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Good evening. In this programme, we're going to talk once again | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
about the giant planets Jupiter and Saturn. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:40 | |
We've learned so much in the last few years. Chris Lintott. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
We certainly have and we've got a particularly exciting new mission. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
ESA, the European Space Agency, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
has decided its next big thing in space is going to be a mission | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
called Juice, that's going to go to Jupiter and explore its moons. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
We've got two of the people who made Juice happen, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Michelle Dougherty from Imperial College London, and Leigh Fletcher from Oxford. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
-Congratulations on being selected. -Thank you very much. -Michelle, what's Juice going to do? | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
OK, as you say, it was recently chosen and so the plan now is we will go into a study phase. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
We will be launched in 2022. It will take eight years to get there. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
And so reach the Jupiter system in 2030. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
We'll spend at least three and a half years within the system and orbiting the moons. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
You may still be doing The Sky At Night. I sadly won't. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
Well, that remains to be seen. Which moons do you go to first? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
We will fly past Europa first. We'll have flybys over Europa. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
We will then have a Callisto phase which will be interesting, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
not only because we're going to be looking at Callisto, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
but we're going to be coming out of the equatorial plane. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
That will allow us to get into regions we haven't seen before. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
And then we will move to Ganymede and we'll spend nine months orbiting | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
around Ganymede and we will end the mission by crashing on the surface. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
This is the first time a probe will have orbited a moon of one of the giant planets. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
-Why are the moons so important? -The Galilean moons, in particular, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
each one has a very different unique environment that in its own right | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
would be worth studying, but the point of Juice, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
the idea behind the mission, is to compare the conditions | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
that we find on those moons - Europa, Ganymede and Callisto. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Most of the moons of the outer solar system are made of ice. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
That's simply because at the very cold temperatures | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
of the outer solar system, water exists in its frozen form. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
So it makes up the large proportion of these moons. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
The tantalising thing about these three moons | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
is that there is a source of energy that causes the ice to melt to become liquid water. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
We believe that a liquid ocean exists beneath the surface | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
of these three icy moons. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
That has huge implications for the potential for these moons | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
to be habitable. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
That's not that they do support life right now, but it's that there is | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
the chance or the potential for life to exist on these icy worlds. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
Michelle, what's this source of energy that keeps | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
-some of the ice liquid? -In the environment around Jupiter, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
most of the energy comes from the fast rotation of Jupiter. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
But as far as the energy sources of the interior of the moons | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
is concerned, we think they're still hot in the interior | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
because of the tidal forces between Jupiter and the moon. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
-As they go round Jupiter, they're pushed and pulled by its very powerful gravity. -Yes. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
And so that's what allows the interior of the moons | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
to still be warm, but there are two other things you need | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
if you're going to look for life. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
You need there to be complex organic compounds | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
and you also need the environment to be stable over quite a long period of time. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:47 | |
You need water, you need heat, you need stability and you need chemicals. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
-Is it ordinary water. H2O, like ours? -We think it is, yes. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
We also think that its conductivity, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
the amount of salt we have in the water, is probably similar to ours. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
But we're postulating from the observations we got from the Galilean spacecraft. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
We need to get a spacecraft that will orbit around Ganymede, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
make observations on the surface, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
but also understand what's underneath. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
These four ingredients Michelle was talking about, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Juice will be able to study and look | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
and so we'll finally be able to answer some of these questions | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
that Galileo, back in the 1990s through to 2003, they left open. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
Planetary scientists since have been trying to resolve some of these questions. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
Let's go back to Europa. You talked about recent activity on the surface, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
but how recent are we talking about? Is this something that's happening now? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
No. People have gone back to the Galileo observations and they've compared them | 0:04:41 | 0:04:48 | |
to observations that we have of the Greenland Ice Shelf. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
You could almost convince yourself you were looking at the same thing. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
The Greenland Ice Shelf changes over, what, thousands of years, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
so we should expect that sort of timescale on Europa. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
One of the interesting things about these regions of potentially | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
recent activity, recent on a geologic timescale, so long periods of time, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
is there may be regions of the crust which are thinner than elsewhere, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
where you've got an exchange of say energy | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
from the interior of this moon, up towards the icy surface. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
So these fractured chaotic terrains are actually really | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
tantalising targets for future spacecraft like Juice, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
especially if it has the capabilities to probe deep through | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
and beneath that icy crust. If we go for the thinner regions, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-we might get access to that icy ocean beneath. -We come to Ganymede. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
-The largest satellite in the entire solar system. -That's right. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
-Juice is going to go into orbit. -That's right. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
We thought long and hard about whether we wanted | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
to orbit around Europa or orbit around Ganymede and in fact, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
Ganymede is more interesting, I think. As we know, it's the largest moon in the solar system. | 0:05:53 | 0:06:00 | |
It also is the only moon in the solar system that has an internal planetary field. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:06 | |
-It's got a dynamo field inside. -Just like the Earth has. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
It also has a magnetic field that's induced by currents | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
that are flowing in the ocean underneath, and so there's a mix | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
of these different fields that we need to try and understand. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
-You care because they're telling you about the interior. -Yes. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
What do the surfaces of these outer moons look like? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
You move the largest moon, Ganymede, out to Callisto. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
Callisto has a very ancient and battered terrain. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
We think it's a remnant of the very earliest bombardments that | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
took place within the solar system. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
So this, if you like, is a much more inactive moon. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Some would say a dead moon, that isn't having resurfacing processes taking place. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
Whereas on Ganymede, there's a higher probability that we might | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
see the evidence that activity has occurred in geologically recent history. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
In fact, if you have... Ground based observers are able to resolve contrasts across Ganymede | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
and there's an ancient dark terrain called Galileo Regio, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
which is visible in some of the best amateur images that we see. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
Especially when Juice finally gets to Jupiter, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
we'll have a huge amateur community there along with us, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
observing the same features as the spacecraft is seeing up close and personal. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
That's going to be one to watch. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
Is this then a common way for moons in the solar system to be? | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
In all three, they're icy, they have underground oceans. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
That must be telling us something about what's likely in the solar system. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
Yes. That's one of the reasons we want Juice to go to the... | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
It's an unanswered question. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
What we want to try and do with the three moons | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
we're going to focus on is get an understanding about why | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
they're different, try and understand what the heat source is, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
we think we know what the heat source is, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
but why is it having a different effect on all three of the moons? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
But also, really try and understand | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
whether there are environments in our solar system | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
where the conditions are there, so that life might be able to form. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
If we can understand that at Ganymede, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
go into orbit around Ganymede and spend a lot of time | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
looking at it, it will allow us to then describe how we think | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
some of the bodies outside of our solar system might have formed | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
and some of the extra solar work that is being done as well. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
If you can find planets in the Goldilocks Zone, around their star, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
not too hot, not too cold, they may have icy moons as well. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
And this is a revisiting of that Goldilocks hypothesis. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
The idea that you have temperatures that are just right here | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
on Planet Earth for life to have existed. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
These icy moons of the solar system, which traditionally, you don't think of as being part of... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
-Cos they're far too cold. -Far too cold, way too distant, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
but actually they might have these four ingredients. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
The stability with time, the energy source that's required | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
and the supply of materials in a liquid water environment. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
Be nice to have some toothed fish wandering around as well. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
I'm not sure if we can actually promise that's going to happen. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
Not yet. Well, we've talked a great deal about Jupiter. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
-On now to Saturn and its family of moons. -Yes. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
Cassini is orbiting around Saturn. Two of the moons are interesting, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
partly because we can compare them to the moons of Jupiter. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
And that is Enceladus and Titan. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
We know both of those moons have got bodies of liquid underneath | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
the surface and so by learning more about Titan and Enceladus now, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
we can feed that information | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
to what we're going to learn with Juice at Jupiter. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
Shall we start with Enceladus? That's the icy moon. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
So that seems closer to the Jovian examples, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
but Enceladus is a weird place. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
The Fountains of Enceladus are the weirdest things in the solar system. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
-I think they are too, but it's weird in a fascinating way. -We like weird! | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
But it's very clear that there is an energy source | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
at Enceladus that is keeping the interior heated. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
We know that the water ice has become liquid and we know that | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
because water vapour is escaping. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
We see amazing pictures of these. You detect them with other instruments as well. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:15 | |
We've flown through the plume, we've been able to measure | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
the amount of organics and dust and water vapour in the plume. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
The really interesting thing from my perspective | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
is the amount of activity is changing over time. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
It's very clear there are internal processes taking place, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
which are changing from one week to the next. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
So is this a special time now that we're able to view Enceladus with this happening? | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
Or is this something that could have been happening over hundreds of thousands of years in the past? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
I think it must have been happening for a long period of time. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
It's now very clear that Enceladus and its plumes is the source | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
of the earring and we know that the earring has been in existence... | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
-One of the outer of Saturn's rings? -Yes. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
It's one of the rings that you can't visually see. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
We don't see anything like this on any of Jupiter's small moons. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
-Why just Enceladus? -Possible discoveries that we might make | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
when we have Europa flybys with Juice is maybe we will see something | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
at Europa, but it's very clear that Enceladus is unique, in the sense | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
it's small, it has this internal heat source that we didn't expect | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
to be there, and it's spewing out a large amount of water vapour. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
We know that water vapour is salty, in some sense, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
-or it's not just pure water. -That's right. -We know that because you've flown through it very bravely. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:37 | |
I don't know if they would want to do it again! The closest flyby we had was 25km above the surface. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:43 | |
And it was very clear after it happened that the mission planners will not do it again. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:49 | |
Because the mag boom sticks off from the side of the spacecraft | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
and the spacecraft moved a little bit more | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
than they thought it would, as we flew through the plume. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
They don't want the spacecraft to tumble. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
-It was a really rocky ride on the way through. -I wonder why not(!) | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
But nonetheless, from this brave, plucky adventure | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
through the Fountains of Enceladus, it's like something out of sci-fi! Through the Fountains of Enceladus! | 0:12:09 | 0:12:15 | |
We discovered the water is salty, it has other material in there. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
People have suggested that means there's a rocky core. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
There might be a rocky core. We don't know. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
A lot of work has been done at the moment, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
trying to model what the interior actually looks like. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
To understand it best, we'd need to go into orbit and that | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
is difficult to do because the gravitational field of Enceladus | 0:12:35 | 0:12:41 | |
is small, you need a huge amount of fuel to be able to get into orbit. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
So we're going to have to make do with lots more flybys that we have | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
of Enceladus by the Cassini craft. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
-Let's turn now to Titan, unlike any of the others. -It has an atmosphere. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
-And an interesting surface. -Yes. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
We haven't really got to see the surface until very recently. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
The atmosphere is made up of ethane and methane. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
It's almost like a very smoggy place, so you can't see through it. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
It's only been with some of the instruments on board Cassini | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
we've been able to see through the atmosphere and onto the surface. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
One of the initial disappointments with the Titan observations | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
was that we expected to see lots of liquid on the surface. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
We didn't, for years. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
And it's only very recently that the first signatures | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
of some type of liquid on the surface was seen. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
We think that's probably | 0:13:36 | 0:13:37 | |
because no rain had fallen for a long period of time | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
and it was only after rain had fallen we got to see it. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
We do see evolving weather through the Cassini mission. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
We've seen clouds come and go on Titan. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
We know there's something special about the north pole of Titan. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
Large bodies of standing liquid, some combination of methane | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
and ethane and various hydrocarbons up there. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
-Certainly not water. -No. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
One of the closest comparisons is like the liquid natural gas | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
sort of thing. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
It's a fascinating region and the first time in planetary exploration | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
where we can really talk about one day exploring an ocean | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
on a surface and sailing a boat on the surface of another moon. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
What strikes me from some of the shots, from Huygens, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
the probe that landed on the surface, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
you could see what looked like river valleys. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
A very easy landscape to read. It looked very Earth-like. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
Very cold, of course. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
We're talking about Titan | 0:14:40 | 0:14:41 | |
because we were talking about worlds with oceans beneath the surface. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
Is that the same sort of model that we have for Titan? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
Or is the liquid confined to the surface? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
No, there have been some radar observations of Titan | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
which seem to imply there is a body of liquid underneath the surface. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:04 | |
We're hoping with the magnetic field instrument to be able | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
to measure induced currents that are flowing in that ocean. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
But we can't get close enough. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
Because Titan has a dense atmosphere, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
because we've got the boom sticking off the side, the mission planners | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
don't want to get us closer than about 950km | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
because as the atmosphere gets denser, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
the spacecraft could begin to tumble. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
So we hope we will get some observations of induced currents, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
but we aren't sure we'll be able to do it. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
And we want to keep the spacecraft alive until it goes into its polar orbits. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
We've talked about some of Saturn's moons. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Let's now talk about the ringed planet itself. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
There have been exciting times in Saturn recently. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
Back in 2010, Cassini saw this gigantic spike | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
in the amount of lightning emission coming from the planet, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
showing there was a gigantic thunderstorm evolving. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
This thunderstorm grew to be what we describe as planetary in scale, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
like a single Earth storm enveloping the entire latitude circle. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
Cassini was very lucky to be there to see it. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
That thunderstorm lasted from the end of 2010 | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
through to the middle of 2011 when we thought things were starting | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
to die down, the lightning strikes were dying away, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
and the churning convective activity of the storm had seemed to subside. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:34 | |
But it's not over. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
Cassini is still tracking the remnants of this particular storm. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
It had an effect on the atmosphere really high up | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
that can only been seen at infrared wavelengths of light | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
-and the storm is still raging. -At infrared, you're detecting heat. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
This is energy that's being injected into the upper layers | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
of the atmosphere. That's why you see it glowing. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
On Earth, you fly in a plane, you try to get above these storm cells | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
to avoid all the turbulence and bumping that are inherent. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
On Saturn, we didn't we really expect the same sort of things to be taking place. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
You have this huge region of hot, heated gas, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:19 | |
many hundreds of kilometres higher up than those storm clouds. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
The storm that's happening down at depth is having a huge effect | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
on the atmosphere hundreds of kilometres higher up. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
We've never seen that anywhere in the solar system before. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
It's exciting to be tracking this. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
And we're seeing it as heat energy emitted by the planet Saturn | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
with Cassini's instruments. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
Why do you think the atmospheres of Jupiter and Saturn are so different? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
When you look at Jupiter, you're seeing right down to the region where the clouds condense. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
You're seeing the fluffy white ammonia clouds | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
and possibly the ammonium hydrogen sulphide clouds. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
On Saturn, above those clouds, there are haze particles. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
The haze is so thick it reflects the light before the light gets down. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
-It's almost like smog. -Exactly. A bit like with Titan. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
You can't see the surface because of all the smoggy hazy stuff. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
Saturn, you can't see the cloud because of the smoggy hazy stuff. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
Why are they different? Why does Saturn have this smog and Jupiter not? | 0:18:22 | 0:18:28 | |
There's a difference in size between these two planets. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
It means that the gravitational acceleration on the two planets | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
-is very different. -The pull of gravity. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
All the cloud decks on Saturn are more spread out with altitude. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
On Jupiter, they're more localised and squashed together. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
The amount of a particular material, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
say it's methane or ammonia or hydrogen sulphide available | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
to form a cloud is very different. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
The thing that makes Jupiter have that red colour, we think, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
has got something to do with phosphorus. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
On Saturn, that phosphorus is locked away, deep in the interior. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
It isn't able to get up to cause the red colouration of the clouds. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
It's the difference in size that causes such great big differences | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
in the hazes and the chemistry at work within these atmospheres. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
We've been talking about Juice. You've got a lot of work to do before you get to launch. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
You've got lots of time off between launch and getting to Jupiter, I'm sure. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
What do you think? If I had to force you all to choose one really big question, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
either Jupiter or Saturn or their moons, to answer, what would it be? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
I know what you're going to go for. You'll say Enceladus. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
Yes. The Fountains of Enceladus. These fascinate me. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
I want to know about the rings. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
I want to know how long lived Saturn's rings are. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
I want to know how long a day lasts on Saturn. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
We still don't know exactly what the rotation rate of Saturn is. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
-But you've got a probe orbiting it. -I know. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
But because it's not a solid surface | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
-and there isn't something on the surface that we can follow around... -No Greenwich Meridian. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:10 | |
The observations we make in the magnetic field shows | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
it's around 10.7 hours, but if you're in the northern hemisphere, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
it's different to when you're in the southern hemisphere. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
That's why the end of mission when we get really close in will answer those questions. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
It's a fundamental thing. How fast Saturn rotates determines how we map features on it. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
And we don't know it. You can save your embarrassment by discovering that, what about you? | 0:20:30 | 0:20:36 | |
The question I'd like to have answered is why is the great red spot the colour red. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
We don't know what the chemical is that causes it to be red in colour. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
I hope that Juice will have the answer. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
We've certainly learnt a great deal from the probes. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
There's much more to be learned. I suspect that in ten years, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
we'll have altered our ideas quite considerably. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
Thank you all very much. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:00 | |
Now to Selsey Beach, where Pete and Paul are going to tell us something to look forward to. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:08 | |
-We've come down to this incredibly bleak beach... -It is a bit! | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
..to talk about the things we can see in the night sky | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
over the next couple of months. There are some interesting things. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
There are nice gentle things which are easy to see. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
If the clouds were out of the way and it was a bit later at night, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
after the sun had gone down, this is the season where you can see | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
a phenomena known as noctilucent clouds. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
-Have you ever seen them? -I haven't. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
I know they can get very bright, very powerful. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
We ought to explain what they are. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
They're basically really high altitude clouds, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
much higher than normal clouds we've got up here. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
In the summer months, going through from late May into early August, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
as the sun goes below the horizon, there's a period when the light | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
from the sun can't illuminate these clouds. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
But if the sky is clear and you've got noctilucent clouds there, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
they're high enough to be able to reflect sunlight. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
Even though the sun is below the horizon, the clouds are shining away | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
at night, which is why they're called night shining clouds. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
That's what noctilucent means. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-From what I've seen, they can change as well. -They are amazing. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
I've seen loads of noctilucent clouds here. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
They sort of glow with an eerie electric blue. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
That's the best way of describing them. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
They look like a sort of network, a fine detailed network of clouds. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
The way to look for them is to wait for the sun to go down, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
a couple of hours after sunset, look in the north-west and if you can | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
see some glowy clouds, keep an eye on them, they could be noctilucent. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
Also in the morning, a few hours before the sun comes up in the north-east. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
If you get a really bright display, as we have had a few years back, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
they will persist all the way through the night. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
They're on the edge of the twilight glow you can see to the north. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
-I'll hopefully get to see some this season. -Another thing is they're very photogenic. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:11 | |
There are lots of beautiful photos to see on our Flickr site. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
If you don't know the address, you can go on to: | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
The details are on there. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
If you get any photos of them, and they could occur at any time | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
from late May through to early August, then do send them in. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
We also have another interesting event on July 15th. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
This is the occultation of Jupiter by the moon. It's not visible everywhere though. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
This is actually quite an interesting event. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
Jupiter will pass really close to the northern edge of the moon. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
Right down in the south-east is the best view. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
As you move up the country, you start to see less covering Jupiter. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
In the Midlands, it's what's known as a grazing occultation. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
Jupiter will appear to just pass over the top. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
You can catch Jupiter passing the mountains and valleys on the edge of the moon. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
That would make a lovely shot. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
Start observing from about 2:30 BST onwards. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
I hope it's a lot warmer than it is now. It can't be cloudy for all of these events. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:21 | |
-Hope we get something interesting. -Definitely. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
Let's begin our News Notes with Mars. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
And there's an amazing probe, Opportunity, starting up again. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
It's had eight years on the surface of Mars, but for the Martian winter, it's been stationary. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:42 | |
There isn't enough solar power in northern winter to give it enough power to drive its wheels. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
But it's now started moving again. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
It'll continue its journey around the rim of Endeavour Crater, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
which is a much larger crater than it's been to before. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
And the terrain there is much older. That's why it's there. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
It did this massive trek across the surface to get to this point, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
so we could read off billions of years of Martian history. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
Before it went into its shutdown, it found a place | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
called Homestake, which had this bright material on the surface. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
Turned out to be gypsum, which we know was deposited in reasonably warm water. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
This was a lake or a sea, probably a nice temperature to go swimming in. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
We now know that this was last underwater billions of years ago. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:29 | |
We're really getting to ancient Martian history. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
Next, in the long term, Opportunity will continue its exploration | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
of the crater, working its way around the edge. Probably too steep to go in at any point. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:42 | |
Its immediate objective is more of this gypsum that's nearby. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
We can see if Homestake was unusual or whether we need to go elsewhere. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
How long will it last? We still don't know. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
We come to Vesta, the brightest of the four largest asteroids. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
Visited at the minute by the Dawn spacecraft, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
which has just been given a few extra months at Vesta | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
to finish exploring this wonderful little world. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
There's some fabulous movies that have been put together. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
These are computer animations but with real data from Dawn. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
-They're spectacular. -They're showing us the grooves around Vesta. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
We're not sure how they were created. Something to do with its violent past. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
It's clear from the shape, it's got an enormous impact basin near its south pole. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
We know that impact basin is relatively young, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
a couple of billion years. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
And mapping the surface of Vesta. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Its southern hemisphere is different to its northern hemisphere. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
Dawn is going to be there until August this year, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
before it moves on its way to Ceres. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
-The most famous feature that Dawn's seen so far is the Snowman. -Oh, yes! | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
This is over the middle of those craters that make up the Snowman. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
This gives you a real sense of the terrain of Vesta, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
what it would be like to be wandering across the surface. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
-I'd love to try! -We have to finish News Notes with at least one beautiful picture. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
My favourite this month is from the European Southern Observatory | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
at La Silla in Chile. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
This image of Centaurus A. A nearby active galaxy. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
You can see the dust disc warped in the centre. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
And then the galaxy extending out | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
and it's just an absolutely stunning image. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
Centaurus A one of the most fascinating galaxies in our local neighbourhood. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
It's 13 million light years away. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
It's got a massive black hole in its centre with jets coming out of it. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
In the top left, you can see some filaments of gas | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
which are linked to those jets of material | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
we see normally in X rays and radio waves. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
Centaurus A in the past has swallowed up another galaxy. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
It's been a cannibal. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
That's what the warped disc in the centre is, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
the remains of this smaller galaxy that got swallowed up. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
-Pity we can't see it from here. -Yes, but we can enjoy the image. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:06 | |
We can do. And here it is. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
There's so much we're learning. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
Chris and Chris, thank you very much. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Next month, we're going to talk about the inner solar system and of course the Transit of Venus. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:21 | |
Until then, good night. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
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