allister, who

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unearthed the controversy in the chamber last night, has gone a step

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further, as our political correspondent Martina Purdy told me

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earlier. He has tabled a motion of no confidence in the justice

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minister, and to get that past he would need cross-community support

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and there is no chance of getting that. But if he can try and get

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members of the DUP and other Unionists to sign ahead of his

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annual conference this weekend. are one day closer to the long

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awaited programme for government. That is right. We have heard it

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will be a marathon late-night session tomorrow, starting around

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7pm. That programme for government has been much awaited and drafts

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have been bouncing around various departments and one leaked in

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September talk about jobs and investment being a priority. As

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well as finishing the programme for government may have to finish the

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investment strategy and there will be changes to that in light of the

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A five roads project been cancelled. If they can get that together as

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expected then the assembly is going to meet on Thursday to discuss it

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and so far we have had no indication that that meeting is

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going away and it is scheduled for Thursday. Fuel poverty, will be

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executive Dick we heard about that, so will the executive committee do

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anything? There was the prospective fund to direct money to direct

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money to needy families and develop Minister could bring forward a

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paper, and we understand it has not been put forward but it is only an

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issue for the government and it is one they will be looking at.

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Compared to some of the other commission since the Good Friday

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agreement you do have a slightly different role. We are a regulator

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who have been brought in to do a specific task which is to list the

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charities and monitor them to make sure they are acting properly so we

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can prop up confidence and so the charities can get on with their

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work. We have a targeted at specific job but has been

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successful across the political spectrum but also by the charities

:28:34.:28:40.

themselves. They are very happy to have scrutiny to prove the work

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they are doing. Thank you for joining us. That's it from Stormont

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A political programme focusing on the day's events at the Assembly and Northern Ireland Executive. Tara Mills is the guide through the corridors of power at Stormont, and is joined by key people from decision makers to opinion formers to make the experience enlightening and entertaining.


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