Final Debate and Analysis US Presidential Debates

In just a few minutes the final US presidential debate

Hillary Clinton Donald Trump will take to the stage in a few moments

up against each other. The last two debates they had have changed the

nature of the race. They have been fiery confrontational events and we

expect the same for tonight. It will be 90 minutes long, both of them on

stage with a moderator. No questions from the audience and they will

cover a range of issues from the economy to national security and the

character of the presidency. I am joined by Antony. The last two

events were huge debates on millions of Americans watch them. As this one

important? It is but not as so. Viewership is down for the third

debate and for the most part most people have made up their mind

already. Post to be polls reflect who they view was like as to who

they thought won the debate. It just confirms that what they believed

when walked into the debate. What is happening now inside the hall? Last

minute preparations. Everybody sitting down and ready to go. There

will be somebody from the debate Commissioner explaining the rules of

the debate. It is the routine here we are, thank you for coming, before

we get to the big event. Usually the families shake hands. This time we

have been told that the Clinton camp asked that that not be a feature.

The candidates last time did not shake hands although Bill Clinton

and maligning trumped it. The candidate is sort of just stared at

each other. I think that shows how nasty this campaign is. The Clinton

campaign we understand is that Donald Trump may pull some kind of

stunt like last time? He tried even more of a stunt last time. He

invited Bill Clinton accuses to the stage. They wanted them seated in

the front row so that when Bill Clinton came through and shook

hands, he would be shaking hands with women who accused him of

assault. That is one of the reasons they did not want that handshaking

to happen this time. Support Thorogood for both sides seem to

float around one of the Trump Sarah gets said that what he needs to do

is like he did in the second debate, he needs to go on attack rather than

get prickly and defensive about things like his tax returns. I'm

sure the issue of sexual harassment and the women accused of abuse will

come up as well but they were worried that he is thin-skinned and

gets drawn into defending himself. But definitely happened in the first

debate. We spend a lot of time talking about his relationship with

women and we got bogged down in that. He learned. He did learn in

the second debate and he was able to deflect and put the pressure on

Hillary Clinton more. If he continues to do that tonight we may

see more results. The debate is starting. Secretary of State Hillary

Clinton and Donald J Trump. This debate is sponsored by the

Commission on Presidential Debates. The commission has designed the

format. 615 minute sections with two-minute answers to the first

question and then open discussion for the rest of the section. --6

times 15 minute sections. I chose the questions and the topics. No

questions have been shared with anybody. The audience has promised

to remain silent. No cheering, no billing and no other interruptions

so we can focus on what the candidates have to say. No noise

except right now as we welcome Secretary Clinton and Mr Trump.

Secretary Clinton, Mr Trump. Welcome. First topic is the Supreme

Court. You both spoke at briefly about the Mac caught in the last

debate that I would like to drill down because the next president will

almost certainly have a least one appointment and possibly two or

three appointments which means that you will in effect to determine the

balance of the court for the next quarter century. Where do you want

to see the court take the country and, secondly, what is your view on

how the Constitution should be interpreted? Do the Mac founders of

words mean what they say or is it a living document to be applied

flexibly according to changing circumstances. Secretary Clinton,

you go first. Thank you to you and to the University of Nevada for

hosting us. We'll talk about the Supreme Court it raises the central

issue in this election, namely, what kind of country are we going to be.

What kind of opportunities will we provide for our citizens, what kind

of rights will Americans have? I feel strongly that the Supreme Court

needs to stand on the side of the American people, not on the side of

the powerful corporations and wealthy. For me that means we need a

Supreme Court that will stand up on behalf of women's rights, on behalf

of the rights of the LGBTI community, that will stand up and

say no to citizens United. A decision that has undermined the

election system in our country because of the way it permits dark

unaccountable money to come into our electoral system. I have major

disagreements with my opponent about these issues and others that will be

before the Supreme Court. But I feel that at this point in our country's

history it is important that we not reverse that marriage equality, that

we not reverse Roe versus Wade, that we stand up against Citizens United,

that we stand up against abuses in the workplace. The Supreme Court

needs to support all of us and that is how I see the Supreme Court. The

people I would look to nominate would be in the great tradition of

standing up to the powerful, standing up on behalf of our rights

as Americans. I look forward to having that opportunity. I would

hope that the Senate does its job and confirm the nominee that

President Obama has sent to them. That is the way the Constitution

fundamentally should operate. The president nominates and then the

Senate advisers and consent or not that they forward with the process.

Thank you. Mr Trump, same question. Where would you like to see the

court take the country and Hardy believes the Constitution should be

interpreted? First of all it is great to be here and it is good to

see you. It is so imperative that we have the right justices. Something

happened recently where Justice Ginsberg made some very

inappropriate statements towards me and towards a tremendous number of

people, the millions I represent and she was forced to apologise and

apologised she did. These were statements that should never ever

have been made. We need a Supreme Court that in my opinion is going to

uphold the second amendment, all amendments and leaving the second

amendment which is under siege. I believe that if my opponent should

win this race which I do not think will happen, we will have a second

amendment which will be a very, very small replica of what it is right

now but I feel it is absolutely important that we uphold it because

it is under such trauma. I feel that the justices that I am going to

point, and I have named 20 of them, the justices that I am going to

appoint will be pro- alliance. They will have a conservative bent and

they will be protecting the second amendment. They are great scholars

in all cases. They will interpret the Constitution the way the

founders wanted it interpreted as my belief that is very, very important.

I don't think we should have justices appointed that the side

what they want to hear or stop it is all about the Constitution of... And

so important, the Constitution the way out was meant to be. And those

other that I will appoint. Thank you, Mr Trump. We now have ten

minutes for an open discussion. I would like to focus on two issues

that could end up changing the existing law of the land, with the

judges you'll appoint. Secretary Clinton, use at last year, let me

quote, the Supreme Court is wrong on the second amendment. In 2008 the

court ruled that there is a constitutional right to bear arms

but a right that is reasonably limited. Those were the words of the

judge, Scalia who wrote the decision. What is wrong with that? I

do support the second amendment. I lived for 18 years in Arkansas and

represented upstate New York. I understand and respect the tradition

of gun ownership goes back to the founding of our country. I also

believe that there can be and must be reasonable regulation. Because I

support the second amendment does not mean I want people who are

allowed to have guns to be able to threaten and kill you. When I think

about what we need to do, we have 33,000 people who die from guns. I

think we need comprehensive background checks. We need to close

the online loophole, close the gun show loophole. There are other

matters that I think a sensible and that other kind of reforms that

would make a difference that are not in any way conflicting with the

second amendment. You mentioned that decision of the Supreme Court and

your reference that I disagreed with the way the court applied the second

amendment in that case because what the District of Columbia was trying

to do was to protect toddlers from guns. They wanted people with guns

to safely store them. The court didn't accept that reasonable

regulation but they have accepted many others. I see no conflict in

saving people 's lives and are defending the second amendment. Mr

Trump, the bipartisan open debate coalition got millions of votes on

questions to ask you and this was, in fact, one of the top questions

that they got. How will you ensure the second amendment is protected?

You just heard Secretary Clinton's answer. The ship as we do that while

you may disagree on regulation that in fact she supports the second

amendment right to bear arms? The DC versus Heller decision was very

strongly and she was extremely angry about it. I watched it. She was very

angry when it was upheld. Just as Scalia was so involved and it was a

well crafted decision. Hillary was extremely upset an extremely angry

and people who believe in the second amendment and believe in a krait

strongly were very upset with what she had to say. Secretary Clinton,

were you upset? I was upset because unfortunately dozens of toddlers

injure themselves, even kill people with guns because, unfortunately,

not everyone who has loaded guns in the homes takes appropriate

precautions. But there is no doubt that I respect the second amendment

that I also believe there is an individual right to bear arms. That

is not in conflict with sensible commonsense regulation and, know, I

understand that will's been strongly supported by the NRA, the gun lobby

is on his side. They are running millions of dollars of ads against

me and I regret that because what I would like to see is for people to

come together and say of course we are going to protect and defend the

second amendment. But we are going to do it in a way that tries to save

some of these 33,000 lives that we lose every year. Mr Trump, in fact

you opposed any limits on assault weapons, any limits on high-capacity

magazines. You support a national right to carry law. Why? Before we

go any further, in Chicago which has the toughest gun laws in the United

States, you could probably say by far, they have more gun violence

than any other city. They have the toughest laws and tremendous gun

violence. I am a very strong supporter of the second amendment

and I don't know a salary was saying it in a sarcastic manner, but I am

proud to have the endorsement of the NRA. It is the earliest endorsement

they have ever given to anybody who ran for president so I am quite

honoured by that. We are going to appoint justices, this is the best

way to help the second amendment, we are going to appoint justices that

will feel very strongly about the second amendment and will not do

damage to it. Let's pick up on another issue which divides you. The

justices, whoever ends up being appointed, it could affect that and

that is the issue of abortion. Mr Trump, you are pro life. I would

like to ask you specifically, do you want the court including the

justices that you will name to overturn Rosie Wade which includes,

in fact states, a woman's right to abortion.

I think that would go back to the individual states. I am asking you

specifically. If they overturn it it will go back to the States. Do you

want to see the court overturned it? You said you want to see the second

Amendment protected. What about this? If we put on another two or

three justices, that is what will happen. It will happen

automatically, in my opinion. I am putting pro life justices on the

cord. I will say this, it will go back to the States and they will

make a determination. I strongly support Roe v Wade which guarantees

a constitutional right for a woman to make the most intimate, most

difficult, in many cases, decisions about her health-care, that anyone

can imagine. In this case it is not just about Roe v Wade, it is about

what is happening right now in America. So many states are putting

very stringent regulations on women that block them from exercising that

choice, to the extent that they are defunding Planned Parenthood, which

of course provides all kinds of cancer screenings and other benefit

is for women in our country. Donald has said he is in favour of

defunding Planned Parenthood. I will defend Planned Parenthood. I will

defend Roe v Wade. And I will defend women's rights to make there own

health-care decisions. We have come too far to have that turn back now.

Indeed, he said women should be punished, that there should be some

form of punishment for women who obtain abortions. And I could just

not be more opposed to that kind of thinking. I will give you a chance

to respond. I don't want to explore, Secretary Clinton, how far you feel

the rights of abortion goes. You said the figures -- foeutus has no

rights and you supported a ban on late term abortions. Roe v Wade Lily

sets out there can be regulations on abortion so long as the health of

the mother is taken into account. -- clearly. When I was voted in as a

senator I did not think that was the case. The kind of cases that fall at

the end of pregnancy are often the most heartbreaking, painful,

decisions for families to make. I have been with women who towards the

end of the pregnancy get the worst news they can get, there are health

is in jeopardy if they continue to carry two term, or that something

terrible has happened and they have just discovered it about the

pregnancy. At think the US government should be stepping in and

making those most personal of decisions. --. You can regulate if

you are doing so with the life and health of the mother taken into

account. What is your thought on the matter? I think it is terrible. In

the ninth month you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the

womb of the mother just prior to its birth. Now, you can say that that is

OK, and Hillary Clinton can say that is OK, but it is not OK with me.

Because based on what she is saying and based on where she is going and

where she has been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the

room in the ninth month, on the final day, and that is not

acceptable. That is not what happens in these cases. Using that kind of

scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate. You should meet with

some of the women I have met with, women I have known over the course

of my life. This is one of the worst possible choices that any woman and

her family has to make. And I do not believe the government should be

making it. You know, have had the great honour of travelling across

the world on behalf of our great country. I have been to countries

where governments either force women to have abortions, like they used to

do in China, or force women to bear children, like they do in Romania.

And I can tell you that government has no business in the decisions

that women make with their families in accordance with their faith and

medical advice, and I will stand up for that right. OK. Just briefly...

No one has business doing what I just said, doing that, as late as

one or two or three days prior to birth. No one has that right. The

subject of immigration. Almost no issue separate the two of you more

than the issue of immigration. Actually...

LAUGHING. There are many. Donald Trump, you want to build a wall.

Secretary Clinton, you have no civic plan of how he wants to secure the

southern border. -- specific. Donald Trump, you want the locations.

Hillary Clinton says within 100 days, you will have a package of

pathway to citizenship. The question is, why are you right and your

opponent is wrong? Donald Trump, you go first and have two minutes

popular amnesty is a disaster and is unfair to the people waiting in line

for many years We need strong borders. In the audience tonight we

have four mothers... I mean, these are unbelievable people that I have

gotten to know over a period of years whose children have been

brutally killed by people who came into the country illegally. There

are thousands of mothers and fathers and relatives all over the country.

They are coming in illegally. Drugs are pouring in through the border.

We have no country if we have no border. Hillary Clinton wants

amnesty and open borders. As you know, the border patrol agents,

60,500, plus ICE last week, they have endorsed me, the first time

they have endorsed a candidate. Their job is to the. They know more

than anyone. They want strong borders. -- their job is tougher.

The biggest complaint, many problems caused by Barack Obama and Bill

Clinton, the biggest problem is her when, and it pours across our

borders and is poisoning the blood of our youth and plenty of other

people. -- heroin. We need strong borders and we need to keep drugs

out of the country. They bring the drugs and they get the cash. We

cannot give amnesty. Now, I want to build a wall. Everyone wants the

wall. If we stop the drugs, we fixed the border. One of my first acts

will be to get all of the drug lords and bad ones and bad people out of

this country that have to go out. We will get them out and we will secure

the border and once it is secured, at a later date we will make a

determination as to the rest. But we have some bad hombres here and we

will get them out. The same question to you. Are you right's is Donald

Trump wrong? I was thinking about a young girl I met here in Las Vegas,

Carla, who was very worried that her parents might be deported because

she was born in this country but they were not. They work hard and

they do everything they can to give her a good life. I don't want to rip

families apart and send children away from parents. I do want to see

the deportation force that Donald Trump has talked about in action in

our country. -- don't want to. We have 11 million undocumented people.

15 million people including the other 4 million. He said in Phoenix

a week ago that every undocumented person would be subject to

deportation. That means you would have to have a massive law

enforcement presence where a law enforcement officers would go school

to school and home to home and business to business rounding up

people who are undocumented. And we would then have to put them on

trains, on buses, to get out of our country. I think that is an idea

that is not in keeping with who we are as a nation. I think it is an

idea that would rip our country apart. I have been for border

security for years and voted for it in the United States Senate. Mike

Robinson plan of cost includes comprehensive security. -- my

comprehensive. But I want resources where they are most needed. Getting

rid of any violent person who should be deported, they should be

deported. When it comes to the wall Donald Trump talked about making, he

went to Mexico and talked to the Mexican president, he did not even

raise it, he choked. Then he got in a Twitter war because the president

said he would not build it. We are a nation of laws and we can act

accordingly. That is why I am introducing comprehensive

immigration reform within the first 100 days with a path to citizenship.

Thank you, I want to follow up... Let me follow up. I had a good

meeting with the President of Mexico. A very nice man. We will be

doing very much better with Mexico on trade deals. Believe me. The

NAFTA deal signed by her husband is one of the worst ever signed by

anybody. A disaster. Hillary Clinton wanted the wall. Hillary Clinton

fought for the wall in 2006 or thereabouts. Now, she never gets

anything done, so naturally it wasn't built. But Hillary Clinton

wanted the wall. Let me... Sir... Let me... No, wait a bit. I would

like to hear from... It is... I want to hear from the Gerry Plant it. I

voted for border security. A wall. There was going to be new technology

and how best to deploy that, of course. But it is clear, when you

look at how Donald Trump started, he started by calling them rapists and

criminals and drug dealers. And he has a very different view about what

we should do to deal with immigrants. Now, what I am also

arguing is that bringing undocumented immigrants out from the

shadows, putting them into the formal economy, will be good,

because then employers cannot exploit them and undercut Americans'

wages. He did that when he used them to build trumped us. And he said if

a complaint he would deport them. I want to get everyone out of the

shadows. -- Trump Tower. I don't want employers like Donald Trump

exploiting Mexican workers and undercutting American workers.

Barack Obama has moved millions of people out of this country. No one

talks about it. She doesn't want to say that. That is what happened a

big league. As far as moving these people out, we either have a country

or not. We are a country of laws. We either have a border or we don't.

You can come back in and become a citizen, but it is unfair. There are

millions of people on line doing it the right way. We need to speed

things up bigly. It is inefficient. It is unfair that someone runs

across the border and becomes a citizen. You have open borders under

her plan. You will have a disaster on trade and... We will... I will

say that President Obama has deported millions and millions of

people, just the way it is. We will not have open borders. That is a

great life. We will have secure borders, but we will also have

reformed. -- lie. The reason... Ronald Reagan and George Bush

supported our way. In a speech he gave to a Brazilian bank for which

you were paid $235,000, we learn from Wikileaks that you said this,

my dream is a hemisphere Common Market with open borders.

LAUGHING. That is the question. Be quiet, everybody. Is that your

dream? Open borders? If you read the rest of the sentence I was talking

about energy. You know, we trade more energy with our neighbours than

we trade with the rest of the world combined. And I do want us to have

an electric grid, and energy system, that crosses borders. I think that

would be a great benefit to us. But you are very clearly quoting from

Wikileaks. And what is very important about Wikileaks is that

the Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans. They

have hacked American, umm, websites, American accounts of private people,

of institutions, then they have given that information to Wikileaks

for the purpose of putting it on the Internet. This has come from the

highest levels of the Russian government, clearly from Putin

himself, in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have

confirmed, to influence our election. So I actually think the

most important question of this evening, Chris, is finally, will

Donald Trump admit and condemn that the Russians are doing this, and

make it clear that he will not have the help of Putin in this election.

That he rejects Russian espionage against Americans, which he actually

encouraged in the past. Does the questions we need answered to be we

have never had anything happen like this in our elections before.

That was an incredible pivot from the fact that she wants open

borders. Please, can we keep it quiet for the candidates in the

American people? Is she wants open borders. People will pour into our

country. They will come in from Syria. She wants 550% more people

than Barack Obama. He has thousands and thousands of people that no idea

where they come from we are going to stop radical Islamic terrorists. She

will not say those words and neither will Obama. I don't know Vladimir

Putin. He said nice things about me. If we along well, that would be

good. If Russia and the United States got along well and went after

Isis, that would be good. He has no respect for her. He has no respect

for our president and I tell you what, we are in serious trouble

because we have a country with tremendous numbers of nuclear

warheads, 1800, by the way, where they expanded and we didn't. 1800

nuclear warheads and she is playing chicken. Look... Come from

everything I see have no respect for this person. -- Vladimir Putin. That

is because he would rather have a puppet as the President for the

United States. Not a puppet. You are a puppet. It is clear that the

Russians have engaged in cyber attacks against the United States.

You have encouraged cyber attacks against our people. You are willing

to spout the Vladimir Putin line. You continue to get help from

Vladimir Putin because he has a very clear favourite in this race. I

think that this is such an unprecedented situation. We have

never had a foreign government trying to interfere in our election.

We have 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military, who have all

concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyber attacks come

from the highest levels of the Kremlin and they are designed to

influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing... She has no idea

whether it is Russia, China or anybody else. She has no idea.

Hillary, you have no idea. Do you doubt it? Our country has no idea.

He would rather believe Vladimir Putin than the people sworn to

protect us. Here she does not like Vladimir Putin because he has

outsmarted her at every step of the way. Vladimir Purdon has outsmarted

her every step of the way. He's me. I to as questions as well. The top

security officials of this country do believe that Russia has been

behind these attacks. Even if you don't know for certain whether or

not they are due condemn interference by Russia or anybody

else in the American election? Of course I do. Russia or anybody else.

Vladimir Putin is not my best friend. But if the United States got

along with Russia, that would not be so bad. Vladimir has outsmarted her

and Obama every single step of the way. You name it. Missiles. Take a

look at the start of the bayside. The Russians have said, according to

many, many reports, I cannot believe they allowed us to do this. They

create warheads and we cannot. The Russians cannot believe it. She has

been outsmarted by Putin. Just look at the Middle East where they have

taken over. She has been outsmarted and outplayed worse than anybody I

have ever seen in any government whatsoever. We are quite a long way

away from immigration but I will let you finish this topic. You have 45

seconds. And she always will be. I find it ironic that he is raising

nuclear weapons. This is a person who has been quite cavalier and

casual about the use of nuclear weapons. Wrong. He has advocated for

more countries to get them. He wants to know why we don't use them which

I think is terrifying. Here is the deal. The bottomline is that when

the President gives the order it must be followed. There is about

four minutes between the order being given and the people responsible for

launching nuclear weapons to do so. That is why ten people who have had

that awesome responsibility have come out in an unprecedented way

saying they would not trust Donald Trump with the nuclear codes or to

have his finger on the nuclear button. I have 200 generals and

admirals, 21 endorsing me. 21 Congressional medal of honour

recipients. As far as Japan and other countries, we are being ripped

off by everybody. We are defending other countries. We are spending a

fortune doing it. They have the bargain of the century. All I said

is that we need to renegotiate these agreements because our country

cannot afford to defend South Korea, Japan, Saudi Arabia, Germany and

many other places. Look, she has been proven to be a liar on so many

different ways. This is just another lie. I am just quoting you. There

is'. You will not find a quote for me. You said to go ahead and enjoy

nuclear competition. To defend yourselves. I did not say... And

defend yourself. The United States has kept the peace through our

alliances. He wants to tear up those alliances. I think they make the

world and the United States saver. I will work with our Asia allies. We

are going to move on to the next topic which is the economy. I hope

we handle that as as we did aggression. You also have a very

different ideas about how to grow the economy. Secretary Clinton, in

your plan government plays a big role. You see more government

spending, more entitlements, more tax credits, more tax penalties. Mr

trumpet you want government out with lower taxes and less regulation. --

Mr Trump. In this overview, please explain to me why you believe your

plan will create more jobs and growth for this country and your

opponent's plan will not. You go first, Secretary Clinton. When the

middle-class thrives, America thrives. My plan is based on growing

the economy, giving middle-class families many more opportunities. I

want us to have the biggest jobs programme since World War Two. Jobs

and infrastructure, advanced manufacturing, I think we can

compete with high wage countries and I believe we should. New jobs in

clean energy not only to fight climate change which is a serious

problem but to create new opportunities and new businesses. I

want us to do more to help smart business, that is where most of the

new jobs will come from. I want us to raise the national minimum wage

is because people who live in poverty, who worked full-time,

should not still be in poverty. And I want to make sure women get equal

pay for the work we do. I feel strongly that we need an education

system that starts with preschool and goes through college. That is

why I want more technical education in high schools and community

colleges. Real apprenticeships to prepare people for jobs of the

future. I want to make college debt free and for families and making

less than $125,000, you will not get a tuition bill for a public college

or university of the plant I worked on with Bernie Sanders is enacted.

We will work hard to make sure that it is because we are going to go

where the money is. Most of the gains in the last years since the

great recession have gone to the top. We are going to have the

wealthy pay their fair share. We are going to have corporations make a

contribution greater than they are now to our country. That is a plan

that has been analysed by independent experts who have said

that it could produce 10 million new jobs. By contrast, Donald's plan has

been analysed to conclude it may lose 3.5 million jobs. Why? His

whole plan is to cut taxes to give the biggest tax breaks and other to

the wealthy and to corporations. Adding $20 trillion to our debt and

causing the kind of dislocation that we have seen before. It truly will

be trickle down economics on steroids. The plan I have will

produce greater opportunities. The plan he has will cost jobs and lead

to another great recession. Thank you. Mr Trump, why will your plan

and create more jobs? Her plan is going to raise taxes and even double

your taxes. Her tax plan is a disaster. And she can say or she

wants about college tuition and I'm a big proponent, we are going to do

a lot of things for college tuition, but the rest of the public will be

paying for it. We will have a massive, massive tax increase under

Hillary Clinton's plan. I would like to start where we left. When I said

Japan and Germany and not just singling them out, South Korea,

these are very rich powerful countries. Saudi Arabia... Nothing

but money. We protect Saudi Arabia. Why are they paying? Immediately

when she heard this I questioned it. And I questioned Nato. Are they not

paying? Since I did this year ago all of a sudden they are paying. I

have been given a lot of credit for it. All of the stars Sao Tome are

starting to pay up. I am a big fan of Nato but they have to pay up. She

comes out saying that we love our allies and we think they are great.

It is hard to get them to pay up when you have somebody saying how

great they think there. We have to tell Japan nicely, we had to tell

Germany all of these countries, South Korea, we have to say you need

to help us out. During his regime, during the regime of President Obama

we have doubled our national debt. We are up to $20 trillion. In my

plan we will renegotiate trade deal. We will have more free-trade than we

have right now. Our deal is a horrible. I jobs are being taken up

by NAFTA, one of the worst deals ever. Jobs are being sucked out of

our economy. You look at all the places that I just left. Yukoner

Pennsylvania, Ohio, upstate New York, Florida, our jobs have gone to

Mexico and other places. We will bring jobs back. I will renegotiate

NAFTA and if I can make a great deal than we will terminate NAFTA and

create new deals. We will have trade. We will terminate it and we

will make a great trade deal. And if we can't, we will go our separate

ways because it has been a disaster. We will cut taxes, we will cut

business tax, they will start hiring people. The Wii will bring offshore

money back into the country. We will start the engine rolling again

because right now our country is dying at 1% GDP. Could I translate

that? You cannot. He is going to advocate for the largest tax cuts

you have ever seen. Three times more than the tax cuts under the Bush

administration. I have said repeatedly throughout this campaign

that I will not raise taxes on anyone making $250,000 or less. I

also will not add a penny to the debt. I have costed out what I am

going to do. He will come through his massive tax cuts, add $20

trillion to the debt. He mentioned the debt. Winner how to get control

of that. When my husband was President we want from a $300

billion deficit to a $200 billion surplus and were on the path to

eliminating the debt. When President Obama came in he inherited a

terrible economic deficit. He has cut the deficit by two thirds. One

of the wafer you go after debt and one of the ways you create jobs is

by investing in people. I do have investments. Investment in new jobs.

Investment in education, skill training and the opportunities for

people to get ahead and stay ahead. That is the kind of approach...

Secretary. We have tried cutting taxes on the wealthy and it has not

worked in the way it has been thought to. I would like to pursue

your plan because in many ways it is similar to the Obama stimulus plan

in 2009. Which has led to the slowest GDP growth since 1949.

Correct. Thank you, sir. You told me in July that the problem is that

President Obama did not get to do enough in what he was trying to do

with the stimulus. If your plan basically even more of the Obama

stimulus? It is a combination. Let me say that when you inherit the

level of economic catastrophe that President Obama inherited it was a

real touch and go situation. I was in the Senate, before it became

Secretary of State. I have never seen people as physically distraught

as the Bush administration team was because of what was happening to the

economy. I personally believe that the steps that President Obama talk

save the economy. He doesn't get the credit he deserves for taking some

very hard positions. It was a terrible recession. So now we dug

ourselves out of it, we are standing but we are not yet running. So what

I am proposing is that we invest from the middle out and the ground

up. Not the top down. That is not going to work. That is why what I

have put forward will not add a penny to the debt but it is the kind

of approach that will enable more people to take those new jobs, jobs

with higher wages, we are beginning to see increasing incomes and we

have certainly had a long string of increasing jobs. We have got to do

more to get the whole economy moving and that is what I believe will be

able to do. Even Conservatives say you don't add

up with your statistics. 25 million jobs. It is unrealistic. They say

you talk about growing the energy industry. With oil prices as low as

they are, that is unrealistic as well. Your response. I have left

some high Representatives of India. They are growing at 8%. China is

growing at 7%. That is a catastrophically low number for

them. We are growing, the last report came out, at 1%. It is going

down, I think. At the end of last week, they came out with an anaemic

jobs report, a terrible jobs report. I said, is that the last one before

the election, I should win easily, it was so bad. The report was so

bad. Look, our country is staggering. We have lost jobs and

businesses. We are not making things any more, relatively speaking. Our

products are pouring in from China and Vietnam and all over the world.

I have visited so many communities. This has been such an important

education for me. Dai Havard at so many friends over the last year. --

I have developed. They cried when they see what happened. Because of

the bill her husband signed and she blessed 100%, it is horrible what is

happening to these people in these communities. She can say her husband

did well. But boy did they suffer when NAFTA kicked in. It kicked in

after they left. Boy did they suffer. That was one of the worst

things ever signed by our country. Now she wants the Trans-Pacific

Partnership. She lied when she said she didn't call it the gold

standard. They fact checked and they said I was right! I will give you a

chance to briefly speak to that. Then I want to give it to the

economy, Obamacare, specifically. Briefly. Let me say, number one,

when I saw the final agreement for the Trans-Pacific Partnership, I

said it was not for me. I was against it. Does it creates jobs? I

will be against it when I am president. The only person on this

stage who has shipped jobs to Mexico is Donald Trump. He has shipped to

12 countries, including China. One of the problems we have with China

is the illegal dumping of steel and aluminium in our markets. I fought

against that as senator and Secretary of State. The Donald Trump

hotel was made with Chinese steel. He goes around with crocodile tears

about how terrible it is but he has given jobs to Chinese steel workers,

not American ones. That is not going to work. We will pull the country

together and have trade agreements that we enforce. That is why I will

have a trade prosecutor for the first time in history. We are going

to enforce those agreements and we will look for businesses to help us

by buying American products. Donald Trump. I asked a simple question.

She has been doing this for 30 years, why the hell did not you do

it over the last... Well... Excuse me, might turn. You were very much

involved in every aspect of this country, and you do have experience.

That is the one thing you have over me. But it is bad experience.

Everything has turned out badly. For the 30 years you have been in

position to help, and if you say I used to do this and that... You make

it impossible for me to do that. I wouldn't mind. The problem is you

talk but don't get anything done, Hillary. You don't. Just like when

you ran the State Department, $6 billion is missing. How do you lose

that? You round the State Department. $6 billion was either

stolen... We don't know. It is gone. $6 billion! If you become president,

this country is going to be in some mass, believe me. Well, first of

all, what he just said about the State Department, is not only in

true, it has been debunked numerous times, it is really an important

issues he raised, the 30 years of experience the polemic talk briefly

about that. You know, back in the 1970s I worked for the defence fund.

I was helping African children in schools and he was being sued by the

Justice Department for the scammer nation in his department building.

In the 1980s I was working to reform the schools in Arkansas. He was

borrowing $40 million from his father to write is Mrs. In the 1990s

I went to Beijing to help with human rights. He called a former Miss

Universe and eating machine. And when I was in the situation room

monitoring the rate they brought Osama Bin Laden to justice, he was

hosting The Celebrity Apprentice. I am happy to compare our experience.

I tried to help in every way I could, especially children and

families getting ahead and staying ahead. I will let the American

people compared us and make that decision. I build a great company,

some of the best assets anywhere in the world worth many many billions

of dollars. I started with a $1 million alone. I agree. A $1 million

loan. -- loan. I built a phenomenal country. If I run the country the

way I ran my company, even you would be proud of it. Take a look at Syria

and migration and Libya and Iraq. Look at what you did. She gave us

Islamic State. Obama and Hillary Clinton created the vacuum that

caused Islamic State. We should never have been in Iraq. Once we

were there we should have never got out the way they wanted to get out

to be she gave us Islamic State as sure as you are sitting there. What

happened is that now Islamic State is in 32 countries. And now she will

get rid of them? She will get rid of nobody. All right... We will get to

foreign hotspots in a few moments. But the next segment is fitness to

be President of the United States. Donald Trump, at the last debate you

said your talk about grabbing women was just that, talk, and that you

had never done it. And since then, as we all know, nine women have come

forward and said that you either great -- groped them or kissed them

without your consent. Why would so many different women from so many

different circumcise is over so many different years, why would they all

in these past weeks make up these stories? -- circumstances. And

because this is a question for both of you, Secretary Clinton, what

Donald Trump says your husband did and you defend it was even worse.

Donald Trump, you go first. Those theories have been debunked. I don't

know those people. I have a feeling that it was her campaign that did

it. Just like what came out today where I was wondering, what happened

with my rally in Chicago and other rallies where we had such violence.

She is the one that caused the violent. Her and Obama paid people

hundreds of dollars to be violent and cause fights and do bad things.

I would say... Those stories are totally false. I did not even

apologise to my wife, who were sitting right here, because it

didn't do anything. I don't know any of these women. I did not see these

women. These women, the wannabe plain... I think they want either

fame or her campaign did it. And I think it is her campaign. Because

when I saw what they did, which is a criminal act, by the way, where they

are telling people to go out and start fistfights and start violence,

and I tell you what, in particular, in Chicago, people were hurt and

could have been killed. That is now all on tape. It was started by her.

I believe, Chris, that she got these top of the table to step forward. If

it wasn't, they get their ten minutes of fame. -- these people.

But it was all lies and fiction. Secretary Clinton. Well, at the last

debate, we heard Donald Trump talking about what he did to women.

And after that, a number of women have come forward saying that is

exactly what he did to them. Now, what was his response? Well, he held

a number of big rallies where he said that he could not possibly have

done those things to those women because they were not attractive

enough... I... I did not say that. I did not say that! In fact... It is

her team in its. I did not say that! He went on to say, look at her, I

don't think so. About another woman he said this, that wouldn't be my

first choice. He attacked the woman reporter writing the story, calling

her disgusting, as he has called a number of women during this

campaign. Donald Trump thinks belittling women makes him bigger.

He goes after their dignity, there self worth, and I don't think there

is a woman anywhere who does not know what that feels like. So we now

know what Donald Trump thinks and what he says and how he acts towards

women. That is who Donald Trump is. I think it is really up to all of us

to demonstrate who we are and who our country is and to stand up and

be very clear about what we expect from our next president, how we want

to bring our country together, where we don't want to have the kind of

pitting of people won against the other, where instead we celebrate

diversity and lift people up. -- one. And we can make our country

even greater. America is great because America is good. And it

really is up to all of us to make that true, now and in the future,

and particularly for our children and our grandchildren. Donald

Trump... Nobody has more respect for women than I do. No one. Nobody has

more respect. Please, everybody. And, frankly, those stories have

been largely deprived. And I really want to just talk about something

slightly different. She mentions this, which is all fiction, all

fictionalised. Probably or possibly started by her and her, very sleazy,

campaign. What is an fictionalised is her e-mails where she destroyed

the do you thousand e-mails criminally after getting a subpoena

from the United States Congress. -- 33,000. What happened to the FBI? I

don't know. We have a great general, four stars, he will serve five years

in jail for lying to the FBI. One lie. She has lied hundreds of times

the people, the Congress, and to the FBI. He is going to go to jail. This

is a 4-star general! And she gets away with it? And she can run for

the presidency of the United States? That is really what you should be

talking about, not fiction, where somebody who wants fame, or where

they come out of her crooked campaign. Secretary Clinton. Well,

every time Donald is pushed on something, which is obviously

uncomfortable, like what these women are saying, he immediately goes to,

umm, denying responsibility. And it is just about women. He never

apologises or says he is sorry for anything. So we know what he has

said and what he has done to women, but he also, he went after a

disabled reporter, mocking and mimicking them on television. Wrong.

He went after Mr Khan, a man who died serving our country, because of

his religion. He went after John McCain, because he says he prefers

heroes that aren't captured. And he went after a Federal judge born in

Indiana that he said could not be trusted to trail the case against

Trump University because his parents are Mexican. It is not just one

thing. This is pattern a of divisiveness, of a very dark and in

many ways dangerous vision of our country, where he incites violence,

where he applauds people who are pushing and pulling and punching at

his rallies. That is not to a America is. And I hope that, as we

move in the last weeks of his campaign, more and more people will

understand what is at stake in this election. It really comes down to

what kind of country we are going to have. So sad when she talks about

violent at my rallies, yet she caused it. It is Ontake. The other

things are false. But I would love to talk about getting rid of Islamic

State and I would love to talk about other things. But those other

charges, as she knows, are false. Where the to ten days. Questions

from the American people. In 2009, it Secretary Clinton, you promise to

avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest with the Clinton

foundation. But e-mail assured the donors received access to you.

Donors looking for relief or hate his were considered separately. Can

you really say that you kept your pledge of to the Senate committee

and why is what went on between you and the Clinton foundation, why is

it not pay to play? Everything I did a Secretary of State was in

furtherance of the interest of our country and our values. Our State

Department has said that and I think that has been proven. But I am

happy. I am throbbed to talk about the Clinton foundation because it is

a world renowned charity and I am so proud of the work that it does. I

could talk for the rest of the debate. I know I do not have the

time to do that. But just briefly the Clinton foundation made it

possible for 11 million people around the world with HIV/Aids to

afford treatment. That is about half of all the people in the world

receiving treatment. In partnership with the American health Association

we have made environment in schools healthier for years. Respectfully,

this is an open discussion. But the specific question was about pay to

play. I think that has been very... That has been very well studied. And

it is a criminal enterprise. Please let Mr Trump finish. It is a

criminal enterprise. Saudi Arabia giving $25 million. Qatar, all of

these countries. You talk about women and women's rights. These are

people who push gay people off buildings. These are people who kill

women and treat women horribly. And yet you take their money. I would

like to ask you right now why don't you give back the money that you

have taken from certain countries that treat certain groups of people

so horribly? Why do you return the money? I think that would be a great

gesture. She takes a tremendous amount of money and you have a look

at the people of Haiti. I was in Little Haiti the other day in

Florida and I want to tell you that they hate the Clintons because what

has happened in Haiti with the Clinton foundation is a disgrace.

And you know it and they know it and everybody knows it. Secretary

Clinton. We at the foundation spent 90% of all the money that is donated

on behalf of programmes of people around the world and in our own

country. I am very proud of that. We have the highest rating from the

watchdogs that follow foundations. And I would be happy to compare what

we do with the Trump foundation which took money from other people

and purchased a 6-foot portrait of Donald. Who does that? When it comes

to Haiti, Haiti is the poorest country in our hemisphere. The

earthquake and the Hurricane aims it has devastated Haiti. Ill and I have

been involved in trying to help Haiti for many years. The Clinton

foundation raised $30 million to help Haiti after the catastrophic

earthquake and all of the terrible problems that people they have. We

have done things to help small businesses, agriculture is so much

else. We will keep working to help Haiti because it is an important

part of the American experience. They don't want help any more. I

would like to mention one thing. The Trump foundation is a small

foundation. People contribute, I contribute. 100% of our money goes

to charities including military charity. I don't buy votes, I don't

buy planes. The money goes on... Wasn't for the money used to settle

your lawsuit? No. We put up the American flag and that is it. We

fought for the ride on the Palm Beach to put up the American flag.

The county imposed a penalty. You are paying that out of your

foundation? The money went to fish a house where they build houses, that

money went to fish a house where they build houses for veterans. Of

course there is no way we can know whether any of that is true because

he has not released his tax returns. He is the first candidate to run for

president in the last 40 years was not released his tax returns. So

anything he says about charity or anything else cannot be proved. You

can see a tax returns, we have put them out there. What is troubling is

that we learned in the last debate he has not paid a penny in federal

income tax. We were talking about immigrants a few minutes ago, Chris.

Yeah, half of all immigrants, undocumented immigrants in our

country actually paid totalling contacts. We have undocumented

immigrants in America who are paying more federal income tax than a

billion now. Let me tell you very simply. We are entitled because of

the laws that people like her past to take massive amounts of

depreciation on other charges so we do it. And all of your donors, just

about all of them, at another George Soros who took hundreds of millions

of dollars. Let me just explain. All of her donors, most of her donors

have done the same thing. And you now what she should have done? What

you should have done, you should have changed the law when you were a

senator. Your donors are your special interest are doing the same

interest as I do except even more so. You should have changed the law

but you will not change the law because you taken so much money. I

sat in my apartment today on a very beautiful hotel down the street made

with Chinese steel. . Made with Chinese still, it was. I watched out

after ad made by your friends on Wall Street attacking me because

they know you are going to protect them. If you don't like Watto you

should have changed the law. Let me ask you one last question. You have

been warning at rallies recently that this election is rigged and

that Hillary Clinton is in the process of trying to steal it from

you. You're running mate pledged on Sunday that he and you, his words,

will absolutely accept the result of this election. Today your daughter

said the same thing. I want to ask you hear on this stage tonight, do

you make the same promise that you will absolutely accept the result of

this election? I will look at it at the time. I am not looking at

anything now, I will look at it at that time. What I have seen is so

bad. First of all, the media is so dishonest and soap that corrupt and

that Taiwan is so amazing that the New York Times wrote an article

about it. They don't even care. They have poison the minds of the voters.

Unfortunately for them I think the voters are seeing through it. We

will find out on November eight but I think they see through it. Excuse

me, Chris. If you look at your voter rolls you will see millions of

people that are registered to vote, millions. This is not coming from

me, this is coming from here report and other places. Millions of people

registered to vote on who should not be registered to vote. So let me

just give you one other thing. I speak about the corrupt media, I

talk about millions of people. One other thing. She should not be

allowed to run. She is guilty of a very, very serious crime. She should

not be allowed to run. And just in that respect I say it is rigged. She

should never, Chris, she should never have been allowed to run for

the presidency based on what she did with e-mail 's and so many other

things. There is a tradition in this country, one of the pride of this

country, is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how the

hardfought campaign is that at the end of the campaign the loser

concedes to the winner, not saying that you necessarily will be the

loser all the winner, but that deal loser concedes to the winner and

that the country comes together in parts of the country. Are you saying

you are not prepared now to do that? I will tell you at the time. I will

keep you in suspense. May I respond? That is horrifying. Everytime Donald

thinks things are not going his direction he claims, whatever it is

is ringed against him. The FBI conducted a year-long investigation

into my e-mail 's and concluded there was no case. He said the FBI

was rigged. He lost the Iowa caucus and the Wisconsin primary. He said

the Republican primary was rigged against him. And then Trump

university gets food. He claims the court system and the Federal judges

are rigged against him. -- Trump university gets sued. At one point

he did not get an Emmy and he started tweeting that the enemies

were rigged. -- the enemy the Emmy awards were rigged. That is not the

way our democracy works. We have been around for 240 years and that's

free and fair elections. You have accepted election outcomes and that

is what must be expected of anybody standing on a debate stage during a

general election. President Obama said the other day when you are

whining let us hold on, folks. It shows that you are not up to doing

the job. Let's be clear about what he is saying. He is denigrating, he

is talking down our democracy and I for one am appalled that somebody's

who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind

of position. What the FBI did and what the Department of Justice did

including meeting with her husband, the attorney general in the back of

an aeroplane on the tarmac in Arizona, I think it is disgraceful.

I think it is a disgrace. We had a situation... Hold on, folks. This

does not do any good for anybody. Let's move on to the subject of

foreign hotspots. The Iraqi offensive to take back Motorschool

has begun. -- Mosul. The question then is what happens the day after

this succeeds. Whoever becomes president will need to confront

this. Will you put US troops into that vacuum to make sure that Isis

does not return or is replaced by something worse? Secretary Clinton,

you are first full. I am encouraged that there is an effort led by the

Iraqi army, supported by Kurdish forces and also given the help and

advice from the number of special forces and other Americans on the

ground but I will not support putting American soldiers into Iraq

as an occupying force. I don't think that is in our interest and I don't

think that would be smart to do. In fact I think that would be a big red

flags waving for Isis to reconstitute itself. The goal here

is to take back Mosul. It will be a hard fight and I have no illusions

about that and then continue to press into Syria to begin to take

back and move on the Isis headquarters of Raqqa. I hope that

the hard work of American military advisers will pay off and we will

see a successful military operations. But we know we have got

a lot of work to do. Syria will remain a hotbed of terrorism as long

as the civil war aided and abetted by the Iranians and the Russians

continues. So I have said, look, we need to keep our eye on Isis. That

is why I want an intelligence surge of that protects us here at home. We

need to go after them from the air, online, on the ground. We need to

make sure here in time we do not allow terrorists to buy weapons. If

you are too dangerous to fly you are too dangerous to purchase a gun. And

I will continue to push for a no-fly zone and safe havens within Syria

not only to help protect the Syrians and present the constant flow of

refugees but to frankly gain similar bridge on both the Syrian government

and the Russian so that perhaps we can have the kind of serious

negotiation necessary to bring the conflict to an end and go forward on

the political Trail. Same question, Mr Trump. If we are able to push

Isis out of Mosul would you be willing to pull US troops in there

to prevent their return? It is so sad. We had Mosul. When she left,

when she took everybody else out we lost Mosul. The problem with Mosul

and what they wanted to do was they wanted to get the leaders of Isis

who they sold were in Mosul. About three months ago I started reading

that they wanted to get the leaders. And they were going to attack Mosul.

Whatever happened to the element of surprise? We announce we are going

after Mosul. I have been reading about that now for three months.

They already left. They all left. The element of surprise, Douglas

MacArthur, George Patton, spinning in their graves when they see the

stupidity of our country. We are now fighting for Mosul, that we had. All

she had to do was stay there. Now we are going in again. The big winner

in Mosul after we eventually get it, the only reason they did it is

because she is running for the office of president. They want to

look tough. They want to look good. They violated the redline the sand

and made so many mistakes. That is why we have the great migration. She

wanted to look good for the election. But who is going to get

Mosul? We will take it eventually. By the way, if you look at what

happened, far more difficult than they thought. Final tougher, far

more difficult. But the leaders we wanted to get are all gone because

they are smart. They said what do we need this for? Don't Mosul is going

to be a wonderful thing and Iran should ride is a letter of thank

you. The stupidest deal of all time, a deal that is going to give you run

absolutely nuclear weapons. Iran write as yet another letter saying

thank you very much. Because in round, as I said many years ago, a

round is taking over Iraq. Something they had wanted to do for ever but

now we have made it easy for them. We are able to take most will and

you know who will be the beneficiary area? Iran?. They are outsmarting...

You are not there, you may be involved in that decision but you

were there when you took everybody out of Mosul and out of Iraq. You

should have been in a rap that you did vote for it. Once you were in

Iraq you shouldn't have never left. The point is the big threat is going

to be Iran. Once again Donald Trump is saying he

did not support the invasion of Iraq. Wrong. He clearly supported

it. Everyone, go Google Donald Trump and Iraq. You will see the dozens of

sources which verify that he was for the invasion of Iraq. Wrong. Over

you can actually hear the audio of that. -- you can. Why is that

matter? He has not told the truth. He wants to look better in contrast

with me because I did vote for it. What is important is to understand

the interplay. Mosul is a Sunni city on the border with Syria. And, yes,

we do need to go against Baghdad in are that -- al-Baghdadi likely went

after Osama Bin Laden. But we need to get rid of their fighters in

Mosul. It will be a tough fight. I think we can take back Mosul and

then move on into Syria to take back Raqqa. This is what we have to do. I

am just amazed that it seems to think the Iraqi government and our

allies and everyone else launched the attack on Mosul to help me in

this election. But that is how Donald Trump thinks. He is all is

looking for something... We don't need anything. Iran is taking over

Iraq. Secretary Clinton... Iran is taking over Iraq. They would have...

Wait, wait. It is an open discussion. And he says... Secretary

Clinton, let them finish... Everytime. Wikileaks. Wikileaks just

said some horrible things about you. And boy was the right. Wiki leaks

said some beauties. Bernie Sanders was right. All the leaders are gone.

If you think that is... Bernie Sanders said he had bad judgement. I

agree with you on. You should ask him who he is supporting the

president. He said you are the most dangerous person to run for

president in the modern history of America. I think he is right up by

the LAUGHING. Let us turn to Aleppo.

Donald Trump, in the last date you were both asked about Aleppo. Are

want to follow up on that. You said several things in that debate that

will not true. You said Aleppo has basically fallen. In fact, there

are... It is a catastrophe. Have you seen it? Have you seen it? Have you

seen what happened to Aleppo? Can I finish my question? Take a look at

it. 11 million people are being slaughtered. That is right. Because

of bad decisions. If I may just finished. And you also said that

Islamic State are being fought against. You said that Aleppo is

being bombed. They announced a humanitarian issue, admitting they

have been bombed. Aleppo is a disaster. It is a humanitarian

nightmare. But it has fallen from any standpoint. Do you need a signed

document? Look at it. It is so sad what has happened. A lot of this is

because of Hillary Clinton. Because what happened is by fighting Bashar

al-Assad, who was tougher than she thought, now she will say, he loves

Bashar al-Assad, but he is tougher and smarter than her and Obama. Ever

140 was gone two years ago, three years ago. -- everyone thought he

was. He aligned with Russia and Iran. We made them powerful. We gave

them $150 billion back. $1.7 billion in cash. I mean cash. Bundles of

cash as big as this stage. $1.7 billion. Now, they have lied, and he

has aligned with Russia and Iran. Day don't want Islamic State. They

have other things. We are backing rebels. We don't know who the rebels

us. We are giving them lots of money and of everything. We don't know

through the rebels are. And when and if, and it won't happen, because of

Russia and Iran, but if SAFA did over the row Bashar al-Assad, we

might get aid worse person. -- but if they ever did get rid of Bashar.

This is what has caused the great migration, where she is taking in

tens of thousands of Syrian refugees. In many cases they are

aligned with Islamic State. And we have them in our country! This will

be the great Trojan horse. Wait until you see what happens in the

coming years. Thank you for doing such a great job, Hillary Clinton!

Secretary Clinton, detoxed about in the last debate and again today you

would impose a no-fly zone. -- you talked. President Obama has refused

to do that because he feels it will draw us closer into the conflict.

The chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff says that a no-fly zone will

bring us into a wall, his words, with Syria and Russia. So the

question I have is, if you impose a no-fly zone, how do you respond to

concerns, and if you impose a no-fly zone and a Russian plane violates

that, does President Clinton shoot that plane down? First of all, I

think a no-fly zone good save lives and hasten the end of the conflict.

I am aware of the ledger, the concerns you have expressed from

both the president and the general. -- legitimate. This would not be

done on the first day. It would take negotiation. We would have to make

it clear to the Russians and Syrians that the purpose is to provide safe

zones on the ground. Millions of people have left Syria. Those

millions of people inside Syria who have been dislocated. So I think we

could strike a deal and make it very clear to the Russians and the

Syrians that this was something that we believe is in the best interests

of those on the ground in Syria and it would help us in our fight

against Islamic State. But I want to respond to what Donald Trump said

about refugees. He has made these claims repeatedly. I will not let

anyone into this country who is not vetted and who we do not have

confidence in. But I will not slam the door on women at it. There was a

picture of that little foyer rolled boy with the blood coming down his

face as he sat in an ambulance, it was wanting. We will do careful and

thorough vetting. That does not solve the challenges with Islamic

State and the need to stop radicalisation and to work with

Muslim communities who are on the front lines to identify and prevent

attacks. In fact, the killer of the dozens of people at the nightclub in

Orlando, the Pulse Nightclub, was born in Queens, where Donald Trump

was born. Let us be clear how we will deal with the problem and what

it is. Yes, some of the problem emanates from Syria and Iraq. But I

will defeat Islamic State and we need to up our game and be much

smarter. The final segment. It is so ridiculous... She will defeat ISIS,

she says. We should never have let it happen in the first place. One

second. They had a ceasefire three weeks ago. A ceasefire, the United

States, Russia, Syria. And during the ceasefire, Russia took over vast

swathes of land and said we don't want it any more. We are so

outplayed on missiles and ceasefires. She wasn't there and I

assume she had nothing to do with it, but our country is so outplayed

by Vladimir Putin and Bashar al-Assad, and by the way, Iran. The

body can believe how stupid our leadership is. -- nobody. We need to

move on to the final segment, the national debt, not discussed until

tonight. Our national debt as a Sherine the economy, GDP, is now

77%, the highest since just after World War Two. -- as a share of the.

But Secretary Clinton, under your plan, debt would rise to 86% of GDP

over the next ten years, and Donald Trump, under yours, 105% over the

next ten years. Why are you both ignoring it? They are wrong. I'll

create tremendous job. I will bring GDP from 1%, and if she got in it

would be less than zero, we are bringing it from 1% up to 4%. And I

think we can go higher than 4%, five or 6%. And if we do... You don't

have to bother asking the question, because we have a tremendous

machine. We have created a tremendous economic machine once

again. To do that, we are taking back jobs. We will not let our

companies be raided by other countries where we lose all our

jobs. We won't bring in products any more. It is very sad we don't make

any. I will create the kind of country we were from the standpoint

of industry. We used to be there but we have given it up. We have become

very, very sloppy. We have had people that are political house

making the biggest deals in the world. -- hacks. The straight deals

are far bigger than these companies. But we don't use great leaders, many

of whom backed Hillary, but we don't use those people. They are the

greatest negotiators in the world. We have the greatest people in the

world. We need to use them to negotiate trade deals. We is

political hacks, people that get the physician because they made the

donation. -- position We have to use great people. That being said, we

will create an economic machine the likes of which we haven't seen in

many decades. And people, Chris, will again go back to work, and they

will make a lot of money and we will have companies that will grow and

expand and start from new. Secretary Clinton. First, when I hear Donald

talk like that and know that his slogan is make America great again,

I wonder when he thought America was great, and before he says before you

and President Obama were there, I think it is important to recognise

he has been criticising our government for decades. You know,

back in 1987, he took out a $100,000 advertisement in the New York Times

during the time when resident Reagan was president and basically said in

fact what he just said, that we were the laughing stock of the world. --

President. He was criticising Ronald Reagan. This is how he thinks about

himself. He puts himself into the middle and says, you know, I alone

can fix it, as he said the conventions age. But if you look at

the debt, which is the issue you asked about, I pay for everything I

am proposing. -- convenstion stage. I don't add a penny to the national

debt. I take that seriously. Because I think that is one of the issues we

have got to come to grips with. So when I talk about how we are going

to pay for education and how we are going to invest in infrastructure

and how we are going to get the cost of prescription drugs down, many of

the issues people talk to me about all the time, I have made it clear

that we are going where the money is and we are going to ask the wealthy

and corporations to pay their fair share. And there is no evidence

whatsoever that that will slow down or diminish our growth. In fact, I

think, just the opposite, what economists call middle out growth.

We to get back to regrow in the middle-class. That is where growth

will come from. I want to invest in you and your family. I think that is

the smartest way to grow the economy and make the economy fairer and we

have a big disagreement about this. Maybe it is because of our

experiences. Is darted off with a millionaire father and I started off

with... We have heard this before. I think it is a difference that

affects how we see the world and what we want to do with the economy.

And I respond? No. I disagreed with Ronald Reagan.

I disagree with him on trade. But now we are going to do it right. The

biggest driver of our debt is entitlement, which is 60% of all

federal spending. The responsible Federal budget has looked at both of

your plans and say neither of you has a serious plan that will resolve

the fact that Medicare will run out of money in the 2020 's. Social

Security will run out of money in the 2030. Recipients will take huge

cut in their benefits. In effect, the final question I want to ask you

in this regard, and let me start with you, Mr Trump, the president

Trump make the deal to save social care that includes benefit cuts and

a grand bargain on it? We are going to grow the economy. That will not

help. One thing we have to do. Repeal and to replace the disaster

known as Obamacare. It is just trying our country and our

businesses, our small business and our big businesses, we have to

repeal and replace Obamacare. You take a look at the kind of numbers

that will cost us in the year 2017. It is a disaster. If we don't repeal

and replace. It will probably die on its own, but Obamacare has to go.

The premiums are going up 60, 70, 80%. Next year they will go up over

100%. I'm really glad that the premiums have started and the people

see what is happening. She wants to keep Obamacare and make it even

worse. It can't get any worse. Bad healthcare at the most expensive

price. We have to repeal and replace Obamacare. Secretary Clinton, same

question. At this point, Social Security and Medicare will run out

and the trust fund will run out of money. Will you as president

consider a grand bargain, a deal, that includes both tax increases and

benefit cuts to try to save both programmes? I am on record as saying

we need to put more money into Social Security trust fund. That is

part of my commitment to raise taxes on the wealthy. My Social Security

payroll contribution will go up, as will Donald's, assuming he can't

figure out how to get out of it, but what we want to do is replace...

Such a nasty. We have to make sure we have sufficient resources, and

that will come from either raising the cap or finding ways to get more

money into it. I will not cut benefits. I want to enhance benefits

for those income workers. And for women who have been disadvantaged by

the current Social Security system. But what Donald is proposing with

these massive tax cuts will result in a $20 trillion additional

national debt. Have dire consequences for Security and

Medicare. I will say something about the affordable care act, which he

wants to repeal. The act extends the resiliency of the Medicare trust

fund. If he repeal sick, and Medicare problem gets worse. Your

husband disagrees with you. We need a long-term of Cape Canaveral. We

need costs down, increased value, emphasise one is. I think we will be

able to get entitlement spending under control with more resources

and smarter decisions. This is the final time, bubbly to both of your

ally, you will be on stage together in this campaign. -- probably both

to your delight. I would like you each, and we will put a clock up, to

tell the American people why they should elect to to be the next

president will stop this is another new mini segment. Hillary Clinton,

it is your turn to go first. I would like to say to everyone watching

tonight that I am reaching out to all Americans, Democrats,

Republicans and independents, because we need everybody to help

make our country what it should be. To grow the economy, to make it

fairer, to make it work for everyone. We need your talents, your

skills, your commitment, more energy, your ambition. I have been

privileged to see the presidency up close, and I know the awesome

responsibility of protecting our country and the incredible

opportunity of working to try to make life better for all of you. I

have made because of children and families really my life's Web. That

is what my mission will be in the presidency. -- work. I will stand up

for families against powerful interests, corporations, I will do

everything I can to make sure that you have good jobs with rising

incomes. That your kids have good educations from preschool through to

college. I hope you will give me a chance to serve as your president.

Secretary Clinton, thank you. Mr Trump. She is raising the money from

the people she wants to control. It doesn't work that way. When I

started this campaign, I started it very strongly, make America a great

again. We are going to make America great. We have a depleted military.

It has to be helped and fixed with the greatest people on earth in a

military. We don't take care of our veterans. We take care of illegal

immigrants. We take of them better than that. That can't happen. Our

policemen and policewomen I disrespected. We need more and order

but we need justice as well. Our inner cities are a disaster. You get

shot walking to the store. They have no education and jobs. I will do

more for African Americans and Latinos the chicken ever do in ten

lifetimes. All she has done is talk to the African Americans and the

Latinos -- then she can ever do. They get the vote and say we will

see you in four years. We will make America strong again and we will

make America great again, and it has to start now. We cannot take four

more years of Barack Obama, and that is what you get when you get her.

Thank you both. APPLAUSE

Secretary Clinton... Hold on, just a second. I want to thank you both for

participating in all three of these debates. That brings to an end this

you's debate. We want to take the University of Nevada, most beggars,

and its students, for having us. Now the decision is up to you. The

election is on November eight, just 20 days away. One thing everyone can

agree on, we hope you will grow and Fred. It is one of the honours and

obligations of living in this great country. -- and vote. Thank you and

good night. Chris Wallace from Fox News wrapping

up the third and final US presidential debate of 2016. Urging

American voters, whatever side they follow, to go and vote, saying it is

the privilege of people who live in the United States to have the right

to vote, and they should exercise it. We had 90 minutes of Donald

Trump and Hillary Clinton in often rushes attacks against each other.

They talked about substantial issues during this debate -- brochures.

Abortion rights, done right, tax proposals, Social Security

proposals, foreign policy, the attack on Mosul. But the headline

out of this debate was when Donald Trump said he would not guarantee to

accept a result of this election. He said he would look at it when the

time came. He said he would keep the American people in suspense for the

moment. I am joint by Anthony Zurcher, who was watching the debate

with me -- joined. What did you make of that? It was extraordinary.

Hillary Clinton called it horrifying and downplaying American democracy,

and the moderator Chris Wallace pushed them on as well. To have a

major presidential candidates stand on the stage and say he was not

necessarily going to abide by the result of the election. He did it as

part of a larger answer where he was lashing out against the media, who

he says are poisoning people's mines, and saying Hillary Clinton

should not have even been allowed to run for president. They have been a

lot of presidential debates since 1960, Kennedy versus Nixon, we have

not seen anything even approaching that. It was a truly divisive

remarks. What does it do to the last three weeks of what has already been

a contentious election campaign, to have one of the candidates they

effectively, I'm not sure I will support the next person? I think it

destabilises the democracy and this election. He has legions of

supporters, millions of supporters. He is still polling around 40%, and

he is telling them if he loses, it could be because the system was

rigged against him. It could lead to violence at polling places. He is

saying his supporters need to watch other polling places, possibly in

inner cities with minority voters. That sort of thing could cause

unrest. He was setting up to make it difficult for Hillary Clinton to

govern if he wins, because there will be a large segment of the

American population that does not believe she is rightfully president.

So we have Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton saying good night and hello

to their supporters. They have family members and their own guests

who are invited members of both parties, Republican and Democratic

parties, you can see Donald Trump with Melania Trump in the hall

before they leave the debate hall. There were substantive issues

discussed in this campaign, hats more so than the two previous Bates.

Donald Trump certainly had moments when he reached to conservative

Americans on the issue of abortion rights and gun-control -- perhaps

more so than the two previous debates. Making the case for why he

should be elected. At the beginning of the debate, Chris Wallace did a

smart thing, framed in a discussion of the Supreme Court. So both

candidates talked about policies. They talked about abortion and gun

rights. Both of them came up with compelling embodiments of their

party's position. Even when we first started talking about immigration,

Donald Trump was talking about his wall, the dangers posed by illegal

immigrant. Hillary Clinton was talking about the families that

might be pulled apart Donald Trump's proposed deportation forces. You

could kind of squint and imagine this was just another presidential

debate. But then when Clinton got asked about Wikileaks, she turned

into Tom's -- Trump's ties to blood nicotine. He had been taking swipes

at Hillary Clinton saying she was a Russian stooge and a liar -- ties to

Vladimir Putin. Anthony Zurcher, if you have been with me throughout the

debates. Thank you for joining me in Las Vegas.

Joining me now from Washington are Doug Thornell,

and John Feehery, Republican Strategist.

You have been watching this the best way you should watch these debates,

on a television screen, which is how millions of Americans will have been

watching them. John, let me start with you. What did you make of

Donald Trump's performance this evening? Talking about substance, I

think Donald Trump did well. He laid out the conservative case for why he

wanted to grow the economy and talk about the other issues that were

brought up. Immigration I thought he did well. He did well on trade from

his perspective, and did well attacking Hillary. I figure was a

mistake when he said he would keep us in suspense -- I think it was.

That goes against what his vice presidential candidate said and what

his daughter said earlier today. Is a huge mistake. It They are the

headlines. He could have won the debate hands down, and then the

headline no matter what would be what he said on accepting the

results. That was a big mistake on his part. Before I bring you into

this, let's play that for viewers who might have missed it. We have

backlit. -- that clip. I think we have that clip. We will try to bring

that up right now. OK. We will get back in just a minute. Let me bring

you into the discussion. Will that be the headline? I remember what he

said, and it was stunning, absolutely stunning, that a major

party candidate would not accept the results of an election. I disagree

with John. I think you are Clinton gave her best performance of all

three debates. -- Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump was all over the place

and did not really have a coherent economic policy at all. Hers was

very coherent. I think it looked angry. He looked like someone who

had a grievance. He looked like someone who's defending his right

flank, and worried about states that are traditionally red state, so he

made an appeal to his base. He did not grow any votes here. He did not

give folks in Pennsylvania and suburbs reason to vote for him, and

that is what he needed to do. He lost. It was a handsdown defeat. No

question in my mind your Clinton won this debate. Maybe not in knockout.

Donald Trump will have to figure out a way he can pull his campaign back

together for the last three weeks of this race. OK, if we are going to

use sports analogies, we will have to translate them as we go along.

Let's listen to that clip on the results of the election. Let's be

clear about what he is saying and what that means. He is denigrating

and talking down our democracy. I for one am appalled that somebody

who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind

of position. I think that the FBI did what the Department Justice did,

including meeting with her husband, the Attorney General, in the back of

an aeroplane on the tarmac in Arizona, I think it is disgraceful.

I think it is a disgrace. We have never had a situation so... I have

never had a situation so... He said he would keep people in suspense

about whether he would accept the results of the election, and he

would talk about it when we actually got there.

There were moments when Donald Trump, especially in the first half,

and we saw a pattern in the first debate as well, where he did make a

compelling case to Conservative voters about why he was the stronger

candidate. On those social issues that are very important to many

Conservative voters. I don't disagree that he made a good case to

Conservative voters, but he isn't running for the Republican

nomination any more, he is running for the presidency and he has to

reach out to Republicans and some Democrats. He ran out of gas again.

He likes to talk about stamina and I think he ran out of gas early in the

debate, earlier than the first one. Three weeks before the election it

isn't necessarily about your base so much as expanding your electorate

and he didn't do that, so I think he has got a lot of problems heading

into the last three weeks of this campaign. Let's hear Donald Trump on

the issue of abortion rights in America.

It is about what's happening right now in America. So many states are

putting very stringent regulations on women, that block them from

exercising that choice, to the extent that they are defunding

Planned Parenthood, which of course provides all sorts of cancer

screening and other benefits for women in our country. Donald has

said he is in favour of defunding Planned Parenthood and even wanted

to shut the government down to the fund Planned Parenthood. I will

defend it. I will defend women's rights to make their own health-care

decisions. We have come too far to have that turned back now. If you go

with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month you can take the baby

and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother, just prior to the birth

of the baby. Now, you can say that that's OK and Hillary can say that

that's OK, but it is not OK with me, because based on what she's saying

and based on where she is going and she has been, you can take the baby

and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month, on the final day,

and that's not acceptable. Well, that's not what happens in those

cases and using that kind of scared rhetoric is just terribly

unfortunate. You should meet with some of the women that I've met

with, women I've known over the course of my life. This is one of

the worst possible choices that any woman in her family -- and her

family has to make and I do not believe the government should be

making it. Let me ask you, when Donald Trump

talks like that about ripping babies from the womb, obviously as Doug was

suggesting that appeals to the core of his Conservative support, that he

already has. People who are very pro life and are probably going to vote

for Donald Trump in this election. But what does him talking like that

do to undecided voters, especially female voters, in the country? Well,

listen, the two parties have a difference on abortion. Republican

Party is pro-life, the Democratic Party is pro-choice and he is

talking about the types of abortions that aren't very popular in America.

Polling shows that a lot of people who are Democrats are appalled by

these types of abortions. I don't think this election really is at its

core about abortion, it is about other issues, like the temperament

of Donald Trump, the Clinton corruption on the Democratic side

and that's what this election seems to be about. The abortion really is

a political issue -- as a political issue, the parties have already

sorted themselves out, so I don't know that either side will be swayed

by the arguments of the other. On the issue of temperament and

fitness, if you like, to be president, how do you think Donald

Trump did this even in? Go-ahead, John. Go-ahead. I want to get John's

response. I think what he showed was that he could talk about the issues.

He did a relatively good job with temperament, it than the first

debate. I think where he screwed up was talking about the election and

would he accept the results and keeping people in suspense. American

voters don't want to hear that. They want to hear about a peaceful

transition to power and I assume that in the next couple of days he

will go out and say that he will accept it. He said that in the past,

I do know why he did that. I see we felt like he was put on the spot and

he just choked and I think it was a big mistake on his part. I agree

with John. Go-ahead. I agree with John. Look, I think that that is the

real sign of a leader, someone who can accept defeat if it happens.

We've seen that happen with John McCain in the past, Mitt Romney, we

saw that happen with Al Gore. Folks who are statesmen who lost, they

lost races that were very bitterly fought, but they accepted the

defeat. For Donald Trump to come out here and want to talk about how this

election is rigged against him, when both Paul Ryan, the Secretary of

State in Ohio, and others have disputed that, and now see won't

accept the results, I think it shows he is not only a sore loser but

someone who doesn't understand how important the democracy of this

country is and how the transition of power is so important to our

standing in the world and to the citizens of this country. I thought

it was a huge mistake on his part. There was of course also foreign

policy that came into this. They discussed Mosul, Iraq, they spoke

about whether Donald Trump hard or had not supported going into Iraq or

whether Hillary Clinton had given rise to the vote for going into Iraq

in the first place. But the bit of the foreign policy side that struck

me was the back and forth between them on Russia and President Putin.

Doug, what did you make of that? This is another stunning moment

where the intelligence agency in this country has determined that

Russia has hacked American institutions, the DMC and probably

other institutions. This is something that today Marco Rubio

said we shouldn't be using materials that were part of this hack. Donald