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Welcome to Match of the Day 2 Extra on BBC Two, Radio 5 Live

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With me this afternoon, Premier League winner

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Mark Schwarzer, West Ham midfielder Michail Antonio and Jason Burt,

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who is The Telegraph's chief football correspondent.

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Get in touch using the hash tag #bbcfootball on social media

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Here are some other subjects we will discuss over the next 45 minutes.

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Chelsea 's title defence started with a shock as they were beaten at

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home by Burnley and Sam Vokes will hopefully join as a little later on.

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Huddersfield have a dream start to life in the Premier League with a

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3-0 win at Crystal Palace. Newcastle's return to the top

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flight begins at home. We will be at St

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James' Park shortly. And we will also look ahead

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to today's four o'clock kick-off with Manchester United playing

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Michail's West Ham. Antonio Conte appears

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on nearly all the back pages. The Sun - "Blue Lost Plot"

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with Antonio Conte accusing his I'm laughing at the ridiculous

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nature that Antonio Conte is the bookmakers favourite to be the first

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managerial casualty of the season. Antonio Conte target signings

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after Chelsea's disastrous start. Danny Drinkwater and Virgil van Dijk

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are two of the players named. Michail, you're not at Old Trafford

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because you are not quite fit, but your not far from 100%. Yes, I'm not

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far. I trained with the first team this week. I managed to play on

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Friday. So I should be available for selection mixed week if I am

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selected. You just said to us you asked to play for the under 23s

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because there is a difference between feeling fit and finding out

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whether you are match fit, so explain that a little bit. Yeah,

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definitely, like, you can run all you like in pre-season but the

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preseason games is where you really learn the fitness of changing

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direction, sprinting, because the way I play, I run the ball for 60

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yards and can rest for three minutes and get the ball back and go running

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again, so it's not practical. I can't planet. It's just reaction

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type of thing. I possibly could have tried to be in this weekend but

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being able to play an actual game, and no mentally myself to be

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selected for next week, if I am selected, that I could play and

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start. -- plan it. This amuses me slightly a Simon Hughes not an

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athlete, you may find that hard to believe, having a little giggle to

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yourself, you are at Saint April. Is that the summer getting back to

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fitness to such an extent you took your physio on your stag do with

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you? Did that work? Yes, I am back on time.

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LAUGHTER During the summer, obviously, I did

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my hamstring. I had to get myself prepared for the summer. I just had

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to keep working. During this time, obviously going to get married. I've

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had to go to Vegas. Fraser is a very lucky man to come to Vegas. All paid

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for. He did sessions with you out there? Literally, every morning...

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What type of sessions? Not a drinking sessions. I've had to make

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some sacrifices. He managed to get me to do that. He got a nice holiday

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to Vegas. Yeah, so, he was out there. He got me back on time, maybe

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earlier. Widget taken a physio on your stag do? Only if he had good

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banter. He was part of the boys. I liked him. We had a little squad and

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he was leading the squad. He should have stayed. Let's move on to talk

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about the actual football from the opening Premier League weekend. We

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will come on to Old Trafford, West Ham, later on. I did laugh at the

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Mail on Sunday's back page headline and the bookies having Antonio Conte

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to be favourite to be the first manager to lose his job. Can you

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understand why he is the favourite? Yes, I can. It does seem crazy,

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incredible, one defeat and suddenly he's the favourite to lose his job,

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but this is a hangover from the last season, he was not happy. He toured

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with inter-Milan, substantial, and fathers on the table and he could've

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gone. He signed a new contract on better terms but not an extended

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deal. Without the ongoing problems with transfers. And also Diego

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Costa. I think it has hurt him. Living out of the squad, in January,

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keeping him until they won the league. I think that text message he

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sent has damaged his standing at the club because I have a player there

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who is a devalued asset, he wrote have the money they thought they

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would get for him. He hasn't got the players he wanted in the transfer

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window, but on the bench yesterday, the board players. They have players

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who have not been fit. Two or three players coming in. May simply does

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not lie with him. I've had my fallouts with Chelsea over the

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years. A number of managerial changes. I think this is more about

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him and his behaviour rather than the club. I agree with Jason. The

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rumblings throughout the summer is now coming to affect, and it's

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affecting Antonio Conte, the way he's responding and reacting,

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politically after the game when he is saying the players lost the plot.

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Normally a manager who has the full support of his team, would not come

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out and defend his players. In this instance, he hasn't. It seems like

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it's a very unhappy camper the moment. I thought was very

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confusing. He came on and change the game, Morata. Him on the bench was

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quite strange. Obviously, Lukaku was his first choice. But Morata was not

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foisted upon him. Be for the Lukaku tour, he was talking about Morata

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into Chelsea. They've done a good deal. He didn't play him in

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pre-season either. I think he is his man. Our understanding was that this

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was a player who went to Juventus. Obviously he's not a player who's

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been foisted upon him. To be fair, Chelsea are not foisting players

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upon him. It's not with possible to get the players you want. Everybody

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talks about Bennuci, not wanting to leave Italy. They talk about him not

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wanting Matic to go but he didn't want to go to Manchester United.

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That the difference. When you talk the text message damaging him,

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telling a player is not wanted, are you saying it's damaged him within

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Chelsea? Within the hierarchy. Yes, within the club. I think he handled

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it very well initially. They won the game at Leicester, went on to win

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the league, it he got Diego Costa back on track and it worked.

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Subsequent to that, it's been handled badly and I think him

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involving himself in sending this message was unnecessary. There's

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talk about legal action against Chelsea. It's become a very messy

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situation. The player sitting on a beach in Brazil. It's just going on

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and on and on. He was working in a circus. If you weren't wanted by a

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club, what is the right way to go about it? If you are not wanted by

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the manager... OK, but... It's difficult. The club are backing him

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but there's a difference. The club would like him to stay. It's

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difficult because the manager obviously excellent team so if

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you're not going to get games come you obviously don't want to leave,.

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So if the management doesn't want you, you won't play games and things

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like that but it's difficult. He was top of the squad last year. It

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surprisingly wants to give it him. Obviously, his attitude might be the

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cause of it, but top scorer. But he wants to go and that's fine but they

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got to get the deal done so therefore, the head coach involving

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himself more in these messages doesn't help because he views that

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ammunition against him. One final question on Chelsea and then we will

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talk to Sam Vokes. Chelsea is all over the back pages of the moment.

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They didn't have a great start last season either and didn't get

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themselves going until September. It really isn't that big a deal after

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one game. It shouldn't be but the circumstances leading up to the

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game, the off-season, last season, the whole Diego Costa situation, it

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hasn't been dealt with that well but Italy by Antonio Conte. He wants to

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leave and he wants to go to Atletico Madrid but unfortunately for him,

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there's no way he can go there because of a transfer embargo. Under

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normal circumstances, they would just say it was a bad day but

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circumstances, red cards, but, in this case, because of what has gone

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on, behind-the-scenes, people will speculate. Not his fault, the way

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the club is run, not giving the players he wants. Chelsea have to

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take that positive despite having been 3-0 down, they shared the

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determination to come back, give them credit. You've got to get

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barely credit for their performance yesterday for that we have not done

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that yet. We will do it for the next five minutes for talking to Sam

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Vokes. Sam Vokes, who scored

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two of Burnley's goals, Yes. You don't have an impatient

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group behind you, do you? Not quite. It's very nice idea. Thank you to

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talking to us. Chelsea were down to nine men, but you played very well,

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despite that. Arguably, had great control of the game until Morata

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came on. Yes, 11 men. We gave a good account of ourselves throughout the

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game. We managed the game well. Would you say that, I don't know if

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we lost connection there but hopefully you are still there, is

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the club settled on and off the pitch, and even if your big players

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go, whether it be Andre Gray, not a great deal of noise comes out of

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Burnley and the wheels just keep on turning? Yes, I think you are right

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there. The gaffer has got the lads working and everyone knows their

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jobs within the camp. So it's like players moving on. Players come into

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the team straightaway know their job. Know how we work. It's been

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like that for a few years now. I think with the performance yesterday

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you can see that. Did you go to the game with a lot of confidence,

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knowing the speculation on Antonio Conte on the summer, the lack of

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movement with transfer windows for Chelsea, did you go there thinking

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you were going to get out the game? Yes, I think so. The gaffer

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mentioned before the game yesterday, a lot of noise coming out of

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Chelsea. For us to not get distracted by that. The first game

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of the season, what we've been building up to in pre-season for

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five or six weeks and we're looking forward to it. We were just

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concentrating going into that game. To give a good account of ourselves.

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I spoke to your manager yesterday after the game and that strange

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thing that happens when you are in a team and you are playing nine men

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and yet you feel the crowd and the impetus with the opposition and, on

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one hand, you are telling yourself it is 11 against nine but, at the

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same time, you feel like you are being overwhelmed. It must be a very

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odd feeling? Yes, it is a strange feeling, especially away from home.

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The crowd were behind them, obviously. It is sometimes harder to

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break down. And I think the way we went about it, especially when they

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went down to ten men, they moved the ball very well. I think that is

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where the goals came from, really. We kept moving side to side. Your

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eyes must have lit up when the cross came in for your second goal? Yes, a

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striker's dream. A short free kick. Stephen put a great ball in. I'm a

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striker who loves to go and attack. Wasn't a fluke? -- was it a fluke?

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No, I remember when he came from Simona Baumrtova. He did it. How was

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the golf going? Is it going all right? Not too bad. My partner is

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actually a Chelsea fan. I'm surprised he turned up for the game

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to be honest. Thank you very much for talking to us and we will see

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you soon. Thank you. Sam Vokes on Match of the Day 2 Extra.

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There was a point, Jason, yesterday, when a lot of people said you look

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at Burnley's bench and it was stronger than Chelsea's bench. I

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want to focus on that a little bit because it is a very well built

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balanced squad by Sean Dyche regardless of whether he this won

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yesterday? He's done some good business this summer. People talking

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about Gray. You forget the January window and last summer, he's been

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building over time, bringing in players. I think he's anticipated

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some of these things happening. The money for Gray's very good. Michael

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Keane, he knew for a long time he was going to leave. He has been

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planning for this. You look and think they don't look quite as

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strong as they did. I wouldn't discount them. The key yesterday was

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they won away from home which they weren't doing. Suddenly, they got a

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good away win. Do you think Sean Dyche is one of the most underrated

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managers in the league? Crystal Palace, Sam Allardyce goes and Daesh

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would be the obvious replacement for that move. I don't think he was ever

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in the frame. He seems to be, maybe it's perception, that gruff voice,

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the goatee or the shaved head, there's a perception can he really

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do any better than he's doing. Well, actually, he's done brilliantly. You

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could argue that with the players he brings in. He brings in good solid,

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dependable, I mean this as a compliment, professionals. Jack Cork

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was excellent yesterday. Really experienced Premier League

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midfielder who he has brought in for very little fuss. Robbie Brady in

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the January transfer window. They probably need another goal scorer to

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help Vokes out? Definitely. They need to bring somebody in to replace

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Andre Gray. He has his backroom staff looking around. They have to

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bring someone in. What a win. Great start to the season. Built up a lot

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of confidence for the next game. Anything can happen from here. Paul

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says, remember, there were two teams playing, the Clarets ever bit as

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good tactically as Chelsea weren't. Hopefully that's balanced it up for

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you, Paul. Let's go to St James's Park. On 5 live at 1.30, we'll bring

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you commentary for Newcastle against Spurs. Sell-out here at St James'

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Park. Beautiful sunshine. Newcastle United against Tottenham with Chris

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Waddle who know as lot about these two teams. You're summarising on 5

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live sport this afternoon. We'll talk about the teams in a minute.

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The atmosphere here will be rocking? Sold out. Lot of expectations for

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both teams. For Newcastle, if they're realistic, it is about

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survival, making sure they stay in the division. For Tottenham, second

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or third. They will he they will be looking for this year to win it. It

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is not at White Hart lane but it's all about today. A lot of people

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saying on form Tottenham should win this game. Experience at this level.

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Always in the top four at the minute. But, as we saw in the

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results yesterday, some things can happen. Newcastle will be looking to

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get off to a good start. They need to stay in this division. The mood

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hasn't been good with the lack of summer spending at Newcastle. That

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should be different once they get on the pitch? The worst thing is they

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go down in the first 10 or 15 mins. That would be ideal for Tottenham.

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This crowd will get behind them Rafa has a good record against Tottenham.

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If you look at #3w09 sides, Tottenham are a stronger side. It is

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90 minutes and anything can happen. . Tottenham depleted with options.

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Their summer's not been great. Not much noise around White Hart lane?

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Over the weekend a couple of rumours about a couple of players. One

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fromage axe. Tottenham will do business in the next couple of

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weeks. When you look at the squad Tottenham has, it is a very tasty

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squad. If he can keep everybody fit, they'll be knocking on the door

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again. Rafa's still here. That's great for Newcastle. The fans adore

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him. They'll have to support it and keep behind the side. He's probably

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hoping to survive and get on his hands and knees and plead for some

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money. May 2016? They Gotrel gated that day. Their heads were down

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after Leicester won the league. I don't think we'll get that today.

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Chris Waddle knows all about Newcastle and Tottenham. 5 live

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sports commentator from 1.30 I know it's only the opening game of the

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season, we've spoken about Chelsea and don't want to go overboard too

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soon. Is this a big game for both of them given how the summer's gone? I

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think so. We all know what's gone on with Tottenham. Roast coming out

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talking about lack of money, investment in the team. He's

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basically said what everyone's thinking. With Newcastle, Benitez

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has been vocal about the lack of moment in the transfer window. At

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the end of last season he said they wanted to compete in the top half of

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the table. He hasn't been given those funds. Now back to St James'

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Park for the team news. Plenty of new faces. What is interesting,

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they've replaced Kyle Walker with Kyle Walker Pieters. Young player

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making his Tottenham debut. Convenient for any players who've

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kept the jeersaway from last season. Dwight Gayle, 23 goals in the

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championship last season, he starts. Big injury doubt. Didn't play in the

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last warm-up game, friendly pre-season. He is fit to start this

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game. Manquillo who was at Sunderland on loan last season makes

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his debut. Lejeune also starts in the back four. For Tottenham, the

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team you'd expect can Keane, Dembele. With Trippier injured, it's

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Kyle Walker Pieters who starts for Tottenham. Let's deal with Spurs

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first. Back to Newcastle in a little while. On 5 live yesterday, we had a

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fan phone in. He wanted to be billed as an optimistic Spurs fan. He felt

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they were being written off when they haven't done a great deal wrong

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during the summer bar not signing anybody. As I said yesterday, if it

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isn't broke, why are you looking to fix it? Pa it is bringing fresh

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faces. People to challenge other people that are in the positions

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already. So people in the positions are not comfortable. They are

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expected to play because of who they are. So, when these other players

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come in, they're challenging for she is spots because they've been bout

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and the owner's spent the money. They will be playing well, training

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hard and trying to get in the positions those bows are in. Because

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it is the exact same team, you can pick the front four, you can pick

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nine of Tottenham's players before... Do you feel, I know you

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don't want to play right back, do you feel Zabaleta comes into West

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Ham, great, a challenge and at training as well or around out

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Veitch? I like the around out Veitch shout more! He comes in and you're

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thinking, great, a challenge, something different in training.

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Seriously. He's come in and he's a quality player. Established in the

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Premier League. I know I've got to be, when I'm playing, I've got to be

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on top form. If I don't, then, he's another quality player there who can

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take my place. Or there's other players like figurualy who are

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always challenging for my spot. If I don't play well, I have to stay on

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my toes and play well and I stay in my position. With Spurs, you're

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wondering, are people expecting them to just embellish the squad a bit,

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make it a bit bigger? It's more like, they're so close. Every year

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they're so close. Doingle with, doing well, at the end, they're

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always starting to fall off. It is about having more in the squad so

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when injuries happen or when people are starting to fall off their

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performances, they've got another person to freshen it up, make it

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better. I think they will sign three before the end of the window. I

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think, actually, Pochettino's not had one word of complaint. That

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indicates people are more confident than people are about Tottenham. I

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may live to regret this, I think they'll have a good season. Will be

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fine. Bring in two or three players. They've kept hold of everyone they

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want to. Continue bringing in... They were willing to sell Kyle

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Walker. I think they're not going to get sucked into playing the, ma.

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Some clubs have, some haven't. They're holding their nerve. I

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understand the discontent. Maybe I'm being a bit optimistic. Look at that

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first 11, still incredibly strong. I take Michail's point, you need to

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get 13, 14, 15 stronger to put the pressure on. That's very hard. I

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think they'll bring two or three players challenging for first team

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places. The first 11 are the best in the league. No doubting that. It is

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what they need to add to the squad. More depth. They need also another

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player or two that is of a similar if not better quality than some of

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the players in their team. Again, like we were talking about. It

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raises the bar. It challenges people. You want people to be

:25:50.:25:52.

outside their comfor the zone. Go to another level. Continually improve.

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At the moment, the improvement is through the manager. And players

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gaining experience. It only takes you so far. You need that extra camp

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tugs. Could they have got... Forget he might have wanted to go to

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Chelsea or this that and the other, hypothetically, could they have gone

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for Morata? They did but he didn't want to go there? Why? Because he

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couldn't get in ahead of Cain? That's what Pochettino says. If

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you're a centre half there, you think you won't get in? You hope

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you'd back yourselves over the season. Dyer wants to play midfield.

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Centre back is different. Harry Cain is an interesting problem going

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there as a striker. He'll play. Maybe they'll change the system up.

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As a professional, you have to back yourself. You can't stunt yourself

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feeling you're not going to play. Have you to take that step doored

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and believe in your ability. Last season, Harry Kane was out injured.

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They really did miss him. They covered the gaps and cracks. Dele

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Alli stepped in and scored goals. You can't continuously do that. If

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they are competitive on all fronts they need more quality quality. If

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they bring in Sanchez or Ross Barkley, that's two players. One

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more on top of that and losing Kyle Walker. Suddenly, it looks

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different. As far as Newcastle or concerned, can you understand Rafa

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been the he's frustrations over the summer? Yes, because of where he's

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been in the past. The clubs he's worked with. The funds he's always

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had available. I thought first and foremost, it was a real strange

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decision for him to go to Newcastle. Even though Newcastle's a massive

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club, but it's been a club that's never really fulfilled his

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potential. When he went there, I think it was an eyebrow lifter. I

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think he stayed in the championship on the prove eyes owe, you get us

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back up, we will back you and get a very competitive side in the Premier

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League but that just hasn't happened. I think it's fantastic he

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went there. He stayed there. Are you surprised he's still there? No, not

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really. I think Rafa's being Rafa. That that he is a not necessarily a

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criticism. I think he's pushing. He doesn't want to come back in the

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Premier League through the relegation zone. He wants to go back

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and compete. What was interesting last week, Mike Ashley said Rafa has

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the final say, I'm not a multi-bibillionaire with money

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veilage. He put the pressure back on the manager. There were dealings

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they didn't close. Caballero going to Chelsea instead of Newcastle.

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Deals could have been done that Rafa's frustrated about. I think he

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will stay. This constant rumbling will continue. There's an argue

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automatic, Mikhail, I don't want you getting loads of stick from

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Newcastle fans, as big as Newcastle are, they are huge as I have, big

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club, one club city, they are a promoter club. If they're going

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head-to-head for Ake or whoever, Bournemouth and Swansea are more

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established Premier League clubs than Newcastle at the moment? I

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would say myself, between Swansea, Bournemouth and Newcastle,

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Newcastle's very likely the biggest club out of the three of them. For

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me, personally, if those three clubs you were coming in for me, I would

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more likely sway to Newcastle more than Bournemouth or Swansea.

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Newcastle is more of a bigger club. If they had the ambition, I believe

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if they had more of the drive and more of a talk with the players, I

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think other players will be in the same opinion as me. There has to be

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something else, the reason why other teams got them over Newcastle.

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You'll get lots of love from Newcastle and I'll get the stick.

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Thank you. Let's stay on transfers and players wanting to leave clubs.

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Philippe Coutinho just one. Alan Shearer said on Match of the Day

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last night that Liverpool have to sell him. What was amazing yesterday

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was the number of players linked with moves away whether van Dyke,

:30:42.:30:46.

Sigurdsson, Coutinho. An she. Danny Drinkwater. Amazing how many

:30:47.:30:51.

niggles, strains, viruses are picked up.

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It's not a coincidence! LAUGHTER

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No, you can read into it however you choose to read into it. I would like

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to think everybody has got legitimate injuries. You know the

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ins and outs of football and people do what they have to do. Coutinho is

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a phenomenal player. Clearly he wants to leave. He's had a transfer

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request, they rejected it, Jurgen Klopp has been diplomatic in the

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sense that he said the owners of that no, we have wanted to keep him

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so he is posted onto their side and said, I'm the manager, I have 23

:31:39.:31:42.

other players to look after. He is one of them as well but I need to do

:31:43.:31:46.

with everyone. The club have made that decision. The club want to keep

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him because he's a world-class player but when a player like

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Coutinho is being chased by Barcelona, it's difficult for him to

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stay. He can't turn down Barcelona. He's made it very clear he hasn't.

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As a player, you can't turn down Barcelona. If they come knocking,

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you go. I feel Liverpool is doing the right thing for the club.

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Because he is basically their best player, he makes things happen from

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nothing. And, standing their ground, then again, would you want a

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player... Last season, you had a player who wants to leave and the

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clubs that no, so you know what it's like in that environment when a

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player is turned and he doesn't want to stay. I'm not saying Coutinho

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will do the same thing, but that the issue. Did it affect your dressing

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room? I believe, as a player, I think the club should let him go

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because his head has been turned. And the effect it has on the group,

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on the player himself. He's never going to be the exact same player

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because his body and mind is no longer at Liverpool. You've got to

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let him go because is not going to be the same player that he was. I

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think he thinks he has professionally behaved well until

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this point and this is an offer so large and big Liverpool can't turn

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it down. I think that's why he put in a transfer request. I think, on

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the other side of that, Liverpool's owners have made a statement, their

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credibility is now on the line with the supporters. The problem is, if

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you go so strong and say you're not selling him, and then you do sell

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him, the fans won't like it. It's possibly too late in the window for

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Liverpool. It's not going to happen in this window. I suspect they will

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say to Coutinho, give us one more year like we did with Suarez. I'm

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not sure Barcelona will come back for him next year. It could be now

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or never for him so at a very difficult situation. 100 million,

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its huge. How can you turn that down? The players thinking, I came

:34:06.:34:11.

here for ?10 million. I've been good to the club, this is my moment, but

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the club have got to look after themselves as well. When the owners

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when so strong, it's difficult to let him go. He's been a very good

:34:19.:34:24.

servant to the club. He has, is done well. The situation he's in now,

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Barcelona have come knocking, a quality team, they always do well in

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La Liga, the Champions League, it's an opportunity for him to go out and

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do things. In contrast to Suarez, this might be Coutinho's only chance

:34:43.:34:48.

to go to Barcelona. Definitely, because Barcelona need to replace

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Neymar. They have to have a back-up. They are under such pressure to buy.

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They've got to get Coutinho. They've got to get out there and spend some

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money. This is Coutinho's chance. I don't see Barcelona coming in next

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summer. I totally agree with you. Liverpool run the risk, if they

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don't allow him to go, they don't get as much as they possibly can for

:35:19.:35:21.

him, they got a disgruntled player and someone, I'm not sure what is

:35:22.:35:26.

like as a person, but he may not put in the work. He is a shy guy, but he

:35:27.:35:33.

won't be the same player. It's not about putting any effort. It's

:35:34.:35:37.

mentally, he's not going to be the same player. One thing in football,

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you can try your hardest, but if you are mentally not right, you're not

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going to the same player. When I was at Fulham, there was talk about

:35:51.:35:55.

Arsenal coming in for me and I was adamant I wanted to go and the club

:35:56.:35:59.

refused to let me go and it took me three months at least to get over it

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and even then I never really got over it. Did you feel resentment?

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Yes. Towards anyone and everyone. It was more about, the manager as well,

:36:10.:36:18.

and above. Definitely. They were the people who would not let me go. I

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was 37 years old so it is a different situation. I was 37 and it

:36:23.:36:28.

was the end of my career. It is similar with Coutinho in the fact it

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could be his only opportunity. I don't think it's his one and only

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opportunity to go to a big club but Barcelona may be. For Brazilians,

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Real Madrid and Barcelona is everything for them. Can you

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understand fans in general, with a lot of players, when they are

:36:49.:36:52.

disgruntled and wanting to go, fans say, why did you sign a five-year

:36:53.:36:58.

contract at them? LAUGHTER

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Or, as a player... As a player, these other contracts basically...

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It's one of those things where... You sign a contract, you sign five

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years because obviously there are security unit, for the club, for the

:37:16.:37:22.

player. It goes either way. It's not about a five-year contract. It could

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be a five-year contract and they don't want you any more and you

:37:29.:37:31.

still need to move because you're not going to play. Even though you

:37:32.:37:36.

have signed a five-year contract, the team doesn't want you, the team

:37:37.:37:42.

won't play you, you have to move. You've signed a five-year contract

:37:43.:37:45.

but need to move because bigger things are calling you. The club are

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in a stronger position now because he signed a long-term contract. I

:37:51.:37:53.

know people get upset about it, particularly fans, because they are

:37:54.:37:57.

very emotional about it that you commit to a long period of time at

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the club that won a club like Barcelona comes in someone, but

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there's a select few clubs who could come in for Coutinho and turn his

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head and Barcelona is one of them and the club will be well rewarded

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if he were to be sold. It's only certain clubs. If Man United came

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in, Chelsea, Man City, I don't think he would handle a transfer request

:38:23.:38:26.

but the fact it's Barcelona, even Real Madrid, those two clubs, they

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will turn anyone. The only two clubs who would do it. Let's move on to

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the 4pm. We will talk about Huddersfield before the end of the

:38:37.:38:45.

show unless these three go on. Anyhow, Man Utd v West Ham, what is

:38:46.:38:51.

the feeling in the squad? Very positive. Some great signings this

:38:52.:38:57.

year, Joe Hart, Arnautovic, so going forward, we look like a threat. We

:38:58.:39:08.

have solidified outback four. We have great experience, Arnautovic,

:39:09.:39:11.

playing the last two years. Pablo Zabaleta has been there. Premier

:39:12.:39:17.

League experience. That's all we needed and we got the people. To be

:39:18.:39:22.

honest, I think we did all right last year. I'm now on the bench so I

:39:23.:39:28.

can be called upon. We've got more of the squad as well. I trained with

:39:29.:39:34.

them this week. I really feel positive. The boys are looking

:39:35.:39:39.

sharp. This may seem an odd question given your home form last season,

:39:40.:39:43.

but it'd advantage having to play so many away at the start of the season

:39:44.:39:49.

because the stadium isn't ready because of the athletics? It's a

:39:50.:39:55.

disadvantage because Old Trafford is a massive arena, but you are getting

:39:56.:40:02.

them out of the way. To me, and to the boys, these games, we will go

:40:03.:40:08.

out there and give everything, and it doesn't matter if we are at home

:40:09.:40:12.

or way. We will still try to win the game. You could say it's better for

:40:13.:40:17.

you. Last season that was form at home. You can go away, get some good

:40:18.:40:22.

results and your belt, go home and have more confidence. You have

:40:23.:40:29.

Arnautovic, Pablo Zabaleta, Joe Hart, they will help you feel

:40:30.:40:35.

better. It'll be less of thing this season. Last season, when West Ham

:40:36.:40:40.

beat Tottenham, you have got a few good memories now. I was with Slaven

:40:41.:40:45.

Bilic on Thursday and he said, he will think he scored from here, and

:40:46.:40:48.

there's better memories coming through. It a difficult transition.

:40:49.:40:55.

What's fascinating that West Ham, he's got all his top targets. It's

:40:56.:40:59.

unusual to get your five top targets. More to come, hopefully.

:41:00.:41:09.

When Michail is back fit, he will have a team he wants. Conversely, it

:41:10.:41:14.

puts the pressure back on him. They need to do better, he knows that.

:41:15.:41:19.

West Ham have the best transfer window out of all the teams. When

:41:20.:41:23.

you look at the quality players they brought in, with Premier League

:41:24.:41:26.

experience, it's great. Manchester United. Jose Mourinho, you know him

:41:27.:41:32.

well. Anybody seems to be saying this now is more of the Jose

:41:33.:41:36.

Mourinho squad, the power physical side of it, and the height. West Ham

:41:37.:41:46.

practising headers this week. What's most important is to share Jose

:41:47.:41:50.

Mourinho himself. The message to bring into the media, the knows this

:41:51.:41:56.

is his team. He's happy with the recruitment. He feels very confident

:41:57.:41:59.

going forward and he knows he's got to contest for the title this

:42:00.:42:04.

season. I think Manchester United are a big, big possibility of

:42:05.:42:09.

winning the title. I saw Man City yesterday. They dominated the game

:42:10.:42:15.

for 99% of the game. The final pass was missing. They got quality all

:42:16.:42:19.

over the pitch however there are big questions defensively and also the

:42:20.:42:22.

new signings, the lack of Premier League experience. United is title

:42:23.:42:28.

to lose. Liverpool not strengthening right areas. No signing at Spurs. We

:42:29.:42:37.

ought to talk about Huddersfield. Winning at Crystal Palace yesterday.

:42:38.:42:42.

A deserved win, as well? Absolutely. The victory at Chelsea was a big

:42:43.:42:46.

result of the day but this is a huge result. To win away from home in the

:42:47.:42:49.

first game in the Premier League, no matter where you go, a massive boost

:42:50.:42:53.

their confidence and a deserved win. I think it traumatised Crystal

:42:54.:42:58.

Palace in a sense that they are off to a flyer. A bit of momentum. We

:42:59.:43:04.

all think they will go down. But the bottom of the Premier League is much

:43:05.:43:09.

of a muchness at times. If you can get momentum going, you can get

:43:10.:43:14.

yourself into quite a good position and then we don't know what will

:43:15.:43:17.

happen after that, whether they've got strong enough resources but I

:43:18.:43:23.

think they will be competitive. People always say at the beginning

:43:24.:43:27.

of the season, they are going down. Burnley, Watford. All these teams,

:43:28.:43:35.

you can't say they will go down for that football is unpredictable. They

:43:36.:43:38.

came up playing good football. Like Bournemouth. As long as you can have

:43:39.:43:44.

good connection, played decent football and have a decent striker,

:43:45.:43:50.

you could do well. Clinical finishing yesterday. Thank you are

:43:51.:43:53.

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