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With 100 miles already covered, Fred Dibnah has now reached the Lake District | 0:00:24 | 0:00:30 | |
on his grand tour of Britain's industrial past. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
My eldest son Jack's come over from the Isle of Man to give us a lift on this trip. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:40 | |
And really, the way we're going on I think we need all the help we can get. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
We've got Jimmy and the support vehicle behind us. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
We're stopping so frequently through lack of steam | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
and going up hills, that a pair of flashing lights behind is a must on country lanes like this. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:58 | |
The Lake District isn't really an area that most people associate | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
with our industrial past and heavy industry. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
But once upon a time, round Workington and Burrow-in-Furness | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
there were great industrial centres and they mined iron ore | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
by the hundreds of tonnes and it was some of the best iron ore in all of England. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:24 | |
And alas it's all gone now. Bit sad really. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
But while we're up here we're calling on a mate of mine Mr Richard Ransome, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
who is also a fellow traction engine owner and steam engine enthusiast, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
to do a few running repairs cos it's giving me trouble, and I'm a bit disappointed in it. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
Trouble is, in the hurry to get the engine on the road, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
Fred didn't have time for enough fine-tuning. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
So he keeps coming across little problems that need to be sorted out. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
It isn't steaming very well at all. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
I think... The fact the piston rods... is the one thing... | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
it's my fault, I've put the cylinder block a bit too far forward and the... | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
I know for a fact that the piston, the high pressure piston, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
covers the port holes up when it's in the forward position. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
Which means that when it's supposed to be working, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
the steam can't get at it properly. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
So when I get to Mr Ransome's, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
I'll beg him to use his workshop and shorten the piston rods by about quarter of an inch. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:34 | |
-Are you going to get to Dick's all right? -Well, there's another big hill yet! | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
Fred knows some good steam engine men here who he'll be able to get help and advice from. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:46 | |
Mind that car. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
But he's got to get there first. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
Fred's engine is a four horse-power model, built to pull around 15 tonnes. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
But right now it's struggling to pull two. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
This is ridiculous, isn't it? | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
-A bottom gear job. -Mm-hm. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
We're on, Dad. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
At least the scenery is good. It's time for a re-think. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
Fortunately, Fred's friend Dick Ransome has arrived and he's got a plan. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:24 | |
We were a bit worried as to whether the engine'd get the van up. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
So Dick's got one of his mates what'll come and rescue it, pull it up with a Land Rover. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:34 | |
-It's a bit of an insult to our engine but... -Just a bit of insurance Fred, isn't it? | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
-When we get there we'll do some running repairs, won't we? -Absolutely, make it well again. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:44 | |
-Any man who never did owt never took the risk. -Never was a man, was he? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
When you think we had t'boiler in about five different pieces, three times, before we riveted it together. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:54 | |
We must've lost summat somewhere. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
Anyway, I think if we do what we say we'll be all right. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
-We'll give it a whirl. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. -Right. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
That's a bit easier | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
without the living van in tow. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
It's been such a disappointing journey! | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
In the morning, when it's cooled down, we'll have to take the cylinder end covers off | 0:04:56 | 0:05:02 | |
and weigh up how much we can take off the end of a piston rod. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
And hopefully he'll help me, I know he'll help me, cos I've known him a long time. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:13 | |
Something happened, we lost the nuts and they never got put back so... | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
-I hope it's... -Never mind losing your nuts! | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
-Thank you, Mr Ransome. -God bless you. -Have you got another crateful? | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
-Yeah, two-box-full. -Good health. -Aye. -Why have you not got one? | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
I'm a bitter man. I'm not a reet a stout fella. Well, I am... | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
-Good health. -Good health, Fred. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
-Dad! -What? | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
-I'm moving it. -Oh, right, I'll get out your way then. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
Woah, that's full forwards now you can see the point there, can't you? | 0:06:02 | 0:06:08 | |
But is it enough, you know? | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
-Now I don't think that's healthy-looking, is it? -No. But it's in that recess, isn't it? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:16 | |
-Yeah. -But it's not healthy looking. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
-It is, it's too long, isn't it? -Yeah. I think we've gotta shorten, maybe leave this one. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:24 | |
-Woah, that's just about covering it up, isn't it? -I reckon about quarter of an inch, easy. -Yeah. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:31 | |
It'll make it so the steam comes in a lot better than it is doing. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:37 | |
Hold it there Jack, back a bit. Woah. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Yeah, go on, Jack. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
-We've got Roger coming, who's quite a bleeding authority... -Oh, absolutely... -..on steam engines. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:54 | |
He actually makes steam engines for rich people's steam yachts, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
for Lake Windermere, and everywhere else. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Turn it back again, Jack. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
Morning! | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
-What've you found, then? -We've got a problem. -Got a nest in there, have you? | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
-Yeah, dunno what it is. -You gonna lift me up, then? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
You think the whole crosshead, the whole piston rod, the whole lot... | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
Yeah, it's too far forward. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
-There is a slight clearance. -Yeah, but it's like nothing. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:31 | |
I mean it looks it. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
If you put it in with 200 on the clock, and open the regulator, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:40 | |
it's reluctant to start without the double eye. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Yeah, what do you think, Roger? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Generally, it's not in bad condition. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
I'm a bit worried about the way the piston is covering the port opening | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
-in the cylinder, so when the valve opens there is no room for... -The steam, yeah. -..to get through. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:04 | |
So what I propose to doing is lending you a high speed burr | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
and machining a lot of the iron out of the cylinder round the port... | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
Anyway I'm going to go to down to me boat, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
-and if later in the -day -you fancy coming out for a run then I'll... -Yeah, I'll love that. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
-Get me away from this! -Get something that works! -Yeah. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
-All right, then. -Nice to see you, anyway. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
-See you, see you later, Roger. -Bye. -Ta-ra. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:32 | |
Good afternoon, Roger! | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Have you got t'steam up? | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
Oh, yeah, blowing hot! | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
Yeah. We're ready for our trip round the lake. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
Well, the Shamrock, she was built in 1906 by Shepherds of Bowness. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:06 | |
Wealthy families, such as, I think I'm right in saying, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
families like Beatrix Potter's family used to come and take... | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
the castle for the summer season, and the boat would be part of the hiring. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:20 | |
And then eventually, Second World War came along | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
and the numbers of people that could afford to do this had gone, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
and immediately after the war it had its lovely steam plant removed, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:35 | |
it had a TVO engine fitted, and then about ten years later, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
it went one step worse and had a diesel engine fitted. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
And all this lovely boiler casing and everything was removed. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
The whole boat lost its dignity. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
And until 1976, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
it was just lying derelict because nobody wanted to go out | 0:09:55 | 0:10:02 | |
in an old-fashioned boat like this, the awful 60's and 70's... | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
old was not wanted. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
So it just laid around, empty, no engine, no anything, it was just a hull. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
Roger obtained it. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
And it took three years almost, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
to get the boat back into its original concept. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
We had some wonderful times. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
-And it is the way to go. -It is, aye. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
-I mean, the modern diesel, is very good but it's not like this, is it? -FRED IMITATES ENGINE NOISE | 0:10:31 | 0:10:37 | |
I mean, there's really no sound at all. There's no feel, there's no motion, there's nothing. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:43 | |
I believe you've finally mended my gramophone. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
Oh, I did, but it isn't a gramophone, it's a phonograph. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
It's a 1905 Edison Gem Mark B Phonograph. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:56 | |
And...it's clockwise. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Clockwork, of course. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
And it's got a lovely aluminium horn.That's new. This is new. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:07 | |
The cylinder is made of wax, it's also 1905. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
It's an Edison Bell cylinder. They were made in this country. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
Most cylinders you can get hold of are American, but this is English. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
-Mm. -You know. And we'll see if it'll go. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
-CRACKLING -We'll soon see. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-VOICE ON THE RECORDING: -'The Old Colonial March, played by the London Regimental Band.' | 0:11:28 | 0:11:36 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
-Do you like it? -Ah, it's wonderful, yes. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Them lads that recorded that won't be around now, will they? | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
I doubt it. If they are, they'll be smelly, won't they?! | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
MUSIC CONTINUES | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
-MUSIC STOPS -Now, then, did you like that? There we are. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:20 | |
Now back to work on the engine. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Will the engine doctor be able to cure the problem? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
Well, Roger's got his hand-held milling cutter, and we're going to put a champer on the port | 0:12:40 | 0:12:47 | |
so that when the piston is, you know, in its full forward position | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
steam can come past the end of it. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
We think it's a different piston, that's too thick, and it's covering the port up, you know, | 0:12:54 | 0:13:00 | |
when it comes forward. Maybe doing the same going backwards. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Now for the big test. Is the engine going to work any better? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
We're now off to Egremont and the last deep iron ore mine in Europe | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
that still works, and when we get there we shall find out whether our running repair is a success. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:40 | |
The work of the engine doctor seems to have done the trick. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
Iron ore production is Cumbria reached its peak in the 1880s | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
when there were over 300 iron ore shafts. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
Back then the industry employed over 5,000 people in Cumbria. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
-We've made it! -Today there's just three and they're at Florence. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
We've come up the hill with the brake on again! | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
-Well, Fred, we've been waiting a couple of hours for you! -Well... | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
I'm pleased you've got here. We're ready to go down the pit. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
It's a long way from, from, um... Where've we come from? I've forgotten, it's been that long! | 0:14:34 | 0:14:40 | |
I don't know, the last couple of days! | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
Yeah, but we did get here, that's the main thing. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
-It doesn't like hills, this thing. -All right. -I hope YOU like hills | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
-because we've got a cap lamp and a helmet for you. -Yeah. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:58 | |
-Have you got your incline railway going yet? -Yes... | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
The mine is still a commercial operation and the ore they mine here | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
is used to make pigments for the dye in paints. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
Keep your heads and your backs down, lads. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
-Oops! -A bit more than that, Fred! | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
You know, we were a great big mine industry round here, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
-we had between 200 and 300 iron ore mines. -How many men? | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
In this pit alone at the start of the Second World War there were about 1,000 men. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
-In this one pit? -Aye. In fact, we've got, we've got 11 shafts here. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:35 | |
And this is, uh, the site of Number Three shaft. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
This one was sunk in 1905. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
Yeah, when you were sinking this drift out, or a heading like this, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
how much powder would you use? | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
Well, you went for a 5ft advance every shift and you would use 20 to 30lb of explosives. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:58 | |
-Oh, aye. -And, of course, detonators. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
The men worked in companies which would either be twos or threes, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:07 | |
and their daily routine would be for the blast at the end of the shift, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:13 | |
really for to get the fumes clear. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
We favoured spraying into the air a mixture of compressed air, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:22 | |
water and castor oil, of all things! | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
It's a great media for to clear dust. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
Castor oil? Keep you regular that, won't it?! | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
Have you still got that exotic...? | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
-Oh, they're here! -They're there! -Yeah, look at them. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
They're in fine growth there, aren't they? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
-Don't know if we could harvest them. -Have you tried any in the pan? | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
And this is where we come to the ore. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
Remember as well, of course, that there were those 200 to 300 mines, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
perhaps all owned by different companies, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
and all selling to... | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
different iron works. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
And they were vying with each other for quality and price. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
It was a very competitive area to be in, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
and a competitive industry to be in. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
And this isn't a little steam engine down here - | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
machinery like this in the mine is powered by compressed air. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
Right, Fred, well, in here we've got our loader. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
It's powered by compressed air. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
It has a bucket on the front and it loads into its own body. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
And when it's full, we travel it back to the top of the ore pass | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
and we can tilt the body up, the rear door opens, and we tilt it, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
so the load drops into the ore pass. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Marvellous machine, isn't it? | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
It is that. How old is it? | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
That's a good question. We first got them at Hill Moor | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
in '66, I would say. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
-So it would be brand new... -Vintage! -..in about 1966. -Vintage vehicle. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
All our ore went to be made into pig iron and then steel, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
some at Workington | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
and some down at Millom, which was a one-industry town. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
Have a look at this in the roof here. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
As good an example of kidney ore as you'll see anywhere in the world. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
-Yeah. -Tremendous ore. -Magnificent. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
All round here, 80% iron. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
Almost good enough to make hematite jewellery out of. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
But it's a little bit like onion skins. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
Thin layers. You need thick layers for to make good jewellery. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
We don't get much of it nowadays. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
How is it formed, that sort of style? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
-I don't think we've solved how it has been formed. -Nobody knows. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
No, I don't think so. It just appears randomly in the body of the ore. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
-There's tons of it here. -There is, but we've got to leave it there for the time being. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
Right. Is it back to the surface? | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
That just finishes Fred's top off. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
He likes his brass and copper polished up nicely. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
And then later on we're going to get steam up | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
and shoot off to Workington Steel Works | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
where all the iron ore from Florence went to. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
It was running better, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
and it'll have a good trial today when we steam off to Workington. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
I've a bit more due yet before he comes because, uh, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
he likes it to see it gleaming. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:08 | |
Just wipe the paintwork over and then, uh, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
we're ready for off and getting it all dirty again, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
ready for polishing tomorrow! | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
It's running very well, actually. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
On reasonable level roads it's all right. It's when you come to a big steep un... | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
It's like motor cars, you've got to change gear. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Nice to see you here! | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
We're now injecting. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
That means we're putting water in the boiler. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
And when it's, uh... | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
gone up about an inch, we'll set off. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
HORN TOOTS I'm ready for a pint and me tea. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
Are you stopping in the van tonight? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
Yeah, aye, yeah. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
-Oh, right, so we're both stopping in the van? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
I'm not bloody leaving it on its own! | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
Next morning, it's off to the steel works | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
to see where the raw material that was mined at Florence | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
was turned into a product. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
The ore mined at the Florence mine came here to Workington Steel Works | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
where it was converted by Bessemmer converters | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
into steel to manufacture railway lines. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
95% of the UK's railway line were rolled here at Workington. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
And I don't think there's a railway in all the world | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
that's not got "Workington Steel" stamped on the side of its track. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
Today, most of it is rolled in this modern computer-controlled rolling mill. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
But what Fred was interested in seeing was the old hand rolling mill | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
which is still used for small, light and narrow gauge railways. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
This is the last 24-hour rolling mill in the country now. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
-It's pretty ancient! -It is, uh, very, very old. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
This was driven by steam engine | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
-and this was taken out some years ago. -Yeah. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
-It still works and we still get a good saleable product... -Oh, yeah. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
-..from this mill. -Was the steam engine at that end? -Yeah, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
-in the drive. -It's very similar to what I remember from when I were a bit younger in Bolton | 0:22:48 | 0:22:54 | |
-an' all, and, uh... -Was that all manual operation? -Yeah, oh, aye. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
They used to let me have a go | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
but it were bloody harder than it looks! | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
-Can I suggest we go round to the front of the process? -Aye. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
We'll have a look at the slab. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
-They come down to this door down this... -Yeah. -..this tube. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
How long do these lads do before they get a break? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
Well, they tend to do about... | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
He's off NOW, he says! | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
But they'll have an hour on, half an hour off, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
rotate round to an easier job, to try and make sure they're not all on the same job all the time. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:45 | |
They're cutting you bloody short, mate! We had couches in this rolling mill we were at! | 0:23:45 | 0:23:51 | |
-It were right nice, you know! -If we had them, I'd be asleep by now! | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
That's coming to the end of its line. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
This is the future in the sense that this is the 113lb rail | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
-that we do for Network Rail. -Yeah. -And this is the future | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
of making sure that we have good consistent, rail manufacturing. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:15 | |
Good for Great Britain! | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
Great Britain. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
It's like a great snake! | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Is there not a pub across the road? There were about four bloody pubs! | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
There's one left. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
I think I need a drink of cold water. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
-Is he happy now? -No, he wants a drink of cold water. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
Oh, right. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
In 1962 the steel industry employed around 5,000 people in Workington. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
Now there are just 200 employees. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
Most of the old ways of working have gone forever, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
but down at a local pub Fred met some of the former workers to find out what it used to be like. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
-That mill you saw where they're doing it by hand... -Yeah. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
..we always referred to it as Number Two mill. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
We had a rolling mill in Bolton up till 20 year ago. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
-Right. -And it were steam-driven with a vertical steam engine. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
Your men had a rougher time - still today. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
They had bloody couches and easy chairs. And when they'd done so many passes they all flopped into them! | 0:25:19 | 0:25:25 | |
And they had a propeller off an aeroplane driven with a belt, going round and round, keeping them cool. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:31 | |
Now, we had the Solway Colliery and it closed. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
And we lads, we worked in the Bessemer, in the steel-making plant. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
And these colliers got a start in the Bessemer shop. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
And do you know how long they lasted? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
One day! And their reason was, "It's too dangerous here"! | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
-These are miners working three miles under the sea! -It's all them sparks! -It was, Fred, that's right, yeah. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:58 | |
It's quite frightening, really, if you watch it. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
If you realise what could happen to you, if owt went wrong. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
Oh, you'd be... | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Well, I was one of a group who was injured in 1962 | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
when this ladle of iron fell. This shackle had been used which wasn't really supposed to be used. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:19 | |
It was a bit like the straw that broke the camel's back. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
It was only a small emergency ladle with four ton in but, of course, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
it came down and, oddly enough, I was in charge of the job at the time and, uh, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:34 | |
I got knocked down in the rush. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
And you sort of automatically put your hands out to save yourself. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
And even though I was... an under manager, if you like, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
I'd never been frightened to use a shovel and I'd fairly horny hands, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:50 | |
and I remember the skin started peeling off like blotting paper. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
I'd only had my first car three weeks before | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
and I thought, "Oh, Christ, how am I going to be able to drive the bloody car?" | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
Bloody hurts, don't it? | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
One of the first jobs, the boys, when they came in the Bessemer at 14 or 15, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:10 | |
was taking the sample from the pitch side to the laboratory for chemical analysis. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:17 | |
And what they used to do was, there's a bent bit of wire, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
maybe about quarter of an inch diameter, and they used to carry it in that, you see. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:28 | |
Well, this little chap George Dickinson - you'll remember George - he wanted a Jimmy Riddle. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:34 | |
So he's standing in behind tin shed at pitch side and he had this bloody thing in his hand | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
and he happened to catch it, and of course he burnt it. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
So he went down to the ambulance station and he said, "Oh, he said I've burnt me pencil." | 0:27:44 | 0:27:50 | |
So they bandaged it up but they didn't leave him a hole at the end! | 0:27:50 | 0:27:56 | |
Who's getting the ale in? We've ran out. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
-I'll go. I'll volunteer. -It's been a warm and thirsty day with the steam machine. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
-Do you drive it? -Eh? -You don't drive, do you? -Oh, aye, I drive it. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
These two don't know how to do that, they can only steer it. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
Keeping them in the dark! | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
-Who does all the bloody polishing? -That's your job! | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Now there's a long drive ahead | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
as Fred and Alf head through the Scottish Borders | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
on their way from West Cumbria to Bo'ness on the Firth of Forth. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
They'll be visiting an iron foundry | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
to find out more about the casting process and the foundryman's trade. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
And, while they're in Scotland, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
Fred will be driving his engine over the Forth Road Bridge. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
Subtitles by Catherine Weston and Duncan Black, BBC Broadcast 2005 | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 |