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Good evening. You know, astronomy is still one of the few sciences

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where amateurs can and do make valuable contributions.

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They have their own telescopes, their own observatories

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and every clear night you see them out there

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making measurements, taking photographs.

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See, all kinds of things professionals don't want to do -

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haven't got time to do.

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This evening, we're going to go to some of the amateur observatories,

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beginning in Northumberland with Dr Chris North.

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This view of night-time Britain seen from space

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shows the light-polluted cities and the dark countryside.

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In this programme, we visit astronomers

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who are observing from both.

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We start our observatory tour in Country Durham,

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in the northeast of England.

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I've come to the little village of Chiltern

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to find one of our best planetary imagers.

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Keith Johnson lives here with his wife Kath

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and he has an impressive set-up in his garden.

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Keith has a reflecting telescope - a nine-inch Schmidt-Cassegrain.

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He well remembers what got him started in astronomy.

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It was 1972 and power cuts opened up a whole new world to a young lad

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hungry to see the stars.

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The first time I actually got the bug of astronomy, erm,

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was when I was 14-year-old.

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At that time, there was miner strikes

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and the power stations had to conserve fuel.

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So, now and again you would get power cuts.

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I went to call on me friend, who just lived over the road from me,

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and he said, "Come here, look through this,"

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and I could just make out a bit of light

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in what turned out to be an eye piece.

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-And I looked through and it was Saturn.

-Wow.

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And they way I would explain it is, that's another world.

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You're looking at another world there.

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And it was the first time I actually looked at it

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and that was it, it just got us.

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I think Saturn's one of the first things I saw through a telescope

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and it's such a hook cos it looks so different though an eyepiece.

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-Yeah.

-Cos it goes from a small pinprick of light

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to this ringed world, it's marvellous.

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Keith likes to look at our planetary neighbours.

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Being relatively close and bright,

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the planets are ideal targets for astronomers in a light-polluted area.

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Mars is a fascinating world, with weather and seasons

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causing changes that can be visible through a modest telescope.

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Here is Syrtis Major,

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a dark volcanic plane created by a long-extinct volcano.

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Another favourite is the gas giant, Jupiter,

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with its ever-changing bands of clouds and famous great red spot.

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Keith also has some fabulous moon images.

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This montage of the phases shows how it changes over the month.

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Even with binoculars, you can see the craters and dark laval planes.

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But with a telescope, you can see features,

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such as the Apennine Mountains, in remarkable detail.

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These ancient volcanoes, some as high as three miles,

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sit on the edge of the Mare Imbrium, a conspicuous lava field.

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The moon, an alien world, which is so close yet so far.

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The cold nights in County Durham are quite a challenge,

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but Keith has found a way of returning to his comfort zone.

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So, Keith, you've got this telescope here

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and I'm used to seeing telescopes on a tripod in people's back gardens'

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but this one's on a plinth.

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Yeah, basically, what it was,

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I wanted to make life easier for myself.

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I'm predominantly into planetary imaging

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and one of the things that I found when I was planetary imaging,

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was to do high-magnification imaging,

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you had to have a very, very accurate polar alignment.

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So, that's making sure

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that the telescope is aligned with the pole star

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so that it tracks the sky as the Earth rotates.

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That's correct. But what I found was,

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it takes that much time to get polar-aligned every night,

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and to feed the cables out for the camera, for the power supply,

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that more often than not

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I'd no sooner get sorted out than the clouds would roll in.

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And then if it was a lovely clear night,

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then there was the added trouble of, around four o'clock in the morning

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when it's bitter cold and you're tired,

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and the thought of having to put everything away again.

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And it's just... Just something you don't want to do,

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which is why a lot of people have observatories.

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Because of light pollution in the area

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and there's not a lot of space, I thought, well,

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it's not going to be practical building an observatory.

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I thought the next best thing I can do is a sort of pedestal

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and have the cables running outside from the conservatory.

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On a bitter cold night, you'd be lucky if you can stand ten minutes

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before the cold's biting through you.

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But in there, where it's nice and warm,

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you're there for as long as you want to be, as long as it's clear.

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Keith also likes to look at things outside our solar system.

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The Orion Nebula is an immense cloud of dust and gas

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around 1,500 light years away.

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The young stars forming at its centre cause the gas to glow,

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but its immense distance means that long-exposure photographs

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are needed to capture the intricate detail.

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Such faint objects can be washed out by light pollution,

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but Keith has found that a friendly word with the council

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helps matters along.

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'I can't help noticing there's a couple of street lamps

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'right outside your house.'

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Do they interfere with your observing?

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They do, but not as bad as what it used to be.

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Right, OK, how did you solve the problem?

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Well, the first thing I did,

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I actually got in touch with the County Council

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and what they are implementing is, throughout the northeast,

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as a cost-cutting exercise as well,

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it to have full cut-off lights, which are cheaper to run.

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The light is beamed straight down,

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it's where the light's supposed to be.

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-None of it goes up into the sky.

-Exactly.

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And they came out, and they had a look,

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and they tilted the lights -

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they tuned the lights away.

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So, it's not perfect, but it's a lot better than what it actually was.

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The other thing that they're going to implement

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is that all the street lights are going to be computerised

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so they can switch individual lights off, or dim them,

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in places where the light isn't necessary.

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In the battle against light pollution,

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Keith has shown that perseverance pays off

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and his magnificent images are proof that, even in urban areas,

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you can do some amazing things.

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We're staying in the northeast of England,

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where there certainly seems to be a cluster of superb astrophotographers.

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It's now onto our next astronomer, who lives in the city of Durham.

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Well, here we are to see Juergen and this is a chap you know, isn't it?

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'Paul and I have come to visit Dr Juergen Schmoll...'

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He's an amazing chap.

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-He's very technical and grinds his own mirrors.

-Oh!

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During the day, Juergen builds astronomical instruments

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for large telescopes, such as the VLT,

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but the night is all his.

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Juergen has a vast collection of telescopes.

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Some like this Ritchey-Chretien, which he has bought and adapted,

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but many he has built himself - like this Newtonian reflector.

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And from his back yard, he takes amazing images

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of just about everything you can think of astronomically.

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I am really keen to see his set-up.

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I can see telescopes... Oh, WOW, look at this! That's amazing, isn't it?

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'Juergen originally came from Germany but he's settled here

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'and loves the north of England.'

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-Ah, Juergen!

-Ah, Pete and Paul!

-Hello!

-Nice to see you.

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-Nice to meet you.

-Yes, yes.

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-What are you doing up here in the frozen wastes of the north?!

-THEY LAUGH

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Yes, observing, you know?

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I didn't bring any telescope with me when I came.

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I said, "Oh, it's only for two years and it's always raining in England."

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-You've noticed?

-Yes, first thing, first thing I came,

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there was a spell of clear sky.

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Jupiter was grinning at me and I had no scope.

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What about this telescope, Juergen,

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cos it looks very large and brand-new?

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What type of telescope is this?

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It is indeed brand-new, I just got it a few weeks ago.

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-Won't touch it then!

-THEY LAUGH

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It's actually a Ritchey-Chretien telescope,

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which is named after two opticians who developed this in 1928

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and lots of professional telescopes are built like this.

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They are quite good - I got a bit addicted to the high-image scale.

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Isn't Ritchey-Chretien the same technology used for the Hubble?

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Yes, it is.

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So, you have your own little Hubble?

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Yes! Oh, yes, yeah, you can say so, yes.

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Juergen has so many wonderful images, it's hard to choose some favourites

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but his star clusters are particularly nice.

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Some are new objects with stars that have formed together,

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such as the Pleiades or the Messier 45,

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or the double cluster in Perseus.

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Others are much older objects, containing many thousands of stars,

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such as the globular clusters M15 and M13.

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-What kind of astronomy are you into?

-Mostly deep-sky astrophotography.

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Do you have any favourite objects that you like to image from?

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For example, the Andromeda Nebula,

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I got a bit addicted to an object called NGC 206,

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in the Andromeda galaxy.

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Oh, yes, star cloud area, isn't it? On one edge of it, yeah.

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I like Juergen's comets, such as Comet Garradd.

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Small, dirty snowballs tumbling through space.

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As they near the sun, the surface evaporates,

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creating a halo and characteristic tail.

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In 2007, Comet Holmes graced our skies

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and underwent a massive outburst,

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which unbelievably created a halo bigger than the sun.

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'Juergen keeps alive an old tradition in astronomy -

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'making your own telescopes.'

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-Do you grind your own mirrors and optics as well?

-Yes.

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I have to say, I always admire people with those sort of skills, cos I'm quite hopeless.

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-You have some mirror-grinding equipment outside, don't you?

-Yes, yes, I do, yes.

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-Can we have a look?

-Yes.

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And my word, that is a big bit of glass, Juergen.

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-Oh, yes, it is, definitely. It's 24 inches.

-It weights a ton!

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That's enormous - 24 inches.

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Yeah, I want to make a 24-inch mirror out of this piece of glass.

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Can you explain to us then,

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how do you turn THIS into a useable telescope mirror.

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Actually, what you have to do is grind the mirror.

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Then you have something called a tool, for example here's a tool,

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and this tool goes on with some abrasive.

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So you put on a little heap of Carborundum, which is an abrasive,

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and you wet it smooth with the wet-grinding process.

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I remember when I made my telescope

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the tool was the same size as the mirror blank.

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-Oh, yeah.

-So is that not the case here?

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So for small mirrors it's the case,

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but when we have bigger mirrors it's just...

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A, it's the cost, because they're quite expensive, mirror blanks.

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-Of course, yes.

-And secondly, you can't drag it over any more

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because the friction gets to much.

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And so what do you do with this, then?

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You put the glass on it, then you start grinding,

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which is actually quite noisy.

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It's like you're scratching the mirror to the right shape.

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And then, once the shape is there,

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you start to get finer abrasives, to get the surface...

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-To get the surface roughness down.

-Once you've got it very fine,

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you've then got to polish it.

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And I love that bit, that's the best bit. I recognise this.

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That's what this is for, is it?

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Yes, the ground mirror looks like this, it's actually...

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It doesn't reflect light, it looks like a milky glass,

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like frosted glass.

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-Yeah.

-And actually, I have a mirror here which looks,

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from the back side, exactly the same.

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But the other side looks different.

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There's no frosting on this.

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Yes, it's now completely reflective. And how do you get there?

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It's actually, you use a tool with some soft material on it,

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which is optical pitch.

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It's a pitch lap. And this pitch lap...

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I'm going to put this on here.

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This pitch lap is made wet

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and pressed on to get it exactly the same shape

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and then you start polishing the mirror.

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You hear no noise doing it, it's very silent.

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It's an odd thing that, I remember.

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And magically, after about an hour or so,

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your mirror starts to get glossy.

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After a few hours the mirror is polished out

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and then you can, for example, focus the sun on it

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and you can project the sun so that you can see this mirror is working.

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I got into a lot of trouble actually, making my pitch lap,

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when I made my mirror,

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because I boiled the pitch up on my mum's stove in a pot.

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-You hooligan, Lawrence!

-And it makes quite a lot of smell, doesn't it?

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Yes, it's very smelly.

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And when you drop some pitch down and you walk it through the...

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-I wasn't popular, no.

-I did not get to the pitch stage.

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When I tried grinding a mirror I did not get to the pitch stage

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-because I managed to break both the mirror and the blank.

-Ooh!

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But then once you've got it polished,

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that's when you send it off to be aluminized.

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Once you have it aluminized,

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and there's a silicon layer on it to protect the aluminium layer,

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it lasts for years.

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'Juergen's first telescope took him two years to make

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'but he has it down to a fine art.

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'His record is making an eight-inch mirror in just 21 days -

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'impressive stuff.'

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It's the feeling,

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once you put the telescope together with your self-made optics.

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and you put it together, look at a planet, or something,

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-and you see it in full glory and you realise it's your optics.

-It is.

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-Feelings I shall never have!

-Well, maybe one day.

-Maybe one day.

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-Juergen, thank you very much.

-Yes, thank you.

-Oh, you're welcome.

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'Back-garden observatories are the backbone of astronomy.

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'Over the years, The Sky At Night has visited a few,

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'so it's back to Patrick for something special from the archives.'

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In 1970, I went to see another of our well-known amateurs,

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Dr Frank Acfield.

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He has his observatory and here's the clip.

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Good evening. Well, as you can see, I'm not in the BBC studio.

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I am, in fact, at Newcastle on Tyne,

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at Frank Acfield's observatory at Forest Hall.

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And we are delighted to have Frank with us

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for this evening's Sky At Night.

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This very neat and efficient-looking dome

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contains a ten-inch reflecting telescope

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and, just to make sure that we all know where we are,

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the latitude and longitude's given on the door.

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'Frank's dome and telescope were all built by his friends

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'just after the war.

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'In those days, enthusiasts made everything by hand -

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'from the mirror to the telescope mount.'

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Yes, Patrick, actually it's made from Ruberoid roofing felt,

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reinforced with wire netting underneath to stop it sagging

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in case of any weight of snow or anything on top of the building.

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Do you find that the dome's easy to turn?

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Yes, once you get it going, Patrick, it's quite easy.

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Look here, you see.

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-Just you have a try.

-Yes.

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That's pretty easy, there's no difficulty there.

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Well, it's a very nice observatory.

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Now let's have a look at the telescope, shall we?

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-Yes, do come and have a look inside.

-Right.

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Well, you've told us about the observatory,

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what about this very fine ten-inch reflector.

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Yes, Patrick, this reflector was made for me

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by Mr Tom Whitham, of Newcastle,

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and he came to me and said he didn't like the mounting I had,

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it didn't fit the lovely observatory,

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would I allow him to make a mounting

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equal to the beautiful building in which it was housed.

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Let's have a look at the mirror.

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That's a very nice mirror indeed.

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Do you always have it aluminized rather than silvered?

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I do, Patrick, yes.

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It's aluminized on the face and anodized on top,

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-so that you can dust it, you know.

-What's the focal length?

-19 inches.

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And there at the bottom of the tube you can see the ten-inch mirror,

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which is the essential part of the whole telescope.

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'Astronomy today uses digital cameras and web cams.

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'Back in the 1970s, Frank used photographic plates,

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'which were extremely delicate and had to be developed by hand.

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'These are some sunspots he imaged just before Patrick arrived.'

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I think you're very wise, too,

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in doing your developing and processing actually on the spot.

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Yes, this is my dark room, Patrick, and what I do is this -

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I have my developer and my hypo, here.

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Then I put my plate into the developer

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and I am able to rock the dishes

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for the required time at the required temperature.

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Once this is done, I can remove them,

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wash the plates and then transfer them into the enlarger, here.

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Then, if you have a picture like this, say, and wish to enlarge it,

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then simply by moving this height, up here...

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..then you can enlarge from a picture like this

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to a picture the size of the table.

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This is one of Frank's pictures of the full moon,

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taken with the ten-inch reflector, of course.

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'Frank contributed a great deal to Astronomy,

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'although nothing now remains of his observatory.

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'But it was the tireless work of dedicated amateurs like Frank

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'which inspired today's generation of astronomers.'

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Next in our observatory tour, we're going to Hexham

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and the light pollution-free rural countryside of Northumberland.

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I've come to visit amateur astronomer Peter Vasey.

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From his back garden, Peter looks over the Pennines

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and has a wonderful view of the southern horizon.

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Quite simply, an astronomer's paradise.

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Peter has an eight-inch reflecting telescope

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and takes all sorts of wonderful images.

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Not only of the popular Messier objects

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but also some more obscure targets.

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Have you ever seen anything as perfect as the Soap Bubble Nebula?

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So, Peter, here we are in rural Northumberland.

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It's a lovely area and at the moment, we've got beautiful sunshine.

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Is that a common occurrence up here, or...?

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-Well, it does happen, occasionally!

-Yeah?

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I'm more interested in the night-time. Having said that,

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you saw me looking through my solar scope

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and we see sunspots and prominences.

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-OK, so you do some solar observing as well?

-Oh, yes indeed, yes,

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when the sun shines - which it does.

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But, of course, night-time is what I really came here for.

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The dark skies and clear southern horizon,

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combined with his little observatory tucked away behind the bushes,

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allow Peter to take pictures of some of the most beautiful objects

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that grace our night skies.

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Here is the Lagoon Nebula,

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a fabulous sea of gas which contains a vast array of astronomical objects.

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Peter also has wonderful images of the Cocoon Nebula

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and the Trifid Nebula.

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It's easy to forget that these objects are many light years across,

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and thousands of light years away.

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More distant still, galaxies are a particular favourite of Peter's.

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-Well, everybody likes M51, don't they?

-Oh, it's wonderful.

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We get a lovely view of it here. It gets quite high in the spring.

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I like NGC 891, that beautiful edge-on galaxy.

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There are some fainter galaxies, more obscure galaxies,

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which aren't well known, but they're a challenge,

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I like to have a go at them, you know?

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Galaxies are island universes, each containing billions of stars.

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They come in all sorts of shapes and sizes.

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From enormous elliptical balls, to grand spiral galaxies.

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They're sometimes found in groups and clusters,

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making for some beautiful arrangements.

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When they get particularly close to each other

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their immense gravitational pull distorts their shapes,

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and it's these oddball galaxies that Peter particularly likes to observe.

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The light has come from such a long way away.

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Those photons have travelled for millions of years to get here

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and either end up their journey on your retina,

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if you're doing it visually,

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seeing a little faint grey blob in your telescope,

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or, of course, on the camera chip, or film,

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where you can integrate it over a long period

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and pick out all the wonderful complexity and intricacy

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of these marvellous things.

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'Peter is fortunate to live in such a dark location,'

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but some astronomers manage to successfully observe

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from the light-polluted cities.

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It's the last of our observatories

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and time to leave the northeast and come down to Southampton.

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I'm here to meet Dr Lilian Hobbs,

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who has a very interesting set-up in her back garden.

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Dr Lilian Hobbs's first passion is astronomy.

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Her second passion is motorbikes,

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touring the world seeing spectacular locations.

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Dr Hobbs has been to Patagonia, in South America,

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Chile, and the roof of the world, the Himalayas.

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Lilian has two observatories.

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The largest one houses her refractor,

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where she does most of her astronomical imaging.

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And like some of our other astronomers,

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she has taken some fabulous images of the galaxies.

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I take a journey down to the bottom of her garden,

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where Lilian keeps her observatories.

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-Hello, Lilian?

-Hello, Paul!

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TWO telescope domes - I'm very impressed!

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Well, this is just the small dome, let me show you my larger dome.

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Oh, yes, please!

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I am very impressed...

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and just a little bit envious.

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This is where all the action happens - in here.

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Oh, this is where I lose my head!

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Well, Lilian, thanks for inviting us

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to one of two magnificent observatories you have here.

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Why don't you tell us what got you into astronomy?

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-Well, I first got into astronomy during the Apollo era.

-Ah!

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I remember watching the Apollo landings

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and my brother also had a great interest in astronomy as well.

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So, as soon as I was old enough, I joined my local astronomy club

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-and used to dream of owning a really nice telescope.

-Yes.

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And, so, that was really how it started.

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And what was your first telescope?

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My first telescope was a nice three-inch refractor

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and I just used to go out, look at the moon.

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I did take my camera and I've still got a paperweight

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with my first photograph of the moon that I took.

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Good Lord, first photo?

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I've never even managed to take a photograph of the moon

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so you've got one up on me!

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Well, I think it's fair to say you've upgraded since then.

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I've upgraded a little over the years.

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Then you got hold of this, this is a fine telescope.

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This is a seven-inch refractor.

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No, I must confess, there were a few more telescopes before this one.

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-Good lord!

-So, I worked my way up, really, over the years.

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Lilian loves galaxies.

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You can see them in binoculars but with Lilian's telescope,

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they look magnificent.

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The many billions of stars are resolved beautifully.

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This is M51, or the Whirlpool Galaxy,

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which is in the constellation of Canes Venatici, or the Hunting Dogs.

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These are two galaxies caught in a gravitational embrace.

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The serene beauty conceals the fact that the smaller galaxy

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is being ripped apart.

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Who knows, perhaps in one of the stars, in one of these galaxies,

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there may be a planet with an astronomer looking back at us.

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-Is this your main observatory, then?

-This is my main observatory,

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so this is an eight-foot fibreglass dome.

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-It's quite sturdy.

-It's, yeah, it's very sturdy.

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It's survived a few storms!

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And, in here, what do you mostly do?

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-Well, in here, what I like to do is I like to take photographs.

-Right.

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All right? Just nothing serious,

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although I've got some very serious kit, but it's just for fun.

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I love to image, sort of, galaxies, nebulas, things like that.

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-One of my favourites is the Horsehead Nebula.

-Ah, yes.

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That's very hard to pick up visually.

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It's very hard to pick up visually. In fact, even here, with the scope,

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I find that I get a very faint image after about a minute,

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so I know that I'm in the right vicinity,

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and then it'll take me about an hour to image the Horsehead.

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-Apart from the Horsehead?

-The Flame Nebula, as well.

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I like to do that with my small refractor

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cos it's nice and wide-field and I can capture that in.

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'The Flame and Horsehead Nebula in Orion is made of dense gas and dust,

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'which is lit by the new stars forming within it.

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'The horse-head shape is an optical effect

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'and is just a patch where the dust is so dense

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'no starlight can be seen.

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'Spotting shapes in space can become an astronomical pastime.

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'Lilian's image of the Pelican Nebula is jaw-dropping.

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'This is the Veil Nebula and to the left is the Witch's Broom.

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'Simply magical.'

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So, what about some of the objects?

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So we have in Sagittarius, we have a lot of interesting deep-sky objects,

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like globular clusters, do you do anything with them?

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I do. One of the problems I do have is anything that's a bit low,

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cos sometimes the garden might need a bit of trimming -

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it's often called the Sagittarius cut

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if it's really low!

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-Middle of the night?

-Middle of the night, yes.

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Get the old head-torch out

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-and trim the bushes off a little bit cos it's in the way!

-I can imagine!

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But I have gone after some of the galaxies in Leo, for example.

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Actually, that's a good, fun thing to do, I find.

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To do the wide field and just see how many of those galaxies I can pick up.

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Does that mean the Virgo cluster, for example?

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-You've got many, many galaxies in there.

-Yes.

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I love seeing those long-exposure photographs.

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-The whole field is just full of galaxies.

-It's just full of them!

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Have you managed to count how many you've been able to pick up?

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-No, cos I keep losing track, actually.

-Good lord.

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Do you ever do anything else other than deep sky?

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-Have you tackled planets?

-Yep, I love to do planets as well.

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In fact, it's one of the things I encourage youngsters,

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when I go out and give talks, and I say to them,

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Jupiter's a great target, because it rotates.

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-And it rotates quite quickly.

-Very quickly, yeah.

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-And also, you don't need a guided scope for it.

-No.

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So, yes, if there's no decent deep-sky objects.

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Or sometimes, like now, when the weather's not very good,

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and I can only get a short observing spell when the planets are up.

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-The planets are great for that.

-The planets are great.

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-And the moon as well.

-And the moon is great.

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In fact, I also... I got into doing quite a lot of lunar observations,

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as it were, or lunar imaging,

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purely because the weather was so bad and at least you could come out and do something.

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That's the great thing about astronomy. There's always something.

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There's always something that you can have a look at in the night sky.

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Lilian, thank you for inviting us to your observatory.

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-You're very welcome!

-It's a pleasure to be here.

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-Thank you very much.

-Thank you!

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This recent image of Jupiter,

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with its stormy belts and vivid red colouring

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shows the upheaval in the North Equatorial belt.

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Jupiter is a turbulent planet

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and all you need to see these Earth-size storms for yourself

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is a small telescope.

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Although we have seen some amazing telescopes,

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you could enjoy looking at the night sky with a Mark One Eyeballs

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or a pair of binoculars.

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Here is some advice Patrick gave back in 1970

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about how to get started in astronomy.

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It's as relevant today as it was back then.

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You know, I'm asked many times every week

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how one starts taking up astronomy as a hobby

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and I always give the same answer.

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You don't, in fact, need any optical equipment whatsoever

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and you certainly don't need a large and expensive telescope.

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And my advice is,

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that if you want to start taking a real interest in astronomy,

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The very first step is to buy a star map,

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which only costs a shilling or two,

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and then go out and learn your way around the sky,

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learn your constellations.

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And this doesn't really take very long

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and the stars become so very much more interesting

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when you know which is which.

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If one's only got a very limited amount of money

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to spend on equipment,

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and this certainly applies to most of us,

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then there's a straightforward choice

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between a very small telescope or a pair of binoculars.

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And I'm going to give my own views here,

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with the full knowledge that they're open to challenge.

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I personally wouldn't pay a great deal of money

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for a very small astronomical telescope,

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because it's going to have a small field

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and it's not going to have any real advantage over good binoculars.

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And, personally, I wouldn't recommend

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spending a great deal of money upon any astronomical telescope

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with an aperture smaller than three inches for a refractor,

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or six inches for a reflector.

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Smaller telescopes than that can be got and they are quite nice.

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But personally, I'd rather go in for binoculars.

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And binoculars are going to show you a great deal.

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They'll show you the craters of the moon,

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they'll show you the four big moons of Jupiter,

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they'll show you the phases of Venus

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and all kinds of star fields, double stars and star clusters.

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Binoculars come in various kinds.

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This particular pair happens to be 8 x 30.

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That means it has a magnification of eight times

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and the object glasses are 30mm in diameter.

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That gives you quite a nice broad field.

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And if you go on and get a pair of, 20 x 70, or something like that,

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which is admittedly going to cost more money,

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then, really, it is a good idea

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to fix up some kind of improvised mounting,

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because the field is going to be small

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and it's not going to be easy to hold them steady.

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But again, this is a matter of personal preference.

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It's this good advice that got so many of us started in astronomy.

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Thank you, Patrick.

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There is so much the amateur can do

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and I believe astronomy is the best of all amateur hobbies.

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Next month, back to Mars.

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The probe Curiosity will have landed by then

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and we are looking forward to seeing what it has to tell us.

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So, until then, goodnight.

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