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Hello, welcome to Match Of The Day 2 Extra on BBC Two, Radio 5 Live

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With me this afternoon, in the BBC Sport Centre

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Bury and former Hull defender Alex Bruce, England and

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and Andy Dunn, who's The Mirror's Chief Sports Writer.

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Get in touch using the hashtag #bbcfootball on social media

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Manchester United send a message to their rivals with a second

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Another season, another defeat at Stoke for Arsene Wenger's Arsenal,

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We'll be live in north-west London ahead of Tottenham's first

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Premier League game at Wembley against the champions at four.

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And another historic day for Huddersfield, who host Newcastle

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As far as the papers are concerned, the # Have the story that Manchester

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City will make Alexis Sanchez the highest-paid player in the Premier

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League on 400 grand a week. The Express have picked up Philippe

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Coutinho's prize to ?130 million. The Sunday Times are looking ahead

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to the England squad being maimed and they said Chalobah and Rooney

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might be called up by Gareth Southgate. How overboard do you want

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to go on Manchester United's performance, Alex Bruce? How

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overboard do you want me to go? They were special yesterday. They have

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had a great start. They epitomise everything Manchester United are

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about at the minute. They are a physical team with pace and power,

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strength and depth. And they blew Swansea away on their own patch. Do

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you have to take into account that it was Swansea and last week it was

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West Ham. Swansea and West Ham fans might have a go, but you have to put

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into context. You do. Defensively, they haven't been tested yet. But

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you do have to admire the free-flowing football they are

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playing. They are losing confidence, and it is not just Lukaku scoring.

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They are getting goals from different positions. They won the

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first three games of the last season. The encouraging thing for

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them is the manner in which they are winning these games. The eight goals

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they scored 15% of the total goals they scored last season in the

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Premier League. Bearing in mind that this God a little over 50 goals. So

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this is a signal of intent. I haven't known Old Trafford bouncing

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like that for a good few seasons. I would not say quite since Sir Alex

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left, but not far off it. So that has given everyone in the lift. And

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they have options on the bench. They are bringing on Martial with 15

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minutes to go, putting teams to the sword. It is what United used to do,

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having cowed opponents. It sends out a message that they are a different

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team. We will expand on that message in just a moment, but let's hear

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from Jose Mourinho. United yesterday scored their last three goals in

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just three minutes and 41 seconds. It happens with me so many times

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with my teams. You are winning 1-0 and you are in trouble. You score a

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second goal, let's close the door and don't give a chance to the

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opponent. We scored the second goal and the feeling was, we can score

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more. So no need to close the door. Just let the horses run freely! And

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were magnificent. Always great when you have two macro guests with the

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same first name. Alex Bruce, you were part of a Premier League team

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last season. Expand on Andy's point that maybe last week's win is more

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important in the sense of teams may be going back to Old Trafford

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thinking they don't stand a chance, whereas most teams arguably went

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there last season of the season before thinking they had a chance.

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Well, if Man Utd were going to improve, you could say their home

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form last year wasn't the best. But when you have the pace and the power

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they have now and Lukaku getting an early goal at Old Trafford like he

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did, Pogba chipping in with goals. They have so many options with

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Rashfords, Lingards. If they can make all covered a fortress like

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they always had, it would give them the impetus to achieve something

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special. I think sometimes, the mentality of the players is

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interesting. You heard Jose saying he let the horses run freely. But

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that is not his instinct. His instinct would be to have the horses

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on a tight rein. I got the impression in the last week that his

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instinct with a 2-0 win is to shut up shop. That is what he has always

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been great at. I thought he was thinking of doing that against West

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Ham, but the choice was taken out of his hands. You have players like

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Pogba, Lukaku, Martial. These are players who want to win handsomely.

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The celebrations when Pogba scored yesterday, they are enjoying what

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they are doing. Mourinho is now confident in his team. He is

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confident, he has a different body language to what we saw last season.

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Tactically, talking about trying to shut up shop at 2-0, when Fellaini

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has come on, do you think Pogba has then been pushed further forward?

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Pogba is a very skilful footballer. People go on about the pace and

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power in this United team, but they are incredibly skilful and Pogba

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showed yesterday how skilful he is. This macro, his goal was an

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exquisite finish. It shows the talent in him. He is literally

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driving this Man Utd team forward. Sometimes he is unstoppable. Once he

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has the ball at his feet and he was driving through the midfield,

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players can't stop him. We haven't even stopped on the guile of

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Mkhitaryan and Mata. They have a nice blend now. They have a bit of

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crap with those players and the pace -- they have a bit of craft with the

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pace of Lukaku. But there is still a big butt. Do you think Mourinho is

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different this season? I was out in Macedonia for the Super Cup. I

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noticed a slight difference. No one loves trophies more than Jose

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Mourinho. That is why he counts the Community Shield as a trophy. He

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probably can say game against his kids as a trophy. He can list you

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every trophy in order. But I got the impression out there that he was

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using that game as the final preparation game, and he was

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confident. He wasn't worried about a perceived chasm between the two

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sides. I got the impression that he was much more bullish about this

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season. He usually plays it down, but I got the impression that he was

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very happy with his transfer business and happy with the players

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that had gone. I don't mean that in a disrespectful sense. But I think

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he thinks it is a better squad. I see what you're saying. When you let

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the likes of Rooney goal, it's important that you replace them. And

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if Lukaku can carry on as he is... But Lukaku offers more options than

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Ibrahimovic. He does in terms of running behind. If he had signed

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Ibrahimovic five years ago, he would have offered a different kind of

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play to what he did last season. But Ibrahimovic did score a lot of goals

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last season and there is talk of him coming back. I think Mourinho has a

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massive point to prove. I think he thinks he has been, not written off,

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but he has looked around at the praise that other coaches get for

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the way they are playing, is dam at Real Madrid Pep Guardiola and

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Pochettino with Spurs. And I think Jose has gone to the season

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thinking, people are looking at me not as yesterday's man, but playing

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a brand of football that is not up-to-date. That is where Mourinho

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was smart. You can only work with what you've got. So he got last

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season's players scoring goals. This season, totally different. He has

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got the players he wants. The worst thing is a manager trying to impose

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a philosophy on a group of players who can't deliver. Are you talking

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about Crystal Palace? No! We may come to that later. Yeah, you can

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only work with the players you have got. MO says, we are back stronger

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than later. Jay says, we have to be patient. One final point on United.

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Paul says, I think we are far from the Champions League. Maybe in

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another year. Our squad is good, but not world class. That puts it into

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some perspective. Well, you can't run before you walk. It is going to

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take time. To win the Champions League, you have to be a specialty.

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You could see that people like Real Madrid are in a different league at

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them and, the way they blow teams away. Lots of texts and tweets on

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Arsenal as well. Most of them begin with the word why? Eric - why is it

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difficult for Arsenal to get it right? Puzzled by Wenger's

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reluctance to make subs early. Terry, why don't we buy the players

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we need? Why do we repeat our mistakes? Get something done. Tim -

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you don't win a title with half the team showing no commitment. Let's

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get the thoughts of Arsene Wenger after that defeat at Stoke

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yesterday. It was the kind of game where you couldn't afford to make a

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defensive mistake. But they defended well and we couldn't find an

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opening. I believe defensively, we have no real excuse on that. We knew

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it was important not to make a mistake at the back. And we gave

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them a cheap goal. Why, why, why, Alex Scott? I am asking why well.

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It's the same old talking points with Arsenal. It's frustrating.

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Especially after the character they showed last week, winning the game

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against Leicester. You were hoping they would get a goal. The amount of

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opportunities we created yesterday, Arsene Wenger may feel hard done by.

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It is frustrating. And it is the same old talking points. After the

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Leicester win as well as yesterday, the other one is that the three at

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the back worked for Arsenal towards the end of last season, and yet at

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the moment, if you look at the three at the back, there are two

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left-backs. There is a right-winger at right back. It is all a bit

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confused. It is a bit confusing. A lot of people are asking why. They

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are leaky. They give the opposition a chance all the time. We saw it

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last week against Leicester. Going to a place like Stoke yesterday,

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would you have fancied Arsenal at Stoke? On paper, maybe. But history

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tells you otherwise. They have to be more consistent. When we talk about

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Man Utd and their physicality and power and our drive to midfield, I

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suppose going to Stoke with Arsenal yesterday, that is what is lacking

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in their team. A Patrick Vieira of old who can drive them forward. But

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why hammer Mesut Ozil? If Arsenal have a bad performance, the easy

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target is to hammer Mesut Ozil. Surely the problems are bigger than

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whether a player tracks back or not. And he doesn't track back. I think

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Mesut Ozil is a fantastic player. He didn't play badly yesterday. I saw

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him have a fantastic game at Stoke. The last time they were at Stoke,

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they battered to Stoke. But Sanchez was on that team and he played

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spectacularly well. I think the issue is that in Wenger, you have a

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manager who has played a similar system for the best part of two

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decades and has now changed it round, and they don't look

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comfortable. Also, a lot of change was promised. When anyone breaks up,

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you they say, no, we will be different, and they do the same old

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things after it is settled. After spending, they haven't brought in

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enough players of quality. There needs leaders. When you look back on

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the defensive rocks they have always built their strength on, you look at

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the Arsenal squad at the minute and think, where are those characters?

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Dan has sent us a tweet that is the Arsenal defence of the moment looks

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like something you put together when you have ran out of money on fantasy

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football. What is Wenger thinking? Or maybe when you want to put loads

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of full-backs in your back through because they get more points than

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the centre halves in fantasy football. #bbcfootball if you want

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to get in touch. Let's focus on the first of today's games, Huddersfield

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against Newcastle. Juliette Ferrington is there.

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It is another glorious day for a Sunday afternoon football, this game

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has been sold out for weeks. Huddersfield against Newcastle,

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Kevin Kilbane, you know about Huddersfield, you have played here,

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there is a buzz about this place? We got here very early today, you

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can feel what it means. We were reading a piece in The Times last

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week with the owner, Dean Hoyle, what he has put into this club and

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what it is meant to him over the course of his life, that is when you

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get a feel for everything. You speak to supporters outside and there is a

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buzz around the place. The old cliche, but you feel like it will be

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a full house, full of expectancy, it will be interesting to see what

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Newcastle do, can they cope with the atmosphere that will be put against

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them? The penalty shoot out in May. Dean Hoyle so proud to be able to

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write these notes for their first-ever home Premier League game.

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It is what it means. In the 70s is when they have been in the Football

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League, to get into the top flight, the Premier League, the club is

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probably still in a bit of a transition, still trying to come to

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terms with everything it takes to be a Premier League club. With the

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start they had last week, I am sure that gives them are meant.

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Particularly coming back here, full of expectancy, that sort of result

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gives a team belief. I am sure Wagoner will be getting the side

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fully geared up. It is probably what Newcastle do, how they can maybe

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contain the atmosphere in the crowd. Huddersfield won last week,

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Newcastle lost. They played each other in the Championship last

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season but this is a different proposition for Newcastle? You are

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looking... The mindset has change. Mentally, Huddersfield with a

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promotion, which they got, they are on the up. But Newcastle, with Rafa

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Benitez, he has been quite open in the last few weeks, he has not been

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happy with how the transfer market has gone. Huddersfield have the

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business done, they have players in, David Wagner is happy at the

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momentum is with them. Two different mindsets completely, that is where

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we might see how Newcastle can contain it.

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A totally different Huddersfield squad. Full commentary of

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Huddersfield against Newcastle, Kevin Kilbane is the summariser on 5

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live sport from 1:30pm. He will be alongside Conor McNamara

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for the game, Conor can give us the team news.

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Huddersfield are riding on a wave after that victory against Crystal

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Palace last week. This is their first home game in the top flight

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for 45 years, what changed to the starting XI, Rajeev Ram DePaulo, a

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half brother of Wijnaldum of Liverpool, he takes the place of

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Kasey Palmer. A difficult start the Newcastle last weekend, Jonjo

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Shelvey was sent off in that place and is suspended today. Mikhail

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Marino, who has joined from Dortmund, who made his Newcastle

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debut as a substitute against Spurs. Dummett was injured in the opening

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game. The cells and Mbemba coming to the defence. Three changes for

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Newcastle as they go chasing their first points of the new season.

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Alex Bruce, Alex Scott and Andy join -- Andy Dunn join me on Match of the

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Day 2 Extra. You mentioned that this is a good game for Huddersfield to

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start with that home? Why? Newcastle have had a bad start. Rafa Benitez

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has openly come out and said he is not happy with the transfer policy,

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there are rumblings, a lack of discipline last week. If you could

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have picked a better game to take on any Premier League game, Newcastle

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would be perfect the way things are for Huddersfield, especially after

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the result last week. You have come up to the Premier League with a

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team, for those first few weeks, what is your advice to this

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Huddersfield squad? Enjoy it. They have worked very hard last season to

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get into the Premier League, there is no real pressure on them because

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people will probably write them off, think they will struggle. If you

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think you have cracked it and you think last week was a great result

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and you can walk all over Newcastle, you can be brought back down to over

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very quickly, I will say that. Just on enjoying it, is that easier said

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than done? You worked hard to get there, nobody expects anything, you

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might not expect anything. If you have a couple of defeats like bright

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and early on, you can deal with it. If it gets to October maybe add you

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have won one of the first eight or nine, to keep saying enjoy it and

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nobody expects you to be here, the competitive professional in you

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cannot deal with that? Lots of those Huddersfield players have not played

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at Anfield, Manchester United, Chelsea, they have worked all their

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lives for it and they will naturally enjoy it. I understand what you say,

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when you lose a couple of games confidence can be knocked, but you

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saw last week they played with free spirit, enjoyed it, the pressure was

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off, they steam-rolled Crystal Palace. They had to take every game

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as it comes and try to replicate what they did last week. Only one

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week into the season, who is better equipped to stay up out of

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Huddersfield and Newcastle? About going off last week, maybe

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Huddersfield. Touching on your point, they are one of the youngest

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sides in the Premier League, which comes with younger players having no

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fear, the expectation is off. They won last week, this is a game that

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everyone is talking about, Huddersfield are expected to beat

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Newcastle and expectation means that things change, as a play your

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mindset changes, we are expected to win, you look at it differently. It

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will be interesting to see how it pans out.

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You can't use the same argument with Newcastle, you can't really say to

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Newcastle enjoy it, because a lot of people do expect Newcastle to be

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here. Have a natural expectation, a big club, everybody knows what it is

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like in the north-east, they are so passionate about their football. If

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they get a that today it will be a horrific start. That expectation has

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been, in a way, by what has happened in the summer, the dynamic between

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Benitez, Ashley and the board, almost dampened. The supporters are

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looking at it and thinking because Benitez has been perceived not to

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have the backing that he expected in the transfer market, they are not

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expected to pull up any serious trees. No, but they are less likely

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to view, and I'm constantly trying not to patronise anybody in this

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conversation, but less likely to view a trip to the Emirates or

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Anfield is a day out. Yes. In terms of the players and the fans? I guess

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so, I don't know. I think they will enjoy those days, they have been

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away from it for a season. I don't entirely buy into that, I genuinely

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think their expectations are not great. That is because of what has

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happened. Because of the discontent, the seeming discontent, behind the

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scenes in terms of the manager 's. I don't understand why Mike Ashley has

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explained, sitting in front of TV cameras, why he is not spending the

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money, Rafa Benitez has come out. For a team which is just been

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promoted, it is a strange thing to do. You would want to keep the

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momentum in the camp, picking up from last season, their success, why

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is start the season negatively? The stories were coming out as long ago

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as full six weeks in the newspapers saying Benitez is not quite on the

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brink but seriously considering the future if he does not get the

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backing. They were not a magic to out of thin air, those stories hard

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grounds, said that ball rolling. Rafter is quite happy for it to be

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out there for everyone to perceive, certainly the Newcastle fans, that

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he is not getting the backing he thinks he was promised. Not that he

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deserves, that he thinks he was promised by Mike Ashley. Mike Ashley

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says I do not have the money of Man City, Chelsea or whatever. Neil

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Ashton has written in the sum that they are considering bringing Andy

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Carroll back. Would you? If he is fit he will get you goals, that is

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what Newcastle need. They are renowned for having the number nine

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striker that will get you goals. Personally, I don't see it

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happening. I think West Ham will do all they can to keep hold of him, I

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am not sure whether Keynes Fish where that came from. No, another

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player says that with him being linked Newcastle are now linked to

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900 players. One person says I would take a back any day, and experience,

:24:29.:24:34.

proven goal-scorer. Can they afford him? Probably. Wages as well? They

:24:35.:24:40.

can afford him. They need to bring him back to full fitness first. That

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would be the gamble. It is getting these things done. One of Rafa's

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biggest frustrations is the amount of deals that may be have been in

:24:51.:24:53.

the pipeline and they have not got over the finishing line is, they

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have not got them sealed. Abraham goes to Swansea, they are waiting to

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take Kennedy on loan from Chelsea. These things are not getting done,

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that is part of his frustration. Moving on to West Ham, Robbie says

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after a night to think about yesterday that my grade is always

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good to take your time before texting... If we had 11 men on the

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pitch we would have done better. We says we can challenge for top eight,

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no excuses, get up and running as soon as possible. Alex, you watch

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this on Final Score yesterday. Did you see a site that could challenge

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for the top eight? Not yesterday, and not last week against Man Utd. I

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watched it with Trevor Sinclair and when they went down to ten players

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we were both screaming. Something needs to change. They got a goal

:25:45.:25:49.

against the run of play. Southampton had endless opportunities to put the

:25:50.:25:52.

game to bed earlier. We saw great character for them to get back in

:25:53.:25:57.

the game, Hernandez played a huge part. But I don't see them

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challenging. I think there are worrying signs defensively and

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tactically, but there are worrying signs. Fonte looks like he is

:26:08.:26:14.

running through treacle, no place at all. Alex Bruce says that the

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performance reiterates that Bilic is tactically clueless, nice guy but

:26:19.:26:22.

not the right man to lead us forward. I am not sure he is

:26:23.:26:26.

tactically clueless. They have had a difficult start and brought in a lot

:26:27.:26:32.

of players. Joe Hart, Zabaleta, Hernandez, Fonte, they have bags of

:26:33.:26:37.

experience and once they gel and they know what the Premier League is

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all about, it is a question... Top eight? Not for me. They looked slow

:26:44.:26:48.

against Manchester United, quite laboured. The centre midfielder

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brings an incredible tenacity but he looked a little bit off the pace

:26:57.:27:01.

yesterday. The signings, at the time... You disagree on Joe Hart?

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Yes. The signings were lauded as great signings. Zabaleta is clearly

:27:08.:27:14.

in the final stretch of his career. He has had a great career, he is in

:27:15.:27:18.

the final stretch. He was exposed last week by Rashford in particular

:27:19.:27:24.

against United. Joe Hart, Adrian was a very popular keeper at West Ham, a

:27:25.:27:29.

very popular guy and a good keeper. You bring in Joe Hart, a big-name

:27:30.:27:34.

signing, he has been through a situation over the last year where

:27:35.:27:36.

unfortunately for a goalkeeper he has been through a situation over

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the last year where unfortunately for a goalkeeper here's conceding a

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lot, that simple. The idea that Guardiola deemed him surplus to

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requirements because he was not great with the ball at his feet, I

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think, was only a fraction of the issue. I think Guardiola does not

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think he is a good enough goalkeeper and I think he is going through a

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spell, you look at the seven goals West Ham have conceded, you cannot

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say it is a mistake by Joe Hart. Some goals are going in easy. Over

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the last 28 shots on target he has faced, I think 17 or 18 have become

:28:08.:28:14.

goals. They may not be his fault, they might have been great shots,

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but when you get into that groove, to a certain extent, I am not sure

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it inspires confidence in defence. I think Joe has a lot of work to do to

:28:26.:28:30.

keep his England place. He has, but you can't get away from the fact

:28:31.:28:34.

that he has been a top goalkeeper, there have been plans where he has

:28:35.:28:37.

put in performances for Man City when you think he is a top keeper.

:28:38.:28:42.

He has been in Italy, in the different league, a totally

:28:43.:28:49.

different ball game. Replacing a popular goalkeeper is an interesting

:28:50.:28:51.

theory, it changes the dynamic amongst the back four. Yes, and they

:28:52.:28:54.

have brought in different bodies, they had the injury to Winston Reid.

:28:55.:28:59.

If they shape and work on that all week and your defender is stretched

:29:00.:29:04.

off in warm up, that can throw you. They need to find the right blend of

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youth and experience, I am sure they will be OK. They will be newsworthy.

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It must be tough, Bilic, I think the owners have done a very good job at

:29:17.:29:20.

West Ham and I like the way they run football clubs, but when you are out

:29:21.:29:24.

there as well, they are not afraid to speak and say they want to sign

:29:25.:29:28.

this player or that a performance was not good enough, it must be a

:29:29.:29:34.

difficult environment for Bilic. Moving on to Liverpool against

:29:35.:29:38.

Crystal Palace, one of the performers who got a lot of

:29:39.:29:42.

attention yesterday is Andy Robinson, a former team-mate of Alex

:29:43.:29:48.

Bruce. As a fellow full-back, Alex Scott, what difference will he make

:29:49.:29:52.

to that back four? And you only have one game to go on at the moment. I

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think he made the Liverpool backline looked balance yesterday, I was

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impressed with his performance, especially going forward. Putting

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crosses into the right areas, his end product. He has not been tested

:30:07.:30:11.

defensively. The modern day full-back, we like it when they

:30:12.:30:14.

bombed forward and get on the scoresheet but your job is to

:30:15.:30:18.

defend. We did not see that yesterday that he had a solid start

:30:19.:30:22.

and I think it is promising going forward. He is a natural modern day

:30:23.:30:28.

left-back in terms of ability to run forwards all game, 90 minutes, his

:30:29.:30:33.

energy levels are fantastic, he has blistering pace, he will give them

:30:34.:30:37.

an added dimension of the going forward and his final delivery, when

:30:38.:30:49.

he first came to Liverpool, his final third delivery is improving

:30:50.:30:53.

all the time. It'll be interesting to see him when he is stretched

:30:54.:30:54.

defensively but he huge potential. When we look at him from a defensive

:30:55.:31:07.

point of view, as a centre-half, what are you looking for your

:31:08.:31:10.

fallback to do to perform at the top defensively? You need a full-back

:31:11.:31:19.

you can rely on. You don't want your fallback in an attacking sense. It's

:31:20.:31:26.

a positional sense. So if the ball goes over your head, he's there to

:31:27.:31:32.

knock out with his head or clear the ball. If you could label anything

:31:33.:31:41.

that was a bit suspect in the last season, that would be it, but he has

:31:42.:31:47.

improved massively. Another player from your Hull days, Harry Maguire,

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was excellent for Leicester yesterday. I think Harry could be

:31:55.:31:58.

the signing of the summer. In terms of players I have played with and

:31:59.:32:01.

what you want from it one half, he has a bit of everything. His

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position has improved. He is immaculate taking the ball and

:32:08.:32:10.

running into midfield. He is a threat from set pieces. He's a

:32:11.:32:15.

physical presence. He has all the makings of a top centre-half, and he

:32:16.:32:20.

is getting better. They pointed out on match of the daily might that he

:32:21.:32:26.

was feasible in a two for Leicester won a lot of the time last season,

:32:27.:32:32.

he played in three. Well, when you are in three, you can come out the

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ball. With Harry, whether he plays in a three or his two, he has his

:32:38.:32:42.

way of wanting to play. And Shakespeare hasn't said to him to

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concentrate on defending. He wants him to express himself and join in.

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When he has get the momentum, he take some stopping. What I was

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impressed with is that in the modern day, you want your defenders to be

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front foot defenders full stops so get in there, intercept and create a

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tax. That was what he did yesterday. The intercept is interesting. One we

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talk about defending not being as good and as soon as you go to ground

:33:11.:33:15.

or fly into a tackle, the whistle is going to go, actually, how you

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intercept becomes even more crucial. Yeah, because you need to read the

:33:21.:33:27.

game. The next step is to set up a counterattack. I am sure there will

:33:28.:33:37.

be contrasts between someone like Maguire and Don stones. For stones,

:33:38.:33:42.

that was always his strength. But when it goes wrong, last year with

:33:43.:33:51.

City versus Everton, he has gone in for the intercept and timed it

:33:52.:33:57.

wrong. And Lukaku scored the equaliser for Everton. But I like a

:33:58.:34:01.

centre-half to do that. They seem more reluctant nowadays. The one

:34:02.:34:05.

thing that is different between John Stones and Harry is that they are

:34:06.:34:08.

both exceptional on the ball. Harry has the power to push you out of the

:34:09.:34:13.

way. He's such a physical presence. You don't realise how big a man he

:34:14.:34:17.

is until you stand next to him. It would take a hell of a powerful man

:34:18.:34:24.

to shift him. Is it also fair to say that if Harry Maguire had made the

:34:25.:34:28.

mistake that John Stones had made last season, there might have been

:34:29.:34:30.

less attention on it at that stage of his career? Of course. John was

:34:31.:34:37.

thrown in at the deep end with Man City. When you play for Hull, you

:34:38.:34:43.

are not scrutinised as you are for Manchester City. And it gives you a

:34:44.:34:47.

bit of leeway to make a mistake. To try things. And Harry has been able

:34:48.:34:53.

to do that and he is seeing the rewards now. Just one mention of

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Coutinho. The Express have upped it to 130 million as what Barca might

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go up to. Does it make a difference? I don't think it does. I am not sure

:35:12.:35:24.

the Klopp would want to keep a player who doesn't want to be there.

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But fair play, they are not going to be bullied by Barcelona. They are

:35:32.:35:35.

taking a stance. Now we are going to go to Wembley and talk to Steve

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Wilson, who is commentating on Spurs against Chelsea for Match Of The Day

:35:41.:35:46.

2 later this afternoon, sitting in the dugout in the sunshine at

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Wembley. If you're listening to us on the radio, there are also the

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Spurs covers all over the dugout. Does it feel like a Spurs home game

:35:56.:36:02.

yet, Steve? Not really. It certainly looks Spurs, with the seat covers.

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They have the motto inside the tunnel, to dairies to do that right

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to bear is to do. But it doesn't really feel like Spurs. White Hart

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Lane was so much smaller. Wembley is huge. Not as huge as it will be for

:36:25.:36:28.

some games they play here this season, because we are not up to the

:36:29.:36:32.

full 90,000 capacity. There are some seats covered by black tarpaulin

:36:33.:36:36.

because Brent Council have limited the number of tickets Spurs could

:36:37.:36:41.

sell today because it's a category A high-risk game. Yet we might beat

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the Premier League record. If we don't beat it, we will be close to

:36:47.:36:52.

it. That stands at 76,019 98, when Manchester United played Blackburn

:36:53.:36:56.

ten years ago. We will be close to it. Spurs will certainly set a new

:36:57.:37:01.

record here at Wembley not just for Premier League football, but for any

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regular season domestic game played in England ever. Spurs will beat

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that record this season at some point, possibly when they play

:37:09.:37:11.

Burnley here in their next home game. So great excitement. It

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promises to be a wonderful occasion, but it doesn't feel like White Hart

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Lane. We were having a discussion fair. -- fair. This is a good

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opening game for Wembley in that surely Chelsea at home, they ought

:37:31.:37:34.

to be able to recreate the Passion of White Hart Lane rather than it

:37:35.:37:38.

being a sterile occasion? Well, I have just been speaking to our

:37:39.:37:44.

football correspondent about that point. I said if Mauricio Pochettino

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could pick a game and an opponent of their first game at Wembley, it

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would be Chelsea now, firstly because Chelsea are weaker than they

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will be in a few weeks' time, and secondly because if they beat

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Chelsea here, and they have every chance of doing so, it completely

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kicks the whole Wembley hoodoo into touch. Everyone is banging on about

:38:06.:38:09.

one defeat in nine in their last nine matches here under the arch,

:38:10.:38:13.

and that is true and three of those defeats came against Chelsea on the

:38:14.:38:17.

ground. But if they beat the champions here today in the Wembley

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sunshine mother who do is gone and no one will talk about it any more

:38:22.:38:26.

and we can all lay that to rest. And funnily enough, people say Spurs

:38:27.:38:29.

haven't signed anyone, and that is true. They have their first signing

:38:30.:38:34.

yesterday from Ajax. But picking the same 11 at the beginning of the

:38:35.:38:37.

season might give you an edge for a week or two. No one is getting used

:38:38.:38:42.

to the country. Everybody knows what they are doing. If I had to get off

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the fence, I would say Spurs will win today. Steve Wilson, thank you.

:38:48.:38:56.

You can hear the game on 5 Live from four o'clock. Alex Scott, would you

:38:57.:39:01.

go along with that, the perfect opening game for Spurs? It is, it's

:39:02.:39:07.

an exciting game. It's interesting, because they did make White Hart

:39:08.:39:11.

Lane last year a fortress. They went unbeaten at home all season. So it

:39:12.:39:17.

is a massive talking point. I remember going back some years now

:39:18.:39:20.

with Arsenal, the Champions League final for us, the ladies, we chose

:39:21.:39:25.

our home ground of Borehamwood instead of playing at the Emirates,

:39:26.:39:28.

because we knew we could pack it out, and the atmosphere does help

:39:29.:39:32.

you as a player. The crowd helped us get across the line. It is not the

:39:33.:39:40.

pitch size. Alex is right. It's the intensity you feed from the crowd.

:39:41.:39:45.

When you play at White Hart Lane, it's like one of the old-fashioned

:39:46.:39:50.

football grounds. The supporters are on top of you. Tottenham did make it

:39:51.:39:56.

like a fortress. However, I fully agree that you couldn't wish for a

:39:57.:40:01.

better game to beat Chelsea to wipe the hoodoo straightaway. Personally,

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I believe Tottenham are such a good team that no matter what stadium

:40:07.:40:09.

they play in, they can deal with what is thrown at them. Could you

:40:10.:40:22.

build this also as a club moving against a club that appears to be

:40:23.:40:28.

slightly chaotic at the moment? You could, but against that argument,

:40:29.:40:32.

Chelsea are champions and have been champions five times in the last 13

:40:33.:40:37.

seasons. They have won the Champions League. They have won the FA Cup

:40:38.:40:42.

four times. So when Antonio Conte turned around on Friday to say, this

:40:43.:40:46.

is the club that we should be looking to emulate, Spurs,

:40:47.:40:50.

Abramovich must be sat there thinking, what is he talking about?

:40:51.:40:55.

That is not how Chelsea operate. You have to accept that. But in terms of

:40:56.:41:04.

whether there is any acrimony in the camp, there is probably not in

:41:05.:41:08.

Spurs. Even so, the stuff about wages that Danny Rose brought up

:41:09.:41:14.

might bring discord at some stage. And Spurs, in terms of 18, -- in

:41:15.:41:21.

terms of a team, they lost walker, but they knew that was going to

:41:22.:41:25.

happen. So as a team, they seem to be going in the right direction.

:41:26.:41:29.

That is why I think the Wembley situation will be an issue, but at

:41:30.:41:33.

the moment, they are the form team of 2017 in the Premier League. And

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Chelsea will be unsettled on the pitch as well. There is no Cahill,

:41:37.:41:44.

no Fabregas. You can't predict this Chelsea line-up, and that is a

:41:45.:41:48.

positive for Spurs. They have that consistency. They know their jobs.

:41:49.:41:54.

So that is at four o'clock. You can listen to it on 5 Live and watch it

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on Match Of The Day 2 later. I realise Watford fans are probably

:41:59.:42:03.

screaming at the TV or radio. They got four points from their opening

:42:04.:42:06.

six games under Marco Silva. This programme worked out perfectly for

:42:07.:42:12.

you, because you have worked under Marco Silva as well. What will he

:42:13.:42:16.

have brought to Watford? He is immaculate in his preparation. He

:42:17.:42:22.

works every day with the players. He goes through everything. And you can

:42:23.:42:30.

see in the way they have started the season, they are organised. I would

:42:31.:42:34.

not expect anything less from Marco Silva. He had a great start at Hull,

:42:35.:42:39.

and you fell away towards the end. Did he work you too hard? Maybe. It

:42:40.:42:45.

was definitely different to the regime we had before. There were no

:42:46.:42:49.

days off. He had you out in the afternoons. A very foreign coachman

:42:50.:42:58.

Tansey in terms of, -- a very foreign coach mentality in terms of

:42:59.:43:01.

there being no time away from the training ground. It will be

:43:02.:43:06.

interesting to see how they do. But you sense that might be stability

:43:07.:43:11.

now at Watford. You are laughing, but Marco Silva hasn't gone to

:43:12.:43:19.

Watford for one season, surely? No. In his last two games, he has made

:43:20.:43:23.

this Watford side look very organised and hard to break down, so

:43:24.:43:27.

I do see it as a long term project at Watford, which is a change.

:43:28.:43:33.

Watford had a drink 's reception at the start of the season for the

:43:34.:43:36.

press. It is a different manager at the start of every season. We have

:43:37.:43:40.

all gone away thinking, this one could be the guy. I hope he is.

:43:41.:43:46.

Thank you to Alex and Alex and Andy. Thank you for your texts and tweets

:43:47.:43:48.

this afternoon. Don't forget, you can

:43:49.:43:49.

hear both of today's Huddersfield against Newcastle,

:43:50.:43:51.

followed by Spurs against Chelsea. I'll be back tonight for MOTD2,

:43:52.:43:56.

alongside Ruud Gullit

:43:57.:44:00.

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