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Birthplace of British submarines and host of the FA Cup third round tie

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between Barrow AFC and Rochdale. Not quite per thousand non-leagues under

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the sea but it should be a cracker. Stand-by to close. Prepare the

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surface. Time for Football Focus. A weekend for the dreamers. And who

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knows where and when those dreams might end?

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# In dreams, I walk with you. # In dreams, I talk to you.

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# In dreams, you're mine all of the time.

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# We are together in dreams, in dreams.

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Good afternoon, we managed to get off that submarine and here we are

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in a row for third round weekend. I'm not sure we would dreams this

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season, but there is something beautiful romantic about this

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weekend, even the drizzle is beautiful. This is going to be our

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home for the entirety of Football Focus, we will meet some locals and

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have a look around and all this on the way. We are behind-the-scenes at

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the lowest ranked side left in the competition. Without doubt is the

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biggest game in our history. It's something we should all be proud of.

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Trevor Sinclair has been to see the managerial siblings behind the

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resurgence of Lincoln. We have the mad dog of easterly going back to

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Bradford. After me, supported me, it's good to be emotional. And all

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the action from last month where if you can bear it, West Ham fans. We

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should be inside the home of the bluebirds, featuring all five of the

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non-league sides left, and we will do it all in the presence of this

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lot, afternoon! Here they are, a beret of bad reviews, prepared for

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the FA Cup. That's quite unwelcome! That's the best reception you ever

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got from anywhere! Mark Lawrenson and Kevin Kilbane, everyone! Kevin,

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I am surprised they have given you a warm welcome because they don't like

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your family around here! I was having a chat, my brother played for

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Lancaster, he has caused a bit of aggro, there you go! Despite that,

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you played here with Preston. Against the reserves, got kicked to

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absolutely you know what! Welcome back! It's a great weekend in the

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football calendar. It's fantastic, third round in the FA Cup, and we

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have been legally entertained downstairs, no bacon butties,

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though, I have to say. Wait till they see the chairman afterwards!

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Whole town is geared to this match. Can you sniff and upset somewhere? I

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will be looking at Preston North End, but you're looking at

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Stourbridge, Sutton as well, and of course here today, the home tie is

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not all the clubs want and Rochdale won't fancy it. Burton at winning at

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Watford, that's a possibility, unit had me like I was from another

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planet there! I'm always interested in what you have got to say! Barrow

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are in the National League. Let's get out the football pyramid graphic

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out, always helpful. We start off in the Midlands. We are

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on the Trail of a couple of the FA Cup's non-league survivors have been

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cause an upset this weekend. First, the West Midlands, where the lowest

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ranked club left our pairing for their first ever appearance in the

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third round. -- are preparing. Not being honest with me, I caught up

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with you in the last grand committee will expect to see my ugly face

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again? Course I did! I told you last time. You realise that I'll

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interview was just so I could stop at the bar and get a famous bag of

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Black Country pork scratching. Last season, how many banks did you get

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through? I think Dan got three! He still owes us the two bags of

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scratchings. I'll have a word with him! You experienced some highs as a

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player, West Brom, did being a manager match the throne he got as a

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player? I can say honestly, being part of the club reaching the third

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round of the FA Cup, outweighs anything I achieved as a player,

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without a doubt it's the biggest game in the club's history,

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something we should feel immensely proud of. Not going to wear those?

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Yet! I think I have used them in that last FA Cup. FA Cup in the last

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15 years! Which is the plan today? This is the last session before you

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head off to become the? It'll be nice and relaxed, bringing them in,

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a lot of media attention and players are perhaps don't get spoken to by

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the press and TV. It's fantastic to them. Hopefully they will get that

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reward now. Go and sort that passing out! Howley times have you watched

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your winning goal back? -- how many times? I would say at least ten to

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20 times! Nothing like it, the best feeling

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I've ever had in my life. Did you make it into your lecture next

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morning? I tried to do but seeing as I didn't get to sleep till half

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three, not because I was partying but because of the adrenaline! Get

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in there, you have gotten your call! As claims to fame go, yours is not

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bad. My grandad when the FA Cup as a player and manager, one of the

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biggest upset in FA Cup history, when Wimbledon beat Liverpool. We're

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talking of course about Bobby Gould. It's an unbelievable thing to have

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in the family. It is awesome, to look back of the stories of the

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Crazy Crazy Gang, it's pretty fascinating, one of the most

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exciting period in my grandad's life. You are putting your stamp on

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football history as well. It's nice to, hopefully our pictures will be

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on the likes of the lads are in there. There's only one downside,

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the closer I am to you you have a little bit... You have his bushy

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eyebrows! It's obviously a family legacy. Keep those in check! I have

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to make sure I cut them every day. Plenty more from Stourbridge, if you

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are just joining us, we live from Barrow, who take on Rochdale in the

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third round of the FA Cup today. I did pay for those pork scratching

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is, I need a clear that up, if somebody is taking bulky scratching

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pies! Here we are in the home team dugout. Can you get in? One of the

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many reasons I will never be a manager! I was just saying, what can

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you see from here? Probably why they spend most of their time out there!

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Footballing families, we saw Matt Gould, his grandfather is Bobby

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Gould, Jonathan Gould, who played for Coventry, Celtic and Preston, if

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you could reach the fourth round that would be some family legacy,

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isn't it? It's fantastic. I know Kevin has an amazing stat about him.

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He has been telling me for an hour! Stourbridge are the most successful

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FA Cup team over the last eight years, they have won 28 games in

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that period. It does tell you, they do know what they are doing. With

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that comes great confidence. They hadn't been in the first round until

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2009 and since then, six out of the eight years... Don't ruin your stat!

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Since 2009 they have had great success in the FA Cup. But also,

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it's the finance, that aspect of it, it keeps clubs going. Barrow are

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trying to get out of the National League and if they could get a

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positive result and get even a replay, another game, its massive

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for them. Cash in the covers. Stourbridge take on Wycombe, it's a

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three division jump, that can be significant. They would have wanted

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a bettered for, we all know that, but it's certainly a game that they

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would expect a try and get at them, see if they can put Wycombe under

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pressure, but it's a difficult draw for them, particularly the way that

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Wycombe are going themselves. The first team in there are major the

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city who played West Ham United last night and it was a little one way,

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it's safe to say. Commentator Makro the start of the

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road to Wembley and one of the biggest will go no further than

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this. That was a risky one and it is a penalty for City. Here comes a

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Yaya Toure, emphatic penalty. What a goal that is! 34 magister city! Yaya

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Toure has turned it in, and Aguero celebrates. In two John Stones. West

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Ham zero, magister city five. The little bit foggy here, we are

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assured of it stays like this, the match will be on, it was worse an

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hour ago. Talking about last night, conditions that were great and we

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will talk about how bad West Ham were in a minute but how good were

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Man City? They were excellent, Silva was man of the match, I think they

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had it going last night, they had everything clicking the way, ideally

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would like them to play, I think that's largely down to the way West

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Ham played against them, they were very poor. But you get the five

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goals, it's a great way performance but West Ham were extremely poor.

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Also with West Ham, get the feeling that they know the in their own

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stadium, they are not used to it and the punters are a bit, what is going

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to happen? But city were outstanding. Guardiola said they

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played with a certain amount of freedom, the style of the pitch...

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West Ham fans as welcome you never know how much authority you can say

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this with the devil pictures of them leaving after 50 minutes. It's not

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good for the team. That has been the case, you look at home this season,

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they haven't quite have that one big performance to change the stadium,

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we have seen side major different stadiums in the past, they did that

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one big game, a comeback, beat Biggar side, that's perhaps the

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turnaround for them -- need that. The other thing, for Man City, that

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would have been their strongest team, play your strongest team and

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you might win more games! If you look at what West Ham fans are

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saying, there are conflicts about players who are not playing well

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this season, they're desperate to get some quality in the transfer

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window. Allegedly they have made all sorts of bits. The strikers, there

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is one thing about the guys who own West Ham, they do put their money

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in, and they understand, it's all about the players, undoubtedly they

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will probably bring two or three the end of January. A look at some of

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the other standout ties this weekend.

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Two managerial debuts at the kick on stadium, where I'll play Swansea.

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Sutton who AFC Wimbledon. We will be there later. The evening kick-off is

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Preston against Arsenal. Five games tomorrow including 9000 Plymouth

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fans going to the Liverpool game. Cambridge against Leeds in League 2,

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going well in the Championship. And team news from Old Trafford. Name

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changes for Manchester United after Monday's went. Marcos Rojo and

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Carrick coming in. Wayne Rooney starts. He missed the festive period

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with that thigh injury. One goal short of equalling Sir Bobby

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Charlton's all-time record. Reading, third in the Championship. Paul

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McShane missing out through injury. That is confirmed. A couple of

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changes from the side who won at Bristol City on Monday. Stan is back

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at Old Trafford, where he spent three seasons in 1998. Winning a

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number of titles and the FA Cup. It would be nice to have warm welcome.

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The club is an important point in my career. This is a double but could

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become a trouble. There is nothing better than playing in that stadium

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in front of all those fans. It is good to be back. They love him at

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Old Trafford because he won so many trophies during his short time

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there. He was part of the team that won the trouble. As Alex Ferguson

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said, he was the only person he let go too early. Correct. It was a

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regret, he said. They look back on him as one of the great central

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defenders. If he had stayed, you wonder what he would have done. The

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way that United used to play at that time, they sent so many bodies

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forward and they used to leave him back on his own because he was so

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quick and read the game so well, he was such a great defender. And he

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has had no setbacks as a manager. He must think the game is easy! He was

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asked which of the players from his team would he bring to Old Trafford.

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None of them, because they are in his 50s! When he went in pre-season,

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he made an immediate impression on the players. Not necessarily being

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aloof. He got the players playing, he got them together. The position

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that they are in, they have big potential to be promoted this

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season. I know you say that Manchester United have been playing

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relatively well for much of the season. A few changes, Anthony

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Martial, Marcos Rojo, Rooney is back. They could finish eighth in

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the league. That is how strong they are. I have a quiz question, with

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regards to Jaap Stam. He is one of five managers involved in the third

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round to win the FA Cup as a player. Name the other four? Mark Hughes.

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Don't name them all, that will be rubbish! I will give you the rest of

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them at the end. Steve Bruce? Stop! And jogging. Lincoln City travel to

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Ipswich in the Championship. This is proper FA Cup drizzle. Is that the

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same as rain? Danny Kelly and his brother, Nicky, are the boys behind

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their resurgence and Trevor Sinclair has been to meet them in his white

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jeans. We have the guys from the BBC with us today. The focus is on the

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football in a couple of days. Anyone would think the cameras were there.

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As a Championship goalkeeper, that is another opportunity for us to go

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after it. 5000 supporters coming to an away game for our non-league

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club, that would never have happened before. Having watched the last two

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games and getting a feeling for the drive, I think some of the Ipswich

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supporters will be going there and think they will going to lose.

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Sooner or later, they will start supporting you. Nice to see you.

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Thank you very much. We are just trying to train now. A lot of it is

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today is around what we do without the ball. I have got the clock on

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it, Nick. Ready to go, chaps. Go for it. We both had good jobs after

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school. How difficult was it to leave a secure job and going to

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management after what you have seen in the last couple of weeks, with

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managers getting sacked left, right and centre? People said it was a

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gamble but we believe in our skill set and our work ethic. We felt like

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we could make it successful. We are passionate about coaching and

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teaching. Just getting involved in professional football was a dream of

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hours. And it has now become a reality, and something that we want

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to work hard at. What is your relationship? Obviously you are a

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coaching team. We're not interested in roles and titles. When you come

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from the lower levels, step five of non-league, at that level you are

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doing everything. You are the kick man and a ball boy, and doing all

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the bits. -- kit man. Not only football, you have managed to bring

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the community of Lincoln City into the football club. It is a lovely

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club. The supporters can have access to us and the players, sometimes

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with the support of a Premiership club, you watch it through a glass

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window. I think we have a connection, because the lads are

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hard-working and honest, and that is probably what the people of Lincoln

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are. There is a natural history. A big game, up against Mick McCarthy's

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team. He has managed in the Premier League. How exciting for you,

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forgetting about the players tonight, two pit your wits against

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such a manager? Is one of those managers that says it as it is. You

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always want to listen to him. I like listening to him, and he has

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forgotten more than we know. We really look forward to that

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challenge of putting our wits against him. It is the same for the

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players. We expect to be players we are playing against will run quicker

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than us, jump higher, they will be technically more efficient than us,

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but we are pretty resilient and determined. We are pretty together

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and we are going to need those qualities if we are going to find a

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way on Saturday. Thank you for your time. Thanks, Trevor, I appreciate

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your time. Thanks ever so much. If you have just switched on we're live

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from barrel today as they take on Rochdale. -- live from Barrow. We

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have reporters at every single tie today. Highlights on Match of the

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Day with Trevor, hopefully without those genes. And don't forget, you

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can watch all of the goals on the BBC's website from 5:15pm. Very busy

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here at Barrow, as you can imagine. This is the thread els room, one of

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the legends of the club. -- this is the Fred Else room. And there is

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Fred Else, one of the legend is no longer with us. This fellow is Brian

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Arrowsmith, and I am delighted to say he is with us today, alongside

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Paul Caso, the owner and chairman. And they are renaming the main stand

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after Brian, who is on the front cover of the magazine today. I don't

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know whether my heart can stand it. It does not come much bigger than

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this. Give us an idea because people might detect a slight twang. You

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actually live in tariffs. You are from Barrow, but that must be the

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longest commute in football history. -- you actually live in Dallas. It

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is not that bad and you get used to it. I am here about once a month.

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You fly into Barrow International? And from your perspective, Brian, a

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day like this must be a reflection on the glory days of the club. Bring

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the microphone up. Definitely. I have been lucky in my time with the

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people I have met and the club, what we want from the club today, most

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people will say it is just a win. That is all we need. Have you got a

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feeling that there might be a victory against Rochdale today? Yes,

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yes. No doubt. Let me ask you, what does it mean to you? When you walk

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out today, your name is on the main stand. That must mean an awful lot

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to you and your family. It does. I have spent a lot of time on there,

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in that area. Because that is a new stand now. I say new, it is probably

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ten, 15 years old. And now you can sprint in front of the pitch but in

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the old days you couldn't. Things have changed a lot but hopefully the

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glory days are coming back. Definitely. Because this gentleman

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has decided that is what he wants, and that is fair enough. I think

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O'Brien is saying is that you are very much in charge, Paul! I don't

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know whether I am that much in charge but we will see. -- I think

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what Brian is saying. How hard to juggle life in the US with looking

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after a team. On the day like today, you can feel the enthusiasm for the

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occasion. Actually, it is not so bad because one tends to take your mind

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off the other, actually. People say, what do I do for fun, and I have to

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think about that for a minute. There is not really that much time. That

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is probably the biggest downside. But on a day like this, it really

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makes it worth it. So what are your ambitions for the club? We said when

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I took over that five years was a time frame to see what we could do

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with the club. Football league clubs have a lot deeper infrastructure

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than they did when Brian played, for example. To be able to build a club

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will take a little time. I have been told by quite a few locals that I

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cannot interview on the telly without asking you to produce your

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footwear. Can you? Go on. Get them on the table if you

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can. Look at those beauties! There we go. You would never make a

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footballer with that lack of hamstring movement. Thank you very

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much, gentlemen. A big round of applause for Brian. I hope you both

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enjoy the game. There were some cracking Premier League games

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midweek. Have a look at this. Goals from White Hart Lane to come very

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shortly but first, action from the south coast. A fabulous goal from

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Charlie Daniel! And it is a penalty. Brought down just inside the area.

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Callum Wilson has a chance to make it 2-0. Straight down the runway.

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Brilliant from Fraser. The angle is tight. He slotted home. Bournemouth

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three Arsenal now. Would you believe it? -- Arsenal Nell. Sanchez, on the

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left. Lucas with a left footed volley and that is spellbinding.

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That is a bad tackle. Bournemouth will finish with ten men. Simon

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Francis came hurtling into Aaron Ramsey. And it is in! They have

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beaten Boruc. Olivier Giroud runs out to the Arsenal fans and

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Bournemouth cannot believe it. Arsenal comeback from 3-0 down to

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snatch a point in the second half. We're back in the main bar with this

:29:00.:29:04.

rabble. Hello, everyone. They are getting a bit rowdy now. That game

:29:05.:29:09.

from an Arsenal perspective, to come back from 3-0 down, you would think,

:29:10.:29:13.

great, it is a point but the manner they played in the first 15 minutes,

:29:14.:29:17.

that is not good for going forward. It isn't, but the result is the

:29:18.:29:22.

all-important thing. They could have been beaten 3-0 but the response in

:29:23.:29:26.

the second half was outstanding. What about Alexis Sanchez? Arsenal

:29:27.:29:30.

fans will not want us to talk about this because they are fearful of

:29:31.:29:33.

where his future might lie but he was not happy at the end of that

:29:34.:29:38.

game. We have seen it on the pitch recently. We saw him on his punches

:29:39.:29:42.

and the body language has not been great. But you get the reaction from

:29:43.:29:46.

him. He almost sparked Arsenal today. They got them back into the

:29:47.:29:51.

game and he just provides something. When the rumours circulate, and we

:29:52.:29:53.

have been in this position before work contracts have not been sorted.

:29:54.:29:57.

You look back at the last ten years, the amount of top-class players who

:29:58.:30:01.

have left, puts two and two together and you make some negative

:30:02.:30:06.

conclusions. Arsenal, of course, take on Preston. There is a lot of

:30:07.:30:14.

support for Preston around here. A small club, apparently! These two

:30:15.:30:17.

are desperate to talk about them because it is a club that means a

:30:18.:30:21.

lot to do. We are just desperate! And this is a huge opportunity,

:30:22.:30:24.

isn't it? It is a great game and we speak so often about the third round

:30:25.:30:29.

and what it means, but it means so much to Preston. They have never

:30:30.:30:33.

been in the Premier League, so these occasions are huge. A full house at

:30:34.:30:37.

Deepdale and I'm looking forward to it. Why do you think I have got a

:30:38.:30:42.

tie on? I thought it was for the good people of Barrow.

:30:43.:30:48.

I know you will both go to Deepdale to watch your team, are they going

:30:49.:30:55.

to go for it? Will we see a cagey performance? They would be taking

:30:56.:31:00.

them to bits! Have you seen many championship games? It is dubbed a

:31:01.:31:06.

dog or as Alan Kennedy once said, vice versa! We will release the

:31:07.:31:13.

mentor them, -- really steam into them. He has done really well, the

:31:14.:31:19.

manager, to get them promoted, he has the crowd back onside, that's

:31:20.:31:23.

the most important thing, he has brought the whole club together.

:31:24.:31:26.

Hopefully our strikers won't bite each other today! Are you both

:31:27.:31:33.

predicting a Preston when? I think it'll be very tough. I want a draw!

:31:34.:31:42.

The biggest finance is Arsenal away. All that pre-match catering! On

:31:43.:31:48.

Wednesday night Chelsea were looking to make history, win at Spurs and

:31:49.:31:52.

they have put in straight league victories in a single season. I

:31:53.:31:53.

wonder what happened! -- 13. He slips the ball through. Two

:31:54.:32:00.

strong, overhit the past. Just wide from Christian Eriksen.

:32:01.:32:22.

Diego Costa shoots, right underneath it. The ball is headed a cross and

:32:23.:32:29.

in by Dele Alli! And Tottenham take the lead against the leaders, just

:32:30.:32:32.

before half-time! Dele Alli with a header, 2-0!

:32:33.:32:43.

Chelsea are facing defeat here for the first time since September in

:32:44.:32:44.

the Premier League. Both girls from Dele Alli, there are

:32:45.:32:55.

ten points spreading the top six in the Premier League, is it wide open?

:32:56.:33:02.

Is it a six horse race? I wouldn't say six horse race... I would

:33:03.:33:06.

suggest a three horse race, but plenty games, and other 54 points

:33:07.:33:15.

still to play for. It's anybody's. I think Manchester City, Chelsea,

:33:16.:33:18.

Liverpool. Would you go along with that? I think Manchester United,

:33:19.:33:25.

with the form they are in, they will probably get top four in the end.

:33:26.:33:30.

Why would you not throw Spurs in there, considering how they are

:33:31.:33:33.

playing, and with Billy Ali, the form player in the division? He is a

:33:34.:33:38.

wonderful talent. He is very fortunate insofar as he can be

:33:39.:33:42.

whatever he wants to be in football, I just don't think that eventually

:33:43.:33:45.

they will make the top four and threatened to win the league. I

:33:46.:33:48.

don't think they have been consistent enough. They are coming

:33:49.:33:55.

into the performances now, but overall, I think... Injuries have

:33:56.:33:59.

cost them, they didn't look quite as good when Harry Kane was out, when

:34:00.:34:05.

the wiry old was out, that could be a problem. I think somebody has

:34:06.:34:12.

spotted himself on television! Pre-match preparation, a pint of

:34:13.:34:18.

Ribena! From a Chelsea point of view, I know that one has come to an

:34:19.:34:22.

end but they should be given so much credit for an incredible run of 13

:34:23.:34:27.

straight wins. Totally, the outstanding performance as they were

:34:28.:34:30.

putting in, that system, have Tottenham broken it, don't think

:34:31.:34:34.

they have, I think Antonio Conte is a realist, he will get them back on

:34:35.:34:37.

the training ground over the next ten days ahead of the next Premier

:34:38.:34:41.

League game and get them right, organise them, get them set up for

:34:42.:34:46.

the next match. If you look at it, Liverpool drew away at Sunderland

:34:47.:34:50.

and Arsenal drew away at Bournemouth. They have only gained

:34:51.:34:57.

one point. Kyle Walker and Danny Rose got behind Chelsea, is that the

:34:58.:35:01.

way other teams are going to take it? I think the way Tottenham Place,

:35:02.:35:05.

they went man for man in the wingback positions, I think

:35:06.:35:08.

Pochettino thought that Danny Rose and Kyle Walker would get the better

:35:09.:35:14.

of Alonso and Moses. But I think it was the two lads, Christian Eriksen

:35:15.:35:17.

and Billy Ali, they were the two that caused problems, I felt. Those

:35:18.:35:22.

two coming inside, they caused the problems -- Dele Alli. I think

:35:23.:35:27.

Everton tried to do the same at Stamford Bridge and got beaten five,

:35:28.:35:34.

so you have to have the quality. The men will face Aston Villa tomorrow,

:35:35.:35:39.

live on BBC One, Harry winks has broken into that Tottenham first

:35:40.:35:40.

team and has been speaking to us. You have been at Spurs since the age

:35:41.:35:52.

of five, how is your first season as a professional diving? I'm loving

:35:53.:35:56.

it, it has been brilliant for me. Gametime is what I want, the fact

:35:57.:36:02.

that the manager is given the opportunities, I am grateful for

:36:03.:36:05.

that and I will continue to work hard.

:36:06.:36:11.

Scores his first goal for the club on the day he started in the Premier

:36:12.:36:17.

League for the first time! At the time, it was a blur, all I can

:36:18.:36:20.

remember is seeing the manager, my family up in the box, everything

:36:21.:36:25.

else went up in the full stop what is your relationship with

:36:26.:36:31.

Pochettino, is he someone who talks to you a lot? He is the same with me

:36:32.:36:38.

as everyone, which is what I like. I know myself but I need to do, I need

:36:39.:36:42.

to keep working and progressing and hopefully with the Klopp advice, it

:36:43.:36:46.

can benefit me. Who was your hero, your role model? Me the most

:36:47.:36:52.

important was Steven Gerrard, a massive influence on my career I

:36:53.:36:57.

remember writing a letter to him when I was five as well! He's

:36:58.:37:02.

someone I looked up to. Potentially an FA Cup debut how excited are you?

:37:03.:37:08.

Even if I get one minute, to play in the FA Cup would be an absolute

:37:09.:37:12.

honour because within England, to such a special competition, I would

:37:13.:37:13.

love to be involved at some point. You will also hear from Jack

:37:14.:37:19.

greenish in the build-up tomorrow. Ladies and gentlemen, can I

:37:20.:37:46.

introduce you to young Joe! Young Joe, from Barra. Would you like to

:37:47.:37:53.

touch the FA Cup? You got away with! How old are you? Eight. What's your

:37:54.:38:04.

position? It's any, actually. Utility man! What about your team,

:38:05.:38:07.

Barra, will they beat Rochdale today? Hopefully, I think we are.

:38:08.:38:22.

Watts:? -- what scoreline? 2-1 to Barra. Shall we start the round-up

:38:23.:38:34.

at Stoke or Selhurst Park? /. It's the wrong answer, we have to go to

:38:35.:38:36.

Selhurst Park. The new Swansea boss Paul Clement,

:38:37.:38:45.

making notes, he spent the first half in the stands before moving to

:38:46.:38:48.

the dugout after the break and from the side of the pitch, he saw his

:38:49.:38:53.

side concede this impressive equaliser from Wilfried Zaha, quite

:38:54.:38:58.

some volley. But they weren't then, two minutes to go, an unlikely

:38:59.:39:05.

source for the winner, the goal that made the difference, Swansea are

:39:06.:39:09.

just a point behind Crystal Palace. Elsewhere, Stoke were at home to

:39:10.:39:13.

Watford, this corner met by Shawcross, right at the end of the

:39:14.:39:18.

first half. Charlie Adam, another beautiful ball, a slip in the

:39:19.:39:22.

Watford defence, Peter Crouch prodding in number two early in the

:39:23.:39:26.

second half to complete a comfortable win.

:39:27.:39:32.

Three of the bottom four in the Premier League have changed their

:39:33.:39:37.

manager in recent weeks. Paul Clement, great result but he knows

:39:38.:39:41.

he has a massive Japanese hands. He is a superb coach. I have worked

:39:42.:39:44.

with him briefly when he was part of the caretaker setup. He is an

:39:45.:39:50.

excellent organiser, that's the one thing he will try to get and put in

:39:51.:39:54.

place straightaway. It didn't quite work out the him at Derby, it looks

:39:55.:39:59.

as though he didn't quite get on with the owner there, but that's

:40:00.:40:03.

what happens at every football club, he has to learn from that now. He

:40:04.:40:07.

has worked with the best players, the best clubs, whether or not that

:40:08.:40:13.

will carry any weight at 20, you have different players, different

:40:14.:40:17.

setup. Now it's all about containing sites, at times, that's what he has

:40:18.:40:22.

to do at times, stop shedding goals. They need players I don't know what

:40:23.:40:26.

has happened to the recruitment, when they sold Ashley Williams, not

:40:27.:40:30.

just a good player, organiser, leader, they have never really

:40:31.:40:35.

replaced him. They take on Hull City, they have got a new manager in

:40:36.:40:41.

Marco Silva, this week. He's another one of those mini Mourinhos he's

:40:42.:40:46.

confident, speaks good English, he did a really good job, will be

:40:47.:40:53.

looking at him but he has a massive job at Hull City. The club has been

:40:54.:40:59.

a bit of a shambles, Steve Bruce left because he wasn't given any

:41:00.:41:03.

money to sign new players, M Phelan, they had no belief in him to get

:41:04.:41:08.

through this transfer window, they brought Silva in, it's a big one,

:41:09.:41:12.

this, it's one where it's come to be a huge test for him personally,

:41:13.:41:16.

particularly if he has brought in four new members of staff, how the

:41:17.:41:22.

club are just that. He was also sacked from a previous club for

:41:23.:41:28.

wearing the wrong... Not wearing the official suit. That's a bit harsh!

:41:29.:41:36.

Why wouldn't you just give the money to Mike Phelan to get players? It

:41:37.:41:40.

doesn't make sense. I will see you at that later. Can't wait! Missing

:41:41.:41:48.

you already! Don't worry. Keep drinking yourself drinks, you lot.

:41:49.:41:57.

We will go and try and find the dressing room where the club's top

:41:58.:42:01.

scorer is awaiting. A lot of people asking what the weather is like

:42:02.:42:04.

today, maybe you saw a shot of the frog. Referee David Webb, he would

:42:05.:42:08.

be taking a good look at that, it looks OK, fine to play. Most of the

:42:09.:42:16.

players at Barrow actually train in Manchester and it does make it

:42:17.:42:21.

easier to recruit some players. Give us a wave, John, worked here for

:42:22.:42:26.

nearly 20 years, he is predicting a 2-1 victory. This is the Rochdale

:42:27.:42:33.

dressing room in there, that's the away team dressing room, the

:42:34.:42:37.

shortest possible walk for you. We are going to go into the home team

:42:38.:42:43.

dressing room, I want to show you this, this is proper football, have

:42:44.:42:50.

a look. A printer the Sox, the shirts, all the normal stuff you

:42:51.:42:52.

would expect, jelly babies, Jaffa cakes, chocolate milk, the peat,

:42:53.:43:00.

some scissors, look at the Bath... Unlike a look at the Bath, rusty old

:43:01.:43:07.

club, wonderful actor, who knows whether they will be congratulating

:43:08.:43:13.

or commiserating later on. It continues. This is where the sub

:43:14.:43:17.

skipper ready for the game in here. Again, further, the physio room.

:43:18.:43:24.

Some of the boys who will be playing later on. It's a bit like Narnia,

:43:25.:43:29.

there is the after door and I would like to introduce you to the boss,

:43:30.:43:34.

Paul Cox, and Byron Harrison as well. Thank you for hosting us

:43:35.:43:39.

today. For, we have spoken to the fans, real excitement for the club,

:43:40.:43:45.

how has it been this week? Really good, the boys seem focused, they

:43:46.:43:48.

have worked hard as they usually do and don't seem to be getting

:43:49.:43:52.

sidetracked by the hype that follows the FA Cup. Byron, a lot of

:43:53.:43:59.

attention on you as the men who scored against Bristol Rovers, but

:44:00.:44:03.

has it been like you individually preparing for this? People would be

:44:04.:44:07.

showing his goal, looking at you, thinking you the man to deliver

:44:08.:44:12.

goods. I would take going through this round with anyone scoring. I am

:44:13.:44:17.

very much about the collective, the team is what we focus on, not an

:44:18.:44:22.

individual thing. How much of an advantage will it be playing

:44:23.:44:26.

Rochdale at home, do some advantage count for you? I think so, we are

:44:27.:44:34.

undefeated at home this season. You are on this unbelievable run, it and

:44:35.:44:40.

ended on New Year's Eve with Gateshead, was that a slip-up of the

:44:41.:44:45.

FA Cup round the corner? I don't think so, it had been coming, couple

:44:46.:44:49.

of games before we had developed a few bad habits. It happened, it was

:44:50.:44:56.

all was going to happen, the boys have been on a tremendous run, it

:44:57.:44:59.

became a monkey on our back after a bit, nice now to get that out of the

:45:00.:45:04.

way and refocus and what better game to come into them the FA Cup. You

:45:05.:45:08.

have managed at this level before, you took on Liverpool and Maxfield,

:45:09.:45:14.

let me just show you this Luis Suarez goal, he muttered handball

:45:15.:45:19.

that, you have terrible memories of this game? No, fabulous memories, I

:45:20.:45:23.

remember the whole of the British press waiting for me after the game

:45:24.:45:27.

and wanting his head on a plate. It's only when you come up against

:45:28.:45:33.

him that he was a fabulous talent is, it's a shame he's not playing

:45:34.:45:38.

here anymore. I love to watch as a footballer. It was one of those

:45:39.:45:40.

things. Ad you are brought in a couple of

:45:41.:45:51.

new players. John Platt, as the goalkeeper. And Danny Roe. How does

:45:52.:45:56.

that affect the team ethic? Well, the squaddies and massive. The

:45:57.:46:03.

Gateshead game, we were down to 14 fit players, at this level, you

:46:04.:46:07.

sometimes struggle to get the team out there. We have added to the

:46:08.:46:12.

depth and quality of the squad, not just for today's game but for the

:46:13.:46:16.

long-term. We are nicely placed in the league and we have a couple

:46:17.:46:21.

games in hand. And that is our priority, really. We are looking at

:46:22.:46:26.

this today and looking to go out and enjoy it, looking to try to win the

:46:27.:46:30.

game and really enjoy the atmosphere. Well, enjoy the game

:46:31.:46:35.

today. It seems like you are mentally repaired and focused. We

:46:36.:46:39.

were all be talking about Rochdale a little later, the chairman will be

:46:40.:46:45.

giving us his perspective. Paul is in charge at Barrow today. We will

:46:46.:46:50.

be speaking to Martin Allen, who goes back to Bradford with

:46:51.:46:53.

Eastleigh. We have been to see the mad dog. Welcome to Hampshire. We

:46:54.:47:04.

are here to meet a manager whose team are in the third round for the

:47:05.:47:08.

second successive year and who is facing one he beat Premier League

:47:09.:47:16.

opposition with 11 years ago. It goes past the goalkeeper. Yes! How

:47:17.:47:22.

often do you look back at that when? Not at all. This is going to be

:47:23.:47:29.

great them. We are into the last minute here. And there is DJ,

:47:30.:47:36.

getting across the centre-half. And he has scored the goal that surely

:47:37.:47:41.

has put Brentford into the fifth round of the FA Cup. It was magical

:47:42.:47:45.

because beating a Premier League team, DJ just had some magic. Next

:47:46.:47:52.

week we sold him for 650 grand. When we go back on Saturday it will be

:47:53.:47:56.

the first time I have been on that pitch since. They were my family,

:47:57.:48:00.

they supported me for a great couple of years. And on Saturday it will be

:48:01.:48:04.

very emotional when I get back onto the pitch and see all those people

:48:05.:48:08.

again. Barnett were absolutely flying a month and a half ago in

:48:09.:48:12.

League 2 and all of a sudden I was shocked, you dropped down a

:48:13.:48:16.

division. I was shocked. We had a really good run. A really good squad

:48:17.:48:22.

of players. I just thought it was time to freshen up. I had had a few

:48:23.:48:27.

health problems as well which was a bit scary. It is a big job, with a

:48:28.:48:32.

lot of work to be done with the playing staff, and off the field as

:48:33.:48:37.

well. But I kind of wanted something new and exciting, to be honest. You

:48:38.:48:42.

mentioned your health. Are you OK? People will want to know how you

:48:43.:48:46.

are. Was it a heart scare? They could not find what was wrong with

:48:47.:48:50.

my heart but they knew something was beating irregularly. They thought it

:48:51.:48:54.

was the arteries, so I went in for one of those stem things to be put

:48:55.:48:57.

in to clear it. The last time I went in for an operation they said it was

:48:58.:49:02.

not the arteries, it was one of the chambers. So carry on as normal but

:49:03.:49:08.

no running, no real exercise, look after yourself. And come back and

:49:09.:49:14.

see us in three months. So I am one month into that now. I think you

:49:15.:49:19.

will find I am not as animated in the technical area because I know I

:49:20.:49:23.

have to make sure I look after myself. And that is what I have been

:49:24.:49:29.

doing. You do realise that a lot of us would walk away from a stressful

:49:30.:49:32.

profession like football and just concentrate on that. Is that

:49:33.:49:35.

something you thought you might have to do at one stage? Yes. There was

:49:36.:49:40.

the possibility that I would have to quit. I was close to quitting

:49:41.:49:44.

Barnett altogether, not coming here, just calling its time out. It would

:49:45.:49:48.

be nice to go to Brentford, do the business, just to have that feeling

:49:49.:49:54.

of an FA Cup upset once again. They are a very good Championship team. I

:49:55.:49:58.

am telling you know, I have 15 players available for Saturday and

:49:59.:50:04.

four of them are tight. We are right down to the bare bones. Make our

:50:05.:50:08.

supporters happy, let's get out there with a win. With a win! Good

:50:09.:50:18.

to see them smiling. We are alive and Barrow. To keep you up-to-date,

:50:19.:50:23.

Manchester United are facing Reading in the third round. Wayne Rooney has

:50:24.:50:26.

equalled Sir Bobby Charlton's goal-scoring record and Anthony

:50:27.:50:29.

Martial with the other. Keep up-to-date and see those goals as

:50:30.:50:32.

they happen on the BBC sport website. On the Martin Allen side of

:50:33.:50:38.

things, he is a very personable, open and honest there. But

:50:39.:50:42.

Eastleigh, they find themselves in a strange situation. They have only 15

:50:43.:50:46.

fit players because they brought so many in that they are not able to

:50:47.:50:50.

use this year. What they're doing is gambling on those players getting

:50:51.:50:53.

them higher up the league. There might be too many points back, but

:50:54.:50:58.

they want to get into the play-offs. At certain levels, Martin Allen is a

:50:59.:51:03.

very, very good operator. And it is interesting, we saw the goal from DJ

:51:04.:51:07.

Campbell there. This is what the third round can do for you. He got

:51:08.:51:10.

to move to Birmingham in the Premier League on the back of what he did in

:51:11.:51:15.

the FA Cup. It still is that kind of platform. Whatever level you are

:51:16.:51:20.

playing at, it is your chance to get into league football. Certainly

:51:21.:51:24.

Barrow are in contention for promotion but every player wants to

:51:25.:51:27.

play league football. You want to play as high as possible. DJ

:51:28.:51:31.

Campbell took his chance. And Rochdale play today. We know they

:51:32.:51:35.

are going really well. They have got an outstanding manager. Keith Hill,

:51:36.:51:39.

he should never go back. He really has upset them because he has done

:51:40.:51:46.

great. We will speak to the chairman about him later. Are you sure about

:51:47.:51:53.

that? AFC Wimbledon are playing today. It should be a cracking cup

:51:54.:51:56.

tie. Jonathan Pearce is there for us.

:51:57.:52:00.

Two special people with me including Greg Clark and Paul does well.

:52:01.:52:05.

Sutton, greatly successful at Eastleigh. Why Sutton? I think I had

:52:06.:52:13.

probably done my time at Eastleigh. I had eight years there, very good

:52:14.:52:19.

years. I was a former player there and I loved the club, still love the

:52:20.:52:23.

club. A new challenge at Hampshire. To come up to London and get out of

:52:24.:52:29.

my comfort zone. To join a club with a fabulous non-league tradition. And

:52:30.:52:33.

you part sponsor the club, you paid for this pitch yourself. It could be

:52:34.:52:38.

a leveller because Sutton said in 1989 that that mucky pitch was a

:52:39.:52:42.

leveller them. Looking at the highlights of the earlier game, it

:52:43.:52:50.

was more sand than grass. Nobody will look at this game today and

:52:51.:52:57.

think it is not a good grass pitch. It is an artificial pitch. Does that

:52:58.:53:01.

give you an advantage? Last year we won more games with them at home but

:53:02.:53:06.

not this year. It is only an advantage if you do the job. You

:53:07.:53:10.

have some lovely stories in your sides. Mattox played against

:53:11.:53:15.

Wimbledon a few years ago. Some good players in the team. There are some

:53:16.:53:21.

real links. My physio today was a physio in the Crazy Gang at

:53:22.:53:25.

Wimbledon. When it was really the Crazy Gang. Our goalkeeper played

:53:26.:53:29.

for Wimbledon. A couple of seasons ago. And you have to look at their

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physio, Stuart Douglas, a good friend of mine. He was my physio

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here. There are lots of links. We describe it as a friendly Derby and

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that is the way it is. Good luck to you today. Greg, memories of the

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third round? I remember Leicester against Man City in 1969. I remember

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packing into a friend's house because the street had one colour

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television. Sadly Leicester lost in that final, but it was the first one

:53:57.:54:00.

I remember seeing. People talk about the big teams in the FA Cup but in a

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way, the FA Cup is all about this. Of course. It will be great to be

:54:05.:54:08.

here today. I could not tell you who is going to win but it will be a

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competitive game at a wonderful, state-of-the-art pitch. And

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Manchester City last night, they did the FA Cup round. Would you like to

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see them follow soon? Everybody with any respect for heritage Anne love

:54:26.:54:27.

for the game wants to see their team do well in the FA Cup. It is good to

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see teams putting strong teams out. It is fair to say that 2016 was not

:54:32.:54:38.

a good year for British football. But grizzly. What can the FA Cup

:54:39.:54:43.

dude for football this year? I think we should focus on football, focus

:54:44.:54:46.

on the fans and the excitement of the game. We need to watch fans

:54:47.:54:50.

having a great time and get the focus back. And Goodison Park, an

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exciting game for you? Yes. I hope Leicester are not too focused on the

:54:57.:55:00.

Champions League. Very excited to be here today. My first visit here

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since 1989. Looking forward to it. Quite a game.

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Hopefully they will have a good one. We are back in the main buyer. The

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nice, you lot. Let me introduce the Rochdale chairman. BREWING. I think

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that is a pantomime boot. Look at that, it has broken into a round of

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applause. Obviously a lot of attention on Barrow and what they

:55:32.:55:34.

can do but the FA Cup is huge for Rochdale. I think the FA Cup is huge

:55:35.:55:40.

for everybody. The third round is the most exciting day in the

:55:41.:55:44.

calendar. It is something that you cannot get in league football. The

:55:45.:55:49.

bottom of the pile in the mix with the top of the pile. It is all about

:55:50.:55:53.

days like today. And you mentioned the job that Keith Hill has done. An

:55:54.:55:58.

absolutely fantastic job. Do you budget for the third round? No. This

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is a massive bonus. And if you get through, even more. Or if Barrow get

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through. He is playing to the audience! If I can just comfort the

:56:14.:56:23.

Barrow fans by saying that I can remember us losing at home to

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ordering, Chelmsford, Grantham. Not all the same week. You are not

:56:30.:56:35.

giving the team talk today! From a Rochdale perspective, we spoke with

:56:36.:56:39.

the manager downstairs about how Barrow have prepared. Has it been

:56:40.:56:42.

one of these weeks where there is so much interest in this competition

:56:43.:56:45.

and the fact that Rochdale is playing one of the only non-league

:56:46.:56:50.

sides left? There is always interest in the club. It is important to us,

:56:51.:56:55.

as it is to Barrow. It will be a tough game. We know that there is a

:56:56.:57:02.

prize for the winners. What will Keith Hill be wearing today? He is

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not only dressing smart with a nice long jacket, he likes his gear. Of

:57:07.:57:10.

all the things we discuss and Rochdale, it is not the manager's

:57:11.:57:14.

year. I will be having a look at that. You are wearing our wonderful

:57:15.:57:18.

suit yourself. Any particular reason? Is it an FA Cup suit? It is

:57:19.:57:27.

not that old! Promotion to the Championship must be another

:57:28.:57:29.

priority this season. I would not say it is a priority but it is

:57:30.:57:33.

certainly an interest. We have had a good run and the team is playing

:57:34.:57:37.

good football. We are putting ourselves against the best in the

:57:38.:57:43.

division. We would like to be in the play-off places. I am sure they will

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be nice to you. Ladies and gentlemen, the Rochdale chairman.

:57:48.:57:52.

Thank you very much, Chris. Thank you to Barrow, Kevin and Mark for

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such a warm welcome. Manchester United lead and Reading. The great

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Edinburgh cross-country race follows us, watch that with Sir Mo Farah in

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15 minutes time. We will be back next Saturday. Remember that quiz

:58:07.:58:09.

question? I think you nearly got three. The five managers playing in

:58:10.:58:14.

the FA Cup this weekend who won as a player. Here is your answer. Thank

:58:15.:58:17.

you for watching, thank you for being here.

:58:18.:58:36.

He goes through the middle! 3-3! It is Hughes again. Back at Wembley.

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Upping the ante - so you'd better raise your game.

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End of the road, or just the beginning.

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