05/02/2017 MOTD2 Extra


05/02/2017

Analysis of Saturday's Premier League matches and a look ahead to Sunday's action, including Manchester City v Swansea City and Leicester City v Manchester United.


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Good afternoon, welcome to MOTD2 Extra on BBC Two,

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Joining me today former Liverpool midfielder Dietmar Hamann,

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former Everton midfielder Leon Osman and the Sunday Times football

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#bbcfootball on social media, or text 85058 if you

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Here is what is coming up this lunchtime. Chelsea's rivals all but

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concede the tiet wl Antonio Conte's side nine points clear. Dietmar

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Hamann said it was madness to give Jurgen Klopp a six-year deal. What

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next for Liverpool after one win in ten. We will hear from Jermain Defoe

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as he helps Sunderland to a win over Crystal Palace and Claudio Ranieri

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and Jose Mourinho have been under pressure. These are some of the back

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page headlines. A bridge too far said the Star saying Arsene Wenger

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conseepeds the title. Mark Hughes concerned that information about

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Saido Berahino's drugs ban came out before their match with West Brom.

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And Claudio Ranieri giving his side an ultimatum - back me or get me

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sacked. We will start though with the title race. Jonathan Northcroft

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with Chelsea and Arsenal and that 3-1 win and if we take it when every

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game has played 24 games at least, only Newcastle who were nine points

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clear in February 1996 finished second. And Manchester United blew

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an eight point lead, everyone is conceding? Yes this is the weekend

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the title was won. Chelsea had their two biggest games and you saw a

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mature, relentless side who knew how to handle the pressure and won

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yesterday with something to spare and should have beaten Liverpool and

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if you look at the points total, they could break the record of 95.

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This is a team, I can't see it slipping up. They're setting stand

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arounds that no one else is getting near. -- standards. If you look at

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that defeat against Arsenal, that left Chelsea back then eight points

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behind City, the leaders and in eighth place. That was a water shed

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moment? Yes and they had a disappointing game with Liverpool at

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Stamford Bridge, where Liverpool beat them and people were

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questioning the manager, whether he can adapt to the English league and

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will last to Christmas or how quickly he can change things around.

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What a turn around. I watched him at Anfield in midweek and I was

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impressed. In Kante they have the best holding midfielder in the

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world. Matic is outstanding and they have the base with the back three,

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Luiz playing that free role like Beckenbauer. He can pick his

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challenges and in Diego Costa and Hazard they have game-changers. They

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look the real deal. Leon Osman what is it about Chelsea, they're not

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setting the world on fire and playing sensational football, but

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they're getting the job done. That is it. If you look at them, they're

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like a machine. They're constantly performing at a high level and don't

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look like they're going to slip up. Don't look like there will be any

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human errors and they look well-oiled and we are seeing that

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the league's pretty much over and you can see why. You can't see the

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machine slipping up. And I'm wearing my anorak, because it is a brilliant

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stated, 38 home games, including a bit of Juventus as well for Antonio

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Conte. How many wins? 36. 95% win rash yoep at home -- ratio at home.

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These are the kind of stats that Jose Mourinho arrived with after

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being at Porto at Chelsea. Those are the echos you hear looking at that

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Chelsea team. It is that relentless machine-like Chelsea that Mourinho

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built and a manager that is so in charge of the team and used to

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winning, it looks familiar and bad for the rest of the league. What

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does it say about the rest of Premier League? Slackers? No, I

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wouldn't say that, you have a team that plays at a very high level,

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unbeaten in so many games and don't concede many and they have the

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credentials of a Championship-winning team. I don't

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think it says a lot about the rest of league are no good, but one team

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are better than the four or five chasing them and nine points is a

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lot. Barring injuries, I think they will win the league. But you have to

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see, City's going well and Spurs won't go away. I think six or seven

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good teams in the league, but one is outstanding. If one of the six or

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seven are good, one are Arsenal and Chelsea have been nicking games, but

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this was a real message yesterday? Yes, a lot of people were saying

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Arsenal were potentially still in the title race. I didn't believe so,

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but Chelsea destroyed Arsenal and sent a message not only to Arsenal,

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but to the Premier League and the fans that they're the team running

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away with the league at the moment. They're going to be very difficult

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to catch. It does show how bad we were at predictions. We didn't

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predict Leicester and this year we thought it would be between the

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Manchester clubs and be tight and it is one of the most one siepded in

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years. -- One sided in years. Glenn Hoddle said you can never be sure

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the league is done and dusted in February, but that is what it felt

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like. And one said, it felt like a school game with a lower age gap and

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you have a trial against the year 11s. Yes Chelsea bullied Arsenal and

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Diego Costa was bullying the defender and Kante and Matic were

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ruling that area. It is the way they win games. It is not just the fact

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they're winning, but the dominance they're showing and they have that

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ruthlessness that Chelsea with Jose Mourinho had. They're physically,

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you said the trial game, Chelsea look like that, they're so

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physically big and mature and even the small players dominate the pitch

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and that leads to even if they're not playing well, because they have

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not played well in every game, but they still win the games and always

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in the game and they have Diego Costa to nick the goals. Arsenal

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started badly against Watford and were 2-0 down within ten minutes.

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That is the difference for me, that just doesn't happen to Chelsea. When

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you look at Chelsea's next six games, Burnley, Swansea, West Ham,

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Watford, Stoke, Palace and the top six, they only play two between the

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end of season. Manchester City and Manchester United. Now Arsenal,

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Didi, who takes responsibility for what's happening at Arsenal. It is

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just Arsene Wenger? How broad does it go? It has to be the manager. He

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is the man bringing the players in. They spent money. He was accused

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years ago he does not spend money. He brought a player from Barcelona

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and one from Real Madrid. So they spent money. And they have not

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progressed. They're in danger for the first time in years to miss out

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on the top four place, because they have been in the the Champions

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League for 15 or 16 years and the chase for the title is over and I

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just don't see the team progressing. When you look at a team and you

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bring in new players, you want progress. If you see progress, you

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can give him a year or two. I don't know who turns up to a game with an

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enough is enough banner. But the old rear guard, noft turning against him

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-- not turning against him but questioning him. This is Ian Wright

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last night. You have a tough couple of months and when you think Arsenal

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are doing what they're doing at time of the season, when they're slipping

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up and falling away, you have to say he has got a real serious think to

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do at the end of the season. What he wants to do. Has he got the stomach

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to do it again. You hear the sadness in his voice. No one wants to attack

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Arsene Wenger and the ex-Arsenal players owe a lot to him. But the

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fact they're saying this is significant. You look at things like

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a week ago Arsene Wenger said he had the best strike force he had and he

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said perfect the Watford game -- he said before the Watford game we are

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prepared and then they're 2-0 down. Things like that makes people wonder

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if he has got the grip on the club and the direction that it needs and

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it is sad, but we have been here before with Arsene Wenger. He

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usually endses up with a new contract. Manchester City can take

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advantage of the slip ups of Arsenal and Liverpool, they take on Swansea

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today. Our correspondent is at the Etihad. Yes, great excitement here

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after City's recent performances in London against Palace and West Ham.

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Great excitement Trevor Sinclair about Gabriel Jesus. How excited

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should City fans be about this kid? I think he could be one of the best.

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He is so exciting and you look at the front three, with Sane and Rahim

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has hit form and it is just amazing amount of pace they have. For any

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defence facing them three and Aguero, they will be fearing facing

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that and the pace they go at teamles is incredible. That is the $64

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million question - is it plus Aguero or does Gabriel Jesus play instead

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of him? Potentially that could be the case. But they're both going to

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do the job and I'm sure at times looking for the Champions League

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games Aguero will be needed. You look at Gabriel Jesus, he has

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everything. He is strong, he is powerful, he is fearless. He said

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I'm cold. And for me that, I was impressed with that. He won't get

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nervous. He won't get too down when he plays bad. He will stayed in

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middle and the best way to bring the best out of himself. Are you sure it

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is not just because he has come to Manchester. He is not bothered about

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the weather. He takes the game by the scruff of the neck. He reminds

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me of Wrighty with his attitude and he had a chance against West Ham and

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the ball didn't come to him and he was hands up in the air, 19, we have

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to remember that, the experience at 19. A special talent. If Swansea

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were coming here a month ago, everybody would be saying they're

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going to get battered. But Paul Clement has had an immediate effect

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on the team. Yes, the players have responded well to his coaching. He

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has so much experience. It didn't work at Derby, but I think that

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makes him a better manager, he will have a look at things, where did he

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go wrong and he has moved on and started well. The players enjoy

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playing for him. Sigurdsson could walk into most sides in the top six,

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and Llorente, he is getting a song out of him. They're a dangerous club

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to be facing today. But City seem to have so much fire power and

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confidence and Vincent back and there is confidence growing. If they

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can get a win they will be third and closing the gap. Thank you. Trev's

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on five live later. I will be on Match of the Day Two later. . Loving

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that outfit for Trevor. Manchester City and Swansea kick off at half

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one. We are waiting for the teams news. Aguero left on the bench

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against West Ham. Can you imagine him being left out. What is his

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future with Gabriel Jesus? I can, because there is a younger player

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who looks equally, doesn't have his record yet, but he is some player.

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What struck me is in two and a half appearances, he made himself a focus

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of everything. That is the kind of thing that superstars do. A long way

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to go. Not saying he will be a superstar, but he has that thing

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about him and for Aguero there is somebody else in town that is a

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contender. I think he could get left out. City have a lot of games coming

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out. He will want to blood Jesus as quickly as he can. He is a top

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player. But you know, you forget that Aguero's played a lot of games

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and started all the games. Top teams are the ones that go and try and win

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the leagues and more than one trophy. You can have two or three

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strikers firing and the manager chooses when to bring them out.

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There has been so much pressure on Aguero and I think it is a good

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thing for City they have somebody else. Is the issue one of your old

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clubs this ageing prospect and I'm getting confirmation, Aguero on the

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bench and Gabriel Jesus starting. Is it the age factor and eleven players

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over 30 and just four under the age of 22. Is there a quick fix to that?

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There is no quick fix. It is not always good when you bring in young

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players. You need players of the right edge. If you had these

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players, 26, up into 30, it is the best age for football. You need

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these players as well. There was a game last year were they did not

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have one player under 29 and the page, way to Crystal Palace. They

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needed to bring in young players. I still think Aguero will have a big

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role to play, because as Leon said, there was big responsibility on him.

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Since the goals have dried up from Yaya Toure, they have not had the

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threat from midfield. De Bruyne is probably the biggest threat from

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midfield. They need someone to take the pressure away from Aguero. It

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gives him more space. We will maybe see him late in the game today. It

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can only be positive. City need someone to take the weight of the

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shoulders of Aguero. We will see that game later on Match Of The Day

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two. What a win yesterday for Sunderland at Crystal Palace. 4-0.

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Two goals from this man, Jermain Defoe, who joins us on the phone.

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Good afternoon. What was that journey like going back to the

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north-east? I am actually still in London. I watched Tottenham last

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night. It was a nice time to show your face when you have won 1-0. It

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was a performance that we needed. It was always going to be a difficult

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game. It is always difficult when you're playing the teams around you.

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It was a six pointer. Is specially playing against some Allardyce team.

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They are always direct and physical. It was important that we dictated

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how the game was going to go. To win the way we did was unbelievable. The

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Sunderland fans, if they are 30 and they are not grey or bold, they are

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doing well. What are you doing to them? The journey you have been on

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over the last five seasons, it has been all relegation battles. I do

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not know. For some reason, it is how it has been. It is important that we

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stay focused. Because we have done it before, we have been in this

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position before, we know what we're doing. We would rather not be in

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this position. It is what it is. It is important we stick together and

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try and get some results. On a personal point of view, everyone

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always talks about you being underappreciated in the Premier

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League over the years. Do you feel that way? Not really. I do not think

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I have been underappreciated. It is nice when people say that, but it is

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not something I have thought about over the years. The only thing I

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have really thought about, if I am being honest, I have always felt

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like I could have played more games for England in certain parts of my

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career when I was playing well. What have you done, have you run over

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someone's dog at the FA? I do not know. I get asked that question

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every day. I just get my head down. I have always been one of those

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players, I worked hard and I love scoring goals. That satisfies me.

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I'm playing for a top football club when I am appreciated. The fans are

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brilliant. I love scoring goals. That is what I need to focus on and

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anything that comes after that is a bonus. It is Jonathan. You have

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scored another two goals yesterday. You are for Baggio scored more goals

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than you have ever done in your career. Have you improved something

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about your game? I do not think I have improved anything about my

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game. I just feel like I probably understand my body more than when I

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was younger. For me, the key thing is not the game, it is how I recover

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between the game. I will make sure my recovery is good. Away from

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training, I always try and do the right thing. I give myself the best

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opportunity to perform at the weekend. As far as the game goes, I

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do not think I have changed anything. My game has not changed. I

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can still running behind. Sometimes I come short. At the age of 34, it

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is nice. I do not feel like I need to adapt my game. Be honest with me,

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Jermain, it is just us on the phone, there is no one listening, at the

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end of the day, in terms of the relegation battle at the bottom, can

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you forget about it, or is it like some Allardyce when he was at

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Sunderland, he is Ops thinking about it all night? -- he is awake

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thinking about it. It is a lot of pressure. At times the relegation

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fight can be stressful. I just enjoy it. I look forward to the next game.

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That is the great thing about football, even when you're not

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playing well, when you have a bad result, the next game still comes

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around quickly, you can rectify it. Yesterday we won 4-0. You went the

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next game to come around quickly, which it well. I will try to enjoy

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it and not think about the position we're in. I will focus on scoring

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for the team. The goals are needed. I know how important the goals are.

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That is why I am even more focused than I was years ago. I imagine you

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do not really care much how some Allardyce feels this morning, your

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old manager. I do not know if you saw that interview with Jacqui

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Oatley, he said he was shell-shocked and heard. He looked like he was

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bewildered by what had happened. I sent him a message after the game. I

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wanted to say hello. I do not have the opportunity. Did it say LOL. No.

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I wanted is beat him after the game but they did not have the chance. I

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messaged him after the game. Some Allardyce was great for us.

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Obviously it is not nice seeing him in that way. At the end of the day,

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you can only do what is best for your team. Ara Gaffer, David Moyes,

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he was absolutely delighted. The work he has put in on the training

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pitch, trying to improve the players every day, bringing in the new

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signings, you could say it was a perfect performance yesterday. On

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our side of it, everyone is delighted and happy. I can imagine

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that some Allardyce is not best pleased. Thank you for joining us.

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Top man. Best of luck for the rest of the season.

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The Sunderland striker, Jermain Defoe. Leon Osman, that is the kind

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of result, I was listening to it yesterday on final score, and you

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think, really? It is one of those. Looking at the game, you thought it

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would be close. Either team could win. If one was going to, you would

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probably have picked Crystal Palace. Sunderland have been struggling.

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They have made some good signings, Bryan Oviedo from Everton, Darron

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Gibson. He will know what he can get out of them how quickly can

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introduce them. Bryan Oviedo played yesterday and did well. It was a

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great result. You are the only one who is missing. I am waiting by the

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phone. I do not go out in case it is going to ring! Sunderland have had

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belief in themselves. I do not think anyone else thought they would win

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that game. Credit to them, to score four goals await any ground is a

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great achievement. But in a bottom of the table clash like that, it was

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vital. Didi, I want your thoughts on what some Allardyce has had to say.

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Let's listen to the Crystal Palace boss. For me, it looks like fear.

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For me, the fear we are suffering at Crystal Palace is evident. It was

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Swansea, the last time we had the game as big as this. These games are

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bigger than playing Man United, Chelsea, because they are 6-points.

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The fear has gripped the players and has not allowed them to express the

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ability they have God. I cannot think it is anything other than

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that, having experienced it. It is difficult because the fans are so

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good here. They come to support the club. It is a sell-out today. They

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are desperate for the club to do well. The dead behind the players.

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It is not often the players get criticism, and they deserved the

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booing they got today. I will have to apologise because of what the

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first-half performance was like. It is my responsibility to get it

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right. With the rest of the staff, I will continue to work as hard as I

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can to turn that around. Jonathan Northcroft, Didi Hamann and Leon

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Osman joining with -- with us if you're listening on five live. You

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are the -- you are in the Crystal Palace team, and you have just heard

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the manager say that you deserve to get booed. What do you think of

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that? If you lose 4-0, and you concede four goals by half-time

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against a team that is second bottom of the table, it is probably right.

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If there is a problem, he has to identify it. If he thinks he knows

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it is fear, that is a good thing. But how does he address it? I worry

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for Crystal Palace. They have always been a team that is hard to beat.

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They did not concede many goals and they had exciting players going

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forward. Some Allardyce bases his success on defence. They have got to

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sort it out quickly. The teams around them, Sunderland, Hull, they

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all show glimpses of life. They are a team that you would rely upon to

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win at home. That has always been at the heart of their success, through

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their history and in the Premier League. Some Allardyce has been

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there for a game now and he has only one victory. That impact has not

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happened. He is calling out the players. Perhaps it is a desperate

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thing to do. We will see if he gets a reaction. From the point of view

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of the players, you accept that. You're losing 4-0 two Sunderland,

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who are bottom of the league, at half-time. You go on to lose the

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game. It is bad. You expect to face the wrath of the fans. It would be

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strange if you did not. You look at Crystal Palace, and as Jonathan has

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said, you expect them to win their home games. It was always a

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difficult place to play football and trying get the result. You were

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always up against it, no matter where they were in the league. Some

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Allardyce has not won a league game at home. They won a league game away

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at Bournemouth. When you're in that sort of trouble, what does that sort

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of emotional hurt do to you? It should make you go out and put it

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right in the next game. You do not want that happening again. The worst

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you can do when you next go out there is run around until you cannot

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run any more, giving your all. That is probably the question about the

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Crystal Palace team at the moment, I'll be doing that? On paper, people

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said they have got a good team, too good to go down. But if they are not

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showing that on the jihadist, they will be trouble. I think the award

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for the idiot of the day or week goes to that Crystal Palace fan.

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Trying to punch one of the players from the team you support is not the

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way to show you care. I think he was dealt with quickly. I am not sure he

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will be seeing many Crystal Palace game again. Let's talk about

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Liverpool. Madness to give Jurgen Klopp a new six-year deal in the

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summer just gone. That was your quote from this morning. You going

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to talk about that? If you want to. I am not quite sure you believe it.

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Jonathan is responsible. Sensationalist journalism. I found

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it strange in the summer. If you look at the facts, Jurgen Klopp

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cumin, he changed the perception in the City, at the club. It gave the

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fans and the people in the City a bit more common-sense. In Liverpool,

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people are either ecstatic because things are going well, or they are

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almost suicidal because things are not going well. It is either black

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or white in Liverpool. He gave them more common-sense. He had an impact.

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He improved some players, but if you look at the facts, even in the

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summer, I do not think the points average improve dramatically if

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anything from Brendan Rodgers. You get to two finals and Liz two. I

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think both could have been won, especially the second one against

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civil-mac. That would have had an impact because he would've got the

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Champions League. -- against Seville. People talk about

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stability. You do not get stability by giving someone a six-year

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contract. You get that from being smart and the transfer market. Have

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they done that? I do not think they have. If you do not fancy the left

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back, bring one in in the summer. James Milner is a great team player,

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a great player to have around the place, but he cannot play him all

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the time at left back. A new keeper has been brought in and he has not

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function so Mignolet is back. I think Liverpool are too weak in the

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midfield. I think they need a holding midfielder. I watched them

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against Chelsea. He had two plumper players in N'Golo Kante and Nemanja

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Matic. In Liverpool I do not see enough purpose and structure. -- two

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proper players. They should get Didi Hamann in the dressing room at

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half-time. That would sort it. Listening to that, are you

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suggesting, Didi, apart from Klopp coming in and talking common-sense

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that the club has gone backwards after Brendan Rodgers?

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He said I need too win a trophy. I home he is there for six years,

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because that means the club will be successful. If you look at the

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table, six or eight weeks ago they were favourite to win the title. A

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lot of people said Liverpool could be a threat to Chelsea this season.

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Now, they drop out of the top four if City win today and there is a big

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question mark whether they finish in the top four and there is another

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huge two games with Southampton, where I think it was a fantastic

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opportunity to get that first trophy and they failed gloriously. My issue

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with the team is in recent years when there was a final or a

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semi-final, when ever the chips were down, the team failed. That hasn't

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changed with him. Whether he can change with that crop of players or

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he needs to change most of the team, I don't know. But I think something

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has to change, the way the team has been going is not good enough.

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Damning verdict. That comment came about because we were talking about

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you build success and I think it is what it says, giving someone a

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six-year contract when they have lost two finals. Liverpool as a club

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has been built on winning, and Jurgen Klopp's brilliant, we

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recognise his abilities, he may be the right man. But at that point to

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give a guy a contract extension when he has not won something goes

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against what Liverpool used to stand for. Take the contract issue of the

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of the way, have Liverpool not just had a bad month. Couldn't it be an

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over reaction. Arsenal were renowned for having a bad November. This is

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his first and a half season, has he just had a bad month? They have got

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knocked out of both cups and lost a couple of league games and as we

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have noticed with Pep Guardiola, and Ronald Koeman, coming in with

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Everton and having a run of bad games, are they not learning, it is

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his first full season. He tried to mix the team up against Southampton

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and Plymouth and Wolves, maybe he, maybe next season he will think, I

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have learned me lesson and move on. Sometimes you have got to see a

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perspective on it. Looking Leon Osman getting the Liverpool view.

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That is the difference between a good and bad month. I'm an ever

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tonian, I want to keep him. You can't have a a bad run, if you look

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at teams they did lose, lost to Southampton and Swansea and Wolves.

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I think he should have after losing to Swansea and not beating

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Southampton, he should have picked a strong team and they should have won

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that game. He picked the team he felt would win and didn't to set

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himself up for the Chelsea game. If he had that opportunity again, maybe

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he would do it different. That is what I mean about learning the

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league. We need to move on, but huge credit to Marco Silva? Yes they look

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a different team and they're still putting the team together. There are

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new signings. They look like they're capable of surviving and they looked

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dead a few weeks ago. Jack said Jurgen Klopp is finding out pressing

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like mad men will make you hit the wall quicker in England. They can't

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break teams down and the clubs know how to play against him. A big game

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in the Championship with Leeds playing Huddersfield. The most

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anticipated West Yorkshire Derby in years. 1-1 at the break. Brown put

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the home side ahead. A ball by Smith and Brown pounced. Leeds equalised

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eight minutes later, Hernandez with the cross and Huddersfield defence

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too busy waiting for an offside to be called. But Wood bundled home.

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And there have been two chances for Huddersfield. But at the break it is

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1-1. Thank you. Now Everton, 6-3 winners, what a game that was for

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the neutral and the Everton fans. Romelu Lukaku, where is he in his

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career, rejected by Chelsea, had a decent loan at West Brom. Has he

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done everything he could do after being pushed out by Mourinho? Yes,

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he is a goal scorer and he wants to score goals. That is what he has

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done. He has come to Everton and playing some really great football.

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He looks deadly in front of goal. I don't fancy him missing chances in

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the box. As a striker, what more can you ask? He is scoring regularly and

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you forget he is only 23. And at that stage he is probably still

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improving and got a bit to go. Does he think he is bigger than Everton?

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His agent certainly does. Do you think he does, you have trained with

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him? I don't think he does. But with all your top strikers, they have an

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arrogance about them. That is probably one of the things that

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makes them as good as they are. They have a self-belief and they go out

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and show that on the pitch. Four goals yesterday, top scorer in the

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Premier League, he deserves to be that arrogance. You don't think he

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will be there next year. Can you blame the play er? Finishing is one

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area where me can improve. He gets into good position and he is so

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powerful and quick. But his finishing yesterday was sublime.

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There was rumours about Bayern Munich in the summer. There might be

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big English clubs knocking on the door, or a German or Spanish club, I

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think that is how good he is. Can you blame the player if he wants to

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play f a Spanish giant comes in or a Manchester City or Chelsea.

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Tottenham. I am not sure will they spend the money required. But what

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it is doing or what he brings to Everton is tremendous. Let's hope he

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stays for another season. I doubt it. If a big offers come in they

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will sell him and then they have to plan for next season, because they

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have a lot of talent there. But he would be a massive loss. What about

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Everton in general. I said to Ronald Koeman has it become the top six and

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the best of rest. He said I don't know what the best of the rest is.

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He can't complain with the six above him? No, but he is a winner and that

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has been important to Everton. He has not settled for just a good

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season. He is ambitious, maybe ambitious for himself. That is a

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factor. The young players coming in, we talked about Tom Davis, that has

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been important to the team and he has brought in Schneiderlin and that

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helps and they're two points behind United. I was asked a while back,

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maybe there was seven or eight points between seventh and sixth a

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can Everton make up the gap. I have said they have got to believe. If

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they keep winning games, I feel they're big up to make up the gap.

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They're clawing that back and with the run of games coming up, they're

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winnable games. The way Manchester United have been going, they will be

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thinking we can finish above them. Yes they have been on a great run

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apart from the cup match. Jonathan, Saido Berahino. West Brom 1, Stoke

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0. He came off the bench to boos. Has he come out of the situation not

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looking too shabby. We are talking about Tony Pulis and Mark Hughes and

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how they have fallen out. Are we missing the bigger picture? Yes it

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is probably good that it has been about the managers for him. Whether

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it was right or wrong. For people who don't know, Mark Hughes said he

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is suspicious about how this story came out before the teams met. West

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Brom we should say adamant it has been done above board and that all

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the full details were give on the Stoke. I think these things should

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come out any way. If you want to deter players from getting involved

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in drugs, then you have to... Allegedly. You have to name and

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shame and when somebody fails a test or there is an issue, it should be

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made public. Why did Jake Livermore's come out and this

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didn't? I think there is an anonymity. There is a bigger issue,

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I think we should know. I think that will be a great deterrent. You want

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to know and it to be above board. But West Brom handled it well to

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keep it quiet and sell the player, if it had come out, I'm sure the

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money would be reduced. West Brom handled it well to get as much as

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they could. Anything to say on the that. No comment. Let's hope he

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concentrates on his football. Because he is a wonderful talent and

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it would be a shame if he doesn't fulfil the expectations of him. Only

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a few minutes left and let's talk about Leicester against Manchester

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United. Has Jose Mourinho gone on the attack. He has attacked about

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his own players, saying they haven't that winning mentality and they're

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in their comfort zones, he has had a go at Pep Guardiola. When he shaves

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his head, does he turn into somebody else. Yes he has calmed down in

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recent weeks and that coincided with a good run of results. But I just

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don't get it when you have a go at the players. Because you will need

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them again. It is a squad game with 25 games and publicly names and

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shames people like Mkhitaryan, at some stage you need the players. I

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don't know what he wants to achieve having a go at everybody. You need

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to give the players belief and if they haven't got the winning

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mentality, apart from Rooney and others, that is why he is there. Try

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to instill the mentality and win trophies again. That is why he gets

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top dollar. Do it. His agenda is the transfer market and he is

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campaigning to be given another ?200 million to spend. He wanted to bring

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in a defender and he was not able to. The slump has occurred and he is

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saying I don't have enough winners. So he wants more signings. On

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Mourinho, is it not all every where he goes there is a conspiracy theory

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against him. It is like he gets bored and this what shall I do, come

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out with an incredible statement. I'm not sure whether it is... The

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conspiracy theory that he says, but with, you mentioned the players

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don't have, I think it was the experience of winning troefives is

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-- troefives is how -- trophies is how he phrased it. The players have

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been brought to win trophies and it is up to him to help them and they

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have experience with Rooney and those. And Leicester, spirit's gone.

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What is happening? Dreadful recruitment, the tactics keep

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changing and the spirit has been affected and even around them is

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doing better and today is huge. Leicester and Manchester United,

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full commentary on five live this afternoon and Manchester City

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against swan say kicks off in half an hour. Gabby is here tonight with

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Match of the Day Two and it is the Super Bowl too. That is on BBC1 at

:43:52.:43:57.

11.20. From all of us, have a good one.

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Will Perry presents analysis of Saturday's Premier League matches and a look ahead to Sunday's action, including the top-flight games between Manchester City and Swansea City, and Leicester City versus Manchester United.