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Hello, welcome to Match Of The Day 2 Extra on BBC Two, Radio 5 Live | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
With me this afternoon, in the BBC Sport Centre | :00:30. | :00:35. | |
Bury and former Hull defender Alex Bruce, England and | :00:36. | :00:37. | |
and Andy Dunn, who's The Mirror's Chief Sports Writer. | :00:38. | :00:43. | |
Get in touch using the hashtag #bbcfootball on social media | :00:44. | :00:45. | |
Manchester United send a message to their rivals with a second | :00:46. | :00:58. | |
Another season, another defeat at Stoke for Arsene Wenger's Arsenal, | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
We'll be live in north-west London ahead of Tottenham's first | :01:03. | :01:10. | |
Premier League game at Wembley against the champions at four. | :01:11. | :01:13. | |
And another historic day for Huddersfield, who host Newcastle | :01:14. | :01:15. | |
As far as the papers are concerned, the # Have the story that Manchester | :01:16. | :01:24. | |
City will make Alexis Sanchez the highest-paid player in the Premier | :01:25. | :01:28. | |
League on 400 grand a week. The Express have picked up Philippe | :01:29. | :01:33. | |
Coutinho's prize to ?130 million. The Sunday Times are looking ahead | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
to the England squad being maimed and they said Chalobah and Rooney | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
might be called up by Gareth Southgate. How overboard do you want | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
to go on Manchester United's performance, Alex Bruce? How | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
overboard do you want me to go? They were special yesterday. They have | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
had a great start. They epitomise everything Manchester United are | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
about at the minute. They are a physical team with pace and power, | :02:01. | :02:05. | |
strength and depth. And they blew Swansea away on their own patch. Do | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
you have to take into account that it was Swansea and last week it was | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
West Ham. Swansea and West Ham fans might have a go, but you have to put | :02:16. | :02:21. | |
into context. You do. Defensively, they haven't been tested yet. But | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
you do have to admire the free-flowing football they are | :02:26. | :02:27. | |
playing. They are losing confidence, and it is not just Lukaku scoring. | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
They are getting goals from different positions. They won the | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
first three games of the last season. The encouraging thing for | :02:37. | :02:46. | |
them is the manner in which they are winning these games. The eight goals | :02:47. | :02:53. | |
they scored 15% of the total goals they scored last season in the | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
Premier League. Bearing in mind that this God a little over 50 goals. So | :02:57. | :03:07. | |
this is a signal of intent. I haven't known Old Trafford bouncing | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
like that for a good few seasons. I would not say quite since Sir Alex | :03:12. | :03:14. | |
left, but not far off it. So that has given everyone in the lift. And | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
they have options on the bench. They are bringing on Martial with 15 | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
minutes to go, putting teams to the sword. It is what United used to do, | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
having cowed opponents. It sends out a message that they are a different | :03:31. | :03:37. | |
team. We will expand on that message in just a moment, but let's hear | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
from Jose Mourinho. United yesterday scored their last three goals in | :03:41. | :03:47. | |
just three minutes and 41 seconds. It happens with me so many times | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
with my teams. You are winning 1-0 and you are in trouble. You score a | :03:54. | :03:56. | |
second goal, let's close the door and don't give a chance to the | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
opponent. We scored the second goal and the feeling was, we can score | :04:01. | :04:05. | |
more. So no need to close the door. Just let the horses run freely! And | :04:06. | :04:13. | |
were magnificent. Always great when you have two macro guests with the | :04:14. | :04:21. | |
same first name. Alex Bruce, you were part of a Premier League team | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
last season. Expand on Andy's point that maybe last week's win is more | :04:26. | :04:31. | |
important in the sense of teams may be going back to Old Trafford | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
thinking they don't stand a chance, whereas most teams arguably went | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
there last season of the season before thinking they had a chance. | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
Well, if Man Utd were going to improve, you could say their home | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
form last year wasn't the best. But when you have the pace and the power | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
they have now and Lukaku getting an early goal at Old Trafford like he | :04:50. | :04:56. | |
did, Pogba chipping in with goals. They have so many options with | :04:57. | :05:04. | |
Rashfords, Lingards. If they can make all covered a fortress like | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
they always had, it would give them the impetus to achieve something | :05:08. | :05:14. | |
special. I think sometimes, the mentality of the players is | :05:15. | :05:16. | |
interesting. You heard Jose saying he let the horses run freely. But | :05:17. | :05:24. | |
that is not his instinct. His instinct would be to have the horses | :05:25. | :05:30. | |
on a tight rein. I got the impression in the last week that his | :05:31. | :05:41. | |
instinct with a 2-0 win is to shut up shop. That is what he has always | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
been great at. I thought he was thinking of doing that against West | :05:47. | :05:49. | |
Ham, but the choice was taken out of his hands. You have players like | :05:50. | :05:56. | |
Pogba, Lukaku, Martial. These are players who want to win handsomely. | :05:57. | :06:04. | |
The celebrations when Pogba scored yesterday, they are enjoying what | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
they are doing. Mourinho is now confident in his team. He is | :06:09. | :06:16. | |
confident, he has a different body language to what we saw last season. | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
Tactically, talking about trying to shut up shop at 2-0, when Fellaini | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
has come on, do you think Pogba has then been pushed further forward? | :06:29. | :06:35. | |
Pogba is a very skilful footballer. People go on about the pace and | :06:36. | :06:40. | |
power in this United team, but they are incredibly skilful and Pogba | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
showed yesterday how skilful he is. This macro, his goal was an | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
exquisite finish. It shows the talent in him. He is literally | :06:50. | :06:54. | |
driving this Man Utd team forward. Sometimes he is unstoppable. Once he | :06:55. | :06:58. | |
has the ball at his feet and he was driving through the midfield, | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
players can't stop him. We haven't even stopped on the guile of | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
Mkhitaryan and Mata. They have a nice blend now. They have a bit of | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
crap with those players and the pace -- they have a bit of craft with the | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
pace of Lukaku. But there is still a big butt. Do you think Mourinho is | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
different this season? I was out in Macedonia for the Super Cup. I | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
noticed a slight difference. No one loves trophies more than Jose | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
Mourinho. That is why he counts the Community Shield as a trophy. He | :07:35. | :07:37. | |
probably can say game against his kids as a trophy. He can list you | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
every trophy in order. But I got the impression out there that he was | :07:43. | :07:54. | |
using that game as the final preparation game, and he was | :07:55. | :08:03. | |
confident. He wasn't worried about a perceived chasm between the two | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
sides. I got the impression that he was much more bullish about this | :08:08. | :08:14. | |
season. He usually plays it down, but I got the impression that he was | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
very happy with his transfer business and happy with the players | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
that had gone. I don't mean that in a disrespectful sense. But I think | :08:23. | :08:30. | |
he thinks it is a better squad. I see what you're saying. When you let | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
the likes of Rooney goal, it's important that you replace them. And | :08:36. | :08:41. | |
if Lukaku can carry on as he is... But Lukaku offers more options than | :08:42. | :08:46. | |
Ibrahimovic. He does in terms of running behind. If he had signed | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
Ibrahimovic five years ago, he would have offered a different kind of | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
play to what he did last season. But Ibrahimovic did score a lot of goals | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
last season and there is talk of him coming back. I think Mourinho has a | :09:00. | :09:06. | |
massive point to prove. I think he thinks he has been, not written off, | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
but he has looked around at the praise that other coaches get for | :09:11. | :09:13. | |
the way they are playing, is dam at Real Madrid Pep Guardiola and | :09:14. | :09:21. | |
Pochettino with Spurs. And I think Jose has gone to the season | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
thinking, people are looking at me not as yesterday's man, but playing | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
a brand of football that is not up-to-date. That is where Mourinho | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
was smart. You can only work with what you've got. So he got last | :09:35. | :09:40. | |
season's players scoring goals. This season, totally different. He has | :09:41. | :09:46. | |
got the players he wants. The worst thing is a manager trying to impose | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
a philosophy on a group of players who can't deliver. Are you talking | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
about Crystal Palace? No! We may come to that later. Yeah, you can | :09:58. | :10:04. | |
only work with the players you have got. MO says, we are back stronger | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
than later. Jay says, we have to be patient. One final point on United. | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
Paul says, I think we are far from the Champions League. Maybe in | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
another year. Our squad is good, but not world class. That puts it into | :10:22. | :10:28. | |
some perspective. Well, you can't run before you walk. It is going to | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
take time. To win the Champions League, you have to be a specialty. | :10:35. | :10:44. | |
You could see that people like Real Madrid are in a different league at | :10:45. | :10:47. | |
them and, the way they blow teams away. Lots of texts and tweets on | :10:48. | :10:54. | |
Arsenal as well. Most of them begin with the word why? Eric - why is it | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
difficult for Arsenal to get it right? Puzzled by Wenger's | :10:59. | :11:01. | |
reluctance to make subs early. Terry, why don't we buy the players | :11:02. | :11:07. | |
we need? Why do we repeat our mistakes? Get something done. Tim - | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
you don't win a title with half the team showing no commitment. Let's | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
get the thoughts of Arsene Wenger after that defeat at Stoke | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
yesterday. It was the kind of game where you couldn't afford to make a | :11:20. | :11:27. | |
defensive mistake. But they defended well and we couldn't find an | :11:28. | :11:32. | |
opening. I believe defensively, we have no real excuse on that. We knew | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
it was important not to make a mistake at the back. And we gave | :11:39. | :11:47. | |
them a cheap goal. Why, why, why, Alex Scott? I am asking why well. | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
It's the same old talking points with Arsenal. It's frustrating. | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
Especially after the character they showed last week, winning the game | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
against Leicester. You were hoping they would get a goal. The amount of | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
opportunities we created yesterday, Arsene Wenger may feel hard done by. | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
It is frustrating. And it is the same old talking points. After the | :12:12. | :12:18. | |
Leicester win as well as yesterday, the other one is that the three at | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
the back worked for Arsenal towards the end of last season, and yet at | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
the moment, if you look at the three at the back, there are two | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
left-backs. There is a right-winger at right back. It is all a bit | :12:32. | :12:39. | |
confused. It is a bit confusing. A lot of people are asking why. They | :12:40. | :12:44. | |
are leaky. They give the opposition a chance all the time. We saw it | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
last week against Leicester. Going to a place like Stoke yesterday, | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
would you have fancied Arsenal at Stoke? On paper, maybe. But history | :12:53. | :13:01. | |
tells you otherwise. They have to be more consistent. When we talk about | :13:02. | :13:07. | |
Man Utd and their physicality and power and our drive to midfield, I | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
suppose going to Stoke with Arsenal yesterday, that is what is lacking | :13:13. | :13:15. | |
in their team. A Patrick Vieira of old who can drive them forward. But | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
why hammer Mesut Ozil? If Arsenal have a bad performance, the easy | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
target is to hammer Mesut Ozil. Surely the problems are bigger than | :13:26. | :13:31. | |
whether a player tracks back or not. And he doesn't track back. I think | :13:32. | :13:39. | |
Mesut Ozil is a fantastic player. He didn't play badly yesterday. I saw | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
him have a fantastic game at Stoke. The last time they were at Stoke, | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
they battered to Stoke. But Sanchez was on that team and he played | :13:48. | :13:56. | |
spectacularly well. I think the issue is that in Wenger, you have a | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
manager who has played a similar system for the best part of two | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
decades and has now changed it round, and they don't look | :14:03. | :14:09. | |
comfortable. Also, a lot of change was promised. When anyone breaks up, | :14:10. | :14:17. | |
you they say, no, we will be different, and they do the same old | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
things after it is settled. After spending, they haven't brought in | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
enough players of quality. There needs leaders. When you look back on | :14:28. | :14:35. | |
the defensive rocks they have always built their strength on, you look at | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
the Arsenal squad at the minute and think, where are those characters? | :14:40. | :14:43. | |
Dan has sent us a tweet that is the Arsenal defence of the moment looks | :14:44. | :14:45. | |
like something you put together when you have ran out of money on fantasy | :14:46. | :14:52. | |
football. What is Wenger thinking? Or maybe when you want to put loads | :14:53. | :14:55. | |
of full-backs in your back through because they get more points than | :14:56. | :14:57. | |
the centre halves in fantasy football. #bbcfootball if you want | :14:58. | :15:04. | |
to get in touch. Let's focus on the first of today's games, Huddersfield | :15:05. | :15:08. | |
against Newcastle. Juliette Ferrington is there. | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
It is another glorious day for a Sunday afternoon football, this game | :15:14. | :15:19. | |
has been sold out for weeks. Huddersfield against Newcastle, | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
Kevin Kilbane, you know about Huddersfield, you have played here, | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
there is a buzz about this place? We got here very early today, you | :15:27. | :15:34. | |
can feel what it means. We were reading a piece in The Times last | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
week with the owner, Dean Hoyle, what he has put into this club and | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
what it is meant to him over the course of his life, that is when you | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
get a feel for everything. You speak to supporters outside and there is a | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
buzz around the place. The old cliche, but you feel like it will be | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
a full house, full of expectancy, it will be interesting to see what | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
Newcastle do, can they cope with the atmosphere that will be put against | :16:01. | :16:12. | |
them? The penalty shoot out in May. Dean Hoyle so proud to be able to | :16:13. | :16:15. | |
write these notes for their first-ever home Premier League game. | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
It is what it means. In the 70s is when they have been in the Football | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
League, to get into the top flight, the Premier League, the club is | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
probably still in a bit of a transition, still trying to come to | :16:31. | :16:33. | |
terms with everything it takes to be a Premier League club. With the | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
start they had last week, I am sure that gives them are meant. | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
Particularly coming back here, full of expectancy, that sort of result | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
gives a team belief. I am sure Wagoner will be getting the side | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
fully geared up. It is probably what Newcastle do, how they can maybe | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
contain the atmosphere in the crowd. Huddersfield won last week, | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
Newcastle lost. They played each other in the Championship last | :17:01. | :17:04. | |
season but this is a different proposition for Newcastle? You are | :17:05. | :17:11. | |
looking... The mindset has change. Mentally, Huddersfield with a | :17:12. | :17:14. | |
promotion, which they got, they are on the up. But Newcastle, with Rafa | :17:15. | :17:20. | |
Benitez, he has been quite open in the last few weeks, he has not been | :17:21. | :17:25. | |
happy with how the transfer market has gone. Huddersfield have the | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
business done, they have players in, David Wagner is happy at the | :17:30. | :17:33. | |
momentum is with them. Two different mindsets completely, that is where | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
we might see how Newcastle can contain it. | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
A totally different Huddersfield squad. Full commentary of | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
Huddersfield against Newcastle, Kevin Kilbane is the summariser on 5 | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
live sport from 1:30pm. He will be alongside Conor McNamara | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
for the game, Conor can give us the team news. | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
Huddersfield are riding on a wave after that victory against Crystal | :17:59. | :18:01. | |
Palace last week. This is their first home game in the top flight | :18:02. | :18:04. | |
for 45 years, what changed to the starting XI, Rajeev Ram DePaulo, a | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
half brother of Wijnaldum of Liverpool, he takes the place of | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
Kasey Palmer. A difficult start the Newcastle last weekend, Jonjo | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
Shelvey was sent off in that place and is suspended today. Mikhail | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
Marino, who has joined from Dortmund, who made his Newcastle | :18:26. | :18:32. | |
debut as a substitute against Spurs. Dummett was injured in the opening | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
game. The cells and Mbemba coming to the defence. Three changes for | :18:39. | :18:41. | |
Newcastle as they go chasing their first points of the new season. | :18:42. | :18:49. | |
Alex Bruce, Alex Scott and Andy join -- Andy Dunn join me on Match of the | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
Day 2 Extra. You mentioned that this is a good game for Huddersfield to | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
start with that home? Why? Newcastle have had a bad start. Rafa Benitez | :18:58. | :19:02. | |
has openly come out and said he is not happy with the transfer policy, | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
there are rumblings, a lack of discipline last week. If you could | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
have picked a better game to take on any Premier League game, Newcastle | :19:12. | :19:15. | |
would be perfect the way things are for Huddersfield, especially after | :19:16. | :19:19. | |
the result last week. You have come up to the Premier League with a | :19:20. | :19:24. | |
team, for those first few weeks, what is your advice to this | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
Huddersfield squad? Enjoy it. They have worked very hard last season to | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
get into the Premier League, there is no real pressure on them because | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
people will probably write them off, think they will struggle. If you | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
think you have cracked it and you think last week was a great result | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
and you can walk all over Newcastle, you can be brought back down to over | :19:47. | :19:52. | |
very quickly, I will say that. Just on enjoying it, is that easier said | :19:53. | :20:04. | |
than done? You worked hard to get there, nobody expects anything, you | :20:05. | :20:07. | |
might not expect anything. If you have a couple of defeats like bright | :20:08. | :20:10. | |
and early on, you can deal with it. If it gets to October maybe add you | :20:11. | :20:13. | |
have won one of the first eight or nine, to keep saying enjoy it and | :20:14. | :20:16. | |
nobody expects you to be here, the competitive professional in you | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
cannot deal with that? Lots of those Huddersfield players have not played | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
at Anfield, Manchester United, Chelsea, they have worked all their | :20:25. | :20:27. | |
lives for it and they will naturally enjoy it. I understand what you say, | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
when you lose a couple of games confidence can be knocked, but you | :20:33. | :20:38. | |
saw last week they played with free spirit, enjoyed it, the pressure was | :20:39. | :20:40. | |
off, they steam-rolled Crystal Palace. They had to take every game | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
as it comes and try to replicate what they did last week. Only one | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
week into the season, who is better equipped to stay up out of | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
Huddersfield and Newcastle? About going off last week, maybe | :20:54. | :20:56. | |
Huddersfield. Touching on your point, they are one of the youngest | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
sides in the Premier League, which comes with younger players having no | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
fear, the expectation is off. They won last week, this is a game that | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
everyone is talking about, Huddersfield are expected to beat | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
Newcastle and expectation means that things change, as a play your | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
mindset changes, we are expected to win, you look at it differently. It | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
will be interesting to see how it pans out. | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
You can't use the same argument with Newcastle, you can't really say to | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
Newcastle enjoy it, because a lot of people do expect Newcastle to be | :21:32. | :21:37. | |
here. Have a natural expectation, a big club, everybody knows what it is | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
like in the north-east, they are so passionate about their football. If | :21:41. | :21:48. | |
they get a that today it will be a horrific start. That expectation has | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
been, in a way, by what has happened in the summer, the dynamic between | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
Benitez, Ashley and the board, almost dampened. The supporters are | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
looking at it and thinking because Benitez has been perceived not to | :22:00. | :22:02. | |
have the backing that he expected in the transfer market, they are not | :22:03. | :22:08. | |
expected to pull up any serious trees. No, but they are less likely | :22:09. | :22:16. | |
to view, and I'm constantly trying not to patronise anybody in this | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
conversation, but less likely to view a trip to the Emirates or | :22:21. | :22:26. | |
Anfield is a day out. Yes. In terms of the players and the fans? I guess | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
so, I don't know. I think they will enjoy those days, they have been | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
away from it for a season. I don't entirely buy into that, I genuinely | :22:38. | :22:40. | |
think their expectations are not great. That is because of what has | :22:41. | :22:48. | |
happened. Because of the discontent, the seeming discontent, behind the | :22:49. | :22:52. | |
scenes in terms of the manager 's. I don't understand why Mike Ashley has | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
explained, sitting in front of TV cameras, why he is not spending the | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
money, Rafa Benitez has come out. For a team which is just been | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
promoted, it is a strange thing to do. You would want to keep the | :23:06. | :23:08. | |
momentum in the camp, picking up from last season, their success, why | :23:09. | :23:14. | |
is start the season negatively? The stories were coming out as long ago | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
as full six weeks in the newspapers saying Benitez is not quite on the | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
brink but seriously considering the future if he does not get the | :23:25. | :23:28. | |
backing. They were not a magic to out of thin air, those stories hard | :23:29. | :23:34. | |
grounds, said that ball rolling. Rafter is quite happy for it to be | :23:35. | :23:39. | |
out there for everyone to perceive, certainly the Newcastle fans, that | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
he is not getting the backing he thinks he was promised. Not that he | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
deserves, that he thinks he was promised by Mike Ashley. Mike Ashley | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
says I do not have the money of Man City, Chelsea or whatever. Neil | :23:53. | :23:56. | |
Ashton has written in the sum that they are considering bringing Andy | :23:57. | :24:02. | |
Carroll back. Would you? If he is fit he will get you goals, that is | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
what Newcastle need. They are renowned for having the number nine | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
striker that will get you goals. Personally, I don't see it | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
happening. I think West Ham will do all they can to keep hold of him, I | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
am not sure whether Keynes Fish where that came from. No, another | :24:20. | :24:25. | |
player says that with him being linked Newcastle are now linked to | :24:26. | :24:28. | |
900 players. One person says I would take a back any day, and experience, | :24:29. | :24:34. | |
proven goal-scorer. Can they afford him? Probably. Wages as well? They | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
can afford him. They need to bring him back to full fitness first. That | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
would be the gamble. It is getting these things done. One of Rafa's | :24:46. | :24:50. | |
biggest frustrations is the amount of deals that may be have been in | :24:51. | :24:53. | |
the pipeline and they have not got over the finishing line is, they | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
have not got them sealed. Abraham goes to Swansea, they are waiting to | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
take Kennedy on loan from Chelsea. These things are not getting done, | :25:02. | :25:06. | |
that is part of his frustration. Moving on to West Ham, Robbie says | :25:07. | :25:09. | |
after a night to think about yesterday that my grade is always | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
good to take your time before texting... If we had 11 men on the | :25:14. | :25:19. | |
pitch we would have done better. We says we can challenge for top eight, | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
no excuses, get up and running as soon as possible. Alex, you watch | :25:25. | :25:32. | |
this on Final Score yesterday. Did you see a site that could challenge | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
for the top eight? Not yesterday, and not last week against Man Utd. I | :25:37. | :25:40. | |
watched it with Trevor Sinclair and when they went down to ten players | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
we were both screaming. Something needs to change. They got a goal | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
against the run of play. Southampton had endless opportunities to put the | :25:50. | :25:52. | |
game to bed earlier. We saw great character for them to get back in | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
the game, Hernandez played a huge part. But I don't see them | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
challenging. I think there are worrying signs defensively and | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
tactically, but there are worrying signs. Fonte looks like he is | :26:08. | :26:14. | |
running through treacle, no place at all. Alex Bruce says that the | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
performance reiterates that Bilic is tactically clueless, nice guy but | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
not the right man to lead us forward. I am not sure he is | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
tactically clueless. They have had a difficult start and brought in a lot | :26:27. | :26:32. | |
of players. Joe Hart, Zabaleta, Hernandez, Fonte, they have bags of | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
experience and once they gel and they know what the Premier League is | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
all about, it is a question... Top eight? Not for me. They looked slow | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
against Manchester United, quite laboured. The centre midfielder | :26:49. | :26:56. | |
brings an incredible tenacity but he looked a little bit off the pace | :26:57. | :27:01. | |
yesterday. The signings, at the time... You disagree on Joe Hart? | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
Yes. The signings were lauded as great signings. Zabaleta is clearly | :27:08. | :27:14. | |
in the final stretch of his career. He has had a great career, he is in | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
the final stretch. He was exposed last week by Rashford in particular | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
against United. Joe Hart, Adrian was a very popular keeper at West Ham, a | :27:25. | :27:29. | |
very popular guy and a good keeper. You bring in Joe Hart, a big-name | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
signing, he has been through a situation over the last year where | :27:35. | :27:36. | |
unfortunately for a goalkeeper he has been through a situation over | :27:37. | :27:38. | |
the last year where unfortunately for a goalkeeper here's conceding a | :27:39. | :27:41. | |
lot, that simple. The idea that Guardiola deemed him surplus to | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
requirements because he was not great with the ball at his feet, I | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
think, was only a fraction of the issue. I think Guardiola does not | :27:49. | :27:53. | |
think he is a good enough goalkeeper and I think he is going through a | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
spell, you look at the seven goals West Ham have conceded, you cannot | :27:59. | :28:01. | |
say it is a mistake by Joe Hart. Some goals are going in easy. Over | :28:02. | :28:07. | |
the last 28 shots on target he has faced, I think 17 or 18 have become | :28:08. | :28:14. | |
goals. They may not be his fault, they might have been great shots, | :28:15. | :28:21. | |
but when you get into that groove, to a certain extent, I am not sure | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
it inspires confidence in defence. I think Joe has a lot of work to do to | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
keep his England place. He has, but you can't get away from the fact | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
that he has been a top goalkeeper, there have been plans where he has | :28:35. | :28:37. | |
put in performances for Man City when you think he is a top keeper. | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
He has been in Italy, in the different league, a totally | :28:43. | :28:49. | |
different ball game. Replacing a popular goalkeeper is an interesting | :28:50. | :28:51. | |
theory, it changes the dynamic amongst the back four. Yes, and they | :28:52. | :28:54. | |
have brought in different bodies, they had the injury to Winston Reid. | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
If they shape and work on that all week and your defender is stretched | :29:00. | :29:04. | |
off in warm up, that can throw you. They need to find the right blend of | :29:05. | :29:10. | |
youth and experience, I am sure they will be OK. They will be newsworthy. | :29:11. | :29:16. | |
It must be tough, Bilic, I think the owners have done a very good job at | :29:17. | :29:20. | |
West Ham and I like the way they run football clubs, but when you are out | :29:21. | :29:24. | |
there as well, they are not afraid to speak and say they want to sign | :29:25. | :29:28. | |
this player or that a performance was not good enough, it must be a | :29:29. | :29:34. | |
difficult environment for Bilic. Moving on to Liverpool against | :29:35. | :29:38. | |
Crystal Palace, one of the performers who got a lot of | :29:39. | :29:42. | |
attention yesterday is Andy Robinson, a former team-mate of Alex | :29:43. | :29:48. | |
Bruce. As a fellow full-back, Alex Scott, what difference will he make | :29:49. | :29:52. | |
to that back four? And you only have one game to go on at the moment. I | :29:53. | :29:58. | |
think he made the Liverpool backline looked balance yesterday, I was | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
impressed with his performance, especially going forward. Putting | :30:03. | :30:06. | |
crosses into the right areas, his end product. He has not been tested | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
defensively. The modern day full-back, we like it when they | :30:12. | :30:14. | |
bombed forward and get on the scoresheet but your job is to | :30:15. | :30:18. | |
defend. We did not see that yesterday that he had a solid start | :30:19. | :30:22. | |
and I think it is promising going forward. He is a natural modern day | :30:23. | :30:28. | |
left-back in terms of ability to run forwards all game, 90 minutes, his | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
energy levels are fantastic, he has blistering pace, he will give them | :30:34. | :30:37. | |
an added dimension of the going forward and his final delivery, when | :30:38. | :30:49. | |
he first came to Liverpool, his final third delivery is improving | :30:50. | :30:53. | |
all the time. It'll be interesting to see him when he is stretched | :30:54. | :30:54. | |
defensively but he huge potential. When we look at him from a defensive | :30:55. | :31:07. | |
point of view, as a centre-half, what are you looking for your | :31:08. | :31:10. | |
fallback to do to perform at the top defensively? You need a full-back | :31:11. | :31:19. | |
you can rely on. You don't want your fallback in an attacking sense. It's | :31:20. | :31:26. | |
a positional sense. So if the ball goes over your head, he's there to | :31:27. | :31:32. | |
knock out with his head or clear the ball. If you could label anything | :31:33. | :31:41. | |
that was a bit suspect in the last season, that would be it, but he has | :31:42. | :31:47. | |
improved massively. Another player from your Hull days, Harry Maguire, | :31:48. | :31:54. | |
was excellent for Leicester yesterday. I think Harry could be | :31:55. | :31:58. | |
the signing of the summer. In terms of players I have played with and | :31:59. | :32:01. | |
what you want from it one half, he has a bit of everything. His | :32:02. | :32:07. | |
position has improved. He is immaculate taking the ball and | :32:08. | :32:10. | |
running into midfield. He is a threat from set pieces. He's a | :32:11. | :32:15. | |
physical presence. He has all the makings of a top centre-half, and he | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
is getting better. They pointed out on match of the daily might that he | :32:21. | :32:26. | |
was feasible in a two for Leicester won a lot of the time last season, | :32:27. | :32:32. | |
he played in three. Well, when you are in three, you can come out the | :32:33. | :32:37. | |
ball. With Harry, whether he plays in a three or his two, he has his | :32:38. | :32:42. | |
way of wanting to play. And Shakespeare hasn't said to him to | :32:43. | :32:46. | |
concentrate on defending. He wants him to express himself and join in. | :32:47. | :32:52. | |
When he has get the momentum, he take some stopping. What I was | :32:53. | :32:58. | |
impressed with is that in the modern day, you want your defenders to be | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
front foot defenders full stops so get in there, intercept and create a | :33:03. | :33:08. | |
tax. That was what he did yesterday. The intercept is interesting. One we | :33:09. | :33:10. | |
talk about defending not being as good and as soon as you go to ground | :33:11. | :33:15. | |
or fly into a tackle, the whistle is going to go, actually, how you | :33:16. | :33:20. | |
intercept becomes even more crucial. Yeah, because you need to read the | :33:21. | :33:27. | |
game. The next step is to set up a counterattack. I am sure there will | :33:28. | :33:37. | |
be contrasts between someone like Maguire and Don stones. For stones, | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
that was always his strength. But when it goes wrong, last year with | :33:43. | :33:51. | |
City versus Everton, he has gone in for the intercept and timed it | :33:52. | :33:57. | |
wrong. And Lukaku scored the equaliser for Everton. But I like a | :33:58. | :34:01. | |
centre-half to do that. They seem more reluctant nowadays. The one | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
thing that is different between John Stones and Harry is that they are | :34:06. | :34:08. | |
both exceptional on the ball. Harry has the power to push you out of the | :34:09. | :34:13. | |
way. He's such a physical presence. You don't realise how big a man he | :34:14. | :34:17. | |
is until you stand next to him. It would take a hell of a powerful man | :34:18. | :34:24. | |
to shift him. Is it also fair to say that if Harry Maguire had made the | :34:25. | :34:28. | |
mistake that John Stones had made last season, there might have been | :34:29. | :34:30. | |
less attention on it at that stage of his career? Of course. John was | :34:31. | :34:37. | |
thrown in at the deep end with Man City. When you play for Hull, you | :34:38. | :34:43. | |
are not scrutinised as you are for Manchester City. And it gives you a | :34:44. | :34:47. | |
bit of leeway to make a mistake. To try things. And Harry has been able | :34:48. | :34:53. | |
to do that and he is seeing the rewards now. Just one mention of | :34:54. | :35:06. | |
Coutinho. The Express have upped it to 130 million as what Barca might | :35:07. | :35:11. | |
go up to. Does it make a difference? I don't think it does. I am not sure | :35:12. | :35:24. | |
the Klopp would want to keep a player who doesn't want to be there. | :35:25. | :35:31. | |
But fair play, they are not going to be bullied by Barcelona. They are | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
taking a stance. Now we are going to go to Wembley and talk to Steve | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
Wilson, who is commentating on Spurs against Chelsea for Match Of The Day | :35:41. | :35:46. | |
2 later this afternoon, sitting in the dugout in the sunshine at | :35:47. | :35:49. | |
Wembley. If you're listening to us on the radio, there are also the | :35:50. | :35:55. | |
Spurs covers all over the dugout. Does it feel like a Spurs home game | :35:56. | :36:02. | |
yet, Steve? Not really. It certainly looks Spurs, with the seat covers. | :36:03. | :36:09. | |
They have the motto inside the tunnel, to dairies to do that right | :36:10. | :36:19. | |
to bear is to do. But it doesn't really feel like Spurs. White Hart | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
Lane was so much smaller. Wembley is huge. Not as huge as it will be for | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
some games they play here this season, because we are not up to the | :36:29. | :36:32. | |
full 90,000 capacity. There are some seats covered by black tarpaulin | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
because Brent Council have limited the number of tickets Spurs could | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
sell today because it's a category A high-risk game. Yet we might beat | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
the Premier League record. If we don't beat it, we will be close to | :36:47. | :36:52. | |
it. That stands at 76,019 98, when Manchester United played Blackburn | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
ten years ago. We will be close to it. Spurs will certainly set a new | :36:57. | :37:01. | |
record here at Wembley not just for Premier League football, but for any | :37:02. | :37:04. | |
regular season domestic game played in England ever. Spurs will beat | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
that record this season at some point, possibly when they play | :37:09. | :37:11. | |
Burnley here in their next home game. So great excitement. It | :37:12. | :37:15. | |
promises to be a wonderful occasion, but it doesn't feel like White Hart | :37:16. | :37:20. | |
Lane. We were having a discussion fair. -- fair. This is a good | :37:21. | :37:30. | |
opening game for Wembley in that surely Chelsea at home, they ought | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
to be able to recreate the Passion of White Hart Lane rather than it | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
being a sterile occasion? Well, I have just been speaking to our | :37:39. | :37:44. | |
football correspondent about that point. I said if Mauricio Pochettino | :37:45. | :37:51. | |
could pick a game and an opponent of their first game at Wembley, it | :37:52. | :37:54. | |
would be Chelsea now, firstly because Chelsea are weaker than they | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
will be in a few weeks' time, and secondly because if they beat | :37:59. | :38:01. | |
Chelsea here, and they have every chance of doing so, it completely | :38:02. | :38:05. | |
kicks the whole Wembley hoodoo into touch. Everyone is banging on about | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
one defeat in nine in their last nine matches here under the arch, | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
and that is true and three of those defeats came against Chelsea on the | :38:14. | :38:17. | |
ground. But if they beat the champions here today in the Wembley | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
sunshine mother who do is gone and no one will talk about it any more | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
and we can all lay that to rest. And funnily enough, people say Spurs | :38:27. | :38:29. | |
haven't signed anyone, and that is true. They have their first signing | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
yesterday from Ajax. But picking the same 11 at the beginning of the | :38:35. | :38:37. | |
season might give you an edge for a week or two. No one is getting used | :38:38. | :38:42. | |
to the country. Everybody knows what they are doing. If I had to get off | :38:43. | :38:47. | |
the fence, I would say Spurs will win today. Steve Wilson, thank you. | :38:48. | :38:56. | |
You can hear the game on 5 Live from four o'clock. Alex Scott, would you | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
go along with that, the perfect opening game for Spurs? It is, it's | :39:02. | :39:07. | |
an exciting game. It's interesting, because they did make White Hart | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
Lane last year a fortress. They went unbeaten at home all season. So it | :39:12. | :39:17. | |
is a massive talking point. I remember going back some years now | :39:18. | :39:20. | |
with Arsenal, the Champions League final for us, the ladies, we chose | :39:21. | :39:25. | |
our home ground of Borehamwood instead of playing at the Emirates, | :39:26. | :39:28. | |
because we knew we could pack it out, and the atmosphere does help | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
you as a player. The crowd helped us get across the line. It is not the | :39:33. | :39:40. | |
pitch size. Alex is right. It's the intensity you feed from the crowd. | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
When you play at White Hart Lane, it's like one of the old-fashioned | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
football grounds. The supporters are on top of you. Tottenham did make it | :39:51. | :39:56. | |
like a fortress. However, I fully agree that you couldn't wish for a | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
better game to beat Chelsea to wipe the hoodoo straightaway. Personally, | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
I believe Tottenham are such a good team that no matter what stadium | :40:07. | :40:09. | |
they play in, they can deal with what is thrown at them. Could you | :40:10. | :40:22. | |
build this also as a club moving against a club that appears to be | :40:23. | :40:28. | |
slightly chaotic at the moment? You could, but against that argument, | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
Chelsea are champions and have been champions five times in the last 13 | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
seasons. They have won the Champions League. They have won the FA Cup | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
four times. So when Antonio Conte turned around on Friday to say, this | :40:43. | :40:46. | |
is the club that we should be looking to emulate, Spurs, | :40:47. | :40:50. | |
Abramovich must be sat there thinking, what is he talking about? | :40:51. | :40:55. | |
That is not how Chelsea operate. You have to accept that. But in terms of | :40:56. | :41:04. | |
whether there is any acrimony in the camp, there is probably not in | :41:05. | :41:08. | |
Spurs. Even so, the stuff about wages that Danny Rose brought up | :41:09. | :41:14. | |
might bring discord at some stage. And Spurs, in terms of 18, -- in | :41:15. | :41:21. | |
terms of a team, they lost walker, but they knew that was going to | :41:22. | :41:25. | |
happen. So as a team, they seem to be going in the right direction. | :41:26. | :41:29. | |
That is why I think the Wembley situation will be an issue, but at | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
the moment, they are the form team of 2017 in the Premier League. And | :41:34. | :41:36. | |
Chelsea will be unsettled on the pitch as well. There is no Cahill, | :41:37. | :41:44. | |
no Fabregas. You can't predict this Chelsea line-up, and that is a | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
positive for Spurs. They have that consistency. They know their jobs. | :41:49. | :41:54. | |
So that is at four o'clock. You can listen to it on 5 Live and watch it | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
on Match Of The Day 2 later. I realise Watford fans are probably | :41:59. | :42:03. | |
screaming at the TV or radio. They got four points from their opening | :42:04. | :42:06. | |
six games under Marco Silva. This programme worked out perfectly for | :42:07. | :42:12. | |
you, because you have worked under Marco Silva as well. What will he | :42:13. | :42:16. | |
have brought to Watford? He is immaculate in his preparation. He | :42:17. | :42:22. | |
works every day with the players. He goes through everything. And you can | :42:23. | :42:30. | |
see in the way they have started the season, they are organised. I would | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
not expect anything less from Marco Silva. He had a great start at Hull, | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
and you fell away towards the end. Did he work you too hard? Maybe. It | :42:40. | :42:45. | |
was definitely different to the regime we had before. There were no | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
days off. He had you out in the afternoons. A very foreign coachman | :42:50. | :42:58. | |
Tansey in terms of, -- a very foreign coach mentality in terms of | :42:59. | :43:01. | |
there being no time away from the training ground. It will be | :43:02. | :43:06. | |
interesting to see how they do. But you sense that might be stability | :43:07. | :43:11. | |
now at Watford. You are laughing, but Marco Silva hasn't gone to | :43:12. | :43:19. | |
Watford for one season, surely? No. In his last two games, he has made | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
this Watford side look very organised and hard to break down, so | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
I do see it as a long term project at Watford, which is a change. | :43:28. | :43:33. | |
Watford had a drink 's reception at the start of the season for the | :43:34. | :43:36. | |
press. It is a different manager at the start of every season. We have | :43:37. | :43:40. | |
all gone away thinking, this one could be the guy. I hope he is. | :43:41. | :43:46. | |
Thank you to Alex and Alex and Andy. Thank you for your texts and tweets | :43:47. | :43:48. | |
this afternoon. Don't forget, you can | :43:49. | :43:49. | |
hear both of today's Huddersfield against Newcastle, | :43:50. | :43:51. | |
followed by Spurs against Chelsea. I'll be back tonight for MOTD2, | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
alongside Ruud Gullit | :43:57. | :44:00. |