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Good afternoon, welcome to MOTD2 Extra on BBC Two, | :00:28. | :00:29. | |
Joining me today former Liverpool midfielder Dietmar Hamann, | :00:30. | :00:39. | |
former Everton midfielder Leon Osman and the Sunday Times football | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
#bbcfootball on social media, or text 85058 if you | :00:45. | :00:53. | |
Here is what is coming up this lunchtime. Chelsea's rivals all but | :00:54. | :01:09. | |
concede the tiet wl Antonio Conte's side nine points clear. Dietmar | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
Hamann said it was madness to give Jurgen Klopp a six-year deal. What | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
next for Liverpool after one win in ten. We will hear from Jermain Defoe | :01:19. | :01:26. | |
as he helps Sunderland to a win over Crystal Palace and Claudio Ranieri | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
and Jose Mourinho have been under pressure. These are some of the back | :01:32. | :01:38. | |
page headlines. A bridge too far said the Star saying Arsene Wenger | :01:39. | :01:45. | |
conseepeds the title. Mark Hughes concerned that information about | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
Saido Berahino's drugs ban came out before their match with West Brom. | :01:51. | :01:56. | |
And Claudio Ranieri giving his side an ultimatum - back me or get me | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
sacked. We will start though with the title race. Jonathan Northcroft | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
with Chelsea and Arsenal and that 3-1 win and if we take it when every | :02:07. | :02:13. | |
game has played 24 games at least, only Newcastle who were nine points | :02:14. | :02:20. | |
clear in February 1996 finished second. And Manchester United blew | :02:21. | :02:27. | |
an eight point lead, everyone is conceding? Yes this is the weekend | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
the title was won. Chelsea had their two biggest games and you saw a | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
mature, relentless side who knew how to handle the pressure and won | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
yesterday with something to spare and should have beaten Liverpool and | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
if you look at the points total, they could break the record of 95. | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
This is a team, I can't see it slipping up. They're setting stand | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
arounds that no one else is getting near. -- standards. If you look at | :02:55. | :03:01. | |
that defeat against Arsenal, that left Chelsea back then eight points | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
behind City, the leaders and in eighth place. That was a water shed | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
moment? Yes and they had a disappointing game with Liverpool at | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
Stamford Bridge, where Liverpool beat them and people were | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
questioning the manager, whether he can adapt to the English league and | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
will last to Christmas or how quickly he can change things around. | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
What a turn around. I watched him at Anfield in midweek and I was | :03:28. | :03:36. | |
impressed. In Kante they have the best holding midfielder in the | :03:37. | :03:38. | |
world. Matic is outstanding and they have the base with the back three, | :03:39. | :03:50. | |
Luiz playing that free role like Beckenbauer. He can pick his | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
challenges and in Diego Costa and Hazard they have game-changers. They | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
look the real deal. Leon Osman what is it about Chelsea, they're not | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
setting the world on fire and playing sensational football, but | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
they're getting the job done. That is it. If you look at them, they're | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
like a machine. They're constantly performing at a high level and don't | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
look like they're going to slip up. Don't look like there will be any | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
human errors and they look well-oiled and we are seeing that | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
the league's pretty much over and you can see why. You can't see the | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
machine slipping up. And I'm wearing my anorak, because it is a brilliant | :04:33. | :04:39. | |
stated, 38 home games, including a bit of Juventus as well for Antonio | :04:40. | :04:46. | |
Conte. How many wins? 36. 95% win rash yoep at home -- ratio at home. | :04:47. | :04:54. | |
These are the kind of stats that Jose Mourinho arrived with after | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
being at Porto at Chelsea. Those are the echos you hear looking at that | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
Chelsea team. It is that relentless machine-like Chelsea that Mourinho | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
built and a manager that is so in charge of the team and used to | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
winning, it looks familiar and bad for the rest of the league. What | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
does it say about the rest of Premier League? Slackers? No, I | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
wouldn't say that, you have a team that plays at a very high level, | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
unbeaten in so many games and don't concede many and they have the | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
credentials of a Championship-winning team. I don't | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
think it says a lot about the rest of league are no good, but one team | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
are better than the four or five chasing them and nine points is a | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
lot. Barring injuries, I think they will win the league. But you have to | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
see, City's going well and Spurs won't go away. I think six or seven | :05:48. | :05:53. | |
good teams in the league, but one is outstanding. If one of the six or | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
seven are good, one are Arsenal and Chelsea have been nicking games, but | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
this was a real message yesterday? Yes, a lot of people were saying | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
Arsenal were potentially still in the title race. I didn't believe so, | :06:10. | :06:16. | |
but Chelsea destroyed Arsenal and sent a message not only to Arsenal, | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
but to the Premier League and the fans that they're the team running | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
away with the league at the moment. They're going to be very difficult | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
to catch. It does show how bad we were at predictions. We didn't | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
predict Leicester and this year we thought it would be between the | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
Manchester clubs and be tight and it is one of the most one siepded in | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
years. -- One sided in years. Glenn Hoddle said you can never be sure | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
the league is done and dusted in February, but that is what it felt | :06:50. | :06:55. | |
like. And one said, it felt like a school game with a lower age gap and | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
you have a trial against the year 11s. Yes Chelsea bullied Arsenal and | :07:02. | :07:08. | |
Diego Costa was bullying the defender and Kante and Matic were | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
ruling that area. It is the way they win games. It is not just the fact | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
they're winning, but the dominance they're showing and they have that | :07:20. | :07:28. | |
ruthlessness that Chelsea with Jose Mourinho had. They're physically, | :07:29. | :07:35. | |
you said the trial game, Chelsea look like that, they're so | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
physically big and mature and even the small players dominate the pitch | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
and that leads to even if they're not playing well, because they have | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
not played well in every game, but they still win the games and always | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
in the game and they have Diego Costa to nick the goals. Arsenal | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
started badly against Watford and were 2-0 down within ten minutes. | :07:58. | :08:00. | |
That is the difference for me, that just doesn't happen to Chelsea. When | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
you look at Chelsea's next six games, Burnley, Swansea, West Ham, | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
Watford, Stoke, Palace and the top six, they only play two between the | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
end of season. Manchester City and Manchester United. Now Arsenal, | :08:15. | :08:22. | |
Didi, who takes responsibility for what's happening at Arsenal. It is | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
just Arsene Wenger? How broad does it go? It has to be the manager. He | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
is the man bringing the players in. They spent money. He was accused | :08:33. | :08:39. | |
years ago he does not spend money. He brought a player from Barcelona | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
and one from Real Madrid. So they spent money. And they have not | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
progressed. They're in danger for the first time in years to miss out | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
on the top four place, because they have been in the the Champions | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
League for 15 or 16 years and the chase for the title is over and I | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
just don't see the team progressing. When you look at a team and you | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
bring in new players, you want progress. If you see progress, you | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
can give him a year or two. I don't know who turns up to a game with an | :09:12. | :09:18. | |
enough is enough banner. But the old rear guard, noft turning against him | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
-- not turning against him but questioning him. This is Ian Wright | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
last night. You have a tough couple of months and when you think Arsenal | :09:29. | :09:34. | |
are doing what they're doing at time of the season, when they're slipping | :09:35. | :09:37. | |
up and falling away, you have to say he has got a real serious think to | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
do at the end of the season. What he wants to do. Has he got the stomach | :09:44. | :09:50. | |
to do it again. You hear the sadness in his voice. No one wants to attack | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
Arsene Wenger and the ex-Arsenal players owe a lot to him. But the | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
fact they're saying this is significant. You look at things like | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
a week ago Arsene Wenger said he had the best strike force he had and he | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
said perfect the Watford game -- he said before the Watford game we are | :10:11. | :10:17. | |
prepared and then they're 2-0 down. Things like that makes people wonder | :10:18. | :10:21. | |
if he has got the grip on the club and the direction that it needs and | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
it is sad, but we have been here before with Arsene Wenger. He | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
usually endses up with a new contract. Manchester City can take | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
advantage of the slip ups of Arsenal and Liverpool, they take on Swansea | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
today. Our correspondent is at the Etihad. Yes, great excitement here | :10:41. | :10:47. | |
after City's recent performances in London against Palace and West Ham. | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
Great excitement Trevor Sinclair about Gabriel Jesus. How excited | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
should City fans be about this kid? I think he could be one of the best. | :10:57. | :11:03. | |
He is so exciting and you look at the front three, with Sane and Rahim | :11:04. | :11:09. | |
has hit form and it is just amazing amount of pace they have. For any | :11:10. | :11:17. | |
defence facing them three and Aguero, they will be fearing facing | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
that and the pace they go at teamles is incredible. That is the $64 | :11:24. | :11:31. | |
million question - is it plus Aguero or does Gabriel Jesus play instead | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
of him? Potentially that could be the case. But they're both going to | :11:37. | :11:40. | |
do the job and I'm sure at times looking for the Champions League | :11:41. | :11:44. | |
games Aguero will be needed. You look at Gabriel Jesus, he has | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
everything. He is strong, he is powerful, he is fearless. He said | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
I'm cold. And for me that, I was impressed with that. He won't get | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
nervous. He won't get too down when he plays bad. He will stayed in | :11:58. | :12:04. | |
middle and the best way to bring the best out of himself. Are you sure it | :12:05. | :12:10. | |
is not just because he has come to Manchester. He is not bothered about | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
the weather. He takes the game by the scruff of the neck. He reminds | :12:15. | :12:21. | |
me of Wrighty with his attitude and he had a chance against West Ham and | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
the ball didn't come to him and he was hands up in the air, 19, we have | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
to remember that, the experience at 19. A special talent. If Swansea | :12:33. | :12:36. | |
were coming here a month ago, everybody would be saying they're | :12:37. | :12:43. | |
going to get battered. But Paul Clement has had an immediate effect | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
on the team. Yes, the players have responded well to his coaching. He | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
has so much experience. It didn't work at Derby, but I think that | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
makes him a better manager, he will have a look at things, where did he | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
go wrong and he has moved on and started well. The players enjoy | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
playing for him. Sigurdsson could walk into most sides in the top six, | :13:10. | :13:16. | |
and Llorente, he is getting a song out of him. They're a dangerous club | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
to be facing today. But City seem to have so much fire power and | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
confidence and Vincent back and there is confidence growing. If they | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
can get a win they will be third and closing the gap. Thank you. Trev's | :13:32. | :13:37. | |
on five live later. I will be on Match of the Day Two later. . Loving | :13:38. | :13:48. | |
that outfit for Trevor. Manchester City and Swansea kick off at half | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
one. We are waiting for the teams news. Aguero left on the bench | :13:53. | :13:59. | |
against West Ham. Can you imagine him being left out. What is his | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
future with Gabriel Jesus? I can, because there is a younger player | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
who looks equally, doesn't have his record yet, but he is some player. | :14:10. | :14:14. | |
What struck me is in two and a half appearances, he made himself a focus | :14:15. | :14:17. | |
of everything. That is the kind of thing that superstars do. A long way | :14:18. | :14:21. | |
to go. Not saying he will be a superstar, but he has that thing | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
about him and for Aguero there is somebody else in town that is a | :14:26. | :14:33. | |
contender. I think he could get left out. City have a lot of games coming | :14:34. | :14:40. | |
out. He will want to blood Jesus as quickly as he can. He is a top | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
player. But you know, you forget that Aguero's played a lot of games | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
and started all the games. Top teams are the ones that go and try and win | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
the leagues and more than one trophy. You can have two or three | :14:54. | :14:59. | |
strikers firing and the manager chooses when to bring them out. | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
There has been so much pressure on Aguero and I think it is a good | :15:05. | :15:08. | |
thing for City they have somebody else. Is the issue one of your old | :15:09. | :15:16. | |
clubs this ageing prospect and I'm getting confirmation, Aguero on the | :15:17. | :15:23. | |
bench and Gabriel Jesus starting. Is it the age factor and eleven players | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
over 30 and just four under the age of 22. Is there a quick fix to that? | :15:28. | :15:34. | |
There is no quick fix. It is not always good when you bring in young | :15:35. | :15:42. | |
players. You need players of the right edge. If you had these | :15:43. | :15:48. | |
players, 26, up into 30, it is the best age for football. You need | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
these players as well. There was a game last year were they did not | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
have one player under 29 and the page, way to Crystal Palace. They | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
needed to bring in young players. I still think Aguero will have a big | :16:03. | :16:06. | |
role to play, because as Leon said, there was big responsibility on him. | :16:07. | :16:12. | |
Since the goals have dried up from Yaya Toure, they have not had the | :16:13. | :16:15. | |
threat from midfield. De Bruyne is probably the biggest threat from | :16:16. | :16:19. | |
midfield. They need someone to take the pressure away from Aguero. It | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
gives him more space. We will maybe see him late in the game today. It | :16:25. | :16:30. | |
can only be positive. City need someone to take the weight of the | :16:31. | :16:40. | |
shoulders of Aguero. We will see that game later on Match Of The Day | :16:41. | :16:46. | |
two. What a win yesterday for Sunderland at Crystal Palace. 4-0. | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
Two goals from this man, Jermain Defoe, who joins us on the phone. | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
Good afternoon. What was that journey like going back to the | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
north-east? I am actually still in London. I watched Tottenham last | :17:01. | :17:07. | |
night. It was a nice time to show your face when you have won 1-0. It | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
was a performance that we needed. It was always going to be a difficult | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
game. It is always difficult when you're playing the teams around you. | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
It was a six pointer. Is specially playing against some Allardyce team. | :17:24. | :17:31. | |
They are always direct and physical. It was important that we dictated | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
how the game was going to go. To win the way we did was unbelievable. The | :17:36. | :17:42. | |
Sunderland fans, if they are 30 and they are not grey or bold, they are | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
doing well. What are you doing to them? The journey you have been on | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
over the last five seasons, it has been all relegation battles. I do | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
not know. For some reason, it is how it has been. It is important that we | :17:59. | :18:05. | |
stay focused. Because we have done it before, we have been in this | :18:06. | :18:08. | |
position before, we know what we're doing. We would rather not be in | :18:09. | :18:17. | |
this position. It is what it is. It is important we stick together and | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
try and get some results. On a personal point of view, everyone | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
always talks about you being underappreciated in the Premier | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
League over the years. Do you feel that way? Not really. I do not think | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
I have been underappreciated. It is nice when people say that, but it is | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
not something I have thought about over the years. The only thing I | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
have really thought about, if I am being honest, I have always felt | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
like I could have played more games for England in certain parts of my | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
career when I was playing well. What have you done, have you run over | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
someone's dog at the FA? I do not know. I get asked that question | :18:58. | :19:03. | |
every day. I just get my head down. I have always been one of those | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
players, I worked hard and I love scoring goals. That satisfies me. | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
I'm playing for a top football club when I am appreciated. The fans are | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
brilliant. I love scoring goals. That is what I need to focus on and | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
anything that comes after that is a bonus. It is Jonathan. You have | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
scored another two goals yesterday. You are for Baggio scored more goals | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
than you have ever done in your career. Have you improved something | :19:31. | :19:36. | |
about your game? I do not think I have improved anything about my | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
game. I just feel like I probably understand my body more than when I | :19:41. | :19:47. | |
was younger. For me, the key thing is not the game, it is how I recover | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
between the game. I will make sure my recovery is good. Away from | :19:53. | :19:59. | |
training, I always try and do the right thing. I give myself the best | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
opportunity to perform at the weekend. As far as the game goes, I | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
do not think I have changed anything. My game has not changed. I | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
can still running behind. Sometimes I come short. At the age of 34, it | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
is nice. I do not feel like I need to adapt my game. Be honest with me, | :20:19. | :20:25. | |
Jermain, it is just us on the phone, there is no one listening, at the | :20:26. | :20:30. | |
end of the day, in terms of the relegation battle at the bottom, can | :20:31. | :20:36. | |
you forget about it, or is it like some Allardyce when he was at | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
Sunderland, he is Ops thinking about it all night? -- he is awake | :20:40. | :20:46. | |
thinking about it. It is a lot of pressure. At times the relegation | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
fight can be stressful. I just enjoy it. I look forward to the next game. | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
That is the great thing about football, even when you're not | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
playing well, when you have a bad result, the next game still comes | :21:03. | :21:09. | |
around quickly, you can rectify it. Yesterday we won 4-0. You went the | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
next game to come around quickly, which it well. I will try to enjoy | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
it and not think about the position we're in. I will focus on scoring | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
for the team. The goals are needed. I know how important the goals are. | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
That is why I am even more focused than I was years ago. I imagine you | :21:28. | :21:33. | |
do not really care much how some Allardyce feels this morning, your | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
old manager. I do not know if you saw that interview with Jacqui | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
Oatley, he said he was shell-shocked and heard. He looked like he was | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
bewildered by what had happened. I sent him a message after the game. I | :21:46. | :21:53. | |
wanted to say hello. I do not have the opportunity. Did it say LOL. No. | :21:54. | :22:01. | |
I wanted is beat him after the game but they did not have the chance. I | :22:02. | :22:08. | |
messaged him after the game. Some Allardyce was great for us. | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
Obviously it is not nice seeing him in that way. At the end of the day, | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
you can only do what is best for your team. Ara Gaffer, David Moyes, | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
he was absolutely delighted. The work he has put in on the training | :22:22. | :22:24. | |
pitch, trying to improve the players every day, bringing in the new | :22:25. | :22:30. | |
signings, you could say it was a perfect performance yesterday. On | :22:31. | :22:32. | |
our side of it, everyone is delighted and happy. I can imagine | :22:33. | :22:38. | |
that some Allardyce is not best pleased. Thank you for joining us. | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
Top man. Best of luck for the rest of the season. | :22:44. | :22:46. | |
The Sunderland striker, Jermain Defoe. Leon Osman, that is the kind | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
of result, I was listening to it yesterday on final score, and you | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
think, really? It is one of those. Looking at the game, you thought it | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
would be close. Either team could win. If one was going to, you would | :23:01. | :23:07. | |
probably have picked Crystal Palace. Sunderland have been struggling. | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
They have made some good signings, Bryan Oviedo from Everton, Darron | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
Gibson. He will know what he can get out of them how quickly can | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
introduce them. Bryan Oviedo played yesterday and did well. It was a | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
great result. You are the only one who is missing. I am waiting by the | :23:27. | :23:31. | |
phone. I do not go out in case it is going to ring! Sunderland have had | :23:32. | :23:37. | |
belief in themselves. I do not think anyone else thought they would win | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
that game. Credit to them, to score four goals await any ground is a | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
great achievement. But in a bottom of the table clash like that, it was | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
vital. Didi, I want your thoughts on what some Allardyce has had to say. | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
Let's listen to the Crystal Palace boss. For me, it looks like fear. | :23:57. | :24:02. | |
For me, the fear we are suffering at Crystal Palace is evident. It was | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
Swansea, the last time we had the game as big as this. These games are | :24:07. | :24:11. | |
bigger than playing Man United, Chelsea, because they are 6-points. | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
The fear has gripped the players and has not allowed them to express the | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
ability they have God. I cannot think it is anything other than | :24:22. | :24:27. | |
that, having experienced it. It is difficult because the fans are so | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
good here. They come to support the club. It is a sell-out today. They | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
are desperate for the club to do well. The dead behind the players. | :24:37. | :24:41. | |
It is not often the players get criticism, and they deserved the | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
booing they got today. I will have to apologise because of what the | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
first-half performance was like. It is my responsibility to get it | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
right. With the rest of the staff, I will continue to work as hard as I | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
can to turn that around. Jonathan Northcroft, Didi Hamann and Leon | :25:00. | :25:02. | |
Osman joining with -- with us if you're listening on five live. You | :25:03. | :25:10. | |
are the -- you are in the Crystal Palace team, and you have just heard | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
the manager say that you deserve to get booed. What do you think of | :25:15. | :25:20. | |
that? If you lose 4-0, and you concede four goals by half-time | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
against a team that is second bottom of the table, it is probably right. | :25:25. | :25:30. | |
If there is a problem, he has to identify it. If he thinks he knows | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
it is fear, that is a good thing. But how does he address it? I worry | :25:36. | :25:40. | |
for Crystal Palace. They have always been a team that is hard to beat. | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
They did not concede many goals and they had exciting players going | :25:45. | :25:51. | |
forward. Some Allardyce bases his success on defence. They have got to | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
sort it out quickly. The teams around them, Sunderland, Hull, they | :25:56. | :26:00. | |
all show glimpses of life. They are a team that you would rely upon to | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
win at home. That has always been at the heart of their success, through | :26:06. | :26:08. | |
their history and in the Premier League. Some Allardyce has been | :26:09. | :26:14. | |
there for a game now and he has only one victory. That impact has not | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
happened. He is calling out the players. Perhaps it is a desperate | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
thing to do. We will see if he gets a reaction. From the point of view | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
of the players, you accept that. You're losing 4-0 two Sunderland, | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
who are bottom of the league, at half-time. You go on to lose the | :26:33. | :26:38. | |
game. It is bad. You expect to face the wrath of the fans. It would be | :26:39. | :26:44. | |
strange if you did not. You look at Crystal Palace, and as Jonathan has | :26:45. | :26:48. | |
said, you expect them to win their home games. It was always a | :26:49. | :26:52. | |
difficult place to play football and trying get the result. You were | :26:53. | :26:54. | |
always up against it, no matter where they were in the league. Some | :26:55. | :27:00. | |
Allardyce has not won a league game at home. They won a league game away | :27:01. | :27:06. | |
at Bournemouth. When you're in that sort of trouble, what does that sort | :27:07. | :27:12. | |
of emotional hurt do to you? It should make you go out and put it | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
right in the next game. You do not want that happening again. The worst | :27:17. | :27:20. | |
you can do when you next go out there is run around until you cannot | :27:21. | :27:25. | |
run any more, giving your all. That is probably the question about the | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
Crystal Palace team at the moment, I'll be doing that? On paper, people | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
said they have got a good team, too good to go down. But if they are not | :27:35. | :27:38. | |
showing that on the jihadist, they will be trouble. I think the award | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
for the idiot of the day or week goes to that Crystal Palace fan. | :27:44. | :27:47. | |
Trying to punch one of the players from the team you support is not the | :27:48. | :27:54. | |
way to show you care. I think he was dealt with quickly. I am not sure he | :27:55. | :27:57. | |
will be seeing many Crystal Palace game again. Let's talk about | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
Liverpool. Madness to give Jurgen Klopp a new six-year deal in the | :28:03. | :28:06. | |
summer just gone. That was your quote from this morning. You going | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
to talk about that? If you want to. I am not quite sure you believe it. | :28:12. | :28:19. | |
Jonathan is responsible. Sensationalist journalism. I found | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
it strange in the summer. If you look at the facts, Jurgen Klopp | :28:25. | :28:28. | |
cumin, he changed the perception in the City, at the club. It gave the | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
fans and the people in the City a bit more common-sense. In Liverpool, | :28:34. | :28:39. | |
people are either ecstatic because things are going well, or they are | :28:40. | :28:44. | |
almost suicidal because things are not going well. It is either black | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
or white in Liverpool. He gave them more common-sense. He had an impact. | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
He improved some players, but if you look at the facts, even in the | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
summer, I do not think the points average improve dramatically if | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
anything from Brendan Rodgers. You get to two finals and Liz two. I | :29:04. | :29:08. | |
think both could have been won, especially the second one against | :29:09. | :29:12. | |
civil-mac. That would have had an impact because he would've got the | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
Champions League. -- against Seville. People talk about | :29:17. | :29:22. | |
stability. You do not get stability by giving someone a six-year | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
contract. You get that from being smart and the transfer market. Have | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
they done that? I do not think they have. If you do not fancy the left | :29:32. | :29:35. | |
back, bring one in in the summer. James Milner is a great team player, | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
a great player to have around the place, but he cannot play him all | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
the time at left back. A new keeper has been brought in and he has not | :29:45. | :29:50. | |
function so Mignolet is back. I think Liverpool are too weak in the | :29:51. | :29:53. | |
midfield. I think they need a holding midfielder. I watched them | :29:54. | :30:00. | |
against Chelsea. He had two plumper players in N'Golo Kante and Nemanja | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
Matic. In Liverpool I do not see enough purpose and structure. -- two | :30:05. | :30:10. | |
proper players. They should get Didi Hamann in the dressing room at | :30:11. | :30:14. | |
half-time. That would sort it. Listening to that, are you | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
suggesting, Didi, apart from Klopp coming in and talking common-sense | :30:21. | :30:23. | |
that the club has gone backwards after Brendan Rodgers? | :30:24. | :30:26. | |
He said I need too win a trophy. I home he is there for six years, | :30:27. | :30:34. | |
because that means the club will be successful. If you look at the | :30:35. | :30:38. | |
table, six or eight weeks ago they were favourite to win the title. A | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
lot of people said Liverpool could be a threat to Chelsea this season. | :30:43. | :30:47. | |
Now, they drop out of the top four if City win today and there is a big | :30:48. | :30:52. | |
question mark whether they finish in the top four and there is another | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
huge two games with Southampton, where I think it was a fantastic | :30:57. | :31:03. | |
opportunity to get that first trophy and they failed gloriously. My issue | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
with the team is in recent years when there was a final or a | :31:08. | :31:12. | |
semi-final, when ever the chips were down, the team failed. That hasn't | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
changed with him. Whether he can change with that crop of players or | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
he needs to change most of the team, I don't know. But I think something | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
has to change, the way the team has been going is not good enough. | :31:26. | :31:31. | |
Damning verdict. That comment came about because we were talking about | :31:32. | :31:38. | |
you build success and I think it is what it says, giving someone a | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
six-year contract when they have lost two finals. Liverpool as a club | :31:44. | :31:52. | |
has been built on winning, and Jurgen Klopp's brilliant, we | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
recognise his abilities, he may be the right man. But at that point to | :31:56. | :32:00. | |
give a guy a contract extension when he has not won something goes | :32:01. | :32:05. | |
against what Liverpool used to stand for. Take the contract issue of the | :32:06. | :32:11. | |
of the way, have Liverpool not just had a bad month. Couldn't it be an | :32:12. | :32:17. | |
over reaction. Arsenal were renowned for having a bad November. This is | :32:18. | :32:22. | |
his first and a half season, has he just had a bad month? They have got | :32:23. | :32:28. | |
knocked out of both cups and lost a couple of league games and as we | :32:29. | :32:34. | |
have noticed with Pep Guardiola, and Ronald Koeman, coming in with | :32:35. | :32:40. | |
Everton and having a run of bad games, are they not learning, it is | :32:41. | :32:47. | |
his first full season. He tried to mix the team up against Southampton | :32:48. | :32:52. | |
and Plymouth and Wolves, maybe he, maybe next season he will think, I | :32:53. | :32:56. | |
have learned me lesson and move on. Sometimes you have got to see a | :32:57. | :33:01. | |
perspective on it. Looking Leon Osman getting the Liverpool view. | :33:02. | :33:05. | |
That is the difference between a good and bad month. I'm an ever | :33:06. | :33:17. | |
tonian, I want to keep him. You can't have a a bad run, if you look | :33:18. | :33:24. | |
at teams they did lose, lost to Southampton and Swansea and Wolves. | :33:25. | :33:31. | |
I think he should have after losing to Swansea and not beating | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
Southampton, he should have picked a strong team and they should have won | :33:37. | :33:39. | |
that game. He picked the team he felt would win and didn't to set | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
himself up for the Chelsea game. If he had that opportunity again, maybe | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
he would do it different. That is what I mean about learning the | :33:49. | :33:55. | |
league. We need to move on, but huge credit to Marco Silva? Yes they look | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
a different team and they're still putting the team together. There are | :34:00. | :34:04. | |
new signings. They look like they're capable of surviving and they looked | :34:05. | :34:10. | |
dead a few weeks ago. Jack said Jurgen Klopp is finding out pressing | :34:11. | :34:16. | |
like mad men will make you hit the wall quicker in England. They can't | :34:17. | :34:22. | |
break teams down and the clubs know how to play against him. A big game | :34:23. | :34:27. | |
in the Championship with Leeds playing Huddersfield. The most | :34:28. | :34:32. | |
anticipated West Yorkshire Derby in years. 1-1 at the break. Brown put | :34:33. | :34:43. | |
the home side ahead. A ball by Smith and Brown pounced. Leeds equalised | :34:44. | :34:49. | |
eight minutes later, Hernandez with the cross and Huddersfield defence | :34:50. | :34:52. | |
too busy waiting for an offside to be called. But Wood bundled home. | :34:53. | :35:04. | |
And there have been two chances for Huddersfield. But at the break it is | :35:05. | :35:13. | |
1-1. Thank you. Now Everton, 6-3 winners, what a game that was for | :35:14. | :35:21. | |
the neutral and the Everton fans. Romelu Lukaku, where is he in his | :35:22. | :35:26. | |
career, rejected by Chelsea, had a decent loan at West Brom. Has he | :35:27. | :35:30. | |
done everything he could do after being pushed out by Mourinho? Yes, | :35:31. | :35:35. | |
he is a goal scorer and he wants to score goals. That is what he has | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
done. He has come to Everton and playing some really great football. | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
He looks deadly in front of goal. I don't fancy him missing chances in | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
the box. As a striker, what more can you ask? He is scoring regularly and | :35:51. | :35:57. | |
you forget he is only 23. And at that stage he is probably still | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
improving and got a bit to go. Does he think he is bigger than Everton? | :36:03. | :36:07. | |
His agent certainly does. Do you think he does, you have trained with | :36:08. | :36:15. | |
him? I don't think he does. But with all your top strikers, they have an | :36:16. | :36:18. | |
arrogance about them. That is probably one of the things that | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
makes them as good as they are. They have a self-belief and they go out | :36:23. | :36:27. | |
and show that on the pitch. Four goals yesterday, top scorer in the | :36:28. | :36:33. | |
Premier League, he deserves to be that arrogance. You don't think he | :36:34. | :36:39. | |
will be there next year. Can you blame the play er? Finishing is one | :36:40. | :36:51. | |
area where me can improve. He gets into good position and he is so | :36:52. | :36:57. | |
powerful and quick. But his finishing yesterday was sublime. | :36:58. | :36:59. | |
There was rumours about Bayern Munich in the summer. There might be | :37:00. | :37:05. | |
big English clubs knocking on the door, or a German or Spanish club, I | :37:06. | :37:10. | |
think that is how good he is. Can you blame the player if he wants to | :37:11. | :37:17. | |
play f a Spanish giant comes in or a Manchester City or Chelsea. | :37:18. | :37:23. | |
Tottenham. I am not sure will they spend the money required. But what | :37:24. | :37:28. | |
it is doing or what he brings to Everton is tremendous. Let's hope he | :37:29. | :37:33. | |
stays for another season. I doubt it. If a big offers come in they | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
will sell him and then they have to plan for next season, because they | :37:38. | :37:40. | |
have a lot of talent there. But he would be a massive loss. What about | :37:41. | :37:48. | |
Everton in general. I said to Ronald Koeman has it become the top six and | :37:49. | :37:52. | |
the best of rest. He said I don't know what the best of the rest is. | :37:53. | :37:58. | |
He can't complain with the six above him? No, but he is a winner and that | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
has been important to Everton. He has not settled for just a good | :38:03. | :38:07. | |
season. He is ambitious, maybe ambitious for himself. That is a | :38:08. | :38:13. | |
factor. The young players coming in, we talked about Tom Davis, that has | :38:14. | :38:17. | |
been important to the team and he has brought in Schneiderlin and that | :38:18. | :38:27. | |
helps and they're two points behind United. I was asked a while back, | :38:28. | :38:32. | |
maybe there was seven or eight points between seventh and sixth a | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
can Everton make up the gap. I have said they have got to believe. If | :38:37. | :38:43. | |
they keep winning games, I feel they're big up to make up the gap. | :38:44. | :38:50. | |
They're clawing that back and with the run of games coming up, they're | :38:51. | :38:56. | |
winnable games. The way Manchester United have been going, they will be | :38:57. | :39:04. | |
thinking we can finish above them. Yes they have been on a great run | :39:05. | :39:12. | |
apart from the cup match. Jonathan, Saido Berahino. West Brom 1, Stoke | :39:13. | :39:17. | |
0. He came off the bench to boos. Has he come out of the situation not | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
looking too shabby. We are talking about Tony Pulis and Mark Hughes and | :39:23. | :39:28. | |
how they have fallen out. Are we missing the bigger picture? Yes it | :39:29. | :39:33. | |
is probably good that it has been about the managers for him. Whether | :39:34. | :39:36. | |
it was right or wrong. For people who don't know, Mark Hughes said he | :39:37. | :39:42. | |
is suspicious about how this story came out before the teams met. West | :39:43. | :39:47. | |
Brom we should say adamant it has been done above board and that all | :39:48. | :39:51. | |
the full details were give on the Stoke. I think these things should | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
come out any way. If you want to deter players from getting involved | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
in drugs, then you have to... Allegedly. You have to name and | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
shame and when somebody fails a test or there is an issue, it should be | :40:07. | :40:14. | |
made public. Why did Jake Livermore's come out and this | :40:15. | :40:21. | |
didn't? I think there is an anonymity. There is a bigger issue, | :40:22. | :40:25. | |
I think we should know. I think that will be a great deterrent. You want | :40:26. | :40:32. | |
to know and it to be above board. But West Brom handled it well to | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
keep it quiet and sell the player, if it had come out, I'm sure the | :40:37. | :40:42. | |
money would be reduced. West Brom handled it well to get as much as | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
they could. Anything to say on the that. No comment. Let's hope he | :40:48. | :40:53. | |
concentrates on his football. Because he is a wonderful talent and | :40:54. | :41:00. | |
it would be a shame if he doesn't fulfil the expectations of him. Only | :41:01. | :41:06. | |
a few minutes left and let's talk about Leicester against Manchester | :41:07. | :41:11. | |
United. Has Jose Mourinho gone on the attack. He has attacked about | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
his own players, saying they haven't that winning mentality and they're | :41:17. | :41:21. | |
in their comfort zones, he has had a go at Pep Guardiola. When he shaves | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
his head, does he turn into somebody else. Yes he has calmed down in | :41:27. | :41:31. | |
recent weeks and that coincided with a good run of results. But I just | :41:32. | :41:39. | |
don't get it when you have a go at the players. Because you will need | :41:40. | :41:44. | |
them again. It is a squad game with 25 games and publicly names and | :41:45. | :41:51. | |
shames people like Mkhitaryan, at some stage you need the players. I | :41:52. | :41:54. | |
don't know what he wants to achieve having a go at everybody. You need | :41:55. | :41:59. | |
to give the players belief and if they haven't got the winning | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
mentality, apart from Rooney and others, that is why he is there. Try | :42:05. | :42:09. | |
to instill the mentality and win trophies again. That is why he gets | :42:10. | :42:15. | |
top dollar. Do it. His agenda is the transfer market and he is | :42:16. | :42:20. | |
campaigning to be given another ?200 million to spend. He wanted to bring | :42:21. | :42:23. | |
in a defender and he was not able to. The slump has occurred and he is | :42:24. | :42:30. | |
saying I don't have enough winners. So he wants more signings. On | :42:31. | :42:38. | |
Mourinho, is it not all every where he goes there is a conspiracy theory | :42:39. | :42:48. | |
against him. It is like he gets bored and this what shall I do, come | :42:49. | :42:51. | |
out with an incredible statement. I'm not sure whether it is... The | :42:52. | :42:57. | |
conspiracy theory that he says, but with, you mentioned the players | :42:58. | :43:02. | |
don't have, I think it was the experience of winning troefives is | :43:03. | :43:08. | |
-- troefives is how -- trophies is how he phrased it. The players have | :43:09. | :43:12. | |
been brought to win trophies and it is up to him to help them and they | :43:13. | :43:16. | |
have experience with Rooney and those. And Leicester, spirit's gone. | :43:17. | :43:25. | |
What is happening? Dreadful recruitment, the tactics keep | :43:26. | :43:27. | |
changing and the spirit has been affected and even around them is | :43:28. | :43:32. | |
doing better and today is huge. Leicester and Manchester United, | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
full commentary on five live this afternoon and Manchester City | :43:38. | :43:43. | |
against swan say kicks off in half an hour. Gabby is here tonight with | :43:44. | :43:51. | |
Match of the Day Two and it is the Super Bowl too. That is on BBC1 at | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
11.20. From all of us, have a good one. | :43:58. | :44:00. |