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didn't do very well at all, but having said that, we didn't attack

well, we had a lot of the ball in the first half, we didn't do enough

with it. In 1978, West Brom won here, and they haven't won here in

the league until today, great view. Fantastic, fantastic that the

players. My one wish at the end of the game is that the players get all

of the credit. People are talking about how West Bromwich Albion are

good and Manchester United poor. We deserve a lot of credit. The

pressure comes with the territory of the Manchester United job, do you

have the resolve now to go on? You are always going to get bad results

have the resolve now to go on? You in football, it is part of the job

and it is how you deal with them and we will move on and look forward to

the next game. There are lots of games, you get ready for the next

one. We came here not just to sit in and defend, we attacked when we

could. We have some good players in the team, we made additions late in

the transfer window and hopefully the supporters and everybody else

starting to see we can have another good season. There is a lot to

discuss, let's start, Neil, by giving credit to West Brom.

Steve Clarke said last night that he had spent four days talking to the

players about the importance of had spent four days talking to the

going for it at Old Trafford, not just seeing what happened. In the

press conference after the game, he made that point, but in the past, a

West Brom team might come to Old Trafford, try and defend and nick

something at the end, or get a point, and he is trying to change

the whole mindset of the club, that they can go to places like this and

try and take the game to the opposition and dominate and look

like they want to win it from the outset, and they did. The most

startling for me, from West Brom point of view, how pleased he must

have been, is when rain really got the equaliser. In the past,

have been, is when rain really got would expect Manchester United to go

for the next goal, get a second or third, and the opposition's heads to

go down, but it was the opposite. It was West Brom who went up a level.

Their passing was better, they were more incisive, their finishing,

everything. This wasn't a smash and grab. This was deserved. A deserved

victory. Is that a normal set of occurrences, for a Manchester United

side, to be at home to what you would call a lesser side, and the

team that is the lesser side go for it. Did it happen in your time? I

think in my time and all the way up to this summer, I think we were in a

different place. I think everyone will have... Like Steve Clarke said,

we are going to Old Trafford to go for it. I think everyone will be

looking at it this year that this is an opportunity to go to Old Trafford

and get something out of a game, whereas when Sir Alex was manager,

the teams that he put out, the way that he was getting everything out

of his players, you knew every single player in the squad inside

out, I think we are going to see that quite a lot, seeing Manchester

United having a tough time at Old Trafford because all of the teams

will do what West prompted yesterday. That is something that

Manchester United had to deal with -- that West Brom did. I think it is

only natural. Maybe not expected, but it is not something that really

surprises me, because we have seen how the main competitors have been

dealing in the transfer windows, bringing in players, because this is

the opportunity to have a go, in the space where even everyone at

Manchester United are uncertain about what will happen this season.

You mention psychology, the whole psychology of a visiting team has

changed. David Moyes has mentioned the word transition. There has never

been a club with that big a the word transition. There has never

transition at a club. It is not just a manager leaving after 27 years,

there is a new chief executive, which had a knock-on effect in the

transfer window. So I think these which had a knock-on effect in the

problems are kind of inevitable. They were going to happen and it is

how David Moyes deals with them. He will have the backing of everybody.

Sir Alex Ferguson is still at the club, don't forget. When you look

back to last season, a 13 point gap was a massive gap and you don't

understand how that happened. It was a good team, very experienced team,

the experience came from the year prior to that, losing it by one goal

in the very last second of the season, it gives you something is a

Manchester United player to build on. But 13 points is a massive gap.

When I look at the squad, I see a fantastic squad of players but I

don't see a big leader in midfield, for instance. I don't see someone

who changes the game in the middle of the game. This is what David

Moyes has been saying. If you look at the back page of the Mail, short

of classes what they are going with, a quote from David Moyes. He has

actually been very open and honest about what he has inherited. Sir

Alex said everything was set up the new man but I'm not sure it was. It

was an ordinary Manchester United team with an extraordinary manager.

They needed four or five new players in, who did not know what it was

like before, didn't know what it was like under Sir Alex, this was going

to be new to them and they would stamp their mark on Manchester

United. That is why this transfer window was so important for them.

They have had the worst start as champions since Blackburn in 1995,

who did not add to their title winning team. David Moyes has picked

up a squad that isn't as good as last season's results show. What was

more worrying from a United perspective yesterday is they could

lose the Manchester City, they have done that in the past, they have

lost to Liverpool, but they don't lose at home to West from.

Manchester United have won titles on the back of winning their games that

they are supposed to win. But Fergie factor has gone and the fear factor

has gone. It is only six games, I factor has gone and the fear factor

still think David Moyes is the right man for the job, but people need to

realise that this is a slightly bigger job that he has got on his

hands than we may have first thought. All of the changes at the

club now, not to put any blame, but it is only natural that you have so

many changes. Normally you would have Sir Alex Ferguson and David

Gill dictating what would happen. Sir Alex would know exactly what

they were going to do in the transfer window by March. He would

be sure and he probably would have put everything into place. So he

would not spend the summer panicking about bringing players in. David

Moyes, he was employed very late on, he didn't have that opportunity. And

they still had time, though. But you have to identify the players you

want to bring in. After identifying those players, surely, even if you

don't officially start... When you think that David Moyes was

approached to be offered the job, that would have been two or three

games before the end of the season. He had to look at that squad, which

his winning the championship by 13 points, he had to look at that squad

and identify, who can use from my team, and who is not good enough to

be there for what I want to do? And who can I bring in to make the squad

win the championship by 13 points even better question mark you have

to make the squad stronger. I don't think he had time for that. They

went through enough players, they just didn't get them. Something went

wrong. I think they were being asked for too much money, but Manchester

United and Manchester City will always be asked for extra money

because of the size of the club and the money they have and you just

have to pay. I think he had time from the moment he took over to get

the players he wanted. There seemed to be a fascination with Leighton

Baines and Fellaini. Fellaini has come in, whether he is the right

player to improve them remains to be seen. What we have done is exactly

what Steve Clarke didn't want us to do, the talking point is Manchester

United struggling, but West Bromwich Albion deserve all the credit in the

world. No doubt about it, they played really well, at times playing

United of the pitch and creating the better chances, which is unusual for

any team going to Old Trafford. But at the end of the day, Manchester

United have played six games, lost three, one draw and two wins, it is

not happened before. Steve Clarke can talk as much as you like about

how well they did, no one will can talk as much as you like about

really talk about that today. You have a vested interest! You are not

wearing today. Peter Schmeichal, Guy Mowbray and Neil Custis proving it

difficult for me to keep on track. We had a text message, will the

match of the match but the Day We had a text message, will the

pundits please stop defending David Moyes --match of the day. He knew

what the name grid job was in the squad, and the job isn't good

enough. And an anonymous one, I can't believe that Nani gets in the

United team. He has done nothing in the time since Ronaldo left. Why

spend the money on Wilfried Zaha? And this one, what do Manchester

United need to do to get back to their fluid best? Should boys play

Kagawa in a central position -- should David Moyes play Kagawa in a

central position alongside Rooney and van Persie ahead of them in a

Christmas tree formation. It does seem to be a problem for both

Ferguson and now David Moyes in integrating Krakouer into this

United team. He plays in that slightly wider role for Japan and it

is not that big a difference. If you are good enough, you can adapt to

going from straight behind van Persie to slightly out left. The

role behind van Persie is made for Wayne Rooney and has the start that

as much as possible, so Kagawa has to fit in around that. If he is

likely that, fine. I thought he had a decent first half and I couldn't

understand him being brought off at half-time. The other one couldn't

understand what starting with Anderson. He looks like the bloke

who has won the raffle to play for Man United for the day. I think that

Anderson, if he could stay fit Man United for the day. I think that

enough and play more than 80 minutes, and if he could stay...

More than eight! I think he could be a solution. I am not sure he has the

man talent he, he has not really ever had the chance. The final word

on West Bromwich, to end this. Do not cite. Steve Clark mentioned

there transfer activity -- Steve Clarke. I know it is very early on,

but maybe it is starting to work out for them. Stephan says in Jans was

very good for them. Stephan says in Jans was very good then, Victor

Anichebe and they have Berahino, who is scoring goals for the England

under 21s. They brought in Victor Anichebe. Did they need him? Give

Berahino some starts, he will get you goals and develop. It will be

Berahino some starts, he will get good for the England national team,

not that that is necessary Steve Clarke's main motivation. Another

message, is Rio Ferdinand above criticism? He is looking like the

weak link and over the hill. Tom Walker is in Liverpool, on the

so-called crisis at Old Trafford, Fergie got an extra 15% out of

players, turning average footballers into good players. The trick for

David Moyes is to tap into that formula. Tom who takes did that is

in Liverpool, let's talk about Liverpool. They go to Sunderland

today, we have time later on to delve into the managerial crisis at

Sunderland. Shall we have a quick chat about Liverpool, who had the

defeat against Southampton? They drew against Swansea. It is an

important afternoon. It is, it has taken the gloss of what was a

brilliant start to the season. I was at both games on the common

denominator is that Steven Gerrard was not on top form. They still need

him to be firing every single week. Luis Suarez did well, actually, and

I would expect him to be a pivotal part of the game today. I think all

is well in the world at Liverpool. They need soirees, Alex Hutton has

treated us to say, how big a mess is Puccini O? Maybe that's where the

problems started -- Coutinho.. Well, they have performed well without

Luis Suarez but the fact that they have performed so well without him

and the way he played on Wednesday was good Liverpool, because he

looked at it straightaway. He offers a different dynamic, he gets out the

back four, he creates space for others, I think Daniel Sturridge

will get even more now, because Luis Suarez is there as well and they

could form a great partnership. It shows you that we shouldn't get

bogged down in statistics, because that statistic about Luis Suarez,

clearly Liverpool are better with him in the team, no matter what the

numbers say. David Moyes said on Wednesday night that it was the best

start judged against Matt Busby. That was ridiculous. Not as

ridiculous as Peter Schmeichal arriving here today and say 90% of

people who treated him after his last appearance on the show like the

shirt. If ever there is proof we don't buy into statistics . How do

you see Liverpool this season? I think Coutinho will be a problem for

them. He is the one player you look at and think, yes, why did we not

look at him? That is a great signing, and playing behind storage

on top form, that could be danger for everybody else. My worry for

Liverpool, is the squad they have deep enough? Will they perform as

they have done so, so far, in deep enough? Will they perform as

March? Face facts, you don't win the Premier league this time of year,

not even before Christmas. It is what you do when you are mentally,

physically tired, you have injuries, the pitch is not as good,

the weather is cold. How deep can you dig? That is the four o'clock

game, you can listen to that on five live from four o'clock. As far as

the 1:30pm game is concerned, Stoke against Norwich from you get the

sense from some Norwich fans they are disgruntled about how the season

has begun and maybe not that impressed with some of the

substitutions being made. That accusation has been levelled at a

few managers and David Moyes is one of them. It is early days for every

team. Early-season excitement has led to an overreaction about

everything. Norwich city have signed, particularly up front, some

talented players. They have Gary Hooper who has only just come back

to fitness, he will score goals. Give it time. I wouldn't be

surprised if they got the result this afternoon at Stoke. Stoke are

four teams going into this game but some of their performances have been

impressive. It is not just about changing the style of play, also

their workrate has been phenomenal which is a handover from the Tony

Pulis era. Yes, I think that style of football had run its course. Mark

Hughes had a very unfortunate time at QPR, tried to change too much,

too quickly but he and his assistant manager are still very capable. You

can sense they are starting to get something going again and it reminds

me of his time at Blackburn, that he can grow something, he can make them

strong again at home as Tony Pulis have done. It was very unfortunate

after a long run of drawers. That is management, your job is not to

change everything at once because that will not happen. You cannot

bring 20 players in and it works because you are dealing with people.

You have got to look at what you have and make that work. Not to go

back to David Moyes, but that is his biggest challenge, is to look at his

squad and look at how do I get as much out of these players as Sir

Alex used to do? At Stoke he has seen something that works but he has

also identified that these guys can play football so if I am going to

add a little bit to this now, I will add a bit of playing because that

will throw the other teams off somewhat. They will expect Stoke to

be physical. We will give you team news as soon as we get it. You can

watch on BBC One, we are on the sport website, and on radio five

live as well so you can stay in touch. Let's go back to some of

Saturday's games now, starting with touch. Let's go back to some of

Spurs against Chelsea and we will begin by hearing from both managers.

I think the key moments of the game was hitting the post before

half-time. We could have forced Chelsea into making some changes for

the second half. They always looked a threat on the counter and through

set plays. A pity the second half wasn't as good as the first. I think

Chelsea were strong in the second wasn't as good as the first. I think

half and in the end it is a fair result. I was feeling the game was

completely in our side, which played very well in the first half. I felt

the game was going to be blue, but a bad decision from the referee

changed the last few minutes of the game. What do you make of the

sending off? Difficult for the game. What do you make of the

referee to George. I don't think Fernando was nasty enough to deserve

the sending off. I think both players went for the ball in an

aggressive way. It was probably a fair sending off. I keep thinking

that you need to support the referees during the match, not to

make their life difficult. When nobody hurts you and you pretend the

opponent had a contact and hurts you, you are putting the referee in

a very difficult situation. The referee trusts the player, and gives

a bad decision so I am very sad about that. Those post-match

interviews were used to get the messages they wanted to get across

interviews were used to get the from both managers. We will come to

the Torres incident shortly. Let's talk about how Juan Mata changed the

game. I was on my way to Swansea... You have mentioned it a few times!

Most people cannot understand it but there seems to be a general thread

among Chelsea fans that Jose Mourinho knows what he is doing and

we will be all right. I just love him post-match. He came back

supposedly a reformed character, no longer the Special One, the happy

one, the reformed one, he has still got it. He certainly has. About Juan

Mata, a producer on the show said if your boss asks you to do something

differently, you do that, you should do what your boss asks you to do so

if the boss is asking Juan Mata to do what your boss asks you to do so

change his style for the greater good of the team, then should he do

that? If he can, it might not be in his tool box what he has been asked

to do. I don't understand the situation because you have one

player who has played virtually every Premier league game for two

years, an unbelievable talent, a player that everyone in the world

would sign in an instant. A player who cannot get into the Spanish

team, which is unbelievable by the way, then Jose Mourinho comes back

and looks at the other small guys up front and thinks they are better

players because they run, they track back. This is what he wants, he

wants every player in his team to TrackBack. That is not his skill,

and we saw that very clearly, demonstrated yesterday. As soon as

he came on the pitch, Chelsea became a much better team and you can argue

that retaining the ball, actually trying to score is the best way of

defence. Barcelona have been practising that the years. That is

the best defensive team I have seen for years, they keep the ball so the

other team cannot score, but Jose Mourinho is going back to what he

did when he first came into the Premier league and it worked back

then, I'm not sure it can work this time around. Post-match, I think he

looks different. I think he is still putting his messages across but he

looks different. I think he is still hasn't got that arrogance and that

sort of presence. I think it is only Chelsea supporters at this moment in

time that thinks everything he is doing at the moment is great. Do you

think he has lost self-confidence? He is a more mature guy now, much

more experienced. He had a good time and tough time at Inter, and again

at Real Madrid similar experiences. He has not come barging in, he did

that when he first arrived and it was great, it was refreshing. I am

so delighted he is back because I still rate him as one of the best

managers and he is so funny as well. One viewer says, fantastic to see

Juan Mata back, and even better to One viewer says, fantastic to see

see him tracking back in the defence to do the same. He goes on to say,

Torres was magnificent. We will go on to talk about that and the red

card. We are now going to be on to talk about that and the red

city versus Norwich game. Stoke are easy because they are on

changed so Kenwyne Jones keeps his place even though no Stoke player

has scored this season. Norwich manager is perhaps unfairly under

the microscope with just the one win and three league goals so far for

his team but what is fair in football these days! He makes three

changes, Bassong is injured, Olsen is in, and also Pilkington gets a

start. Gary Hooper, despite his midweek goals, is still on the

bench. Neal has just made a very midweek goals, is still on the

good point about how everyone in the media put people under the

microscope and then spend a lot of time discussing how it is on fair to

put them under the microscope! Let's put Fernando Torres under the

microscope because he did very well for Chelsea yesterday. He had a very

good 80 minutes before he got his second yellow card. Danny Murphy

thought he was unlucky he hadn't gone earlier. I have never seen

anything quite like it, it was awed and it was a shame because he did

look really at it yesterday. He had power, he had pace, he had

presence, he looked a real threat. The second yellow card is

ridiculous, I don't know what the referee has seen, maybe he became

aware of what happened earlier which he didn't act on. It is a shameful

Fernando Torres because he looks like a player again. What he has

done initially is unforgivable. The referee cannot have seen anything.

He must have kind of guest. Yes, I don't think it was anything, not

even a foul. What I am surprised about this morning is looking at the

newspapers and the scratching incident is not the headline. You

see Luis Suarez, saying, "I will change" . If Luis Suarez had done

that, people would have cried. I don't see any difference in biting

and scratching a player. That strong? You cannot do that, you

cannot raise your hands in modern-day football, you cannot do

anything threatening. Did Suarez take a proper bite great no, he

didn't. Would it have been worse if he had drawn blood? I'm happy for

both of them he didn't do that but Jose Mourinho has worked wonders

with Torres. I cannot remember playing this well since his best

days at Liverpool, but to do that, it is taking so much of his

performance and I don't know why that is not a debate today. I hope

you enjoyed that conversation during your Sunday roast dinner! Let's talk

you enjoyed that conversation during to Mark E Mackay because the Cardiff

manager joins us live to talk about the Cardiff win at Fulham yesterday.

Do you feel you deserve the full three points yesterday? yes, I think

so. We played really well from the first minute, we played really well

from the first minute and created a lot of chances, we were disappointed

to come in level at half-time, a fantastic strike by Ruiz, but we had

dominated. The second half was a lot more even but we pushed for the win,

we put three subs on to get the more even but we pushed for the win,

and we finally did that. It was a great three points. Are you happy

with both sides of your team at the moment? Attacking and defending? We

have done a lot of analysis on Match of the Day this season about how

impressive your team is so far, are you happy with the amount you are

creating? We had four really good chances last week against Spurs, who

are a top team. We have scored against Man City as well, we scored

are a top team. We have scored up at Hull, really good goal, and

yesterday we had over 20 shots at their goal. I think Peter Odom

Winkie helps, he is a really experienced player who knows where

the goal is, so I was delighted to get him in -- Peter Odemwingie. I

wonder if Jordan Mutch has come back down to earth yet, what a goal. And

it was on his back foot, he is a down to earth yet, what a goal. And

fantastic young player and can strike it with either foot, it was a

fantastic young player and can little bit special, and as I said,

Ruiz's goal was very good, and if you get top-quality players a chance

from 25 yards, they will hit the target, put it in the top corner.

Can you give us an inside, you played at Saturday at 3pm, you are

talking to us now, have you actually watched the game back in full

already since yesterday and do you get the players in later for a warm

them, or have they done that? I watched it late last night, and then

this morning, the players came in watched it late last night, and then

for a warm down. The boys who do not play have a 45 minute session, the

ones who did will have a warm down. They will have tomorrow off and then

Tuesday, we will be together and we will debrief, 15 or 20 minutes, show

them the good things and the bad things, then it goes to bed and we

start preparing for Newcastle, which is next week. Thank you for joining

us this Sunday lunchtime, it is appreciated. A pleasure, guys. Malky

Mackay. There are two sides to every story. The Independent on Sunday's

headline is about Jol having his job on the line. He is very much the

next manager under pressure, isn't he? It is interesting, the names

being mentioned to come in. I think one of the candidates is someone

David Moyes should have kept on to help with the transition. I am not

sure what the Fulham fans are really expecting to happen. I think he has

lost five late goals, or something like that. There is a concentration

issue, clearly, at the end, towards the end of matches. Is there an age

issue? Their average age yesterday was 29 years and 201 days. It sends

young Timmy! To me as well. -- it sounds young to me. Last season, it

was over 30. Is there a problem? I don't think there is, you can argue

that the squad is very experienced. We have to look at what kind of

football club for them is. It is not a club you would expect in the top

four, and you wouldn't expect them to be relegated either. It is a

middle of the road Premier League club and they have been doing that

there or thereabouts, consistently, for the past few years. And the way

you stay there is you win some and for the past few years. And the way

lose some and yesterday they lost the game. Early on in the season, it

looks bad, and Martin Jol, he was pictured yesterday on Match of the

Day looking very disgruntled with the whole situation. That doesn't

help. It is just an unfortunate moment. That is the image you take

through to today. He came in with a fantastic reputation. I think he has

done really, really well with Fulham. I think adding to his

coaching staff will help the football club and I think it would

be crazy, just because you are six games in, to sack any kind of

manager. A lot of it comes down to games in, to sack any kind of

the new owner and his mentality. He might see Fulham is a top half team.

You only have to look at the history of new owners coming in and reacting

quickly and before they know it, they have to react again, and then

you are in a spiral but you cannot stop. You just create problem after

problem. What you have is a safe pair of hands. He knows how to

manage, he knows how to coach. I think it is a really good thing to

bring in Rene, because it will change things instantly. They are

talking about him coming in as new manager, not just on the coaching

staff. Macro blue he has already got rid of one MJ, the statue has gone.

He has been itching to say that. Though, it just came to me! He has

his script under the table. We have had this text as well. Half an hour

in, and still no mention of Hull City? Haven't you noticed we are

seventh in the table? I wouldn't have said that if I were you,

because we have Curtis Davies lined up to join us. We are going to talk

about them properly. Good. How is it going? Very good. It has been an

incredibly solid start for you, hasn't it? It has. I think

especially in the games that we should win, or we can win, we have

done Ridgewell in those games. Obviously, we drew one against

Cardiff when we could have won but that's sorted itself out with

getting a good win at Newcastle. The main thing is we have come into this

league and we have managed to put a main thing is we have come into this

stamp then that we are not going to be the whipping boys and go down

without a fight. Do you do that as a group of players? Does your manager

set out the targets, we expect three points from this game or a point

from that game? Or do you just do it subconsciously as a group? I think

it is a more subconscious thing. I don't think the manager wants to put

added pressure on, we need to win that one or this one, sort of thing.

We know in ourselves the type of games we should be going into and

expecting to win or at least take a games we should be going into and

point from, and we saw that going into the Newcastle game. We knew we

could possibly get points up there and to get three was massive for us.

We knew we were coming into two home and to get three was massive for us.

games against West Ham and Aston Villa, and again, they are games

that we think we can take points from. The points tally overall so

far after six games is looking quite good. Curtis, it is Peter

Schmeichel. Obviously, my son was rumoured to come to Hull. What is

the atmosphere like in the dressing room? Is it a case of virtue

the atmosphere like in the dressing believe you have started so well

the atmosphere like in the dressing is it a case of, this is what we

expected? It is really strong. We looked around the changing room and

we knew what we had. Obviously, we haven't got a deep squad, like other

squads, but we know that we have got the potential 16-18 players that can

squads, but we know that we have got come in and play with no pressure.

We know we are good enough, we have made very good signings late on with

Tom and Jake coming in and I think they have really helped us to

basically become a Premier League team as such. We know what we made

up and we are not surprised at how we have done, because we believe we

are a good footballing team and can give anyone game. Can I ask you

about Steve Bruce? He has a great managerial record at various clubs.

What is it that he does for you, gives a club like Hull? I think the

manager goes out to win football matches, and he knows how to

approach different games. Some managers get tied into wanting to

play a certain style, and get carried away with that too much.

Whereas our manager will approach a different game with a certain

mentality and hopefully, that will be the tactics that work on the day.

So I think the manager, he has been be the tactics that work on the day.

around the block, done very well in the Premier League and I think the

group of players that he has got, the ones he puts on us, are able to

deliver. Curtis, we appreciate you talking to us, thank you. Curtis

Davies, the Hull captain. One of the game we will touch on from

Davies, the Hull captain. One of the yesterday, we can't do every game,

because there is too much to cramming, I'm trying to pre-empt the

complaints and the abuse, Manchester City's defeat at Aston Villa. From

what you saw that game, where city slightly unlucky, not taking

anything away from Villa? It was an unbelievable game but it sums the

Premier League up, it is why it is the best in the world. You have a

Manchester City team probably near enough the best that they can put

out, unbelievable on enough the best that they can put

played really well, and they still came away with a 3-2 defeat from a

game they never should have came away with a 3-2 defeat from a

You could argue that they should have scored one or two more, but for

me, that is the Premier League, that is what you get with that league.

You get the best teams in the world, they can lose games and it was kind

of a fluky result in a way, because the goals that Aston Villa scored,

but credit to them and West Brom. This is exactly what Roberto Mancini

went on about last season, it is about mentality and he was comparing

it to Manchester United. Manchester United, up until this season, would

always win the games they were meant to win and he felt his players did

not take as serious a game like yesterday is as they would

Manchester United, as they would Liverpool or Chelsea. He kept going

on and on about the mentality of the players and he tried to drive at

home. That is why he was such a hard task master, he wanted them to make

sure they took everything seriously. We saw results at QPR and

Southampton last season. Do not think they did that last season?

They were unlucky with the goals they conceded. One was offside. It

is unfortunate, but they did it a lot last season. They dominated the

teams and didn't finish them off, whereas in the past, United would

finish them off. They are the best squad in the Premier League,

probably the best team. You look at it and they should win it, but they

won't if they can't finish teams of when they are on top and that is

what went wrong last season. Let's go back to Sunderland against

Liverpool. Paolo to Kenny has dominated the media throughout the

week -- Di Canio. Harry Redknapp has said, how do you try and turn them

into a proper team? His other mistakes were criticising them in

public and training them too hard, how dare he? What you think about

those words? I think there is more to it than that, but most people

agree with the sentiment. They don't mind the criticism and training them

hard but some of the things bordered on lunacy and it couldn't carry on

any longer. Sunderland, from my point of view, it is a club quite

close to my heart, I used a work up there and I think that they should

give Kevin Ball, not necessarily full-time, but do not rush. Gus

Poyet is still the favourite to get the job, but why hasn't he got it

yet? Fan who has text it is anonymously says that Gus Poyet and

Steve McLaren is not the right person, and they should take a

chance on Renault Meulenstein. He is a rookie but he has worked alongside

the best manager in the history of the league. I read a story today

about di Canio swallowing water then spitting it on his own face, he was

clearly a bit unhinged. You can't do this every single week to shift the

attention away from your own this every single week to shift the

failings. He has brought a lot of players in and immediately claimed

one of them wasn't good enough to play for them, so that is his

mistake. I don't know play for them, so that is his

Sunderland were expecting. Very quickly, Peter, who should they

appoint? I agree with Guy, you sit back and you breathe and take your

time and get it right this time. They have Manchester United next, so

they will be all right. They have a very home grid hard home fixture.

Thank you very much. All of today's games are on Match of the Day to

tonight on BBC One and Sunderland against Liverpool, live on five live

from 4pm this afternoon. We will see you next week.