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FLASHING IMAGES. Good evening. The red flag has been

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sung. The conference is over, and the comrades have departed. What

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difference has the past week made to the fortunes of the Labour

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Party? The conference finished in its traditional fashion with a

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coalition-bashing speech by the party's Deputy Leader Harriet

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Harman and one or two bad jokes. Elsewhere, the Shadow Education

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Secretary, Stephen Twigg, discusses Labour's plans for, yes, that

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phrase again - a One Nation Labour's conference is the longest

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of all the three largest parties, and for those delegates who hang on

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to the bitter end there is always the treat of a rabble-rousing

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speech from the deputy party leader. It always used to be John Prescott

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but today that mantle has passed to the current incumbent, Harriet

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Harman. Hi, conference. I am Hatty, 62, from Camberwell, and here is

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today's news in brief - it has been a great week for the Labour Party,

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and a great week for Ed Miliband! APPLAUSE

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Now, I I've known Ed for more than 20 years - in fact, it was me who

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gave him his first job in politics, and, you know, when Ed worked for

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me, people always used to say to me, "You know, I don't know how you do

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it, Harriot. You're so busy with your work in Parliament. You've got

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three kids keeping you up all night, and yet you still make such

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beautiful speeches, but my secret weapon then was - I have to confess

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- Ed Miliband. And Ed, with your - with your speech this week, you

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showed everyone the qualities you have always had, your conviction,

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your confidence, your compassion and your courage, and when you told

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us the story about your family, you showed everyone why you have such

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faith in this country and such faith in the power of politics as a

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force for good. Ed, we all know you love baseball. You're a great Red

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Sox fan, so can I just say to you, you knock the ball right out of the

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park. APPLAUSE

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Conference, since we met last year, I've taken up my new role as shadow

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Culture Secretary, and I was lucky enough to go to the Brits. I had a

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great time - the wine was flowing. The music was loud, but I did that

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thing that politicians should never, ever do - I hit the dancefloor, and

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I suppose you're thinking, why is it that our deputy leaders always

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have to make such total prats of themselves at the Brits? And the

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next - you know, the next morning I really was mortified, and as I

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feared, someone Tweeted about it, "Labour MP in dodgy dancing cringe-

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fest." But the good news is it then said, "Honestly, you would think

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that Tessa Jowell would know better!"

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LAUGHTER And you know, you know something -

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people are always stopping me in the street and saying, "Thank you

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so much, Tessa, for bringing the Olympics to Britain." And I say,

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"You're welcome!" And we all want to say a huge thank you to Tessa

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for all of her years on Labour's frontbench as well as the brilliant

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job she did on the Olympics. And in my new role as Shadow

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Culture Secretary, you know, you always get asked when you're Shadow

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Culture Secretary what are you reading? Just the other week I had

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an awkward moment when a journalist asked me if I'd read "that" book.

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OK. Women here will know the one - the one about a sadomasochistic

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relationship with a dominant superior controlling a naive

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submissive, and I said, "Don't be silly. Of course I've read the

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coalition agreement." Now, now, as it happens, I have

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actually read 50 Shades of Grey for research purposes, you have to

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understand, but I have to say, I don't think it's very realistic,

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because, let's be honest - what most women want is not a man who

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ties you to the bed, but one who unstacks the dishwasher while you

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watch the Great British Bake-Off. Am I right? I'm right.

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So each and every conference has its own defining points. This is

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the conference here in Manchester 2012 where Ed fired the starting

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gun for the next general election, and -

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APPLAUSE And because of what Ed's done since

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he became leader, we are now in with a fighting chance of forming

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the next Government. APPLAUSE

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But - but we all know we still have a long way to go. We've got to

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fight the Tories. We've got to fight the Lib Dems. We've got to

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work as a team, and we've got to have no no-go areas for Labour.

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Because people all over this country are suffering with this

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Government. So many young people are finding it impossible to get

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their first job, and women are finding it hard to hang on to their

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jobs, and that's just the women in David Cameron's Cabinet. You know,

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Angry Birds used to be David Cameron's favourite computer game.

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Now it's his pet name for Caroline Spelman and Nadine Doris, but - but

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there is one woman who can always rely on David Cameron's unswerving,

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unconditional support - Rebekah Brooks.

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APPLAUSE And - and when it comes to the next

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election, I suspect women in this country will have seen enough and

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won't be giving David Cameron one of those famous second chances he's

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so fond of. And conference, what about the Lib Dems? They claim to

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be a break on the Tories, but they are nothing of the sort. They are

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their accomplices. They boast of the pupil premium - all well and

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good - but then they vote with the Tories for the biggest education

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cuts since the 1950s. They boast of taking people out of tax by raising

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the tax threshold - all well and good - but then they vote with the

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Tories to slash those very people's tax credits. They boast of a

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clampdown on tax avoidance - again, all well and good - but then they

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vote with the Tories for a tax cut for millionaires. Conference,

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people say you get did politicians you deserve, but no-one deserves

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Nick Clegg. APPLAUSE

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Let's will here about this - Calamity Clegg has propped up this

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miserable Tory Government every step of the way. It's no wonder

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Vince Cable is on manoeuvres. But let's not forget St Vince is in it

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up to his neck too. After all, it was his policy to treble tuition

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fees, so I have a message for Vince: don't bother texting Ed.

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He's changed his number. APPLAUSE

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We - we have a first-past-the-post system, and voters get just one

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vote, and we're saying to them, vote Labour. We're not fighting to

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be part of a coalition Government. We're fighting to win.

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It's always great to be at conference, but this week has been

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exceptional. This week, the game has changed. We know we have big

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challenges ahead, but we leave Manchester emboldened, enthused and

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with a strong sense of purpose. We have grown in confidence. We've

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grown in self-belief. This country needs a Government of and for all

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its people, not a coalition that plays divide and rule. This country

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needs a One Nation Labour Party and a One Nation Labour Government.

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Harriet Harman speaking earlier. Well, the big issue for debate

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today at conference was education, and we'll hear later from the

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Shadow Education Secretary Stephen Twigg, but first, what do party

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members think of Michael Gove's plans for free schools?

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Right now there are about 70 free schools open with plans for a

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hundred more next year, but what would Labour do with Michael Gove's

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pet project? Would they keep them or close them down? We wouldn't

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have introduced free schools in this way, but there is something

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being established in my constituency, and the last thing

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you should do is play roulette -- Russian roulette with children's

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education. So what's wrong with them? What's wrong with them? Non-

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qualified teachers, employment terms and conditions that aren't up

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to scratch, a curriculum that's all over the place in some cases, a

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little bit like academies. Michael Gove's free schools - keep them or

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close them? Don't mention the word Michael Gove to me. I am absolutely

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horrified of what he's doing. don't have to worry about a schools

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policy for another couple of years. What do you think about Michael

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Gove? I think Michael Gove ought to be in the circus. Doing what?

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Selling programmes. We're going to inherit a school

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system that'll include free schools. I am not going to tell parents good

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schools are going to close down, are we? They're already going to be

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there. Let's make them work for parents. I would say keep the free

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schools. I tried to set a free school up, but it was so political,

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it took a lot of effort because we were only a small community group.

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We had a building. We had a head. We had deprived children. We had

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need, but it was turned down. Wicked, wicked, immoral,

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duplicitous things. Can't make my mind up on that. Thank you very

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much. Looks like loads of you are party colleagues. Do you want to

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shut them down? Look at the difference. Yeah, I think the test

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is what's happening on the ground. And we have said that we think free

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schools are divisive. They're not what we would do if we were in

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Government, but in two-and-a-half years' time, if they're out there

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and providing great education and great results for people, that's

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what parents want, and that's what children deserve.

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Grab a ball, and you vote over here in the mid box, which is almost as

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legendary as you are. Shut them down - why is that? Oh, I think all

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schools should be local authority schools. They're all free schools

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anyway. After all, you go to a local authority school, you don't

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pay. Do Labour keep them or close them? Oh, I don't know. That's

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unlike you to not have a firm Well, I've heard some views that

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are strongly held, to put it mildly. Look at that - a massive majority

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of delegates want free schools to be closed down. The problem for

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Labour is, that's not their party policy. So not surprisingly, Labour

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Party members are against free schools, but does the Shadow

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Education Secretary, Steve Stephen Twigg share their concerns? Earlier

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he addressed conference. central challenge is how do we get

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our economy growing and creating jobs again? We're not the biggest

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nation, and so for a country like ours, it is smart to be smart.

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Education is a moral right, but it's also an economic good. The

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Tories tell us that they want high standards in education, but it's

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them that have put standards at risk. The biggest education cuts

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since the 1950s - teacher numbers falling and young people held back,

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like the thousands - thousands of young people this summer who lost

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out when their GCSE English was downgraded, and Michael Gove's

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response was to wash his hands of responsibility. So much for "We're

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all in this together." Michael Gove's message to young people is,

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"You're on your own." APPLAUSE

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It's no wonder that One Nation Conservatives don't agree with him.

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Ken Baker, the former Education Secretary, says that Labour has got

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it right on vocational education. The Conservative MP Graham Stewart

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says that Michael Gove's new exams are ill-conceived and incoherent.

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We, of course, know that Michael Gove is wrong, but even

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Conservatives now are saying he's extreme and out of touch. Labour

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will rise to the challenge of every young person staying in education

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until they're 18. As Ed said on Tuesday, there is already a clear

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pathway for those who do A-levels and then go on to university. We

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need a clear path for the forgotten 50%. That is why we're going to

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create a new gold standard vocational qualification for

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technical -- the technical baccalaureate. Michael Gove want

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narrow, elitist education. We are the party of One Nation education.

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Instead of coming up with a plan on the back of a number of, we will

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engage the experts in business, in education, young people themselves.

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Michael Gove has a plan for some schools. He has a plan for some

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pupils. Labour has a plan for all So, all schools with extra rights,

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and extra responsibilities, one mission. Raise standards for

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everyone. We heard from Bob Tizzard about the free schools, so let me

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say something about that. On one hand, some of them are good. School

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21, popular with parents, using its ground-breaking techniques to raise

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standards for some of the poorest children in that Borough. Labour

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cannot begin schools that drive up standards and a narrow the gap in

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life chances. However, there are serious problems with Michael

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Gove's centralised free schools programme. He really does think

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that the way to build new schools is to throw darts at a map, so

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whilst we have a crisis in primary school places, three schools are

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being built in areas with spare places. And unlike Labour's

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Academy's programme, there is no focus on schools under performing,

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no focus on areas of great social and economic need. I say engage of

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local parents, local communities, and you will not end up with the

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chaos and waste of schools that do not open or schools half-empty.

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Instead of decisions being made in Whitehall, we will restore a

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partnership between local and central government and end the

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practice that stops good local authorities setting up new schools

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And let me say this. Whatever the type of school, we should celebrate

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success in academies, community schools, all types of schools. We

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will put local communities and parents back in the driving seat.

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But, you know, what Michael Gove really wants to do is to introduce

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profit making schools. Let me be crystal clear. I will never allow

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profit-making schools in this The most successful countries in

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the world for Education see teaching as an elite profession for

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the very best graduates. We will have a new deal for teachers.

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Labour supported the teacher first programme, to bring the top

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graduates into teaching. I want to double that, the number of recruits,

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from 1,000, to 2000 a year, and then go further so it becomes one

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of the main routes into teaching. You know, it's heartbreaking to see

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the damage that the Tories are doing to education. But it's not

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enough for us to criticise. That's the easy part. We have to show that

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we will make a difference. We would help the teenagers whose GCSEs were

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downgraded. We would help the parents struggling to find a

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primary school place. We would help the forgotten 50%. One nation

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education. Excellence for Everyone. The comprehensive ideal realised.

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Live your dreams. Achieve your potential. Wherever you come from.

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Whatever your background. That is Stephen Twigg speaking earlier.

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Well, straight after his speech, my colleague Jo Coburn spoke to the

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Shadow Local Government Secretary Hilary Benn.

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A you going to do what Labour members seem to wanted to do and

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close free schools when you get into power? If schools are popular,

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they are doing a good job, course we are not going to close them down,

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but like a lot of members here at a conference, we have real concerns

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about them. First of all, they don't give the local community much

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of the save. Secondly, if you look at the pupils, they have half the

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numbers of poorer pupils in contrast to academy programmes

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which focused on areas of disadvantage. Thirdly, we have a

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primary school places crisis. We have them opened up in places where

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there's enough classrooms and, in other places, they find it

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difficult to provide additional classrooms needed for rising rolls,

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so those are genuine concerns that people have got. It is a part of

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the reason why Michael ago of has not done a good job as Education

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Secretary, because he wants to take the system back to the 1950s --

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Michael Gove. We have got to look after all children everywhere.

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about this one nation slogan? Is that what we're going to hear all

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the time? One-nation Labour? you say that again? Is that what we

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will hear all the time from Labour politicians? Well, as you know, Ed

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Miliband made a really powerful speech here on Tuesday and anyone

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watching that would have been left in no doubt about who he is, where

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he comes from, what he stands for and what a good leader he is, and

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if you look at what's happening in the country at the moment, next

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April, people on low incomes will have to pay more council tax.

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People with spare bedrooms will be penalised for having them, even

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though it could be where a carer comes to say, or their son or

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daughter comes to visit them. People were more than �150,000 a

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year will have a tax cut. That is two nation politics. We should

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think about the whole of the nation. What about going on a TUC march?

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Why is Ed Miliband doing that? It's a divisive. No, I disagree with you.

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There are people working up and down the country who are worried

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about the failure of the Government's economic policy,

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borrowing is going up. membership of unions is the lowest

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since the 1920s. You don't solve a borrowing problem by people being

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on the dole. We said use the proceeds of the auction to build

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100,000 new homes, and unemployment builders are taken off the dole

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queue. People doing the same job should be a different amounts of

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money in different parts of the country, they say. These are things

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people feel strongly about and that will be expressed in March, on 20th

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October, and it's right for everybody to join in. Workers are

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complaining about a pay freeze which you support. Being in

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government, life is about the choices you make. But you're not in

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government. No, but Ed Miliband has been clear about the choices which

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have to be made and if there was a choice between keeping people

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working, and restraint on that pay, Ed Balls has argued rightly so that

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that is the right choice to make. Keeping people in a job, that's

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better than more people in the public services losing their jobs.

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Briefly, since we had the story about rail franchises, many people

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believe they should be renationalise. Shouldn't that be of

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policy? We have to find out exactly how this complete disaster happened.

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Are you in favour of nationalising? Patrick McLoughlin said last week,

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the whole process was done correctly but he announced this

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week it's been a mess and will cost the taxpayer �40 million. Are you

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in favour of nationalising them? They should stop it, the East Coast

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Main Line. In the end, you will have effective regulation, but we

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want a successful railway industry. Are you in favour of

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renationalising the railways? will set out the policy in the next

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election. We are focusing on an effective system for running the

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railways, to get investment in new trains are. There's been a huge

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growth in that new rolling stock during our turning government. More

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people are travelling on the railways at the moment but you

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can't up the fiasco we have seen this week because the Government is

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incompetent. Thank you for that. Hilary Benn speaking to Jo Coburn.

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Well, Mr Benn himself took to the stage earlier to discuss the

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troubles faced by Labour councils. Let's face it, life could not be

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tougher. Councils have been singled out for cuts in funding which are

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not just, unfair, and intrude Tory style, the poorer the area, the

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bigger the cuts they are making -- in it true Tory style. All in this

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together, Mr Cameron? You have absolutely no idea what that means,

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do you? While up Helen Jones is fighting for a fair deal, for

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communities, Chris Williamson fighting for the fire service, our

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councillors are facing difficult and agonising choices. But with a

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quiet determination, they are making those choices not because

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they don't care but because they do care. To choose is to express our

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Labour values and to show that we can make a difference to people's

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lives, and while we may not be in Government nationally, we are in

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government locally, and gaining more councils and doing it by

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winning people's trust by showing that Labour difference. And by

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proving, when things are tough, we don't write people off, we stretch

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out a hand and we Polly each other up. -- bring each other up. The

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Tories push youth unemployment up and we provide apprenticeships. The

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Tories cut that affordable housing budget and attack the security of

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tenancy. Labour councils are building new homes. The Tories

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punished people are having a spare bedroom but Labour provides one for

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the pensioners, rail fares increase, heating bills increase, and the

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Tories want to drive down wages by paying council workers, public

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sector workers doing a job in one part of the country, less money

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than someone doing exactly the same job in another part of the country.

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It is shameful. What Labour councils are doing, they are doing

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their damnedest to pay the living wage. Who said Labour politics does

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not make a difference? Who said we are all the same? It is not true.

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Well, that's it from Manchester and from the Labour Conference for

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another year. At the start of this week, I said that Labour would

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judge this conference a success if by the end of the week we had a

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clearer idea of who Ed Miliband is, and what a Labour government would

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do for the country. I think they will have answer the first question.

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The speech was successful and he has a much better image now. The

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policy detail remains light. I'm off to Birmingham now for the

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Conservative Party Conference. I'll be back next week after Newsnight

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with all the highlights. We leave you with the singing of the Red

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Flag. Good night. # The people's flag is deepest red,

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