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Fred Dibnah is on the final stage of his grand tour of Britain's industrial past.

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He's in the mountains of Snowdonia in North Wales with his steersman Alf Molyneaux

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and his sons Jack and Roger.

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They're on their way to see a Victorian workshop,

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the kind of place where an engine like Fred's would have been built.

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To get there, they have to cross the Llanberis Pass in Snowdonia.

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It's a big test for the engine, but it's performing well.

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After a hard climb, they've reach the top of the pass, but they've used a lot of water.

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It's time to fill the tanks. But up in the mountains, fire hydrants are hard to come by.

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The only place they can get water is from a tap in the cafe up here,

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but even then, there's still a problem.

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We haven't got a hose pipe long enough.

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Then the taps...you have to keep your thumb on them all the time.

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Water must be desperate on top of this mountain.

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With no hose pipe, they've got to use buckets,

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and anything else they can get to get the water from the cafe.

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And that means a lot of buckets to fill a 160 gallon tank.

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How far off top is it?

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We're nearly there now...

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It's full!

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Here y'are, Rog.

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-Is it in gear?

-Yeah.

-Wait a minute then. Hang on, hang on.

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Looks like it's going to rain, doesn't it?

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-Mind that Land Rover.

-Eh?

-I've driven it on my own now.

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Yeah, I'm just looking at how you've bashed me engine about.

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Anyway...

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We'd better put a lemon in because it's not...

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With the tank full, its time to get dinner ready.

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And they're going to cook it in the old traction engine men's way, while Fred keeps the fans happy.

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I-E?

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We've more potatoes than we've tin foil for.

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Wrap that because we've more potatoes than we've tin foil.

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Sorry about the oily finger marks, you know, make it more authentic.

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You can do baked beans on the cylinder block, uh... spaghetti rings on the cylinder block,

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eggs and bacon on the shovel, roast lamb, spare ribs.

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I've never tried toast but we could.

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Alf's early problems with steering the engine are long gone

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and now, after nearly three months on the road he's a very proficient steersman.

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Stood up there in the sky, driving that engine, steering it anyway,

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it was just such a wonderful experience.

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I'd have never got that experience without Fred.

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Never.

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Is the pub open?

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As ever, it's been hot, thirsty work

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driving down the pass and Fred's in need of some liquid refreshment.

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-You burned it!

-Eh?

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You'd think, what time are the licensing hours in Wales, you know?

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I thought they were any time now.

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Yeah, well some people, they do that well at the weekend,

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they won't bother opening during the week.

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-If I had glasses on, I'd be able to tell the time.

-14 minutes past one.

-Right, 14 minutes past one.

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-Well, we may as well press on, you know.

-Right, we're going.

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-I'm ready.

-Are you all right?

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Is the break off on't trailer, Jack? Run it up here, we can open it up.

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Now that the engine has been running,

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it will do 15 mph with ease.

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If it's in top gear, it goes very fast.

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You should never try and change gear on a hill.

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You read horrific stories about these super-duper men

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in the old days being able to change gear on the run.

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I don't think I fancy trying that.

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Maybe on the level it's not so bad but on any hills, it's a bit fatal.

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Slate has been quarried from these mountains for over 1,800 years.

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But it was with the coming of the Industrial Revolution that the Welsh slate industry really took off.

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Fred and his team are on their way to the Welsh Slate Museum down at the bottom of the pass,

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but before they get there, those potatoes need looking at.

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Try the...

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Is it hot?

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Let's have a feel.

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That's done that, it feels... Feels like it's done.

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They feel, uh, good.

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-Get all the carbon off it and it'll be all right.

-It's too hot.

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- Want a knife and fork? - A set of teeth would be all right!

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-< Any pubs around here?

-There was one up the road but it were shut.

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- There you go. - I don't need that.

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- Do you want some salt and a plate? - A fork would be better.

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-They're good inside.

-Eh?

-Good inside.

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Not bad, actually.

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That'll do till teatime, after they've been to the Slate Museum.

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North Wales has been mined for both coal and copper,

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but really, it's the slate industry that dominates the region.

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This is the Slate Museum at Llanberis.

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And it's based in the workshops of the old Dinorwig quarry,

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and in my opinion, it's the finest Victorian workshop in the whole of Great Britain.

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These workshops catered for all the maintenance work of the quarry,

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which at its height employed over 3,000 men.

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All the power came from this huge water wheel, built by the De Winton company in Caernarfon.

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And the whole site was so big, it had its own railway.

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Last time Fred came here, he had a go at dressing the slate,

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but on this trip, it's the workshops he's interested in.

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I've been here before, there's all sorts of interesting stuff.

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How's that for a lathe?

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-Oh, I bet you can do some on that.

-It's a fair 'un.

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All the machinery in this mechanic shop

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is driven by this line shaft which is an eighth of a mile long,

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and all driven from the water wheel at the other end.

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It's the type of workshop that my traction engine would be manufactured in.

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Look at the size of that one.

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That's for turning wheels, it's like a wheel lathe, you know the ones in the railway workshop?

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-Yeah.

-That's the same thing but it'll only do one side at once.

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Really, it would be wonderful to be let loose in here with about

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60 tonne of iron plates of different thicknesses,

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and about 50 tonne of coke,

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a few 45 gallon drums full of oil,

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and there'd be no end to what you could make in a workshop like this,

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cos there's a machine tool of every description that you could ever wish to have.

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Yeah, it's a pity it's a bit too big for our shed!

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-Yeah.

-Well, most of the stuff in here is.

-Mmm.

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Yeah. Blooming heck! Look at that, even in the olden days, no smoking.

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You'd've thought they'd all be going with their pipes.

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When you think about it, in 1870s, it would've been like bedlam.

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them forges in there would all be roaring away from dawn till dusk,

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sharpening all the chisels and all the tools and the drills for them thousands of men up the mountain.

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Here look at this, the shaper, it's a double-ended 'un, isn't it?

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You can do owt you want with this.

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What would you make for the engine on this machine?

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On our one, same thing at home, we've made the valve chest covers.

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When we were doing the boiler, we had to make that piece

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with a slant on it, we planed the slant on it with the shaper.

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Made about 1870 or something like that.

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A squirt or two of oil on that and put the belt back on which is not here no more, and it'll be away.

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At it's height, Wales was producing nearly

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500,000 tonnes of slate a year, four fifths of all British slate.

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But this level of production came at a price.

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Slate quarrying was a very dangerous occupation.

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In one quarry alone,

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363 men were killed in accidents in just 150 years.

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Many thousands more were injured.

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Dinorwig Quarry closed in 1969,

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but some of the workers still live around Llanberis

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and when Fred and Alf were down at the local pub, they met two of them.

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-Hello, gents.

-How do you do?

-How are you?

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-Aye.

-I saw you steaming down this morning. Where were you going?

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We went to the museum workshop you know which is er, which is er...

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-How did you find it? Lovely.

-Yeah. That's where I served my time.

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I started in 1953 when the quarry was, you know, going...

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There must've been a lot of opportunity for pitting and mending things.

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Yes, I remember blacksmiths, six of them working flat out. It's nice to see who's still there.

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Yeah, the bloody fires would hardly go out would they?

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A true story about chaps from Caernarfon working in the quarry.

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When somebody would come looking for a job, they had to knock on the door

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of the manager's office and when he said, "Come in", they had to take their caps off.

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-Oh, yes.

-To show respect for the manager.

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Well, this chap from Caernarfon came in to look for a job,

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he knocked at the door and walked in with his cap still on his head.

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He said, "Do you know what you're supposed do when you walk into the manager's office?

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"Take your cap off".

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"I've come in here for a job, not a haircut" he says!

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That's a good 'un, innit?

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Yeah, the workshop's summat innit? You could really make a locomotive in there.

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Oh, absolutely.

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They've got their own foundry, their own millers and shapers and everything you could want.

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I never knew anything about foundry work.

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This chap came from Scotland and he was a foundryman at Colesbridge.

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He showed me all the ropes about casting brass. I was lucky, that was the first day.

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That's the best way. We've discussed this on this trip, about learning out of books and things like that.

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-You can't.

-You can get a book written by an academic who's never done anything in his bloody life.

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I mean OK, he's a clever bloke, he can write it all down.

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But it doesn't really give you the final bit of how to do it.

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Like having an old man stood at the side of you saying, "You're making a bugger of that"

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is the best way to learn.

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Like making the boiler on my traction engine,

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I were very fortunate cos there were a lot of old men who were left over from Horwich Loco Works.

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And they were all... knew how to work, smoking theirselves to death and all that like.

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I'm glad I met them or we'd be in dire straights.

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Unfortunately, they're all leaving us. There's no apprenticeships today.

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They're having a rethink now.

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-Are they? Yeah.

-I was in Birmingham University t'other day getting an honorary degree, and the chancellor,

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and the vice chancellor and they're all sat there in three gold braid and I've got a funny hat on.

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I saw that in the picture, yeah.

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They were all Chinamen!

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And seven-eighths of them were girls as well!

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All with a degree in engineering. So what's going to happen to us?

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We'll be shopkeepers and tourist attractions in a bit.

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-Yeah, that's it.

-It's getting that road.

-It's funny how we're getting old with all these memories.

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They've been on the road now for nearly three months. Alf's thoughts are turning to home.

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Well, it'll be nice to get home and see how the missus is coping.

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It wasn't... It wasn't work, it was an enjoyable holiday,

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and a one-off lifetime experience.

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Traction engines are... They are, they're just such amazing machines.

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A lovely sight.

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You've got to take your hat off to the people who keep them going, keep them on the road.

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On the way home, they're passing one of the greatest Victorian wonders of Britain's waterways.

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On our way back to Bolton, we're going to stop off at the world's first boat lift.

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The Anderton Boat Lift was built in 1875

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and taken out of use in 1983.

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Then it was extensively restored,

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then in 2002, reopened to the public.

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The boatlift is a black and white Victorian iron masterpiece with a chequered history.

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It was built as an alternative to a series of locks,

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to bridge the 51 foot height difference between canal and river.

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The initial plan to build a flight of locks was abandoned due to a lack of space

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and the amount of water that would have been lost from the canal into the river.

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The lift was built to solve the expensive problem of getting goods

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from the River Weaver navigation, up to the Trent and Mersey canal.

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The goods mainly were pottery from Staffordshire, and salt from Cheshire going back the other way.

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Changes in the design took it over budget by as much as £50,000.

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Really, I think they did quite well getting it up in 30 months.

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I'm now going off to see Tim and Harry who are going to give me a ride on the thing.

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-Aye. Good afternoon, Tim.

-Hi. How you doing, Fred?

-All right, mate.

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-Nice to see you.

-Are you going to give me a ride?

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-Yes, if you'd like to come aboard The Storyteller, we'll set sail.

-Aye.

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Well, here it is, Anderton Boat Lift.

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Yeah.

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The lift has two caissons. Each one can accommodate two narrowboats.

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What we're doing at the moment is in the aqueduct which was built in 1875.

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When we were doing the refurbishment,

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we did a lot of calculations to work out how strong these girders were.

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-Victorian engineers were good but not quite that good.

-I know that.

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Generally, they sometimes overdid it, and sometimes didn't overdo it.

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We've had to add safety features like the buffer, just in case anybody were to...

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In case you were a bit over enthusiastic.

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We've seen from the photographs how they built this 1908 structure.

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They had small derrick cranes.

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-Yeah, oh, built of stick, yeah, yeah.

-Steam-driven ones on trestles.

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Any bridge building were quite fantastic really, how they did it.

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-The amount of men that died.

-That's right.

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There were generally five or six on any project.

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The large A-frames and upper gear deck were added to the structure

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when the lift was converted to electric in 1908

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after corrosion damaged the original hydraulic mechanism beyond repair.

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The lift was sympathetically restored to hydraulic operation

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in 2002 after an extensive £7 million overhaul.

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They took the main A-frames off as one piece, like giant Meccano really.

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-They actually took the whole thing down?

-Yes.

-And then re-erected it?

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Re-erected it about a year later once everything had been refurbished.

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When the caissons are full of water, how heavy is it?

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Well, a caisson full of water weighs 250 tonnes.

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Both caissons are balanced at the moment and all we do is transfer the oil from one piston to another.

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-Here we are.

-River level.

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So, we're all right now. We can sail away to Liverpool.

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It's been a long trip, but the end is now in sight.

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'Me and Fred work well together.

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'Fred's very easy to get on with.

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'He'd all this hanging over him, the terminal illness

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'but he insisted on keeping going, he intended keeping going.

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'He were determined he'd get round to as many people as possible.

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'He's given as much and he's getting as much back.

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'If you go past the school, the kids run to the railways, teachers and all, they were just as bad.

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'It's just a wonderful feeling when you're on that engine and everybody's waving to you.

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'Every time we stopped,

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'people would descend on us,

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'the joy on their faces, all the snapping they did all over the place.

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'They just loved Fred.

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'It was just a fantastic opportunity to get round to places where I would never have got to.

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'Some lovely memories.

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'Stood up near furnaces.

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'If I hadn't have known Fred, I'd never have gone on that steam launch on Coniston.

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'I can sit back in my chair and close my eyes and drive down Llanberis Pass with Fred.

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'And on the engine like, going over Forth Bridge, the only steam vehicle to go over under its own power.

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'Them are the real highlights.'

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There are another couple of places to visit,

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because it was around here that some of the most important parts of Fred's engine were made.

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They've always had to know what the steam pressure was and how much water they had in the tank.

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If the pressure had got too high or the water level had got too low,

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the consequences would have been disastrous.

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So the pressure and water gauges are absolutely vital.

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WHISTLE BLOWS

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I've had a few pressure gauges from Budenberg's in Manchester.

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They make everything, all the works inside.

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The only thing they don't do is the glass window in the front.

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In its heyday, the company employed over 500 people,

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but now, they're down to just 60-odd workers.

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The Victorian workshops, where this sort of specialist work

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used to be done no longer exists, but the skills are still there,

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even if the work is now done in a modern industrial unit.

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-That was one of the old gauges we used to make. These movements were hand made.

-A bit like clock making.

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It certainly is, yes. And basically, the principle hasn't changed.

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-Oh, no.

-From the early days.

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-1850s, 1860s.

-Yeah, yeah.

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Steam pressure gauges are still handmade at Budenberg's as they have been for over 150 years,

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under a patented design filed by them in 1849.

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The pressure gauge consists of an oval tube that's been bent into a circle.

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And the steam is offered into one end of the tube, which thereupon it tries to straighten out the tube.

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On the other end, which is blanked off, there's a linkage

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that goes to a needle and tells you how many pounds per square inch of steam there is in the boiler.

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Yeah, one day, about, must be about 15 years since or something like that,

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we stopped for lunch somewhere near Knutsford, or somewhere that road, Cheshire like in this pub.

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And this guy came in with a yellow silk scarf cravat, with red spots on, a big 'tache.

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And he said, "I see you've not got one of our gauges on your machine."

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And I said, "Who are you, Mr Budenberg?"

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He says, "As a matter of fact, yes."

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I said "I'll tell you what, mate, at home, I've got a lovely one,

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"but it's really badly damaged."

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He says, "You bloody chaps are all the same, you want it for nothing I suppose."

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Then we had a pint and bid him good day.

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But he said "I'll send a man."

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And we give it him, he took it away and it came back and it were like

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brand new, all shined up, new glass, new everything.

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Back on the edge of Bolton, they've one more visit to make.

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Some of the most important parts of the engine are the smallest,

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like the nuts and bolts that hold it together.

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And this is where Fred got the nuts and bolts for his engine.

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Thomas Smith's, or Smith and Bullough as it's now known, is one of the old time nut and bolt works

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which produce about 800 bolts a day.

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One of the problems that steam enthusiasts have is that it's difficult to get the right

0:23:050:23:11

nuts and bolts for their engines because everything is metric now.

0:23:110:23:14

The beauty of this workshop is that they still make the old style imperial thread sizes

0:23:140:23:21

that a traction engine like Fred's needs.

0:23:210:23:24

There don't look anybody about. Shall I ring the bell?

0:23:240:23:28

-No, I know them all, they're nice lads.

-Oh, after you then.

0:23:280:23:32

-I know the way upstairs.

-Go on then.

0:23:320:23:36

Hello chaps, how are you doing?

0:23:360:23:38

Hello, Fred. Yeah, fine.

0:23:380:23:40

Is it all right if I show the BBC where my nuts and bolts come from, that hold my engine together?

0:23:400:23:46

Yeah, no problem at all.

0:23:460:23:48

You know, we'll not fall in any nut and bolt machines or owt like that.

0:23:480:23:52

-No, no. No problem at all.

-Is that OK, then?

-Yep.

0:23:520:23:54

Smith and Bullough's nut and bolt works are one of the few

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companies in all of Great Britain that specialise in making one-offs.

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Great big bolts with funny threads and big square heads and any fancy shapes you want.

0:24:060:24:12

Whitworth is a word that's practically non-existent now,

0:24:120:24:16

but you can get Whitworth nuts and bolts here.

0:24:160:24:19

I've come today to make a special bolt for my traction engine.

0:24:190:24:24

-Any one?

-Any one.

0:24:240:24:27

'In Manchester, Sir Joseph Whitworth perfected the standardisation of screw threads,

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'so everybody could make nuts and bolts that were all practically the same.

0:24:350:24:40

'Up until the beginning on the Industrial Revolution,

0:24:400:24:44

'threads and bolts and nuts had been individually made.

0:24:440:24:48

'I've actually worked on machinery where each nut was made to fit the bolt.

0:24:480:24:54

'And when you screwed them on, they waggled about as they went down until they actually landed on

0:24:540:24:59

'the face that they were intended to go on.

0:24:590:25:02

'Whitworth realised that if all engineers could use

0:25:020:25:06

'the same machinery for making threads and measuring, mass production would be possible.

0:25:060:25:12

By 1860, all his measuring equipment and his standardised threads were accepted throughout Great Britain.

0:25:120:25:20

Where are we going now?

0:25:240:25:26

I think we're going to the stores.

0:25:260:25:28

Look at the size of them, Fred.

0:25:300:25:32

Aye. Them are nice, aren't they?

0:25:320:25:34

Beautiful. Made in Holland. Magic.

0:25:340:25:38

-Now then, John.

-Ah, Fred, what can we do for you this time?

0:25:400:25:44

-Scrounging again.

-Scrounging again.

0:25:440:25:46

For our tractor.

0:25:460:25:48

-Do you fancy a cuppa?

-Oh, aye. We'll have a brew while we're talking, yeah.

-Sort something out?

0:25:480:25:53

We used all them inch and a half, seven, five eight set screws what hold all the tyres on the tractor.

0:25:530:26:01

We had the back wheels in the back kitchen and it were

0:26:010:26:04

three inches deep, drilling all the holes, and putting threads down the holes for them to screw in.

0:26:040:26:09

But I'm pleased to say none of them have come loose and it's had a beating.

0:26:090:26:13

I was polishing round them only last night, you know.

0:26:130:26:17

Yeah, very good job.

0:26:170:26:18

Yeah, my tractor's more or less held together by Mr Smith's nuts and bolts.

0:26:180:26:24

I can't remember if I've paid for them or if they give them me.

0:26:240:26:27

I think it were postcards we got for that with your picture on it.

0:26:270:26:32

I'd forgotten about that, yeah.

0:26:320:26:35

Some history in here, you know? But we keep managing, keep going.

0:26:350:26:39

You're still here, that's the main thing.

0:26:390:26:42

Shall we go and have a look at the thread cutting shop?

0:26:420:26:45

Yeah. Mind that hose pipe.

0:26:450:26:47

He'll just squirt all up my leg.

0:26:470:26:49

Yeah, we'll see if he'll put some threads on the end of here for us.

0:26:490:26:53

Hiya Tony, how you doing? I hear you can put some threads on here for us.

0:26:530:26:57

-Do you want to put the thread on it?

-Now then.

0:26:570:27:00

-Underneath.

-Underneath, it's easier. You can get it balanced better.

0:27:030:27:07

Does it stop automatically? Oh aye, yeah. Like a lathe.

0:27:070:27:11

-That's the tricky bit, hitting it in the middle like.

-Yeah.

0:27:110:27:15

There you are.

0:27:160:27:19

A few weeks practice and I'll be all right, yeah.

0:27:210:27:24

Fred has come to the end of his grand tour and there couldn't be

0:27:240:27:28

a more appropriate place for him to finish up than here.

0:27:280:27:32

Because, as places like this modernise, they had to do away with the old technology,

0:27:320:27:37

like the line shafting that once drove all the machines here.

0:27:370:27:42

I remember coming by here about 20-odd years ago

0:27:420:27:46

and it was all lying in the yard, wasn't it? He said, "You can have whatever you want."

0:27:460:27:51

But Fred was able to provide a good home for it.

0:27:510:27:55

It's all going round. Drives 18 pieces of machinery in me garden.

0:27:550:27:59

From Smith Bullough, it's just a short drive through Bolton to get back to Fred's garden.

0:27:590:28:06

Since they left here three months ago, Fred and Alf have travelled

0:28:060:28:11

over 1,000 miles and the engine has had a really good road test.

0:28:110:28:15

But there's now a bit of fine tuning needed before Fred can set off on his most important trip.

0:28:150:28:22

He's going to complete his grand tour of Britain by driving down to

0:28:220:28:27

Buckingham Palace on his engine to receive his MBE from the Queen.

0:28:270:28:31

I've been restoring this traction engine for 27 years.

0:28:380:28:42

I've really fulfilled a dream now of actually touring the country,

0:28:420:28:46

driving it all over the shore, meeting interesting people.

0:28:460:28:50

But I've one more long journey to make,

0:28:500:28:54

all the way to London to meet the Queen and receive an MBE

0:28:540:28:58

for services to industrial heritage and broadcasting.

0:28:580:29:03

On my way to London, we've stopped off at the Great Central Railway,

0:29:030:29:08

which is one of the best preserved railways because it's got a double track like proper railways did have.

0:29:080:29:14

Most preserved railways are single line which were once branch lines,

0:29:140:29:20

but this is a proper main line.

0:29:200:29:23

Yeah, in the great days of steam railways, there were two routes up England.

0:29:230:29:29

one up the west coast and one up the east coast.

0:29:290:29:33

In 1893, the Great Central put one up the middle and in 1899,

0:29:330:29:38

they got from London to Leicester, and now it's the only mainline

0:29:380:29:43

with real steam engines.

0:29:430:29:46

And they have 20 here.

0:29:460:29:49

-Yeah, and here's the locomotive. And this is Fred the driver. Hello.

-I won't be coming with you.

0:29:490:29:56

-Oh, well.

-We shall look after him.

0:29:560:29:59

-I'll see how they're getting on with the repairs on the fire hole door.

-Right.

-I'll leave Fred with you.

0:29:590:30:05

-He'll be in safe hands, Alf.

-Sorry about this!

-I can see!

-Right!

-Catch you later.

0:30:050:30:11

We better get rolling. Bloody hell!

0:30:110:30:14

-A big beer belly, you'd never get though that hole!

-No!

0:30:140:30:19

This O4 class locomotive is one of only two surviving engines

0:30:190:30:24

from the original Great Central Railway.

0:30:240:30:29

Built in 1912, it was restored and is part of the national collection.

0:30:290:30:35

For Fred, riding on the footplate of a steam locomotive like this has never lost its magic.

0:30:350:30:42

But for Alf, there's always something to do on Fred's engine.

0:30:420:30:48

-How are you going on with it, Jack?

-OK.

-Hello.

0:30:480:30:52

-Is it working all right? Opening all right? You're happy with it?

-Yeah.

0:30:520:30:58

-Your next trip will be down to London to see the Queen?

-Yes.

0:31:100:31:15

-Are you looking forward to that?

-Yeah.

0:31:150:31:18

-Nervous? No?

-No.

-Is your dad nervous, do you reckon?

0:31:180:31:22

-Probably.

-A bit, yeah.

-He's acting differently.

-Is he?

0:31:220:31:26

Yeah. He's not been saying a lot, which is very unusual.

0:31:260:31:31

That's 'cos they'll not let him go in with his flat cap on!

0:31:310:31:36

-I wonder what it's like inside the Palace.

-It's very beautiful.

0:31:360:31:40

-I wonder if she'll be going, "Cup of tea?"

-Yep, that's it.

0:31:400:31:46

-I think he's letting, er, Jack have a steer round, isn't he?

-Yes and you.

0:31:460:31:51

Yeah, I'll let you go first, Jack.

0:31:510:31:54

-Thank you.

-A bit dodgy with all this traffic.

0:31:540:31:58

That squeaky noise reminds me of my youth.

0:31:580:32:01

That were bad! Cut!

0:32:110:32:14

-How many tonnes have we got?

-234.

0:32:170:32:20

Yeah, yeah.

0:32:200:32:23

And I reckon we didn't burn much above 500 or 600 weight, did we?

0:32:230:32:28

I wonder how much diesel fuel it would take to move the same weight.

0:32:280:32:33

How far is it from here to London?

0:32:330:32:36

I've no idea to be honest.

0:32:360:32:38

-Quite a long drive?

-Oh, aye.

0:32:380:32:41

It'll be a fair way from here.

0:32:410:32:44

See you, mate. Tara!

0:32:440:32:47

-Right then, Graham.

-Did you like that?

0:32:470:32:50

-Aye, it were all right.

-Right, we'll have a look at the engine shed.

-Right.

0:32:500:32:57

And this is where the engine was restored.

0:32:570:33:01

Can I introduce you to Fred Dibnah?

0:33:040:33:06

-Fred's just been out on the O4.

-OK.

-Craig's the man who rebuilt it.

0:33:060:33:13

Yeah, I've heard.

0:33:130:33:15

He's learned more about steam than anybody else here.

0:33:150:33:19

-That's good for a young man.

-It is.

-Yeah.

-I'll leave you to chat.

0:33:190:33:25

-Yeah.

-See you later.

-All right.

-Thanks.

0:33:250:33:29

-We just had a good run down the line.

-Right.

-On one that you done up.

-Yeah? Did you enjoy it?

0:33:290:33:36

-It were great.

-Well, it took me about three years to complete it.

-I bet.

-I had to strip it all down.

0:33:360:33:43

-Take it all totally to bits.

-What a pleasurable thing to do.

0:33:430:33:48

Put it all back together. What about the boiler?

0:33:480:33:53

Basically, a full re-tube, a few stays here and there, but apart from that it was...

0:33:530:33:59

-1912 it were made, weren't it?

-Yeah.

0:33:590:34:02

Did you have much with the bearings and that part of it?

0:34:020:34:06

All the bearings were replaced.

0:34:060:34:10

Were there owt wrong with the journals?

0:34:100:34:13

They were fairly smooth but we had them skimmed. To get 'em back to new.

0:34:130:34:18

I'm a bit worried about my tractor.

0:34:180:34:20

I don't know what I made the front bearings out of,

0:34:200:34:25

but there's a very weak solution of gold paint coming out with the oil.

0:34:250:34:30

-Right, yeah.

-Something's wrong.

0:34:300:34:33

-You've got to be careful when you're getting things out of scrap yards.

-Definitely.

0:34:330:34:39

-How are you doing?

-We're getting there.

-Did you get the fire hole door on?

0:34:390:34:46

He's done a good job, Jack has. It's perfect.

0:34:460:34:50

I've been having a whale of a time on all these nice engines.

0:34:500:34:56

I'm having a Guinness. Where's me chair? I need a sit down.

0:34:560:35:01

Hey, it's nice and peaceful here, innit, Rog?

0:35:010:35:05

-Yeah.

-It reminds me of when I used to sneak onto the railway sheds in Bolton, that have all gone now.

0:35:050:35:12

Yuppie houses all over it now. Yeah, when I were little.

0:35:120:35:17

Happy days.

0:35:170:35:19

And here we are, sat here, miles away from home, in Loughborough,

0:35:190:35:24

in a nice interesting place, hey?

0:35:240:35:27

-Yeah, it's lovely, innit?

-Yeah.

0:35:270:35:30

On a Saturday morning, I'd climb over the fence and go up this embankment.

0:35:300:35:36

My uncle were there with his steam engine. He'd let me get on it.

0:35:360:35:42

All Saturday morning, chuff, chuff, chuff.

0:35:420:35:46

12pm, it went back to engine shed.

0:35:460:35:49

So, I had to vacate - I had to get over the fence and go home for me meat pie.

0:35:490:35:56

-Yeah, there were a pub. You've seen it on Manchester Road - the Wagon and Horses.

-Oh, yeah.

0:35:560:36:03

And it had an iron ladder out of the sidings down into the back yard of the pub. And I'm not kidding.

0:36:030:36:10

It were as shiny as that regulator handle with the usage that it had.

0:36:100:36:15

All day long, railwaymen were going on duty or coming off duty,

0:36:150:36:21

and on a Saturday night it were chock-full - you couldn't get a pint.

0:36:210:36:28

On the big bridge, there'd be a black fire with 40 wagons of coal blowing its head off into sky.

0:36:280:36:35

Firemen in the pub were, "Just one more before we set off"!

0:36:350:36:39

Then they got up on the engine, blasting on the whistle and away they went!

0:36:390:36:45

They'd get arrested nowadays for that.

0:36:450:36:48

That lamp on the mantelpiece - Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway, Manchester-Victoria.

0:36:480:36:55

This guy were a shunter, a man with a stick with a hook on the end.

0:36:550:37:01

He were in the pub, drunk with the hat on the back of his head.

0:37:010:37:05

Like Will Hay in that film Oh, Mr Porter!

0:37:050:37:09

I says, "What are you going to do with your lamp?" "Buy us a pint and you can have the bloody thing!"

0:37:090:37:16

And he give it me. Yeah, he'll be gone and all.

0:37:160:37:20

But I've still got the lamp, it'll be yours some day.

0:37:200:37:25

-The one on the mantelpiece in the parlour?

-Yeah, in the parlour.

0:37:250:37:29

-Yeah, yeah.

-And there's the ones above the lathe in the shed.

0:37:290:37:35

Hughie Winterbottom got me them for the steam roller - they were brand-new.

0:37:350:37:42

You can have them as well.

0:37:420:37:44

With the engine all polished,

0:37:470:37:50

time to head off for London and Fred's appointment at the palace.

0:37:500:37:55

I'm enjoying this trip really. It's tiring but good fun, innit?

0:38:190:38:24

But on the way, there's another little detour.

0:38:290:38:33

Well, now then, yeah.

0:38:330:38:36

While we're here on the edges of London,

0:38:360:38:41

somewhere near here there's this... The Crossness Pumping Station with four great big beam engines in

0:38:410:38:47

that have been here since 1860, which we should have a look at.

0:38:470:38:53

They're quite splendid, I think.

0:38:530:38:55

They're the finest Victorian cast-iron work in all London.

0:38:550:39:00

The Crossness engines are on the River Thames near Abbeywood in south-east London.

0:39:040:39:11

So, it's been quite a detour.

0:39:110:39:13

But he's wanted to see these engines for a long time and he knows this may be his last chance.

0:39:130:39:20

Mmm, here we are.

0:39:220:39:24

Right, disembark. Put the brake on, Roger.

0:39:260:39:30

All right.

0:39:300:39:31

Get in here Fred, have a warm!

0:39:310:39:34

-Cold were that.

-Well, we're here. This is it, innit?

0:39:340:39:39

Built in 1865, when the Thames were polluted,

0:39:390:39:43

and the water supplies were bad news.

0:39:430:39:47

Mr Joseph Bazalgette got the job

0:39:470:39:50

and he built 85 miles of sewers to clean up London and then, of course,

0:39:500:39:56

three pumping stations to help out when it started going up brew.

0:39:560:40:00

-This is the remains of the last one.

-The last one.

0:40:000:40:05

It's still got the engines in. Some of them, there's no engines.

0:40:050:40:10

And I believe this is the biggest pumping engine, well, the beam engine in the world, isn't it?

0:40:100:40:15

We'll go and have a look at it.

0:40:150:40:18

Come on, boys.

0:40:180:40:20

While Alf's fettling the engine, I'll show you these brilliant steam engines these, phwoar!

0:40:260:40:33

Biggest beam engines in England, or maybe even in the world, built by James Watt.

0:40:330:40:40

Originally, they had 12 Cornish boilers that burned 5,000 tonnes of coal every year

0:40:400:40:48

to make them all go, provide the steam and pump the raw sewage of London down into the Thames.

0:40:480:40:54

By 1920-odd it were all over with. They were derelict, finished, redundant.

0:40:540:41:00

And they were heavily vandalised.

0:41:000:41:03

People here restored it, or it would have gone.

0:41:030:41:08

And how can you destroy something so beautiful?

0:41:080:41:12

-How do you do?

-Welcome.

-We've come to see your beautiful engine.

0:41:140:41:19

-Lovely, isn't it?

-Well, a quarter of it. How long has it took to do this bit?

0:41:190:41:25

About 18 years to do this, but these are all original parts.

0:41:250:41:31

-All this cast-iron work's beautiful, isn't it?

-Come and have a look at the rest of the engine.

0:41:310:41:38

-There you see the crosshead going up and down.

-Oh aye, yeah.

0:41:390:41:44

Mr Watts' famous link motion.

0:41:440:41:47

The fascinating thing about it all

0:41:470:41:51

-is that crosshead coming down and stopping just that much.

-It's about five-eighths of an inch off.

0:41:510:41:57

-Yeah.

-I wonder when they put it up at first.

0:41:570:42:01

Did they have any fun - "Let's take another quarter of an inch off."

0:42:010:42:07

-Is this the top end of the valve gear?

-Yes. This is the inlet valve and that's the exhaust valve.

0:42:070:42:14

The inlet valve has this trip mechanism.

0:42:140:42:18

It trips the valve shut at a certain position on the stroke.

0:42:180:42:23

-Is it about a seven-foot stroke?

-Nine foot.

-Nine foot? Bloomin' heck!

0:42:230:42:28

-Shall we go up to the er...?

-Up to the beam floor.

0:42:300:42:35

Well, here we are Fred. There's the beam.

0:42:350:42:38

42 foot long and weighing all of...

0:42:380:42:42

-50 tonnes!

-Yeah, which is an awful lot.

0:42:420:42:44

It makes you wonder how they got that from Birmingham, doesn't it?

0:42:440:42:48

These are the counterbalance weights.

0:42:480:42:50

Yeah, they were put on after it had been compounded.

0:42:500:42:53

To compensate for the weight of the additional cylinders.

0:42:530:42:57

-The beam was cast in Birmingham.

-Benjamin Goodfellow, wasn't it?

0:42:570:43:01

-Yes.

-Not so far from where we went.

-They're no longer in business.

0:43:010:43:07

-Oh, no, no. They've all gone!

-But we've managed to get the drawings.

0:43:070:43:12

What we've tried to do is to pick up what we think was the decoration they had in those days.

0:43:120:43:19

Could we look at some more of the decoration?

0:43:190:43:22

-Where it's all very beautiful.

-Yeah.

0:43:220:43:25

And it drives on teeth behind the flywheel.

0:43:250:43:29

-Hello, Peter. Can I introduce...

-Mr Bazalgette's nephew by three.

0:43:290:43:34

-Joseph's great-great grandson.

-Three generations ago.

-Right.

0:43:340:43:39

-So...

-Can I leave you to talk?

-Thanks.

-See you later.

-Right, Fred.

0:43:390:43:44

Is this the smallest, biggest, compared to others you've seen?

0:43:440:43:52

I haven't seen one as big - the weight of the beam is 49 tonnes or nearly 50 tonnes

0:43:520:43:58

The others I asked about were only 30-odd tonne.

0:43:580:44:02

That's one up for Crossness then!

0:44:020:44:06

And how much good London excrement did this lift every minute in the 19th century?

0:44:060:44:11

A few hundred tonnes.

0:44:110:44:13

This one on its own would do 120 tonnes of effluent a minute.

0:44:130:44:18

-There's other words but you can't say that on telly.

-Family show.

0:44:180:44:23

What a task, hey! Cleaning up London of cholera, typhoid.

0:44:230:44:28

-I think I can be proud of that.

-Yeah. Well, I should be.

0:44:280:44:33

To me, you never cease to wonder how they had such forethought

0:44:330:44:38

to make everything big enough, you know.

0:44:380:44:41

We make things and they're only designed to last 20 year.

0:44:410:44:46

He'd get into trouble nowadays - spending too much on the system.

0:44:460:44:52

That's why it's lasted 150 years. Still doing the job it is today.

0:44:520:44:56

The other thing that always amazes me about these engines, is that we can almost talk in a whisper.

0:44:560:45:03

It's such a delicate piece of equipment. No real noise.

0:45:030:45:08

It's had little done in mechanical maintenance

0:45:080:45:12

to the main bits that would make the noise, like the main bearings.

0:45:120:45:18

When I were a little lad, I used to go in spinning mills.

0:45:180:45:22

They buzzed round at a lot more revs than this.

0:45:220:45:26

Some of them made a terrible row. It were the end and nobody bothered.

0:45:260:45:31

-Not maintained properly.

-No.

0:45:310:45:33

-I marvel at people volunteering to restore a bit of heritage that they love.

-Yeah.

0:45:330:45:40

Come on, you go around and...

0:45:400:45:43

I'd like to have been here on the first day,

0:45:430:45:48

after all that grafting, scraping thick grease, the thing actually revolved.

0:45:480:45:54

Unbelievable feeling.

0:45:540:45:56

-All the engines you've helped... Is it why you've got your visit to the Palace?

-Oh, aye.

0:45:560:46:04

-Well, I think so.

-I think it is. How do you feel about that?

-Yeah.

0:46:040:46:09

Well, a bit of a surprise, I tell you, when I got the letter,

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summoning me to meet the Queen.

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The letter - did it give you the reason why?

0:46:160:46:21

-Yeah, services to heritage and TV work.

-I'll vote for that.

0:46:210:46:27

-Put it there. Brilliant to have you here.

-Thank you, I've enjoyed it.

0:46:270:46:32

After leaving the magnificent pumping engines at Mr Bazalgette's, we're going to the centre of London

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to have a look around the sights and go over a few bridges and cause general havoc with the traffic.

0:46:410:46:48

Come on. We4're all right.

0:46:490:46:52

There are still problems with the engine.

0:47:330:47:37

-Wait a minute.

-Let me get an hammer. Hammer!

-I can mend this when we get back to base, you know.

0:47:460:47:53

That's it.

0:47:560:47:58

The engine's going very well but there's one or two small faults like this plug.

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Every time you go over a bump, it goes further down.

0:48:040:48:07

-I don't know how much water we've got in it.

-It's above the hole.

0:48:090:48:14

Hiya! Retired steeplejack, that lad. Mechanical engineers.

0:48:160:48:22

But driving around the centre of London is hot, thirsty work.

0:48:320:48:37

There are too many nice pubs along the route to drive past them all without sampling some London beer.

0:48:370:48:44

We'll go and have a swift half, you know.

0:48:440:48:48

Fetch me one over here.

0:48:480:48:51

-The other thing is, I've no money.

-Jack, where was that 20 quid mum gave us?

0:48:510:48:57

-No, that's train ticket.

-I'll see if there's any in the van.

-Brilliant.

-Money like this, you mean?

0:48:570:49:04

-Yeah.

-Well, we've got a tenner.

-Yeah, come on.

0:49:040:49:08

If anybody comes, we've stopped for a...

0:49:080:49:11

I'll walk about with an oil can and try and look intelligent.

0:49:110:49:16

-Are you nervous?

-Should I be?

0:49:200:49:23

The Queen, remember! Your little medal.

0:49:230:49:27

-Me gong. Me gold cross.

-Yeah.

0:49:270:49:31

This trip, what did you see that were good?

0:49:310:49:35

I think we smoked Tony Blair out of Big Ben!

0:49:350:49:39

No, we didn't.

0:49:390:49:41

-We gassed him.

-We've got some super coal, no.

-Have we?

-Yeah.

0:49:410:49:46

-What do you think, about the buildings?

-Nice.

-Yeah.

0:49:460:49:51

Nice to see you!

0:49:560:49:58

And Fred's got a very special parking place reserved.

0:49:590:50:04

We've been given permission to park it up at the Guards parade ground

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while we go and receive our award off the Queen.

0:50:100:50:14

It should certainly be safe here.

0:50:140:50:17

We're here at last. You'd better get some clean togs on.

0:50:210:50:26

-I'll have a look at the engine.

-Yeah, right.

0:50:260:50:31

I suppose I'd better get changed. I can't see the Queen like this.

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So I'll go and get me penguin suit on.

0:50:360:50:41

I'm really glad for Fred, you know.

0:50:430:50:46

It's overdue.

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He really deserves it.

0:50:490:50:52

I'm ready now to see the Queen!

0:51:020:51:04

It's being looked after really good. No chance of it getting vandalised.

0:51:200:51:25

We left it with some soldiers.

0:51:250:51:28

-Are we in the right place? Right.

-Brilliant.

0:51:280:51:32

I never thought I'd be coming here!

0:51:320:51:35

-We were going to get some ladders for you!

-Well, there's still plenty of room for steeplejacks in London.

0:51:350:51:42

-Where I live there's nothing left.

-Do you want some repairs done?

0:51:420:51:48

-Enjoy your day.

-Take care, have a nice day.

-Thank you.

0:51:480:51:53

Who's next?

0:51:530:51:54

The braces I've got on at present -

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the back connection is the button hole in the back pocket,

0:52:000:52:04

and the front are the tightening-up pieces, no belt lugs on these pants.

0:52:040:52:10

Yeah, well-deserved.

0:52:130:52:16

But I'm not so sure when he comes back whether I have to take off me hat, bow or curtsey!

0:52:160:52:23

I've been here before, but only ever stood outside and looked through them forbidding railings.

0:52:260:52:32

I never thought I'd be here.

0:52:320:52:35

It's quite as splendid inside as it is outside, isn't it?

0:52:350:52:40

Er... We'll nick a couple of these gas lamps for back at base.

0:52:400:52:45

-Mr Suggs, London.

-Shall I go and get your ladders?

0:52:450:52:49

That flagpole is three ladders high. I tell you that.

0:52:490:52:54

I wonder where the Queen's apartments are?

0:52:540:52:58

Dr Frederick Dibnah, for services to heritage and broadcasting.

0:53:010:53:05

She said, "You don't still climb up chimneys?"

0:53:090:53:13

"No, it's a young man's business!"

0:53:130:53:16

And then it were the handshake and bugger off, it's time to go!

0:53:200:53:25

Can you turn this way? Fred?

0:53:250:53:28

And here I am, stood in the middle of Buckingham Palace with a medal.

0:53:280:53:34

Fred, just hold it up a bit. Lovely.

0:53:340:53:37

-What was it like, meeting the Queen?

-Well, it's a bit unusual really.

0:53:370:53:43

I never, ever envisaged I would ever end up in Buckingham Palace getting an MBE, you know,

0:53:430:53:50

Nowadays, do you think as yourself as Fred Dibnah, steeplejack or Fred Dibnah, broadcaster?

0:53:500:53:56

-Well...

-What's your first love?

0:53:560:53:57

Neither, really. I'm a back street mechanic.

0:53:570:54:01

Aberdeen University gave me an honorary degree in back street mechanicing.

0:54:010:54:06

And now Birmingham University have given me one.

0:54:060:54:10

-So it'll do for me, that!

-And now you've been honoured by the Queen.

0:54:100:54:13

-Aye, I've got an MBE too!

-Congratulations. Nice to see you.

-Yeah, you're the tennis player.

0:54:130:54:18

-Yeah, that's right how are you?

-Yeah.

-Let's get a little bit of these in.

0:54:180:54:22

Many, many years ago, when I was at school, you were the first person I ever photographed.

0:54:240:54:29

-Thank you very much!

-Take it to the chemist and you'll get your pills.

0:54:290:54:33

-What did you feel when you were told you were going to get this?

-Surprised, to say the least.

0:54:330:54:38

Does it bother you at all that it's got this "Empire" word in it?

0:54:380:54:42

No, I think the Queen and the Empire is what made Great Britain great.

0:54:420:54:45

I'm a real royalist, mate.

0:54:450:54:48

I mean everything about this place is beautiful, isn't it?

0:54:480:54:51

It's an iron founder's dream, all of this.

0:54:510:54:55

And it's that love of the craftsmanship and the building and engineering skills of the past

0:54:550:55:00

and his passion for telling us about it that made Fred so special as a broadcaster.

0:55:000:55:06

But looking at these things for television wasn't without its drawbacks.

0:55:060:55:11

The great drawback with television presenting

0:55:110:55:14

is you don't get enough time to actually study the objects.

0:55:140:55:18

They have to come and find me because I'm off looking at things of great interest to me,

0:55:180:55:23

where I could have spent days not hours, like the lantern on Ely Cathedral.

0:55:230:55:29

Quite a magnificent piece of woodwork.

0:55:290:55:32

That's why we created that model that we did that were

0:55:320:55:37

my version of how them men got it all up there in the Middle Ages.

0:55:370:55:42

And then, there's the modern wonders of the world like the Forth Rail Bridge

0:55:420:55:47

and more modern ones, you know, the suspension bridges made of wire, which are fantastic things.

0:55:470:55:54

The most exciting one were the one over the M62.

0:55:550:55:59

I've never, ever seen anything go over that bridge.

0:55:590:56:02

But when you're up there, you don't know where you are.

0:56:020:56:05

All of a sudden, you just come to these handrails and whoo!

0:56:050:56:08

200 foot down!

0:56:080:56:11

All the people that I've met, they're like the lads who really do it for a living proper

0:56:130:56:21

like the steam hammer men in Sheffield.

0:56:210:56:23

They were like no talking, like a team, perfectly rehearsed in every move. That, to me, were brilliant.

0:56:230:56:30

I just like that style of workman, like boilers and riveting and all of that sort of thing.

0:56:300:56:36

And for Fred, it's this back street mechanicing, as he calls it,

0:56:360:56:41

and all that he's taught himself in this field, that is his greatest achievement.

0:56:410:56:46

He believes that more than anything else,

0:56:460:56:51

it's what he's done to preserve these skills that's earned him his engineering doctorates and his MBE.

0:56:510:56:57

Yeah. I don't know whether I can wear it whilst, you know, driving the engine.

0:57:000:57:07

I don't know. Maybe.

0:57:070:57:09

That's it.

0:57:160:57:18

A lifetime's ambition fulfilled.

0:57:180:57:21

Now it's time to celebrate.

0:57:210:57:23

And what a way to see the sights.

0:57:230:57:25

-Can you see the big wheel?

-The London Eye, that's called.

0:57:250:57:29

Yeah, all the ridge tiles on the Houses of Parliament, they're all cast iron.

0:57:300:57:37

There's lots of beautiful buildings in London.

0:57:370:57:40

-What about Big Ben then, hey?

-Good.

0:57:440:57:46

We've been up there, you know.

0:57:460:57:48

Right amongst it all, where the bell is.

0:57:480:57:51

-Where we going now?

-We'll go home and see what's what in the back garden, I think.

0:57:590:58:04

'Well, I've done it, it's finished.'

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