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Hello, welcome to Match Of The Day 2 Extra. Plenty to discuss on BBC One, | :00:31. | :00:40. | |
BBC Radio 5 Live and the BBC sport website over the next 45 minutes. We | :00:41. | :00:45. | |
will look at the Euro 2016 qualifying draw. We will ask if | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
Liverpool can stay apace after winds yesterday for Chelsea, City and | :00:51. | :00:53. | |
Arsenal. There is a chill in the air at Cardiff, their trip to Abu Dhabi | :00:54. | :00:59. | |
cancelled after their 4-0 thrashing by Hull. And David Moyes celebrates | :01:00. | :01:03. | |
Wayne Rooney's new deal with a win at Crystal Palace. With me we have | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
Kevin Kilbane, Andy Dunn from the Sunday Mirror and we have BBC | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
sport's Ben Smith. If you want to get in touch, we want your views, | :01:13. | :01:13. | |
thoughts and opinions. We will look at the Premier League | :01:14. | :01:27. | |
very shortly. As the Euro 2016 qualifying draw has just been made, | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
we will discuss that first of all. If you are watching on the | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
television, you can see the three guests are massively excited by what | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
they have just seen. Convey that excitement to the radio listeners as | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
well, Kevin Kilbane! Looking at the top end of the draw, looking at the | :01:46. | :01:49. | |
Irish draw, against Germany, Poland, Scotland, Georgia and Gibraltar, I | :01:50. | :01:54. | |
think it is a tough draw. I really do think that. Looking at England as | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
well, with Switzerland. I think England have a decent draw. For the | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
Irish and Scotland I think it will be good games, but a tough draw for | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
Ireland and Scotland qualify. This the thing, you get the draw made and | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
you look for a group of death, that is the cliche. This draw, we are | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
looking for a group of interest? That is the Scotland and Republic of | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
Island draw, in with Poland, Germany, Georgia and Gibraltar. I | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
think the fans will look at the draw and that is the one they will go | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
for, the excitement and the games they can see. England will be | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
delighted from a points perspective. There is no excuse if they do not | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
qualify from that group. Inspiring the fans, getting people into sea | :02:37. | :02:42. | |
games at Wembley, the likes of Estonia, Slovenia, San Marino, that | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
is not going to excite anyone. I think you have to say this with a | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
Scouse accent, but it is what we call a group of deffo. It is. I | :02:52. | :02:57. | |
agree with Ben. One of the issues is how you promote these games, sell | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
these games. England will qualify. In a way, it is good to see these | :03:03. | :03:08. | |
lesser teams in the tournament, the tournament expanded. But on the | :03:09. | :03:11. | |
other hand it does take out the uncertainty. Any element of | :03:12. | :03:14. | |
uncertainty about the major nations qualifying has been totally removed. | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
Any uncertainty about England qualifying has been removed. It does | :03:19. | :03:25. | |
give them a chance to qualify. It's good from Scotland, Wales and | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
Northern Ireland's perspective, it gives them more of a chance to | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
qualify, but is it evaluate the tournament? Euro 2012 was a | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
brilliant tournament, you go back through the 16 team tournament, it | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
is an outstanding format, really top, top tournaments. I think what | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
will happen is that nations such as England, I am not over inflating | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
their capability, but they will qualify, it almost becomes a build | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
up to eight tournament, rather than a qualification for the tournament. | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
England will maybe use of those games to blood new players. They can | :03:58. | :04:05. | |
take... Not risks, but they can give them a chance of competitive | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
football. The great selling point in the past was that many people | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
thought it was more difficult to win than a World Cup, because of the | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
quality. Nothing is dilutive in the tournament. We have lost that. On | :04:18. | :04:20. | |
the other side, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, perhaps they thought it was | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
their chance to get into the top teams again, but in that group it is | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
tricky. It will still be difficult for them to qualify with the teams | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
around them. If you're looking at Ireland and Scotland, of course they | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
have a chance. Apart from Germany, you say they will qualify | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
definitely, you could beat Poland at home, you could certainly be Georgia | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
and Gibraltar, you would fancy your chances. It's just a good draw. | :04:46. | :04:53. | |
Wales in with Bosnia, Cyprus and Belgium. Northern Ireland with | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
Greece, the Faroe Islands, Bulgaria and Hungary. Do you think there is a | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
danger, when you look at a draw like this, because the tournament has | :05:03. | :05:05. | |
been expanded and there will be 24 teams, as opposed to 16 just gone, | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
is there a danger that we look at this sometimes from the arrogance of | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
the English? I know that might annoy English people watching and | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
listening, but the Scots, Welsh and Northern Ireland will probably be | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
nodding along and say that England can be arrogant and it isn't just | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
about the big nations? I totally agree, it can come across like that. | :05:26. | :05:31. | |
It's important that what this does, expanding the tournament 24 teams, | :05:32. | :05:33. | |
it will give nations a chance to qualify who not normally qualify. | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
Players like Gareth Bale, Aaron Ramsey, if you keep it up 16 teams, | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
Wales will have a tough task to qualify. They may go through their | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
careers not playing in major tournament finals. What this does is | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
give nations with good individual players the chance for those players | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
to experience tournament football. From that point of view it is good. | :05:55. | :06:01. | |
If you go back to the early... Around 82, 84, I still have strong | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
memories of England playing Turkey and qualifiers. I remember 86. Do | :06:06. | :06:12. | |
you want me to push you off that chair? Maybe it was 86. Just pretend | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
to be the same age as you! But England were eight or nine past | :06:18. | :06:27. | |
Turkey. It was eight, two, four, six eight, roast turkey on a plate! But | :06:28. | :06:34. | |
you look at how Turkey has developed? You have to take the | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
longer term view? It's important for these nations, for their developing. | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
A lot of these countries are allegedly knew, from the break-up of | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
the Eastern Bloc, they are developing nations, 20 or 40 years | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
old. They need the experience of being in with a shout qualifying. If | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
we balance of a lack of interest the qualifying with giving other nations | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
a chance, the top two from every group goes through, the third is | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
going to the play-off, best place to side qualifies automatically. Where | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
UEFA could be criticised is how these qualifiers are going to be | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
scheduled and staggered. They have changed that as well? We will see a | :07:12. | :07:16. | |
change to the international calendar in the coming September. This week | :07:17. | :07:23. | |
of football that UEFA and Pasini Billy Platini had been trying to | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
organise, it means teams will play two games, Friday and Monday, | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
Saturday and Tuesday, Monday and Wednesday, it is interesting for the | :07:32. | :07:38. | |
fans. But it's a nightmare for club managers and it will be interesting | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
to see how it's going to work. It means you are not scrabbling between | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
seven different channels trying to keep up with this or that game? The | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
problem with the clubs, they are going to be kicking up a fuss just | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
by letting the players go and they want to keep their players back at | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
the clubs around the big international is. How difficult will | :07:56. | :08:01. | |
it be for players? Take us through a Premier League dressing room when | :08:02. | :08:04. | |
players arrived back from international duty. Do you arrive | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
back in dribs and drabs, even under the current system? That is aside | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
from lads coming back from South America and Africa. When we used to | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
have internationals, you would play Wednesday night and I invariably, | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
you would try to get back into your club Thursday morning, you would get | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
yearly flight, not fully recovered, trying to get back for a recovery | :08:23. | :08:25. | |
session on Thursday morning for training. You are not fully | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
recovered on Friday. By speaking to so many international players | :08:31. | :08:32. | |
saying, we had a nightmare on Saturday, we were not fully | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
recovered or prepared for that game for the club. You are not physically | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
ready for it. You could have situations where one club team have | :08:42. | :08:44. | |
a load of international players that finish on Sunday, another one might | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
be playing that coming weekend, they might not have them back until | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
Wednesday. When you are flying to Eastern Europe, if you are playing | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
the cars at Stans, the problem is getting back, logistically, I | :08:56. | :09:06. | |
difficult. -- Kazakhstan. Wayne Rooney must be made up, he has a | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
chance of beating the England goal-scoring records. Then says that | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
the qualifiers will be without interest, even third placed teams | :09:15. | :09:18. | |
have a good chance of qualifying, it will be boring. Dave says that to | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
keep football relevant, a way has to be found to avoid so many this | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
matches, there are almost no matches that whet the appetite. Henry Winter | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
has contacted us, forget quits for ?1, I think adults should be let in | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
for free to some of these games. -- kids. Group I, France are going to | :09:36. | :09:46. | |
be put in that group, Andy Dunn, just to give them some football. | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
Apparently, it is difficult for host countries to arrange friendlies? | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
It's a novel idea, the first time I think it has happened, basically, I | :09:56. | :10:02. | |
think it is too rounded up to 54 teams, rather than anything else, to | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
give it an even number. You could argue if you are looking at quite a | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
lot of the games, France are going to Portugal twice, it might not be | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
bad to watch, albeit nothing riding on it? I am sure in London would | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
have loved to have France in the group, a game at Wembley, it would | :10:19. | :10:21. | |
have been great for broadcasters, it could have really capture the | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
imagination and there would not have been anything riding on it. That | :10:26. | :10:32. | |
kind of a game just doesn't exist in England was not grow group in the | :10:33. | :10:38. | |
current draw. Get in touch with us and put more of your thoughts and | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
opinions to us shortly. Let's move to the Premier League. Yesterday, | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
Arsenal, Manchester City and Chelsea won in very differing ways. It's | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
down to Liverpool to respond to that this afternoon. It is one of the | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
1:30 games, at home to Swansea. Brendan Rodgers is taking on his | :10:56. | :10:58. | |
former club. Here is the Liverpool manager. It gives us a chance to | :10:59. | :11:04. | |
ensure that players's fitness levels are correct. We can take in the | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
week, in terms of focusing on the one game. The more games you have, | :11:11. | :11:13. | |
you are playing and recovering. You could say that when you are in a cup | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
competition sometimes they can give you that extra prop to move forward | :11:17. | :11:22. | |
in your league campaign as well. As I said, for us, we are very | :11:23. | :11:29. | |
determined. It is just narrowing the focus onto each and every one of | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
these games and looking to be at our maximum. Brendan Rodgers, there. | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
Jonathan Pearce is doing this game for Match Of The Day 2. Talking | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
about how they have been beaten by Arsenal in the FA Cup, they don't | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
have that destruction, it was not much of a distraction for them | :11:47. | :11:49. | |
anyway, was it? There were progressing well even when they were | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
in the FA Cup? It is expressed as disappointment and a half of the | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
funds for going out of the FA Cup. I have just bumped into him about five | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
minutes ago, he is still playing down Liverpool's chances. That is | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
his way, really. He's not going to show from the rooftops and say they | :12:06. | :12:08. | |
can win the title, they certainly have the attack forced to win the | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
title, and attack force that should worry Swansea very much today. When | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
a group 2-2 early on, Luis Suarez was still suffering from his | :12:17. | :12:22. | |
suspension. -- when they won two - two. Sturridge, seven games in a | :12:23. | :12:29. | |
row. The two of them are a very potent strikeforce and I think they | :12:30. | :12:32. | |
will be too quick for the Swansea defence. The sprinklers have started | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
and it is raining as well. Of course, it will make it slicker and | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
better suited for the forwards. That is what I was going to go on about. | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
I think Swansea will struggle. Liverpool need to win. They saw the | :12:49. | :12:51. | |
teams above them win yesterday. They know what they need to do. There is | :12:52. | :12:56. | |
a real reliance about Liverpool, a real confidence, and assured look | :12:57. | :12:59. | |
about them. This is a very, very good team in the making. A tough | :13:00. | :13:06. | |
game for Swansea, who did well against Napoli and could have won | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
the game. I thought Britton was superb. But they have had fewer days | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
to prepare and I think that will count against them. We will let you | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
go so you don't get too wet. The sprinklers are still on him. We will | :13:20. | :13:26. | |
let him go. He has put his hood up. Let's focus on Daniel Sturridge, | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
first. Michael has sent a tweet. Can you | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
class Daniel Sturridge as world class? No, not yet. I don't think | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
you can. I think he needs to do it at Champions League level, that is | :13:40. | :13:42. | |
the important thing. That is why it is important that Liverpool qualify. | :13:43. | :13:45. | |
What I do like about him at the moment is what I think was levelled | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
against him, though that City and Chelsea, maybe he was not that | :13:50. | :13:55. | |
adaptable. You didn't like coming in off the left, or off the flank, he | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
only wanted to play centrally. The suggestion was he kicked up a bit of | :14:01. | :14:03. | |
a fuss when he had to adapt and fit into another system. 40 Seattle in | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
the pool was that he is willing to fit into wherever Brendan Rodgers | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
wants to play him. The game where they destroyed Arsenal, who played | :14:13. | :14:18. | |
centrally to exploit a lack of space from Mertesacker. He is also adept | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
at cutting inside with Suarez to the centre. I like the fact that he | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
seems to have brought into the Brendan Rodgers idea, this Liverpool | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
way that maybe he didn't at Chelsea and Manchester City. Depends what | :14:31. | :14:40. | |
you mean by world-class. You would buy Daniel Sturridge. You buy him | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
for what he can give you, goal-scoring and everything. He is | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
in that world-class bracket but hast to prove it in the top bracket with | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
Liverpool in the Champions' League before he can be considered along | :14:57. | :14:59. | |
with the greats now. Ben Smith, how much credit you think Brendan | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
Rodgers deserve simply from a coaching point of view? In this era | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
where everybody thinks they can be a football manager. You play it on the | :15:10. | :15:15. | |
computer and you say, I can do that. With Rendon Rodgers, you can | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
properly see players developing under him. You can see them in | :15:20. | :15:27. | |
proving? Absolutely right. If we go back to Daniel Sturridge, when he | :15:28. | :15:31. | |
came in there was a reluctance on Brendan Rodgers' part to bring him | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
in. Could have taken him in the summer, did not want to, wasn't sure | :15:37. | :15:41. | |
then brought him in in the January. He has worked closely with him on | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
the field and also his attitude off the field. That has gone through the | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
whole squad, the team feel they belong and they wanted. There hasn't | :15:51. | :15:55. | |
been any difficulty or bad atmosphere. Look at Jon Flanagan, he | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
was considered to be leaving the club as well. Here's another one who | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
has progressed in the last few months and gone on to establish | :16:07. | :16:09. | |
himself as a top defender in that squad. Some people say his greatest | :16:10. | :16:15. | |
triumph might be Jordan Henderson. Again, people write into the wake | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
Brendan Rodgers coaches. The way he sets up his teams is impressive. And | :16:22. | :16:28. | |
mostly Steven Gerrard in this role, pulling the strings behind Jordan | :16:29. | :16:37. | |
Henderson and Philippe Coutinho. They keep desertion, not hurting | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
teams in behind, albeit Luis Suarez was doing that. I was at the | :16:43. | :16:50. | |
Merseyside derby and the way they closed Everton down and stopped | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
them. Raheem Sterling's workrate was outstanding. That is the cornerstone | :16:55. | :17:02. | |
of their success. It is pressing high up the pitch and getting the | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
ball back quickly when they lose it and going straight back up their | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
opposition. A text says, no disrespect to Swansea but we must | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
beat teams of their standard. The way Chelsea got the win yesterday, | :17:18. | :17:24. | |
they will win the title. Swansea, Garry Monk and all of them winning | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
the Derby against Cardiff, they are still, as you look at the table this | :17:29. | :17:31. | |
morning, four points above the relegation zone? It is a massive job | :17:32. | :17:38. | |
for him to get them away from it. Think there are a few worst teams | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
and I think that will be their saviour this season. They were | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
impressive against Natalie and they could have won that game. Going back | :17:48. | :17:54. | |
to Anfield today, it will be another big test. But I think they have got | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
enough to get out of trouble. Do you think there is an advantage for | :18:00. | :18:06. | |
Garry Monk? Because he knows the club inside out and he knows the | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
players? You can see the way the players react did when they beat | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
Cardiff. The players were running across the field and he has a lot of | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
respect. I don't think they will win today but I think it does have a big | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
advantage. Let's talk about the other sides in the race for the | :18:26. | :18:34. | |
title. We will start with Chelsea who won in injury time against | :18:35. | :18:36. | |
Everton. Roberto Martinez said he felt Chelsea had used every trick in | :18:37. | :18:43. | |
the book to secure all three points? The disappointments, the know-how of | :18:44. | :18:51. | |
the holding team of how to get free kicks and dead. As a referee you | :18:52. | :18:58. | |
need to have a crystal ball. It is impossible to get the decision right | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
and it became a bit of an impossible case. Obviously we defended well. We | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
had to defend many dead ball situations and we did that well. In | :19:07. | :19:15. | |
injury time it is a harsh reality. That interview is all over the | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
papers this morning. Front page of the Sunday mail. Says, " Martinez | :19:21. | :19:30. | |
left fuming over Chelsea's tricks". Is he right to be fuming? I am not | :19:31. | :19:38. | |
sure a crystal ball would help a referee, by the way. He said every | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
trick, trying to get a free kick in a dangerous area. Every team does | :19:45. | :19:46. | |
that. When he came into the press conference, he started talking in a | :19:47. | :19:53. | |
complimentary fashion about the way his team played, and he is right, | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
Everton played well. But it came out of the blue when he said Chelsea | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
used dirty tricks. They didn't, it was more a case of Everton getting | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
tired. The crucial free kick, Ramires come on. He is very good, | :20:09. | :20:15. | |
powerful player and they were tiring and they were running past tiring | :20:16. | :20:22. | |
Everton players. The fact of the matter is, they should have defended | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
the free kick better. I agree with that. Maybe Leighton Baines could | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
have prevented him getting in. But the quality of the ball Frank | :20:33. | :20:42. | |
Lampard put in, was amazing. And Tim Howard's I line seemed to be taken | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
by John Terry. John Terry did well to react and get in. It is typical | :20:47. | :20:54. | |
hard-nosed Jose Mourinho style. That goal will not make it into the end | :20:55. | :21:00. | |
of the season highlights package, but it is one of those moments if | :21:01. | :21:04. | |
Chelsea are going to win the league. Everton played so well. They didn't | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
go there just to defend, did they, Everton? Same at the Emirates, they | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
played well but did not create and that was the big problem. Everton | :21:16. | :21:18. | |
played so much good football throughout. Also the striker they | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
were going to play, pulled his hamstring in the warm up. Then he | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
had to reshape the team, so they did not have an attacking focal point. | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
They did play well. Chelsea used to strikers, they were terrible | :21:35. | :21:49. | |
yesterday. Torres came on and was a half-hour cameo of what he could do | :21:50. | :21:56. | |
wrong, he did do wrong. A tweet said Will the lack of forward firepower | :21:57. | :22:01. | |
catch up with Chelsea? All of those top teams have a weakness, whether | :22:02. | :22:09. | |
it is Chelsea's lack of a striker going forward, Manchester City not | :22:10. | :22:12. | |
being able to shut the back door, Arsenal have lost heavily at the | :22:13. | :22:18. | |
Etihad Stadium against Liverpool. I've been Chelsea just have enough. | :22:19. | :22:21. | |
They have experience and the know-how. In some of the papers this | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
morning, Didier Drogba has been linked with a return with a playing | :22:28. | :22:37. | |
return or the Sunday Times suggesting he will come back as a | :22:38. | :22:40. | |
striker's coach. You will hear more as that goes on. | :22:41. | :22:47. | |
Is that because they are playing Galatasaray? Yes, they play them | :22:48. | :22:57. | |
will stop he is out of contract in July and he has a number of offers. | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
He will take his time. He will definitely play one more season. I | :23:03. | :23:09. | |
understand his family do like living in London. I'm not sure they still | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
are. His son was at Chelsea? He has three children who are still at | :23:16. | :23:21. | |
school in London. He can also help develop the strikers within the | :23:22. | :23:29. | |
squad. Whether or not he will come back and have a major impact, I | :23:30. | :23:37. | |
don't know. You look at Chelsea's 1-0 win and you look at Manchester | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
City's 1-0 win and you think they ought to be similar. Chelsea | :23:43. | :23:50. | |
celebrated their 1-0 win more the citrus leader Manchester City did. | :23:51. | :23:55. | |
Manuel Pellegrini said they just won ugly against Stoke? They did, when | :23:56. | :24:03. | |
you look at the reaction. Babs it might have been the circumstances, a | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
last-minute goal against a top Everton side. Stoker caused problems | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
the city and showed their vulnerabilities at the back that we | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
have seen. You start to question when you see how exposed they become | :24:20. | :24:25. | |
at the back. That was their first Premier League goal in almost a | :24:26. | :24:31. | |
month. They scored 16 Premiership goals in January, but they miss | :24:32. | :24:42. | |
Sergio Aguero. Also they need someone to get hold of the game. | :24:43. | :24:55. | |
Without the grade, -- Sergio Aguero, you need Negredo. They say they | :24:56. | :25:04. | |
should be resting players because of the Champions' League. It is great | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
to be in the cup final and the FA Cup, but I think Chelsea will play | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
two more games in the league before Manchester City play again. So | :25:14. | :25:19. | |
Chelsea could be nine points clear by the time the next time Manchester | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
City play again in the league. If Chelsea are in form next week, and | :25:24. | :25:30. | |
Tottenham Hotspur and then they come back into the league and find they | :25:31. | :25:33. | |
are nine points behind Chelsea. It plays on their minds. Even when you | :25:34. | :25:39. | |
have The Games in hand, is it the fact other sides could be further | :25:40. | :25:45. | |
ahead? It plays in your head when you have the Saturday game and the | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
other teams are playing on a Monday. You're looking round to see, you | :25:50. | :25:56. | |
have to win this game. Seeing Manchester City win yesterday, they | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
did not look like they were going to open up Stoke. Stoke were defending | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
well and defending deep. It could have been a 6-point ad vantage, a | :26:05. | :26:10. | |
5-point advantage over Manchester City. It could have been a huge goal | :26:11. | :26:20. | |
for them. We said yesterday, head of the last two league cup finals, all | :26:21. | :26:22. | |
four sides involved in those games were beaten the week before. | :26:23. | :26:28. | |
Liverpool, Swansea and Bradford before last year's final, Manchester | :26:29. | :26:35. | |
City struggled yesterday. Sunderland were thumped at Arsenal. Kevin, they | :26:36. | :26:42. | |
did not help themselves at times. They tried to play out of the back | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
which is what Gus Poyet at once them to do, but that cost them at times? | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
Gus Poyet at spoke about how he likes to get his team set up. He | :26:52. | :26:58. | |
said he will never change it. I was talking to him about his philosophy. | :26:59. | :27:05. | |
He said, we will never change that, I want players to express | :27:06. | :27:08. | |
themselves, use the goalkeeper at times and the back four. But it did | :27:09. | :27:18. | |
cost them. It was the new Argentine player, he played the backpass | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
blind. It was an absolute error. But that is the sort of thing that can | :27:24. | :27:29. | |
cost you. He stepped in, looking forward, ended up playing a simple | :27:30. | :27:36. | |
pass and it cost them. Barcelona were playing one touch football? | :27:37. | :27:42. | |
Giroud being back in the team looked fresh. I do like that play. They | :27:43. | :27:57. | |
seem to have an understanding. If you factor in the route has played | :27:58. | :28:03. | |
in every game for his country as well since the middle of August. It | :28:04. | :28:11. | |
is a ridiculous amount of games. When he was at real Madrid he was | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
quite often brought off? He has looked like a player who needs a | :28:17. | :28:21. | |
rest. I was at Anfield and I think Jordan Henderson pinched the ball | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
off him and he did not have the energy to chase him down. You | :28:26. | :28:31. | |
mention yah yah Toure, you need those players to step up and take | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
you over the line. He was brilliant at Newcastle. You need that. So Ozil | :28:37. | :28:43. | |
can have a few days off, come back stronger and play at Arsenal. When | :28:44. | :28:52. | |
you are a record signing, will you get more criticism? Definitely the | :28:53. | :28:57. | |
case. You're looking for Attallah 's Matip character to get you through. | :28:58. | :29:04. | |
-- talismanic. Arsenal were flying at the time when he signed. We had | :29:05. | :29:09. | |
Ramsey playing so well, Giroud was playing well, so when you have your | :29:10. | :29:17. | |
down spell, and he has looked tired. When you are winning, rue revel in | :29:18. | :29:23. | |
his luxurious talent. When Arsenal are losing we want him to be Lee | :29:24. | :29:27. | |
Cattermole. His workrate is not going to be high, he is not going to | :29:28. | :29:34. | |
win any tackles. Also injuries and suspensions have made him work that | :29:35. | :29:39. | |
bit harder and exposed him a bit more. You look at it from a | :29:40. | :29:45. | |
player's point of view, saying he is pointing at players, but when you | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
see him pointing the finger, it highlights something that is not | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
there. I don't like to see that. If I was disappointed, I would go to | :29:55. | :30:06. | |
him in the dressing room. And also Mertesacker stopped when they were | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
playing Liverpool. You cannot just lame him for the way he is | :30:12. | :30:16. | |
performing. Another tweet, Arsenal played well, but they lack against | :30:17. | :30:21. | |
big teams like Manchester City and Chelsea. Which is what you are | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
saying earlier. Let's focus now on the bottom half of the table. The | :30:26. | :30:33. | |
standout result was Cardiff's 4-0 home defeat by Hull. Solskjaer | :30:34. | :30:40. | |
suggested they created more chances in the first half and didn't take | :30:41. | :30:43. | |
them, but that doesn't alter the fact they conceded four at home, | :30:44. | :30:48. | |
against another side who were promoted last season? Absolutely. A | :30:49. | :30:53. | |
side that have invested very well, actually. He said they created more | :30:54. | :30:56. | |
chances, I remember Norwich creating more chances at Cardiff, and won the | :30:57. | :31:02. | |
game. That is what happens in the game. Taking nothing away from Along | :31:03. | :31:05. | |
and Jelavic, they were outstanding, brilliant signings by Steve Bruce, | :31:06. | :31:11. | |
and by the owner that provides the money, another story. Defending | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
wise, for a couple of those goals, four Jelavic's header, there were | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
six Cardiff players in the box. That looks like a team that doesn't quite | :31:21. | :31:27. | |
know what is it is supposed to be doing. The Cardiff owners were | :31:28. | :31:30. | |
trying to point out that Malky Mackay's transfer dealings were at | :31:31. | :31:33. | |
the root of why they fell out, and then they said Solskjaer has spent | :31:34. | :31:37. | |
brilliantly in the transfer window, five of those were playing them, and | :31:38. | :31:41. | |
they don't look like brilliant signings to me. Kenwyne Jones, Fabi, | :31:42. | :31:50. | |
Zaha, I don't think you can drop them in and accept a big upheaval. | :31:51. | :31:57. | |
Can include Sunderland, we will bring in West Brom and Fulham who | :31:58. | :32:00. | |
played each other. West Brom and Pepe Mel, Felix Magath, Fulham's | :32:01. | :32:07. | |
third Manager of the Season, do you get a sense, the majority of these | :32:08. | :32:12. | |
new managers, you can even go to Muelensteen as well, they don't know | :32:13. | :32:15. | |
their players yet and therefore the crowds are looking unsettled, more | :32:16. | :32:24. | |
often than not? Sunderland might be the exception? Some of them don't | :32:25. | :32:27. | |
have experience of being in the trouble that they are in. You sell | :32:28. | :32:35. | |
Shane Long to a direct rival, he may not have been prolific from a | :32:36. | :32:38. | |
goal-scoring point of view, now he has a partnership with Jelavic. | :32:39. | :32:47. | |
Fulham, look at them, Hull signed those two for 12 million, both with | :32:48. | :32:51. | |
Premier League experience, regardless of Jelavic's form, you | :32:52. | :32:54. | |
have a top-class player that is going to work and create for others, | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
you have Shane Long thrown into the mix. West Brom, to let him go the | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
way that he did, he would not have seen too much Shane Long. I think it | :33:03. | :33:07. | |
a huge error. They have got Victor Anichebe, who will cause | :33:08. | :33:14. | |
problems... But he's not starting? That's the thing. They bring him on | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
at half-time, and they look better in the second half. Doesn't this go | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
to the heart, managers coming in, perhaps not knowing the legal their | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
players, you have to question that. Look at Tony Pulis, he knows the | :33:29. | :33:31. | |
league, he knows what the opposition are going to do, how they are going | :33:32. | :33:37. | |
to set up. The experience he has got, you know that Sam was going to | :33:38. | :33:41. | |
get them out of trouble. There were a lot of people questioning why they | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
were sticking with him. A lot of the fans had turned. For them to make | :33:48. | :33:51. | |
that brave decision, seeing David Sullivan interviewed in December, | :33:52. | :33:54. | |
when everyone was saying they should sack him, they were saying they are | :33:55. | :33:58. | |
going to give him till the end of the season, if they get it wrong, | :33:59. | :34:01. | |
they get it wrong. They backed the manager, the players were behind | :34:02. | :34:04. | |
him. How much does that help the players? Take Felix Magath, the | :34:05. | :34:11. | |
reporter said, have you made any changes? He replied, I don't know, I | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
didn't pick the last team, so I don't know who was playing. The | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
players must know if they are coming or going? The problem with Fulham is | :34:21. | :34:25. | |
the negativity that is going around, through the coaching methods, | :34:26. | :34:28. | |
straightaway. There is a negative field around the appointment. | :34:29. | :34:31. | |
Everybody is talking about how he likes to work the players, he runs | :34:32. | :34:34. | |
them into the ground, these sort of things. I think that. I know a lot | :34:35. | :34:48. | |
of Norwich fans probably disagree. A lot of Norwich fans are not in | :34:49. | :34:51. | |
favour of it at times. But he's done a great job and his continuing to do | :34:52. | :34:54. | |
that. He has done it at other clubs he has been out and had success. | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
That is why I think they will stick with him. You think they will? The | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
rumours going around... I think they should. Briefly going back to | :35:04. | :35:16. | |
bringing in somebody, Southampton is the exception. I think if they lose | :35:17. | :35:23. | |
today, I think he will go. Why? Because that is what I think. David | :35:24. | :35:27. | |
McNally will think, there will come a time when there are X amount of | :35:28. | :35:39. | |
games left. It comes down to the business that Hull did again. The | :35:40. | :35:43. | |
understanding is that David McNally says the brief of Chris Hughton is | :35:44. | :35:47. | |
to keep them away from the bottom three. If they were to lose today, | :35:48. | :35:50. | |
they still would not be in the bottom three? This is not the first | :35:51. | :35:58. | |
time that we have heard this. In December they came close to making | :35:59. | :36:01. | |
this decision, I think, they pulled back and went on a decent run and | :36:02. | :36:04. | |
now they find themselves in a difficult position. The last four | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
games are against Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and | :36:09. | :36:11. | |
Liverpool. That probably gives you seven or eight games to win four or | :36:12. | :36:15. | |
five matches. That's an incredible task for anyone. But who do you | :36:16. | :36:20. | |
bring in? Exactly. Who wants to take it. It was his relationship with | :36:21. | :36:26. | |
David McNally, that is the big thing you are reading. That has been going | :36:27. | :36:29. | |
back three or six months, with Neil Lennon coming in from Celtic. That | :36:30. | :36:35. | |
is a huge call, for Neil Lennon, let alone for Norwich. He's going to win | :36:36. | :36:39. | |
the title with Celtic, he will have Champions League football again. | :36:40. | :36:42. | |
They are saying, these are Norwich's last four games, you have | :36:43. | :36:46. | |
seven or eight to make sure that we are not playing Championship | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
football? Unless a couple of those teams are already sorted where they | :36:51. | :36:54. | |
are going to finish, that might be the case. But I think you are right | :36:55. | :36:57. | |
in that it would be a huge call for Neil Lennon. From my understanding, | :36:58. | :37:03. | |
maybe he will be ready to come down for a new challenge. And why | :37:04. | :37:06. | |
wouldn't he want a new challenge? Fantastic club, Celtic, fantastic | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
what they have done and are doing, but he has been there for a long | :37:11. | :37:13. | |
time as a player and manager, you might want a new challenge. But it | :37:14. | :37:19. | |
only lasts for 11 games... All of a sudden he could be in a Championship | :37:20. | :37:23. | |
club next season, and he's made a big error leaving a Champions League | :37:24. | :37:27. | |
club in Celtic. Let's touch on Wayne Rooney, Manchester United won at | :37:28. | :37:30. | |
Crystal Palace yesterday. Wayne Rooney scored one of the goals to | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
celebrate the new Deal. This is what he said too Match Of The Day | :37:34. | :37:36. | |
afterwards. To be honest, I knew what I was doing for a while now. It | :37:37. | :37:40. | |
was just a matter of getting it done. I have been settled, I have | :37:41. | :37:45. | |
been enjoying my football. Obviously, it's great for myself and | :37:46. | :37:54. | |
hopefully for the fans. I'm here to stay and I want to help this could | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
be successful. Hopefully, we can do that. Janet in Bridlington, what do | :38:00. | :38:03. | |
the panel think of Rooney think of him getting that amount of money? | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
Bismarck says, people need to get off his case over wages. If my boss | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
wanted to pay me 50p per second, I'm not going to refuse that. We need | :38:15. | :38:17. | |
him to stay to attract top players in the summer, if we fail to qualify | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
for a Champions League, which looks likely. That is the argument | :38:22. | :38:24. | |
Manchester United fans are saying. It would have cost them an awful lot | :38:25. | :38:28. | |
more to replace him, rather than to keep him? In a way, his contract was | :38:29. | :38:35. | |
so far advanced that you're thinking, it is almost like signing | :38:36. | :38:40. | |
another player. You think about how much it is going to cost to sign a | :38:41. | :38:44. | |
29-year-old world-class player, ?30 million, plus wages. It's only a | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
small percentage of the turnover for your marquee talent. I don't worry | :38:50. | :38:52. | |
for the figures. But I think might be an issue, they mentioned acting | :38:53. | :38:59. | |
chilly attracting players -- attracting players to the club, and | :39:00. | :39:02. | |
they are going to look at Wayne Rooney's wages. Why would Toni Kroos | :39:03. | :39:09. | |
sign former test United? You been at possibly the best club side in the | :39:10. | :39:12. | |
world, he'll get good money. He might sign if they say, you can have | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
the same as Wayne Rooney. But that creates a problem, that is the bar | :39:17. | :39:20. | |
being set for world-class talent. So when they are being linked with a | :39:21. | :39:29. | |
player somewhere in Europe, as good as he is, he's not likely to come in | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
and say I want ?300,000 per week. But he is more likely now he's | :39:35. | :39:38. | |
staying? The question was if Manchester United could have | :39:39. | :39:41. | |
afforded not to do this deal. In the summer, Wayne Rooney fell out with | :39:42. | :39:49. | |
Alex Ferguson, he went into the manager 's office and said, what do | :39:50. | :39:53. | |
you think, do we go our separate ways? He wasn't in the team, there | :39:54. | :39:57. | |
was interest from Chelsea. All of a sudden he's back in the team, | :39:58. | :40:00. | |
playing well, the power comes back to him. United are suddenly | :40:01. | :40:03. | |
thinking, we could lose this guy in the summer for far less than he is | :40:04. | :40:07. | |
worth. They have to do the deal and then they have to pay the wages he | :40:08. | :40:10. | |
wants. Ultimately, Wayne Rooney's team have played a blinder. They | :40:11. | :40:18. | |
have got their client... The figures are what they are because the club | :40:19. | :40:21. | |
can afford it. It's an astronomical amount of money, but you have to say | :40:22. | :40:24. | |
he is worth it because of what it would take to replace them. Thank | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
you very much for all of your text messages and tweets. Might read some | :40:29. | :40:33. | |
more out in a moment. The other 1:30 kick-off today is Newcastle against | :40:34. | :40:36. | |
Aston Villa. Steve Bower is doing this game for Match Of The Day too. | :40:37. | :40:39. | |
I spoke it to him earlier that both of these clubs always seem one match | :40:40. | :40:46. | |
away from a crisis? Cull as you well know, here on Tyneside it doesn't | :40:47. | :40:52. | |
take much to create a crisis with the natives, but they are not happy | :40:53. | :40:56. | |
as far as Newcastle is concerned. Four home defeat in a row and they | :40:57. | :40:59. | |
haven't scored a goal in any of them. If they were to lose today, | :41:00. | :41:03. | |
that anxiety would increase. They have not lost five league games in a | :41:04. | :41:08. | |
row at home since 1953. Paul Lambert has stoked the fire by saying he | :41:09. | :41:10. | |
thinks the edginess within the crowd can help Aston Villa today to three | :41:11. | :41:19. | |
points, as they look to get some consistency. Still in natural | :41:20. | :41:24. | |
addition fight. He mentions that the crowd might | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
help Aston Villa, and Villa are better away from Villa Park? As | :41:29. | :41:32. | |
Newcastle are, as well. That has hampered their form here. Yes, Aston | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
Villa are dreadful at Villa Park. We have seen them a few times this | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
season. Away from home, they play with a little less fear, that more | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
freedom. That is their hope today. As far as Newcastle are concerned, | :41:46. | :41:48. | |
you look at their team sheet, since Cabaye's much publicised departure, | :41:49. | :41:54. | |
that has hit them as well. They have big names back, Coloccini, their | :41:55. | :42:00. | |
captain back in defence. Loic Remy will return after suspension. Their | :42:01. | :42:03. | |
top scorer, where would they be without him? Already, they have a | :42:04. | :42:06. | |
stronger line-up, but undoubtedly they need to win. Let me confirm, | :42:07. | :42:13. | |
Coloccini, checked Coyote and Loic Remy all back for Newcastle, as is | :42:14. | :42:24. | |
appalled at. -- Dummet. Mignolet, Johnson, Jordan Henderson all | :42:25. | :42:27. | |
recalled for Liverpool. It's interesting, we talk about how great | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
the Newcastle fans are, but they are under real pressure at home? | :42:33. | :42:35. | |
Newcastle were incredibly edgy against Tottenham the other week. I | :42:36. | :42:41. | |
think Paul Lambert has just started to get the flames stoked a little | :42:42. | :42:46. | |
bit more, by saying what he said. Our Jew has said he is not happy | :42:47. | :42:49. | |
about his comments. -- Alan Pardew. It's more edgy for both sides. Just | :42:50. | :43:05. | |
by having Coloccini, checked Tiote back, it improves them. They need | :43:06. | :43:12. | |
three points? Leads to keep his stock higher, because he needs to | :43:13. | :43:16. | |
get away from there. One thing about Mike Ashley is that he's always | :43:17. | :43:19. | |
probably wanted mid-table security for Newcastle, no more. They went | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
into Europe, they struggled because of their squad size. I don't think | :43:24. | :43:26. | |
they wanted to replace Yohan Cabaye in January. They go too high up the | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
table, they give themselves problems, so mid-table is good for | :43:31. | :43:38. | |
Ashley. A text from a viewer in knowledge the Norwich, -- Norwich, | :43:39. | :43:46. | |
if we get four five wins from the easier games, it won't matter if we | :43:47. | :43:49. | |
lose the last ones. Match Of The Day 2 is that 10:25 on | :43:50. | :43:59. | |
BBC Two. See you next. -- see you next week. Goodbye. | :44:00. | :44:00. |