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Welcome to Match of the Day two Extra. We're discussing the | :00:30. | :00:35. | |
weekend's football on BBC One, Radio Five Live and the BBC Sport website. | :00:36. | :00:41. | |
Coming up, we'll analyse how Liverpool so dominated Arsenal at | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
Anfield yesterday. We'll ask what it means for the title race, with | :00:45. | :00:47. | |
Chelsea impressing again, and Manchester City losing more points. | :00:48. | :00:50. | |
And there's a preview of today's matches, including Spurs against | :00:51. | :00:56. | |
Everton at White Hart lane. With us for the next 45 minutes are former | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
Arsenal and England defender Martin Keown, Match of the Day commentator | :01:00. | :01:03. | |
Guy Mowbray and The Sun's Chief Football Writer Shaun Custis You can | :01:04. | :01:06. | |
get in touch in all the usual ways: we want you to get involved as ever. | :01:07. | :01:17. | |
We are going to start with Liverpool's mauling of Arsenal. 5-1. | :01:18. | :01:30. | |
Let's hear from both managers. Obviously it is a high-profile game | :01:31. | :01:33. | |
and everybody is looking at it. The players have been brilliant. We were | :01:34. | :01:39. | |
trying to make this a real difficult place to come and that is what the | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
players are doing. It is a massive credit to them. We had a very poor | :01:43. | :01:49. | |
day defensively. From the top to the defence, everywhere we were beaten | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
defensively. Liverpool took advantage of it. They played well. | :01:54. | :02:00. | |
We were very poor. Only our fans were at the races today for 90 | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
minutes. Unfortunately, we were not. We get asked about being title | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
contenders and when you beat the leaders everybody will ask that | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
question. For me it has always been about finishing the best that you, | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
in the highest position. We have got your -- a lot of young players. And | :02:19. | :02:25. | |
we have have young players. 18, 19, 20. We are a team that has a lot of | :02:26. | :02:34. | |
growth left in it. But they are now finding consistency and confidence. | :02:35. | :02:37. | |
If they work hard, they can get the rewards. We will see where it takes | :02:38. | :02:46. | |
us. What kind of horse RU? We are just a fall! | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
Can we stop the horrors references? ! The express said it was COPPS | :02:51. | :02:59. | |
against flops yesterday. Brendan Rodgers talked about how hard they | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
are working. Did that stand out? It did and in spells. Very similar to | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
the last home game against Everton. I came out of the traps and flung | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
everything they had at Arsenal. They stepped off the gas a bit and | :03:16. | :03:21. | |
started the second half in the same pattern. They have got so much youth | :03:22. | :03:28. | |
and energy in the side, Brendan Rodgers is using it to go hell for | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
leather. It is working for Liverpool. They were superb. They | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
were last night he was pleased as punch, you could tell. He was | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
bubbling underneath. And Arsene Wenger was very honest in his | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
appraisal. I was expecting a prickly interview with the Arsenal boss. But | :03:47. | :03:58. | |
this time he held his hands up. Raheem Sterling took on some | :03:59. | :04:05. | |
responsibility. Make it happen yourself, do think yourself. He is a | :04:06. | :04:12. | |
good player. And Brendan says he is only young. But he is actually no | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
taking on responsibility and believing in himself. We will return | :04:16. | :04:21. | |
to Raheem Sterling in a moment. Martin, from an Arsenal point of | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
view, what are the answers that -- one of the answers Arsene Wenger did | :04:26. | :04:31. | |
yesterday was to talk about the 20 minutes, the dreadful opening 20 | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
minutes, conceding goals from set pieces. Does that isolate that 20 | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
minutes from the rest of the game? Yes, to a certain extent. Arsenal | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
were caught in another storm at the start of this matter. You look at | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
the emotion and energy at Anfield. Brendan has captured that. There are | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
front players are of the highest order. From an Arsenal point of | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
view, I know we want to talk about the game, but the real concern for | :05:02. | :05:07. | |
me is Mesut Ozil. I know he is criticising the defence. But there | :05:08. | :05:14. | |
is not enough energy. He said from the top all the way to the back. | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
Arsenal fans are looking for more energy from the team. They are | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
starting to look tired. The Crystal Palace game recently was very | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
difficult. Not the best performances. Psychological damage | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
to the team. They have to bounce back from this. Manchester United | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
coming up in mid is an opportunity to get some respect back, first of | :05:36. | :05:40. | |
all, and show the desire and arrogance you want to be champions. | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
Do you really believe Arsenal players believe in themselves? Not | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
enough players in that team have won big trophies. And there is only one | :05:50. | :05:56. | |
left to won under Arsene Wenger. It does not seem they have that | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
ultimate belief. There is an arrogance and a swagger about your | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
play. Some of the games this season, at Old Trafford they did not | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
play with that confidence. You have to believe in yourself. The manager | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
can have confidence but you have to have it yourself. You feel Arsenal | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
are building that. Yesterday a lot of people feeling Arsenal were not | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
the real deal. They have got to fight back and your personality and | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
character, do it out of adversity. People need to grow and develop as | :06:28. | :06:33. | |
individuals. Mesut Ozil was mentioned. He is a world-class | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
player. He has done a lot in the game. But again yesterday, as he has | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
been in several big games, he was not there. The third goal, Jordan | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
Henderson bullied him off the ball. He said on the floor pleading for a | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
free kick. They missed Flamini yesterday. He is coming from real | :06:52. | :06:59. | |
Madrid. There are fewer class players at Arsenal. He is the star | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
player. Certainly not playing like a star player. In a big game for | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
Arsenal, they have Manchester United at home, Spurs away, Bayern Munich | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
at the Champions League, for those big games, when you need to play a | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
certain way, if everybody was fit and free from suspension, would you | :07:20. | :07:26. | |
have Mesut Ozil in your starting 11? What are you to laughing at? ! It is | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
a worthy question. When you look at Aaron Ramsey at the start of the | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
season, Jack Wilshere, Santi Cazorla, I don't think you can leave | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
a player out of that quality without being criticised as the manager. | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
Maybe it is right to rest him but I don't think you can afford to when | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
you look at the fixtures. You have to believe in him even more now. | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
Trust in him and get him to produce. The talk is about possible | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
implosion. There is always a crisis at Arsenal. That is why he focused | :07:58. | :08:10. | |
on those 20 minutes, isn't it? The game became completely different. To | :08:11. | :08:16. | |
temper what you said. After they lost 6-3 at Manchester City, they | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
had not been beaten again until yesterday. They know how to recover. | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
When they get beat, they are getting beat. You have to give Arsenal | :08:27. | :08:34. | |
credit the way they have bounced back. There was a crisis at the | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
start of the season. The media seem to want to pick a little bit. They | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
didn't buy anybody in the transfer window. They pushed Arsene Wenger | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
into signing somebody at the start of the season. It is about keeping | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
balance. They will be hurting today. They have to prepare properly for | :08:54. | :08:59. | |
Wednesday. If you are going to have a bad day, have a bad day. Arsene | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
Wenger seems more irritated when they get narrowly beaten. Yesterday | :09:04. | :09:09. | |
they had to take it on the chin. He had no option. Here is Brendan | :09:10. | :09:14. | |
Rodgers on Raheem Sterling. For a kid to come into the club at | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
Liverpool at 17, in that opening six months of his time here, he was | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
outstanding. He had a difficult period in the second half of last | :09:24. | :09:27. | |
season. He has come back to the fore. I'm not sure there is a better | :09:28. | :09:30. | |
winger in England at this moment in time. He is so fast, direct, | :09:31. | :09:37. | |
dynamic. He also works very hard for the team. He presses the game well. | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
He has obviously got a couple. He is probably disappointed he did not | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
have a hat-trick. How impressed are you with how | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
Brendan Rodgers has handled Raheem Sterling? He was not in the side at | :09:50. | :09:56. | |
the start of the season. Very well. Raheem Sterling got into the England | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
squad when he was young. I think he has dealt with him superbly. | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
Sterling is showing a lot of maturity. He has taken on more | :10:06. | :10:12. | |
responsibility. Brendan Rodgers has seen that. He is putting a lot of | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
trust in a player who is very young. But it is justified. What is | :10:17. | :10:23. | |
everybody say that genocide is the next star when sterling has played | :10:24. | :10:33. | |
better? Has he played better? ! Sterling is having an excellent | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
period. It has taken in time. The two players who stood out from me in | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
their attitude, both during the match and afterwards, Raheem | :10:46. | :10:46. | |
Sterling and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. He had a rotten | :10:47. | :10:51. | |
first-half but he rolled his sleeves up and got into the game in the | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
second half. He was very sporting, mature and eloquent afterwards as | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
well. What about Flanagan? He has been pulling his weight and has had | :11:01. | :11:05. | |
great games. Tom in Blackpool says Liverpool have to be contenders for | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
the title. Six points off the top and they have to play Chelsea and | :11:10. | :11:12. | |
Manchester City at Anfield. I think so. Why say they are not contenders? | :11:13. | :11:19. | |
It is like saying you don't have faith in your team. Flannigan does | :11:20. | :11:27. | |
not produce unless the manager believes in him. I like the fact | :11:28. | :11:30. | |
they want to play these young English players. Henderson is | :11:31. | :11:38. | |
another one who has profited. When Henderson joined under Kenny | :11:39. | :11:47. | |
Dalglish, nobody believed in him. It has taken two years probably for him | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
to come through. We didn't know what the fuss was about. He is also | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
feeling stronger belief in himself. He is taking on responsibility | :11:56. | :12:00. | |
again. I saw a lot of Jordan Henderson as a young player at | :12:01. | :12:03. | |
Sunderland. He is a quality player. The attributes are there. I think | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
the move to Liverpool happen this too soon. It is his timing, his | :12:08. | :12:13. | |
runs, his energy is outstanding. Now he has got the quality. To finish | :12:14. | :12:19. | |
those chances, to find those passes. That comes from the environment | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
created by the manager. Brendan Rodgers is nurturing these players. | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
Sterling goes out, he comes back in again. It is about development. Do | :12:29. | :12:36. | |
you think Luis Suarez thinks it they cannot win the title? Do you think | :12:37. | :12:42. | |
he is not thinking they can have a go? That is why he has stayed. Are | :12:43. | :12:49. | |
we not in a season where everybody is playing it down? Yes, they seem | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
scared to think they could be title contenders. Manual Pellegrini has | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
probably accepted that Manchester City should be winning the title. | :13:01. | :13:07. | |
Some of the Arsenal texts. ASOS Eden -- need to buy some muscle. -- | :13:08. | :13:19. | |
Arsenal. They need Adams and Keown. It is written there! Arsenal have | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
ridden their local season. The majority of the team have no drive. | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
Arsenal made Liverpool look like Bayern Munich. Wenger has paid the | :13:30. | :13:33. | |
price for not buying in January. Mike Tyson sends one here, not that | :13:34. | :13:42. | |
Mike Tyson, do you think Arsenal can bounce back against Manchester | :13:43. | :13:49. | |
United? Yes. Manchester United playing today. Arsenal get 24 hours | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
rest. Arsenal have done exceptionally well at home this | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
season. It has just started to dip for Arsenal a little bit. It is | :14:00. | :14:06. | |
about finding form. I don't think it was about Arsenal yesterday. It was | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
about how good Liverpool were. Against Palace, they were not that | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
great. The first target was a struggle. The same with Manchester | :14:15. | :14:22. | |
City at home to Crystal Palace. Maybe so but I was expecting more | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
from Arsenal. Keep the text coming in. -- texts. Let's focus on the | :14:28. | :14:35. | |
first of today's games. Spurs against Everton at White Hart lane. | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
We will go to White Hart lane in a moment. First, Tim Sherwood. | :14:41. | :14:44. | |
The team that finishes fourth will be the ones that takes the most | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
points in and around them, and that includes Everton. It is very | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
important. I'm glad that the players think it is as important as I do. | :14:54. | :14:58. | |
They will be reminded it is a crucial game. It could be a | :14:59. | :15:07. | |
springboard. It is open for any team to put a run together. There are | :15:08. | :15:13. | |
teams around that spot who can put a nice run together and elevate | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
themselves. The top three are away, I think, too far for anyone to | :15:18. | 1:27:55 | |
catch. Steve Wilson Zat White Lane for Match Of The Day. Do you agree | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
with Tim Sherwood? Yes, he's probably right. If that is the case, | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
you would have to Liverpool favourites. Liverpool are in pole | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
position. They are five points better off than Everton, and six | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
points better off than Spurs. Given Liverpool's victory yesterday, you | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
would not want to lose today if you are Spurs or Everton. If it ends up | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
being a drop, that is not great for them either. The onus is on both | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
teams to try and win today. That will hopefully bode well for a good | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
attacking game. Will Roberto Martinez be concerned about | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Everton's recent away form? Everton do draw a few games, but you have to | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
look at their away form in the bigger picture. Where have they been | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
beaten this season? The only places they have been beaten are at | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Manchester City and Anfield. That is not a bad record. They are missing | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
some through injury. I think that situation will improve today. Gerard | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Deulofeu and Lacina Traore have travelled. I think Kevin Mirallas | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
has stepped up brilliantly over the last couple of weeks. He has become | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
a real force for Everton, particularly against Aston Villa the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
other week. At -- Everton have a lot of character about them. It is a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
mouthwatering one today. If there is a winner, they are hard done | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Liverpool's yields. -- they are hard on Liverpool's heels. Thank you. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
There is an interview in the Observer today. Some of the players | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
are talking about how training has changed under Tim Sherwood. He says | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
that now the training sessions are shorter and sharper. What is the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
difference for the players? My preference would be for short-term | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
and sharper sessions. Why? There is more of a period when you're | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
focused. You are trying to managed your energy levels. -- manage. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Sometimes it is a game during the week. You do not want to release too | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
much energy on the training pitch. I think he has simplified the sessions | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
and made them more enjoyable, by the sound of it. Andre Villas-Boas was | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
working to a set way of doing things. That is what we will find | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
out about Tim Sherwood on the tactical side. We know he is playing | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
two strikers. But the game is often won and lost in the midfield area. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
How were your sessions at Arsenal, Martin? I am wondering if this was a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
modern thing. I know that Gus Poyet when he took over, he made it 90 | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
minute training sessions? Sometimes every session finishes with a small | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
game. If you are out there for half an hour, you sometimes leave your | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
best stuff on the training pitch. It has all got to be done | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
scientifically. They manage the players now, they track the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
distances they covered in training. The manager needs to know who is | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
tired, who is not, and get the right energy into the sessions. Our Spurs | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
a better team under Tim Sherwood, better than they were under Andre | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Villas-Boas? No. Some people say that the ADB was unfairly dismissed. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
He was unlikely to leave his job. -- to lose his job. Tim Sherwood will | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
have to go into the job tactically. Bringing in a manual Adebayor, that | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
was a good move. AVB was not using him. He has been a big fine for | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
them. Do you think a lot has changed? I am not saying that, I am | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
asking if they are better team. They are pushing hired up the pitch. It | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
is not that anything has changed massively, but the players seem to | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
relate to Tim Sherwood more. They clearly wanted him. Sometimes that | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
is a problem, you like the manager. Is that always a bad thing -- a good | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
thing? It will be interesting to see how he manages it. He will not have | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
managed to much. He was the head of youth development. He will not have | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Dundee today management as such. This is a step up for him. I do not | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
want to see him lose that light touch. The first few games in | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
charge, he always had equipped. The next few games, more serious. -- a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
quip. He may only be there for the summer. They may bring someone else | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
in. He may have to enjoy it well he can. I think you're right about the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
freshness, and the players sensed that. The manager is a mirror image | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
of the team. He created the change, and he has got to keep doing that. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
The final thing about that article in the Observer, he says that Spurs | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
got to be considered favourites for fourth, because they have | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
experience, their experiences and fighting for fourth place. I am not | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
sure that I follow that one. They have the Europa League as well, to | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
get in the way. I will Tim Sherwood handle that? I think Liverpool title | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
contenders. They have to be favourites to drop down into fourth | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
place, if not. Let's talk about Chelsea. Jose Mourinho spoke to Gary | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Lineker on match of the game last night. His targets have remarkably | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
low. I know that today we are top of the league, but I look to the next | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
game. I want to be far from fifth place. When we are far from there | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
and we have a Champions League position under control, it will be | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
time to look to Manchester City, Arsenal, Liverpool, to see where | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
they are, to see the distances, and from that point we can start | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
thinking about other things. But that this moment, it is too far for | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
that. In the Premier League, it is very difficult to achieve every | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
objective. The Champions League spot is clear -- is our objective. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Step-by-step. We want to win the next match against West Brom. We | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
want your thoughts. Get in touch. Why is he playing it down so much, | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Shaun Custis? He did this at the start of the season. He said, in his | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
first press conference at Chelsea, I do not think we are title | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
contenders. When he brought in players during the transfer window, | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
is the said, -- he said, this is for next season. Suddenly you're | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
thinking, Chelsea are really contenders. He is box office, but he | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
is conning us. The Sunday mail today has Eden Hazard on the front cover. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Jose Mourinho said that he is the best player in the world of his age | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
group, to qualify. Of the 23 olds around in world football, he is at | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
the top at the moment? It is hard to argue with that at the moment. He is | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
certainly the best Premier League player in that bracket at the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
moment. It is the way that he drifts. He is a joy to watch. He | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
dictates the play. Jose Mourinho is talking a lot of sense when he | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
speaks about Hazard. He is talking rubbish when he says they are not | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
title contenders. You almost start to lose respect for him. I get the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
impression that they face that the players see, it is totally different | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
to what we see. I think he says to the players, this is ours to lose. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Think how he treated Hazard. Jose Mourinho basically gave him a one | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
match ban. He said, he is a good kid, but he has got to learn. He has | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
always been known as a bad trainer. But he has seen the Jose Mourinho | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
way, and fitted in. Jose Mourinho has identified the players in his | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
squad that can win him the league. He is one of them. He is making sure | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
that he can do the job, and he is now polishing him up. He is saying | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
that he is not getting the credit he deserves, he is trying to get awards | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
for him. It is a different message that we're getting on the outside. I | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
had him down as the first Portuguese James Bond. But to be honest, he has | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
not got a chance, because his acting is rotten. Lots of fans and people | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
in the media are saying, here he goes again, we do not believe what | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
he is saying. Do you think anything he has said over the last couple of | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
weeks has rattled Manuel Pellegrini and Manchester City? There is | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
history there. There is history from Spain. It is all to do with what he | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
said when he took over from Pellegrini at Real Madrid. That is | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
when it comes from. I think he has got under his skin a little bit. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Manuel Pellegrini has been nothing but a gentleman since he came to | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
this country. He is like a wise old owl. He did not let Alan Pardew get | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
under his skin when they had a touchline row. But on Monday night, | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
he appeared to be agitated after the match. I have actually felt that | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Manuel Pellegrini is pretty boring. We went to his opening press | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
conference, and we thought, this will be difficult, getting | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
interesting lines from him. But his team are doing their talking on the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
pitch. Manuel Pellegrini is probably thinking, I have got to get back to | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
what I am doing. Managers are not there to entertain us. No, but it is | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
good when they do. The thing about Jose Mourinho, and the line about | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
horses, it was very funny, very witty. It was someone speaking about | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
three horse race. That is he gives you. When Manuel Pellegrini came in, | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
you felt that Roberto Mancini was almost suffocating the team. This | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
guy is allowing them to play. I know they are without key players, but | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
everyone else's as well. You cannot moan about it. It is two key players | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
for Manchester City for the first time this season. Three players, in | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
fact. The stat we had last night was that they have had 39 shots in their | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
last three games, but only five of those have been on target. With the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
players they have got, you would think that they have enough | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
firepower took. But they are missing Sergio Aguero. You feel that Chelsea | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
have the feeling that this is ours. They are starting to grow. If you | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
had your manager giving a different message to the outside world, what | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
would you think, if it was a different message to what he was | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
saying to you? I think he would have a bit of a chuckle. You do not like | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
it when someone gets something over on your manager. Ferguson was | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
fantastic at the mind games. You felt that you were playing against | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
him as much as Manchester United. Jose Mourinho makes Chelsea sound | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
like a non-league club. They are the big teams, we are not up to it yet. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
This may be one of the best Chelsea teams that I can remember watching. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
They have got rid of Juan Mata, so that players like Oscar can play | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
regularly. One viewer has got in touch. Eden Hazard is the best | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
played in the Premier League at the moment. Robin Liverpool says, I | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
think it is Chelsea's title to lose. They have got the better defence | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
than Manchester City. Chelsea have better defenders. They will win the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
league. They are vulnerable and at the back, Manchester City. Bit of | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
coverage today about Yaya Toure and his kick at Wolves sprinkle. If they | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
look at that, they may have to look at what went on in the Cardiff game? | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
It is Manchester City at the top of the league and it is Yaya Toure. But | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
it is the same sort of thing. I don't think it is conclusive. It | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
looked bad but it has happened so quickly. That must happen 19 or 20 | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
times in a game. If it is going to be trialled by TV, let's roll them | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
all out. You cannot single one out. If you kick somebody a little bit, | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
is that OK? I think West Ham fans would be saying that Yaya Toure | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
should be done. I think it was a petulant kick out. No more than | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
that. Your point is, if you are going to kick out, do it as part of | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
a tackle? I think you should probably wait a bit and make a hard | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
tackle later. David Beckham got harangued by everybody from making a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
petulant kick out at the World Cup. I don't see there was much | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
difference. Let's get back to White Hart lane for the team news. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
One change for Tottenham this afternoon. Dembele is fit again and | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
comes into the side for Roberto Soldado. Andros Townsend is on the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
bench after eight weeks out with a hamstring injury. Someone he can | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
bring on in the second half if you need to. Everton's defence has been | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
stretched in recent weeks. Seamus Coleman comes in for John stones. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
One of three changes from their win against Aston Villa. Ross Barkley as | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
dropped to the bench. Steven Pienaar and Steven Naismith, in Fredericton. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
If you are listening to us from Five Live, there will be updates on that | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
game throughout the afternoon. It may be worth watching this back on | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
the iPlayer, just to see the ridiculous headwear being worn by | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
the Spurs players. Let's go to the Welsh derby. Swansea against | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Cardiff. Before we get the thoughts of our guests, let's hear from both | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
managers, head coaches, whatever their titles are. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
They could not have got much better. I was so focused on making sure the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
players were all right, I hadn't bought their head. Get the players | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
prepared and ready. Get the Swansea way. I understand all that stuff. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
That is what I tried to put across to the players and thankfully we get | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
a great performance. We going to these games with heart and head. The | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
passion will always be there in a game like this. They got off to a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
great start. We have got to respond on Tuesday. Obviously is not an | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Oscar, but I thank my family, the chairman, the Board of Directors, | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
the fans. It has been magnificent. I can't thank them enough. I guess we | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
have to carry on the work now and make sure the boys take the belief | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
of this game into the next games. The Kate Winslet of football | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
management! Richard has been in touch to ask how significant the win | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
over Cardiff will be in terms of steadying the ship at the Liberty | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Stadium? Very much so. It looked like getting rid of Michael Laudrup | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
was a big mistake, a few days before the biggest game ever, possibly, | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
against your local rivals. He has handled the situation beautifully. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
He looks as though he is really up for the job. He is only a young man | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
and there is big pressure. He has enjoyed the day. He knows it Inside | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Out, let's be fair. I think probably Hugh Jenkins will be looking to | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
bring somebody in with a lot more experience than he has. It is a big | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
job to manage Swansea City. Having said that, Gary Monk made a big | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
point of saying that he knows the Swansea City way. Hugh Jenkins has | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
always been very careful to make sure that every manager employed | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
knows the Swansea way. It may not necessarily be a high-profile name. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Yes. We cannot tell anything on one game. It is a local derby. It is a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
different breed of game. The players like him they with him. If you think | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
about it, and in Rogers, Roberto Martinez, Michael Laudrup, blend of | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
those three together and you have got a heck of a head coach. Is he | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
ready for it? They were surprised when Brendan Rodgers got the job | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
because he had not done well at Reading. But actually his philosophy | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
fitted the Swansea philosophy? Absolutely. Gary Monk is another one | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
that the players like. Do you only have a short period of time where | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
that works before he has to go into the transfer market? It is most like | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
a young player, if you are good enough, you are old enough. Nothing | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
can go wrong for him to end up with this job. I think he would be very | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
surprised if he ended up with it properly. There is a suggestion if | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
he does not get the main job he will be part of the coaching staff. You | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
do want that it succession plan in management. White Alan Curtis has | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
been there throughout all of it. Do not like players to become managers? | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
They are going with their mate, Gary Monk. We want to do it for him etc. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
I don't know how long you get a feel good factor out of that before you | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
have to prove yourself much more. What does it say about Cardiff? They | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
are not very good! I saw them playing Manchester United earlier in | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
the season and they were excellent. Really strong, the crowd were Fred, | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
fantastic. There was a feel-good factor. And Vincent Tan seems to | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
have killed it. I'm not saying that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is not going to | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
be a good manager, I think he probably will prove to be. But he | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
has come in at a difficult time. All of the teams in the bottom three | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
have new managers. They were not in the bottom three when they appointed | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
those managers. He has not had the effect. Let's hear from another of | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
those new managers, Rene Meulensteen of Fulham. Fulham go to Manchester | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
United this afternoon. He says he has been taking advice from his | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
former boss at Old Trafford. Sir Alex Ferguson knows what I am | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
capable of and he is the first man to reassure me, to say, stick to | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
your beliefs, you know what you are capable of doing. That's what I am | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
doing. He said I need to stay optimistic, make sure the work we | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
have done is good. I cannot fault the players for one minute. Every | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
effort they have put into the training pitch. Day in, day out. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Does the managerial structure and Fulham surprise you? I'm not sure | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
surprises me. I wonder how long it can't continue like that. Rene | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Meulensteen was brought in to help Martin Jol. A few days later he was | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
in charge. Alan Curbishley brought in to help Rene Meulensteen. He is | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
no technical director. The idea is that he's helps to sort out the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
defence. It has got litre. That's Magid has got more leaky. I just | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
wonder if Fulham have got too many players of too much quantity and not | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
enough quality. They have had a problem shifting the older players. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
They are an ageing squad. They brought in a player who may not be | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
totally fit. The thing that worries me is we have not got -- we have a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
group of cultures and nobody knows who is the manager. If I am a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
player, I need direct management. A lot of good cultures but there has | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
to be a leader among those men to give them direction. I think it is a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
big Ascot for Fulham. I can understand, the Sheffield United cup | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
replay in the week, AIDS changes made, it is almost giving people a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
game for the sake of the game. -- eight changes. It is another hammer | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
blow. What is Fulham's best team? See borrowing ideas from Alex | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Ferguson? -- is he borrowing. You surely cannot manage a team at the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
bottom the way you manage a team at the top? You pass the ball out from | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
the back, if you have a philosophy, yes. He made a mistake in the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
midweek. As far as Manchester United are concerned, is it a big mistake | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
to let a village leaves? Either any current players are good enough to | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
replace him? -- are there any current players. Did you described | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
him as a quitter yesterday? I have a great deal of respect for him, by | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
the way. He is one of the best centre halves. It doesn't sit with | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
me very well that he is willing to quit the club in this manner. I was | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
entrenched in the Arsenal theme. You had to push me out of the club | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
kicking and screaming. Somebody would have to push me out before I | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
was told to go. There was not a contract on the table for him. Why | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
is he insecure about that? If he wants to make that position his | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
own, he dictates that by his performance from now until the end | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
of the season. If David Moyes had wanted him... Maybe that is it. He | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
has picked up the vibe from the manager. There must be something | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
wrong in that dressing room. Manchester United have had that | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
changing hands with players. You want that experience in the dressing | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
room. He is one of those. There are several subjects there. On who it | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
gets passed down to in the dressing room, you could argue that | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Ferdinand, village are over 30. Evans is 26, Rooney, Darren | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Fletcher... The next generation are ready to take that mantle. If you | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
keep him, how are you going to help Chris Smalling, Jones etc? Is | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
partnerships. David Moyes has said he would sooner play a young | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
goalkeeper than a young central defender. If that applies, keep him | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
at the club. He has never been the most mobile. It is nothing new that | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
he has lost his mobility. He is losing the support of his manager. I | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
think you should stay there and fight for his club. It is a massive | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
club. You only go downhill when you leave Manchester United. I feel he | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
has the necessary skills to play that position for a number of years. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Jonny Evans has become virtually the senior defensive player. Vidic Has | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
played 54 games in the last three seasons combined. That is why a new | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
contract is not there. He is missing too many games. Smalling and Evans | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
have played the majority of games. Jones not so much. I don't think it | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
is a big deal for David Moyes now. What David Moyes needs to do now is | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
work out who is playing there. Is it going to be Chris Smalling or is it | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
going to be Phil Jones? If you are a young player, look at Skrtel. Jamie | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Carrigan has gone and Skrtel has been given the role to play. He is a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
different player. Chris Smalling is slowly starting to build a | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
reputation. He has been a utility player. He has not had the | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
opportunities. Jones is a utility player as well, it seems to me. With | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
then you feel like you are a jack of all trades, master of nothing, | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
really. I personally would like to have seen Vidic with Smalling. I am | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
not convinced by Phil Jones. I am not sure where he is going to play. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
We still do not know now. I feel that if Ferdinand is not going to be | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
there, you keep Vidic. You need to get to Old Trafford! Thank you to my | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
guests. Five Live for Manchester United against Fulham. Updates from | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
Tottenham. Bye-bye. The Six Nations | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
continues on Saturday with Ireland's massive | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
clash with holders Wales, followed by Scotland against | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
England in the Calcutta Cup. On Sunday, France | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
play host to Italy. The Six Nations - our fiercest | 1:27:56 | 1:27:55 | |
rivals are those who are closest. | 1:27:56 | 1:27:56 |