29/03/2014 Welsh Labour Party Conference


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Carwyn Jones says he'll "set the Carwyn Jones says he'll "set the

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record straight" on the Welsh NHS Carwyn Jones says he'll "set the

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after Conservative attacks - and he'll accuse UK ministers of

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after Conservative attacks - and launching a "Tory war on Wales". And

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after Conservative attacks - and he will accuse UK ministers that

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after Conservative attacks - and this... Welcome to coverage of Welsh

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Labour's this... Welcome to coverage of Welsh

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La`oer's spbing this... Welcome to coverage of Welsh

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Labour's spring conference. Good afternoon, prynhawn da, and

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wehcome Good afternoon, prynhawn da, and

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welcome to the programme. Over Good afternoon, prynhawn da, and

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welcome to dhe ppogrammd. Over the wehcome to dhe ppogrammd. Over the

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next two hours we'll hear from wehcome to dhe ppogrammd. Over the

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Carwyn Jones and the leader of the Laboer

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Carwyn Jones and the leader of the Labour Party, Ed Miliband, as Welsh

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Labour gather at Venue Cymru Labour Party, Ed Miliband, as Welsh

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Llandudno ahead of May's Labour Party, Ed Miliband, as Welsh

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan election. But as

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan elacdion. Bet as delegates

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan election. But as delegates wait to

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan hear the First Minister make his

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan spaech, there'll

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan speech, there'll be far more

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan Europe on the agenda, as Carwyn

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan Jones says he'll be fighting

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan against what's been described as a

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan Tory war against Wales. He'll be on

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan stage any minute now, but first

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Llandudno a`ead nf May's Europdan stage any manute now, btt first a

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quick chat stage any manute now, btt first a

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quicc chat gith nur stage any manute now, btt first a

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quick chat with our Welsh Affairs stage any manute now, btt first a

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editor, Vaughan Roderick, who'll be guiding us through this afternoon's

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editor, Vaughan Roderick, who'll be proceedings. What can we expect from

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Carwqn proceedings. What can we expect from

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Carwyn Jones this afternoon? An proceedings. What can we expect from

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election speech. We proceedings. What can we expect from

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elaction rpeech. We are coming up proceedings. What can we expect from

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election speech. We are coming up to tha

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election speech. We are coming up to the European elections. The

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election speech. We are coming up to Party is desperate to get their

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election speech. We are coming up to people out to vote so I think what

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we will hear from Carwyn Jones people out to vote so I think what

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not a speech that is heavy on not a speec` that as heavq on

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policy, but a barnstorming speech policy, btt a bapnstormhng speech

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full of attacks on the policy, btt a bapnstormhng speech

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full of attacks nn the conservativE fuhl of attacks nn the bonserv`tive

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designed to GR the party members and fuhl of attacks nn the bonserv`tive

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gea ep thd gee up the party's voters to bring

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them out when they European elacdions

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them out when they European elections are held

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them out when they European elecdions abe held in

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them out when they European elections are held in May. Let's

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tahk elections are held in May. Let's

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talk about this so-called Tory war elections are held in May. Let's

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on Wales. They have been on the elections are held in May. Let's

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offensive this week, Labour, ofdensive this weec, Labour,

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especially after Welsh Vest. ofdensive this weec, Labour,

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especially after Welsh West. Was ofdensive this weec, Labour,

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that a turning point? ofdensive this weec, Labour,

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that a tupnang pnint? That's ofdensive this weec, Labour,

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that a turning point? That's right. David Cameron has been using the

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David amdron har been tsang the record of the Welsh Government on

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record of t`e Wels` ovdrnment on health and education as a weapon

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record of t`e Wels` ovdrnment on attack Ed Miliband's. He does it

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attack Ed Milibald's. He does ht frequently in Prime Minister's

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frequently in Prime inhster's Questions. That ratcheted up for the

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frequently in Prime inhster's last week with a number of articles

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frequently in Prime inhster's in what used to be called Fleet

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in w`at ured to `e called Fleet Street newspapers, making broad

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attacks, not only on the Welsh Street newspapers, making broad

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Government but as Carwyn Jones sees Street newspapers, making broad

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it, on things like the Welsh it, on thhngs like the Velsh

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language and other aspects of life langeage `nd othdr aspects of life

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in Wales. Labour thinks langeage `nd othdr aspects of life

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them an opening to portray the langeage `nd othdr aspects of life

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Conservatives as not just being langeage `nd othdr aspects of life

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but being positively anti-Welsh. It

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but being positively anti-Wdlsh. It sets

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but Labour to try to polarise the

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but European elections into being a

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but labour against Tory battle. Not all

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but the other parties try and make

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but aboud labnub against Tory

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but about labour against Tory and bring

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but out the vote. The Conservatives will

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but not be too worried about that. That

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but could help them prevent a dress

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but voters away from them to UKIP. The

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anti-labour, anti-Carwyn Jones but two parties are fighting a very

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tradation`l two parties are fighting a very

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traditional 2-party campaign, the two parties are fighting a very

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sort we don't really see that sopt we dnn't really see that nften

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any more. Some might say, where have sopt we dnn't really see that nften

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thay been? Dhese sopt we dnn't really see that nften

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they been? These attacks come in they been> Dhese attackr come hn

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week after week in Prime Minister's they been> Dhese attackr come hn

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Questions and only now are they they been> Dhese attackr come hn

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fighting back. I find it genuinely they been> Dhese attackr come hn

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surprising. It has been clear for some months that the Conservative

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soie months that t`e Conservative Party and the Conservative group in

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Cardaff Party and the Conservative group in

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Cardiff a have been feeding and Party and the Conservative group in

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Cardiff a have bden feeding and new Party and the Conservative group in

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nation to Party and the Conservative group in

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napion to David Cameron Party and the Conservative group in

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nation to David Cameron to fire at Ed Milibald

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nation to David Cameron to fire at Ed Miliband about what has been

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going on hn Wales. Ed Miliband about what has been

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going on in Wales. There does not Ed Miliband about what has been

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seem to have been an equivalent seam to h`ve beel an equivalent

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channel going from Labour in Cardiff ai`

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channel going from Labour in Cardiff aid to Labour in Westminster. We

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have not until now seen Ed aid to Labour in Westminster. We

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hate not tntil nnw seen Ed Miliband aid to Labour in Westminster. We

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coming back and defending aid to Labour in Westminster. We

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Jones. And saying there are good aid to Labour in Westminster. We

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things that Carwyn Jones does. That things th`t Carwyn Jones does. That

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now is beginning to change. Thank things th`t Carwyn Jones does. That

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you for now. things th`t Carwyn Jones does. That

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Also with uc this things th`t Carwyn Jones does. That

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Also with us this afternoon is things th`t Carwyn Jones does. That

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roving reporter James Williams things th`t Carwyn Jones does. That

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he's outshde the things th`t Carwyn Jones does. That

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he's outside the conference hall. things th`t Carwyn Jones does. That

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Good afternoon. James, are they in things th`t Carwyn Jones does. That

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good spirits? Good afternoon. They ara

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good spirits? Good afternoon. They are in very good spirits.

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good spirits? Good afternoon. They are an vepy good spirits. As

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good spirits? Good afternoon. They are in very good spirits. As the

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good spirits? Good afternoon. They banner says, welcome

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good spirits? Good afternoon. They balner saxs, welcome to t`e Welsh

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banner says, welcome to the Welsh Labour

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banner says, welcome to the Welsh Laboer Papty

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banner says, welcome to the Welsh Labour Party spring conference. The

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ceilangs Labour Party spring conference. The

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ceilings are well under way. Dehegates had a

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ceilings are well under way. Delegates had a chance to hear

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Delegates had a bhance to hear from the party's national

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Delegates had a bhance to hear from Miliband and he outlined his vision

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for Miliband and he outlined his vision

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fop dhe Miliband and he outlined his vision

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for the economy. -- proceedings are Miliband and he outlined his vision

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very much under way. He has said Miliband and he outlined his vision

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Labour will get to grips with the Miliband and he outlined his vision

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rising cost of living Miliband and he outlined his vision

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rising cost of livang and Miliband and he outlined his vision

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rising cost of living and economic Miliband and he outlined his vision

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recovery under way Miliband and he outlined his vision

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recofery under way is Miliband and he outlined his vision

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recovery under way is by Miliband and he outlined his vision

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Conservative Party and it is one for Miliband and he outlined his vision

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the privileged Miliband and he outlined his vision

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the `rivileged few. Miliband and he outlined his vision

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the privileged few. They also Miliband and he outlined his vision

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outlined part of his Labour Party's response to the second part of the

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outlined part of his Labour Party's silky commission, which he

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outlined part of his Labour Party's antilabour -- he said that a Labour

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antilaboup -- he said that a L`bour Government would introduce new

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Govebnment gould introdtce new devolved powers to Wales. And also

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he came to the defence of the Welsh Laboer

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he came to the defence of the Welsh Labour Government to

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he came to the defence of the Welsh attack from Conservatives recently.

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he came to the defence of the Welsh Expect to hear more on that from the

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he came to the defence of the Welsh First Minister Carwyn Jones

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he came to the defence of the Welsh Fipsd inhsder Carwyn Jnnes when

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he came to the defence of the Welsh First Minister Carwyn Jones when he

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makec First Minister Carwyn Jones when he

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makes his speech shortly. In makec his s`eech s`ortly. In terms

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of Ed Miliband's speech at makec his s`eech s`ortly. In terms

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announcement on devolution, makec his s`eech s`ortly. In terms

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significant was it? It was very significant in the sense that we got

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the first indication of w`ere significant in the sense that we got

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the first indication of where the Laboer

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the first indication of where the Labour Party thinks it

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Laboer Paptq thilks it hs goinf to move on this second part of the

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Laboer Paptq thilks it hs goinf to commission. It was

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Laboer Paptq thilks it hs goinf to commassiol. It was well received

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Laboer Paptq thilks it hs goinf to commission. It was well received in

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tha commission. It was well received in

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the audience and a few policy supporters will be glad to hear

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supporters gill `e glad to hear of it.

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supporters gill `e glad to hear of it, Dhat

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supporters gill `e glad to hear of it. That was one of the easier

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supporters gill `e glad to hear of things of the second part of the

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supporters gill `e glad to hear of silky mission to agree to, it is

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whether the Labour Party what`er the Labour Party will `gree

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to devolve some of the other issues what`er the Labour Party will `gree

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that the Labour Party in Cardiff they want to see devolved, such as

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that the Labour Party in Cardiff policing, big energy products and

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pohicing, bag endrgy products `nd increasing the number of

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pohicing, bag endrgy products `nd increasinf dhe number of ATMs. What

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pohicing, bag endrgy products `nd is the response on

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pohicing, bag endrgy products `nd is t`e response on thosd assues?

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pohicing, bag endrgy products `nd is the response on those issues? --

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pohicing, bag endrgy products `nd increasing the number

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pohicing, bag endrgy products `nd increasing dhe number of

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pohicing, bag endrgy products `nd increasing the number of AMs.

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increasinf dhe ntmber of AMs. Elections are like buses. Three

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increasinf dhe ntmber of AMs. Elacdions are like buses. Three in a

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Elections are like buses. Three in a row now. Does it feel like a

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Elections are like buses. Three in a pre-election conference? Are

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Elections are like buses. Three in a really geared up there? Yes. The

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opinaon really geared up there? Yes. The

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opinion polls are very much in their really geared up there? Yes. The

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favour. They really geared up there? Yes. The

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fatoer. They have got good really geared up there? Yes. The

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favour. They have got good reason to be cheerful. The Welsh opinion

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favour. They have got good reason to show that they could take two of the

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show that t`ey could taje two nf the four Welsh European seats in the

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Euro`ean four Welsh European seats in the

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Eupo`ean dlectiols four Welsh European seats in the

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European elections in four Welsh European seats in the

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Eupo`ean dlectiols in May. four Welsh European seats in the

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European elections in May. They Euro`ean dlectiols in May. They

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currently hold one. That would be a Euro`ean dlectiols in May. They

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good election for the L`bour Euro`ean dlectiols in May. They

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good election for the Labour Party. Some are suggesting they might be

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good election for the Labour Party. able to sneak a third seat which

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good election for the Labour Party. would be fantastic or the Labour

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good election for the Labour Party. Party.

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good election for the Labour Party. Paptq. Thdy

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good election for the Labour Party. Party. They would be very happy

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aboud Party. They would be very happy

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about that. Looking ahead to Party. They would be very happy

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about that. Lookhng ahead to the other general election next year and

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tha other general election next year and

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the Assembly election after that, tha

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the Assembly election after that, the polls are strong for them in

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the Assembly election after that, those as well. It is quite

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inpebestilg those as well. It is quite

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interesting to see we have a set of pohlc

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interesting to see we have a set of polls that the people are satisfied

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wiph polls that the people are satisfied

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with the running of the health wiph the punning of the health

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service and education service but in the same polls, they still want to

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service and education service but in vote for the Labnur arty

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service and education service but in vote for the Labour Party who is in

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fact running those services in Wahec.

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fact running those services in Wales. It will be interesting to see

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fact running those services in if that changes in the next year.

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Thanc if that changes in the next year.

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Thank you very muc`. if that changes in the next year.

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Thank you very much. Let's if that changes in the next year.

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Thank you very muc`. Let's look at Thank you very much. Let's look at

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thaib Thank you very much. Let's look at

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their chance 's as we await Thank you very much. Let's look at

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First Minister's speech. There are Thank you very much. Let's look at

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charities in these European elacdions first

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charities in these European elections first of all. What is

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charities in these European realistic? -- their chance 's. It is

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realastic? -- thdir chance 's. It is realistic to hope for two. Three

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woqld realistic to hope for two. Three

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would be stretching it. Labour need to get more than double t`e

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would be stretching it. Labour need to get more than double the boats

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to get mope than double t`e boats of any one of three parties. Either

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to get mope than double t`e boats of more than double those of the

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to get mope than double t`e boats of Tories, more than double the boats

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to get mope than double t`e boats of UKIP or applied Cumbrae. That would

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leave the parties fighting over UKIP or applied Cumbrae. That would

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reiaaning tgo seats. UKIP or applied Cumbrae. That would

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Ray. -- Tim at. If you look at UKIP or applied Cumbrae. That would

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last election, the problem was getting people out to vote. -- Plaid

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last election, the problem was Cymru. If you look at a rock-solid

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Cyiru. If you look at a rock-snlid Labour constituency, how many voters

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La`oer colsdituelcq, how many voters came out in last year's

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La`oer colsdituelcq, how many voters caie out hn last year's Labour

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La`oer colsdituelcq, how many voters election? European election. Just

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ovar election? European election. Just

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over 4000, election? European election. Just

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over 4000. You can election? European election. Just

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over 4000, Qou can see over 4000. You can see the

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diffaculty over 4000. You can see the

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difficulty in getting people over 4000. You can see the

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didfaculty in gettang pdoplE out. over 4000. You can see the

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That is like a strategy of attacking the Tories is one

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That is like a strategy of attacking tha Dories as ond that xou will

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the Tories is one that you will work. It is an expensive period

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work. It hs an expensivd period for parties in terms of this, where do

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thay keep parties in terms of this, where do

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they keep their cash, for the parties in terms of this, where do

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lot? The Assembly elections? Do they lop? The @scembly elections? Do they

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throw money at the European elections? Different parties have

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elecdions> Diffepent partaes h`ve different priorities. The Europeans

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elecdions> Diffepent partaes h`ve are amportant in

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elecdions> Diffepent partaes h`ve are important in terms

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elecdions> Diffepent partaes h`ve are amportant in terms nf the

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elecdions> Diffepent partaes h`ve momentum that thdy

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elecdions> Diffepent partaes h`ve momentum that they give two

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elecdions> Diffepent partaes h`ve going into the general

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going into dhe gdneral dlection. Certainly as far as Labour and the

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going into dhe gdneral dlection. Conservatives and the Liberal

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Colservatives and the Lhberal Democrats are going, the big one is

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Colservatives and the Lhberal 2015. Plaid Cymru is a little bit

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2015. Plahd Cymru as a little bit different. Their prime focus will be

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2015. Plahd Cymru as a little bit on 2016 and the

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2015. Plahd Cymru as a little bit on 2 16 and the @ssembly elections.

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2015. Plahd Cymru as a little bit Let's look

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2015. Plahd Cymru as a little bit Lep's look back at what

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2015. Plahd Cymru as a little bit Let's look back at what Ed Miliband

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said this morning as we wait Carwyn Jonec. Thd

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said this morning as we wait Carwyn Jones. The debate is still going on

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Jonec. Thd debate as still going on in Llandudno. In terms of

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Jonec. Thd debate as still going on devolution announcement, how

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signaficalt devolution announcement, how

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significant an devolution announcement, how

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asking Jalec devolution announcement, how

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asking James about this reserved asking Jalec about this reservdd

:08:28.:08:27.

power model. What does it mean? asking Jalec about this reservdd

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in play means that Wales be brought in line with Scotland and Northern

:08:33.:08:34.

in play means that Wales be brought Ireland. Rather than having a list

:08:35.:08:37.

in play means that Wales be brought of powers on what the Assembly can

:08:38.:08:38.

do, you would have a of powers on what the Assembly can

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do( you would hate a list of powers on what the Assembly can

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do, you would have a list of powers of powers on what the Assembly can

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about what Westminster can do and of powers on what the Assembly can

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then it took would be used and that everything else, the Assembly is in

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evarqthinf else, t`e Asrembly hs in charge. Thank you very much. Carwyn

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charge. Thank you very luch. C`rwyn Jones is now getting on the stage.

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Jolec is log getting on t`e stage. There he is. He has got a big speech

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Jolec is log getting on t`e stage. to make. He is very pleased with his

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wehcome ol ctage, to make. He is very pleased with his

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welcome on stage. Let's hear what wehcome ol ctage, Let's hear what

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Carwyn Jones has to tell the wehcome ol ctage, Let's hear what

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conference. Thanc

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conference. Thank you, conference. TRANSLATION:

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It ic Thank you, conference. TRANSLATION:

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It is a Thank you, conference. TRANSLATION:

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It ic a pleasure Thank you, conference. TRANSLATION:

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It is a pleasure to be here again It is a pleasure to be here ag`in

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today as your Labour leader from It is a pleasure to be here ag`in

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Wales. It is a pleasure to be here ag`in

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It has been a toug` timd It is a pleasure to be here ag`in

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It has been a tough time for us It is a pleasure to be here ag`in

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because of the start It is a pleasure to be here ag`in

:09:22.:09:22.

becaese od dhe start of t`e Tory It is a pleasure to be here ag`in

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because of the start of the Tory war It is a pleasure to be here ag`in

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on Wales. But the It is a pleasure to be here ag`in

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on Wales. But thd Welsh It is a pleasure to be here ag`in

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on Wales. But the Welsh Government cannot fight back alone. I

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on Wales. But the Welsh Government calnot fight back alone. I know

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on Wales. But the Welsh Government rely on all of you in this party to

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on Wales. But the Welsh Government expose the Tories to the people

:09:33.:09:33.

on Wales. But the Welsh Government Britain. So I want to start

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on Wales. But the Welsh Government thanking all of you in this hall and

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thanking `ll of xou in thas hall and the wider party for the work you do

:09:39.:09:40.

tha gider party dor the work ynu do to promote our call by tse

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tha gider party dor the work ynu do to promote our call by use -- our

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tha gider party dor the work ynu do core values around the nation. All

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of t`e core values around the nation. All

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of the councillors we see core values around the nation. All

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making the tough decisions on hard making thd dough decisions on hard

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times. All of making thd dough decisions on hard

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tiiec. All of thnse who times. All of those who knock doors

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an` times. All of those who knock doors

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and delivdr times. All of those who knock doors

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and deliver leaflets, thank you for yoqr

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and deliver leaflets, thank you for your work in offering the people of

:09:58.:09:59.

Wales a better future. Give yourselves a round of applause.

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APPLAU E yoqrcelves a rould of applause.

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APPLAUSE APPLAU E

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Thank you to Dave and his team in trancport house

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Thank you to Dave and his team in transport house for working

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Thank you to Dave and his team in the clock for this party. I would

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Thank you to Dave and his team in like to

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Thank you to Dave and his team in Assembly for their support. It

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Assembly dob their suppnrt. It is tough when you don't have a clear

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majobity tough when you don't have a clear

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majority at there have been there week in,

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majority at there have been there weak in, week

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majority at there have been there week in, week out, ensuring we get

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our week in, week out, ensuring we get

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oup Gelsh week in, week out, ensuring we get

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our Welsh Labour programme through. I would like to thank Owen Smith,

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our Welsh Labour programme through. our shadow Secretary of State and

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our Welsh Labour programme through. the Welsh

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our Welsh Labour programme through. tha Welsh PLP

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our Welsh Labour programme through. the Welsh PLP for the

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our Welsh Labour programme through. tha Welsh PLP fop the worc they do

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our Welsh Labour programme through. in exposing the UK Government week

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our Welsh Labour programme through. after week. We work very well

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together. You have all of our support in ensuring that Ed Miliband

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support il ensuring that Ed Miliband is our Prime Minister next year.

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Last union colleagues. For the work that

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union colleagues, For the work that you do in standing

:10:59.:10:59.

union colleagues, For the work that yoq do in sdanding up for the

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union colleagues, For the work that you do in standing up for the most

:11:01.:11:00.

vuhnerable, you do in standing up for the most

:11:01.:11:00.

vulnerable, for fighting you do in standing up for the most

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vuhnerable, for dightinf for you do in standing up for the most

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vulnerable, for fighting for those you do in standing up for the most

:11:03.:11:04.

who want decent terms and conditions. There are some in this

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world who seek to denigrate what you do. Dhere ic

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world who seek to denigrate what you do. There is nothing wrong

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do, Dhere ic nothing wrong in standing up for the rights of

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standing tp for the rights of working

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standing tp for the rights of wopkang peo`le. Nur

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standing tp for the rights of working people. Our trade union

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colleagues worked working people. Our trade union

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cohleagues worked tirelessly colleagues worked tirelessly to

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achieve that, you are colleagues worked tirelessly to

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and essential part of colleagues worked tirelessly to

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an` essential papt of our labour and essential part of our labour

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movement and essential part of our labour

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motement `nd and essential part of our labour

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movement and we will never and essential part of our labour

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motement `nd we vill never forget that.

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APPLAUSE APPLAU E

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It has been a didfacult few APPLAU E

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It has been a difficult few weeks. Atpacks

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It has been a difficult few weeks. Attacks from

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It has been a difficult few weeks. Atpacks fpom the

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It has been a difficult few weeks. Attacks from the Tories and the

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London press. Constantly getting our message across, ministers spending

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tiie on message across, ministers spending

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time on the airwaves putting Wahec's

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time on the airwaves putting Wales's case. We have

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time on the airwaves putting Walec's case. We have sden Mark

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time on the airwaves putting Drakeford setting

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time on the airwaves putting Drakeford settinf the recorD

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Drakeford setting the record straaght

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Drakeford setting the record stpaaght nn

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Drakeford setting the record straight on health. He described

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hiiself as straight on health. He described

:11:53.:11:52.

himself as coldly furious on himself ar coldly furious on

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Newsnight at the Tory himself ar coldly furious on

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Newsnight ad the Tory attacks himself ar coldly furious on

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Newsnight at the Tory attacks on himself ar coldly furious on

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Walec and boy himself ar coldly furious on

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Wales and boy does he do cold fury himself ar coldly furious on

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well. himself ar coldly furious on

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wehl. hat himself ar coldly furious on

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well. What we have never done is himself ar coldly furious on

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mislead the people of Wales. We have himself ar coldly furious on

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been honest and upfront about the bean honest and tpfront about the

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challenges we face and bean honest and tpfront about the

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challenges ge face and rometimds bean honest and tpfront about the

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unpopular decisions bean honest and tpfront about the

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unpo`ular decisions have bean honest and tpfront about the

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unpopular decisions have to be taken bean honest and tpfront about the

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to provide better services. That is to pbovidd bettep services. Th`t is

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in contrast to the Tories. I to pbovidd bettep services. Th`t is

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told a few weeks ago that a man had to pbovidd bettep services. Th`t is

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had a near death experience, you had a neap death epperience, ynu

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know the ones where people believe they almost get to heaven before

:12:30.:12:30.

thay almost get to heavdn before being sent back to earth again. This

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thay almost get to heavdn before man was convinced

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thay almost get to heavdn before mal gas confinced that thas

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thay almost get to heavdn before happened to him. He

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thay almost get to heavdn before experienced in great detail.

:12:38.:12:38.

thay almost get to heavdn before he arrived at the pearly gates and

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he arrived at thd pearly gates and Saint Peter had greeted him. He

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coqld Saint Peter had greeted him. He

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could not help noticing that he was Saint Peter had greeted him. He

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surrounded by millions Saint Peter had greeted him. He

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everywhere all showing different Saint Peter had greeted him. He

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times. He acked Raant Saint Peter had greeted him. He

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times. He asked Saint Peter what the cloccs

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times. He asked Saint Peter what the clocks were for. Said Peter told him

:12:51.:12:54.

that each clock represented the life of the person living or dead, each

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time a person told a lie, the clock woqld

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time a person told a lie, the clock would movd

:13:01.:13:00.

time a person told a lie, the clock would move forward

:13:01.:13:00.

time a person told a lie, the clock would movd forwapd one

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time a person told a lie, the clock pointed to a

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time a person told a lie, the clock poinded to a clock

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time a person told a lie, the clock pointed to a clock where

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time a person told a lie, the clock poinded to a clock where the h`nd

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pointed to a clock where the hand ha` never

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pointed to a clock where the hand had never moved and said, that clock

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is mother Theresa's clock and you can

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is mother Theresa's clock and you cal cee

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is mother Theresa's clock and you can see he never lied once. So the

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is mother Theresa's clock and you hands have never moved. He said,

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is mother Theresa's clock and you that clock dhere

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is mother Theresa's clock and you that clock there is the Abraham

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is mother Theresa's clock and you Lilcoln clock, the second

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is mother Theresa's clock and you Lincoln clock, the second hand moved

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onhy Lincoln clock, the second hand moved

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only twice because he Lincoln clock, the second hand moved

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only twice becaure he onlq Lincoln clock, the second hand moved

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only twice because he only told to live

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only twice because he only told to lite in his life.

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only twice because he only told to live in his life. Until the man said

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only twice because he only told to to Saint Peder,

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only twice because he only told to to Saint Peter, thank for that but

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to Saint Peder, thank for that but where is David Cameron's

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to Saint Peder, thank for that but often does that move? Said Peter

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to Saint Peder, thank for that but said, we use that as a fan in the

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kitchen. ,- Saint said, we use that as a fan in the

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kitchen. -- Saint Peters said, we use that as a fan in the

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kitchen. ,- Saint Peters said. One way to slow that clock down

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would be to deliver on One way to slow that clock down

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government's promised to pay for the One way to slow that clock down

:13:50.:13:50.

modernisation of our railways. We One way to slow that clock down

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all heard Ava Jones trumpet the investment, we heard the Prime

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Minicter investment, we heard the Prime

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Minister say on the BBC that investment, we heard the Prime

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Minister raq on the BC t`at hd Minister say on the BBC that he

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woqld Minister say on the BBC that he

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would be paying. My message Minister say on the BBC that he

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UK Government is this. Sit down with Minister say on the BBC that he

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us and lets discuss a way forward but above all keep to your

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us and lets discuss a way forward bup above all keep to your public

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but above all keep to your public promase.

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Do you remember the Cameron and Clegg rose garden moment? It seemed

:14:21.:14:27.

that compascionate consdrvatism that comp`scionate consdrvatisl was

:14:28.:14:28.

actually real. Not long after the that comp`scionate consdrvatisl was

:14:29.:14:32.

Rose Garden, we had David Rose Garddn, we had avhd Cameron

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arriving in Wales to Rose Garddn, we had avhd Cameron

:14:34.:14:36.

respect agenda. He wanted to see Rose Garddn, we had avhd Cameron

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that exist between our two administrations, but it didn't

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that exist between our two long for that mask to slip. Far

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that exist between our two respect agenda, we now

:14:46.:14:46.

that exist between our two ourselves on the front line in

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that exist between our two Tory war on Wales. Day after day

:14:49.:14:51.

that exist between our two see attack after attack on the NHS

:14:52.:14:55.

an` see attack after attack on the NHS

:14:56.:14:57.

and those who work in it. On our schools, our teachers, on

:14:58.:14:59.

and those who work in it. On our schools, nub teabhers, nn the

:15:00.:14:59.

and those who work in it. On our language, on devolution,

:15:00.:15:00.

and those who work in it. On our lalgeage, on devolution, on Wales

:15:01.:15:00.

language, on devolution, on Wales itself. But this is not about a

:15:01.:15:14.

language, on devolution, on Wales competition of ideas,

:15:15.:15:15.

language, on devolution, on Wales coipetition of ideas, a

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language, on devolution, on Wales competition of ideas, a conflict of

:15:17.:15:17.

political competition of ideas, a conflict of

:15:18.:15:18.

polidical a`proabhes competition of ideas, a conflict of

:15:19.:15:18.

political approaches or competition of ideas, a conflict of

:15:19.:15:18.

polidical a`proabhes or a genuine competition of ideas, a conflict of

:15:19.:15:19.

disagreement on public service competition of ideas, a conflict of

:15:20.:15:20.

reform. This is a competition of ideas, a conflict of

:15:21.:15:22.

refobm. This is ` Tory elate competition of ideas, a conflict of

:15:23.:15:23.

reform. This is a Tory elite waging refobm. Thic is ` Tory dlate waging

:15:24.:15:23.

war on Wales. Pandering to the wap on Walec. Paldering to the

:15:24.:15:25.

prejudices of some London newsrooms wap on Walec. Paldering to the

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in an attempt to pick up wap on Walec. Paldering to the

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vote in English wap on Walec. Paldering to the

:15:31.:15:31.

vope in Elglish larginal wap on Walec. Paldering to the

:15:32.:15:32.

don't have to believe wap on Walec. Paldering to the

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dol'd havd do believe md, wap on Walec. Paldering to the

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don't have to believe me, that wap on Walec. Paldering to the

:15:34.:15:34.

what Grant Shapps, the Tory party wap on Walec. Paldering to the

:15:35.:15:38.

chairman, said wap on Walec. Paldering to the

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to Wales to The Times newspaper. wap on Walec. Paldering to the

:15:43.:15:44.

could not make it up. wap on Walec. Paldering to the

:15:45.:15:46.

coqld not make it up. We wap on Walec. Paldering to the

:15:47.:15:46.

could not make it up. We cannot and wap on Walec. Paldering to the

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we will not allow the Welsh public wap on Walec. Paldering to the

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to be taken in by wap on Walec. Paldering to the

:15:50.:15:52.

Wahec as wap on Walec. Paldering to the

:15:53.:15:53.

Wales as collateral damage wap on Walec. Paldering to the

:15:54.:15:53.

Wahec as collatepal dam`ge in their Wales as collateral damage in their

:15:54.:15:53.

general election campaign. Their Wales as collateral damage in their

:15:54.:15:55.

access to the London press may Wales as collateral damage in their

:15:56.:15:57.

access to t`e Loldon press May give Wales as collateral damage in their

:15:58.:15:58.

them a bigger megaphone, but Wales as collateral damage in their

:15:59.:16:00.

fundamental failing is this. They Wales as collateral damage in their

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don't have Wales as collateral damage in their

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don'd have dhe Wales as collateral damage in their

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don't have the truth on their side. Wales as collateral damage in their

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The truth is this. Since the Wales as collateral damage in their

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election in May 2011, we Wales as collateral damage in their

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election hn May 2011, we `ave Wales as collateral damage in their

:16:14.:16:14.

achieved a huge Wales as collateral damage in their

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achieved a `uge `mount on Wales as collateral damage in their

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achieved a huge amount on behalf Wales as collateral damage in their

:16:16.:16:17.

the people in Wales. The truth is Wales as collateral damage in their

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that unemployment today in Wales is lower than Scotland, Northern

:16:21.:16:22.

that unemployment today in Wales is Ireland, and

:16:23.:16:24.

Ireland, `nd lower than England. Week in, week out, even as a

:16:25.:16:27.

minority Government, we have stuck Week in, week out, even as a

:16:28.:16:32.

to the pledges ald promhses th`t we put to the country at the

:16:33.:16:35.

put do thd countpy at the election. The truth is that we have kept to

:16:36.:16:39.

the promises we made to the The truth is that we have kept to

:16:40.:16:42.

people. We have kept our word and we The truth is that we have kept to

:16:43.:16:44.

have delitebed. One The truth is that we have kept to

:16:45.:16:46.

have delivered. One of the biggest The truth is that we have kept to

:16:47.:16:47.

and most important pledges we made The truth is that we have kept to

:16:48.:16:49.

in the manifesto nearly three years The truth is that we have kept to

:16:50.:16:51.

ago was to The truth is that we have kept to

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ago gas to our The truth is that we have kept to

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ago was to our young people, to ago was to our ynung people, to

:16:54.:16:53.

Wales's future. We made a foul that ago was to our ynung people, to

:16:54.:16:56.

we would strain every sinew not to ago was to our ynung people, to

:16:57.:16:58.

allow another generation of young ago was to our ynung people, to

:16:59.:17:01.

Welsh people to be sold down the riveb

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Welsh people to be sold down the river as had happened under previous

:17:03.:17:03.

Welsh people to be sold down the Tory governments. And, what was

:17:04.:17:05.

Welsh people to be sold down the first policy the Tories axed in

:17:06.:17:07.

Welsh people to be sold down the Government this time round? Thd

:17:08.:17:07.

Goternment dhis time round? Thd future jobs

:17:08.:17:08.

Goternment dhis time round? Thd future jo`s fund,

:17:09.:17:08.

Goternment dhis time round? Thd future jobs fund, which developed

:17:09.:17:09.

fupube jo`s fund, which developed work experience to thousands of

:17:10.:17:10.

fupube jo`s fund, which developed yoqngsters. Here

:17:11.:17:11.

fupube jo`s fund, which developed youngsters. Here in Labour Wales, we

:17:12.:17:13.

youngsters. Here in abnur Wales, we rolled up our sleeves and created

:17:14.:17:14.

youngsters. Here in abnur Wales, we our own Jobs Growth Wales. An

:17:15.:17:17.

ambidious our own Jobs Growth Wales. An

:17:18.:17:17.

ambitious scheme promising job am`itious scheme promishng job

:17:18.:17:20.

opportunities for unemployed young people, and

:17:21.:17:21.

opportunities for unemployed young people, ald the

:17:22.:17:21.

opportunities for unemployed young people, and the truth about it, we

:17:22.:17:26.

opportunities for unemployed young have created 11,000 jobs

:17:27.:17:27.

opportunities for unemployed young have created 11,000 jobr for

:17:28.:17:28.

opportunities for unemployed young have created 11,000 jobs for young

:17:29.:17:28.

have created 11,000 jobr for ynung people across the

:17:29.:17:29.

have created 11,000 jobr for ynung people acpocs thd length

:17:30.:17:29.

have created 11,000 jobr for ynung people across the length and breadth

:17:30.:17:30.

have created 11,000 jobr for ynung of Wales. Not just any jobs, good

:17:31.:17:32.

of Wales. Not jurt any jobs, gnod jobs. We are well on

:17:33.:17:35.

jo`s. We are well on tracc to fulfilling our promise when it

:17:36.:17:37.

jo`s. We are well on tracc to to the number, but we have achieved

:17:38.:17:39.

jo`s. We are well on tracc to something considerably more than

:17:40.:17:41.

jo`s. We are well on tracc to that through this scheme. Every day

:17:42.:17:42.

we hear stories like that through this scheme. Every day

:17:43.:17:45.

we hear stobies lice thhs that through this scheme. Every day

:17:46.:17:47.

we hear stories like this one, once an unemployed I do it desperate for

:17:48.:17:51.

work, now using his an unemployed I do it desperate for

:17:52.:17:52.

wopk, now ucing his degree an unemployed I do it desperate for

:17:53.:17:54.

work, now using his degree as an IT specialist. He said this: " Before I

:17:55.:17:56.

gop specialist. He said this: " Before I

:17:57.:17:57.

got this specialist. He said this: " Before I

:17:58.:17:57.

got dhis np`ortulity, specialist. He said this: " Before I

:17:58.:17:59.

got this opportunity, I was debating scra`ping

:18:00.:18:00.

got this opportunity, I was debating scrapping the graduate job search

:18:01.:18:01.

scpa`ping t`e graduate job search and looking for a minimum Wade job,

:18:02.:18:04.

and lookilg for ` minimtm Wade job, but then I got the initial six-month

:18:05.:18:07.

and lookilg for ` minimtm Wade job, jobs and it changed my whole

:18:08.:18:12.

and lookilg for ` minimtm Wade job, mindset". These are the stories we

:18:13.:18:14.

mildcet". T`ese `re the stories we hear in every corner of Wales, from

:18:15.:18:16.

yoqng hear in every corner of Wales, from

:18:17.:18:17.

young men hear in every corner of Wales, from

:18:18.:18:17.

yoqng men and hear in every corner of Wales, from

:18:18.:18:18.

young men and women, life that has been tranrformed, Contrast

:18:19.:18:20.

young men and women, life that has been transformed. Contrast that

:18:21.:18:21.

young men and women, life that has the Tories, who last week delivered

:18:22.:18:25.

young men and women, life that has a budget that gave young people no

:18:26.:18:26.

hehp, a budget that gave young people no

:18:27.:18:27.

help, no hope, no future. We in a budget that gave young people no

:18:28.:18:29.

Welsh Labour will never let Wels` abnub will never let our

:18:30.:18:31.

young people Another pledge we made to the people

:18:32.:18:44.

of Wales vac Another pledge we made to the people

:18:45.:18:47.

of Wales was about making our Another pledge we made to the people

:18:48.:18:48.

communities safer places to live. We Another pledge we made to the people

:18:49.:18:53.

promised to create Another pledge we made to the people

:18:54.:18:54.

promased to create 500 extra promised to create 500 extra

:18:55.:18:54.

coimenity promised to create 500 extra

:18:55.:18:56.

community support officers across Wahec

:18:57.:18:56.

community support officers across Wales over the current

:18:57.:18:58.

community support officers across term. Today I can tell you, not only

:18:59.:19:00.

have we already delivered on term. Today I can tell you, not only

:19:01.:19:03.

promise, but we have actually promase, bud we have actually

:19:04.:19:06.

exceeded that nulber. Through nur actions we have almost

:19:07.:19:08.

exceeded that nulber. Through nur acpions we `ave almost doubled

:19:09.:19:09.

exceeded that nulber. Through nur numbers of CS pose on Welsh

:19:10.:19:13.

exceeded that nulber. Through nur streets. Welsh Labour delivering for

:19:14.:19:14.

our communidies, making streets. Welsh Labour delivering for

:19:15.:19:15.

our communities, making streets safer. But that won't be

:19:16.:19:19.

our communities, making streets safeb. But that von't bd the

:19:20.:19:19.

safeb. But dhat von't bd the defining area where people will

:19:20.:19:21.

charge. No, that will be on the defining area where people will

:19:22.:19:27.

Here, like nowhere else, defining area where people will

:19:28.:19:29.

matters. Because defining area where people will

:19:30.:19:30.

mapters. @ecause we are not defining area where people will

:19:31.:19:33.

matters. Because we are not talking defining area where people will

:19:34.:19:38.

about Jeremy Hunt's latest tantrum, on health we need the truth. We

:19:39.:19:41.

about Jeremy Hunt's latest tantrum, talking about patient

:19:42.:19:42.

about Jeremy Hunt's latest tantrum, tahkang a`oet patient s`fety. We

:19:43.:19:43.

about Jeremy Hunt's latest tantrum, talking about patient safety. We are

:19:44.:19:43.

about Jeremy Hunt's latest tantrum, talking about the fight against

:19:44.:19:45.

about Jeremy Hunt's latest tantrum, cancer, about how to improve

:19:46.:19:47.

about Jeremy Hunt's latest tantrum, lives of stroke patients, dignity in

:19:48.:19:49.

care, an end to the stigma around lives of stroke patients, dignity in

:19:50.:19:52.

mental healdh, lives of stroke patients, dignity in

:19:53.:19:54.

mental health, about nurses working expra

:19:55.:19:56.

mental health, about nurses working extra hours at night to

:19:57.:19:56.

mental health, about nurses working extra houps at nhg`t to see

:19:57.:19:57.

mental health, about nurses working extra hours at night to see how

:19:58.:19:57.

mental health, about nurses working patients `re

:19:58.:19:58.

mental health, about nurses working patients are after they have left

:19:59.:19:59.

papients `re after they have left hospital, not for a bonus, but

:20:00.:20:01.

hospatal, not fop a bonts, but because they care. And there

:20:02.:20:04.

becaese theq care. And there are some difficult truths to,

:20:05.:20:07.

becaese theq care. And there are of poor care,

:20:08.:20:10.

becaese theq care. And there are unacceptable. Waiting times for

:20:11.:20:12.

becaese theq care. And there are diagnostic tests, examples of

:20:13.:20:13.

coiplacenby diagnostic tests, examples of

:20:14.:20:14.

complacency at the top of local coiplacenby at the top nf local

:20:15.:20:15.

health boards, a complicated coiplacenby at the top nf local

:20:16.:20:17.

complaint system, which we must and coiplacenby at the top nf local

:20:18.:20:21.

will reform. For those failings, we hohd

:20:22.:20:22.

will reform. For those failings, we hold our hands up and say yes, we

:20:23.:20:23.

hold our hands up and s`y yes, we could have done better,

:20:24.:20:25.

hold our hands up and s`y yes, we could havd done `etter, and we

:20:26.:20:25.

hold our hands up and s`y yes, we could have done better, and we will

:20:26.:20:26.

hold our hands up and s`y yes, we do better. But even with all those

:20:27.:20:28.

hold our hands up and s`y yes, we challenges, isn't the most

:20:29.:20:29.

fundamental truth about the NHS challenges, isn't the most

:20:30.:20:32.

that, like democracy, challenges, isn't the most

:20:33.:20:32.

that, like democpacy, it challenges, isn't the most

:20:33.:20:32.

that, like democracy, it will be the that, likd democpacy, it will be the

:20:33.:20:33.

most perfect solution we will most perfecd solutaon we will dver

:20:34.:20:38.

have? If you believe what you read in the Dailq Mail,

:20:39.:20:40.

have? If you believe what you read in the Daily Mail, and some

:20:41.:20:40.

have? If you believe what you read in the Dailq Mail, and some people

:20:41.:20:40.

in the Dahlq ail, and rome people do, you would think that Labour and

:20:41.:20:42.

in the Dahlq ail, and rome people devolution has been a disaster

:20:43.:20:44.

in the Dahlq ail, and rome people the health cervice in

:20:45.:20:46.

in the Dahlq ail, and rome people the health service in Wales. Well,

:20:47.:20:46.

thare the health service in Wales. Well,

:20:47.:20:50.

there are people here this afternoon who remember what our health service

:20:51.:20:52.

who bemem`eb what our hdalth sdrvice was like the last time the Tories

:20:53.:20:53.

who bemem`eb what our hdalth sdrvice were in charge.

:20:54.:20:56.

who bemem`eb what our hdalth sdrvice were in chabge. Did

:20:57.:20:57.

who bemem`eb what our hdalth sdrvice were in charge. Did you know what

:20:58.:20:58.

were in chabge. Did you know what infant mortality rates

:20:59.:21:00.

were in chabge. Did you know what pre-devolution? 6.4 per thousand

:21:01.:21:04.

were in chabge. Did you know what births. That is now down to four for

:21:05.:21:06.

evarq births. That is now down to four for

:21:07.:21:07.

every 1000 births. births. That is now down to four for

:21:08.:21:08.

evary 1000 birthr. A births. That is now down to four for

:21:09.:21:08.

every 1000 births. A 40% drop births. That is now down to four for

:21:09.:21:09.

evary 1000 birthr. A 40% drop in every 1000 births. A 40% drop in

:21:10.:21:10.

infant mortality since Labour came infant moptality sance Labour bame

:21:11.:21:15.

to power. Cancer survival rates have increased faster in Wales than any

:21:16.:21:21.

other part of the UK, from 60% pre-devolution to nearly 70% today.

:21:22.:21:23.

other part of the UK, from 60% In 1999

:21:24.:21:24.

other part of the UK, from 60% In 1199 we

:21:25.:21:25.

other part of the UK, from 60% In 1999 we spent ?879 for every

:21:26.:21:26.

other part of the UK, from 60% person

:21:27.:21:26.

other part of the UK, from 60% pepson in

:21:27.:21:26.

other part of the UK, from 60% person in Wales on the NHS. Today,

:21:27.:21:29.

that figure is ?1954. We have more that figupe is ?0954. Wd `ave lore

:21:30.:21:33.

than doubled health spending since that figupe is ?0954. Wd `ave lore

:21:34.:21:35.

devolution. There are 4000 more devolutiol. There are 4000 more

:21:36.:21:37.

nurses employed in Wales now devolutiol. There are 4000 more

:21:38.:21:41.

coipared to 1999, and 1000 more devolutiol. There are 4000 more

:21:42.:21:42.

consultants. That is my truth. Let devolutiol. There are 4000 more

:21:43.:21:46.

David Cameron tell you his. Here are David amdron tell you his. Here are

:21:47.:21:48.

a few home truths for the Prime David amdron tell you his. Here are

:21:49.:21:51.

Minister. In England, patience and David amdron tell you his. Here are

:21:52.:21:53.

NHS staff have been let down why a David amdron tell you his. Here are

:21:54.:21:56.

?3 billion top-down David amdron tell you his. Here are

:21:57.:21:56.

?3 balliol dop-down reorganisation ?3 billion top-down reorganisation.

:21:57.:21:57.

It is the kind ?3 billion top-down reorganisation.

:21:58.:22:00.

It ic the kand David ?3 billion top-down reorganisation.

:22:01.:22:01.

It is the kind David Cameron promised would not happen. He also

:22:02.:22:06.

promised that the NHS would see year-on-ydab

:22:07.:22:06.

promised that the NHS would see year-on-year increases in spending,

:22:07.:22:07.

promised that the NHS would see a promise t`at independent analysis

:22:08.:22:10.

promised that the NHS would see shows is completely false. Health

:22:11.:22:13.

trqsds shows is completely false. Health

:22:14.:22:13.

trusts are about to go bust. The shows is completely false. Health

:22:14.:22:18.

audit office sake hospitals are in crisas

:22:19.:22:18.

audit office sake hospitals are in crisis and a fiddle the numbers to

:22:19.:22:20.

audit office sake hospitals are in hit targets.

:22:21.:22:21.

audit office sake hospitals are in hip dargets. Don

:22:22.:22:21.

audit office sake hospitals are in hit targets. Don't you think

:22:22.:22:22.

audit office sake hospitals are in hip dargets. Don you thank they

:22:23.:22:22.

hit targets. Don't you think they should get their

:22:23.:22:23.

hit targets. Don't you think they should get dheir own

:22:24.:22:23.

hit targets. Don't you think they should get their own house

:22:24.:22:24.

hit targets. Don't you think they should get dheir own house in nrder

:22:25.:22:24.

hit targets. Don't you think they before nectar in us? In

:22:25.:22:26.

bedobe nectar in us? In England, primary care budfets

:22:27.:22:27.

bedobe nectar in us? In England, primary care budgets have been

:22:28.:22:28.

slas`ed primary care budgets have been

:22:29.:22:28.

slashed by ?1 billion since the primary care budgets have been

:22:29.:22:30.

Tories got in. 1000 surgeries primary care budgets have been

:22:31.:22:33.

England nnw primary care budgets have been

:22:34.:22:34.

England now shut their doors primary care budgets have been

:22:35.:22:39.

than a few years ago. 7000 clinical staff, including 4000 nurses, have

:22:40.:22:42.

than a few years ago. 7000 clinical been made redundant in England since

:22:43.:22:43.

the coalition took power an the coalition took power in 2010.

:22:44.:22:46.

Fewer doctors, nurses, midwives, the coalition took power in 2010.

:22:47.:22:48.

health visitors, and event staff, healdh visidors, and evdnt staff,

:22:49.:22:53.

qualified scientific, therapeutic and technical staff. How

:22:54.:22:54.

qualified scientific, therapeutic an` dechnhcal staff. How does

:22:55.:22:56.

qualified scientific, therapeutic equal to care? That is exactly what

:22:57.:22:58.

qualified scientific, therapeutic the Francis Report

:22:59.:22:59.

qualified scientific, therapeutic the Francis Repopt warned

:23:00.:22:59.

qualified scientific, therapeutic the Francis Report warned us against

:23:00.:23:00.

qualified scientific, therapeutic doing in the NHS., a Bristol Tory MP

:23:01.:23:05.

qualified scientific, therapeutic rose in the House of Commons

:23:06.:23:06.

qualified scientific, therapeutic rose in the Housd of Commons to

:23:07.:23:07.

rose in the House of Commons to denigrate the Welsh NHS, a coroner

:23:08.:23:09.

rose in the House of Commons to was reporting on the scandal of

:23:10.:23:10.

children, includhng was reporting on the scandal of

:23:11.:23:11.

children, including Welsh children, was reporting on the scandal of

:23:12.:23:14.

dying in their own local children's hospital. What has she said about

:23:15.:23:16.

tha hospital. What has she said about

:23:17.:23:17.

the crisis hospital. What has she said about

:23:18.:23:17.

tha crisis on hospital. What has she said about

:23:18.:23:17.

the crisis on her own hospital. What has she said about

:23:18.:23:18.

Nothang. Make no hospital. What has she said about

:23:19.:23:20.

Nothing. Make no mistake our health hospital. What has she said about

:23:21.:23:21.

services face pressure, hospital. What has she said about

:23:22.:23:26.

sepvices dace pressure, as they have hospital. What has she said about

:23:27.:23:27.

done since the health service was hospital. What has she said about

:23:28.:23:29.

set up. Unlike the Tories, we take hospital. What has she said about

:23:30.:23:32.

no pleasure in these statistics. hospital. What has she said about

:23:33.:23:34.

Unlike the Tories in Westminster, Unlike thd Dories an Westminster, we

:23:35.:23:36.

want the NHS in Wales and Unlike thd Dories an Westminster, we

:23:37.:23:38.

walt the LHS in Wales and England to Unlike thd Dories an Westminster, we

:23:39.:23:38.

thrive. The truth is, Unlike thd Dories an Westminster, we

:23:39.:23:40.

thrife. The truth is, we will not thpife. The truth as, we will not

:23:41.:23:41.

talk the NHS down, but the same talk the LHC dowl, but the samd

:23:42.:23:43.

cannot be said of the talk the LHC dowl, but the samd

:23:44.:23:44.

calnot be said of the Prime talk the LHC dowl, but the samd

:23:45.:23:45.

Minister. talk the LHC dowl, but the samd

:23:46.:23:45.

Minicter. T`e talk the LHC dowl, but the samd

:23:46.:23:46.

Minister. The Tories are not warning people about

:23:47.:23:49.

Minister. The Tories are not warning people abnud ales --

:23:50.:23:50.

Minister. The Tories are not warning people about Wales -- in Wales

:23:51.:23:51.

Minister. The Tories are not warning people abnud ales -- in Wales about

:23:52.:23:51.

the crisis in the health service, people abnud ales -- in Wales about

:23:52.:23:56.

they are willing it to happen on a dailq

:23:57.:23:56.

they are willing it to happen on a daily basis. That is the sort of

:23:57.:23:58.

Govebnment daily basis. That is the sort of

:23:59.:24:00.

Government that exist in Whitehall, an`

:24:01.:24:00.

Government that exist in Whitehall, and that is why we have to make sure

:24:01.:24:02.

thay and that is why we have to make sure

:24:03.:24:02.

they are defeated next xear. and that is why we have to make sure

:24:03.:24:12.

We know they're bogus attacks don't just focus on our health service,

:24:13.:24:15.

We know they're bogus attacks don't but on our schools, colleges and

:24:16.:24:17.

but on our cchools, colleges and students to. Answer me this. How is

:24:18.:24:21.

but on our cchools, colleges and Michael Gove's free schools

:24:22.:24:23.

but on our cchools, colleges and in England? Schools are being set

:24:24.:24:26.

but on our cchools, colleges and in the wrong place. Inside

:24:27.:24:29.

but on our cchools, colleges and substandard buildings with

:24:30.:24:29.

but on our cchools, colleges and unqualified teachers at the helm.

:24:30.:24:31.

but on our cchools, colleges and Some

:24:32.:24:31.

but on our cchools, colleges and Soie have

:24:32.:24:32.

but on our cchools, colleges and Some have been closed already. It is

:24:33.:24:33.

a free-market experiment in Some have been closed already. It is

:24:34.:24:34.

education with parents having the Some have been closed already. It is

:24:35.:24:38.

most buying power. Some have been closed already. It is

:24:39.:24:39.

most buyilg powep. On Some have been closed already. It is

:24:40.:24:40.

qualifications, we Some have been closed already. It is

:24:41.:24:40.

qualafications, ve know Some have been closed already. It is

:24:41.:24:40.

qualifications, we know the changes Some have been closed already. It is

:24:41.:24:41.

we are making will Some have been closed already. It is

:24:42.:24:42.

we abe majing will add Some have been closed already. It is

:24:43.:24:43.

we are making will add rigour Some have been closed already. It is

:24:44.:24:43.

we abe majing will add rigour to Some have been closed already. It is

:24:44.:24:43.

we are making will add rigour to the Some have been closed already. It is

:24:44.:24:44.

system, ensuring pupils Some have been closed already. It is

:24:45.:24:45.

system, ensering pupils are Some have been closed already. It is

:24:46.:24:46.

system, ensuring pupils are ready to meat

:24:47.:24:46.

system, ensuring pupils are ready to meet the opportunities of a

:24:47.:24:47.

system, ensuring pupils are ready to economy. Reform is not easy.

:24:48.:24:50.

system, ensuring pupils are ready to Introducing more rigour into

:24:51.:24:52.

system, ensuring pupils are ready to system will be a heart ,- hard

:24:53.:24:56.

system, ensuring pupils are ready to thing. But these

:24:57.:24:57.

system, ensuring pupils are ready to thing. But dhese are thd

:24:58.:24:57.

system, ensuring pupils are ready to thing. But these are the right

:24:58.:24:58.

system, ensuring pupils are ready to reforms. We are doing right by

:24:59.:25:00.

system, ensuring pupils are ready to children. But what of Michael

:25:01.:25:05.

Gove's changes? A curriculum reform programme

:25:06.:25:05.

Gove's changes? A curriculum reform progbamme being draven by someone

:25:06.:25:07.

Gove's changes? A curriculum reform who think our collective

:25:08.:25:07.

Gove's changes? A curriculum reform understanding of the First World War

:25:08.:25:09.

un`ebstanding of t`e First World War is the result

:25:10.:25:10.

un`ebstanding of t`e First World War is t`e result of

:25:11.:25:11.

un`ebstanding of t`e First World War is the result of a left-wing plot.

:25:12.:25:12.

un`ebstanding of t`e First World War They are incoherent and risk

:25:13.:25:14.

jeopardishng They are incoherent and risk

:25:15.:25:14.

jeopardising a decade's worth of They are incoherent and risk

:25:15.:25:18.

boosting progress. Those criticisms They are incoherent and risk

:25:19.:25:19.

don't come from They are incoherent and risk

:25:20.:25:20.

don't comd from me, but They are incoherent and risk

:25:21.:25:20.

don't come from me, but from They are incoherent and risk

:25:21.:25:24.

great left-wing champions the University of Cambridge, and

:25:25.:25:26.

great left-wing champions the Independent

:25:27.:25:27.

great left-wing champions the In`e`endelt schools

:25:28.:25:27.

great left-wing champions the Independent schools Association. We

:25:28.:25:28.

know we are going in the right Independent schools Association. We

:25:29.:25:30.

direction on education in Wales Independent schools Association. We

:25:31.:25:31.

because the people that matter are Independent schools Association. We

:25:32.:25:33.

telling us that. The Independent schools Association. We

:25:34.:25:38.

Barber, Cambridge University, all Independent schools Association. We

:25:39.:25:42.

telling us that the reform agenda for

:25:43.:25:42.

telling us that the reform agenda fop education

:25:43.:25:43.

telling us that the reform agenda for education is the right one and

:25:44.:25:44.

telling us that the reform agenda we need to stick

:25:45.:25:45.

telling us that the reform agenda we need to ctick to it.

:25:46.:25:46.

telling us that the reform agenda education, we have delivered on our

:25:47.:25:49.

telling us that the reform agenda election pledge, to

:25:50.:25:50.

telling us that the reform agenda elecdion pledge, to increase

:25:51.:25:50.

telling us that the reform agenda spending on our schools

:25:51.:25:51.

telling us that the reform agenda spending nn our rchools bq

:25:52.:25:53.

telling us that the reform agenda 1% above the Welsh block grant. We

:25:54.:25:57.

have delivered the biggest capital have delitebed the biggdst caphtal

:25:58.:25:59.

investment programme in Welsh have delitebed the biggdst caphtal

:26:00.:26:00.

schools eter. have delitebed the biggdst caphtal

:26:01.:26:03.

schools ever. Through our 21st centery

:26:04.:26:04.

schools ever. Through our 21st century schools programme we are

:26:05.:26:05.

investing over ?1.4 billion century schools programme we are

:26:06.:26:07.

investing ofer ?0.4 billion ovdr century schools programme we are

:26:08.:26:07.

investing over ?1.4 billion over the century schools programme we are

:26:08.:26:08.

next six years in century schools programme we are

:26:09.:26:11.

England, the coalition scrapped century schools programme we are

:26:12.:26:14.

labour's Building Schools For The Future

:26:15.:26:14.

labour's Building Schools For The Fupure progbamme.

:26:15.:26:15.

labour's Building Schools For The Future programme. More than

:26:16.:26:16.

labour's Building Schools For The Fupure progbamme. More than 700

:26:17.:26:17.

labour's Building Schools For The school building projects were

:26:18.:26:19.

labour's Building Schools For The cancelled to pay for free

:26:20.:26:22.

labour's Building Schools For The In further education, we have

:26:23.:26:24.

labour's Building Schools For The protected funding for our youngest

:26:25.:26:25.

learners will stop in protected funding for our youngest

:26:26.:26:31.

education, we have ensured income to Wehs`

:26:32.:26:32.

education, we have ensured income to Welsh universities will rise by

:26:33.:26:33.

education, we have ensured income to nearly ?200 million by 2016. Our

:26:34.:26:35.

students will be ?18,000 better off students vill be ?18,000 better off

:26:36.:26:39.

after three years, compared to their after three years, comp`red to their

:26:40.:26:41.

counterparts in England. We want our after three years, comp`red to their

:26:42.:26:46.

young people to have the confidence to secceed and nnt be

:26:47.:26:48.

young people to have the confidence to succeed and not be suffocated by

:26:49.:26:52.

young people to have the confidence debt. When it comes to driving

:26:53.:26:53.

young people to have the confidence de`t. Whel at comes to draving up

:26:54.:26:54.

de`t. Whel it comes to draving up standards, our work has

:26:55.:26:56.

de`t. Whel it comes to draving up relentless, but there is storm water

:26:57.:26:57.

relentlesr, but there is storm water do. For too long the education

:26:58.:27:02.

relentlesr, but there is storm water system in this country

:27:03.:27:04.

relentlesr, but there is storm water accepted near enough as good

:27:05.:27:05.

acce`ted lear ennugh as good enough. But not any more. We will

:27:06.:27:07.

nop enough. But not any more. We will

:27:08.:27:09.

not countenance failure for our young people. We don't share our

:27:10.:27:11.

not countenance failure for our ambitions for all our pupils who

:27:12.:27:13.

not countenance failure for our don't belong in the education

:27:14.:27:15.

don'd belong in the edubation rystem in Wales. We are closing the

:27:16.:27:17.

in Wales. We are closinf the attainment gap with England with

:27:18.:27:18.

in Wales. We are closinf the young people in Wales now getting

:27:19.:27:20.

in Wales. We are closinf the five

:27:21.:27:20.

in Wales. We are closinf the fite good

:27:21.:27:20.

in Wales. We are closinf the five good to CFCs at an

:27:21.:27:23.

in Wales. We are closinf the fite good to CFCs at an all-time

:27:24.:27:23.

in Wales. We are closinf the high. We know our school

:27:24.:27:27.

in Wales. We are closinf the system works. Schools in the bottom

:27:28.:27:30.

in Wales. We are closinf the band increase the number of young

:27:31.:27:31.

in Wales. We are closinf the people getting the number of

:27:32.:27:32.

in Wales. We are closinf the people gettang the numbdr of five

:27:33.:27:34.

people getting the number of five good GCSEs, and that is more young

:27:35.:27:39.

people getting the number of five people succeeding. And there is

:27:40.:27:41.

people subceedinf. And there is more to come. Our new programme will

:27:42.:27:44.

people subceedinf. And there is more invest ?20 million to boost the

:27:45.:27:46.

performanbe of performance of Wales's bottom

:27:47.:27:50.

performing secondary schools. Where performance of Wales's bottom

:27:51.:27:56.

school performance is falling performance of Wales's bottom

:27:57.:27:59.

behind, we will take action. Where professional action is needed, we

:28:00.:28:01.

behind, we will take action. Where will take action. Where

:28:02.:28:02.

behind, we will take action. Where will take action, Where our

:28:03.:28:02.

behind, we will take action. Where will take action. Where our young

:28:03.:28:03.

behind, we will take action. Where people are being let down, we will

:28:04.:28:05.

take action. The fact is, people are being let down, we will

:28:06.:28:09.

turning the corner when it comes to Wehs`

:28:10.:28:10.

turning the corner when it comes to Wehsh edubadion.

:28:11.:28:10.

turning the corner when it comes to Welsh education. And from this task

:28:11.:28:11.

turning the corner when it comes to we will not rest. It is

:28:12.:28:16.

turning the corner when it comes to we will not rest, It is wath a huge

:28:17.:28:17.

turning the corner when it comes to sense of pride that I

:28:18.:28:20.

selse of prade that can tell you that a record number of children are

:28:21.:28:22.

selse of prade that can tell you benefiting from the Flying Start

:28:23.:28:23.

selse of prade that can tell you Project. Our scheme supports

:28:24.:28:25.

selse of prade that can tell you people in our most deprived areas

:28:26.:28:27.

an` people in our most deprived areas

:28:28.:28:27.

and is doing well. Yesterday I people in our most deprived areas

:28:28.:28:30.

visited a Flying Start Project people in our most deprived areas

:28:31.:28:34.

in Llandudno. It was a joy to see in Llandudno. It was a joq to ree

:28:35.:28:36.

the commitment of the staff and in Llandudno. It was a joq to ree

:28:37.:28:39.

positive in Llandudno. It was a joq to ree

:28:40.:28:41.

posidive dffect nn younf children and families. It

:28:42.:28:41.

posidive dffect nn younf children an` familiec. It falled

:28:42.:28:42.

posidive dffect nn younf children and families. It filled me

:28:43.:28:42.

posidive dffect nn younf children pride to know that

:28:43.:28:44.

posidive dffect nn younf children because of Welsh Labour. Governments

:28:45.:28:45.

should be judged on how because of Welsh Labour. Governments

:28:46.:28:52.

those most in need. The Tories have because of Welsh Labour. Governments

:28:53.:28:53.

the bedroom tax. We have because of Welsh Labour. Governments

:28:54.:28:55.

the bedroom tax. We havd the because of Welsh Labour. Governments

:28:56.:28:56.

the bedroom tax. We have the Flying because of Welsh Labour. Governments

:28:57.:28:56.

Start Project. They fail, we Start Project. Theq fail, we

:28:57.:28:57.

deliver. We are

:28:58.:29:07.

Labour, we believe that in the fight We are

:29:08.:29:14.

against child poverty we need to We are

:29:15.:29:15.

break the vicious cycle of We are

:29:16.:29:18.

children having worse health oupcomes,

:29:19.:29:21.

children having worse health outcomes, worse education outcomes

:29:22.:29:21.

children having worse health and poor job prospects when they

:29:22.:29:22.

grow up. Today I share and poor job prospects when they

:29:23.:29:28.

news that is testimony to the and poor job prospects when they

:29:29.:29:32.

success of Welsh Labour policies, in turnang

:29:33.:29:32.

success of Welsh Labour policies, in turning around prospects for our

:29:33.:29:36.

success of Welsh Labour policies, in people. Since we were re-elected as

:29:37.:29:37.

success of Welsh Labour policies, in a Gofernmend

:29:38.:29:38.

success of Welsh Labour policies, in a Government in 2011 we have made

:29:39.:29:38.

tha a Government in 2011 we have made

:29:39.:29:38.

the Welsh economy a Government in 2011 we have made

:29:39.:29:39.

the Welsh economx our a Government in 2011 we have made

:29:40.:29:39.

the Welsh economy our number one tha Welsh economx our ntmber one

:29:40.:29:40.

priority. I explained about the tha Welsh economx our ntmber one

:29:41.:29:43.

success of Jobs Growth Wales but tha Welsh economx our ntmber one

:29:44.:29:45.

that is only part of the picture. I can tell you that by any measure of

:29:46.:29:48.

cal dell xoe that by anx measure of the Welsh economhc turnaround has

:29:49.:29:51.

cal dell xoe that by anx measure of been spectacular. Unemployment is

:29:52.:29:52.

now lower in Wales than the UK been spectacular. Unemployment is

:29:53.:29:58.

whole. Youth unemployment in Wales is below the UK average by 2016, 90

:29:59.:30:01.

is below the K `verage bq 2016, 90 6% of Wales will have access to fast

:30:02.:30:08.

fibre broadband. -- 96%. That will pup Gales

:30:09.:30:09.

fibre broadband. -- 96%. That will put Wales ahead of the USA

:30:10.:30:09.

fibre broadband. -- 96%. That will pup Gales a`ead nf the TSA and

:30:10.:30:10.

put Wales ahead of the USA and Japan as well. As a Government, we took

:30:11.:30:13.

as well. @s a Goternment, we took a conscious decision to restore and

:30:14.:30:15.

as well. @s a Goternment, we took a rebuild Wales's presence abroad

:30:16.:30:16.

re`uald W`les's presence abroad after a number of years when it was

:30:17.:30:18.

re`uald W`les's presence abroad less of a priority. As a response to

:30:19.:30:22.

re`uald W`les's presence abroad the global economic downturn, the

:30:23.:30:23.

re`uald W`les's presence abroad Welsh Labour Government took action.

:30:24.:30:25.

Reasons were simple. We could not Welsh Labour Government took action.

:30:26.:30:29.

wait for the world to come to Wales, we had to go and sell Wales to the

:30:30.:30:30.

we had to go and sell W`les to the world and that is precisely what we

:30:31.:30:32.

we had to go and sell W`les to the did. Of course, it wasn't

:30:33.:30:35.

we had to go and sell W`les to the di`. Of coubse, it wasn't without

:30:36.:30:35.

did. Of course, it wasn't without serious

:30:36.:30:35.

did. Of course, it wasn't without sepious criticism

:30:36.:30:36.

did. Of course, it wasn't without serious criticism from

:30:37.:30:36.

did. Of course, it wasn't without sepious criticism from the Welsh

:30:37.:30:36.

serious criticism from the Welsh Tories who accused the Welsh Labour

:30:37.:30:41.

Partq Tories who accused the Welsh Labour

:30:42.:30:42.

Party of jetsetting. They totally misjudged the situation and not for

:30:43.:30:44.

tha misjudged the situation and not for

:30:45.:30:44.

the first time they were misjudged the situation and not for

:30:45.:30:45.

tha first time theq were proven misjudged the situation and not for

:30:46.:30:48.

wrong. There is no unquestionable misjudged the situation and not for

:30:49.:30:49.

evidence to show that as a misjudged the situation and not for

:30:50.:30:51.

result of Welsh Labour policies anD result of Welsh Labour policies and

:30:52.:30:53.

inpebvention, and result of Welsh Labour policies and

:30:54.:30:54.

intervention, and through our drive result of Welsh Labour policies and

:30:55.:30:54.

to sell Wales to t`e result of Welsh Labour policies and

:30:55.:30:56.

to sell Wales to the world, the result of Welsh Labour policies and

:30:57.:30:59.

Welsh recovery is under way. In Wahec,

:31:00.:30:59.

Welsh recovery is under way. In Wales, we are well placed

:31:00.:31:00.

Welsh recovery is under way. In Walec, we abe well placed to

:31:01.:31:01.

Welsh recovery is under way. In full advaltage od

:31:02.:31:03.

Welsh recovery is under way. In full advantage of any

:31:04.:31:03.

Welsh recovery is under way. In upturn. Wales is a good place to do

:31:04.:31:05.

business. T`at upturn. Wales is a good place to do

:31:06.:31:08.

business. That is why Wales beat off coipetition from

:31:09.:31:08.

business. That is why Wales beat off competition from England and

:31:09.:31:08.

Scotland to host the first Pinewood competition from England and

:31:09.:31:12.

studio outside of London, an competition from England and

:31:13.:31:13.

investment that will bring 2000 new invectment dhat vill bring 2000 new

:31:14.:31:14.

jobs to Wales. Recognition invectment dhat vill bring 2000 new

:31:15.:31:17.

are invectment dhat vill bring 2000 new

:31:18.:31:17.

ara gorld invectment dhat vill bring 2000 new

:31:18.:31:18.

are world leaders entreated industries. Wales is

:31:19.:31:22.

are world leaders entreated do business because we listen to

:31:23.:31:23.

are world leaders entreated business. It is because we listen to

:31:24.:31:25.

are world leaders entreated business that I can announce that

:31:26.:31:27.

are world leaders entreated our economy Minister will next week

:31:28.:31:29.

are world leaders entreated give details of a ?15 million

:31:30.:31:30.

package to cut give details of a ?15 million

:31:31.:31:37.

Wales. Distance of ?1000 on business rapec

:31:38.:31:37.

Wales. Distance of ?1000 on business rates bills, or all qualifying

:31:38.:31:41.

partacipaltc. rates bills, or all qualifying

:31:42.:31:41.

participants. And rates bills, or all qualifying

:31:42.:31:42.

paptacipaltc. And a fund for participants. And a fund for

:31:43.:31:42.

authority participants. And a fund for

:31:43.:31:42.

auphority to participants. And a fund for

:31:43.:31:44.

authority to provide additional auphority to protide additional

:31:45.:31:44.

targeted auphority to protide additional

:31:45.:31:56.

have delivered in Wales raises some auphority to protide additional

:31:57.:31:59.

very serious questions for the very seriouc questaons for the rest

:32:00.:32:01.

of the UK. Contrast is now start. I very seriouc questaons for the rest

:32:02.:32:06.

say to David very seriouc questaons for the rest

:32:07.:32:07.

say do David Cameron and very seriouc questaons for the rest

:32:08.:32:07.

say to David Cameron and the Tory le` Government

:32:08.:32:08.

say to David Cameron and the Tory led Government in London, you

:32:09.:32:09.

say to David Cameron and the Tory to do better for the UK. You need to

:32:10.:32:14.

up your game and deliver on the UK economy just like Labour is doing

:32:15.:32:15.

here in Wales. And while on economy just like Labour is doing

:32:16.:32:26.

subject of the economy, the economy just like Labour is doing

:32:27.:32:28.

subject od dhe economy, the economy subject of the economy, the economy

:32:29.:32:29.

covers subject of the economy, the economy

:32:30.:32:30.

covebs on subject of the economy, the economy

:32:31.:32:30.

covers on the 22nd of May Wales subject of the economy, the economy

:32:31.:32:31.

covebs on t`e 22nd of May Wales and covers on the 22nd of May Wales and

:32:32.:32:31.

tha covers on the 22nd of May Wales and

:32:32.:32:31.

the UK will vote crucial European covers on the 22nd of May Wales and

:32:32.:32:35.

elections. I want to offer the best of luck to Derek, Bane, Alex

:32:36.:32:36.

elections. I want to offer the best of luck to Derek, Jane, Alex and

:32:37.:32:37.

elections. I want to offer the best Chpis on their campaign

:32:38.:32:38.

elections. I want to offer the best Chris on their campaign so far. We

:32:39.:32:39.

elections. I want to offer the best will give you all the support you

:32:40.:32:40.

need over the coming will give you all the support you

:32:41.:32:42.

today I just want to set out for you will give you all the support you

:32:43.:32:44.

why the UK'songoing membership of will give you all the support you

:32:45.:32:49.

the EU is so important to will give you all the support you

:32:50.:32:50.

tha EU is so important to us hdre In will give you all the support you

:32:51.:32:54.

Wales. Unfortunately, the loudest noises in the entire EU debate at

:32:55.:32:56.

tha moment noises in the entire EU debate at

:32:57.:32:56.

the moment seem to enemy from noises in the entire EU debate at

:32:57.:32:58.

tha moment ceem to enemx from LittLe the moment seem to enemy from Little

:32:59.:32:58.

England Nataonal ice, people who England National ice, people who

:32:59.:33:00.

would do untold damage to Wales if England National ice, people who

:33:01.:33:02.

they ever had their way and took us England National ice, people who

:33:03.:33:04.

out of the European Union. -- little out of thd Europdan nion. -- little

:33:05.:33:06.

England nationalists. They think the out of thd Europdan nion. -- little

:33:07.:33:11.

conflict in Ukraine is the fault of tha

:33:12.:33:11.

conflict in Ukraine is the fault of the EU. No doubt if England

:33:12.:33:13.

the EU. No doubt if ngland don't win the World Cup this

:33:14.:33:15.

the EU. No doubt if ngland don't will be the fault of the EU as well.

:33:16.:33:18.

If Plaid Bymru eter will be the fault of the EU as well.

:33:19.:33:18.

If Plaid Cymru ever had away and will be the fault of the EU as well.

:33:19.:33:19.

took us out of the British union, will be the fault of the EU as well.

:33:20.:33:21.

that would also create untold damage will be the fault of the EU as well.

:33:22.:33:24.

fop Gales, Dhe message we will be the fault of the EU as well.

:33:25.:33:25.

for Wales. The message we must send will be the fault of the EU as well.

:33:26.:33:27.

oup as simple. Nataonalism will be the fault of the EU as well.

:33:28.:33:27.

out is simple. Nationalism in whatever guise is not in Wales's

:33:28.:33:29.

interest. When it comes to Europe, inperest. W`en it comes to Europe,

:33:30.:33:34.

amidst all this noise from the sceptics, it

:33:35.:33:35.

amidst all this noise from the scaptics, it is

:33:36.:33:35.

amidst all this noise from the sceptics, it is difficult to have a

:33:36.:33:36.

scepdics, id is difficult to h`ve a sensible debate about

:33:37.:33:37.

scepdics, id is difficult to h`ve a selsable debate `bout the very

:33:38.:33:37.

scepdics, id is difficult to h`ve a benefits that member ship of the EU

:33:38.:33:39.

scepdics, id is difficult to h`ve a brings to Wales. Wales has always

:33:40.:33:41.

been a proudly European brings to Wales. Wales has always

:33:42.:33:44.

bean a proudly Etropean country. WE been a proudly European country. We

:33:45.:33:44.

have been a proudly European country. We

:33:45.:33:45.

hate always seen the very real have alwaxs seen t`e very real

:33:46.:33:46.

benefits of being part of benefits nf beinf part nf the vider

:33:47.:33:48.

European ideal with Eupo`ean hdeal wit` shared values

:33:49.:33:49.

and principles. Wales benefits in an` principles. Vales bdnefits in

:33:50.:33:52.

other ways as well. Europe is an` principles. Vales bdnefits in

:33:53.:33:55.

largest trading partner with over an` principles. Vales bdnefits in

:33:56.:33:57.

600 companies in Wales dxporting 600 compalies in Wales dxporting

:33:58.:33:59.

goods and services worth 5000 ,- 600 compalies in Wales dxporting

:34:00.:34:05.

billion per year to our neighbours. billion pdr year to our neighbnurs.

:34:06.:34:07.

Many Welsh jobs depend on billion pdr year to our neighbnurs.

:34:08.:34:09.

trade with the rest of billion pdr year to our neighbnurs.

:34:10.:34:11.

Economically, we billion pdr year to our neighbnurs.

:34:12.:34:11.

Economicallq, we can't billion pdr year to our neighbnurs.

:34:12.:34:11.

Economically, we can't afford to billion pdr year to our neighbnurs.

:34:12.:34:14.

leave and it is time we had a proper debade

:34:15.:34:14.

leave and it is time we had a proper de`ade abnut

:34:15.:34:14.

leave and it is time we had a proper debate about the very serious

:34:15.:34:17.

consequenbec debate about the very serious

:34:18.:34:18.

consequences that withdrawal would debate about the very serious

:34:19.:34:19.

have on the very fabric of Welsh life. So, conference, we cnOw

:34:20.:34:25.

have on the very fabric of Welsh our record stands proudly

:34:26.:34:26.

oup becord ctandr proudly against the record of the Tory led

:34:27.:34:27.

oup becord ctandr proudly against Government.

:34:28.:34:30.

oup becord ctandr proudly against Goternment. We

:34:31.:34:31.

oup becord ctandr proudly against Government. We have made the tough

:34:32.:34:32.

choices thad Government. We have made the tough

:34:33.:34:32.

choices that the Tory Government. We have made the tough

:34:33.:34:33.

choices thad the Tory budget Government. We have made the tough

:34:34.:34:34.

require of us. We have Government. We have made the tough

:34:35.:34:35.

requare od us. Wd have done Government. We have made the tough

:34:36.:34:36.

require of us. We have done so with require od es. Wd `ave done so with

:34:37.:34:36.

our values and forming each require od es. Wd `ave done so with

:34:37.:34:40.

decision, each decision we have had to take but we all know the year of

:34:41.:34:42.

hard decisions is not over. to take but we all know the year of

:34:43.:34:44.

want to be the to take but we all know the year of

:34:45.:34:45.

want to be dhe party of Governlent to take but we all know the year of

:34:46.:34:46.

you can never be the party of the to take but we all know the year of

:34:47.:34:49.

status quo. There are challenges ahead for us as a party and a

:34:50.:34:50.

ahead for uc as ` party and a Government. The era of this

:34:51.:34:53.

ahead for uc as ` party and a terratory ic

:34:54.:34:53.

ahead for uc as ` party and a territory is not

:34:54.:34:54.

ahead for uc as ` party and a terratory ic not over

:34:55.:34:54.

ahead for uc as ` party and a territory is not over and we can't

:34:55.:34:54.

pratend territory is not over and we can't

:34:55.:34:58.

pretend that our public services to`aq

:34:59.:34:58.

pretend that our public services todaq can be

:34:59.:34:59.

pretend that our public services today can be unaltered tomorrow. --

:35:00.:34:59.

tha today can be unaltered tomorrow. --

:35:00.:35:00.

the era of austerity. One report today can be unaltered tomorrow. --

:35:01.:35:04.

says heavily on my desk setting out today can be unaltered tomorrow. --

:35:05.:35:08.

a blueprint for the future of public servaces hn Wales.

:35:09.:35:08.

a blueprint for the future of public services in Wales. We must be brave

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a blueprint for the future of public enough to act on it. The report

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a blueprint for the future of public matters, reform matters.

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a blueprint for the future of public matters, peform latters. We

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a blueprint for the future of public matters, reform matters. We have

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matters, peform latters. We have to act on this. The William's report is

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nop, act on this. The William's report is

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not, as the media like to act on this. The William's report is

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characterise it, a report into local government, it is the most

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characterise it, a report into local fundamental examination and

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characterise it, a report into local reappraisal of public service

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delivery reappraisal of public service

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dehivery in Wales reappraisal of public service

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delivery in Wales since devolution. Tha

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delivery in Wales since devolution. The children of Wales that

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delivery in Wales since devolution. -- the children of Wales deserve

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-- t`e children nf Wales deserve world-class education. A system

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-- t`e children nf Wales deserve wopld-class educataon. A system that

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world-class education. A system that is no longer fit for purpose

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world-class education. A system that is no longeb fit for purpose is

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is no longer fit for purpose is harmang

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is no longer fit for purpose is harming our chances at education.

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is no longer fit for purpose is know you sure microstation as well.

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That we are not getting the more know you sure microstation as well.

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quickly. So I want to know you sure microstation as well.

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quiccly. Ro I want to thank know you sure microstation as well.

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quickly. So I want to thank those know you sure microstation as well.

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leaders today for working with us to know you sure microstation as well.

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develop a new national know you sure microstation as well.

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for improvement that will formally begin its work on Monday. -- I know

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begin its work ol Mondax. -- I know you share that vision as well. That

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is w`at you share that vision as well. That

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is what we can do together. It you share that vision as well. That

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is w`at we can do together. It is is what we can do together. It is

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not is what we can do together. It is

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nop an is what we can do together. It is

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not an end in itself. It is a not an end in itself. It as a

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beginning. What is beginning, Ghat hs the big worry if

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you you ask. Why do this now? After is(

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you you ask. Why do this now? After is, I believe in the power of local

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govebnments is, I believe in the power of local

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governments to deliver. To be is, I believe in the power of local

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radical. To transform lives and is, I believe in the power of local

:36:18.:36:19.

communities. We are seeing on a is, I believe in the power of local

:36:20.:36:20.

daily basis councils and local is, I believe in the power of local

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communities working is, I believe in the power of local

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services going. We can't be is, I believe in the power of local

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sepvaces goang. We can't be afraid is, I believe in the power of local

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of that democratisation of public is, I believe in the power of local

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services, in fact we must embrace it. I started

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services, in fact we must embrace it. I stapted my

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services, in fact we must embrace it. I started my political life as a

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coqncillop it. I started my political life as a

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councillor an Bridgend. I know it. I started my political life as a

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it is like to be frustrated by a it. I started my political life as a

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lack of power, flexibility and it. I started my political life as a

:36:38.:36:38.

resources. To it. I started my political life as a

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resoerces. Do deliver the it. I started my political life as a

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resources. To deliver the change neaded in local bommunities.

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resources. To deliver the change needed in local communities. I

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resources. To deliver the change neaded in local bommunities. I want

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needed in local communities. I want to address that. I believe in

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to addresr dhat. I believe in devolution, not just as a transfer

:36:46.:36:47.

to addresr dhat. I believe in of power from Westminster to Wales

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to addresr dhat. I believe in but from the Welsh Government to

:36:50.:36:51.

local comlunities. but from the Welsh Government to

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local communities. Devolution after but from the Welsh Government to

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all is a labour invention. Because it ic

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all is a labour invention. Because it is a Labour invention. We cannot

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allow it is a Labour invention. We cannot

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alhow that it is a Labour invention. We cannot

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allow that argued to be it is a Labour invention. We cannot

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institutions. The devolution we believe in is more about

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believe il as mope about movinf power away from the centre, closer

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believe il as mope about movinf to people. The truth is, our current

:37:06.:37:08.

system of local government is system of local fovernmdnt is

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creaking and needs reform. To be abhe

:37:14.:37:13.

creaking and needs reform. To be able to exebcise more

:37:14.:37:14.

creaking and needs reform. To be able to exercise more power,

:37:15.:37:14.

creaking and needs reform. To be councils lust

:37:15.:37:14.

creaking and needs reform. To be councils must be more stable and

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more robust. It was once said more roburt. t vas once said

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devolution is the process, not an evand.

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devolution is the process, not an event. That is true. It stops

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evend. Th`t is tpue. It stops not at the door of the Senate that applies

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evend. Th`t is tpue. It stops not at to our councils. It is inherent on

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evend. Th`t is tpue. It stops not at us as a party to face up to the

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challenge to craft a new challenge to cradt a new governance

:37:31.:37:32.

structure for Wales, not to satisfy challenge to cradt a new governance

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the constitutional obsessives, but challenge to cradt a new governance

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to equip this challenge to cradt a new governance

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to eauip thas small country with to equip this small country with

:37:40.:37:39.

evarq levdl to equip this small country with

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every level of effective Government to equip this small country with

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that it needs to deliver world,class to equip this small country with

:37:43.:37:44.

services to our people. Democratic to equip this small country with

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accountability is a matter for us as accoentabhlaty is a matter for us as

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a party because I want to congratulate Ed Miliband on his

:37:53.:37:53.

party reform programme and I want to papty reform programme `nd I want to

:37:54.:37:55.

put on record my support for Welsh papty reform programme `nd I want to

:37:56.:37:59.

Labour to adopt the one member, ona-fote

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Labour to adopt the one member, one-vote system for future in the

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elections. Conference, the battle lines are

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drawn. The Conservative Conference, the battle lines are

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ignores Scotland and targets Wales. The Tory party of today

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ignores Scotland and targets Wales. forgotten what it is to be British.

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Thay forgotten what it is to be British.

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They are no longer a British party. forgotten what it is to be British.

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Only the Labour Party can represent forgotten what it is to be British.

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communities up and down Wales and coimunities up ald down Wales `nd

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across the UK. So, it is Welsh Labour versus the London Tories. It

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Laboer vepses thd London Tories. It is the people of Wales

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is t`e people of Wales versus conservative Central office. It is

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colservative entral office. It is truth versus spin. It is delivery

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colservative entral office. It is versus failure. This is a fight we

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must win. For oup children, versus failure. This is a fight we

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must win. For our children, for versus failure. This is a fight we

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communities and versus failure. This is a fight we

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coimenities and for versus failure. This is a fight we

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communities and for our NHS. So when versus failure. This is a fight we

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you go home tomorrow, to every versus failure. This is a fight we

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corner of Wales, versus failure. This is a fight we

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copner of Wales, tell people versus failure. This is a fight we

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This is a fight for the people of versus failure. This is a fight we

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Wales. And this is a fight, a fight versus failure. This is a fight we

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that Welsh Labour versus failure. This is a fight we

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that Welsh Laboup will win. Th`nk versus failure. This is a fight we

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you. APPLAU E

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yoq. APPLAUSE

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A standing ovation for Carwyn Jones. What did you make of that?

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A standing ovation for Carwyn Jones. mope or less

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A standing ovation for Carwyn Jones. more or less this beach we expected.

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A standing ovation for Carwyn Jones. A lot

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A standing ovation for Carwyn Jones. A hod of

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A standing ovation for Carwyn Jones. A lot of Tory bashing and

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A standing ovation for Carwyn Jones. A hod of Tory bashang and not much

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A standing ovation for Carwyn Jones. mention of the other parties. UKIP

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A standing ovation for Carwyn Jones. got a mention. It was again an

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A standing ovation for Carwyn Jones. attempt to portray this battle. He

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put fery attempt to portray this battle. He

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put very succinctly at the end, he said it is the Welsh people versus

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put very succinctly at the end, he Tory Central office.

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put very succinctly at the end, he Topy Central office. Welsh

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put very succinctly at the end, he Tory Central office. Welsh Labour

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against the Tory spin m`chiNe. The against the Tory spin machine. The

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stradegy against the Tory spin machine. The

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stpadegy hs very clear. against the Tory spin machine. The

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strategy is very clear. But there was some tricky things he had to get

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through. The passage on the health throegh. The pasrage on t`e health

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service he was very bullish about the

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service he was very bullish about tha `ealth

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service he was very bullish about the health service committee had to

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into account the fact that some of the fiercest critics of his record

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tha fiercesd critics of has record on health, one of them is the senior

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Laboer on health, one of them is the senior

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Labour MP in Wales. Someone in the on health, one of them is the senior

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same party. So it was great a saie party. So it was great a tricky

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thing because he had to admit that saie party. So it was great a tricky

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there were problems, that there were challenges, that c`anges

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there were problems, that there were challenges, that changes had to

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there were problems, that there were challenges, that c`anges `ad to be

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challenges, that changes had to be ma`e, that dhere have been

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made, that there have been mistakes and failures. So it

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made, that there have been mistakes and failupes. So it could not

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made, that there have been mistakes and failures. So it could not be

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an` failupec. So it could not be just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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speech, it had to be just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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times and I think by just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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timec and I think by and large he just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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pulled it off. For too just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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education system in this country has just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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coasted. We have heard him say that just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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they took just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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thay took t`eir just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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they took their eye off the ball just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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bedobe. Ape just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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before. Are the voters going to just a ralbenctious barnstorming

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think, it is yours fault that think, it ic youps fault that xou

:41:13.:41:14.

took your eye off the think, it ic youps fault that xou

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took your eqe off the b`ll. It is think, it ic youps fault that xou

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took your eye off the ball. It is a problem. Senior figures in the Welsh

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took your eye off the ball. It is a Laboer Party think

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took your eye off the ball. It is a Labour Party think that part of the

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took your eye off the ball. It is a problem they have withheld at the

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moment is that the former Education Minicter

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moment is that the former Education Minister from the early days of the

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Assembly is no longer Minister from the early days of the

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Assembly and Carwyn Jones can say, we took our eye off the ball, he can

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Assembly and Carwyn Jones can say, do the same about `ealth

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Assembly and Carwyn Jones can say, do the same about health because the

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woien who do the same about health because the

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women who was in charge of health women who was in c`arge of health

:41:36.:41:37.

and early years of women who was in c`arge of health

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still in the Cabinet. That is women who was in c`arge of health

:41:40.:41:40.

Hutt. So the length of time that women who was in c`arge of health

:41:41.:41:45.

they have been in office is causing tham

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they have been in office is causing them problems. Governments love to

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they have been in office is causing be able to blame predecessors. It

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they have been in office is causing getting very difficult to do

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they have been in office is causing geptang verq difdicult to do that.

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getting very difficult to do that. Tha

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getting very difficult to do that. The predecessors he is having to

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Tha `redececsors he is having to blame are former Assembly ministers

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Tha `redececsors he is having to from his party who are no longer

:41:58.:41:58.

from his pabty who are no longdr in the Assembly. And when they are

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still there, it is even more the Assembly. And when they are

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problematic! Interesting that the Assembly. And when they are

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big devolution announcement came big devolutaon alnouncement cale

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from Ed Miliband and not the First from Ed Milaband and not the Fhrst

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Minister. Yes. The constitutional from Ed Milaband and not the Fhrst

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arrangements are decided from Ed Milaband and not the Fhrst

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Westminster. In a sense, everyone from Ed Milaband and not the Fhrst

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knows what Carwyn Jones was because from Ed Milaband and not the Fhrst

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he set it out in from Ed Milaband and not the Fhrst

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evidence to the Silk Commission. So from Ed Milaband and not the Fhrst

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that had to come from from Ed Milaband and not the Fhrst

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rather than from Carwyn Jones. Thank from Ed Milaband and not the Fhrst

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you for now. Let's go back from Ed Milaband and not the Fhrst

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Llandudno with James who has some delegates.

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Thanc delegates.

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Thank you. I am joined by Thanc you. I am hoaned by two

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prospective Parliamentary candidate pros`ectite Parliamentary candhdate

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for the Labour Party. You are pros`ectite Parliamentary candhdate

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standing in the Vale standing hn the Tale of Glamorgan.

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What did you make of this beach? It standing hn the Tale of Glamorgan.

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was quite arousing. -- what was auite abousilg. -- vhat did you

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make of the speech? It covered was auite abousilg. -- vhat did you

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everything. Devolution and also was auite abousilg. -- vhat did you

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Westminster end. It really did hit was auite abousilg. -- vhat did you

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home that yes, we are hoie that yes, we are abknowledging

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that we have to do more and improve hoie that yes, we are abknowledging

:43:04.:43:05.

on things across services and hoie that yes, we are abknowledging

:43:06.:43:07.

continue the investment we are doing contanue the invdstment we are doing

:43:08.:43:08.

as a Welsh Government. But contanue the invdstment we are doing

:43:09.:43:09.

as a Welsh Goverlment. But really, as a Welsh Government. But really,

:43:10.:43:11.

if they want to have this attack on as a Welsh Government. But really,

:43:12.:43:13.

wheels and the people of Wales, they as a Welsh Government. But really,

:43:14.:43:15.

need to rethink their focus. We as a Welsh Government. But really,

:43:16.:43:17.

had concerted attacks from had concepted attacks from

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Conservative ministers in recent had concepted attacks from

:43:23.:43:24.

weeks and had concepted attacks from

:43:25.:43:24.

weekc and also had concepted attacks from

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weeks and also from elements had concepted attacks from

:43:25.:43:24.

weekc and also fpom elements of the weeks and also from elements of the

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righd-winf weeks and also from elements of the

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right-wing press. Do you think they weeks and also from elements of the

:43:27.:43:27.

are cutting through and doing damage weeks and also from elements of the

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to the Labour Party? I don't think so.

:43:32.:43:31.

to the Labour Party? I don't think so, Dhe

:43:32.:43:31.

to the Labour Party? I don't think so. The people of Wales can see

:43:32.:43:32.

to the Labour Party? I don't think through it. Why do you need to

:43:33.:43:35.

address it through it. Why do you need to

:43:36.:43:35.

ad`ress it dhen? through it. Why do you need to

:43:36.:43:37.

address it then? We have to say that ad`ress it dhen? We havd to sax that

:43:38.:43:38.

what we are doing in Wales is what we are doinf an Wales is

:43:39.:43:41.

delivering for the people of Wales. Still have to get the message

:43:42.:43:43.

delivering for the people of Wales. and say that we are improving

:43:44.:43:45.

and cay thad we `re improving educational standards, improving the

:43:46.:43:46.

and cay thad we `re improving health service and saying, you can

:43:47.:43:49.

and cay thad we `re improving go on the attack but the truth of

:43:50.:43:50.

tha go on the attack but the truth of

:43:51.:43:51.

the matter is very go on the attack but the truth of

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tha mattep as vepy different. go on the attack but the truth of

:43:52.:43:52.

the matter is very different. It is aboud

:43:53.:43:52.

the matter is very different. It is about highlighting the

:43:53.:43:54.

the matter is very different. It is that what the Wels`

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the matter is very different. It is that what the Welsh Government are

:43:56.:43:55.

the matter is very different. It is doing. He mentioned a few failings.

:43:56.:43:59.

doing. He mentioled a few failings. He admitted that wath

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doing. He mentioled a few failings. He admitted that with regard

:44:03.:44:02.

doing. He mentioled a few failings. He admitted that wath regard to

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doing. He mentioled a few failings. health and education. But he said we

:44:04.:44:06.

doing. He mentioled a few failings. are turning the corner when it comes

:44:07.:44:08.

to education. Some people might hear are turning the corner when it comes

:44:09.:44:11.

that phrase and say, you have been running the education service since

:44:12.:44:13.

that phrase and say, you have been 1899. Why abe you

:44:14.:44:15.

that phrase and say, you have been 1899. Why are you only turning the

:44:16.:44:18.

that phrase and say, you have been corner now? He is saying that we are

:44:19.:44:19.

going to continue improving corner now? He is saying that we are

:44:20.:44:23.

education. We corner now? He is saying that we are

:44:24.:44:24.

education in the Vale of Glamorgan. corner now? He is saying that we are

:44:25.:44:26.

We are looking at corner now? He is saying that we are

:44:27.:44:27.

We abe looking at a corner now? He is saying that we are

:44:28.:44:28.

We are looking at a new way of corner now? He is saying that we are

:44:29.:44:29.

delivering education services in deliverinf education servaces hn

:44:30.:44:30.

Wales and I think that has been deliverinf education servaces hn

:44:31.:44:36.

acknowledged. He also touched on the Wihlaams

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acknowledged. He also touched on the Williams commission

:44:38.:44:38.

acknowledged. He also touched on the Wihliams commisshon and said

:44:39.:44:38.

acknowledged. He also touched on the Williams commission and said it is a

:44:39.:44:39.

acknowledged. He also touched on the weighty document

:44:40.:44:39.

acknowledged. He also touched on the weighty docement sittinf

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acknowledged. He also touched on the weighty document sitting on his

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acknowledged. He also touched on the but we need to act on it. Do you

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acknowledged. He also touched on the believe that

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acknowledged. He also touched on the believe thad what

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acknowledged. He also touched on the believe that what is

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acknowledged. He also touched on the believe thad what as proposed

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acknowledged. He also touched on the believe that what is proposed in

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acknowledged. He also touched on the that document is the right way

:44:47.:44:47.

acknowledged. He also touched on the forward for local Government

:44:48.:44:50.

fopward for local Government and that the Welsh Government needs to

:44:51.:44:53.

fopward for local Government and act swiftly? We need to look at

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acp cwiftly? e leed to look at how we delivep local Governlent.

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acp cwiftly? e leed to look at how we deliver local Government. We need

:44:57.:44:56.

to look at what we are delivering on we deliver local Government. We need

:44:57.:45:00.

a local Government we deliver local Government. We need

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a hocal Government level we deliver local Government. We need

:45:01.:45:01.

a local Government level in terms of tha

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a local Government level in terms of the weighty

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a local Government level in terms of the geighty doculent,

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a local Government level in terms of the weighty document, yes, it is 100

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pagec the weighty document, yes, it is 100

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pages just for the cover document. pagec just for the cover documdnt.

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Moving fopward, pagec just for the cover documdnt.

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Moving forward, we know in pagec just for the cover documdnt.

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Government we have to seek reform, pagec just for the cover documdnt.

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but how we get there is the next stage over the coming months and

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but how we get there is the next years. We turn now to Joe Stephens,

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tha candidate years. We turn now to Joe Stephens,

:45:19.:45:19.

the candidate for Cardiff Central. years. We turn now to Joe Stephens,

:45:20.:45:21.

He has covered a lot of themes He has cotebed a lot of t`emes

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there. What stuck out He has cotebed a lot of t`emes

:45:24.:45:24.

thare. Wh`t stuck out for He has cotebed a lot of t`emes

:45:25.:45:25.

there. What stuck out for you? The He has cotebed a lot of t`emes

:45:26.:45:26.

line truth against He has cotebed a lot of t`emes

:45:27.:45:27.

lile truth against spin. He has cotebed a lot of t`emes

:45:28.:45:28.

line truth against spin. What He has cotebed a lot of t`emes

:45:29.:45:28.

lile truth against spin. What ve line truth against spin. What we

:45:29.:45:28.

have seen over line truth against spin. What we

:45:29.:45:30.

have seen ofer the last line truth against spin. What we

:45:31.:45:31.

have seen over the last few weeks is an attack on Wales. It is not an

:45:32.:45:34.

atpack an attack on Wales. It is not an

:45:35.:45:34.

attack on the people of Wales, it is an attack on Wales. It is not an

:45:35.:45:37.

an adtack on our an attack on Wales. It is not an

:45:38.:45:38.

an attack on our country, our Govebnment.

:45:39.:45:38.

an attack on our country, our Government. You heard some stuff

:45:39.:45:40.

to`aq Government. You heard some stuff

:45:41.:45:40.

todaq about Government. You heard some stuff

:45:41.:45:40.

today about infant mortality rates to`ay about infalt mortalaty rates

:45:41.:45:43.

which are doing much better in Wahec. We

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which are doing much better in Wales. We have got better

:45:45.:45:45.

which are doing much better in survival

:45:46.:45:45.

which are doing much better in supvaval pades,

:45:46.:45:45.

which are doing much better in survival rates, we have employed

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more. This and nurses, so it is a survival rates, we have employed

:45:47.:45:54.

question of truth against spin. We survival rates, we have employed

:45:55.:45:56.

need to put the truth out there nead to ptt the truth out there

:45:57.:45:58.

because nobody else is going nead to ptt the truth out there

:45:59.:46:00.

becaese nobody else is goang to nead to ptt the truth out there

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it. And yet the First Minister nead to ptt the truth out there

:46:02.:46:05.

admits there are elements of truth in what the

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admits there are elements of truth in w`at the attabks

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admits there are elements of truth in what the attacks that are coming

:46:07.:46:07.

in w`at the attabks that are coming fairway say. What he

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in w`at the attabks that are coming fairgay s`y. What `e sahd

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in w`at the attabks that are coming fairway say. What he said was that

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in w`at the attabks that are coming we always need to make improvements.

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in w`at the attabks that are coming The NHS will never be perfect.

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The NHS will nevdr be pdrfect. The demands on the NHS are getting

:46:13.:46:14.

demands ol dhe NHS are fetting greater and data. We have an ageing

:46:15.:46:16.

populatiol. greater and data. We have an ageing

:46:17.:46:18.

population. There is a big public health issue in Wales, and Labour is

:46:19.:46:22.

doing their best in difficult circemstalces

:46:23.:46:22.

doing their best in difficult circumstances with big funding

:46:23.:46:24.

doing their best in difficult from the UK

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doing their best in difficult from the TK Govepnment. He mentioned

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a lot from the TK Govepnment. He mentioned

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a lod of from the TK Govepnment. He mentioned

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a lot of policy achievements - unam`loymdnd

:46:31.:46:33.

a lot of policy achievements - unemployment figures and

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a lot of policy achievements - unemploymdnd figures and so on,

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unemployment figures and so on, and is he right to champion that as a

:46:36.:46:37.

unemployment figures and so on, and Welsh Government victory?

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unemployment figures and so on, and we have got Jobs

:46:42.:46:43.

unemployment figures and so on, and equivalent scheme in England has

:46:44.:46:45.

unemployment figures and so on, and been a disaster in comparison. We

:46:46.:46:47.

unemployment figures and so on, and hate turned the

:46:48.:46:48.

unemployment figures and so on, and have turned the economy around in

:46:49.:46:50.

unemployment figures and so on, and Wales. The Government in Westminster

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unemployment figures and so on, and needs to look at what he has done

:46:52.:46:54.

unemployment figures and so on, and here and learn some lessons. But how

:46:55.:46:56.

unemployment figures and so on, and can it be the UK Government's fault

:46:57.:46:58.

whan can it be the UK Government's fault

:46:59.:46:58.

when the economy has can it be the UK Government's fault

:46:59.:46:59.

when the dconomy has not been can it be the UK Government's fault

:47:00.:47:00.

performing so can it be the UK Government's fault

:47:01.:47:00.

pepforming co well when can it be the UK Government's fault

:47:01.:47:03.

kick then? We have had a can it be the UK Government's fault

:47:04.:47:08.

economy for three years and that is economy for three qears and th`t is

:47:09.:47:13.

down to the Treasury policy in the UK. In Wales we have delivered on

:47:14.:47:16.

down to the Treasury policy in the the promises. We promised

:47:17.:47:19.

improvements on youth unemployment, an`

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improvements on youth unemployment, and we now have the lowest and

:47:20.:47:21.

improvements on youth unemployment, implement rates so we are delivering

:47:22.:47:26.

on our promises. He also mentioned tha

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on our promises. He also mentioned the tuition fees policy and have

:47:27.:47:28.

that is very different the tuition fees policy and have

:47:29.:47:29.

that is verq difderent bompared to the tuition fees policy and have

:47:30.:47:31.

England. You are standing in a the tuition fees policy and have

:47:32.:47:33.

constituency that has a high the tuition fees policy and have

:47:34.:47:34.

consdituelcq that `as a hagh student constituency that has a high student

:47:35.:47:35.

populatiol. constituency that has a high student

:47:36.:47:36.

population. How is that claim on the doorstep? It is a

:47:37.:47:40.

population. How is that claim on the doorctep? Id is a massive

:47:41.:47:41.

population. How is that claim on the doorstep? It is a massive issue. The

:47:42.:47:42.

population. How is that claim on the Lib Dems promised one thing and

:47:43.:47:44.

Li` Dems promised one thing and did the opposite, and people have

:47:45.:47:46.

Li` Dems promised one thing and did forgotten that. You

:47:47.:47:47.

Li` Dems promised one thing and did fopgotten t`at. Xou have

:47:48.:47:47.

Li` Dems promised one thing and did forgotten that. You have a

:47:48.:47:48.

Li` Dems promised one thing and did fopgotten t`at. Xou have a situatiOn

:47:49.:47:48.

forgotten that. You have a situation in Wales, for example at Cardiff

:47:49.:47:50.

forgotten that. You have a situation University, you have

:47:51.:47:52.

forgotten that. You have a situation sitting in the same lecture. The

:47:53.:47:54.

English student is paying ?9,000 a English student hs paying ?9,000 a

:47:55.:47:56.

year and the Welsh student is English student hs paying ?9,000 a

:47:57.:47:58.

year and the Welsh studdnt is payiNg English student hs paying ?9,000 a

:47:59.:47:58.

?3000. And that English student hs paying ?9,000 a

:47:59.:48:00.

?300 . And dhat is English student hs paying ?9,000 a

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student voters English student hs paying ?9,000 a

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stqdent vnters towards English student hs paying ?9,000 a

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student voters towards the Labour Partq?

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student voters towards the Labour Party? Absolutely. What are

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student voters towards the Labour responding to positively west to

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student voters towards the Labour mark the energy freeze. It is a

:48:11.:48:14.

mapk the dnergy dreeze. It is ` bold policy that Labour made in their

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conference last year policy that Labour made in their

:48:17.:48:16.

colference last year and policy that Labour made in their

:48:17.:48:17.

conference last year and it policy that Labour made in their

:48:18.:48:17.

colference last year and it has conference last year and it has gone

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down really well. Companies conference last year and it has gone

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saying the lights are going out, this is never going to work, and now

:48:22.:48:24.

saying the lights are going out, SSE have frozen their prices. And

:48:25.:48:28.

saying the lights are going out, what about dhe

:48:29.:48:28.

saying the lights are going out, what about the policy areas people

:48:29.:48:29.

what about dhe pnlacy areas people are not so pleased about? I have not

:48:30.:48:34.

are not sn `leasdd about? I have not had any negative feedback about

:48:35.:48:36.

are not sn `leasdd about? I have not policy issues. The NHS is an issue

:48:37.:48:40.

are not sn `leasdd about? I have not for people because it affects us

:48:41.:48:43.

fop `eople becaure it affects ts all, and people are concerned about

:48:44.:48:44.

all, and people `re conberned `bout whether or not they will get into

:48:45.:48:47.

hospatals whether or not they will get into

:48:48.:48:47.

hospitals on time, whether whether or not they will get into

:48:48.:48:48.

hospitals on timd, whether there hospitals on time, whether there are

:48:49.:48:51.

enough nurses and doctors, but we have invested in the health

:48:52.:48:53.

enough nurses and doctors, but we in Wales. We need more funding

:48:54.:48:55.

enough nurses and doctors, but we invest more, and in order to do

:48:56.:48:57.

that, we need a Labour Government invest more, and in order to do

:48:58.:48:59.

next year. Thank you both for next year, Dhank you both for

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joining us. We talked about a few of tha

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joining us. We talked about a few of the items in Carwyn Jones's speech,

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joining us. We talked about a few of and cure

:49:10.:49:09.

joining us. We talked about a few of and sure there is more to come

:49:10.:49:10.

joining us. We talked about a few of later.

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Now, a man with a firm eye on the Westminster elections is the Labour

:49:18.:49:20.

Now, a man with a firm eye on the leader Ed Miliband. He addressed the

:49:21.:49:21.

Now, a man with a firm eye on the conference this morning, and listen

:49:22.:49:23.

Now, a man with a firm eye on the out for the announcement in this

:49:24.:49:25.

speech on devolution which we can out for the announcement in this

:49:26.:49:27.

discuss again later in out for the announcement in this

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It is great to be with you here It is great to bd with xou here

:49:35.:49:38.

today in It is great to bd with xou here

:49:39.:49:39.

to`aq in Llandudlo. It is great to bd with xou here

:49:40.:49:39.

today in Llandudno. It was It is great to bd with xou here

:49:40.:49:40.

to`aq in Llandudlo. It was a It is great to bd with xou here

:49:41.:49:40.

fantastic It is great to bd with xou here

:49:41.:49:45.

faltastic efeninf yesterday, and It is great to bd with xou here

:49:46.:49:46.

fantastic evening yesterday, and I have to say, amazing things happen

:49:47.:49:48.

fantastic evening yesterday, and I when you come to

:49:49.:49:51.

fantastic evening yesterday, and I year, Harriet Harman looked across

:49:52.:49:53.

fantastic evening yesterday, and I the promenade and she could have

:49:54.:49:55.

sworn she saw George the promenade and she could have

:49:56.:50:02.

turned out to be Carwyn Jones. And, last night, I met one lady, and she

:50:03.:50:06.

last night, I met one ladq, and she was having such a good

:50:07.:50:08.

last night, I met one ladq, and she was `avinf cuch ` good time

:50:09.:50:09.

last night, I met one ladq, and she was having such a good time she

:50:10.:50:09.

last night, I met one ladq, and she apparently turned to her friend

:50:10.:50:11.

after she met me and said, " doesn't apparently turned to her friend

:50:12.:50:13.

he look just like Elvis? " . She apparently turned to her friend

:50:14.:50:18.

he look jusd likd Elvis? " . She was apparently turned to her friend

:50:19.:50:19.

on her third glass of wine but I apparently turned to her friend

:50:20.:50:21.

have got to tell you, it left me apparently turned to her friend

:50:22.:50:33.

Shook up. I couldn't resist! Being at Wells conference always reminds

:50:34.:50:35.

Shook up. I couldn't resist! Being me of just how much our

:50:36.:50:38.

Shook up. I couldn't resist! Being me of just how mtc` our party

:50:39.:50:39.

me of just how much our party owes to Wales. Our first member of

:50:40.:50:41.

to Wales. Oer fipst member of Parliament, some

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to Wales. Oer fipst member of leaders, the founder of our National

:50:46.:50:45.

Healdh Sepvace, `nd leaders, the founder of our National

:50:46.:50:46.

Health Service, and today, a Welsh leaders, the founder of our National

:50:47.:50:50.

Assembly Government proving to the leaders, the founder of our National

:50:51.:50:50.

rest of the country the difference leaders, the founder of our National

:50:51.:50:52.

that Labour can make. So, let's that Labour can lace. So, let's

:50:53.:50:54.

start today by thanking the First that Labour can lace. So, let's

:50:55.:50:58.

Minister of Wales, my good friend Carwqn

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Minister of Wales, my good friend Carwyn Jones.

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APPLAUSE Friends, led's vnwed todaq to vork

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with Owen to make sure we Friends, led's vnwed todaq to vork

:51:11.:51:29.

wiph Owen to make sure ve win Friends, led's vnwed todaq to vork

:51:30.:51:32.

eight key seats in Wales as a Friends, led's vnwed todaq to vork

:51:33.:51:33.

general election, including electing Friends, led's vnwed todaq to vork

:51:34.:51:35.

the brilliant Mary Wimbury here in Friends, led's vnwed todaq to vork

:51:36.:51:46.

Aberconwy. Let us also congratulate Abarconwy, Let ur also bongratulate

:51:47.:51:49.

our brilliant European candidates, who will be fighting

:51:50.:51:50.

our brilliant European candidates, who gill `e fighting for

:51:51.:51:51.

our brilliant European candidates, who will be fighting for us in

:51:52.:51:52.

our brilliant European candidates, Particularly somebody who has done

:51:53.:51:54.

so much for the labour movement in Particularly somebody who has done

:51:55.:51:56.

Wales, who has Particularly somebody who has done

:51:57.:51:57.

Wahes, who `as dnne so Particularly somebody who has done

:51:58.:51:59.

Wales, who has done so much to fly Particularly somebody who has done

:52:00.:52:01.

the flag for Wales in the European Parlaament.

:52:02.:52:02.

the flag for Wales in the European Parliament. That is our

:52:03.:52:03.

the flag for Wales in the European member of the European Parliament,

:52:04.:52:05.

Derec member of the European Parliament,

:52:06.:52:05.

Derek Vaughan. Friends, there is not much more than

:52:06.:52:15.

now than Friends, there is not much more than

:52:16.:52:16.

now dhan ` Friends, there is not much more than

:52:17.:52:18.

now than a year until the general elacdion.

:52:19.:52:19.

now than a year until the general election. We know it will be an

:52:20.:52:21.

incredibly high-stakes election. We know it will be an

:52:22.:52:23.

Lep'c take one election. We know it will be an

:52:24.:52:23.

Let's take one issue alone that Let's takd one issue alone that

:52:24.:52:27.

shows how high the stakes are going to be. Six months ago

:52:28.:52:30.

shows how high the stakes are going to be. Six monthr ago at

:52:31.:52:30.

shows how high the stakes are going to be. Six months ago at the Labour

:52:31.:52:31.

shows how high the stakes are going Party conference, we announced our

:52:32.:52:37.

shows how high the stakes are going energy price freeze. Remember what

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shows how high the stakes are going they all saad. The energy

:52:38.:52:40.

they all said. The energy coipanies,

:52:41.:52:40.

they all said. The energy companies, they told us it

:52:41.:52:41.

they all said. The energy companies, dhey told us it would

:52:42.:52:42.

they all said. The energy stop investment. The Liberal

:52:43.:52:44.

they all said. The energy Democrats said the lights would

:52:45.:52:48.

they all said. The energy out. I hate to s`y out, I

:52:49.:52:51.

they all said. The energy out. I have to say out, I think the

:52:52.:52:52.

they all said. The energy lights went out on the Liberal

:52:53.:52:53.

Democrats are long time lights went out on the Liberal

:52:54.:52:54.

Democrats abe long time ago. lights went out on the Liberal

:52:55.:52:55.

Democrats are long time ago. The lights went out on the Liberal

:52:56.:52:55.

Tories said it was in possible, lights went out on the Liberal

:52:56.:52:59.

it was a Marxist lights went out on the Liberal

:53:00.:53:00.

it was a Mabxist plot. lights went out on the Liberal

:53:01.:53:02.

it was a Marxist plot. Isn't six lights went out on the Liberal

:53:03.:53:04.

months a long time in politics mont`s a long time in pnlatics

:53:05.:53:06.

because the mont`s a long time in pnlatics

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becaese the same mont`s a long time in pnlatics

:53:10.:53:09.

because the same energy mont`s a long time in pnlatics

:53:10.:53:10.

SSE, that said it would mont`s a long time in pnlatics

:53:11.:53:12.

SSA, that said it would deter mont`s a long time in pnlatics

:53:13.:53:15.

investment, the lights would go out, thay

:53:16.:53:15.

investment, the lights would go out, they are now saying

:53:16.:53:18.

investment, the lights would go out, Ed Balls. The Liberal Democrats,

:53:19.:53:18.

they Ed Balls. The Liberal Democrats,

:53:19.:53:19.

thay are raying Ed Balls. The Liberal Democrats,

:53:20.:53:21.

they are saying they want a freeze on all the energy companies. And

:53:22.:53:23.

they are saying they want a freeze Tories don't know what

:53:24.:53:24.

they are saying they want a freeze Topies dol'd know what to say.

:53:25.:53:24.

they are saying they want a freeze Tories don't know what to say. David

:53:25.:53:25.

they are saying they want a freeze Cameron is reduced to his classic

:53:26.:53:27.

they are saying they want a freeze role of being a PR man for the

:53:28.:53:30.

enargy role of being a PR man for the

:53:31.:53:32.

energy companies. We know what needs role of being a PR man for the

:53:33.:53:34.

to happen. We need real reform of role of being a PR man for the

:53:35.:53:36.

the energy role of being a PR man for the

:53:37.:53:36.

tha energx market. role of being a PR man for the

:53:37.:53:39.

the energy market. A real price fraere

:53:40.:53:40.

the energy market. A real price freeze for 1.4 million families, and

:53:41.:53:43.

the energy market. A real price 120,000 businesses across

:53:44.:53:44.

the energy market. A real price 120,000 btsanesses across Wales.

:53:45.:53:46.

120, 00 btsanessds across Wales. And that is what a Labour Government

:53:47.:53:48.

that is whad a L`bour Government is going to do, freezing prices until

:53:49.:54:00.

2017 if we win the general election. Friends, what does this argument

:54:01.:54:02.

2017 if we win the general election. about energy ices

:54:03.:54:03.

2017 if we win the general election. aboud energq ices teach

:54:04.:54:03.

2017 if we win the general election. about energy ices teach us? It

:54:04.:54:04.

2017 if we win the general election. teaches us this, that only Labour

:54:05.:54:08.

can cal stand u` to the powerful vdsted

:54:09.:54:11.

interests and change Britain. We intebests and ch`nge Britain. Ve

:54:12.:54:13.

have been reminded this week by what have been reminddd this week bx what

:54:14.:54:15.

has happened have been reminddd this week bx what

:54:16.:54:16.

has `appeled on energy have been reminddd this week bx what

:54:17.:54:17.

has happened on energy about the cost of living crisis. It is a

:54:18.:54:20.

has happened on energy about the crisis you hear every day do

:54:21.:54:22.

has happened on energy about the crisas you hear dvery day do gn out

:54:23.:54:22.

has happened on energy about the onto the doorstep and you knock on

:54:23.:54:24.

onto the doorstep and ynu knock on people stores. It is why

:54:25.:54:26.

onto the doorstep and ynu knock on prices are such a big issue. Wages

:54:27.:54:29.

onto the doorstep and ynu knock on are down, prices are up,

:54:30.:54:30.

onto the doorstep and ynu knock on ara down, prices are up, the

:54:31.:54:30.

onto the doorstep and ynu knock on are down, prices are up, the next

:54:31.:54:32.

generation, our young people, are facing a future

:54:33.:54:33.

generation, our young people, are facing a fudure dar harder

:54:34.:54:34.

generation, our young people, are facing a future far harder than

:54:35.:54:37.

their parents. It is reversing what I call the promise of Britain, that

:54:38.:54:39.

the next generation should do better tha next feneration should do better

:54:40.:54:45.

than the last. And we have got a Govebnment

:54:46.:54:45.

than the last. And we have got a Government that stand up only for

:54:46.:54:46.

than the last. And we have got a the privileged few. It is a

:54:47.:54:48.

Govebnment the privileged few. It is a

:54:49.:54:49.

Goternment dhat the privileged few. It is a

:54:50.:54:50.

Government that will hit the disabled, the vulnerable, those most

:54:51.:54:51.

in need, but it disabled, the vulnerable, those most

:54:52.:54:53.

in need, `ud it vill disabled, the vulnerable, those most

:54:54.:54:54.

in need, but it will never stand up disabled, the vulnerable, those most

:54:55.:54:55.

to the powerful. That is the Tories. disabled, the vulnerable, those most

:54:56.:54:57.

They may be strong when it comes to They may `e strolg when it comds to

:54:58.:55:02.

the week, but they are always weak whan

:55:03.:55:03.

the week, but they are always weak when it comes to t`e

:55:04.:55:03.

the week, but they are always weak when it comes to the strong.

:55:04.:55:04.

when it comes to t`e strong. That is the Tory Government

:55:05.:55:05.

when it comes to t`e strong. That is the Dory Gofernmdnt we

:55:06.:55:05.

when it comes to t`e strong. That is the Tory Government we have. But

:55:06.:55:09.

there is an alternative. Our the Tory Government we have. But

:55:10.:55:12.

can rebuild our economy, give our the Tory Government we have. But

:55:13.:55:14.

young people hope again, it can the Tory Government we have. But

:55:15.:55:18.

the working people of Britain first by electing a La`our

:55:19.:55:20.

the working people of Britain first by electing a Labour Government.

:55:21.:55:20.

the working people of Britain first know that by

:55:21.:55:22.

the working people of Britain first campaigning together, that is what

:55:23.:55:25.

the working people of Britain first we can do. A Labour Government in

:55:26.:55:26.

we can do, A abnur ovdrnment in Cardiff fighting for Wales, a

:55:27.:55:28.

we can do, A abnur ovdrnment in Capdaff fig`ting for Wales, a Labour

:55:29.:55:28.

Cardiff fighting for Wales, a Labour Govebnment

:55:29.:55:29.

Cardiff fighting for Wales, a Labour Government in Westminster fighting

:55:30.:55:30.

Cardiff fighting for Wales, a Labour for Britain. Shoulder

:55:31.:55:31.

Cardiff fighting for Wales, a Labour for Britahn. houlder to

:55:32.:55:32.

Cardiff fighting for Wales, a Labour together. And, don't we know how

:55:33.:55:34.

Cardiff fighting for Wales, a Labour much we need that Labour Government?

:55:35.:55:37.

Tha much we need that Labour Government?

:55:38.:55:40.

The record of David Cameron's Tory Govebnment

:55:41.:55:40.

The record of David Cameron's Tory Government tells you all you need to

:55:41.:55:42.

The record of David Cameron's Tory know. We have got the slowest

:55:43.:55:44.

The record of David Cameron's Tory recovery for 100 years. We have got

:55:45.:55:47.

The record of David Cameron's Tory working people, ?1600 a year worse

:55:48.:55:49.

The record of David Cameron's Tory off dhan

:55:50.:55:50.

The record of David Cameron's Tory off than they were at the last

:55:51.:55:51.

The record of David Cameron's Tory general election. And what did Wales

:55:52.:55:53.

The record of David Cameron's Tory get as a result of the budget?

:55:54.:55:57.

The record of David Cameron's Tory get as a pecult nf the budget? It

:55:58.:55:57.

The record of David Cameron's Tory got George Osborne coming to play

:55:58.:56:01.

The record of David Cameron's Tory bingo in Cardiff. I don't know

:56:02.:56:04.

bilgo in Babdiff, A don know whether you have heard, but the Tory

:56:05.:56:07.

Govebnment whether you have heard, but the Tory

:56:08.:56:07.

Government is changing the Ingo -- whether you have heard, but the Tory

:56:08.:56:14.

bingo. Did you see that bingo and bilgo. Did qou sde that bango `nd

:56:15.:56:17.

beer at that Grant Shapps produced? bilgo. Did qou sde that bango `nd

:56:18.:56:20.

It was a symbol of who the bilgo. Did qou sde that bango `nd

:56:21.:56:22.

are. The Tories bilgo. Did qou sde that bango `nd

:56:23.:56:24.

ara. The Tobies called the are. The Tories called the

:56:25.:56:25.

hard-working people of Britain" hapd-workhng people of Bratain"

:56:26.:56:33.

they" . Doesn't that say all about tham?

:56:34.:56:34.

they" . Doesn't that say all about them? e

:56:35.:56:36.

they" . Doesn't that say all about them? We say" us" . Labour,

:56:37.:56:37.

they" . Doesn't that say all about them? e saq" us . abour, thd

:56:38.:56:38.

they" . Doesn't that say all about party

:56:39.:56:40.

they" . Doesn't that say all about Wales and across Britain. That is

:56:41.:56:43.

they" . Doesn't that say all about the difference between us and the

:56:44.:56:44.

Tories, friends. And it is Labour the difference between us and the

:56:45.:56:53.

Topies, friends. And it is Labnur In Tories, friends. And it is Labour in

:56:54.:56:54.

Wales Tories, friends. And it is Labour in

:56:55.:56:54.

Wahec that as Tories, friends. And it is Labour in

:56:55.:56:55.

Wales that is showing the Tories, friends. And it is Labour in

:56:56.:56:57.

building prosperity and fighting building prosperitq and faghting for

:56:58.:56:58.

fairness, especially for building prosperitq and faghting for

:56:59.:57:01.

people. I am so proud that Labour in building prosperitq and faghting for

:57:02.:57:03.

Wales has building prosperitq and faghting for

:57:04.:57:05.

Walec has expanddd the FlqiNg building prosperitq and faghting for

:57:06.:57:05.

Wales has expanded the Flying Start Walec has eppanddd the Flqing Rtart

:57:06.:57:05.

Project, reaching Walec has eppanddd the Flqing Rtart

:57:06.:57:06.

Project, peaching out to Walec has eppanddd the Flqing Rtart

:57:07.:57:07.

Project, reaching out to almost Project, peachinf out to almost

:57:08.:57:07.

25,000 young children. That is the Project, peachinf out to almost

:57:08.:57:09.

difference between a Labour Project, peachinf out to almost

:57:10.:57:11.

Government and a Conservative Project, peachinf out to almost

:57:12.:57:14.

Government. And ht Project, peachinf out to almost

:57:15.:57:16.

Government. And it is Labour's leadership in Wales that means you

:57:17.:57:18.

can leadership in Wales that means you

:57:19.:57:18.

cal ctill leadership in Wales that means you

:57:19.:57:18.

can still support the leadership in Wales that means you

:57:19.:57:19.

cal ctill sepport the educational can still support the educational

:57:20.:57:20.

maindenanbe can still support the educational

:57:21.:57:22.

maintenance allowance for 30,000 young people. That is the difference

:57:23.:57:24.

maintenance allowance for 30,000 between a Labour Government and a

:57:25.:57:25.

maintenance allowance for 30,000 Conservative Government. You have

:57:26.:57:30.

kept tuition fees much lower in Conservative Government. You have

:57:31.:57:31.

Wales Conservative Government. You have

:57:32.:57:32.

Wahec thal Conservative Government. You have

:57:33.:57:32.

Wales than in England. That is the Walec thal in Enfland. That is the

:57:33.:57:36.

difference between a Walec thal in Enfland. That is the

:57:37.:57:37.

Government and a Conservative Walec thal in Enfland. That is the

:57:38.:57:39.

Government. And I am so Walec thal in Enfland. That is the

:57:40.:57:41.

Government. And H am so proud `bout Walec thal in Enfland. That is the

:57:42.:57:41.

what you have Walec thal in Enfland. That is the

:57:42.:57:42.

what you hafe dole Walec thal in Enfland. That is the

:57:43.:57:42.

what you have done with Jobs Growth Walec thal in Enfland. That is the

:57:43.:57:44.

Wales. Isn't it an absolutely Walec. Isn'd it `n absolutely

:57:45.:57:48.

fantastic programme? I met somebody yesterday, a young

:57:49.:57:50.

fantastic programme? I met somebody Richard from Llandudno. He graduated

:57:51.:57:52.

from university from univdrcity hn 2001. @is story

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tells you from univdrcity hn 2001. @is story

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tellc you all from univdrcity hn 2001. @is story

:57:58.:57:57.

tells you all you need to know about from univdrcity hn 2001. @is story

:57:58.:57:59.

what a Labour from univdrcity hn 2001. @is story

:58:00.:58:00.

what a La`oer Goternment from univdrcity hn 2001. @is story

:58:01.:58:00.

what a Labour Government can from univdrcity hn 2001. @is story

:58:01.:58:00.

achieve, what Jobs Growth Wales is from univdrcity hn 2001. @is story

:58:01.:58:02.

doing, and the difference with from univdrcity hn 2001. @is story

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the Tories are doing. He never found a job appropriate to his skills.

:58:08.:58:10.

the Tories are doing. He never found even left the country because he

:58:11.:58:12.

the Tories are doing. He never found felt there was no hope for him here.

:58:13.:58:17.

Until Jobs Growth Wales came along. Now, he works as a digital

:58:18.:58:19.

photographeb Now, he works as a digital

:58:20.:58:25.

photographer in colleges nearby. The boss of the company told me that

:58:26.:58:30.

photographer in colleges nearby. The Richard has actually transformed the

:58:31.:58:38.

business. Now, 40% of their sales are online. This tells us about the

:58:39.:58:40.

popential are online. This tells us about the

:58:41.:58:40.

potential of our young people. If are online. This tells us about the

:58:41.:58:43.

anyone still thinks that anyone still thilks that putting

:58:44.:58:46.

young anyone still thilks that putting

:58:47.:58:46.

yoqng people anyone still thilks that putting

:58:47.:58:47.

young people back to work yoqng people back to work is

:58:48.:58:49.

expensive, try the alternative. yoqng people back to work is

:58:50.:58:56.

Idleness is an expense that Richard cannot afford, that Wales cannot

:58:57.:58:59.

Idleness is an expense that Richard affobd, that ritaan

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Idleness is an expense that Richard afford, that Britain cannot

:59:01.:59:01.

Idleness is an expense that Richard We know that, and that is what Jobs

:59:02.:59:03.

We know thad, and that hs what Jobs Growth Wales is showing. As a result

:59:04.:59:10.

of Jobs Growth Wales, for the Growth Wales is showing. As a result

:59:11.:59:12.

time in living memory, the Growth Wales is showing. As a result

:59:13.:59:14.

unemployment Growth Wales is showing. As a result

:59:15.:59:14.

unem`loymend rate in Growth Wales is showing. As a result

:59:15.:59:14.

unemployment rate in Wales is now unemploymdnd rate an Wales is now

:59:15.:59:15.

lower than in any other part of the loweb thal an anx other part of the

:59:16.:59:21.

United Kingdom will stop let's pay tribete

:59:22.:59:22.

United Kingdom will stop let's pay tribute to Carwyn Jones and his

:59:23.:59:23.

Govebnment tribute to Carwyn Jones and his

:59:24.:59:23.

Government for what they have tribute to Carwyn Jones and his

:59:24.:59:30.

achieved. That is the difference to tribute to Carwyn Jones and his

:59:31.:59:32.

an area of Government and a Tory tribute to Carwyn Jones and his

:59:33.:59:33.

Government. A Labour Government in tribute to Carwyn Jones and his

:59:34.:59:37.

Wales restobing tribute to Carwyn Jones and his

:59:38.:59:37.

Wales restoring the tribute to Carwyn Jones and his

:59:38.:59:38.

Britain for the next generation. -- tribute to Carwyn Jones and his

:59:39.:59:42.

the difference between a Labour Government. That is what Labour

:59:43.:59:44.

the difference between a Labour Wales has done. Low, of

:59:45.:59:47.

the difference between a Labour Wales has done. Now, of course there

:59:48.:59:49.

the difference between a Labour are challenges includinf as

:59:50.:59:49.

the difference between a Labour are challenges including as Carwyn

:59:50.:59:50.

Jonec are challenges including as Carwyn

:59:51.:59:50.

Jolec has said, nn the NHS. are challenges including as Carwyn

:59:51.:59:52.

Jones has said, on the NHS. It Jolec has said, nn the NHS. It

:59:53.:59:53.

challenges to meet Leadbetter Jolec has said, nn the NHS. It

:59:54.:59:56.

diagnosis and support for the older Jolec has said, nn the NHS. It

:59:57.:00:01.

gelebatiol. -- bhg Jolec has said, nn the NHS. It

:00:02.:00:02.

generation. -- big challenge to meet Jolec has said, nn the NHS. It

:00:03.:00:03.

such as. Let's remember what the Jolec has said, nn the NHS. It

:00:04.:00:08.

in Wales was like the last Jolec has said, nn the NHS. It

:00:09.:00:10.

in Wales vas like the last timd thE Jolec has said, nn the NHS. It

:00:11.:00:11.

Tories were in charge. Half the A Jolec has said, nn the NHS. It

:00:12.:00:15.

consultant you have today, the colseltant qou h`ve tod`y, the

:00:16.:00:16.

number of nurses being savagely colseltant qou h`ve tod`y, the

:00:17.:00:18.

and the Tories set a target colseltant qou h`ve tod`y, the

:00:19.:00:20.

and dhe Tnraes sdt a target for colseltant qou h`ve tod`y, the

:00:21.:00:20.

people to get treatment within 18 people to get treatment wathin 18

:00:21.:00:23.

months but they could not even people to get treatment wathin 18

:00:24.:00:29.

deliver on that. That is the Tory recobd

:00:30.:00:29.

deliver on that. That is the Tory record on the NHS in

:00:30.:00:32.

recobd on t`e NHS an Wales. Whx is David Cameron so desperate to talk

:00:33.:00:35.

recobd on t`e NHS an Wales. Whx is about the NHS in

:00:36.:00:36.

recobd on t`e NHS an Wales. Whx is aboud the NHS in Wales?

:00:37.:00:38.

recobd on t`e NHS an Wales. Whx is remember the real reason. And let's

:00:39.:00:41.

recobd on t`e NHS an Wales. Whx is explain it to

:00:42.:00:41.

recobd on t`e NHS an Wales. Whx is explain it do people.

:00:42.:00:43.

explain it to people. It is because he does not want to talk about what

:00:44.:00:45.

he does nnt want to talk about what he is doing in England. Billions

:00:46.:00:50.

he does nnt want to talk about what wasted on a top-down reorganisation

:00:51.:00:51.

he does nnt want to talk about what that nobody voted for and nobody

:00:52.:00:52.

he does nnt want to talk about what wanted. A

:00:53.:00:56.

he does nnt want to talk about what walted. A top-down reorganisation

:00:57.:00:56.

wanted. A top-down reorganisation in the NHS he promised would never

:00:57.:00:59.

wanted. A top-down reorganisation in happen. Just remember his

:01:00.:01:00.

wanted. A top-down reorganisation in I quote, there will be no more

:01:01.:01:03.

wanted. A top-down reorganisation in those pointless reorganisations

:01:04.:01:07.

wanted. A top-down reorganisation in aim to change but instead bring

:01:08.:01:12.

chaos. And what have we seen? Thoucands

:01:13.:01:12.

chaos. And what have we seen? Thousands of nurses laid off,

:01:13.:01:16.

chaos. And what have we seen? thousands of managers get redundancy

:01:17.:01:17.

packages `nd thousands of managers get redundancy

:01:18.:01:17.

packages and then thousands of managers get redundancy

:01:18.:01:18.

packages `nd thel get this, get thousands of managers get redundancy

:01:19.:01:23.

rehired. These are the reasons why whatever the pressures and

:01:24.:01:25.

rehired. These are the reasons why challenges you face here, nobody in

:01:26.:01:25.

challenges qou face here, nobody in Wales is saying,

:01:26.:01:27.

challenges qou face here, nobody in Wahec is saying, please

:01:28.:01:28.

challenges qou face here, nobody in Wales is saying, please send for

:01:29.:01:29.

challenges qou face here, nobody in Cameron. The people of Wales now the

:01:30.:01:36.

challenges qou face here, nobody in oldest truth in politics. You can't

:01:37.:01:40.

trqsd oldest truth in politics. You can't

:01:41.:01:41.

trust the Tories up with the Napional

:01:42.:01:41.

trust the Tories up with the National Health Rervice and th`t

:01:42.:01:42.

trust the Tories up with the National Health Service and that is

:01:43.:01:42.

trust the Tories up with the what we ape saying.

:01:43.:01:49.

trust the Tories up with the what we are saying. -- you can't

:01:50.:01:50.

trust the Tories up with the trqsd the

:01:51.:01:51.

trust the Tories up with the trust the Tories with the National

:01:52.:01:51.

trust the Tories up with the Health Sepvice.

:01:52.:01:55.

trust the Tories up with the Health Service. Labour has always

:01:56.:01:56.

behieved Health Service. Labour has always

:01:57.:01:56.

believed in bringing power closer to Health Service. Labour has always

:01:57.:02:00.

people. Labour in the Welsh Assembly as I have shown have shown a huge

:02:01.:02:02.

difference as I have shown have shown a huge

:02:03.:02:02.

didference dhat as I have shown have shown a huge

:02:03.:02:03.

difference that it can make to people's lives. We know that

:02:04.:02:06.

people's lifes. Ve know t`at the devolution settlement can be

:02:07.:02:07.

people's lifes. Ve know t`at the improved. We already or one example

:02:08.:02:11.

whic` improved. We already or one example

:02:12.:02:11.

which shows how we need to change improved. We already or one example

:02:12.:02:13.

and modernise improved. We already or one example

:02:14.:02:13.

an` modernice the devolution and modernise the devolution

:02:14.:02:14.

septlement. and modernise the devolution

:02:15.:02:16.

settlement. Remember what happened whan

:02:17.:02:17.

settlement. Remember what happened when Wales try to keep the

:02:18.:02:20.

whan Wales dry to ceep the Agricultural Wages Board and protect

:02:21.:02:21.

Agpicultupal agds Board and protect vulnerable farm workers. You

:02:22.:02:25.

Agpicultupal agds Board and protect with the pidiculous spectacle

:02:26.:02:26.

Agpicultupal agds Board and protect with the ridiculous spectacle of a

:02:27.:02:28.

Agpicultupal agds Board and protect conservative Secretary

:02:29.:02:29.

Agpicultupal agds Board and protect scuttling to the Supreme Court to

:02:30.:02:30.

scutdling to the Supremd Court to stop the Welsh Government

:02:31.:02:33.

scutdling to the Supremd Court to stop the Velsh Government ensuring

:02:34.:02:33.

stop the Welsh Government ensuring fairness in agriculture. Friends,

:02:34.:02:36.

stop the Welsh Government ensuring under a Labour Government it will

:02:37.:02:38.

stop the Welsh Government ensuring never, ever happen again. That is

:02:39.:02:41.

why I can announce that following why I can announbe that following

:02:42.:02:44.

the Silk Commission and the why I can announbe that following

:02:45.:02:46.

tha Cilk Bommission and the advice the Silk Commission and the advice

:02:47.:02:46.

of t`e Welsh Government, the Silk Commission and the advice

:02:47.:02:49.

of the Welsh Government, the next Laboer

:02:50.:02:49.

of the Welsh Government, the next Labour Government will legislate to

:02:50.:02:50.

La`oer Gotebnment will legislate to extend further at the model of

:02:51.:02:52.

devolution extend further at the model of

:02:53.:02:52.

detolution in extend further at the model of

:02:53.:02:52.

devolution in Wales. Under a new extend further at the model of

:02:53.:02:54.

Government of Wales act. With powers Gotebnment of Wales act. With powers

:02:55.:02:57.

are assumed as devolved to Wales unless specifically reserved.

:02:58.:03:02.

Bringing Wales il line unless specifically reserved.

:03:03.:03:03.

Bringing Wales in line with Scotland. Modernising and advancing

:03:04.:03:07.

Bringing Wales in line with the devolution settlement for

:03:08.:03:11.

genebatiols the devolution settlement for

:03:12.:03:11.

gelebatiols to the devolution settlement for

:03:12.:03:13.

generations to come. That is what we mean by bringing power closer to

:03:14.:03:15.

people. And let le set mean by bringing power closer to

:03:16.:03:24.

people. And let me set out what mean by bringing power closer to

:03:25.:03:24.

people. And let le set out what the mean by bringing power closer to

:03:25.:03:25.

mission of a UK mean by bringing power closer to

:03:26.:03:27.

would be, working with Carwyn Jones woqld be, workinf with Barwyn Jones

:03:28.:03:28.

in Wales. A Labour Government with woqld be, workinf with Barwyn Jones

:03:29.:03:31.

one focus and one focus only, to woqld be, workinf with Barwyn Jones

:03:32.:03:32.

tackle the cost of woqld be, workinf with Barwyn Jones

:03:33.:03:35.

that blights millions of families. woqld be, workinf with Barwyn Jones

:03:36.:03:36.

And to build woqld be, workinf with Barwyn Jones

:03:37.:03:36.

An` do buhld a woqld be, workinf with Barwyn Jones

:03:37.:03:37.

And to build a new economy that And to buhld a ndw econnmq that

:03:38.:03:38.

creates prosperity based on creades ppocperity based on thd

:03:39.:03:41.

values of the Labour Party in Wales. creades ppocperity based on thd

:03:42.:03:44.

Fairness, justice and equality. creades ppocperity based on thd

:03:45.:03:46.

Fairness, jestice and equality. How Fairness, justice and equality. How

:03:47.:03:46.

di` Fairness, justice and equality. How

:03:47.:03:46.

did we do it? We do it by running di` ge do id? We do it by runnhng

:03:47.:03:54.

what I call a race to the top. For high schools and high wages, not a

:03:55.:03:55.

high schoolc and hagh wages, nnt a race to the bottom. -- high

:03:56.:04:04.

schools. Not the Tory race to the boptom

:04:05.:04:05.

schools. Not the Tory race to the bottom of low wages and low skills.

:04:06.:04:06.

schools. Not the Tory race to the How did he do it? We first of all

:04:07.:04:10.

schools. Not the Tory race to the need successful businesses, they are

:04:11.:04:13.

schools. Not the Tory race to the the lifeblood of the economy in

:04:14.:04:15.

the lifeblood of t`e economy in Wales and Britain. That means tough

:04:16.:04:17.

the lifeblood of t`e economy in choices ald

:04:18.:04:17.

the lifeblood of t`e economy in choices and doing tough things. Like

:04:18.:04:19.

the lifeblood of t`e economy in taking on the power of interest. It

:04:20.:04:23.

the lifeblood of t`e economy in requires the big banks to change,

:04:24.:04:26.

the lifeblood of t`e economy in big reform of the banking system. We

:04:27.:04:29.

the lifeblood of t`e economy in know what we need to do. We have gOt

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the lifeblood of t`e economy in to end the situation where

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the lifeblood of t`e economy in businesses are serving our banks and

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the lifeblood of t`e economy in instead do what they are supposed to

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do and have the banks serving our businesses once `gain,

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do and have the banks serving our businesses once again, and that

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do and have the banks serving our businesses once `gain, and that is

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businesses once again, and that is what we will do. So we will have a

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Britash what we will do. So we will have a

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British investment bank supported by what we will do. So we will have a

:04:52.:04:52.

banks in every nation what we will do. So we will have a

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balkc in dvery n`taon and what we will do. So we will have a

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banks in every nation and region of writden

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banks in every nation and region of written wit` a mandate to

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banks in every nation and region of written with a mandate to lend to

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banks in every nation and region of that part of the country and

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banks in every nation and region of part

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banks in every nation and region of papt of the

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banks in every nation and region of part of the country alone. So that

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banks in every nation and region of no small business is ever

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banks in every nation and region of behind. Friends, we also know

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behind. Fpiends, we alsn cnow this. This is something the

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behind. Fpiends, we alsn cnow this. This is snmethinf the Tories

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This is somethinf the Tnraes increasingly just don't seem to

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increasinfly just don't seem to understand. That we can only

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increasinfly just don't seem to encourage business success and win

:05:12.:05:13.

tha race to the top encourage business success and win

:05:14.:05:15.

the race to the top if we are inside encourage business success and win

:05:16.:05:16.

and not outside the European Union. Of course, Europe needs to work

:05:17.:05:27.

better. But let's stay a Of course, Europe needs to work

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truth. -- let's state Of course, Europe needs to work

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trut`. -- let's state a Of course, Europe needs to work

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truth. -- let's state a very Of course, Europe needs to work

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truth. Exit would be a disaster for Of course, Europe needs to work

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Wales and a disaster for Britain. Ask any mum but -- ask any major

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business if they can't possibly Ask any mum but -- ask any major

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understand why Britain would be undebstand ghy Bpitain vould bd

:05:48.:05:48.

better outside of the undebstand ghy Bpitain vould bd

:05:49.:05:51.

Union. Voices in the Conservative Party

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Union. Voices in the Conservative Papty are

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Union. Voices in the Conservative Party are saying that.

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Union. Voices in the Conservative Papty are saying that. They

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Union. Voices in the Conservative understand it. It would

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Union. Voices in the Conservative un`erstand at. It would undermhne

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understand it. It would undermine invectment,

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understand it. It would undermine intestment, harm our

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understand it. It would undermine investment, harm our prosperity and

:05:58.:05:57.

invectment, harm our prosperity and cost millions of jobs. That is why

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invectment, harm our prosperity and we will be making the case in

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invectment, harm our prosperity and we wall be makinf the case in Lay's

:06:04.:06:03.

invectment, harm our prosperity and European elections for Britain

:06:04.:06:04.

invectment, harm our prosperity and Eupo`ean elections for Bratain being

:06:05.:06:05.

invectment, harm our prosperity and engaged and a

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invectment, harm our prosperity and engaged ald a commatted member

:06:07.:06:06.

invectment, harm our prosperity and engaged and a committed member of

:06:07.:06:06.

invectment, harm our prosperity and the Europdan nion and

:06:07.:06:07.

invectment, harm our prosperity and the European Union and reforming it

:06:08.:06:10.

too makes -- to make it too makes -- to lace it work for

:06:11.:06:12.

Wales and Britain. too makes -- to lace it work for

:06:13.:06:15.

Walec and Bbitail. That too makes -- to lace it work for

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Wales and Britain. That is Labour's Wahec and Bbitail. That is Labnur's

:06:17.:06:16.

approach. But we have got to go for Wahec and Bbitail. That is Labnur's

:06:17.:06:23.

the top and build Wahec and Bbitail. That is Labnur's

:06:24.:06:25.

tha dop ald build the hig`er Wahec and Bbitail. That is Labnur's

:06:26.:06:25.

the top and build the higher wage Wahec and Bbitail. That is Labnur's

:06:26.:06:28.

economy we need. We know we have to encourage the companies that want

:06:29.:06:29.

encoerage t`e companies t`at want the highest standards in our

:06:30.:06:31.

economy, nod the highest standards in our

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economy, not the lowest standards. We all know that no one who

:06:33.:06:36.

economy, not the lowest standards. all the hours that God sends should

:06:37.:06:39.

economy, not the lowest standards. come home to their family and find

:06:40.:06:43.

economy, not the lowest standards. they can't make ends meet and they

:06:44.:06:45.

are still in poverty. But we ara ctill in povdrty. But we nnw

:06:46.:06:51.

also that happened right across our coqndry. Ve

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also that happened right across our country. We are also learning this.

:06:52.:06:54.

Povebty country. We are also learning this.

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Poterty pay country. We are also learning this.

:06:55.:06:55.

Poverty pay is not good for country. We are also learning this.

:06:56.:06:55.

Poterty pay is not good for buriness country. We are also learning this.

:06:56.:06:57.

either. Because it means more eipher. Because ht meanr more

:06:58.:07:00.

turnover of staff, lower prodectivhtq

:07:01.:07:01.

turnover of staff, lower prodectivitq and

:07:02.:07:01.

turnover of staff, lower productivity and we know something

:07:02.:07:02.

turnover of staff, lower else as well. Poverty met pay means

:07:03.:07:05.

expra costs else as well. Poverty met pay means

:07:06.:07:06.

extra costs for else as well. Poverty met pay means

:07:07.:07:06.

expra costs for nur country as we extra costs for our country as we

:07:07.:07:07.

subsadise extra costs for our country as we

:07:08.:07:07.

subsidise low pay. subsidise low pay. The national

:07:08.:07:09.

su`sadise low pay. The subsidise low pay. The national

:07:10.:07:12.

minimum wage is one of the proudest subsidise low pay. The national

:07:13.:07:14.

achievements of the last subsidise low pay. The national

:07:15.:07:15.

Gotebnment. But subsidise low pay. The national

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Government. But I want us to write subsidise low pay. The national

:07:16.:07:18.

the next chapter in the battle subsidise low pay. The national

:07:19.:07:23.

against low wages. That is why as soon as we get into power, we vill

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soon as we get into power, we will say to every employer, for the first

:07:25.:07:27.

soon as we get into power, we will time in the history of our country,

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soon as we get into power, we will we will provide tax breaks when you

:07:30.:07:34.

soon as we get into power, we will move to become a

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soon as we get into power, we will mote to bdcome a living

:07:36.:07:35.

soon as we get into power, we will move to become a living wage

:07:36.:07:36.

soon as we get into power, we will employer because we all know...

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employer `ecause we all know... APPLAUSE

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employer `ecause we all know... Because we all know the living wage

:07:44.:07:48.

employer `ecause we all know... is an idea whose time has come.

:07:49.:07:51.

employer `ecause we all know... Running a

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employer `ecause we all know... Rulning a race to

:07:52.:07:52.

employer `ecause we all know... Running a race to the top means so

:07:53.:07:53.

employer `ecause we all know... we take on the unscrupulous

:07:54.:07:55.

employers in the Tory race to the we take on the unscrupulous

:07:56.:07:58.

bottom. We see it, don't we? Our boptom. Wd cee it, don't we? Otr

:07:59.:08:02.

friends il the boptom. Wd cee it, don't we? Otr

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friends in the workplace, friends il dhe worcplace, people we

:08:03.:08:03.

talk to, those tahk to, those employers who exploit

:08:04.:08:07.

zero hours contracts so people can find themselves working regular

:08:08.:08:08.

fild themrelves vorking regular hours, month after month, and never

:08:09.:08:12.

fild themrelves vorking regular having a

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fild themrelves vorking regular it is

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fild themrelves vorking regular it ic wrong and

:08:17.:08:17.

fild themrelves vorking regular it is wrong and under a Labour

:08:18.:08:17.

Govebnment, it is wrong and under a Labour

:08:18.:08:18.

Government, it will never happen again. Shady gangmasters abusing

:08:19.:08:28.

again. Sh`dq ganfmasters abusing people's rights, it is wrong and it

:08:29.:08:30.

won'd people's rights, it is wrong and it

:08:31.:08:31.

won't happen people's rights, it is wrong and it

:08:32.:08:32.

won'd happen unddr a Labour won't happen under a Labour

:08:33.:08:32.

Govebnment. won't happen under a Labour

:08:33.:08:33.

Government. Dodgy firms not paying tha

:08:34.:08:34.

Government. Dodgy firms not paying the minimtm

:08:35.:08:35.

Government. Dodgy firms not paying the minimum wage, it is wrong and it

:08:36.:08:36.

Government. Dodgy firms not paying will not ha`pen tnder

:08:37.:08:38.

will not happen under a Labour Govebnment.

:08:39.:08:43.

Underpinning that race to fairness and justice in everything

:08:44.:08:51.

Underpinning that race to we do. That has always been the

:08:52.:08:53.

we do. Th`t has `lways been thd Labour Party way. And it has

:08:54.:08:57.

we do. Th`t has `lways been thd been the Labour Party way in Wales.

:08:58.:08:57.

we do. Th`t has `lways been thd We know what we call it. Social

:08:58.:08:59.

justace. We know what we call it. Social

:09:00.:09:01.

justice. Some people will tell you We know what we call it. Social

:09:02.:09:04.

it is a Tory We know what we call it. Social

:09:05.:09:04.

it ic a Tory vision. We know what we call it. Social

:09:05.:09:08.

societies are more successful We know what we call it. Social

:09:09.:09:10.

societies, They `re societies, Dhey `re wrong. We

:09:11.:09:16.

succeed when we use the talents of all, with a spirit of solidarity and

:09:17.:09:18.

succeed when we use the talents of justice. Values the people of Wales

:09:19.:09:21.

justice. Talues the people of Vales have alwaxs

:09:22.:09:22.

justice. Talues the people of Vales have always had right at

:09:23.:09:24.

justice. Talues the people of Vales heart. And values that will be at

:09:25.:09:26.

tha centre of heart. And values that will be at

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the centre of the Labour Government heart. And values that will be at

:09:28.:09:30.

I lead. We know what that means. Fair taxes were those with the

:09:31.:09:36.

broader shoulders carry the greatest burden. Friends, that is why

:09:37.:09:41.

broader shoulders carry the greatest Government will repeal the

:09:42.:09:42.

broader shoulders carry the greatest millionaires tax cut

:09:43.:09:44.

broader shoulders carry the greatest millaonaipes tax cut and restored

:09:45.:09:44.

broader shoulders carry the greatest the 50p tax rate in every

:09:45.:09:47.

broader shoulders carry the greatest the day and knighted kingdom. That

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broader shoulders carry the greatest is what I mean

:09:50.:09:50.

broader shoulders carry the greatest is w`at I mean bx

:09:51.:09:50.

broader shoulders carry the greatest is what I mean by fair taxes. ,- in

:09:51.:09:55.

broader shoulders carry the greatest every part of the United Kingdom. It

:09:56.:09:57.

evarq part of thd United Cingdnm. It is why we will do something else as

:09:58.:09:58.

is why we wall dn something else as well. Labour will never accept a

:09:59.:10:01.

well. Labnub will never accept a situation where some of the most

:10:02.:10:03.

vuhnerable situation where some of the most

:10:04.:10:03.

vulnerable people in our society are situation where some of the most

:10:04.:10:05.

told they have to pay mnre situation where some of the most

:10:06.:10:08.

told they have to pay more or lose thaib

:10:09.:10:08.

told they have to pay more or lose theib homds.

:10:09.:10:12.

told they have to pay more or lose their homes. 25,000 disabled people

:10:13.:10:14.

told they have to pay more or lose across Wales, I say not

:10:15.:10:19.

told they have to pay more or lose And that is why, if we win the

:10:20.:10:21.

genebal And that is why, if we win the

:10:22.:10:21.

geleral election, we will And that is why, if we win the

:10:22.:10:23.

the damagd And that is why, if we win the

:10:24.:10:24.

the damage done by David Cameron and And that is why, if we win the

:10:25.:10:25.

Nick Clegg and abolish Nick Clegf and a`olish the bedroom

:10:26.:10:27.

tax. That is the Nick Clegf and a`olish the bedroom

:10:28.:10:30.

tax. That ic the difference betweeN tax. That is the difference between

:10:31.:10:30.

a Habour tax. That is the difference between

:10:31.:10:31.

a Labour Government and Tory We are about to face the fight of

:10:32.:10:36.

oup We are about to face the fight of

:10:37.:10:47.

our lives. A fight to build an economy thad

:10:48.:10:47.

our lives. A fight to build an economy that truly works for all

:10:48.:10:49.

economy thad truly workr for all working people, a fight for social

:10:50.:10:53.

economy thad truly workr for all napion behind,

:10:54.:10:55.

economy thad truly workr for all future of our country that is not

:10:56.:10:56.

going to BET. Because we know, going to @ED. Because we cnow, don't

:10:57.:10:58.

we? -- th`t is not going to @ED. Because we cnow, don't

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we? -- that is not going to be easy. We know who are

:11:04.:11:07.

we? -- that is not going to be easy. supporters of the Tory party and

:11:08.:11:10.

what tactics they will deploy. Not coipassiolade

:11:11.:11:10.

what tactics they will deploy. Not coipassiolate colservatism

:11:11.:11:11.

what tactics they will deploy. Not compassionate conservatism but

:11:12.:11:11.

what tactics they will deploy. Not Crosby conservatism. Not we are in

:11:12.:11:18.

this together, but set one part of Britain against each other. Not one

:11:19.:11:21.

this together, but set one part of nation, but divide and rule. Friends

:11:22.:11:25.

I also know this. It is not who we are. It is

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I also know this. It is not who we ara. It is not to

:11:28.:11:27.

I also know this. It is not who we are. It is not to the

:11:28.:11:27.

I also know this. It is not who we ara. It is not to the Wdlsh

:11:28.:11:27.

I also know this. It is not who we are. It is not to the Welsh people

:11:28.:11:29.

I also know this. It is not who we are. It is not to the British people

:11:30.:11:31.

ara and are. It is not to the British people

:11:32.:11:31.

are and we the Labour Party are. It is not to the British people

:11:32.:11:35.

never allow this kind of politics to prevail in our

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If efer ynu want inspirataon this fight, think of this. Today it

:11:47.:11:54.

If efer ynu want inspirataon was said we have neither Thomas. She

:11:55.:11:55.

was born at one minute past was said we have neither Thomas. She

:11:56.:11:57.

was born at one linute past midnight was born at one minute past midnight

:11:58.:11:57.

on Jely was born at one minute past midnight

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on July five, was born at one minute past midnight

:11:59.:12:01.

of the first hour of the first day was born at one minute past midnight

:12:02.:12:03.

of the NHS. The first baby born in was born at one minute past midnight

:12:04.:12:08.

the NHS. -- was born at one minute past midnight

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the NHS. ,- Enira Thomas. That is tha NH . ,- Enira Thomar. That is

:12:14.:12:16.

what Labour in Wales has been able to achieve. Here is what we know.

:12:17.:12:18.

Tha battle for to achieve. Here is what we know.

:12:19.:12:18.

The battle for equality always goes to achieve. Here is what we know.

:12:19.:12:19.

on. Today is another historic day. to achieve. Here is what we know.

:12:20.:12:27.

Across Wales, men to achieve. Here is what we know.

:12:28.:12:28.

Across Wales, mel and to achieve. Here is what we know.

:12:29.:12:29.

Across Wales, men and women are geptang

:12:30.:12:32.

Across Wales, men and women are getting married today who could not

:12:33.:12:34.

Across Wales, men and women are get married before. Equal

:12:35.:12:35.

gep married befope. qu`l marriage for gay and lesbian couples. Because

:12:36.:12:37.

gep married befope. qu`l marriage you should be able to marry the

:12:38.:12:40.

gep married befope. qu`l marriage person you love.

:12:41.:12:49.

And think of all the other we have fought and won. Workers

:12:50.:12:58.

And think of all the other rights at the start of the 20th

:12:59.:12:58.

And think of all the other century. The principle of

:12:59.:13:00.

And think of all the other century. The prilcaple nf equal

:13:01.:13:01.

And think of all the other century. The principle of equal pay

:13:02.:13:01.

in t`e century. The principle of equal pay

:13:02.:13:03.

in the 1970s. For women. The craadion

:13:04.:13:03.

in the 1970s. For women. The creation of the Welsh Assembly.

:13:04.:13:06.

in the 1970s. For women. The national minimum wage. There is a

:13:07.:13:09.

in the 1970s. For women. The saying. The Ark of the

:13:10.:13:10.

in the 1970s. For women. The universe is long but it bends

:13:11.:13:11.

towabds universe is long but it bends

:13:12.:13:13.

towards justice. It now falls to universe is long but it bends

:13:14.:13:13.

towabds jusdice. It now falls to us. towards justice. It now falls to us.

:13:14.:13:15.

It falls to our generation to be It falls to our feneration to be

:13:16.:13:18.

inspired by our pioneers, not inspared `y our pioneers, not to

:13:19.:13:19.

flinch from the fight. I know that flinch from the dight. H cnow that

:13:20.:13:24.

we can win this fight. I know that we can win again for Labour, for

:13:25.:13:33.

Wahec we can win again for Labour, for

:13:34.:13:33.

Wales and Britain. Friends, that we can win again for Labour, for

:13:34.:13:34.

what we are going to do. Let's do it what we are goinf to do. Let's do it

:13:35.:13:36.

together. Thank you very A standing ovation and applause for

:13:37.:13:43.

togedher. T`ank xou very much. A standing ovation and applause for

:13:44.:13:48.

Ed Miliband, who addressed A standing ovation and applause for

:13:49.:13:50.

Ed Maliband, who addressed the Ed Malibald, who addresred the

:13:51.:13:50.

conference Ed Malibald, who addresred the

:13:51.:13:51.

colference earlier this morninf. conference earlier this morning. We

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heard from Carwyn Jones conference earlier this morning. We

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afternoon. We conference earlier this morning. We

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afpebnoon, Ge are conference earlier this morning. We

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afternoon. We are now joined live by conference earlier this morning. We

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him from Llandudlo. conference earlier this morning. We

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him from Llandudno. Thank you for joinang

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him from Llandudno. Thank you for joining us. Clearly, your theme for

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him from Llandudno. Thank you for this conference is a counterattack

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on what you are calling the war on Wahec

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on what you are calling the war on Wales by the Conservatives. They

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have hit a nerve, haven't Wales by the Conservatives. They

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hate hit ` nerve, `aven they? I have hit a nerve, haven't they? I

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think it is very valid because we have hit a nerve, haven't they? I

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are seeing, not an attack on are ceeinf, not `n attabk on what

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the Government in Wales is doing, or are ceeinf, not `n attabk on what

:14:19.:14:20.

on Welsh Labour, but on the whole of on Welsh Labour, but on t`e whnle of

:14:21.:14:22.

Wales. on Welsh Labour, but on t`e whnle of

:14:23.:14:23.

Wahec. Th`t on Welsh Labour, but on t`e whnle of

:14:24.:14:23.

Wales. That is on Welsh Labour, but on t`e whnle of

:14:24.:14:23.

Wahec. Th`t is what on Welsh Labour, but on t`e whnle of

:14:24.:14:24.

Wales. That is what one Schatz, the on Welsh Labour, but on t`e whnle of

:14:25.:14:27.

Tory party chairman said they were going to do. And we saw attacks

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Tory party chairman said they were the Welsh language. We

:14:30.:14:30.

Tory party chairman said they were tha Gelsh languafe. We `re looking

:14:31.:14:30.

the Welsh language. We are looking at a way for a party

:14:31.:14:32.

the Welsh language. We are looking at a way dob a party who wants

:14:33.:14:32.

the Welsh language. We are looking at a way for a party who wants to

:14:33.:14:35.

the Welsh language. We are looking elected as a party for the UK who

:14:36.:14:37.

are looking to do that by elected as a party for the UK who

:14:38.:14:39.

are looking to dn that by iGnoring are looking to do that by ignoring

:14:40.:14:39.

Scotland and hammering Wales. But are looking to do that by ignoring

:14:40.:14:41.

they have been doing this for years are looking to do that by ignoring

:14:42.:14:43.

in power ministers questions will stop where have you been? You have

:14:44.:14:50.

lodged this counterattabk, stop where have you been? You have

:14:51.:14:50.

lodged this counterattack, but stop where have you been? You have

:14:51.:14:52.

have you been? We stop where have you been? You have

:14:53.:14:53.

hate you `een? Wd `ave stop where have you been? You have

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have you been? We have been hate you `een? Wd `ave been doing

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this for weeks, but they have got a larger megaphone than we do. They

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have got the megaphone of some of larger megaphone than we do. They

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the larger newspapers. We have been putting the case for Wales, but

:15:05.:15:08.

the larger newspapers. We have been can be difficult, given the way the

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me`ia can be difficult, given the way the

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media is, particular in London. But can be difficult, given the way the

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I am not going can be difficult, given the way the

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I am not foang to stop I am not going to stop defending the

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people of Wales, whether I am not going to stop defending the

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support my party or not, I am not going to stop defending the

:15:17.:15:18.

this is something that I am not going to stop defending the

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this is somethinf that has the I am not going to stop defending the

:15:20.:15:19.

effect of depressing morale in the efdect of depresring morale in the

:15:20.:15:20.

health service. And what for? All efdect of depresring morale in the

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because of the general election next year. Wales is just a lateral damage

:15:27.:15:28.

because of the general election next to them. But this is just the

:15:29.:15:33.

because of the general election next rough-and-tumble of

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because of the general election next rough-and,tumble of grown-up

:15:34.:15:34.

because of the general election next politics, isn't it? For Ed Miliband

:15:35.:15:37.

because of the general election next in some of the right-wing press, it

:15:38.:15:39.

because of the general election next makes horrible reading. This is

:15:40.:15:41.

because of the general election next grown-up politics. Is it grown,up

:15:42.:15:45.

politics? Grown-up politics is the grown-up politics. Is it grown,up

:15:46.:15:49.

Welsh Conservatives and other parties criticising the Welsh

:15:50.:15:50.

Govebnment. parties criticising the Welsh

:15:51.:15:51.

Government. That is democracy, and Goternment. That is demncracy, and

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something we all welcome. But these Goternment. That is demncracy, and

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attacks are coming from outside. It is the equivalent of

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attacks are coming from outside. It is t`e equifalent of politicians and

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is the equivalent of politicians and news`apers

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is the equivalent of politicians and newspapers in Brussels

:16:00.:16:00.

is the equivalent of politicians and attacking the UK Government

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attacking t`e UK Governlent in London. That would inevitably cause

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attacking t`e UK Governlent in a poor reaction, I suspect. It does

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not get away a poor reaction, I suspect. It does

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nop get awaq from a poor reaction, I suspect. It does

:16:10.:16:09.

not get away from the fact that thare

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not get away from the fact that there are issues that need to

:16:11.:16:13.

not get away from the fact that deald with. The LHS, for

:16:14.:16:14.

not get away from the fact that dealt with. The NHS, for example.

:16:15.:16:15.

not get away from the fact that Where there are problems, we

:16:16.:16:18.

not get away from the fact that recognise them and

:16:19.:16:19.

not get away from the fact that recognise t`em ald they

:16:20.:16:19.

not get away from the fact that recognise them and they will

:16:20.:16:19.

not get away from the fact that recognise t`em ald they wall bd

:16:20.:16:20.

not get away from the fact that dealt with. I

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not get away from the fact that deald with. I did not

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not get away from the fact that dealt with. I did not want to get

:16:22.:16:22.

not get away from the fact that into a war

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not get away from the fact that inpo a wap of

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not get away from the fact that into a war of words with the UK

:16:25.:16:24.

into a wap of wopds with the UK Government. They started on Wales

:16:25.:16:26.

first, and A Government. They started on Wales

:16:27.:16:27.

first, and I don't want to be in a Government. They started on Wales

:16:28.:16:29.

position where we Government. They started on Wales

:16:30.:16:36.

response. You have hit back, talking aboud

:16:37.:16:37.

response. You have hit back, talking about cancer rates and so forth. But

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response. You have hit back, talking one of your greatest critics is

:16:40.:16:40.

one of your greatest critacs is within your own party. We are

:16:41.:16:42.

within your own party. Ve are talking about the Labour MP Ann

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talkang a`oet thd Labour MP Ann Clwyd. She has her own particular

:16:51.:16:54.

issue that che wants Clwyd. She has her own particular

:16:55.:16:56.

issue that she wants to deal with. Bup

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issue that she wants to deal with. But you will find

:16:57.:16:58.

issue that she wants to deal with. a very united party. Everybody

:16:59.:17:02.

issue that she wants to deal with. a tery united papty. Everqbody knows

:17:03.:17:03.

issue that she wants to deal with. that the direction of

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issue that she wants to deal with. that the dibection of the

:17:05.:17:04.

issue that she wants to deal with. Government is the wrong

:17:05.:17:08.

issue that she wants to deal with. We have a party that wants to be

:17:09.:17:10.

elacded We have a party that wants to be

:17:11.:17:11.

elected for the whole of the UK. elacded for the vhole of the UK. In

:17:12.:17:13.

doing so, it wants to hammer elacded for the vhole of the UK. In

:17:14.:17:17.

different parts of the UK. That is tha

:17:18.:17:18.

different parts of the UK. That is the sign of a party

:17:19.:17:19.

different parts of the UK. That is completely lost `ny

:17:20.:17:20.

different parts of the UK. That is completely lost any sense

:17:21.:17:20.

different parts of the UK. That is completely lost `ny senre of

:17:21.:17:21.

different parts of the UK. That is Britishness. But in your response in

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Britashness. ut in your response in first ministers questions, you did

:17:24.:17:27.

seam first ministers questions, you did

:17:28.:17:27.

seem to suggest and make a personal first ministers questions, you did

:17:28.:17:30.

attack on Ann Clwyd, who `as clearly attack on Ann Clwyd, whn `as clearly

:17:31.:17:32.

suffered with attack on Ann Clwyd, whn `as clearly

:17:33.:17:33.

sudfered vidh the attack on Ann Clwyd, whn `as clearly

:17:34.:17:33.

suffered with the loss of her attack on Ann Clwyd, whn `as clearly

:17:34.:17:34.

husband. Do you regret that? attack on Ann Clwyd, whn `as clearly

:17:35.:17:39.

was the nature of the attack on Ann Clwyd, whn `as clearly

:17:40.:17:40.

was dhe n`tere of the pdrsonal was the nature of the personal

:17:41.:17:40.

atpack was the nature of the personal

:17:41.:17:40.

attack on her? You wanted more was the nature of the personal

:17:41.:17:44.

detail about the death of her was the nature of the personal

:17:45.:17:45.

husband. Was that the right tone to was the nature of the personal

:17:46.:17:51.

adopt, do you think? She has every right to raise the

:17:52.:17:55.

adopt, do you think? She has every right to paise the issue

:17:56.:17:55.

adopt, do you think? She has every right to raise the issue of her

:17:56.:17:56.

adopt, do you think? She has every husband's care in the public

:17:57.:17:58.

adopt, do you think? She has every but there are staff

:17:59.:18:01.

adopt, do you think? She has every bup dhere abe staff in the

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but there are staff in the University Hospital Wales who have

:18:02.:18:03.

but there are staff in the been affected by it. They feel they

:18:04.:18:07.

are not able to put forward their poind

:18:08.:18:07.

are not able to put forward their point of view. The only way that can

:18:08.:18:10.

are not able to put forward their be resolved

:18:11.:18:10.

are not able to put forward their be resolvdd is for the

:18:11.:18:11.

are not able to put forward their be resolved is for the full

:18:12.:18:12.

are not able to put forward their to be made public. Then the staff

:18:13.:18:14.

are not able to put forward their who are perfect it will feel they

:18:15.:18:15.

are not able to put forward their have been able to put forward their

:18:16.:18:18.

are not able to put forward their case as well. It is not as if there

:18:19.:18:21.

is nobody else affected by this. case as well. It is not as if there

:18:22.:18:23.

is important for the benefit of all is importand for t`e benefit of all

:18:24.:18:26.

that the full circumstances are thare

:18:27.:18:27.

that the full circumstances are there for all to see. You talkdd

:18:28.:18:28.

about education in your speech. In there for all to see. You talkdd

:18:29.:18:32.

the past, you said that there for all to see. You talkdd

:18:33.:18:34.

Government you there for all to see. You talkdd

:18:35.:18:34.

Goternment you tooc your there for all to see. You talkdd

:18:35.:18:35.

Government you took your eye off Gotebnment qou tooc your eye off the

:18:36.:18:35.

ball. Today you talked about posting Gotebnment qou tooc your eye off the

:18:36.:18:37.

for too long. Do you get a bit fed Gotebnment qou tooc your eye off the

:18:38.:18:43.

up of trying to defend the record of yoqr

:18:44.:18:43.

up of trying to defend the record of your predecessors within your own

:18:44.:18:44.

partq your predecessors within your own

:18:45.:18:44.

paptq on your predecessors within your own

:18:45.:18:45.

party on education? When you your predecessors within your own

:18:46.:18:48.

paptq on edecation? When you have your predecessors within your own

:18:49.:18:51.

been in Government for 15 years, it is inevitable that some things won't

:18:52.:18:55.

work as well as others. I will not pretend that everything

:18:56.:18:56.

work as well as others. I will not pratend thad everything has been

:18:57.:18:57.

work as well as others. I will not perfect over the 15 years, that

:18:58.:18:58.

woqld perfect over the 15 years, that

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would be unrealistic. But what's perfect over the 15 years, that

:18:59.:19:00.

important is that you recognise when perfect over the 15 years, that

:19:01.:19:02.

things are not working as you perfect over the 15 years, that

:19:03.:19:06.

them to, and then you change direction and improve things. That

:19:07.:19:08.

them to, and then you change is what people expect an honest

:19:09.:19:09.

is w`at pdo`le expect an `onest Government to do, rather than

:19:10.:19:11.

Gotebnment do do, rather than bover things up through spin or attack

:19:12.:19:13.

Gotebnment do do, rather than bover another Dutchman to

:19:14.:19:13.

Gotebnment do do, rather than bover anot`er Dutchman to make

:19:14.:19:14.

Gotebnment do do, rather than bover another Dutchman to make up for your

:19:15.:19:15.

Gotebnment do do, rather than bover own deficiencies. -- another

:19:16.:19:17.

own deficiencies, -- annt`er Government. You are always quick

:19:18.:19:24.

own deficiencies, -- annt`er save the Government is not safe

:19:25.:19:26.

own deficiencies, -- annt`er Tory hands. Some people might say

:19:27.:19:28.

own deficiencies, -- annt`er the education system is not safe in

:19:29.:19:30.

tha education syrtem is not safe in Labour hands. Cancer waiting times

:19:31.:19:34.

are shorter in Wales. Cancer Labour hands. Cancer waiting times

:19:35.:19:37.

survival rates have improved Labour hands. Cancer waiting times

:19:38.:19:38.

dramatically in Wales. But on dramatically in Vales. But on

:19:39.:19:41.

education? Yes, there are some edqcation> Qes, there are some

:19:42.:19:46.

aspects that need to improve. But edqcation> Qes, there are some

:19:47.:19:53.

what you see in England is that thare

:19:54.:19:53.

what you see in England is that there is no admission that there is

:19:54.:19:55.

anyt`ing there is no admission that there is

:19:56.:19:56.

anything wrong with the there is no admission that there is

:19:57.:19:57.

England, despite there is no admission that there is

:19:58.:19:58.

England, decpite the there is no admission that there is

:19:59.:19:58.

England, despite the fact that 4500 there is no admission that there is

:19:59.:19:59.

nurses have been sacked. there is no admission that there is

:20:00.:20:01.

nurses hate been sacked. Where there is no admission that there is

:20:02.:20:02.

nurses have been sacked. Where we there is no admission that there is

:20:03.:20:02.

see a problem there is no admission that there is

:20:03.:20:03.

sea a problem we say there is no admission that there is

:20:04.:20:04.

see a problem we say we recognise it there is no admission that there is

:20:05.:20:04.

and we there is no admission that there is

:20:05.:20:05.

and ge will there is no admission that there is

:20:06.:20:05.

and we will deal with it. Maybe you there is no admission that there is

:20:06.:20:09.

did not hear the there is no admission that there is

:20:10.:20:10.

did not hdab the question, there is no admission that there is

:20:11.:20:10.

did not hear the question, but I there is no admission that there is

:20:11.:20:11.

just asking, is the education there is no admission that there is

:20:12.:20:19.

safe in Labour's hand in Wales? Absolutely. If you look at what is

:20:20.:20:22.

safe in Labour's hand in Wales? happening in England, millions

:20:23.:20:24.

safe in Labour's hand in Wales? millions of pounds were devoted from

:20:25.:20:27.

millions nf pounds were devoted from the -- diverted from the budget. The

:20:28.:20:34.

money was diverted to be put into frae

:20:35.:20:34.

money was diverted to be put into free schools and a lot of them

:20:35.:20:36.

money was diverted to be put into free schoolc and a lot of them havE

:20:37.:20:36.

money was diverted to be put into closed down. What a waste of money.

:20:37.:20:38.

closed down. hat a waste of mnney. It ic

:20:39.:20:38.

closed down. hat a waste of mnney. It is not to say we want to see

:20:39.:20:41.

closed down. hat a waste of mnney. improvement on dedication

:20:42.:20:42.

improvement on dddacation performance, bpi SA figures

:20:43.:20:46.

improvement on dddacation demonstrate this, so we are

:20:47.:20:47.

improvement on dddacation deionstrate this, so we are not

:20:48.:20:47.

improvement on dddacation saying evdrqthinf

:20:48.:20:49.

improvement on dddacation saying everything is

:20:50.:20:50.

improvement on dddacation recognise there are areas that need

:20:51.:20:52.

recognise t`ere `re areas that need to be improved. We have provided

:20:53.:20:53.

expra to be improved. We have provided

:20:54.:20:55.

extra money for the bottom 40 to be improved. We have provided

:20:56.:20:56.

secondary schools in Wales, and they to be improved. We have provided

:20:57.:21:00.

are having extra help as well. Bepter

:21:01.:21:00.

are having extra help as well. Better that than saying we will

:21:01.:21:02.

are having extra help as well. build any more sbhools `nd

:21:03.:21:05.

are having extra help as well. shovelling the money into a

:21:06.:21:06.

shovellinf dhe mnney into a pipe dream project, which is what has

:21:07.:21:07.

shovellinf dhe mnney into a pipe happened in England. On

:21:08.:21:11.

happened hn England. On t`e economy, you are sending a message that it is

:21:12.:21:13.

onhy you are sending a message that it is

:21:14.:21:14.

only the south-east and you are sending a message that it is

:21:15.:21:14.

only the soeth-east and London you are sending a message that it is

:21:15.:21:15.

only the south-east and London that you are sending a message that it is

:21:16.:21:16.

you can really feel you are sending a message that it is

:21:17.:21:20.

the other hand, you say look at the Wehs`

:21:21.:21:20.

the other hand, you say look at the Welsh economy, it is doing with the

:21:21.:21:22.

the other hand, you say look at the well. Which is it? I have not said

:21:23.:21:26.

wehl. hich is it? I have not raid it is only in London you feel the

:21:27.:21:28.

recofery. it is only in London you feel the

:21:29.:21:34.

recovery. The fact that use an opponent hs

:21:35.:21:34.

recovery. The fact that use an opponent is so low

:21:35.:21:35.

recovery. The fact that use an opponent hs so low in

:21:36.:21:36.

recovery. The fact that use an of schemes like Jobs Growth Wales,

:21:37.:21:38.

recovery. The fact that use an unemployment is lower in Wales than

:21:39.:21:40.

in London. I would argue unemployment is lower in Wales than

:21:41.:21:42.

in London, A would argud that in London. I would argue that what

:21:43.:21:45.

we have in Wales is Welsh Labour dehiferinf a

:21:46.:21:46.

we have in Wales is Welsh Labour delivering a better economy

:21:47.:21:48.

we have in Wales is Welsh Labour people of Wales. We could do so much

:21:49.:21:50.

bepter people of Wales. We could do so much

:21:51.:21:50.

better if t`e people of Wales. We could do so much

:21:51.:21:51.

better if the UK Government began to people of Wales. We could do so much

:21:52.:21:54.

work more quickly to improve people of Wales. We could do so much

:21:55.:21:54.

wopk more qeickly to improve our people of Wales. We could do so much

:21:55.:21:55.

economy. With young people, we have people of Wales. We could do so much

:21:56.:21:57.

got 8500 people in work because of people of Wales. We could do so much

:21:58.:21:59.

our scheme. people of Wales. We could do so much

:22:00.:22:00.

oup schemd. We saw the people of Wales. We could do so much

:22:01.:22:01.

our scheme. We saw the budget last people of Wales. We could do so much

:22:02.:22:01.

week. What was in it for young people of Wales. We could do so much

:22:02.:22:02.

people? Absolutely nothing. We have people? A`solutely nothhng. We have

:22:03.:22:04.

to have schemes in place to help our people? A`solutely nothhng. We have

:22:05.:22:08.

yoqngsters. Let's people? A`solutely nothhng. We have

:22:09.:22:08.

youngsters. Let's have a work about people? A`solutely nothhng. We have

:22:09.:22:14.

rail electrification. Where are we on this now? If David Cameron

:22:15.:22:17.

on this nnw? f David C`meron rays not a penny for the valleys lines,

:22:18.:22:19.

is at the end of the project, not a penny for the valleys lines,

:22:20.:22:22.

will you come up with not a penny for the valleys lines,

:22:23.:22:23.

wihl you bome up with some cash? not a penny for the valleys lines,

:22:24.:22:25.

is not for me to justify. The Prime Minicter raad th`t the TK Government

:22:26.:22:32.

was paying for the lot. He said that to me in a meeting in London before

:22:33.:22:34.

was paying for the lot. He said that other leaders. The secretary of

:22:35.:22:36.

otheb leadebs. The secretary of state said at,

:22:37.:22:37.

otheb leadebs. The secretary of state said it, and

:22:38.:22:38.

otheb leadebs. The secretary of state said at, ald it has

:22:39.:22:39.

otheb leadebs. The secretary of state said it, and it has been said

:22:40.:22:39.

state said at, ald it h`s been said many

:22:40.:22:39.

state said at, ald it h`s been said maly times

:22:40.:22:40.

state said at, ald it h`s been said many times by others. It was never

:22:41.:22:42.

suggested that the people of Wales suggested t`at the people of W`les

:22:43.:22:46.

would have to pay for it. We don't hold the budget

:22:47.:22:47.

would have to pay for it. We don't hold the `udget dor

:22:48.:22:47.

would have to pay for it. We don't hold the budget for railways, so

:22:48.:22:50.

work would we offer to pay for soiedhing

:22:51.:22:51.

work would we offer to pay for something we don't hold the budget

:22:52.:22:53.

for? When the Prime Minister is something we don't hold the budget

:22:54.:22:55.

saying on TV the UK Government is saying on TF the UC ovdrnment is

:22:56.:22:57.

paying, then you have to take him at saying on TF the UC ovdrnment is

:22:58.:22:59.

his word. saying on TF the UC ovdrnment is

:23:00.:23:02.

let's make sure that saying on TF the UC ovdrnment is

:23:03.:23:03.

lep's makd cure that he saying on TF the UC ovdrnment is

:23:04.:23:04.

let's make sure that he holds to the promased

:23:05.:23:05.

let's make sure that he holds to the promised that he made publicly

:23:06.:23:06.

let's make sure that he holds to the the people of Wales. Are you making

:23:07.:23:09.

that call? What is happening behind that call? Ghat hs happdnang bdhind

:23:10.:23:12.

the scenes? We asked the Department that call? Ghat hs happdnang bdhind

:23:13.:23:18.

of Transport for a meeting last of Tbanspnrd for a meeting last

:23:19.:23:21.

week. They refused. I understand thare

:23:22.:23:21.

week. They refused. I understand there is some movement to begin

:23:22.:23:23.

those series of meetings. I want those seriec of leetingr. I want to

:23:24.:23:25.

see a rectification take place. those seriec of leetingr. I want to

:23:26.:23:27.

want to see our railways modernise. those seriec of leetingr. I want to

:23:28.:23:35.

At the end of those seriec of leetingr. I want to

:23:36.:23:35.

At t`e end of thd those seriec of leetingr. I want to

:23:36.:23:36.

At the end of the day, we want to those seriec of leetingr. I want to

:23:37.:23:37.

get this done. Let's talk and work gep dhis done. Ldt's talk and vork

:23:38.:23:41.

things out for the people of Wales. London is having ?4.7 billion

:23:42.:23:43.

things out for the people of Wales. through Crossrail. Is it

:23:44.:23:46.

throegh Cpocsrail. Is it really asking too much for the UK

:23:47.:23:48.

Govebnment asking too much for the UK

:23:49.:23:50.

Government to pay ?30 million a year for the Valley lines when, at

:23:51.:23:53.

Government to pay ?30 million a year end of the day, this is something

:23:54.:23:55.

Government to pay ?30 million a year that is not devolved? I think it is

:23:56.:24:01.

Government to pay ?30 million a year pretty reasonable. Now, the Barnett

:24:02.:24:03.

Government to pay ?30 million a year formula, the way money comes to

:24:04.:24:04.

Wahec. formula, the way money comes to

:24:05.:24:04.

Wales. You have got your formula, the way money comes to

:24:05.:24:06.

in Scotland saying in Scotlald sayilg the ro-called

:24:07.:24:11.

Barnett works for the UK. You don't in Scotlald sayilg the ro-called

:24:12.:24:14.

think it does. Who is right think it does. Who is rig`t within

:24:15.:24:21.

the Labour Party? The Scots are defending

:24:22.:24:22.

the Labour Party? The Scots are dedending t`eir position,

:24:23.:24:23.

the Labour Party? The Scots are defending their position, and we are

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defending t`eir position, and ve are defending hours. We are underfunded

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to the tune of ?300 million a year. to the tule of ?200 million a xear.

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That could go into, for epample, the to the tule of ?200 million a xear.

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health service in Wales. The Scots to the tule of ?200 million a xear.

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coqld takd a to the tule of ?200 million a xear.

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could take a different position, that is up do

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could take a different position, that is up to them. Then is to be

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that is up do thdm. hen as to be a fair funding process

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that is up do thdm. hen as to be a fair fundhng process across

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that is up do thdm. hen as to be a fair funding process across the

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fair fundhng process across thd whole of the UK, including

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whole of the K, includhng the endless regions, and it

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whole of the K, includhng the endless regaons, and it is

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whole of the K, includhng the endless regions, and it is time we

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endless regaons, and it is timd we looked at this nnw.

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endless regaons, and it is timd we looked at this now. This system

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endless regaons, and it is timd we have in place is more than 30 years

:24:51.:24:53.

endless regaons, and it is timd we old. It can't last for

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endless regaons, and it is timd we old. It can't lart for dver. I

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endless regaons, and it is timd we old. It can't last for ever. I want

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endless regaons, and it is timd we Wales to have a fair

:24:56.:24:56.

endless regaons, and it is timd we funding. But you are from the same

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party. When you heard Joanne Lamont papty. Whdn you heard Jnanne L`mont

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saying that, it works for the UK, I papty. Whdn you heard Jnanne L`mont

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just wondered, did you pick up the telephone and tell her it does

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just wondered, did you pick up the work for Wales? You

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just wondered, did you pick up the wopk for Vales? Xou must

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just wondered, did you pick up the work for Wales? You must be

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just wondered, did you pick up the with her comments.

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just wondered, did you pick up the wiph her comments. No,

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just wondered, did you pick up the with her comments. No, with

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just wondered, did you pick up the devolution there are different views

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wiphan devolution there are different views

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within the devolution there are different views

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within thd parties. devolution there are different views

:25:18.:25:18.

within the parties. We are not a devolution there are different views

:25:19.:25:20.

mololithic party where devolution there are different views

:25:21.:25:20.

monolithic party where there is one line from John O'Groats Alway down.

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We in production have a view on line from John O'Groats Alway down.

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Barnett. That is democracy, I have Barnett. That is democracq, I have

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no problem with that. My view is Barnett. That is democracq, I have

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that we should sit down after Barnett. That is democracq, I have

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Scottish referendum and work Barnett. That is democracq, I have

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what is fair for everyone and then what is faib for everyone and then

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nobody can have any what is faib for everyone and then

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Carwyn Jones, thank you for your tiie. ell, in ole of

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Carwyn Jones, thank you for your time. Well, in one of this

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tiie. Well, in ole of this morning's debates, delegates

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tiie. Well, in ole of this discussed how

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tiie. Well, in ole of this discessed how they want

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tiie. Well, in ole of this discussed how they want Wales

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tiie. Well, in ole of this look in 2020, and one of the

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tiie. Well, in ole of this speakers was

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tiie. Well, in ole of this speacers vas lalelli

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tiie. Well, in ole of this speakers was Llanelli MP Nia

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Griffith. I feel we need to be confident,

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Griffith. I deel we need to be confadent, we

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Griffith. need to be bold about policy. We

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must not be distracted by those need to be bold about policy. We

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siren voices sipen voicec in the right-wing

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press, by the sipen voicec in the right-wing

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prasc, by t`e awdul sipen voicec in the right-wing

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press, by the awful tori slapping sipen voicec in the right-wing

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off of Wales. Just remember the napional

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off of Wales. Just remember the national linimum wage,

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off of Wales. Just remember the national minimum wage, the faster we

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ha` national minimum wage, the faster we

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had to get that implemented. Just remember the viciousness with which

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had to get that implemented. Just we were told there would be massive

:26:23.:26:24.

job losses, and yet we did we were told there would be massive

:26:25.:26:26.

jo` losses, and xet we did it. we were told there would be massive

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Remember clause 28 and the Tories, what they were saying about gay

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Remember clause 28 and the Tories, people. Ald

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Remember clause 28 and the Tories, people. And today,

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Remember clause 28 and the Tories, people. Ald today, we

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Remember clause 28 and the Tories, celebrating the first day of gay

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Remember clause 28 and the Tories, mapraage beang illegal.

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mapriage `eang illegal. -- leg`l. And that would never have happened

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mapriage `eang illegal. -- leg`l. if Labour had not stood up, if

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mapriage `eang illegal. -- leg`l. Labour had not

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mapriage `eang illegal. -- leg`l. La`oer had not m`de

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mapriage `eang illegal. -- leg`l. Labour had not made the fight for

:26:51.:26:51.

La`oer had not m`de the faght for gay rights. So, let's not be

:26:52.:26:53.

La`oer had not m`de the faght for distracted by all the criticism

:26:54.:26:54.

La`oer had not m`de the faght for distracted by all the criticisl that

:26:55.:26:55.

La`oer had not m`de the faght for we will surely get if we are bold

:26:56.:26:57.

La`oer had not m`de the faght for we wall strely gdt if we are bold in

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La`oer had not m`de the faght for our manifesto going forward to 2020.

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Lep'c our manifesto going forward to 2020.

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Let's look at some of the ways in whic` the Welsh

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Let's look at some of the ways in which the Welsh Government is

:27:05.:27:05.

Let's look at some of the ways in working to

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Let's look at some of the ways in wopking to dovetail

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Let's look at some of the ways in working to dovetail with what we

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have got in our manifesto for hate got hn our lanifesto for 2015.

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Using public procurement to stamp oup

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Using public procurement to stamp out blacklisting. It is an important

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Using public procurement to stamp step forward that this Welsh

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Using public procurement to stamp Government is taking. Look at what

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has happened about the agricultural wagec

:27:27.:27:28.

wages board. Westminster Government decides to abolish it. Here

:27:29.:27:30.

wages board. Westminster Government Wales, we want to try to keep some

:27:31.:27:33.

form of agricultural wages Wales, we want to try to keep some

:27:34.:27:35.

fopm of afracultural wages board. form of agricultural wages board.

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Bup ghat form of agricultural wages board.

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But what happens? A tact by form of agricultural wages board.

:27:38.:27:38.

Bup ghat ha`pens? A tact by thd form of agricultural wages board.

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Westminster Government. Not only atpacked, peblic

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Westminster Government. Not only attacked, public money wasted going

:27:42.:27:45.

to court to try to stop having what Welsh people want. That is what has

:27:46.:27:47.

to court to try to stop having what happened. Those attempts to

:27:48.:27:57.

to court to try to stop having what the Welsh Government on the

:27:58.:27:58.

agricultupal the Welsh Government on the

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agricultural wages board is contempti`le.

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agricultural wages board is contemptible. Let's look at that

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agricultural wages board is wages board. What could Wales do

:28:03.:28:06.

agricultural wages board is differently? Could we spread

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agricultural wages board is to other sectors? Other models we

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mighd to other sectors? Other models we

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might want to put in a broader pohicy

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might want to put in a broader policy manifesto?

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might want to put in a broader policy malifesto? But, let's

:28:13.:28:13.

might want to put in a broader policy manifesto? But, let's make no

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might want to put in a broader mistake. This

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might want to put in a broader mistake. Thas Government an

:28:15.:28:15.

might want to put in a broader Westminster is about no redress for

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Westminster is a`out no redresr for ordinary people. It'll cost you

:28:17.:28:23.

Westminster is a`out no redresr for go to implement tribunal.

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go to implement trabunal. No defence, legal

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go to implement trabunal. No dedence, legal ahd

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go to implement trabunal. No defence, legal aid being scrapped

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go to implement trabunal. No for all sorts of areas. Really,

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go to implement trabunal. No really hard times for people. Taking

:28:31.:28:33.

really hapd times for pdople. Taking on the 0-hours contract, yes, we are

:28:34.:28:36.

on t`e 0-hoers contract, qes, ve are going to tackle those. Zero hours,

:28:37.:28:42.

zero right contracts. That is what they are. Zero right contracts.

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Becaese they are. Zero right contracts.

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Because you don't have any rights. That is what we

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Because you don't have any rights. That is whad we `re

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Because you don't have any rights. That is what we are going to put

:28:50.:28:49.

That is whad we `re going to ptt right. In our manifesto for

:28:50.:28:52.

That is whad we `re going to ptt have said, if you are working

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That is whad we `re going to ptt regular hours, then you have to

:28:55.:28:56.

regular hnubs, then you have to have a contract. That is what we have

:28:57.:28:58.

regular hnubs, then you have to have been trying to do with some

:28:59.:29:00.

regular hnubs, then you have to have bean tryilg to dn with rome of

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regular hnubs, then you have to have been trying to do with some of the

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regular hnubs, then you have to have supermarkets they work

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regular hnubs, then you have to have supebmarkdtc they work with.

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regular hnubs, then you have to have supermarkets they work with. Think

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regular hnubs, then you have to have Spike annualised hours, see you can

:29:04.:29:05.

keap Spike annualised hours, see you can

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keep flexibility, but Spike annualised hours, see you can

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keap flexibility, but ynu Spike annualised hours, see you can

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keep flexibility, but you have Spike annualised hours, see you can

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security and some employment rights. Spike annualised hours, see you can

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That is what we are Spike annualised hours, see you can

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That is whad we are looking Spike annualised hours, see you can

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That is what we are looking at as the UK Labour Party. We want to

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incentivise us -- we want to the UK Labour Party. We want to

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incentivise the living wage. Ed the UK Labour Party. We want to

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Miliband's has said we will Mihiband's has s`id we vill

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incentivise employers by giving them a tax break. That

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incentivise employers by giving them a pax break. That will not

:29:28.:29:28.

incentivise employers by giving them a tax break. That will not cost

:29:29.:29:28.

moneq a tax break. That will not cost

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moley becauce a tax break. That will not cost

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money because effectively we a tax break. That will not cost

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moley becauce efdectively we will money because effectively we will

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save so much more money on tax credits

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save so much more money on tax credats ald

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save so much more money on tax credits and yet

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save so much more money on tax credats ald yet here

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save so much more money on tax credits and yet here in Wales,

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save so much more money on tax credats ald yet here in Wales, there

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credits and yet here in Wales, there ara

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credits and yet here in Wales, there are opportunities we can lead by

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ara opportunities we can lead by example and I

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ara opportunities we can lead by exam`le ald I know

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ara opportunities we can lead by example and I know many councils are

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ara opportunities we can lead by already trying to bring up their

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already tpyang to bring up their wages. Labour led councils bringing

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up wages so that everybody gets at wages. Labour led councils bringing

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least the minimum wage. So wages. Labour led councils bringing

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leasd the manimul wage. So we least the minimum wage. So we can

:29:46.:29:45.

look at dning things in Wales, least the minimum wage. So we can

:29:46.:29:47.

look at doing things in Wales, doing look at dning thhngs in Wales, doing

:29:48.:29:50.

things first which then feed into the

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things first which then feed into tha EK

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things first which then feed into the UK and vice versa. When we

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tha EK and fice tersa. Vhen we hopefully abe

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tha EK and fice tersa. Vhen we hopefully are backing Government in

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2015. What I would say is as we hopefully are backing Government in

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at the policies now for 2020, at the policies low for 2020, let's

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not be afraid at the policies low for 2020, let's

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nop be afpaad of at the policies low for 2020, let's

:30:03.:30:03.

not be afraid of things like free nop be afpaad of t`ings lake free

:30:04.:30:04.

school meals. Let's not be afraid of nop be afpaad of t`ings lake free

:30:05.:30:07.

things like policies which might things like policies whhc` might be

:30:08.:30:09.

criticised, which might look like things like policies whhc` might be

:30:10.:30:13.

are pushing out the boat too far. Remember

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are pushing out the boat too far. Reiember that

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are pushing out the boat too far. Remember that whilst we want

:30:14.:30:14.

are pushing out the boat too far. Remember that whhlst we want to

:30:15.:30:15.

are pushing out the boat too far. Remember that whilst we want to be

:30:16.:30:15.

bepter Remember that whilst we want to be

:30:16.:30:15.

better together, we need Remember that whilst we want to be

:30:16.:30:19.

strung together when we are going to take on the vested interests of the

:30:20.:30:20.

bankc and take on the vested interests of the

:30:21.:30:23.

banks and the energy companies. We also want in Wales to dare to be

:30:24.:30:25.

different and to do what we feel also want in Wales to dare to be

:30:26.:30:27.

the right thing for the people of the right t`ing dor the people of

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Wahec. APPLAUSE

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Wahec. She

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Wahec. Sha gas

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Wahec. She was addressing conference

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earlier. She was addressing conference

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Let's speak to our political editor now. What did you make of

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now. What dad you make nf Carwyn Jones's speech? Hello.

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now. What dad you make nf Carwyn Jonec's speech? Hello. An

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now. What dad you make nf Carwyn Jones's speech? Hello. An awful

:30:49.:30:49.

now. What dad you make nf Carwyn of it was as trailed in terms of a

:30:50.:30:51.

fuhl of it was as trailed in terms of a

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full frontal attack of it was as trailed in terms of a

:30:55.:30:55.

Conservatives. That is pretty much of it was as trailed in terms of a

:30:56.:30:56.

how they want things to be how dhey vant thhngs to be seen.

:30:57.:30:57.

Speaking to lots of delegates Spaacing to lots of delegates `nd

:30:58.:31:01.

Labour Assembly members and MPs, Spaacing to lots of delegates `nd

:31:02.:31:03.

perfectly happy for this to be seen perfectly happy dor this to be seen

:31:04.:31:06.

as an old-fashioned perfectly happy dor this to be seen

:31:07.:31:07.

as an old,fashioned scrap between perfectly happy dor this to be seen

:31:08.:31:07.

Labour and the Tories. In fact, Laboer and dhe Tnraes. Hn fact,

:31:08.:31:13.

relishing that battle. That overall message that we

:31:14.:31:14.

relishing that battle. That overall message thad we have

:31:15.:31:14.

relishing that battle. That overall message that we have from Carwyn

:31:15.:31:15.

Jonec message that we have from Carwyn

:31:16.:31:15.

Jones and I message that we have from Carwyn

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Jonec and I thinj probablq, for message that we have from Carwyn

:31:20.:31:20.

certainly as long as I can member, message that we have from Carwyn

:31:21.:31:22.

the strongest criticism, sustained tha ctronfect critacism, sustahned

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criticism, from him directly at the critacism, from him directly at the

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Conservatives that we have heard in critacism, from him directly at the

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that speech and also I think a long critacism, from him directly at the

:31:31.:31:32.

record of what he believes are the critacism, from him directly at the

:31:33.:31:35.

achievements of the Welsh achievemeltc of the elsh

:31:36.:31:36.

Government. achievemeltc of the elsh

:31:37.:31:38.

Gotebnment. To achievemeltc of the elsh

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Government. To some extent, achievemeltc of the elsh

:31:39.:31:39.

Gotebnment. To snme extent, fessing achievemeltc of the elsh

:31:40.:31:42.

up on the failures and the problems that there have been in the

:31:43.:31:45.

up on the failures and the problems Interestingly, kind of moving on the

:31:46.:31:47.

battle ground and to the areas on Interestingly, kind of moving on the

:31:48.:31:50.

the NHS targets that they feel they the NH targets that thdy feel they

:31:51.:31:53.

are on safer territory. Things like the NH targets that thdy feel they

:31:54.:31:56.

cancer care, things like cancer cape, thilgs likd the

:31:57.:31:59.

cross-border services as we heard from some English MPs, this idea of

:32:00.:32:02.

Welsh patients fleeing into England. Welsh patients fleeing into England.

:32:03.:32:05.

They feel they are stronger ground Welsh patients fleeing into England.

:32:06.:32:06.

on that putting. Just to quickly run Welsh patients fleeing into England.

:32:07.:32:09.

through some of the other elements Welsh patients fleeing into England.

:32:10.:32:13.

within his speech. More than just a passang

:32:14.:32:14.

within his speech. More than just a passing reference to the Williams

:32:15.:32:15.

within his speech. More than just a Commission, this is all about the

:32:16.:32:17.

within his speech. More than just a reorganisation of councils in Wales.

:32:18.:32:19.

Tahk reorganisation of councils in Wales.

:32:20.:32:20.

Talk about it quite Talk about at quhte subrtantially

:32:21.:32:21.

and I think behind that this Talk about at quhte subrtantially

:32:22.:32:23.

something Talk about at quhte subrtantially

:32:24.:32:23.

somedhing t`at h`d an avful Talk about at quhte subrtantially

:32:24.:32:24.

something that had an awful lot of Talk about at quhte subrtantially

:32:25.:32:24.

pu`lacity about sip weeks Talk about at quhte subrtantially

:32:25.:32:28.

publicity about six weeks ago. And it is something he wants to keep on

:32:29.:32:30.

the agenda and speaking to the agend` and speaking to him after

:32:31.:32:32.

the speech, he felt it was something tha cpeech, he felt it vas somdthing

:32:33.:32:34.

he did not let go because tha cpeech, he felt it vas somdthing

:32:35.:32:36.

made such a big thing of it tha cpeech, he felt it vas somdthing

:32:37.:32:37.

politically. Interesting tha cpeech, he felt it vas somdthing

:32:38.:32:38.

polidically. Interestinf meNtion tha cpeech, he felt it vas somdthing

:32:39.:32:40.

the introduction of one member one tha cpeech, he felt it vas somdthing

:32:41.:32:41.

vote within the Labour tha cpeech, he felt it vas somdthing

:32:42.:32:42.

Wales. Again, something certainly he tha cpeech, he felt it vas somdthing

:32:43.:32:46.

felt there was a degree of tha cpeech, he felt it vas somdthing

:32:47.:32:48.

inevitability about because it is tha cpeech, he felt it vas somdthing

:32:49.:32:49.

one of the reforms that is being tha cpeech, he felt it vas somdthing

:32:50.:32:53.

introduced by Ed Miliband's. We heard his s`eech

:32:54.:32:53.

introduced by Ed Miliband's. We heard his speech as

:32:54.:32:54.

introduced by Ed Miliband's. We heard his s`eech as well and

:32:55.:32:54.

introduced by Ed Miliband's. We heard his speech as well and you

:32:55.:32:54.

have heard his speech as well and you

:32:55.:32:55.

hate been speakilg to heard his speech as well and you

:32:56.:32:55.

have been speaking to him since that heard his speech as well and you

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speech. What did he have to say? He was `retty relaxed. I spoce

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speech. What did he have to say? He was pretty relaxed. I spoke to

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speech. What did he have to say? He after his speech. I

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speech. What did he have to say? He afper his speech, I think it was

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speech. What did he have to say? He very much

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speech. What did he have to say? He vepy much a

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speech. What did he have to say? He very much a sense of Welsh Labour

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geptang very much a sense of Welsh Labour

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getting the kind of warm embrace of the Laboup

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getting the kind of warm embrace of the Labour leadership at a

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Westminster level as a result of so the Labour leadership at a

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much of the criticism that has been the Labour leadership at a

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put on Welsh Labour and the put on Welsh abnur and t`e Welsh

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Government, and interestingly as Gotebnment, and hnterestingly `s an

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aside, I was chatting to Peter Hain, Gotebnment, and hnterestingly `s an

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the MP for Neath and these you -- his view on this is that because of

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the MP for Neath and these you -- the criticism of the Welsh

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the MP for Neath and these you -- Gotebnment an

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the MP for Neath and these you -- Government in the UK press, it

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Gotebnment an thd UK press, it has put them into the Premier League of

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pup dhem hndo thd Premier Leagte of British politics. He does

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pup dhem hndo thd Premier Leagte of Britash polatics, @e does not want

:33:38.:33:37.

British politics. He does not want to denigrate Welsh politics but thE

:33:38.:33:40.

to denigrate Welsh politics but the poind is, id was raised

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to denigrate Welsh politics but the point is, it was raised that such a

:33:43.:33:45.

high level and I spoke to Ed Miliband about that and whether he

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felt it was harming feht it was harmhng his c`ances of

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being elected and winning the feht it was harmhng his c`ances of

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general election, of course he is gelebal election, of course he is

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going to say it isn't. Of course he gelebal election, of course he is

:33:54.:33:55.

is going to give his full support to is going to give has full suppnrt to

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Carwyn Jones. Again, when is going to give has full suppnrt to

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Capwyn Jolec. Ag`in, whdn it is going to give has full suppnrt to

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Carwyn Jones. Again, when it came to is going to give has full suppnrt to

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the NHS, he admitted that there had bean

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the NHS, he admitted that there had been problems but again moved to the

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the NHS, he admitted that there had area, particularly in the realms of

:34:07.:34:07.

cancer care, where he felt the area, particularly in the realms of

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Labour Party was on stronger Laboer Party was on stronger

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territory. He said he had spoken Laboer Party was on stronger

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terratory. He sahd he had spokdn to Laboer Party was on stronger

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the women Laboer Party was on stronger

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tha gomen who raised the concerns Laboer Party was on stronger

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she had. I asked Laboer Party was on stronger

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agreed with the braticism Laboer Party was on stronger

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agreed with the criticism by Laboer Party was on stronger

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Jones and he said he was keeping out Jonec and he said `e war ceeping out

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of it and didn't want to Jonec and he said `e war ceeping out

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involved on that front. This issue Jonec and he said `e war ceeping out

:34:28.:34:28.

of the Labour fightback, what a lot Jonec and he said `e war ceeping out

:34:29.:34:31.

of people are talking about is Jonec and he said `e war ceeping out

:34:32.:34:33.

whether it has come too late. There Jonec and he said `e war ceeping out

:34:34.:34:40.

is this kind of oil tanker Jonec and he said `e war ceeping out

:34:41.:34:40.

is this khnd of oil tanjer off Jonec and he said `e war ceeping out

:34:41.:34:40.

is this kind of oil tanker off a Jonec and he said `e war ceeping out

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naprative t`at is out there Jonec and he said `e war ceeping out

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narrative that is out there with many of the UK papers about failing

:34:43.:34:45.

many of the U p`pers about fahling public services in Wales. That

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many of the U p`pers about fahling is out there now. The

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many of the U p`pers about fahling the challenge is for all of this

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the challenge is for all of thhs fightback that

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fighdback t`at we `ear from Ed Miliband and Carwyn Jones, is

:34:53.:34:54.

whether Miliband and Carwyn Jones, is

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whet`er theq can change Miliband and Carwyn Jones, is

:34:55.:34:55.

whether they can change the Miliband and Carwyn Jones, is

:34:56.:34:56.

perception out there that has Miliband and Carwyn Jones, is

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writden aboet in huge selling Miliband and Carwyn Jones, is

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newspapers across the United Kingdom an`

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newspapers across the United Kingdom and that is the challenge. Ed

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Mihiband's and that is the challenge. Ed

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Miliband's will say that they can do it, I was talking to another Labour

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it( A was talkinf to annt`er L`bour MP just now and he felt that on the

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issue of should it MP just now and he felt that on the

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issue of should ht earlier, he MP just now and he felt that on the

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issue of should it earlier, he felt MP just now and he felt that on the

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they should wait until think should MP just now and he felt that on the

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get this far. -- Ed Miliband will gep dhis dab. -- Ed iliband will

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say. They didn't understand gep dhis dab. -- Ed iliband will

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strong the attacks on the Welsh Laboer

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strong the attacks on the Welsh Labour Government were going to

:35:27.:35:27.

strong the attacks on the Welsh Laboer Gotebnment were foang to be

:35:28.:35:27.

Labour Government were going to be wiphan thd

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Labour Government were going to be within the UK press and

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Labour Government were going to be wiphan thd UK press and the

:35:29.:35:28.

within the UK press and the Conservatives. So the kind of had to

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wait, in their view, for those critacismr

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wait, in their view, for those criticismr do

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wait, in their view, for those criticisms to get out of order. --

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wait, in their view, for those the kind of had to wait. It is

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the cind nf had to wait. At is attacking not just politicians, but

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the cind nf had to wait. At is all sorts of people are being caught

:35:41.:35:42.

alh corts of people are being baught up in it. Wait until things have got

:35:43.:35:47.

to that stage and then launch their fighdback,

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to that stage and then launch their fightback. He felt that the time was

:35:48.:35:49.

to that stage and then launch their right but not everyone agrees.

:35:50.:35:51.

to that stage and then launch their you. One of the key debates this

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mornang you. One of the key debates this

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mopnang was May's European elections morning was May's European elections

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and one of the main speakers was the morning was May's European elections

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Finance Minister, Jane Hutt, who said European Union membership was

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impobtant said European Union membership was

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important to the Welsh economy. Tha economic bendfats

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important to the Welsh economy. The economic benefits to Wales must

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be made clear in our message. Since be made clear in our message. Rince

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2007, the investment of 2 billion of be made clear in our message. Rince

:36:10.:36:13.

EU regional be made clear in our message. Rince

:36:14.:36:13.

EU region`l funds be made clear in our message. Rince

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EU regional funds in the Welsh be made clear in our message. Rince

:36:14.:36:16.

economy has helped to create 6000 new businesses and nearly 20,000

:36:17.:36:21.

economy has helped to create 6000 jobs. The investment has also

:36:22.:36:24.

jo`s. The investment har also supported 50,000 people across the

:36:25.:36:25.

jo`s. The investment har also whole of Vales ilto

:36:26.:36:29.

jo`s. The investment har also 140,000 people to gain skills and

:36:30.:36:30.

qualafications. 140,000 people to gain skills and

:36:31.:36:33.

qualifications. -- and nearly qualafications. ,- and nearly

:36:34.:36:34.

140,000. Our Jobs Growth 140,000. Nub obr Growth Wales

:36:35.:36:40.

programme is helping 16,000 young people, that is `bout

:36:41.:36:42.

people, that is about our priobities,

:36:43.:36:43.

people, that is about our priorities, that is the priorities

:36:44.:36:43.

of a Welsh Labour priorities, that is the priorities

:36:44.:36:45.

of a Welsh Laboup Government. @nd It priorities, that is the priorities

:36:46.:36:46.

is young people, young people like priorities, that is the priorities

:36:47.:36:49.

Victoria and Craig who progressed Victoria `nd rahg who progresred

:36:50.:36:50.

from Jobs Growth Wales into Victoria `nd rahg who progresred

:36:51.:36:54.

permanent jobs at Admiral insurance in Cardiff and who impressed our new

:36:55.:36:58.

permanent jobs at Admiral insurance commissioner, on his recent visit to

:36:59.:36:59.

commassioleb, on has recent visit to Wales. And the businesses I met

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commassioleb, on has recent visit to yesterday with an Jones and Chris

:37:03.:37:05.

Rayner at the business park, yesterday with an Jones and Chris

:37:06.:37:06.

are businesses praising graduate yesterday with an Jones and Chris

:37:07.:37:10.

oppobtunities, praising yesterday with an Jones and Chris

:37:11.:37:10.

opportunities, praising Jobs Growth opportunities, ppaasing Jobs Growth

:37:11.:37:12.

Wales and saying, can you make opportunities, ppaasing Jobs Growth

:37:13.:37:16.

that is a priority for the future because the young people who have

:37:17.:37:17.

that is a priority for the future come to us, to our businesses, have

:37:18.:37:19.

that is a priority for the future been outstanding and we could

:37:20.:37:20.

that is a priority for the future get them in because of Jobs Growth

:37:21.:37:25.

Wales and t`e get them in because of Jobs Growth

:37:26.:37:26.

Wales and the other organisations as Walec and t`e other org`nasations as

:37:27.:37:27.

well. Electrical Walec and t`e other org`nasations as

:37:28.:37:28.

apprentices I met earlier this week, Walec and t`e other org`nasations as

:37:29.:37:32.

they are all in work and training Walec and t`e other org`nasations as

:37:33.:37:38.

with bright prospects, each person backed by the Welsh Government and

:37:39.:37:39.

with bright prospects, each person the European social fund. Thanks to

:37:40.:37:43.

Derek Vaughan and his exemplary the European social fund. Thanks to

:37:44.:37:45.

work, his track record on achieving the European social fund. Thanks to

:37:46.:37:49.

and delivering for Wales. We have now an frond of us

:37:50.:37:53.

and delivering for Wales. We have now in front of us between 2014 and

:37:54.:37:54.

and delivering for Wales. We have 2020 over two billion of new

:37:55.:37:55.

and delivering for Wales. We have regional funds which will become

:37:56.:37:59.

available to help build our economy an` create

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available to help build our economy and create skilled

:38:00.:37:59.

available to help build our economy an` create ckilled jobs.

:38:00.:38:01.

available to help build our economy and create skilled jobs. It was

:38:02.:38:01.

Derec and create skilled jobs. It was

:38:02.:38:03.

Derek Vaughan who delivered that for tha next

:38:04.:38:03.

Derek Vaughan who delivered that for the next seven

:38:04.:38:03.

Derek Vaughan who delivered that for tha next sefen years.

:38:04.:38:09.

Derek Vaughan who delivered that for the next seven years. Remember,

:38:10.:38:12.

Euro`e the next seven years. Remember,

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Europe is Wales's largest trading partner and it was -- it is 600

:38:14.:38:18.

firms across the nation partner and it was -- it is 600

:38:19.:38:20.

goods and services, some ?5 billion partner and it was -- it is 600

:38:21.:38:21.

every year to EU countries and partner and it was -- it is 600

:38:22.:38:24.

hundred and 50 firms from other EU partner and it was -- it is 600

:38:25.:38:26.

countries are locating in Wales, partner and it was -- it is 600

:38:27.:38:30.

providing more than 50,000 partner and it was -- it is 600

:38:31.:38:31.

Those are important facts in our partner and it was -- it is 600

:38:32.:38:34.

message. Wales's membership of the partner and it was -- it is 600

:38:35.:38:37.

EU is a major attraction for companies operating

:38:38.:38:38.

companies o`erating globally, helping them to have access to the

:38:39.:38:40.

companies o`erating globally, EU single market of over 500 million

:38:41.:38:42.

companies o`erating globally, consumers. Since 2007, over ?500

:38:43.:38:45.

companies o`erating globally, million of EU regional funding,

:38:46.:38:50.

companies o`erating globally, investing in our rural communities

:38:51.:38:51.

companies o`erating globally, in Wales with rural business and

:38:52.:38:54.

in Wales widh rupal bushness and communities benefiting from that

:38:55.:38:55.

in Wales widh rupal bushness and investment. Our universities are

:38:56.:38:58.

benefitinf cignidicantly investment. Our universities are

:38:59.:39:00.

benefiting significantly from EU search fundang.

:39:01.:39:02.

benefiting significantly from EU search funding. One project down the

:39:03.:39:04.

benefiting significantly from EU road at Bangor University is one

:39:05.:39:06.

example road at Bangor University is one

:39:07.:39:06.

exam`le od road at Bangor University is one

:39:07.:39:07.

example of that. EU funding that has hehped finance the

:39:08.:39:09.

example of that. EU funding that has helped finance the transformation of

:39:10.:39:09.

example of that. EU funding that has our further education colleges

:39:10.:39:12.

acrocs our further education colleges

:39:13.:39:14.

across Wales, delivering vital skills for the benefit and growth

:39:15.:39:15.

skills fop dhe bdnefit `nd growth of our economy. We must remember that

:39:16.:39:19.

skills fop dhe bdnefit `nd growth of EU legislation and funding has

:39:20.:39:20.

skills fop dhe bdnefit `nd growth of helped safeguard

:39:21.:39:21.

skills fop dhe bdnefit `nd growth of hehped sadeguard our

:39:22.:39:24.

skills fop dhe bdnefit `nd growth of Tackle fuel poverty, protect the

:39:25.:39:25.

healdh and Tackle fuel poverty, protect the

:39:26.:39:26.

health and safety of our workforce, healdh and cafety of our workforce,

:39:27.:39:28.

Welsh workers are protected through Wehs` workebs are protected through

:39:29.:39:31.

EU legislation and of course that is just one of the threats we need to

:39:32.:39:33.

expose with UKIP, as Derek just one of the threats we need to

:39:34.:39:37.

witnessed UKIP MEPs voting just one of the threats we need to

:39:38.:39:39.

proposals that improve safety, just one of the threats we need to

:39:40.:39:43.

protection and better standards of employment, rights for workers,

:39:44.:39:45.

partaculaplq employment, rights for workers,

:39:46.:39:45.

papticulaplq womdn, employment, rights for workers,

:39:46.:39:46.

particularly women, turning the clocc

:39:47.:39:47.

particularly women, turning the clock back on hard-won processes.

:39:48.:39:49.

That we have been making. Thanks to clock back on hard-won processes.

:39:50.:39:53.

Labour and our clock back on hard-won processes.

:39:54.:39:54.

La`oer and our trade clock back on hard-won processes.

:39:55.:39:54.

Labour and our trade unions, and clock back on hard-won processes.

:39:55.:39:55.

influence workinf clock back on hard-won processes.

:39:56.:39:56.

influence working together in Euro`e.

:39:57.:39:58.

influence working together in Europe. As the GMB motion says, we

:39:59.:40:00.

influence working together in must be prepared to fight for

:40:01.:40:01.

influence working together in social Europe that puts people

:40:02.:40:02.

influence working together in before profit.

:40:03.:40:05.

influence working together in befobe profat. So,

:40:06.:40:05.

influence working together in before profit. So, conference, the

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EU has helped us stand-up for Vales against the punitive polities of the

:40:09.:40:13.

EU has helped us stand-up for Vales Tory lead UK Government.

:40:14.:40:14.

Topy lead UK ovdrnment. Ed Miliband's has said there is an

:40:15.:40:15.

Miliband's `as s`id there is an overwhelming case for EU membership.

:40:16.:40:19.

Miliband's `as s`id there is an His recent statement on Europe, and

:40:20.:40:20.

hearang His recent statement on Europe, and

:40:21.:40:21.

hearing stated it today, His recent statement on Europe, and

:40:22.:40:22.

absolutely right and it was another absolutely bight and it was annther

:40:23.:40:24.

defining point in his leadership as absolutely bight and it was annther

:40:25.:40:26.

our future @rime absolutely bight and it was annther

:40:27.:40:26.

our future Prime Minister. He our future @rime Manister. He

:40:27.:40:29.

acknowledged and recognised it. our future @rime Manister. He

:40:30.:40:33.

we can go out and build on that our future @rime Manister. He

:40:34.:40:35.

message and build on the our future @rime Manister. He

:40:36.:40:37.

oppobtunities to our future @rime Manister. He

:40:38.:40:38.

opportunities to reform the EU togedher

:40:39.:40:38.

opportunities to reform the EU together `s

:40:39.:40:39.

opportunities to reform the EU together as we have

:40:40.:40:39.

opportunities to reform the EU together `s we h`ve said

:40:40.:40:40.

opportunities to reform the EU together as we have said with a

:40:41.:40:41.

opportunities to reform the EU strong labour voice in

:40:42.:40:41.

opportunities to reform the EU strong la`oer voice in Durope,

:40:42.:40:42.

strong labour voice in Europe, Westminster and Wales. So,

:40:43.:40:43.

Westminster and Vales. Ro, conference, we will campaigN

:40:44.:40:47.

Westminster and Vales. Ro, conference, we will campaign in our

:40:48.:40:48.

Westminster and Vales. Ro, commenities over

:40:49.:40:48.

Westminster and Vales. Ro, communities over the coming weeks or

:40:49.:40:49.

commenities over t`e coming weeks or remember the strong and positive

:40:50.:40:51.

commenities over t`e coming weeks or message. If you know an apprentice,

:40:52.:40:54.

yoq cnow message. If you know an apprentice,

:40:55.:40:55.

you know someone Labour and Europe has helped. If you know a young

:40:56.:40:57.

has helped. If ynu know a younf person on Jobs

:40:58.:41:00.

has helped. If ynu know a younf know someone that Labour and Europe

:41:01.:41:01.

has `elped. know someone that Labour and Europe

:41:02.:41:02.

has helped. If you know someone who has been helped into work through

:41:03.:41:06.

has helped. If you know someone who React, you know someone Labour and

:41:07.:41:07.

has helped. If you know someone who Europe has helped. If you know

:41:08.:41:10.

has helped. If you know someone who someone who has improved their skill

:41:11.:41:11.

has helped. If you know someone who chances, xoe now

:41:12.:41:13.

has helped. If you know someone who chances, you now that they have

:41:14.:41:14.

chances, xoe now t`at theq havd been helped by the Labour Party and

:41:15.:41:16.

chances, xoe now t`at theq havd been Europe. All of this threatened by

:41:17.:41:19.

Eupo`e. All of this threatened by UKIP and the Tories, only

:41:20.:41:22.

UKIP and the ories, only Labour will protect that funding and our

:41:23.:41:25.

citizens' needs effectively. will protect that funding and our

:41:26.:41:26.

citirens' needs dffectively. Let's cipizens' needs dffectively. Ldt's

:41:27.:41:28.

take this message out in the days ahead,

:41:29.:41:28.

take this message out in the days ahaad, in

:41:29.:41:30.

take this message out in the days ahead, in support of Derek, Jane,

:41:31.:41:31.

take this message out in the days Christine and Alex to make sure the

:41:32.:41:34.

take this message out in the days Labour Party wins for Wales on May

:41:35.:41:36.

take this message out in the days the 22nd.

:41:37.:41:38.

take this message out in the days tha 22nd. It is our duty and our

:41:39.:41:38.

the 22nd. It is our duty and our responsibhlaty.

:41:39.:41:42.

responsibility. Jane Hutt addressing the

:41:43.:41:43.

responsibility. earlier today.

:41:44.:41:48.

responsibility. Lep'c head

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responsibility. Let's head back to our reporter

:41:49.:41:49.

Jaiec Let's head back to our reporter

:41:50.:41:49.

James Williams, who is outside the Let's head back to our reporter

:41:50.:41:51.

conference hall. colference `all.

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Thank you. This conference comes a coqple

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Thank you. This conference comes a couple of months ahead of

:41:56.:41:56.

Thank you. This conference comes a European elections in May

:41:57.:41:56.

Thank you. This conference comes a Eupo`ean dlectiols in May and

:41:57.:41:57.

Thank you. This conference comes a European elections in May and so

:41:58.:41:57.

Thank you. This conference comes a am joined by two of the party's

:41:58.:41:59.

Thank you. This conference comes a candidates in those elections.

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Thank you. This conference comes a Second on the list, Jayne Bryant.

:42:04.:42:04.

Thank you. This conference comes a Thank you for joining us. Much was

:42:05.:42:05.

made about Carwyn Jones's speech Thank you for joining us. Much was

:42:06.:42:09.

the benefits to Thank you for joining us. Much was

:42:10.:42:10.

the benefitc to Vales Thank you for joining us. Much was

:42:11.:42:10.

the benefits to Wales of being in Thank you for joining us. Much was

:42:11.:42:12.

the EU. The giving the Labour Thank you for joining us. Much was

:42:13.:42:13.

Party's position with regards to a Thank you for joining us. Much was

:42:14.:42:15.

referendum are in Thank you for joining us. Much was

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referendum are il -- Thank you for joining us. Much was

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referendum are in -- on in Thank you for joining us. Much was

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referendum are il -- on in or nut referendum are in -- on in or out is

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claab referendum are in -- on in or out is

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clear enough? Carwyn Jones's speech referendum are in -- on in or out is

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was great, He knnws the importance referendum are in -- on in or out is

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of Europe to Wales. The Welsh Government is very strong about that

:42:30.:42:30.

of Europe to Wales. The Welsh and clear about that and I think

:42:31.:42:33.

of Europe to Wales. The Welsh that our message is, it is

:42:34.:42:34.

of Europe to Wales. The Welsh reform, not to retreat from Europe.

:42:35.:42:37.

of Europe to Wales. The Welsh 20 of things we can reform within

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20 of thilgc we ban reform within Europe, but it is so important to

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20 of thilgc we ban reform within and we are seeing that there is a

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20 of thilgc we ban reform within very big no to retreat. You see the

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Wehs` Govdrnment very big no to retreat. You see the

:42:48.:42:47.

Welsh Government is clear very big no to retreat. You see the

:42:48.:42:48.

position, but what about the Welsh very big no to retreat. You see the

:42:49.:42:49.

electorate? The opinion polls very big no to retreat. You see the

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elactorate? The opanion polls are electorate? The opinion polls are

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upon down about whether people want upon down about vhether people want

:42:53.:42:54.

to be in Europe or upon down about vhether people want

:42:55.:42:55.

to be in Dubope or not. upon down about vhether people want

:42:56.:42:56.

to be in Europe or not. On upon down about vhether people want

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to be in Dubope or not. On the to be in Dubope nr not. On the

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doorstop, the message is getting doorctop, t`e message is getting

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out. Europe is important and so is doorctop, t`e message is getting

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jobs and that is what people doorctop, t`e message is getting

:43:04.:43:05.

understand. Europe is good for jobs. un`erstand. Europe is gnod for jobs.

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150,000 jobs depend on us being in tha

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150,000 jobs depend on us being in the EU in

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150,000 jobs depend on us being in tha EU in Wales and the amount

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the EU in Wales and the amount of moneq

:43:13.:43:12.

the EU in Wales and the amount of money we get

:43:13.:43:13.

the EU in Wales and the amount of moleq we fed from Europd

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the EU in Wales and the amount of money we get from Europe is vital as

:43:14.:43:13.

wehl. money we get from Europe is vital as

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well. That message is getting money we get from Europe is vital as

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there. I think people are un`ebstanding

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there. I think people are undebstanding the danger

:43:19.:43:19.

there. I think people are understanding the danger of the fact

:43:20.:43:20.

there. I think people are that the camera in and Tory view

:43:21.:43:23.

that the bamera hn and Tory view is that we should leave Europe. That is

:43:24.:43:26.

dangerous that we should leave Europe. That is

:43:27.:43:26.

dalgerous and that we should leave Europe. That is

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dangerous and I think they are concerned about that. You must

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dangerous and I think they are across a fair degree of Euro

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scapdicisl across a fair degree of Euro

:43:33.:43:33.

scepticism as well. We scapdicisl as well. e `lready have

:43:34.:43:35.

a UKIP member in Wales and according scapdicisl as well. e `lready have

:43:36.:43:39.

to the opinion polls, it might not remain

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to the opinion polls, it might not reiaan with

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to the opinion polls, it might not reiain with one

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to the opinion polls, it might not remain with one member.

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reiaan with one lember. Not evdryone in Wales is convinced that Europe is

:43:42.:43:43.

in Wales hs convhnced that Europe is a good king. I understand that

:43:44.:43:46.

a good kilg. ulderstand that people are time to get that

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people are dime to get that message out. We have a point at the moment

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out. We h`ve a pnint at t`e moment where there are other parties

:43:50.:43:50.

whare thepe are nt`er p`rties trying to pick up votes from an

:43:51.:43:54.

whare thepe are nt`er p`rties trying anti-political point of view,

:43:55.:43:55.

whare thepe are nt`er p`rties trying anpi-political pnint of view, `nd I

:43:56.:43:56.

whare thepe are nt`er p`rties trying just think we have to keep

:43:57.:43:57.

whare thepe are nt`er p`rties trying that message out and hoping that

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whare thepe are nt`er p`rties trying public will come out and

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whare thepe are nt`er p`rties trying on May the 22nd. The opinion polls

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on May thd "2nd. T`e ophnaon pnlls look good for yourself.

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on May thd "2nd. T`e ophnaon pnlls like both of you will be elected in

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like both of you wall bd elected in the European elections. What do the

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Laboer the European elections. What do the

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La`oer Papty the European elections. What do the

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Labour Party offer that at the European elections. What do the

:44:12.:44:12.

La`oer Papty offer that at the the European elections. What do the

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moient th`t is appealinf to voters? moment that is appealing to voters?

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The bespolse is `ecoming really Tha bespolse is `ecominf really good

:44:16.:44:17.

on the doorstep. We are talking Tha bespolse is `ecominf really good

:44:18.:44:19.

about reform, not retreat from Tha bespolse is `ecominf really good

:44:20.:44:21.

Europe and that is something we Euro`e and dhat hs somethang we want

:44:22.:44:22.

to get across. It Euro`e and dhat hs somethang we want

:44:23.:44:23.

to get acposs. It as Euro`e and dhat hs somethang we want

:44:24.:44:24.

to get across. It is reforming those to get acpocs. It as reforming those

:44:25.:44:26.

things in Europe, it is not perfect but we need to be in Europe, at the

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things in Europe, it is not perfect table and it is vitally important

:44:30.:44:32.

for Wales and we must keep hitting that mess`ge

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for Wales and we must keep hitting that message out there. Derek

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for Wales and we must keep hitting Vaughan is already an

:44:41.:44:41.

for Wales and we must keep hitting Vaqg`an is already an MEP

:44:42.:44:41.

for Wales and we must keep hitting Vaughan is already an MEP in Wales

:44:42.:44:42.

for Wales and we must keep hitting and looks set to keep his seat in

:44:43.:44:44.

for Wales and we must keep hitting the next election. There is such a

:44:45.:44:47.

for Wales and we must keep hitting degree of Euroscepticism here why is

:44:48.:44:48.

that? I think the EU and degree of Euroscepticism here why is

:44:49.:44:51.

that? think the EU and some degree of Euroscepticism here why is

:44:52.:44:52.

that? I think the EU and some of the degree of Euroscepticism here why is

:44:53.:44:52.

politicians have not been very pohidicials have not been very good

:44:53.:44:56.

at publicising the benefits of EU meibership.

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at publicising the benefits of EU membership. We have been doing the

:44:59.:45:00.

job membership. We have been doing the

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jo` as membership. We have been doing the

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job as well as membership. We have been doing the

:45:02.:45:02.

jo` as well as we possiblq membership. We have been doing the

:45:03.:45:02.

job as well as we possibly can. I membership. We have been doing the

:45:03.:45:03.

have spent a long time going membership. We have been doing the

:45:04.:45:06.

Wales, explaining to businesses and trade unions

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Wales, explaining to businesses and trade unionc the benefits of

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Wales, explaining to businesses and trade unions the benefits of Wales,

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trade unionc the benefits of W`les, but to cover all of Wales on your

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but do coteb all of ales on ynur own

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but do coteb all of ales on ynur owl as not easy.

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but do coteb all of ales on ynur own is not easy. We do the best we

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can. Where people do understand the benefits, they are very supportive

:45:17.:45:17.

benefits, t`ey ape very supportive of Europe. This election

:45:18.:45:21.

benefits, t`ey ape very supportive will

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benefits, t`ey ape very supportive wihl give

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benefits, t`ey ape very supportive will give the opportunity to express

:45:22.:45:23.

benefits, t`ey ape very supportive the benefits of being a member of

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benefits, t`ey ape very supportive the EU -- election campaign. We can

:45:26.:45:36.

explain all of this during the campaign. Hopefully we will be able

:45:37.:45:42.

explain all of this during the to make a much more positive case.

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Carwyn Jones touched on many Carwqn Jolec toubhed on many other

:45:47.:45:50.

issues, specifically attacks from tha

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issues, specifically attacks from the Conservative Party `nd somd

:45:55.:45:55.

elements of the right-wing press on elements nf the pight-wing press on

:45:56.:45:58.

the way elements nf the pight-wing press on

:45:59.:45:59.

the gay his Government elements nf the pight-wing press on

:46:00.:46:00.

the way his Government is handling elements nf the pight-wing press on

:46:01.:46:00.

the NHS ald the elements nf the pight-wing press on

:46:01.:46:03.

the NHS and the education sector. Is that damaging

:46:04.:46:04.

the NHS and the education sector. Is that damafing the

:46:05.:46:04.

the NHS and the education sector. Is that damaging the Labour brand? Is

:46:05.:46:05.

the NHS and the education sector. Is it something you come across on the

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the NHS and the education sector. Is doorstep when you

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the NHS and the education sector. Is doorctep when you are campaignhng?

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doorctep vhen you are campaignhng? Not according to the opinion polls

:46:09.:46:10.

doorctep vhen you are campaignhng? you mentioned earlier. For the West

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doorctep vhen you are campaignhng? Minster elections, the Labour Party

:46:17.:46:17.

is doing teby Minster elections, the Labour Party

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is doing very well. It is an attack on the whole of Wales and people

:46:25.:46:28.

is doing very well. It is an attack recognise that. Thank

:46:29.:46:28.

is doing very well. It is an attack recognise t`at. Thank ynu

:46:29.:46:29.

is doing very well. It is an attack recognise that. Thank you to both of

:46:30.:46:30.

you for your time. Derek Vaughan and recognise that. Thank you to both of

:46:31.:46:34.

Jayne Bryant, candidates for recognise that. Thank you to both of

:46:35.:46:39.

upcoming elections. Of course, they sound confident,

:46:40.:46:41.

upcoming elections. nothing is in the bag yet, is

:46:42.:46:47.

upcoming elections. Absolutely. European elections are

:46:48.:46:47.

all about turnout. There Absolutely. European elections are

:46:48.:46:53.

alh about ternout. There are Absolutely. European elections are

:46:54.:46:54.

all about turnout. There are some Laboer

:46:55.:46:54.

all about turnout. There are some La`oer people

:46:55.:46:55.

all about turnout. There are some Labour people who have

:46:56.:46:55.

all about turnout. There are some La`oer people whn `ave been

:46:56.:46:56.

all about turnout. There are some about maybe winning three

:46:57.:46:57.

all about turnout. There are some That really does look an awful

:46:58.:46:59.

stredch. That really does look an awful

:47:00.:46:59.

stpedch. They That really does look an awful

:47:00.:47:01.

stretch. They would be doing very well to

:47:02.:47:02.

stretch. They would be doing very wehl to win

:47:03.:47:02.

stretch. They would be doing very well to win a second seed. There are

:47:03.:47:04.

stretch. They would be doing very only four seat in Wales, so you

:47:05.:47:08.

stretch. They would be doing very three other parties

:47:09.:47:08.

stretch. They would be doing very thpee othdr parties who are

:47:09.:47:09.

stretch. They would be doing very throwing everything they have got at

:47:10.:47:12.

it. UKIP, Conservatives and light Cairq

:47:13.:47:12.

it. UKIP, Conservatives and light Camry will all say confidently we

:47:13.:47:14.

Camry will all s`y confidently we are going to win seats -- played

:47:15.:47:16.

Camry will all s`y confidently we Cumbria. The party will

:47:17.:47:19.

Camry will all s`y confidently we if it is seen to be taking anything

:47:20.:47:23.

if id is reen to be takhng anything for granted in the European

:47:24.:47:26.

if id is reen to be takhng anything elections it could come back to bite

:47:27.:47:28.

tham. elections it could come back to bite

:47:29.:47:28.

them. Remdmber, elections it could come back to bite

:47:29.:47:30.

them. Remember, the elections it could come back to bite

:47:31.:47:30.

them. Remdmber, the European elections it could come back to bite

:47:31.:47:31.

elections was the worst Labour elections it could come back to bite

:47:32.:47:33.

performance in any national elections it could come back to bite

:47:34.:47:37.

in Wales since 1918. They will be taking nothing for granted. No

:47:38.:47:41.

mentaon taking nothing for granted. No

:47:42.:47:42.

mention of immigration. They are not taking nothing for granted. No

:47:43.:47:46.

going on the hard European taking nothing for granted. No

:47:47.:47:49.

are they? They want to taking nothing for granted. No

:47:50.:47:50.

ara dhey? T`ey want to make taking nothing for granted. No

:47:51.:47:50.

are they? They want to make this a taking nothing for granted. No

:47:51.:47:51.

referendum on Westminster. Yes, taking nothing for granted. No

:47:52.:47:57.

that is what suits the Conservatives as well. The Conservatives think

:47:58.:48:01.

that is what suits the Conservatives they may not lose so many voters

:48:02.:48:03.

thay may lod losd so many voters to UKIP on the right, so it suits both

:48:04.:48:06.

thay may lod losd so many voters to Labour and the Conservatives to

:48:07.:48:08.

thay may lod losd so many voters to the narrative as a traditional,

:48:09.:48:11.

ol`-fashioned the narrative as a traditional,

:48:12.:48:11.

old-fashioned Labour /Tory the narrative as a traditional,

:48:12.:48:17.

Julie Lewis has been speaking this Julie Lewis has `een spdacing this

:48:18.:48:18.

afternoon. Let's get Julie Lewis has `een spdacing this

:48:19.:48:19.

aftebnoon, Let's get a flavour of afternoon. Let's get a flavour of

:48:20.:48:20.

what he had to say. afternoon. Let's get a flavour of

:48:21.:48:25.

We gather here today at a critical juncture for our party and our

:48:26.:48:28.

We gather here today at a critical public services. An important time

:48:29.:48:31.

for the ambitious programme public services. An important time

:48:32.:48:32.

community-based reforms we public services. An important time

:48:33.:48:34.

community,based reforms we are public services. An important time

:48:35.:48:34.

embarked upon in our schools and in public services. An important time

:48:35.:48:37.

our hospitals. Reforms that are public services. An important time

:48:38.:48:40.

grounded in the values and ideas public services. An important time

:48:41.:48:43.

a rich history of the labour a rich history od the labour

:48:44.:48:45.

movement here a rich history od the labour

:48:46.:48:45.

movement hebe in a rich history od the labour

:48:46.:48:48.

movement here in Wales. But, changes focuc

:48:49.:48:50.

movement here in Wales. But, changes focus squarely so on delivering

:48:51.:48:53.

movement here in Wales. But, changes 21st centurq public services

:48:54.:48:54.

movement here in Wales. But, changes 21st century public services that

:48:55.:48:54.

21st centurq public services that our communities deserve. In

:48:55.:48:58.

21st centurq public services that education, I am proud

:48:59.:48:59.

21st centurq public services that edqcation, A am proud of

:49:00.:48:59.

21st centurq public services that education, I am proud of the

:49:00.:48:59.

21st centurq public services that programme

:49:00.:48:59.

21st centurq public services that progbamme for

:49:00.:49:00.

21st centurq public services that programme for Government commitment

:49:01.:49:00.

that we have met. We have done what programme for Government commitment

:49:01.:49:04.

we said we would do to programme for Government commitment

:49:05.:49:08.

part of our system gets the papt of our system gets t`e funding

:49:09.:49:10.

that it needs to thrive. We have, papt of our system gets t`e funding

:49:11.:49:13.

despite papt of our system gets t`e funding

:49:14.:49:14.

despate etebythilg, papt of our system gets t`e funding

:49:15.:49:15.

despite everything, protected papt of our system gets t`e funding

:49:16.:49:15.

learners in Welsh schools from the papt of our system gets t`e funding

:49:16.:49:17.

cuts being imposed on Wales papt of our system gets t`e funding

:49:18.:49:20.

cups being amposdd on W`les in papt of our system gets t`e funding

:49:21.:49:20.

cuts being imposed on Wales in the Tory war on community-based

:49:21.:49:22.

cuts being imposed on Wales in the edqcation. Ge

:49:23.:49:23.

cuts being imposed on Wales in the education. We are

:49:24.:49:23.

cuts being imposed on Wales in the edqcation. Ge are deliveranG on our

:49:24.:49:26.

cuts being imposed on Wales in the commitment to increase front line

:49:27.:49:27.

commatment do inbrease front line spending on schools by 1%

:49:28.:49:29.

commatment do inbrease front line spending nn schools by 0% above

:49:30.:49:29.

commatment do inbrease front line spending on schools by 1% above the

:49:30.:49:30.

commatment do inbrease front line Welsh block, and through the 21st

:49:31.:49:31.

commatment do inbrease front line century schools programme

:49:32.:49:32.

commatment do inbrease front line celtery schools programle we

:49:33.:49:32.

commatment do inbrease front line century schools programme we have

:49:33.:49:33.

commatment do inbrease front line put in place the biggest capital

:49:34.:49:37.

put an place the baggest capital investment programme in

:49:38.:49:39.

put an place the baggest capital that our community is have ever

:49:40.:49:40.

put an place the baggest capital seen. Even in times

:49:41.:49:41.

put an place the baggest capital sean. Even in times like

:49:42.:49:43.

put an place the baggest capital Because of times like these. I am

:49:44.:49:48.

also proud of the tough action we Because of times like these. I am

:49:49.:49:50.

have taken Because of times like these. I am

:49:51.:49:51.

have takel do lidt hate takel do lidt standards in the

:49:52.:49:53.

classroom, hate takel do lidt standards in the

:49:54.:49:55.

clascroom, the hate takel do lidt standards in the

:49:56.:49:55.

classroom, the literacy and numeracy classroom, dhe literacy and nuleracy

:49:56.:49:56.

strategy we are in bedding in our classroom, dhe literacy and nuleracy

:49:57.:50:00.

classrooms has not been an easy thing to put together. But it

:50:01.:50:02.

classrooms has not been an easy thing to pud toget`er. But it will

:50:03.:50:03.

classrooms has not been an easy raise staldards

:50:04.:50:03.

classrooms has not been an easy raise standards for every learner

:50:04.:50:05.

classrooms has not been an easy every classroom in every immunity

:50:06.:50:06.

classrooms has not been an easy across Wales. School banding has

:50:07.:50:11.

classrooms has not been an easy been easy. But, last

:50:12.:50:14.

classrooms has not been an easy bean easy, But, last year,

:50:15.:50:15.

classrooms has not been an easy been easy. But, last year, the

:50:16.:50:15.

classrooms has not been an easy additional support offered

:50:16.:50:16.

classrooms has not been an easy schools in band five

:50:17.:50:18.

classrooms has not been an easy schools il band five helped

:50:19.:50:19.

classrooms has not been an easy schools in band five helped increase

:50:20.:50:19.

tha schools in band five helped increase

:50:20.:50:19.

the numbers of young people in those schools in band five helped increase

:50:20.:50:23.

schools getting five schools in band five helped increase

:50:24.:50:26.

schools gdtding five good schools in band five helped increase

:50:27.:50:27.

over 10%. That means that over 10%. T`at mdans th`t last year

:50:28.:50:36.

alone 408 children had their life chances lifted as a direct result of

:50:37.:50:43.

alone 408 children had their life banding. Next time someone claims in

:50:44.:50:45.

alone 408 children had their life your hearing that banding does not

:50:46.:50:48.

yoqr hearing that banding does not work, you remind them of that. Last

:50:49.:50:51.

wopk, you remind t`em of that. Last year alone, there were 408 good

:50:52.:50:54.

wopk, you remind t`em of that. Last reasons to ctick

:50:55.:50:55.

wopk, you remind t`em of that. Last reasons to stick to our

:50:56.:50:56.

wopk, you remind t`em of that. Last reasons to ctick to our guns on

:50:57.:50:56.

reasons to stick to our guns on school bandang.

:50:57.:51:00.

reasons to stick to our guns on school banding. I am also proud of

:51:01.:51:01.

school baldang. H am also proud of the stories I have heard around

:51:02.:51:02.

school baldang. H am also proud of conference this week, of how our

:51:03.:51:04.

colference dhis veek, of `ow our doubling of the pupil deprivation

:51:05.:51:07.

branch of over ?900 doubling of the pupil deprivation

:51:08.:51:10.

branch of ofer ?800 for every learner is raising attainment in

:51:11.:51:11.

branch of ofer ?800 for every some of the most deprived amenities

:51:12.:51:13.

branch of ofer ?800 for every in Wales. I am also deeply proud

:51:14.:51:16.

branch of ofer ?800 for every that, when the Tories cut

:51:17.:51:19.

that, when dhe Tnraes cut the education on maintenance allowance

:51:20.:51:20.

education on mailtenance allowance and let tuition fees skyrocket to

:51:21.:51:22.

?9(0 0, and let tuition fees skyrocket to

:51:23.:51:24.

?9,000, we did none of those things. and let tuition fees skyrocket to

:51:25.:51:26.

We chose another and let tuition fees skyrocket to

:51:27.:51:28.

We c`ose another path. @ path and let tuition fees skyrocket to

:51:29.:51:29.

We chose another path. A path in line with our values of social

:51:30.:51:33.

We chose another path. A path in justice. It was tough but we found

:51:34.:51:35.

the funding to keep supporting young justice. It was tough but we found

:51:36.:51:37.

people through the VMA, justice. It was tough but we found

:51:38.:51:38.

people throegh the VMA, and justice. It was tough but we found

:51:39.:51:39.

people through the VMA, and give justice. It was tough but we found

:51:40.:51:39.

young people in Wales the justice. It was tough but we found

:51:40.:51:40.

young people in Vales the chanbe young people in Wales the chance to

:51:41.:51:43.

go to university, freed from the crippling fear of debt now weighing

:51:44.:51:46.

go to university, freed from the down and dangerously destabilising

:51:47.:51:48.

go to university, freed from the the Tory /LibDem student finance

:51:49.:51:52.

system in England. The policies we system in England. The policies we

:51:53.:51:58.

have been delivering in Welsh edqcation

:51:59.:51:58.

have been delivering in Welsh education have not been manufactured

:51:59.:52:00.

have been delivering in Welsh for the sake of an election designed

:52:01.:52:03.

have been delivering in Welsh for a privileged few. They are built

:52:04.:52:05.

fop a pritileged few. Theq are built and put together for one group, just

:52:06.:52:10.

fop a pritileged few. Theq are built one vested interest. The learner.

:52:11.:52:13.

An`, one vested interest. The learner.

:52:14.:52:13.

And, whatever warped truths the An`, whatever wapped trut`s thd

:52:14.:52:15.

Tories and their Fleet An`, whatever wapped trut`s thd

:52:16.:52:17.

friends like to come just, we An`, whatever wapped trut`s thd

:52:18.:52:18.

friends like to bome just, we `re friends like to bome jurt, we `re

:52:19.:52:18.

making progress in our friends like to bome jurt, we `re

:52:19.:52:20.

journey. The number of friends like to bome jurt, we `re

:52:21.:52:23.

joqrney. The num`er of young journey. The number of young people

:52:24.:52:24.

geptang journey. The number of young people

:52:25.:52:24.

getting five good GCSEs is at an journey. The number of young people

:52:25.:52:28.

all-time high, and the journey. The number of young people

:52:29.:52:30.

all-dime high, ald the historic all-time high, and the historic gap

:52:31.:52:30.

wiph all-time high, and the historic gap

:52:31.:52:31.

with England in achievement all-time high, and the historic gap

:52:32.:52:36.

closing fast. Keep watching. Yet, I cannot stand here and say I am happy

:52:37.:52:38.

wiph cannot stand here and say I am happy

:52:39.:52:40.

with everything that we have now. I am proud, but

:52:41.:52:43.

with everything that we have now. I am pboud, bet I

:52:44.:52:44.

am proud, bet I vill never be satisfied.

:52:45.:52:45.

am proud, bet I vill never be sapisfied, A

:52:46.:52:45.

am proud, bet I vill never be satisfied. I am not content with

:52:46.:52:47.

things simply being better than they satisfied. I am not content with

:52:48.:52:49.

were before. We are in a global race were befope. e `re in ` global race

:52:50.:52:52.

for excellence. We must go were befope. e `re in ` global race

:52:53.:52:57.

and faster in realising our ambidions

:52:58.:52:58.

and faster in realising our ambitions for our young people. And

:52:59.:53:00.

and faster in realising our that is precisely why we are

:53:01.:53:01.

designing a new curriculum for designing a new burriculum for

:53:02.:53:04.

Wales, developing a new regulator designing a new burriculum for

:53:05.:53:06.

for our qualifications, designing a new burriculum for

:53:07.:53:11.

fop our qualificataons, a designing a new burriculum for

:53:12.:53:12.

for our qualifications, a new designing a new burriculum for

:53:13.:53:15.

of GCSEs and strengthening the Welsh baccalaureate. Our Welsh Labour

:53:16.:53:16.

of GCSEs and strengthening the Welsh craed is

:53:17.:53:17.

of GCSEs and strengthening the Welsh creed is built on a fundamental

:53:18.:53:19.

of GCSEs and strengthening the Welsh belief shared by every member

:53:20.:53:20.

of GCSEs and strengthening the Welsh this hall today. Namely that the

:53:21.:53:24.

true this hall today. Namely that the

:53:25.:53:24.

trqe health this hall today. Namely that the

:53:25.:53:24.

true health of any society is this hall today. Namely that the

:53:25.:53:26.

measured by the strength, measured `y the rtrength, the

:53:27.:53:28.

opportunity, and the measured `y the rtrength, the

:53:29.:53:29.

that we offer our measured `y the rtrength, the

:53:30.:53:31.

that we odfer oup most vulnerable measured `y the rtrength, the

:53:32.:53:35.

citizens. That is why I measured `y the rtrength, the

:53:36.:53:36.

cipirens. T`at is why I am measured `y the rtrength, the

:53:37.:53:36.

citizens. That is why I am proud measured `y the rtrength, the

:53:37.:53:37.

that we ape measured `y the rtrength, the

:53:38.:53:37.

that we are developing the new ?20 that we ape developing the new ?20

:53:38.:53:39.

million schools challenge programme, mihlaon sbhools bhallenfe programme,

:53:40.:53:44.

to raise attainment in 40 of our lowect

:53:45.:53:45.

to raise attainment in 40 of our lowest performing schools in our

:53:46.:53:46.

to raise attainment in 40 of our amenities. That is because the life

:53:47.:53:50.

to raise attainment in 40 of our chances of kids in those schools

:53:51.:53:54.

to raise attainment in 40 of our should not be driven down by

:53:55.:53:55.

to raise attainment in 40 of our deprivation or by any lack of

:53:56.:53:57.

ambidion. deprivation or by any lack of

:53:58.:53:57.

ambition. They will have the deprivation or by any lack of

:53:58.:54:07.

and Welsh Labour will deliver it. That was the

:54:08.:54:09.

and Welsh Labour will deliver it. addressing conference earlier. Let's

:54:10.:54:12.

go back outside the conference hall now, where the Shadow

:54:13.:54:13.

go back outside the conference hall Secretary Owen Smith join us. This

:54:14.:54:17.

so-called Secretary Owen Smith join us. This

:54:18.:54:17.

so)called war Secretary Owen Smith join us. This

:54:18.:54:18.

so-called war on Secretary Owen Smith join us. This

:54:19.:54:20.

so)called war on Wales by Secretary Owen Smith join us. This

:54:21.:54:21.

party, Secretary Owen Smith join us. This

:54:22.:54:21.

paptq, you `ave Secretary Owen Smith join us. This

:54:22.:54:22.

party, you have launched your Secretary Owen Smith join us. This

:54:23.:54:22.

counter defence. They have really Secretary Owen Smith join us. This

:54:23.:54:28.

got you rattled, haven't they? No, Secretary Owen Smith join us. This

:54:29.:54:33.

it is simply time for us to point Secretary Owen Smith join us. This

:54:34.:54:37.

out after they attacked us on childcare costs and on

:54:38.:54:38.

out after they attacked us on childcare costs `nd on health

:54:39.:54:39.

out after they attacked us on childcare costs and on health care

:54:40.:54:39.

childcare costs `nd on health bare and on student numbers and on

:54:40.:54:40.

and on student ntmbers `nd on council tax, and I'm told frankly

:54:41.:54:48.

some half-truths about performers in Wahec

:54:49.:54:48.

some half-truths about performers in Wales on those various measures, it

:54:49.:54:50.

Wahec on those v`raous leasures, it was time we put the record straight,

:54:51.:54:52.

was dime ve put the record straight, and I think the Welsh people deserve

:54:53.:54:55.

and I thilk the Velsh pdople ddserve it. That is what you have seen this

:54:56.:54:57.

and I thilk the Velsh pdople ddserve weekend. It is a recognition of the

:54:58.:54:59.

fact that t`e weekend. It is a recognition of the

:55:00.:55:00.

fact that the Tory party weekend. It is a recognition of the

:55:01.:55:01.

fact that t`e Topy party have weekend. It is a recognition of the

:55:02.:55:02.

to start the general election weekend. It is a recognition of the

:55:03.:55:03.

to sdart the gendral election 04 to start the general election 14

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mont`s to start the general election 14

:55:05.:55:04.

months out, and have chosen Wales to start the general election 14

:55:05.:55:06.

a place to launch that to start the general election 14

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election, and are choosing to attack election, and are chooshng to `ttack

:55:09.:55:10.

Wales to score political points in election, and are chooshng to `ttack

:55:11.:55:12.

that general election, and it is a election, and are chooshng to `ttack

:55:13.:55:14.

rotten thing to election, and are chooshng to `ttack

:55:15.:55:15.

ropten thhng to do election, and are chooshng to `ttack

:55:16.:55:15.

rotten thing to do and it needs ropten thhng to do and ht needr to

:55:16.:55:18.

be exposed as such. It is high time,

:55:19.:55:19.

be exposed as such. It is high tiie, somd gould

:55:20.:55:19.

be exposed as such. It is high time, some would say, because you

:55:20.:55:20.

be exposed as such. It is high at primaries as questions on a

:55:21.:55:23.

be exposed as such. It is high weakly basis and t`ey

:55:24.:55:24.

be exposed as such. It is high weekly basis and they have been

:55:25.:55:24.

weakly baric and t`ey h`ve been doing this for months, if not years

:55:25.:55:26.

-- prime ministers questions. Yes, doing this for months, if not years

:55:27.:55:28.

and we doing this for months, if not years

:55:29.:55:28.

an` we hate doing this for months, if not years

:55:29.:55:29.

and we have been pushing back, maybe and ge hate been pushinf back, maybe

:55:30.:55:33.

the media has not been following as closely. Or maybe it

:55:34.:55:34.

the media has not been following as closely. Nr maybd at is

:55:35.:55:34.

closely. Or maybe it is the concerted way we have been

:55:35.:55:37.

closely. Or maybe it is the this recently, but

:55:38.:55:37.

closely. Or maybe it is the this receltly, btt it

:55:38.:55:38.

closely. Or maybe it is the this recently, but it is on the

:55:39.:55:39.

healdh service theq this recently, but it is on the

:55:40.:55:40.

health service they have been health servace theq havd been

:55:41.:55:40.

chipping away and seeking to score health servace theq havd been

:55:41.:55:42.

points. Il dhe health servace theq havd been

:55:43.:55:44.

points. In the last few weeks they have significantly stepped it

:55:45.:55:45.

points. In the last few weeks they hate signhfacantly stepped it tp

:55:46.:55:46.

points. In the last few weeks they have significantly stepped it up and

:55:47.:55:47.

hate signhfacantly stepped it tp and launched this campaign, mentioning

:55:48.:55:48.

hate signhfacantly stepped it tp and childcare costs in Wales, which they

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hate signhfacantly stepped it tp and falsely claimed to be higher in

:55:50.:55:52.

hate signhfacantly stepped it tp and Wales than in England. It is not

:55:53.:55:54.

hate signhfacantly stepped it tp and true. They talked about a collapse

:55:55.:55:56.

hate signhfacantly stepped it tp and in student numbers in Wales, where

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is the reality is just 250 fewer in student numbers in Wales, where

:55:58.:56:01.

students in students hn Wales, whereas 25,000

:56:02.:56:04.

fewer students hn Wales, whereas 25,000

:56:05.:56:04.

feweb applications students hn Wales, whereas 25,000

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fewer applications in England. I students hn Wales, whereas 25,000

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think the time had come for us students hn Wales, whereas 25,000

:56:07.:56:10.

call out what is straightforwardly a partq

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call out what is straightforwardly a party political point scoring

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exarcise. party political point scoring

:56:12.:56:14.

exercise. On party political point scoring

:56:15.:56:14.

have a coalition Government in party political point scoring

:56:15.:56:19.

Westminster offering Wales more party political point scoring

:56:20.:56:20.

power, and party political point scoring

:56:21.:56:21.

poweb, and `ushing for party political point scoring

:56:22.:56:23.

power, and pushing for more income party political point scoring

:56:24.:56:26.

tax powers for Wales. And you have got a First

:56:27.:56:28.

got a irst Minister saxing no thank you, and you are saying it is a

:56:29.:56:31.

yoq, and xoe are saying it is ` trap. Why not embrace the power

:56:32.:56:33.

yoq, and xoe are saying it is ` are offering? I think I

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ara offering? I thank I wall bd saying something interesting about

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ara offering? I thank I wall bd income tax tomorrow,

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ara offering? I thank I wall bd income tax tomorpow, so

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ara offering? I thank I wall bd income tax tomorrow, so you will

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ara offering? I thank I wall bd have two

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ara offering? I thank I wall bd any judgements. But let's be clear

:56:44.:56:44.

any budgements. @ut let's be clear about what the Tories want.

:56:45.:56:48.

any budgements. @ut let's be clear interested in setting

:56:49.:56:49.

any budgements. @ut let's be clear interested an setting one

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any budgements. @ut let's be clear interested in setting one part

:56:50.:56:50.

any budgements. @ut let's be clear Britain against another. That is the

:56:51.:56:51.

any budgements. @ut let's be clear interest they have in income

:56:52.:56:54.

any budgements. @ut let's be clear inpebest they hate in income tax.

:56:55.:56:55.

any budgements. @ut let's be clear interest they have in income tax. It

:56:56.:56:55.

inpebest they hate in income tax. It is twofold. They want to be to say

:56:56.:56:58.

inpebest they hate in income tax. It to Wales, we have given you the

:56:59.:57:00.

inpebest they hate in income tax. It power, so raise the money yourself.

:57:01.:57:02.

If you walt power, so raise the money yourself.

:57:03.:57:04.

If you want to spend more money on schools, raise the money

:57:05.:57:06.

If you want to spend more money on Thay are `sking

:57:07.:57:06.

If you want to spend more money on They are asking the people with the

:57:07.:57:07.

Thay are `sking the people with the shallowest pockets to put their

:57:08.:57:09.

hands shallowest pockets to put their

:57:10.:57:09.

haldc into them. T`at shallowest pockets to put their

:57:10.:57:10.

hands into them. That is haldc into dhem. T`at is an unfair

:57:11.:57:11.

way to go about things. The second haldc into dhem. T`at is an unfair

:57:12.:57:13.

thing they are interested in haldc into dhem. T`at is an unfair

:57:14.:57:15.

thing they are ilterested in doing thing they are interested in doing

:57:16.:57:15.

is to set one part of Britain thing they are interested in doing

:57:16.:57:17.

against another. Tax competition against alodher. Tax competition

:57:18.:57:19.

between England against alodher. Tax competition

:57:20.:57:19.

bepween England `nd ales, against alodher. Tax competition

:57:20.:57:21.

between England and Wales, it will against alodher. Tax competition

:57:22.:57:22.

undercut one against alodher. Tax competition

:57:23.:57:22.

undebcut nne part against alodher. Tax competition

:57:23.:57:23.

undercut one part of Britain from undebcut nne part of Britain from

:57:24.:57:24.

another, and we in Labour do not undebcut nne part of Britain from

:57:25.:57:26.

begin to believe that people should begin to `elieve t`at pdople should

:57:27.:57:28.

be set against one another. It is begin to `elieve t`at pdople should

:57:29.:57:35.

not divide and rule, which begin to `elieve t`at pdople should

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Tory way. What would you say about begin to `elieve t`at pdople should

:57:41.:57:45.

income tax tomorrow? It will be very exciting, you will have

:57:46.:57:47.

income tax tomorrow? It will be very see. In terms of

:57:48.:57:52.

income tax tomorrow? It will be very sea. In terms of policy

:57:53.:57:52.

see. In terms of policy announcements, we had one on rate

:57:53.:57:54.

relief today will stop rehief todaq will stop `re those

:57:55.:57:57.

really going to be a good sale on rehief todaq will stop `re those

:57:58.:58:04.

the doorstep? Lots of people in Wahec

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the doorstep? Lots of people in Wales think it is important that we

:58:05.:58:06.

Walec thilk it is amportant th`t we end what we have called the tug

:58:07.:58:08.

en` ghat ve have called t`e tuf of war between Westminster

:58:09.:58:09.

en` ghat ve have called t`e tuf of wap between Westminster and

:58:10.:58:10.

war between Westminster and Wales. It is possibly not the most exciting

:58:11.:58:12.

war between Westminster and Wales. anlouncemend to

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war between Westminster and Wales. announcement to talk about, reserve

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war between Westminster and Wales. versus inderred

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war between Westminster and Wales. versus inferred powers, although

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war between Westminster and Wales. versus inderred powers, although the

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verses indebred powers, althoufh the BBC likes to talk about these

:58:22.:58:23.

constitutional matters, but it is an colstitutional m`tters, but it is an

:58:24.:58:25.

important exercise to show that we colstitutional m`tters, but it is an

:58:26.:58:29.

will have a much clearer settlement between England and Wales, and

:58:30.:58:30.

will have a much clearer settlement we need a greater symmetry between

:58:31.:58:34.

will have a much clearer settlement the settlement for Wales and

:58:35.:58:35.

will have a much clearer settlement Scotland so that we have got more

:58:36.:58:38.

stabality Scotland so that we have got more

:58:39.:58:39.

stability in the constitutional septlement.

:58:40.:58:39.

stability in the constitutional settlement. From that

:58:40.:58:41.

stability in the constitutional it is

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stability in the constitutional it ic impnrdant.

:58:42.:58:42.

stability in the constitutional it is important. It is so important

:58:43.:58:43.

that we are showing that, not only that we ape showing that, not nnly

:58:44.:58:47.

do we have continued faith in devolution,

:58:48.:58:48.

do we have continued faith in detolutiol, we

:58:49.:58:50.

do we have continued faith in the ability of the Welsh Government

:58:51.:58:52.

tha ability of the Welsh Government to deliver for the people of Wales,

:58:53.:58:54.

tha ability of the Welsh Government and that is reflecting the public's

:58:55.:58:57.

tha ability of the Welsh Government growing faith in the Welsh

:58:58.:58:57.

Govebnment. growing faith in the Welsh

:58:58.:58:58.

Government. Thank you for joining growing faith in the Welsh

:58:59.:59:00.

A quick word before we dnd, reserved A quick word before we end, reserved

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powebs A quick word before we end, reserved

:59:04.:59:03.

powers - should people A quick word before we end, reserved

:59:04.:59:04.

powebs - should people get A quick word before we end, reserved

:59:05.:59:05.

powers - should people get excited? powebs - rhould people fet excited?

:59:06.:59:07.

It is an important change. It will powebs - rhould people fet excited?

:59:08.:59:10.

not powebs - rhould people fet excited?

:59:11.:59:10.

nop excite powebs - rhould people fet excited?

:59:11.:59:11.

not excite people on the doorstep, bup

:59:12.:59:12.

not excite people on the doorstep, but it is

:59:13.:59:12.

not excite people on the doorstep, but at is one

:59:13.:59:13.

not excite people on the doorstep, but it is one of the things Labour

:59:14.:59:14.

not excite people on the doorstep, can agree on on devolution. There

:59:15.:59:15.

ara can agree on on devolution. There

:59:16.:59:16.

are disagreements ara disagpeements and tensions there

:59:17.:59:20.

still, but I am interested to know the timing of that bill. Will it

:59:21.:59:23.

still, but I am interested to know in the first year of a Labour

:59:24.:59:25.

in t`e fipsd yeap of a Labour Government, and would be

:59:26.:59:27.

in t`e fipsd yeap of a Labour change the election system?

:59:28.:59:30.

in t`e fipsd yeap of a Labour change thd election system? So,

:59:31.:59:32.

change the election system? So, there are some

:59:33.:59:34.

change the election system? So, thare are some ilteresting things

:59:35.:59:34.

change the election system? So, there are some interesting things to

:59:35.:59:35.

there are some ilteresting things to talk around that particular issue.

:59:36.:59:38.

there are some ilteresting things to Which means we get a fourth

:59:39.:59:40.

there are some ilteresting things to Government of Wales Bill coming up,

:59:41.:59:42.

there are some ilteresting things to which just shows how messy the

:59:43.:59:44.

there are some ilteresting things to initial sdttlemelt

:59:45.:59:45.

there are some ilteresting things to initial settlement was perhaps?

:59:46.:59:47.

Devolution has always been initial settlement was perhaps?

:59:48.:59:51.

compromises within the party. initial settlement was perhaps?

:59:52.:59:53.

is why they have had to change initial settlement was perhaps?

:59:54.:59:55.

measure over the years to initial settlement was perhaps?

:59:56.:59:56.

accommodate differences initial settlement was perhaps?

:59:57.:00:00.

I suspect the fourth bill will be one that can last. In terms of the

:00:01.:00:05.

tiiings, one that can last. In terms of the

:00:06.:00:05.

timings, you don't know? No, one that can last. In terms of the

:00:06.:00:09.

idea. The timing of the bill, it is idaa. he taming of the ball, ht is

:00:10.:00:12.

a promise it will be sometime in the idaa. he taming of the ball, ht is

:00:13.:00:15.

next Parliament, I suspect there may idaa. he taming of the ball, ht is

:00:16.:00:17.

be some pressure within the party to idaa. he taming of the ball, ht is

:00:18.:00:18.

do it early. idaa. he taming of the ball, ht is

:00:19.:00:20.

do id early. You idaa. he taming of the ball, ht is

:00:21.:00:21.

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